Riding the Wave

Posted: October 1st, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 400 Comments »

Winning gets you noticed. Winning in dominant fashion and with a rookie QB gets you a lot of attention. Most of it is going to be good, but there are always those doubters, so sure they see flaws instead of strengths.

Carson Wentz is a hot button topic right now. Bart Scott called him fool’s gold prior to the Steelers game. Scott then had to change his mind. I don’t find Scott to be a compelling analyst so his opinion, either way, doesn’t mean anything to me. I have no issues with someone who has some doubts in regard to Wentz. He is only a rookie and we’re just 3 games into his career. Wentz could turn out to be the next Bobby Hoying or the next Tom Brady. We don’t know what the future holds.

All I ask of analysts is that they are fair and reasonable.

Wentz has been terrific this year. He has been accurate with his throws. He hasn’t turned the ball over. He has managed the game well, which can be especially tough for a rookie. You don’t see wasted timeouts and confused players on the field. Wentz is running the show and and getting his guys lined up where they need to be. Last week we saw him start to make plays. He ran for 10 yards on one play. He got outside the pocket and made the play to Darren Sproles for the 73-yard TD.

Wentz is playing well, rookie status aside. This is the best QB play the Eagles have had since Nick Foles in 2013, and might be better than even that. Foles got a ton of help from his supporting cast and the Chip Kelly Factor. You might have to go back to Michael Vick in 2010 to find QB play like this. While Wentz is good, let’s keep a bit of perspective. He’s not Top 5 in yards, TDs, rating, completion percentage or yards per attempt. Lions fans should be just as excited by the play of Matt Stafford as Eagles fans are with Wentz.

It feels great to finally have a young, franchise QB in place. That is the foundation of the entire organization. You either have a QB or you don’t. The Eagles do.

And right now Wentz is undefeated and has yet to throw a pick. He has made a combination of the right decisions and the right plays to get this team off to a great start. Enjoy the good times. This is the NFL and we know there will be some bad games. At some point, Wentz will throw an INT, miss a wide open receiver at a key moment or make a bonehead decision that hurts the team. That’s just reality. Joe Montana did it. Tom Brady has done it. Even Bubby Brister did it.

The naysayers will come out in force when that bad game does happen. “I told you Wentz isn’t good at _____________ .” Try not to go crazy. Wentz is a really good young player and looks like the real deal. Enjoy the stud QB. Don’t get caught up some criticism.

I bring this up because we already saw a bit of this. One of the Football Outsiders writers had some negative comments about Wentz and the Eagles offense. The Dink n’ Dunk label was thrown out there. Jimmy Bama responded in his own creative way. That led to a lot of back and forth between Eagles fans/writers and analytics people. In the end, I don’t think any opinions changed. But Jimmy did have a good time.

I have watched every play of Wentz’s young career and I can tell you he’s unlike any rookie QB I’ve ever seen. That doesn’t mean he’s the best or is headed to the Hall of Fame. It means he’s off to a great start and has a very bright future. Honestly, I’m glad we don’t know how things will turn out. The journey is more fun than the destination and we’re about to ride a really interesting wave with Wentz. We don’t know how long it will last or where it will go. It just feels like something pretty special.

*****

In my recent PE.com piece I compared this Eagles team to some other teams. There isn’t an Eagles team that feels quite like this one. Some of you did mention the 2004 Steelers as a comparison and that is pretty good.

PIT was 6-10 in 2003. That got them high in the draft and they took Ben Roethlisberger. They added some solid free agents as well. They also added Dick LeBeau as their DC. An injury to Tommy Maddox early in the year put Big Ben on the field earlier than expected. Ben went 13-0 as a starter and the team was 15-1 overall. They had the #1 defense in the league. You can see where there is some resemblance to this point.

At the same time, that team had Bill Cowher as coach and there was a lot of overall stability. The 2016 Eagles have a rookie HC and QB. That’s part of what makes the 3-0 start so unusual.

In the end, none of this matters. This team is creating their own story and doing a great job of that.

