Beckham

Posted: April 3rd, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 146 Comments »

WR Odell Beckham, Jr. could be the Eagles best choice at pick 22. He is a good fit for Chip Kelly’s offense and a very gifted, athletic prospect. He would also be good value in that range. I’d love for the Eagles to find some way to get Sammy Watkins from Clemson, but that’s just not happening. He should be a Top 5 pick and the Eagles aren’t likely to sell out to move up for him. Beckham is more of a 20 to 30 guy in terms of value.

Beckham is 5-11, 198. That’s not huge, but it is a good, solid build. He has the kind of strength and physicality that Kelly wants from his WRs. Beckham is a good blocker on runs and screen passes. He will engage defenders and work to sustain blocks. He’ll occasionally catch a DB off guard and “ear-hole” him.

Beckham isn’t a player that goes down on first contact. He is deceptively strong. You don’t see a huge guy, but tacklers do have to work to get him to the ground. He’s able to handle contact off the line of scrimmage and downfield. Beckham will work the middle of the field as a route runner and after the catch. He’s not shy about contact.

Kelly needs WRs that have good RAC skills and Beckham certainly is gifted in that area. He is elusive and has good vision. He has an excellent burst and good speed. Beckham ran a 4.43 at the Combine. That speed shows up on game tape. He’s not a guy like DeSean that can just outrun every defender, but Beckham beats most guys. His burst allows him to create some initial separation and makes him dangerous any time the ball is in his hands.

Beckham has good hands. He plucks the ball naturally. You will see him make some circus catches from time to time. He’s able to adjust to errant passes, especially on short throws. He can go down for the ball or reach up high. Beckham is very good on slant passes. He can reach out and snag the ball on the move. He has outstanding body control, which is a highly underrated key to being a good receiver.

LSU runs somewhat of a pro style offense and you see that in Beckham’s game. He runs good routes. So many WRs run mostly bubble screens and go routes. Beckham runs the full route tree. He makes crisp cuts and moves fluidly down the field. He also moves around the field. You see him in the slot and out wide. You see him right and left, short side and wide side. Beckham is comfortable in multiple roles.

Beckham was used as a runner and PR/KOR. He is a weapon with the ball in his hands and LSU wanted to take advantage of that. He had a pair of PR scores in 2012 and averaged 26 yards per KOR in 2013.

Beckham started 9 games as a Freshman and was a full time starter in 2012 and 2013. He finished his career with 143 receptions. 2013 was his best year. Beckham was 59-1152-8. That was good for 19.5 yards per catch, which shows you his big play ability.

Combine numbers:

40 – 4.43
BP – 7 reps
VJ – 38.5 inches
BJ – 10’2′
3C – 6.69
SS – 3.94

You may wonder about the 7 reps. Beckham has long arms (32 3/4). Doing bench reps for a WR with long arms is tough. By comparison, Brandin Cooks is 5-10, 189. His arms are 30 3/4 and he did 16 reps.

Beckham would fit right in with the Eagles. He could play the slot a lot and let Mac and Cooper focus on playing outside. Beckham could help as a RS right away. His RAC skills would make him effective on screens. Kelly talked about the importance of being able to beat man coverage in a recent interview. Beckham is a good athlete, but also can use his route-running skills to get some separation from DBs.

In terms of a pro comparison, he might remind you of Victor Cruz, minus the awful salsa dancing of course.

Some highlights for your viewing pleasure.

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  • dislikedisqus

    I’d love to see them get him but they have to believe he has the patience to endure 6,000 questions asking him to compare himself to DJax.

    It is hard to see them trade up for a WR after just letting DJax go so I think Evans won’t be here, sadly.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      so now we will shy away from getting a WR because we released our best WR and dont want another good WR to respond to questions about being compared to desean?? Thats a head scratcher.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        if thats the case lets fire chip and howie now so that bullish doesnt happen. lmfao

    • Robyn
      • dislikedisqus

        Yeah, that was a cool interview. Guy has the right mental makeup to step in, for sure. And those numbers are insane. And that first RAC clip – wow!

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    I like Odell more then cooks. Odell is a legit outside WR. Cooks not so much. And the way odell competes for the ball in the air at his size, kind of reminds me of steve smith.

