Needed: One Safety

Posted: February 14th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 178 Comments »

Tim Hauck. Damon Moore. Blaine Bishop. Michael Lewis. Quintin Mikell. Those are the men who played opposite of Brian Dawkins from 1999-2008. None of them was great, but they played on some great defenses (2001, 2002, 2004, 2008).

As great as it would be to have a dynamic duo like Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor or Wes Hopkins and Andre Waters, you can have a good defense with one good Safety and one solid starter.

Part of the problem in recent years is that you had Quintin Demps, Macho Harris, Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Jarrad Page and Patrick Chung trying to help each other succeed. They had no one to lean on. That’s why it was so important for the Eagles to sign Malcolm Jenkins last year and see him play well. He finally gives the Eagles a Safety they can build around.

Clearly he’s not in the same class as Dawkins, but Jenkins is a reliable veteran player. He’s going to do the right things on the court and can help the other Safety off the field. Knowing how to train and study is important for young players trying to develop.

Here are some Jenkins highlights from last year.

The Eagles must find someone to play opposite of him. This could be in free agency or the draft. But the good news is that the Eagles do have one starting spot set and that player can help the new guy.

Last year at this time the Eagles had Earl Wolff and Nate Allen atop the depth chart. That wasn’t awesome. Seeing Jenkins in place makes the task of improving the Safety position seem a heck of a lot easier.

Could this be the year the Eagles get back to having a pair of Safeties they like? Seems like forever since that has been the case.


178 Comments on “Needed: One Safety”

  1. 1 Matt Hoover said at 12:47 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Sick and tired of people acting like Allen is a complete waste of space.(I know you didn’t say that Tommy) I feel we already have 2 starting caliber Safetys to go with your articles point.
    Jenkins is a good starter, is he better then Michael Lewis or Mikell in there primes? Debate all you want but he is atleast solid to good.
    I personally feel Allen is every bit the safety a Tim Hauck or Damon Moore or Reshard Cook ever were, and at times was better, I think we already have our starters. Allen looked very good at times this year and at his worse moment wasn’t blowing coverages like in the past or missing tackles. With a new DB coach who has a history of getting the most out of players I would love nothing more then seeing him resign for another season.
    I also believe Wolff could come back a very different player with the surgery behind him and once again better coaching. He flashed as a rookie and could still be in the plans long term.
    Beyond them, Margos and the rest lack experience and in some cases upside but you can argue again Reynolds could be challenging for a spot this year now that he has his mind soley on football and not graduating plus a year on the PS might do him a world of good. I tend to believe he isn’t another CJ Gaddis wasted pick.
    I think drafting another S makes more sense then spending dollars on a FA. If we do let Allen walk, I could see us signing Rahim Moore formerly of Denver since he knows the new DB Coach from their time in Denver, he has youth on his side and flashed in Denver before the injury bug got him. And has starting experience on a super bowl team.
    Who else Bernard Pollard? Antrel Rolle? Dawan Landry? No thanks ill keep Allen another year. All 3 are older options and more of the Blaine ‘old school’ Bishop types.

  2. 2 GEAGLE said at 1:03 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    if you are honest about the safety crap around the league, you realize Nate isnt as bad as some make it out to be.. When you factor Nates price Tag into the equation and compare it to what some other crap safeties make, its probably not fair to rip the Allen signing… when you take everything into account, for what we are paying him, he has provided decent value……. But thats no longer good enough. It cant be good enough. we have been Pathetic to average on the backend for far too long. We are fortunate enough to have stolen Malcolm Jenkins last year, all we need to do is upgrade 1 safety and we finally will have a quality safety tandem in place… If we still needed 2 starting safeties, I wouldnt want to lose Nate… but we only need 1 safety, no reason why we should settle on Nate again…
    Ugrade Nate Allens spot so that we can stop talking about safeties every offseason… fortunately its a decent safety market in free agency this year, so there is realy no excuse for settling on Nate Allen again. If he wants to take a paycut and sit on our bench and provide depth, maybe come in as a 3rd safety in certain subpackages because he doesnt want to leave Philly, we can talk….. but if he wants to be a starting safety he better give Andy Reid a call

  3. 3 Cafone said at 1:08 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I don’t know man. I’ve been defending Allen for years, hoping he would get back to that promise he showed in his rookie year. He was a disappointment this past season.

  4. 4 GermanEagle said at 1:55 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Indeed, enough with the Allen crap. lol.

  5. 5 Matt Hoover said at 2:06 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    But then I believe Kareem Jackson not Byron Maxwell is the best Fa CB fit for us. That wont be a popular opinion either. I like Maxwell, but question can he stay healthy, how does he play outside the comforts of that Defense, he would become big man on campus here and that scares the hell out of me if we give him a max deal.

  6. 6 GEAGLE said at 4:23 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    what leads you to believe that a 5’10 corner is the best fit for us when coaches have made it clear they want height and length on the outside? there is no evidence whatsoever that points to a willingness to make an exception for a 5’10 corner on the outside. sure we can say that its possible, but there is nothing we can point to since chip arrived that would lead us to think we would be willing to make an exception for a 5’10 corner, let alone make a significant financial investement on a 5’10 corner
    Its also not a lock that Kareem even reaches free agency. Texans corner Joseph is getting older, and has been out spoken about wanting them to retain Kareem. I assume its financially easier for the Texans to keep Kareem from reaching the open market than it is for seattle to keep Maxwell off the market… not sure why the Texans would want to lose him…

    personally the corner i expect to become an eagle is Davon House….. but i would love to be wrong, and i would be a much much happier fan if we signed Maxwell, or the 5’10 Kareem who has started for like 5 seasons instead of settling on Davon House, projecting that he will be able to hold down the staring spot once given the opportunity…
    Maxwell, Kareem, Cromartie, Revis all are way more established as quality outside CBs/… I WOULD SO MUCH RATHER SEE ONE OF THOSE NAMES IN AN EAGLES JERSEY NEXT YEAR, but my guess is Davon House is the corner we are getting. Seems to be chip kellys cup of Tea IMO. and I also think there is a good chance Davon actually reaches the free agent market where as some of the top names will sign extensions and never become free agents.

    Chip Kelly has the Power now, but IMO he has always had the power. these past two years I do not believe that howie added a single player that Chip didnt want. So if I believe chip was getting what he wanted all along, i probably shouldnt expect much change now that there was technically a shake up in the front office….. If Howie was giving chip everything he wanted and if chip was calling the shots all along, then I look at all the moves that have been made under chip pertinent to this discussion:

    1) Signed 6’0-6’1 Cary Williams, Long, Physical corner that can Tackle who came from a good locker room(superbowl champion Ravens) Cary was a bench player, played some ST, but was thrust into the starting lineup that year due to injuries and started all the way thru to the superbowl win, winning games where Brady and Manning tried to pick on him..A guy we projected would flourish during his next contract who just needed an opportunity and some experience..
    2) Signed Brad Fletcher, 6’0 200lbs, Physical corner who can tackle.. bounced around between starter and bench player as his play fluctuated.. we thought he would be someone who would flourish during his next contract once given an opportunity and some experience…
    3) Signed Nolan Carrol 6’1 205lbs. physical corner who can tackle.. Came into the league in 2010, got his first starting CB experience during the 2012 when a starter got injured.. backup./some starting experience, a guy we thought would flourish once given an opportunity during his next contract… Bet anyone ANYTHING They want that unless he gets injured, Nolan will be one of our strarting outside corners in September. Ill take any bet on that!

    they refuse to play Boykin outside due to lack of height, and Kareem is established starter who will cost a ton because he started 5 years,. what makes you think we would pay a ton to a corner who doesnt fit what we clearly look for?

  7. 7 Will said at 8:38 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    too short…

  8. 8 Matt Hoover said at 11:19 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    For some reason I remember reading Kareem was 5’11.

  9. 9 unhinged said at 5:32 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Allen was a late attendee to more than one Dez/Fletcher tango, and it’s hard to believe that coaches told him to play the middle between Bryant and Witten. I do not think Nate Allen is a waste of space, but he has been exposed as safe for any QB that can look him off.

  10. 10 GEAGLE said at 6:09 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    bernard Pollard? antrel Rolle? Landry? are you purposely listing the free agent safeties that we would have no interest in?

    i would so much rather tell Nate to Piss off, take his 2mil or howmuch ever he makes, add another 3mil a year to it, and sign Searcy or Moore rather than draft a safety… The Notion of draftingf a safety and penciling him in to start in september of his rookie year makes my blood boil…. and if somehow McCourty ends up on the market, better break the piggy bank open

  11. 11 Matt Hoover said at 11:20 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Moore for that much? Mile High Miracle ring a bell?

  12. 12 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 4:45 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    U have to admit 5-6 years ago that might have been a good trio of

    I wanted Weddle to play on this team , Im ok with Whoever they want opposite Jenkins as long as its someone different. Constantly trying to make it work with Late Allen is not proving effective.

  13. 13 Will said at 8:16 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    They don’t call him Late Nate for no reason man is always late to the play . Nate is terrible back there…Safety Ron Parker for 2015…

  14. 14 Matt Hoover said at 1:41 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Parker is versatile and would appeal to Kelly in that way.

  15. 15 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 4:42 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Allen is a complete waste of space. He made a few plays last year. He also missed way more than he made.

  16. 16 GEAGLE said at 12:57 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Jenkins clearly isnt Dawk, but I think he is much better than most people seem to give credit for(no one in specific in mind)… for the most part, he was Phillys Dream safety at the beginning of the season when he was ballhawking INTs.. but once the INT drought hi him, fans werent as thrilled with him, which is a shame, Int totals really dont define the play of a safety

    I thought Jenkins had as good of a first year as i could hope for from a safety. With that said, I highly doubt we have seen his best yet in this scheme. just because he is very smart and was able to pick up our scheme so quickily that he was able to QB the front 7 in his first year, once he gets some continuity in this scheme, a really smart safety football brain will start working even faster, and that extra split second faster recognizing whats going on, should be enough to realy elevate his game another notch…. Im really really excited about seeing Malcolms year two in this scheme.

