Fletcher Cox is an Eagle!!!

Posted: April 26th, 2012 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 165 Comments »

Luke who? That guy’s a bum.

I am shocked that Fletcher Cox fell far enough for the Eagles to get him. Howie Roseman traded up a 4th and a 6th to get from pick 15 to pick 12. The Seahawks have worked well with the Eagles in the past (Darryl Tapp trade).

This is masterful. The Eagles got lucky, but also didn’t overplay the situation. There was no panic. Howie stayed back and let things fall. The team wanted Fletcher Cox, but also valued the 2nd and 3rd round picks so they didn’t want to give those up unless absolutely necessary. Tom Heckert used to be the master of knowing when players would go. Seems like Howie learned well and that served him and us well. Great job. Some luck helped as well.

Awesome start to the 2012 NFL Draft.

165 Comments on “Fletcher Cox is an Eagle!!!”

1 Kammich said at 9:13 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I can’t believe we got the #1 guy on our board and didn’t even have to surrender a 2nd day pick to do it. What a coupe. Bravo, Howie and co.
I’m so stoked right now. I’ll barely be able to focus on the rest of the first round.
2 Mac said at 10:41 AM on April 27th, 2012:
The whole city of Philadelphia celebrates Roseman’s ability to grab Cox.
3 deshawnbentley said at 9:14 PM on April 26th, 2012:
2012 draft = A+
4 Zachary said at 9:14 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Maybe I could be excited about this – but I’m not sure why?
Corey Simon? Stud to bust really quick
Jerome McDougle? Bust
Mike Patterson? Medicore
Broderick Bunkley? Bust
Brandon Graham? Bust?
We arne’t exactly hitting our DL 1st round picks.
5 Kammich said at 9:15 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I see where you’re coming from, but I feel the difference here is the fit for the player. Cox was born to play in Washburn’s system. It reminds me a lot of when we got Shady… just a god-given fit for what the team likes to do.
6 Zachary said at 9:18 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I mean I don’t understand the excitement. Is he replacing Cullen Jenkins? Mike Patterson? Antino Dixon? Derek Landri? Cedric Thornton?
We just drafted at best our 3rd DT….and we traded up to do so. We also drafted our 5th DL in the first round since 2000 – without 1 success story.
I don’t care if this guy was 6’9 390 lbs and ran a 4.4 -40 with game tape to match. I’m not excited about a back-up DL on a team who can’t evaluate the DL.
7 sonofdman said at 9:21 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Washburn constantly rotates his d-linemen. Cox will have the chance to have a big impact.
8 Baloophi said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Players have a nasty tendency to age so you draft for the future. Cox will immediately spell Cullen Jenkins and/or come in on obviously passing downs. Babin + Cox + Jenkins + Cole = Good Luck Eli
He can also play DE, so he gives you flexibility there.
9 SportiVore said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Great teams anticipate needs.
10 Zachary said at 9:30 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Great teams draft great players, they don’t just fill needs.
11 deg0ey said at 9:47 PM on April 26th, 2012:
So does it matter that he’s gonna be a rotational guy for a year or two? Many many people think that he’s gonna be a great player, so you have nothing to complain about
12 SportiVore said at 10:03 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Right, so the Eagles drafted a great player, they didn’t just fill a need.
13 Toby_yboT said at 9:17 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Simon went stud to bust quickly, but still gave us several good years and was a key part of our defense (when he was on).
Patterson is better than mediocre. Many teams would be happy to have him.
Bunkley was not a bust. Did a good job of what he was asked.
Graham. We’ll see.
14 Zachary said at 9:29 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I disagree. You want your first round picks to be studs, not medicore. When you take that into consideration, these picks are not successes.
That group has only the Pro Bowls Corey Simon went to, between them. Patterson is a pro’s pro, and I’m not unhappy with him, but when we drafted him, if I told you he’d play for us for 7 years and have 15.5 sacks you’d be looking at me like I was insane.
I completely disagree on Bunkley he’s the definition of a bust. He was shipped out of Philly for nothing…before his first contract expired. Maybe he was medicore, but again we’re talking about picks that hsould be stars.
15 Toby_yboT said at 9:42 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Buckley was a casualty of an organization that hasn’t had a long-term plan since the passing of JJ. He adjusted to the 2-gap, then the iggs made another radical change of direction and decided not to give him the chance to adapt. However, given that he was drafted at 15, I think it’s fair to say he was a disappointment. To me, a bust is well a bust. Someone that straight up doesn’t work out. Bunkley was a disappointment.
