Clean It Up

Posted: December 13th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 151 Comments »

The Eagles won on Sunday. They did this despite:

  • Nigel Bradham dropping a pair of INTs, including one in the Red Zone
  • Mack Hollins dropping a TD
  • Giving up a blocked punt for TD
  • Missing multiple tackles
  • Allowing 5 plays of 20 or more yards
  • Having a false start inside the 1-yard line
  • Allowing the Rams to go 4 for 4 in the Red Zone

The Eagles won that game because Carson Wentz played so well for three quarters and the team was clutch in the 4th quarter, winning in all three phases.

They won’t be able to make those kinds of mistakes with Nick Foles as QB. I’m not saying the team has to be perfect. This isn’t a flawed team that is .500 and fighting for their playoff lives. That was the 2006 Eagles. This is an outstanding team.

But this team doesn’t just want to have a good season. They don’t want to just make the postseason. They want to win the Super Bowl.

To win games down the stretch and in January, the Eagles are going to need to cut down on mistakes and make plays when they those chances come up. That game might have been very different if Bradham caught the ball in the Red Zone. That would have killed a scoring drive and deflated the Rams. That game might have been very different if Corey Clement blocked the correct rusher on the punt. The Eagles still had the lead at that moment.

The fact the Eagles did make those clutch plays in the 4th quarter says a lot about this team. And Foles had a hand in some of those plays. There was real pressure in that game on Sunday. Foles handled it well. That is something that will translate well to the postseason.

The defense really struggled in the 3rd quarter. Jim Schwartz said they were awful. Forget the desperation play at the end and the Rams ran 10 plays for 15 yards in the final quarter. It wasn’t like Jared Goff and Todd Gurley were sitting out, either. The Eagles just outplayed them when it mattered.

The Eagles need to start playing clean football on Sunday. The Giants are hardly tough competition right now, but the Eagles need to get back to good habits.

*****

Doug Pederson said that Zach Ertz is out of concussion protocol and will play on Sunday. That’s the good news.

Stefen Wisniewski sat out practice with a bum ankle. That’s not good. The offense struggled when he went out on Sunday. The combination of Chance Warmack and Isaac Seumalo were not nearly as effective at LG as Wiz had been. That hurt the offense.

Foles is more nimble than some realize, but there is no question that pressure will bother him more than it did Wentz.

The Eagles need the O-line to stay healthy. If Wiz needs to sit Sunday to get back to 100 percent, do it. You can beat the Giants with Seumalo at LG. You aren’t going to win much in January with him. You need Wiz for that.

*****

More than a few people have questioned the Eagles schedule. Just a week ago I wrote about that idea and the need for context. Things change quickly in the NFL.

The Eagles now have wins over:

Chargers 7-6
Panthers 9-4
Cowboys 7-6
Rams 9-4

All of those teams except for Dallas are atop their division or tied for the lead. We’ll see where things end up, but any notion that the Eagles have played a completely soft schedule and beaten only bad teams is just wrong.

Oh yeah…all of those wins came on the road. Even more impressive.

*****

I used to love reading stuff like this. Now it leads to mixed feelings. Love what Wentz did, but it is kind of scary/depressing to have to think about life without him.

*****

Speaking of Mr. wentz…

I can’t believe that slacker isn’t halfway done with his rehab yet.

Get going, #11.

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  • Tom33

    You left out the penalties. Eagles are the 9th most penalized team in the league this year, but have the most penalties against them over the past 3 weeks.

    Need to clean that up too.

    • Guy Media

      Refs need to even those up as well. We’re getting called for a ton of legit stuff, but they’re missing far too much done by other team.

      • phillychuck

        The hold called on Johnson on Wentz’s injury play was 100% phantom–Johnson’s hands were inside the defender’s shoulders the entire time, and he didn’t pull jersey. You never get a hold called in a situation like that in the NFL.

        • P_P_K

          Did you see Johnson mouth, “bullshit”?

  • Derka derka

    I am drunk and I am sad

  • xeynon

    That message from Wentz illustrates why I think it’s rirdiculously pessimistic to think he’s going to miss half of next season. Everything I’ve read about recovery from ACL reconstructive surgery says that while the speed at which it happens is determined by many factors, one of the most important is how hard the patient is willing to work at rehabbing the knee. Wentz is clearly going to work his butt off to come back as soon as he can.

