Bad Day
Posted: November 15th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 740 Comments »Brutal loss.
The Eagles had everything going right. And then they missed a FG. The rest of the game was a slopfest.
Ugh.
This drops the team back to 4-5, in a tie with the Skins. Sam Bradford is hurt, but we don’t know how badly. Ryan Mathews has a concussion. And Mark Sanchez still likes to throw killer INTs.
Great 1st quarter, but terrible after that.
Crappy, crappy, crappy day. So much at stake and the Eagles blew it. They’re right back to scrambling for their playoff lives for the next month, if not the rest of the season.
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This is going to be a long week. Please keep things civil in the comments section. We’re all a bit on edge. No reason to be over the top.
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If you want it civil I would suggest you ban the troll, Snatchmaster, longding, Eaglesfanqq, etc.
Or we could just ignore the trolls…
Why should we ignore them if they dont go away and its fairly easy to block them. We dont need that crap here. You know?
wait, we have trolls? when did this happen? i guess i haven’t been on the site much lately
serious question, was not trying to troll u mitchell
The names are in the original comment. He keeps morphing like some sick human/computer virus. Pretty sure its skynet.
that’s shitty
and are you including GEAGLE in this as well?
snatchmaster is a shitty troll. shitty as in not making me mad and/or frustrating. wish he would show a little pride in his work. who wastes their time being a shitty, bad at your trolling, troll?
Josh Huff played pretty well today. Best game as a pro imo.
yeah should have targeted him more today
Was he open enough?
idk have to see the film reviews done by the eagles blogs
This was sad… I was almost feeling bad for Miami in the first quarter. But then, the Eagles found a way…
I don’t see how you can blame that INT on Sanchez unless your logic is he should have known Miles Austin sucks and would let the ball sail right past him.
Miles Austin was a big letdown today. The TD catch was not that difficult to keep the second foot in bounds.
Exactly…
Agreed. Not the best decision by Sanchez, but not one that should have resulted in an int.
by the same logic he should have thrown it to j matthews and it was j matthews fault for getting blown up.
situational awareness: don’t throw the ball into a situation where your best receiver could have his season ended by a hit.
situational awareness: don’t throw the ball to your shittiest WR that is also triple covered.
Sanchez’s ball does tend to float and stay in the air a long time. In previous games, I thought Bradford also threw the ball to his receivers in positions where they could/would get blown up. The big difference is that there is more zip in Bradford’s ball.
also sanchez has better footwork/timing than bradford. bradford looks jittery as hell in the pocket.
If by “better footwork” you mean stepping on the running backs’ feet repeatedly, you’re correct.
haha nice. i guess i meant better pocket presence. bradford looks lost in the pocket. either he feels pressure that isn’t there or he waits too long and gets hit/sacked. he doesn’t look confident/comfortable most of the time and it translates into poor decision making and/or inaccurate throws.
Agreed – after nine games now, Bradford still looks gun shy and afraid to take a hit. Some times he looks downright crazed in there!
Deer in the headlights, like me.
The way our O line was letting Bradford get blown up all day I really don’t blame him for being scurred…
Few times Murray just tripped by himself. One time they blamed Sanchez and their feet didn’t touch. Def needs work though cause it was happening.
What’s with Eagles players always tripping over themsleves?? Been happening since the Reid era must be the fake turf.
Not much positives from this game. A loss is a loss. I liked the pace when Sanchez entered, but I think the pace makes him wreckless in the red zone.
Austin should be cut today….
Followed immediately by an inquisition to determine why he was hired and at what pay grade.
he was hired b/c he caught a lot of first downs and we needed a vet presence. he’s been as decent as any other wr.
Suh was a monster today. Kelce was not so good. I keep hearing about how athletic he is and how he is a top 5 center, but I’m not seeing it this season. Too many penalties today and that high snap.
Kelce has been a huge disappointment. He’s also very undersized in terms of traditional Centers. He can’t handle a player like Suh, or Knighton. Those 300+ pound DT’s. The false starts, the poor snaps, the holding. He’s really regressed.
Maybe Kelce has a problem with the quarterbacks.
He’s been awful, at least as far as snapping the ball.
That’s a bad matchup for Kelce. Not making excuses, but certain kinds of players can be good in their own way and still have bad matchups against other kinds of players. I think Kelce is really good in one way, but has weaknesses in others. He’s a good player, not a great. Compare to Cox, who is a great player. I can’t think of a certain kind of player who’s a bad matchup for him, because he’s so good in so many ways.
The athletic center who gives up some weight and power for athleticism will always struggle with a DL like Suh. That’s what Kelce is. An athletic center who doesn’t give up weight and power for athleticism is a center version of Jason Peters; in other words, a pretty unique player.
So much of this game is about matchups as opposed to players sucking or not sucking.
I see. Well will just put him on ice (and change chipper’s whole scheme) for games where are center just doesn’t match up well with the opposing D.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I was saying.
Seriously, grow a freaking brain.
I was pointing out that while Kelce is a good player, he’s not a great player. But of course it makes sense to read that as some sort of “Kool Aid” comment, and make a smart ass reply.
Not really sure what you’re shooting for there, champo.
he looked like a great player the last two years. maybe it was good having mathis on his side.
Yep, probably true. Probably having anyone semi-competent helped. A decent to good center, which is what Kelce is, is probably going to require good guard play to really shine.
Sorry for the snarkiness, but really it’s just better to accept the fact that he sucks. He’s technically a good scheme fit for Chip’s contrived offense, but who wants a center who can be pushed all over the field? He’s an even bigger liability come playoff time when short yardage success is at a premium.
I disagree that he sucks. He’s a good center. His primary strength is his athleticism which allows for some great downfield blocking. This isn’t something special to Chip’s scheme. It worked in Andy’s as well, and any zone-blocking scheme (of which there are many). Andy drafted him, after all. I think he’s a good player with certain limitations.
Again, a player without those limitations would be considered a great player, and there aren’t that many at the center position.
It all has to do with the matchups, and there are times where you’re just going to get a bad matchup. For example, Malcolm Jenkins is a good safety. He’s certainly not crap by any measure. But he got a bad matchup with Cole Beasley in the Cowboys game. This sort of thing is going to happen at every position, on every team. I think the matchup factor is something that few analysts recognize in the playoffs.
By comparison, Fletcher Cox is a great player, and there aren’t many matchups in which he is at a disadvantage. I think this is probably a good way of defining what separates a good player from a great player: are they susceptible to mismatches?
Kelce has been putrid all year.
the problems we’re having are by kelly’s design, meaning the way he chose to use the salary cap:
bradford $
murray $
mathews $
extraneous STers $
no $ towards Oline depth
this leaves us with a thin unproven OL that only got worst when an aging JP went down. kelly is now reaping what he has sewn.
I think the bigger issue was not drafting OL. Jordon Hicks has been outstanding, but TJ Clemmings would probably help more this year
oh for sure that goes into, i was just more focusing on the distribution of the salary cap angle.
no this also an absolutely huge issue. drafting ZERO Olinemen the last TWO years is ninth ring of hell sin if you’re a football coach
I’ll take Hicks over Clemmings any day. But, I do understand your point about drafting OL. I believe if the Eagles had Hicks today, they would have won. Ryans and Alonso just don’t look healthy.
Could have gone; Clemmings, traded away 4th for Detroit’s 2016 3rd, trade into 5th with 6th and 7th for Hicks, Shepherd in 6th, UDFA Raciti rather than going Hicks, trade, Shepherd, Evans, Raciti.
Why not get both Clemmings and Hicks by playing the draft better?
Bradford gamble was still probably worth it in hindsight especially with how poorly had played. Just having to give up that 2nd round pick smarts.
To me the shaky moves have been investing so much in Maxwell and Murray. Both of these guys continue to undewhelm me especially when you consider their production vs paycheck to date.
Special teams coverage has been generally solid all year and no real issues there. Even with the K injury, special teams have been the most consistent unit among the three this year for the Eagles.
i hear you with regards to bradford, although i’m still bitter about the 2nd rounder going to Stl. yeah man you nailed it, that maxwell contracted sucks out loud too.
Yeah. The 2nd rounder was tough to give up. But the way Foles is playing, it looks like a pick was needed to get Bradford. Not a 2nd rounder. A 4th.
hell a 5th/6th could have done it
You can’t consider the Bradford deal without considering the 2nd round pick. Many people prefer to see Bradford and Foles as a swap, and evaluate accordingly, but that’s wishful thinking. We lost a 2nd rounder in the deal, and that made it a bad deal.
cant evaluate after 9 games. if we resign and he plays like palmer is playing now it’s worth it. what was the alternative
You’re going to need a stronger word than “ugh” for this, Tommy.
Hey now, remain civil there Joe… I don’t want to have to come down on some of you people
Allowing Miles Austin on the field is a fireable offense.
Some atrocious football today. Like, why bother being a fan in the first place if this is your payoff every week?
My sentiments exactly. I put a lot of time into this team and no matter how meaningless my said time is, it still really sucks to be sitting here dealing with this loss.
What is the Eagles’ drop rate % on a late game drives? I don’t even want to know.
Murray & Ertz this week.
Austin & Matthews a couple weeks ago.
Matthews before.
How can you not catch the ball in these situations?
They are suffering from failures in the simplest of places. They literall jabe to catch better and snap the ball better.
also handing the ball off properly and not tripping the RBs
Execution is an issue that should have been addressed and solved by now.
Maybe the pace of the game has a negative effect that results in drops. The receivers are tired… Also, when you are not so talented and you spend so much energy trying to get open, you can’t finish the play with a catch.
Austin on at least two this week as well. Plus not getting his second foot down on the TD! For an aging veteran, that’s a huge rookie mistake!
for real, how much production are you really losing by having ajirotutu replace austin at that position?
Less time is called for Mitch, especially on a beautiful day
I was referring more so to all the draft breakdown vids I watch but you are right. I did end up having a very nice day with my son.
Sooner or later someone’s going to have to look at Chip’s decision making.
Your last sentence is one every NFL owner should be more aware of.
I couldn’t believe they let Sanchez pass the ball that close to the goal line when settling for a field goal likely would have been enough to win the game – and the running game was pretty good at that point.
That ball went right by Austin’s head…He should have grabbed it
CK should be aware of the situation. Field goal allows eagles to go up. Sanchez hasn’t taken many snaps. Should have ran the ball all the downs.
It was a suspect play call and the guy who was listening to the radio next to us told me Merrill and Quick really criticized it right away.
Do they report to the GM?
serious question: why did we go away from celek and ertz? those TE crossing routes were killing their D.
Questionable play calling for sure, but Bradford had minimal time back there and maybe TEs were needed to help block
So glad we invested so many high draft picks on WRs these past few years. These guys help us far more than DJax and JMac ever did!
Only Wr to really play bad was Austin
pretty hard to blame an entire game on the 4th receiver on the depth chart……..but Miles Austin sunk the eagles today
True… Maybe we should blame the coach who keep sending him in to frak up
sure, thats where im starting
I thought Ags looked good when he was in
yes he did, if i was running things, Miles Austin would be on the street tomorrow and id be calling Jacksonville for rasheed bailey
Except the trade deadline was about two weeks ago
isn’t Bailey still on their practice squad? just think you have to offer a contract not give up anything in a trade for a PS guy
where was ags?
he was on the field when Sanchez threw the INT right by Austin’s face….the later drive when Austin was sleepwalking over the middle i’m not sure he was on the field
Who were the go to WRs getting open down the stretch? That last drive? Why aren’t these guys doing a better job of consistently getting separation?
I’m venting, but it pisses me off how much this offense has regressed and how much of a joke they’ve become. We played one of the WORST defenses in the NFL and managed to score just 3 points after the 1st quarter. That’s disgraceful.
Ertz was wide open on that last play… And it wasn’t like Mark had a lot of time to find somebody
Probably because they’re not very good.
Dime a dozen WRs is what Chip likes though
Bradford x-rays were negative but he did reportedly have a concussion.
Bradford/Sanchez is Peete/Detmer. Two marginal starting QBs who aren’t simply aren’t good enough to be Top 20 QBs.
Felt that way all season and today didn’t change my opinion at all. If anything, Kelly has probably gotten the most he can out of either one. Scheme only can take you so far especially if you have such underwhelming QB play.
X-ray negative, but I bet he’s in the MRI tomorrow or Tuesday (depending on swelling). The real damage could be hiding in a tissue injury.
This team is what it is – horribly inconsistent, undisciplined and has questionable talent in important areas (e.g., o-line, wr). It has yet to play four quarters of football this entire year and, if you go back to last year, that stretch is even longer. Whether it is coaching or lack of talent (or both), either way it is on Chip Kelly. I keep waiting for something to change, for some more consistency, but it is now week ten and the song remains the same.
The Song Remains the Same… fantastic song, at least…
Its talent and it starts with the QB play which simply isn’t good enough to overcome some of the other issues. Kelly’s stubbornness plays a part but to me it the scheme or even coaching aren’t the issues even if I still think this defense ends up middle of the pack this year.
To me the real question is can Kelly the GM right some of the mistakes he made this past offseason. I am pretty dubious he can with the biggest issue though being this team doesn’t have a quality starting QB (Top 20) moving ahead forward. Almost a death kneel to an NFL franchise today.
Either way it comes back to Chip. And I’m not convinced Kelly the coach could make the most of the talent any way.
5-8 in our last 13 games. 7-9 in our last 16 games. Yep, mediocre at best. Not even that it seems anymore.
with regards to the passing game it’s really a comedy of errors. either bradford is holding on to the ball too long/throwing a bad pass/being generally inconsistent or it’s the WRs dropping balls. It’s amazing to see so many self inflicted wounds.
Throw in a hold or illegal formation penalty and they’re at 2nd and 30!
too true, our discipline has gone out the window with regards to stupid penalties
I really thought the playcalling today was shit as well….especially in the running game. Is there anywhere i can find out how many outside vs. inside runs were called? This is a game where Chip needed to get guys on the edge to get this weak ass defense gassed and tired….instead i felt like he kept running it right into the teeth
It was terrible. Chip has started to look as clueless as Reid often did more & more.
