Detailed PS Game Review – PHI 40, BAL 17

Posted: August 29th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 114 Comments »

Another impressive outing by the Eagles. The starters moved the ball on offense and the defense had a pair of INTs that set up scoring drives. Special Teams again came up big. And no major injuries. All in all, a great outcome for the second preseason game.

More important than the score, I thought there were several players who played better than the previous game. Some guys are going to look rusty in the opener. That’s the first live game setting in quite a while. The second game is a big test. Most of the key players did well. There were some disappointing performances. That’s just the reality of life in the NFL. All 90 guys aren’t going to be impressive.

This was an odd game because of penalties. The Ravens had 17 for 139 yards. The Eagles had 7 for 65 yards. Baltimore was incredibly sloppy for most of the game. I did come away very impressed with their third string QB, Bryn Renner.

LB/DE Terrell Suggs had a very questionable hit on Sam Bradford. That has been discussed ad infinitum so I will skip that. I thought it was dirty, but it isn’t worth going into at length.

OFFENSE

MISC

* The Eagles tried a pitch play that looked new to me. Unfortunately ran that right into LB blitz so Murray was tackled for a loss.

* 476 yards, including 238 on the ground.

* Pace seemed to bother the Ravens defense.

Players

QB

BRADFORD – Good showing. Bradford had a couple of tests to pass. First, he had to show he could take a hit. It won’t matter how good he looks if he can’t get up from hits. Bradford took a shot from Suggs and then got really pounded by a DT on a pass play. Both hits got his attention, but Bradford kept on trucking. The other test was to show how well he could throw the ball. Bradford went 3-5-35. He didn’t make any great throws. He didn’t have any highlight moments.

But he did look like a good starting QB. He hit Sproles and Matthews on 3rd downs to move the chains and lead the offense to a TD. Hit Huff on a crossing route, but the ball was low on that one. Missed Riley Cooper with a deep ball. Led him and put it outside. Needed to keep that ball more to the inside.

Bradford ran the offense well. It moved quickly and aggressively. He spread the ball around to multiple targets. He threw short and deep, right and left. This wasn’t a case of a guy going out and covering the same three plays he mastered in practice.    

SANCHEZ – Much better than last week. The numbers were good, 14-20-118. Beyond that, Sanchez just looked better. Last week he didn’t make good throws. He was much better this week.

Quick pass to Murray for 12 yds.
Quick pass to Sproles.
Good tempo.
Hit Burton in the right flat.
Failed to see Barner come wide open on wheel route. Could have been long TD.
Sat in pocket and waited for Burton to come open. Got him the ball on 3rd/5.
Made good throw to Agholor on crossing route that Sanchez missed last week.
Had Maehl open for short TD and missed him. Ball was too fast/far out front.

The biggest issue for me is missing Barner on the wheel route. Sanchez missed open receivers downfield more than a few times last year. He really needs to show some progress in this area.

BARKLEY – Felt like he took a step back. Stats weren’t great, 6-14-86. Beyond that, he just didn’t seem all that sharp. Barkley was good in the opener. I hoped he would build on that. Instead, it seemed like the reverse. In his defense, Barkley was playing with the #3 offense this week. Last time out he was with the primary backups. Barkley didn’t have wide open receivers to work with. Passes were high. But all you had to do was look across the field and see Renner playing well with the Ravens #3’s. If you’re a good player, you should make those around you better.

Took a sack on ILB blitz.
Best early throw was quick pass to Mostert on the left side.
Made good throw on the move to WR right on the sideline. Ball was high, but WR got his hands on it. Dropped as he came to the ground. Looked like ball needed to be high.
Threw short pass to TE too hard. Ball deflected off TE’s hand and was almost picked off.
Threw good fade pass down the right side. WR went up for ball, but couldn’t hold on.
Best throw was a pass to Martino on a dig route.

TEBOW – Up and down showing. 2-5-13 as a passer. Kept the ball on zone read and ran for 26 yds. Lofted short pass to RB over the middle. Either failed to see open receivers or simply didn’t think he could get the ball to them. Had a wide open receiver in the back of the end zone. Didn’t throw to him. Kept the ball and tried to score. The offense did move at a better pace with him in the game this week. And Tebow did run well.

RB

MURRAY – First game as an Eagle. First carry was a run up the middle. Got 7 yds, but if he didn’t get tripped up when coming through the line, might have gone for an 84-yd TD. Hit the hole hard. 5 for 17 on the ground. Caught 1 pass for 14 yds. Good showing.

MATHEWS – Continues to shine. Lowered his head and got 1st down on 3rd/1. Ran for 14-yd TD. N-S runner who showed good speed and vision. 3 carries for 19 yds and a TD. Building some buzz.

SPROLES – Looked good. 2-10 on the ground, 2-15 in the air.

BARNER – 4-15 as a runner. 1-10 as a receiver. Really stood out as PR, but more on that later. Caught short pass on 3rd down. Moved the chains. Smooth catch. Didn’t stand out at RB, but looked solid. Making a strong case that the Eagles should keep 4 RBs.

MOSTERT – Another good game. 10-54 on the ground, 3-44 in the air. Shows speed, but also some RB skill. Nothing like Lorenzo Booker. First run went wide. Didn’t have much room, but still got 4 yds. Caught pass in the flat and got upfield for 9 quick yds. Had run up the middle for 12 and then went left for 7 yds. Showed good vision on the run to the outside. Pressed the hole, then bounced wide. Good block of LB out in space when Bailey caught ball on crossing route. Mostert got in LB’s way, but didn’t hit him from behind. Smart. Broke off 15-yard run in the mid-3rd. Started left, then cutback and went up the field. Lots of room. Wide open in the right flat on 3rd down. Caught easy pass and flew upfield for 26 yards. Ideal candidate for the practice squad.

MONANGAI – Good game. 10-87. Got better blocking this week and played better himself. Ran hard, downhill. Fumbled when running in the early 4th. Was tackled from behind and ball got knocked out. Showed more effort than talent, but put some good tape out there.

TE

CELEK – Blocked well. Great seal block on Mathews TD run. Came into the league as a pass catcher. Funny that he’s now thought of for being a blocker as much as he is a receiver.

ERTZ – DNP

BURTON- Tried to block LB on goal line run. Got thrown to the ground. Stayed between LB and the ball so was effective even though ugly. Had some other plays where he showed progress as a blocker. Had 2 catches for 15 yards. Has played well enough to be the #3 TE, but won’t push Celek or Ertz any time soon.

TOMLINSON – Tried to block rushing OLB. Too passive and player got by him. Able to flush the QB. Refs called rusher for hands to the face on that play. Still, should have been a better block attempt. Much quieter as a receiver this week, only going 1-3. Shows promise as a run blocker, but needs plenty of work.

TUKES – Looks good when running routes. Shows athleticism. Quicker off the ball this week.

GLEICHERT – Failed to stand out as a blocker.

WR

MATTHEWS – 2-20. Didn’t get hurt. A+ showing in my book.

COOPER – Hurt his thumb while run blocking so limited outing this week.

AGHOLOR – Another good performance, but still has issues to clean up. Extended up high to snag ball from Sanchez in the early 2nd Qtr. Took a good shot, but didn’t flinch. Next play was crossing route. Got pass, took a quick hit and then fought to score. Got down to the 5-yd line. Those were terrific plays. Failed to hold onto a ball as he hit the ground on sideline catch. Has to adjust to NFL rules. Looked very natural catching the ball. Extended for it easily. Had ball stolen away from him by CB, but there was a penalty on the play so Agholor got very lucky. Got to learn the lesson without having to pay the price. Has to hold the ball like his life depends on it until he tosses it back to the official. Sloppy mistakes, but you could still see his talent.

MAEHL- One catch for -1 yard. But did show good hands on the play.

HUFF – Caught his first pass of the preseason, a crossing route. Got 12 yds on the play. Might have done better if he didn’t have to reach down for the ball, which led to him juggling it as he tried to secure the catch. Blocked well on run plays. Also had a good block on quick pass to Sproles on his side. Gave Sproles room to get upfield.

AUSTIN – DNP

BAILEY – Another good game. Caught WR screen and then weaved through traffic for 9 yds. Nice play. On next snap he caught pass on crossing route. Got wide, then turned upfield. Got 17 yds on the play. Made sure not to go out of bounds until he was knocked out. Failed to catch pass on crossing route in the red zone. DB got a hand on the ball. Finished 4-37. Much better player than I anticipated.

