Faking It
Posted: January 13th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 347 Comments »I was talking to my sister about a friend of ours that we’ve known for years. I mainly keep up with our friend through Facebook, and her life seems pretty ideal. Good husband. Great kids. Great job. Tons of family activities (trips to Disney, perfect Christmas, skiing trips, etc.). Anyone following the family on Facebook thinks this group makes the Cleavers look like the Mansons. We’re talking about the All American family.
My sister tells me that things are nowhere close to what they seem.
I share this story because it can be true in the NFL. We didn’t know there were issues between Chip Kelly-Howie Roseman-Tom Gamble, but that marriage broke up pretty quickly. Today we find out Denver had some issues.
Like 49ers G.M. Trent Baalke and former head coach Jim Harbaugh, Broncos G.M. John Elway and coach John Fox weren’t getting along. Unlike Baalke and Harbaugh, Elway and Fox kept the dysfunction under wraps until very recently.
“This is not just something that happened because they lost in the playoffs,” Jay Glazer said Monday night on FOX Sports One regarding the divorce in Denver. “This is actually a situation that has been going on for quite some time and I said yesterday on FOX NFL Sunday, ‘There are teams that are looking at the Denver Broncos, because if they lose, John Fox might become available.’ The reason I said that is because I already knew that there was a chance that John Fox was going to come available, just because the working relationship there between he and John Elway, it wasn’t the greatest working relationship. With John Elway and John Fox, it started off great, but then it started not working out.
“John Elway looked at this season as, ‘This is all or nothing, with what we spent, you’ve got to go win us a Super Bowl.’ And the relationship between Elway, not just with Fox, but with the entire coaching staff, they both needed a split from each other.”
NFL teams are run by powerful men who have egos. Sometimes the men will clash. The Broncos managed to keep their situation under control during the year, just like the Eagles did.
More than a few people want to label the Eagles as dysfunctional. To me, that’s more a team like the Niners, where the problems festered for a long time and went unresolved for quite a while.
There are a handful of teams where everything is truly hunky-dory, but there are plenty of teams where things might look okay from the outside, but there are more issues than you know. This is true of most workplaces, not just the NFL.
Let’s put this John Fox news into perspective.
John Fox will be only 2nd HC in NFL history not to return to his team after three straight 12-win seasons; the other, Tony Dungy, retired.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 13, 2015
That’s pretty amazing. John Elway is turning is back on a winner in hopes of finding someone who can put the team over the top and deliver a title. That’s dumb or bold, depending on your perspective.
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Ready for some draft talk?
I’ve been posting some nuggets over at ScoutsNotebook and I’m pleased to announce Tyler Alston, aka D3FB from the Comments section, will be sharing some of his scouting reports this year.
First up is Kentucky OLB/DE Bud Dupree.
The full scouting report is up at SNB. Here is Tyler’s take on how he fits in with the Eagles.
FIT WITH THE EAGLES: I grade out Dupree pretty equally to last year’s number 5 pick Khalil Mack. Mack was a bit more polished; Dupree is bigger and has more experience against top flight competition. Short of coming in much smaller than measured and running poorly while failing drug tests like an extra from “Half Baked” I don’t foresee him being available for the Eagles. He will however make some fan base very happy as a consistent playmaker off the edge.
I’ll be posting more reports from Tyler in the next couple of days and throughout the pre-draft period.
Really good stuff. Make sure to read his reports.
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A young lady I know, let’s call her Elaine:, happened to find herself overwhelmed with feelings of resentment and hostility for her friend, let’s call him George
Classic!
Somehow I feel a little better about our own dysfunction knowing other teams are dysfunctional too.
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First off congrats to Tyler/D3FB, always post informative and well reasoned pieces.
And I think its a good sign that its Chip is taking his time to hire a ‘GM’ better to be sure than to hire somebody before you interview everyone you wanted to. We had to wait for Chip and that turned out pretty ok didn’t it.
Marynowitz gets the job in the end…. Then again, I’m starting to see local media start to sAy the same thing, so naturally I’m starting to feel less confident about it then I was yesterday
No problem with him if he gets the job, if hes the guy chip wants. Chip would know what his opinions of players from the last 2 years were, not a guarantee of future success if he was right, but if he missed on a lot of guys, he wouldn’t get the job.
Do you think he’s the best for the job? Or that’s who Chip wants? Or both? Neither?
I’m intrigued by the guy from Seattle, but really I don’t know much about that position outside of what I read.
I don’t think you can find anyone in a comment section, even remotely qualified to offer any type of meaningful opinion on who the best candidate is for this job, because none of us know all the candidates well enough.
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The reason, I post that is because Yesterday I was told it would be Marynowitz in the end, and since I heard that, seems like some local media heard the same. with guys like Rube saying the same thing today.
Dupree? Could there be a player less likely to fall to #20 than Bud Dupree? We wish!
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Cardale Jones in 3rd round.
Any chance this happens? Would it be worth the gamble?
I say 4th or 5th, but then Im all for it (altho he wont fit Kelly’s demand about a college degree.
Not enough tape to go before the 4th imo, but it only takes one team
Eh… The kid is real green. He’d have to sit for a couple of years, and has so little tape that I can’t imagine anyone would be comfortable spending a high pick on such an unknown. But he’s got experience on a huge stage versus top competition and nailed it, albeit with a great running game to lean on. I don’t think there’s any GM in the league that wouldn’t be asking the same question every single round in the draft.
One word: BrandonBridge.
More athletic, quicker release, not a head case.
Are u Bridge lol or his dad/agent 🙂
Tell us more about this kid and why he’s better
Arm strength? touch throws? measurable? scrambler? senior?WRs and Oline he plays with talent level?
He’s 6’5″, 235 pounds, has an unbelievable arm and a very quick release. He can run and he looks about as fast as most wide receivers.
He’s raw. The kind of guy you can pick up in the 3rd or 4th round and sit behind Foles for a year. Seems to throw too hard at times so will need to work on his touch.
He seems very intelligent and comes from a good, stable family. He should be the kind of guy that a genius like Chip Kelly could turn into a top NFL starter in his system, without wasting all his picks to trade up.
But, check out the you tube videos on him. There’s not a lot, so it won’t take too much time.
I watched the video and like how he plays.
1.Nice Zip on his throws
2. Better pocket awareness than expected to see
3. His WR kinda stink imo (just from the video)
4. Lateral agility and looks to throw before taking off on run
5.Pretty accurate deep ball against Miss ST (a lot of pros come from that program last few years)
I think this would be a great 3rd+ pick going off of the tape u showed
I can honestly see why u are so high on him now lol thx for the heads up
Im a fan of taking a chance on Bridge on the 3rd day of the draft.
I heard he freezes before the surrounding players.
I heard if all of his friends jump off of him he’d jump too…
the perfect play for him:
Draw
I heard he is expected to go between Chorus and Verse at the Radio City Music Hall.
I’ve got this quarterback to sell ya…
Jones doesn’t know what he’s doing. Pretty much all and only tools showing from that guy, so he is a long way from any sort of finished product. Add to it that he has all these tools, how come he didn’t beat out JT in the first place?
Interesting that you don’t apply that logic to QB performance.
In college, a devastating arm can do all of the work. Tom Savage, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc. That’s true in the pros, but pro work requires a considerable degree of refinement of QB skills and more all around athleticism.
