Day 2 Discussion Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2011 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 361 Comments »

Eagles have a pick in the 2nd and 3rd.

There aren’t any guys I’m dead set on.  I hope we lean defense, but if the plan is to add veteran defenders in free agency and/or trades…you can just play the board and take the best players.  It would be interesting to see if Andy goes for a guy like RB Taiwan Jones in the 2nd.  Or do we go conventional and get a defender.

My preference is to get a CB or S Marcus Gilchrist.  I wojuldn’t complain if we moved up for CB Ras-I Dowling either.  We’ll see what happens.  Should be a fun day.

361 Comments on “Day 2 Discussion Thread”

  1. 1 Philanova said at 6:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I *think* the second round will focus on defense. CB (Williams, Dowling, Harris?) or LB (Bruce Carter?) would be great, IMO.

  2. 2 mcare89 said at 6:05 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Yeah, this is a weird day 2, there’s nobody here that I’m in love with at all.

  3. 3 Thunderlips said at 6:07 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Schefter says NE and PHI talking about a deal…

  4. 4 Eric said at 6:10 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Dowling is gone. 🙁

  5. 5 Philanova said at 6:11 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hate those Pats.

  6. 6 Kammich said at 6:12 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    man, really really wanted Dowling to fall within range for us. damn.

  7. 7 Philanova said at 6:13 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I wonder if the Eagles were actually looking to move up for Dowling? Maybe it’s Williams and they’ll keep working with these teams for an early pick today.

  8. 8 MannaFromKevin said at 6:13 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Patriots are so frustrating.

  9. 9 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:15 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Pats spend a ton of picks at DB and get mediocre results.

  10. 10 Hellavoxx said at 6:15 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Seems to me this would make us a major player in the Nnamdi sweepstakes. If they get him, and they get Ayers and the RB Jones in the draft, this offseason is a success in my book.

  11. 11 The Reddgie said at 6:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I am rooting for Bruce Carter. He has the prerequisite knee injury, he is an athletic beast, he is a mean tackler.

    Plus, I like the possible LB firm of Chaney, Bradley and Carter. Nice ring to it.

  12. 12 Philanova said at 6:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Run on CBs…

  13. 13 Eric said at 6:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Eagles will be out of play for any starting quality corners. Harris will go pretty quickly too.

  14. 14 Kammich said at 6:17 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I guess we’re gonna see a run on Corners. bad news for the Birds.

    guess we’re gonna need to get ready to back up the Brinks truck to Asomugha’s house.

  15. 15 Philanova said at 6:17 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hey Tommy – Is Rahim Moore strictly an FS, or would he offer anything as an SS?

  16. 16 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I approve of Andy Dalton’s girlfriend.

  17. 17 Philanova said at 6:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    God, Dalton’s gf is STACKED.

  18. 18 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RE: Rahim Moore

    Pure FS in my mind. Sloppy tackler. Not physical.

    Get Marcus Gilchrist for SS.

  19. 19 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:21 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RE: drafting a CB

    I’d love to get a CB in the 2nd or 3rd as a player for the future. I still want a veteran CB acquired.

  20. 20 Eric said at 6:21 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Haha. Always love the eye candy.

  21. 21 Philanova said at 6:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    One less team in the Kolb Sweepstakes.

  22. 22 MannaFromKevin said at 6:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Take the 49ers out of the Kolb sweepstakes.

    Ugh. By the time this draft is over I wonder if there will be enough competition for Kolb to even get a 1st for him.

  23. 23 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    What is up with SF letting a couple of young hot chicks in their war room? That’s fantasy material for me.

    Interesting pick of Kaepernick to SF. Harbaugh was great with Josh Johnson at San Diego, another athletic runner/passer.

  24. 24 LeicesterEagles73 said at 6:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    What are the chances of Harris making it to the Eagles? or do we think he is worth moving up for?

    Eye candy in the 49ers war room as well!

  25. 25 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:27 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I never bought SF as Kolb target. Jim wants Alex Smith to stick around for now. He wants to develop his own QB for the future.

  26. 26 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:28 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RE: Brandon Harris?

    I would not pay a steep price to move up for him. I’m still not convinced he’s an ideal starting CB for us.

  27. 27 Adam S. said at 6:29 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    So when is somebody going to make a video montage of all the draft eye candy? I missed AJ Green’s GF yesterday and the SF war room just now.

  28. 28 MannaFromKevin said at 6:30 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Tommy:

    RE: cornerbacks

    Anyone left that you think could be a starting CB for us? Or any favorites still out there?

  29. 29 Eric said at 6:31 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Adam,

    Probably the brief eye candy enjoyment for me the last 2 days has been Dalton’s gf.

    It was like my eyes were being sucked into a black hole.

  30. 30 MannaFromKevin said at 6:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Adam S:

    Haha I was scouring the Internet today for a pic of AJ Green’s girlfriend at the draft. I missed her too and I want to see her “painted on dress” that goes “all the way down to her hips”.

  31. 31 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Glad to see ARZ go with RB. Trade partner.

  32. 32 Eric said at 6:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Wow, Cardinals already admitting Beanie was a big mistake.

  33. 33 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Beanie and Ryan Williams could be a really good combo. Think of CAR with Stewart and Williams.

  34. 34 Kammich said at 6:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Ryan Williams was the top-ranked offensive prospect left on my board. Not sure how much of a NEED it addresses for Arizona, but I like the pick based on value alone. He has the potential to be an elite runner.

  35. 35 John C said at 6:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Still not a good start here for us. Let’s hope the Birds figure out how to get some impact players on defense. Starting to not like this draft too much.

  36. 36 Adam S. said at 6:38 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    LOL my problem is I’m watching on my laptop so I have to switch back and forth between tabs so i miss a lot of the GF’s….I did see Dalton’s though. I actually noticed her yesterday when they showed a quick clip of him at home. Made sure I was around when his name was called again.

    Is there away to login to this site Tommy? kinda annoying to have to fill in the stuff for each reply

  37. 37 Philanova said at 6:39 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mort saying Ayers to Tennessee here.

  38. 38 Philanova said at 6:40 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    THE FREAK.

  39. 39 MannaFromKevin said at 6:40 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Okay I had DVR’d the NFLN version of the first round. I checked AJ Green’s selection. Am I missing something? Sure his girlfriend is hot but she’s very conservatively dressed. I read that her dress was so tight it was “painted on” and that it stopped at her hips. Looked more like a classy, conservative skirt suit, complete with jacket.

  40. 40 Philanova said at 6:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Shit. Bruce Carter to the ‘Boys.

  41. 41 ian no 2 said at 6:44 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    AZ not picking a QB 1st or 2nd may have a Kolb angle

  42. 42 Eric said at 6:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Green’s gf didn’t do it for me. She had a nice body, but I don’t find darker women very attractive. I know that sounds racist, but I just don’t like their features.