400 Comments on “Riding the Wave”

1 Riding the Wave - said at 8:51 PM on October 1st, 2016:
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2 Media Mike said at 8:54 PM on October 1st, 2016:
“That led to a lot of back and forth between Eagles fans/writers and analytics people.”
Analytics people are a joke, trade in fiction, obfuscate their methods, and could take the joy out of a winning lottery ticket.
3 daveH said at 8:59 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Sat night in big city reading tommy lawlor eh?i think i just walked past your ‘hood.. madison park..nomad area ??
4 Media Mike said at 8:59 PM on October 1st, 2016:
what?
5 Dave said at 9:01 PM on October 1st, 2016:
http://image.slidesharecdn.com/5mustreaddataandanalyticsquotes-130719060001-phpapp02/95/5-must-read-data-analytics-quotes-6-638.jpg?cb=1374321155
6 ChoTime said at 9:13 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Agreed. But what does an opinion without any kind of evidence reveal?
7 Media Mike said at 9:16 PM on October 1st, 2016:
60 minutes of game tape is often the best evidence one needs. Plus when these d-bag denigrate things that matter by calling them “counting stats”, it enrages me.
8 ChoTime said at 9:21 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I disagree, game tape (especially all-22) is part of the whole of evaluating a player. Lots of players look good but are actually not really helping the team. Fans NEVER pick up on it unless they analyze the numbers. Note that I am not saying Wentz is not helping the team. He’s playing great and _no one_ is disputing that!
The numbers are essential for helping overcome the perceptual biases we all have. They also can serve, at least, as something better than–is too, is not, is too, is not!
9 Media Mike said at 9:26 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Those numbers and important as context for sure, but need to be secondary in nature to the actual act of playing the game.
Any my complaint is not with indisputable numbers such as completion %, QB rating, yards, TD passes, INTs, etc. rather with attempts to skew legitimate numbers by using mumbo jumbo invented formulas that are as accurate as what one would have generated using a roll of the dice.
10 Dave said at 9:46 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Statistics are wonderful in baseball where there are no hidden variables. They also have their place in football. However, without knowing the play call, read progressions, discussions in the huddle, checks at the line of scrimmage, and other possible variables, many modern analytics are based on educated guesses within the formulas.
11 Media Mike said at 9:48 PM on October 1st, 2016:
But even in baseball, the analytic type stats are useless. I’ve yet to see anybody with a game with a WAR.
12 Dave said at 9:52 PM on October 1st, 2016:
They’re either used by the team for determining contracts, free agency acquisitions, trades and draft picks or used by fans and the media as after-the-fact fodder on whose great and who sucks.
13 Gary Barnes said at 8:09 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Totally disagree. WAR helps explain the value of each player and thus their production. Watching the game can lead to many false conclusions as human eyes are very flawed judges: we see what we want to see and what reinforces our previous conclusions in many cases.
14 ChoTime said at 1:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I have a bigger problem with the numbers you cite. Why? Because what do they really show you?
Bad QBs can, and often do, have high completion % by throwing to RBs. Good QBs might have lower completion % because they’re taking more challenging shots that lead to scores.
Good QBs might throw lots of interceptions if their team sucks and they are always playing catch up. Bad QBs who screw over their team sometimes end up with lots of yards because they are throwing a lot, trying to make up for mistakes they made.
The advanced stats try to take these things in context.
An 8 yard pass is great if you only need 8 yards. A 14 yard pass when you need 15 is still a failure, and it doesn’t show skill–the defense gave it to you. A 100% completion rate on RB dumpoffs on 3rd and 10 shows no skill.
The decent advanced stats aren’t random, and they’re way better than TV announcers or average fan posts.
15 laeagle said at 9:40 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I think the biggest problem is when you take either without the other. For example, from a pure numbers perspective, Wentz is only “dinking and dunking”. But that’s not the quarterback I see play. I see a guy taking shots, with receivers occasionally missing. Do the stats take into account attempts? If not, that’s indicative of the problem with stats in general. “YOU ARE THE TALLEST PERSON EVER” if I’m measuring your ankles only. Most statistical analysis can be given additional context or meaning when you fold in the things that aren’t measured, and unfortunately, you can’t always measure everything at the same time, or at the very least, there’s a limit on the number of data axes you can measure simultaneously. I think a lot of statistical analysis ends up looking like someone trying to work their way through a 3d world using a line graph.
16 Dave said at 9:56 PM on October 1st, 2016:
They also don’t take into account “taking what the defense gives you” approach that good coaches take. If the underneath stuff is open for an easy 4 yards per play, you take it. If you have 1 on 1 coverage on a deep out, then you take the chance. Dink and dunk is better than throwing the deep ball into double coverage. Statistics also don’t take into account guys like ODB, Julio Jones, Dex, Megatron, etc. It’s much easier to throw deep passes when you feel your receiver is always going to come down with it over multiple defenders.
17 laeagle said at 9:59 PM on October 1st, 2016:
NO. YOU GO FOR THE BOMB ON EVERY PLAY NO MATTER WHAT THE DEFENSE GIVES YOU OR THE COACH CALLS BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU ARE A BAD QUARTERBACK
18 A Roy said at 10:44 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I think YAK really matters. You can throw a 10 yard pass off target enough that the receiver gets no YAK or you can throw a 5 yd pass perfectly to allow the receiver to get an additional 10. Statistics can be meaningless sometimes. Except for Big Tuna’s ultimate stat.
19 Media Mike said at 6:33 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
In a related story, Wilt Chamberlain once tried to pick up a women in the airport as was telling her that he was the tallest man in the world. Kareem Abdul Jabbar happened to a walk right by as Wilt was laying down that line.
20 Gary Barnes said at 8:12 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
The bigger flaw is with the theory dink & dunk is a bad approach to offense. As long as a team is moving the ball, getting 1st downs and eventually scoring points dink & dunk can be very effective. It minimizes turnovers etc. Instead of faulting stats or game watchers, the theory itself should be challenged.
21 laeagle said at 9:36 PM on October 1st, 2016:
But, let’s be honest about the meter we’re using for rating these folks. Yours kind already comes “in the red”, straight from the factory.
22 Media Mike said at 9:39 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Immaterial of whatever “Yours kind” is, these people are scam artists of the highest degree.
23 Media Mike said at 8:58 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I don’t know what nationality “Kacsmar” is, but I think it translates to “dude who I hope gets punched in the face.”
Kempski clowned that loser.
Thank you for the link Tommy.
24 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:04 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Check list for tomorrow:
Go 49ers! You owe us Chip.
Go Vikings! Sammie you own the Giants.
Go Cleveland! You suck, but we still love you.
(Reposted as I have an uncanny ability to post right before Tommy puts up a new thread.)
25 ChoTime said at 9:26 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I think criticizing Wentz at this point is ridiculous, but the Kempski-Kacsmar exchange was hardly illuminating. The numbers Kacsmar referred to are correct–Wentz is throwing mostly short passes. It IS a dink-and-dunk offense. You add up the total and divide by the number of passes… this is the number you get.
Yes, Wentz has also shown the ability to throw deep too, which is great! It doesn’t change that the average passes are shorter than that of the other QBs in the league. Lots of great offenses have been built around short passes with the occasional scoring shot.
Look at the chart I posted earlier showing “air yards.” I see no correlation between how far they throw and how good the QB is.
26 Media Mike said at 9:29 PM on October 1st, 2016:
“Look at the chart I posted earlier showing “air yards.” I see no correlation between how far they throw and how good the QB is.”
Cho’s use of that stat; correct.
Kacsmar, if you read through his tweets, was using that stat to denigrate Wentz and/or short throws. That’s clearly out of line.
27 rls255 said at 9:54 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Agreed. Analytics has its use (although I think less in football vs baseball or even basketball) but football is the ultimate team sport and has more parody than mlb or nba.
28 CrackSammich said at 2:14 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Parity.
29 rls255 said at 10:27 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
whoops
30 ChoTime said at 12:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yet possibly true, irregardless.
31 CrackSammich said at 3:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Regardless.
32 ChoTime said at 4:01 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Really? You wound me, my friend.
33 Anders said at 3:20 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
He also writes for FO who has Wentz 5th and 4th best QB in their own two stats
34 Media Mike said at 6:14 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
They might want to reconsider his employment status.
35 BlindChow said at 9:05 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Kacsmar was vocally critical of Wentz pre-draft, so now that Wentz is looking like a real QB, he’s desperately looking for ways to validate his previous opinion rather than admit he might have been wrong.
36 bill said at 12:06 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
It’s a problem throughout society. Someone takes an intro to statistics class, or becomes a black belt, and thinks that every measurement imparts knowledge. We need MUCH better science education in this country, because it’s clear that many otherwise well-educated people have no concept of the scientific method, or how real science is really done. Creationists do better work than many of these wannabe moneyballers.
