Vick is Definitely Done as an Eagle…Maybe

Posted: March 5th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 40 Comments »

If you don’t like one rumor, keep reading a while and you’ll find one to refute the rumor you don’t like.

That’s it. Vick is out.

Wait, what?

Mike Florio also says the Eagles remain open to a return by Vick. Honestly, I don’t know why the Eagles would rule Vick out. If the market doesn’t play out as he’d like it, seems to me that you would be willing to talk to him about returning as a backup. I don’t anticipate Vick coming back. I do think some team will give Vick a chance to be their starter or at least compete for the starting role.

I still want to see Vick go to the Raiders. That has been rumored as a possibility. We’ll see what happens.

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Here’s a Jairus Byrd update.

I think they will have interest. Just not sure how high they’ll bid, if it gets to that point.

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For those wanting some good news on the DeSean Jackson front, you’ll enjoy Jeff McLane’s report.

The Eagles are not actively shopping DeSean Jackson, nor do they have any intention of parting with their Pro Bowl wide receiver this offseason.

Jackson isn’t close to being cut, and even if he was one misstep away from forcing the Eagles to move him, they most certainly wouldn’t release him without getting something in return.

The Eagles, of course, don’t respond to rumors. It wouldn’t be within their best interest to feed a reporter the above information without attribution – e.g. as a “team source” – because refuting speculation would be acknowledging it.

But after talking with almost a dozen sources from around the league, it’s clear the Eagles aren’t interested in dealing the 27-year-old Jackson – not by a long shot.

That is pretty definitive and I hope he’s right, but all I can tell you is…we’ll see. Jeff is a good reporter and works his sources, but you just don’t know if the sources he talked to know what the Eagles are thinking. After all, if they do move DeSean, that’s a move out of left field. It isn’t like this is something that anyone saw coming (as opposed to the cutting of Avant).

For now, DeSean is an Eagle and it sure sounds like those around the league expect him to stay here.

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40 Comments on “Vick is Definitely Done as an Eagle…Maybe”

  1. 1 GermanEagle said at 9:27 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Some OT: did anyone see TO on that huvr board on YouTube as well? I am so glad that TO is the past and won’t hunt us ‘back to the future’.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4vE_vpkr90

  2. 2 anon said at 10:41 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    I would have signed him 4 yrs ago, it’s too bad about his career.

  3. 3 Vick or Nick said at 9:34 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    I really don’t think Vick comes back.

    I think Eagles will sign someone, most likely UDFA QB to compete with Barkley for back up QB, with the intention of Barkley winning the job.

    Also see Chip moving towards keeping 2 QBs on the roster to make extra room for another skill position. Might be beneficial for Eagles based on their pace of play.

    I think the whole trading DeSean thing might be a marketing move. Prb not by the team but either way it helps the team.
    Djax wanted to be paid MORE after last season. With these trade rumors, Djax’s agent is prb less likely to be aggressive about a new deal.

    Maybe DeSean realizes that once he loses his speed, he will not be valuable for the Eagles. So he is trying to cash in on a great year.

    All things are in the Eagles favor. DeSean is already one of the highest paid players on the team. Eagles have Cooper and Maclin back, a draft and FA class full of receivers. This is prb the worst time for DeSean to be asking for more guaranteed money. GTFO.

    Just wear a hoodie with sweatpants like Jason Kelce.

  4. 4 D3Center said at 10:19 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    More guaranteed money doesn’t mean more money though. If DJax wants more guaranteed money then the Eagles could probably restructure his deal to give him more guaranteed but less overall which lowers his cap hit and is a win-win.

  5. 5 iceberg584 said at 1:17 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    I’m not so sure that Chip goes into the season with only Foles and Barkley rosetted at quarterback. I think the successive Vick, Foles injuries certainly taught him a lesson. That crisis nearly very wrecked the whole season.

    I think most here agree that Barkley is better than he showed off the bench last year, but if they only bring in an UDFA to compete with him, I’ll be disappointed. We must keep in mind that in essentially 1.5 seasons, Foles has missed time with a broken hand and a concussion.

  6. 6 Richard O'Connor said at 8:18 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    Last year the Eagles carried 4 QBs, including Kinne on the practice squad. It’s less of a game day roster decision than a week-long one. We know Kelly’s emphasis on practice speed and reps and you need more than two arms to run the practices the way he wants.

  7. 7 Insomniac said at 9:34 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    It really does look like the end of his time here. There’s not a lot of modern Eagles memories that didn’t feature Vick. The MNF game against the Redskins? That was the best butt whooping I’ve seen. Who could ever forget about the Miracle in the New Meadowlands?