  43. 43 TEW! said at 6:46 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Damn I wanted Carter…

  44. 44 Philanova said at 6:46 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mallet to the ‘Skins here?

  45. 45 mcud said at 6:46 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Kerrigan to the Redskins. Prince to the Giants. Carter to the Cowboys. Aaron Williams gone. Dowling gone.

    I hate my life.

  46. 46 Adam S. said at 6:47 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Eric….not racist, just preference.

    Shit….damn cowboys actually drafting good, this is bullshit lol

  47. 47 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:47 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Guys, I’ll look into the comments thing. Sorry about that issue. I don’t know an immediate solution.

  48. 48 mcud said at 6:47 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Dexter Manley wasn’t available?

  49. 49 John Scott said at 6:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Help me out here. Didn’t the Eagles get Washington’s 2nd and 4th round picks for this year’s draft? Why aren’t the Eagles picking at #40? What am I missing here?

  50. 50 Philanova said at 6:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    What if Bowers falls within reach? Worth a small trade-up in the second?

  51. 51 Sjampen said at 6:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Tommy, do you think that Janoris Jenkins going to the supp. draft if that will happen is the reason why the birds doesnt seem to take an impact CB or do they just not like the prospects this year?

  52. 52 MannaFromKevin said at 6:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @John Scott

    I got mixed up too. We got their 2nd and 4th last year (Nate Allen in the 2nd). This year just their 4th.

  53. 53 Thunderlips said at 6:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Has the lockout helped any team more than the Skins? That 2nd round pick would have been burning a hole in their pocket.

  54. 54 Philanova said at 6:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @John Scott – We got their 2nd last year and a conditional pick this year, either their 3rd or 4th round pick.

  55. 55 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Eagles have WAS’s 4th rounder. We had their 2nd last year.

  56. 56 nicolajNN said at 6:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Non-draft. Temporary stay granted and lockout back on

  57. 57 -Triumph- said at 6:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Eagles will go O-line again in the 2nd, possibly Wisniewski, and it will be Tatergeddon

  58. 58 Matt said at 6:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    2 rd was last year

  59. 59 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I don’t think Janoris Jenkins being in the Supp Draft affects our plans. We’ll go for vet CB. Might still add CB in the next couple of rounds.

  60. 60 Adam S. said at 6:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Tommy….I think there must be a way because the one guy up at the top has that logo (Temple??) next to his name. either way not a huge deal, just more convenient.

  61. 61 Kevin said at 6:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Who are Eagles targets at this point?

  62. 62 ATG said at 6:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    “Who are Eagles targets at this point?”

    Andrew Luck?

  63. 63 John Scott said at 6:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Thanks, yes, time just has been flying by so quickly… wow, I just lost a year! hahahaha

  64. 64 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Eagles could add Wiz and it would make some sense. Watkins is the RG of the future. Wiz would be C of the future.

    I’d prefer to go elsewhere, but that wouldn’t be a terrible move.

  65. 65 netherman said at 6:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I love tatergeddon…wait, are they the one with the one armed drummer?

  66. 66 MannaFromKevin said at 6:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Adam S — maybe we should be asking “mcare89”

  67. 67 mcud said at 6:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Philanova

    I wouldnt touch Bowers until round 4, at the earliest. He’s Cornelius Ingram Redux. If you want a 1st round talent that has fallen, take Greg Romeus. At least he’s a year removed from his injury.

  68. 68 Kevin said at 6:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    My Targets

    – Bowers (if medical)
    – Martez Wilson
    – Mikel LeShore
    – Davon House

    All things being equal, I want Wilson or House

  69. 69 mcud said at 6:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    That said, I wouldnt take Romeus until round 4 either.

  70. 70 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Eagles targets?

    DT Stephen Paea
    LB Martez Wilson
    CB Brandon Harris
    S Marcus Gilchrist
    RB Taiwan Jones

  71. 71 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ netherman…

    You’re on report for that comment. Make one “Pour Some Sugar On Me” joke and you’re on double secret probation.

  72. 72 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:01 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Titus Young to DET. Good.

  73. 73 Adam S. said at 7:02 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Manna I’m with you, if he would just show his face around here again lol but there is also -Triumph- more recently.

    -Triumph- how’d you get the logo? were you able to login eerrrr what?

  74. 74 Kammich said at 7:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Nice pick for Detroit. Stretch the field with some DeSean-esque potential.

    It was exact value on my board, too. #44 player overall at the #44 pick.

  75. 75 ATG said at 7:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I don’t know, Tommy, I think a pouring sugar-related comment would bring on hysteria.

  76. 76 mcud said at 7:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Ahh Barry.

    Best I ever saw.

  77. 77 Kevin said at 7:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I don’t undertsand what Mayhew/Schwartz are doing in Detroit. I get Fairly. BPA. Was WR really the #1 need in Detroit?

  78. 78 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:05 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m happy to see Marvin Austin slide, but he better not be our pick.

  79. 79 TEW! said at 7:05 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Man, I really like what the Lions are doing. If they can get some OL talent this team is going to be dangerous for a loooong time.

  80. 80 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:05 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ ATG…

    Now you’re on the list. My eyes are on you mister.

  81. 81 Philanova said at 7:06 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Anybody got a return specialist in mind? Seeing the highlight of Titus Young returning the kick made me think that we could use a player (CB? WR? RB?) who could take on the KR duties. I don’t think Desean’s PR talents should go unused, but perhaps a KR/PR could give him a brief respite.

  82. 82 Adam S. said at 7:06 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    LOVE the reception for Barry! by far my favorite non-eagle player ever. I actually clapped myself….at work….in the middle of a mall….got some strange looks

  83. 83 Eric said at 7:07 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Paea here for the Broncos? I think it has to be one of the next two for them.

  84. 84 Adam S. said at 7:09 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Is CB Van Dyke a RS?? Also what range should that guy become an option for any team? I don’t know much about him other than being fast.

  85. 85 mcud said at 7:10 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’d like to throw a late rounder at San Fran for Ted Ginn. I’d like to have a dedicated KR/PR, and not lose much from DeSean.

  86. 86 Kammich said at 7:11 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Shaky Smithson is a good return specialist out of Utah. Wouldn’t mind expelling a later-round choice on him.

    Mostly because his name is Shaky fucking Smithson.

  87. 87 ATG said at 7:13 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Kammich

    Shaky has the same middle name as Jerry Jones and Eli Manning, weird.

  88. 88 TEW! said at 7:13 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I like Taiwan Jones as a return man and backup RB for us.

  89. 89 MannaFromKevin said at 7:13 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Did I just see John Lynch chillin down there with Rahim Moore? Gave him a hug before heading to the stage.