37 ChoTime said at 12:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
haters gonna hate.
38 Duracell said at 11:02 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I think the difference is that Wentz has shown he can make all the throws, and is quite able to throw accurate intermediate and deep balls when it is the right play. Many dink and dunk quarterbacks play that way out of necessity, but I don’t see that with Carson.
39 ChoTime said at 12:50 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I don’t even know how you can tell. Here is the infamous chart:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/quarterbacks-and-progression-air-yards
This article is completely inoffensive and I don’t see why anyone would think it’s denigrating Wentz. I don’t tweet, so maybe there is more to it. I saw that Kacsmar admitted he doesn’t like dink and dunk. I say, who cares, but secondarily, _DVOA (the stat used by the site Kacsmar writes for) favors dink and dunk_. This has been a consistent complaint, since it was founded by a Patriots fan when Brady was having so much success with this style. It may also be part of the reason why the Eagles under Reid were always near the top of their stat. Although it could just be that those were usually two of the best teams during that era, too.
As you can see, Sam Bradford is a dinker. Yet he has a great arm. So does Stafford. Brady is pretty low on air yards, but he sure was slinging it fine when Randy Moss was on the team. Scroll up the list and you’ll see Russell Wilson, sometimes thought of as a “point guard,” has a high air-yards.
And again, I see great QBs all over the place here. Maybe not at the very bottom, as I don’t think Bradford or Alex Smith are great.
It’s just 3 games, anyway. The main thing is that Wentz is being extremely effective at the game plan. It’s not like the other teams aren’t trying to stop him!
40 D3FB said at 1:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
AYA and Points aren’t correlated, so it’s kind of a shitty stat.
41 SteveH said at 10:03 PM on October 1st, 2016:
The biggest difference between the 2004 Steelers/Roethlisberger and the 2016 Eagles/Wentz is that the Eagles will win the super bowl, where as the Steelers did not. Key distinction there.
42 EJ said at 10:08 PM on October 1st, 2016:
Personally, I don’t care about outside opinions of Wentz. But what bother me about people labelling him a dink and dunk QB is, it might stick for a while, even when he’s not. It’s not fair to him.
43 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:07 PM on October 1st, 2016:
https://gfycat.com/QuickLoathsomeCranefly
44 Nailed It! said at 11:09 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I don’t know if anyone is watching the Louisville Clemson game but although it has been sloppy with turnovers, two players who are absolute monsters are Lamar Jackson (everyone already knew that) and Boulware the LB for Clemson dude has been all over the field. Is Boulware NFL quality?
45 Media Mike said at 6:17 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Jackson had several “monstrous” turnovers. Also took too many sacks by not understanding what was going on in front of him. He had more rushing attempts than completions; that’s a joke.
Boulware was killing it, I agree.
46 D3FB said at 1:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Question with Boulware is athleticism. I haven’t watched any tape on him yet but early in his career he would flash on stuff inside the box and get crushed in coverage.
47 Jesús M Hernández said at 11:17 PM on October 1st, 2016:
I’ve been a fan of Kacsmar since his early days as @captaincomeback o twitter. I can say I really like most of his analysis but I think he is missing the point with Wentz.
Hope he isn’t as stubborn as he has been with other cases once Wentz keeps his level of play during the season.
48 Lee Bruce said at 12:14 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
The whole point of the WC offense is short passes with lots of YAC.
Also, the Eagles own the top spot for time of possession. The Eagles are playing good, ball-control offense. If anyone thinks this is a bad strategy, they should look at the W column and try again.
Go Eagles!
49 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 12:54 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Who starts when Johnson gets suspended?
50 BlindChow said at 12:58 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
They’re just going to leave that spot empty in his honor.
51 bentheimmigrant said at 5:09 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Brooks will reach over and poor out a Gatorade before the first snap.
52 Media Mike said at 6:18 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’d assume Barbre, who gets “Doll” dropped from his name for the time being due to his acceptable play at guard for the first 3 games, at RT and Wis at LG. Seumalo hasn’t really been up for getting any reps so far. Hopefully that changes.
53 GaEagle1023 - Tom said at 8:23 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
“You either have a QB or you don’t. The Eagles do.”
BOOYAH
54 SteveH said at 9:45 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Feels so empty, no game today.
55 Ark87 said at 9:53 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
I started out being ok with the bye week, like “yes we get to ride the feel train for 2 weeks guaranteed”
But right about now I’m hating the Bye week
56 SteveH said at 10:03 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Success is like a drug, you need another hit. Also, why are the Colts always so bad even though they have their franchise QB? That offensive line is a war crime.
57 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:11 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Bad owner. Bad management. Bad coach.
Their saving grace is that the division is awful.
58 HawaiianEagle said at 10:21 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Is it just me? Pagano always looks like he’s one bad play away from breaking into tears and losing it.
59 SteveH said at 10:23 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Remember that trick play vs. New England last year?
Well here’s a reminder. Possibly the worst play in history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrtzpdH_uPM
60 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:28 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
And watching this game, apart from TY Hilton, they have no one who can catch the ball.
61 Bert's Bells said at 12:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’m out of the country this weekend, so awesome for me. Thanks NFL!
62 SteveH said at 10:29 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Nice to see the NFL shipping a shit product overseas. The Colts all have butter on their hands and the Jaguars are the Jaguars.
63 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:33 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
I was just wondering, have we ever sent London a “good” game?
64 SteveH said at 10:38 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
I think the Pats went overseas one year, I can’t remember the quality of the game but at least it was a quality team.
65 HawaiianEagle said at 11:30 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Blow out
66 SteveH said at 11:34 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Gus Bradley maybe saving himself from an early season firing right now.
67 HawaiianEagle said at 11:48 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Too emulate many “it’s just the Colts”.
68 Bob Brewer said at 12:31 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Chuck Pagano on the other hand may not make it through the bye week.
69 BlindChow said at 2:28 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I think they gave him an extension earlier this year. I bet they’re regretting it now…
70 CrackSammich said at 11:56 AM on October 2nd, 2016:
Colts line up in the last play before the 3rd quarter ended. Two receivers out left. 1 CB. They run the ball.
Now is this Luck not being aware of it, or him not being allowed to audible? Either way, glad it appears Wentz would have seen that.
71 A_T_G said at 12:30 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Watching this London game, these are two QBs that Wentz was hoped to develop into.
He looks much better than Bortles.
I know Luck is playing behind a shit OL, but I think someone from the outside would have trouble identifying which is the raw project and which is the most highly touted prospect in a generation.
72 HawaiianEagle said at 12:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
MAN jax SUX… Win or lose, embarrassing.
73 Julescat said at 12:54 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
every year a coach in the London game gets fired.
who is it this year?
74 HawaiianEagle said at 12:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I want to see Howie debate Chip instead of Trump/Clinton…
75 A_T_G said at 12:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Is it too late to get Howie into the Whitehouse? He could trade American Samoa and a future Aleutian Island that hasn’t surfaced yet for Cuba and rights to the Antarctic land mass.
76 HawaiianEagle said at 12:50 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Swartz Secretary of Defense…
77 A_T_G said at 12:50 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Fipp as CIA chief.
78 HawaiianEagle said at 12:51 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Caitlin Jenner first lady…
79 A_T_G said at 12:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I was thinking Megan Fox.
80 HawaiianEagle said at 12:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Well, so was Howie probably
81 CrackSammich said at 12:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
At least something interesting happened in this game, but for real. That was terrible.
82 CrackSammich said at 12:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Couldn’t throw in a heavy set or some play action to even pretend it wasn’t going to be a throw?
83 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:31 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Okay. Here we go Browns. Big comeback time.
84 PacificPurl said at 1:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Ryan leading Belichik 13-0 in the 2nd.
85 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:54 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
?? On the scoreboard Tennessee has 4 points. Two safeties or a grand slam?
86 PacificPurl said at 2:00 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Strange where the mind wanders when watching teams we don’t much care about. The Patriots have a player named Hightower. Former All Pro Buffalo Bill player Bubba Smith played a character named Hightower in the Police Academy movies. I need more coffee.
