Huff on the Rise

Posted: July 22nd, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 159 Comments »

The biggest jump for most players is from Year 1 to Year 2. Rookies have to adjust to a whole new life, on and off the field. In the second year, the player has some security off the field, knows the playbook and has a feel for pro football. He can then concentrate on honing his craft.

Jordan Matthews exploded onto the scene as a rookie. Josh Huff had much more of a typical rookie season. He flashed ability, but also made mistakes and looked…like a rookie.

Matthews might be the key to the Eagles passing game heading into 2015. Huff is hoping to earn a starting role or at least become a productive part of the offense.

There isn’t just blind optimism in regard to Huff. He is actually trying to do something about the situation. Tim McManus wrote about Huff and his efforts to be a more polished receiver. We won’t know if Huff is truly better until the season, but there is some reason for hope.

Huff had some good moments in minicamp and Chip Kelly had plenty of good things to say.

“I think he’s just more mature in terms of – he’s more comfortable; I shouldn’t say ‘mature’. I think he’s a mature young man to begin with.  I think he’s just more comfortable in terms of all the things going on around him,” said Kelly.

“You see him helping out Nelson [Agholor] and some of the undrafted guys we brought in here.  I think he’s done a real good job from that standpoint. I think he’s carrying himself in a different manner now just because I think he’s a year older.”

“I think he’s made great progress,” said Kelly. “The biggest thing with Josh is just consistency.  I think it is for most guys. When you come in as a first year player, he was obviously set back a little bit because of his injury, and then missing the first portion of the season, but then just flashed at times.  Has a kickoff return for a touchdown, which was a heck of a return.  Just a more consistent basis in terms of his performance out there.  I think he’s really been a lot more consistent, and that’s what we’ve been trying to work on with him.”

You can see a bit of Huff in action here.

Huff needs to step up to help the Eagles replace Jeremy Maclin. Give Huff an A for effort so far, but the NFL is all about results. He’ll need to start producing when Training Camp gets underway here in a couple of weeks.

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Emmitt Smith and LaDainian Tomlinson have both come out and said that DeMarco Murray left yards on the field last year. ESPN’s Ed Werder made a great point about that.

Those guys are picking on a player who just did better in one season than they ever did. How funny is that?

And I think plenty of Eagles fans would tell you that LeSean McCoy left yards on the field as well. All RBs do. Part of playing the position.


159 Comments on “Huff on the Rise”

  1. 1 wee2424 said at 11:10 PM on July 22nd, 2015:

    I think Huff may end up impressing alot of people in the near future. He has really good RAC ability, runs with the physicality of a RB. Definitely can be a very good weapon on KR.

    That being said I view him more as a slot receiver/offensive weapon then a wideout. Him working the middle of the field and gaining yards on screen plays is what he is best at.

    I think Austin and Agholor start on outside with Mathews in slot. All 3 WRs will move around from slot to outside. Huff will be primary KR and will be featured all over the field. Outside, slot and even backfield as an offensive weapon. We saw him in the backfield last year and he was effective.

    Yes I do think Austin starts on outside over Jmatt and Cooper. Jmatt will be in slot majority of the time where Kelly seems to like him. Very similar to Colston. I think Austin may be a better receiving option then Cooper, and while his blocking is not on Coppers level he is effective and willing at it.

  2. 2 Media Mike said at 6:15 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I’ll take anybody starting over Cooper at this point. Fake tough guy Bob Bitchnell can talk until he’s blue in the face about things Cooper does well, but the guy sucks.

  3. 3 unhinged said at 7:48 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Kelly likes him. Kelly wants to run. Cooper is their best blocking receiver. Cooper will start.

  4. 4 bdbd20 said at 7:53 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I disagree. Cooper is a very good blocker. If Huff, Austin, and Agoholor can be adequate, they will play over Coop. I’m not even sure Cooper will make the team. Lots of talent at that position this year.

  5. 5 wee2424 said at 9:26 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    He will make the team. Makes no financial sense to cut him, and as much as he blew last year he is a veteran. All of our other WR are rookies or 2nd year guys, or a veteran that is learning this playbook for the first time.

    Plus he has been a decent ST player in the past. Kelly could always put him on ST. His blocking on KR and PR would be nice.

  6. 6 bdbd20 said at 9:40 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I don’t think Chip thinks in terms of financials. If he feels like one of the rookies (or perhaps a guy at another position) will help the team more, he will cut Cooper. The hope is that Riley steps up with the competition. If not, he will be gone. The guaranteed money to Austin was a bad sign for him.

  7. 7 xeynon said at 1:42 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    I don’t think Chip thinks in terms of financials.

    I really hope this isn’t the case, but given his personnel decisions this past offseason I fear you may be right. In a salary-capped league, not at least taking financials into consideration in roster construction is a good way to end up where the Redskins, Raiders, etc. have been the past decade, i.e. Salary Cap Hell.

  8. 8 bdbd20 said at 7:03 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Let me rephrase that. Chip the GM does take $$ into account. Once the player is on the team, Chip the coach is going to keep the best 53 guys. If a high priced player is beaten out, so be it.

  9. 9 Jernst said at 12:40 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    I wholeheartedly disagree. I think Chip has been masterful at getting the most out of his cap space. We had a host of holes on this roster coming into the season and after you set aside cap space for rookies, resignings and in season pick ups we only had about $10million of usable cap space to rebuild and replace a lot of the team. Through releasing and trading our over paid players he created an extra $30million in cap space and went to work retooling the team. He stated before that he wanted to fix the disparity in spending between the offense and defense. The former of which was taking up 25% more of the cap. And with only adding $8.5 million in pay roll to the cap spending he added Maxwell, Alonso, Thurmond, Murray, Matthews, Bradford, Miles, kept DeMeco, resigned Graham and added our draft picks. That really is getting the maximum out of spending an additional $8.5mil of our initial $10mil of usable cap space.