    • Anthony Hart

      You’re reading too much into Cooks height, he’s about as tall as DeSean. Watch his game video, he plays outside and wins vs double and sometimes triple coverage.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        nah its not his height, its his catching radius… and i have watched his game video. He is a slot guy in the NFL.

  • http://twitter.com/ezgreene ezgreene

    I have a hard time imagining a WR in the first. Doesn’t seem like Kelly valued WR at Oregon, and there’s two starters firmly in place.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      I think thats has more to do with the fact that he couldnt get the top WRs to go oregon. He is in the NFL now and great WRs takes the heat off the running game

    • anon

      I think he saw how we got dominated last year in man coverage. I think he’ll put more of a premium on having someone that can do that consistently. But you’re right, we also need pass rush and i think that’s something that he really values.

      • lewis don

        Who in this draft is the best at beating man coverage at the Wr position?

        Odell my pick for Wr for us in the draft, and cooks would def be another one id like to see out there.

  • nicolajNN

    And as a bonus he should be able to provide some serious competition for Henery

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      We need a flat out upgrade on our kicker. the kid cant get it into the end zone.. thats a problem

      • lewis don

        I dont trust henery…Miss the old akers…

  • mike5832

    I like cooks a lot. I have been watching his tape all year. its unfortunate that the desean thing got so out of hand….but cooks or Lee would be the best fit. hands down. cooks was the best WR in my opinion, first team all American, Biletnikoff award winner (excuse my spelling) overall beast.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      Odell is the better pure WR.

      • mike5832

        true. I just went and watched more of Odell. can’t decide who is the better playmaker. Odell is a beast with YAC but I wanna say that Cooks still looks better overall to me. just my opinion

        • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

          i want a WR that can make plays and snatch the ball in the air, since throwing accurate catchable balls is foles strength, and thats odell. (between odell and cooks)

        • lewis don

          Yeah Odell I believe has better hands. but cooks toughness and quickness. Id like to see us draft them both.

        • ceedubya9

          If I’m looking for a DeSean replacement, then I’m getting cooks all day. Otherwise, Bekham seems like a better overall fit for what Kelly might want to do. Still, they may want to just trade up for Evans. If he gets down to 12-15 I wonder if they might try to make a move…

    • anon

      Looking at the breakdown of these guys Lee looks terrible compared to the other top 4 prospects he’s grouped with. His drop percentage is up near 12% which is dumb high (landry is at 2.5%, most WRs are 4-6%), he also ran very few deep routes, which could be a product of the offense, but could be a product of his skill set.

      Cooks is a great YAC/RAC receiver. But he beasted the combine so might go higher than ODB, though they’ve both been getting lots of praise.

      Landry is more of a possession receiver and all around BEAST. If we can get ODB and Landry we’d be too stocked at WR but Foles would probably be the best QB in the league.

      • lewis don

        by too stoked you mean having too many reliable targets?

      • ceedubya9

        Give me someone like Latimer to go with my ODB.

  • jshort
    • jshort

      That puts closure on Djax….and what they might be looking for in a WR.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        no it doesnt, thats a flawed article based on targets and the “trust who ever is in charge of team(chip)” article.. lol..

        Desean creates space for players when he doesnt get the ball…

        “Darren Sproles can do a lot of what DeSean can do on underneath routes, but with surer hands and better route running skills.”

        No darren can NOT do a lot what desean can do.. lmfao cant even belive they said that

        • jshort

          should have put…..That puts closure on Djax for me. It’s done, he’s not coming back and he wasn’t worth the money ….To me anyway.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            wasnt worth the money? smfh

          • Malcolm Jones

            The reason they say not worth the money is because I think we are leaning towards a New Orleans offense; where no one man is the big play guy but everyone has big play capability. With Desean, he is the big play guy but when he is gone it seems like the offense falls. Next year our offense wont rely on the big play WR, but will be a pick ya poison offense. IF you shut down or double team Maclin, Cooper should prevail, and if you shut down Coop, Ertz will murder you, and if you shut down Ertz, Benn, Mccoy or sproles will get you. So in this offense the WR is less valuable than a smart QB who can spread it around and a coach whose system lets you plug the next man in and get production.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            jimmy graham is about to break the bank in NO.

            and you mentioned Benn.. uhhh.. smh

          • Malcolm Jones

            Benn hasn’t got to see a down and isn’t special by himself, but when he is put with the right guys, he can be a really good piece in the slot.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Benn hasnt seen a down because is freakishly injury prone.. dont even count on that guy, pretend he isnt even there. they guy didnt even make it to a preseason game for cchrist sake

          • anon

            Dude enough — i’m as annoyed as anyone but what’s the point? I was really excited to talk about Jarvis Landry but there’s a whole page of this tired DeSean stuff.