He looks numb. When it gets to that point, that’s not good.
“Just gotta execute”
as much as we beat ourselves today i still can get over miami’s last td. barwin’s pass deflection that somehow stayed in the air forever and eventually caught was complete and utter bullshit. do you guys realize that ryan tannehill is acutally credited with a “TD pass” on that play.
It’s a mix of bad luck and missed opportunities. When you miss a lot of opportunities consistently though, the problems are deeper, which I suspect is true for the eagles. The bad luck exists in Hicks going down last week. I think Hicks would have made the play on that bs tipped TD catch by Landry.
What offensive player on this team is “good”
The silence speaks volumes
This team is D-O-N-E done. Stick a fork in them.
nope, the nfc East is soooooo bad that this team will torture us all the way to week 17.
The Giants have a better chance of getting it together than the Eagles do. And right now, I’d take the DC Grudenlings’ chances over ours as well. If we do get to the playoffs (< 50% chance), we won't even be divisional round roadkill – we'll be wild card round homekill. I repeat, DONE.
I’d much rather see Washington in the playoffs than the Giants.
Against the Falcons or Vikings? At home in January? I’d call both of those pretty even matchups. Not roadkill
I was exaggerating somewhat for effect. But I think it’s safe to say at this point that the Eagles are what they appear to be – an around .500 team that is dumb and inconsistent and has glaring holes at several spots on the roster. They’re not a legitimate playoff caliber team. A legitimate playoff caliber team does not get off to a 16-3 lead over a crappy opponent playing on the road for the third week in a row and which just fired its coach and has nothing to play for, and then blow it.
There is no reason to root for them to sneak into the playoffs at this point, because they have no chance to win anything. None. I’d rather they lose out so we can get a high pick and draft the elite offensive lineman, quarterback, receiver, or pass rusher we need. Going 8-8 and getting throttled by an actual good team in the playoffs holds zero interest for me.
Even 8-8 can still win the East if the Eagles are able to beat the Skins and Giants.
I just don’t see them going 4-3 or better with Sanchez likely starting a couple of games now.
Basically in the ICU on a ventilator with a loss the next 2 weeks finishing it.
yeah lets get in the playoffs!!! Maybe we can win a Super Bowl!!!
Begone troll
saving grace is the strength of schedule, although we did just blow 1 to the fins. either way it’s going to be 1 frustrating/hair pulling/blood pressure raising ride.
it sucks. they are horrible. They dont have enough talent on the team because Chip cut everyone and brought in kiko alonso
Chip Kelly has NEVER won ANYTHING. STICK A FORK IN HIS UPPER LIP! HE IS DONE HE SUCKS!!!!
bro are you the troll? if so fuck you.
I am not a troll at all. I just think Chp Kelly sucks. He has never won anything.
he won the pac 10 a bunch of times, the nfc east once, probably college coach of the year at some point.
are those championships?
uh yeah
really? How many championships are there in the NFL?
im really enjoying talking to you lol roflcopter;) for real you’re kind of taking my mind of the game.
but to your question: you can be a division champion and a conference champion. so 8 divisions champs+2 conferences champs+ 1 SB champ= 11 team championships. they’re are also individual ones like rushing title, passing title, etc.
So Andy Reid was a Champion. Nice!
why yes, yes he was
also a SB champion as a packer. can’t remember if he was O coordinator or QBs coach when they won it in 97
and now that you bring that up I remember andy as eagles coach & gm wearing that packers ring !!! f in pissed me off sofa king much!! thanks for reminding me
sorry dave
he was never OC.
oh, whoops…that makes sense. all the nfl films clips of him in GB are of him dicking around with favre, not calling plays, and being yelled at by holmgren
yep Philly was kinda surprised when they hired a QB coach to be HC.
Winning Championships would be better than just getting there amirite?
Best comment ever!
thx man. solidarity! although for real he sucks at trolling
A few weeks ago, he had a bunch of people interacting with him. He’s slipping.
as a kid he only got trophies for participation. the world makes us who we are i guess.
You’re just the cutest little joke on this board!
nah, jokes are supposed to funny.
Cute isn’t a word I would use.
Rams get a nice pick 2nd round. Man kinda wish didnt waste it trading for Bradford would rather just traded Foles n get a pick in return.
Chip the GM is almost as bad as Chip the coach. Oh..
nah, chip the GM isn’t giving chip the coach the players to run his system. coach chip is ok, GM chip….
you need to go find CHip Kelly and suck his dick.
I rather not see Oregon level talent.
well when it comes to the Oline im with you. im more mad at his use of the salary cap. we have nfl talent at a lot of positions but we overpaid dearly for it.
I’ve been waiting out his decisions and gambles but there’s clearly regression since he’s been here. He has made some good choices but right now the bad ones are destroying this team.
Just a random stat to illustrate how much our offense has regressed this year…
In Chip’s first year as head coach our offense scored 30 or more points in 8 of 16 regular season games. In 2014, the Eagles offense scored 30 or more points in 9 of 16 regular season games. This year, we have 2 such games.
Another stat:
In 2013, the Eagles scored less than 24pts just 4 out of 17 total games.
In 2014, the Eagles scored less than 24points in just 4 out of 16 games.
We have scored less than 24 points in 4 of our 9 games so far – and 2 of those games we scored exactly 24 points.
No doubt about it, this offense is holding us back and becoming a serious concern moving forward. We aren’t going to win games if we can’t get consistent OL, QB, and WR play.
The other play that really stood out to me was the Barwin tipped past that Landry fielded like a punt for a TD.
For whatever reason, no one on the Fins’ line decided to block Barwin even they had the T? over to pick him up if necessary. Barwin rushes in uncontested, leaves his feet, and Tannehill still forces the throw.
It gets tipped, ducks straight up into the air end over end, and Landry fields it cleanly because Jenkins had his back completely turned to the play and had no idea had happened or where the ball was at until the last second when Landry leap up to grab it.
Total fluke play. Was hoping someone on the Eagles side would have enough sense to tackle him since the ball was obviously tipped. Never happened and I can’t really blame our DBs there. But just a crappy, deflating, fluky play.
Yeah although Jenkins was being matched up more often than I would have liked today in the slot vs Dolphins’ WRs in 1-on-1 man matchups.
I just don’t why Davis schemed that way this week especially with Jenkins likely not at 100%.
Also, I don’t understand his love affair with Maragos. Maragos wasn’t so good today with his tackling, coverage, and his punt block wasn’t so good on the blocked punt. The guy blew him up!
when you let a team hang around those random bounces of the ball are going to kill you. a good team puts themselves in a position so that kind of fluke TD “pass” doesn’t hurt them bc they’re already up 21pts.
Gotta play the ball defenders! In my heart, I believe Hicks would have prevented that play. Hicks has shown that he has a nose for the ball.
For what it is worth, Foles was terrible again in St Louis and Fisher got roasted after the game on why he didn’t pull Foles in the blowout.
The Eagles would be better off with FOles and that second round pick. Foles isn’t hurt.
How did you get unbanned
insomniac, just talk to him civilly, welcome him to our humble home, and don’t worry about him. he’s bad at trolling anyway.
Just ignore him. Like every child he’ll go away if he’s ignored
Football is no fun when you don’t have a Quarterback.
That simple.
Good thing these consistent 7-9 seasons will prevent us from ever getting one. Well, that and dumbass Chip GM trading away any draft pick worth a damn
Not really. Teddy Bridgewater and Carr were both there when we took Marcus Smith in 2014.
Football is no fun when Chip Kelly is the coach
The eagles got the wrong Miles. They needed the Giants WR Miles White. Wears 19, too.
i think he was a packer to start the season
Speaking of GB and their loss today against the Lions, any team can win any week. However, every week is about the same ol’ same ol’ missed opportunities.
Watch the Giants upset the Pats here. What a mess.
Well, when your old bats a pass 8n the air that big resulting in a TD, you just write 8t off as a bad day.
Year 3 of CK and year 1 with his guys. I fully expect Jeff Lurie to honor the 5-year contract with his HC, and I will be very disappointed if he doesn’t. I am not looking at the record, not looking at the score, but trying to appreciate the infinite ways in which the goal of building a winning franchise in the NFL can go sideways. This may not be well received today, but I commend the owner for betting on Kelly, and I love Kelly’s aversion to mediocrity. Risk can burn, and right about now Eagle Nation is on fire. Kelly’s skill at talent evaluation, for me is a mixed bag at this point, but I don’t think we have a prideful, stubborn ego here. If Kelly needs more help than he is getting from Mano, I expect him to get it. If Sam is not the man, I expect the plug to be pulled. I will support the effort to be great and suffer the present not very good with optimism. I will take this any day over repeatedly making the playoffs and getting handled when it really stings. If there is one thing Andy Reid taught me, it is that 19th place = 2nd place. As the great Lombardi intoned, “Winning is the only thing.”
Aversion to mediocrity. He would rather just be straight up shitty.
hey man good job. this was your first actual good troll, i chuckled at this one.
As painful as this season has been, we all have to take a step back and realize that this is actually Chip’s first year. Most new coaches come in and blow the team up in year one. He wasn’t allowed, so it happened this year. It actually set his plan back two years and here we are.
Ummm we lost Bradford and Mathews. How many teams will win under those circumstances?
You’ll get 4. You don’t let a guy go into the final year of his deal without an extension. If Kelly does what he should next year; you’ll get more than 5 years, if he does this again; you’ll get four.
nice assessments .. except the “1 thing andy reid taught me” .. didn’t his crap attitude at the post game pressers teach you that he doesn’t care about you / didn’t him letting Trotter & Dawk go tell you that he doesn’t care about his legends / doensnt his assessment regarding linebackers and recievers tell you he knows more than you … sorry. not a fan of aandy reid. not so much of Chip either but I do like you angle on it and as frustrating as it is to see Chip’s Choices play like crap .. im ok with how you describe his dice-roll
This is the glass half-full argument… Which by implication means that you are ok with the “risks” he’s taken. I’m not impressed with Kelly the coach of the GM, and if I’m the owner, I’m scared to death.
Not game related. But i was reading an article looking into upcoming free agents. Any chance we will try to get Von Miller?? Well if hes doesnt resign
not sure, he’d fit pretty well, but new contracts were just given to Graham and Barwin, plus i know Von is a little bit in his own world, might not be a #CultureFit
Graham wasn’t an expensive contract. Think around 5-6 a year. So its doable?
Culture is the biggest thingbut he’s not too bad? I’m just sick and tired of this lack of pass rush. He would easily be the best player available. We need better talent everywhere.
i agree i’d love to have him…think he’s had 2 sacks in the last 20 minutes. tough to figure out how they spend the money in the offseason. Going to be a lot of question marks…..Resign Bradford? What kind of money will Nolan Carroll want? Is this Sproles last year? Any FA offensive lineman should they go after? Do you let Ced and Vinny Curry go?
No chance he leaves Denver. Unless he gets in trouble for dating the coach’s daughter.
Hey, at least our QB isn’t Peyton Manning. 5/18 for 30 yards and 3 picks? Woof.
yea it’s pretty depressing watching an all-time great be his teams biggest flaw
Just a friendly reminder: please ignore the trolls. They do go away if you do that.
Yes, please don’t let this sanctuary turn into the cesspit that is Philly.com!
An appropriate quote to describe the general commentators there:
“The slime of humanity”
No. He really doesnt. He is mentally ill and doesnt go away. No joke intended.
Wow a patriots player just tripped up Amendola on a sure punt return TD
Is Stephen Morris still on the practice squad?
i believe so
Peyton has been awful since the second half of last year but today was just embarrassing
“Sam Bradford has AC shoulder sprain in left shoulder, source confirms @LesBowen report, to go along w/ concussion. Return unknown as of now.”
Be surprised if Sanchez isn’t the starter for the next month.
welp we will be like 5-8 so yeah season is done
Best stuff I saw on Twitter was to expect Bradford back for the Pats game.
Miles Austin on INT: “It was play action and I was coming to left side.
You’re supposed to always expect the ball. Their guy made a play.”
Normally the calls to ‘cut a player’ are completely unjustified but if Austin is really taking no responsibility he deserves to be cut tomorrow.
i actually think his worst play was on that final drive, when Sanchez threw to him over the middle and he wasn’t even looking. I can stomach it if he’s running through a crowd or had someone on his back at least but there was nobody within ten yards of him! If he catches that he could have easily ran into FG range….that play killed that drive and the momentum because they had picked up a first down already and had the Miami Defense scrambling, hence why Austin was so wide open
The Patriots cut guys all the time. I don’t see a reason to avoid it.
The reason Miles is getting PT and targets is because he is better than the other guys. That’s the scary part!
Inconceivable!
For the fans who cheered Bradford’s injury today around me, fu. Your the reason that Eagles’ fans have such a crappy reputation nationally and it was more than just a handful of fans who cheered when Bradford was down.
I dont understand why anyone would. Bradford was finally getting comfortable and was 19/25 with a td. Looks like D. Kelly had quite a bit of trouble today
I was in the lower level in the end zone and in was notable enough.
no one in their right mind roots for sanchez to enter the game. but if the fans are confused about which QB they want then its just another sign that Chip has this franchise all messed up .. some great players and some very good players ..and nothing to show for it ..but a play every 17 seconds and the fastest 3&outs in the NFL and bad time management skills as is eagles tradition
were they really??? On the TV it sounded like they were just cheering Sanchez entering the game and also there was a Miami player hurt walking off as well, so ithought maybe they were cheering him
but that’s pathetic if they were cheering for Bradford’s injury
They were cheering when he was still down on the field and the training staff was out to look at him.
Bradford was having a sold game; cheering his injury there had no basis in play on the field.
Jason Kelce: “That was the worst game of my entire career. … That’s about all I have to say.”
Forrest Gump-like after the game and now the 3rd time this year that Kelce has said he has ‘played the worst game of his career.’
Been the single biggest disappointment to me this year given what you expected he can do.