  10. 10 FairOaks said at 2:29 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    At this point I don’t think the financials matter. His salary is a sunk cost whether he is on the team or not, but there is no additional financial penalty to cutting him. The cap would rise a tiny bit since you’d also have to pay the player who does make the roster, but that is probably chump change at this point. It’s really a matter if Kelly prefers another player to Cooper. I still doubt Cooper gets cut (though it may well depend on his preseason performance), but I think it will be purely a roster construction decision (i.e. player talents).

  11. 11 wee2424 said at 8:25 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Apparently I’m late to the party on this one. Maybe I missed something that is just very obvious. But who the hell is Bob Bitchnell, and what does he have to do with the Birds.

    Too add, just so I don’t look like a fool, is it really Mitchnell and there was just clever word play on your part?

  12. 12 Media Mike said at 4:44 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    No worries.

    Bob Bicknell is the Eagles WR coach. I’m not a fan.

    For starters, he doesn’t do teh math too good in a rather lame defense of Riley Cooper.

    He becomes Bob “Bitchnell” when he is complicit in the removal of DeSean Jackson from the roster.

  13. 13 Tumtum said at 11:54 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Thanjks for the links. Insight I didn’t have.

  14. 14 Tumtum said at 12:03 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    After reading those article I’m not sure where your hate for bicknell comes from. He had netted career best for not only Riley but Desean, Maclin, and did a hell of a Job with Matthews. Yes it’s Chips O but he has to get credit. I like him.

  15. 15 xmbk said at 7:36 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I think WR is truly a position where the competition during camp is going to determine a lot. Agree that the team is prepared to start Austin if any of the young guys aren’t ready to step up.

  16. 16 McNabbulousness said at 11:24 PM on July 22nd, 2015:

    for sure he your typical rookie mistakes, but damn if he didn’t make them at the worst possible times. TOs were horrific. he almost single handedly cost us the cardinals game

    hoping for a kickass jump between years 1 and 2. hold on to the ball and i think you’ll be alright!

  17. 17 Mark Saltveit said at 11:42 PM on July 22nd, 2015:

    To be fair, his mistake against Arizona was not protecting the ball sufficiently, so that a wily veteran was able to strip it out, in the middle of an otherwise great red zone play. That’s not nearly as bad as, for example, Marcus Smith II leaving Frank Gore wide open for an easy TD, violating instructions because he was hoping for the glory of a sack.

  18. 18 A_T_G said at 12:43 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I never understood the mindset of the player going for glory like that. Do they believe that their teammates won’t notice that they abandoned their post? Do they think that the coaches will forgive them because it worked?

    Worst case is Gore strolling in for a touchdown and everyone knows why, but, I mean, best case scenario, the people who decide your career future deal privately with your insubordination.

  19. 19 anon said at 2:58 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    difference in the game, difference in the season.

  20. 20 Anders said at 3:32 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I would understand the frustration if Smith was a 5 year veteran at his position, but the fact is, it was the first time he ever played the Jack position last year.

  21. 21 GEAGLE said at 2:49 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    On top of that it’s not like he messed up the initial play… It was just a breakdown in a scramble drill… marcus was supposed to “Plaster” the guy he was closest too, but he lost track of Gore, and the other defenders assumed Marcus was going to Plaster Gore… It was a rookie mistake in a busted play.. Costly rookie mistake, not exactly an issue THATS difficult to correct,,,

  22. 22 Anders said at 2:28 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    One is a bonehead mistake no player should ever make (for how long has Huff played WR?) and the other is a typical mistake of somebody who has never played a certain position before (Smith has never had coverage responsibility like he had last year)

  23. 23 Insomniac said at 3:36 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I think Gore is a rookie too…oh wait.

  24. 24 D3FB said at 5:39 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    No defensive lineman Huff had ever faced before had the ability to run him down.

    That’s part of adjusting to the NFL. I think it clearly helped him understand that if you dance too much, 300lbs of mean has the ability to catch you. That’s not true in the NCAA, or Houston high school football.

  25. 25 Media Mike said at 6:07 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    All the team had to do was show Huff some film of Duce Staley. EVERY 300lb+ player ran down Duce from behind.

  26. 26 wee2424 said at 9:21 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Or Reno Mahe on PR. It was agonizing at times to watch a DL chase him down from behind. Man never muffed a punt though.

  27. 27 wee2424 said at 9:19 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    You really can’t say no player should ever make. It’s a fumble, they have been happening on a consistent basis since the start of football. Jerry Rice has fumbled. Peyton Manning has fumbled.

    He is a rookie that showed really amazing YAC and then got caught from behind and out muscled by a 300 lb DL. He wasn’t expecting a DL to catch him because that could never happen in all of his life before when he has played football. So yes, it is a learning process.

  28. 28 Mark Saltveit said at 12:34 AM on July 31st, 2015:

    Huff has played WR for 3-4 years; IIRC he was recruited as a running back and converted. I know he played some RB at Oregon (and one snap last year for Philadelphia). Smith told reporters he dropped in coverage half the time in college.

  29. 29 Anders said at 2:21 AM on July 31st, 2015:

    Difference between dropping in coverage in a basic zone scheme and having man responsability on a delayed RB routes (due to broken play)

  30. 30 wee2424 said at 9:23 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Was it him purposely violating instructions, or a confused rookie? There is a difference. I have been under the impression it was confused rookie.