AJIROTUTU – Not his best showing. Got some snaps with the 1’s. Bradford threw his way once. Ball was too high. Dropped a pass late in the 1st half. Double whammy in the early 3rd Qtr. Pushed off to get open, then dropped pass. Did draw the flag. Might challenge for a roster spot, but needs to play better as a receiver.

PRATT – Dropped pass along the sideline in the 3rd. Made good effort to haul in fade pass, also along right sideline, but couldn’t hold onto the ball.

OL

PETERS – Had some great blocks. Collapsed some DL with big down blocks. Just washed Suggs to the other side of the line on a pass block. Terrific block of LB on Mathews TD run. Terrific down block on Murray’s TD run. Looks like JP is a man on a mission right now. That is bad news for DL around the NFC East.

BARBRE – LG. Good game. Does a good job on run blocks. Bends his knees and engages the DL with good pad level. Gives him strength. Anchors well in pass pro. Has quietly had a good summer.

KELCE – C. Mis-communication between him and Barbre led to DT coming free and blowing up Bradford. Both guys seemed to think the other one was going to keep blocking the DT.

GARDNER – Solid showing, but still needs to improve. Biggest issue is that he plays too upright and that affects his strength. Gets off balance at times and DL can move him. Had a good moment on the opening drive. He and Kelce doubled a DT. Gardner then let go and hit the DE Johnson was blocking. Failed to block DT who was looping on a pass play. Guy got a small hit on Sanchez. Does a good job of getting to the 2nd level. Needs to be more consistent there. Had one very good block on opening play. Got out to LB and sealed him. Other times would get a hand on his target, but not control the defender.

JOHNSON – Quiet game.

TOBIN – LT2. Gave up sack to Dumervil. Came on up and under move. Good run block of DT on play that went to the outside. Very good job on 3rd/5. Got his hands on DE early and then was able to mirror him. Looked good in pass pro. Mixed in aggressive pass sets with more conventional ones. Used his hands to jolt rushers and keep them under control. Doesn’t have great feet, but gets into the right position. Really liked the way he mixes his pass sets. Looked very good at times when going after the rusher. “Gave up a sack” in the 4th Qtr. No one was open and Tebow held the ball for 6 seconds. Hard to really fault Tobin on that.

VANDY – LG2. Got pushed around more than you’d like. At his best coming off the ball on run plays. Holding call wiped out a short TD pass. Terrific combo block on 1st/GL run by Barner. Virtually whiffed on DT when the guy used a swim move. Terrific combo block on run up the middle in the early 3rd. Helped knock the NT to the ground, then got on ILB. Nice gain. Got knocked on his ass on 3rd Qtr pass play. Never good for OL to be staring at the sky during a play.

MOLK – C2. Not his best game. Failed to control NT on inside run. Only got 1 yd. Got pushed back in pass pro by Jernigan. Quick from snap to block. Good block to open running lane for Mostert in the early 3rd Qtr. Able to get to the 2nd level and block ILBs. Can really sustain when he is square and gets his hands cleanly on the defender.

MOFFITT – RG2. Real good combo block on run play. Got a big shot on the DT before going after the LB. Got walked back into Sanchez on pass play and that created incompletion. Had moments where he looked good. Anchored well in pass pro when he got his feet set and his hands cleanly on the rusher. Whiffed on picking up blitzing ILB. That led to sack. Was more rusty than I expected since it was his second game back. Needs to step it up if he is going to seriously challenge for a roster spot.

KELLY – RT2. Got driven back into Sanchez on 3rd down pass play. Poor block of LB on 1st/GL run by Barner. If Kelly gets a better block, Barner might score. Had some good moments. Can be an effective pass blocker at times. Good effort on run plays.

BOYKO – LT3. Woke up and played well this week. Good block of LB helped Monangai get good gain up the middle. Good effort as a pass blocker, but gets too high, then off balance. Can be pushed around. Looks athletic on some plays. I think LG is more natural position.

GRAF – RT3. Much better than last week. More aggressive. Played with confidence. Used his strength and physicality to block.

ANDREWS- C. Solid showing, but didn’t stand out.

WHEELER – RG2. Keeps his feet moving. Has some pop.

BUNCHE – RG3. Did a good job of blocking LBs. Anchors well in pass pro. Able to get movement in the run game. Good down block of DT on short TD run at end of the game. Has earned the praise he’s been getting.

COCCIA – LG3/4. Put LB on the ground on 4th Qtr run to his side.

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DEFENSE

MISC

* It feels like Bill Davis is doing more to cover than to come up with exotic blitzes.

* Communication on the back end has been good. You don’t see receivers running around wide open.

PLAYERS

DL

COX – Read screen pass perfectly and stayed with RB. Forced Flacco to dump the ball.

LOGAN – A bit more quiet this week. Stuffed RB right at the LOS on final play of 1st Qtr. Jumped over cut block to make that stop.

THORNTON – Got moved off the ball on some early run plays. Won the battle on the 3rd snap and the RB had nowhere to go. Just tossed RT out of his way and engulfed RB on play that came at him on 2nd drive. Drew holding call on run that came his way in the late 1st Qtr.

CURRY – Played both DL and LB. Helped to blow up 3rd/short run by driving blocker backward. Played OLB in 2nd Qtr. Got fooled on bootleg play, but did chase QB and force him to throw the ball away after initially buying fake. Generated a lot of pressure as LB. Used power and speed to give the LT fits. Very disruptive on passing plays.

BAIR – Opened at RDE. Played run well early on. Deflected 3rd down pass and then nearly picked it off as it fell to the ground.

ALLEN – NT. Quiet game. Used a good rip move to get some penetration on a pass play. Just missed sack on 4th down when QB was flushed. Allen was a step away when the QB got the ball out. It doesn’t seem like Allen has played as well this summer as he did last year.

HART – Opened at LDE. Shed RT, tackled RB on play that came at him. Beat the RG and got some pressure on a pass play. Disrupted a run play by beating block and getting penetration. Beat RG to the inside and got pressure late in the half. Came free on a stunt in the mid-3rd and helped to force an incompletion. Showing real signs of progress.

MIHALIK – Played in 2nd half. Lined up at DT on 3rd/13. Drove RG back and then hit the QB. Showed really good power on that play. Got off balance and fell down trying to rush the QB on another play. Never good to be on the ground. Uses his length to keep blockers off him so he can flow down the LOS. Hustled down the line to tackle RB on final play of the 3rd Qtr. Just missed making tackle on WR screen. Used athleticism to get out wide and dove for WR, but just missed him. Good hustle. For a DL, does a great job of finding the ball and pursuing. Outstanding awareness. Got driven off the line by double team on run to his side. Must get stronger. Has shown good potential.

RACITI – Played a lot of NT. Not natural in there, but will battle. Willing to do the dirty work. Good motor. Worked hard to get to the ball. Had a great play in the early 4th. Lined up as NT, but dropped into coverage. QB wanted TE, but Raciti was in the way. QB then threw to RB in the flat. Raciti hustled out wide and got in on the tackle. Jumped offside in the 4th. Shed the C and tackled RB as he tried to go by him. Got sack when he chased the QB out of bounds behind the line. Hustle play. Was credited with 5 tackles. Ideal practice squad candidate.

HILL – Played DE. Big frame. Looks the part of an Eagles 3-4 DE. Shows good awareness. Moves pretty well. Had a terrific play in the early 4th. Knocked RT back. Saw RB coming his way. Shed the block and then got RB down for minimal gain. Got to the inside of the RT and had a shot at another TFL, but play went to the other side. Wasn’t able to get his hands cleanly on the RB. Blew up 3rd/1 run with penetration. Created TFL. Will be interesting to see if the Eagles keep him for the preseason finale. I’d like to watch Hill play in that game to see if he’s worth developing or just faced some poor blocking from the Ravens.

OLB

BARWIN – Helped blow up 3rd/short run by driving the RT backward. Drove RT back on pass play, forced Flacco to run. Looks ready to me.

GRAHAM – Didn’t do anything great, but I continue to be amazed at how much better he looks at covering now than last year or certainly 2013. Different player. Not only is he effective, he looks almost natural out there at times. Davis has had Graham drop into coverage quite a bit this summer. Good. This is the time to work on that. Let him rush in September. Best moment came when he chased RB down from behind on play that went away from him. Showed terrific burst and only gave up a short gain.