    Remember the leap in Quality of play Barwin made from his first year as an eagle to his second?… Jenkins has another “Notch” to turn it up to that we havent seen yet… If we can actually improve the safety linning up next to him, it would be a huge boost for our defense this year…

    part of it is Witten getting older and his game starting to decline, but damn it felt good to watch Jenkins completely blanket Witten so that Romo couldnt even consider throwing wittens way,,, part of it im sure was wittens skills deteriorating, but i dont care… finally I got to watch a safety completely remove Witten from the Eagles vs. Dallas equation,…. really excited about Malcolms year two in this defense…

    hopefully Malcolm serves as a learning lesson for our smart community. 365 days ago, people were ripping even the thought of the eagles signing him, mostly due to PFF’s silly evaluations of the kid…season started and he quickily proved how useless PFF can be (yes they can also do some good I know)…. the point is, we need to be smarter than the typical fans who only think the 2 biggest names at each positions are the only targets that can help us… there will be free agent available who havent played their best ball yet. The Gems you really hope to find are the ones that are just now realizing their full potential who will end up playing there best during the duration of this next contract we will sign them to… The Davon House, Virgil type of names, who we wont see in the top 5 free agent available at each position lists, but who could end up being awesome signing like Barwin and Jenkins( I assume Nolan Carrol will also prove to be one of those quality signings next year)

  17. 17 anon said at 7:20 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Jenkins was ok, not a playmaker but also not getting abused (that we saw). I think he’s a good no. 2, i’d rather have a better guy next to him. OR a rook that looks like he’ll be a stud.

  18. 18 GEAGLE said at 7:29 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    think he turns it up a notch in year 2… i philosophical dont really believe its possible to see the best a player has to offer in year one of a scheme. I seen too many really smart football minds, and amazing players who i respect so much who friggin swear by the importance of continuity both in the scheme and gelling with your team mates.. I dont believe its possible to have seen Jenkins best yet. the only reason we could have possibly seen his best IMO is if he now suffers an injury and is never athletically the same, or if he was reaching an old age where his skills start to deteriorate… those issues dont concern Malcolm so i dont believe its possible to have seen his best ball yet… look at any of your favorite players last year, most likely they played better than the year before, Barwin, Bennie, Cox, Ced, Vinny, Kendricks, Meco, Cole, BG… continuity matters….. of course there are special circumstances like Riley Coop

  19. 19 anon said at 7:43 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    No doubt he’ll be more scheme sound, but will that make him a better catcher? Be interested if there was film breakdown of him in coverage.

  20. 20 GEAGLE said at 7:50 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    a Jug machine… the same thing that has made hundreds and thousand of players better catchers… something that costs thousands of dollars designed specifically to make jenkins a better catcher lol…. and if thats not enough go Jerry Rice’s daddys route and throw friggin bricks at him for all i care 🙂

  21. 21 anon said at 7:51 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    him and Riley Cooper can play catch

  22. 22 Cafone said at 1:05 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Tommy, during one of your recent podcasts with Kempski, you did not speak favorably about Jenkins’ play as the season wore on. Have you altered that opinion in further hindsight?

  23. 23 GermanEagle said at 1:53 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I haven’t listened to the podcast, but I do agree with this sentiment.

    While Jenkins had a pro bowl like first third of the season, his play dropped towards the end where he was just adequate in my eyes.

    Overall a good FA signing, but not as great as some want it to be.

  24. 24 BlindChow said at 2:14 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Plus he dropped a lot of potential pick-sixes.

  25. 25 GermanEagle said at 2:21 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    That’s why I said ‘his play dropped’. 😉

  26. 26 Media Mike said at 1:21 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Shame the tandem isn’t Glover Quin and Malcolm Jenkins. This nonsense would be already solved.

  27. 27 GEAGLE said at 1:35 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    would be a great Mirrored Tandem…

    Glover, McCourty, Gipson, George Iloka would be the perfect mirrored compliments to Jenkins..

    i guess there is a smidget of hope that Revis pricetag costs the Patriots McCourty but i just cant envision bellichek losing him and being left with chung lol.

    make a serious offer to Browns restricted Free Agent Gipson, if they match it, which i would assume, maybe they would be receptive working out a trade, depending on if he is being receptive to their attempts at getting a long term extension done, or if he is going the Searcy route, telling his team he wont re sign without testing the open market in which case, maybe the browns are receptive to trading him.

    cant pry Gipson away from the Browns, Lock up Searcy Long term, allegedly he has the character, work ethic, good team mate that would appeal to our “culture”… Davon House is the corner who’s character probably best fits our “culture

  28. 28 Media Mike said at 1:37 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I think you’ve got a good list of names.

  29. 29 GEAGLE said at 1:54 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    think i got a solid grasp on the safety situation, but Im really struggling with fixing the cornerback position..
    we dont all agree on much, but think its safe to say that Byron Maxwell sits at the top of every single eagles fans cornerback wish list…. but Im struggling with figuring out the hierarchy after Maxwell…

    how do people Rank the free agent corners in terms of PRICETAG that they will command? Obviously Maxwell gets the richest contract, but after Maxwell who gets the second richest contract? 3rd? 4th? 5th? i struggle figuring out how to rank the corners after max…
    How does everyone Rank the corners on the Mock “Eagles wish list”? For example, Cromartie is going to be on the top 5 richest CB contract ranking list, but I doubt he will appear as one of the top 5 corners on the Eagles wish list… not that it really matters, Cromartie is Headed for the Jets, he is a lock to follow Todd Bowles, who simply cant run his defense with the corners currently on the Jets…
    I think its safe for Eagles fans to rule Cromartie out When Patrick Peterson says something like “all cromartie talks about these days is his freaking excitement for returning to the Jets”.. Petersons exact words (I would have said “Friggin” lol)

    so… how do people rank the CBs that will get the TOP 5 richest contracts this year?
    How do people Mock the Eagles top 5 free agent CB wish list? /………..
    keep in mind the Eagles top 5 CB wish list is going to be diferent from the list of overall the top 5 best CBs available. For example, Davon House probably wont make the top 5 richest cornerback list, or the top 5 best free agent CB list, but he will probably appear on the Eagles top 5 CB wish list…

  30. 30 Matt Hoover said at 1:58 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Nice names but I don’t see us ‘bidding’ on any resticted free agents. Just a hunch tho
    I do think McCourty is a huge name that any NFL team looking for Safety help will want. Do we pay his price and gamble on a cheaper FA option at CB?

  31. 31 GEAGLE said at 2:54 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    assume McCourty gets franchised… No one ever bids on restricted free agents, so that nots exactly going out on a limb.. tho Im tired of the collusion between owner that makes restricted free agents irrelevant… screw the unwritten agreement and start trying to Poach RFA’s as far as im concerned.. i dont like how RFA is practically non exsistent in the NFL

    Da’Norris Searcy is the safety I assume we will sign and start

  32. 32 GEAGLE said at 1:28 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    How we go about Fixing the safety position once and for all?
    when I look at this offseason as a whole it seems significantly easier to fix our safety trouble, than it will be to fix our CB problem. I do think this will finally be the year we get back to the days when we have two safeties we like on the field… Safety has been a problem for far too long, and this is a decent market opportunity to fix this decade long problem once and for all…

    We are fortunate that we have a bunch of young safeties already being groomed by our coaches and strength conditioning training. This is significant because it allows us the flexibility to fix our safety problem via Free Agency or the draft. Where as for Example: No matter how many free agent outside CBs we sign, we have no choice but to spend draft picks on outside CBs, because we have ZERO youth at that position. at every position you need a combo of players you can count on now, and young players being groomed for the future.. We have Boykin and Jaylen but I dont really count them as outside CBs and it seems that the eagles dont count them either…signing free agent corners wont keep us from having to spend draft picks on getting some youth in at that position….. This is why I think the Safety position is much easier for us to fix…

    we have 3-4 young safeties in our pipeline already being developed by our coaches and strength and conditioning trainers, so in Theory we could sign a free agent safety, and not spend any draft picks on safeties this year, which may not be a bad idea. we have Wolff(who i think its foolish to rule out now that we know he has been suffering from Knee legions for two years), still have Ed Reynolds, the kid we signed from the Lions, and I also would put Jaylen watkins in the mix with the young safeties. thinking Jaylen will get to compete at safety and Dime corner, replacing Nolan who i assume will start on the outside….. im not telling fans they should be counting on a kid like Ed Reynolds, but just because we havent seen him yet, dont think we can automatically rule him out. We havent seen Taylor Hart yet, and i can guarantee he is very much in the Eagles plans, so you cant automatically rule out Ed…… we have a nice group of young safeties, might be a good idea to not draft any more this year, let them battle it out in camp and spend this year really figuring out what we have in our stable of young safeties and what we still need… and if it turns out we dont like how any of our young safeties are coming along, we can go back to drafting a safeties next year..

    So really, we could sign 1 quality starting Caliber Safety in Freen agency, and be done with the position til next offseason… sign a starter to play next to jenkins, Searcy, Rahim, whoever, or maybe even try to work out a trade for a young safety… for example I dont know what restricted Free agent Tashuan Gipson thinks about staying in cleveland. Is he happy to make cleveland his home as sign on to stay there long term? or does he want out, and is just playing the waiting game til the Browns no longer control him contractually? even tho Gipson is restricted, i think we can safely assume cleveland is already trying to work out a long term deal.. how are those talks going? is he receptive to spending another 5 years in cleveland? Or is he one of the young players that cant wait to hit the open market and get out of their current situation like Da’Norris Searcy? if a kid like Gipson isnt being very receptive in contract extension talks and makes it clear to the Browns he wont sign any long term deal until he reaches free agency, maybe the Browns become more receptive to a trade and try to getr value for him before losing him for nothing…. maybe they dont match the contract a team offers him, and takes the draft pick they tendered him for…

    We really need to Prioritize finding Jenkins starting running mate.. need a quality well rounded starting safety in the 24-27yr old range..

    sign your starting safety, solidify the starting safety position once and for all, spend your draft picks adressing other needs and we go into training camp with for example, Jenkins, Searcy, and Maragos… and let all the young safeties battle it out for the last two safety spots: Reynolds, Wolff, Jaylen, Prosinski, kid from Lions Couplin or something like that, whatever undrafted safety we pick up…. and then in Next years draft we will know if we need to add young safeties or if our current young safeties are progressing nicely.

