PHI 21, NE 21 – 2nd Half Thread

Posted: August 15th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 360 Comments »

What a bizarre 1st half. Tons of penalties. The Eagles only running a handful of plays in the 1st Qtr. And now a tie game. Nick Foles posted good numbers, but his play still isn’t as crisp as I’d like. Mark Sanchez looked terrific. Zach Ertz looks great. Jordan Matthews woke up and looks good.

As for the defense…awful early, but getting better.

_


360 Comments on “PHI 21, NE 21 – 2nd Half Thread”

  1. 1 ICDogg said at 9:19 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    here we go

  2. 2 Ark87 said at 9:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wish it were the starting D getting better, sadly it’s just that the first string left the field and suddenly it’s watchable

  3. 3 SteveH said at 9:21 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    How is it possible that the score is tied? I feel like we got bludgeoned to death.

  4. 4 ICDogg said at 9:22 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    It just goes to show the importance of special teams.

    /trite homer announcer answer

  5. 5 Mitchell said at 9:21 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Shame on you Tommy for not mentioning Momah!

  6. 6 shah8 said at 9:22 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    The ball was out egregiously late on some his throws. The St Louis Rams ain’t the Patriots, they are in the regular season, and this is preseason. This is exactly the time to cut loose, read, and throw, and get his act down.

  7. 7 SteveH said at 9:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    EGREGIOUSLY!

  8. 8 BC1968 said at 9:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    BRB gonna google

  9. 9 Mitchell said at 9:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He isn’t as slow as last week though.

  10. 10 BC1968 said at 9:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I thought he started to settle down in the pocket during the last two drives actually.

  11. 11 shah8 said at 9:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That fumble by Momah, was in small part because Foles did a double or triple hitch before throwing, and threw it too low. Momah should clean it up, but it did not help. Totally on target and that never happens.

  12. 12 mksp said at 9:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    You have no idea which read Momah is on that play though.

  13. 13 SteveH said at 9:27 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    YES HE DOES AND IT IS FOLES’ FAULT.

  14. 14 BC1968 said at 9:27 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I said the last two drives, I’d rather see things getting better as we go forward than worrying about how it started.

  15. 15 mksp said at 9:24 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Came out right on time on the TD to Ertz. Thrown before he turned around.

  16. 16 Ark87 said at 9:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    His starting recievers are Momah, Benn, and Maehl, some futile reads in there, Momah’s actually done a good job getting open, kinda impressed

  17. 17 shah8 said at 9:27 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Remember, I’m anti-Foles, now. There are reasons why I’m anti-Foles, and I want him better at the stuff he irritates me on.

  18. 18 anon said at 9:48 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    sanchez has no issues gunning passes. actually excited to watch him play.

  19. 19 RobNE said at 9:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I know TOP doesn’t matter, but when the D was on the field for the first 10 minutes, and we run a 3 and out in 25 seconds it kills me.

  20. 20 ICDogg said at 9:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yeah, that was the preseason equivalent of soul-crushing

  21. 21 RobNE said at 9:29 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Couldn’t they run the 4 minute offense when that happens?

  22. 22 GEAGLE said at 9:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I like the 5 for 5 in redzone trips this PS

  23. 23 Mitchell said at 9:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So hawt.

  24. 24 Mitchell said at 9:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Gj Barkley you shithead.

  25. 25 Mitchell said at 9:27 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Jk it was Sanchize. Used to barkley screwing up.

  26. 26 ICDogg said at 9:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    ugh

  27. 27 Crus57 said at 9:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Looks like someone told Johnson that he’s not going to outrun anyone going sideline to sideline

  28. 28 shah8 said at 9:27 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    gawd. Sanchez gonna sanchez. He’s only so good a QB if he doesn’t have to really process.

  29. 29 anon said at 9:47 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    i’m not sure what that means.

  30. 30 SteveH said at 9:28 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Still throwing at Marsh, lol.

  31. 31 ICDogg said at 9:28 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    he can use the work

  32. 32 GEAGLE said at 9:28 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Pigeon

  33. 33 Ark87 said at 9:29 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I WANNA ROC!

  34. 34 GEAGLE said at 9:30 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That desperate huh?

    Should have traded marsh on Wednesday lol

  35. 35 Ark87 said at 9:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    lol, boy was I wrong, definitely doesn’t belong anywhere near a field with starters on it, hanging in there with the back ups, but that’s as far as he is right now.

  36. 36 SteveH said at 9:29 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Jesus, gotta go get another PBR out of the fridge… YOU’RE MURDERING ME, EAGLES DEFENSE.

