PHI 27, NYG 7

Posted: October 20th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 216 Comments »

It wasn’t pretty.

Boy, it wasn’t pretty. But it was a big win. The Eagles get back to .500 and now sit atop the NFC East. This isn’t the time to pat the guys on the back and relax, but getting back to .500 is a big step in the climb out of this season’s 0-2 start.

It would be easy to obsess on Sam Bradford’s sloppy play, but I think the first thing you have to do is praise the defense. The Giants came in red hot on offense. They started the game by marching right down the field for an easy TD, but things changed after that.

The Giants didn’t score the rest of the game. They only gained 172 yards the rest of the game.

You can’t single out one player. You have to give credit to the whole defense. The guys up front really started to dominate the line of scrimmage. The back seven covered well. This was as good as Bill Davis’ defense has looked in Philly. Really terrific showing.

  • Nolan Carroll’s pick-six was a game-changer.
  • Brandon Graham had half a sack and came up with a big 4th down stop.
  • Vinny Curry had 1.5 sacks.
  • Connor Barwin abused the RT by driving him back to Eli over and over.
  • Fletcher Cox had a sack and FF.
  • Jordan Hicks led the team with 10 tackles.
  • DeMeco Ryans played his best game of the year. He had a key PD, INT and FR.
  • Malcolm Jenkins had a FF.

The other group that needs to get a lot of credit is the O-line. They gave up one sack, but generally gave Bradford a ton of time to throw. They took control of the LOS in the 2nd half and helped the Eagles to run for 155 yards against the NFL’s #2 run defense. The line really took that game over in the 2nd half. It was beautiful.

DeMarco Murray ran for 109 yards and scored a TD. He played his best game of the year and looks to be getting more comfortable in this offense. That’s a great sign moving forward.

Chip Kelly has tons of mistakes to fix. This was one ugly game. But the Eagles found a way to win, in convincing fashion no less. They can build off this win.

3-3 feels mighty good, but I’m greedy. Let’s go win next week and keep this thing going.


216 Comments on “PHI 27, NYG 7”

  1. 1 Joe Minx said at 12:44 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Football isn’t supposed to be this hard, right?

  2. 2 John Galt said at 12:49 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Tommy, now can we keep Nolan Carroll next year or so we still need to upgrade him?

    Thought he played very well tonight, and not just the pick which really was on Eli. Anxious to hear what you think when you watch the tape.

  3. 3 BlindChow said at 1:12 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    No. “Carroll could be an outstanding role player, but he doesn’t look like a high quality starter.”

  4. 4 NinjaP said at 1:58 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    He’s so much better than fletcher and cary so my expectations of a starting corner might be low

  5. 5 JB said at 12:49 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    At what point does Chip have to consider getting Sanchez out there?

  6. 6 Mr. Magee said at 1:08 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Great question

  7. 7 anon said at 1:08 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Weeks ago .

  8. 8 stephenstempo said at 2:01 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    And. The difference would be ?

  9. 9 Media Mike said at 4:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    None. Sanchez is a .500 level starter. We saw that last year.

  10. 10 SDbirdgang said at 11:40 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I’d argue that the defense is much improved over last years. IMO it doesn’t matter which QB plays between the two of them.

  11. 11 SteveH said at 12:50 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I thought it was a pretty crappy game really. Lots of ugly mistakes. Seemed like neither team wanted to win. Giants gifted us a few scores, we were fortunate our mistakes didn’t gift them scores right back.

    Huge props to the D, they played really well tonight, though that is without ODB or Randle really being able to go full for the whole game. Giants looked a lot better when ODB was running in the 1st half.

    Happy we won, but with how sloppy we played it’s hard to feel comfortable despite being 1st in the division right now.

    I think Carolina will be a huge test for us. First legitimately tough opponent since the Falcons in week 1.

  12. 12 ICDogg said at 12:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Carolina had a big emotional win vs Seattle and may be ripe to upset

  13. 13 xeynon said at 1:13 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Seth Joyner said precisely this on the Eagles postgame show. I think he’s right. Carolina is not good enough to be the last undefeated team standing. In the spirit of the “Star Wars” trailer they showed at halftime, let’s go to Admiral Ackbar for this one:

  14. 14 JoeBlow said at 1:16 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    i already checked the spread to get a read on the game lol, hasn’t been listed yet i dont think

  15. 15 D3FB said at 1:23 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Think we match up well. Outside of Olsen they have no passing threats. We should be able to bottle up their run game. Biggest question is who spies Cam with Kendricks out. Likely Hicks but that’s going to be a test for the rook.

    Their DL is stout but lacks a dominant rusher. They have a great LB corp, but Shaq Thompson is probably going to be out, AJ Klein is a good backup but not nearly the athlete. Josh Norman is a very good corner. Peanut Tillman is still trucking but I’m interested in seeing if we can test him vertically since their Safeties are Kurt Coleman and Roman Harper.

    Bottle up Cam and be efficient on offense. Very winnable game

  16. 16 ICDogg said at 1:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Maybe Kendricks will be available

  17. 17 D3FB said at 1:25 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I hope not. I’d rather give him until after the bye to make sure the hammy is completely solid.

  18. 18 NinjaP said at 1:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Didn’t connor do it last year and do it well?

  19. 19 D3FB said at 3:00 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Barwin had like 62 sacks that game so I’m not sure he was spying.

    Could be a nice way to get MSII more reps next week. Has the size and athleticism to do it.

  20. 20 Media Mike said at 4:57 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  21. 21 Iskar36 said at 7:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    It’s the efficient in offense part that I have a hard time seeing.

  22. 22 Media Mike said at 4:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Plus teams have a history of being so beat up from a Carolina game that they take a dip the next week.

  23. 23 DJH said at 12:51 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Exited about the defense for sure. Especially getting 3rd down stops. Awesome. LBs shut down Vereen too.

    Ray Didinger said it well re Bradford: This was a perfect setup game for him to take a huge step forward. And he played very poorly.

    How far can D and mediocre run game take us?

  24. 24 SteveH said at 12:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The interceptions are starting to get brutal. I think the Bradford we’re seeing might just be the Bradford that exists.

  25. 25 anon said at 12:59 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Seattle win a sb with it.

  26. 26 Mr. Magee said at 1:09 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Not that far

  27. 27 xeynon said at 12:53 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yes, we’re in first place. Yes, our defense is very solid, and vastly improved from last year. But it’s hard for me to get too excited, because our quarterback isn’t good. And it’s extremely difficult to win anything of consequence if your quarterback isn’t good. Look at this team, then look at other first place teams like the Patriots or Packers. The gap is just as wide as it’s ever been.