  31. 31 Ark87 said at 3:57 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    In my opinion there are 2 kinds of rookies. The first type is the most common. While they are getting used to the new league and learning, things aren’t yet first nature so they think about things and it slows them down.

    Huff to me seemed like the other type of rookie, He got surrounded by that blur of madness that is pro football and he ran right in full speed. A little reckless and prone to mistakes, but I think that will go away as the game slows down around him and all the little things become second nature.

  32. 32 xeynon said at 1:48 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Marcus Smith II leaving Frank Gore wide open for an easy TD, violating
    instructions because he was hoping for the glory of a sack.

    Uhhh, that’s not what happened on that play. Smith was in pass coverage, just on the wrong guy:

    It was a dumb mistake, but not a selfish one.

  33. 33 Mark Saltveit said at 3:29 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    I remember it differently, and I was in the pressbox. Chip’s comments seem to agree:

    “You’ve got to find somebody and plaster, and I think you had a young guy in there that just kind of lost sight of what was going on, on the play. And then you’ve got to kind of locate somebody instead of getting your eyes back on the quarterback and seeing where the quarterback is scrambling to.”

    But it was a long time ago, I might be misremembering. I’d have to go look at the tape to be sure.

  34. 34 xeynon said at 7:07 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    According to the story I linked, Smith was supposed to cover Gore unless he stayed in to block, in which case he was free to drift to the other side of the formation and help out in coverage on Vernon Davis. Gore stayed in to block initially, and Smith drifted away from him toward Davis. Smith actually was helping on Davis (and running pretty well with him), but of course by that point Gore had leaked out of the backfield and was wide open. It wasn’t like Smith ignored the play call and just flew upfield trying to get a sack – he was aware of his responsibilities in the defense that had been called but misread the play and made the wrong decision, as rookies are wont to do.

    Clearly Smith made a very costly mental mistake here, and I’m fine with criticizing him for that since it’s something he should have been aware could happen, as running backs can release late into patterns in college and high school ball as well. I just don’t think it’s fair to impugn Smith as selfish or uncoachable on the basis of a rookie mental error.

  35. 35 Jernst said at 2:19 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    If I remember correctly, too, Kapernick had scrambled all the way over to the far left side of the field before turning around and heaving a ridiculous pass all the way across the field to the wide open Gore on the right side line.
    It seemed pretty reasonable that he’d lose sight of Gore and not expect him to run a wheel route to the opposite side of the field that the QB was scrambling to.

  36. 36 xmbk said at 7:27 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Bad mistake, but single-handedly? Two big pass plays, including one where two vets no linger with the team made an unforgivable mental mistake, cost them that game more than a rookie trying to get in the end zone.

  37. 37 McNabbulousness said at 11:45 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    some mistakes bigger than others, and that TO on the goal line was an absolute show stopper. changed the whole dynamic of the game. but for sure there were a bunch of other factors that led to the loss. sorry for the hyperbole

  38. 38 Kelce's Beard said at 11:43 PM on July 22nd, 2015:

    …what you don’t hear anyone saying, however, is that the premier talent that is Joseph Randle will somehow surpass that other guy, ol’ whats-his-face

  39. 39 Dan said at 6:39 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I haven’t heard how Randle left a lot of meat on the bone though…haven’t heard how he took a lot of meat off the bone either.

  40. 40 SteveH said at 3:24 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Huff drove me nuts with his mistakes last year. Hope that was just the usual rookie jitters and not something we have to get used to.

    “Fuck he pulled a Huff again” better not become a thing.

  41. 41 Media Mike said at 6:05 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I have 3 things I need from Huff.

    1) Stop the turnovers
    2) Get Riley Cooper the F off of this roster
    3) Improve his stats over Davante Adams, who was drafted after Huff

  42. 42 CaliEaglesFan said at 6:29 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Adams was taken 33 picks before Huff

  43. 43 Media Mike said at 6:31 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    He was. I had him mixed up with John Brown and changed the entry about 2 minutes after I posted it. I don’t know why 23 minutes later you got the wrong version still.

  44. 44 CaliEaglesFan said at 6:46 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    It’s all good. I’m pretty sure I had the tab open for a while. Why do we need to compare him to Brown though? Brown is a good player, but one I doubt you wanted us to draft considering most didn’t have much of an opinion on him leading up to the draft, except for the draftniks. Brown also didn’t really have any competition for that outside spot. Fitz played a lot in the slot and Floyd was the other outside guy. He had an easier time getting playing time and Huff started his season out with an ac joint sprain and didn’t play until week 5 and wasn’t given a lot of snaps offensively to start out which was the right call by Chip. He gets more criticism than he deserves though. Yeah, he forced things trying to make an impact after missing time as an injury, but he showed flashes of his potential whether it was running after the catch, blocking, or returning.

  45. 45 Media Mike said at 6:54 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I think he needs to outperform Brown because our coaching staff judged him to be a better player, so I’d like to see it.

  46. 46 CaliEaglesFan said at 7:43 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    How do you know Brown was even on their draft board?

  47. 47 anon said at 11:28 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    yeah considering he’s a poor man’s djax

  48. 48 wee2424 said at 9:12 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Brown and Huff have 2 totally different styles. It’s not like both are just outside or slot guys and we will just compare.

  49. 49 Media Mike said at 6:23 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Interesting approach to rankings.

    I’m MASSIVELY offended that Barnwell has bum Kaepernitwit on the list at 76.

    He had Murray at 100, which placed him 6th among RBs. I’m curious as to where he has the other RBs on the list.