  90. 90 Eric said at 7:14 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I think Lynch is there because he’s announcing the Bucs 2nd round pick.

  91. 91 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:15 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RS? Jorrick Calvin

    (laughter dies down)

    Jeremy Kerley
    Cecil Shorts
    Shaky F’ing Smithson

  92. 92 MannaFromKevin said at 7:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Guys on NFLN giving Dawkins mad respect.

  93. 93 Grimlock said at 7:18 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hey Tommy, what are the chances the Eagles trade up for Brandon Harris, and who might trade with them? I am sweating over here.

  94. 94 Alohadelphia said at 7:18 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    How can the “Ultimate Fan” be a Broncos fan from Brooklyn? Fraud chant would have been nice there.

  95. 95 Kammich said at 7:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Don’t care for the value of the Franklin pick, there. Had him graded in the mid-late 3rd. #85 player on my board.

    And seeing as Denver was once seriously looking at Bowers at #2 overall, and just passed on him with consecutive picks in the 2nd… is it fair to say that we’re going to see him drop into the 4th, 5th?

  96. 96 mcud said at 7:20 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m an Eagles fan in the Dallas Metroplex. Sometimes life just takes you places…

  97. 97 ATG said at 7:20 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    If the ‘Skins and Giants take corners before we pick we will have confirmation that this entire off season has been arranged just to screw with us.

  98. 98 Eric said at 7:22 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Wow, a big reach on a TE.

  99. 99 netherman said at 7:24 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    aww no tatergeddon 🙁

  100. 100 Grimlock said at 7:24 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Who is the fastest player on the board? That’s who is next.

  101. 101 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:24 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Bad pick by Spags.

    Wiz to STL.

    2nd round breaking well for PHI.

  102. 102 mcud said at 7:25 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Wonder if Uncle Steve told Al to pick him.

  103. 103 Dewey said at 7:25 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Tommy, as per the dude on Twitter. It’s not Spags, it’s Josh McDaniels.

  104. 104 Grimlock said at 7:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Stefen Wisniewski runs a 4.21 40.

  105. 105 -Triumph- said at 7:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    heh… so much for my guess

  106. 106 ian no 2 said at 7:28 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I don’t know that Wisniewski is better than McGlynn, so I’m ok with the Iggles not getting him

  107. 107 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:28 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Who gave Mike Shanahan permission to acquire more draft picks for Washington? I kinda liked the days when they never had any.

  108. 108 mcud said at 7:29 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    To piggyback on something another poster wrote this morning (Kolb to Arizona. Drafting Peterson allows AZ to trade DRC), could we get them into a bidding war with Buffalo (Kolb to the Bills, drafting Aaron Williams, allowing them to trade Byrd or McKelvin)?

  109. 109 Danyo said at 7:29 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Anyone else thinking OAK might be a trade partner for Kolb? They need a QB badly and they love giving up their picks….

  110. 110 nicolajNN said at 7:30 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Redskins traded back with Colts, so they are getting more picks?!? Did something happen to Allen?

    Heads-up, Spads will have Mudd in the studio later today

  111. 111 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:30 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Reports that Raiders are offering a #1 in 2012 for a 2nd now. Would Howie be interested?

  112. 112 mcud said at 7:31 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Rhino,

    God I hope so. I’d wash the gasoline off of me.

  113. 113 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Other than Tyron Smith, I think Ijalana had the most upside in this draft

  114. 114 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Thanks for the heads up, nicolajNN

  115. 115 Eric said at 7:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The best way to get Manning to sign a good deal is to show him that you mean business with two good tackles.

  116. 116 Grimlock said at 7:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I still think he is going to Zona.

  117. 117 Dewey said at 7:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m thinking trade down. With Harris being small, and Marsh and Burton falling, they can get picks and still get a good RCB. That’s presuming Johnathan Joseph isn’t already in the bag.

  118. 118 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:33 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mcud,

    You suck. I just spit my iced tea all over myself laughing at your last comment. Now I have to get up to get a paper towel.

  119. 119 Dewey said at 7:33 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    2nd (or 3rd if you count Williams) CB gone with Gilchrist.

  120. 120 Philanova said at 7:33 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Ben Ijalana to the Colts has him going to a team where I won’t feel dirty rooting for him to succeed.

    First second round pick out of Villanova since Howie Long.

  121. 121 Grimlock said at 7:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Natrain!

  122. 122 Dr. Ogrodnick said at 7:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Natrone Means business.

  123. 123 Eric said at 7:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    He’s outta hereeee!

  124. 124 mcud said at 7:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Goddell never heard of Natrone Means Business? For shame…

  125. 125 -Triumph- said at 7:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Well if it’s Tatergeddon we’re after they could always draft Pinkston… just his name alone, plus the fact that it’s another O-lineman, would do it

  126. 126 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    At least I can cheer for Gilchrist. SD is a good landing spot.

  127. 127 Kevin said at 7:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Gilchrist to SD 🙁

    If Howie doesn’t take Oakland’s #1 next year for a #2 this year I will be VERY upset.

  128. 128 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:36 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Is there anybody to be excited about here? There are a number of players that I am interested in, but nobody that screams outstanding pick.

  129. 129 Grimlock said at 7:37 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hoping that the skins trade back again.

  130. 130 mcud said at 7:37 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Who is going to announce our 2nd rounder? I nominate Antone Davis…

  131. 131 Eric said at 7:37 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    is Paea BPA right now?

  132. 132 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:38 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jon Harris

  133. 133 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:38 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Getting the Raiders 1 for next year would be ideal.

    If not, I really like Stephen Paea.

    Martez Wilson still fascinates me. And there are a couple of interesting CBs.

  134. 134 ATG said at 7:38 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Troy Vincent

  135. 135 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:39 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I like some of the players, but I would like a #1 next year even more. I don’t think the Raiders are better than .500 in 2011.

  136. 136 Thunderlips said at 7:40 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Reid is all in. I don’t think he can afford to trade for picks next year.

  137. 137 mcud said at 7:40 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Vincent would be hilarious, as we didn’t draft him. I would have thought it was limited to players you drafted, not guys anybody drafted.

  138. 138 MannaFromKevin said at 7:40 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ -TRIUMPH-

    How’d you get an avatar pic? Is there a way to sign in so I don’t have to retype my username/email every time I want to post?

  139. 139 Grimlock said at 7:41 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    It is Vincent, and half these guys were drafted by other teams.

  140. 140 ATG said at 7:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Maybe Vincent and Goodall can work out a quick CBA backstage.

  141. 141 mcud said at 7:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Guess I hadn’t noticed.