That position is in need of an upgrade this off-season. Kelce’s lack of functional strength has become a massive liability……and now he can’t snap the ball properly.
hard to snap when he knows suh is about to run through his shit
can only replace so many OL guys in one offseason. we still need Gs and a T. plus, he just signed his extension, which financially they’re tied to for at least the 2016 season.
have to hope the new bodies around him will improve the line overall. or get lucky on another day 3 pick, like we did with him
Wow, am I the only one who saw the Giants run a play and the clock never started?
Holy shit, in a game situation where clock awareness is critical, the Giants actually ran an untimed play, which on the incomplete pass, left the clock at 2:01 instead of the 2 minute warning, which will save the Pats a timeout. The fuck are people doing out there?
and the Giants just kicked a field goal where only 1 second came off the clock. What the fuck?
and now Collins drops a gift of an interception. The Giants have been all but trying to give this game away and the Patriots won’t take it.
Fire Chip Kelly. That is all.
K…..M….A……
Hear, Hear!
i HATE EVERYTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkST5-ZFHw
was robin Williams an eagles fan ?? o m g no wonder
If I see anybody wearing one of those “Life is Good” t-shirts I’m going to bloody his nose.
(I already hated those f in too happy things anyway)
They remind me of Prozac.
Well the Chiefs really turned their season around.
At least the Giants lost.
oh yeah that makes me feel so much better that Chip Kelly has a clue as to what he is doing.
That is always most welcome news. I really hate everything associated with that team.
it’s crazy. I know my belief in my team was overblown, shame on me, but what a year to have actually been on the cusp. The NFCE is bad, the Packers and Seattle look mortal, etc. We coulda been a contender.
We really could be anything in between 1-8 and 9-0. So frustrating.
The harsh thing is that if Chip had just tried to make it work with existing talent but adding a few pieces, ie, kept Foles, Mac, Cary, etc., we would probably be in better shape. Even if you believe he successfully upgraded those positions, the chaos from lack of continuity has done us in. The big splash moves have not paid off–yet.
I was a Cary supporter (sort of), but NC3 and BM are 10x better than those 2 ever were going to be.
Carroll appears to be a solid upgrade. Maxwell? Not so much.
It’s hard for me to comprehend how the Giants lost that game but good job guys you pulled it off, fucking dumbasses. 2 passes to stop the clock late in the 4th and you kick a field goal anyhow, just remarkably shit clock management.
ODBjr dropped the game winner in the end zone. And then that Giants dback couldn’t hold onto that INT to seal it. Cannot give Brady a chance. Pats game is now our Super Bowl.
Why throw it at all there? Hell throw it if you know it will be the 2 minute warning by the time the play is over but why give the Pats an extra timeout? That would have made all the difference in the world. 3 runs and the Pats only have 1:10~ to get into field goal range instead of 1:48.
There were actually a lot of really dumb plays by the Giants in that game. Not as many as us of course but it still faceplam worthy if you’re a NYG fan. My favorite was the gunner running right past Amendola on his long punt return because I guess he thought it was a fair catch? And instead of standing in front of him to make sure, he just ran right by him.
Another funny play was Jayron Hosley T-rex arm flailing at that long ball that Lafell caught. He actually did get a hand on the ball but it was short enough that I almost feel he should have intercepted it.
And of course Dwayne Harris not fighting to stay inbounds on the play that went for 1st and goal at the end. Why the fuck would you willingly run out of bounds there? You don’t need yards stupid you need clock.
We are going to lose the Super Bowl then.
suck it
why does Austin get so much time/throws, is Cooper out?
Cooper has zero catches since October 19th. Curious.
but I don’t understand with Matthews (ok he got hurt), Huff, Ags, Pooper, how does it seem like every game Austin is making some big drop? How does it even come to that?
The dime a dozen WR approach only works if the running game is doing well and the QB is playing well. We can’t seem to get all those working at the same time, for an extended period of time. I kept thinking we were getting closer, but my god after the safety and the TD and the next drive, and when we missed that FG (do you know Gostowski has not missed all year) I was like oh no, oh no, don’t let this happen to us. I’ll go back to church.
Yeah, it’s odd.
It’s a complete mystery to me as well! I haven’t seen the snap counts yet for this week, but if I remember correctly, he had the most snaps at WR out of anyone last week. That’s just atrocious. I’d so much have rather overpaid Maclin by $1mil and then signed any of the many mid level FA RBs available over DeMarco Murray. I hated that signing from day one. And, 9 games in I’m looking forward to the end of 2016 when we can finally cut him and get out of that terrible contract.
“This is going to be a long week. Please keep things civil in the comments section. We’re all a bit on edge. No reason to be over the top.”
I’m happy to do so with the POV of everybody else on this board, but I’m out for blood with this team.
The sheer number of mistakes indicates a continued lack of desire/focus to do one’s job properly. This has been the case more than it hasn’t since the Dallas choke down the stretch last year.
I’m especially inflamed at “pro bowl” center Jason Kelce, who had better not hide behind any hidden nagging injuries that require off-season surgery in an attempt to gain sympathy.
On a final note; I’m still 100% committed to seeing Chip Kelly give this another try in 2016.
It’s like the bizarro Patriots, no one does their job
I was remarking to my friends during the Pats game that no matter what physical mistakes the Pats make that nobody over there ever makes extremely dumb football plays.
I’m seen that so many times, in close games the other team often just makes a little mistake and that’s the difference. See, e.g., SB.
Its truly remarkable considering all the reps the team takes.
This game was a disaster and I am as upset as the next guy. I hate to say I called it but I called it. Everyone who was assuming these next 3 games were going to be wins are going to think the world has now ended.
Sure doesn’t look great, but we aren’t much diff than we were last week…if Sam can play.
preach MM. you’re spot on.
Pardon me if I missed it in the early posts in this thread, but has Jason Kelce’s stealing of his salary been discussed?
not really, but you bring up an excellent point, wtf happened to kelce? is he hurt, is he suddenly just bad, what the hell is happening at center?
If he’s hurt, put it on the injury report. He’s really playing putrid football right now.
Other than the mistakes that stood out, did he really seem to have a bad day against Suh? He made some mistakes, and had the hold…but overall he held up ok, right?
No, he did not.
https://twitter.com/LesBowen/status/666043566901370881
hey here is a shocker. Smith didn’t make the box score.
He swatted the blocked punt out of bounds. So, there is that…
That’s actually helpful. Maragos being thrown into the punter………….not helpful at all.
Kept contain and forced the runner inside on a sweep his way.
He caused a run play to lose a half yard. Surprised he wasn’t credited. Really just filled his gap. It was when the runner basically let his lineman’s backside tackle him.
he should be cut w/ Austin to send a message, but it won’t happen; even as a 1st rounder, he has almost no cap hit even on his last year (~$2.5M in 2017) and is more expensive to cut than keep up until that least year.
unless it’s an emergency due to health of players in front of him, I don’t see why MS2 should be active going forward. A light won’t suddenly turn on after “observing” so much real NFL play from the bench. He’s depth and that’s it.
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I just really, really hope some other folks get to decide who will be on our 53 next year. Aside from the Thurmond signing, I don’t see any reason that man should have 100% control
Not trying to divert attention, but they are NOT HAPPY with Nicky Foles in St louis
At least they will have the comfort of a high 2nd round pick to keep them all warm & fuzzy.
one of those lose-lose trades.
It’s amazing too, though I guess not really. Last week when that Dallas game ended & St. Louis got off the hook for owing us anything for SB I said to myself, “watch & see now Bradford will get wrecked next week & we’ll be SOL.” Sho nuff.
yup i thought the same thing, especially with the way the year has gone, any info on how long Sam will be out?
Haven’t seen anything official but I certainly wouldn’t expect to see him until December at the earliest.
Ironic too that he made it the same number of games as Foles did last year.
that’s what i was setting up for lol, 3 years in a row we lose the qb we opened up with around mid season
Agree but just makes him cheaper for next year
The Shogun of Harlem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o6wXNS9XJc
They paid Nick. At least we didn’t do that. Does seem inevitable he will be tagged though.
Edelman broken foot. May be done for the year.
Ouch
pretty big blow
Bringing out the ambulance for Zona Guard Mike Iupati ……not good
One of the big differences to me this year is that instead of making nig ST plays, they are being made against us. For example, the Dallas return last week and the punt block today. Not to mention all our missed FGs. When was our last big ST play?
Sproles return vs. the Jets?
Is that the only one? Seems so long ago.
i believe so, it was a month and a half ago. ST were a big reason this squad won 10 games last year….this year were in the negative for big ST plays meaning there have been more against us, i would even include Dallas big return last week that basically set them up in FG range. I kept waiting for us to have a big ST play today…just never happened
Sporles had a 30 some yard return today.
Generally, ST has been bad for us this year. The exact opposite of last year.
#15 by DVOA, #1 last year.
Yeah, what a difference a year makes.
Seattle looking like they will have the same record as us when the clock strikes midnight….they are just as big a mess as we are offensively and they just paid their franchise QB
They have a recent SB and a great defense still. I dont really feel bad for them at all. You know?
oh i don’t feel bad at all, just crazy how quickly things can go downhill
Yeah see Denver
They weren’t loveable or gracious winners either.
Never good hearing this
https://twitter.com/howardeskin/status/666055839145267200
yea that’s scary stuff
Did they say anything about his shoulder?
Sprained AC joint,.. Disaster avoided
Not seeing whatever you are linking. Mike Iupati or Sammy B?
Blocked punt really hurt, and having Mark Sanchez in without any reps during the week really hurt. That endzone INT was simply gut wrenching.
At least NY lost.
If Washington wins the division my life is going to be hell for 9 months. I really hope this team gets it’s shit together. The defense that I thought was elite seems to be farm from it.
If it makes you feel any better, mine too. I live in DC (generally) and these fans kill me. It’s bad enough the Caps got a shot this year, I just won’t be able to handle the Skins getting in the playoffs.
Live in Anne Arundel County, work in D.C. Same boat man.
I live in Bowie. I will buy you a beer (or whatever) if you ever want to hangout.
There’s a Eagles bar in Gambrills (Grottos) or we could meet somewhere else.
Might need to take you up on that this season. I’m not all that far from there. I have heard of Grottos, is it a chain?
Kinda. Pizza chain that started in PA, but now has places at the beaches in DE.
I start a new job at the end of the month and have off the entire week of Thanksgiving. So I’m all about hanging out.
Beach… that’s where I have been to it.
Yup. It’s an Eagles bar too, or really just a Philly sports bar. They used to play the fight song every time we scored when they first opened. Had to stop because customers were complaining.
Here’s my info. Hit me up.
b.avery.greene@gmail.com
I promise you a round if you want to hang.
Alright dude saving it and maybe we can get a drink for the Thursday game or something. I’m 30 by the way…
39.
I’m in DE for Thanksgiving. But I’m always open to drinking fun. My wife is pregnant, so I have about 6.5 months of fun left before things change drastically.
I have the NHL package, so if you’re a Philly sports fan, we can do one of the Flyers games (or more if you’re cool) at my crib. My buddy has the package, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. The Flyers play the Kings on Tuesday, and you’re more than welcome to come hang.
I’m worried only one of you will be here in December. You should meet in a public place. (I’m kidding)
AG will not be here in December.
BK: Sports fan
AK: changing diapers
I’ll be here, I’ve got to find solidarity about this season somewhere.
I missed some details and my last post is not clear.
I have the NHL package.
My buddy has the Sunday ticket.
Either is good if you want to hang. 🙂
I’m no Sanchez fan per se, but i did enjoy his bounciness in the pocket and ability to create plays with his feet…..compared to Sam, Mark is like Russell Wilson
He is certainly a bit more exciting. Maybe boring is better. Feels like Sam hasn’t had a bad int in a long time. That INT by Mark was inexcusable. The game was over. All he had to do was take care of the ball.
yea thought Sam was playing better as of late. The INT was bad, Mark was in no position to force anything, not like they needed the TD to win, i still think Austin could have made a damn play on it….but overall, should not have made the throw
Bad loss for so many reasons. Biggest One? One of my best friends has bragging rights for the next 4 years.
Jordan Matthews was pretty quiet today, again, going 3 for 21 and while Huff played his best game of the year, he was on 3 for 23 with a td. What would we have done without Celek and Ertz today? haha
Probably still Huff’s second best game this year, but he did look good when his number was called (and he caught it), as usual.
wrs combined for 70 of todays 463 yds and it’s clear why they aren’t more productive.
and dolphin’s top cb, brent grimes was out.
weird thing is, I remember having two really good WRs in their prime not too long ago
Huff also had a 20 yard catch called back on a Kelce hold
Kelce ruining all kinds of plays seems to be a theme from yesterday.
Ehhh that one I thought was ticky tacky as a call. Babres man was pushing him back, Suh got by Kelce for a second and Kelce buried him overtop Barbre and the DT
Sure, that one may have been ticky tacky. Kelce’s overall level of play is killing his team however.
Yea he’s had a rough year. Ironically the G’s were probably the only two OL I didn’t find myself screaming at for blowing plays yesterday.
I’ve thought the G play has been generally good over the last few weeks.
and the big PI if I remember correctly was called on a pass thrown to Huff deep down the seam.
Those were some serious dance moves from Drew Stanton & Palmer after that TD.
All the Eagles have to do now is win out to top last year’s record, which was not good enough for this management.
Can’t even really enjoy dallas loss.
I enjoyed the Giants loss though
I can forgive Chip for a lot, but why did he not try to find a better backup quarterback than Sanchez? say what you will about Bradford but my heart sank when cbs switched to this game and I saw mr butt fumble on the field.
i don’t understand all the sanchez hate, we hadn’t scored in 2+ full quarters and sanchez was the problem?
It’s that end zone interception that kills me. He ALWAYS throws killer interceptions.
i cant disagree
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-czPM8-ogyak/VIJd6Uxu6SI/AAAAAAAAil8/tbXOlNLLVGE/s1600/I%2Bdon't%2Balways%2Bthrow%2Binterceptions.jpg
What really hurts is that it was so unnecessary, at THat point, making sure we at least kick an easy FG was #1’Priority.. To make it worse, it was first down, he could have taken a easy 3 yard gain to a wide open Celek, he tries to be a hero and lost us the game… I could see if it was 3rd down and we were down by 4, he takes a shot and throws an INT… But first and goal, down by 1, to throw THAT INT is just rock bottom
Exactly
Sanchez sucks, but he’s a backup for a reason. There are way bigger fish to fry in this choke.