  37. 37 anon said at 9:46 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    don’t worry by the time you get back pats will have scored again. i have a feeling this is what our games will look like.

  38. 38 Mitchell said at 9:29 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Smith with the pressure. Was it his job to contain the outside or is it just a matter of NO ONE thinking Mallet will run?

  39. 39 sonofdman said at 9:30 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nice pressure, but he got pushed wide of the QB really easily.

  40. 40 BC1968 said at 9:30 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Mallet partied in the back was all business in the front. Oh god that was terrible

  41. 41 Mitchell said at 9:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    You’re drunk, go home.

  42. 42 BC1968 said at 9:32 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I’m drunk and at home.

  43. 43 GEAGLE said at 9:33 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Rocked out with his cock out

  44. 44 RobNE said at 9:30 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    well unlike the players we commenters are in mid-season form and ready to go

  45. 45 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Run the damn ball, Andy!!!

    Yep, still works.

  46. 46 Ark87 said at 9:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    52, you’re cut

  47. 47 Crus57 said at 9:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Our D has decided that they are going to correct the imbalance in time of possession one way or the other

  48. 48 Mitchell said at 9:32 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Must be nice to kick touchbacks.

  49. 49 ICDogg said at 9:32 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Sanchez getting another shot

  50. 50 Mitchell said at 9:32 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Matthews having a nice game. Any drops by him yet?

  51. 51 GEAGLE said at 9:33 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Was wondering when we would start getting him going with the screens

  52. 52 ICDogg said at 9:33 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Josey vs the Pussycats

  53. 53 SteveH said at 9:33 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Whew, Josey looks fast.

  54. 54 Mitchell said at 9:34 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Our RB’s are looking pretty damn good imo.

  55. 55 Mitchell said at 9:34 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    MATTHEWS AGAIN!

  56. 56 GEAGLE said at 9:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    “He’s heating up”

    NBA Jam rules say that 3 in a row warrants “he’s on fire”…

  57. 57 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:34 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    OK. I like that from Matthews. The anti-Maclin.

  58. 58 SteveH said at 9:35 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Mathews and Sanchez making their connection.

  59. 59 Mitchell said at 9:35 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    so hawt.

  60. 60 Crus57 said at 9:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Mathez? Sanchews?

  61. 61 Mitchell said at 9:35 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    This drives looks exactly like Matthews at Vandy lol.

  62. 62 GEAGLE said at 9:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Really happy for Rejus.. Dude been busting his ass rehabbing for years. All that hard work rehabbing and he barely ever got to play the game… Nice to see him have some good luck, even if it’s just for today

  63. 63 Mitchell said at 9:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Momah gave him that td.

  64. 64 GEAGLE said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He wanted to demonstrate his willingness to Sacrafice for the team 😉

  65. 65 SteveH said at 9:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Here we go Matthews, GET EM.

  66. 66 Mitchell said at 9:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    OMG DAMARIS SIGHTING!

  67. 67 SteveH said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Waste of a rep, lol.

  68. 68 Mitchell said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    lol I know, so sad.

  69. 69 Mitchell said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    It was basically a good play design because the LB got caught in the wash of the WR running drags across the formation.

  70. 70 sonofdman said at 9:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Patriots announcer implied that it would have worked in the regular season because the Pats would have game planned for it. LOL

  71. 71 Mitchell said at 9:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He is such a butter face.;

  72. 72 A_T_G said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That play was created for Sproles. Gotta be.

  73. 73 Mitchell said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    See my comment below, Totes agree.

  74. 74 sonofdman said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nice looking play.

  75. 75 shah8 said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    TD pass by Sanchez is a better throw than it might look to some.

  76. 76 SteveH said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yes, those dirty peasants among us can’t appreciate what happened there.

  77. 77 shah8 said at 9:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    On target, thrown before Johnson even looks back for it, etc…

  78. 78 Mitchell said at 9:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Thats how Foles’ throw to Ertz was.

  79. 79 shah8 said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    huh? The one against Chung?

  80. 80 Mitchell said at 9:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nope nevermind, that was the one where Ertz boxed him out.

  81. 81 mksp said at 9:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    was thrown before Ertz turned around tho.

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Lolz

  83. 83 A_T_G said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Why do you assume we aren’t savvy enough to tell?

  84. 84 shah8 said at 9:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    If “some” doesn’t refer to you, then it’s not about you.

  85. 85 sonofdman said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So “some” refers to a straw man, right?

