Player Interest List
Posted: April 1st, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 198 Comments »Back in 2003 or 2004, a person on the Eagles Message Board and I began tracking pre-draft interest between the Eagles and prospects. We didn’t have nearly as much info as we do today, but it was still a fun exercise and helped us to understand what might happen in the draft.
This is useful information, if you understand it.
Last year all of the Eagles picks visited Philly, with the exception of Josh Huff, who Chip Kelly knew a thing or two about. It doesn’t always work out that neatly, though.
One of the reasons I track all the Pro Day info is to know where the assistant coaches are going. They will tell you not only who the Eagles are interested in, but what positions seem to have some priority. That or you have bored coaches who love to go to Pro Days.
The fact that Jeff Stoutland ran Ali Marpet’s Pro Day workout shows special interest. The fact Stephone Anthony had dinner with Eagles staff (probably Chip Kelly & Bill Davis) prior to his Pro Day shows special interest. Neither player is a 1st round pick, but that doesn’t mean the team can’t really value them in the round where they are graded.
I’ll post some analysis on players and positions in a later piece. For now, let’s take a look at the draft prospects the Eagles have shown interest in.
COMING TO PHILLY FOR A VISIT
* LB Danielle Hunter – LSU … visit coming soon
* WR Breshad Perriman – UCF … visit coming soon
* OLB Shane Ray – Missouri … April meeting
* OLB/DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa – UCLA … already visited
* WR Rashad Greene – Florida State … visit coming soon
* LS Joe Cardona – Navy … visit coming soon
* TE Randall Telfer – USC … visit coming soon
* CB Kevin Johnson – Wake Forest … visit coming soon
* WR Jaelen Strong – Arizona State … already visited
* ILB Benardrick McKinney – Miss State … already visited
* WR Nelson Agholor – USC … already visited
* FS Damarious Randall – Arizona State … already visited
* OL Terry Poole – San Diego State … visit coming soon
* WR Chris Conley – Georgia … visit coming soon
SPECIAL WORKOUTS / PRIVATE VISITS
* ILB Johnior Sylvestre – Toledo … worked out by LBs coach at Pro Day
* ILB Stephone Anthony – Clemson … had dinner with him prior to Pro Day
* ILB Kyle Emmanuel – North Dakota St … ILB coach at his Pro Day
* ILB Jordan Hicks – Texas … ILB coach at his Pro Day
* ILB Martrell Spaight – Arkansas … ILB coach worked him out at Pro Day
* ILB Jake Ryan – Michigan …. ILB coach worked him out at Pro Day
* ILB Gabriel Martin – Bowling Green … ILB coach was at his Pro Day
* ILB Darryl Lynch – Bowling Green … ILB coach was at his Pro Day
* ILB Ben Heeney – Kansas … 30-min. phone conversation with ILB coach
* ILB Justin Shirk – Bloomsburg … met with him at his Pro Day
* ILB Yannick Cudjoe-Virgil – Maryland … met with him at his Pro Day, did chalk talk
* S/ILB Shaq Thompson – Washington … workout/visit
* S Adrian Amos – Penn State … watched tape with him at Pro Day
* S Kurtis Drummond – Michigan State … DB coach at his Pro Day
* S Brian Blechen – Utah … private workout
* S Ibraheim Campbell – NW …. private workout
* CB Quentin Rollins – Miami …. DB coach worked him out as S & CB at Pro Day
* CB Kevin Johnson – Wake Forest … DB coach at Pro Day
* CB Trae Waynes – Michigan State … DB coach at his Pro Day
* CB Eric Rowe – Utah … private workout, Chip Kelly at his Pro Day
* CB Byron Jones – UConn … Chip Kelly, Bill Davis at his Pro Day
* CB Garry Peters – Clemson … worked out by DB coach at his Pro Day
* CB Justin Coleman – Tennessee … talked to scouts after Pro Day workout
* CB Cam Thomas – Western Kentucky … private workout
* CB Travis Manning – NW Missouri … scout at his Pro Day
* DE Caushaud Lyons – Tusculum … DL coach worked him out at Pro Day
* DE Henry Anderson – Stanford …. DL coach at his Pro Day
* DE Jordan Williams – Tennessee … DL coach worked him out at Pro Day
* DE B.J. McBryde – UConn … talked to family, spent time w/ him at Pro Day
* DE Corey Crawford – Clemson … Bill Davis at his Pro Day
* DE Mario Edwards – Florida State … DL coach at his Pro Day
* DL Eddie Goldman – Florida State … DL coach at his Pro Day
* DL Gabe Wright – Auburn … DL coach at his Pro Day
* DL Angelo Blackson – Auburn … DL coach at his Pro Day
* DL Jordan Phillips – Oklahoma … DL coach at his Pro Day
* NT David Parry – Stanford …. DL coach at his Pro Day
* OLB Obum Gwacham – Oregon State … met with Eagles prior to his Pro Day
* OLB Bud Dupree – Kentucky … met with him at his Pro Day
* OLB Ryan Russell – Purdue … met with him at his Pro Day
* OLB Shane Ray – Missouri … OLB coqch at his Pro Day
* OLB Vic Beasley – Clemson … Bill Davis at his Pro Day
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* OL Terry Poole – San Diego St … worked out by OL coach at Pro Day
* OL T.J. Clemmings – Pitt … worked out by OL coach at Pro Day
* OL Brandon Scherff – Iowa …. worked out by OL coach at Pro Day
* OL Ali Marpet – Hobart … OL coach ran his Pro Day workout
* OL Mike Coccia – New Hampshire … worked out by OL coach at Pro Day
* OL Al Bond – Memphis … Asst OL coach worked him out at Pro Day
* OL Andrew Donnal – Iowa …. worked out by OL coach at Pro Day