87 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:23 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Which coach is most likely to be the first one canned this year? I asked this 3 weeks ago and the consensus then was Fisher, who has won 2 in a row since and has his team in first place at 2-1.
A) Rex Ryan, Entertaining but lousy coach
B) Chuck Pagano, Has one of best QBs in NFL, still can’t win diddly-poo.
C) Gus Bradley, The wheels on the bus come off, come off.
D) John Fox, Seriously, he’s still coaching?
E) Jeff Fisher, Now in 21st year of failing to develop a QB. Has learned nothing.
F) Mike McCoy, who?
G) Jay Gruden, Its still a Dan Snyder team. Hope he hires Chip Kelly next.
H) Other – who then?
88 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I would say Pagano if the GM Grigson ISNT just as deserving of being fired if not more..
89 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I have the Giants and Cowboys losing out right and the Browns getting 8 points (DIDNT have the balls to take them out right)… Seeing the Browns beat the skins would be awesome,
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Terrell Pryior is a beast. Makes me so mad that we worked him out a couple times but chip refused to sigń him… Unlike Tebow, he was willing to play other positions, and now that He has had some time to learn the WR positon, he is becoming a big problem for opposing corners, lighting up Josh Norman
90 A_T_G said at 2:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Who was the former player with the ugly jacket on the CBS halftime show?
91 scratcherk said at 2:44 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Tommy forget to pay the server bill earlier? Couldnt get on the site.
92 SteveH said at 2:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Oh this is glorious, the Redskins are struggling with the Browns.
93 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Parkey perfect.
94 scratcherk said at 2:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
So much for Belicheck playing with trash, Brissett looks bad
95 SteveH said at 2:54 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’m more surprised the Bills offense is doing so well, the Pats always smush the Bills at home.
96 ChoTime said at 4:00 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Injured thumb, 3rd string QB.
97 Media Mike said at 4:03 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
*RB
98 SteveH said at 2:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Oh my god this is so good, this is too good to be true, the Browns are taking it to the Washington team.
99 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:01 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
The best part is its happening in front of Washingtons fans… How do you łet the Browns come into your house and do this to you? Smh sorry ass skins
100 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:57 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
If the Falcons win today, do we have to start taking them seriously?
101 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:00 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Their offense certainly seems legit, but I don’t know if they have the horses on defense to sustain this level of success. Then again, the Panthers are struggling, so I guess they are to be taken serious as contenders To win their divison… Im not a big Matt Ryan fan but he has been pretty damn good this year
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The saints are a joke and I don’t know how good the Bucs are
102 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Cousins should have to give the skins some money back if he manages to lose to Cleveland.
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He got himself paid because he beat all the bad teams. Still hasn’t beaten any legit Playoff caliber team, and now he is risk of losing to the Browns? Lol that would Make my day.
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Our Defensive line would murder this Washington OL
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How can you manage to possibly lose to the Browns playing in front of your fans like this?
103 SteveH said at 3:00 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
What the hell is wrong with the Panthers?
104 DJH said at 3:02 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
And Benjamin in particular. 2 games where he’s done nothing. Injured?
105 SteveH said at 3:02 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Julio Jones has 216 yards receiving right now. Think they miss Josh Norman?
106 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Kurt Coleman pick 6, annoys me that he actually been pretty solid for the Pathers after sucking for us
107 SteveH said at 3:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
omg these announcers… “the Browns are starting to build something special here.” Just omg. If my eyes could roll right out of their sockets…
108 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I left something special at the bottom of the toilet bowl this morning. Same color, too.
109 SteveH said at 3:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Meanwhile Detroit is struggling mightily with the Bears mash unit. Lots of sad sack games this week.
110 SteveH said at 3:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I thought Kessler was down for a moment, who the hell would be up at QB for the Browns if Kessler goes? Pryor?
111 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:08 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Compton down with an injury. Skins LB corp ISNT any good to begin with, they can’t afford to be losing starting LB’s.
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They are already playing without their starting Center, lost safety DEangelo Hall for the season, Breeland is banged up. Think they are also playing with a backup Guard.
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Our TE’s and RB vs skins Safeties and LB can cause a lot of problems for the skins in the passing game…. Giants LB and Safeties should also struggle to match up against us
112 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:09 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Kerrigan went down with an elbow injury earlier in the game, too. Don’t think he’s back and haven’t heard an update.
113 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:10 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Oh Really? If that’s a serious injury, they are in big trouble
114 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yep. He went back in the locker room, but haven’t heard the status update. Helps explain why they’re making Crowell look like Marshawn Lynch.
115 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:09 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Wow the skins really łet Crowell get that first down? How many Tackles can you miss on one play? LOL
116 SteveH said at 3:09 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
OMG the Washteam is EMBARRASSING themselves out there! This game is awesome!
117 SteveH said at 3:10 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
that’s right Carolina, you’re down 21 late in the third, you better keep running Fozzy Whitaker. lol.
118 Media Mike said at 3:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
They’re trash.
119 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
And the Browns gonna Brown.
120 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Wow the Browns remind us why they are the Browns
121 SteveH said at 3:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
First carry of the season, last carry of the season.
122 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
So riduculous… They had all the momentum and were about to build a 10 point lead and they blow it like that? That was too IMPORTANT to łet ANYONE other than Crowell get the carry.
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Hue Jackson’s belongs as coach of the Browns
123 scratcherk said at 3:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Browns brown it
124 scratcherk said at 3:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Brissett getting destroyed.
125 SteveH said at 3:15 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Detroit is letting Brian Hoyer throw it all over them, I can’t wait for us to get them coming off a bye.
126 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:23 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
if I had to bet on the Eagles beating one non division opponent the rest of the year Id take them to beat the Lions because of how we match up against them and the fact that they embarressed us last year. especially if Ziggy Ansah is still out while Lane gets to play…. levy might miss the game too.
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The Only match up that concerns me in that game is the big play ability of Marvin Jones/Stafford.
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We have some really good, proud defenders who got embarressed last year by this Lions team.
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4-0 sounds pretty sweet
127 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:27 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I can’t stand Hue Jackson. Can’t do anything right..
128 CrackSammich said at 3:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Browns… sigh.
129 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
More Browns doing brown things.
130 Media Mike said at 3:38 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
LOL @ Scam Newton and the gimmick Panthers being exposed. No amount of garbage yards / TDs from Newton / Benjamin can save them for the brutalization they deserve.
131 DJH said at 3:41 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
What did my fantasy team ever do to you?
132 Media Mike said at 3:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Benjamin is a great fantasy player, but 100% is a garbage stat king. He’s vastly overrated.
133 PacificPurl said at 3:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Russell Wilson. Too short. But has never missed a practice or game. Playing with ankle and knee injuries. Has completed passes to 7 different guys so far today. With an unsettled offensive line. Sherman got beat 3 times by Marshall. Dump him. He’s trash. Fire the coach. Second half, Sherman makes INT. Seahawks score. Jimmy Graham- last year. Trash. Dump him. Fire the coach. Graham makes several outstanding catch today. Christine Michael. Dumped 3 times. Brought him back. Fire the coach.Grew up. Almost replacing Lynch. Outstanding. Brought in CJ Spiller. Fire the coach. Spiller has a TD today. Good thing they don’t play in Philadelphia.
