Game Thread – PHI at BUF
Posted: October 9th, 2011 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 251 Comments »My theme for Sunday continues to be … just win, baby.
Darryl Tapp starts. Juqua Parker is active.
Derek Landri makes his Eagles regular season debut. I expect nothing less than greatness.
Inactives:
Julian Vandervelde
Jason Peters
Kyle DeVan
Mike Kafka
Trent Cole
Curtis Marsh
Jaiquawn Jarrett
Interesting to see Winston Justice active and DeVan sitting. If anything happens with Watkins, does that mean Winston would play there? Would Todd shift to LG, Mathis to RG and Justice would be RT? Would Todd just slide in to RG and Justice take his spot? I hope we don’t have to find out.
I am interested to see how Watkins does today. If he can limit his mistakes, he could give us a nice boost up front.
Vince Young is active. Will he get any snaps in specialty packages?
Let’s go win this thing.
After last weeks game I’m almost not sure I want to watch this weeks. My system can’t take too much more angst and anguish.
After last weeks game I’m almost not sure I want to watch this weeks. My system can’t take too much more angst and anguish.
I still get sooooo pumped up on game day even when we’re 1-3.
Damn straight brotha. I’ve been wired since 9AM.
Jarrett inactive again? So much for him at least contributing on special teams.
I will stand for no more insolence! Eagles win 106-3.
Please? Guys?
C’mon man, you think King Dunlap is gonna let even one FG get past him?
Kudos to both of you. I like the thinking.
Wouldn’t Kelce go to RG and JamJax to Center?
Very well could be.
Billick on the broadcast…why are we always cursed with the asshat crews??
When was the last time we thought ‘the Bills should be a good test for our team’? Early 90’s, I guess. What a strange new world this is..
You didn’t even comment on Kafka being inactive, some wondered if we would see that with the rule change regarding 3rd QB
generous spot there. we need all the luck we can get
That was. Replay is tough because Mac turns toward the line. Can’t see exactly where ball is.
That’ll probably be overturned.
Oh great, all we need is one yard. *covers eyes*
dont have to wait long for a 4th and 1….much better playcall there
Phew.
I think karma has just decided to bite this team in the ass.
Great 4th down play and then a friggin’ turnover. Not the start I wanted.
We just cant catch a fuckin’ break.
Are we unlucky or the Bills just lucky this year?
Unlucky, since it seems to happen every friggin’ week.
And we can’t stop the run. Surprise.
Turnovers, bad tackling, same story different week. I’m not very confident
Why the time out there?
Keep ’em off balance.
I don’t get it. Why waste the timeout. Your players will give up big plays regardless of whether they are in position or not. Hell, throw out 16 defensive players and they still wouldn’t get the job done.
Honestly, the longest commercial break ever.
Where’s everyone’s confidence level now? Great time out play huh?
Eagles have to lead the league in missed tackles.
God, it sure feels that way.
I think I know this much – if you have a fantasy team and it features someone playing Philadelphia – you start em.
Just when I’m starting to feel good about this team, it happens again…
The Flyers are 2-0. I like turtles.
I love lamp.
Tommy, what made Tapp move inside just before the snap?
This is where we turn it around. Hold Buffalo to negative yardage for the rest of the game, while our offense goes on a 48-0 run.
Hmm? Probably not.
Climb aboard the vomit train, everybody!
how can Juan not be fired at halftime?? this defense is putrid
Whoever came off the right edge completely took himself out of the play
Nice defense Juan
and he thought he knew how to fix it
How Juan Castillo still has a job is beyond me. Andy’s buidling in a excuse at the end of the year when they suck…Well our DC didn’t quite pan out, so we’re gonna replace him…
How about you do whats obvious Andy and get someone who isn’t so far underwater to coach this team. Hell I think a Madden Football game could plan and play call as well as Juan.
I saw them make that play to the tight end Jones on NFL playbook, even I could see that happening. Mismatch was Samuel on Jones, he had a huge cushion on that slant.
It seems like a few times every game Samuel decides to play 8-10 yards off the receiver, and gives up an easy pitch and catch. If I was an offensive coordinator I’d throw that slant five or six times a game at Samuel. It’s not like Asante is a lock to make the tackle.
Come on guys, this is a good thing. You know how much trouble we have had protecting a lead.
Jarrad Page was the culprit. Big surprise.
Billick said it just like I asked about Tapp. No one is lined up correctly. I’m sorry, that’s on the coaches.
