We know the Eagles are going to cut some players this offseason. One of the guys we’re uncertain about is C Jason Kelce. I’ve gone back and forth as to whether I think the team would cut him. Jimmy Bama has a source who indicates the Eagles might let go of Kelce.
The Philadelphia Eagles are considering moving on from starting center Jason Kelce this offseason, whether by trade or outright release, a source told PhillyVoice.
Kelce, who turned 29 in November, was drafted in the sixth round of the 2011 NFL Draft and immediately became the starting center, appearing in 78 regular season games for the Eagles, all of which he started.
Kelce is scheduled to count for $6,200,000 against the salary cap in 2017, $3,800,000 of which the Eagles would save if they traded or released him. Kelce is the tenth-highest paid center in the NFL, according to overthecap.com, and there’s a significant gap in pay between himself and the eleventh-highest-paid center.
Salary is a key factor in this discussion. If Kelce were cheap, the Eagles would almost certainly keep him. He’s not. Kelce will turn 30 next season and that also has to be taken into consideration.
There is another factor – Isaac Seumalo. The Eagles are very high on him. They might want to pair him with Carson Wentz so the team would have a strong C-QB duo to grow together.
Kelce remains an effective starter, and at times he is a very good player. Kelce is probably still the most athletic C in the league. He is durable, starting all 16 games in 3 of his 5 seasons. He is smart and don’t underestimate how important that is in the C position. Making line calls and adjusting for blitzes and stunts is not easy. If a C can’t do this well, all the size, strength and athleticism in the world does him no good.
Kelce has started 78 games. He has played in the West Coast Offense, Chip Kelly’s no-huddle attack and whatever you want to label Doug Pederson’s offense (bit of a Reid-Kelly combo?). You can plug him into just about any offense.
In an ideal world, the Eagles would trade Kelce. That would net them a draft pick in return and would really help with the cap situation. The Eagles wouldn’t get much of a pick due to Kelce’s price and age, but any pick can help as the team tries to bring in young talent.
Seumalo played LG, RG and RT this year, but plenty of people think his future is at C. He is big, smart and athletic. And young and cheap. That’s a terrific combination. The one downside here is that if you move Seumalo to C, you have to figure out LG. Would the Eagles keep Allen Barbre to play that spot? Could they draft someone? Is there a free agent the team might target?
Jason Peters won’t be moving to LG so don’t try planning an OL with him, Lane Johnson and Big V on the field together. We’ll have to wait and see what the team has planned, if they do move on from Kelce. Lots of dominoes to fall in the OL situation.
Speaking of the OL…
Eagles signed G Dallas Thomas to a reserve/futures contract. In related news, Dallas lost their playoff game and their season is over.
The Eagles liked Thomas heading into the 2013 draft. They brought him to Philly for a visit. He played LG and LT in college and the Eagles love versatile OL. I know Chip Kelly was the coach back then, but Howie Roseman was part of the draft process and Jeff Stoutland was the OL coach. They’re still here and might still think Thomas has some potential.
The 27-year-old Thomas was a third-round pick of the Dolphins in 2013 out of Tennessee. He started 26 games in his three-year NFL career, including all 16 contests in 2015 when quarterback Ryan Tannehill threw for a career-best 4,208 yards and running back Lamar Miller tied a career high with eight rushing touchdowns. He was Miami’s starter entering this year’s Training Camp, but lost the job in the preseason to 2016 first-round pick Laremy Tunsil.
Thomas, who is 6-5, 316 pounds, was pressed into action this season after Tunsil suffered an ankle injury. Thomas was released by Miami in October.
A three-year starter at Tennessee, he played in 50 career games, spending time at both left tackle and left guard. He allowed just two sacks in 1,296 pass plays with the Volunteers.
Thomas is the kind of redemption project you want. He has NFL talent and some experience. Things just haven’t worked out so far. He might not ever pan out, but he’s worth bringing in and taking a look at this spring and summer.
If the Eagles aren’t going to win the Super Bowl, I turn my attention to the teams I want to lose in the playoffs. I’m sure most of you are the same way.
On Saturday, we saw the Seahawks go down and that made me happy. The combination of Pete Carroll, those players, those team colors and that stadium has led me to hate that team. I respect the heck out of how good they are, but still hate ’em. It was especially fun to see them lose on a day when they couldn’t stop the other team. Atlanta scored 36 points on that D.
Seattle has been a lucky team in recent years. They stayed very healthy for a few years and that got them to the NFC title game, won them a Super Bowl and almost won them another Super Bowl. Think about the Eagles. In 2001 Troy Vincent got hurt in the playoffs. Correll Buckhalter got hurt in the NFC-CG. In 2002 it was Donovan McNabb getting hurt in the regular season and then looking rusty in the playoffs. Blaine Bishop got hurt in the playoffs. In 2003 Brian Westbrook got hurt in the season finale and missed the postseason. In 2004 Shawn Andrews missed the whole season and then TO got hurt late in the year. The Eagles were never the same after that.