For example, I do not buy that Kaepernick or RGIII are particularly unrefined at this point. A lot of their problems come from their team, rather than their own abilities. Kaepernick also sat out an entire year. Yet, we talk about them as more athletes than QB rather unfairly.
In this case, Jones is more athlete than QB, and is comparable to a Brandon Bridge sort of prospect. He needs a ton of tutoring before he can even step out onto the field, particularly if there isn’t a GREAT OL in front of him.
My love for Joe Webb? He’s one of those athletes that has shown some sort of natural QB ability for the NFL, as opposed to Josh Portis, Matt Jones, Ryan Perriloux, or Pat White. Also, he is an extreme athlete. He’s basically between Kaepernick and Newton. Slightly slower long speed than Kaep, slightly smaller than Newton, and slightly weaker arm than both. He’s far more agile than Kaep, materially faster than Newton, and throws with much more touch than either. For all real intents and purposes, you can actually run a triple option in the NFL with Joe Webb, because a QB with genuine high performance RB (McFadden-style) capability, is a home run threat with his legs every time he has the ball. With that arm, a home run threat through the air. Again, any sort of indication that Joe Webb is trustworthy and reliable as a passer basically means that he can be a franchise QB. He should have long since had the Skelton lengthy examination, already.
Oh no! Not here too!
LOLZ it can’t be contained
Would u be against a 5th on him? I would be ok with or without him. I still Believe in Foles
This Tyler Alston kid sounds like a hot prospect, but can supplant Trash Can on the roster?
Congrats D3FB / Tyler! Awesome news.
If Dupree is there at #20 we have to take him. Seems unlikely, as he is the exact type of prospect that will fly up boards during the pre draft mania.
I have seen him available at 20 a lot but people always mock us Tray Waynes, Marcus Peters or PJ Williams (the last 2, I have zero clue on why)
There’s no way we take one of those guys ahead of Dupree. Or I hope not. Would be a classic Need vs. BPA mistake.
6’4 260lbs with a 40″ vertical. He’s gonna own the dog and pony show.
yea Dupree has been a crush of mine all college season, but I just cant see how he want go top 15 if he crushes the combine
I would love Dupree at 20 and let Marcus Smith focus on learning Barwin’s spot while Dupree learn the predator spot
Not allowed to learn on the job. I he’s not an All Pro by game 6 he’s nothing.
Reading this topic’s title I thought for a minute Cardale Jones was ‘Faking’ his coming out.
Congrats to Tyler! If this platform gets more of his informative writing out there, this is great news. Always learn something when he posts.
Congrats D3FB.
Wow about Denver. That seems rash, and I don’t know what else they could of done with an injured Manning. Oh well, at least it’s not our team in turmoil.
This how I feel exactly with a little more WTF really Elway? I hope shanny goes home lmao
Tommy, stop poaching the talent out of our comment section.
You feel pressure to perform now, don’t you?
Pfff, I’m going to pack it in, maybe start eating lunch in my car instead of with the comment section. Leadership is letting our talent go. This comment section is clearly in rebuild mode. Why bust my hump commenting for such a comment section, it’s a business decision.
Next thing you know ACV will be gone doing an anthology on the history of the game, you and Baloophi will get the corner on entertaining sports podcasts. Anders will start up some sort of Scandinavian (maybe?) website in his native language (and it turns out he’s got a wicked sense of humor in his native tongue). Austinfan comes back to announce he’s leaving. Then it’s just me and GEAGLE, and Stockholm syndrome sets in and I become his biggest fan and- just full on collapse.
for who, for what?
http://giphy.com/gifs/slow-clap-good-job-whisky-ENagATV1Gr9eg
Sometimes things in retrospect seem clear only because we know the outcome.
RE: Tyler Alston, a/k/a D3FB
T-Law:
I’m sorry, but I’m not buying the Kool Aid here.
I don’t know what he wrote you or said to you . . .
But D3FB is Bill Belichick . . . . Not this so-called “Tyler Alston.”
Has to be.
Anyway, that’s my story. And I’m stickin’ to it.
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Fantastic addition to SNB.
D3FB offers the best “inside football” writing anywhere. Period.
Point in favor of your argument? Tyler Alston sounds a lot like Tyler Durden.
Just sayin’.
I like that look for him. Not only is he knowledgeable about football, but he’s also a bad ass…
http://holatranslation.com/images/custom/tyler-durden-profile-photo.jpg
And then you find out he’s just Edward Norton’s fantasy in the end.
If I said my last name was Aston would it help me dissuade you that I’m not an economic terrorist? I reallllllly want to continue to do things like fly, eat solid foods, not be forced to listen to Katy Perry for 48 straight hours.
Why can’t they ever get anybody good for halftime and WTF is the deal with that pepsi halftime commercial. The LAST thing I wanna drink in the middle of a game is that shit lol
I love the fact Lenny Kravitz will be there. I liked Bruno Mars last year, AND he had RHCP.
Chili peppers were good but Katy perry really ugh
I got nothing against kravitz but didn’t realize he was still even around lol
My 6 year-old is going to be pretty excited to see Katy. And my wife will be happy to see Lenny. And, hey, I just can’t wait to see clever/expensive commercials for a bunch of $hit I don’t need.
The NFL and Pepsi are trying to convert 6-year-olds into future consumers, that’s all. They are not interested in current or past buyers. It is all marketing and money after all. Having said that, I would watch ACDC doing ‘Thunderstruck” or the O’Jays doing “Love Train” in a heartbeat. But I’m old and don’t drink soda of any kind. (Or beer!)
My kids don’t drink soda. Other parents always remark on how well behaved they are as they load their children up with processed sugars lol
I was going for the “alter ego” thing moreso than the “economic terrorist” thing, but if it means I get to read more of your insight, it really doesn’t matter!
Nothing wrong with the name Alston.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_cRHw8PAPA
I seen him posting scouting reports here the other day, good stuff. Congrats to him, deserves some recognition for his detail.
Do I think the Broncos will find a superior replacement to Fox? No.
Do I think the Broncos were justified to fire him after losing their 1st playoff game at home? Yes.
Do I think the Broncos are going to have better results next year as a result of firing Fox? No.
Do I think, therefore, that he should be fired since it does nothing but satisfy an egomaniacal need to punish someone? No.
Can you find a better coach than Fox? HELL YES, he cost his team a SB spot in 2012.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-most-clutch-postseason-quarterback-of-all-time-is-eli-manning/
Good piece from Nate Silver on NFL QB performance and expected vs actual results. P. Manning isn’t quite as bad you would think but he has been average/below average.
Seems like the Broncos lost in the playoffs because the guy John Elway signed to play QB, Peyton Manning became a physical she’ll of his former self and couldn’t throw the ball further than 20 yards when his arm died towards the end of the season, not because John Fox can’t coach. Silly, short-sighted view by the Broncos. They tried to buy a championship this year by surrounding an aging QB with as much talent as possible. Buying a championship rarely works, especially when the centerpiece of the whole deal falls off a cliff physically.
Or is injured
Thats why Chip says it takes 2 good QBs to win and we all rolled our eyes at that lol. He was right
Is your sister single?
Enjoy D3FB and AC Viking’s knowledge but Baloophi and A_T_G provide the necessary comedic relief.
Yeah for Scouts Notebook…..enjoy D3FB posts on here about prospects……whatever happened to PsychoGimpy’s Monday Morning QB and the other contributor from a few years back…..they provided awesome content as well…..glad to see someone posting new stuff on that website for you tommy….