Patterson was pivotal in our top-5 ish run defenses under the 2 gap system. He also led rookie DTs in sacks and tackles his rookie year. Led the eagles DL in tackles that year too. You can’t expect a 2-gap DT to rack up sacks. Not their primary job. When he was asked to switch back to a 1-gap system, his TFL totals went up.
Patterson was drafted with the last pick of the 1st round. If you get a stud there, that’s nice, but I wouldn’t say you expect a stud.
Can you tell I have a soft spot for Patterson? I wouldn’t usually derail a thread like this but you hit my sore spot.
16 kevinlied said at 9:50 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Mike Patterson was an end-of-the-first-round pick. I haven’t done the research, but my (strong) sense is that Patterson and his seven years of solidness have met/exceeded his expected value based on draft position.
17 laeagle said at 10:03 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Patterson is better than mediocre, and was drafted late in the first round. He was good value at that point.
What you’re saying is “you want first round picks to always be All Pro Superbowls and picking them will every year guarantee that you win the Super Bowl. Anything less is mediocre and unacceptable to people like me with high standards of winning.”
Ridiculous, and please stop.
18 JRO91 said at 9:51 AM on April 27th, 2012:
FYI…Fletcher Cox is a stud…every analyst top to bottom said he is the best DT in this years draft…What more do you want?
19 mfrey0118 said at 10:32 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I think now we trade Patterson.
20 Anders Jensen said at 9:18 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Graham is bust because he blew his knee?
21 Zachary said at 9:25 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Was Ka-Jana Carter not a bust because he blew his knee out and never lived up to his selection? Brandon Graham is headed in that direction. A guy who has 3 sacks in his first 16 games doesn’t get me really excited. If he is out of shape again this off sesaon – don’t be shocked if the team demotes him.
22 Gregory Post said at 10:03 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Injuries should not count against the organization. Brandon Graham had minimal health concerns coming out of college, and an ACL injury is more of an indicator of bad luck over poor drafting.
23 Cliff said at 9:26 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I stopped reading when you said Patterson and Corey Simon were busts. Both were and have been solid for us.
24 Zachary said at 9:34 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Again my point is the 1st rounders (and high first rounders in Simons case) are supposed to be stars. Studs, great players. We’ve spent top 15 picks on 4 DL’s prior to Cox…in that group we have
Corey Simon
Broderick Bunkley
Jerome McDougle
Brandon Graham
Of those which turned out to be a game changer?
25 Anders Jensen said at 9:44 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Simon was before he got fat, Bunkley is maybe the best run stopping DT in the NFL right now and Graham was the best rookie pass rusher before he blew his knee
26 Zachary said at 9:47 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Best run stuffer in the game. Gotta love those advanced statistic companies. The Broncos we’re medicore to bad against the run last year – on a team that won the TOP – and we’re going to call Bunkley maybe the best run stuffer in the NFL?
I’ll go with anyone of the DT’s / NT’s above him on teams that you know, stop the run.
Great he ate up blockers on a team that allowed everyone to run all over him. Huge success story.
27 Anders Jensen said at 9:56 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Bunkley was also a great great run stopper for us. he just not anything else
28 wee2424 said at 10:19 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Let me ask you this. Do you honestly think the majority of first rounders picked by all teams are now studs? The answer to that is no. So using logic it would make sense to say that just because not all eagles first round picks have been studs, that does not make them poor drafters.
29 47_Ronin said at 11:10 PM on April 26th, 2012:
You shouldn’t compare Cox to the previous Eagles DL 1st round picks. Cox is not in the same mold (he’s bigger and more athletic). Part of the problem with Bunk’s underperformance while he was an Eagle was the change of scheme and poor position coaching. I never understood why Reid kept Rory Seagrest on staff after Bashear retired. Rory sucked as a DL coach, notice the Eagles DL production after Washburn was brought on board.
30 Brett Smith said at 10:24 AM on April 27th, 2012:
+1. Bunkley was a good DT prospect. I blame Rory as well as he never got the tackles to play as well as Brasher did.
I also blame the 2-gap switch as it completely changes how the team plays. If we had better LBs after the switch to the 2-gap they would have been feasting on RBs and QBs as Bunkley and Patterson held up 4 lineman between them.