SMITH – DNP

BRAMAN – Played in the 2nd half. Another solid showing. Used inside move effectively a few times. Still fast off the edge. Got TFL in early 4th when run blitz by ILB blew up a run play.

JONES – Played OLB early on in this game. Got a gift sack when the QB fell down. Veteran playing against backups so it is hard to judge some of what  he does. Jones could be an effective #3 OLB. Isn’t a guy you want starting on a regular basis. Moved to ILB in the 4th Qtr. Shot into the backfield on run play and created a TFL for Braman. Finished with 3 tackles.

D WATKINS – Got sack in 3rd. DL pushed pocked, Watkins used power to move his blocker back. Chased run play down from the backside. Added a TFL in the run game. Set the edge well on some run plays. Didn’t show special burst as rusher. Consistently took a good angle and used power to push the OT backward and toward the QB. Plays with good pad level. Reminds me a bit of Trent Cole with size, mannerisms and style of play. Unfortunately, he’s not nearly as talented.

McCULLUM – Mostly at ROLB. Got around LT and chased QB out of pocket and out of bounds in early 4th.

ILB

KENDRICKS – DNP

RYANS – DNP

ALONSO – DNP

ACHO – Started. Got in on 3rd/short stop by shooting upfield and hitting the RB. Read screen pass well and was right there to blow up the play, but Cox had already forced Flacco to dump the ball. Helped to break up 3rd Qtr pass for receiver on slant route. Aggravated a thumb injury while covering a KO and got waived. Liked him as a pass defender, but his run defense needed work. Wasn’t as physical against blockers as he needed to be.

HICKS – Started. Struggled vs the run early on. Got better quickly. Blitzed up the middle and got pressure on Flacco on the play where his deep ball was picked off. Pressure affected the accuracy of the throw and resulted in the INT. Tossed an OL to the ground while shedding a block in the late 1st Qtr. Perfect D on run play. Scraped to the outside, filled hole and stuffed RB for minimal gain. RB used good move on him on short pass in the late 3rd. Hicks was beaten, but chased the RB down. Good hustle. Credited with 3 tackles. Still an inconsistent player.

GOODE – #2 ILB. Up and down vs the run early on. Had chance for INT late in the half, but couldn’t hang on. Happened on 4th down so the Eagles got the ball anyway. Drew a holding call on 2-pt play when he blitzed up the middle.

SKINNER – #2 ILB. Led the team with 7 total tackles. Did a good job of trying to get into the passing lanes. Good coverage of TE on play-action pass. Bit on fake and let TE get behind him, but then recovered and made the tackle. Made good open field tackle of WR late in the game. Better in the passing game than I expected.

S

THURMOND – First INT in a game as an Eagle. Picked off deflected pass in the end zone on deep ball. Wasn’t in ideal coverage position as he trailed by a yard or so, but was right there to make the grab. Looked like he was maybe half a second slow in getting out of his backpedal. Had an awkwardly slow return, but it worked. Tried to watch him as a run defender. Thurmond isn’t going to sell out when taking on blockers, but especially not in the preseason. He does stay around the ball.

JENKINS – Made good open field tackle of Smith after short catch. Looks ready.

MARAGOS – Played some with the starting D in the late 1st Qtr. Had at least one impressive hit.

REYNOLDS – Got on the field in the 2nd Qtr. Came up quickly to help tackle TE after catch. Tackled WR after catch over the middle. Was aggressive, but not the most impressive tackle. Wrapped and then pulled the guy down. Ravens scored TD on WR screen to his side. There was pulling OL to deal with, but that’s the kind of play you want to see Reynolds make. Did a good job of lowering his head and getting in on tackle of RB on run up the middle in the mid-4th. Was involved in 4th Qtr TD pass. Came out wide to help Anthony cover WR. Guy went up high to make a terrific catch. Reynolds hit him when he came down, but the WR spun off that and into the end zone. Reynolds has to really unload on the WR or try to tackle him. Didn’t do either. Had chance to pick off deflected ball in the end zone late in the game but couldn’t hold on. Okay game, but didn’t stand out as much as you’d like.

COUPLIN – Finally got to see him in action. Up and down game. Played in the 2nd half. Came down quickly to hit RB in the flat after a short catch. Got a good shot on RB after catch/run over the middle in the late 3rd. Whiffed on RB who got loose in the middle of the field. Couplin dove at him, but missed. Aggressively took on TEs when they tried to block him. Overran run play to the outside and let RB cut inside for a few extra yards. Made clean tackle of the RB on the next play. Failed to catch potential INT that came his way. Got TFL on 3rd/1 run when DL blew up the play. Couplin flew in to make the stop. Good motor. Can hit. Needs to clean up his tackling. Looks the part of an NFL Safety.

PROSINSKI – DNP

CB

MAXWELL – Picked off overthrow by Flacco on 2nd drive. Good return down to the 28. Showed good awareness to see the ball and then made a nice hands catch. Active eyes. Gave up 1st down catch/run on 3rd down play because he got picked and WR got a bit of separation. Offense used bunch set to create this situation.

CAROLL – Great coverage on the deep ball that was picked off. Was in the WR’s hip pocket and managed to look up and locate the ball. Got his arm up and deflected it, luckily to Thurmond.

WATKINS – Outside in #2 D. Good press coverage on 3rd down pass. All over his receiver. Did a nice job on 2nd Qtr pass play. Was off due to stack alignment. Let his receiver come upfield, then jumped the route. Ball was thrown that way, but off target. Watkins was in position to deflect the ball if it was on target. Let WR catch the ball in the late 2nd, then drove on him and made the tackle. Got there just after the ball. Had tight coverage on WR on 3rd/4 throw. QB put the ball out of bounds because Watkins was to the inside and right there on the receiver. QB threw high to his side late in the half and Watkins went up high to make sure the WR couldn’t make the catch. Missed tackle of RB late in 3rd Qtr. Did a good job of getting off his block and getting to the runner. Just failed to get him down. Barely slowed the guy down. Made good tackle of WR on crossing route in the 4th Qtr. Came up aggressively. Very please with his cover skills, but his tackling needs serious work.

ROWE – Played both outside and in the slot. Played some slot early on. Effective when he got his hands on the receiver. Strong night of press coverage. Played Nickel in the 3rd Qtr. WR used double move to get separation. Beaten by slot receiver on 3rd down late in the 3rd. Just a bit slow to react to quick cut to the inside. Did chase him down and make the tackle. Bit fake on run play and left his side wide open for big gain by the RB who did get the ball. Better on the outside than in the slot.

BIGGERS – Slot in #2 Nickel D. Gave up completion in the late 2nd Qtr. Hd good coverage on the play, but never looked back or saw the ball. Looked good in the slot. Not overly physical, but deceptively tough. Comfortable playing in traffic. Effective tackler.

RICE – Played outside in the 3rd Qtr. Gave up big catch out of the slot late in the game. Showed enough talent and potential to make you think he’s worth developing. Good size. Runs well. Looks smart. Needs coaching and experience.

EVANS – Drew penalty when he dove into WR who was on the ground. Wasn’t dirty, but just not smart.

ANTHONY – Gave up TD late in game. Was in very good position. Went up for the ball, but just missed it. Good throw, catch.

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ST’s

JONES – 2 punts. 48.5 average. But one was a touchback.

PARKEY – Better this week. 2 of 3 on FGs, but miss came from 55 at the end of the half.

SMITH – Eagles let him kick some. 2 of 2 on FGs, but were knuckleballs.

– MISC –

KOR – Mostly touchbacks. Barner was 1-16 as KOR.

PR – Barner had another TD. This one was 68 yards. Had good blocking, but showed good vision and good speed as well. Not just luck.

* Ajirotutu was first one down when covering punt, but couldn’t keep it out of end zone.

GAMEBOOK

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114 Comments on “Detailed PS Game Review – PHI 40, BAL 17”

  1. 1 BlindChow said at 2:32 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Of the four times I saw Bradley Fletcher targeted tonight, one pass was uncatchable, one was dropped, and two were completions for first down.

    Kurt Coleman, on the other hand, had a nice interception of Brady.

  2. 2 bentheimmigrant said at 6:08 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Coleman. 7th round pick with marginal athleticism who has kept his NFL dreams alive with pure effort.

  3. 3 Crus57 said at 9:40 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Plus he had that 3 INT game vs Washington when Rex Grossman was their QB

  4. 4 ICDogg said at 11:07 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Thought it was 4.