One of them is now a writer for a Pitt Panthers blog, so not sure he has time to focus too much on other stuff
I assume that is Psycho Gimpy….he was a pitt fan…..man his Monday morning QB was good stuff……
SEND TOMMY TO THE SENIOR BOWL!
Fellow Igglesblitizens:
Shake out your pockets, dig through the couch cushions, and sell your authentic Bradley Fletcher jerseys to the blind because it’s time to help Tommy make it down to the Senior Bowl. Six days hence he’ll descend upon Mobile to scout draft prospects, spy on Eagles’ personnel, and force some unsuspecting hotel maid to pick up empty Funyun bags like they’re flags in a Dallas playoff game.
This will be his fourth trip to the nation’s premiere all-star event; the kickoff of the draft season for non-draftniks… aka 99% of us (hi, D3FB!). Like other reporters and bloggers, Tommy will patrol the sidelines during the practices and post his observations, but unlike the rest he won’t have the luxury of expensing the trip. That’s where we come in…
CHALLENGE:
If we can generate 36 donations (one for every turnover!), I will donate $100 ($1for every disastrous Josh Huff blunder!). Any donation, large or small, will go a long way toward helping Tommy out. Think of it as buying him a tall can of PBR or a short cup of pudding in exchange for his unique, on-the-ground reporting that we all enjoy so much. Without him we’d be left with the musings of Howard Eskin and whatever Mike Florio’s “sources” manage to dig up. Yikes.
To participate in this year’s Senior Bowl Challenge simply click on the “Donate” button along the right hand banner of the page (underneath the “Blog Roll”), give any amount, and then reply to this comment. No need to post how much you gave, simply that you have. And if you’re unable to donate at this time, please consider an up-vote so we can get eyeballs on this puppy.
Hard to believe that only a year ago we were hoping to find a pass rushing OLB and some DB help. What a difference a year makes! Sigh…
Fly Iggles Fly!
Done. Thanks to T-Law for intelligent Eagles coverage.
A tip of the cap to ya, MAR2691!
I will do this on Friday def. I like this idea.
Outstanding, Avery!
Wow it’s that time already? Years go by so fast.
Faster than our secondary gives up long pass plays…
Nobody will buy my authentic Bradley Fletcher jersey. The scorch marks make it impossible to recognize as a football jersey.
done! money is a little tight right now, so i can’t give as much as i could in the past. glad to give what i can, though!
Cheers, RogerPodacter!
Done, love me this blog.
Nailed it!? You killed it!!!
Or he nailed it.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/yeah-nailed-it1.gif
Done, as much as it hurts to support PBR. Someone needs to get Tommy a case of Yuengling.
Maybe a blind taste test? I know I’d need at least a six pack of each to really control the experiment. Thanks, goeagles55! I’m sure goeagles99 appreciates it!
I say we send him a tub of crushed funyuns/PBR smoothie with megan fox M&M topping.
Thats how Chipper would do it haha
Don’t worry…I think you can earmark your donation for Funyuns only…..don’t think any amount of cash is going to get Megan Fox to do anything for Tommy…..
Not without her husband and children anyway. Maybe a picnic at the park?
I recently discovered my undying love of yuengling. Good stuff
Donated a good amount on top of my monthly donation
Tusind tak!
I got a real job now and still live at my super cheap apartment, so I have the luxury of donating a bit more and monthly as well for this great blog
congrats!
Done. And this year I didn’t actually overspend my budget. The allocation simply fell short of my expenditure.
You’ve made my day!
Thanks for the reminder Baloophi! Donation made. To think it’s only a few months before I will be sitting up at stupid o’clock in the morning nervously watching the draft from across the pond.
I can only imagine your personal fury if the Eagles traded out of the first round. Thanks for the donation, sir!
Kevin bloody Kolb. That was a dark day.
Indeed. The Eagles managed to back up farther that day than Kevin Kolb ever did…
Done. Thanks Tommy
Mahalo!
Done!
Hard to believe it’s nearly a year since we were funding a funyun/PBR fest (wish I could give more but if I ever get a decent job, things will change…….I can hope can’t I?!)
Thanks, PK!
Done, thanks for the reminder and allowing me to get my yearly comment in.
Ha! You are nothing if not efficient! Namaste, Cali.
You can put my name on the list too. Great initiative. Also who the hell is that person who calls himself Anders, lives in Denmark, supports the eagles and recently landed his first job? First he forces me to change my screen name and then to rethink my entire life..
Tak, tillykke, og undskyldninger cirka “Anders.” Også min dansk…
Haha, det er flot! Sig endelig til, hvis du får brug for flere danske ord – så finder vi en ordning. 🙂
Done… Thanks for the reminder B… And for keeping it lighter!
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I tell ya going by just last night I was not overly impressed with the young Hawaiin… he is quick though and tough, but his arm is not as strong as I thought it was. if he came to the eagles we would probably have very little patience for him getting better as a pro, and I think it will take some time.
he faced a decent level defense last night and was shut down a little bit…. pros are even better at defense… he will become pretty decent I think, can he be better then Russell? I dont think so.
I wanted to hear more about the all american family and what goes down behind the scene…. thanks for the bait and switch to football talk LOL
The funny thing is Fox has been successfull without Elway. Sure it looks like Elway has done a good job but Peyton Manning covers up a lot of inefficiency. Im not sold on GM Elway and think he should have given it another year given 18s injury
Remember, they got to the Super Bowl last year with a healthy Manning and it was one of the worst beat-downs in SB history. I think that had a lot to do with this decision.
I know but consider this… the dream team mode is faulty. I think it takes a nucleus of players 3-4 years to jell.
Every team that has knocked them out has won the SB and been together for many years. Patience is usually rewarded more than knee jerking reactionary decisions .
I get it , I just think they forgot about what McDaniels did to that org. Now I hope it happens again
2001 Patriots — with all those mid-tier FAs signed by Belichick before the season — may be the exception that proves the general rule of continuity.
The Pats don’t seem to be a good blueprint to try to copy, for various reasons named Belicheat and Brady.
Must equate spigot into that model as well tho as a caveat or asterisk
That is a fun autocorrect.
Spygate trumps continuity clearly lol
Come now. You KNOW that players who don’t become Pro Bowlers in their first 6 games are losers in Philly. A few years to jell simply isn’t allowed in this town. Maybe that’s why there hasn’t been much winning done? Why, over on another board, there are folks demanding that the Eagles draft a 3rd string quarterback, who flashed one good game! All flash-bang! No staying power.
Im a substance over sizzle kinda guy 😉
Body of work counts and Im one of the only people I know who actually thought Flacco and Big Ben (my favorite college QB ever) would be top 10 pro QBs.
Agree on substance in most areas of life. A touch of sizzle once in awhile to keep life interesting is fine, but not one thing after another. We talk about qualities that the good QBs need and one of them is patience. We should all have some. (I won’t discuss my lack of that quality in heavy traffic!) Flacco is a great example. We hardly ever hear his name yet he endures.
Superbowl on his rookie contact. If we had a SB win i think the fans would have a different mindset, at least I would.
Maggi any good prospects on Mars? We need to find a gem. Im so sick of those champion redskins having the prestigious claim of having the best 3rd string QB lol
As long as Chip doesnt have that mentality its cool with me. We aren’t making these shots for a reason. Im a fan of CK mindset and believe it will translate to rings
Big red and his fast balls , losing THE SAME every time and such predictable play calling. Remember the goaline shuffle pass ATT overtime LOL
Mars may be a reach, however, didn’t someone just put an unmanned orbiter around the moon again? It might not be unwomanned! Ouch, bad. As for CK, I’m a firm believer that while he has made mistakes (Barkley?) he has made a career of picking others’ brains and learning. Why would he stop now, I ask?