Tommy,
I think you could take a break from your DGRs this year….I’ll give you all 16 right here:
Offefnse – the turnovers and red zone offense failures were key. We just can’t keep making mistakes.
Defense – Run defense, lack of pressure on key plays, big plays,, tackling, and red zone defense all let us done today.
That right there should save you hours.
What we need is for Lurie to tell an assistant to go down at halftime and tell Reid he’s been benched, just like Reid did to McNabb vs Baltimore. Then we’ll trade Reid to the “Boys for a bag of peanuts.
Why the end around there? we were marching down the field on them with normal plays. So lets get cute….Fucking coaches.
Surprisingly, it seemed like a good defensive play call on the touchdown run. Paige had a free run at Jackson…..and ran right by him unblocked. Awful.
Came in to wide, but that’s always been his deal.
End around, nice call after a good run by McCoy.
So Andy knows this team can’t play base football so he results to trickery like misdirection screens and running plays to DeSean.
Jazz hands!
In the NFL, you draft well or die.
Of the starters on the Eagles defense today, only Mike Patterson (2005), Jamar Chaney (2010), Brian Rolle (2011), Moise Fokou (2009), and Nate Allen (2010) were drafted by the Eagles. Only Nate Allen (2nd) and Mike Patterson (1st) were drafted higher than the 6th round.
You reap what you sow. If you can’t evaluate defensive talent in the NFL draft, you will find yourself forced to fill in the gaps with older free agents (Jenkins, Babin, Asomugha, Samuel), mediocre free agents (Page, Tapp), and young, late-round players with little experience or talent (Chaney, Fokou, Coleman, Rolle).
We can trace this all back to Howie Roseman, and whoever else is calling the shots on draft day (Reid? Banner?). A substantial portion of the blame falls on them.
Tapp wasn’t a free agent.
I’m nitpicking, because I’m in a bad mood.
Mike Vick, Jason Avant, and LeSean McCoy….lets get rid of everyone else – not that I’m over reacting or anything.
Why am I watching this bullshit?
Make that Avant and McCoy…get rid of everoyne else.
Entering Luck territory.
Seeing as the Bills have 4 sacks all year, It makes sense that they are getting pressure on Vick. That total may more than double today.
After the Bills score right here, anyone got a suggestion on what other game to watch? I mean I could keep watching this, but like I told tommy, I think we can all pretty much nail down exactly what happened, without viewing the game.
Just don’t understand why Marty and Andy aren’t making the Bills pay with some 3 step slant routes. It looks like Buffalo has 8 in the box every play. When it’s not a run, the safety or and ILB are blitzing.
How about a lucky fan coaches the team for the rest of the season. Maybe connect a 12 year old’s Xbox and let him call plays off of Madden. Has to go better, right?
Oh that Blitz was just so close…oh wait, it wasn’t.
When the QBs helmet flies off, that is a good clue for the refs that there was a blow to the head, right?
Have we had a turnover on defense this year since the nmandi interception?
Also why couldn’t we have traded asante for something??
Asante had an INT later in that game.
Yeah, and I just remembered the babin strip. But still feels like nothing.
If that would’ve been a good pass, that would’ve been pass interference.
A defensive player got a hand on a football? Wow. Wow. WOW.
What’s the word for the opposite of a playmaker?
Because the Eagles have a team full of them.
I believe the expression you are looking for is “Reno Mahe”
Well done
Wait a minute….. Opponent’s drives don’t have to end with touchdowns?
A 2-yard net on the punt? We’ll take that.
This broadcast marks the first time I’ve ever been sad or angry while listening to “Frankenstein” by the Edgar Winters Group.
The Eagles need to turn it around, for the sake of my dance moves.
What is with the lame “Let’s Go Back” graphic? Did Fox just find WordArt?
This broadcast is even worse than the game. Brian Billick is killing me and Sam Rosen doesn’t know the names of the players.
It’ll really be a shame if we don’t turn this season around, because our division is completely up for grabs.
We just need to find a way to win today and then go forward one Sunday at a time.
The refs are pathetic. No way a challenge should have to be issued here, that is as clear cut as it gets.
Ref’s are ready to get there day over, figure it’ll go qiucker if they help the team that doesn’t suck
C’mon refs. No evidence that was even close to being a fumble. Forcing us to use a challenge. At least Andy didn’t screw it up by not challenging.
At least Vick gets to walk it off without a timeout.
Another obvious non-turnover requiring a review.