134 Media Mike said at 3:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
If you dislike Philadelphia so much……………….
135 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Hue Jackson is a dope. Crowell dominates skins every time he runs, yet Every time Hue takes him out of the game, some other RB fumbles the ball away and bails this pathetic skins defense out… What a joke Hue has proved to be. He was lucky that the clock stopped and Crowell was able to get a breather, and Hue still took him out the game so his backüp could proceed to fumble the ball away for the second drive in a row… If you are going to take Crowell out of the game THROW THE DAMN BALL. And stop letting anyone other than Crowell carry the ball you dope! The skins are practically begging the Browns to beat them
136 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Josh Norman is the ONLY healthy starting DB playing in this game.. How about Hue Jackson calls up plays attacking Any DB besides Norman?
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Broughton, Craven, Breeland, Hall are all out of the game, so why is Hue throwing at the one starting DB on the feild?
137 PacificPurl said at 3:47 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Buffalo shutting out Belichik. 4th quarter.
138 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Im gonna die laughing if the silly Bills carry Rex off the feild and act like they won the Super Bowl. Hoping it happens, I need a good laugh after watching a Browns game
139 ChoTime said at 5:21 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=17695430
140 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:47 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
The Browns and Hue Jackson deserve each other. Two peas in a dysfunctional Pod
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Skins are begging the Browns to beat them, and Cleveland turns the ball over 3 drives in a row… Im done. Shame on me for having any hope of this pathetic franchise stealing a win…
141 ChoTime said at 3:59 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
See, Patriots, I told you to trade for Danielzzzzzz!
142 SteveH said at 4:03 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Julio Jones has 300 yards receiving.
143 Media Mike said at 4:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I think 250+ of those are YAC due to Coleman missing tackles.
144 HawaiianEagle said at 4:17 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Oh shit… according to dallas, romo is ranping up his conditioning… D Better get in a few more sprints next couple of weeks
145 Media Mike said at 4:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Time for a Dak INT. I’m tired of this bum stealing Wentz’s thunder.
146 scratcherk said at 4:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Here we go, Dak slobber fest
147 Media Mike said at 4:27 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Sad, but true.
148 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:27 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
So, I guess Chip didn’t bring Billy Davis with him to SF? Learned that lesson at least.
149 Media Mike said at 4:28 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Why were we forced to? The choke vs. Dallas in 2014 should have been the end of Billy here.
150 HawaiianEagle said at 4:29 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I fn hate measley
151 scratcherk said at 4:30 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
catch that shit fucker
152 SteveH said at 4:31 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
goddamnit reid
153 scratcherk said at 4:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
mr automatic misses
154 SteveH said at 4:33 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Grudgingly… lets go SanFrancisco Chip Kelly’s.
155 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:34 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
That about sums it up right there.
156 SteveH said at 4:34 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I would have loved a Dak pick there so Wentz would have secured the record but goddamn Reid… It was an awful pass too.
157 A_T_G said at 4:34 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
With Rodgers on a bye, I picked up Dak this week. So, we can rest easy that he will come crashing down.
158 SteveH said at 4:36 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Nice work.
159 scratcherk said at 4:36 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
thats dedication
160 DJH said at 4:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Well, I have him on my bench so figured he’d blow up. Hope you triple jinxed him!
161 scratcherk said at 4:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I like Chip, hope he does well.
162 scratcherk said at 4:38 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
terrible block on lee
163 SteveH said at 4:38 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I love seeing these Chip Kelly plays. The nostalgia.
164 SteveH said at 4:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
ahhhhh hahahaha Dallass.
165 scratcherk said at 4:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
TD BABY! GO CHIP GO!
166 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:41 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I NEED This win,,, took the Niners to beat Dallas in my suicide pool,
167 Media Mike said at 4:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Let’s see this glorified RB try to avoid throwing INTs on a day when his team’s D is getting shredded.
168 iceberg584 said at 4:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I love how all it takes is the Cowboys to bring us back into Chip’s arms.
169 scratcherk said at 4:44 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I never left the loving comfort of his arms….
I’m glad hes not our coach anymore but I like the dude.
170 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I hate people who are held back by their own ego
171 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:44 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’d root for a war criminal to beat dallas
172 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:46 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Lol pathetic Dallas defense blitzed the house, and the Niners OL completely stone walled them giving Gabbert like 3 seconds to find a wide open WR
173 scratcherk said at 4:47 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
YES YES YES
174 Buge Halls said at 4:47 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
The rare Bubby Brister mention!
175 scratcherk said at 4:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
dude was touching hte goalline
176 iceberg584 said at 4:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yeah, it was really obvious. Ref was right there and didn’t make the right call.
177 SteveH said at 4:51 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
HAH fucking dumbass Dunbar.
178 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Watching Chips Offense makes me so thankful for Doug Petersons diverse playbook
179 scratcherk said at 4:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
but i hope they tire the hell out of dallas d
180 DJH said at 4:55 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
But not their own defense. Seriously. With Dak and Eliot a tired 49ers D would be bad.
181 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:55 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Hell yeah. As long as the Niners offense moves the ball like this and doesn’t go 3 and out, the Niners should have enough talent on defense to cause problems for Dallas. It sure helps that Dallas Defense is basically Sean Lee, Crawford and a bunch of average players
182 MaybePederson said at 4:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Has anyone seen a swing pass for -2 yet??
183 scratcherk said at 4:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
im waiting for a stretch play for -2
184 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Dallas D is pretty crappy
185 MaybePederson said at 4:59 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
They actually have a running qb so I think the running game is slightly better because they can account ofr the backside with gabbert
186 scratcherk said at 5:01 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Go Chip Go
187 DJH said at 5:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Gabbert running a lot. Chip may have bit the bullet and conceded it’s a necessary evil for his O to work.
188 ChoTime said at 5:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
“y’think, Chip?”
189 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:01 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
For me watching the Chip offense with a mobile QB might be even worse because it’s pretty much like watching a Saturday college game,
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His offense is certainly more effective with a QB Who can run, but It makes the style of play even worse for my taste
190 MaybePederson said at 5:01 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Chip’s tongue is fully out after that one
191 RC5000 said at 5:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Dak passed Wentz (at least for time being) for most pass attempts without an interception by a rookie to start a career.
Brady has record for most pass attempts without an interception to start a career. He did it in rookie year and second year.
192 DJH said at 5:20 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Not that I’m rooting against the kid or care about the stat, but should obviously have had that INT on first drive. It is what it is.
193 RC5000 said at 5:35 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’m rooting against him and having a rookie QB not throwing interceptions if they’re producing is a very desirable trait to me. Until Wentz throws int, he still has a shot at it.
194 Donald Kalinowski said at 5:21 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
That hand off to the RB from the shot gun is painful to watch because you know 99% of the time it’s going to be stopped for a short gain.
195 scratcherk said at 5:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
idiot with the late hit
196 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Wow they really threw that flag? Disgraceful
197 MaybePederson said at 5:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Classic cowboy call
198 scratcherk said at 5:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
they were blowing hte whistle i think
199 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
They can’t assume the athlete heard them and throw a flag for pushing a QB
200 scratcherk said at 5:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