  50. 50 Anders said at 6:55 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I understand his reasoning. 1 great year shouldnt beat out consistency

  51. 51 Ark87 said at 8:29 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I’m more disappointed in the place Cox ended up. Barnwell is pretty informed so he knows Cox belongs on the list, but he dictates that he needs more sacks to be further up the list. Barnwell is a stats guy, which is respectable, it’s just a shame stats don’t quantify the level of disruption, or account for the fact that Cox is playing a 2 gap and the only way to the QB is to bring his blocker with him (and sometimes the blocker’s friend), and he does that. It was also interesting to watch the compilation of Eagles sacks, since on a lot of them he played a huge role in.

    Also Barnwell meshes “best” with “valuable”. No way in hell does Alex Smith and Kaepernick belong amongst the nfl’s elite.

  52. 52 BlindChow said at 10:26 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Interesting! Makes way more since than the “official” NFL Top 100.

    Here’s a telling stat… Remember when Tommy referred to Blake Bortles as a franchise QB?

    The Jaguars offense wasn’t good anywhere last year, but it was really brutal in the red zone, where Blake Bortles somehow managed to post a 2.1 QBR on his 38 pass attempts. That wasn’t just the worst rate of 2014; it’s the third-worst QBR any passer has posted in the red zone since the stat has been recorded.

  53. 53 eagleyankfan said at 8:02 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    “Matthews might be the key to the Eagles passing game heading into 2015.” — Ya Think?

  54. 54 BlindChow said at 9:46 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I think the key will be Bradford. Matthews will be the lock. Huff will be the doorknob, and Cooper will be that little rubber stopper that keeps the door from opening all the way.

  55. 55 Mac said at 11:35 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Cooper is like the old school door stopper that’s made of a coil and makes a cool farting-esque sound when you flick it with your foot. Pointless, but almost worth something just to kick around and laugh at.

  56. 56 anon said at 7:20 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    i think sanchez has a strong chance to start. is that crazy?

  57. 57 BlindChow said at 8:10 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    With or without an injury to Bradford? I could see it happening, especially if Sanchez just lights it up in camp.

  58. 58 Josh Huff is on the rise heading into his second season said at 8:14 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    […] Huff on the Rise – Tommy Lawlor of […]

  59. 59 CrackSammich said at 9:11 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    It’s really odd to be defending Murray this vehemently. A lot changes in a few months, I guess.

  60. 60 wee2424 said at 9:33 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Somebody always has to hate. Now if he stayed with Dallas you wouldn’t be hearing it.

  61. 61 tag1555 said at 9:19 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I think expectations were a little higher for Huff because he’d worked in Chip’s offense already at Oregon. Have to feel that was a factor in drafting him a little higher than projected, too…so that he had a typical rookie season was perhaps more disappointing than normal, too. To be fair, I think a lot of the mistakes were on things like ball security and poor situational awareness, rather than running the wrong route because of not knowing the system.

  62. 62 MagsBirdieBaby said at 7:06 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Huff did say last year he was surprised that Kelly’s “system” was not the same as it had been at Oregon.

  63. 63 GEAGLE said at 9:38 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Heard some positive rumors about Huff recently. Allegedly things Are starting to click for the young man and he is expected to have a breakout seasom.
    It would be a huge boost if our 3 young WRs are ready to push Coop down into a smaller backüp role.
    So tired of this Leaving yards on the Field crap, I’m sure we can nitpick and say that about every Runningback every year… Lame

  64. 64 GEAGLE said at 9:43 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    interested in seeing Baylors 6’7 415lb athletic TE play a bigger role in their offense this year..
    Between their 415lb athletic TE and Oakman, Baylor sure has some Big people that can put a beating on little people… Be watching those Freaks closely this year, but I’d give Oregon DE Defforrest Buckner a better chance of being an Eagle then Oakman who should be gone by the time we pick

  65. 65 Avery Greene said at 9:49 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    415 lbs?

  66. 66 Bert's Bells said at 11:12 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Look him up. Terrifying. Nearly twice the size of a linebacker with soft hands and some speed. You can’t blame a DB for “taking a bad route” to tackle that guy.

  67. 67 Joe Minx said at 12:53 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I remember he caught a TD in the Cotton Bowl. Was playing guard before but they decided to try him here now.

  68. 68 Ark87 said at 2:15 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Holy Hell!

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 2:45 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Wait till you see how surprisingly quick his feet are..

  70. 70 Joe Minx said at 5:17 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I love how #43 is like “I want no part of that.”

  71. 71 MagsBirdieBaby said at 7:04 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Ah. He could easily lose 100 pounds. He’s FAT! Number 43 probably got disoriented watching all those pounds jiggle and the sound of his thighs mashing together while he waddled downfield.
    EDIT. Not to imply that losing weight is easy, of course.

  72. 72 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:03 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Aaron Gibson was a 400lb lineman from Wiscy back in the day….high pick that was a bust….

  73. 73 Bert's Bells said at 1:06 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Not saying he’ll be an NFL player, he’s just a scary prospect.

  74. 74 xeynon said at 7:12 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Have him lose about 70 pounds and move him to left tackle.. could be the next Jason Peters.

  75. 75 Bert's Bells said at 9:09 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Have him drink the right smoothies he could the next Chip Kelly.

  76. 76 GEAGLE said at 1:17 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    In fairness batlor coach has him down to 403lbs these days.. Claims in 20years all the players will be 6’7 400lbs so they are ahead of the curve. Kids an athlete, legit pass catcher, the problem is with that size and athleticism an NFL team will try and move him to LT, more valuable position

  77. 77 Avery Greene said at 1:20 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Yeah I thought 415 was a typo. It’ll be interesting if they can keep him at TE.