  142. 142 Chris said at 7:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    It’s Vincent… here’s a list of all the players who will announce.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/21/retired-players-will-announce-second-round-draft-picks/

  143. 143 Eric said at 7:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Bucs line is set for the next 5 years unless all 4 don’t pan out.

    2 1st round DE/DTs and 2 2nd round DE/DTs in the last two years.

  144. 144 Adam S. said at 7:43 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    How bout that giants eye candy there gentlemen?!?!?!

    “my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard….”

    hahaha

  145. 145 ian no 2 said at 7:43 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    trade to Raiders would be great!

    I like Brandon Harris here. I have no idea what CB vets the Eagles are talking about internally.

  146. 146 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:43 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I think the fumes from the gasoline is making you light headed, that’s why you didn’t notice

  147. 147 Grimlock said at 7:44 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    ATG I wonder how much things would have been different if he had got that job.

  148. 148 Jordan said at 7:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Marvin Austin to the giants here

  149. 149 Eric said at 7:46 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Odd draft for the Eagles to just sit tight through the first two rounds.

  150. 150 Grimlock said at 7:46 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    This is the part where the Skins make me cuss.

  151. 151 -Triumph- said at 7:46 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    not sure why my avatar appears on this site but I think my e-mail address is associated with my avatar at a few sites.

  152. 152 mcud said at 7:47 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Without doing the research, it looks like a grand total of five presenters were not drafted by the team they are representing. Thats from gasoline soaked eyes though…

    Its certainly not half…

  153. 153 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:48 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Thank god Marvin Austin is gone. I hate the thought of him as an Eagle.

  154. 154 Jordan said at 7:48 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    pick traded to chicago

  155. 155 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:48 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Bears trying to get in front of Eagles here? Or Shanahan just trying to get more picks?

  156. 156 ian no 2 said at 7:48 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Giants are loading up on the high ceiling DL.

  157. 157 TEW! said at 7:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hate to say it but the Giantsmdraftmismlooking great.

  158. 158 bp said at 7:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    who turned mike mayock into jamie dukes?

  159. 159 MannaFromKevin said at 7:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ -Triumph-

    Do you still have to type in all your information for each post?

  160. 160 netherman said at 7:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Even if they do have a veteran CB in their hip pocket, I still want one this round or next. We are always one hit away from Hanson starting and I never feel comfortable w/him on the outside.

  161. 161 MF Joe said at 7:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jamie Dukes, glasses w. non corrective lenses don’t make you smarter.

  162. 162 LeicesterEagles73 said at 7:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Can someone tell the Redskins that just because they keep trading down, doesn’t make them anywhere near as good as the Patriots…

  163. 163 Grimlock said at 7:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mcud sorry, I wasn’t trying to be a jerk. Just seemed like half the presenters I could remember were not drafted by their teams. Marshal Faulk and that other guy. And what’s his name too.

  164. 164 sean said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Bears take Paea.

  165. 165 -Triumph- said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    there goes Paea

  166. 166 mcud said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    That reminds me…has Tommie Harris been picked up by anybody?

  167. 167 Kevin said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    COME ON TRADE DOWN WITH OAKLAND!
    Or Wilson/House

  168. 168 TEW! said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Damn, with Paea off the board, if the Raiders are serious about trading a 2012 first I pull the trigger.

  169. 169 PK said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Ryan Mallett is still available… how about taking him to learn behind Vick?

  170. 170 Eric said at 7:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Yeah, whether they know they are getting Awesome-O in free agency or not; they need at least 2 CBs drafted for when Nnamdi and Asante get 2 years older and they’re off the team.

  171. 171 Chris said at 7:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I think the other guy was the presenter for Houston… or maybe he was what’s his name.

  172. 172 mcud said at 7:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Me Grimlock

    No worries. We’re all friends here.

  173. 173 netherman said at 7:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jarrett?

  174. 174 Eric said at 7:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jarrett this early? 🙁

  175. 175 mcud said at 7:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The match is lit…

  176. 176 Thunderlips said at 7:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Balls

  177. 177 Grimlock said at 7:54 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    C’mon Brandon Harris!

  178. 178 Philanova said at 7:54 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jaiquawn Jarrett. Hmmmm. Not exactly excited about it.

  179. 179 ToastJenkins said at 7:54 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    safety from Temple…kinda surprised it isnt House…

    i was kinda preferencing the kid from Rutgers later

  180. 180 mcud said at 7:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Arrrghhhh!!!!

    Tell my wife I loved her.

  181. 181 Grimlock said at 7:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Well I didn’t know that Jarret was the Captain of the “All Chuckie Team”.

  182. 182 Kevin said at 7:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I like this pick. We need back 4 help
    Jarrett is physical.

    We definitely got tougher.

  183. 183 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jaiquawn Jarrett???

    Love the player, but pick 54? Is Bill Polian picking for us?

  184. 184 Rhinoddd50 said at 7:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Pick makes sense I guess. S is one of the positions I felt they needed to upgrade.

  185. 185 TEW! said at 7:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I hate this years draft. They aren’t extracting value at all.

  186. 186 Tommy Lawlor said at 7:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @mcud…

    That’s funny.

  187. 187 bp said at 7:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    so much for making any sort of BPA argument

  188. 188 Eric said at 7:57 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    If Andy was truly going all in he’d be trading up, trading up, trading up.

  189. 189 netherman said at 7:57 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    still may get tatergeddon if they keep picking ahead of their “perceived” value.

  190. 190 MannaFromKevin said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jarrett? Hm. Well. At least the dude can hit!

  191. 191 MF Joe said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    we got Temples 2nd best player!

  192. 192 Eric said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Who is coming into the box when Allen and Jarrett are on the field? They both can’t handle that pounding.

  193. 193 Kammich said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    One of the worst value picks of the draft so far in Jarrett(-65). I like his intangibles and potential as a box safety down the road. I just don’t think it was a priority need, especially considering that Jarrett and Coleman are practically the same player.

  194. 194 Adam S. said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    It almost seems like Andy can’t find anybody that wants to trade up when we are selecting so he is forced to reach for players he loves that could normally be had later.

    Oh well, like I said to myself yesterday ‘In Andy Reid I trust’……he is sure to putting that to test this weekend though

  195. 195 Dewey said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Tommy. Why is Harris falling? Size?

    @Everyone else. Obviously retooling 2ndary and Q is gone. Theoretically, if Lindley moves up to even nickel, then 3 DBs will be first or 2nd year.

  196. 196 Damon said at 7:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Not a fan of taking him at 54

  197. 197 Philanova said at 7:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    More beer.

  198. 198 Grimlock said at 8:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Would a 3 and a 4 get us back in here? I can’t wait this long.

  199. 199 PK said at 8:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    So Jarrett fits a need better than a first round talent at LB in Houston?