  28. 28 eagleyankfan said at 8:39 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    At the beginning of the year. I said to give Bradford time. He’s in a whole new city, whole new offense AND coming off a serious injury. You have to give him time I said. 6 games is enough time to see how bad he is. He’s brutal. This is the worst fear happening. Not having a future Q and we won’t be in any position to draft one. Maybe CK will trade some more draft picks to another team for their QB?

  29. 29 SDbirdgang said at 1:04 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    My prediction of 13-3 is still alive.

  30. 30 Media Mike said at 5:06 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    So is my 11-5.

    Acceptable losses include New England and Detroit by my original breakdowns.

    We are 100% out of games vs. the NFC South, NFC East, Detroit, and Arizona that I’d tolerate losing. I would also not be ok with losing to Buffalo.

    So I will permit a loss vs. Miami for our 11-5 finish.

  31. 31 SDbirdgang said at 11:37 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The TEAM is starting to gel….don’t believe me? Usually team that commit 4 turnovers lose not win by 20 pts. Bradfords got to clean it up but the Eagles going to be an easy out for any team left on the schedule.

  32. 32 JoeBlow said at 1:06 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I for one would like to see Bradford under center more, especialy early in the game. Might get the run game going a bit faster and and you can get Sam in some play-action passes which might give him easier throws in first halves.

    I wasn’t exactly “happy” about the trade for Sam, but i understood it. My biggest concern for him was the knee, but now i’m just concerned about him reading defenses making the right decisions. This should have been a cupcake of a game for him, but he just never threw the ball with any confidence the entire game

    He’s going to be playing a much better defense and a few guys who really ballhawk and he has to play the position with confidence or it’s Sanchize time

    Stat of night- Eagles O turned it over 4 times which turned into 0 points for the G-Men

  33. 33 Media Mike said at 5:06 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    That should also tell you something about the Giants!

  34. 34 CrackSammich said at 9:15 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    He seems to generally be making decisions just fine, but consistently under throws the ball. Except when he wayyyy overthrew Ertz.

  35. 35 Eagles_Fan_in_San_Fran said at 1:15 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yes, we won convincingly over the G-men, and we should be the favorite now to win the division, but does anyone really think this team is ever going to go anywhere with Bradford? I sure as hell don’t.

  36. 36 dillinja said at 1:25 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    No, don’t think so. Eagles haven’t really had a legit QB since McNabb. So damn hard to find a high quality NFL QB.

    People can talk about Foles vs Bradford vs Sanchez, but its basically a debate about three essentially similar QBs. None are or were the answer.

  37. 37 anon said at 1:41 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Can’t believe we’ve been in the QB shitter for so long.

  38. 38 NinjaP said at 1:55 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Thats the problem with being mediocre in the NFL. QBs get drafted by bad teams.

  39. 39 bdbd20 said at 8:16 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yup. Here lies the real issue. How do you find a franchise QB? Is it worth the risk of tanking a season? We just have to see how this plays out with Bradford. Despite the mistakes, he did make some nice throws.

  40. 40 Anders said at 8:21 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Problem is that tanking might not even be worth it. Remember 2013 with zero good QBs?

  41. 41 bdbd20 said at 8:26 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yup. We had the #4 pick in 2013. Best available QB’s were EJ Manuel, Geno Smith and Mike Glennon.

    Obviously everyone remembers 2012 with Luck. Would we be happy with RG3 or Tannehill?

  42. 42 Anders said at 8:27 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Would love both with Kelly

  43. 43 bdbd20 said at 8:38 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I’m not a fan of either. They both seem to have issues reading defenses and making good decisions. Not sure we have anything better in Sam, but I don’t think anything better was available at the time.

    I’m not sure the 2015 draft will bring any better options either. Goff and Cook look good right now, but the bad NFL teams are pretty crappy now. It might take a 2-14 record to get one of those guys.

  44. 44 ChoTime said at 10:00 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I would have liked to see RG3 here. Heck I would be down with CK giving him a look-see anyway. SB was also a reclamation project.

  45. 45 mksp said at 8:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:


    Not enough people talk about the fact that Nick Foles has effectively screwed us over at the QB position for a decade.

    If he hadn’t made a deal with the devil for one season, we could be set with one of the really good young QBs that just so happens to be perfect for this system.

  46. 46 bdbd20 said at 9:10 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Ha. I remember that draft and thinking that it would be interesting if Chip drafted Teddy.

    Obviously, it would be crazy to replace a guy that went 27-2 and left the playoff game with the lead.

  47. 47 Anders said at 9:16 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I think Bridgewater might have been a tad overrated coming into this season.

  48. 48 Flyineagle45 said at 7:26 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Shouldn’t have won one iota for Mariota

  49. 49 ChoTime said at 9:58 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    It’s funny, I was watching Sam miss receivers by 3-8 yards on pass after pass, and it occurred to me: For all the flack McNabb got for his accuracy, at least when he missed it just went into to ground harmlessly. It was frustrating, but at least it didn’t lose us possessions.

  50. 50 Nelson ALGore said at 3:49 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I never thought the 9-7 Gmen would go anywhere in ’07 let alone topple the undefeated cheatriots… Never say never lets steam roll this crap division and then worry about the supposed pecking order

  51. 51 Anders said at 3:51 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    With our defense and if the offense gets into a roll, we can be scary.

  52. 52 Always Hopeful said at 6:59 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Improbable, but I like the way you think! We just need the offense to be competent…JUST COMPETENT and we can make a run. Let’s see how it unfolds. Last night was slightly torturous until I expected nothing from Sam and expected the defense to carry us.

    Chip Kelley = Brian Billick????

  53. 53 Nelson ALGore said at 5:57 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    Chip Billick! lol

  54. 54 D3FB said at 1:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Media Mike, just giving you a heads up buddy I’m going to be minimizing your comments before reading this week.

  55. 55 Jarock said at 1:25 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  56. 56 Joe Minx said at 1:27 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I feel bad for him. First Newton yesterday, now Billy D tonight.

  57. 57 D3FB said at 1:36 AM on October 20th, 2015:




  58. 58 Nelson ALGore said at 3:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    he called a really good game tonight. probably his best ever. where was the the prevent or 3 line

    that said the defense and Billy D were near perfect tonight!!!