    Thanks for the memories Mike. Maybe you and Avant can catch onto the same team. It’d be nice to watch Avant making highlight reel catches from your lasers.

  8. 8 GermanEagle said at 9:39 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    I got a feeling that Vick will end up with the Jets.

  9. 9 Charlie Kelly said at 10:02 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Nah, vick and marty didnt get along that well….

  10. 10 Weapon Y said at 9:55 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Am I the only one who thinks Matt Cassel would be a perfect fit as the number two quarterback here? Probably the best available and we have his old offensive coordinator (Musgrave) on staff.

  11. 11 anon said at 10:39 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Haha considering the way he schooled us last year, yes.

  12. 12 planetx1971 said at 11:04 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    No I’m with ya there. If for no other reason than at this point anyway, I’d feel pretty nervous if Barkley was a “Chinstrap away” if god forbid Foles is nicked up for a couple of games.

  13. 13 Weapon Y said at 12:50 AM on March 7th, 2014:

    I’m just surprised none of the media guys are pushing for Cassel. He, by far, makes the most sense.

  14. 14 planetx1971 said at 7:56 AM on March 7th, 2014:

    I completely agree. I feel like he’s potentially a GREAT veteran # 2. Enough that maybe he would even help keep Foles’ fire burning in that there could be a nice (on paper anyway) competitive atmosphere in training camp that Kelly so covets. Even though we all know Foles would have to literally implode for it to be a true battle. The only thing I can think of for a reason he’s not in discussions is maybe Cassel feels like he should be somewhere he’s got a stronger shot to be a starter maybe??

  15. 15 GermanEagle said at 10:01 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    This list is funny. DRC ranked ahead of Jairus Byrd…

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/05/the-free-agent-hot-100-3/

  16. 16 A_T_G said at 10:14 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Maybe we can add Knowshon. That would give Tommy and Jimmy some fun tweets to discuss.

  17. 17 Insomniac said at 10:43 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    CBs will always be valued more than safeties.

  18. 18 GermanEagle said at 5:28 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    Fair enough… But DRC at no. 11, really?

  19. 19 Insomniac said at 8:57 PM on March 6th, 2014:

    To be fair, I have no clue about the extent of how well DRC played at Denver. Kinda mad that he played better there and went to the Superbowl before we did.

  20. 20 Charlie Kelly said at 10:01 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Desean WILL be the best eagles WR of all time… if you hatin’, you just a fake fan. Period.

  21. 21 suthrneagle said at 10:30 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Don`t know if I would go that far,but this upcoming season he will be a tremendous asset to the team. However, as we`ve seen, he needs others around him, and as pointed out here, Chip`s offense to be more productive. Also, with the benefit of the Eagles health regime, he should be performing at this level for at least three more years…who knows by then he`ll have matured to the point where he`ll bulk up a bit(maclin`s size?) and expand on his contributions to the team.

  22. 22 anon said at 10:38 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Chip said that he was doing more in the weight room under Vicks guidance. Desean won’t put on 20 pounds of muscle his whole game is speed.

  23. 23 suthrneagle said at 7:49 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    As expessed above to CK(here) ,since he will lose a step or two, adding a few pounds, say 10?, should not hurt his playmaking skills,should he have the desire to contribute a little more; blocking,going over the middle, just being more physical.

  24. 24 RIP illa said at 5:44 PM on March 6th, 2014:

    Djax loosing a step or two still makes him faster than 95% of the aware in the league. So he will still have speed to his game. Plus he’s shown to be more than just running go routes. Don’t know what you’re trying to get at. It’s like you’re trying to make him into a Steve Smith type in your hypothetical. 2 completely different body types. DJax will probably never be “Maclin sized” and weigh in at 200 or close to. And he contributes plenty on blocking. He’s not going up against DLs and LBs…doesn’t take too much more than effort to block a CB!

  25. 25 Charlie Kelly said at 10:48 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    matured to the point where helll bulk up? hes not going to gte any bigger. lol.. infact his body is max’ed out.. cant even belive you said that… i want a big WR too but desean being small doesnt mean he isnt one of the best WRs in the game.. put kelvin benjamin(or another big talented WR) on the other side of desean and we will have the best offense of all time.. since desean has been here we have set offensive records after offensive records…

  26. 26 suthrneagle said at 7:36 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    explain maxed out…anyone can put on a few more pounds…matured to the point where he understands that is speed won`t help him succeed as much and that he`ll need to find other ways to earn his millions. You all have said that he`ll lose a step or two,so then how is added weight going to be a negative?

  27. 27 Charlie Kelly said at 10:02 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    i dont want to pay vick any money, his value as a back up will be more money then what Foles will make this season… lol… cant do it.