When I say Seattle was lucky, that’s not an insult. They were healthy and took advantage of it. That’s what you’re supposed to do. How often do we see a team play dominant football and then lose early in the playoffs? Seattle played great in the postseason when they had all their weapons.
This year Earl Thomas was missing and DE Michael Bennett was banged up. The pass rush wasn’t consistent and their secondary looked human. Welcome to the world that most teams live in.
I’m glad the Texans lost, simply because that team is so miserable to watch with Brock Osweiler at QB. He is just a mess right now.
Kansas City fell to the Steelers on Sunday night. I wasn’t happy about that. I hate the Steelers and I was really pulling for Andy Reid to make a title run this year. The Chiefs finally seemed to have enough weapons on offense to compensate for Alex Smith not being a dynamic QB. The Steelers shut down Tyreek Hill all game long and kept Travis Kelce quiet for more than half of the game. With those guys limited, Smith needed to play at a high level and that didn’t happen. He was 20-34-172. You can’t throw that many passes for that few yards and win in the postseason.
When Reid first left Philly, I had mixed feelings. He was fired so it wasn’t his choice to leave, but it was still weird to cheer for him with another team. On an intellectual level, I wanted him to succeed. My gut had mixed feelings. Enough time has passed now that I can look at that sexy beast with a world class mustache and just be happy for him. I would love Big Red to win a Super Bowl one of these days.
Sunday did feature the best game (and result) of them all.
Green Bay 34
The Cowboys made an amazing comeback from down 21-3, but let’s remember they did this against a team with a WR playing RB, the star WR out and half the secondary hurt. Aaron Rodgers was masterful. When he is at his best, you are going to have a tough time beating him.
Dallas went 13-3 this year. They have some really talented players, but this never looked like a title team to me. Just too many questions, especially on defense. You can’t hide part of your team in the postseason.
And now for some fun.
The Eagles have more wins in 2017 than the Cowboys do.
Free agency doesn’t start until March, but there are moves to be made now. The Eagles have added a handful of players already.
WR Dom Williams
WR Rasheed Bailey
FB Andrew Bonnet
OL Josh LeRibeus
CB Mitchell White
So that would be nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody and nobody. Right?
Most signings like this do not pan out. If the team is lucky, the player becomes an effective role player. Most don’t make the team. But every now and then you find a hidden gem. Which WR posted the most yards for the Falcons in Saturday’s playoff win over Seattle? That would be Taylor Gabriel (4-71). He tied for the team lead in TD catches this season and has been a great find for the Falcons. And they aren’t even his first team. He wasn’t good enough for…the Browns.
Note on Gabriel: Wasn't even a UDFA for Browns. Was a tryout body at rookie camp, inj'd in drill, begged Ray Farmer to let him stick to TC.
Farmer did keep Gabriel around and he made the team in 2014. Heck, he was productive (36-621-1). Gabriel’s numbers dropped in 2015. With Farmer out as GM and a coaching change, Gabriel was let go. He got a second chance in Atlanta and has become a key part of their offense. You may remember him burning Leodis McKelvin for a 76-yard TD at The Linc a couple of months back. (Here is a good story on Gabriel and his background if you want to know more)
Sometimes guys just slip through the cracks.
Jimmy Smith was cut by Dallas and the Eagles before he went to Jacksonville and had a great career.
Lin Dawson and Johnny Unitas were both cut by the Steelers. They did okay for themselves.
James Harrison was a UDFA signing by the Steelers. He was on and off their practice squad before going to Baltimore for a while. They sent him to NFL Europe. He ended up back with the Steelers and has had a great career since then.
I think we all know Kurt Warner’s crazy story. He was all over the place before finding a home with the Rams. Even then, it took an injury to Trent Green to get Warner on the field.
Derek Wake went from Penn State to playing in the CFL. He changed his name to Cameron Wake and became one heck of a pass rusher. Miami signed him to see if he could play in the NFL. 81.5 sacks and 21 FFs later, I’d say the answer is yes.
NFL rosters are set at 53 players for the regular season, but are up at 90 for most of the offseason. You don’t just know who the 53 best players are. You need to bring in a bunch of players to find the 53 best. Teams have detailed scouting reports on all of these players, but you never know how they will respond to a given situation. Scheme matters. Coaching matters. Teammates matter. Environment matters.