  59. 59 Media Mike said at 5:11 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I can’t flame Davis tonight. The endless stream of opposing WR1 players getting big games was slowed and the 3rd down D was really good.

  60. 60 Bert's Bells said at 3:35 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Don’t forget Landon Collins playing very well for the NY Football Giants

  61. 61 Anders said at 3:36 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Collins was/is a good prospect, he just a bad fit for what the Eagles want out of a safety.

  62. 62 Bert's Bells said at 4:04 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I agree. The commenter in question will tell you otherwise. In colorful terms .

  63. 63 Media Mike said at 5:31 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    There were a lot of guys open on Collins last night.

  64. 64 The original AG said at 1:46 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    If I can come around he will too.

  65. 65 D3FB said at 2:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    This is mainly in regards to his love affair with calling Cam Newton impossibly nasty things.

  66. 66 Media Mike said at 5:08 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yeah, I really can’t flame Davis this week…….but I’ll be in the weeds.

    But the Newton hate will be maxed out.

  67. 67 The original AG said at 6:02 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I thought he was just talking about Billy D. I’ve been one of his harshest critics in the past.

  68. 68 sonofdman said at 3:21 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  69. 69 Media Mike said at 5:07 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Before or I after I bust your chops for Tobin whiffing on blocking a fullback on a pass rush?

  70. 70 D3FB said at 2:43 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    You mean Nikita Whitlock who was all ACC DL?

  71. 71 Media Mike said at 3:54 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    He’s 5’10 / 250. That might tell us something about the ACC.

    In either case he’s rostered as a fullback with the Giants and that free shot he took on Bradford wasn’t ideal.

    All in all Tobin blocked well however.

  72. 72 JoeBlow said at 1:29 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Panthers will open as 3 point favorites for sunday night game against Eagles

  73. 73 ICDogg said at 1:31 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  74. 74 JoeBlow said at 1:33 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    5-0 team at home against a 3-3 team who has looked like balls through 6 weeks??? and no im not trying to convince myself this is an eagles line haha

  75. 75 ICDogg said at 1:36 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    If this is really the spread Carolina is getting no respect

  76. 76 JoeBlow said at 1:40 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    i’ll check during the week and see if the line moves, but i expected it to be around 4.5-5.5 point spread.

  77. 77 ICDogg said at 1:46 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Where did you see this line?

  78. 78 JoeBlow said at 1:49 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    a website called and then

  79. 79 ICDogg said at 1:58 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yep, me too

  80. 80 Sean Stott said at 2:27 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Why? CAR has had a cupcake schedule compared to Eagles, and all the games have been close lol.

  81. 81 NinjaP said at 1:53 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    At what point do we pull the plug on the Sam experiment?

  82. 82 stephenstempo said at 2:04 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    When we have a backup not named mark Sanchez.

  83. 83 anon said at 2:06 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    would have loved to see marky mark in the 4th quarter

  84. 84 Ark87 said at 9:37 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I don’t know if that’s fair. He’s a very good back up, he’s just not a guy with hidden potential we can Jones for when the starter struggles. Most back-ups are hot garbage. Hell a ton of starting QB’s are hot garbage. He’s just a limited but known quantity, and people are starting to look for a wild card.

  85. 85 FairOaks said at 3:05 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    When we lose several games. Might be different if we had a QB of the future knocking on the door. Only thing we can hope for is Bradford gets better. But we’ve won 3 out of 4. It’s just that we feel we should have scored 50 each of the last two games but didn’t. Offense is still all over the place, but it’s better than vs Dallas.

  86. 86 Nelson ALGore said at 3:54 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    imagine if special teams doesnt give up punt block…

    D has been almost amazing all year!!! Trust me my s/n was “eaglesd3rdandwrong” last year, had to change it!

  87. 87 BobSmith77 said at 8:05 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Agreed. As mediocre as Bradford has been at this point, they can’t pull the plug on him. Only do that if he has a real dip in performance or he gets injured & Sanchez steps in with better overall play.

  88. 88 JoeBlow said at 2:12 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Giants didn’t move the ball over mid-field in their last 9 possessions.

  89. 89 eagleyankfan said at 8:43 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    There’s whining and there is terrible play. Why can’t people bitch about, say, Kelce? It’s a great win for sure. Kelce didn’t have a great game. CK prides himself on repetitions. No other team does more reps than the Eagles yet, their offense is one of the more out of synch offenses in the nfl. Why can’t people question why?

  90. 90 Sean Stott said at 2:40 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Can’t believe how much you guys are whining about a win.

  91. 91 GEAGLE said at 8:45 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Your that surprised from a community that doesn’t know what a quality Defensive Coordinator is if it slapped them across the face..

    Billy Davis says “shhhhhhhhhhhh”
    Lol crying about wins, what a joke

  92. 92 mksp said at 8:59 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Dude, just for the record, you don’t have to play this “I told you so” card every week with regard to Billy Davis.

    Plenty of people on this board have been happy with him and the defense, for a while.

    I know it gets you off, but it gets real fucking old too. But so does your entire act, so whatever I guess.

  93. 93 eagleyankfan said at 8:50 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    There’s whining and there is terrible play. Why can’t people bitch about, say, Kelce? It’s a great win for sure. Kelce didn’t have a great game. CK prides himself on repetitions. No other team does more reps than the Eagles yet, their offense is one of the more out of synch offenses in the nfl. Why can’t people question why? Still a great win for sure. Still work to be done.

  94. 94 GEAGLE said at 10:26 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Do you THNK last night was a true indication of KELCE ability? Do you expect to see KELCE snap balls over Bradfords head all year? It was a bad game by KELCE, but unless you think it was a true indication of Kelce’s ability, what’s their to bitch about? Safe to say KELCE will give us many more good games, than games like last night……
    And if we are going to bitch after a win, the least we could do is wait 24’hours… It’s fucking hard to win in this league, I’ll be damned if I take any win for Granted…. Have we forgot what this looked like the first two weeks of the season already,? Since then we have improved a lot, isn’t it reasonable to expect that they will continue to improve as long as we stay healthy?

  95. 95 mksp said at 8:58 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I mean, did you watch the game?

    You can’t play as poorly as Sam Bradford played and expect continued success.

  96. 96 Anders said at 3:17 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I find it very odd that both Kelly and Reid was/is known for their offenses here, yet its the DC with the spotty record that has the better unit on this Eagles team

  97. 97 D3FB said at 3:23 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Simple really:

  98. 98 Nelson ALGore said at 3:55 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    worked for him…

    1 year atleast

  99. 99 xmbk said at 6:28 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Johnson’s unit was always the key to Reid’s success.