    There are affordable, veteran safety options available. No reason to not solidify this damn nightmare position once and for all

  33. 33 Matt Hoover said at 2:00 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Yeah if you let them battle it out a guy like Wolff or Reynolds who we drafted may surprise us all, however in that scenario I would rather Allen or an aging Vet sign with the team as insurance. A vet like George Wilson maybe, just a name that came to mind.

  34. 34 GEAGLE said at 2:51 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    rather sign Searcy, start him and Jenkins…and let all the young bucks duke it out for depth spots, and if we dont end up liking any of our young safeties we can draft more next season…

  35. 35 GEAGLE said at 1:40 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    saw on Twitter that the Eagles defense was one of the top Tackling Units in the NFL…

    Gotta tip our hats to Billy Davis and his staff. They inherited the worst tackling defense in the history of this city and two years later they already whipped us into one of the better tackling units. The best part is they were able to coach us up to improve our tackling without having our guys beat up on each other in camp and practice. we rarely ever tackle at practice, mostly everything is practiced using “THUDS”.. gone are the days of andy reid having his players beat each others bodies up.. our coaches are able to coach us up, while preserving our bodies and lessoning the odds for injuries in practice…

    Gotta respect the job our defensive staff is doing… year 3, i expect the bggest leap in our defense

  36. 36 GEAGLE said at 2:10 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Really struggling to understand this years CB market. Every Eagle fan knows who the top guy is, but after Maxwell there is no consensus 2nd best CB option for the Eagles..

    No CB Im struggling with more than Kareem Jackson. If he was 6’0-6’2 this would be alot easier. But I have no clue how the eagles will view Kareem who doesnt match the measurables we look for at that position. I didnt make those measurement rules, and its easy for us to say, who cares that he isnt 6’0, lets just go sign a 5’10 corner, but No One has any info that would suggest that the Eagles will be willing to stick a 5’10 corner on the outside. and if we havent been willing to stick a 5’10 corner on the outside its hard to assume we would be willing to make a significant financial commitment on a 5’10 outside corner…… when it comes to those desired measurements, will they Keep this corner off our wish list, if not, where on our wish list rankikngs does he land?

    I know Kareem is one of the best Corners available. I know he can play inside and out. I know it would be easy to recruit him with all the Texans on our Roster, I know that Kareem and Marynowitz were together at Alabama… but I have no friggin clue How the eagles view this kid and its really frustrating me…
    Its easy to say, Eagles would LOVE Maxwell, or Eagles wont even consider Cromartie, but I really have no idea what the Eagles will think of this kid.

    One Thing we need to keep in mind. Its a mistake to always assume that having inside info on a player is always a good thing. Thats not always the case. Marynowitz knowing Kareem since The Bama days means he could have some inside info that would make him really appeal to us, OR he could have inside info that he is lazy, selfish teammate, wouldnt fit our culture,,Im not saying we have bad info on Kareem, but we always assume that Marynowitz having inside intel on Kareem, or the new DB coach having inside Intel on Rahim Moore is a good thing, when that inside Info could just as easily remove him from our draft board as it could make the kid appeal to us more…

    how do people View Kareem Jackson in terms of Mocking how the Eagles will view him?
    would he be top 5 on our CB wish list, if so where in the top 5 does he fall?
    Where will he rank on the top 5 most expensive free agent corners?
    I despise Alabama DBs, but i think its probably safe to say Kareem is the best Corner saban produced since 2010, and Clinton Dix is probably the best Safety Saban produced since 2010

  37. 37 unhinged said at 5:22 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    The best corner in the league is 5’11 (Revis) and some of the best cover corners are like 5’9 (Grimes, Janoris Jenkins, Finnegan). At some point the ideal has to wait on the best available. Watkins is our lone young CB, but I’d like to see them get somebody they are high on round 2 or later. Jackson would be sight for sore eyes.

  38. 38 GEAGLE said at 6:20 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    you dont have to convince me mate.,.. im not the one who set these measurement parameters, and im not the one who thinks a 5’10 CB cant get it done. Tho I admit I like these parameters because its what the man I trust more than anyone in EAGLES HISTORY used to believe in, Mr. Jim JOhnson, best coach in the history of Philly sports.. he agrees with Chips philosophy and my what would Jim Johnson Bracelet do, approves lol…. … All i know is so far since chip arrived, on multiple occasions he talked about the outside corners needing to be 6 foot and Physical willing tacklers, and since chip arrived, there have been 5 times THAT THEORY has been put to the TEST and ALL FIVE times point to chip meaning what he said…
    5 examples of proof:
    1) signing Cary
    2) Signing Bradley
    3) Signing Nolan
    4) Refusal to play Boykin who many say is the best corner on our roster outside
    5) and that trend will continue with Jaylen Watkins who best case scenario for him is winning the starting safety spot, worst case scenario(most realistic) is him starting at DIME corner. we will not be seeing the ki don the outside except for rare cases when injuries pile up and we have no choice

    5 Times this has been put to the test, and NOT ONE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE

    I know Kareem is one of the best outside corners available, but so where sheilds and Grimes and we had no interest in them..Kareem is one of the best options available, but there is no precedent for chip willing to compromise on that outside CB Height, so its really hard for me to make such a big leap to thinking we will make a significant financial investment in a 5’10 CB… i just dont have a shred of anything that points to that even being possible..and if that is so possible, does that also mean that Flowers and Buster skrine are all of the sudden in play too?

  39. 39 Avery Greene said at 7:31 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Here’s an idea. Maybe they really do like Boykin in the slot. We get a 2nd Safety that plays smarter, and we put him on the outside. Maybe Chip has measurables, but willing to forgo for a better athlete.

    Yeah this is how it’s playing out in my mind, but I would think having the better athlete over the lesser athlete that fits the measurable is the better thing.

    Chip doesn’t strike me as someone who’s rigid to a certain philosophy and makes do with what he has, so maybe we something a bit different this year that goes against the grain for what he generally likes.

  40. 40 GEAGLE said at 7:37 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    maybe,,. i also assume that chip is still growing as an NFL coach, we probably havent seen his best as an NFL coach yet,. Seems to self evaluate alot and constantly trying to learn from mistakes… since he most likely is still evolving as an NFL coach, you are absolutely right, its possible maybe he changes some of his rules, and philosophies going forward due to the results of his trail and errors as a pro coach these past two year, you make a solid point,. and you are absolutely right…. but i cant expect him to amend certain restrictions until I see a willingness…

    like I said Kareem is one of the better corners who could hit the market… Id Rather have 5’10 Kareem next year, than 6ft Bradley Fletcher back, so hopefully Kareem is in play for us,I certainly didnt put these 6ft restrictions on our corners lol…..damn sure hope Kareem is an option for us since its already slim picking on this years market at the CB spot, i just have no reason to believe it to be the case until i see itl i literally dont have a shred of evidence to go by that gives me hope that it could be possible..

  41. 41 Avery Greene said at 8:05 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I think after the draft we’ll have an idea of what he’s thinking. We’d see what FAs he went after and who is top 3 picks are.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go after (in no particular order) if the position is available: OL, ILB, BPA – depending on the grade and availability of players.

    I think he wants to get younger on the offensive line and wouldn’t be mad at two picks in the first 3 rounds if the talent is right. We definitely need a clone of Kendricks, because I think that will take this defense to the next level.

    I say BPA because I think this team is solid throughout, so no need to reach for a need when there might be a really good player that can come in and contribute and ready to take over when someone else has to step back. Maybe a 2nd OLB so that both MS2 and the new pick are starting in a couple years. Or a DE if they think they can get a stud. This isn’t knocking Thornton, but if we got a Cox clone on the other side that would be dominant.

    In my mind this is all dependent on Mac coming back. Mac, Matthews, Huff is an nice tandem. Ertz and Burton are set. I like that this team is pretty young throughout.

  42. 42 GEAGLE said at 11:30 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I mainly look at the draft as a long term building tool, so I’m usually down with the BPA. If we can put me next years team tougher in free agency and address out mjor holes we can go in the draft just taking advantage of the best value that’s on the board. No matter what, we are forced to add young outside CH via the draft since we don’t have any young outside corners on our roster being groomed by coaches. Rookie corners suck, you really have to draft a CB atleast 1 year before you will have to count on him: we can’t wait any longer to add young outside CB talent.
    We have talent our coaches are currently developing at just about every position. Besides outside Corners. So even if we sign the two best corners on the market, we still have to draft a CB this year to start grooming

    we better address all our starting needs in free agency so we dont have to count on rookies

  43. 43 anon said at 7:42 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    he’s been pretty rigid with Boykin outside, though Boykin hasn’t played that well when he’s been outside.

  44. 44 Avery Greene said at 7:52 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I don’t think Boykin was a 100% this year. He didn’t seem to have that “burst” that he did last year.

  45. 45 anon said at 7:59 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    agree — seemed like a lot of people were banged up, reports of McCoy’s trurf toe, Polk missed TC, Riley Cooper, etc.

  46. 46 Avery Greene said at 8:06 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    It’s funny how these things work out. Last year we were lucky that we had so few TOs, this year not so much. Last year we were really lucky with injuries, this year not so much.

  47. 47 anon said at 8:08 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    yeah 10-6 with the adversity this year isn’t terrible. Would have liked to see us beat SF, SEA or ARZ but next year (1-7 vs NFC and AFC West) I think we could make a run.

  48. 48 Avery Greene said at 8:14 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Both the AZ and SF games hurt because those were both winnable.

  49. 49 Matt Hoover said at 11:22 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Maybe it was a Lovett thing wanting bigger CBs, maybe Underlin will be okay with someone shorter?