  86. 86 A_T_G said at 9:43 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Do you think the “some” are capable of watching the game and reading comments at the same time? I hope they don’t forget to listen to their bladder in their distracted state.

  87. 87 RobNE said at 9:43 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    too late 🙁

  88. 88 GEAGLE said at 9:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Show some damn respect when addressing “the QB whisperer”

  89. 89 SteveH said at 9:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:
  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 9:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Lol basically..

  91. 91 Ark87 said at 9:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Liking Josey, just don’t like him with Shady and Sproles, need a bigger guy in Polk

  92. 92 jshort said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    PS

  93. 93 GEAGLE said at 9:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Maybe.. I like Fluellen too… Fluellen vs. Jose, winner gets practice squad?

  94. 94 Mitchell said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    good news is, they both look pretty good. Really liking out RB depth right now and I was worried about it previously.

  95. 95 GEAGLE said at 9:43 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yeah at this point I’m under the impression that Chip knows running backs…

  96. 96 Anders said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Why? Shady is big enough to be 3 down back, why do we need a big back?

  97. 97 Ark87 said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Is Chip using Damaris like DAT?

  98. 98 Anders said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He was lined up was a HB there

  99. 99 ICDogg said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He was short of running backs this week

  100. 100 nopain23 said at 9:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    sanchez looks so comfortable in this offense..wow

  101. 101 RobNE said at 9:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Did Teddy Bruschi, who I assume had an agent and financial advisor etc., never have life insurance until after his heart problems and he learned of SBLI? Because that seems really unlikely to me.

  102. 102 Ark87 said at 9:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    that’s my boy…

  103. 103 RobNE said at 9:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Bryce Brown looking lighter and faster this year. j/k

  104. 104 SteveH said at 9:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Will I be forced to consume a 5th PBR? TBD.

  105. 105 ICDogg said at 9:44 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    yup

  106. 106 SteveH said at 9:44 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    When I die of alcohol poisoning, somebody be sure to implicate Curtis Marsh.

  107. 107 Mitchell said at 9:44 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z.

  108. 108 Ark87 said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    did NOT see that reference coming

  109. 109 Mitchell said at 9:46 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    trololol

  110. 110 Mitchell said at 9:43 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Billy is going to have to dial up some extremely exotic blitzes this year.

  111. 111 Ark87 said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    yes, going to need some brilliant schemes haha

  112. 112 ICDogg said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That was pathetic

  113. 113 Mitchell said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Anyone seeing anything from Wolffe?

  114. 114 GEAGLE said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ran the ball right at BG…

    Did long get first half snaps, but BG didn’t get in til 2nd half?

  115. 115 Mitchell said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I definatley saw Long in the first half..

  116. 116 A_T_G said at 9:47 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wasn’t it Long that left the FB uncovered on the TD?

  117. 117 Mitchell said at 9:47 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Thats how I remembered he was in there lol.

  118. 118 GEAGLE said at 9:47 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yeh I saw long, but did you see BG get first half snaps?

  119. 119 Mitchell said at 9:48 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    not that I recall no, Not sure though.

  120. 120 GEAGLE said at 9:49 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I didn’t either

    Smh we complaining about pressure but allergic to put BG in the game

  121. 121 Mitchell said at 9:51 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I mean I get more pressure when I dunk my head underwater. HAHA

  122. 122 anon said at 9:53 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    think you saw why

  123. 123 GEAGLE said at 10:00 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Hey I’m the one that been taking a lot of heat for suggesting that we could very well end up cutting BG and keeping Long…not sure if it will happen, but bigger possibility than people think

  124. 124 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    O/U at 85

  125. 125 A_T_G said at 9:46 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Is that just for NE’s points?

  126. 126 Ark87 said at 9:47 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Don’t worry, Barkley should be coming in soon.

  127. 127 SteveH said at 9:48 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Well… at least Williams pick sixed the Pats. So the night isn’t a total loss.

  128. 128 Ark87 said at 9:49 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Dude isn’t even hurt, he’s just like, yep I can go ahead and retire now

  129. 129 GEAGLE said at 9:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Was thinking same thing

  130. 130 ICDogg said at 9:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    do some home decor shopping

  131. 131 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:49 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Oh, he was down.

  132. 132 Iskar36 said at 9:50 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ugh…. make it stop.

  133. 133 Mitchell said at 9:50 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That was pathetic.

  134. 134 GEAGLE said at 9:51 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Good for u Momah lovers

  135. 135 Mitchell said at 9:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    at this point, idk how you would keep Maehl over Benn or Momah.