  100. 100 mksp said at 9:01 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Chip knows his expertise is Offense, so he prioritizes getting actual talent on Defense.

    On Offense he believes his system will conquer all, so we get journeymen Guards, flawed system QBs, and #culture guys like Jordan Matthews.

  101. 101 Media Mike said at 4:55 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    “3-3 feels mighty good, but I’m greedy. Let’s go win next week and keep this thing going.”

    Agreed. Scam Newton and Idiot McDermott are vile trash and must be defeated at all costs.

  102. 102 Media Mike said at 5:19 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The extreme positive of the game is in spite of the mistakes the Eagles made, the Giants were exposed as a fraud.

    It feels really good to do that to a rival.

  103. 103 xmbk said at 6:27 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Like the Cowboys did in week 2? The whole division is looking like a fraud, hopefully Bradford can find some mojo by the time playoffs start.

  104. 104 Always Hopeful said at 7:09 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Ouch…nice combo comment: zinger with optimistic twist. I like it! We need hope of Biblical proportions for Sam to get some Mojo, but it can happen right? Those America’s Game highlight vids always have the adeversity the champs have to overcome. Hopefully Sam and the O can get it together. Still feels like pre-season watching them sometimes.

  105. 105 xmbk said at 6:23 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Ryans stripperception might have been the key play of the game.

  106. 106 stephenstempo said at 8:03 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Maybe if the season when all is said and done

  107. 107 xmbk said at 6:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  108. 108 Flyineagle45 said at 7:19 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Man if Chip didn’t dismantle the offense we would prob be undefeated. We never have 2 things that match. We used to have offense no defense. Now we have great defense no offense, peanut butter no jelly. 🙁

  109. 109 eagleyankfan said at 8:33 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    this doesn’t make any sense, on any level. Stay lost. You can’t play the would have/should have game.

  110. 110 RichEagle said at 9:03 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  111. 111 Flyineagle45 said at 7:30 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    If we are gonna play mediocre QB’s we might as well give Terrell Pryor a chance. Terrell could prob match Bradford’s intensity at sucking.

  112. 112 tomw said at 7:45 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    As the saying goes “Just win,baby”

  113. 113 BobSmith77 said at 7:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Caller on the post-game show said it best:

    The Eagles traded for Bradford because he was supposed to be an upgrade at QB over Foles. It cost the Eagles a 2nd round pick and the opportunity cost of having to pick up Bradford’s considerable salary too. So far he hasn’t been any better than Foles this year or Foles/Sanchez last year.

  114. 114 BobSmith77 said at 8:01 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    That said was this a key win and even if the Eagles lose this week to go into the bye at 3-4 they are still in ‘ok’ shape.

    Not about matching up with the Panthers or Packers right now. Matter of just doing enough to keep ahead of the other midgets in the NFC East in the interim. Way too far off to be worrying about playoff matchups and if/how the Eagles match up with the best teams in the NFC.

  115. 115 BobSmith77 said at 8:07 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Does anyone have a breakdown of production of the Eagles in 2 TE sets vs other sets?

    It seems a lot like in the 2nd half of ’13 when they used that formation more & had a lot more success offensively too.

  116. 116 Ark87 said at 8:37 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    On the QB situation: uhg.

    Ok there’s more to it. We know what Sanchez is. If we think the D can continue to carry this team deep, you go ahead and settle for a mediocre QB. Or even if the run game solidifies and the WR’s start showing better, that’s a place where a mediocre QB can thrive, so you make the switch. Otherwise we’re stuck hoping Bradford can reach that mythical ceiling. Until then, we’ll be trying to win anyway possible in the event that does happen and we can do something in the playoffs.

  117. 117 bdbd20 said at 8:40 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Sanchez is essentially Foles. Good QB, but not special where he can beat a good defense. The hope is Bradford can be that guy by week 11-12. If not, we’ll be looking for someone else.

    No need to replay last season.

  118. 118 Ark87 said at 8:45 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Foles was a bigger risk taker. Had a higher variance in his game. Good Foles could be very good. But mostly he was struggling Foles. Sanchez is closer to Bradford in style. Both of them struggle to throw the field down-field. Sanchez it is a physical issue though. Bradford, I don’t know, might just not have a knack for it.

  119. 119 bdbd20 said at 8:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I’m actually not too concerned with Bradford. I kinda look at him as I would a rookie.

    If he’s still shaky by week 12, I’ll be ready for a change. I just think he has to learn his receivers and learn what Chip and Pat are looking for with each play.

  120. 120 Ark87 said at 9:02 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    A refreshingly grounded approach.

  121. 121 bdbd20 said at 9:05 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I go back to Asante’s comment a few years ago when we got all those veterans cheap. You can’t just plug guys in like Madden.

    There has to be an acclamation period. Aaron Rodgers went 6-10 in his first season as a starter.

  122. 122 sonofdman said at 9:16 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The Packers probably should have just gotten rid of Rodgers then. He clearly didn’t have what it takes to be an ELITE quarterback in the National Football League. If he did, he wouldn’t have gone 6-10.

  123. 123 ChoTime said at 9:50 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Right, EXACTLY same situation.

  124. 124 GEAGLE said at 9:10 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Smart man,,,. SAM will be fine… Still a few weeks away, but I’m not concerned

  125. 125 Tumtum said at 10:12 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Like I said in a previous reply, I am leaning more toward Sanchez every day. You are right. He isn’t special. Bradford has shown he can be, but he has also done very little to inspire confidence. Im not advocating a change now. If things continue as they have though I think a change in philosophy and personnel will be needed.

  126. 126 bdbd20 said at 10:42 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The key here is the upside. I agree that we can be a 10-11 win team with this D/ST and Sanchez/Foles.

    The question is whether that guy can beat a good defense in the playoffs (SEA, AZ, GB). If that guy can’t beat a good defense, then you are stuck with that ceiling.

    It’s great to celebrate 10 wins every year, but it sucks knowing that your QB will struggle against good teams.

  127. 127 Tumtum said at 12:00 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    If things don’t change soon though we will know our QB will struggle vs any D.

  128. 128 BlindChow said at 9:12 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Bradford will at least attempt deep passes. Sanchez won’t.

  129. 129 bdbd20 said at 9:14 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    That was maddening last year. Against SEA and DAL, it was like he just gave up on looking deep.