JohnDoe610…I think you are being had by a troll.
Name a better one. He’s about as good a backup as you’ll find.
Ben Roethlisberger looked pretty good backing Landry Jones. The Eagles should have signed Roethlisberger to be their backup qb.
Correct. Backup QBs are backups for a reason. I’d rather see Sanchez out there than Mike McMahon, Brad Goebel, Jeff Kemp, Pat Ryan, or Ken O’Brien to name a few of the hacks that have been on our field over the years.
rather have Cassell/Weeden? No!
There aren’t enough good QBs so that every franchise can have a good starting QB, where the hell are you finding a better backüp than Sanchez?
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People talk about our late season implosion last year, but that happened with FOles injured and sanchez in the game,.. Sanchez can win a game here or there, but if you let him play long enough, his Flaws will bite you
In case you all want to start prepping for April
http://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php
http://walterfootball.com/draft2016OT.php
http://walterfootball.com/draft2016OG.php
http://walterfootball.com/draft2016C.php
Guys I like
QB:
Goff
Wentz
Kiel
OL
Pocic
Whitehair (I’m gonna do a big 5000 word piece on him in Jan)
Spriggs
Turek
La’Raven
Johnstone
Haeg
Boehm
Trade for Hundley 🙂
:'(
we still have a shot at mariota, right?
I can’t blame Sanchez – The INT was not really his fault – 1) a pass play shouldn’t have been called – all we needed was to keep running and MAYBE settle for a FG, 2) Austin should have caught the pass or at least caught and dropped the ball.
Play call was fine. 2nd and goal from the 9. Run game was rough all second half. We weren’t getting 9 yards, you’re playing TD first with 5 minutes left on the clock.
Bootleg eliminates the possibility of strip sack. Gives the QB a couple of clear options with the ability to tuck it if its there. I have no problem with the thought process or the call.
Sanchez is a vet. He has to know better there. Yes Austin sucked on the play but he has to know better than to force it.
Yeah, this is my thinking too.
If Sanchez was a rookie or 2nd yr player I would be pleased with the way the offense moved and forgive the INT, but he’s not. And if we were down 2 scores and desperately needed a TD I could forgive throwing a risky pass in the EZ, but we weren’t.
if you said give us your prediction when Sanchez goes into the game, you might say he will move the offense well sometimes and move his feet well and have nice moments, but watch out for the killer INT. And boom.
yup
GEAGLE what did you think of the Rousey fight? I only saw highlights but just seemed like she is not ready for a real boxer.
lol I won $800 on that fight, THATS what I thought of it lol
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Stylisticalky speaking Holly was a different type of challenge than anything Ronda had faced, but personally I though Ronda lost the fight at the weigh ins, I wrote about how I was really worried about what I saw. She looked like an emotional mess who was starting to unravel, slurring her wordsmith she didn’t know if she wanted to flip out or breakdown and cry… There were some clues going into this fight that Rondas head may not be right..
1) Her outspoken mother spent months verbally attacking Rondas head trainer Edmond, about how he is clueless and how ronda needs to get away from him
2) Rondas new Boyfriend, HW Travis Browne, whos X wife had a lot to say ripping Ronda because Travis was still marries and because Travis allegedly Beat his ex wife and how being with him made Ronda fake for all her anti domestic violence assualt on Maweather
3) Ronda kept talking about how these girls don’t even understand the pressure of being champ, for the first time it started to weigh on her, and before the fight Ronda announced she would take a long vacation after this
4) wonder if she felt extra pressure worrying about selling out the first UFC stadium show
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Not Only did Ronda seem like an emotional TRAINWRECK at the weigh ins, but her body looked really sloppy, sloppier than I had ever seen it, then when she rehydrated and we saw her the night of the fight, she looked too top heavy, I was joking and calling her Popeye because her arms were too big and chunky..
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Stylistically holly was a challenge different from anything Ronda had faced, and it’s a bad time to go into a fight with so much turmoil, and when the fight started, all my fears were confirmed because Ronda Clealy lacked the mental toughness she was known for. She looked desperate in that fight from the very beginning…
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Great win for Holly, who comes from one of the best training camps, Greg Jackson and striking coach winklejohn are famous for putting together smart game plans, and they had Holly trained perfectky to take advantage of Rondas holes… Ronda usually beats her opponents mentally before the fight starts,and girls lose their minds, bum rush Ronda and get made to look stupid, Holly on the other hand was a boxing and Kickboxing world champion for Years, mentally she wasn’t going to fold like so many other girls do when they find themselves in the cage with Ronda.. Great performance, im haooy I had the balls to bet on Holly
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Ronda will take a long vacation, and I assume an immediate BIG MONEY rematch is in the immediate future… Ronda Clealy needs to listen to her mom, ditch her trainer Edmond Tarverdyan (better boxing trainer than MMa trainer), Ronda needs to stop having special training camps all based around her and Join a real camp, with real pro fighters like Holly HOLMES I training with Greg Jackson, and his stable of killers like Jon Jones who helped Holly a lot in her training for Ronda.
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Great Night, my Girl Joanna Picked apart Laternaeu
so you are saying she trains like Rocky in Rocky III, and she needs to go with Creed to the old school gym?
I hear you on maybe Rhonda wasn’t right mentally, but I guess I am asking a broader question. I’ve read that look, there are only 100-200 women in MMA or whatever, and Rhonda’s image of the best ever is overblown b/c in fact the first real boxer style she fought, she just wasn’t ready for the speed and skill.
So I’m asking, was Rhonda a lot of hype?
No. Ronda is legit…. While Ronda failed miserable against a world class boxer, CLEARLY Ronda wasn’t on her game Saturday night. Would Ronda at her best have beaten Holly? Beats me, I’m sure we will find out in an immediate rematch. After getting Embarressed like that, Im sure we see Ronda at the top of her game next time she faces Holly…. But even if Ronda at her best gets her ass beat again by Holly, it doesn’t take anything away from Ronda. holly is SPECIAL in Her own right, she is basically the Striking version of Ronda, in that she came to the UFC as a highly decorated Champion who has been succeeding in combat sports for a long time.. Even if Holly does that to Ronda again, you won’t find many other woman walking the planet with the Technical world class striking of holly.. Keep in mimd, the last fight Ronda KO’ed Betch Corriera who is also a striker/Hitter like Holly, only difference Holly was light years ahead of Corriera tevhnically speaking… Ronda has had a lot of success against Better strikers, Holly is just a different type of WORLD CLASS striker who mentally, has been in the big championship fights before.
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If they rematch in 6 months, Id still say Ronda would be the favorite going into that fight, she just needs to respect Hollys striking this time, and play to her strengths instead of thinking she has any business striking with Holly… The advantage Ronda has being LIGHTYEARS ahead of all her opponents in grappling, holly has that same advantage in striking,,, fortunately for Ronda, classic Grappler vs Striker usually has gone to the grappler. Next time Ronda will respect Hollys striking, not think she can exchange with her, and work a game plan to close the distance without taking a bunch of damage on her way in, and once you go to the ground with Ronda it’s still her world….you can tell Ronda wasn’t mentally sharp by what happened when the fight went to thr ground, instead of dominating, Ronda rushed, and made some really bonehead, mistakes on the ground, where as usually she is a technical wizard on the ground, she rushed, didn’t secure position, and allowed Holly to get back up… Great Job by Holly, but there are only so many times holly can go to the ground with Ronda without getting herself caught
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Ronda has been too cocky, she stopped fighting To her strength. Started to buy her own hype and go into fights looking to beat her opponents at THEIR strengths, and it worked for her against plenty of girls, but she should have respected Holly more than to think she could beat Holly at her own game.. Word is Ronda trained mostly her boxing for this fight which is stupid. No girl can reach Rondas level of Judo with 6 months of training, so it was hubris on her part to think she could train her hands for 6 months and stand with Holly who was basically the Ronda Rousey of the boxing/kickboxing world… Instead of training to strike against holly next time, I assume she will train to close the distance while minimizing damage she takes on the way in, look to take Holly down, and win on the ground, which is what she should do if she respected her opponent which she failed to do…. Ronda has been doing Judo since a baby, her opponents can’t train for 6 months and reach her level of judo, it was stupid of her to think 6 months of boxing would be able to out strike one of the best female boxers of all time..
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I don’t know what will happen in the rematch, but I do know Ronda is capable of so much more, in so many areas, and when they do fight again, I assume Rinda will be all about trying taje the fight to the ground instead of thinking she could beat holly at her own game
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What’s funny is the loss is crushing to Ronda who was all about her legacy and wanted to retire undefeated.. But Losing to Holly may actually have been better business for Rondas career, had Ronda beat another girl in 30 seconds, eventually the public would get tired of not seeing her tested, but now that she was Knocked out, a rematch with Holly HOLMES becomes a Real BIG MONEY fight, it may even be a bigger fight now than Ronda/Cyborg…
Of course this assumes that Ronda can overcome whatever she is dealing with and even get back to that Level of mental toughness…and that’s not a given,.. Some times a loss, makes it impossible to regain your invincibility that you had before the loss..
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If Ronda gets back to what made her so dominant, she will still be favored to beat any girl in the UFC at this time…. But it’s not a given that she comes back strong from this… Especially when she has so much money now that it’s hard to get back the fire and Hunger that made her so spexial..
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But Ronda is legit, she is no Fraud… You won’t find a woman so respected by male fighters that have trained with her… But if Ronda doesn’t show up at the top of her game, she can lose again. No matter how good you are, a very small margin of error in the Cage.. A girl can close here eyes, and swing a lucky punch that cracks her on the jaw and changes the course of the entire fight… So I hope that until she gets her mental strength back and puts her life back in order, she doesn’t take another fight…. Either get back to your elite level, or go make movies, enjoy your bank account and retire,l
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What I don’t want to see is her showing up for a fight looking like that ever again… Get it together or retire…
You correctly called that upset? From now on, I am going to listen to everything you say.
Just look at every single Ronda rousey weigh in, and then look at this past Friday’s weigh ins, and it was easy to tell that something wasn’t RIGHT on so many different levels…. I actually posted that I was worried she would fail a drug test because of Xanax abuse because of how Horrible her body looked and Behavior was at the weigh ins,
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Rondas mental toughness was a big part of her success, you could easily see the mentally tough Ronda was a mess at Friday’s weigh in, and the way she fought stupid, and fought desperate for the start helps to backüp that claim
Tôugh Loss, apparently we are allergic to reaching above .500 football this year.
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Frustrating that after some solid performances in Dallas, certain position groups refuse to BUILD ON IT:
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You would think that Dennis Kelly and Lame would be beter now that they get continuity of anothet week of practice to get used to playing LT and RT, but NO, they łet average at best pass rushers hand them their ass all day and Tee Off on our QB..
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Nice that we are giving our interior OL some continuity,yet our pro bowl anchor continues to be a mess this year. I don’t know WTF is wrong with Kelce, but hopefully the iis just a down year that he will recover from. His poor play is inexcusable, I have no words for.. All he keeps talking about is how it’s embarressing, how he is ashamed, how he has to do better, Blah blah blah at this point it’s nothing but Lip service. I don’t know what the answer is but KELCE needs to get it together
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We have seen crappy WR play in philly before, but what mIles Austin did yesterday was rock bottom. how can he be THAT bad? It’s a shame because when Braford Wasnt getting killed, it looked like he was on his way to having a great game.. shame on our OL and Coaches for so inadequately pro ting SAM. People are going to talk ahit about how SAM ALWAYS gets hurt, but it didn’t matter who our QB was, if our OL plays like that, we are going to get any QB we stick back there KILLED…
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The Special Teams unit is so frustreating, and it goes further than just not being able to replace Prosinski… Two times this yeàr we had a punt blocked, and we lost both of those games.. We didn’t lose because of a missed FG, but after Sturgis shanked the kick, it all went down hill from there.. Sturgis is annoying, but in fairness I think Dorenbos had a poor snap on that missed FG
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What a frustrating loss… This is why I get nervous when media Jackasses spend all week treating this like its not only an EASY win, but Goubers like Mosher talking about how anything less than a blowout this week would be unacceptable smh… Such a poor understanding of the NFL..
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No one respected this game, everyone talked in terms of “winning the next 3 games” which is foolish and ridiculuos in the NFL, but even more ridicusuous when talking about such an inconsistent eagle team that hasnt been able to get over the hump and get over the .500 mark.. Every time we had a chance to get above 500, we shit the bed….. Worse than the loss is the fact that we failed miserably to protect our QB… At least hopefully now, the people clamoring to bench Bradford for Sanchez put that crap to rest… I can’t believe he threw that INT being too greedy on 1st and goal trying to play the hero. He should have taken the 3yard gain to wide open Celek and used 2nd and 3rd down to get in the ENDZONE… I was really dissapointed in Sanchez this summer when he Failed to show any yeàr two growth in this offense, and yesterday he did what he is known to do, throw turnovers at the end and screw us over..
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I can’t believe how bad we failed to protect SAM. Hopefully he is back in a week or two
OL, WR, QB play, special teams, Maxwell, it goes on and on. It’s always something, and normally it’s 5-10 players that just do something awful/stupid. I’m getting immune to it. I’m fading out a little.
I hear you… I know there is something wrong when I start taking these Horrible losses better than i ever had in the past
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We can’t even enjoy talking about these matchups going into games. Can’t even bother giving predictions which we always do. The team is so damn inconsistent, no idea what we can count on going into any game.