    • Fufina

      Yeah, the ESPN Dr Andrews article really freaked people out, but i think he was referencing more complex ACL injuries with extra damage. From everything we have read is it appears this was a simple non contact ACL injury with no extra damage. Wentz should be back in a red shirt by training camp, and while i am sure he will be playing with a knee protection will be able to start the year as long as there is no setback.

      Will he be 2017 Wentz where he is breaking defenders ankles? probably not straight away, but i think him working from the pocket more initially in the year will actually be a benefit longer term.

    • sonofdman

      In some cases, there is swelling that prevents the patient from having the surgery right away. It seems like it is a good sign that he was able to have the surgery this quickly after the injury.

      • Chiptomylou

        This is correct, I blew out my ACL a year ago and it took around a month before I could have surgery because of swelling. Not a doctor, but I think no swelling is a pretty good sign that the tear wasn’t as bad as it could’ve been.

  • DustyRyder71

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. The Redskins had the most ridiculously front-loaded schedule I’ve ever seen. The Eagles’ two wins against them were high quality wins against a team whose season would have been drastically different had those games gone the other way.

    Strength of schedule numbers without context are meaningless.

    • Guy Media

      The important context is that the 11 (and soon to be 13) teams we beat to start the year 13-2 all have a extra loss because we put one (or two) on them. I think the bottom line is that if you’re a good team you have a lot of wins and if you’re not a good team you choke games.

      • Forthebirds

        Number of winning teams you beat changes week to week. The number is now up to four for the Eagles, and yeah, take out the wins the Eagles have and the number jumps. Winning is winning. It’s a dumb talking point for analysts and Cowbaby fans.

        • EagleOne1983

          The road schedule and our 5-2 record on the road is what has impressed me the most this year. We haven’t played a winning team at home. Which is why we keep blowing out these weak teams.

    • ChoTime

      They did have a very rough start, playing us twice and the other Native American Inspired Team, which was the best team at that point. They also were around #4 in DVOA, and fell to #17, so they’re not playing as well now as they were then.

      • Someguy77

        There are few things you can get people to argue on in DC.

        Their unabashed loathing and disdain for Daniel Snyder is one of them even from non-Redskins’ fans.

      • DustyRyder71

        The wheels really came off for them after the Monday nighter. Both teams beat the living hell out of each other, and the Redskins season effectively ended that night.

    • Insomniac

      I’ve been saying that they were a better team than their record says when people brought up our “weak” strength of schedule. They took the Saints to the brink and they were competitive against good teams (Vikings and beat the Rams). Luckily they weren’t good enough to close out some of those games.

      • DustyRyder71

        I thought from the jump that they were the Eagles’ most formidable obstacle in the East. They’re strong up front on both sides of the ball, I like their secondary, and Cousins can sling it. Their WRs didn’t come together they way they would have liked, and that was probably the beginning of their downfall. But they gave us two knock-down, drag-out games, and they took some good teams down to the wire… you gotta respect that. They reminded me a little of the 2016 Eagles. They could made a big leap next season.

  • Masked Man

    Hey, hold on Carson! Is this like Lady Friend Action or something??

    This has not been discussed for the flock of following fans to learn more about. Details. Give us details!

    (Haha. Whoever she is, they look nice together. Get well soon!)

    • Ankerstjernen

      I think she is his college girlfriend. This is one grounded dude we are dealing with.

      • FairOaks

        From the old articles, she was his high school girlfriend, and the relationship survived going to different colleges.

        She has apparently had two torn ACLs, one in high school and one in college.

        • SteveH

          Well shit, there’s your problem, she’s practically a walking ACL epidemic. Sorry Carson you’re going to have to cut her loose.

          • Ark87

            If they have Children they will all be absurdly athletic with string-cheese ACL’s

          • Someguy77

            it’s contagious apparently.

        • sonofdman

          How long did it take her to recover? This is the missing piece of evidence that will tell if Carson will be ready for next season.

        • Insomniac

          So..we should find him a new girl because this one clearly won’t give us a Wentz 2.0 with healthy ACLs in 30 years?

    • or____

      Very old news. His religion demands he marries the first girl to give him cooties. She moved to Philly with him from ND. Was well reported during the draft.

      • xeynon

        I’d rather he settle down with some nice young lady from North Dakota than be off vacationing in Mexico with Jessica Simpson during our playoff bye week or having a tabloid affair with Carrie Underwood or some such. No risk of being distracted that way. Personal life drama can affect work performance in other professions – why wouldn’t it for a football player also?