    In today’s NFL, the rules are set up to take those shots.

  130. 130 ChoTime said at 9:48 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I think Kelly is forcing SB to go long. He has always been Captain Checkdown.

  131. 131 Tumtum said at 9:57 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I’m getting close to being a Sanchize guy. I already think this defense is one of the best in the league and I’m becoming more and more bullish each game. I would love to see this team become ball control focused on offense and really let the defense win games.

    The NFC doesn’t have great offenses this year. Atl seems to be the worst match up problem and I think we will have something more for them if we happen to make it far enough to see hem again.

    If we continue to keep tempo and stay inept on offense, this team will go no where. If not for penalties by the Giants the O would have gotten nothing going.

  132. 132 Mac said at 10:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Has Bradford played in a system with option routes at any point in the past? To me, some of what’s going on seems to be Bradford and the WR in question seeing things differently. The other parts have been drops by WR and some genuinely poor throws by Bradford.

  133. 133 Ark87 said at 11:17 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Probably not too much. And this is the first offense he’s run in 2 years so, we can always hope he comes around. lack of progress is discouraging, but there’s always hope for a break-through.

  134. 134 GEAGLE said at 8:59 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Oddell Beckham Jr., the second coming of Jesus fucking Christ himself.. shhhhhhhhhhhh!
    This past week I wrote a lot about how we are a nightmare matchuo for the Giants AND the Panthers. One ass whooping down, and one more ass whooping to go….

    What will beat the Panthers for us is that we have one of the very best front 4 in terms of rushiñg the QB as one cohesive unit.. We don’t just see 4 guys try to do whatever it takes to get to the QB, you see a selfless group of pash rushers that never stray outside their assignments, they rush the passer while maintaining their gap responsibility…. You won’t find many defenses that rush the passer so well as a cohesive unit, and coehesive, Discaplined pass rush is going to be what beats Cam newton….on most of our sacks we see one guy get the hit, but the other pass rushers collapse the pocket and cut off all of the QBs escape lanes, not allowing them to step up in the pocket or side step a pass rush, and we damn sure don’t let QBs escape AND GET OUt of the pocket

    These players aren’t aout their individual stats, they really are selfless in how they rush the passer as one unit, not caring who’s turn it is to get the sack, which is why when BG and Vinny ARENT getting sacks, it’s ignorant to bash them because usually we have a few pass rushers that do the dirty work so someone else can get the sack on any given play… So even when BG and Curry haven’t been lighting up the sack column, they have been much better than this city has given three credit for… Thankfully they got some sacks so that it can be crystal clear to everyone how they are producing.
    Eagles DL will keep Cam in the pocket, then tighten up the noose and strangle him, while alll jis escape routes are cut off by this Discaplined pass rush

  135. 135 A_T_G said at 9:35 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    For the sake of completeness, you also wrote that we would be match up nightmares for Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans, the Jets, and Washington.

  136. 136 mksp said at 9:41 AM on October 20th, 2015:



  137. 137 GEAGLE said at 9:56 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Ok kid

  138. 138 A_T_G said at 4:14 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    Really? Hours after replying “Ok” you went back and added “kid”? Clever.

    More importantly, you didn’t disagree.

  139. 139 truehaynes said at 10:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    i think we would crush atlanta, dallas and washington if we played them again. our OL was awful in those games. and our change in tendencies would go a long way

  140. 140 GEAGLE said at 10:30 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Washington scares me… They seem to be a bad matchup for us… I hate that we have to play them again in late December, they seem to play us tôugh…
    Week 1 is ANYONES guess… Whacky unpredictable week, atlanta was a brand new team, with brand new coaches….
    OL wasn’t ready to play against Dallas, for some reason they win at the lInc and we win in Jerry’s world it feels like
    Good step in the right direction during the jets win
    Lost to skins
    Beat saints
    Think Giants and Panthers are the two playoff contenders we match up the best against as a team… I expect to win next week, go into bye oh 3 game winning streak, and then beat Cowboys after bye week….

  141. 141 Ark87 said at 9:03 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The one thing I’m liking: The Linc is slowly becoming a nightmare factory for Eli and company. Finally!

  142. 142 GEAGLE said at 9:09 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    We will whoop that ass in NY too….. Giants only won 3 of the past 14 games us… And the only time COUGHLIN has beaten chip is when we had to play them with Barkley at QB
    We are nightmare matchup for Giants and Panthers,..

  143. 143 GEAGLE said at 9:08 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Not exactly the 150 yard breakout performance for Murray than I said it would be, but if you want to count the receptions, he did what he was supposed to do… Not surprising the game film of last week showed Murray how much he was leaving on the table by not trusting the OL, and to no surprise it was corrected lasts night in what was a much more Discaplined rushiñg performance,, unlike last week, Murray trusted that the OL would create the holes they were supposed to, and he was decisive in his Attack, and it manifested in what was the breakout performance I expected to see.
    Great News, NO OL injuries, so this 5 OLineman can build on the much improved blocking they showed these past two weeks..
    Fortunately Mufasa hamstring ISNT serious,,
    Anyone ready to show some respect to Nolan carroll and realize that he is actually a much better starting corner than this FANBASE expected?
    Just need SAM to work his way back to the QB he is capable of being…
    Bradfirds play does bother me, because up and down play is expected from someone in his shoes, but what I can’t stomach is WRs and QBs not being on the same page, running the wrong routes which cost us that INT where Coop stopped running and bradford was going deep, that needs to get cleaned up

    But for a team that isn’t firing on all cylnders yet, we are starting to show the talent level of this roster….. Once we put the Pqnther in their place, we should be back in control…

  144. 144 HawaiianEagle said at 9:19 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Im choosing to look at it that we have yet to gel. And if we can beat gints who were hurt without gelling, good. Oh, and we had some players out too.

  145. 145 GEAGLE said at 9:22 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    We are starting to slap teams around without even playing close to a complete great game on both sides of the ball, scary to think how good this team can be once we clean up some mistakes, SAM gets comfortable and we start firing on all cylnders…

    The top 10 defense has arrived in year 3, right on schedule..

  146. 146 eagleyankfan said at 9:27 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    year 3, right on schedule for the D. What year/schedule is offense coming?