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I thought we would beat miami, but it was a little disturbing to hear all our media talk like anything less than a blowout is unacceptable, and the entire week all you heard was talk about THE NEXT 3 GAMES, instead of respecting NFL opponents, and the fact that there is NOTHING we can hang our hat on. We have no identity, there is nothing we can count on to show consistency… WE HAVENT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH or CONSISTENT ENOUGH to disrespect opponents and act like we should beat a team by 30pts
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All week we talked about how we are going to win the next 3 games, treating them like a cakewalk we could overlook…when in reality, at best we have proven that we are a 500 team.. The hope is that we turn the corner imprve each week and go on a run, which is what we all keep waiting for, but we are so inconsistent that we can’t count on anything from one week to the next
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We are lucky that the Patriots won, it’s great to see Dallas lose again, so we still have a safety net, and all our goals are still attainable, but the HOPE this division gives us is WHATS making this feel like Torture
Absolutely horrendous loss – I think it is becoming clear the Eagles are a mediocre team. As BWest said on the post-game show, the margin for error with this team is so small. They have to play really well in all phases to win; if they continue with the turnovers, penalties, poor OL play, bad play calling and other sloppy plays, they will lose consistently. They are just not good enough to overcome the mistakes even with the soft schedule. Now, Bradford is injured and stuck with no upside Sanchez. Scary
On behalf of Sanchez, he did throw two td passes on that late drive that were screwed up by other players.
Riley “I haven’t caught a pass in a month” Cooper with a bloody formation penalty.
Between him and Austin, I am sick of half-talent WRs who can block. If we want blocking, get some more damn TEs, we’ve already shown they can run short routes and crossing routes as well or better than WRs can.
I’d invite Cooper and Austin to play in our pickup games but no one would choose them.
Well, at least I’ll be getting more done at work this week…
Are you a bartender or therapist for Eagles fans?
As bad as this ugly loss may sting, but besides the Panthers (and to an extend the Cardinals) I can’t see any dominant team in the NFC that plays mistake-free football.
We just MUST win this mediocre division. I can’t remember the last time when a division title was served on a silver plate…?!
See the Colts being gifted like the last 37 division titles, often running the table in their division..
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While our division is a joke, at least we play each other tôugh no matter how much we suck… That Colts division is the crappiest I have ever seen… You will NEVER see a team run the tabke in the NFC east, yet a flawed colts team rarely lose division games the past few years
If they win the division do you think they will win the Super Bowl?
The Mindfuck of it all is how WIDE OPEN the division and the Confrence is
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carolina is easily the top team today, and while I have started to respect them, I don’t fear them at all, even tho we are so average. Would anyone really fear making the playoffs and having to go to Carolina? Our WRs catch balls and good chance we beat the Panthers a few weeks ago, our defense always plays Cam tôugh
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The Packers are a Joke, I used to take shit for talking about how over rated they arem ae that they have become the new PeYTON Manning Colts, one Super Bowl win, spend the rest of your career choking, and falling short of more titles no matter how great of a world beater you look like in the regular season… coming off two losses, the big bad Packwrs lose at home to Lions where GM has been unbeatable. That team is a mess, fire McCarthy..
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Funny how we acted like it was a forgone conclusion that we would beat Miami, Tampa amd Detroit, now we lost to Miami, Detroit just beat GB at home, and Tampa beat Dallas.. An EASY game in the NFL is so RARE..if we don’t play up to our aBility we will find a way to lose to Detroit and Tampa
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Carfinals are good, but we play them tôugh. Seattle Offense is as big of a mess as us, Falcons and Saints are inconsistent. This confrence is so wide open that its a real shame we refuse to step up and seize control of our season.
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I don’t know if we will ever see the NFCS so wide open, and we are pissing away a tremendous opportunity
The Seahawks aren’t making the playoffs. They’re entire line has played at Jason Kelce 2015 level this season.
Will we EVER BUILD ON A WIN? One step forward fighting to get back to 500. Followed by 1’step backwards..,How the Fuck do we once again for like the 3rd time this year, we find ourselves needing to win a game just to get back to .500?
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Lane and his weekly false start penalties
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KELCE is a fucking mess
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Mikes Austin made.James Thrash look amazing..
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dennis Kelly plays well last week, shits the bed against average edge rushers
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sanchez selfishly trying to play the hero while costing us the game
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ST has been killing us this year. Replacing Brad Smith and Prosinski with Couplin and Tutu has been a FAILER!
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I understand why our 2nd round pick with ONLY one year of corner experienve is on the bench, but you can’t fuckin tell me that ROWE can’t play safety as well as Maragos?
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When it was clear that Bradford was gettng Killed, why didn’t we use a TE on each side to help Lane and Dennis?
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Miles Austin was GARBAGE, why the fuck did you keep putting him on the field yesterday? When you see a WR is PLAYING That BAD, why is he in the game? If he isn’t going to help us, take him out of the fucking game, and replace him with a TE who can stay in and help the struggling Tackles.. Yesterday we played 10 vs 11 every time Miles Austin was in the game
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This is why I get furious when we take wins for granted. So much parity, there are no easy wins, and every opponent should be respected.. We are a new team that isn’t good enough yet to just assume we should beat every average team
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How Frustrating,.., now we gotta go into a game against an average opponent and we can’t get excited even if we are lucky enough to beat an average Bucs team, but NOTHING is a bigger kick in the Nuts than having to get ready for the Bucs all week, and NEEDING to win just to get back to 500….
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Thanksgiving is around the corner, and im still talking about trying to get a win to get back to 500? Infuriating….
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Thanks to Tom Brady and the Bucs at least for beating Giants and Tampa
I said it before and I will say it again. The Eagles’ biggest single player disappointment this season has been Kelce. And it’s not even close. He should actually return his paycheck from this game!
The one, small, good thing is that Kelce is the sort of guy who might even do that, or give it to charity.
Terrible game from him AGAIN. I don’t want to see him starting next year, and I don’t think he will.
Who do you think will start?
I don’t know, but I expect to see a change. I’m positive Chip will make a change there.
I don’t think Kelce will be starting next year.
That’s silly
Just my opinion, but this is the 2nd year in a row he has looked bad. He seems to be regressing as time goes on.
If he was willing to part with Foles who regressed in one year, I wouldn’t be surprised by this move.
If he turns it around and figures it out, then he’ll stay. But he’s on a course to lose his job.
Not unheard of to see a great player have a down year in the middle of a bunch of good years..
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More likely we add a quality backüp Center/Guard who can play and puts some pressure on KELCE, and not give up on KELCE, but tightening his leash. With us adding a C that we aren’t afraid to play, I could see KELCE get benched next year if he doesn’t produce where as this year we are letting him try to work yhru everything since the only other Center is Josh Andres who we have no confidence in…. This willl probably be the last year KELCE can be giving the entire year to work thru his issues because there is no one else we can put in the game, expecting KELCE to be cut after his first down year with years left on his contract is something I can’t see happening..
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If we finish the year with an 8-8 dissapointment, while most fans/medias will expect a bunch of other changes, I would expect Chip to think that continuity and development is the answer, not anothet offseason filled with change… For example: I know the WRs suck this year, but I hope fans aren’t getting their hopes up because we won’t see a bunch of new #1 and #2 WR’s. Way more likely that continuing to develope our young WRs is the way chip chooses to go. Id be shocked if Huff, Agholar and Jordan weremt our top WR’s going into next year
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FOles ismt a guy chip gave a 17yr extension to.. KELCE not only wont be getting cut, but he is also going to get first crack at the starting spot… Only difference is I assume he increase the Ceter depth to push KELCE, and so that we can put him on a short leash and hold him accountable and bench him when he doesmt play good which we can’t do now because we have no one else.
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I expect another quiet offseason like 2014 when we only added Jenkins, Braman and Maragos
Our best WR is in his 2nd year and they are having growing pains. I’m not as upset with the young players as I am the older ones (Cooper, Austin).
I wouldn’t be surprised if CK has a draft like last year where he just focuses on one area. Last year it seemed it was the defense, this year I think he looks heavily at offense in the draft. Specifically getting some competition for the OL.
I’m officially worried about Kelce. Last year, I felt he was coming off injury, so when he didn’t look good I just chalked it up to recovering from the hernia. This year, he can’t seem to get out of his own way. Penalties, bad snaps, and just flat out missing assignments.
The whole team is making mental mistakes, but I figured the vets would lead the way to help a lot of the young guys. Kelce just doesn’t seem to be able to do it this year.
Kelce’s not going to get straight up replaced. He’s having an off year, but it’s not so bad that he needs to be moved on from. I imagine they’ll look at Pocic and Tuerk in the draft who can both play multiple positions as well as snap. They may also bring in a priority UDFA.
Hopefully the criminals on the Cowboys further Embarress themselves this week to make me feel a little better
You take pleasure in other’s pain. Pathetic.
your lack of self awareness is stunning
I take pleasure in being right. I am not happy that you are so sad today and butt hurt. I am more happy that I stood up to a bunch of Internet bullies and was right. YOU were wrong. I am smart. You are dumb.
I’m way more stunned at how anyone can read the donkeys comments łet alone respond to the Imbecile
GEAGLE: Another note; You were right about Joanna Jedrzejczyk. Went to a decision, but wow can she fight on her feet. Broke records for leg kicks and significant strikes for a championship fight.
Love her.. Tiny polish destroyer. Wait TIL you see how badly she beat up the former champ to win her title, and how amazing she was in her first title defense.. Saturday was her second title defense. She should hold onto the belt for a few years especially if she beats Claudia Gadhela for a second time in her next fight… joanna is on her way to superstardom
Heres the plan. Throw to Celek three times for 120 yards. Then forget about him the rest of the game. That will teach the other team on how tricky Chip can be. Oh. And you need to keep Sproles off the field, because he draws double coverage.
The Chiefs and Andy Reid are looking good. How would you feel if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this year?
what’s the Chefs record again?
THey just crushed a 7-2 team. The combined record of the Chiefs’ opponent is a shit ton better than the Eagles. Coach Reid would be mopping up this division if he was still here.
if the eagles are gonna keep sucking i’d rather have AR finally win one, but it’s a 0% chance
Kiko Alonso tackled Byron Maxwell on that 43 yard reception that lead to the game winning TD.
At this point, I think I would rather have LeSean over Kiko and Murray. I miss the cuts he would make in the backfield.
Yup Shady is something special. But we got Kiko Alonso! He played in 23 snaps yesterday!
Wrong.
Margos did. Not Kiko.
Sweet narrative though.
This sucks, ’bout to go all Dez Bryant up in here, someone throw some cold water on this meltdown, quick!
Shitty WRs and neglecting and an aging offensive line. I get why DeSean had to go, but why cut Evan Mathis? How come they haven’t drafted an OL in the last two years? How come all of our WRs are slow?
Big people…ah nevermind
Why did DJax have to go?
Because he’s not very good.
you don’t really think he’d be the difference between our terrible season and a good season, do you?
Give me Djax, Mccoy, Maclin, Herremans and Mathis and I gaurantee you this team would be better.
Right, because all of them are doing so well on their other teams. Oh wait…
Mathis alone would make the team better. Just brain dead moves by a guy who thinks he is a genius.
Evan Mathis isn’t hiking the ball. Jason Kelce will not be our starter next year.
yeah Vanderlay is the next one up and he currently holds the NFL record for being cut then resigned by the same team. 16.
nah, can’t get a guard a tackle and a center in one year.
The center is costing us games more than the other two positions. Too many bad snaps yesterday.
I stepped away from the internet after the game yesterday, just needed a break for an afternoon. Someone update me on where we are at in the grieving process.
Anger
Depression is what I’m reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model#Stages
drugs
Josh Huff had his best game of the season. 3 receptions for 23 yards.
He’s just not quick enough to be what Chip Kelly envisioned.
dont forget the td. wrs put togeter combined for 70 of 423 yards. That’s a first, second, and third rounder.
Outside no and he doesn’t run routes well enough/have situational awareness to play the slot WR.
This team doesn’t have an effective WR on the outside right now and it really limits the offense.
20 yard catch called back due to holding.
45 yard PI call drawn.
Hot Stove League is heating up. How many weeks to pitchers & catchers?
Name one personnel move that worked out for Chip Kelly. Just one.
Walter Thurmond, Malcolm Jenkins, Connor Barwin, Zach Ertz, Jordan Hicks. Darren Sproles, Ryan Matthews, Jordan Matthews, Nolan Carroll.
Not saying he’s a great talent evaluator, but he does deserve some credit.
How do you know those were his players?
I don’t. I was just answering your question.
troll is here I’m leaving.
ill leave.
Has anyone spoke of the way we practice? Not just the pace we practice but how we do not correct mistakes made during practice but rather watch the video and then correct them in film study? I think this could be a large reason we are continuing to be an extremely sloppy team.
teams foul when they are getting beat.
rember when i argued back in the summer that chip kelly was a farce and not good. remember how most of you predicted them winning a super bowl after the Preseason. Rememba that?
it sounds like everyone involved in those conversations was guilty of overreaction
If they could get out of their own way, we’d be fine. Lots of bad football being played in the NFC, and the Eagles keep shooting themselves in the foot.
Outside of Carolina, there isn’t one team in the NFC that has been playing great football.
Do you think if we get in the playoffs we will win the Super Bowl?
Anything can happen in the playoffs. Both NYG and the Steelers won the superbowl with average seasons where they were 9-7.
So yes, it’s a possibility.
Well if you think this is a Super Bowl team please sell me some of the drugs you do.
To me, the bigger issue here is what is the plan moving forward? Who’s our QB next year? Are we going to find upgrades at WR or OL? I don’t see any kind of vision. If Bradford is Chip’s guy, why isn’t he signed past this year? Are we gonna be in QB pergatory for the next several years? What’s the deal, Chip?
I think Bradford will be back. I’m positive they do some OL shuffling this offseason. I’m not sure about WR, but I don’t want to see Cooper or Austin next year.
i think you have to keep bradford. he hasn’t shown elite potential but he’s shown he can be better than . . . any other options we can get ahold of. get him an interior OL that doesn’t suck, skill players with . . . skills, and let the D continue to jell (gel?).
Yeah, I think keeping him because he’s been protecting the ball better. 3 games with no turnovers this season.
I think if Kelce stops being Kelce 2015 and goes back to Kelce 2013, we’d be much better off right now. But this is the 2nd season in a row that Kelce has not looked good.
depressingly true.