The officials should flag themselves for piling on.
At this point, however frustrated I am with anyone on the Eagles, I am 100 times more frustrated with Beelzebub himself Rupert effing Murdoch. And to the NFL, what is a free market? I I buy my service through you, why should you restrict hat because of what Rupert is screening on British TV.
Scum scum, scum.
Now to rant about the Eagles 🙁
Wow Andy won the Challenge!
What a cheap shot. At least Vick’s leg looks fine. Finally a break.
Wait, you aren’t allowed to do that to Vick? Huh.
Oh crap, we’re at the 1 yard line. Should we punt?
My money is on missed FG or trick play turnover
EDIT– YAY
1st and goal from the 2. Crap.
I was just about to type “so we’ve already given up on the run.” Let’s not forget we have McCoy…
Nice downfield blocking for His Shadiness.
So you’re saying there’s a chance.
Great. Love D&D’er.
That’s what I want to see!
I wanna see Andy bump with Maclin
Defense stopped ’em last time out. We need that to happen again.
Or not. Nice job again Juan.
So, wait, Vick gets a roughing call AND the goalline series puts the ball in the hands of three of the best players AND results in a touchdown?
Eagles, I don’t even know who you are anymore. But I like it.
Not only that, Andy challenged correctly and won.
And the D just gang tackled a runner.
Freaky.
(sigh) I miss Owen Schmidt.
I’m sure there will be a few more opportunities for the red zone double reverse option pass to Schmitt that Andy drew up.
If there was a “Lets Go Back” drinking game, I’d be hammered by now.
Might not be a bad idea, actually.
So first 3 drives, Eagles turn the ball over twice and defense allows TD and looks bad doing so.
Last 2 drives, defense makes a stop and Eagles score a RZ TD.
The team they’ve been and the team they could be, all in 20 minutes of football.
And no hold on Jason Babin on the screen play. Come on. That was obvious.
why the Bills don’t run it every play is beyond me.
Is this a joke? We look like a middling college team.
Did Asante jump out of the way of that tackle so he wouldnt get blocked out of the way?
/ just stand there on that touchdown?
A ten yard cushion does NOT work in the end zone
Yep. Maybe just me, but it sure looks like Asante has given up this year. He has put no effort in whatsoever.
It looks that way to me too. Bench him and start Nmandi, DRC and Hanson in the slot.
If he doesn’t want to play, thats fine with me
Sign me up for the the bench Asante bandwagon. Gives too big of a cushion, doesn’t gie maximum effort, can’t tackle.
Agreed.
No looks like a blocker knocked his legs out from under him from behind.
We sure can stop teams in the red zone.
Lets get a early look at that DGR again…
Turnovers-Check
Red Zone offense –
Bad Tackling – Check
Run Defnese – Check
Big Plays – Check
Red Zone defense – Check
Not worried too much, the game plan appears to be to not take the lead because that hasn’t worked out for them.
I think I am getting tired of Asante’s big play ability
Yeah, he’s driving me nuts this year.
I have defended him in the past because he was kind of right, we were paying him for interceptions. But in the past, he had so many game changing catches that if he missed a tackle, it wasn’t a huge deal.
Now not only is he not getting the interceptions, hes not even playing football.
Asante Samuel is ALWAYS behind WRs at the goal line. He’s not even next to them. Just behind them.
Have the Coaches NOT SEEN that on the tape?
Has anyone tried to coach Asante on this?
Or is that the Scheme?
What the hell is going on out there?!
Oh the second quarter isn’t their thing. Eagles are a 4th quarter team.
I Didn’t think it was possible for our D to be worse then last year but its light years worse.
I guess Juan’s “fix” for blowing big leads is to not let the offense build a big lead.
My grandmother could game plan against this defense.
Does anyone remember Dion Lewis making it past the 25 yard line? I think he’s managed it once and it was called back.
Is he just slow?
Slow and mediocre (on the side of bad) blocking.
Bye bye season
Edit: (Not meant to be a reply!)
man do we miss Trent Cole…
Every time this team takes one step forward, they take three steps back. Its like an unshakable stigma for them this year. I don’t know if its coaching, motivation, ego, execution, or a whole big clusterfuck of them all… but its killing them. And me, for that matter.
Barely any pass-rush pressure today.
And, while I love on 3rd down, Babin’s a revolving door on running plays.
Problems. Problems
COME ON
Hello Draft
Well at least our defense doesn’t have to go back on the field.