  78. 78 GEAGLE said at 1:25 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Lol Baykor is def keeping him at TE, check the monster out, there is tape of him catching passes… But you can bet the NFL will be all over trying to move him to LT, and tackle is where the money is at so I doubt he will have a problem with it… No friggin clue what round he will go in, a 410lb tackle with quick feet, long arms but never played tackle before, so no clue what round you draft a tackle that has never played tackle, but someone will definitely draft him

  79. 79 Bert's Bells said at 3:30 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Good post on this guy.

    Unless he’s got T-Rex arms it’s hard to see a team NOT putting him at Tackle.

  80. 80 MagsBirdieBaby said at 7:01 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    At 400+ pounds I’m not sure 12 pounds is going to make a whole lot of difference.

  81. 81 Avery Greene said at 9:53 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Here’s an interesting question. With the culture CK wants to build, and all the reading he’s done on mindsets and the like – I wonder what his MBTI results would be. Something like an INTJ?

  82. 82 RobNE said at 12:44 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    think he is I and not E?

  83. 83 Avery Greene said at 12:47 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    That’s kind of hard and the one I have the most difficulty with if I’m not talking with him. I think this one could go either way.

  84. 84 A_T_G said at 6:03 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Yeah, I always think I before E. Except after C, of course. Or when it sounds like an A. Or sometimes when it is weird.

  85. 85 Sean Stott said at 12:46 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    My guess would be INTP

  86. 86 Avery Greene said at 12:47 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I definitely don’t think he’s a P.

  87. 87 ChaosOnion said at 3:18 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Chip is a Mastermind. Definitely INTJ or the E-equivalent.

  88. 88 Media Mike said at 5:52 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    INTJ? Gross.

    ESTJ here.

  89. 89 Avery Greene said at 6:00 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I’m an ENFP, so I drive everyone crazy. But since my wife is about to get certified mbti, I’ve been doing research most of the day figuring out how it works and how the dominant part affects the personality.

    BTW – I think N is more important than S, so at least we all have that in common.

  90. 90 botto said at 6:26 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    buts what’s his BMI?
    almost AR, but not quite.

  91. 91 MagsBirdieBaby said at 7:00 PM on July 23rd, 2015:


  92. 92 A_T_G said at 9:52 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I don’t know about INTJ, but I know Chip desires INTS.

  93. 93 jonathan g said at 10:18 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    How come no one is talking about Aaron Rodgers and all the missed passes he threw last year?

  94. 94 TypicalDouche said at 11:05 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Because he’s the best QB in the league so he can get away with that

  95. 95 Bert's Bells said at 3:28 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Dude misses almost 35% of his passes. Sucks.

  96. 96 TypicalDouche said at 3:31 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Yea man he is really bad. Only amateurs throw 38 TD passes to only 5 INTs.

  97. 97 A_T_G said at 6:01 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    (To bring it back to the point I think Jonathan g was making…)

    “One out of every three passes goes for zero yards? That is leaving a lot of meat on the bone.” says the scrub backup not realizing the size of the shoes he is attempting to fill, and validation follows from media heads with a personal ax to grind.

  98. 98 botto said at 2:11 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    because of all of the passes he made last year.

  99. 99 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:00 AM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I know Huff had his faults last year but he was a rookie who played like a rookie.

    He got stripped at the goal line, drop a high pass that turned into a pick and failed to make a ST that led to a TD(In a game we were completely outplayed and coached).

    He wasn’t the only played to eff up last year. I think he will bounce back now that he understands the game better. I’m more worried about Billy D than I am any one player

  100. 100 Ark87 said at 12:24 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    LT is an avid cowboys fan, And Emmit and an all-time Cowboy’s great. Both of them are obviously team-“the cowboys’ O-line is so good anyone can rush for 1800 yards if not more, the Cowboys are fine!”

  101. 101 EagleNebula said at 12:56 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Which is even more hilarious considering Smith ran behind a dominant OL and FB…

  102. 102 Ark87 said at 2:07 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    with a hall of fame QB and WR keeping defenses honest. Emmitt might be a bit salty

  103. 103 Avery Greene said at 2:08 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    FBs win superbowls confirmed. -Heath Evans

  104. 104 Jernst said at 2:03 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    One of, if not arguably, the best offensive line ever assembled. Along with a stacked supporting cast including 3 other Hall of Famers, and a stellar TE in Jay Novacek. And, yet, Emmitt never even sniffed 1845 yards. He should shut up.

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 3:22 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    “Eagles coaching staff has been beyond impressed with Ryan Mathews”-Shefty
    There is no reason to get upset At the blowhards running their mouth. they are doing us a favor!! I hope more people pile on to talk shit about Demarco..
    After Jerry Jones ran him into the ground so he had an excuse to devalue him and kick him to the curb, you know this proud competitor is going to be jacked up to stick it to Dallas an make them look stupid, if he wasn’t motivated enough, seems like everyone is taking shots at Murray this offseason. From envious donkey no name backüp Running back talking shit for no reason, which is classless considering I’m sure Demarco did a lot to help grow the backüp RB.. Now you got hall of fame RB’s diminishing this mans spectacular season? I LOVE IT! THANK YOU!!! Keep talking shit about our RB, keep pouring Gasoline on our workhorses Fire… You think he isnt hearing everyone already leaving hm for dead because Of the number of carries he got last year… Straight up Disrespectful to a RB who even Eagles fans respected the year he had last year while he was still a cowboy…. You do not, fuel the Fire of great proud playërs. These idiots are doing us a huge favor as far as I’m concerned, hopefully people keepimg talking ahit about Murray all the way up to the season..
    IF Proud Murray ISNT going to be Jacked up emough, you know who is really going to take exception to the shit being talked about Murray, The BOSS HOG, Jason Peters, Bane Johnson, and the modern day VIKING playing Center for us…. It’s bad enough Jason Peters has to hear about how great the Dallas OL is all the time, he hears people ripping our star RB, acting like he won’t be as good because he won’t be running with the Dallas Oll? THANK YOU!!! You think Jason Peters ISNT going to take notce? These idiots are going to have our Ol, and RBs foaming at the Mouth to run over everything in their path.
    You don’t give bulletin Board material in the NFL to great Players, it’s not every day you see a great player coming off a great year being disrespected like this by so many different people… THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU! If our RB and LT weren’t motivated enough, they probably can’t be any more motvated then the level the blowhards will get them to reach…. LOL at getting to play Dallas in week 2…. that game will Rival the ass whooping we handed out on thanksgiving… Hope Bradford attempts 17 passes week 2, while we put 52pts on the Board, 49 on the backs of our Rum game! Lol