    Coleman, I always thought, unfairly became a whipping boy of the fans.

  5. 5 Sokhar20 said at 11:45 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    His harshest critic was Asomugha.

  6. 6 Mike Giongo said at 5:17 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Agreed. It wasn’t Coleman’s fault that he was forced into a starting role for the Eagles. The fact that Coleman was starting was instead a direct consequence of Reid’s attempts to fill the hole at safety with horrible, misguided draft picks such as Macho Harris, Nate Allen, and Jaiquawn Jarrett. If even just one of those three panned out, then Coleman probably would not have been any more than a special teamer when he was in Philly.

  7. 7 CrackSammich said at 11:43 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    My friends laugh at me all the time for being a Coleman fan. He’s the Little Safety that Could.

    No lie, if I had found his jersey at Marshall’s, I’d wear that sucker with pride. I think his parents are probably the sole owners of those guys, though.

  8. 8 MattE said at 8:22 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    That’s a good night for Fletcher.

  9. 9 P_P_K said at 10:09 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I can laugh now that he’s not an Eagle.

  10. 10 ICDogg said at 2:48 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I see him penciled in on some mock 53 man rosters, but am not at all convinced that Ajirotutu has done enough to make the team.

    A few weeks ago there was a big to-do about how Lane Johnson and Moffitt went to some sort of training with Jay Glazer that was going to turn them into killing machines, or whatever. So far I haven’t seen any signs of that.

  11. 11 iceberg584 said at 10:50 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    “Killing machines”…That gave me a good laugh..

  12. 12 ICDogg said at 11:06 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I forgot what they said, exactly. “Warriors”, probably.

  13. 13 GEAGLE said at 12:19 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I understand why someone would feel that way, but Tutu wasn’t really brought here for what he brings as a WR.. Signing Tutu is like signing Maragos or Braman… You wouldn’t say that Braman isn’t going to make THe roster because he hasn’t shown enough at OLB or that Maragos wouldn’t make the roster because he hasn’t shown enough at safety, so I feel that it’s a mistake to put much stock into his lack of production at WR so far in the preseason..
    ..
    We had an elite special teams and adding Tutu is like adding another pro bowl caliber ST player to that unit, which is important because lost some really big ST contributors in Casey and Brad Smith..
    ..
    I’d be pretty shocked if Tutu didn’t make this roster.., I assume he is a lock, but we shall find out soon enough

  14. 14 anon said at 12:48 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Yeah but that was when we had no safety depth (still don’t) and no OLB depth (still don’t). I understand Kelly’s mantra about playing teams if you aren’t starting and that’s why our teams is so great, but damn gotta keep people like sheed, who could be a stud in a few years over guys like Austin / Tutu.

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 2:21 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    OLB will be just fine, Im much more concerned with Safety depth…
    ..
    Let’s Pretend Curry will never be able to play OLB for us (which I don’t believe to be the case), on 3rd down we go to 4 man lines and our OLBs transform into 4-3 DEs, and NO ONE can question whether Curry can play 4-3 DE… So on 3rd down, we have plenty of OLB depth, heck even Cox can easily slide over and look like Reggie White playing 4-3 DE..
    ..
    So that really means we need to find OLB depth for 1st and 2nd down… Curry will do just fine setting the edge playing the run once he gets comfortable, and we know that at the very least Marcus Smith could be trusted to drop into coverage… Brad Jones has NFL experience at the position and he would be playing behind a dominat DL which helps..
    ..
    When we start this season OLB depth will be a question, and most people assumed e need to add to the OLB room this summer… but a Kid like Marcus is still growing, he should be a better player in November then he is in Stember. as the year goes by hopefully we can count on him more and more and increase his role as the year goes by.. Same thing with Curry who is starting this transition. As games pass he gains experiwnce, gets more comfortable and his OLB play should improve… While we question OLB depth today, I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of this season we find out that we actually have more OLB depth then we had last year. . Today fans say we need to add an OLB next offseason.. But if MS2 continues to grow, Curry gets extended and grows into the OLB rotation, with BG, BARWIN and Braman at ST, we might not have room for any new OLBs… What we view as lack of depth Today could be a strength by November after Marcus and VInny get 8 games under their belt, and Brad Jones NFL experience gives us a decent safety net while we wait for those two to grow into their roles…
    ..
    Two months from now, we could be better off at OLB THen we were last year with Trent, BG and BARWIN….. I believe in My man V-dot and Maaaaaarcus Daaaaaaaarling…

  16. 16 Greg Richards said at 2:31 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Bailey has looked pretty good against reserves but I doubt he has the speed and athletic ability to excel against starters. Nice PS candidate but I understand going with the superior STs player. To me it’s more of a question if you keep Ajirotutu as a 6th WR or keep an extra player at another position.

  17. 17 GEAGLE said at 3:47 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Doubt Tomilson as a #4 TE, Mostert as a #5 RB or whoever you would prefer to keep will
    Contribute more to our success this year then Tutu who will actually contribute on ST… And since We can probably get a kid like Tomilson, possibly Mostert and Bailey on our Practve squad, why would we keep any of them when they won’t contribute this year as much as Tutu does on ST this year…
    ..
    If Tutu ended up getting hurt, we would probably see Chip keep friggin Jeff Maehl so adding Tutu to our ST isn’t causing us to lose talent at other positions… We literally have 5 WRs that Can all play in an NFL game this year, and people think Chip won’t keep a ST stud as the 6th? We’ll see about that

  18. 18 Jernst said at 12:55 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I totally get that Ajirotutu was brought here as another special teams demon but at some point you have to ask yourself how many roster spots are you gonna dedicate to pure special teams aces. I’m seeing a lot of mock 53s with us keeping Maragos, Braman, Prosinski, Ajirotutu, Jones and Burton. That’s a lot of special teams aces. And, to accommodate them were leaving people like Reynolds and Couplin off the roster at a spot were dangerously thin at. If Thurmond gets injured (which historically happens for half of every year he’s been in the league) were stuck starting Maragos or Prosinski. I’d just like to see us invest in players that are good special teamers and offer something positive in the form of back ups too. Ajirotutu offers nothing as a WR. He makes tackles on special teams in a unit that already has 5 guys on the roster solely dedicated to that role. Seems like overkill to me. Plus what’s the drop off on ST from Ajirotutu to Reynolds? Is it so big that you’d get rid of a potential back up safety just to accommodate his spot on the roster? I say no.

  19. 19 GEAGLE said at 1:58 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    If you want to continue to enjoy the best ST unit I probably have ever seen, then can’t complai When chip puts more emphasis in ST then typical coaches DO when it’s time to select our roster…we reached this level of Special Teams by prioritizing SPECIAL TEAMS play in our back ups… When Chip says there are 3 ways for backups to make the Eagles, Special Teams, Special Teams, Special teams, unlike most coaches, it’s NOT lip service..
    ,,
    And it’s tough for me to argue with Chip in this case,… What are we talking about here, the #6 WR on our roster? Doubt the #6 WRs league wide have much bearing on their teams offense… If the #6 WR is going to make minimal contributions to the offense, hard to argue with Chip choosing to keep a ST beast instead…. After all, that’s EXACTLY how we reached this level of Special teams, we reached this level by going with backüp safeties like Maragos and Prosinski who made the Team because of ST play, NOT their Safety ability..
    ..
    I doubt one of the other WRs would make a bigger impact on the 2015 Eagles as a #6 Wr, then Tutu will make on Special Teams, and since I have enjoyed this special teams unit so much, I can’t complain when Chip continues to prioritize ST play over everything else when it’s time to choose our backups…

    Think I give a shit if we were to cut Tutu? I couldn’t care less who the #6 WR is, but I’d be surprised if Tutu didn’t make this roster… And i really don’t see how I could complain about Chip keeping Tutu, when all the WR’s we could keep instead of Tutu we can have on our Practice Squad and see if they can make the team next summer…. No one is going to poach Baily or GJ Kinney if we keep Tutu…. And if someone steals Maehl or Pratt away, somehow, “my heart will go on” like Celine Dion..
    ..
    Making decisions like Keeping Tutu is EXaCTLY how we got to this point of Elite ST play that everyone enjoys and raves about on Sunday’s… I’d be pretty damn shocked if chip cut one of the best ST players on his 70 something man roster

  20. 20 Jernst said at 8:44 AM on August 30th, 2015:

    Jesus dude…I’m not talking about keeping a different 6th WR over Tutu. I get that he offers significantly more for STs than any of the other bottom of the roster guys at wideout. I’m talking about all the mock 53s that have us keeping Tutu and going with only 4 safeties, as in Maragos and Prosinski are the only back ups. All I was saying is that if the question comes down to having no adequate backups at safety or cut Tutu, I’d rather have Reynolds than tutu. I’d rather keep a promising CB than tutu. If you can keep Tutu and not be forced to go light at CB and safety, two spots were thin at, great. But, I think if one (just one) of our 7 dedicated special teams aces needs to be cut to ensure we have adequate depth at a position were thin at, then it’s probably Tutu who has done nothing of not at WR or special teams this summer.