Everybody makes mistakes . What matters in regard to that is how u respond to mistakes.
Making the same mistakes again and again becomes more or less a choice . For example: DBs not getting their heads turned around and getting toasted or penalized.
This mindset is what led to my creation.. Negadelphins will perish and then NFCE fans will tell us we suck for only winning 1 Super Bowl haha good times 🙂
He is assembled one of the better defenses (that decided to choke) and cant really fault for him for luring Peyton Manning in and putting a great supporting cast around him. Manning is just done and should retire imo, would hate to see him just go down in a bad way
Not sure who looks worse after the loss. Peyton or the rest of the team / staff. Von Miller 0 sacks. Demarcus Ware 0 sacks. D. Thomas 5 catches only 60 yards.
Secondary started to make a stand at the end but they had nothing on offense. Colts looked WAY better coached — especially with no run game.
Can excuse D Thomas because Peyton was off, but Ware+Miller with 0 sacks against a bad Colts DL?
Makes me wonder if Old guys do really get tired as the year goes on.
reports is out that he has torn both quads, so its more about older guys heal slower and more prone to injuries
Def peyton, i meant Demarcus 0 sacks Ware.
I remember that year the Patriots went undefeated and then lost in the Super Bowl and fired their coach as well as purging the entire staff.
Or those Colts teams that continually choked until they finally got over the hump. Do u think Elway has done a good job? I think Peyton (healthy) gives a team atleast 9 wins
I will be very surprised and eat my words if this ends up being a GOOD thing for the Broncos in the long run.
But what is Fox really doing? Del Rio coached the defense and Peyton is like his own OC, so what do Fox really do?
leadership counts its not like he’s Jason Garret lol
He took a suspect panthers team and made them relevant. Players he drafted are still on that Carolina team. Maybe your right and he wanted more control over the Def.
Im not saying he is the best but who does Elway think is better? Who do u think would have done a better job?
In any field, organizations with creative tension tend to produce the best results – you want smart people who disagree, because they can point out and compensate for each others’ blind spots. One man shows, of the sort the Eagles just constructed by giving Kelly full personnel say, tend to fail because they are susceptible to the faults of the person in charge. The problem is that it’s hard to maintain a tension that’s creative rather than destructive. Egos and desire for control over aspects of organizational success which affect one’s own area of expertise, but are outside of it, inevitably get in the way.
In the Eagles’ case, I think the “Kelly as grand poohbah” structure may be more stable and less tense. But history indicates it is likely to produce inferior results. I would prepare for a marked drop in the quality of the Eagles’ drafts and other player acquisitions.
Im known for disagreeing with my boss more than agreeing but I always point out that it is his show and I will support whatever decsions made 100%, even when I disagree. Working with a bunch of BOBBLE heads is counter productive to ANY organization
Very good points!
There are rare exceptions, but its reserved for the true icons + visionaries.
i dunno. there are plenty of examples of someone’s vision being watered down or nitpicked into obsolescence. see: every movie that got ruined by studio execs or a focus group.
Exactly. This is the reason most movies suck. Imagine an Apple run by committee or a Patriots where Belicheck didn’t have leeway to do what he wanted. If you have a genius, give him the reins. We’ll see, soon enough, if Chip really is a genius.
yep.
Apple has incorporated a bit of open source technology in their design. That kind of is like a committee. But I do agree that most movies suck and Belichick without control wold be a bad thing.
There’s a good argument to be made that Steve Jobs’ dictatorial leadership style and control freakery held Apple back as much as his creativity helped it. There’s a reason Apple is a second-tier company in both computers and smart phones – their closed ecosystem is a major disadvantage in both areas.
You’re absolutely right. Depends on the situation. Sometimes committee works (Open Source like Linux, Google, or hacking software) whereas in other places it doesn’t work (Congress).
The reason most movies suck isn’t an excess of creative input – it’s that artistic quality isn’t the most important measure of success for studio execs, profitability is. And most movies do make money.
I don’t disagree……………………………..and maybe that’s why Lurie hasn’t won any Superbowls. Heh, just joking 🙂
If you looked back at the inception of Apple and Microsoft, they were both run by committee. They had frontmen in Jobs and Gates, but there were others right behind them. Try reading “Accidental Empires”.
Thank you for the referral; I will give it a look-see. Microsoft has never struck me as worthy of imitation with their shoddy products and monopolistic practices. Mac only became interesting to me in its 2nd life.
You live or die by the sword. I think Kelly’s different b/c he’s building a “program” why is why we got him so you’ve got to let him roll. There’s plenty of other guys that are just coaches.
I don’t think it matters how smart Kelly is – evaluating players isn’t what he’s trained to do or what he devotes the majority of his time to, so he’s unlikely to be as good at it as someone who has concentrated on developing that skill. Many people in this situation end up relying on (faulty) heuristics (e.g. Oregon players = good) to make decisions, and we have some evidence that will be the case with Kelly.
Chip spent years evaluating and scouting. University coaches do it all year long. He said it was one of the reasons he came to the Eagles. He didn’t have enough time to do some other things. The weaknesses in the Ducks team compared to the Buckeyes is a lot more due to the fact that OSU has a long history as a football factory, while Oregon had little to entice high school players until recently. They will be able to lure better players now, having been in a championship game on national TV.
the question is are his, is his scouting program the right metrics / programs
The statement I replied to was that he wasn’t trained to evaluate players.
I agree with that you sad (even liked it) my thought was whether his assumptions about what he needs from players to be successful (traits, measurements, etc.) are the right ones — it was more rhetorical.
Howie wasn’t trained either. 🙂 Chip LIVES football and he will be successful I just hope its here in Philly
Think it was just easier for him to take people that he’s already run through the process — especially (as we’ve now heard) he might not have been getting what he wanted from the scouting program.
“One man shows, of the sort the Eagles just constructed by giving Kelly full personnel say, tend to fail because they are susceptible to the faults of the person in charge.”
Please, name some other examples.
Just keeping it to football:
Holmgren in Seattle, Parcells in New England and New York, Jimmy Johnson in Miami, Shanahan in Denver and Washington, Reid in Philly.. All cases where good coaches built a team assumed total control of all aspects of the football operation, then saw the quality of the team decline due to mediocre or poor personnel decisions as a result. There are few examples of guys with total control succeeding – maybe Pete Carroll, but I’m hard pressed to think of another. Conversely the consistently best teams in football (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay, Indianapolis, etc.) have tended to have very strong GMs/scouting departments. Belichick has succeeded in spite of his performance as a talent evaluator, not because of it.
Time will tell if Kelly is the rare football polymath who can buck the trend. But to succeed he will have to buck a trend, which is why I’m not optimistic.
Thank you.
Or the goat WALSH for example. It can be done but its not easy.
A lot of coaches get burnt out on it and want to be with family etc. (look at Reids family) 🙁
Chip RUNS on football and I can’t imagine him getting burnt out at all
Apparently I wasn’t the only one to note the resemblance
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7M4bE8CQAAUiut.jpg
Peter King makes millions for breaking news like this today:
“We need to appreciate Aaron Rodgers and not take him for granted. ”
who is this Rodgers fellow that Peter King is bringing to our attention? Some under-rated QB no doubt.