            Yes I agree he’s a great WR, i think people are undervaluing him, i think he’ll be hard to replace but he’s gone. Just like when you break up with a g/f it sucks, but then you move on and find some other chick to obsess about which what we’re trying to do.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            lmfao.. you posted this comment in response to me talking about the ghost arrealious benn? really bro? like for real? Wasnt even talking about desean.. jesus christ.

  • MichaelFloyd84

    I’d rather not spend a first round pick on a sub 6 foot WR. I’m tired of stalling out in the redzone while watch other teams with monstrous size WRs score easily.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      yeah but odell has a 39 inch vert, you know of when we had a WR like that? yeah me either. Odell can be a factor in the rezone because of this and his strong hands. But yes i would LOVE to have kelvin over odell

    • TommyLawlor

      Cooper and Maclin are your RZ threats. Both guys are good in there.

      And Beckham is almost 200 pounds. He can play in traffic.

      • Insomniac
      • MichaelFloyd84

        Cooper, Ertz I understand. But self tacklin Jeremy Maclin isn’t a guy that will fight to get into the end zone or catch a fade over a corner. He plays much smaller than his size. What’s so wrong with wanting a 1st round WR to be Gordon/Dez/Julio/Marshall/Demaryious/Jordy sized. Every other team drafts beasts but we have to make due with undersized guys and being bad in the redzone is looked at like its a coincidence.

    • holeplug

      RZ won’t be as big a problem b/c Foles is QB now

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        pretty much, but man imagine Foles and kelvin in the red zone.. we would be dominate!!! and thats what its about, not being good, or even very good, but dominate!!

        • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

          PLUS kelvin can get down field

        • mksp

          Kelvin also runs sloppy routes and has questionable hands and is like 24 years old. No thanks.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            He is a raw route runner and has drops, but he can make all of the catches, his hands arnet questionable, his concentration needs to improve. But he can play the slot and block, i have seen him line up in the slot and block rushing LBs. Chip will LOVE THAT!!!

    • ceedubya9

      Redzone stalling was as much of a problem when Foles was in there in that second half of the season. Like Tommy said, Cooper is big and so are your TEs. Maclin has proven to be a reliable redzone threat in the past. Size is good, but good routes also helps down there too. I think Bekham would be good down there.

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    The thing tha pisses me off the most is if desean was 6’3 210, with the same exact career, eagles fans would worship him as god.. he has always been the underdog because of his size. thats why i always though he was perfect for us in philly. because we are always the underdogs.

    • Malcolm Jones

      My problem with Desean is he can give you Miracle in the meadowland

      s II or give you the New Orleans Saints play off game…..The Highs are great, but the lows are crippling.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        yeah.. same thing goes for dam near every player that has ever played. lol.. not everyone is consistently great. And desean helped us in the saints game.

        • Malcolm Jones

          That is exactly why you can’t just depend on having a desean, because when desean is gone so is your offense…but in New Orleans every year a new Wr was plugged in (some no name guy) and was productive. That is what we are doing here.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            No it was colston and jimmy gramham. how do you forget about jimmy freaking gramham and colston? smh

          • Malcolm Jones

            Jimmy played in the superbowl? I remember Adrian Arrington, Colston, Henderson, Meachem, Moore and Roby. Shockey was still the TE…my point is alot of no name guys won the trophy.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            So you are talking about years ago… lol.. and every year an unknown guy was plugged in? they plugged jimmy graham in.. lol.. and colston was a no name? shocky too? false. how many super bowls did we win when reggie brown was our top WR? zero.

          • Malcolm Jones

            The point is Kelly feels like his system is what made Cooper have a break out year, its what made Mccoy win the Rushing title, and it was what made Desean have the outstanding year he had. And if it was indeed the system….then forget the names and plug in any WR who is atleast has good hands,good YAC, good routes, and blocking ability and we should keep rolling. WHy pay Desean when I can pay Meachem, Moore, Henderson and get production spread out. When it’s time for Desean to get paid he is going to go to the money.. when Cooper gets paid, he knows the system benefits him and is the cheaper option thus long term success over short term success (great guys who leave for the pay).