I think you are not seeing things for what they are as most 1st rounders only turn in to ok players and you only get a few star players every year.
31 laeagle said at 9:26 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Your pessimism makes as much sense as bitching about DeSean Jackson because of Na Brown.
32 Zachary said at 9:42 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I’m comparing 1st round DL to 1st round DL. I’m looking at historic success of picks by a team. I think overall the Eagles are a poor drafting team. And I’m not jumping on board the Fletcher Cox bandwagon just because he ran a great 40 at the combine. In the end we’ll see how good our talent evaluators our.
33 laeagle said at 10:00 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Well then, frankly, you’re an idiot. Considering the statistics of the draft, you will always have more bad picks than good historically in any one position.
Never mind the fact that the Eagles are actually decent drafters; to say they’re a poor drafting team is based on emotion and COMPLETELY flies in the face of verifiable fact. There are numerous posts in the Eagles boards, on Bleeding green nation, and by Tommy that prove this pretty well. Bottom line, EVERYONE is bad at drafting and the Eagles are better than most.
Never mind the fact that ALL evaluators of draft talent this year have Cox rated as a top 10 player, some saying he’s the best defensive player in the draft. People like Mayock and Greg Cosell.
Never mind the fact that those evaluations are based primarily on game tape, not a fast 40 speed. Mayock, Cosell, and others do not put nearly as much stock in combine numbers as you are assuming
You’re trying desperately to sound like a voice of reason but you’re really just being negative for the sake of being negative. It’s one thing to say, “hey, we don’t know for sure about this guy, so don’t act like he’s a sure thing.” You are acting as if he is a complete bust solely based upon picks like McDougle. That’s just absolutely inane and freaking moronic. Sorry, but it is.
34 wee2424 said at 10:17 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Really man? A poor drafting team? I could go on a long spiel, but I am just going to simply say you are wrong.
35 sonofdman said at 12:27 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Ok – a similar comparison would be that we shouldn’t have drafted DeSean Jackson in the second round because Todd Pinkston (also drafted in the second round) wasn’t very good. Or we shouldn’t have drafted Jeremy Maclin because Freddie Mitchell wasn’t very good.
The truth is noone knows how Cox will turn out, so right now you are being negative just to be negative.
36 Mark Sitko said at 9:58 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Graham is not a bust AT ALL – he got hurt, give the kid a chance…
The big difference is we now have a best of all time DL coach – and he has a lot of say in who we go after…I think Cox will be just fine – best DL of the draft…should have been first off the board, but luckily KC took a risk on Poe…have some faith – we had 50 sacks last year, our D line is fine even if a few have not worked out.
PS – Patterson is way better than mediocre – that is very insulting, but he is not a great fit for Washburn’s style…Simon was a stud period. McDougle had some crazy circumstances that led to his failure – he was awesome before he got carjacked and shot…his first sack on Eli manning is one of the best Eagles sacks of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv7DTI-kTzA
Bunk was also not a bust at all – you are way off on all of these, he may not have been worth a high first round pick, but he, like Patterson, played solid ball for us for several years
37 ultramattman said at 10:38 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Okay, it’s fine to have a healthy debate, but I will NOT sit idly by while someone suggests that Jerome McDougle was an awesome player. McDougle sucked from day one, he was two years into a lousy career before he got shot. That Eli sack is awesome but it’s literally the ONLY good thing that ever came out of McDougle’s career.
38 JRO91 said at 10:19 PM on April 26th, 2012:
How is graham a bust. He tore his knee. Not his fault
39 Baloophi said at 9:14 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Very well done! Let the Cox punnery begin!!!!!!
40 Arby1 said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Eagles Cox just made dirty Sanchez.
41 TommyLawlor said at 9:44 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I am going to say some awkward things over the next few years. Cox. So wrong, so very wrong.
42 the guy said at 10:19 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Maybe we should just come up with a great nickname for him…
How about “the Penetrator”?
43 aub32 said at 4:54 AM on April 27th, 2012:
That’s too funny
44 Alex Karklins said at 8:44 AM on April 27th, 2012:
The “Howard Mudd Facts” Twitter account posted something similar the other day:
“Hoping Fletcher Cox is drafted and paired w/ Antonio Dixon, Howard Mudd has already designed “The Interior Penetrators: Dix & Cox” shirts.”