The problem with wide receiver is that they *have* invested heavily there (a first-rounder, a second-rounder, and a third-rounder in the past two drafts), and it’s one of the most fiscally-inefficient positions at which to pursue free agents.
what I saw yesterday was Bradford being tough, getting smashed back there and standing in. he was looking good I thought, moving well, but taking hits. but once again penalties killed us, always on a TD of course. Sanchez has to wait for cooper to set, that’s his job. sanchez looked really good moving the team, except for not knowing how to handoff but that’s just practice… the INT was him trying to throw a td, Miles should have gotten a hand on the ball, it was on him fast.
celek is still as fast as ever! haha,
Eagles should have won that game, and the giants should have beaten NE.
i’m not worried. I want Bradford to come back, he was just starting to get it going the last few weeks, but he was getting crushed all day.
sanchez can beat Tampa and everyone else on our schedule except NE.
and we better be able to beat the skins next time. come on, small victories form here out.
Here’s your Sam Bradford stat of the day. He’s made 18 career starts where a win puts his team above .500. His record? 2-16.
I can’t blame Bradford for yesterday. I thought he got no help.
Receiving yards by position for Eagles today:
TEs 202, RBs 114, WRs 76.
Chiefs-type numbers
I feel like we have this discussion once every 3 games or so, but I don’t want to see anymore Austin or Cooper.
Because someone on this board keeps bringing him up.
https://twitter.com/taoish/status/666312219651497984
yeah but Maclin’s uh . . . oh he’s not doing much either?
you really think ANY of these receivers are better than DJAx or Maclin? Which one? Which three?
no i certainly don’t, but they look like junk too, so i don’t see how you can credibly claim we’d be better off.
DJax is so good, they are cutting him at the end of this year.
How do you know what they are doing? Talk about facts not what you make up.
You know facts.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=4659&line=321953&spln=1
That is a fantasy headline. Are you fukcing serious kid? You just sent me fantasy news.
Click on the Washington Post link. I thought you’d know that. But here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/20/redskins-mailbag-on-kirk-cousinss-ticking-clock-and-jay-grudens-coaching/
This mother fucker thinks facts come from fantasy.
how we gonna stop them skins?
geez.
yeah but he opens so much more for the offense.
Yes, because he’s played so much this season. Oh that’s right, he’s about to get cut at the end of the year.
If you don’t think Desean Jackson opens up the defense then explain to me how Redskins suddenly put up 42 points.
47, 34, 49
This is the amount of points the Saints defense has given up over the last 3 weeks. Everyone is putting numbers on the Saints like that.
Amusingly we’re still half a game out of first in the division. I’ll have to laugh if after all this slop that we’re passing off as professional football we end up in the playoffs.
Over/Under for Sanchize picks next Sunday: 4
I’ll take the over if more than 10% of his passes are for Miles Austin.
way over
under with a win
I am recording this. Bucs are on the up and up. They are going to beat the Eagles.
so who cares what you do?
this loss was definitely on me, guys. i used a purple lighter yesterday. jinxed the whole damn thing
So once the season is over can we all play a big game of I told you so? We can compare notes about which moves we thought were bollocks in the offseason when they happened and whoever scores the highest gets to be nominated for new Eagles GM.
yeah can’t wait to see who thought keeping kelce was a good move.
oh, everyone? ok
What good moves has the Genius Chip Kelly made? ANY? I can’t think of a single off season move that in hindsight looks good. Not a single one.
Walter Thurmond?
a journeyman is the best move. That’s really stretching.
oh i get it. you’re the troll.
If signing a journeyman with all the roster turonver on this team this last preseason is the best move and I am not even sure it is a good move then those other moves were REALLY bad. REALLY REALLY bad.
but were they REALLY REALLY . . . REALLY bad? bradford was a good move, even though some “fans” can’t handle the idea of gradual improvement over the course of a season. mathews was a great move. maclin wasn’t a “move” as we plain got outbid. mccoy was an ok move and i’d love to see evidence that our run game would be better with him than mathews. but let’s get to the meat of the subject – you aren’t sure Thurmond has been a good move? can’t you see why everyone thinks you’re unthinkingly negative?
Bradford was good? Foles is actually playing next week and he is 11 million cheaper and we would still have a second rounder. Bradford was a bad move and I am not sure how you think not. He is bad.
Foles is holding his new team back. I think you should try again.
He is actually PLAYING next week. HE IS PLAYING. Sam Bradford is not. If you were coaching next week who would you start?
Oh, a concussion and now it’s a bad trade. When McCoy didn’t play for like 4 weeks, does that mean Buffalo got the bad end of that deal? See by your logic that means it was a bad deal.
Thanks for contradicting yourself bud.
McCoy has played a lot more than Kiko Alonso. And McCoy’s stats puts Matthews and Murray’ stats combined to shame.
Lesean Mccoy – 528 yards rushing
Murray – 451 yards rushing
Mathews – 427 yards rushing
878 > 528.
But I guess counting isn’t your strong suit.
What about TDs and recieving yards you dumbass.
Lesean Mccoy – 2 TDs & 177 yards receiving
Murray – 4 TDs & 268 yards receiving
Mathews – 5 TDs & 119 yards receiving
Wanna try again?
He has better stats then both of them. Am I missing something:?
Really?
4 > 2 268 > 177
he’s not even better than murray
Man I can’t argue with you if you think Murray is better than Lesean McCoy. I just cant. Maybe we can find some rankings on the internet.
only if you’re “feeling lucky” again
Yes, stats won’t support your argument, so now we just resort to ignoring everything.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingYards
Best I could find.
Leseasn #16
Demarco #22
Mathews #23
Ahhh, but you were just talking about stats earlier. I guess since that doesn’t support your argument, you have to find “rankings” based on what?
LOL, you’re a joke.
Based on yard rushing. You know, what running backs do.
Umm, I just gave you the stats and Murray and Mathews have more rushing yards.
Nope not according to ESPN.
You said Mccoy is better than Murray and Mathews combined. I was on ESPN’s site and it supports the same data I gave you.
You’re changing the goal posts again. First, McCoy is better than both Murray and Mathews combined. That didn’t work, so then it was receiving yards and TDs. That didn’t work, now it’s just rushing yards between McCoy and Murray.
I know being wrong is tough, but I guess if you keep changing the argument, you’ll be right eventually.
16 < 22+23
quite a few things
Even if Bradford didnt get hurt it was still a HORRIBLE trade. Bradford sucks. He is no where near worth 13 million a second rounder AND a starting QB. That was a horrible trade.
who cares if he’s playing? he’s been terrible. the St Lou press and fans are complaining about the trade constantly
http://sports.live.stltoday.com/Event/Rams_chat_with_Jim_Thomas_f12090b610c8?Page=0
oh no not one blogger
my god man you said the press and fans are complaining about it. That was from the Im’ Feeling Lucky button on google.
interesting because a normal google search shows the results i posted above . . . in order
you dont know hgow to use google you dumb ass.
Apparently you don’t.
Here you go:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nick+foles+rams
what page on google did you have to get to for that, by the way? because if you type in Nick Foles rams on my search engine, here are the top listings:
Nick Foles under fire after St. Louis Rams lose to Chicago Bears 37-13
Aaron Donald up, Nick Foles, Greg Robinson down for Rams in loss
Rams need to consider struggling Nick Foles might not be the answer
Nick Foles looks to bounce back for St. Louis Rams after bye …
Nick Foles Doesn’t Look Like Rams’ Answer at QB After …
Should the St. Louis Rams Consider Benching Nick Foles …
You type in St. Louis press foles trade opinion then hit “Im Feeling Lucky” you dumb bastard.
i always wondered what kind of tool uses the “i’m feeling lucky” button. now i know.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nick+foles+rams
why would you feel lucky?
they don’t want him playing though
Actually he just got benched for Case Keenum.
Well he is right. Matter of fact, they have a pretty good defense based on the moves he made. But you know, I guess it doesn’t fit your narrative so you ignore any positive things.
They have a good defense? really?
Explain why they aren’t.
They aren’t winning. This defense is not good. Did you see the TDs yesterday? This defense IS NOT GOOD>.
Sigh. So by your logic every defense is a bad defense because they got scored on. Holding a team to 20 points when they have short field on several possessions is a pretty good deal. Oh and they got a safety as well.
So yeah, you’re not making any sense. They are 2nd in the league in forcing turnovers. They are around 12th in scoring. They held Miami to under 300 yards total offense.
Stop being silly.
They lost the game. They couldnt stop the Dolphins from scoring. How is that good?
They lose.
wish we had lead foot still at qb, said no one ever.
Your lol worthy PFF OL grades form yesterday:
Lane Johnson -4.3
Matt Tobin -6.7
Dennis Kelly +0.6
ouch, have kelce’s number?
No, I’m not a premium member or anything. I just took it from the game review.
The fuck? That can’t be real.
Dennis Kelly was getting destroyed, how did he end up with a positive grade?
Edit: Shouldn’t it be an automatic 5 point deduction for getting your starting QB knocked out of the game?
That’s exactly what I asked them in the comments for the review.
Dennis Kelly had a strip as well as two fumble recoveries. He saved it from being a blowout.
So I don’t know about you guys but I’m still processing the loss yesterday. I don’t think I’ll have a big lengthy post summarizing my thoughts or anything because frankly that would be too depressing, but I will say this much: I won’t try to say that as a community we need to feel this way or that way about Chip Kelly, but for me personally, I hated when Chip took over personnel and, now more than halfway through the season, I’m still not liking it and feel like his feet should be held to the fire a little bit about it. He wanted absolute control about how to shape the roster and honestly I don’t think he’s done a good job of it.
The question now for me is where do things go from here? Does Chip try to go for roster churn again next year? Does he have enough “Chip guys” on the roster now? How does he fix this moving forward? My guess is he’ll go for more roster churn, which I think is a very unsound strategy for building a team. We’ll see though.
He will leave for USC.
Before we pile on the CK isn’t doing a good job at GM, lets remember that everyone that left isn’t exactly setting the world on fire on their new teams. Djax was okay last year, but most of his yards came against Fletcher and Williams. It’s better to get rid of someone a year early than a year late.
The defense is much better this year. For the first time since 1992, the offense had 150+ yards rushing in 4 straight games.
The issues this year are not due to his GM moves. Kelce for the 2nd straight year has been not good. Peters is finally starting to break down and now can’t be counted on to help this team.
The only mistake may have been letting Maclin walk, but no one else that has left is really making a difference for this team.
The only bad move was Maclin? Bradford trade was good? Kiko Alonso who has played like 10 snaps this year was a good move? You drink too much koolaide. This team is NOT good whatsoever and these are all Chip guys.
I worry we are only going to see the real effects of Kelly’s GMing down the road when he’s done destroying the excellent salary cap position Howie Roseman left him.
Only mistake was letting Maclin walk? You may not feel that way next offseason when we are speculating about who we could have drafted with the 2nd round pick that went to St Louis for Sam Bradford.
I still like the Bradford trade. He’s been getting better weekly, and most importantly he’s protecting the football these last few games.
ck – gotta put our guys in better situations to make plays
Eagles scored 7 special teams TDs and blocked 4 punts in 2014. They’re at 1 and 0 in 2015. Had 2 of their own punts blocked too.
The Eagles were 7-2 in 2014 at this point. In 2015 they are 4-5
doesn’t help them that their KR unit is clearly being told to never take a kick out of the end zone either. Maybe it’s something they’re aware of
The starting quarterback for the Eagles has started all 16 games one time in the last 12 seasons.
Ewww.
2008 – not sure if this is what you’re referencing.
https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/666326887959019520
Yeah but McNabb averaged 13.6 GS/Year from 2000-09 and started all 16 GS in 4 years.
Bad to the bad-old days of when they had Peete/Detmer/Hoying – all QBs who are at best marginal starters. Pretty much Bradford/Sanchez right now.
Foles had one good year and Vick had some good stretches around his mediocrity too.
Caleb Sturgis’s 5th missed kick in 7 games.
cody and caleb ruined this season!
and Austin, and kelce, but aside form that….
Chip Kelly ruined this season.
Good. I’m glad he did for you.
Are you happy with this season and CHip Kelly’s performance as coach and GM?
Yup.
listen Howie, don’t you have anything else to do but troll blogs about the guy who took your job.
because you suck too
hey, its tampa week! aww yeah !!!
Lets go Sanchez! lets go Demarco, we are true underdogs.
time to root for the team.
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46975&d=1397179973
If you are happy with Chip Kelly’s performance as GM and Coach this season, then you need some more of this :
http://www.jawnville.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Chip_koolaid.jpg
I prefer the red koolaid. Just because you’re not happy doesn’t mean you get the right to say I can’t be happy.
If you are happy with this team and you could explain why exactly you are happy, then I think that will make a lot of other people feel better as well.
I still think they are moving in the right direction. Bradford has improved every week. The defense is top 10 in the league. Besides the 1st Dallas game, they’ve been competitive in all their losses. The mistakes are fixable.
The only thing worrying me is Kelce. Everything else can be fixed.
Can be fixed this year?
We’ll find out.
http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/09/andy-reid-kool-aid.jpg
Is it time to start wondering if Miles Austin is still working for Dallas?
Peyton manning has torn Plantar Fascia in his left foot…
I have to think he hangs the cleats up this year. Loved his career, but he’s starting to break down.
he’s broken down.
True. He doesn’t seem to have the arm strength this year, and I thought it was his shoulder. Now it seems that there’s more there than I thought.
Irrational and mindless anger today including the inevitable ‘Fire Kelly’ chants.
Philly press was quite angsty during the press conference today.
Fire Kelly! CHIP MUST GO! HE Destroyed this Franchise. Ray Didinger even said it!
this great franchise?
the lone nfc east team with no superbowls is destroyed? por favor, somebody has to try drastic shit to make something happen. it is Chip
yeah drastic shit that is so dumb. Like trade for a fragile quarterback and have a horrible offensive line to protect him.
trade away a fragile QB for a guy that could be good, yeah whatever, who cares what you think BTW?
Foles was fragile too you silly joke. How many full seasons did he finish?
Yeah Foles has started more games that Bradford this year.
There was actually a thread on the EMB last night that said we needed to dump Chip now & replace him with Matt Patricia.
Let that sink in for a minute.