Ok. It’s time to ask.
Would Kolb be any better?
No.
This season? Maybe, maybe not.
The next 4-6 years? Without question.
Vick was lightning in a bottle last year. He’s been shit in a shoe this year. And I don’t see it getting any better.
Absolutely not. But Arizona fans would LOVE to see us ask for him back.
It shocks me that people still try to pretend that Kevin Kolb is anything above a mediocre NFL QB.
Does NHL have a mlb.tv type thing? I might need to become a hockey fan and live out of Flyers market.
what
a
play
So Tommy who do you like for the Eagles in the draft? This season is DONE.
PS Fire Juan, hell lets fire Andy & the rest of the staff too.
I have figured out the defensive scheme. D-line just run at the qb at the snap. The rest of you guys on the field, just pretend like you are doing something.
Ugly, ugly, ugly.
I guess its possible we lose here.
Now can we fire everybody?
Maybe this is Andy’s new way of keeping the defense off of the field.
this team is absolutely brutal…time to start drinking
This might be the first time in my history as an Eagles fan that I’m considering shutting the game off and like, going outside, or something stupid like that.
Its that or I’m going to put a hole through my TV.
It is a nice day out.
This is just absolutely pathetic
Our D is horrendous so our Offense decides to help by gifting them 3 TO’s and a TD? This could be a blowout
When was the last time the Eagles season was this hopeless? Is it back in 1999? When the season was over after 5 weeks?
Are you ready for some Small Ball?
Clay Harbor . . . obviously he’s not part of today’s plan.
Hopefully there’s a refund clause in Vick’s contract.
I wish there was a basketball season. A long time to go without watching a important game that I’ll care about.
We get to see the other Henry
At what point do we got to Vince Young just for the hell of it?
Implosion Incoming
Vick is making George Wilson look like Ronnie Lott.
Where are all those people who thought the Eagles could blow out Buffalo?? Tommy you still think a blowout is possible? Hahahaha…this team is so bad. Soooo bad. Among the worst in the league….Andrew Luck anyone?
The silver-lining to the pick 6 is we didn’t have to watch this garbage defense.
Getting a chance to punt is almost a win for the offense.
Except it brings on the defense.
So is this rock bottom yet? Or is that next week when the Redskins come off of the bye to kick the crap out of the Eagles?
I don’t think its rock bottom yet unfortunately
Rock bottom will be losing to a 1 win Arizona team at home.
NNAMDI TACKLEMUGHA
24 has decided he wants to play.
Dion looks like he has more burst on that kind of run than on kickoffs
Mr. Wilson seems to have transformed into George the Menace.
You would think as much as Vick runs he would have learned to tuck the ball away after crossing the line of scrimmage by now
so where will THIS turnover come from?
aww just kidding. I hope.
Why the fuck punt here?
Herr Dawg seems to be having a rough day today
Net gain 20 yards. Way to go Andy!!!!!
Not going for it on 4th and 4 at the Buffalo 37?? Are they not aware of the score? Or is this their way of admitting the defense is wretched?
Andy Reid master of game management. Gains net 14 yards on punt for touchback.
So assuming they score here, and then get the ball back to start the second half, it may be 35-7 before we get to touch it again?
You Punt there? Are you kidding
Uh, Andy…? Knock knock, anyone in there Big Red?
Out of timeouts before the 2 minute warning: Check
Doesn’t bother me as much as when he uses them all with 4 min left. Can’t challenge inside 2 min anyway.
Hurts more now.
WTF was that
Ryan Fitzpatrick could have gotten that first down with two broken legs.
Great JOB D Lets not put anyone up the middle, Wide 9 is just working wonders for us
Why not bring them into a normal line for short yardage situations?
Jesus Christ Juan. Giving up a 7 yard QB sneak on 3 and 5 after your team spent its final time out expecting a stop? He should be fired right now. Banned from the locker room at half time. Drive yourself back to Philly you idiot.
I think the Eagles coaching staff needs to personally apologize to all the free agents they signed.
Touche.
Tommy,
In all seriousness, can you write an article on why its SO hard to gameplan/call plays? Like if we were to crowdsource the job, wouldn’t it pretty much go better than this?
TOMMY:
You can’t claim depression and shock after this game.
So you’re on the clock for a thorough post game and day-after analysis.
Did you guys know that a shark does not have one bone in its body. Its skeleton is made up of cartilage. Cartilage is a tough material, like the material that shapes your ear.