Aside from the QBs and obviously OSU’s RB did anyone see anyone that the liked last night? Not impressed by others they thought would look good?
Urban Meyer . . . if I’m one of the teams w/ a HC opening
OSU linebacker. Raewon somebody?
Don’t you mean Raekwon from Wu tang clan???
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Raekwon-Ice_Cream.jpg
Chip Rules Everyting Around Me… CREAM!
Yes. My wife and Tommy’s female facebook friend, who is not as wholesome and clean cut as she appears.
I will let you decide which is which.
Love WR Devin Smith for us… Oregon lost in the trenches but Grasu is still a stud, kid been playing thru injury all year. CRazy athleticism that fits right in with our OL Scheme, versatile to start at G and backüp Kelce at Center.
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ARik Armstead continues to umder achieve. Everyone waiting for the switch to go off for that kid, he has all the Talent and ability but his heart is questionable. Converted basketball player, dads a famous pro agent of basketball players, so he has always been around elite athletes…still not close to realizing his talemt, and he doesnt have the character and work ethic of a kid like FOles who you can reasonably expect to put in the work to realize his full potential..Armstead may never be the player he could be… But he has a ton of talent and ability….. although, coaches have wanted to switch him to LT but he refuses..
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I don’t know how Bosa would translate to a 3-4 two gap, but man, I like that kid. tall, Long Arms, I could see him growing into a DE in a 3-4, but he is staying in school.
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If I could have any player from last nights game (reasonably) Id probably go WR Devin Smith, Ohio St. Eziekoel is too young
Wouldnt it be better to compare Armstead to somebody like Fletcher Cox instead of Foles? Consider Cox has crazy talent like Armstead opposed to Foles who is a crap athlete (in football terms, not compared to mortals like us)
I never thought John Fox was a good coach and I’m not surprised he got the axe. I don’t know who’s out there that would put them over the top, especially with 18’s future looming large. If he retires they’re basically back to square one with Brock Osweiler as the go to guy.
He has taken two teams to Super Bowls
Yes, but he has only WON one Super Bowl, in 18 years of being glorified, having much money spent on teammates.
which one did he win again?
2006.
We are talking John Fox, not Peyton Manning
Getting to a SB is hard, think about our 4 squandered opportunities, let alone winning one
Like it or not it does take Luck to make it and win.
Gotta think that 2-3 years behind Peyton Brock has got to be ready or not ready, be interesting to see how that looks, that’s better experience than most QBs get.
One thing is clear CJ Anderson is a beast.
Because the Colts backup QB’s were so good while Peyton was there? Playing behind Peyton is no recipe for success. Thankfully for the Broncos, they aren’t as one dimensional as the Colts were.
Fair point (though peyton was younger then), i mean in terms of learning offense (though guess that doesn’t matter now), progressions, all the mental stuff, mechanics work ethic, etc.
I will reserve judgement until I see how he plays carrying a team but he def has talent
he looks like a tall Painter to me 😉
Fox is not the one who put out the king’s ransom for 1 player.
I’m hearing that Kubiak’s lack of interest in head coaching jobs comment did not apply for a chance to coach Peyton in Denver.
Hmm Spags interviewing with the Giants D vacancy.. Swartz could be an option for Cowgirls D.. NFCE is gonna be one tough Div next season
I don’t even want to hear about it. Other teams running while we’re just standing still.
yea because Spags was so great with the Saints and he do not have Strahan and Tuck in his prime any more.
Not that big of a Swartz fan, he did zero with a great Lions DL and he only made a very good defense better by getting career years of some of his DLs
That’s true though undoubtedly they’re be better than their predecessors (though Marinelli was good and cowboys have deeper issues).
Not saying change for change’s sake but the division has really only had 2 competitive teams in the last 4 -6 years (cowboys and giants/eagles rotation) hate to see what happens when all 4 teams are competitive — is this team as good as we think it is when two teams in the division aren’t under .500.
Really depends on if we start mark Sanchez or not
Dunno man look what Marenelli did with those Cowgirls this year.. Spags back n just focusing on being a D co might bring back results
Look at things like yards per play or DVOA, that Cowboys defense wasnt really good. It was just that the offense was so effective on 3rd downs and they had the slowest offense in the NFL that the defense was never on the field
fed them pepsi at halftime, damn our smoothies
They’re both better than Billy D.
How do you know the Eagles are just standing still? Like the article says, the team prefers to keep everything in-house, not be blatting every little detail all over Twitter. And rightly so.
Still waters run deep grass hopper
Dennis Allen, raiders former coach is interviewing for Giant DC…
Looks like they lining up.. Wouldnt mind Allen as Eagles secondary coach or DB.. Bigger role i guess
I hope we talk as little as possibke about “Bud Dupree” going forward. usually I fall in love with players who aren’t projected high. But by the time the draft comes around, they end up being top picks. For example, 2 years ago, I was a big Dion Jordan/Ziggy Ansah fan back when people talked about them as late 1st round picks, by the time the draft rolled around they were top 10 picks…
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Last year I was raving about Mack and Barr back when they weren’t considered top 20 picks, heck, I was raving about Calvin Pryor when he was mocked as a 3rd rounder lol. By the time draft night arrived, Barr and Mack didn’t make it out of top 10
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I have been high on Bud Dupree for a while.. But this was the first time I didn’t get my hopes up for some kid we eventually had no chance of drafting. Even before he started getting the recognition, I knew this kid would end up going top 15, so I try not to think about hm, stopped paying attention to him like 2 months ago… Trying to not get my heart broken this year, I have already come to terms with the fact. I think we have no shot in hell, to end up finding this kid available when we draft… Trying to get thru this Predraft process, without slobbering all over this pipe dream for the next 3 months, and inevitably get my heart broken when the Falcons of Giants draft him…
Last year my draft crushes was Barr and ODB.
I really would love Dupree (and Peters before his stupid behavior)
I would have sold a leg for us to get ODB last year, sadly it was never meant
I’m ok with late risers because that means another good player will fall. I don’t see us being in the same position as we were last year were our top 6 are gone by the time we pick.
I feel like I always get bit by the late risers… I spend months and months raving about them when no one gives them top 20 recognition, yet by the time the draft comes around they shoot up the board, and have no chance of becoming an Eaglles.. So damn frustrated.
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Need to start falling in love with players that don’t shoot into the top 20, when people wake up and start noticing them…
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I like TY Monthomery, good chance he doesn’t climb into the top 50. I love Ohio St. WR Devin Smith for us… Stylistically, he is the deep threat we lack, all we would be missing is our 6’4 WR of the future. If we add our deep threat, but I have no idea what round Devin is going. Early 2nd? Fall to us in the 3rd?
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Thre are 4 ILB prospects I would LOVE to draft, ATleast 1 has to fall into the beginning of round two, trade back twice, add two 3rd rounders, and take the ILB that falls out of round 1, possibly Kendricks due to height, as if I care how tall an ILB is
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LSU CB Jaylen Collins scares the hell out me. Most mocks seem to think he will be available in round two,and I been raving about him all year, I’m already a nervous wreck knowing that at 6’2 196lbs, kid could end up putting on a show at the combine, and I’ll be sick if he is a top 20 pick.. I NEED Trae Wayans, and some other corners to impress and get drafted ahead of Collins…. 1st CB prospect I really really liked since Desmond Trufant 2 years ago
What you think of CB Quinten Rollins?