        • or____

          I honestly agree fully. I was joking around. I love that he’s with a real person who’s probably a great human being. She’s wearing a Dutch Destroyer bracelet, and not some flashy jewelry and she looks real, not fake. Usually players wife’s/girlfriends are groupie types (generalization).

          • DustyRyder71

            I love that he’s had the same girlfriend since high school. P***y hounds tend to make for lousy leaders (also a generalization, but one I’ve found to be mostly true in life).

            She has a Jennifer Aniston girl-next-door look about her. Definitely cute.

      • Masked Man

        See, now there’s details!

        Nice young ND girl. Back from his college days. Moved to Philly to be near him. Nice story.

        Honestly first I heard of it though, as much as I pay attention to Eagles football.

    • Bert’s Bells

      It’s his personal nun.

    • RobNE

      This isn’t US Weekly or People magazine.

    • Corry

      How’d you miss the story on him getting in trouble for watching film during “date night” with his girlfriend? I’m also pretty sure he was watching film at a restaurant.

      • Masked Man

        Remember that, but didn’t know who the date was with or the back story…

    • ChoTime

      Very wholesome-looking lady!

  • Ankerstjernen

    At this point you have to think, that if Will Beatty is not an improvement over Seumalo and Warmack at LG, he is not the back-up player they hoped for when they signed him. I mean, if he is worse (as if that is possible) they should just cut him now so they can bring in someone else.

    • Guy Media

      I’m 100% with ripping Will Beatty in perpetuity because he’s a Giant, but wasn’t he signed to be a tackle here?

      • A_T_G

        That was what I understood. He was depth brought in because of Peters.

      • kajomo

        Steve Smith flash backs.

      • Ankerstjernen

        Yes. But I was working from the theory that if he is in playing shape at all, he should be a huge upgrade over any of our backups at LG.

    • Stephen E.

      Beatty has never played G in the NFL, so that is a potential issue.

      • Ankerstjernen

        Seomalu and Warmack are serious issues right there. was my point .-)

  • Bert’s Bells

    Also left out Agholor muffing a pass between the numbers and turning it into a pick that resulted in a quick 7 points.

    • Ark87

      That wasn’t good, luckily he bounced back. I had some concerns about the resilience of his new-found confidence. Seems like he is genuinely back on track, very nice that he isn’t a bust.

      • Bert’s Bells

        Not trying to bash Agholor. Mistakes happen. He’s obviously under a microscope at this point because of his history.

        If it was just a drop to the turf, it would be forgettable. Sure he would’ve converted a first down. The interception and points are what make it stick out.

        • Ark87

          Oh I didn’t think you were. It was a good point, if not for that and the 2 dropped picks that game would have been over by half-time. The score didn’t match the complete level of dominance the Eagles displayed in the first half because of a couple of critical mistakes.

          Just saying I was glad that he and the team bounced back in a big way from that moment. I’m not used to Eagles teams bouncing back from big mistakes against tough opponents.

  • daveH

    Thers 25 million other beautiful ladies out there willing to love you man but finding one is awesome. Way to live dude, get better soon.

  • Corry

    My only concern with Wentz and his injury is that he’s going to push himself too hard and re-injure himself. As long as he follows the rules and is smart about it, I have little doubt he’ll be ready for the start of the 2018 season.

    With Foles, Pederson is pumping him up publicly, but I would be shocked if we didn’t become a heavy run team (I mean from start to finish. Not just because w’re winning by 28 points in the 4th). Foles will be fine with a good run/play action passing game. My biggest concern is the defense honestly. They just have not been playing as well as they had in previous weeks.

    • A_T_G

      I think we got by for a week or two, but I think teams have since identified some chinks in our armor with the absence of Hicks. The increased nickel and dime packages and the replacements only get us so far.

      • Corry

        I think you’re right. The Rams exploited our ends crashing in for inside runs. If you watch 1st through 3rd quarters, our ends crashed, Gurley ran outside towards our corners. In the 4th, our ends stayed home and gave Gurley nowhere to go.

      • xeynon

        The “heavy nickel” package is not going to be viable against teams like the Rams or Saints with elite power running games. We will need Ellerbe to step up and be a viable 3rd LB if we have to play either of those teams in the playoffs.