Doesn’t get better than that!
45 P_P_K said at 9:55 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I’ve been trying to think of something that funny. Well done.
46 TrentColeHamels said at 9:15 PM on April 26th, 2012:
LOVE LOVE LOVE IT.
47 Arby1 said at 9:16 PM on April 26th, 2012:
YESSSS!!!!
48 bdbd20 said at 9:16 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Time to hunt!
49 NoDecaf said at 9:16 PM on April 26th, 2012:
SWEET! now we need Wagner and Boykin!
50 Baloophi said at 9:16 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Tommy,
Is there any splippage that would compel the Eagles to trade back into the late 1st? I can’t think of anyone that would be worth the move but wondered if you had any scenarios in mind…
51 TommyLawlor said at 9:46 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Great question. I could see them targeting TE Coby Fleener, since it sounds like the team wants to do a lot more with 2 TE sets.
Do the Eagles really like Janoris Jenkins? If so, you wonder about him.
52 nickross23 said at 9:58 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Hearing alot of buzz linking us with Jenkins.. if he was the pick at 51 i wouldn’t mind. Being in a locker room with someone who has screwed up millions in Vick to learn from, new leader of the defense in Ryans and Namdi as the ultimate pro on and off the field would be a good support system for the kid
53 Brett Smith said at 10:51 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Fleener’s old coach passed on him for a dude I never heard of. Maybe Fleener is not as valuable as all the Mock Meatheads would have us think…
Sorry Tommy but maybe Fleener isn’t as valuable as we thought (I was on the band wagon).
Good news is we might be able to get him in the 2nd
54 Mr_electric10 said at 9:17 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Without giving up a 2nd or 3rd. So far this is awesome.
55 Toby_yboT said at 9:17 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I’m happy with this pick : )
ready for the next
56 GermanEagle said at 9:18 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Am I gay if I love Cox?!
57 ian_no_2 said at 9:22 PM on April 26th, 2012:
You are being unfaithful to Landri
58 Caveman_Bob said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
No. But you might grow to love Big Cox.
59 P_P_K said at 9:56 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Depends how hard he plays.
60 Brett Smith said at 10:53 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Kid has a Motor and is a Fastball. But he is not “Undersized” He is a beast.
He also hunts Deer so him, Babin, and Cole can hang together. The rotation on the DLine is going to be scary this year.
Wait till they line him up at DE and let Babin and Cole stand up joker style in the Middle…. Romo will have Cox all over him.
61 Brett Smith said at 10:53 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Kid has a Motor and is a Fastball. But he is not “Undersized” He is a beast.
He also hunts Deer so him, Babin, and Cole can hang together. The rotation on the DLine is going to be scary this year.
Wait till they line him up at DE and let Babin and Cole stand up joker style in the Middle…. Romo will have Cox all over him.
62 Eric Weaver said at 9:19 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Can we trade back in so I’m not bored now. 🙂
63 ian_no_2 said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
You could work for Dan Snyder in Washington.. he likes that way of thinking
64 Joe Malone said at 9:26 PM on April 26th, 2012:
This.
65 SportiVore said at 9:21 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I’ll let this gif speak for me…
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/yea-fuck-yea.gif
66 nopain23 said at 9:21 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Can anyone remember a more satisfying first round pick?…no way as an iggles fan u can second guess this.1st round is about getting an impact player..look at what Dallas did.great job Howie!!!!
67 JRO91 said at 9:22 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Ja. Jenkins, Bobby Wagner, And BPA in the 3rd.
68 nickross23 said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Sux we have to wait till tomorrow for rounds 2&3 excellent start guys
69 sonofdman said at 9:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I love this. I wanted Cox (hee hee) but I did not think it was worth giving up our seconds. It is great that we also didn’t have to give up a third.
70 nickross23 said at 9:26 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Any chance we trade back in with someone like NE for Fleener as the target?
71 nopain23 said at 9:27 PM on April 26th, 2012:
AAm I the only one who was freaking out the iggles might reach for Chandler Jones?
72 Baloophi said at 9:29 PM on April 26th, 2012:
My fear was Coples…
73 nickross23 said at 9:34 PM on April 26th, 2012:
It crawled into my mind as well the last couple of days
74 Baloophi said at 9:31 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Willie Brown also from Yazoo City… maybe they’ll produce two Hall of Famers?