Who the basketball player? Great athlete, nice size/speed combo, solid ball skills and playmaking ability for his lack of experience.. You def can’t draft him and count on him being able to start in September, but I hate all rookie Cbs anyway, and I dread playing rookies at THAT position, so I would have no problem taking him on, as long as this brain dead FANBASE understands he won’t be providing much instant gratification so I don’t have to hear everyone senselessly bash the kid and the Eagles for drafting him next year……nice talemt tho..
Yip that guy.. I think lol
http://youtu.be/eCHLLwLY7fs
Yeah it’s him
I worried the video was going to play some guy popping up with runners on base and refusing trades for valuable prospects because he’s “here to break records” rather than helping the team by taking the trade.
For me Rollins is a guy to bet on in the 2nd. Looks like a great athlete with a great body and for a guy who hasnt played since high school, how come he is better tackling technique than even 90% of NFL CBs?
He looked like an athletic Sheldon Brown to me.
I figure, even the. Polished” college corners need so much work before they get to the NFL, what’s the difference if we have to grow a raw corner, or an experienced corner, what good is the experiwnce when it rarely translate into the NFL at that position… Heck chip talks all the time about one of the biggest things college QB’s and WR have to adjust to, are the NFL coverages they don’t ever see in college, so even Experienced college corners are so hit or miss, I wouldn’t pass on a raw talent like him… I like the kid…. Just make sure to make this FANBASE sigń a waiver that states they understand that drafting this kid means he won’t be able to play in September, so I don’t have to hear about how he is a 2nd round bust in October
For me there is a big difference between a 1st and a 2nd in terms of what you expect in year 1. I think Smith had played more snaps if he had stayed at olb and we didn’t have 3 guys in front of him (1st round guys are rarely 4th on the depth chart)
So don’t even want to see 1st round corners on the field as rookies.mdespise rookie corners
Devin Smith will be a mid 2nd if he burns the combine with a great 40.
I like Ty, but I rather have somebody like Coates over him.
Desmond Trufant might be the best CB from that draft and he went in the 2nd.
I do think that Collins will go mid to late 1st if he has a great combine just because of his size and if he also has the athleticism?
Yeah, he is a fast, smooth athlete…real long shot to fall in the 2nd. Unfortunately
Hopefully Marcus Peters can rebound his stock, make people forget about him choking defensive coordinators, and a few other corners have big combines and push Collims down.
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Mid 2nd is def what I’d put my money on right now for Devin…. part of why I like TY, is because he can Probably be had with a 3rd round pick… But I would never even consider TY if Sammie or Devin is still on the board
Well I wanted Watt way back when out of Wisconsin so ha
My mentality is SOME players transcend scheme
Worth noting that our current OLBs coach, Rick Minter, would have been Dupree’s DC for at least his freshman year.
Looks like Rod Marinelli is staying with Dallas. That’s unfortunate. I think that whole going to Tampa thing was planted by his agent to help him get a bigger contract.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Cowboys and DC Rod Marinelli have reached an agreement on a contract for him to stay, source said. Big one for Dallas.
Good, that defense is so damn over rated it’s not even funny.
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They did a good job of protecting that defense and keepimg it off the field as much as possible, basically the opposite of our defense that has to play an obscene amount of snaps every year… If our defense got protected in the time of possession game the way the Dallas defense got, I assume our defense would look much better,..l and I would def bet that if the Cowboys defense had to play with our screwed up hurry up with injured lineman all year, Cowboys defense would have looked horrible
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Dallas front 7 ISNT close to ours, and their secondary ISNT THAT much better, it needs work too, just like every secondary in our division..
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Tho I have to respect what he got out of veteran Mincy, who had the best year of his life, and Crawford played above his ability to this year..I like The Dirrant kid at LB..I assume Dallas Defense is further away than ours, unless you are really ok with guys like church and Scandrick
Scandrick is very good and would be an upgrade to any corner on our roster.
Romo will be a year older next year and I have sources who say he will be going under the knife again this off season 🙂
Are you personally volunteering for the task?
Romo is someone I will appreciate more after he’s gone
Cheap losers in Tampa must not have stepped up. F them, I hope whoever they draft #1 doesn’t play a down in the NFL. F them.
Better him than Jim Schwartz
You think we will ever hear from Howie again? Lol will we ever hear another HOWIE interview? Or will he never be seen again as long as chip is in philly? Lol
You’ll hear from Howie again in the future when Chip is no longer with the team and Howie steps in to run things again. It may take a decade, but he’ll be back.
Yeah, I can def see that happening. HOWIE will just fall back for the chip era, but he will get his power back afterwards…. The financial raise Lurie gave him, and the fact that Lurie values him and will allow him to outlast chip is the only reason he didn’t try and take a Personel job with another team.. I’m just curious if a young guy like Hpwie who was so vocal about this team, doing radio shows every week as a GM, can possibly be silenced and remain hidden for the entire chip kelly era,,.you have to imagine that our media would attack him if they ever saw him again lol..
But he won’t really be silenced, he’ll just be “unnamed source” for a while.
Maybe he has already practiced…er, trained for the position?
Marinelli stays in Dallas. Let’s see if he can field a D with all those free agents.
Ignore. Should have re fresher Disqus.
games are won and lost in the trenches. No matter how you play the game, trenches will always dictate the way the game unfolds. Chip has a great offense, but it’s estremely hit or miss. When the offense struggles, it’s puts so much pressure on the rest of the team. we have to accept that,and just load up on OL. Make sure we are as stacked as possible on the OL and give us the best chance to overcomes njust disaster like this past season, because I don’t know that we will ever be good enough defensively to consistently overcome chips pffense when it’s struggling… Gotta load up on the OL, even if it takes away from addressing some other areas. but if we can get OL play like 2013, our QB and RB are capable of combining for a potent attack. The more we score, the more our defense can pin its ears back and hunt QBs, which in turn helps out the secondary…
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I believe our OL is in so much better shape that what we saw in this mUrphy law season. Teams with the OL injuries we had go on to win 5 games..
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I’m traumatisized of wasting another year to the injury bug. Stock up on the OL, even if our young back ups Probabky have more promise than we realize now, over reacting to impossible circumstances they were flung into this year.. Herremans was talking about how the positive is we came out of this season with a ton of OL depth that should be big for us in the future, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we were high on Tobin, but we need to make a significant addition or two, Barbre coming back should help
I agree, I wouldnt mind a tackle prospect in the first or 2nd or a guard in the 2nd round.
I wouldn’t mind a corner that turns around.
Does it matter if he is coached to not do it? 😛
Must be a stupid coach then.
Tell that to Chip Kelly then
You don’t have to, chips getting new DB coaches already
As a former LB coach and DC myself let me tell you this: the only time when you don’t turn your head as a DB is if your WR has a few yards/steps on you while you’re trying to catch up to prevent larger damage.
As a former GM, you are drafting the wrong DBs if they have to do that. You need to draft DBs that can see the future like Cowboy fans that get Superbowl tattoo.
What team did you manage?
The PuddingBoys pee wee team. A lot of DBs were cut.
Because they were eating too much pudding?!
You guys ever play Frankfurt Universe?
Dude, Frankfurt Universe?! Or did you mean the old Frankfurt Galaxy? If it’s the latter then I didn’t play in the NFL Europe / World League.