  21. 21 Jernst said at 12:47 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Agree with both statements. If it comes down to keeping Ajirotutu or Reynolds I’m going with Reynolds.

  22. 22 GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Think Tutu is a lock..
    ..
    And the #5 safety comes down to Reynolds vs Couplin, right now I assume Reynolds will win…. I see No reason why we NEED to carry 6 safeties and keep Reynolds AND Couplin;,, one is enough, and good chance we can get the other on our Practiace Squad..
    ..
    Today I have Reynolds(#5 Safety) AND Tutu(#6 WR) making the roster… At this point Retnolds will need to have a bad game for Couplin to be able to catch up.. if Reynolds keeps up his play while making sure he also continues to male ST plays, he should end up on this roster

    My biggest question is who the hell are we going to keep as OL depth? And how many will we keep? We only kept so many last year because all of them deserved to make the team.. This year we won’t keep more then 8 OL, 9 at the most… Problem is, I ONLY know of 6 Lineman I would be comfortable counting on in a game, the starters and Tobin as the top backup… OL is the position I struggle with the most when projecting the roster

  23. 23 ICDogg said at 2:51 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I imagine Mostert will want “nothing like Lorenzo Booker” as his epitaph.

  24. 24 Nelson ALGore said at 3:22 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    So Murray got tripped up and “Left some meat on the bone” lol

  25. 25 Fufina said at 7:23 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    The lack of Rogers is really frustrating since we will not get to see the Eagles against a real challenge in pre season and will be left with plenty of question marks going into the season proper which is frustrating for the fans and probably the coaching staff as well to an extent.

    There are 3 big questions in my opinion coming into the preseason and frustratingly these are still going to be up in the air going into the season:

    1) Bradford in real games. We know he can throw some of the sweetest looking passes i have ever seen, but with the Rams when pressure was on and in big games / situations he always came up small. We have no idea really yet how he will react to adversity yet – and probably wont until some time in the regular season.

    2) Revamped secondary. The front 7 is deep and talented stacked with playmakers – they can be really good. However the Secondary has been poor or worse the last 2 years giving up easy 3rd and long completions and long xplays. New coaching and personal have looked good so far but the thing the Eagles could not slow down the last 2 years were elite QB’s and offences, and without matching up with Rogers we have no idea really how good they can be.

    3) OLine and specifically Guard. We had holes at guard and huge question marks at depth at T and C. Barbre has looked like a solid starter and the Johnson/Kelce/Peters look like probowl tier guys. RG is still up in the air and no one is making a stong case to be quality back ups you would want to see lots of starts out of. This is probably the area i feel i have the best answers for – if everyone stays healthy they will be really good. If we have injuries there will be a LOT of #mathis #shouldofdraftedOLinthe3rd hot takes coming our way.

  26. 26 xmbk said at 7:33 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Bradford small = Sanchez big

  27. 27 Fufina said at 7:47 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Not really… Look i love the Bradford pick up, he has elite talent and upside and could be a top 5 QB if he ever puts it all together. But he has not so far at any point of his career and while the Rams were putrid at WR/OL and frankly TE/RB, he almost never elevated them, never put the team on his back and went out and dictated his will on a game.

    Bradford has yet to show a whole range of NFL skills, he does not have a great ‘feel’ for the game, struggles to pick up and ‘sense’ pressure, is often very conservative with the ball which good at times but not in the 4th quarter down 10 points. Some of all those things were play calling and supporting cast – but not all and we have no answers to those things.

    Sanchez has won games and put in the odd good performance, Bradford has little of any of that so far. Bradford has a lot more talent and upside but he still has a lot to prove as an NFL QB who can step up and play in the biggest games.

  28. 28 Explorer51 said at 11:50 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Bradford did win ROY, with 44 out of 50 votes, so there’s that; helped a putrid Rams team go from 1-15 to 7-9. And just a quirk, because the West was so bad that year they might have made the playoffs but lost to the Seahawks on a tie-breaker.

  29. 29 JoeBlow said at 12:03 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I remember that tie-breaker game with the Seahawks and Rams on week 17. It was Sunday night primetime and it was a bore-fest.

  30. 30 Michael Winter Cho said at 12:10 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Yeah, first overall picks who throw all of their team’s passes because of costing $13 million/year as a rookie, on teams that suck and are behind most of the time, tend to accumulate lots of yards. Doesn’t mean they’re playing well.

    Most yards gained, season, rookie: #1 Peyton Manning, #2 Chris Weinke, #3 Rick Mirer.

  31. 31 Explorer51 said at 1:52 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I have to think that the 44 voters took the context of how and who he played into account, in addition to the statistics; Offensive and Defensive ROY is a pretty legitimate award. As a point of reference, no Philadelphia Eagles rookie has ever won either.

    How much he was paid is kind of irrelevant to this; that was basically the going rate for #1 picks back then, previous to the current CBA.

  32. 32 Michael Winter Cho said at 2:57 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Great football minds like Peter King? When teams are paying someone that much $, they tend to play them a lot whether or not they’re any good.

  33. 33 JoeBlow said at 3:07 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    so you think the Rams stuck with Bradford because they were paying him a lot of money?

  34. 34 Explorer51 said at 3:43 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I’m not sure that Peter King is even involved in this (though he has said publicly he is a HOF voter) but the Associated Press is the officially recognized NFL awards organization; here’s the list of awards they designate every year:

    AP NFL Coach of the Year
    AP NFL Most Valuable Player
    AP NFL Offensive Player of the Year
    AP NFL Defensive Player of the Year
    AP NFL Offensive/Defensive Rookies of the Year
    AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year

    I guess we should just reject the past (and future) winners of all these awards because you don’t like Sam Bradford (or Peter King)?

    I respect your opinion though not your factual accuracy or your reasoning.

  35. 35 Michael Winter Cho said at 4:05 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I didn’t say that. Just like the pro bowl or any popularity contests, some sele tions will be questionable.

  36. 36 Explorer51 said at 6:13 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    He had 88% of the votes, he must have been really popular; or maybe he just had a really good rookie season and deserved the award?

  37. 37 anon said at 12:46 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    To see what Bradford was up against you gotta see how nicky stixx is performing now, it’s the offense, the OL, the receivers, having to play SEA, ARI and SF twice a year. They’re about to toss him out of STL already.

  38. 38 BlindChow said at 8:19 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I think Rogers being out can still be informative for us. The Eagles were smoked by plenty of backup quarterbacks the last couple years…

  39. 39 cliff-Y U on a knee, 99?! said at 8:36 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    one of those no win games if looking from national perspective. will 1st team defense be flying around hyped to play Hundley and mostly backup oline? will Davis even call a game that pressures GB if it’s that grouping? i mean, i might just play 3-3-5, practice that, dont think anyone needs to see DL do anything. not going to exotic blitz them in preseason game. just cant see much can be learned about front 7 that we dont already know, so i’d call coverages that puts max pressure on secondary. at least try and stress them, as much as you can w/ 3rd stringer.
    .
    Eagles offense is about Bradford looking sharper, spreading ball around, and staying healthy. like to see middle of line pass-pro better and open some holes again.

  40. 40 unhinged said at 9:57 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Your concerns regarding Bradford are questions that any unaccomplished QB would inspire on any team, any game. Is Bradford elite? Not to this point. Can he be? That appears to be your focus, and I think his performance will be mixed. I expect him to be more accurate and more on time than any QB we have had for awhile. If he protects the ball, and plays within himself, the offense can function and move down the field. He may not extend plays very well, but then P. Manning and Brady are not known for that either. I liken this to a contact hitter vs a long ball threat. Late in the game, a power hitter can inspire hope to eke out a victory, but a single from a reliable batter who hits for average might be more likely to occur, and could be more of a factor in the outcome. There should be games where SB looks like a surgeon dissecting mediocre defenses, and there will probably be games where there’s a defender in every receiver’s pocket, and completions are hard to come by. In Kelly’s QB friendly scheme, Bradford will have support from his team for maybe the first time as a pro. That won’t turn him into Joe Montana, but I think it helps to temper expectations that he has to take the team on his shoulders in order to be successful.