agreeed.
201 MaybePederson said at 5:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Apparently they can
202 scratcherk said at 5:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
sounds loud there
203 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:30 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Of course it’s loud, the home team sacked the opposing QB on 3rd down with a 14 pt lead, the refs assume the players heard a whistle and screwed the Niners like that because a defender pushed a QB who was refusing to go down? Like are we fucking kidding? Crucifying playërs for a bow and arrow celebration ISNT enough?
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I could understand protecting a QB at all costs, and throw that flag had he tackled The QB, but you take away a 3rd down stop for pushing a QB wearing pads who is refusing to go down on a sack? Fucking disgraceful
204 The original AG said at 5:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Just remember this:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/is-this-the-nfl-ref-czar-on-cowboys-party-bus-irate-nfl-execs-say-yes/
205 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yes, they can. Those are the rules.
206 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
15 fucking yards for pushing a QB?
207 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Well after whistle. Right call.
208 MaybePederson said at 5:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Thanks stripes
209 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Disgraceful.. Dallas should have been shut out this half.
210 MaybePederson said at 5:35 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
that’s holding
211 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:35 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
OMG grabbed his jersey on 3rd down and no INT call? Disgraceful dallas crap
212 The original AG said at 5:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Also gifted a personal foul penalty that kept that TD drive alive.
213 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:35 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Im disgusted, Can’t watch this game
214 MaybePederson said at 5:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Jesus Christ Hits future hall of famer jason witten for another first down
215 MaybePederson said at 5:38 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Then Christ to terrence williams for another first
216 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Are the Eagles and Vikings the only undefeated teams left? Who am I missing?
217 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
denver
218 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:41 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
That’s it,… Assuming they will beat down Jameis. When you have a scary team with Simein at QB, THATS an impressive roster
219 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
14-0
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3rd down sack, taken away because someone in pads who refused to go down got pushed in his back, dallas gifted a 1st down, go on to score 7-14 San Fran
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If that wasn’t enough for the Refs, the very next drive, they bail out dallas defense on 3rd down ignoring what was a blatant no call holding penalty on the WR that was thrown to for what should have been a first down, Dallas was gifted the ball back, and instead of going into the half down 14-0, it’s now a tied game
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I want throw up
220 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I don’t know who I hate more right now, chip? dallas? Or the Refs?
221 MaybePederson said at 5:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
All the above
222 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:49 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Im going to start rooting for an asteroid to crash into 50 yard line in the second half
223 xmbk said at 5:49 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Definitely the refs. They’ve done a good job of helping Dallas get back in it.
224 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:50 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Dallas. Its always Dallas. Your mad at the refs and Chip, why? Cause they’re helping Dallas.
225 A_T_G said at 5:51 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Stupid freakin’ Chip Kelly defense. I am having PTSD flashbacks.
226 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:51 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Trevor Simien out with a shoulder injury
227 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Just saw that update. Who’s QBing for Denver then?
228 MaybePederson said at 5:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Lynch
229 Insomniac said at 5:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Paxton Lynch
230 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Good question… Lynch I guess?
231 The original AG said at 5:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Interesting.
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/782592576545226752
232 MaybePederson said at 6:01 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
“But Dak is the best rookie this year”
233 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Wentz is just captain dink and dunk lol
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Will a dallas fan even admit that Daks ball placement today ISNT on Carson Wentz level? Probably not
234 MaybePederson said at 6:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
never in a million years, wentx could break every record in the book and win 900 superbowls and dak will still be a better qb
235 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Paxton Lynch even managed to get on an NFL Feild before Goeff
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Wentz,Lynch, Dak, Kesslar are all playing but still no Goeff… Am I missing anyone?
236 SteveH said at 5:55 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
It’s tough to watch this game with the way the officiating is going. False starts not called, garbage personal fouls, no PI or OPI on obvious calls… Just jesus christ.
237 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
It’s been so bad, that I take offense to them not mentioning the refs during the highlights.. Can they be any more Disengenous?
238 DJH said at 5:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Iffy roughing the passer call.
Holding call on 3rd down
False starts not being called.
Offensive PI not called in end zone.
Did I miss anything?
239 SteveH said at 6:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
No you got it.
240 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Hopefully KC/Steelers ends up being a great game, because This Niners/Dallas game is like the worst thing I could possibly watch during an Eagles bye week…. Really need an interesting Sunday night game to get this taste out of my mouth
241 The original AG said at 5:59 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Steelers put up 40 on KC.
242 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:03 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Marcus Peters vs Antonio Brown is interesting match up
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Return of Jamal Charles vs return of Laveon Bell
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The steelers can score 40 on any given week, but their defense can also give up 40
243 SteveH said at 6:03 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Lets see if the Chip Kelly’s can recover from that pukefest of a 2nd quarter.
244 GermanEagle said at 6:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I cannot believe the bloody Cowboys have found their next franchise QB by sheer luck. Ffs.
245 Media Mike said at 6:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
He sucks. VERY limited as a passer. Don’t lose sleep over him.
246 meteorologist said at 6:10 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
It’s not like he’s running …
247 Media Mike said at 6:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
He looks to. I can see it in his empty silver, blue, and white heart.
248 GermanEagle said at 6:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I beg to differ. A guy like Fitzpatricks sucks for instance.
249 Media Mike said at 6:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Beg all you’d like; DAK SUCKS!
250 scratcherk said at 6:15 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Not once but twice. Tony was UDFA.
251 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:06 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Lol Mularky said he is using his experience developing Kordell Stewart for how he develops Mariota lol… “brilliant”
252 MaybePederson said at 6:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
poor mariota
253 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:15 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
How’s that working out for them?
254 scratcherk said at 6:15 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
f dallas
255 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:19 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
i hate you chip!
256 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:19 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Classic Kelly. Pass short of sticks.
257 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:21 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Wonder how Niners fans feel about Chip?
258 The original AG said at 6:49 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Generally I don’t think they like him. The guys I talk to the in SF office don’t like him at least.
259 Media Mike said at 6:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I really feel bad for them. They had the greatest owner in the world who got himself into trouble by bribing the governor of Louisiana over some dumb casino business; and are now in a death spiral due to his dingbat sister, her eunuch of a husband, and their idiotic silver spoon fed dolt of a son.
260 scratcherk said at 6:23 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
all butler does is push off
261 DJH said at 6:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Game over.
262 GermanEagle said at 6:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Ryan Fitzpatrick is on pace to throw 40 picks this season.
263 scratcherk said at 6:27 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
is that chant for lets go cowboys?
264 scratcherk said at 6:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
great d SF
265 DJH said at 6:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
We need to own Dallas. Gotta stuff the run and take away the quick throw.