I played for the Munich Cowboys in the German League ‘only’. 😉
No I meant the Universe. Two of the guys who were seniors my freshman year played there a few years back.
http://www.dickinsonathletics.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20110621qjcr83
Well maybe that’s the problem? That they know that the cbs ate too slow to turn around any way?
Well, one DB coach has already been fired.
We easily could end up not needing any OL we draft this year, but two of the last 3 years we wsted entire seasons on OL injuries that realistically can’t be overcome, so even if it turns out not to be an immediate need, and our Older starters stay healthy, and play at a high level for another two years, it’s really not worth the risk of losing another season, getting our QB killed because we didn’t have enough depth…I’m traumatisized into wanting to take the depth to the extreme when it comes to our OL…
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It’s EVERYTHING!!!!
Consider we are a run based spread team, OL is super important because its the bread and butter of this offense.
And this offense puts so much pressure on our Defemse that it’s too important. Fortunately guys are up their in age so we would have to invest in it anyway in the next few years, might as well get a head start
Yeah man im thinking the same with getting quality OL depth.. Or even starter upgrades
Cowboys keep Jason Garrett for 5 years!!! (yes!) but they also signed Marinelli (booo).
I hope their roster is just decimated by free agency.
Or that they don’t decimate it by free agency by overpaying for all of their own guys to the point where it bottoms out again in a few years.
Talking about Dallas…. I love the Doug Free contract: http://overthecap.com/player/doug-free/2419/
He is a free agent counting 4mil against their cap, so not only do they need to either resign him or another RT, but they are bent over a barrel to keep him to get some cap relief on that contract.
I have to laugh at people saying Dallas is going to be a big long term enemy for the Eagles, they are going to be hamstrung by Cap and an even less talented defence next year and need some real magic to retain their core talent on non joke contracts.
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys
There is almost no one you can realistically cut on that list for significant cap savings, so every signing will need to be all back loaded to ensure their cap hell continues in endlessly.
Unless the Giants get a few capable O line ,D line, and quality DBs we will have little competition in our division next year.
Just saw Garret got a 5 year 30 million contract I guess 1-1 in post season is a great job after being there 5 years lol
Nice write up btw
Dallas is what they always are- PAPER champs lol
I laugh at how horrible Free is in pass protection, but how the media only mentions what a good run blocker he is. I hope Free remains at RT for years so Barwin can abuse him
When do we start to see players cut, and find out exacty who we allow to reach free agency? I assume Maclin and possibly Casey Mathews are extended before free agency…worst case scenario Maclin is a 10mil per year WR… Not the end of the world, cap goes up 10 mil, just continue to operate at the current cap and pretend we got Maclin for free… Tho I doubt it will actually be 10… 5 for 45$ is more likely… So basically we can extend Maclin and Casey with the 10mil extra added to the cap.
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Curious to see who we decide to waive…and I’m itching to find out if Devin McCourty will be a free agent or not, or if the Eagles will have to settle on a safety like Rahim Moore..annoyed with how we,l chung played. I new that asshole was warrioring thru that shoulder injury all year. Makes sense that we never saw him play with the confidemce we are seeing him play with for NE.. Weird that our coaches know he was injured yet didn’t feel he warranted a year to show he could do better… I wouldn’t have minded seeing chung get a look next to Jenkins instead of just accepting mediocre Nate all year
This is how i think the Eagles may go about their business this offseason:
Casey = Cut = saving 4 million
Todd (sadly) = Cut = saving 2.8million
Cary = Cut = saving 6.5 million
Shady = Restructure = saving 3 million this year but guaranteeing next year.
Meco = restructured = saving 3 million
Trent/Graham = one of them retained at 6mil cap hit = saving 5.5 million (Trent comes back at ~4.5mil plus pro rated signing bonus hang over, Graham back on new deal with ~6mil hit.)
Total savings = 24.8 million giving total cap space of ~45million.
Expected Signings:
Kendricks = 10mil signing bonus, 4 new years at 6mil, keeps this years base salary. 3 mil cap hit this year.
Maclin = Transition Tagged at 11mil. (cap figure will come down if you can extend him longer term.
Expected cost of 16 million, but could be 3-4 million less with Maclin long term deal = remaining Cap space of 31 million
Possible large cap signings:
Cox – With 2 years remaining on rookie deal there is no pressing need to extend for Eagles, Cox may push for it saving eagles $ in the future. Likely cost would be similar to Kendricks in this years Cap ~4mil
Thornton – RFA, unsure where the eagles are (several young DE’s on roster) and where the current market value for run stuffing 3-4 DE’s lie. CAP figure would be ~4mil this year to bring back long term probably.
Casey Matthews – FA – Come back on a 8mil 3 year deal to give ILB depth, with a 2014 cap hit of 2.5mil. I would let him walk but.
Depending on these possible spends eagles will have anything from 31-25million in cap to sign:
Good quality starting CB
back up CB
Safety
OGx1 – either starter or depth
Back up QB (maybe mark sanchez)
Special Teamer.
You probably want to retain around ~10mil in cap to take into next year for extensions. giving eagles around 20mil to spend in FA, which should be doable if you don’t get 2x top free agent secondary players.
Casey – is that the TE or the ILB? I don’t think Cary’s cut, that’s a whole new secondary seems a stretch.
James Casey, who is due 4mil which seems a little rich for a special teamer.
I thought the same initially regarding Cary, but 8.5mil is a LOT for him and there seems no interest in restructuring on his part. Think you can get better for cheaper, but if the Eagles value continuity they could keep him for the year.
Honestly I think you’re better off cutting Cary and using his money on a solid corner ti pair with Carroll
Him being gone would make me happy. I don’t care if that means sean F’n considine takes his place, get this scrub off the roster
That’s too far. Considine is putrid.
My point. It cannot get much worse. Not only do I watch eagles , I watch any and every game I can. Cary,Late allen,Fletcher need to go. I pray for it every night lol
If a coaching staff that went 12-4 got scrapped why can’t the worst secondary in the nfl?
Doubt Casey gets cut… Top ST player. Known as hands a down the hardest working eagle in Novacare. Cutting him would send a terribke mestage. That’s a GM money guy move.. chip is in control now. He built this locker room, he won’t piss on it, which is what he would be doing by cutting the highest working eagle sacraficing a ton of individual glory to be here.
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Doubt we cut Cary either. I expect him to start 1 more year opposite Nolan, while we groom a room to take over the following year on the bench..
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I wouldn’t dick around with the Tag for maclin. We will want him here Longterm, work it out now.,,
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Cut and re-sign at lower rate or just renegotiate his salary lower. Good STs player, so worth more than he’s contributing at TE but not $4M. Chris Maragos type money is fair. Around $1.5M.
yeah hope he enjoyed it while he got it.
Cutting players, without getting anything for them? A terrible sin in Philly.
I want Maclin dome soon, honestly if he gets to FA some team like the Raiders will give him 12mil so if 10mil keeps him from hitting the market so be it. I’d just copy and paste Jordys contact. Maybe deal with Thornton early, cut one of Demeco, Cole and restructure the other and hopefully cut Casey and Cary
Why only for $9 mill a year? What do you think his guaranteed money will look like?
