PHI at DAL – Game Thread
Posted: December 24th, 2011 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 61 Comments »I’ll be around the computer, but not all game long. I’m setting this to start, not knowing the outcome of the Jets game. Fingers crossed.
Must kill Romo. A lot.
Fox needs to flip games over to the Eagles game.
It’s a shame that opening drive went so well and it’s probably pointless.
Safety on Sanchez. Eagles season is over. This game doesn’t even hurt the cowboys if we sh*t on them.
I’m rooting for the Cowboys next week. I despise this Giants team far more than this Cowboys team.
Also, where does this rank on the worst Eagles seasons of the Reid Era? I’m putting it second, behind 2005.
Way worse than 2005. The TO madness and an injured Mcnabb tempered expectations. This team was set up to accomplish a lot more. Plus the winner of the division is probably going to only be 9-7. Had these idiots taken care of business in just 1 of the numerous winnable games they pissed away, they would be in control of their own destiny right now.
I definitely understand that viewpoint. I have 2005 worse because:
1) We just came off a dominating season and a Super Bowl loss. We were poised.
2) The worst Super Bowl winner I can remember, making it a real likelihood that if the 2004 team had shown up we would’ve won.
3) Absolutely demoralizing losses, including the game in Dallas, the ass-whooping by Denver and the embarrassment on MNF.
4) The last, what, month of the season was irrelevant?
Another thing is the embarrassment factor. In 2005 it was tough to blame them, given a hurt Mcnabb and obvious locker room issues. Plenty of valid reasons for a poor season. This year is much more a mess of the Eagles own creation and arrogance.
Well its a shame we’re eliminated. I’m not even caring much about whether we beat the Cowboys or not. Essentially we’re just playing ourselves out of a better draft pick at this point.
As long as we’re not out of range of Kuechly.
And we’re done. Andy’s failure is now complete. Though the Eagles will probably win out so they get the worst possible draft position. In essence they’ll fail at failing
I mean, its not lik we deserved to be in the playoffs this year anyways. Lets pummel the Cowboys and Redskins and end the season with confidence.
Time to sit Vick? What good does a torn ACL do us in what essentially now a pre-season game?
I wouldn’t mind seeing Kafka play a little in the next two games. Right now, the most we can gain from the last two games is seeing what our younger guys and backup players can do. There is not much we gain by seeing Vick playing well against the Cowboys.
I hope they bring back Reid, but if an important player suffers a major injury in one of these now meaningless games, that should be a firing offense.
Rest the starters… We’re playing for draft picks. I know it’s Dallas, but they don’t care if they win this anyway.
I wouldn’t mind resting the offensive starters, but I want this defense to build on things for next year.
I mean, the only reason other than “you play to win the game” is if Andy is fighting for his job… So if you’re Lurie and you don’t plan to fire him, why not call down to the sidelines and tell him to pull Vick? You’ve already blown one season, don’t blow next season already with a pointless injury…
I’m sure Shady wants to win the rushing crown, but there’s no reason to give him snaps.
Tell you what Hunt has been dominating so far in this game, pressure after pressure.
Personally, I’m disgusted by how many of you want to throw in the towel now because we’re eliminated.
SO WHAT.
Not only is this Dallas we’re playing against, but we need to figure out which players are worth keeping around next year.
“Play for a draft pick.” We aren’t the fucking Jacksonville Jaguars.
Yeah, so why play the players that we already know are going to be here next year?
This would be a perfect opportunity to test Kafka. And how about some Dion Lewis?
I’d like to see Kafka and Dion too, but let’s do it when we’ve got a good lead or aren’t likely to come back.
I’d be fine with subbing in Kafka is we’re up 3 scores, for examples.
Amen, brother. Tanking a game for draft position, ESPECIALLY against the Cowboys, is pathetic.
Thank you! Some of you people make me sick.