  200. 200 John C said at 8:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I hate that pick. Awful value. Big reach.

    Safety from…. Temple…. UGH

    Hope Brandon Harris doesn’t pan out.

  201. 201 MannaFromKevin said at 8:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    And now the Patriots are going to make some genius pick that pisses me off. But huzzah, we got Jarrett! :-/

  202. 202 Adam S. said at 8:01 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    at work…cant drink…..doesnt mean I cant go smoke a joint…..I need calming……

  203. 203 Rhinoddd50 said at 8:02 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I would have felt Jarret was much better value at #84.

  204. 204 Kammich said at 8:02 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I think I like Vereen more than most people, but I still had him behind LeShoure and Taiwan Jones among the remaining backs. Interesting pick for NE.

  205. 205 Grimlock said at 8:02 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Oh well, at least the lock out has ended. What? They did? I need some cappicola.

  206. 206 ian no 2 said at 8:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    There’s a reason for this, but I don’t get taking a bad value guy who plays the same position as Allen and Coleman. This is stubborn, and we’ll see if it’s a good kind of stubborn. Less chance Mikell comes back.

  207. 207 mcud said at 8:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    At this rate, we’re going to panic that we don’t have a 6th round pick, and go ahead and use our 3rd rounder on whomever we were going after in round 6. Then, its UDFAs from there on out…

  208. 208 mcud said at 8:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Absolutely no chance Q comes back now.

  209. 209 Rhinoddd50 said at 8:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    So far the Eagles have picked 2 of my favorite players at their respective positions, but while the value for Watkins was about right based on all projections, Jarrett feels like an early pick. Maybe they just didn’t want to risk losing him.

  210. 210 Tommy Lawlor said at 8:06 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RE: Brandon Harris

    I think teams question whether he’s a starter or slot corner. Real good underneath, but I saw too many people run by him. That bugged me. I think he’s real good for Cover 2.

  211. 211 TEW! said at 8:07 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    This is the first draft of the AR era where I am seriously pissed off. This class so far stinks in my view. One guy is old and will retire right when most guys are reaching their peak, the other guy lacks anything tangible to be excited about.

    Last yer Howie worked the draft board masterfully. This year draft board is working him.

  212. 212 ATG said at 8:07 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Adam

    Where the hell do you work?! No booze, but weed is allowed? Is Jimmy Smith there?

  213. 213 Begatts said at 8:07 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jarrett isn’t even listed on NFL.com’s “prospects” on their draft tracker!! Awful value. Bryan Smith, Matt McCoy, Jon Harris anyone?!?!?!

  214. 214 Grimlock said at 8:08 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ATG must be a restaurant.

  215. 215 Kammich said at 8:09 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I like the talent that Detroit has added, they’ve gotten plus-value with every one of their picks.

    But does Jim Schwartz realize that Titus Young and Mikel LeShoure can’t line up at LT and RT and keep Stafford alive? All these picks go for naught if you can’t keep Stafford healthy.

  216. 216 Eric said at 8:09 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    LOL!

    QMikell27 QMikell27
    by Jeff_McLane
    Phone Blowing Up Right Now Guess A Safety Was Taken How Is Anyone Surprised By This? They’ve Taken A Safety Almost Every Year I’ve Been Here

  217. 217 mcud said at 8:10 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Kammich

    I’ve got a RT that I would happily trade Detroit.

  218. 218 Rhinoddd50 said at 8:10 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Kammich, right on with Detroit. If they fail it will because they couldn’t keep Stafford clean

  219. 219 ToastJenkins said at 8:10 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Maybe we should just send AR out for a cheesesteak in round 2 every year…

  220. 220 arby said at 8:12 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Don’t know if you guys talked about this already but it’s very interesting to me that the Cards did not pick a QB in Rd 2 -assuming there was someone there they liked. A deal for Kolb possibly?

  221. 221 MannaFromKevin said at 8:14 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hopefully this isn’t a dumb question… who’s the old dude on with Spads and Merrill?

  222. 222 Rhinoddd50 said at 8:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Greg Little is the Jimmy Smith of WR’s. The guy is an awesome talent…but might be a punk.

  223. 223 mcud said at 8:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Greg was one of the few left that I coveted.

  224. 224 Dewey said at 8:17 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ToastJenkins

    Weren’t DeSean, McCoy, Kolb and Laws all 2nd Rounders??!?!?!?

    WTF are you talking about?

  225. 225 mcud said at 8:17 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Of course, I had no idea he’d go this early. I thought round 3 at the earliest.

  226. 226 mcud said at 8:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Dewey,

    Cant tell if you are serious or just not funny.

  227. 227 Dewey said at 8:20 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Not trying to be funny. I think Eagles round 1 and 2 picks are usually quite strong.

  228. 228 Grimlock said at 8:21 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    This could still be a good draft if we sign Nhamdi.

  229. 229 Kammich said at 8:23 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Can’t help but like what Houston is doing to fortify their defense. Addressing all 3 levels of the D with very talented players. Nice draft for the Texans so far.

  230. 230 -Triumph- said at 8:25 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Last year these guys are 5th rounders

  231. 231 Kevin said at 8:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Guys I like for RD3

    – Davon House
    – Curtis Brown
    – Martez Wilson
    – Alex Green
    – Kendell Hunter
    – Taiwon Jones

  232. 232 Dewey said at 8:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Triumph

    Agreed. Dreadful draft this year. Makes you wonder why Belicheck is accumulating later picks….

  233. 233 Tommy Lawlor said at 8:27 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Jarrett pick is still early, but I understand it a bit more the more I think about it. I’ll write a column out tonight.

  234. 234 netherman said at 8:27 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    If I see Mama Dietz and those gnarled old hands one more time…

  235. 235 Kevin said at 8:28 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I don’t quite get Washington’s draft strategy. Yes they needed depth. But don’t they want to contend this year? They didn’t take a QB.

  236. 236 Tommy Lawlor said at 8:29 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Kevin…

    That is a good list of players. I mentioned Curtis Brown to someone on the phone tonight.

  237. 237 HoagieFace said at 8:29 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m pretty sure the Eagles are going to trade up in the third to take a player from Community College of Philadelphia

  238. 238 ToastJenkins said at 8:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    really hoping we can move up from 84…i need something to salvage the night.

    otherwise i’ll be borrowing some of mcud’s volatile liquids

  239. 239 Kammich said at 8:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Goodbye Ronnie Brown. Miami just got your clone.

    I actually called that pick right in my 7-round mock(unfortunately I had Miami making that selection in the 3rd, not the 2nd).

  240. 240 Ken said at 8:32 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Both picks are good solid players. Neither is ideal value, but both are very safe picks. The problem is our roster is full of these types of guys. What we need is some special talent and/or big time upside, especially on defense. I’d love to get Martez Wilson or Justin Houston some how.