  50. 50 Rockedupeaglesfan said at 12:05 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Do you have a link on the turf toe report?

  51. 51 Matt Hoover said at 12:12 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    the more I study and read up on Davon House the more I like. Wow

  52. 52 mksp said at 2:24 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    My guess for Eagles moves in the secondary:

    Cary Williams, Bradley Fletcher and Nate Allen are all out.

    Kareem Jackson and Ron Parker are in.

    Fan base collectively sighs and complains, but both add depth and help stabilize.

    Eagles add a CB in the 2nd / 3rd round.

    Don’t draft a S early, figuring between Ron Parker, Earl Wolff and Jerome Couplin a starter emerges next to Jenkins. Not a great class either. Maybe draft a guy like James Sample (Louisville) in the 4th or 5th for more competition / depth.

  53. 53 Mitchell said at 3:28 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I actually think the safety class is a lot better than last year.

  54. 54 RobNE said at 2:52 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I’m going to be traveling out of the country for the 2nd straight year during the draft. It’s sad to miss, but coming back to all the IB posts, each with 1,500 comments, is a lot of fun. I think with Chip really in charge there may be some wtf moments.

  55. 55 SteveH said at 10:11 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Surely you can follow online though right? I’m going to be out of the country as well but I sure as heck plan on following the feed.

    Where are you traveling to?

  56. 56 Mitchell said at 3:27 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    You can start to solve the safety problem with a couple of names Smith, Geathers, Harris and Drummond!

  57. 57 GEAGLE said at 3:40 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    i would rather not spend any more picks on safeties til we find out what we have in wolff, Watkins, Couplin, and Reynolds… if we sign a starting safety to play with Jenkins, plus maragos on the bench, we would have 2 roster spots for those young players to duke it out for in training camp, when two of those young safeties win a roster spot, our coaches will get another season to evaluate the two that make the roster. we will either be looking at wolff in year 3, or Reynolds or Jenkins in year two, either way by the end of next season we should have an idea if they will be eventual starters, capable bench players, or players who arent good enough and need to be replaced?

    right now we have too many safeties that we have no clue about, i would take the year to take inventory of the position. figure out exactly what we have and what we are missing before we go dumping more draft picks into the position….,.. especially since we have no choice but to spend draft picks on corners…. secondary is a weakness, but its not the only unit that requires our attention in the draft…
    and people NEED to stop viewing the draft as a tool to fill NEXT YEARS holes… NEXT YEARS starting positions need to be adressed in free agency… i dont care how much i like a safety prospect, i dont believe in drafting a kid and penciling him in as a day 1 starter. anything we get from a rookie is a bonus… If we are going to cut Cary and Brad, we need to SIGN 1 starting Corner to play opposite of Nolan in september… and if we let Nate walk we have no choice but to sign a safety who will start in september…

    i like Drummond too, but i wouldnt even consider him or any rookie safety as a starting solution for next season… have to sign next years starter, if you want to draft one of those safeties it needs to be for the Future, NOT for next season… and IMO we already have a handful of 4th and 5th round safeties whos future we still need to fugure out….
    Sign a safety, draft your corners…… we have plenty of young safeties for our coaches to work with for a year, and we have NO YOUNG OUTSIDE Corners being groomed by our coaches… so sign the safety, draft the corner, In my humble opinion of course,…

    i like Drummond, but if we sign Da’Norris Searcy or Rahim Moore, i would so much rather adress other positions with our draft pick than draft another young safety after we drafted one each year for the past few seasons..

  58. 58 Mitchell said at 4:00 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    We need young talent in the secondary in general. We can’t expect a bunch of 5th round picks to pans out. So if a safety is there, taken him. I don’t expect him to contribute right away either.

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 4:46 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    i dont expect a bunch of 5th round picks to pan out… but I would like to think that out of the three or four rd 4/5 safeties on our roster, one or two of them end up panning out: If NO ONE emerges out of Wolff, Jaylen, Reynolds, Couplin, Prosinski, then we friggin Suck! lol

    I think we have enough young inexperienced safeties fighting over roster spots that there are better ways to spend draft picks instead of adding another 3rd or 4th round safety in a draft where we already are forced to spend 1, if not 2 draft picks on a cornerback… I wish secondary was our ONLY problem, but its not… If we pay for a starting safety, i think its absurd to also invest a draft pick in the safety position

  60. 60 Mitchell said at 5:34 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Hopefully Undlin can bring something new to our DB group and they can all get better next year.

  61. 61 GEAGLE said at 5:59 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    i hear that! hey atleast he seemed to do a decent job with a young Safety like Rahim, and a young corrner like Chris Harris who both are getting paid from their work with Undlin….. Denver also seemed to do well with the free agent DBs it brought in like Taliq and Ward…. hopefully he is the man to start whipping our secondary into shape
    if we were to only add players due to past connections.. Undlin would bring Rahim Moore, and Marynowitz would bring Kareem Jackson… Not a bad free agent haul LOL

  62. 62 Insomniac said at 4:03 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Going to be interesting to see how those DBs work out in the combine.

  63. 63 Mitchell said at 4:07 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I’m happy we get to get into the next part of the offseason. Things will start getting just a bit more solidified, in terms of what players are “worth.”

  64. 64 Insomniac said at 4:10 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Yup. I don’t think there’s going to be a Jarvis Jones/Manti Te’o/Michael Sam story line this year though.

  65. 65 GEAGLE said at 4:50 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    especially at certain positions you really need the combine to start separating the prospetcs…we have a good idea who the top guys are at positions where speed is important like WR, CB, S, but after the top guys its really hard to rank the mid level guys. combine is a big help…. heck, Im just happy to get some official measurements considering how bad colleges lie about kids heights… this time last year Calvin Pryor was 6’3 LOL HE WISHES!! His Agent wishes!! lol

  66. 66 GEAGLE said at 5:03 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    how do you think they will rank on the Eagles board? cool to see our ratings now, and we can go back after the combine and see if our ratings would drastically change after we get the combine data..
    i would guess:
    1) Harris
    2) Drummond
    3) Gaethers
    4) Smith

    also Love Eric Rowe and Byron Jones (Uconn) just not sure of their position yet in the secondary

    Im REALLY INTERSTED in taking a closer look at the Syracuse Safety Durell Esckridge. Not sure if anyone caught any syracuse games…
    and I have no idea if the Tartt kid from SAMFORD is any good or not..

  67. 67 GEAGLE said at 3:28 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    You need A BALANCE between veterans who can play now, and young players being groomed at each position. Its all about finding a balance of youth and veterans at each position, and its all about allocating a certain amount of money to invest in a position as a whole,…….. The Eagles are fortunate that they have that balance at the safety position where as we dont have a single young outside cornerback on our roster, so we have no choice but to spend draft picks on outside corners regardless of whether we sign corners in free agency or not…

    since we already have to spend draft picks on corners, might be a good idea to not draft any more safeties this year. Ideally we sign our starting safety that solidifies the position once and for all with Jenkins, and Maragos, and we use this year to figure out exactly what we have in our young safeties on the bench.

    Sign Searcy to start next to Jenkins, Maragos as our backup/ST leader, and we have two other roster spots. Let Wolff, Reynolds, Watkins, Couplin battle it out for the last two safety spots…. then after this next season if we arent happy with the two young safeties we ended up keeping, we can dump more draft picks into the position…. but for now, think we should take a break and use a year to figure out exactly what we have and what we dont have in our stable of young safeties and it couldnt come at a better time since we have no choice but to dump draft picks into the corner position..
    I dont really see much of a point in signing a starter like Searcy and also bringing back Nate… even if you want to play alot of 3 safety subpackages, I imagine Wolff in year 3, after being given the time to get Healthy can hold down the 3rd safety spot, if not Wolff, then Jaylen Watkins will be able to play a 3rd safety role this year now that he is no longer a rookie…

    Its not like we have to give Searcy some 40 million dollar deal… I assume a similar contract that what the steelers gave to 1 hit wonder Mike mitchell last year is the ballbark contract of what it takes to get Searcy.. He will be cheaper than it took to sign Jenkins.. ..

    if we want to look at the safety position as accurately as we possibly can we need to:
    A) make sure we have a good balance of youth, and veterans
    B) Make sure we arent spending too much on a position as a whole. Every team has a bluepringt for how much they can invest in each position

    best option i see that will be available for us and we dont have to worry about getting Franchised or anything like that has to be Searcy.. Im sure Rahim is in the mix too, but we cant be sure Denver will let him get away, but we can count on Searcy not playing for the bills next year..
    Regardless, I assume Searcy and Rahim would be in the same ball park price tag.. Searcy wont make more than Jenkins, and his pricetag is perfectly affordable, so we could sign a kid like Searcy/Rahim, add in Jenkins money, plus Maragos modest contract and then we give the last 2 roster spots to young players still on cheap rookie contracts that arent even first 3 round contracts. Any combo of two players would work: Wolff, Watkins, the kid from Detroit and Reynolds… two of those players would be cheap 4th or 5th round rookie contracts, add in Maragos money, Jenkins money and you absolutely have room to pay a starting safety like Rahim or Da’Norris…. signing one of those safeties would fit in terms of having a balance of youth and veterans at the safety position and im sure signing one would fit how much we are willing to allocate for the safety position as a whole…
    really No Reason not to pay for a starting safety in free agency as long as we carry Maragos modest contract and two cheap rookie contracts like Wolff and Reynolds….. it will probably fit from a roster building point of view

  68. 68 Mitchell said at 4:15 PM on February 14th, 2015:


    Round 1 Pick 20: Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Anthony Harris, SS/FS, Virginia (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (D+)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Durrell Eskridge, FS/SS, Syracuse (C-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 20: James Sample, SS, Louisville (F)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Erick Dargan, SS, Oregon (F)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Justin Cox, FS, Mississippi State (F)

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 5:17 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    what you know about Durrell Eskridge? he is high on my list of players i need to get educated on…i dont even remember the last time i saw Cuse play… You know Dargan is coming, hopefully we dont draft the focker in the 4th round or anything crazy lol

  70. 70 Mitchell said at 5:33 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Saw him play quite a bit of single high. Not a very good tackler but from what I saw was able to diagnose fakes well. Decent in coverage and has good ball skills. 4th would be the highest I would take him. Granted all this information was 2-3 months ago and I probably need to watch again.