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Soooooo… “plug in any WR who is atleast who has good hands,good YAC, good routes, and blocking ability” So plug in any WR that is very good. lol.. Those guys you mentioned cant even do all of that. The point is the saints have jimmy graham/sproles/kenny stills creating space. and with a HoF QB pulling the trigger. kelly needs a WR that will make defenses draw coverage to them to open up the running game.

          • Malcolm Jones

            Jimmy/sproles/and kenny barely got pass us and got murdered by the champs….Graham cant do it alone and sproles was thought to be replacable by the saints who have thomas and ingram. The QB runs the show… the good ones make any WR good. (see Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers)

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            so this grand scheme/system you want applied that saints do, got murdered by the champs, and thats what you want/expect the eagles to do?? smh..

          • A_T_G

            Is it wrong that I read “smh” as an invitation?

          • ceedubya9

            It helps having that guy Drew Brees something or rather…

        • Malcolm Jones

          He helped after a bad/average db was put in the game.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Like i said he helped.. lol.. Good CBs slow down good WRs all the time. i guess cowboys should cut dez sionce our DBs (sconces and flecth) got to him pretty good..cmon now.

          • holeplug

            Dez torched our secondary in both games last year

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            no he didnt, we held in check for most of those games… he broke a couple that inflated the stats.. the 1st game he saw 17 targets… only got 8 of them.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          DeSean is gone brother. Not every player we look at as a possible WR need be compared to DeSean. That’s like your girlfriend breaking up with you and ask you do is compare the new girls you meet to your ex. It just never works. Fresh slate, new day.

          I like ODB a lot, but like Jordan Mathews even better.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Im not comparing him to any WRs that we are looking at.. Where did u even get that from?

            I like Jordan Mathews as well. Dude has a great work ethic, underrated long speed and those huge hands chip loves.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That was actually meant for a different comment. My bad.

            The Jordan Mathews was meant for you.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            ahhh gotcha

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I think Mathews is probably the most complete WR in draft both in skill, natural ability and physical measurements. I don’t know why exactly yet, but he reminds me of TO.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            He could be, but that short area qucikness doesnt seem to be there, he def has the straight line speed. and while he has the huge hands and size, he doesnt seem to have the elite body control and doesnt go up and pluck the ball as often as you’d like.. so that kinda puts some other WRs in front of him.. but he will be a good pick up for us or anyone else..

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            oh and ODB!!! what a nickname!! ahahahaha love it!!

    • meteorologist

      6’3 210 people don’t do what desean can do. Just can’t seem to explode the same. Like in the Miracle punt return.

      I appreciate him as the special talent he is. Doesn’t mean we don’t move forward as a team

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        ok make it 6’1// smh..

      • anon

        I remember that game. Thought it was over so took the g/f to the bedroom for recreational activities and missed it. Now i watch every minute — even of the Dallas game.

        • meteorologist

          I remember listening to it on the radio in the car. Got home pretty much just in time to see the punt return. Incredible feeling… I watched it through one time, but now I just skip to the part where we make our comeback.

        • ceedubya9

          I was watching in a TGI Friday’s, and then when I saw it get out of hand, my wife and I left to go do other things. Got back home to see the score tied and DeSean about to receive a punt. After getting over the shock of how we got to this point, I remember telling my wife “It would be funny if he ran this back for a touchdown.” Ha, man what a game.

    • SteveH

      Didn’t we have a thread where you could air your grievances and move on? Let it go dude.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        Nah… cant/wont untill the eagles give me a solid reason to let it go… they havent as of yet.. maybe you should slow down on the kool-aid

        • A_T_G

          And that is your choice, but go post in that thread.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            ill post where i want..

          • Caveman_Bob

            smh

          • SteveH

            The whole idea of that other thread was to give you a place to vent, so that you don’t fill up threads that aren’t about DSJ with DSJ talk.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Its not a “thread” its a post, an article. And i left that comment on this article because its new and relevant to what i was thinking at the moment.. , who goes back to old articles and leaves comments.. then no one will read them… and i talked about a lot more then desean in here.. why dont to stop telling me what to do and actually add something to the convo..