  136. 136 GEAGLE said at 9:53 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Today it’s Benn > Mo > Maehl… But plenty of time left to make a play, or botch a play

  137. 137 Mitchell said at 9:54 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I still think Benn and Mo are at least even, Benn got the punt block but momah has been much better getting open on O.

  138. 138 GEAGLE said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Tru… Plus Momah has the upside and untapped potential as a tie breaker…

    Mo was also seriously competing with Long, marsh! square and Mo and Benn are probabky playing better than most of the fringe players they competing with

  139. 139 Mitchell said at 9:58 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    totally agree there.

  140. 140 GEAGLE said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Damaris was playing well, but he oissed it away

  141. 141 RobNE said at 9:50 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I continue to think we have a better chance against NFC teams than the Broncos or Pats, who would just slowly pick apart D to death.

  142. 142 scratcherk said at 9:50 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Do I hate Friendly’s now?

  143. 143 ICDogg said at 9:51 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    “You’ve got Maehl”.

  144. 144 SteveH said at 9:51 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Looks like it was out. I love the fact that Jeff Maehl might make this team.

  145. 145 Ark87 said at 9:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    MomahvBennvMaehl, Maehl’s way way down on that list for me, Chip loves him though, just have to live with it I guess haha

  146. 146 Mitchell said at 9:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He won’t after this game, he would need some really good stuff coming up.

  147. 147 jshort said at 9:51 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Benn could be in.

  148. 148 ICDogg said at 9:53 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    helped himself today

  149. 149 sonofdman said at 9:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    SteveH, I hope you are ready for another PBR!

  150. 150 SteveH said at 9:53 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    BRING IT ON! IM ALMOST 5 DEEP ALREADY!!!

  151. 151 scratcherk said at 9:53 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Man Jason Phillips just had the most pathetic tackle attempt..

  152. 152 Crus57 said at 9:54 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    How do you get juked when you’re in the hole? there’s nowhere to be juked *to*..

  153. 153 scratcherk said at 9:54 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    On the topic, I didnt realize he was white until this year…

  154. 154 scratcherk said at 9:55 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Oh wait, maybe that was it.

  155. 155 Ark87 said at 9:55 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He’s now having a good showing

  156. 156 A_T_G said at 9:53 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So, Spuds mentioned 5 spots set, Maehl, Benn, and Damarius?

    Ruh-row Romah…

  157. 157 Mitchell said at 9:55 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He said Damaris is in? Huh?

  158. 158 A_T_G said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    No, he mentioned those three competing for a possible last spot. He didn’t mention Momah at all.

  159. 159 Mitchell said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Thats cause Momah is already in HAHA!

  160. 160 anon said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    hahahahaahhahaah i can’t even respect the FO if that’s the case.

  161. 161 sonofdman said at 9:54 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That was some pathetic tackling

  162. 162 A_T_G said at 9:54 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Kurt Coleman unable to bring him down at the end there.

  163. 163 SteveH said at 9:55 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    ROFL! MARSH!

  164. 164 Ark87 said at 9:56 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    and Wolffe, both awful angles

  165. 165 scratcherk said at 9:56 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Maybe Marsh and Carmichael can carry each others bags out of hte locker room

  166. 166 scratcherk said at 9:56 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    We REALLY need Carroll healthy…

  167. 167 Anders said at 9:59 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    or maybe just not overreact to the 6th CB on the depthchart?

  168. 168 scratcherk said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Who do you think the dime corner would be if Carroll is not healthy

  169. 169 ICDogg said at 9:56 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marshmallow

  170. 170 RobNE said at 9:56 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marsh doesn’t get on the plane. Amtrak ticket only. Not the Acela either, the local.

  171. 171 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Megabus

  172. 172 ICDogg said at 9:58 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ah hell, one of those buses they have in Chinatown… we used to call them the “Egg Roll Express”

  173. 173 A_T_G said at 10:00 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    …headed north west.

  174. 174 ICDogg said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Greyhound

  175. 175 Crus57 said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    An actual greyhound.

  176. 176 RobNE said at 9:58 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Fung Wah, no Greyhound bus for him.

  177. 177 Anders said at 9:59 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    What about Maehl who fumbled?

  178. 178 Crus57 said at 10:00 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Post him back?

  179. 179 scratcherk said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Williams, Fletcher, Carroll, Boykin, Watkins is stomach-able

  180. 180 Mitchell said at 10:00 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yeh betther than having Roc as the DB of the bench. Even if Marsh does suck we still should be better there than last year.