  41. 41 GEAGLE said at 11:45 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    There is NOTHING we could have done to not go into the season with those questions about Bradford.. Even if he played the first half of every preseason game, those same questions would remain…

    Secondary is showing a ton of growth… Forget the results, just the technique consistently being used is a big improvement from last year…Its becoming rare to see Eagle corners not turn around and look at the ball which was a big detriment last year,,, EJ BIGS didn’t turn around on that 20 yard catch he gave up on the left sideline during the play Curry rushed from OLB getting his hand up and forcing the QB to get rid of it, throw it up and let the big WR go get it… The play sticks out in my head because we have seen corners show so much improvement in this regard during the preseason and in training., the bad technique by BIGS was a nightmare flash back to Nrad Fletcher
    ..
    If our starting OL stays healthy, i have full confidence in stoutlands unit… With each week that passes Gardner and Barbre should get more comfortable and build more chemistry with their linemates.,,We just have to get past the first 4 games,,, by game 5, this OL should have the chemistry to be as good as any line in the game… going into the season with new starting guards is certainly easier when u have elite talent like Lane and JP next to them

  42. 42 Flying B-Dawk said at 8:43 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    The most impressive thing about this team so far is how organized disciplined they’ve looked compared to their opponents. They look a lot better coached this year than last.

  43. 43 Greg Richards said at 8:51 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Last year, the reserve offensive linemen were awesome in the preseason and for the most part sucked in the regular season. This year, for the most part they’ve sucked during the preseason. I hope the same preseason versus regular season reversal holds this year. Actually, I hope the reserve offensive linemen never have to play except for STs.

  44. 44 GEAGLE said at 11:26 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    I don’t think that has anything to do with the level of our backups..
    ..
    When you watched our backup OL dominate last years preseason they played together as a unit all summer..
    ..
    When you later watched a bunch of injuries pile up, these kids were thrust into game action, and they lacked chemistry with the starters they were lining up next to… To make matters worse, the injuries never stopped so backups had to come into the game and they never got a 3-4 game stretch worth of continuity lining up next to the same players…,, you can have great Lineman on the bench but if they haven’t gelled with the man lining up next to them, they won’t be able to perform at their full potential..

    Impossible to see what your backups are really capable if every other week they find themselves lined up next to a different player.. And if that’s not bad enough, backups were having to move around and play different spots with the starters… Tobin played RG AND LG…. If you put backups into a situation were they don’t have chemistry with the guys lining up next to them, no way they can play to their full potential…

    If we do have to call on a backup or two to play this year, hopefully they get to step into a starting line where they will line up next to the same guys each week so that as the chemistry grows, so does the backups performance.. We should be able to overcome 1 or 2 injuries to the OL, but if we are going to have to play musical chairs with the OL every week like last year, we aren’t going to see thes kids play to their full ability..
    ..
    We talk about playing together, chemistry, continuity… It’s CRUCIAL when it comes to an offensive line even more so then many other positions… Hopefully if we have to call on a backup this year, we will be able to put him in a much more stable situation where he will play next to the same guys each week
    ..
    its pretty amazing winning 10 games when we had such a dysfunctional mess of an OL situation last year.,. Let Garner play 1 spot, lining up next to the same Center and The same tackle, and I’m sure we will see a better player then we saw last year, who will also grow as he gets more and more comfortable working with the guys on either side of him….

  45. 45 CrackSammich said at 11:44 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Last year’s reserves are this year’s starters. That’s why our current reserves don’t look as good.

  46. 46 anon said at 12:44 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    That’s b/c our two decent reserve guys are starting now. Except for Molk the rest of those guys are extra scrubs.

  47. 47 E.A.G.L.E.S said at 9:30 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Can’t wait for tonights game! I’ll be interested in watching our corners, especially Rowe.

  48. 48 Mark F said at 9:34 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Man, it sure feels good to have DBs with a brain that don’t always fall for the okey-doke…

  49. 49 GEAGLE said at 11:12 AM on August 29th, 2015:

    Watched Taylor Harts snaps last night… Definitely heading in the right direction… Even if fans don’t see him stand out making a bunch of plays yet, if he is two gapping well and allowing LBs to make plays, he is doing his job..either way Hart is a lock to make the roster, chip didn’t drafthim to give up on him before his second season which is crazy talk..

    Curry sure was disruptive as a pass rusher from the OLB spot.. If Tolzien runs some bootlegs tonight, I’d like to see V-dot recognize them and defend it better

    Sheeeed Bailey really is impressing me… Stick that kid on the practice squad for a year, and next summer he could very well make this roster. I like the kid.. After this season, we get rid of Coop and Austin and with Pope going into his 3rd season as the leader of our WRs, we should be able to take on some more youth at WR next year…., this kid needs to be on our practice squad, really curious to see what he looks like next summer after a year of practicing with the Pros..

    tutu, I don’t even bother looking at as a WR, because I assume his beastly special team ability is the reason he is in Philly… I’d be really surprised if he didn’t make this roster ..
    ..
    I like our young Caveman TE tomilson, long term, he may be able to develop into Celeks eventual replacement but his blocking Technique needs a lot of work.. Tomilson should be following Celek around 24-7… Hopefully Tomilson makes the practice squad with sheede

  50. 50 GEAGLE said at 12:11 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    While we could worry over lack of OL depth, what top OL DOESNT have to worry about a lack of depth?
    ..
    The Packers have one of the better OL, but their local reporters have pointed out how they are going to have a problem if any of their starting Lineman get Hurt… I’d bet Tobin is more competent then any backup Olineman the Packers have..
    ..
    The Cowboys have Doug Free and Ronald Leary who both have been banged up and missed games in the past.. Doug Free was terrible like 2-3 years ago but he had a rebirth of sorts…free got hurt again last year having to miss time, Leary also missed some time.. Both players are quality Rum Blockers but thei aren’t elite Pass blockers, I’ll take Barwin against Free all day, and Leary will get tossed if he tries to stop Cox… Cowboys do have Lael Collins, so like us. They have 1 backup that they can count on..
    ..
    Steelers were excited about their OL, which is now down the toilet with an injury to their starting center..
    ..
    Big discrepancy in OL play In our Division,,, Eagles and Cowboys have two of the best OL in the game, Skins and Giants have a complete mess at OL..

  51. 51 GEAGLE said at 12:13 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Sad that the skins won’t play RG3 tonight ;(
    .
    I was looking forward to that train wreck. Seeing r the skins QB get beaten into a pulp each time he takes the field gives me great joy…

  52. 52 Kit but, SUPLEX! said at 12:25 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I have to agree that there is little better than seeing him get rag dolled by some 300 pounder.

  53. 53 GEAGLE said at 12:29 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Lol my favorite part is seeing him laying on the field, discombobulated and none of his team mates bother helping him up..

    If Bradford got sacked we would have Jason Peters and every player rush over to help him up, dust Bradford off, make sure he is ok….. How much longer are veterans going to waste their prime on this mess of QB situation in DC? RG3 is going to end up costing the skins a decade of terrible football before they can fix this mess

  54. 54 RC5000 said at 12:21 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Talk on ESPN is RG3 is done in Washington. Cousins will start week 1 reportedly per Diane Russini. Sounds like he’s on block.

  55. 55 GEAGLE said at 12:24 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Doubt it…
    ..
    If they really wanted to end the RG3 era, wouldn’t playing him tonight giving him more chances to fail be the best way to go about justifying terminating the RG3 era? Doubt their silly owner would sign off on that

  56. 56 RC5000 said at 12:33 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Although they aren’t permitted to play him tonight. The theory on getting rid of him is he’s a cancer.

  57. 57 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 12:34 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    An expensive cancer…

  58. 58 Bert's Bells said at 1:17 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Yeah, well, cancer….

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 1:37 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I would actually be very impressed if that Owner grows the balls to allow the GM to pull the plug on the RGknee era, but I doubt Daniel Snyder has the Coljones to go thru with it… WTF did they pick up the option on his contract if they were going to pull the plug before the regular season..
    ..
    I’m sure the players, coach, GM want RG3 gone, but I’m counting on good oL Dan Snyder to screw it up, and keep them from doing whats best for the franchise,,,

  60. 60 RC5000 said at 2:00 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Haha at least they are way worse off than us even though Bradford has to prove he can be durable.