  71. 71 GEAGLE said at 5:41 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Thanks… you think his height is legit? surprised to hear that Cuse had the 6’3 safety who isnt a strong safety. hoping to see him at the combine, didnt check if he was invited or not.,… wonder how he compares in coverage to those CB/S prospects with size like Rowe and the kid from Uconn…
    If we are going to end up with Dargan on our Roster hopefully he surprises at the combine
    find it kind of interesting how we are so strict about 6ft 6’1 outside corners (atleast we have been so far), but we are ok with 5’10 safeties, especially since we are so strict about our safeties needing to be able to match up against big TE’s… would love to hear chip explain his thinking

  72. 72 Mitchell said at 5:45 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    He looks pretty tall to me. His instincts look pretty decent as well. He seems to be around the ball a lot. I didn’t get a feel for his man skills. Biggest weakness is he is WAY to easy to block and a sloppy tackler.

  73. 73 GEAGLE said at 5:55 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    thanks again…. sloppy tackler is a weakness im willing to deal with.. heck, every defender that was here in 2012 was a sloppy tackler lol, two years later without tackling each other in practice we boast one of the best tackling defenses in the NFL… If the kid is a willing tackler, a physical player, we can fix the tecnique, take care of the sloppy, teach him to shed blocks better… if he sloppy at tackling because he doesnt like to tackle, thats a problem.,… but if he is physical we can mold that

  74. 74 Mitchell said at 5:57 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    He is physical just sloppy. Also, I just learned he played half the season with a torn ligament in his hand and he is leaving school early to help his family financially, they were homeless for some of his childhood. It sounds like a Chip guy.

  75. 75 GEAGLE said at 6:04 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    NICE INFO… im def going to end up taking a look at him… a 6’3 safety next to 6’1 Jenkins would be nice in center field…

  76. 76 GEAGLE said at 5:22 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    If Arik Armstead some how falls to #20, i doubt the Eagles let him continue to fall…we have Taylor Hart, Oregon DE, if we end up Drafting Armstead, another Oregon DE you would think we would be done lol, but next year, I assume we will ADORE Deforest Buckner lol im not even joking, yes I think Chip is this sick in the head lol… by the beginning of the 2017 season, we could be looking at Bennie and Beau as the NT’s, Cox, ARMSTEAD, BUCKNER, HART as our DE rotation lol…. Azzinaros Lost Boys will be our DL…. Im not sure if i should Laugh or Cry at this….

  77. 77 Brian Pillion said at 6:00 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    This is only a test of the disqus system, insofar as it appears to be malfunctioning, renaming all posters GEAGLE. Am I also GEAGLE? It’s hard to say.

  78. 78 GEAGLE said at 6:05 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    sitting on an airport floor for the past 4 hours,.;. piss off

  79. 79 jshort said at 6:41 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    keep it coming, how about some Freddie Mitchell stories.

  80. 80 GEAGLE said at 7:05 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    lol Nooooo what a character, that whacko. I gotta board soon, no time for Cancun Nights featuring Fred ex lol. but you have all been useful having to pass this boring time…..
    that idiot could have actually been a decent WR if Andy didnt draft a slow WR in round 1. If we would have gotten that idiot in like the 4th, and if he would have shut up and embrace the slot WR role and just special in going over the middle he could have had a decent Career, he was tough over the middle…… what a whacko

    14 years of andy, think of the evolution of eagle WR. When andy first got here, he was like almost “full retard” at judging WR talent lol. Torrence Smalls, Charles Johnson, then James Trash, then Stinkston, Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown, Stank Basket, Fred then the “genius” Andy Reid got to see TO up close, and it was the moment the light bulb went on and Andy learned what a real WR looked like… The TO ENLIGHTENING, brought us the drafting of Desean and Maclin…

  81. 81 Will said at 6:16 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Ron Parker 2015…

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 6:27 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    if he is any good what makes you think KC wont extend him? they have the same secondary problems as us, if not WORSE. They had a stud safety, feel so bad for Berry, hope for the best… But thats one team, that can not afford to lose DB talent, they already pissed away Flowers……. If we had Ron Parker would the eagles extend him, or let him become a free agent?

  83. 83 oreofestar said at 12:13 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    That’s easy to say but they have no money and will probably have to cut Halo to for in Justin’s inevitable tag let alone get room for Parker

  84. 84 GEAGLE said at 7:16 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    KC cn be in cap hell all theywant but they still have to field a secondary. I cant really imagine being in such cap hell that you cant afford ron friggin parker

  85. 85 Will said at 8:04 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Ron friggin Parker wants 6 million a year and to start he will test the FA market how bad do the Eagles want to stop the X Plays Parker’s worth in the 3-5 million range…KC I think is 8 million over the cap…

  86. 86 GEAGLE said at 11:59 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    thanks for the intel. not a fan…
    what position are you looking at him to fill? i like his versatility, not sure where i would prefer to play him tho

  87. 87 Will said at 8:40 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Searcy is too slooowww….

  88. 88 GEAGLE said at 1:30 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    you are nuts… see my Searcy post at the top of page

  89. 89 GEAGLE said at 6:48 PM on February 14th, 2015:


    ” Steelers GM Kevin Colbert suggested he plans to let free agent OLB Jason Worilds test the open market.
    “Jason had a good year for us,” Colbert said. “I don’t think you’ve seen the best of him, either with the Steelers or as a potential player for someone else’s team. He’s definitely someone we’ll consider keeping. We will see where the market goes.” The Steelers haven’t ruled out using the transition tag on Worilds for the second-consecutive season, but he’s going to be difficult to re-sign. Pittsburgh is currently $1.72 million over the 2015 cap”.-roto
    If this kid hits the market, the media is right, the eagles will be interested.. Just keep in mind that the Titans, are letting Derick Morgan and Kamarian Wimbley walk in free agency and they are going to take that pile of OLB money and throw it at Worlids and his price tag is probably going to be higher than what he negotiated with the Eagles last year, and for his Price id rather have some other options on this market like a BEAST in Pernell McPhee who Ozzie Newsome will allow to leave in free agency,and who is perfect fit for our defense, he can play OLB, he can be a 4-3 DE, and he can even slide in at one of the DT in a 4-3 and pass rush… Think a Bigger, Better, stronger, Brandon Graham…

    at the end of the day I wont complain if we end up with Worilids, I just happen to prefer McPhee, Jerry and Sheard…but Worilds would fit in perfectly fine, i just assume Labeau and wisenhunt are going to put up a fight for his services

  90. 90 wee2424 said at 7:03 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Would the Birds be interested in McPhee seeing that they want mirror OLB? Hence the Smith pick. One of the reasons Graham wasnt on the feild more is because he isnt exactly fluid in space. McPhee isnt either.

  91. 91 GEAGLE said at 7:16 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    if Cole was 4 years younger, I would assume Cole would remain opposite of Barwin the next 4 they friggin adore Trent Cole. Think chip commissioned australian scientist to try and design the fountain of youth specifically to try and salvage their beloved Trent Cole.. they loved Trent Cole so much its going to cost us Brandon Graham, and eventually Vinny Curry too… If they love Cole that much, I have to think acros Barwin, we will prioritize PASS RUSH and SETTING the edge first and foremost, dropping back into coverage probably the icing on the cake…

    truth be told, no matter who we sign we will want Marcus Smith to start filling BGs role of being able to backup Barwin and Cole(McPhee or whoever) combining for about 30-40% of snaps, thats the role we will hope he works to fill these next 2 years… No matter what we do in free agency we need to rotate atleast 3 OLBs in each game.. so even if McPhee is so bad moving backwards that we can never ask him to drop, if he is good enough against the run and moving forward we can still make it work, because say 10-20% of the time Marcus is rotating in for McPhee, we can throw the Mirrored look at teams when Marcus and Barwin are in the game together… and really that mirrored look comes mostly in handy on 3rd down pass rush situation when OL cant know which is rushing, and there will be plenty of chances to rotate marcus in and get that mirrored look I assume,.,

    Worilds, Jerry, BG,, McPhee, Sheard, truth is, none of those guys are Barwin, Marcus or Dion Jordan type ability in coverage.. maybe they can drop when you ask them to every once in a while, but truth is, you pay those dudes to hunt QBs. they cant Hunt QBs if we dropping them in coverage..

    now that we have Marcus and Barwin who can cover on 3rd down, add Kendricks and hopefully draft another ILB who can cover like the other Kendrick brother and thats plenty of capable LB bodies that we can use in coverage to be avble to run whatever subpackages we want.. thats enough coverage ability right there to prioritize pass rush if we are going to pay good money for an OLB

  92. 92 wee2424 said at 11:14 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Maybe Cole is there because Graham is a better pass rusher at this stage but Cole for some reason is better in space. I mean thats pretty much what anyones take would be after reading about it all year long. Therefore the assumption would be that maybe they do favor athletism is space more then just pure pass rushing ability. Thank you i am aware that none of those guys you listed are like Barwin. However some are better in space then others. The mirrored look is effective in all downs besides short yardage situations due to the fact if its 1st and ten, 3rd and long , if you confuse the offense the results may be good. I dont understand the thinking of why it would only be good for 3rd and long. There are some other points i respectively disagree on but its V day and the girl is bitching. Go birds.

  93. 93 GEAGLE said at 11:59 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    who cares about mirrored look when its not a pass rushing situation for tthe OLBs?

  94. 94 wee2424 said at 5:50 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Understood, but the majority of situations in the NFL nowadays are passing situations. You cater to the majority, not the minority, while still devoting some attention to the minority. Bro, i dont like the mirrored concept all that much, im assuming you may not be a big fan either. However whether we like it or not it appears how Davis wants his D. The results show it. Davis flat out saying it, Cole over Graham, the drafting of Smith. Maybe to a lesser degree, and i may be wrong about this, but keeping Curry as DE and not attempting him at OLB.