  181. 181 Iskar36 said at 9:57 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Patriots announcer: “Ryan Mallett looked right over at Tims…”
    Reality: “Ryan Mallett looked right over to Marsh”

  182. 182 Ark87 said at 9:59 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    It’s brutal, It’s like Belichick huddled everyone up before the game, “we must destroy this man”

    ” But coach Roc is right over the-”

    “SWEEP THE LEGS!”

  183. 183 SteveH said at 9:59 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Steps to getting paid as an NFL quarterback:

    Step 1: Find #31.
    Step 2: Throw at #31.
    Step 3: Profit.

  184. 184 Crus57 said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    2a: If you can’t find #31, throw at #21

  185. 185 Mitchell said at 10:00 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    LOL how could Damaris ever be in consideration for a spot on this roster.

  186. 186 BC1968 said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Hey guys what’s up? Are they still playing football?

  187. 187 anon said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    yeah but you don’t want to watch

  188. 188 scratcherk said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    not really..

  189. 189 anon said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    damaris johnson just lost his spot. i’m ok with that. over or under 2 minutes until pats score?

  190. 190 ICDogg said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Demerit for Damaris

  191. 191 Insomniac said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Momah’s a lock now. Damaris, Marsh, Carmichael, Phillips, and maybe even Long are on the chopping block.

  192. 192 SteveH said at 10:01 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Roc Carmichael sightinging. Just got away with a PI.

  193. 193 Mitchell said at 10:02 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Kruger sighting as well.

  194. 194 Ark87 said at 10:02 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Kinda feel bad for Barkley bad, dude’s throwing the right passes, but his O won’t let him stay on the field.

  195. 195 GEAGLE said at 10:04 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Feel bad for BG. Disrespectful not playing him in first half when you gave all the second team defense Some snaps

  196. 196 GEAGLE said at 10:02 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Second play Krugs made

  197. 197 anon said at 10:03 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    bg with a sack, unblocked. no threat.

  198. 198 Mitchell said at 10:03 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    first sack on the night and it was on a blown blocking asignment…

  199. 199 scratcherk said at 10:03 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    How the hell did that happen..

  200. 200 A_T_G said at 10:03 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Who is this Graham guy? We should give him a look as a pass rusher.

  201. 201 sonofdman said at 10:04 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I think I hear once that he a had a great motor and would be a great “fastball”

  202. 202 Anders said at 10:05 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Pretty sure I can pass rush in the NFL if I wasnt blocked

  203. 203 Mitchell said at 10:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Its said that that is the only sack we have gotten.

  204. 204 anon said at 10:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    they don’t even bother blocking him anymore.

  205. 205 ICDogg said at 10:03 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    flag on the play

  206. 206 SteveH said at 10:04 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    No one realized he dropped it.

  207. 207 ICDogg said at 10:05 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    flag on every play

  208. 208 A_T_G said at 10:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    It might be better if the announcer just point out when there isn’t one.

  209. 209 GEAGLE said at 10:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    It’s absurd,, game is unwatchable like this

  210. 210 SteveH said at 10:05 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Holding on Detwan Lowe of the Eagles…………………. who?

  211. 211 ICDogg said at 10:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Send these uniforms back to Kmart

  212. 212 scratcherk said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Never understood the hate of the black jerseys… whats the deal?

  213. 213 ICDogg said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I don’t mind that they’re black, I hate the teal details

  214. 214 scratcherk said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Shrug, I always liked them. But most people dont. just curious.

  215. 215 ICDogg said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    The black ones they had in the past, were OK, but not my favorites. But these? Ugly.

  216. 216 Ark87 said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    The alternative uniform needs to just be yellow, maybe the flags will get lost and refs will forget they threw them

  217. 217 ICDogg said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Steelers throwback bumblebee uniforms

  218. 218 Crus57 said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Also a hint of Oregon then.

  219. 219 Insomniac said at 10:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Did Matthews beat up on the second stringers? I stopped watching for a quarter.

  220. 220 GEAGLE said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Gonna have a 10 catch 100 yard game

  221. 221 Anders said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Against 2nd and 3rd stringers and 10 catches for 100 yards is a good average for a RB, not a WR

  222. 222 GEAGLE said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Keep hating on players in there second NFL game…

    Sure you write about how much Demeco sucked every summer

  223. 223 Anders said at 9:19 AM on August 16th, 2014:

    Actually I was defending Demeco last year and just saying 10 for 100 is not good, 9 for 104 is actually a very good average for a slot WR (funny how little difference there is between bad and good right?)

  224. 224 Mitchell said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    huh? its pretty damn good regardless.