266 DJH said at 6:33 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Pretty much control the line of scrimmage because that’s what Dallas is doing.
267 MaybePederson said at 6:50 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
SF’s dline can’t hold cox’s jock strap
268 DJH said at 6:34 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Dak gets rid of the ball so quickly. We need tight coverage for 2-3 seconds and get some pressure on Dak.
269 ChoTime said at 6:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’m not a Jeff Fisher fan, but he seems to be able to get his team ready to play his division.
270 Media Mike said at 6:38 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
About half of the time.
271 scratcherk said at 6:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
this is painful to watch
272 scratcherk said at 6:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
reminds me of last year.
273 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I was about to say, rejoice in the fact that this no longer our offense and no longer our coach.
274 GermanEagle said at 6:44 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
First time ever that my FF defense delivered -1 points. Thank you, Carolina.
275 GermanEagle said at 6:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Plus I played the guy who had Julio Jones. Lol.
276 scratcherk said at 6:46 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
taunting
277 The original AG said at 6:51 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
https://totebot-images.s3.amazonaws.com/thats-turrible.jpg
278 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Should kill all present and future Gabbert fluffing
279 Rambo said at 6:54 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
EFFING GABBERT!!
280 A_T_G said at 6:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Over 7 ypc? But I think he is wearing down, Chip. Keep it up.
281 HawaiianEagle said at 6:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Man… SF really does suck.
282 Insomniac said at 6:59 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
old man Witten getting it done
283 HawaiianEagle said at 7:02 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
And I hate that Garrett Fing smile
284 Insomniac said at 7:02 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Dear football gods, end it in a damn tie.
285 GermanEagle said at 7:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Another great throw by Dak. Cannot honestly see where his game sucks. As much as I would love to.
286 HawaiianEagle said at 7:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
You’ll honestly see week 8.
287 GermanEagle said at 7:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Sure. Guess Big Ben sucks too?!
288 HawaiianEagle said at 7:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Not as much.
289 A_T_G said at 7:05 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Hopefully his confidence will be irreparably damaged when he gets benched for Romo.
290 GermanEagle said at 7:06 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Let’s see if his confidence gets damaged for three offense series until Tony’s back breaks again.
291 Rambo said at 7:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Quincy Carter 2.0?
292 Media Mike said at 7:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
seems likely.
293 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 7:06 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
It doesnt. People just drinking too much of this https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f81174a964cd4e70b77b1bfe372b5e60f91492ce51c67be65242f4faa2eb7413.jpg
294 Insomniac said at 7:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
That isn’t Kool Aid..that’s something better than Kool Aid.
295 GermanEagle said at 7:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Need to try this with vodka.
296 Insomniac said at 7:08 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
If you can find it, just make sure you drink it cold!
297 GermanEagle said at 7:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I always drink my vodka cold.
298 A_T_G said at 7:09 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Just be careful not to cross the streams while pouring.
299 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 7:08 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Hoped i wasnt the only one who remembered this
300 ChoTime said at 1:13 AM on October 3rd, 2016:
Damn sheltered punks don’t even know what Kool Aid is.
301 BobSmith77 said at 7:54 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
They should put ‘Causes Diabetes’ on it.
302 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:52 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
They should probably put a surgeons general warning on it.
303 ChoTime said at 7:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I wish Eagles fans wouldn’t try to make shit up about him. I think it’s cool when the other teams in the division are worthy opponents.
304 HawaiianEagle said at 7:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Opinion, like perception is one’s reality.
305 BobSmith77 said at 7:54 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
NFC East looks greatly improved this year so far and no real dogs. Going 4-2 for the Eagles in this division is going to be tough.
306 daveH said at 9:49 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Hopmg we get to play against Romo.. QB controversy shud be brewing about the time we see them
307 A_T_G said at 7:06 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
We are set up for Chip’s offensive offense to disappoint us one last time.
308 Rambo said at 7:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
The gift that keeps on giving. SMH
309 HawaiianEagle said at 7:07 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Lecture him Dez, lecture him…
310 Kohlhaas said at 7:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Gabbert is flat out terrible.
311 Media Mike said at 7:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Which tells you how stupid and sucky Kaep must be.
312 A_T_G said at 7:19 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Or Kelly.
313 Media Mike said at 7:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Kaep was an overrated read one and run low IQ piece of garbage QB LONG before Chip got there.
314 scratcherk said at 7:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
thanks refs.
315 scratcherk said at 7:14 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
wtf was that.
316 MaybePederson said at 7:16 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
hahahhahahahhahahahaahahhaahahahahah classic chip move
317 daveH said at 9:47 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Not watching.what happened? ?
318 Insomniac said at 7:16 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Chip not getting his players ready? What a surprise!!!
319 Insomniac said at 7:17 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
What are the chances of a fumble or pick 6 happening now? 0.1%?
320 SteveH said at 7:18 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I cannot wait to play the Cowboys. I’m sick of watching them struggle but finally win against these clown car fucking opponents.
Blaine Gabbert is the quarterback Chip Kelly deserves.
321 Media Mike said at 7:25 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Cincy will murder them next week.
322 SteveH said at 7:36 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
At least they’ll finally be playing a team that doesn’t look like it can manage to tie its shoelaces in the morning. The goddamn Niners are a travesty of a team and the Cowboys still struggled to put them away.
323 Media Mike said at 7:36 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
AMEN
324 Insomniac said at 7:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
At this rate he might finally have his QB pick that he needs to win a playoff game.
325 Sean Stott said at 7:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yuck, it really is disgusting to watch the CK offense. So terrible it’s not even funny anymore. It also makes me sick to see nobody give the Cowboys any real competition. People are just letting Zeke have his way with them. Ugly.
326 A_T_G said at 7:29 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Sorry guys, I tried to jinx them. I promise I do not enjoy the 40 points Dak and Zeke brought me in the IgglesBlitz league.
327 scratcherk said at 7:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
The NFC favorites for the superbowl — Panthers and Cardinals — are both 1-3.
328 Media Mike said at 7:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Cardinals might be able to turn it around. The Panthers can’t get Josh Norman back on D and folks have figured out their gimmick offense like they figured out wildcat.
329 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 7:41 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
You mean having Cam drop back and hold the ball for 5 seconds isnt sustainable?
330 Media Mike said at 7:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Especially with Oher and Remmers.
331 scratcherk said at 7:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
not really a gimmick offense, just cam is highly overrated.
332 Media Mike said at 7:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
That QB power run / option stuff is pure gimmick.
333 A_T_G said at 7:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
John Kuhn has 3 TDs today.
334 scratcherk said at 7:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
kuuuuuuuhn
335 MaybePederson said at 7:59 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
in a 6-team fantasy leage and might need to pick him up to get some vulture pts
336 Insomniac said at 7:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Damn the Chargers tho…
337 Media Mike said at 7:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Their GM should be placed into a dumpster.
338 Howie Littlefinger said at 7:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Rams are 3-1 …. What a weird year
339 BobSmith77 said at 7:57 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Its a little ridiculous to say the Lions game is a ‘must-win’ but given the Eagles’ schedule down the stretch it might be the easiest game they left on the schedule.
340 unhinged said at 8:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Tell ya what, I’ll spot you the Lions, and we dominate our division opponents. Must needs nuttin’.
341 BobSmith77 said at 8:02 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
‘Impotent’ would the word I would use to describe the Pats’ today. Everybody has stoked the ‘Belicheck is a genius’ story line since they started out 3-0 but the Bills controlled that game from the get-go and just beat them straight up on both sides of the ball. Nothing complicated or terrible innovative either.