      • Insomniac

        Maybe. Hicks was under performing this season compared to last season so we might not have missed him that much. The problem is that we have no decent backup for him.

        • Stephen E.

          I dunno. One of our backup LBs is Goode.

    • Ark87

      I really haven’t heard of anyone re-tearing an ACL in rehab, isn’t the thing screwed in place while it all heals? Pretty much have to put more stress on it than you are physically capable of without rehab and healing was my understanding. Could be totally wrong, feels like there have been countless iterations of the ACL surgery and recovery since it was invented. I can’t keep up with the changes and advances.

      • Corry

        Nor have I. I guess I should have worded that differently and said, I’m concerned he’ll get injured again (as in not the same ACL or even similar injury but do something else). Recovery from that type of surgery is a process and rushing it can open you to other types of injury.

        • CTbirdsguy

          As an elite athlete with world-class medical attention, I don’t think there’s any reason to be concerned about that. Nothing will be overlooked, and Carson will not be lazy. He’ll make sure to have a strong core (likely stronger than before) upon return to activity, make sure all the muscles can fire with precision, and won’t do anything the graft can’t handle before they’re certain it can.

          • Corry

            Laziness isn’t a concern at all. It’s the overworking aspect that concerns me.

  • TO BLACKS

    I’d BANG HER RIGHT IN HER PUSSY

  • Someguy77

    This if the first year under Fipps that special teams have gone from a strength to being suspect. Part of that is due to the injuries to Sproles and Maragos going on IR but coverage/long-snapping have had their issues this year.

    I would love to see the stats but I bet the game winning pct when a team allows a blocked punt/FG & return for a TD is less than 20%. Wouldn’t be surprised if it is less than 10%.

    • Jamie Parker

      I think either Kempski or BLG wrote an article precisely on this last year. I can’t find it though. I think it is closer to 10%.

  • Someguy77

    I guess I equate the mistakes in different categories. Hollins and especially Bradham were missed opportunities. Not expecting Bradham to create turnovers by INTs even if they are thrown right at him & he played fairly well otherwise.

    The other issues (multiple penalties including offsides/motion/false starts, blocked punt returned for a TD, consistent missed tackles) are things that are bigger issues and if they are linger this team won’t win a playoff team.

    Beat the Giants or even Raiders but not better teams that are pretty evenly matched vs Eagles.

  • or____

    Whelp, there goes net neutrality. God i hate greedy capitalists.

    • Insomniac

      It’s going into the courts now right? At least that’s what my smarter co-workers were saying. It’s not dead yet but Pai and the ISP minions are sticking the knife with tetanus in further.

      • or____

        I trust Ark87’s take. But I sure hope so. Ugh

    • Ark87

      Good news is this was the given part we expected to happen. The former FCC chair, Tom Wheeler outlined it all very nicely. All of our efforts and resources come in the fight that follows. The decision has to go to a federal ledger to be published. This will take a few weeks to a month. Once it’s published it can be appealed in court. A court that has twice upheld net neutrality. And we are armed to the teeth for a legal battle.

      And if all that fails. Give me 4 years of voting your asses off and there’s nothing we can’t fix. Nothing is permanent.

      • or____

        Good to know, and very well explained.

      • Julescat

        DACA functional? – bad example

        • Ark87

          How so?

          • Julescat

            a law that rewards people who broke the law and didn’t get caught. This encourages people to rip off taxpayers for free benefits, healthcare and education.

          • Ark87

            It gets people who were brought here as children (and only them, not their parents or human traffickers who brought them), who did not have green cards, SSN, birth certificates, or any of the other things required to get social benefits afforded to American citizens, and allows them to work legitimately and become tax payers with no benefits besides not having to fear being deported to a country they have no memory of. Literally the only rewards is being allowed to pay taxes.

          • Julescat

            so they break the law coming here. They take benefits fraudulently (more laws broken) and then demand citizenship?

            sorry. laws shouldn’t reward previous bad acts.

          • sonofdman

            You don’t read so well, do you? I’m sorry that our education system has failed you.

          • Ark87

            he’s got to be a troll, time to dive into his history!

          • ChoTime

            FYI, I only can see your part of the conversation.

          • Ark87

            I think he is the genuine article. He doesn’t hang out on MSNBC and Huffpo baiting liberals. He genuinely hangs out of a website called Weasel Zippers with headlines like:
            “New ISIS Propaganda Poster Shows Trump Kneeling Before Jihadi John-Style Executioner In Jerusalem…The DNC gives it two thumbs up!”