  147. 147 HawaiianEagle said at 9:27 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  148. 148 GEAGLE said at 10:38 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I don’t think it will take that long… Offense should prove to be on a different level during the second half of the season…
    See how much beter Eli playing in year 2? Probably want to wait more than 6 games before we piss on bradford

  149. 149 GEAGLE said at 9:51 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    This is why I was so against chip rebuilding the offense in year 3, becayse I understand this is what happens at the beginning of the gelling phase when you make so many changes…. This is yeàr 1 of this offense, nothing to do but be patiemt.
    Instead of acting like a foolish impulsive group of bitches, maybe we can learn from past mistakes?
    Just a month ago,mWe were ripping Chp a new asshole because we were calling this a mess of an OL…. Yet we just watched them work thru the bad times, start to gel, and start playing some solid balls these past two weeks…..yet SAM is doomed to always such and won’t possibly improve? Absurd
    Lacking patiemce makes us sound like morons.
    Nolan Carroll sucked, 98% of Eagles fans saw a kid that couldn’t possibly be the answer after sitting behind Brad and Cary, yet today, people are actually throwing Carroll’s play in Toms face as if any of you had any belief in Nolan whatsoever going into this season
    First month ripping BG and VINNY when they were actually playing some decent ball, because they weren’t showings up in the stat sheet, last night they dominated..
    My favorite a was after3 weeks the blowhards determine that Murray can’t olay in this offense and that Ryan Mathews is the better back..LOL… Now you see Murray start to get comfortable and begin producing..
    PATIENCE!!!! No way around it…. You have 8 new starters on Offense, excuse me if they haven’t gelled fast enough to our liking, but that doesn’t mean they won’t click, and it damn sue doesn’t mean that we won’t eventually be thrilled to have these players.
    SAM will be fine, and this city will be thrilled to have him, it will just require some patience… I don’t think we will have to wait Til next year, I expect SAM to get comfortable and catch fire at some Point in the nect 3 weeks, but more important than this year, it’s crucial SAM stays heakthy, gets 16 games of experience in this offense, and has a healthy pffseason next year to build on it…. Shurmur and Chip ARENT fools, im sure they understand that this would require some patiemce, and THATS why i wasn’t thrilled to rebuild in year 3, because I understand that this is what you have to go thru when you rebuild….. Patience, we will be rewarded…
    There was a time when Bennie Logan was a bum and we needed to draft his replacement, now he is one of Phillys finest….
    Ideally we would only need 4’games to start to click, but unfortunately there is no set timeline blueprint for this sort of thing.l
    But I struggle to understand how anyone with a brain that knows he didn’t start practicing in this offense Til August 1st, finds this so hard to understand… Learn the hard way, I guess…

  150. 150 sonofdman said at 12:31 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    year 1! Or did you forget already.

  151. 151 mksp said at 9:10 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    So Paxton Lynch with our 1st next year?

    “Paxton Lynch, Memphis, QB: The 6-foot-7, 245-pound junior has been squarely on the radar of scouts based on his spectacular string of 300-yard passing games, but he’s climbing up the charts after showing franchise-quarterback potential in big wins over Bowling Green, Cincinnati and Ole Miss. Lynch completed 39 of 53 passes for 384 yards and three touchdowns against the Rebels on Saturday. Although he tossed his first interception of the season, Lynch continues to display the arm talent, awareness and anticipation to pick apart opponents with pinpoint passes to every area of the field. In addition, he shows better-than-anticipated athleticism and mobility for a long, rangy thrower. Without a clear front-runner in the 2016/2017 quarterback classes, Lynch is beginning to create a buzz for teams in desperate need of a playmaker at the position.”

  152. 152 A_T_G said at 9:49 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Get to the part about his ACL surgeries. Any repeats? Botched jobs? Extenuating challenges? Does he actually have ACLs?

  153. 153 eagleyankfan said at 9:17 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Logan and Cox — what a combination!

  154. 154 mksp said at 9:20 AM on October 20th, 2015:


  155. 155 sonofdman said at 9:22 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    The good news is that 3 of those interceptions came in 2 games where we won by 22 points and 20 points, respectively.

  156. 156 mksp said at 9:23 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Heh. Silver lining!

  157. 157 sonofdman said at 9:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    You know it. It’s the morning after a 20 point win. I choose to be happy and enjoy the win today. We have plenty of time later to worry about the bad stuff.

  158. 158 bdbd20 said at 9:28 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    This is really the key. We are winning games. Gotta get into the playoffs and see what happens.

    No fun in having a great QB and losing every week. Eli and Flacco have proven that regular season stats don’t matter once you get into the playoffs.

  159. 159 eagleyankfan said at 9:30 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    you have to give Bradford time to gel. All other 31 nfl teams are already gel’d. That’s clearly the only reason.

  160. 160 Tumtum said at 9:47 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Sarcasm, right?

  161. 161 A_T_G said at 9:43 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Obviously, not throwing interceptions would be better.

    That said, throwing them in the end zone is less detrimental than throwing them on your own side of the field. You basically “lose” the three first downs to get into the red zone and end up the same as having punted earlier in the drive. Opportunity lost, but no direct damage. Compare that to the pick Eli threw to Carroll last night, which was not a dreaded end zone interception.

  162. 162 Tumtum said at 9:46 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    You really can’t put the one to cooper on Bradford. Still really disturbing.

  163. 163 Ark87 said at 10:06 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I kinda do. 2 Giants were in position to make that pick. If Cooper is in place to contest it, it’s still double coverage. Seemed like Cooper made the correct read? I dunno. I’m not as down on Bradford as most. But didn’t like his decision there. But I kind of like that he was willing to give his guys a chance, even if it wasn’t the best decisions.

  164. 164 Tumtum said at 12:08 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    Cooper could use his body to box out, and contest that ball. I like the idea there.

  165. 165 ChoTime said at 10:03 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    SB has now matched Eli’s NFL-leading red zone interception total from last year.

  166. 166 BobSmith77 said at 9:28 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Do the Eagles go with a RB rotation of Matthews/Murray earlier on as a mix and then turn it over Murray to wear them out in the 2nd half? Curious to see how this develops and if Kelly develops a preferred strategy or just lets conditions & who is performing dictate usage.

  167. 167 HawaiianEagle said at 9:30 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    And no Brandon Graham hate today. Hmm. Showed up last night.

  168. 168 mksp said at 9:40 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yeah he played well last night.

    Against an injured, rookie project LT, but well nonetheless.

  169. 169 HawaiianEagle said at 9:44 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Oh yeah, I forgot how bad the formerly first place gints were. Thanks.

  170. 170 Tumtum said at 9:44 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    It looked to me like their d line didn’t slant much. Am I right?