  95. 95 GermanEagle said at 7:13 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Worilds has EAGLES written all over his head.

  96. 96 GEAGLE said at 7:18 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    unfortunately, Labeau and Wisenhunt might hold him down, cross out the word Eagles and Write TITANS on his forehead

  97. 97 GermanEagle said at 7:25 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I still happen to think the interest is mutual. But don’t get me wrong, I won’t be mad if we signed Hughes instead. Lol.
    Anyone of the following top 4 does it to me though:
    1. Hughes
    2. _Worilds
    3. McPhee
    4. Sheard

  98. 98 anon said at 7:27 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Can McPhee drop? I understand he’s like B. Graham. I’d just pay Tamba Hali once KC drops him.

  99. 99 GermanEagle said at 7:30 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    So many drops, it must be the Jenkins thread. Lol.
    I would love Hali, don’t see it coming though.

  100. 100 GEAGLE said at 7:40 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    big big big Tamba Fan… i doubt we would get him, but maybe chip views him as one of those special high Character older NFL talents that he cant pass on the chance to add to his NFL locker room…i love him no matter what he has left in the tank, sign me up for Tamba all day

  101. 101 anon said at 8:04 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    He’s a little old but i’d let him rotate with Cole (that’d be an expensive tandem).

  102. 102 GEAGLE said at 7:39 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    sign me up for any… add Houston while we are at it lol

  103. 103 GermanEagle said at 7:53 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I left Houston out on purpose, mate. No chance in hell….

  104. 104 GEAGLE said at 11:18 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Ohh I know. Wonder what that contract will end up looking like..

  105. 105 anon said at 7:51 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Orakpo will also hit the market. That would be another Howie special.

  106. 106 GermanEagle said at 7:52 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Not interested. Was two years ago. But he’s just fragile. Shame.

  107. 107 GEAGLE said at 11:17 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Not interested

  108. 108 A_T_G said at 10:10 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    EaglesSPN – the Worilds-wide leader in sports.

  109. 109 GEAGLE said at 1:28 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    on the other hand, the steelers GM is a joke, terrible judge of talent who should be fired any day now… If Colbert is willing to let Worilds get away, then he is probably going to prove to be Reggie White reincarnated on his next team lol

  110. 110 anon said at 7:26 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Low on highlights for a guy that played the most snaps in the league. Good tackler though, which is something we’ve been missing. Some of those dropped picks are ugly though. Maybe maclin can show him how to catch.

  111. 111 GEAGLE said at 7:47 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    heard Rumors of 6’7 Micheal Johnson, one of the more expensive players on last years free agent market might get waived by the Bucs after signing him last year… I really dont care why he isnt working out in Tampa, if he is healthy, thats a good player right there and a crazy athlete for his size and length, if he is back on the market, at a much cheaper price than last year, Id love to snatch him up

    he was a big fish in a small pond in last years market, if he gets cut after a dissapointing year and finds himself in this market with many better options like Houston and Jerry, his price tag could drastically drop and we may be able to get him at good value…. He is elite against the Run which is very important to us.. can drop better than most of these edge rushers..

    im not certain the Bucs waive him, but i have heard it now a couple times and im surprised to even hear this once, i would never guess he would get waived after a year… didnt watch Tampa last year, was he that bad? id take him in a buy low sort of deal

  112. 112 anon said at 7:50 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    That would be a Howie special. Be interesting to see what chip does (and doesn’t do).

  113. 113 anon said at 8:09 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Peyton said he wants to play for DEN but no affirmation of Broncos brass. They gotta figure out how to pay $20m and still field a team. Last year was the big.

  114. 114 Guest said at 8:29 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    They can’t afford to say no to him…

  115. 115 Avery Greene said at 8:51 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I saw Oher was released by the Titans. Could Stoutland make him a good backup/reserve lineman?

  116. 116 Bert's Bells said at 8:52 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Maybe with a Sandra Bullock smoothie.

  117. 117 Mitchell said at 11:17 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    I’ll take one….. *hue hue*

  118. 118 anon said at 11:33 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Maybe a guard instead of a tackle?

  119. 119 Cafone said at 9:41 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Chris Johnson released by Jets. Any interest?

  120. 120 BlindChow said at 10:02 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Doubt it. He has the same problems with “dancing” that Shady does.

  121. 121 Jarock said at 6:39 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Worse. Lacks Shady’s elusiveness, but thinks he has it. He’s scary if he gets a head of steam though.

  122. 122 iceberg584 said at 9:43 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Wondering why that highlight video didn’t include Jenkins’ interception against Indianapolis. That play basically saved the game.

  123. 123 SteveH said at 10:16 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    If Jenkins had held onto that interception against Seattle… we just might have been able to pull off the upset.

    Whole different season then.

    Whoever we get to play opposite Malcom I hope they have good range. You know, to help cover up the inevitable mistakes our corners will make. Whoever they are.

  124. 124 BobSmith77 said at 10:33 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Tommy – With all due respect, don’t you think there were some big differences between Hauck, Moore, Bishop, Lewis. and Mikell? Hauck/Moore were just player holders & Bishop was a washed up hasbin ala Kirkland. Generally seemed to be a festering issue until they drafted Lewis and then he got exposed in the SB letting Branch run all over the field.

    After the failed Considine experiment, they started Mikell who they arguably should have realized they should have started after Lewis & the ’04 SB instead of waiting the PT on Considine (wasn’t as bad as Eagles’ fan made him out to be but he wasn’t an NFL-caliber starter)

    It was one of the few things I felt the Eagles didn’t handle that well defensively during Johnson’s tenure here as the DC.

  125. 125 Mitchell said at 11:33 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Considine went to high school about 20 minutes from mine. He retired after he won a super bowl with the Ravens and now he runs a meat shop.

  126. 126 A_T_G said at 8:13 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    He might have been a Raven, but he never Moore.

  127. 127 Media Mike said at 8:24 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    You should go outside of that shop and protest.

  128. 128 iceberg584 said at 12:02 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Don’t so quickly dismiss Damon Moore. He was a 4th round pick out of Ohio State in 2000, and had an absolutely fantastic season in 2001. It really appeared that he would be a long-term partner with Dawkins at safety. Then, trying to tackle Marshall Faulk in the 2001 NFC Championship Game, he tore up his knee and was never anywhere close to the same.

  129. 129 GEAGLE said at 11:45 PM on February 14th, 2015:

    Affordable/doable secondary for next year:
    Left CB: Nolan Carroll/Quintin Rollins
    Right CB: Davon House/Eric Rowe
    Nickel: Boykin

    Dime: Jaylen Watkin

    Left Safety: Jenkins/Maragos
    Right Safety: Searcy/Wolff/Reynolds
    That’s finally a secondary headed in the right direction, a DB upgrade or two the following year and we are set.
    this 2015 secondary isnt spectacular, but it should be our best in years, and if we can add an ILB like Kendricks and a OLB like McPhee/Sheard/worilds and our defense should vastly improve

  130. 130 anon said at 12:41 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    maragos as the back up? i don’t know. rather have nate allen there. and that secondary could be ok, it could also get beat. none of those cbs has ever started outside before. it’s sad not to have one pro bowl player in the whole position group.

  131. 131 GEAGLE said at 7:09 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    maragos is a safety. i have to list him as a safety on the depth chart, but really he is a ST leader who we have no idea about his safety ability or lack there of. either way, Maragos is a lock to make the roster and he will be listed as a safety so im not exactly sure what your problem is. good chance wolff would be the 1st safety off the bench

  132. 132 anon said at 10:57 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    5th safety on the roster Jenkins, FA, Allen, Wolff, ST stars (proznowski, etc.)

  133. 133 GEAGLE said at 11:55 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    first of all, i doubt you have seen maragos play safety to where you can state that we have better backup safeties then him. you damn sure arent qualified to speak on who is the better safety prosinski or maragos, how could you possibly know? doubt you seen either play more than 5 snaps as a safety…. Allen wont be here….and truth is, you have no clue whatsoever who would ready to be our top backup between wolff, prosinski, or Maragos, so im not interested in hearing you disagree just for the sake of it… oh and btw, I wasnt listing the backups in any particular order…

  134. 134 Dominik said at 1:35 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Maragos looked awful in Preseason. I know, it’s just Preseason, but still.

    I do think he played a few snaps in a game this season, don’t remember what game it was, and he looked bad, too.

    Don’t think he’s more than Colt, of course I’d like to be wrong. He was (officially) the back-up for Earl Thomas, but since he was never injured, we don’t know if he would have played in case of an injury or if they have a third Safety (who’s officially Chancellors back-up) who would have stepped in.
    If Carroll would have been ok with Maragos on Defense, maybe he can play D after all.

  135. 135 GEAGLE said at 2:36 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    i have no way of knowing what he brings defensively, preseason does more harm than good when trying to form your opinion off of PS play… so i really have no idea what to expect, Maragos was signed to lead our ST and he did that leading our team in ST tackles, while other ST players credited him for bringing the fun and pride in playing on our ST unit…. whether he is the first safety off our bench of the 3rd, i really have no idea.. I cant say Prosinksi or Wolff are ready to be a better backup than Maragos, i really have no idea what he brings to the Defense…. I know the Earl Thomas supposedly thinks the world of Maragos, but that could be on more of a friend level than in terms of playing ability so who knows…. after the seahawks beat us, Earl took Maragos Eagles jersey and put it on, im sure thats more of a friendship respoect thing, but it was the closest thing to Earl Thomas in an eagles jersey that I could get lol

  136. 136 MagatBrackendale said at 2:38 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    For all those hotly debating which Corner or Safety the Eagles should just whip over to the convenience store and pick up.

    Btw, Gil Brandt is the guy who basically invented computerizing scouting and “measurables” before drafting, in the 70’s. He’s not some fly-by-night writing a blog on SBN.

  137. 137 Avery Greene said at 3:23 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Is it really possible to just go to the convenience store? I like these article btw.