        • Malcolm Jones

          Kelly doesnt feed the media…you will probably never get your answer…if you ask me…the charity event where all the players said the same thing was Chip kelly giving you your answer in advance.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Well thats good enough.

        • Cafone

          Maybe they have… They signed a damn good receiver that we didn’t have last year: Jeremy Maclin. Remember his numbers were always affected by having Jackson lining up next to him. Across from Riley Cooper in a Chip Kelly offense there’s no reason he can’t put up numbers similar to Jackson’s last season.

          In fact, he may put up bigger numbers. This article on BGN raises an interesting point. Maclin’s numbers went up with Foles rather than Vick at QB, Jackson’s went down: http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/3/23/5536496/desean-jackson-rumors-jeremy-maclin-replace

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            No they havent. His numbers were inflated due to having jackson on the otherside. lol.. And theres a reason he cant put up numbers that desean did.. he isnt as talented.

            And that article is terrible.lol

        • laeagle

          HEY! I HAVE A GREAT IDEA! I’ll post after every one of your posts, and say, “Yeah! I agree with you!”

          Would that get annoying? Probably. A whole lot of posts with me saying the same thing over and over.

          Continue that thought exercise…

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            Do what you want. doesnt bother me at all.

            and if you are trying to say i post the same thing over and over again, guess u didnt read the comments of me talking about other WR prospects. Step ya game up buddy

    • eagleyankfan

      did you eat paint chips as a kid?

      • D3FB

        I don’t know why but this made me laugh harder than I should have.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        thanks for adding to the convo.

        • eagleyankfan

          It’s a quote from a movie. Just having fun.
          It wouldn’t matter if DJ was 10′. It had to do with his attitude, not his size or his play or his fondness of the Yankees(ok, that I made up)

  • Daniel Lee

    Read some about Beckham and his inability to beat press coverage and disappearing in games at times. Didn’t watch enough but anyone can speak to this?

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      where did u read it at?

      • Daniel Lee

        Kyle at igglesnest. Here’s the twitter link
        https://twitter.com/igglesnest/status/451822158495248384

        • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

          Thank you. Although not sure i agree with him.

        • Anders

          I disagree with him. He is cherry picking something he is not doing with other prospects. Every college prospect will rip of majority of stats versus lesser talent.

          By his token Khalil Mack only has 1 game with production against NFL talent, rest of tape is either versus crap competition or him been a non factor versus Baylor

        • mksp

          Kyle isn’t great at……this.

          ODB shows more NFL skills (route running, hands) than Evans does, just doesn’t have the physical talent.

  • GermanEagle

    Any advise of how to get David out of my mind everytime I am reading the name Beckham is much appreciated.

    • Insomniac

      Watch more American football.

      • GermanEagle

        Having lived in London for 6 1/2 years and being born and bread in Germany is not making this any easier, despite watching every Eagles game live since the invention of the Internet. But ok, since living in NYC now I am trying to watch more NY football, Jets that is.

        • SteveH

          Oof, watching Jets “football” probably isn’t going to help.

          • anon

            If you watch the defense you won’t be able to watch the eagles after.

          • GermanEagle

            Lol , I was kidding. However I am seriously considering going to a Jets game this year to watch Mike Vick play.

    • A_T_G

      Easy… David who?

      • GermanEagle

        This is so real…Not! Lol

      • Jamie Parker

        Now THIS is what we come here for. Look at the funyuns on her!

      • planetx1971

        Aye Carumba!

    • Michael Winter Cho

      Any advice as how to not read ODB as “Old Dirty Bastard”?

  • Insomniac

    Can I expect a follow up post on the guy playing opposite of him? My mancrush on Landry rivals Anders and his mancrush on ODB.

    • anon

      Landry is a beast, though maybe that’s b/c of ODB, but i think Landry is the more well rounded – possession type receiver. I’m e-mailing Kelly tonight letting him know.

      • Insomniac

        ODB doesn’t help when Landry rips balls away from DBs and make them look silly regardless of tight coverage, Lets just say both benefited from each others presence.

        • anon

          I’m right there with you on him.

          • Insomniac

            Hope he tests well at his pro day. Landry in a midnight green #81 uniform would make Avant proud.

        • A_T_G

          So we should draft both, just to be safe?

    • Anders

      I have a huge mancrush on Landry as well. He is a more dynamic Avant and that is a huge compliment in my book.