  241. 241 Tommy Lawlor said at 8:33 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Are you guys still having to sign in every time you comment?

  242. 242 -Triumph- said at 8:33 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    my take on the guy from Temple… he was the last safety on the board that the Eagles had any interest in. And because of the lack of safeties available of quality, and the lack of anyone else who really stood out, they just went with the guy they think who can help.

  243. 243 Philanova said at 8:34 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Remaining players that I covet:

    RB Dion Lewis
    RB Kendall Hunter
    RB Jacquizz Rodgers
    RB Taiwan Jones
    RB Demarco Murray
    RB Alex Green
    RB Bilal Powell

    WR Randall Cobb
    WR Leonard Hankerson
    WR Austin Pettis
    WR Cecil Shorts III

    C Alex Linnenkohl
    C Brandon Fusco
    C Jake Kirkpatrick
    C Kris O’Dowd

    DE Allen Bailey
    DE Sam Acho
    DE Greg Romeus

    OLB Justin Houston
    OLB Mark Herzlich
    OLB Mason Foster
    OLB K.J. Wright

    ILB Martez Wilson
    ILB Quan Sturdivant
    ILB Greg Jones
    ILB Casey Matthews

    CB Brandon Burton
    CB Johnny Patrick
    CB Davon House
    CB Chimdi Chekwa
    CB Buster Skrine
    CB Curtis Brown
    CB Curtis Marsh
    CB Jalil Brown

  244. 244 -Triumph- said at 8:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I have to enter name and e-mail address every time I comment. I don’t have to type it, really, I can just click in each box and it’s already there for me to select, so it’s not so terrible for me.

  245. 245 Kevin said at 8:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Yes Tommy.

    —

    GB taking a WR. Driver may retire and Jones is a FA.

  246. 246 -Triumph- said at 8:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    actually, I have to click twice in each box

  247. 247 mcud said at 8:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’d be fine with Curtis Brown in the 3rd. He’s our most athletic CB from day 1.

    I’m keeping an eye on Greg Romeus and Marcus Cannon. Wonder how much their medical issues make them fall.

  248. 248 John Scott said at 8:38 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Manna, the old guy is “Philly Billy” Werndl (pronounced ‘Wern-dell), he used to work for a scouting service (sorry, can’t remember who), I ran into him while I lived in So. Cal, I listened to him on XTRA Sports out of San Diego. I think he did that gig for a number of years, 10-12 or so, and now, well, I guess he’s back east, maybe he’s working another draft service again, not sure. Hope it helps.

  249. 249 Grimlock said at 8:39 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Heheh…Buster Skrine…sounds dirty.

  250. 250 Kammich said at 8:41 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Tremendous value pick for GB. I guess Jones will be gone via FA. Now they can commit Jordy Nelson to being the slot guy and have Cobb pick up all of his return/trickery duties.

  251. 251 mcud said at 8:41 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Bruce Carter pick to the Cowboys puzzles me. They’ve already got relatively young OLBs in Ware and Spencer. Carter isn’t a great fit anyway.

    Wonder Carter was a panic pick after both Dowling and Williams went off the board right before they picked. Also wonder if that makes Curtis Brown their choice here in a few minutes.

  252. 252 MannaFromKevin said at 8:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @John Scott – thanks

    I’d just like us to come out of this draft with at least 2 CBs. Asomugha or no Asomugha, I’d like some young guys to work into the system.

  253. 253 Philanova said at 8:43 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Randall Cobb had an attractive ladyfriend amongst his posse.

  254. 254 Adam S. said at 8:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ ATG….I own a lottery kiosk inside a mall, that is very slow….

  255. 255 Kammich said at 8:48 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hmm, Cincy runs a 43 base D, don’t they? Really didn’t expect to see Moch go to a 43 team.

  256. 256 Eric said at 8:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    John Elway had a chew in. haha nice spitter going on there.

  257. 257 mcud said at 8:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jeez. Justin Houston must have tested positive for drain cleaner.

  258. 258 netherman said at 8:49 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Wilson/Matthews I think will be our next pick…wish we could somehow pick up a 3rd rounder to snag Brown too.

  259. 259 Philanova said at 8:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Sooo… What’s everybody drinking?

    Victory Lager over here.

  260. 260 Kammich said at 8:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    drinkin’ some Fosters oil drums.

  261. 261 Rhinoddd50 said at 8:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I love Nate Irving. He is Ernie Simms with instincts.

    Speaking of Ernie, I think I last saw him chasing cars on I-95

  262. 262 Adam S. said at 8:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Orange slurpee with soft serve ice cream……creamsicle

    ballin’!!!

  263. 263 Kammich said at 8:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Really like the Sheppard fit for Buffalo. Could be a David Harris type in their 34, and he has the range to stay on the field in their nickel D.

  264. 264 Dewey said at 8:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Am I the only one who really prefers J. Joseph to Asamougha? He’s younger and is used to playing RCB not LCB.

  265. 265 mcud said at 8:54 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Formaldehyde.

  266. 266 Name said at 8:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Dewey
    I want Joseph too. Younger + Cheaper. Use your money to sign Tulloch & resign your guys.

  267. 267 Philanova said at 8:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I prefer Nnamdi, but would be extremely happy with Joseph as a “consolation” prize.

  268. 268 nicolajNN said at 8:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mudd on eagles live now

  269. 269 netherman said at 8:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mudd on PE.com now

  270. 270 Grimlock said at 8:57 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Bottle of Blue Moon no fruit, plus large Mcdonalds sweet tea with some Jack in it, don’t tell the wife.

  271. 271 Kammich said at 8:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RIP Marion Barber in Dallas

  272. 272 Eric said at 8:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Not enough footballs to go around for all the RBs in Dallas.

  273. 273 MannaFromKevin said at 9:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Bud Light Lime. I’m on a diet… which means diet beer. 🙁 But the moment it gets nice and warm out in the spring I get an immediate hankering for BLL and Corona. Just reminds me of drinking on the beach.

  274. 274 mcud said at 9:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I think Dallas is drafting for us.

  275. 275 Rhinoddd50 said at 9:01 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Jerry Jones knows how to pick stars, but I don’t think he knows how to build a roster that is tailored to a system. He makes some strange “fit” picks.

  276. 276 Kevin said at 9:01 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I didn’t want Murray, good to see him go to Dallas. Hunter/Jones still on the board.

  277. 277 mcare89 said at 9:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    There goes Wilson to New Orleans. Really like their draft.

  278. 278 Philanova said at 9:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Bills having a great defensive draft, IMO.

  279. 279 Kammich said at 9:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I was growing increasingly intrigued by Martez Wilson falling down the 3rd round. He was the highest ranked player left on my board. The Saints have smited me!