    On the other hand, why does your name keep changing?

  138. 138 MagatBrackendale said at 1:38 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    I often check out 24/7. those folks change their screen names as often as their underwear! ;~). Sometimes you just want to fit in, you know?

  139. 139 ICDogg said at 3:53 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    I met him, sort of, once around 1990. I forget what he was promoting, but it was some kind of promotional thing, but there weren’t many people there, and he was telling some stories about various football and media people, including Dick Vermeil.

  140. 140 ICDogg said at 3:59 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    My favorite image search result for safety

  141. 141 GEAGLE said at 7:11 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Eagles fans better get used to the House/Nolan Carroll starting tandem for september 2015:

    …(Free agent CB Davon House said finding a starting job is his top priority.
    House has been limited to sub-packages the last four seasons, starting just 14 games. At 6’0/200, he should draw interest from teams as an outside corner. House could be re-signed by the Packers as a replacement for Tramon Williams. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel expects House to command in excess of $5 million annually).-roto

  142. 142 Media Mike said at 7:27 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Whose House??????????

  143. 143 GEAGLE said at 8:56 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    well played sir… well played

  144. 144 Javi Echie said at 10:04 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t be too upset at gnat tandem, as long as we draft a CB in the 1st two rounds to groom for future.

  145. 145 Media Mike said at 10:30 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    LOL @ “gnat” tandem. Billy Davis and Chip don’t want any small CBs, remember?

  146. 146 Javi Echie said at 10:39 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Stupid spell check lol. Well house is 6’0 so isn’t that like the minimum requirement for a Chip CB?

  147. 147 GEAGLE said at 11:50 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    no young outside corners on our roster. we def have to draft a CB early

  148. 148 Greg Richards said at 11:27 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    I think you mean get used to House and Carroll competing for the spot opposite Byron Maxwell/Kareem Jackson.

  149. 149 GEAGLE said at 11:49 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    i wish

  150. 150 GEAGLE said at 7:24 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    NFL pretending its not a joke smh:


    “The NFL has filed a petition to have the protective order lifted off free agent DE Greg Hardy’s domestic violence trial.

    The case against Hardy was dismissed on appeal, but the league is interested in seeing the evidence that led to his conviction on two counts of domestic violence last July. Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reported it is “extremely unlikely” Hardy faces any further punishment, but this action by the league suggests they are at least looking into it. Hardy is still on the commissioner’s exempt list.” roto via usa today

  151. 151 RobNE said at 9:42 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    the NFL is in a tough spot. They make billions and do everything to protect their assets (the players) and have it so every first call from the police is to the team. But they need to pretend that they are on some kind of moral high ground. It’s no surprise they seem to swing way back and forth on the pendulum with apparently no logic. They should move the disciplinary stuff to a third party committee that sets up some kind of objective criteria (as best they can), and Roger should have nothing to do with it and no appeal authority etc. Until and unless they do that, it will continue to be a joke.

    Even the commissioner’s list is a joke. Where is the due process?

    It’s a total insider’s game. As long as helping the player is in the best interests of the team that will happen. The moment the PR is too bad, then the team and league will suddenly act to take down the player.

  152. 152 GEAGLE said at 1:24 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    so true

  153. 153 Media Mike said at 8:08 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    “Fun” simulated draft of the morning courtesy of trades downs with Cincy and Detroit.

    Round 1 Pick 20: Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma (B)
    Round 2 Pick 21 (CINN): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (A)
    Round 3 Pick 21 (CINN): Steven Nelson, CB, Oregon State (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 24 (DET): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 23 (DET): Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Robert Myers, OG/OT, Tennessee State (C+)
    Round 6 Pick 20: JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Josh Robinson, RB, Mississippi St. (B+)

  154. 154 Media Mike said at 8:53 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    Just for fun, I accepted every single trade down offer when offered.

    Round 2 Pick 29 (IND): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): Hauoli Kikaha, OLB/DE, Washington (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 17 (BUF): Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (B)
    Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 24 (DET): T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 32 (N.E.): Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 5 (NYJ): Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 7 (CHI): Nick O’Leary, TE, Florida State (B)
    Round 4 Pick 11 (MINN): Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15 (MIA): Joey Mbu, DT, Houston (A)
    Round 4 Pick 17 (HOU): Jordan Richards, SS, Stanford (C-)
    Round 4 Pick 19 (K.C.): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 22 (PITT): Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 24 (ARI): Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 29 (IND): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B)
    Round 4 Pick 31 (SEA): Jamil Douglas, OG, Arizona State (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 1 (BUF): B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (B)
    Round 5 Pick 2 (TENN): Doran Grant, CB, Ohio State (B)
    Round 5 Pick 3 (JAX): Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (C)
    Round 5 Pick 4 (OAK): Cedric Reed, DE/OLB, Texas (B)
    Round 5 Pick 5 (WASH): Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 6 (NYJ): Zach Hodges, OLB, Harvard (C)
    Round 5 Pick 7 (DEN): Christian Covington, DT, Rice (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 8 (NYG): Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (B)
    Round 5 Pick 9 (STL): Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina (D)
    Round 5 Pick 10 (ATL): Austin Shepherd, OT, Alabama (D)
    Round 5 Pick 11 (CLE): Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (D+)
    Round 5 Pick 12 (N.O.): Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (D+)
    Round 5 Pick 13 (MINN): Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 14 (MIA): Robert Myers, OG/OT, Tennessee State (D)
    Round 5 Pick 15 (S.F.): Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 16 (HOU): Ben Heeney, ILB, Kansas (D)
    Round 5 Pick 18 (K.C.): Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (F)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Taiwan Jones, ILB, Michigan State (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 22 (DET): Mike Hull, ILB, Penn State (F)
    Round 5 Pick 23 (ARI): Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 24 (PITT): Miles Dieffenbach, OG, Penn State (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 25 (CAR): Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 26 (T.B.): Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 27 (DAL): Vince Mayle, WR, Washington State (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 28 (DEN): Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane (B)
    Round 5 Pick 29 (IND): Corey Crawford, DE, Clemson (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 30 (G.B.): Leterrius Walton, DT, Central Michigan (D)
    Round 5 Pick 31 (SEA): Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (D)
    Round 5 Pick 32 (N.E.): Deion Barnes, DE, Penn State (D+)
    Round 6 Pick 1 (TENN): Kaleb Eulls, DT, Mississippi State (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 3 (OAK): Terrance Magee, RB, LSU (B)
    Round 6 Pick 4 (JAX): Jeff Heuerman, TE, Ohio State (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 5 (SEA): Shaquille Mason, OG/C, Georgia Tech (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 6 (WASH): Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 7 (CHI): JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 9 (ATL): Martrell Spaight, OLB, Arkansas (C)
    Round 6 Pick 10 (NYG): Deshazor Everett, CB, Texas A&M (D)
    Round 6 Pick 11 (N.O.): Tony Washington, OLB, Oregon (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 12 (MINN): Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 13 (CLE): Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland (C)
    Round 6 Pick 14 (S.F.): Anthony Jefferson, SS, UCLA (D+)
    Round 6 Pick 15 (MIA): Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (D+)
    Round 6 Pick 16 (S.D.): Max Valles, OLB, Virginia (D)
    Round 6 Pick 17 (K.C.): James Sample, SS, Louisville (E)
    Round 6 Pick 18 (BUF): MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (C)
    Round 6 Pick 19 (HOU): Craig Mager, CB, Texas State (D+)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Matt Jones, RB, Florida (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 22 (ARI): Kyle Brindza, K, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 23 (PITT): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (C)
    Round 6 Pick 24 (DET): Tayo Fabuluje, OT, TCU (D+)
    Round 6 Pick 25 (CAR): Martin Ifedi, DE/OLB, Memphis (D)
    Round 6 Pick 26 (CLE): Deontay Greenberry, WR, Houston (B)
    Round 6 Pick 27 (DEN): Damarious Randall, FS, Arizona State (D)
    Round 6 Pick 28 (BALT): Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 29 (IND): Tyeler Davison, DT, Fresno State (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 30 (G.B.): Hayes Pullard, ILB, Southern California (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 31 (IND): Dezmin Lewis, WR, Central Arkansas (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 1 (T.B.): Xavier Williams, DT, Northern Iowa (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 3 (JAX): Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 4 (OAK): Ben Beckwith, OG, Mississippi State (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 6 (NYJ): Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (B)
    Round 7 Pick 8 (ATL): Tevin McDonald, FS/SS, Eastern Washington (E)
    Round 7 Pick 9 (NYG): Austin Hill, WR, Arizona (A)
    Round 7 Pick 10 (STL): E.J. Bibbs, TE, Iowa State (D+)
    Round 7 Pick 12 (CLE): Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 13 (N.O.): Max Garcia, C, Florida (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 14 (BALT): Dominique Brown, RB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 15 (MIA): Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (D+)
    Round 7 Pick 17 (BUF): Shaquille Riddick, DE/OLB, West Virginia (E)
    Round 7 Pick 19 (DAL): Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma (C)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Blake Sims, QB, Alabama (C-)
    Round 7 Pick 21 (CINN): Josh Robinson, RB, Mississippi St. (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 23 (DET): Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (F)
    Round 7 Pick 24 (ARI): Titus Davis, WR, Central Michigan (D+)
    Round 7 Pick 27 (NYG): Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky (D)
    Round 7 Pick 29 (S.F.): Imoan Claiborne, CB, Northwestern State (C)

  155. 155 Javi Echie said at 10:02 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    If we can make 60+ picks in one draft, that’s a guess of a number I stopped counting midway thru lol, I’d say we would have to hit on about 15-20 of them which would be nice

  156. 156 Media Mike said at 10:29 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    If one looks at the 2012 draft and every player taken in rounds 4 through 7 that you’d want; still slim pickings.

    So it was fun to draft that many guys, but funny how thin the talent gets once you’re down a few rounds.

  157. 157 anon said at 10:54 AM on February 15th, 2015:

    If pierre garcon gets dropped i’d be all over that. garcon, maclin — both guys that can catch balls and get rac.