* OL Tyrus Thompson – Oklahoma … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OL Darryl Williams – Oklahoma … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OG Adam Shead – Oklahoma … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OL Cam Erving – Florida State … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OG Tre Jackson – Florida State … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OG Josue Mattias – Florida State … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OG Mark Glowinski – West Va … Asst OL coach at his Pro Day
* OG A.J. Cann – South Carolina …. worked out by OL coach
* OL Bobby Hart – Florida State … OL coach at his Pro Day
* OL Visesio Salt – Utah … private workout
* OL Jeremiah Poutasi – Utah … private workout
* OC Ross Hall – Villanova … coming to NovaCare for local Pro Day
* QB Marcus Mariota – Oregon … QB coach at his Pro Day
* QB Bryce Petty – Baylor … QB coach had dinner with him prior to Pro Day
* QB Cody Fajardo – Nevada … QB coach worked him out at Pro Day
* QB Brett Hundley – UCLA … private workout & film session
* QB Brandon Hill – Monmouth … private workout for April 8
* WR Devante Davis – UNLV … met with scout for 30 mins on Pro Day
* WR Vernon Johnson – Texas A&M-Commerce … met with him at Pro Day
* WR Rasheed Bailey – Delaware Valley … met with him at his Pro Day
* TE Blake Bell – Oklahoma … had dinner with him
* TE Kennard Backmon – UAB … private workout
* TE Casey Pierce – Kent State … private workout
* TE Brian Parker – Albany … private workout
* TE Tyler Kroft – Rutgers … private workout
PRO DAYS ATTENDED BY CHIP KELLY
Clemson
Utah
Alabama
Michigan State
Penn State
UConn
LSU
MISC PRO DAYS
* Northwestern Pro Day …. scouting exec Anthony Patch in attendance
* North Texas … area scout
* Lafayette … area scout
* Coastal Carolina … area scout
* Buffalo … area scout
* Portland State … area scout
* James Madison … area scout
* Florida Atlantic … area scout
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Great stuff. Will you update this as we learn more and more?
I wonder how this compares to the Reid era. Seems like Chip’s team is far more diligent with scouting like this.
Eagles were all over the place back then. Just didn’t have as much info. Juan Castillo traveled all over the place looking at kids. He’s the one I remember most.
Yeah seems like it’s a reflection of Lurie. Eagles seem to be one of the more active teams meeting with players every year.
Seems like we also were extremely active with “smoke screens” in that era as well. Been a long time since we would could claim the Eagles took it easy during the off season.
Chip attended LSU Pro day as well
Awesome work, mate. Thank you.
So many CBs!!
Great list.
I feel like with Kelly he is less inclined to bring a player in just to fool another team. He’s also less inclined to draft a player he hasn’t personally met, especially early.
Forget the off season moves. Kelly has to nail the first round pick this year.
Great work. This is the kind of stuff we can’t get elsewhere, and why your opinions are so valuable.
We’ve talked to like 100 guys and not one RB? I’m assuming we won’t take one (i don’t think CK has taken a running back since he’s been here) but thought fore sure we’d talk to some guys considering “this is one of the deepest classes ever”.
Wow, haven’t really thought about that. Unless it was an UDFA I think you are right in saying that he hasn’t drafted a RB. It sounds surprising, but I guess when you think about it you can see why. Whether it’s been players he has inherited or FA signings before draft we have been loaded at RB. Really thinking about it, it’s highly impressive that the Birds haven’t ever been considered weak at RB for 2 plus decades. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m 26 so maybe I’m forgetting about a time in my younger years.
interesting last question because I remember how exciting Wilbert Montgomery was because we had been so RB starved all my youth until him. and he is still my all time favorite player/ ha, I laffed out loud because I didn’t consider that 20 years ago .. uhm over 20 years ago
Can you think of another team that has had such good RBs for this long of a stretch with no interruptions?
The last team I can think of was the Broncos back in the 90’s early 2000.
True, but I still don’t think that was as extensive of a stretch of time however. While that was due to RB talent alot of that had to do with Shanahans zone blocking. It was said he could take any RB and make him succesfull. The ANY RB is of course an exaggeration, but I do think he deserves some credit as well. Keep in mind I am not discrediting Portis and other talented backs, but I do think it has to be looked at in context. Again I’m 26, I was very young then. So if I’m wrong correct me.
Pretty much spot on. Davis being the best of the RB’s. It had a lot to do with Shanahans system… I know the dolphins tried to poach a couple RB’s from Denver to compliment Marino, but they didn’t pan out.
interesting & thought provoking because I don’t see it that way.
WIlbert Montgomery was an underdog who made good. Same with Brian Westbrook (and andy reid got very lucky w thim). So that makes them the best & my favorites.
.. never thought keith byars & duce staley were any good at all. Herschel & Ricky Watters only came at career end. everyone else has been ‘just passing through’ ..