    Can’t wait to watch what Vinny Curry will do to Romo in week 2… my Mans coming to Dominate this year…. My understanding is people are going to be blown away by how Curry two gaps and shuts down the run this year,,,my mans HUNGRY!!!
    Speaking of “Murray”. The future star starting PG of the 76ers, who isn’t going to be on our roster TIL after this season, our Future Star PGs last name also happens to be Murray,,,, remember that…

  106. 106 anon said at 5:52 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    The Eagles currently have seven running backs on their roster with this new addition: DeMarco Murray, Ryan Mathews, Darren Sproles, Matthew Tucker, Kenjon Barner, Raheem Mostert, and Monangai.

  107. 107 MagsBirdieBaby said at 6:58 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Isn’t the last guy a river over there in Pittsburgh? ;~)

  108. 108 Media Mike said at 6:59 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Sounds like a reason to cut Barner. Quack.

  109. 109 Avery Greene said at 6:09 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    LOL – in other RB news…

  110. 110 Ark87 said at 8:00 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    That is…well coincidentally I’ll be throwing Chip Kelly a party and I’m thinking the theme will be “hindsight”.

  111. 111 MagsBirdieBaby said at 7:08 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    I posted this on 24/7 but was so amuse I decided to post here as well.
    For all the worriers:

  112. 112 McNabbulousness said at 11:47 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    “bring out the gimp.”
    -greater philadelphia area pawn shop owner

  113. 113 BobSmith77 said at 8:54 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Before or after training camp?

  114. 114 myartz04 said at 7:22 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    So LeSean is throwing an all female private party in which the girls have to sign some form of confidentiality agreement AND they must send in a photo of themselvethemselves. I’m just really glad he’s gone.

  115. 115 SteveH said at 8:25 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    gross man. If you’re gonna use your celeb to mack on all the ladies at least try to be a little classy about it.

  116. 116 BobSmith77 said at 1:01 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    He wasn’t classy when he was out and about in Philly acting like and treating people poorly.

    That tipping incident at PYT and a few others was indicative of what kind of McCoy was when he was out in public.

  117. 117 Media Mike said at 4:46 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    The tipping incident is way worse than this dumb party.

  118. 118 xmbk said at 8:20 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    He got a flyer on that last season because he was still an Eagle fav. But that was classless.

  119. 119 Bert's Bells said at 11:33 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Turd Sandwich v. Giant Douche

  120. 120 TypicalDouche said at 4:23 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Who did you vote for? I personally went with turd sandwich.

  121. 121 xeynon said at 7:17 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    McCoy is a talent, but he is and always has been a first rate douche nozzle. I’m glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.

  122. 122 Ben said at 7:28 PM on July 23rd, 2015:

    Great read Tommy.
    Ahh the WR’s. Some so called experts like to believe that our WR corps have been depleted and how much of a difficult obstacle it will be to overcome the back to back losses of our #1 Djax in one season then our #1 Maclin in the next.
    I don’t see it that way, but I can agree that we allowed some pretty good players to either walk in FA, or just outright cut them.
    This is true but what those same experts fail to realize is that we have some pretty good talent, some unproven but talent nevertheless.
    I think Matthews is better than he’s given credit and I say he flat out wins the #1 WR role in this offense as he has earned the promotion IMO.
    I really like his size and speed and how tenacious of a receiver he has become at the pro level.
    If he gets hurt or needs to come out, I can see Austin as a capable back up.
    Moving on to #2 WR, I like Agholor to earn this spot and it won’t even be close. He could eventually supplant Matthews IMO, but not right away.
    I see Cooper as his back up.
    I actually think Huff will be our new slot WR as he is a perfect fit with his slashing speed and ability to break tackles.

    His back up will be GJ Kinne or Rasheed Bailey, because they both have a unique skill set best suited for the slot IMO.
    Anybody agree with my choices? Is it football yet?

    thing about Maclin that everybody used to say was he’s not a true #1.
    I think Agholor can and will be a true #1 in every sense of the word as he is a younger version of Maclin but he seems to have that killer instinct that kept Maclin from becoming a true #1.

    Maybe I am wrong, but since we are projecting, I am picking him as our true #1 who will be asked to line up everywhere but at the end of the day, I just think he has what it takes.
    If he gets injured, I can see Huff or Austin maybe replacing his position.
    Moving on to our #2 WR, I like

  123. 123 wee2424 said at 1:23 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Mathews will stay in slot as his main role, but will also move to outside to take advantage of matchup. I just think on the outside he doesn’t have the ideal separation which is why he will mainly stay in slot.