You watching QI instead of this terrible game? Good idea.
The only way we get a tackle is if they happen to run into us.
And on that note gentleman, I am offcially shutting the game off! Have a good one fellas!
0 hits on Fitzpatrick so far.
Anyone else furious about that QB sneak play? Unbelievable.
We make Ryan Fitzpatrick look like Joe Montana.
Alex is Montana, Fitzpatrick is Dan Marino.
holy cow…a pick from an LB….talk about blind squirrel
A lb made a freaking play!?!?!??!
That may save the season. I doubt it, but I wanted to make a dramatic post.
way to stay in bounds, Mike…
Just shut up Juan. I don’t want to see you celebrating on the sidelines, even after an INT. 7 yards on a 3rd and 5 QB sneak has taken away your celebration privilages.
You have to be careful of those Eagles LBs, they will hurt you.
Apparently they will hurt the other team once in a blue moon, too.
Mmmm, Blue Moon.
Anyone else’s tv just going blank the past few minutes?
There should be at least two seconds on the clock. What the hell was that?
Unreal, embarrassing, stupid. They don’t trust their kicker. Laughable, pathetic, fire everybody.
Andy you Tard. Unbelievable. Same mistakes over and over again lead to the same results.
Un. F***ing. Believable.
How many terrible clock management decisions has this clown made in his life?
Nice to see Vick’s stupidity costing us points all the way to the end
What are they doing how do you not try a FG!
Don’t they have to review that? They don’t feel like it??
Never mind, they can’t.
Great coaching there. Great decision making by our smart QB. This is classic Reid/McNabb without the winning.
The Bills have a corner named Corner?
And apparently he’s the greatest ever.
I’m so glad I’m not the only who found that funny.
Excellent. Way to capitalize on the interception. Hard to believe Andy Reid doesn’t know how to work a clock.
Well… playing for the season in the second half. We lose, and we’re done. Unless anyone here sees any evidence that we can go 9-2 the rest of the way…
Andy shouldn’t have ran that play
The Swell Shark, found in New Zealand, barks like a dog.
glad my feed is all effed up and came back in time to see we didn’t even get a chance to kick a fg there. awesome. everyone has their collective heads up their rectums today.
Ineptitude.
Ahaha. Aha. Ha. Vick sure is bright.
Normally I’d be screaming at the end of that half, but nothing surprises me this year.
Can’t argue that this team is well coached anymore.
We are absolutely pathetic. AR is a flat out idiot for not just kicking it there. Way to many things could have gone wrong and they did. We needed any momentum swing we could get. Pathetic
Terrible decision.
The worst part is Vick just threw it away. Run the clock down and then just throw it away. At least he could have thrown the ball away since he ran the clock off for no apparent reason.
The Eagles were short 1 time out because Reid blew the last one on the Bills 3rd and 5 play — and then the Eagles came out with a Wide 9 and no one in the middle.
Fitzpatrick runs for a 1st down.
A WASTED!!!!!!! Time out
It’s really sad that I’ve totally lost my passion for this team.
I haven’t lost my passion, but it has transformed to absolute fury. I didn’t think I could be angrier than I was after the Giants game… or the 49ers game… but this is definitely a new low. In all seriousness, pending the inevitable ending to this game, I urge those of you in the greater Philadelphia area to pitchfork-up and storm the Novacare. Someone must be held accountable.
Comedy of errors is our new nickname
why does jarrad page still start?
I’d rather Jimmy Page because Jarrad looks Dazed and Confused.
This is unquestionably the worst Andy Reid team, right?
The past few weeks, after the eagles lost, I was too depressed and angry to watch other games. This week? Fuck that, I’m gonna enjoy the Pats vs Jets, and packers vs the falcons.
Well at least we shouldn’t blow a 4th quarter lead this week
Or have redzone issues.
I wonder if I start rooting for the Bills if that will turn things around? You know, confuse the fates?
The ball hit the ground with 1 second left!!! That happened in the Texas Nebraska game a couple years ago and I dont think the rules are different from college in that when the ball hits the ground incomplete the clock stops immediately, the refs should’ve F’in reviewed that BS
During Fox half-time show, Jimmy Johnson dropped the hammer on Reid —
He said the “O-line coach is coaching the defense and not doing a good job of it.”
That’s one very successful head coach politely saying, “Reid’s an idiot.”
Asante should be benched. Giving up 3rd down pitch and catch slants this year like it’s his job…………………