  225. 225 GEAGLE said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He just a silly Jordan hater

  226. 226 Anders said at 10:11 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nah, just saying 10 yards per catch is less than what TEs average

  227. 227 Insomniac said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That’s pretty average for a possession receiver though. TJ Housmanzadah didn’t have huge YPR.

  228. 228 Mitchell said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yeh, fine with me, if he is open give it to him. the more catches the more chances for a play.

  229. 229 GEAGLE said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Lol didmt realize he already had 9 catches 100 yards LOL

  230. 230 Mitchell said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yes he did, played well.

  231. 231 SteveH said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Matthewzzz

  232. 232 Mitchell said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Matthews is gonna get over 100 yrds?

  233. 233 RobNE said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    why Sanchez playing not Barkley?

  234. 234 RobNE said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    sorry, stupid announcers

  235. 235 Iskar36 said at 10:07 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wow, that was ugly from Barkley.

  236. 236 anon said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    josey needs to make the team

  237. 237 Andy124 said at 12:02 AM on August 16th, 2014:

    You just love anyone wearing #34 🙂

  238. 238 SteveH said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I like the way Josey runs. I like him better than Tucker. I like Fluellen better than Tucker too.

  239. 239 Insomniac said at 10:08 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Josey kinda reminds me of Warrick Dunn.

  240. 240 sonofdman said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Direct quote from Kempski’s chat yesterday about Tucker:

    “Tucker will be … the next Jim Brown.”

    I may have taken out some unimportant stuff in the middle.

  241. 241 RobNE said at 10:11 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    missing words: never mistaken for?

  242. 242 sonofdman said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    If was actually something like:

    “Tucker will be the fourth running back. Noone is saying he will be the next Jim Brown.”

    I thought it was funnier my way.

  243. 243 RobNE said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    are the first cuts after this game or the 3rd game?

  244. 244 SteveH said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wonder how many penalties we can get on the same play.

  245. 245 Crus57 said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Bet you’re glad you’re not drinking for each flag.

  246. 246 SteveH said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    My stomache would explode before I died of alcohol poisoning.

  247. 247 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:09 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Maia can flag me anytime.

  248. 248 nopain23 said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    ROTFL!!!!!!!

  249. 249 Iskar36 said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Oh god damn it!

  250. 250 Iskar36 said at 10:11 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Oh, ok… never mind.

  251. 251 scratcherk said at 10:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I hope Matthews ends up being great. I never got a wow factor from him watching his games at Vandy or in preseason. Seems solid but not overly athletic. I like the guy but just sayin.

  252. 252 sonofdman said at 10:11 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Did they just call a penalty on Jerome Brown?

  253. 253 RobNE said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Jonesy!!!

  254. 254 Iskar36 said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I know it doesn’t count with the penalty, but was that tipped or did Matthews drop it?

  255. 255 anon said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    tipped

  256. 256 FairOaks said at 10:13 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I’m not sure they bothered to show a replay. I had the same question.

  257. 257 A_T_G said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wow, nice run.

  258. 258 anon said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    josey better be on the team, mccoy, sproles, josey.

  259. 259 A_T_G said at 10:13 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That is my hope.

  260. 260 GEAGLE said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Don’t you think we need some size instead of having a bunch of similar backs?

  261. 261 anon said at 10:15 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    polk is big. sproles is small. mccoy median size. it’s like 3 little bears.

  262. 262 A_T_G said at 10:16 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I never understood that mindset. I want my backup to be able to run the same plays as the starter. If McCoy is out for a few games, I want a guy with similar traits.

  263. 263 GEAGLE said at 10:19 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ok that’s cool… But do you really want 3 similar RBs? Doesn’t every stable of RBs need some thunder AND lightning?
    ..
    Keep 3 backs, ATleast one has to be stylistically different than the other…no?…
    .
    Then again, in our case I don’t think it matters. Think Chip really likes Polk, and Polk will have a major edge over tuck,Jose and Fluellem in that Polk is a badass on ST

  264. 264 Anders said at 9:24 AM on August 16th, 2014:

    Why do you need the big blowing RB? Josey showed he had no problem in short yardage and McCoy has zero problem, it all depends on the OL

  265. 265 Iskar36 said at 10:17 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I guess it depends on what you want the 3rd RB’s role to be. Is he part of the rotation as a change of pace, or is he a backup to your starter. If he is the former, you prefer to have a different size, but if it is the latter, having a similar back means you don’t have to tweak your offense as much.

  266. 266 GEAGLE said at 10:13 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Polk, Tucker are prob both ahead of him… Expect Jose and Fluellen to compete for practice squad

  267. 267 anon said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    think josey is better than tucker based on 2 games. will be interesting to see in week 4 pre season game.