75 nickross23 said at 9:32 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Wow Bruce Irving goes before Ingram
76 dislikedisqus said at 9:33 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I take total credit for this. I was the first commenter to say “look at Cox”. That was back in late Feb when he was ranked behind Still, Worthy and Brockers on some of the national draft sites.
77 nopain23 said at 9:37 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I tip my cap to you sir
78 the guy said at 10:49 PM on April 26th, 2012:
‘ I was the first commenter to say “look at Cox”.’
I’ve said this a lot tonight, but so many jokes…
79 Baloophi said at 9:34 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Coples – please check your parachute…
80 Baloophi said at 9:34 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Ditto Ingram…
81 Arby1 said at 9:38 PM on April 26th, 2012:
but Jets are up. gotta take ingram. right?
82 ian_no_2 said at 9:37 PM on April 26th, 2012:
told you I had a bust vibe
83 Eric Weaver said at 9:39 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Bengals probably loving that DeCastro and Glenn are still available.
84 Baloophi said at 9:39 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Probably pro forma / MO, but Reid said once they made the trade he kept Cox on the phone… and that “we knew it would be a popular pick, so we heard what teams wanted but decided to turn in the pick.” Weird, huh?
85 aerochrome2 said at 9:41 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Saying he would have re-traded? That woulda been strange.
86 ian_no_2 said at 9:46 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Bruce Irvin was projected mid to late 2nd round… odd for Pete Carroll
87 TommyLawlor said at 9:47 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I actually heard yesterday he would go in the 1st. I had him going at 32 in my mock draft.
88 ian_no_2 said at 9:52 PM on April 26th, 2012:
so I guess they couldn’t trade down, or they just HAD to have him
89 TommyLawlor said at 9:54 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Pete Carroll drafts unusually. It has worked so far.
90 ian_no_2 said at 9:47 PM on April 26th, 2012:
“Dre, how does it feel to be going to Cinci?”
“I feel g-reat! The room is spinning. Are those cheese curls?”
91 TommyLawlor said at 9:55 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Guys,
I should have known the Eagles would get Fletcher Cox. I wore my lucky underwear today. Forgot that when making final draft thoughts.
92 Brian Pillion said at 9:57 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Yeah, but that doesn’t count. Didn’t you wear your lucky underwear yesterday? And the day before that? And the day before…
93 TommyLawlor said at 10:09 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Are you saying I have only one pair of underwear?
Wrong. 1.5
94 BC1968 said at 10:19 PM on April 26th, 2012:
No I was wearing his lucky underwear yesterday, got them back to him just in time.
95 TommyLawlor said at 10:25 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Uh, yeah. We need to talk about that.
96 Toby_yboT said at 1:09 AM on April 27th, 2012:
still warm?
97 LeicesterEaglesAce73 said at 10:31 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I think you can only consider them lucky if Megan Fox knocks on your door this morning!
98 Eric Weaver said at 10:03 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Two teams that I think screwed themselves thus far: Bucs and Rams, the latter being sort of screwed this year.
Bucs could have just taken Claiborne and solidified a huge need position. And they really got less value than the Eagles, imo, in the trade. Then the Rams missed out on Blackmon, Cox, etc. and settled with a guy they really didn’t need. They would have been better off taking Floyd, DeCastro or Glenn to help Bradford or taken Kirkpatrick to help the secondary.
99 ian_no_2 said at 10:09 PM on April 26th, 2012:
OL is falling big time.. still no DeCastro and Reiff
100 Anders Jensen said at 10:15 PM on April 26th, 2012:
or Martin
101 ian_no_2 said at 10:24 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Steelers have great value with DeCastro.. next to Pouncey. Reiff is good for Lions. You don’t have to stink to get good guys
102 TommyLawlor said at 10:25 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Great pick by Steelers.
103 Arby1 said at 10:35 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Steelers have great value with DeCastro.. next to Pouncey
definitely envious
104 nopain23 said at 10:17 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Iggles live suggested that AR is not available for interview..cause iggles might be trying to trade back into first.bad idea there are good players which we can get with two second rd picks
105 aerochrome2 said at 10:22 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Maybe they are just monitoring? Or maybe it was before the run on OL?
106 TommyLawlor said at 10:25 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Probably just a precaution. I don’t anticipate another pick.
107 nopain23 said at 10:33 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I hope you and your lucky draws are right T
Oh and by the way can you get us lavonte and boykins in the second please…?