    Agholor overall is more talented and will quickly become the #1.

    I agree that Huff is more ideal for slot which is why in many formations when Mathews moves to outside Huff will come in slot. Huff will be more of an offensive weapon then defined slot or outside receiver. He will even be in backfield at times like he was last year. Was effective at it.

    Even with Austin’s age he will be starting outside opposite Agholor. He is more of a receiving threat then Cooper, and while he is not as good as a blocker he is effective and willing.

    Cooper will not be cut because he is the only WR on this team that has had more then 1 full year in this system. He has played ST before and his blocking will be handy on KR and PR.

    All WR will be moved all around the field. Huff as mentioned is versatile. Mathews best fit is slot but can play outside. Austin has played inside and outside. Agholor with his quickness and speed can play inside and outside.

  124. 124 TypicalDouche said at 4:22 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Cooper wont be cut this year because of the cap ramifications the Eagles would face, but an easy cut next year.
    What makes you say that Mathews cant play outside? He did it in college and was very successful at it.
    Agholor should be starting by midseason. Austin is definitely the surperior receiver over Cooper.

  125. 125 wee2424 said at 4:47 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    I never said Cooper would be cut. I pretty much said he will be on the team as a different role then starting wideout.

    I never said Mathews can’t play outside. I alluded to it multiple times that he will play outside in multiple packages to take advantage of matchups.

    However it’s pretty clear that Chip likes him in the slot, alot like Colston. What I said is that he doesn’t have ideal separation. Him being in the slot plays to his strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. These past OTAs Mathews once again took a large majority of his snaps in the slot.

    Agholor will be starting by day 1 on the outside. Part of the reason he is such a good pick is because he was arguably the most NFL ready WR coming out in the draft.

  126. 126 Bert's Bells said at 4:50 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cooper cut if he doesn’t outperform 5 other wide receivers.

    It’s not like Kelly is afraid to make a “controversial” move.

    Lurie might be a little unhappy, but the coach probably couldn’t care less as long as he gets the people he wants on the roster.

    Still, Cooper probably stic(n)ks around for another year.

  127. 127 FairOaks said at 1:11 AM on July 25th, 2015:

    There are no real cap ramifications for cutting Cooper. The rest of his signing bonus is on next year’s cap if he is cut now or after the season. His money is guaranteed this year — there is neither a cap penalty nor benefit if he’s cut now. The the only change would be more money spent on the player who replaces him (since we’d still have to pay Cooper), but that’s likely a minimum salary and we are nowhere near the cap. Still, I think 5 WRs would need to beat him out, and maybe even 6. I’m pretty sure four will, but less sure after that. Who knows, maybe he looks more like 2013 in preseason. It’s not impossible. But he’s going to have to earn a spot. (Next year he’s going to need to really earn it, since he’d need to be actually worth his salary rather than just better than UDFAs).

  128. 128 anon said at 12:06 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Any thoughts on the nicky sticks revisionism – he didn’t like the coaching, didn’t deal well with the pressure in philly, wanted out, etc.

  129. 129 BobSmith77 said at 12:57 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Just how much was Huff in Kelly’s ‘doghouse’ last year and was there any particular reasons mentioned why besides the on-field stuff?

  130. 130 ICDogg said at 11:06 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    I think he got a late start, was banged up somewhat.

  131. 131 xeynon said at 1:39 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Agree that the “Murray left yards on the field!” criticism is overblown (as is, FWIW, the “Foles left yards on the field!” criticism we’ve also heard of late). Every NFL skill player who played in a game last season “left yards on the field”. The game is so fast and chaotic that not even the most physically and mentally gifted players can process everything that happens on a given play and identify the decision that will result in the maximum gain 100% of the time. The best running backs fail to see holes develop and miss cutback lanes sometimes, the best quarterbacks take short gains or throw incomplete when they have a guy running wide open deep at times, the best receivers make bad decisions on option routes from time to time, etc. Even linemen can “leave yards on the field” when they peel off a block at the wrong time or go after the wrong defender at the second level. Most of these things are not visible from the perspective of a player on the field – you only realize that there was an opportunity you missed when you break down the film after the game.

    For me, there are plenty of legitimate concerns about Murray – he’s coming off a very heavy workload, he has a checkered injury history, there’s a good case to be made that running behind one of the best O-lines in football made him look better than he is last year, etc. But “he left yards on the field” is not one of them.

  132. 132 A_T_G said at 7:28 AM on July 24th, 2015:

    Well said.

  133. 133 ACViking said at 11:11 AM on July 24th, 2015:


    Well said, as well.

  134. 134 laeagle said at 4:39 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Best reply to a reply I’ve seen in a while.

  135. 135 botto said at 4:48 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    nice reply.
    well said

  136. 136 ICDogg said at 7:32 PM on July 24th, 2015:

  137. 137 GEAGLE said at 9:12 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    The,guy,was one of the leaders in broken tackles, he was practically unstoppable running on 3rd down, very good in the Goal line, I don’t even know to devalue what that dude did last year.. It’s not often as an Eagle fan That I really respect what a cowboy is doing, but during last season, before he ever became an eagle I respected the heck out of the,Season he was having. for the first time, he took the Cowboys on his back, so they can put old man Romo and his back of a 97yr old on the back burner…… Now it’s fair to question if that was just a product of his contract year (not uncommon)? But devaluing what that dude did on the field is silly..
    some rated our OL better in run blocking then the Dallas OL last year. if we weren’t better run blocking Line then Dallas, we probably weren’t Too far away, yet Shady ended up with some yards, but he certainly didn’t out play Murray last year….