    I still think the offense is really bad. What has happened to Kelce? Miles Austin needs to play more. He makes plays when he is in.

  171. 171 A_T_G said at 9:46 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    That last statement makes me cringe, because of what it says about the rest of our WRs.

    I wonder if the DL slanting stopped because we showed that we are not always going to run to the side opposite of where the RB lines up?

  172. 172 CrackSammich said at 10:06 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Looks like they were adding in a lot of snap count changes, and Kelce kept screwing it up. Breaking habits can be rough.

    But hey, how about those midseason adjustments by Chip?

  173. 173 GEAGLE said at 10:08 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    What we,see today ISNT neccessarily what we will see next week.
    People,can’t even enjoy these wins because we have so much to work on still, but that’s really what the NFL season is all about. Finding ways to win during the course of the year while you try and grow into a team that can win in December..
    OL can go from putrid to good in one week…. Even if Miles Austin looks better than the young WR’s today, good chance that with game time and continued practice the young WR’s will pass Miles by in the near future… Will it be next week? Who knows
    But a mistake we make too often is we see the most recent performance and think that it’s an accurate depiction of what we see the rest of the year, when really these seasons are about growth, enduring injuries and continuing to grow to hopefully play your best ball in December/January..
    We keep throwing around this term of “we have still to play a complete Game”.. I’m starting to think a complete game is some bullshit like a mythological unicorn… How often have we ever seen a complete game? Even during the great games we will encounter some lows, some adversity, some 3 and outs… It’s rar that a team is in control for 60 minutes and doesn’t face any adversity during the course of a game…
    All that matters is wins and losses, each win or loss will show growth, and will show areas that need to improve. Even in a great win there is always a ton to improve on… The Pats team that won the Super Bowl last year was Nothing like the Pats team we saw in weeks 5 and 6….
    I expect to beat the Panthers, but I don’t expect some perfect game…. I expect plenty of good, and a lot of bad that we will have to continue to work on, but ultimately I think we find a way to win against the Panthers… But the day after the Panthers game, there will be plenty that still needs improving to talk about

  174. 174 Flying B-Dawk said at 10:42 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    You get a lot of shit on this board, but you are spot on with this. Are the Eagles playing great football right now? No. But they’re keeping themselves in the running. You can’t win the lottery if you don’t have a ticket. Who knows how this team plays in weeks 12-16? Even though it hasn’t been pretty, I’m still pretty encouraged. We have a stud defense and with less mental errors from our offense we could be demolishing teams.

  175. 175 Explorer51 said at 11:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    GEAGLE, you crazy but I love your passionate optimism…

  176. 176 Tumtum said at 12:22 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    I don’t care about next week. I care about the game in front of me. I’m not saying to get rid of the other guys. Huff is starting to make some plays. I would like him more involved too. Matthews is a beast, he just can’t get out of his own head right now.

    I don’t think any of the WR should be banished to the bench, but I think that Austin should absolutely get more PT. If that means he takes 2% of everyone else’s snaps, so be it. Let us not forget he was a pretty darn good receiver in the past. Maybe he will only continue to improve as well.

    The age of the players isn’t what motivates these thoughts either. I think that Hicks absolutely deserves playing time even if all of the other LBs are healthy. In fact, I think he should start.

    The list goes on too.

  177. 177 GEAGLE said at 3:10 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    Mah……first 3 weeks of the season, fans thought Austin was completely worthless… He had a solid game, and he has made some decent plays in spot duty, but I don’t expect to get production out of him each week… But because he has been good blocking in the run game, I don’t mind seeing him get some minutes, he should be good for a big 3rd down catch per game, but most important continues to be the development of our young WRs

  178. 178 jpate said at 10:29 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Is there too much responsibility placed on Kelce to make calls? Seems like he’s thinking too much out there and causing boneheaded mental errors.

  179. 179 CrackSammich said at 10:04 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Bradford will be fine.

  180. 180 Bob Brewer said at 11:10 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Based on what?

  181. 181 CrackSammich said at 11:46 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Just venturing a guess, he’s not driving from his plant foot on the throws because he doesn’t trust his knee yet. That’s what I think is leading to the underthrows. Someone pointed out a week or so ago that when he’s on the run, he doesn’t have those issues, which makes me think it’s psychological. His reads are usually correct (the one pick from the Saints game was not), but they end up underthrown. To me that seems pretty fixable with time.

  182. 182 ChoTime said at 12:45 PM on October 20th, 2015:

  183. 183 ChoTime said at 10:11 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    By the way, DeMeco’s interception/fumble recovery whatever was filthy. How the heck do you even do something like that? On a bang-bang play? It is good to see him out there. I felt he was our best ILB this year and felt his injury would be a net negative for the D, despite the additions.

  184. 184 GEAGLE said at 10:18 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I was in awe of how well Demeco played.. He was flying around in coverage, punishing RB with some hard hits, I couldn’t help thnk, how th fuck is this man doing this at this age when he suffered an Achilles tear less than a year ago? I’m in awe of how much Meco has improved from one week to the next and the fact that he was ready to play opening day was remarkable… I’m in awe of MUFASA, and im happy for him that the injury isn’t bad, so he can get back on the field with his troops..
    MUFASA left the game, Baby Simba had to step up and make the calls for the defense the rest of the game, and the young man responded well, led our team once again in tackles, but what was really amazing was seeing baby simba shut down Vereen as a Recieving threat.. Vereen was invisible in the passing game, hicks shut him DOWN COMPLETELY…
    Scary to think what this defense will be when we have all our ILBs that can be rotated and match up specifically against different types of players we encounter..
    Maxwell was bad in the first half, but if you are going to rip him for the first half, gotta tip your cap to him settling down and not giving Beckham anything in the second half…. I kept seeing eli look to his side, be forced to hold the ball, and get sacked… Maxwell must have been holding his own in the second half. I assume he was getting some help of course

  185. 185 HawaiianEagle said at 10:22 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    We shut down ny with a rookie ML and Goode. Reflect upon that.

  186. 186 sonofdman said at 12:25 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    Hee hee. Funny typo.

  187. 187 jpate said at 10:24 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    DROY conversation for Hicks? I don’t know how other rookies are playing.

  188. 188 GEAGLE said at 10:34 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I think he has to be in the convo at this point. Playing out of his mind, but his snap count will probably be cut down a bit when Kemdricks and Kiko come back, Hivks will still play plenty, but he won’t play all game, and im not sure you can win defensive player of the year in a part time role, but there is probably some past precedent for it….