            I will block people who I think are only out to get a rise out of me. I can’t in good conscience block someone who just has a radically different world-view from me. But I am now educated enough to know he’s in deep, and there’s not much I can say to him, we live in completely different realities.

          • Julescat

            good job defending your argument with solid backup points to refute what i posted.

            oh wait, you just did an ad hominem attack instead.

          • Ark87

            you just proved his point, he isn’t defending his argument. He didn’t make one. Because he isn’t me.

          • sonofdman

            You consistently ignore everything that Ark87 explains to you, so why would you listen to anything I have to say?

            For example, Ark87 explained above that DACA “allows them to work legitimately and become tax payers with no benefits besides not having to fear being deported to a country they have no memory of.” But you still claimed that “they take benefits fraudulently.”

            Thus, the only reasonable conclusion I could come to is that you don’t read so well.

    • Stephen E.

      So, what is net neutrality?

      Free reign to internet companies to shut down whatever they want? Were they doing that before 2014?

      • or____

        Others can explain it better, but there are about infinity in-depth explanations all around the country online right now. I’d suggest one or some of them…

      • xeynon

        Imagine a toll road. Everybody has to pay, but anybody can use the road in the same way, so long as they have a road legal vehicle and obey the laws, and everybody pays the same amount to use it (with some exceptions such as heavy users like trucks paying more). That’s the internet with net neutrality, with heavy bandwidth users standing in for trucks.

        Now imagine a toll road, but one the operators of which car companies can bribe to charge more to or throttle the traffic of certain makes of car (say, those of rivals). If you have a Chevy, or a Ford, or a Honda, you have to pay $5 extra to use this road, because Toyota has a deal with the toll collectors. Or alternatively, you can use it at the same price as Toyota drivers, but you’re consigned to using only one of the four lanes, with the other three for the exclusive use of those driving Toyotas. That’s the internet without net neutrality.

        Basically, the telecoms will chop up your internet bill the way they chop up your cable bill, and charge you separately for each website you want to visit.

        • Ark87

          Good metaphor. But to enhance it to emphasize one point: the ISP’s don’t own the internet. Imagine Ford making a power play to be able to install gps-linked governors in your car. If you go anywhere ford doesn’t want you to go, the thing shuts your engine off or passive aggressively throttles your engine to go under 10 miles per hour. Oh and if you want your car to take you anywhere to a place of business to spend money or make money, Ford wants a cut or the car won’t let you go there. Oh and by the way, “Ford” in this case has already merged or acquired all of it’s competition in your region. But don’t it’s not a monopoly, because you could always ride you bicycle down highway if you wanted to.

          • jshort

            All very confusing! So should I buy a Toyota or a Ford?

          • Ark87

            Ford merged with Toyota in your region. Your choice is to drive a Ford, ride a bicycle, walk, or stay at home

          • poobster

            But who is providing the bandwith? who built the road?

          • Ark87

            Generally speaking the roads are all the lines that connect all the servers that combine to make the virtual space that is the internet. No one ISP built them or owns them. And the lines were subsidized by the US tax-payer to varying degrees depending on region. So none may dictate which roads you travel.

            Your ISP is just a privatized utility company that provides you a wire to the Internet.

        • Ark87

          Good metaphor. But to enhance it to emphasize one point: the ISP’s don’t own the internet. Imagine Ford making a power play to be able to install gps-linked governors into your car. If you go anywhere ford doesn’t want you to go, the thing shuts your engine off or passive aggressively throttles your engine to go under 10 miles per hour. Oh and if you want your car to take you anywhere to a place of business to spend money or make money, Ford wants a cut or the car won’t let you go there. Oh and by the way, “Ford” in this case has already merged or acquired all of the car dealerships in your region. But it’s not a monopoly, because you could always ride you bicycle down highway if you wanted to.

      • Ark87

        Net Neutrality, also called “open internet” by former Federal Communications Commission chair Tom Wheeler, basically says ISP’s can’t dictate what version of the internet you get. ISP’s have to provide you access to the internet, unhindered by their own interests. You don’t get to say, hey I see you making money on my product, give me a cut or I cut you off from my customers, or put certain services on the internet behind a paywall.