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you caused me to look up our top RB’s ever and its not like theres any HOF names .. Steve Van Buren and (Chuck Bednarik) ..greatest and we missed them by several generations
Good stuff. Interesting some of the names not there in the OL list. It’ll be good to know who else they talk to before the draft.
all this ILB interest. “me” thinks kendricks is gone!
titans would be a natural partner for nayone on our defense. Not sure if the ILB stuff happened before or after we got Kiko.
Funny bc titans have something we could use too.
Dick Lebeau?
Dick
Michael Sam isn’t on this team. Edit: I am sorry if I offended anyone with this comment. I am not for or against homosexuality. I am just for making light out of situations because sometimes the most serious situations could require a little humor.
Don’t quit your day job…. :)~
Lol what if I really want to?
Forgive me if I am being dense right now, but who are you referring to?
Their number 2 pick we can use for Mariota.
Titans have a decent 2 deep at all 4 of their LB spots.
Could they use a DL?
Probably not. They have Jurell Casey to lead the line and then a bunch of decent rotational or better guys behind him. I think their weakest spot on D is backup DB. They only have 1 good one.
well, Ryans isn’t getting any younger, and outside of Kendricks and Kiko (if healthy), none of the other guys are close to being a sure thing. It only makes sense to look for depth/future starters there.
Just read something really interesting on a comment on Kempskis site. Apparently all of Chips players play or practice with a sort of GPS device that I guess is within their pads or under their jersey. It is used to record quickness, distance traveled, and explosion of moves such as jukes. Can anyone confirm or deny this is true? I find this interesting not just for the obvious reasons but because of Shady. There has been much debate over whether he lost some of his explosion and quickness in his moves. My thinking here is that if Chip truly does have these devices on his players then he would have concrete evidence that Shady did lose a little of his spunk, therefore he knew for a fact it was time to move on. Comments anyone?
They do wear devices (player are starting to wear them during games as well) unclear exactly how much they can tell, but i’m sure the computer can tell things the eye can’t.
It would make sense if it measured speed and explosives, whereas I don’t think it would make much sense if used for just distance or in case a player became lost during a game or practice. I just think it’s possible it could have really played a part as to why Shady isn’t on the team. Especially considering Chips appeared faith in science.
“WHERE THE HELL IS PARKEY?!”
“Well Chip according to the GPS he seems to be wandering up and down broad street”
“HOW THE HELL IS THE KICKER CONCUSSED!!!”
They wear them to sleep too. Where u been?
The Polar system and Omegasystem tell you much about a player’s fitness. Maybe they do have concrete evidence on player decline.
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/07/24/chip-kellys-mystery-man/
It reminds me of this CHIPS episode where they had some kind of similar device for the police officers (they were way ahead of their time in the early 80s). All I remember is a female cop falling down and causing alarm, but it was because a puppy had jumped up on her.
That’s correct. It measures acceleration, speed, distance run, and it has complex algorithms to analyze these metrics based on what the player is doing and the angle of his change of directions. These devices are also on all the weight machines and track each players ability to lift weights explosively, how fast they lift the weight, how much power/toque they generate. Chip most certainly has spreadsheets of data on exactly how much players are losing throughout the year and year to year.
So do you think it would be fair to say that Chip had a truly concrete reason, besides the other reasons that have been stated to ship Shady off?
Saw a stat that something like 75% of Austin’s catches last year were for first downs. If that’s the case i can understand why we like him.
I think the main selling point on him was his size and add his precise route running and Chip schemes to get players open he could actually end up being pretty damn effective. If healthy of course. Of course character played a part in it. Lol, I am so sick of adding the if healthy disclaimer to almost everything.
yeah the health disclaimer is pretty annoying.. also dont like going into the season with so many “IF’s”… if this guy can stay healthy, if that guy can stay healthy, if this, if that, then we could end up seeing a good team… so many “IF’s” sounds like we are talking about the Phillies”
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I assume a big part about why we signed Miles was that he is versatile enough to lineup outside or in the slot.,,.last year we were seeing Jordan stay in the slot, but chip always spends a players rookie season having him focus on one spot… like Ertz, I expect to see Jordan and Huff move around and lineup in different spots this year..Miles Austin fits as a player you can lineup at a bunch of different spots..heck he is so versatile that i dont think we can label him more outside then slot or vice versa
Kyle Emmanuel is an OLB. He’s 6’3, 255lbs.
I’m guessing the ILB coach worked him out because the OLB coach was maybe at Utah (Nate Orchard).
Our ILB coach was who many thought would be our OLB coach, so I guess he has plenty expertise in that area
So who pays for the flight and hotel accommodations for these prospects? The team, player or agent?
Has to be the team.
Team.
They do the same thing when they bring street guys in for workouts during the season (except those are usually in and out the same day).
This is great. Thanks Tommy.
There’s a thread on the EMB with a few regular contributors who do a really good job keeping up with this stuff. Has some other names in addition to the ones here.