  • TommyLawlor

    I’ll be covering all of the top WRs. This isn’t to say that we must go get a WR in the 1st round. Just happens that there are lots of good ones and that could be the pick.

    • Cafone

      WRs are obviously more topical at the moment, but I am looking forward to reading your reports on potential OLB picks. It just seems like more of a need right now despite Jackson’s release. It also seems like a position that might be tougher to fill with a later round pick.

      • GermanEagle

        True, however from what I’ve been reading there’s a huge drop off from The top 2 OLB this year, and Dee Ford may be very well gone too.
        I think it will come down to choosing between ODB/Cooks and a CB or Safety at #22, resulting in picking a WR simply because of the bigger need.
        You just have to remember that the Eagles are one injury of Maclin or Cooper away to make this below average receiving corps a terrible one.

  • mtn_green

    ODB. Really fights for the ball. Good timing, good hands.

  • Cafone

    Beckham gets the EDP seal of approval:

    http://youtu.be/Om9s5tepLmg

  • baxter322

    Jordan Matthews and Brandin Cooks would be much better fits. We just lost our two best route runners, 2 guys who knew how to get open and had the best hands on our team. All of those are Beckham ‘ s weaknesses. Beckham rounds out his routes too much, like Maclin, and we can’t start two receivers like that, no matter how elusive.

    Matthews runs a 4.46 at 6’3″ 215, put up 21 reps with 33.4 inch arms and is the most polished route runner in the draft. He’s more of a true #1.

    …but as Jackson’s replacement, you can’t do better than Cooks. Desean isn’t just fast, he knows how to use that speed. Could you imagine if we managed to get both? Or even another pair of lesser receivers, like Robinson and Ellington? In this system, even two guys like Herron and Janis might work in rounds 4 & 5, allowing us to draft 3 talented defensive players.

    • Insomniac

      Why can’t we? The Bears don’t have any other types of receivers yet they do fine. The Dolphins had a well balanced blend of receivers yet they stunk.

      Beckham is top 3 in terms of hands in this draft. I’d argue that he’s only behind his teammate Landry. Not sure what you’ve watched but Beckham is good enough of a route runner and it’s not like you can’t teach route running. Robinson and Matthews isn’t anything special.

      http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46136/349/peshek-wr-metrics-20

      • Anders

        BUT THEY ARE BIG SO THEY MUST BE GOOD AND CAN BECOME NEXT JOSH GORDON

        • Michael Winter Cho

          but, but, but, ‘big people beat up little people’!

    • Anders

      Matthews do not run polished routes, he hardly runs any routes unless you think a screen is a route.

      • Patrick

        In my opinion, DeSean Jackson doesn’t run great routes either, which I think Baxter argues. Avant does, but I think its a mood point to argue that the offense will suffer much from his release, we all knew that Avant didn’t contribute the same way he used to. I think when it comes to route running ODB is just as good a route runner as DeSean, but I do agree that ODB doesnt have the same pure, natural running ability that DeSean(and to a lesser extend Brandin Cooks does), but people need to understand that DJax is special that way, he runs like an olympic sprinter. ´

        • Anders

          ODB runs better routes than Desean

    • Shane Brown

      Beckams weaknesses are route running and hands??? You obviously have not watched him play. He runs crisp routes and catches everything. Im an lsu fan and watched him whenever i could and what i saw was one of the most well rounded receivers ive ever watched in the ncaa

    • mksp

      ODB does not round his routes too much, have no idea where you’re getting that idea from. He’s one of the most polished route runners in the draft, with far more explosiveness than Matthews.

    • eagleyankfan

      we just lost our 2 best route runners? oh boy…

    • RC5000

      Beckham is excellent setting up DBs, gets in and out of his breaks quickly and gets separation. He also runs a high percentage of routes for first downs, gets open on corner routes. He is more of a traditional WR who runs all the routes.
      Who says Kelly wants to replace Jackson? We don’t know what he will want in a starting WR. Does he want a tiny WR in the first round to start? There are many small WRs later in the draft, maybe he will draft Thomas. Beckham is bigger than Cooks and a much better run blocker something Kelly MAY want.
      I do like Cooks and Beckham if we go WR in 1st but we don’t know exactly what Kelly wants in his starting WRs. It’s close. Beckham has a significantly wider catch radius and was terrific at times catching Mettenberger’s somewhat inaccurate passes at times.
      You also can’t necessarily go by Cooks and Matthews 40 times without pads. That’s always a tough question. Didn’t think either played up to their times on the field in pads. Cooks is quick and is fast but I don’t know if he’s a burner like Desean. Beckham also covers more ground faster than Cooks with his strides.