Evan Mathis was in the NFL for 6 seasons before coming to Philly. He played for 3 teams and started 22 games. He showed flashes of talent, but something still wasn’t clicking. That all changed when he got to play for Howard Mudd in Philly. Mudd’s scheme was perfect for him and Mathis became a Pro Bowl player. The talent was always there, but the circumstances hadn’t been right to get him to perform at his best.
Joselio “MmmBop” Hanson was on SF’s practice squad in 2003. He made their roster in 2004. Hanson got cut in 2005 and went to NFL Europe. The Eagles signed him prior to 2006 and he became a key role player for the next 6 seasons.
The Eagles did have luck with one player from the CFL, DE Phillip Hunt. He was a backup pass rusher in 2011 and 2012, totaling 3 sacks.
There is no reason to get excited by the players the Eagles have added, but the beauty of pro football is that you never know when a nobody will become a somebody.
About 7.5 weeks ago, the Eagles were 4-point favorites against the Packers. GB had lost 4 straight. Beat Eagles, haven't lost since.
On the surface, it sounds like the two of them disagree. That’s not really the case at all. Each man has a different perspective, based on his job. The coach has to think of today or this week. He can’t live in the future. Coaches who think too much about the future rarely make it to the future. Personnel executives have a different situation. They built the current roster, but are always looking to the future. What does the upcoming draft look like? Free agency? Should I be negotiating with my current players on extensions?
Both men actually gave the right answer.
The Eagles were close to being a winning team.
Being a winning team isn’t good enough.
The goal is to be a legitimate title contender. That means playing at a high level. The Eagles started to do this in 2001. They broke through in 2002 and played really good football again in 2003 and 2004. Those teams had a franchise QB, strong O-line and an outstanding defense. You can see where the current Eagles are headed in that direction. Whether they can be as good as the 2001-2004 teams is yet to be seen. That all depends on the development of Carson Wentz and whether they can find the right guys to go around him.
#Eagles have interest in interviewing #Rams passing game coordinator/WRs coach Mike Groh for their WRs job opening, sources said.
Groh has worked for the Bears and Rams. Prior to that he was at Alabama and did a great job with some talented college players. He is the son of former NFL and college coach Al Groh. Mike has been around the game of football his whole life.
One interesting angle with Groh is that he coached these players in the past:
Marshall could be cut or might be available in a trade. The other three players are all free agents. Hiring Groh would not be a sign that the Eagles are going to pursue any of those WRs, but it is an interesting connection.
The problem with Groh is that he might want to be a QB coach in the NFL or offensive coordinator at the college level. He played QB in college and was a QBs coach at Virginia and Louisville. He was also an OC for Virginia.
If Groh wants to prove he can really coach, there is no better opportunity than taking the Eagles WR job. Get that group turned around and you would never be doubted again.
Sure enough, Lal is a client there. Is Bob LaMonte, Howie’s agent, pushing Lal on the Eagles? That’s a fair question to ask.
At the same time, it isn’t like Lal is unqualified or anything like that. He has been an assistant in the NFL for 10 seasons. He’s worked for different teams, coaches and GMs. Relationships aside, I would have no problem with the Eagles hiring Lal.
Some have talked about Jags WR coach Jerry Sullivan. He has been a terrific assistant for a long time, but apparently is considering retiring. He will turn 73 this summer.
Williams spent his rookie year on the Chargers’ practice squad after leading the team with 10 catches for 132 yards in the preseason. He signed with San Diego as a rookie free agent following the 2016 NFL Draft. The 6-2, 200-pound Williams was named All-Pac-12 honorable mention after his senior season at Washington State in 2015. He had 75 catches for 1,040 yards and 11 touchdowns in his final year with the Cougars. He finished his Washington State career ranked second all time in school history in receiving yards (2,889), second in touchdown catches (30) and third in receptions (192).
Williams played for Mike Leach at WSU. Over the years, Leach has done a good job of developing WRs with good hands. Williams isn’t dynamic, but he is a hands catcher and can make tough grabs. He has solid size and a year of NFL practice under his belt. Good competition for Training Camp.
Sean McDermott is now the head coach in Buffalo.
McDermott had a great run with the Eagles before being let go after the 2010 season. Andy Reid wanted a change in the defense, but also knew McDermott needed a change of scenery. He didn’t handle the transition from assistant to defensive coordinator well. I’m not talking about X’s and O’s, but rather how he treated people. McDermott tried to assert himself into the new role and rubbed a few people the wrong way. He wasn’t a bad guy. He simply needed a change of scenery.
McDermott did a very good job with the Panthers and now gets a chance to show he is ready to run his own team. He certainly has the knowledge and experience from working under great coaches. It will be interesting to see how his leadership skills have improved and if he learned from the past.
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