Latest mock:
Round 1 Pick 31 (N.O.): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 2 Pick 27 (DEN): Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State (C)
Round 3 Pick 4 (OAK): Anthony Harris, SS/FS, Virginia (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (F)
Round 4 Pick 14: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 9: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (B-)
Round 5 Pick 20: Damian Swann, CB, Georgia (D-)
Round 6 Pick 20: Zach Wagenmann, DE/OLB, Montana (B-)
Round 7 Pick 20: Justin Coleman, CB, Tennessee (D)
Once again these are based on where I think the players will actually go. For instance I could have had Strong at #20 but there is no way he falls that far. Analysis: I picked up Clemmings because I feel he brings the physicality that the coaches want. We saw how he can finish blocks and frequently dominates his opponent. I like the idea of plugging him in right away and moving him over to right tackle later on. Agholor is another piece in solving this somewhat dim WR picture we have painted. While he may not have an “elite” trait, you can see his competitive nature in the way he plays. I also think he has underrated RAC ability. Sambrailo: I honestly haven’t watched anything on him but I trust D3FB in his lineman endorsements. Harris is a bit thin but I think he can add the weight and be more of a factor in the run game. He isn’t timid when tackling but just needs a pit more bulk behind him. As a side, watching him against FSU, he was able to stone Winston at the 5 to save a td. I like his coverage ability and some will appreciate his ability to read a pass play and actually roll his coverage to where the ball was going in order to force and inc. Conley is an obvious choice because of his physical attributes. James was good value at the spot. The last one I’ll touch on is Ryan. He used to play OLB and has made the transition to ILB. Word is he is a tape freak as well. Chip will love his commitment to football and versatility but dislike his 31″ t-rex arms.
I’ll overlook trading back 11 spots for a 2nd and very early third.
I think Strong has a decent shot to be there at 20. He’s the unanimous WR4. Last year WR4 was Cooks, who went… pick 20.
Sambraillo, watch him. Do it. He’s so underrated and so much fun to watch. Especially the BC game. Do ittttttt.
Wagenmanm made me happy on the inside.
Wagenmanm made me happy on the inside.
Wagenmann has also a nice creepy ring to it [in German:the trolley man]. It could easily be a headline of a horror movie in theatres: “The Wagenmann delivers”.
Does it sound creepy when you say it with a German accent?
I don’t have a German accent. 😉 People confuse me with South Africans or Australiens most of the time. lol
What?!?! Lol
TREVOR NOAH!
IT”S YOU!
Strong was avaiable with the 20th pick in the second round, not first. I traded back 8 spots in the first for a late second and it was the Cowboys. I think that is reasonable.
I’m not really into fans throwing darts but it’s interesting that there are no guards. Are the OT’s projected as guards or are you happy with the guards that are in place?
Clemmings can certainly be a guard.
You’re throwing darts. I can’t even give you credit for hand grenades because they account for “close”.
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It’s no offense to you. Unless you’re in Chips inner circle, you’re doing a “who you’d like to draft”. You(not you specifically) have no clue who Chip is targeting.
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How exactly though, do you have a better read? If you said a couple of months ago that the Eagles are targeting Bradford, DM and Miles Austin, then yes, I’ll concede that you have an idea. Again, it’s no offense, it’s a ‘how can you possible know’? In all honestly, I do read your mock drafts(and D3FB’s) and that’s about it. At least I can make sense of what you guys are projecting…..
Take for instance Jake Ryan. Chip had a coach go work him out, therefore I think he may be a target. I’m not projecting everyone I like, for instance, I think Derron Smith may be the best safety in the draft but I don’t think Chip will like him because he is on the small side. You’re right though, I really have no idea what is going on lol! I think only Chip really knows what’s going on. It’s just fun to do and I make it as realistic as I can.
i want Jesse James on this roster!!
interesting that Huff didnt visit, yet Howie was still comfortable enough to draft him, since we are going with the Narrative that this will be kellys first draft lol…If howie gets ripped for Marcus, we should praise howie for Jordan Mathews, Huff, Beau Allen…
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Cool to hear that players were hearing Tales of Pope Jordans work ethic league wide… Miles Austin was asked about Jordan, and while he said he hasnt met him, he talked about how last year he was already hearing amazing things about Pope Jordan and his work ethic. He talked about how that its impressive to have a rookie’s work ethic be talked about league wide… seems Jordan has a nice reputation league wide.. Apparently, one of Jordans Vanderbilt team mates were raving about Jordan to Austin last year..
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Pope will bless us with a monster coming out party this year… Iron sharpens Iron, and that kid is spending his offseason training with the star veteran WR’s in this league. Learn a few tricks of the trade…
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while Huff is working with the footwork King, focusing on getting off press man…
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very curious to see what our sophmore WR’s look like this year.
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Im also curious to see how defenses decide to defend against Chip kellys new roster….
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year 1 we saw press man, last offseason chip talked about focusing on improving our ability to beat press man, but then the season came and we ended up seeing more zone then man… Chip was asked how he anticipates defenses playing him next year and he said probably they will switch back to man defense…
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but this is a very different looking offense that we are going into the season with, with a bunch of new weapons… Be curious to see how teams end up playing us in year 3.,..
In trying to make some sense(what else do I have to do today, work is boring :)) — about the draft last year. Obviously(well, in my mind) Chip had a list of players for Howie to target. The golden 6 atop the list and Howie didn’t land 1 of them. I think that’s the reason Howie was pushed out. I can hear Chip now “Howie, I gave you one job to do”….lol
Marquis Goodwin might be getting cut… isnt he the kid with concussion issues? “Situational Deep threat”, wouldnt mind taking a flier on him and seeing how he looks in Camp..