    First half of the season, I doubt many rookie defenders have played better than this LB Savant

  189. 189 TypicalDouche said at 11:03 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    At this point the Eagles just cannot take Hicks off the field even when Kiko and Kendricks come back, he is simply playing too well to be forced back to a limited role. I would give Kiko and Kendricks the limited roles to keep them healthy.

  190. 190 CrackSammich said at 10:40 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    If he gets DROY, he owes Cox and Logan a very large present.

  191. 191 ac134spectre said at 10:29 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I felt like a great game from the defense. Otherwise it looked like two bad teams playing. Just plain old bad teams.

    And it was one guy killing the Eagles.

    Sam Bradford. Every single mistake. Fumbled snap. Ints. Just awful.

  192. 192 GEAGLE said at 10:35 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Yeah that’s just not true…. Plenty other offensive players led to some of the mustakes you pin on Braford…. But yes, SAM isn’t where we need him to be just YET…

  193. 193 ac134spectre said at 3:32 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    No, I’m pretty sure when you see that many WTH? Plays it is the qb. He is new tho

  194. 194 Bob Brewer said at 2:31 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    Jordan Matthews disagrees.

  195. 195 ac134spectre said at 3:15 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    I’m thinking everyone else was good aside from Bradford

  196. 196 GEAGLE said at 10:39 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Anyone else LOL when DRC Burried Huff? First thing that popped to mind is, maybe Huff shouldn’t have talked shit about DRC in the lead up

  197. 197 bdbd20 said at 10:43 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Well, he didn’t exactly wrap up.

    Had this happened when he was here, I’m sure the receiver would have bounced off and ran for 30 yards.

  198. 198 Mac said at 10:55 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Are you serious? I was upset that DRC actually hit a real football player. Where the heck was that when he was in Philly? Maybe I’ll buy him some coloring books so he can get back to work coloring.

  199. 199 bdbd20 said at 10:59 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Maybe he was trying to miss and just messed up the plan?

  200. 200 Gary Barnes said at 10:50 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Similar to last year, the defense kept us in the game and helped us win it even with all the injuries we have on that side of the ball. Great job by them.

    ST has seemed less effective this year and the offense continues to be very inconsistent and self destructive.

    Good win, but 3-3 is hardly worth cheering about. Thankfully we are in a terrible division and have had a soft schedule recently. Carolina is next, undefeated team with a stout defense. If we can beat them, I’ll have more confidence.

  201. 201 HawaiianEagle said at 10:52 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Dunno. The only game IMO we SHOULD have lost was dallas. Agree a win at CAR would be special.

  202. 202 Gary Barnes said at 11:05 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Should has nothing to do with it, we lost all three games on merit IMO. We are what our record says we are: mediocre. Still cannot believe we lost to Washington, but we played so poorly we deserved it. Thankfully, we get another crack at all three of our division rivals and also have the Bucs & Fins at home. If we can win those five games, that gives us 8 and then we need to beat two of Buffalo, Detroit, Carolina and AZ to get to 10. I would argue it is doable if I knew which Eagles team would show up every week.

  203. 203 HawaiianEagle said at 11:11 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Based on the last two weeks I would say the team shows up that is capable of winning even though they make huge mistakes. Good enuf to beat CAR and other “good” teams? Maybe. No team at week 7 is the same team at week 12. Hopefully for us that’s a good thing.

  204. 204 Gary Barnes said at 11:18 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Hopefully, you are right

  205. 205 jpate said at 10:58 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Little tidbit from the giants message boards: Since 2008 Eagles are 12-3 Vs. the giants

    Happy tuesday

  206. 206 Flying B-Dawk said at 11:10 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I wonder how bad the NFC East really is. Even though all of the teams are mediocre, most of the losses have come from within the division and from Atlanta. These are the only non-division losses:

    Swept by the 5-1 Atlanta Falcons
    DAL lost to 5-0 NE and to the 2-4 Saints in OT with Weeden and no Dez
    WAS lost to 4-1 Jets and 2-3 MIA

    I’m not saying the division is good, but everyone acts like it’s the worst division that ever existed. It’s not even the worst division in the league this year, that’s the AFC South

  207. 207 HawaiianEagle said at 11:14 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    I hope we dont get real good, feel sorry for flyers…all the negativity will have to transfer to them.

  208. 208 Ark87 said at 11:19 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    going for that reverse-jynx real hard

    Also thanks to all the Hero’s that played ODB in their fantasy league last night knowing it would doom him. You took one for the team there.

  209. 209 HawaiianEagle said at 11:21 AM on October 20th, 2015:

    Eskine on NFL network. What a tool. DeMarco gos over 100 against the “second best run fefense in football”. Howard says he knows RB and Demarco doesn’t look like one. Stunning insight.

  210. 210 sonofdman said at 12:21 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    I think in the last few weeks, people made all kind of statements about how “Mathews is a better running back than Demarco” or “Demarco doesn’t fit Chip’s system”, and now those people are digging in their heals and ignoring anything that runs contrary to those statements. Demarco looked good last night. He looked fast and showed some burst.

  211. 211 botto said at 12:34 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    but is there any question Mathews looks better?
    I don’t think so.

  212. 212 sonofdman said at 12:37 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    In general this season, I think Mathews has looked better, but I though Murray looked good in the second half last night.

    After last night, to say that Demarco doesn’t look like a RB is ridiculous.

  213. 213 botto said at 12:38 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    well yeah that is ridiculous of course.
    but I want to see more Mathews on the field for sure

  214. 214 botto said at 12:26 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    great game great win giants suck etc.. (and they do!)
    but, has Bradford made any passes, done anything at all, that looks better then Foles did? underthrown passes, INT’s, and more underthrown passes…
    I like Bradford and think he can be better, but I’m waiting. he has a great arm but doesn’t really let it rip at all.
    i’m not questioning the trade at all, just curious if anyone “SEES” him looking better then old St. Nick.

  215. 215 Bob Brewer said at 2:30 PM on October 20th, 2015:

    I don’t think so, but I didn’t mind the trade risk at the time.

  216. 216 anon said at 3:45 PM on October 27th, 2015:

    Gotta correct for drop rate which is 20% in last two games, 10% for the year, historically bad . Bradford was sacked 5 times, hurried 13 but held strong in the pocket . Didn’t run back on every play. Bradford isn’t big Ben he’s a qb that has to rely on his skill position players.