342 Media Mike said at 8:04 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
When you start a running back at QB; it can’t work forever. They really should have signed a street free agent QB given they had an extra 3 days to prepare.
343 Sean Stott said at 8:15 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Don’t look now, but the NFC East is by far the strongest division in the NFC
344 Media Mike said at 8:17 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Until the unworthy bums who aren’t the Eagles being to pile up losses to the Eagles and their other opponents. Minnesota will get a nice trend started Monday night.
345 SteveH said at 8:26 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
How in the holy hell did Arizona lose to the Rams??? What in the everloving fuck is going on this year?
346 Sean Stott said at 8:27 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I keep saying it but it bears repeating – just because teams were good last year doesn’t mean they’ll be good this year. And vise versa.
347 SteveH said at 8:29 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
That’s always true, but most of the time teams are not DRASTICALLY better or worse unless there’s some kind of major roster/coaching overhaul. The Panthers and the Cards are returning basically the same teams, except you could argue the Panthers are even better now with Kelvin Benjamin healthy.
348 Media Mike said at 8:30 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Benjamin is actually not that good. Drops a ton of passes and gets most of his stats at garbage time.
349 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:31 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Panthers have holes in the secondary. And no way was Cam going to keep playing at that level he did last year.
Maybe teams have just figured out the Cardinals.
350 Media Mike said at 8:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I think teams have figured out the Panthers. And mega-reaching for guys like Bradbury in the 2nd round, when they’re 7th round talents isn’t going to make up for Norman being gone.
351 SteveH said at 8:33 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Cam doesn’t need to be an MVP for the Panthers to win, but he’s playing like junk the last couple of games.
I refuse to believe that losing Josh Norman is causing that whole team to tailspin.
352 Media Mike said at 8:35 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
A significant level of Cam’s success was done via gimmick. Wade Phillips laid out the blueprint to defeat those gimmicks. Just like with wildcat, the league caught up to Carolina’s tricks.
353 SteveH said at 8:36 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I don’t know if I completely buy that but Carolina is definitely a team looking for answers right now.
354 Media Mike said at 8:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Here’s an answer for them; maybe you should have based your system on something other than fool’s gold QB runs.
355 SteveH said at 8:38 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Well it did get them to a super bowl, I’m not sure it was a complete failure.
356 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Their OL is pretty bad this year.
357 Media Mike said at 8:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
It was last year too, but they were max protecting and teams called foolish Ds against it. Wade Phillips laid down a nice blueprint.
358 Media Mike said at 8:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
And Kaep got the Niners to one taking teams by surprise as well; that also ended poorly because he never learned how to be a real QB.
359 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:35 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
LOL. Julio put up 300 yards on them. No way that happens vs Norman. The guy isnt Deion, but he is really good. They also lost 2 other vets in the secondary have two rookie CBs starting.
And yes, Cam does have to play at a high level to carry that offense.
360 Sean Stott said at 8:36 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Holy crap Julio put up 300 yards? I thought the announcers misspoke when I glanced at that channel and heard that stat. Holy shit.
361 SteveH said at 8:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Biggest receiving game since Calvin Johnson had 329 a few years ago. It seems unreal that 1 player could pile up that many yards but here we are.
362 Media Mike said at 8:37 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
You know like 290 of those were due to Coleman missed tackles.
363 John Galt said at 9:57 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Carson Palmer just throws too many picks
364 SteveH said at 8:31 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Trevor Siemian getting hurt really fucked a few promising fanduel rosters.
365 SteveH said at 8:39 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
haha, I need Sammie Coates to have a big game and BAM right off the bat.
366 Mitchell said at 8:40 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Sammie Coates sighting…. again.
367 Media Mike said at 8:41 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
He’ll drop one again soon to remind us who he really is.
368 Mitchell said at 8:42 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’ll take a couple drops a game for a couple 40 yards plays.
369 Media Mike said at 8:43 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’ll take zero drops!
370 SteveH said at 8:44 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
You can’t have it, we have Jordan Mathews.
371 Media Mike said at 8:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’ll brutalize him as well for the drops!
372 Media Mike said at 8:48 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Ha, he almost just died on the end around.
373 SteveH said at 8:49 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Steelers already more points on the Chiefs than they had on us all last week.
374 CrackSammich said at 8:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
what.
375 SteveH said at 8:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Alex Smith. *shrug*
376 SteveH said at 8:57 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
The bigger the Steelers rout the better our win looks last week.
377 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:59 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Nah. People will just say look what happens when the Steelers have Bell
378 DJH said at 9:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Nope. People will say they just had a bad game. Commentators already saying “Steelers defense looks much better this week” and “doing things they didn’t do last week” yadda yadda yadda.
So we’ll be hearing about that and Dak all week.
Eagles just need to shut out the media and fans and just focus on a one week season.
379 Media Mike said at 9:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
This level of disrespect from the nation media and other fan bases is what gets people in visiting team gear beaten up in parking lots.
380 SteveH said at 9:16 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I think people with issues of aggression and behavioral control is what gets people beat up in parking lots.
381 Media Mike said at 9:16 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yeah, shame those people choose to drive down here and start problems when they should know better.
382 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:24 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yeah, but I liked watching the Steelers fans wandering about in misery all last week.
383 SteveH said at 9:10 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
This Antonio Brown dude is pretty good.
384 Media Mike said at 9:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Just a bit. Although I might suggest he get a tad more nonsensical if he’s going to get 15 yard flags anyway.
385 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:12 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Maybe trying to avoid another fine
386 Media Mike said at 9:13 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
He said fines didn’t matter to a boss, so I want some entertainment. Like the old Chad Johnson stuff.
387 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:18 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Cant be giving all the strip club money to Goddell’s yearly bonus.
388 CrackSammich said at 9:11 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
This is so bad they should look into match fixing.
389 SteveH said at 9:16 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I’d rather the investigate the officiating crew from the Cowboys game. That game totally turned on a series of awful calls/non-calls.
390 The original AG said at 9:23 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I saw this coming. I said earlier today that Pitt was going to drop 40 points on them.
391 bushisamoron said at 9:47 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
While Wentz has certainly started well, what is most exciting about him is that it appears that the Eagles have a long term plan for the position. We all know the importance of the position and the lack of franchise QB’s in the league that essentially disqualify 15 or so teams every year from truly competing for the super bowl.
392 James said at 10:32 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
How many steelers have come back from injury that their fans/media say they so casually missed last week?
393 A_T_G said at 11:02 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
I believe it was reported we actually played against the Stealers, a Chinese import version featuring Big Bend and Ann-Tony O. Brown, while the real team remained in Pittsburgh.
394 Froogal Stoodent said at 2:28 PM on October 3rd, 2016:
LOL! That was good!
395 HawaiianEagle said at 10:45 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
NFL says Dak and boys rally to “blast” 49rs… Not sure I’d use rally and blast when describing that win vs 49rs
396 ChoTime said at 1:15 AM on October 3rd, 2016:
Is it a dynamite reference?
397 HawaiianEagle said at 1:17 AM on October 3rd, 2016:
Hmmm.. that would be the only explosive thing from that game.
398 mtn_green said at 10:53 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
How good is eagles defense.
399 The original AG said at 10:56 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
Yup, just like Andy Reid to be on the 3 yard line and pass 4 straight times.
400 DJH said at 10:58 PM on October 2nd, 2016:
And Alex Smith is a decent runner. A little creativity goes a long way.