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“WKBW’s Joe Buscaglia considers Marquise Goodwin’s roster spot in jeopardy.
A situational deep threat, Goodwin has struggled with injuries and was benched in favor of Chris Hogan last year. With the Bills signing Percy Harvin, Goodwin will be competing for one of Buffalo’s final receiver spots. 24-year-old Goodwin is entering a make-or-break year in 2015.”-roto
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in other “deep threat news:…
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“Miami (FL) WR Phillip Dorsett clocked forty times of 4.25 and 4.27 at the Hurricanes’ Pro Day.
Seeing as Dorsett ran 4.33 on the Combine’s “slow track,” we already knew he was fast. Dorsett has drawn some T.Y. Hilton comparisons for his versatility, but also possesses the ability to outrun coverage a la DeSean Jackson. He’s only 5-foot-9, 185, a deficiency that figures to keep Dorsett out of day one.”-roto
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typically i dont trust pro day speed, but i dont need to look at a stop watch to know that this kid can really fly once he turns the jets on..
Breshad Perriman is actually in Philly right now…. he is at novacare aleady
Interesting…safety ibraheim campbell is visiting philly today as well..
Wonder who the QB throwing to Strong is today..
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I remember one of the WR we brought in were working with Tebow lol poor kid, goes on a draft visit and has Tim Tebow throwing to him LOL.. Forgot which of the WR prospects it was
On the flip side, if he can look good with Tebow maybe he’ll look great with a real QB!
Who’s a big Jaelen Strong fan, you or Perriman?!
According to inside emails, they both are fans.
Connect Four — Blocked
Brandon Hill from my own back yard? Color me interested…
Lots of inside LBers…
How many of those were after we acquired Kiko. I hate the idea of losing Kendricks, but I fear that might be what’s going to happen.
for mariota? cant see another situation in which we’d trade him.
2nd trade up or for a mid pick
i can’t see us getting a second for kendrick, but that’d be nice.
I would see us trading kendricks + our 4th for another 2nd
He’s worth a mid / late 2nd rounder straight up.
dealing him for anything less than a 2nd would be hard to understand.
If the Eagles get a 2nd rounder in return and draft Kendrick’s replacement [Anthony or McKinney] who’d meet Chippah’s physical criteria.
I agree that it’s the only scenario in which he’s dealt. Hard to see them just dealing him to deal him unless it’s a cap management move since they’d have to pay him, Cox, and Kiko right around the same time, along with Ertz and Logan.
Kendricks(and change) to Saints for S Kenny Vacarro.
People said the same thing about McCoy. I think IF Chip doesn’t see Kendricks as part of the teams future he will trade him to help us fill other spots in the team and it won’t necessarily be for Mariota.
Mykal and Erik Kendricks will be together on tonights episode of “Path to the draft” on NFLnetwork
Agholor has Chip written all over…
I think the same thing after watching his video. So here’s a question (not that life is either or):
If you are in RD 2 and Agholor is there with Rowe or Drummond, do you take the S or do you take the WR?
Also, if they don’t go OL with the 1st pick, do you take Agholor or Marpet/Grasu/some other good OL prospect?
I guess technically two questions, but interesting dilemma anyway.
I am pretty sure the Eagles will spend either their 1st or 2nd on a WR this year.
If a stud o-lineman is there in the 2nd I would take him over Agholor in a heartbeat and that is with the opinion that they draft one in the first a well. This o-line need some youth badly.
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Drummond should be available in the 3rd. I am very hoping he is, I would love him to be there and grab him in the 3rd.
Drummond can be had in 3rd. I think if you don’t go Oline in first you go Marpet in second. I doubt that Rowe will last to our 2nd pick. Alot of people think he will be gone in possibly late 1st.
Tell me please how a player that used to be a 3rd/4th round draft prospect [Rowe] becomes a late 1st rounder within a week. Exactly…!
Exactly what? You didn’t give me a chance to respond so I’m not sure as to why you are saying exactly. Go do some research and you will see that he set the world record for broad jump. Was about like 3/4 of an inch from the record for verticle. The kid had one of the best combines EVER. He wasn’t a third rounder as of a week ago. If we are talking about the CB Rowe from CT then yeah bro you are flat out wrong. Go do some research. Current research, not stuff you have read over a month ago then please come back and speak to me with current info, and don’t be childish like saying EXACTLY like you just won a great debate before the other person even had an opportunity to respond. BGN will give you some great info on him including his spider chart.
Ok. If you Really think that a draft prospect can jump 2-3 rounds on someone’s draft board ‘simply’ due to a great workout at the combine then you are simply wrong. Either a team had him ranked high before the combine already or not. Sorry to ruin your day, but say hello to the game. Bro…
Don’t talk to me like I don’t know the game. I came back to say I accidentally confused him with Byron Jones. So my bad on that. Rowe is considered 2nd round material though. I work sales, my head is swimming all day, I mixed up names. Don’t be a disrespectful prick on a MB. I’ll own to the fact I mixed up names. Aight bro?
My bad. Thought you were talking about Rowe. So no reason for me being a prick. By the way I love Byron Jones.
Ummmmmm.
Byron Jones is the CB from UCONN.
Eric Rowe is from Utah.