  280. 280 Kevin said at 9:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Hate seeing Wilson go to NO. Great pick for them. I suppose that means we have to go RB with this pick.

  281. 281 Philanova said at 9:08 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Kammich

    You been smote!

  282. 282 netherman said at 9:08 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    love Mudd

  283. 283 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:09 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Mudd saying anything interesting? Got caught on the phone with a friend.

    Ridley to NE … weird pick.

  284. 284 Dewey said at 9:09 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    What did Mudd say about potentially shifting OL around?

  285. 285 Kammich said at 9:09 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Apparently New England wasnt satisfied with a productive committee of UDFA’s like Woodhead and the Lawfirm. They’ve now added a scatback and a bruiser.

    If this were 95% of the other teams in the NFL, I’d be screaming “idiots don’t know how to draft!” But its New England. So they’re probably gonna end up being right.

  286. 286 ToastJenkins said at 9:11 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    as if i needed one more reason to hate the Pats…

  287. 287 Adam S. said at 9:11 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    the more I read and see of Mudd the more excited I get about the OL.

  288. 288 Kammich said at 9:11 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    if Ryan Mallett had Tom Brady’s hair he’d be UBER QUARTERBACK. he’d be like Jason Voorhees in “Jason X.”

    I can’t stop picturing this now.

  289. 289 netherman said at 9:13 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    basically everybody is playing for their position (doesn’t care who started last year or where they come from)…already watching video of senior bowl with watkins (encouraging) and had really positive comments about him. feels really good about what he has to work with.

  290. 290 Grimlock said at 9:14 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Papa Watkins = Awesome!

  291. 291 netherman said at 9:15 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Watkins dad on now

  292. 292 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:15 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Kammich…

    Funny stuff.

  293. 293 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:18 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Will Rackley to the Jags. Good for him.

  294. 294 lil Lehigh said at 9:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Go Lehigh!

  295. 295 Grimlock said at 9:20 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Any thoughts on Boling still hanging around?

  296. 296 Kammich said at 9:21 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I think Seattle really reached on Carpenter, but I LOVED Moffitt and had a 2nd-round grade on him for a team who employs a power running game. with Okung, Carpenter and Moffitt in tow, guys like Lynch and Forsett should be very happy.

  297. 297 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:22 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Some targets for me:

    RB Taiwan Jones
    RB Alex Green
    DT Drake Nevis
    CB Davon House
    CB Curtis Brown
    LB Ross Homan

    Outside name to watch…

    LB Casey Matthews

  298. 298 ToastJenkins said at 9:22 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    they need Watkins’ dad as a regular feature lol

  299. 299 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:22 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RE: Boling

    Real surprised he’s still on the board. Great value at this point.

  300. 300 Baloophi said at 9:22 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Here’s a stretch for a new nickname…

    Mr. Danny Watkins… Sexual Chocolate?

  301. 301 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:23 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ ToastJ…

    Any relation to Bob or Doug McKenzie?

  302. 302 bp said at 9:24 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    tommy, do you think any of sturdivant, foster or wilson would be solid fits at LB?

  303. 303 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:27 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Sturdivant would be good fit. Can play MLB or WLB. Foster isn’t a good fit in my mind. Not sure what Juan thinks.

    Wilson? Martez already picked.

  304. 304 Eric said at 9:30 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Tommy,

    Boling is value at this point but what do you do with him? Plug him in at LG, kick out Herremans and trade Justice?

    Sounds fun, huh. haha

  305. 305 netherman said at 9:31 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Lawrence Wilson?

  306. 306 bp said at 9:31 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    meant lawrence wilson from uconn.

  307. 307 ToastJenkins said at 9:31 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I just want to hear Watkins trashtalk at the line…

    “Take off, hosehead”

  308. 308 Kevin said at 9:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    RB should be the next pick. Position of need. Correct value.

  309. 309 Philanova said at 9:38 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Curtis Brown, please please please. Or a RB at good value.

  310. 310 Eric said at 9:39 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Well, even if TB takes a corner, Brown, Burton or House will be there.

    Get another corner in the 4th and I’ll feel better.

  311. 311 americanfoot said at 9:40 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Traded to BAL

  312. 312 Grimlock said at 9:41 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Oh….FIDDLESTICKS!

  313. 313 Philanova said at 9:41 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Trade back. This draft is doing everything it can to underwhelm me, I think.

    I’m warming up to the picks to this point (good players, just questionable value, IMO), but right now I’m just feeling very “meh” about this draft.

  314. 314 Ken said at 9:41 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I hate that the giants got jernigan. Him and Nicks will give us problems for years.

  315. 315 Eric said at 9:42 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m going to kill someone! I actually like Reid, too. The player… although I like the coach too.

  316. 316 Eric said at 9:43 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    The Eagles know there is value in the 6th round so they had to get in there.

  317. 317 Dr. Ogrodnick said at 9:43 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    moved back a few slots for the Raven’s 6th pick

  318. 318 Grimlock said at 9:44 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Did they trade back? Or did they get something next year?

  319. 319 netherman said at 9:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    maybe now use that extra juice to get 4th up to end of 3rd and snag someone else before people get a chance to sleep on it

  320. 320 Grimlock said at 9:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I see

  321. 321 Baloophi said at 9:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Good. They can use Baltimore’s 6th to take Jaiquawn Jarrett.

    Wait…

  322. 322 Adam S. said at 9:45 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    No mention of the Raiders taking the combines fastest man? good old Al had to get his pick in at some point.

    Giants will lose Smith though which hurts them. They were going to replace him at some point here.

  323. 323 Eric said at 9:47 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Eagles need to start trading up with some of these later picks. They don’t need 11 rookies again. 6 will not make the team.

  324. 324 Kevin said at 9:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I hope we trade a 5 for a 4 next year and a 6 for a 5 next year. We don’t have that man openings.

  325. 325 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ Baloophi…

    Great comment.

    If we get a 2nd round player here, the Jarrett pick isn’t so bad. If we get a 5th round player…

  326. 326 -Triumph- said at 9:50 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Trade up for what?

  327. 327 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Guys…picks in the late rounds don’t have to make the team. They can be on the Practice Squad.

  328. 328 -Triumph- said at 9:51 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Trade out, maybe…

  329. 329 -Triumph- said at 9:52 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Is this Mama Dietz commercial one of the worst ever?

  330. 330 Baloophi said at 9:53 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    We’re on deck.

    Let’s get Tommy Alex Green, Taiwan Jones, or Kenrick Ellis so we can feel a little better about value…

  331. 331 -Triumph- said at 9:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Curtis Marsh…

  332. 332 Baloophi said at 9:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Trevard Lindley redux?