108 Cafone said at 10:30 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Great night for the NFC East so far. I love the Eagles pick, but I wish the Skins and Cowboys didn’t do so well.
109 TommyLawlor said at 10:43 PM on April 26th, 2012:
True. DAL and WAS did well. Let’s hope the Giants make a bad pick.
110 Alex Karklins said at 10:44 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I was really hoping for a Redskins phone malfunction, but they got their man. I’m already working up a major dislike for “Dolores” Claiborne.
111 TommyLawlor said at 10:33 PM on April 26th, 2012:
There are some interesting players left in the 1st round, but I want the Eagles to sit tight. I would love for them to use both 2nds and the 3rd tomorrow. Lots of good players to be had.
112 ian_no_2 said at 10:38 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Zeitler leapfrogged Cordy Glenn into the 1st.. at least the Giants don’t get Zeitler
113 ian_no_2 said at 10:40 PM on April 26th, 2012:
The only guy I’d want to trade up for now is Worthy but they already have Cox so that makes no sense
114 NoDecaf said at 10:45 PM on April 26th, 2012:
So based on their ability at their respective positions, is the correct order Jenkins, Wagner, Boykin?
115 Arby1 said at 10:51 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Some guy on Eagles Live just called Jenkins the second coming of Pacman Jones. Eagles had him in for an interview. They’ll know what to do. But Wagner, definitely, hope he’s there at 46.
116 nopain23 said at 10:56 PM on April 26th, 2012:
If Dawkins were around to mentor Jenkins..then sure I say get him…but at this point I’d go with boykins..safer pick
117 JRO91 said at 10:38 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Why cause he smokes weed? If he wasn’t busted for that he would have been a top 10 pick. Take the risk. He is way better than Boykins….I am sure he is not the only player on the current Eagles rost to smoke weed. Nmandi would be a great mentor to him along with Bowles….Jenkins shut down the top WR’s in teh SEC when he was there. Guy is a steal in the 2nd. I watched Boykin whiff on a tackle last night on on Melvin Ingram on that fake punt they showed….ummm, I don’t want a corner that gets juked out of his shoes by a 260lb DE….
118 ian_no_2 said at 10:55 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Giants have choice of Martins, Jonathan or Doug
119 ian_no_2 said at 10:56 PM on April 26th, 2012:
bucs may pick Doug
120 ian_no_2 said at 10:57 PM on April 26th, 2012:
ok good Doug M is not on the Giants
121 nickross23 said at 11:04 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Lol love Grudens nick name for Doug Martin aka the muscle hamster. Onto some guys in round 2. Is there any chance Upshaw can play Sam for us. forget scheme fit hes just too talented to pass up if he’s there at 46.. Fleener or Dwayne Allen maybe, B wags, Lavonte David.. Brandon Boykin, hell how about rb. Damn I can’t wait till tomorrow what do you think guys?
122 aerochrome2 said at 11:06 PM on April 26th, 2012:
While the ravens passed on him at 29, I dont think there is anyway they pass at 36 tomorrow
123 TrentColeHamels said at 11:23 PM on April 26th, 2012:
I’m with you, tomorrow I wanna see David or Wagner, Boykin or Jenkins, Fleener or Allen, maybe even Randle or Jefferies.
124 nickross23 said at 11:05 PM on April 26th, 2012:
And fleener is still on the board baby!!
125 LeicesterEaglesAce73 said at 11:07 PM on April 26th, 2012:
4am finish, but worth it. Looking forward to rounds 2 and 3. Fleener/Boykin/Wagner fingers crossed!
126 D3Keith said at 7:01 PM on April 27th, 2012:
Those are three of my favorites.
Guess we don’t need Wolfe now but he looks like fun.
127 ian_no_2 said at 11:09 PM on April 26th, 2012:
“Wilson.. out of the backfield.. and the ball is loose..”
128 wee2424 said at 9:54 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Lol
129 Eric Weaver said at 11:32 PM on April 26th, 2012:
What an indictment on Penn State’s recruiting and player development. Notre Dame, Illinois and Boise St. had two first rounders each. Zero for PSU.
130 Christopher Ziegler said at 12:02 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Stupid stat…guess who else didn’t have a 1st rd pick? Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Ohio State, Michigan. Guess none of them can recruit or develop players either?
The draft is more than anything, an indictment on anything non SEC right now.