        As for has it happened before,Yes and no. The internet used to be navigated on the Phone lines. Phone lines are what are called a “common carrier”, which had regulations going waaaaay back. So once the internet went fully digital, this opened up all sorts of doors. Basically imagine a guy with a Tesla electric car looking at a cop and telling him, “look all those speed limits and road signs were made for the combustion engine, this bad boy here is electric, none of that applies to me anymore”. The response: net neutrality.

        As for has it happened before.The earliest forms were phone companies trying to do all sorts of stuff to the internet because it was on their phone lines, and people started making a ton of money and they wanted a cut. Which didn’t fly because the phone lines are a protected common carrier, you can sell the service, you don’t get to tell people how to use it. More recently in the digital age were cell phone companies like Verizon blocking certain apps the provide services for free that it offers for a fee.

      • Julescat

        Google, youtube, twitter, facebook all shut down whatever they want since forever.

        what’s the big deal?

        • Ark87

          That’s a distraction tactic. FCC doesn’t have anything to do with those companies as they are not communications providers. They are not a utility provider and they are all free to use.

          Sure those companies should be criticized, but that’s not the issue at hand, now is it?

          • Guy Media

            Thank you for continuing to smash RW talking points on this!

          • Julescat

            how is it any different?

            because you agree with their agenda?

          • Ark87

            Nope. The FCC doesn’t regulate internet content. It regulated communications providers.

            We’re talking about the FCC and it’s duties. If you want to talk about creating some other agency to regulate face book, by all means. But that isn’t current events

          • Julescat

            I believe my answer was to Stephen E’s post

          • Ark87

            Then you need to work on your reading comprehension

          • Julescat

            keep on with your bad self defending government overreach to control everything.

          • Ark87

            make a point. Is all you can do is parrot buzz words and non-nonsensical Trump tactics, specifically the ever so trendy “what aboutisms”? That isn’t an argument. If you are on trial for murder, “what about Hitler?” is not a valid defense.

            Make an actual case for why net neutrality is bad. I’ve made my case all down this thread and you’ve yet to make a valid rebuttal, just point to something off-topic.

          • Julescat

            the last thing I want is some creep like obama (who used the IRS as a weapon against political opponents) having control of the internet. Free market works better.

          • Insomniac

            You’re clueless. Get educated on this topic, go back to drinking your moonshine or some shit.

          • Ark87

            What is the state of the ISP market at the moment?

          • RobNE

            The IRS thing is not true. Eh why am I bothering.

          • Guy Media

            Because others will read your words and learn the correct version of things. Y’all are doing a great public service.

          • Sean E

            Why was the internet perfectly fine from 1990 to 2015, but it won’t be after NN is removed post 2017? That’s what I’m not seeing.

          • Ark87

            I mentioned this below but this is becoming a huge text wall and it got drowned

            “As for has it happened before,Yes and no. The internet used to be accessed on Phone lines. Phone lines are what are called a “common carrier”, which had regulations going waaaaay back. So once the internet went fully digital, this opened up all sorts of doors. Basically imagine a guy with a Tesla electric car looking at a cop and telling him, “look all those speed limits and road signs were made for the combustion engine, this bad boy here is electric, none of that applies to me anymore”. The response: net neutrality.”

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Completely off topic.

    So, here’s the scenario. In the last week of the season, the 0-15 Cleveland Browns play @ the Steelers, who are resting their starters with HFA locked up.

    How will the Browns mess up it up? Or will they finally get a W?

    • Corry

      They’ll win. Barely.

      • Dragon_Eagle

        I’d be willing to bet against that.

    • Insomniac

      They’ll run out of QBs..oh wait they never really had one.

      • Dragon_Eagle

        Well, its not like they ever had an opportunity to get one.

        • P_P_K

          Good one.

    • SteveH

      I would take the Steelers 2nd unit over the Browns.

      • Ark87

        I’m with you. At this point it’s not just talent, it’s about being a functional team. The Browns are a hot mess

  • GermanEagle

    Since the Wentz injury went ‘very well’ maybe we can designate him for IR to return come Super Bowl Sunday.

    Or in other words: has there ever been a ACL surgery known as not going well…?

    • RC5000

      Yeah it doesn’t mean much of anything but if they said nothing or anything else would that not disturb us? Sixers fans go cray cray when it’s silent on the medical front.

    • xeynon

      When it doesn’t go well they tend not to say anything at all.