It’s their job to ask the hard questions. Considering how the season has gone, I think it’s fair that they are holding his feet to the fire a little bit.
Cooper and Austin making $7M this year. ‘Great Heist’ in South Philly this year.
Cooper is way over paid and Austin is on vet min?
I thought Austin was getting either a million or two.
In other news – this is interesting because I can tell you everyone here at the university would love this (I work here).
https://twitter.com/SportsRadioWIP/status/666336711278899201
I always thought he got off a bit easily because of what happened with the Penn St program and his son.
He is an opportunistic as any coach I have seen including only staying at Penn St for this 2nd year because he didn’t get a pro head coaching job. While he publicly stating how much he loved Penn St and how he was staying for the 2nd year he was aggressively jockeying for a pro coaching gig.
Now just 2 years in he is now looking at going back to college because he is encountering some difficulty. O’Brien isn’t that much different from a number of other coaches but he just has largely avoided the same criticisms.
Yeah, he’s struggling in Houston and now wants to jet.
that would be really cool. Why though for the love of God would he do that?
same reason Nick Saban left ‘Phins for Tide
but expectations will be lower
Under Armor money has the potential to turn the program into Oregon East.
It’s not a bad job. DMV produces enough talent to be relevant if you just win in your backyard. Low expectations to start. Not sure how the facilities are, but once again Under Armor money. You could essentially take a historically blah program and be a perennial top 10 within 5 years.
If he wanted to be a college coach he wouldn’t have left PSU. I get that they were hit hard by sanctions, but that is temporary. This is the case of a school that has past ties to a coach or a coach who is from an area, being “linked” to a job. All it really means is the school would love to have the coach, not that the coach actually gives a F. Just like Charlie Strong being “linked” to Miami. Its not as good a job as texas. Recruiting is similar. Facilities are worlds ahead at UT and the Lonestar Network makes UT tons of cash. Not trying to attack you, its just some of these reports are silly.
I don’t think it’s outlandish to think BOB gets fired.
Ok, I wasn’t thinking of that angle. Seemed like guys were saying he’s looking for a way out. I guess he could be putting feelers out in case he gets canned
BOBs an offensive coach and they can’t do anything on offense. The win tonight probably bought him enough good will, but there is a very realistic chance that Chip wins more games in this up and down season than BOB does in his first two years combined.
I guess I just think if you were going back to college, he’d have better offers than Maryland
I guess I personally just don’t rate him as good enough or having done enough for the USC/Texas/top 10 job type openings. I think Miami would be a weird fit.
I don’t know that Mizzou, South Carolina or Va Tech are really that much better jobs.
Pros: Great money, Low expectations to start, recruiting hotbed, build-a-power potential
Cons: Michigan St, Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan are all in your division.
Yeah I see him as closer to those top jobs than to the Maryland caliber openings. Shoot, he could be an NFL OC before taking a middling college job.
And I do think the S Carolina and Va Tech are better jobs. Just my opinion. Only way MD is more desirable is if you wanted to build a program. Tech has played for national titles and at least SC can say they are in the best conference in the NCAA. MD has nothing but Under Armor money, and that hasn’t produced much to date.
The facilities are nice but not great. I’ve been in there and thought they were amazing… Until a buddy of mine just took a job at A&M. They are really meh in comparison. Basketball is nicer imo. They built Comcast when they were in the ACC though.
The problem is that historically we can’t get local talent. Right after they fired Edsal Diggs’ younger brother committed somewhere else.
If Chip Kelly leaves for college football next season, would you prefer that Lurie hires another coach from NCAA or an assistant from the NFL?
shut up dumbass, no one cares, don’t try
why so you can cry about the new coach instead?
Honestly, I would like to hear your vision for how things should play out between now and next May. No snark, no hiding behind snide comments, no deflecting attention with insults or vulgarities, just lay out for us what should happen.
Chip fired. New England coordinator hired.
Right bc that’s worked out so well for everyone
That is it? Keep all the players? Leave Howie in janitorial supply detail? Replace the entire staff?
Oh, and which coordinator?
Yup that’s it
Lol! Where do you go when the Eagles win? Haha what a good joke.
Zach Berman
@ZBerm
Riley Cooper and Miles Austin combined for 97 snaps. Zero catches.
7:31 AM – 16 Nov 2015
yeah and 1 INT, 1 called back TD, and other things
Makes you almost long for Small and Johnson.
yeah I don’t long for a small or johnson
I have to say the Cooper has become my least favorite Eagles’ player in a while.
Not any particular reason or deficiency. Just annoys me especially because I get the impression he is kind of a dope and lacks much situational awareness or context.
I’m never one to dislike Eagles players. I have hoped he would get cut for so long. I remember sarcastically joking in a post before his contract year that he would actually get himself paid and then go back into obscurity.
I think the thing that bothered me most early was that it just seems like he thinks he is actually really good. He just seemed to lack humility….when in fact he was horrible. Then of course he made a racist tirade. Has seemed a little more low key since.
He just strikes me as the dumb, redneck jock who actually ticks off a bunch of boxes under those stereotypes.
This seems relevant since it came across my feed.
https://twitter.com/MattLombardo975/status/666340970955411457
who?
Corey Washington.
didn’t sign
I loved this picture to this tweet:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CT9QYwCWEAAcebA.jpg:large
but Cooper blocked for the run game like Jerry Rice played WR
Zero is actually generous. It should be -3.
https://twitter.com/PHSportsGoddess/status/666340721155293184
THey just beat a 7-2 team. That’s not good?
They’re 4-5. If you’re okay that they are 4-5, then you should be okay that the Eagles are 4-5.
Howie loves Andy
If the Eagles lost to the caliber teams the Chiefs lost to then I wouldn’t be so hard on them. But the Eagles are losing to garbage teams.
Name one team on this schedule the Eagles would beat :
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=chiefs+schedule
How do you know they can’t beat any of those teams?
a loss is a loss
your only argument is that Reid loses to better teams?
no because reasons
Reid inherited a talented roster and has proceeded to make the team irrelevant year after year.
You should pay attention. THe Chiefs are playing well.
they are losing more than winning
Not in the last five weeks
newsflash!
the season is finishing week 10
Actually past seven weeks
and Kelly inherited no talent? is that what you’re saying?
Kelly inherited Reid’s mess
Rappaport Rappaporting that Bradford will miss at least 2 games
Sprained AC Joint,.. The REAL Problem is the Timing, game Sumday, and short week having to play thanksgiving… He may have been ready to play two sundays from yesterday, but Next Thursday may be too soon..
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Then again, 10 days may not even be enough to get over the concussion.
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Sanchez really Fucked us yesterday! He owes us one, and it shouldn’t be TOO MUCH to ask the Sanchize to win a game at home against Tampa,and then do what he did on Thanksgiving last year against a Detroit defense that isn’t anything special… chip announced that Bradford will be his starting QB as soon as he is healthy, so Hopefully Sanchez redeems himself, gets us these two wins, with Bradford being ready to go for the Patriots game… Unless we view that as a loss and opt to rest SAM one more week which I doubt… I actually feel more confident that we show up and play well on the road against Undefeated Patriots, Than I trust us to show up and play well at home against Tampa which is pretty Sad… I just trust this team to step up in the face of fear to get blown out, Than I trust us to show up against Teams Everyone says we should beat.
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I was so happy when CSN fired Geoff Mosher, but that Guber is even worse now that he is on the radio. He spent all last week talkingabout how just beating the Dolphins wasn’t good enough and anything short of a big blow out was unacceptable. Heck, this entire city is guilty of abandoning the 1 game at a time method After the dallas game and startng talking about winning the NEXT THREE games as a forgone conclusion.. Shame on us, in reality up to this point as have performed like an 8-8 team, we aren’t good enough to not be excited over wins, and assume we will beat every team without an Impressive record.. If we don’t Treat Every game like its the patriots game we aren’t good enough to overlook teams an win.
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Today, we aren’t good enough to take wins for granted, and we aren’t good enough to think we can just show up and beat anyone
“I was so happy when CSN fired Geoff Mosher”
pretty harsh.
That’s actually not as bad as it looked when it happened.
Sanchez for thanksgiving again! yes!!!!
he is only second in my list of favorite holiday game performances by a backup QB. #1 is Jeff Garcia against Dallas in 07 “Merry Christmas Philadelphia”
Great memory. What’s he doing these days. Kick the tires! Maybe another former Jet in Vinny Testaverti (sp??)
believe he is coaching in the Canadian League….I’ve heard he would like to coach in the NFL and i think he does work with some NFL QB’s in the offseason
I had to look it up, but it turns out he is an Asst Coach with the Rams. He’s working with Nick Foles.
he was pretty good last year
he was awesome, I think he wins it
Text from my old college roommate who is a Jets’ fan:
‘You have been Sanchezed!’
so i wasn’t able to see the first quarter because i’m out of market and this team isn’t worth the price of a sports bar. first time i checked the score, it was 16-3 and i thought YES! chip’s going for two every time! no kicking. man that would have been sweet.
I used to go to sports bars to catch Eagles games too. The last time I clearly remember doing so was awhile ago. It was the game we were up 24-something to the Giants. We were dominating in the trenches. I smiled and told the lady next to me that we were going to win. She was a long-time Eagles fan, and shook her head superstitiously. All I remember from that point on was the succession of 10 yard passes Eli completed until we lost. …Or, same season, I think, when the Bucs hit a 90 yard field goal to win and also having a rookie QB… good times.
i think 2012 killed my ability to enjoy the eagles in public in the heart of WAS-team country. but the absolute WORST, and i remember it like it was yesterday, was the day i wore my mcnabb jersey and he got benched against the ravens. that was a LONG walk home.
I was bartending at a Ravens bar that day, wearing my Westbrook jersey. I never heard the end of it.
I repeat: A game that shall live in infamy.
on the other hand, i was at the sports bar for vick’s starship #7 beatdown of the skins AND 44-6, so maybe i need to remember the good times as well
ooo I was actually at that one with my (then) girlfriend who was a Skins fan. It was great.
A game that shall live in infamy.
should watch it live streamed like I do
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I do not care how slow he is. Celek has dependable hands, can truck defenders, and can work as an in-line blocker. Ertz is L.J. Smith 2.0.
Ertz isn’t living up to the hype yet for sure, but LJ Smith went to bed every night wishing his hands were as good as Ertz’s are. And I’m not saying Ertz is amazing.
PFF grades
Zach Ertz +5.0
Mark Sanchez +1.1
Josh Huff +1.0
Worst
Matt Tobin -6.7
Lane Johnson -4.3
Sam Bradford -2.6
Brent Celek -2.6
Miles Austin -2.4
Thats generous for Austin
Best
Fletcher Cox +4.9
Malcolm Jenkins +3.7
Walter Thurmond +2.9
Cedric Thornton +2.7
Bennie Logan +2.6
Vinny Curry +2.3
Connor Barwin +2.1
Brandon Graham +1.5
I really wish Jenk had picked that pass off at the gaoline
Worst
DeMeco Ryans -1.7
Chris Maragos -1.5
E.J. Biggers -1.2
My son is almost 13 and is a die-hard Eagles fan. After the loss yesterday, he asked me if I thought the Eagles would ever win a Super Bowl in my lifetime. He then pondered and said, “I wonder if they’ll ever win a Super Bowl in my lifetime?”
I’ll gripe until they do.
Enjoy the hell out of the parade when they do.
Then demand another 6 so we can hold it over the Steelers.
it sucks and all, but i think of it like this – if they ever win one, I’ll be there for the first one. What Packers or Steelers fan can say that?
Drinks will be on me… probably my son, too, as he’ll be legal by then.
How is your health?
I just read that Rotoworld has deemed Nick Foles as the worst qb in the NFL. I guess we traded our train wreck and got their car accident. They got our 2nd round pick, but then signed our old guy to a new contract. How is it possible to have a trade of assets and both parties lose?
St. Louis also had one of the most quarterback unfriendly situations in the NFL, with a terrible pass blocking OL and one of the worst receiving cores in the NFL.
That being said, Nick was never good enough to elevate a passing game on his own, but in the confines of Chip’s systems, he might have been good enough to make a difference. Or maybe not.
That’s a pretty fair assessment. He managed them to wins over the Seahawks and the Cardinals too.
If Foles somehow gets cut this offseason, would you bring him back as a backup on a smaller contract?
I miss Jamal Jackson in the middle but disagree on Kelce. You have to take advantage of his strengths and mask the weakness with schemes. But. Almost the same with JJ, who wasn’t going to play in space much.
Of course, that was with Andy and he drafted a lot of OL.
Kelce, ypu give him help on Suh and get the guards on him. Then peel off Kelce to take on a Lb. Or zone block.
Tough draw. But. Philly, ny, Dallas all lost. So, th3 still have a shot to get it together
believe me when I say I’m just as frustrated as every eagle fan, but im frustrated for different reason than most.
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I actually am still very happy with most of this season’s roster addittions and think most of all our first years Eagles best football is still ahead of them. A kid who is giving us nothing like Huff drives me crazy, but I still think he can become a nice player for us, even first time Eagles exceeding my expectation like Thurmond I think his best days as an eagle are still ahead of us…I’m not Frustratted by the Roster moves, but this is why I was so pissed off that chip chose to rebuild in year 3. I didn’t feel like dealing with these growing pains… Just look at the difference in Eagles and Cardinals, both coaches in year 3, chip decided to overhaul his offense going into this year, while Arians decided to continue to build on what he built his first two years, consequently Cardinals are having their best year of the arians regime,and we are dealing with growing pains opting to take two steps back in hopes we take 5 steps forward.. This is exactly why I was so against Chip rebuilding in year 3, so while this year is driving me crazy like all our fans, im still very high on the rebuilding job chip did this past offseason, I just think it will take more time Til we reap some rewards.