I’m not talking about throwing in the towel for a draft pick, I’m talking about preserving our starters for next season… A season we’re not currently eliminated from playoff contention.
Personally, I’m disgusted that people can’t seem to understand that. One ACL at this point costs you at least half of next season? If you want to throw in the towel for next season so you can beat the Cowboys this year then all I can say is yikes… Glad you’re not in charge.
Why even bother playing the last two games then? Who knows which one of our backups could emerge to be a Pro Bowler.
Huh? If this is sarcasm I’m not getting it. I’m simply presenting a case to rest the key starters to prevent injury risk for meaningless games (like when you sit starters for the last preseason game). I would enjoy watching backups for evaluation purposes. You’re twisting that logic to suggest that ANY injury would have the same effect which is not true… If you had to have a QB go down with a serious injury, would you rather it be Vick or Kafka? (answer: Vince Young!)
In my opinion, the potential risks of playing these guys outweighs the potential benefits (morale, beating hated rival, etc.). If you feel differently, great, and you don’t need a better reason than you hate the Cowboys, but at least try to understand the logic.
I don’t want to see players get injured either, but you’re setting the tone for next season right now. These players and this coaching staff want to get back to 8-8. None of these players want to sit out so they can see a “better” draft pick come in next season and take their spot.
First, I’m not talking about draft picks… I’m talking about not getting injured.
And I understand the “setting the tone” argument, but I’m positing that Vick getting injured would set a far worse tone than kicking ass these next two games would set a positive tone. In other words, the cost-benefit doesn’t add up to me for this team. If Vick were 24 maybe it would, but he’s not, so in my opinion it’s not worth the risk.
In short: Cowboys suck.
I understand arguing that you want to beat the Cowboys because it is the Cowboys, but there is no way you are setting the tone for next year in these games. By the time training camp and preseason are done next season, no one is thinking about the last two meaningless games of the previous season.
Agreed. These are the Cowboys. Bring me the head of Rob Ryan!
Minus the hair, of course.
Essentially, everything that went wrong this season has been the result of mental problems, and problems of mettle. Ending the season with a 4-game winning streak would go a long way in healing some of those wounds before we attack the 2012 season. And, simply put, if the Colts and Vikings can maintain their integrity and play to win even though Andrew Luck is on the line, then I think the Eagles can give their best against 2 division rivals to finish an even 8-8.
I wonder if Rex Ryan will be available next season as a DC?
SIT THE STARTERS! There are bigger issues at play here then winning this game. I hate being a Henny Penny but the bad far outweighs the good here…
Maclin seems to be prone to random injuries.
He’s a massive vagine. Always hurt.
Why do the eagles always have to covet the most fragile guys in the NFL
Kafka to start the second half would be good. The Cowboys have nothing to play for here either, this isn’t really a meaningful game for either team.
There’s a touchback. Another wasted red zone trip this year. haha
I gotta say as bad as this season has been, 2005 was definitely worse. I mean 2005 was a circus, with the T.O. situation, all the injuries, and the expectations were sky high for that team as well coming off a super bowl appearance. Plus we had to watch Mike Mcmahon for half a year, I mean wtf?
I guess you can look at it either way though. This year, we didn’t have the excuses of the T.O situation or the injuries but started the season with extremely high expectations. The one excuse we have for this season is the shortened offseason, but that’s something every team dealt with, so the only difference there was how we approached the shortened offseason compared to other teams.
Add in inexperienced DC and multiple FA’s and position coaches to the excuse list. Personally, every losing season has its own charm for me… This one hit its true nadir for me in Seattle… Though Buffalo felt like it at the time.
Thanks a lot Steve, I thought I had successfully blocked him out of my memory. Even mentally revisiting 2005, I forgot about the horrors of Mike McMahon.
Its better to get your repressed memories out in the open and confront them head on. The trauma is past my friend, we can move on.
Eagles don’t even deserve to win this game
That Jerome Simpson play was crazy.