  28. 28 suthrneagle said at 7:55 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    See now, here I agree 100%

  29. 29 anon said at 10:36 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    I don’t understand the point, from a team perspective, of a one year deal. I’d always at least do a 2 year with no dead / guaranteed the second year. Then at least you have the option to trade or cut. (I completely realize players might not go for it and teams maybe don’t want to trade for a guy with a year left) but it’d be nice if we got something for Vick.

  30. 30 shah8 said at 11:19 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    Vick was going for what Mac is now. Vick lost that gamble. Wonder if Maclin will find *his* little pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

    On the other hand, never really agreed with the restructuring from the team standpoint. Vick’s contract just wasn’t that big of a deal, and the extra years would have made him useful as a trade. On the other hand, perhaps the utility of trading just wasn’t that big, given Vick’s potential market.

  31. 31 McNabbulousness said at 11:08 PM on March 5th, 2014:

    this post gives me a good idea about the market value for vick…maybe

  32. 32 NinjaP said at 2:02 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    I honestly don’t think that speculating the eagles could trade desean even made sense. He is way better than maclin and cooper.

  33. 33 shah8 said at 2:48 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    Apparently Adrian Peterson tweeted that Vick would make the Vikings a playoff team instantly. Whether or not that’s true, looks like at least one team has some people who’d like him on board.

  34. 34 A_T_G said at 6:20 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    No one in their right mind was questioning whether Vick would be welcomed by players. These guys are no more likely to miss a chance to play with their boyhood video game protagonist than I am to turn down an offer of help from Link as I prepare to battle across the medieval countryside in search of triangles.

  35. 35 shah8 said at 12:44 PM on March 6th, 2014:

    Hmmm…

    Players are intensely competitive. They usually want people on their teams that they think can win. “Boyhood hero” is a little silly. Then again, remember that change in expression on Desean Jackson’s face when he was told before the Detroit game ’10 that Vick would be starting? I’ve always thought that DJax little contract burble had a lot to do with what his career would be like having to make Foles look better, instead of Foles making DJax look better. Heck, then it’s obvious why he’d want more guarantees on the value of his current contract.

    Of course, AD also wants Vick because he wants some of that distraction on the DL that gets Vick’s RBs so much yardage. Lastly, the Vikings WR corps has a lot of very fast guys and a capably wily old vet in Jennings. Vick does make a lot of sense in Min. I’ve never thought he’d be interested, because he’d be mindful of how McNabb (and Webb) was treated. Ponder is still on that team.

  36. 36 deg0ey said at 3:34 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jackson traded this time next year, but right now makes no sense. What it boils down to (for me) is that the Eagles don’t have money to pay both Jackson and Maclin; either they let Mac leave next summer or they extend him and trade Jac. Depends which guy they like better I guess.

  37. 37 Michael Riccardi said at 12:00 PM on March 6th, 2014:

    Exactly right. Eagles gave themselves a year to make that decision. You simply can’t move Jax before you extending Maclin, because you need a credible #1 receiver and that’s never going to be Cooper’s role here.

  38. 38 eagleyankfan said at 7:21 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    I’ve never seen so much ink about a report that someone made up … smh. You don’t sign players at a specific position and then try to trade the top wr. Doesn’t make any sense at any level. Hopefully this is the last we’ll hear of the non-sense.

  39. 39 Nick said at 7:49 AM on March 6th, 2014:

    My theory is that Jimmy K got it sort of right with his speculation: Chip Kelly is all about maximizing the talent he has while slowly building the kind of program he wants, and Roseman’s style is to preserve maximum flexibility for the future and to plan for contingencies. So the Eagles have used some of the extra resources they have given Foles’s favorable contract situation to devote to the WR area this year, and they may draft a WR high this year, so that next year they can decide who Kelly and the Eagles will want to keep: D Jax (nearing his 30s), Maclin (has he recovered from his ACL, can he be a #1), Riley Cooper (is he a fluke), and potentially unknown drafted WR.

    If you look at it that way, given the uncertainty presented by Maclin and Cooper and anyone they might draft this year, D Jax seems like a lock for this year, but next year all bets may be off if Maclin or a new WR proves they have the ability to replace him. I agree with McLane that they wouldn’t do it now; it would endanger Kelly’s offense, which needs Jackson’s speed and gamechanging ability — although this could change if someone else shows they have the talent to replace him. Kelly and Roseman can afford the WR resources this year, and they’re not going to trade Jackson just to maximize the value they would get for trading him, if it means hurting the team and unless they know for a fact they can replace his production — which they don’t and can’t know right now.

  40. 40 dislikedisqus said at 9:06 PM on March 6th, 2014:

    He just makes so much sense for the Jets. I think he’s gone by month’s end.