  • GermanEagle

    OT: what does smfh stand for? #shakingmyfurryhead

    • ceedubya9

      Close!

    • Arby1

      Just read that smh originally meant: so much hate, before morphing into: shaking my head.

      • A_T_G

        I thought it meant smack my head, as in “Help me, I am saying such dumb stuff, please smack my head!”

  • Shane Brown

    By far my favorite prospect in this draft. This dude just catches EVERYTHING. Suprised that you didn’t mention his huge hands, which chip will love. Not only does he run every route well, but this dude puts the effort and energy into every play he is on the field. Even if he knows he is the quarterbacks last read on a play, he still goes 100%. Love the fact that he makes blocks downfield too. I think he is the best fit for our offense out of all the receivers, besides sammy watkins but like you said hes top 5.

    So huge hands, catches absolutely everything, high motor, consistent, runs crisp routes, catches the ball in traffic and doesnt shy from contact, and he returns kicks. Talk about Exactly what we need

  • Shane Brown

    I see a lot of you guys talking about Brandin Cooks. I like cooks playmaking ability, but imo he has trouble catching the ball in traffic. Look at his tape, and you will see that he will drop the ball on occasion when he is about to get hit because he is too worried about bracing for the hit. He also drops the ball when hes open on occasion because he starts running before securing the catch. Now these are just things that happen on occasion, and i think hes a good WR. These are just things that you don’t see out of beckam.

    And for those of you who want marquise lee, great player, but i never agree with drafting someone who has a history of injuries.

    • ztom6

      I agree with you on Cooks and I think he will get overdrafted.

  • A Roy

    *off subject*

    Tommy, I was just read an article saying that PBR is up for sale. They said the brand is growing due to “urban hipsters”, who like it because it’s light, fizzy, and cheap. Care to comment?

  • lewis don

    “Kelly needs WRs that have good RAC skills and Beckham certainly is gifted in that area. Beckham has good hands. He plucks the ball naturally” – You had me at Kelly needs, and Beckham has….

    One thing is for sure, there are alot of good Wrs this draft. I cant compare to previous years, but I like many prospects. But I agree that we should get this guy.

    My only concern is when we should get him. How long has it been since we drafted a Defensive player with our first pick? (too lazy to look that up).

    We have to address the defense. As close as we are to getting an explosive offense. I am worried we will suffer defensively. Unless B. Logan, and Cox make huge strides this year, our QB pressure will be pedestrian and our corners arent quick, or good enough to hold coverage very long without giving up short yardage. that means another year of watching teams marching down the field, putting more pressure on the offense.

    On the other hand, how much better can these picks make the defense. Maybe we do boost the offense and draft later for the defense. It could certainly pay off. But Im a believer that defense wins championships. Our defense is just not there.

    idk, this draft is gonna have to depend on whos available.

    My strategy would be draft the best defensive player unless a great Wr is left on the board. If mike evans somehow slips to 22…we just gotta take him.

    But will odell make it out of the first round?

    • Anders

      2012 Fletcher Cox? In 2012, the first 3 picks was defensive and the 4 of the top 5 was defensive with Foles in between Curry and Boykin(g)

      • lewis don

        How could I forget..

  • eagleyankfan

    If this is what this off season is going to be like – I’m sold. What I liked — a few times he caught the ball near the sideline and tried to get more yardage instead of just stepping out of bounds. A few times he caught the ball around the hash mark and turned inside. Inside is where more defenders are going to be. He didn’t seem to care. What I didn’t like, for 1 millionth time we read on how great a return guy is in college only to come to the Eagles and we never hear about him again. I wouldn’t mind if I never read that again as it doesn’t carry any weight.

  • illadelphia iggle

    If he is on the board at #22 I say pull the trigger. This guy shows tremendous effort, and good use of athleticism. I like when the Eagles draft players from the SEC.

  • Sean Stott

    So conflicted. I want Beckham, but I also want Pryor. I really believe Pryor will be available.