    • Insomniac

      Don’t know about ACLs but Shariff Floyd’s career is over after a botched surgery.

    • A_T_G

      Cornelius Ingram. His draft stock dropped because it was done poorly and his career ended when it popped again.

      • daveH

        I’m was always cool with drafting him. .. a travesty that a kid like that got wrecked how it happened and didn’t even get good medical care

  • RC5000

    So Wisniewski returned to practice today…

    Meanwhile center Jason Kelce appeared to briefly go down in the early moments of Thursday’s practice at the NovaCare Complex and spiked his helmet before walking out of the door of the indoor practice field. Kelce later returned, but it is not yet known the nature or severity of whatever injury he might have suffered.

    http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2017/12/eagles_vs_giants_injuries_latest_on_stefen_wisniew.html

    • Insomniac

      I didn’t think I would say it this season but we can’t lose Kelce. If we have to put the combination of Big V – Warmack and Seumalo in then we might as well sign more QBs that are willing to die for a paycheck.

    • Sean E

      According to Kempski Kelce got cleated and is fine

      • Jamie Parker

        A left side of the O-line of Vitai, Warmack, and Seumalo is enough to give nightmares, and not to a defense.

  • Bert’s Bells

    True story:

    I moved my office recently. A couple weeks ago I get a package for the previous tenant, I track down their website and email them. No reply. I mark it return to sender. It comes back to me anyway.

    I figure what the heck, lemme see what this is. Open it up -an authentic Eagles jersey. (NOTE: I’m in Brooklyn)

    Twist: it’s a Vick 7. And no way can wear a racketeering, tax-evading, dog-killer’s jersey.

    • sonofdman

      Get “Sudfeld” patch and sew it on over Vick’s name!

      • Bert’s Bells

        Imma Sharpie that shit.

        • daveH

          ..and duct tape

      • or____

        Garcia?

        • sonofdman

          Garcia is old news. Sudfeld is the present!

      • Dragon_Eagle

        Yeah, Sudfeld that shit. You will be so far ahead of the curve.

        • sonofdman

          People may laugh now, but just wait until Foles gets hurt and Sudfeld comes in an wins us the NFC championship and Super Bowl.

          • Dragon_Eagle

            Not laughing at all.

            Had multiple conversations today at work about the backup QB situation. From that, decided I trust Doug, Frank Reich, & Filippopotmatus on deciding who our backup QB should be. There’s not much out there in free agency, Cough* Kaepernick cough*, but if that trio believe in Sudfeld, I’m good with it. They seem to know something about developing QBs.

    • Stephen E.

      I didn’t know he was still doing those things.

      • Bert’s Bells

        Whatever. I don’t wish him ill, but he shouldn’t be celebrated.

    • or____

      Crazy. You’d think whoever purchased it would try to track down the shipping error. They ain’t cheap.

      • Bert’s Bells

        ebay

        • or____

          Well there’s that.

    • daveH

      Ill take it .. ill meet you at The Other Half Brewery

      • Bert’s Bells

        No problem with him getting a second chance and making a living. Still not a chance I’m gonna like him or want his name on my back. Heck, he was a creep as Falcon before he got busted.

        The fact that he was so talented and still such a scoundrel (and lazy underachiever) makes me like him even less.

        • daveH

          Yep. Certainly Not willing to give bad guys a free pass just cause they play football.
          San Dimas high school football Rules!

  • A_T_G

    Carefully climb down off of that bridge…
    https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/941405161351770112

    • SteveH

      That’s great news. Not so great for Kelce’s pain levels, but awesome for our long term prognosis season wise.

    • daveH

      Dam recyclin bin has been giving me wierd looks lately

  • SteveH

    It’s really fortunate Foles gets the sad sack Giants to knock off the rust against. I don’t even know who some of these people are we’re going to be throwing against.

    • daveH

      We better win it

    • Dragon_Eagle

      Sort of. Division games are always tricky. Yes, Giants are banged up, suck, have nothing to play for, and are on their 2nd coach, …. yet those f’ers are going to be up for this game. Almost a Lose-lose situation.

  • SteveH

    Bryce Treggs is back on the practice squad. If Shelton Gibson had been a UDFA instead of a 5th rounder I bet Treggs made the squad instead of Gibson.

    • Insomniac

      Gibson plays ST and Treggs doesn’t I think?

      • sonofdman

        Gibson has stood out on punt and kickoff coverage in the past couple games.