131 IowaEagle said at 11:42 PM on April 26th, 2012:
After his first sack on Eli, I would love to hear “Eli better get used to seeing a lot more Cox in his face”
132 sonofdman said at 12:38 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Best one yet.
133 nickross23 said at 11:48 PM on April 26th, 2012:
Cox’s biggest strengths is penetration lol.. ok its gonna be a great season
134 Tyler Phillips said at 12:06 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Jerry Jones said Claiborne was their highest ranked prospect since Deion. commence laughter
135 trinieagle said at 12:56 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Still couldn’t believe that Cox was there… timely move by Howie and Andy trading up when they did without giving up much. Coby Fleener, George Iloka are next need some size at the Safety position especially with the evolution of the 6’06” 6’07” athletic TE of this N.F.L pass happy league. Nice Start Andy, Howie.
136 TommyLawlor said at 1:28 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Long day. Time for sleep. Will post more Cox thoughts in the AM.
Great start to the draft.
137 AnirudhJ said at 8:37 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Tommy going to sleep, dreaming about Cox.
138 Arby1 said at 9:07 AM on April 27th, 2012:
WWFS
What would Freud say?
139 Vini Gonçalves said at 2:10 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I just love this pick!!! Maybe with the cowboys didn´t go to #6 they could difficult our trade. I thought they would go DL. Don´t like they get Claiborne but at least we have our guy! Our DLine will be fantastic!!! Hope we get an LB, CB slot and a red zone target tomorrow.
140 T_S_O_P said at 2:55 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Tommy, will Cox be our best penetrating DT? Sure sounds like it!
141 Jack Bauer said at 3:38 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Seriously…we get Cox and “Heaven Can Wait” is on for the last 2-3 glasses of Evan Williams….its been a good day, I just may wake up by the start of the 2nd rd tomorrow.
142 brza said at 4:57 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Great job getting Cox without giving up a second day pick. Now I hope they continue the momentum by picking up Boykin and either Fleener, Wagner or Hill tonight. Hell now that they got Fletcher if they get 2 of those 4 I’d be elated and would not care whether they do the norm and throw away a pick on some obscure developmental player or overrated QB.
143 GermanEagle said at 5:03 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Claiborne for 1st and 2nd or Cox for 1st and 4th?!
144 Arby1 said at 9:12 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I actually think the Cowboys did better than us – getting arguably the highest ranked position player in the draft for a reasonable price.
Interesting piece inside the Rams war room on how Fisher got pissed off when the Bucs jumped ahead of them to nab Blackmon. That’s when they decided to trade out and let Dallas in. Apparently an emotional moment with him slamming his glasses down. Not a good way to make decisions during the draft. And they wanted Cox also….
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–rams-get-their-man-michael-brockers–ndash–after-their-first-two-choices-were-drafted.html
145 TheRogerPodacter said at 10:32 AM on April 27th, 2012:
anyone catch this bit?
[rams just made the trade with dallas to move back]
Before the trade was announced on ESPN or the NFL Network, Demoff had already fielded a congratulatory call from Eagles general manager Howie Roseman.
146 rage114 said at 6:43 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I’m very happy about the pick. But still can’t help but feel disappointed they didn’t get Kuechly.
Even knowing what I know now, it would not have been smart to trade up that far to get him. But still disappointed he didn’t fall farther.
Oh well. On to round 2.
Fleener is still on the board. Stephen Hill is still on the board.
Eagles still need a SAM though. Maybe the draft will be better with beer? I’ll try that tonight.
147 JC2K said at 7:07 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Mmmmm…. beer!
148 JC2K said at 6:48 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I like how Coach Washburn said in his interview on PE.com that he’s “been teaching him his whole life.” He really looks like an intense coach and I’m sure Southern guys will practice well in the Lehigh Valley summer heat & humidity. Suprised that LK went so early. What’s in rd 2 & 3? Slot CB/PR, WR, LB, TE? Hmmm… the Eagles sure have options to pick the BPA.
149 Cvd52 said at 7:47 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Maybe we should start calling him Fletcher and not Cox. Especially since his main thing that people talk about is his penetration skillz
150 JC2K said at 8:32 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I can hear it now from Merrill Reese – “Wow, did you see that move? Cox really penetrated the pocket and crushed that QB!” -)
151 Kristopher Cebula said at 8:34 AM on April 27th, 2012:
or better yet “cox penetrated the pocket and exploded through the ball carrier”
152 Eric Weaver said at 8:26 AM on April 27th, 2012:
“We had ourselves honed in on what we wanted to spend,” Reid said, “and so we weren’t going to get quite as elaborate as some did. We had other people there that we also liked if this didn’t work out. We felt we were OK and didn’t have to overspend.”