    Who says Redskins make sense? That’s the root of it. Why do they do anything they do and what difference does the next two years matter for them either way?

  61. 61 GEAGLE said at 2:27 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I hear you…. When it’s all said and done. RG3 will have cost them a Decade… Figure the years they waste with him until they grow the balls to cut their losses, then it will take at least 2-3 years for them to find a true franchise QB, then a year or two to groom him… By then a Decade will have past, gone down th drain because of the decisipn to trade their future for this mutt that can’t read defenses or go thru his projections …
    ..
    LOL what a Significant Discepency between Luck and Robert Griffin

  62. 62 JoeBlow said at 12:39 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    haven’t heard that he’s on the block, don’t think anybody is insane enough to trade for him, just wait until he is released. But from what i’ve heard and can tell, the coaches and his teammates are sick of him

  63. 63 GEAGLE said at 12:24 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Andy Reid’s offense looked Potent last night… The only thing they are really missing is an elite offensive line..
    ..
    Jamaal Charles, Maclin, “Zeus” Kelce, Chris Conley,,,, quietly Amdy Reid has put together a quiet arsenal of weapons….. If he builds a top OL he could make some noise.,, of course no matter how good his team is, when he gets deep into January his limitations will show themselves and keep him from winning it all, but KC should be much more entertaining then past years…

  64. 64 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 12:58 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Lets see what Alexis Smith looks like when team start scheming

  65. 65 BlindChow said at 1:26 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    And against a team that isn’t a dumpster fire.

  66. 66 GEAGLE said at 1:30 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Alexis smith doesn’t change the fact that they have some nice weapons.. Maclin has really florished the last few years, Zeus KELCE is ready to breK through, and I like Jamaal,Charles more then shady… Have some nice weapons in place, but the roster still needs work at some key positions

  67. 67 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:07 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    That roster is good enough to win now… Its very talented. I just not a believer in Smith

  68. 68 Greg Richards said at 2:16 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Eagles vs. Chiefs in Super Bowl.

    Tie game, :01 on the clock, Chiefs line up for a 46-yard FG so Andy can finally win the big one. Maragos blocks it and Braman returns it for the game-winning score.

  69. 69 laeagle said at 2:21 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Come on, all you need to do is make sure there’s less than 4 minutes on the clock before giving Andy’s team the ball for the last time. He’ll let all the time wind down somehow and then call an “unexpected” pass that’s intercepted to seal the win.

  70. 70 GEAGLE said at 2:23 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Eagles vs, Steelers in the Super Bowl, Ultimate BATTLE OF PA. It’s GOING DOWN within the next 3 seasons….. book It!

  71. 71 Greg Richards said at 2:28 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    So, KC first victim, MIA next, then PIT?

  72. 72 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I would Replace Miami with Luck and Colts…. And In year 4, time
    For Chip Kelly to kill the Master, Chip vs Bellichek and Brady in their last Hurrah (who knows how much they will try to cheat when that window.almost shuts close?)

  73. 73 RobNE said at 4:11 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Don’t see Pitt getting back soon

  74. 74 GEAGLE said at 5:00 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    They have a nice 2-3 year window… their Offense is as potent as ANYONES and in the AFC, the top contenders DONT have elite defenses this year… colts are going to contend and their defense scares no one.. patriots defense is not as strong as it’s been. They have a solid front 7 but issues in the secondary….. The best defenses in AFC are on teams with limited offenses like Bills/Jets….. Ravens, Chargers, ok defenses, but nothing special
    ..
    So if the contenders DONT have great defenses. steelers offense should be able to score with anyone….so they have a window where they can win even tho their defense is weak…. Once Pouncy gets back, come DECEMBER, January, that Offense should put up a lot of points..

  75. 75 Bert's Bells said at 1:34 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Alex Smith has a lot of McNabb’s positive qualities (without the great arm). If he delivers the ball to his “playmakers” and protects it -which he does -they’ll do just fine.

    Maclin is a great addition for them.

  76. 76 Will said at 1:09 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Great read once again Tommy. But I do have a question for you, not regarding this article. What’s the deal with all these Eagles beat writers leaving in the past few months? I mean, I understand that new opportunities open up for people and all that but what’s the deal? In just the past few months we lost Shiel Kapadia (ESPN Seahawks), Geoff Mosher (No clue), and Bo Wulf (rumor is he’s getting into acting.) Is this mainly due to people not wanting to cover Chip Kelly’s Eagles? Mabey Chips practice rules pertaining to media coverage? Just curious if you have any inside info on what’s going on… PS – I love your website, but maybe it’s time to get a new logo with current players on it, just sayin.

  77. 77 Greg Richards said at 1:43 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I’d guess it has more due to with job security and the personal aspirations for the respective media members. Working for ESPN is better security than a local independent paper. While I realize no one mentioned is from the Philly.com umbrella, it seems like the Inquirer and Daily News have changed ownership/management every six months. How stable are the other news organizations. As far as Bo Wulf goes, I’d guess getting into PR/news coverage with the Eagles was a way for him to be behind the camera and not necessarily a goal in and of itself.

  78. 78 laeagle said at 2:20 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Wow, now Chip Kelly’s new-fangled ideas are responsible for chasing the media out of Philadelphia in droves?

    No disrespect, but seriously, how can you ask this question with a straight face?

  79. 79 GEAGLE said at 2:22 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    If we have any luck, Chip will chase that Donkey dweeb Eliot shithead PARKER away

  80. 80 Joe Minx said at 2:33 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    It’s been said that Mosher wanted more money from CSN. They told him to GTFO so he did.

  81. 81 JoeBlow said at 3:02 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    wow really? I’m kind of glad he’s gone. He seemed so out of touch with the team

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 3:35 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    LOL
    What???
    ..
    I didn’t even notice he was gone, that’s how much I thought of that noodle…ohhhhh that’s what Elliot shithead Parker is on CSN now, what a friggin Joke putting that hack on TV.. Moesher Leaves and they found the one idiot worse then Mosher, Elliot shithead and gave him a job? Someone at CSN needs to explain why they hate us eagles fans so much.. We deserve a little better then an irresponsible hack like Parker who is the biggest joke of our media, which is hard to do because idiots like Marcus Hayes and Smallwood haven’t set the bar very high at all..,

  83. 83 Bert's Bells said at 1:17 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Forget the DGR, everybody check this out:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2515134/

    http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNzY0MDk5NjE1MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjY2MjU1OQ@@._V1_SX214_AL_.jpg

    The Axeman Acteth!

  84. 84 P_P_K said at 1:43 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I checked out the Trailer. Looks powerful. Good for Trot for developing a post-football career.

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  86. 86 Joe Minx said at 2:36 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    So first thing I see when logging onto Roto is this:

    PHI: 2014 first-rounder Smith on roster bubble?

    The blurb then references that jackass ESP’s baseless drivel. I guess this is the new media crusade now, to try to convince everyone Smith isn’t going to make the team? lol

    What a bunch of f’ing clowns.

  87. 87 GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    It’s really only jackass Elliot shithead Parker who keeps saying this crap

  88. 88 GEAGLE said at 2:59 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Riddle me this….. What if our #3 QB isn’t even on the roster yet?
    ..
    I thought Barkleys command of the offense was better in game 1 then people have him credit with, but I also agree with Tom that he took a big step backwards in game two which is a shame, would have liked to see him build on game 1 when he was pretty sharp going thru all his progressions, knowing where to go with the ball.,.

    can’t rule out someone getting cut that might Interest chip more then continuing with Barkley or Tebow… I never thought EJ Manuel should be drafted before rounds 3 or 4, but chip might see more upside worth working with then continuing with Barkley or Tebow..
    ..
    Chip has to answer, does he think he can ever grow Barkley or Tebow into a backup that can be counted on to step in and keep the ship afloat if the starting QB needs to miss 5 or 6 weeks? If the answer is NO, then we should take a long shot flier on a different young QB… Clearly Barkley and Tebow aren’t good enough today..
    The question is how much more does chip think he can grow them? going to be interesting to see who ends up getting cut..
    ..
    I don’t really care who the #3 QB is, no matter who it is, I know that I pray to never see him play a regular season game for us.. All I ask is NO Rg3 and NO Johnny Jackass… I’ll take any other QB, just don’t give those two clowns the priveldge of wearing an Eagles jersey

  89. 89 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 3:01 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Id take this “new” Johnny over Tebow and Barkley in a heartbeat… Maybe even Sanchez

  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    FUCK NO!!!! GOD NO!! What a nightmare that would be.. I’d rather have 5 years of this Tebow circus then to see Johnny Clopboard in midnight green… I have welcomed the butt fumble, begrudgingly accepted Barkley, even asked to stomach Tebow…. But I draw the friggin line at Manziel and RG3 lol what a nightmare that would be

  91. 91 Bert's Bells said at 3:18 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    #3 QB is above all about practice.