I know. I quickly realized that I crossed names and admitted it. Working in high pressure sales all day starts to make your brain go numb by the 3rd hour of work.
Because people who rated him as a 3rd round pick is the media not the teams. Teams most likely have had him with a 2nd round grade long before most media members watched a single minute of film
Thank you.
The Way I see this going is that the Birds go either OL or DL in the first Rd. I think that if they go OL it is Clemmings, or Fisher. They go DL if Armstead is available. IF they pick up Armstead, that makes Curry trade-able, and Curry will net them a high pick. He is most likely walking next year because he will never start in this scheme.
wow that’s some list. tons of OL and ILB.
this must be chips favorite time of year.
KC fans dont know it yet, Andy loves lbs haha. All those years ignored
First self-important mock from that first pick game:
Round 1 Pick 32 (N.E.): Kevin Johnson, CB, Wake Forest
Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah
Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 20: Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke
Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State
Round 3 Pick 32 (N.E.): Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Round 4 Pick 14: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor
Round 5 Pick 9: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan
Round 5 Pick 20: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State
Round 6 Pick 20: Casey Pierce, TE, Kent State
Looks really solid. Tell me about L. Tomlinson and D. Smith. I don’t know anything about them.
L. Tomlinson was a great RB for the Chargers and is probably a 1st ballot HoFer.
I remember when the Eagles held him to -2 yards rushing. I’m glad he was able to grow and add 100 pounds so he could re-enter.
That was great D by the Eagles. I remember.
Wait, we have to know something about the player to pick him? Wow, I have not been taking this game seriously enough.
I appreciate the symmetry of the Philly team picking the Penn State player using the Pittsburgh pick. That would be enough for me.
Blind GM’ing…So like draft everyone from Philly and Oregon. I like it.
Philly & Oregon, that’ll work, but you do drafts where all the players need to have criminal records, or all need to have alliterative names or start with vowels. (Adrian Amos and Ojedabedwho Ojustmessitup are great for those last two.)
Smith is huge but has pretty bad feet and should have gone back to school. He’s the classic Steelers LT. He’s somehow going to just always get in the other guys way due to his size, but a couple times will get beaten like a drum. Doesn’t fit our system.
Laken Tomlinson is a great guard. Super intelligent, high pedigree, amazing character, but not athletic. Phone booth guy. 6’3 325lbs. You want to root for him because he’s a great dude but I just don’t see anyway he’s on our board.
Insert required statement of there being no way that a particular player will be available in a particular round.
one thing about Miles A is his injury last year was not a hammy but a lacerated kidney, so you could say, instead of he is injury riddles, that he is actually a bad ass for continuing to play after essentially getting stabbed!
looks like the birds are spending a lot of time with the Nevada kid cody fijardo.
so why is barkley still on the roster?
Because the Draft wasn’t held yet.
that’s what I thought too, but geagle was asking me why we didn’t release barkely if we want a qb, so I thought i’d ask everyone else too
need like 5 for camp
let em play it out, maybe Barkleys improved. I know, crazy thought that guys can get better. Weak armed footage and INTs dont do him favors but you know what I mean. Im still upset Nick is gone and we didnt get a year 3 and Im forced to pretend Bradford can ever be good
the good news is Bradford is way better then Foles.
at all things.
Except winning.
well now he’ll be on a team that can win.
sproles won some games last year on his own, colts, that had little to do with nick. screen passes
Haha ok.
jags for sure.
im a big foles fan who is actually on board with the Sam trade.. and i do view sam as an upgrade in talent, but one of my biggest concerns is, does Sam have that clutch gene that shows up in Nick Foles come the 4th quarter? i sure hope so;.;…
Its pretty sad that he has no value. I thought it was a bizarre pick when we got him in the fourth, but was hoping for at least some production.
makes you secretly wonder if ck would love alex smith. we complain a lot about not having a deep threat but chip loves noodle-armed guys.
I thought Petty has a decent arm? I know they went to dinner with him. Bradford also has a decent arm I thought?
bradford, tbd, it’s def. not flacco level and he’s got a terrible downfield completion % (caveat for his receivers, line, oc, etc.)
Yeah, I read a stat that his receivers were tops in drops percentage. Let’s hope that translates to better accuracy here.
I wouldn’t mind Fajardo if he was on the practice squad. He put up gaudy numbers, so maybe they think they can coach him up to be a premium backup? I’m not sure what his ceiling is, but he reminds me of a poor man’s Vick. Doesn’t have the same arm, but has the ability to beat you with his legs and he’s injury prone.
people hate kaep, an he’s not even as good as kaep.
geez, a poor Vick? what’s he going to do for money then? hope he stays out of jail
Where is this guy projected to get picked?
Chicago, at the draft…
if kelly really likes a guy he’d take him in the first.
where ever it is it’ll be too early for everyone
Okay, my 15 seconds of research ( I deserved those answers for my lazy question) label him as a 7th round/priority free agent, which is what I thought.
He doesn’t need to be as good as Kaep to spend a 7th on him, and you certainly don’t clear a roster spot for him now…or in June.
Did we run out of things to discuss?
only football-related things, There’s always American Idol and Empire and Fast 7 to talk about!
As a Nevada Alumni I can say in good faith that Cody has to be better than that loser Matt Barkley.