Who do we think were those guys? Jones? Kirkpatrick?
153 Mac said at 10:40 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Translation: Big Red focused squarely on Cox.
154 goeagles55 said at 8:39 AM on April 27th, 2012:
If last night hadn’t gone so perfectly I’d be upset to go to sleep at 5am because of work last night and still be up at 8 today.
155 DamonL86 said at 9:39 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Can you see us taking Vinny Curry if he is there at 46?
156 JRO91 said at 9:55 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Ja Jenkins or Boykin, Wagner in the second, and Marvin Jones in the 3rd!! 5th and two 6ths…OL, Safety and LB depth.
157 D3Keith said at 9:59 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Was in the doctor’s office just now and the copy of SI prompted mento remind the Peter King jock-riding brigade that he had us taking Coples and needing Upshaw.
The irony being that this is the one year and one guy PK should have been able to predict.
Got a chance to get to know Mike DuBose when he he took over D-III Millsaps a few years back and turned it into a power. Great guy, treated it like the big time … Heck of a southern deep voice too.
158 M0rton said at 10:10 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I’m not entirely sold on Cox as an impact DT. He didn’t really put up enough numbers in college to warrant such a high selection, in my opinion. But at least they didn’t reach for some offensive position like OT, OG, QB, or WR. That’s the plus that we can walk away with here.
I think I would rather have had Dre Kirkpatrick in the 1st and Devon Still in the 2nd, or Melvin Ingram in the 1st. But Cox has some potential, but I just think that he is a bit overrated based on his athleticism (which isn’t even that great – awful Vertical).
That having been said, the Eagles really need to knock it out of the ballpark with the 2nd round. I need to see at least ONE of the following defensive players picked in the 2nd by the Eagles:
DEs/LBs:
– Courtney Upshaw (excellent player, could play DE or maybe SLB for Eagles)
– Vinny Curry (great value pick in 2nd, could be Hugh Douglas type of DE)
– Lavonte David (excellent SLB/WLB in 4-3. could become Derrick Brooks player)
– Michael Kendricks (MLB prospect that could play SLB, nice athlete)
– Miles Burris (best LB prospect in draft, imho, wouldn’t be reach in 2nd)
CBs:
– Brandon Boykin (versatility, good cb, great returner)
– Josh Robinson (elite athlete, underrated production)
– Trumaine Johnson (interesting small school prospect)
– Janoris Jenkins (worth taking a chance on in 2nd – elite talent, bad character)
159 deg0ey said at 10:25 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I love the idea of getting Curry. It may not be realistic (given that SLB and Slot CB are probably bigger needs) but Babin/Graham/Hunt—Jenkins/Cox—Patterson/Dixon/Landri—Cole/Curry would surely have to be the best DL rotation in the league…
160 TheRogerPodacter said at 10:39 AM on April 27th, 2012:
morton isnt furious with the pick?
it MUST have been a good one, then!
161 M0rton said at 3:50 PM on April 27th, 2012:
I’m not furious, but I am underwhelmed.
If Cox was such a great DT prospect, why would Carolina pass on him for a MLB? Why would KC pass on him? Why would Seattle pass on him?
I think Cox has some potential, and he’s a good fit for Washburn’s system, but he’s hardly an elite prospect that everyone thinks he is.
He’s definitely not in the same class as Suh, or even Fairley from last year.
162 JRO91 said at 10:42 AM on April 27th, 2012:
I’ll take Bobby Wager in the 2nd over Kendricks.
163 SportiVore said at 10:21 AM on April 27th, 2012:
If we could find a way to scoop up Fleener and Janoris Jenkins in the 2nd, I’ll be ecstatic.
164 JRO91 said at 10:43 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Fleener won’t make it past the Colts…Eagles would have to move to 1st pick in the 2nd…too steep for a luxury item like Fleener. Fleener would be a safety blanket for Luck in Indy….
165 Brandon Judy said at 10:22 AM on April 27th, 2012:
Tommy must be drunk from excitement, thought we would get the 2nd and 3rd picks by now.