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While most people think this is a mess and we have to add a bunch of new talent. I think it’s more important that we develop the talent we Do have because so many plays are capable of more than we are consistently getting.. I don’t think we will a bunch of new starters, I think It’s more likely we continue to upgrade depth. For Example, while some fans want KELCE replaced, I think it’s more likely that we see chip add a quality backüp center to put pressure on KELCE, and while I expect KELCE to still be given first crack at the starting center spot, upgrading backüp Center with real talent allows us to start holding KELCE accountable and tighten his leash next season to where he will be benched if he doesn’t produce, where as we have no one to bench him for right now…
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Maybe we draft a WR in rounds 4 or 5, but I expect Huff, AGHOLAR and Jordan to go into the season as our Startimg WRs because developing them is more important than replacing them. Why go thru these growing pains with the amd then not develope them? Plenty untapped potential to get out of them
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Assume we draft an OL or two, but not neccessarily start new OL next year
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f this season ended today, my expectation would be That more continuity, further building on the new team he put together last year, while upgrading our depth and emphasis on player development is how chip would chose to go about the next Offseasn. I would be very surprised to see another offseason like last year with so many drastic changes, my expectation is more of a quiet offseason like 2014 with only a few changes building on all the 2013 changes. Another quiet offseason like 2014 when we added 1 starter,Malcom Jenkins, and made a few depth additions, Nolan, Maragos and Braman. We will NEVER be the team we want to be making drastic changes every single offseason. just look around the NFL:
Ron Rivera and the Panthers have been building that team for like 5 years
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Brady/Bellicheat together forever..
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marvin Lewis had like 12 years to finally build what they are today
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Aarom Rodgers, McMarthy and an entire roster of homegrown players a few weeks ago were talked about as the road going thru GB.
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last year, after Jason Garrett had 4,5 years with the same QB the Cowboys finally had a winning season
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bruce Arians and the Cardinals have been building for 3 years..
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Steeler/Tomlin/Rothlisberget been building this for years
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The ONLY first yeàr coach wita a top team is kubiac and he Inheritted a top playpff team that had been together for years with a QB who is also an offensive coordinator
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Look at these teams, most are having success building on what we saw last year. We aren’t seeing any of these teams coming off a drastic reshaping of the offense trying to incorporate new QB, new RB, new Guards, young WRs like we are seeing…. And NEEDING to continue to gel, Develope and grow ismt just some excuse for poor play, that also goes for young players we are happy with. For example, young beasts like Bennie and Hifks should be even better next year. First year stud safety WalterThurmond should reach new heights next year after a year of improvement.. A lot of the BAD can improve, Amd a lot of the Good can grow into GREAT… Because chip chose to basically rebuild last year, I have to look at it like we are laying our foundation this year, and we will build on it next year… I doubt chip would make all those changes, quit on them after a year,make a bunch of new changes and have to again go thru the growing pains…
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Expect a quiet offseason,adding to our depth, developing the talemt we have. And hopefully some “Depth” ends up taking starters spot like we saw with jordan Hivks this year.. Still plenty of footballlevt left to play and a lot can happen.. Because I expect a quiet offseasn building on this new foundation chip is laying (going thru these growing pains) , Im hoping we get to see some serious growth and improvement these next 7 games so a quiet offseason will be easier for our fans to understand. if Chip were to rebuild AGAIN, I would want to fire him because I would then think he is clueless.. But with all the changes, I can understand if deep down chip expected this rebuilding year because the team we had was maxed out.. But whether it’s a talented kid who is struggling like AGHOLAR, or a player we are thrilled with like Thurmond or Hicks, continuity IMO will provide us with better players…
you listed the teams coached by Belichick, Arians, Marvin Lewis, Garrett, McCarthy, Tomlin, and Rivera have been building for 3+ years.
all of them (except new england) have GMs with final say who aren’t the coach.
not a terrible point, unfortunately
Fair point, but not one that concerns me because I guess Im in the minority that’s excited about the job Chip THE GM has done this past offseason,and the NEXT Time we have a playoff team to root for, I expect it to be made up of most the players who are already Eagles today. I believe there are a lot of players on this team today that we will see go on to play at a higher level than we have seen so far. I think most of our key additions are capable of more and have a higher ceiling they can still grow into. I liked most of the free agents we added, and he drafted a lot of players I believe in, so for me, I like the job Chip the GM has done, and Im waiting for Chip the coach to do his part and grow into a team that will validate the GM moves.
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I LIKED the majority of the moves, my BEEF was that rebuilding would require growing pains and an initaial step backwards… Surprise surprise welcome to the first half of our season… So if that was my expectation, then Im waiting for Chip the coach to do his part… Unfortunately building takes time, understanding this is why I was so aggrivated my chips decision to rebuild in year 3… But if he didn’t have the power to build how he saw fit in 2013, than how can I complain about ch finally wamting to build with HIS GUYS. So while a year 3 rebuld of the offense frustrates the crap out of me, I understand it, and im happy we did it now instead of wasting more time on a team chip viewed had a limited ceiling,,,since that decision he has added players I like, I believe in, who’s best football I don’t THNK we have seen yet, That’s a job for the coach, not the GM..
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What we saw the first half of this tumultuos season IMO is nothing more than the foundation. the beginning stage of the Chip/Marynowitz led Eagles. We have a lot more player growth and development to do, and we still have more gelling to do..and of course we hope Chip the GM continues to build on it the next two years.. But if you look at the top NFL teams, you won’t find any with a new QB, two new RBs, 3 unproven WRs in their first year and a half, two new Guards, who is now playing with a new LT and backüp RT… You just don’t see Top teams with all those new faces being counted on offense… As if that’s not enough to deal with, we are also dealing with A backüp Kicker which is hard considering the parity and thin margin between winning and losing..
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We need MANY positions to improve, but I think a lot of the improvement will come from players who chip already has on this team. Of course there will be some positions that need to be improved by adding talent..
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But players NEEDING to improve isn’t just an excuse for positions that are playing bad. Even many of our successful players I think can reasonably be expected to improve. take Walter Thurmond, the guy has been a godsend, but as great as he has been, no way I believe that we saw the best he is capable while playing his first 6 career games at safety. As awesome as he has been, I assume that with another half season of experience playing Safety, and an offseason training to play safety that we will see an even more improved walter Thurmond… We have a lot of young players with potential that still has to be realized, and we have veterans that can still grow in tbis new scheme, playing with new teammates…
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I’m more pleased with Chip the GM, than I am with Chip the coach at this poïnt in the season, but I do think a coach needs more than 8 games with a new group to be able to expect him to have a top team.
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Coaches like Marvin Lewis, Ron Rivera, Bruce Arians have been building for years towards the success that they Are enjoying this year. I was curious to see how much more chip could build on last years team with another offseason, but he obviously felt that teams season wasn’t high enough, so he rebuild the offense and allocated more assets into building the defense.. Whether you agreed with the year 3 rebuild or not, you do need more than a half of season before you can take a team with so much change and expect to be able to hold It to the top teams that have been meticulously built the past 3 to 5 years…
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Hindsight, should have given chip the power sooner in hopes of not wasting two years before deciding to rebuild with his guys.. But now that we are here we need to give Chip the coach some time. Half a season with a brand new offense isn’t enough. You BUILD winners, not assemble winners overnight..
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I was against this, I didn’t feel like going thru the growing pains all over again, and needing to be patient with developing WRs, or free agent players needing to get comfortabke in our schemes,,, but now that we are here, need to be realistic about it.. Amd realistically today we aren’t a good team. We are an 8-8 team, that still lacks consistency.. Can we grow into more and salvage this season? I sure hope so, but to really consistently beat the best, we have a ton of growing to do, And upgrading positions whether it’s by improving players we already have, or adding new personnel…
You aren’t the only one. Even when we were losing I was beating the drum to stop bashing Chip the GM. People see some struggles and immediately make a judgment on the entire body of work.
I don’t disagree. I still like a lot of our pieces. Dumb boneheaded mistakes are why we’ve lost 4 of our games. There’s a lot of talent to be developed, and I still think this is a good team as constructed. I really love the way Sammy B has improved, and I thought he still had room to get better.
Yeah, I am a bit down on Kelce, but you’re right about competition. It’ll def force him to play better. I will never doubt CK, because when he sees a problem he goes out and fixes it. The way I see it, there’s two glaring issues: drops and consistent OL play. Drops aren’t a talent issue. They are going to have to just play through it and figure it out. Though Austin and Cooper I think are liabilities. But that’s a different issue. The OL is maddening. They play a great game vs. Dallas, then crap the bed vs. Miami.
So it’s been bugging me for a while, but does it bother anyone else that we build this whole offense around YAC, we consistently target receivers 3 yards short of the sticks on 3rd/4th and hope they can get the rest of the way on their own. Also we only throw to uncontested receivers.
So why the big receivers? Sure if you got a gun slinger philosophy you run a big receiver 20-40 yards down field and have them go and get a contested ball for a big play. But that is anathema to what we do. Do dynamic play makers (smaller electric guys) not fit what we do better in the passing game? Ok they need to block so they have to be big. Ok then you need to be willing to use their size in the passing game. Use the catch radius, take risks. Go for the big plays. Way too much finesse in the passing game, and it reeks of fear of turnovers or lack of faith in the QB.
The way we use our passing game just seems incongruent with our personnel.
Bradford has always played that way.
True. It’s just frustrating. You combine that kind of passing game with a heavy dose of running the ball and…yeesh. Anything less than perfect execution is destined to break down at some point as we dink or dunk down field. Methodically driving down field consistently, chewing up snaps, wearing down the defense, is something only the most dominant of offenses can pull off. We aren’t that. We need to have explosive plays to generate scoring opportunities.
bah, ending the rant.
Thought was built off RAC where they catch the ball n run make yards compared to YAC where ball is thrown n those yards are counted.. Or am i imagining things?? lol
So maybe now we can put the rest that Chip made a bad trade.
https://twitter.com/STLouisRams/status/666391188648366080
Rams still got the greatest thing of value in the trade which is the second round pick…if it was a straight swap no one would really complain
SB has higher upside than Foles, so I’m not upset about the 2nd rounder. Gotta pay a bit to get a look.
had not has
you’re so smart snatchy
It’s a case of the had’s vs the has not’s.
It was a bad trade because we traded their car crash for our plane crash …. and threw away a 2nd round pick
SB hasn’t been playing the last few games like he needed to be benched. I still don’t think he’s a wreck and will be good moving forward. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him since the Carolina game.
Yeah… you are right. And I think he played well enough for us to win against Carolina. We had guys dropping 1st downs and TDs every chance they got.
Sam has been paying better
I just want that 2nd round pick back. I still believe we need to draft a QB this draft.
If it makes you feel any better, we have Detroit’s 3rd rounder and it looks like it’ll be top 10 at this rate.
Don’t we have two 4th round picks too
We have an extra 3 (Lions), 5 (boykin), 7 (barkley)
We have enough draft ammo to do anything we want to do, except trade into top 5, which the second rounder wasn’t going to let us do anyways.
I think sam could possibly get it done if he gets a lot of help.
I feel bad for Nicky Flash.
they gave up a second rounder
this sucks. I like Nick
We gave up a second round pick for a sack of dog crap. It was a bad trade.
you don’t think bradfords been playing well?
that’s weird, since he has
it’s ok they stopped watching after the first dallas game
Or, if they continued to watch, it was only to find confirmation for the memes to which they chose to subscribe.
I know I’m in the minority, but I like Sammy B.
I like him too just not on the Eagles.
He hasn’t been bad lately but I don’t think he’ll ever win us a Superbowl.
they get the second rounder, but we get our QB’s money off the books next year…that is if he’s not in future plans (i think he is). Rams are into Foles for 8 million on the cap next season
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/666401244131520512/photo/1
sounds like it’s meeting everyone else’s expectations though.
Under the radar news.
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/666383207823200256
is there a radar that goes that low?
Not really. He was a non developmental PS player.
There is one way to ease the pain of this loss, beat Tampa, Detroit and go to New England and upset the Patriots.
BWHAHAHAHAH
Make what makes you think we beat Tampa or Detroit?
Rumored earlier in the day, but Rob Ryan is officially out in NO.
Just was about to post this. It’s way past time IMO.
HEY SNATCH MASTER http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/16/rams-bench-nick-foles-will-start-case-keenum/
Let’s see if we hit the 1000 comments mark before ‘good day’ rolls around…
A title is worth 1,000 comments.
I’m thinking we are going to have to slow down if we are setting ‘good day’ as the finish line.
Tipped pass to Landry won the game. The big man upstairs is not an Eagles fan.
I still cannot believe that miracle catch. That was the second in as many weeks after Dez caught that ‘Hail Mary’ against us.
Or what about Jenkins holds on that pick instead of dropping it?! Coulda. Woulda. Shoulda.
I think all those stalled drives won the Dolphins the game. And throw in a blocked punt that set them up to score. Or Miles Austin not getting his feet down. Or Miles Austin letting a TD pass sail right by his face. Or the OL opening season on the QB…
We are a horrible team that lost to a bad team
who’s upstairs?
Andy Reid’s crazy uncle?
Poor Nick. There was a time, not to long ago, when besting Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck would have secured your job, not cost it.
“His 75.9 passer rating is the third-worst among starting quarterbacks, ahead of only Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/16/rams-bench-nick-foles-will-start-case-keenum/
how the mighty have fallen.
guys got a jersey in Canton
Losing Mathews is a bigger loss than Bradford at this point. Still waiting for Murray to have one of those breakout performances and at this point I don’t think we’ll see it this year. Sproles has also been very quiet and MIA in the offense.
Bradford’s been coming on, both are big losses. if we used Mathews more i’d agree more.
They moved the ball with Sanchez yesterday. Just had a brutal miscue.
They did last year and despite the ‘Bradford has been playing better’ theme since the Boys game I just don’t see a big difference between the two. Sanchez is able to get the ball out faster and make the bootlegs/rollouts a bit more credible to his mobility. Bradford has a better arm on the intermediate routes with a bit more throwing power. Neither are downfield threats nor have a ton of mobility. Bradford’s supposed accuracy hasn’t materialized either this year.
Mathews has been incredibly productive this year and their only option who was effective outside the tackles.
Sanchez looked good coming on. Just needs to calm down a little. Looked too jacked up n excited. Can see the tempo pick up when he was on also the RO element too. A lot of yards if he kept it.
His arm looked good too
I agree. His sleeves really highlight his biceps.
they’re getting real nervous in cinci