I think poser is a better word because it not only indicates that he isn’t a good football player, but also the fact that he enjoys taking photographs of himself and his wife more than working on his game.
The title of the article reads “Top 10 Best Eagles Draft Picks of All Time” — but no mention of Chris Carter…interesting…
we really have a bad habit of dumping talented WRs.
Can I take a TO?!
Let it go, man. Freddie Mitchell is gone.
haha, Bucs spied on Blackmon before drafting him. Quality work there:
“We found out there was a bar called the Cricket Inn or the Cricket,
which was a popular bar there in Oklahoma State,” said Dominik. “He [the
scout] sat there for one week, went in at 3 o’clock every day and
stayed until 11 o’clock at night. That was his job, and we checked how
many times did Justin Blackmon come in? And he came in too many times
and we took him off our board.”
Wow, this is intense. I wonder if our scouts do the same thing.
I have an inside source that says Chip’s been scouting all of the fixin’s bars that AR used to haunt.
haha good thing my employers didn’t hang around my college bars during that time. I would have never gotten a job.
Yeah how many times is too many times? My second semester my senior year I was probably at the bar 5 nights a week.
i guess the key is diversification…
How the hell did I end up with a job where I have to do stuff and be responsible for stuff when there are jobs where you sit in a bar all night and see who comes in? I used to do that FOR FREE!
Your lucky, I always spent money.
So the Bucs passed on fuck up Justin Blackmon and took instead… Mark Barron.
Ryan Tannehill and Luke Kuechly were the next 2 picks.
Shame that scouts quality work went to waste.
Probably doesnt feel great to be Breshad Perriman, come to Philly for a draft visit, during the same day chip is in florida watching Nelson Agholor work out….
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You can’t work out players at private visits to your team facility. One of the big reasons to have a private visit with a guy as opposed to a private workout(away from facility) is because then you can give the guy a physical. Perhaps they have some type of medical question about Perriman(maybe test his vision as to see if maybe that plays into his high drop percentage).
yeah probably going over X and o’s with shurmur or bicknell. Then I believe most prospects that enter the building also meet with Lurie.
Interesting to see Daniel Hunter visiting philly, could be a 2nd round pick. If we draft him it would mean a lot regarding MSII as an Howie pick, quite similar frames and stats.
or it could mean we need a 4th OLB since we only have 3… Braman doesnt count. I like Marcus, yet I still would love to see us spend a 1st round pick on Dupree… dont see that as an indictment of MS2.. I see that as needing 4 edge rushers to throw at teams
It seems they are quite high on T.Long though
… Im high on Travis Long too,… doesnt mean I can count on a player who has gotten injured 3 of the past 3 years…doubt Travis is factoring into our draft decisions
So you’re telling me you don’t count on sammy? 😉
Travis is even worse… got hurt his last year in college, and then got hurt his first two offseasons in the NFL… at least Sammy has stepped on an NFL field.
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I was a big Travis fan, Im sure the eagles are too, i just doubt they trust his body enough to have him factor into any of our draft or free agent plans… I assume that if he makes our roster(aka stays healthy) it will be a pleasant surprise, more then something we were counting on..
we have two veteran OLBs, Barwin, and BG… need two OLB’s on rookie contracts for the next 4-5 years learnig behind our starters, maybe rotate in as a situational pass rusher when Barwin needs a breather..I assume Marcus is going to sub in for BG
no wonder they gave barwin more $$ he’s not going to be able to come off the field this year.
he hasnt come off the field since joining the eagles..
Hunter is very athletic. Some of his measurables are better than everyones favorite OLB Dion Jordan.
http://mockdraftable.com/player_embed/4875/
LOOK AT THE LIST.
He was considered an heir-apparent to Mingo, but his college production was pretty disappointing. Taking him in the 2nd based all on potential feels like a reach.
OLB is a hard position to contribute well in your first year in the NFL, especially in a system like the eagles which demands a lot of coverage responsibility and emphasises run defence.
If you look at ‘successful’ first year OLB’s they tend to be specialist pass rushers who were asked to do that and that only.
MSII was picked to be deep rotational/backup and to develop for the future.
Hunter is even more raw than MSII was in college from a pass rushing perspective – let him be depth/developmental for 2 years and then as Barwin starts to age slide him in to start.
He could be a great pick but use a 2nd and wait 2 years for true production is quite hard to accept with holes in our OL and at S
Well you draft one of the safeties in this draft and you will probably being waiting forever for them to contribute. Just not a good group at all.
I don’t know why but I actually think we will draft heavily on O. I think the change of DB coach could help our young players to contribute and change drastically the look of our depth and starters in the secondary. I think we could see the same kind of trade down we saw last year (trade back 5 to 8 picks to get a early third or late 2nd) and we will go OL, WR and either OL again or best Defensive prospect on our board.
I think they will pick at least two OL and a WR in this draft. I could see them go S in 2 or 3, but they need OL help bad.
I’m thinking if they can get at least 1 starting G and a G/T for the future, we can make a smooth transition when it’s time for both Mathis and Peters to leave.
be terrible if chip threw howie under the bus on that pick…maybe stat-wise he fit but he wasn’t a “football” player.
I got a kick out of this from Roto:…
“Free agent DL Corey Wootton visited the Titans.