  333. 333 netherman said at 9:55 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    what do we know about this dude?

  334. 334 Philanova said at 9:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Curtish Marsh it is. A CB, although I don’t know all too much about him.

  335. 335 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Eagles pick CB Curtis Marsh, CB from Utah State. Good pick. We needed to add a big, fast CB. Good value. Lots of upside.

  336. 336 Grimlock said at 9:56 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    CB? Why do something like that?

  337. 337 Eric said at 9:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Is he really better than Burton or Brown?

  338. 338 -Triumph- said at 9:58 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    9 inch hands

  339. 339 ToastJenkins said at 9:59 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    gonna have to plead ignorance on Marsh…

    did house get 13 girls pregnant in college or something?

  340. 340 Kevin said at 10:00 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m happy with this. Position of need. Good Value. Starting potential. Clearly not playing for us in 2011. However he gets a stinger so we can red-shirt him

  341. 341 ian no 2 said at 10:02 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Marsh is a raw athlete who has played two years at CB. 4.4 speed, 6′, 37″ vertical leap. A lot of athletes like that can’t play the position, but what’s encouraging about him is that he actually played well against guys like Titus Young. He’s a developmental and not a guy who can step in next year.

  342. 342 Grimlock said at 10:03 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @Toast why would Big Red care about that? He is a mormon isn’t he.

  343. 343 mcud said at 10:04 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I don’t know how much you can expect from any rookie this year in terms of contribution. The lockout could last quite awhile, if the appeal holds up. No rookie camps, OTAs, maybe even mini-camps. Pretty essential for rooks to be there early and often to make an impact in year 1, especially guys taken after round 1.

    Developmental kids and those with injuries might make more sense this year than they usually do…

  344. 344 Philanova said at 10:05 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Would anybody be upset if the Eagles selected another CB with pick #104 (the Redskins’ former pick, early 4th round)?

    I like the Marsh pick, but considering the quantity of remaining picks the Eagles have (2 4’s, 2 5’s, 1 6, and 3 7’s), I wouldn’t mind them nabbing a second CB to try to make certain they address the position since they weren’t able to grab one of the higher pedigreed players.

  345. 345 Cliff said at 10:07 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Curtis-Marsh-A-potential-topfive-CB-prospect.html

  346. 346 Baloophi said at 10:08 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Curtis Marsh. Does he return punts and/or kicks?

  347. 347 Grimlock said at 10:10 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    I’m not sure how I feel about this draft yet. Strangely remorseful yet somewhat intriged.

  348. 348 Tommy Lawlor said at 10:11 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Early thoughts on Curtis Marsh.

    http://bit.ly/j9XhVQ

  349. 349 ian no 2 said at 10:12 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Based on draft grades they’ve picked a 2nd and two 4ths, enough reaching to scrub down an elephant. But it matters what people think in a few years. Heckert seemed to have a better sense about where people would go. This draft seems to be the team locking in on guys that they know will be on the board without having to think much about other teams.

  350. 350 mcud said at 10:18 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Yeah, I’m definitely calibrated to the Tom Heckert “Know your Enemy” type of drafting style; i.e. good guesses as to when the player you want will be taken, so you can swoop in and steal him.

    Howie seems to be of the Bill Polian school of “I Know What I Want, so F You if you don’t agree” thought.

    I miss Tom. I’ll get used to Howie I guess.

  351. 351 MannaFromKevin said at 10:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @ian no 2

    This draft is unique because not a single team satisfied any of its needs via free agency. So suddenly they have to worry about addressing more positions than usual. So they have to reach to make sure they get the guys they want because if they miss on a position in the draft there’s no guarantee they satisfy it in free agency. It’s crazy but I can see why and the Eagles aren’t the only ones making crazy, reach picks.

  352. 352 Hairy Paraballs said at 10:19 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Some of you guys are basing value on where media people that dont work in the NFL think they will go. If you read in your sporting news draft guide that someone is a first rounder and every team passes on him twice and he lasts to the third round, HE DIDNT DROP!!! That means that NFL front offices always had him rated as a third rounder.

  353. 353 MannaFromKevin said at 10:22 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    @mcud

    I really don’t think this is a Howie vs. Heckert type of change. Look at last year’s draft. You didn’t see this last year so much. I think it’s a product of the environment and the Eagles are not the only ones reacting in this way. It’s a whole new animal and teams have to adapt. Adapt or risk making critical mistakes. You’ve seen the crazy spot teams are taking players. Carpenter in the first? Locker 8th? I mean, there might have been a few teams that coveted Carptender or Locker and were waiting until later to take them. All of a sudden, they’re gone! All bets are off, man. You can’t ASSUME that anyone will be available in the round you expect them to be. You’ve gotta be bold or miss your shot.

  354. 354 MannaFromKevin said at 10:24 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    to clarify, my previous post was in reference to the lockout and no CBA and no free agency and no trades, etc., before the draft

  355. 355 ian no 2 said at 10:35 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    HP, Do you know any football people who thought Jaiquawn Jarrett was coming off the board soon?

  356. 356 Grimlock said at 10:44 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Great point Mannafromkevin.

  357. 357 Tommy Lawlor said at 11:16 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Good post MFK.

    I’ve already heard there was a feeling among some NFL scouts that JJ was a reach at 54. The point is that this is a player the Eagles really locked onto and didn’t want to risk losing.

    I hope they made a wise choice.

    It isn’t a horrible choice, but the value angle is weird.

  358. 358 Tommy Lawlor said at 11:26 PM on April 29th, 2011:

    Popping in Utah State game to study. I’ll post notes tomorrow.

  359. 359 ian no 2 said at 9:24 AM on April 30th, 2011:

    MFK, Good observation but Locker and Carpenter are bad picks. I wouldn’t hold up the current Seahawks and the Titans as models of how to run an organization. The Giants and the Patriots pick value under any circumstance. I prefer rooting for a smart team to rooting for a team that fills holes defensively like a perennial fantasy league runner up.

    If you want to save a few bucks by dumping Mikell, take the risk that Coleman, one of your young backups, or a free agent will step up rather than take a 4th rounder in the 2nd. And there’s what I call the “Te’o Syndrome” where you are smitten with a guy who is graded for the late round because scout’s assessment of his abilities and college performance, and you absolutely have to have him and reach for them, despite the fact that 45 teams somehow found a way to win the Super Bowl without Te’o and Jarrett and none of them wore midnight green.

  360. 360 ian no 2 said at 9:40 AM on April 30th, 2011:

    to make that more clear: “Te’o Syndrome” where you are smitten by the character or maturity of a guy the scouts graded for the late round because of his abilities and college performance, and you absolutely have to have him and reach for them

  361. 361 bithKayathy said at 12:19 PM on July 21st, 2011:

    Enter comment here.