With the way the defense has looked these past few weeks I’m thinking Castillo deserves another shot next year, it’s now been 2 and a half games in a row that this defense has looked good. Give him a full offseason and maybe they will keep this up through next year.
These negative comments make me sick. Quit living up to the stereotype of a Philly fan. I’m not saying you should be overly optimistic. It’s funny, and sad at the same time, that some of you think you could be a better coach or GM or scout evaluator or owner. Maybe when you save up a few billion dollars you can have your own team and bench all of your starters when the season seems to be over. Sure, this season has gotten away from us but have you seen the progress this team has made this year? You’re the type of people that, on a dropped pass, you yell “my grandma could have caught that”, when in all reality she would have shit her pants trying to make a cut. All I ask is just be fair. If they’re playing well, enjoy it. But no, they’re doing well and instead we should tank this game for a better draft pick? Are you kidding me? If we have future pro bowlers sitting the bench, then maybe they should beat out the starter and earn playing time. You guys have no clue, seriously. To everyone else, go Eagles! And Merry Christmas!
I can’t speak for the “tank the game for draft picks people” but for those that don’t want to lose next season before it starts because Demarcus Ware plants Vick into the ground and destroys what’s left of his ribs it’s not as simple as “negativity” which you seem to be painting the discussion as.
I’m simply saying I don’t want to see your grandmother out there running routes next season because Maclin gets crushed in a pointless game… And – like it or not – this game is pointless. You can argue the “momentum” or “set the tone” points if you want, but don’t label people as having “no clue” because they wish to preserve our assets for next season rather than sell out to beat the Cowboys or “finish strong.”. Would you rather – if it came to it – finish strong and lose a few starters for a chunk of next season, or potentially finish strong and preserve your starters for next season? If you’d prefer the latter I don’t think that makes you a negative fan.
Nobody in the history of any sport has ever rested their players for next year. It’s not even real logic. Where does it stop? Do you not allow them to participate in offseason workouts, so the they don’t get hurt? How about training camp? Rest them there too? Preseason games? Injuries are a part of the sport. And anyone will tell you, as soon as you start trying to avoid them you will get them. This is their job and this is how they make a living. You pay the players to go out and play. You think you can tell these players to sit, when in all reality it’s their stats that get them paid? Fail.
Probably shouldn’t let players out of their houses in the offseason, either. Better yet, confine them to the NovaCare complex. It’s a dangerous world out there.
Yes. Totally. The risk for injury during the offseason is identical to the risk for injury during an NFL game. Solid.
All I am saying is that IF we lost a key player to injury for NEXT season during a meaningless game this season it would suddenly seem pretty stupid, don’t you think? Or you saying no? Winning the last two games is more important?
“fail.”. Thanks for responding to logic with a well-reasoned rebuttal. The goal is to win a Super Bowl, correct? Well, not gonna happen is year, and it seems difficult to do that if you lose your franchise QB and running back (let’s say… Did you feel good when you saw #25 getting carted off?).
I give up on rational discussion… Thought that’s what this blog was for.
No 2nd half thread, no comments… anyone worried that Tommy is standing on the side of a bridge right now?
Oh man Tommy is not gonna be happy with that ending. Bye bye shutout thanks to the umpteenth blocked punt of the year.
The future looks bright for this team, they are playing hard and coming together as a team despite not having much to play for. Next year will be a good one, and all this team needs is a few tweaks here and there. Finally I say keep Castillo, what he has done these last few weeks speaks louder than what he did in his first games coaching defense in the NFL.
Juan can keep a position where th players can benefit from his hard work and good coaching, but he is not a guy to run a defense YET. Maybe after a couple of years under Spags, Del Rio go whoever we hopefully hire, he has developed.
Someone make sure Tommy is alive?
I just spotted him living the local Value Mart with a 30 pack of PBR and some chocolate pudding, we’re good.
“we’re good” LMAO.