  268. 268 scratcherk said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I think Polk is def ahead of him. Maybe he could be a fourth RB though

  269. 269 Insomniac said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    My man Josey is going to make the squad.

  270. 270 scratcherk said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Josey making the best of the opportunity.

  271. 271 SteveH said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    This Josey kid… is going to earn his way onto a roster somewhere.

  272. 272 GEAGLE said at 10:12 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I can’t take the flags.. If I was Chip I would just tell the refs not to call anything against the Pats.. Rather let our opponent get away with whatever than to play football with a two flags being thrown every 3 plays,.. Enough

  273. 273 Eric Carranza said at 10:13 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nice run there for the td

  274. 274 RobNE said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    ok it’s nice to feel better than expected about at least one player than before the game. Josey is that guy for me.

  275. 275 Mitchell said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marsh is that guy for me……. oh wait.

  276. 276 RobNE said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    of course it’s a problem when I’m most excited about the guy who could, maybe, be the 4th RB

  277. 277 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:15 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Momah.

  278. 278 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I set the O/U too low.

  279. 279 Ark87 said at 10:19 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    way too low

  280. 280 Nicodemus_09 said at 10:14 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ow. Yay.Well, it sure SOUNDS like we took a hell of a drubbing. 🙁 and Cary Williams hamstring has Mr VERY worried. I’m really nervous now between him & the ticking Tim injury of our receivers! Not GOOD boys. Officially adjusting expectations now. Did ANYONE play well at all??!!

  281. 281 RobNE said at 10:16 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Josey. Matthews played better. Ertz Ertzed.

  282. 282 Nicodemus_09 said at 10:27 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Well that certainly helps. I’ll say this though, if Maclin and Cooper have nagging injuries I think we HAVE to tweak the O’ & use the heck out of Sproles, Shady & run 2 TE sets to make up for it. If we are runnin Mathews etc all as our primaries, they’ll certainly be our last options bro. : /

  283. 283 RobNE said at 10:36 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ertz is our best weapon no matter who is healthy.

  284. 284 Nicodemus_09 said at 11:54 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Well that’s a big plus. I’m still hopeful that Cooper will be OK. But Maclin, with the Hammy, the constant icing of his knee, & his highly limited training camp & now limited pre season games to work with Foles, I’ve had this nagging feeling that he is a big unjust time bomb. Without those two & the receivers behind him, if this continues this course we are going to rely HEAVILY on Ertz, Celek, maybe Casey, Sproles & Shady to make this offense goes. MAYBE Mathews if he cures the drops. Which was a big problem for him in college. Along with he struggled in the NCAA gaining seperation. I DON’T want to jump the gun man, but if the chips don’t fall favorably for us, chip will HAVE to tweak this O’ ALLOT from last year. Thank the football gods that he’s the man to to do it!!! : ) Color me tentative & nervous bro…..

  285. 285 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:16 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Have another PBR.

  286. 286 SteveH said at 10:19 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Seriously. I’m not nervous at all. In fact I don’t really feel anything.

  287. 287 RobNE said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    were they tallboys?

  288. 288 SteveH said at 10:21 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nah, I’m not sturdy enough to withstand that much alcohol. 6 cans is enough to put me in a good place.

  289. 289 Mitchell said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Go to the hospital.

  290. 290 Mitchell said at 10:16 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Momah, Foles, Matthews.

  291. 291 RobNE said at 10:15 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Bruschi 2nd comment: all the football players lose 50+ pounds the year they leave….but I’m sure it’s just because they aren’t working out as much.

  292. 292 ICDogg said at 10:16 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Microsoft tablets…. no wonder we’re trailing

  293. 293 anon said at 10:18 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    we looking at over / under 120 pts? is this the kind of football that people want to see?

  294. 294 anon said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marsh almost got hit again. i think every pass td has been on him.

  295. 295 Nicodemus_09 said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Nyone 1uestioning that againnI pray someone could give me a silver lining. Because I am starting to expect this team to. Come crashing back to earth.we. ARE going to rue the day Chip jettisoned D Ajax. I hoped we wouldn’t, but Riley & Maclin banged up, is going to HURT BAD. : (

  296. 296 Mitchell said at 10:21 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    You’re drunk, go home.

  297. 297 RobNE said at 10:21 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Did D Jax play defense? Because that is the problem.