  158. 158 GermanEagle said at 12:27 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    This thread has really become a dropping story.

  159. 159 eagleyankfan said at 1:46 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    because Mathews can’t?

  160. 160 GEAGLE said at 12:45 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Da’Norris Searcy:
    …has played both free and strong safety so he is a good candidate to be a left/right safety in our scheme

    In 2014 he had 65 tackles, 3 INT, a forced fumble and half a sack.
    PFF rated him 4th in the NFL among safeties in coverage, allowing only 1 reception for every 42 snaps. overall PFF grades +8 in coverage, and +5.6 in run support, where as free agent targets like Ron Parker are graded in negative numbers…..for being so solid in coverage dude can hit, he is like 5’11 running around hitting HARD but also being a very sure tackler..He started off as a Hybrid Safety LB, but has improved drastically in coverage over the years. Kid came in as a strong safety and a hitter but has grown into a well rounded safety over the years to the point where DC’s now comfortably have him on a TE in man coverage… Really sound in his assignments and he would have cut down on half the X plays Nate gave up back there… My favorite part of his game is he is really stingy in centerfield and when a CB is counting on him for over the top help, he wont let them down, which has been a major problem with our safeties. Malcolm Jenkins is one of the better blitzing safeties, thats also something Searcy is good at.. interesting to have two capable blitzing safeties.. seemed Billy tried to blitz Nate at times assuming defenses didnt expect him, but Searcy should provide upgrade inNates blitzing as well

    Before he became a full time safety mid 2013, he was used as a subpackage player as a Nickel and Dime LB so he gives us some subpackage options..

  161. 161 Mitchell said at 12:53 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    I looked at his combine numbers for S’s&G’s. Back then he weighed 223 lbs and did 27 reps in the bench….. huge. He also has 33.5inch arms and 9.5 inch hands. He’s pretty big. It says a big knock on him was he shyness to contact but it sounds like he cleared that up.

  162. 162 GEAGLE said at 1:01 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Oh I promise you he fixred that! lol kid hits, hard, and has grown into a sure Tackler. He is Quick, has GREAT football insticts that are said to have continued to improve over the years…


    He was part of the Bills defense that was 3rd in passing and gave up the least amount of passing TDs in the NFL 16, beating out the Legion of Boom…..

    My favorite part:

    “Hard working, and Disciplined on the field as he went for zero penalies on the season after being a part of numerous passing plays”…. his discipline in center field would be a HUGE upgrade for a defense that got killed giving up X plays… we killed our corners for years but often Nate was falling to provide the support they were counting on. When Searcy has over the top help, you better not throw his way, because he is sound, he will be where he needs to be to help the corner, he wont let you behind him, and odds are it will be an incompletion without seeing a yellow flag… Kid would be really solid addittion for cutting down our X play problems and yellow flags in the secondary problems… that destroyed our season

    hard working, High Character Physical football player you can depend on!!!

  163. 163 Mitchell said at 1:03 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Maybe dropping some weight helped his speed and coverage.

  164. 164 GEAGLE said at 1:22 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Steelers and Giant fans all seem to be drooling over him too.
    Steelers fans have been ripping their GM all year for giving 25mil to that garbage 1 hit wonder Mike Mitchell who steelers fans want to get waived a year later… Their GM gave a bum safety 25mil, then he gave Cortez Allen, their corner a Big extension, AND since signing that extension you cant imagine how bad Cortez has been sucking..
    Steelers fans watched chip pluck a Gem like Jenkins, while they paid more money for a safety they want to cut a year later. Their other safety is 47years old and all that hair of his will be a grey by next year lol… Their Corners, Iike Taylor needs to be in a retirment homne and Cortez allen embezzled them by fooling the, he was worth a damn… I cant believe how horrible the steelers secondary situation is. They have to draft Wayans or Landon Collins in round 1, they dont even have a choice lol

  165. 165 Greg Richards said at 1:53 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Mike Mitchell’s contract sounds way overpriced but it didn’t come with a lot of guaranteed money. His deal was 5 years, $25M with $5.25M guaranteed($4.75M signing bonus and $500K roster bonus last year). He also has a $2M roster bonus this year with a $2M salary. I don’t think they’re likely to release him as they’d still have $3.8M of dead money left on their cap but they could still realize net cap savings by cutting him so it wouldn’t shock me. Compare Mitchell’s contract to Malcolm Jenkins. Jenkins is better, obviously, but his contract is structured much more favorably than Mitchell’s from the player’s perspective. Jenkins’ deal was for 3 years, $15.5M which is roughly the same salary average. However, Jenkins received more guaranteed money in his 3-year deal($5M signing bonus and $1M of guaranteed 2014 salary) than Mitchell did in his 5-year deal. In addition, $2.5M of Jenkins’ scheduled 2015 base salary of $4M became guaranteed if he was on the roster 5 days after the 2014 Super Bowl(which has already happened).

  166. 166 GEAGLE said at 2:30 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    in fairness, Jenkins clearly deserves a more favorable deal than Micthell… atleast Jenkins solved one of our safety problems for the next few years… Steelers secondary makes the jets ;look like the Legion of BOOM

  167. 167 GEAGLE said at 1:14 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Is there any chance the Eagles would let Ced get away if there was a DE upgrade available? Or is Ced so good for his age that we prefer the continuity, especially at his price Tag?
    I ask because the Dolphins are going to let one of the better 3-4DE reach the Free agent Market.. Roto:

    Jared Odrick – DL – Dolphins

    Free agent DT Jared Odrick has yet to hear from the Dolphins.
    “Odrick, 27, started 15-of-16 games this past season, grading out as a top-19 defensive tackle at Pro Football Focus. He received especially strong marks as a pass rusher, although he recorded just one sack. Odrick has 16.5 career sacks and has experience playing 4-3 defensive tackle and 3-4 end.”
    of course I have the thought of Ngata getting cut in the back of my mind 🙂
    Ced is a great young 3-4 two gapper, but brings nothing in pass rush. Heck we prefer our NT Logan in pass rushing situations over Ced. Lack of Ced pass rush becomes a problem when we lose Curry after next season..and Cox and possibly Hart are the only DT’s we have as interior pass rushers

  168. 168 Greg Richards said at 1:45 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    I don’t foresee the Eagles extending Thornton long-term, but I don’t see his replacement coming through FA. I think ideally the Eagles would improve the secondary through FA and leave the draft for long-term building blocks on both offensive and defensive line. Would anyone be surprised if Kelly took Arik Armstead at #20 overall. There’re also good NT options if they wanted to move Logan to Thornton’s spot.

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 2:27 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    if armstead falls to 20, he will be an eagle. simple as that.. lol
    so I assume you expect us to extend Ced for a year or two? Makes sense to not pay for an free agent DL, since we have done so well with young DL we draft… Of course we can lose Ced and Curry over the next few seasons so our DL may not be as set as we would like to think….

    I would be ok with paying for a special monster like Ngata, but it would have to be a special veteran that could take us to the next level as a unit
    i dont feel comfprtable losing Ced Now, i want him back for next year, but i agree that we shouldnt commit longterm

  170. 170 Matt Hoover said at 2:38 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Why create a problem when its already solved. Ced is our guy and I see us keeping him.

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 2:43 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    ok… and then by the end of next season we will have to count on Cox, Taylor hart and our NTs for our interior pass rush? Right NOW, Ced works because we enjoy his beastly two gapping against the run at a cheap price, and when we need a passrush we bring the cheap services of Curry to replace him… after this year Curry will go bye bye, then we are left with Cox, Hart,Ced, the two NT’s… wheres the interior pass rush coming for?

    and can we negotiate a fair price that keeps ced here two gapping, but also reflects that he brings nothing to our pass rush?

  172. 172 Anders said at 3:03 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Cox, Allen, Hart and Logan should be more than enough interior pass rush.

    I also think Curry might take a Michael Bennett type deal to be a high paid role player

  173. 173 anon said at 11:09 PM on February 17th, 2015:

    Maybe if go deep in playoffs but he could dominate in a 43.

  174. 174 Greg Richards said at 4:12 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Cedric will be a RFA. I expect them to give him the 2nd round tender. They could potentially give him the lower right-of-first-refusal tender but if they did so they wouldn’t receive any competition if another team signed him to an offer sheet. If it was me, I’d give him the lower tender and hope another team basically does your negotaiating for you and signs him to a reasonable offer sheet that you match. That’d be playing with fire though if another team signed him for more money than you’d like. Long-term, I expect them to have to choose between Curry and Thornton and I always go with the pass-rusher over the run-stuffer.

  175. 175 Anders said at 2:25 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    I do not see any reason not to keep Ced even if only as a 2 down player.

    In general it seems we prefer to go with a 3-3-5 (or 4-2-5) nickle where the 3rd down lineman was often Cole or Graham.

    In that situation 1 of the DLs is getting off the field, so its not really any problem if its the DE instead of the NT.

  176. 176 GEAGLE said at 2:47 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    we will see how contract negotiations go. I want Ced to be here Next year, Im just not sure if I want to commit to a 4-5 year deal with him just yet… lets see if he will be willing to watch Cox get superpaid and sign a much cheaper deal than Cox reflecting that he is only a 2 down player who brings NOTHING to our pass rush…. as Long as we have Vinny Currys pass rush behind Ced, Ced is awesome for us…. but i wonder how the DL will be reconfigured when we lose Vinny. Right now Vinny is very very important to our 3rd down defense. He fills in where Ced is weak…they form like Voltron into an awesome 3down DE…

  177. 177 Anders said at 3:01 PM on February 15th, 2015:

    Look at the Seahawks in 2013, they lived on having a their version of Ced in Red Bryant and then just had Cliff Avril or Bennett come in on passing downs. We do the same.

  178. 178 anon said at 11:07 PM on February 17th, 2015:

    Ced can get paid like a backup and he can do that. Would have no problem taking a de cap casualty. Happy to take a stud nt and move Logan to de. Just run stunts and have teams needing 6 guys to block 3.
    Put orakpo outside for $5m let them eat.