    Would be surprising if #3 isn’t in camp.

    Of course, it’s not like Chip Kelly isn’t afraid of surprises.

  92. 92 GEAGLE said at 3:21 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Hoping the Giants have to end up
    Starting Landon Collins and Brandon Mereiweather at safety… Could you image what pope, Ertz, Sproles can do against two safeties like them? MISMATCH!!! How do you lose 4 safeties to season ending injuries in like two weeks?… On top of that they lost will Baetty to an injury, and his replacement Newhouse is banged up.. Their DL is nothing special and its best player lost at least 30% of his grip strength and that’s assuming he ONLY lost 1 finger…
    ..
    Skins also lost a handful of players to injury, 2-3 TEs, Gallette who was one of their best defenders..
    ..
    Cowboys lost Scandrick who was arguably their best Corner. Leary and Free get banged up and miss a few games each year.. Sean Lee hasn’t gotten injured yet but how long does that last? Adding to the injury equation is that they lose key players to character suspensions which is the same as an Injury.. LB Rolondo McClaim suspended for the first 4 games, Greg Hardy suspended for 4 games… I thought Durrant was their best LB last year, but didn’t he leave in free agency?… Stone cold BUST Morris Claiborne will be counted to start again, lol Tyler Patmon will replace Scandrick in the slot, Jordan Mathews is going to dominate this kid…, who are the Cowboys safeties anyway?

    We have done well with injuries under Chip so far, but if he can keep us one of the healthier teams this year after taking on so many players with injury histories I will be so impressed and excited if it turns out we consistently keep players healthier then most teams.. It would be a huge boost year in and year out

  93. 93 dandynator said at 3:28 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    If anyone wants to re-watch the first two preseason games and/or hardknocks I just came across this awesome site. Cheers

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  94. 94 A_T_G said at 4:13 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Well, I admit to being skeptical, but it looks like these actually work. My draft is tonight, so I will be looking for tonight’s game tomorrow. Nice find.

  95. 95 GEAGLE said at 3:29 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    4pm
    steelers vs Bills NFLN…
    ..
    Curious to see where Boykin stands in the “dress rehearsal”…
    ..
    steelers secondary looks like ours in 2012 so I’d be shocked if Boykin doesn’t end up starting for them.. But worst case scenario they keep him as a nickel which isn’t terrible because last year their nickel played 60% of snaps and that’s all we need him to play to get the 4th round pick from them

    LOL Must suck to have lost your starting center last week and the first week without him you run into the Buffalo Bills front 7..YIKES good luck with that Big Ben..
    .. Not sure what Rex Ryan’s is doing at QB… Why is he starting Manuel who so far has been the #3 in what should be the bills dress rehearsal game?

  96. 96 wee2424 said at 3:49 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I think Boykin is definitely one of their starters on the outside. They lost a CB for the season and they are reportedly very high on Boykin. Unlike our scheme he fits theirs to a T on the outside.

  97. 97 GEAGLE said at 4:01 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Agreed.. Even at full health he is still probably their best
    Corner…it’s a contract year, he is playing for an extension… Hopefully he stays healthy so we get our 4th rd pick

  98. 98 wee2424 said at 5:57 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    I think the contract year thing really only affects some players. Boykin comes across as a player that gives it his all no matter if it’s a contract year or he just got the big payday.

    I think the Stealers got a player the organization and fans are really going to appreciate for years to come. With his ball skills, speed, and athleticism he is going to make some splash plays for them.

    When he got traded I was reading alot of Steelers fans and just random teams fans comments on PFT. Most of the commenters had absolutely no idea how much of a quality player he is. They just saw slot CB coming from Philly, his height, and 4th round pick, and they were all ripping into him. They are going to learn pretty quick and be very appreciative of that trade.

  99. 99 anon said at 3:56 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Redskins signed LT Trent Williams to a five-year, $66 million extension. They got that deal done real quickly. Be interesting to see what that line looks like against starters. It’ll be damning if they hold up well and cousins puts up numbers. Why cassel isn’t starting i can’t understand.

  100. 100 GEAGLE said at 3:59 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    No idea why EJ Manuel is starting the #3 PS game when he is their 3rd string QB. Shouldn’t they give the starters the work today and let EJ play his little heart out in the 4th game with all the 3rd string players?

  101. 101 anon said at 4:48 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    each QB gets a start.

  102. 102 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:00 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    RG3 got the Willy Beamin treatment

  103. 103 GEAGLE said at 4:44 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    What does he expect? The clown still hasn’t learned to throw his OL under the bus to the media… Instead of owning his terrible performamces he always can’t help mentioning the poor blocking…. So stupid.. Everyone knows if your blocking sucks or not, you gain nothing from throwing your OL under the Bus…you will NEVER see a lineman stick up for him the way Peters did for FOles

  104. 104 RC5000 said at 4:25 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    top 5 qb prospect Carson Wentz north dakota st @ montana is on ESPN . he just ran for 19 yd TD

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 4:36 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Steelers secondary is pathetic.. How they łet Clay get such an easy 67 yard TD?
    ..
    Steelers are starting former Eagle Joe Kruger at DE… Don’t they also have Villanueva?

  106. 106 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:40 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Hes an OL now

  107. 107 GEAGLE said at 4:41 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    For the steelers right?
    ..
    Bamiro is a 2nd string OT for the Giants LOL

  108. 108 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:42 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    yep

  109. 109 GEAGLE said at 4:45 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Another injury and Bamiro will be a starter for the Giants….CANT WAIT! Hope Bamiro starts against Barwin…LOL

  110. 110 GEAGLE said at 4:37 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    VICK is in it QB with 8 min left in first Quarter and his first pass went 66 yards to Martevis bRyant,,, Ok VICK, happy for him as long as he isn’t an eagle
    ..
    Why did they take Big Ben out with 8 min left in 1st Quarter? He didn’t like the buffalo blitz too much with his backüp center in the game lol,
    ..

  111. 111 GEAGLE said at 4:53 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    Really starting to love our Choir boy culture.. Look at a team like the steelers, owners who historically have run a classy organization as any.. Steelers have a serious OFfense this year, they are legit contenders in the AFC.. A team that should be contending for a SB has their starting RB Bell suspended for the 1st two games, and Martevis BRyant suspended for their first 4 games.. They couldn’t help losing Pouncy to Injuries, but they could help having high Charecter guys who as key players don’t let their team down getting suspended…
    You can’t help getting injured… You can help gettng,suspended, Love that chip is trying to remove possibke suspensions from our equation..
    ..
    cowboys defense is Meh as is, they have to play the first 4 games without Rolondo McClain and Hardy, and tbis is a team that fancies themselves as “Contenders” this year.,
    ..
    love this “Choir Boy CULTURE”, hopefully Charecter suspensions/Drug Test suspensions have been completely removed from the Equation after Lane Łet the city down last year… Eliminate suspensions, keep our team healthier then most, amd THATS a big advantage to have each year… Love our Choir boys… Because on Sunday for 60 minutes, there’s nothing “choir boy” about Peters, Kiko, Kelce, Cox, Curry and the bird Gang…

  112. 112 wee2424 said at 5:45 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    They also have to play a whole season without Scandrick. Granted that is injury not suspension in which you were speaking of, but that is a serious blow to them.

    Claiborne is garbage. I think Jones will be a good CB for them in the future but if he is going to start for them he is definitely going to have some real Rocky moments.

    Anyone know how Jones has looked for them in TC and pre season so far? Haven’t heard much. Gregory looks alot better then I thought he would. Anyone know how Collins is doing for them as well?

  113. 113 GEAGLE said at 5:08 PM on August 29th, 2015:

    wow… Boykin pissed away the easiest pick 6 he could have ever had

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