    ITs fair to question injury history (although having Mathews and Sproles should help this), it’s fair to question the heavy work load, its fair to even question if it was just the product of a contract year,,, but I don’t think it’s right to disrespect what that dude did on the field last year….. Dez, Murray, and ODB Are probably Rivals PERFORMAMCES I respected the most in recent Division history…. Not every year do our rivals have playërs that have such a great season that I have to respect like ODB and Murray had last year…ridiculous to devalue that
    That certainly doesn’t mean we can automatically count on him having a season like that for us this year, I damn sure wouldn’t go there.. But can’t take away from the dude playing like a Beast protecting that team from Romo and protecting Romo from himself… He hurt his hand late in the year and played thru it in a game he didnt need to play….. Really tasteless of a young backüp punk like Joseph Randle who Im sure Class Act, hard working, studious Demarco tried to help along the way…. LITTLE Punk…. can’t wait til, Cox, Bennie and Kiko put a beating on that fool, along with our 2015 eagles secret weapon defending the Run, VINNY CURRY!!!!

  138. 138 Avery Greene said at 12:18 PM on July 24th, 2015:

  139. 139 Avery Greene said at 12:30 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    The first didn’t embed. Sorry.

  140. 140 ICDogg said at 1:07 PM on July 24th, 2015:

  141. 141 A_T_G said at 1:10 PM on July 24th, 2015:

  142. 142 Avery Greene said at 12:23 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Team statement from Bills about Lesean McCoy:

    “We have reached out to LeSean and informed him that players are not permitted to use team marks for personal use without prior permission from the team.”

  143. 143 EagleNebula said at 5:37 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    I am shocked the Bills were not fully endorsing their star running backs las vegas party that was open to only women…

  144. 144 ICDogg said at 12:28 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Story about Chip Kelly and his marriage in the 1990s that we didn’t know about before

  145. 145 ICDogg said at 12:30 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    A recent pic of his ex

  146. 146 Bert's Bells said at 2:04 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Dave Fipp’s sister?

  147. 147 CHRIS said at 2:07 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Confirmed, twins

  148. 148 Bert's Bells said at 3:04 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Shit, Dave Fipp in drag?

  149. 149 EagleNebula said at 5:38 PM on July 24th, 2015:

  150. 150 ACViking said at 1:18 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    The LA Rams and then Washington had an incredibly successful head coach in the late ’60s and early ’70s named George Allen. No one was more paranoid than that guy.

    He barred the media and fans from practice. Put up a tarp to block onlookers. He hired security people to stand on roof-tops surrounding the practice field — training camp, in-season at home and away — to look for possible spies.

    There’s not an edge Allen didn’t try to get. And his players love him, by the way, for his very public concealment of everything football.

    But Allen’s personal life was no secret.

    And no one gave a crap about it because it wasn’t a secret.


    Who gives a crap if Kelly was married. Who gives a crap if he has a girlfriend. Or not. Or who he hangs with.

    But Kelly’s piqued people’s interest by putting a wall around pretty much everything, most especially his personal life. So media folks — who need something to write about — have poked around.

    Ok. Secret’s out. It’s now yesterday’s news.

    We now return control of your television set to you until next week’s episode of “The Outer Limits.”

    A/k/a . . . what’s really happening behind the walls at Novacare?

    ‘Cause that’s really all that matters.


  151. 151 Bert's Bells said at 1:56 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    “Who gives a crap if Kelly was married. Who gives a crap if he has a girlfriend. Or not. Or who he hangs with.”

    ME! How else can I let him know that we’re meant to be BFFs? BFFs!

  152. 152 botto said at 3:01 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    obviously if you say its private, everyone now needs to know.
    he is the head coach of the eagles, its not like this is Cleveland or Minnesota.
    we need to know everything about you, especially if you don’t want us to know.
    the real problem is that Kelly is so interesting, we feel like we really do need to know more about him.

  153. 153 unhinged said at 3:29 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Ah yes. The Dick Nixon of the NFL. If I’m not mistaken old George and Tricky Dick were mutual admirers.

  154. 154 ACViking said at 4:03 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    They were, indeed.

    And also had a good deal in common psychologically.

    Only Geo. Allen didn’t have the IRS at his disposal.

  155. 155 SteveH said at 6:15 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly is stands out as a driven man in an industry of driven men.

    I can’t say I agree with all his moves but it does feel good to know that he is going to give everything he’s got to get us to the championship.

    Fingers crossed Bradford stays healthy.

  156. 156 daveH said at 2:41 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    trying to make it thru July without any comments

  157. 157 botto said at 2:56 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    you blew it

  158. 158 Ryan Rambo said at 4:11 PM on July 24th, 2015:

  159. 159 GEAGLE said at 8:53 PM on July 24th, 2015:

    WOW. Chip kelly being married years ago is “News”, Holy Shit we have reached an all time pathetic, what’s really sad is some media trash/Poor excuse for a man really took the time to research this LOL.THATS a classic. surprise to find out that the report didn’t come from that “limp noodle” Elliot Shorr PARKER,….. Like this is legit tabloid “news” Shameless.
    I’m not really sure WHY or How this is news…. Nor do Its remember Chip ever lying to us about this… Did Moesher ever ask him if he was ever married, and chip responded No? Did Les Bowan ever ask Chip if he was still a virgin?
    Was chip supposed to go out of his way,during football press conferences and say, “just to get out IT out there, I was married 20 years ago, FYI”… WTF?
    The best is if you hear the guy report it, he is reporting it like he just cracked the fucking Davinci Code… I thougjt I Saw it all, I’m blown away by this Pulitzer Prize winning investigative Journalism,,.just WOW