Wootton appeared in 15 games for the Vikings last season, but played just 275 snaps. He was a liability as a run stopper, and generated zero pass rush. The ex-Bears starter turns 28 in June.”
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so the Defensive lineman was a liability as a run stopper and generated No pass rush? tell me how you really feel rotoworld? lol what is he being signed for then? because he makes a mean buffalo chicken dip?
I’ve got a feeling that MS III will be a bust. Sorry.
a bronze bust in Canton?
No. A canton in bust.
whatever that means….
I really don’t know.
haha ok then
Good thing the Eagles have MS II then.
So a player drafted at the bottom of the first round, playing a position that rookies don’t often find immediate success in the 1st year, oh and not to mention he was playing behind 3 veterans that were playing at a pretty high level and yet he’s a bust? That doesn’t make sense man, the kid needs at least another year before being labeled a complete bust.
Don’t get me wrong. I’d love to see this kid succeed, but it’s just my gut feeling telling me this terrible feeling.
lol Gotcha brotha. Me personally I am holding out all hope that I am right about the 2nd year leap.
It’s always about the 2nd yr leap! 🙂
I do agree that it is too early to count out MSII, but pass rusher/OLB isn’t exactly a position that struggles to have rookies perform. This year Mack, Barr, Ealy, Telvin Smith and Jonathan Newsome played significant roles for their teams. Attaochu and Aaron Lynch played quite a lot too, not to mention the ILBs like Mosley and Borland who played great, or players like Aaron Donald or Timmy Jernigan who also showed their raw ability as pass rushers, Jernigan even did it on a pretty stacked front 7.
Last year, Ziggy Ansah, Mingo, Ogletree, Worrilow and Sio Moore played very well, hell even Werner proved he could find the QB, not to mention some guy from Oregon won the DROY, he played for the Bills I think.
The year before that, Bruce Irvin, Chandler Jones, Merciless, Zach Brown, Coples, Hightower, Lavonte David, Bobby Wagner Burfict, Kuechly, hell even Mychal Kendricks flashed major potential.
Year before that, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Jabaal Sheard, Kerrigan, Sam Acho, McPhee, Brooks reed, Houston, Quinn.
MSII has proved jack shit, which is extremely disappointing, even though he was considered raw coming out and played behind a lot of strong players. He should have been able to flash some potential either in coverage or as a pass rusher(both things he was supposed to do well), but didn’t even show enough to get on the field.
Dude do you watch football? You just named a bunch of names at LB not even coming with info to back your statement.
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-Mack was a top 5 pick and played in a 4-3 so why mention him.
-Barr is the same he played in a totally different system
-Ealy had 12 tackles, 4 sacks
-Telvin Smith was on a terrible Jagaurs team that forced him into the lineup,which Smith wasnt forced to do.
-Newsome see above because he was forced into action because of e terrible LB play on the Colts
-Attaochu was hurt most of the year so i dont know how you can include him
-Aaron Lynch i give you but he also played oppopsite Smith when he did play and the niners had a good defense.
Then you just go on rants about a bunch of ILBs which shouldnt even be mentioned because they were natural ILBs not like Smith who was forced to learn that position because of injuries. Then you also mentioned players from 2-3 years ago some who are DEs and some who are ILBs,
Man you are all over the place with your comment mentioning multiple different positions playing in multiple different systems and some that didnt even do much,
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My point is Smith was stuck behind 3 veterans that were playing at a high level so it is hard to see the field and contribute since like i said OLB is a difficult position for a rookine to contribute, especially in the system the Eagles run. Did you really mention players like Sam Acho who has done nothing when it comes to pass rushing, McPhee who had one good year. Come on man if you’re gonna go on a ridiculous rant have some info to back it up
You’re such a Debbie Downer these days. Cheer up! you’ll have so many more things to be angry about once they actually start playing.
Correcto mundo!
What really sucks about Bradford injury questions is I wouldnt be surprised to see him absolutely LIGHT IT UP come week 1. I wouldnt be surprised to see him look fantastic in this offense…… his level of play really isnt my concern. My concern is him staying on the field for 16-20 games…. It will hurt even more to see him light it up in this offense for 4 games, and then getting stuck watching Sanchez the next 12 games… my nightmare is probably him looking like the ultimate Tease, and then being lost for an entire season…
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hopefully the OL, and the play calling protects the hell out of him. Pass it as little as we have to. I like that with an injured QB, we are sorrounding him with Big wide Recievers better suited for quick hitting “run after the catch” passing game, instead of slow developing homerun deep balls… Im sure we will add a deep threat, and im sure we willsend Ertz down the Seam, but im hoping for 30 plus carries per game out of the RB’s, and alot of screens, quick hitters designed for run after catch, and play action passes…
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Cowboys used Demarco to protect Romo from himself basically. Protecting Romo from having him do too much which often results in him imploding… Chip needs to use his expensive stable of RBs and OL to protect bradford as much as possible with his play calling… Gotta get this kid a healthy year under his belt to really jump start his career
or bradford could suck generally. that’s my biggest concern. luckily i don’t think we’ll be jealous of what nicky stixx does in STL.
That Brandon Hill kid looks like he could be a diamond in the ruff
Is that when your dog eats your engagement ring?
He seems to be very accurate and stands tall in the pocket
Looks like OLB is more of a priority than expected. McKinney and Shane Ray if he falls could be 1st rounders