I know the question want asked for me but my guess is Eagles have been trying to get Mac for 8-9mil a year while Maclin wanted 10-11, probably getting closer on a compromise with him getting a deal near 10 I think something like 5 years 49.5mil with 22.5 guaranteed
Just to let you know, I wasn’t doubting anyone’s numbers. I don’t even know how people come up with them. But the 24/7 blog thinks he might get a little over $10 mill, but could be pushed higher if Reid tries to reunite since they are looking for receivers. I”m just curious how other people arrive at these conclusions.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/01/12/looking-maclins-value/
Maclin definitely wants to be here that helps, I’m not worried about Reid, they have very little money at all and have to deal with Houston it’s a team like Oakland that worries me, he could get a little more than 10 but in that article someone said between Jennings and Bowe
That’s about what DJax was making right?
Yeah we have him 5/48.5 with 15 guaranteed
Maclin is worth the contract Djax got from us. There may still be some injury concerns. How many ACL tears has he had 2 or 3?
2 I think
We have DJAX 5 years 48.5mil with 15 guaranteed I’d give that to Mac
I would do this all day and twice on sunday. He made some crazy sideline catches.
Not crazy Dez non catches but still 🙂
Yeah sure we’d ask live him at 8-9 mil but with the rising cap no way he wasn’t getting a substantial. If he his free agency he’d looking at aDwayne Bowe deal I’d rather lock him up now
worst part was the 2m saved by cutting chung was spent on nate allen. that’s a low blow.
After the Super Bowl, you’ll start seeing guys signed to extensions. There will be some cuts but they’re not usually until closer to free agency beginning.
Rahim Moore and Ron Parker are potential safety replacements
Armstead declared
Cowboys offered Murray 4 years 16 mil and Murray pretty much told them to get that trash out of his face
lets go sign him for 4 years and $18 mil!
haha pretty much tells you Cowgirls are screwed with you they can keep n not
They only offered him $4 mill a year? Or is that $16 mill a year for 4 years? If it’s only $4 mill, that is an insult.
16mil total lol
Depends on the structure. If they front load all of it, it could only be a 4 year deal in name only for salary cap reasons, which he’ll restructure if he’s still playing well or get cut if he’s not.
Both him and Dez saying the same things.
Yeah Like that insulting 10 year 114 mil contact that was offered to Dez
11.4m a year for dez bryant? Only like 30% guarantees.
He could make that over 7 years on the open market
easy. Though looks like Fitz might make it to trade bait / FA.
Don’t think that changes much, Fitz is old and only had 800 yards wouldn’t give him more than like 3/20
Should sign Fitz, better run blocker than coop lol
Unfortunately u can’t cut Coop he is what he is but if you could find a dumb team to trade a late pick for Coop you could actually save 2mil
Im not saying cut coop. But he needs to be the bottom rung on WR depth chart next year. Fitz could fix some redone issues and prob won’t drop passes that hit his hands
If maclin is 10 then I’d rather give Dez 11.4.
He’s going to get franchised.
Yep and they can’t structure a franchise tag in any special way which means 12.4mil will go on the cap
I’m excited to see what they do this offseason.
And how sweet it will be watching him implode even more next year
Lately Dez seems to be insulted about everything!
JJ’s about half way there. has 4 yrs and 16m parts, it’ll just be 4yrs 28-30m w/ 16m guaranteed. cap is so banged up, 23 free agents is wildest part. they will be less than puddle thin next year. plus a Romo restructure that will make himqb thru ’18.
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Dez s getting paid too.
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in crazy way, the best thing for us might have been this 13-5 season. ‘allas never fails to entertain in offseason
Yeah I mean Dez or Murray’s gone, defense will get even worse and they’ll have zero depth
id never pay a running back that kind of money, especially if i needed to lock up my marquee WR
eagles will end up re-do’g Shady for that. something in the 2-3 yr range, 7-8m, enough guarantee’d money that he’s on team for 2 yrs due to dead money.
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Murray deserves to be expecting top 3 money, that’s 7-8m. not crazy money for a RB coming off his season. offering 4m is a joke. that’s getting credit for making an offer, but one you know he wont accept. not even a ‘begin low and negotiate up’ offer.
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Matt Forte signed 4yr 30m 14m g’d in ’13. think DM has to be looking north of that.
“Seahawks front office exec Scott Fitterer, identified over the
weekend as a candidate for the Eagles’ front office vacancy, has not
been contacted by the Eagles, two league sources said.
They’re not allowed to until after Seattle’s season is over.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chip in Los Angeles to scout our QB of the future, Brandon Bridge, at the NFLPA Bowl!
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/1/13/7540067/chip-kelly-nflpa-bowl-practice-eagles-brandon-bridge
He was kinda in the area already but u might be onto something
Careful u don’t get poached next!
He was in Dallas for the Oregon-OSU game, I wouldn’t call LA “in the area”.
Closer than Philly is what I meant. Being at that game took off 1000-1500 miles right?
The thing to take away from this is CK has no time off at all ever, I don’t even think he sleeps lol
I wonder who the guy sitting next to him is? Maybe he’s conducting a “GM” interview at the same time. Someone suggested Sheldon White but the guy pictured doesn’t look anything like White IMO.
Larry fishburn? I think Chip would talk football with anybody
Not much to celebrate after you get thwollopped. Dallas to LA is 3hrs.
3 hours is still a hop(7hours from Eastcoast) and I’m sure he was looking at the film from last night.
That trip was pure business on Monday. I’m sure CK wanted Oregon to win but that was a scouting trip for the OSU prospects up and close
He also interviewed Texans’ director of pro personnel on Sunday while there.
All about efficiency, Shady may be in the dog house more than we thought with all those negative runs…
http://balls.ie/main-story/conor-mcgregor-broke-records-sports-science-documentary-last-night/
Sports science. We should try him out at DB lol he does have a nasty streak and loves to hit
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Jets are hiring Todd Bowles as their HC, per source.
I think Bowles is certainly worthy of a HC spot, but ATL makes a lot more sense for him IMO. Strange pairings so far with two teams already pretty good on defense but that have struggling offenses and unproven QBs going with defensive HCs. Maybe the thought is if you don’t have a QB, go the defense/running game route.
That might make you a 9-7 team but it rarely means being a Super Bowl quality team.
Worked for the Ravens.
Rarely, not never. I assume you mean in 2000, not two years ago. Flacco isn’t elite, but he’s pretty good.
Yes. Recently, yeah it doesn’t work as much. But the Bears and Bucs come to mind too. It really takes an elite defense to do that. But IMO, you need both if you want to go deep in the playoffs anyway. It’s just that some teams were elite at both.
And yeah, Flacco is pretty good. I watched him a few times at UofD and thought it was cool when he was drafted.
But you’re implying that by having a defensive head coach you can’t have a good offense
That wasn’t my intention. I don’t see why having a great run game means you don’t have a good offense.
Well have to consider money… That takes 1 guy off my list of guaranteed coach fillers. 5 more openings and the guys I think will get them are Fox, Quinn, Maronne and 2 others
I don’t think Marrone will. Too big of an ego.
You think any of the SD coaches would get a look?
Frank Reich got a few interviews but the teams that were reported to be interested were the 2 teams that already hired head coaches.
Do you know him personally?
Yeah I agree with that. If I was a gym it’d be Offensive HC if i was on a team w/ a great defense and vice versa. Need that yin yang
T-Law article with a bonus D3FB link? Doesn’t get much better.
Shame that such a promising coach like Todd Bowles needed to accept a coaching job working for a known dysfunctional owner. I would rather remain a defensive coordinator for 5 more years than to waste my shot at a head coaching job, signing on to work for some retarded owner like Woody…. Hate that Bowles took the jets job
Well easy to say but $$$ is a factor
Gotta strike when the iron’s hot.