  298. 298 ICDogg said at 10:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Silver lining: you didn’t buy tickets to this game

  299. 299 ICDogg said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Izel Marsh

  300. 300 sonofdman said at 10:21 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Yep

  301. 301 jshort said at 10:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Been thinking that most of the night

  302. 302 scratcherk said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I just feel bad for Marsh at this point

  303. 303 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:20 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    The Curtis March show on the outside.

  304. 304 Mitchell said at 10:22 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    WTH did Graham do that he is delegated to the 4th team?

  305. 305 scratcherk said at 10:22 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Drank Chip’s smoothie.

  306. 306 Anders said at 9:22 AM on August 16th, 2014:

    cant cover and/or Kelly just wanted to see Long against 1st string

  307. 307 ICDogg said at 10:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Villanueva sighting

  308. 308 Mitchell said at 10:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Villanueva with the SAC LUNCH.

  309. 309 Iskar36 said at 10:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marcus Smith almost looks like he stops at times when he engages the OT on a pass rush.

  310. 310 Mitchell said at 10:24 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I know, is he just playing run ALL the time?

  311. 311 ICDogg said at 10:23 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Gostkowski doing his Henery imitation

  312. 312 RobNE said at 10:24 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    they should cut him

  313. 313 Ark87 said at 10:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    please please please cut him

  314. 314 Anders said at 9:21 AM on August 16th, 2014:

    I found it very funny how much negative reaction Eagles fans on twitter had against Henery’s miss, but not a single one of them mentioned how a pro bowl type kicker missed an even easier one.

  315. 315 shah8 said at 10:24 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wanted to see Carr…Schaub is too old to play. Period.

  316. 316 RobNE said at 10:25 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    are they behind Kinne or are you on the wrong forum now?

  317. 317 Mitchell said at 10:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So we are done with Eagles coverage?

  318. 318 ICDogg said at 10:26 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Barkley nice connection with Damaris

  319. 319 Ark87 said at 10:28 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    did you hear the people by the broadcast booth, they went nuts

  320. 320 ICDogg said at 10:29 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    People actually paid for tickets to this game

  321. 321 Mitchell said at 10:29 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Wilfork is a fat SOB

  322. 322 SteveH said at 10:30 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Damaris Johnson has tremendous versatility, he can be our 9th string receiver and 6th string RB at the same time.

  323. 323 ICDogg said at 10:30 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Damaris Johnson is not exactly the kind of back you want to use to power through the middle

  324. 324 Rambler said at 10:55 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Everyone knew he was getting the ball a couple of times in a row. I think Chip just wanted to see what the backup offensive line could do with Damaris back there. And we saw the obvious answer repeatedly.

  325. 325 ICDogg said at 10:56 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    yup

  326. 326 Anders said at 9:20 AM on August 16th, 2014:

    often is short yardage way more about the OL than RB, in 2011 210 pound McCoy had no problems scoring 17 rushing TDs because of the OL.

  327. 327 Ark87 said at 10:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Look at Damaris Johnson

  328. 328 A_T_G said at 10:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    See, we don’t need Polk. We have our power back.

  329. 329 ICDogg said at 10:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He’s stronger than Polk. James K. Polk, the dead president, that is.

  330. 330 Mitchell said at 10:31 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    LOL, Chip is just like “fuck it, lets go home.”

  331. 331 Ark87 said at 10:33 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He all of a sudden decided he HATES Damaris Johnson

    “AGAIN!”

  332. 332 RobNE said at 10:34 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    I thought he’d go for two to avoid the tie, but he was playing chess to my checkers

  333. 333 ICDogg said at 10:34 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Still sticking to original game plan: find Marsh

  334. 334 ICDogg said at 10:35 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    More flag-gelations

  335. 335 A_T_G said at 10:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So, basically it boils down to Cary cost us this game.

  336. 336 RobNE said at 10:37 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    this was so unsatisfying. I feel like Teddy KGB at the end.

  337. 337 Ark87 said at 10:38 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Ranger is showing up a bit

  338. 338 Crus57 said at 10:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So, Momah and Villanueva at WR sometime?

  339. 339 Ark87 said at 10:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    gotta do it now to get it out of the system

  340. 340 A_T_G said at 10:39 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    When is the next game?

  341. 341 anon said at 10:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    next week

  342. 342 ICDogg said at 10:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Thurs night, Steelers

  343. 343 A_T_G said at 10:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Thanks.

  344. 344 ICDogg said at 10:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Then the following Thurs vs Jets

  345. 345 Christopher Miller said at 10:40 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    So at this point who was worse…Baldinger or Marsh?

  346. 346 Ark87 said at 10:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marsh, and that puts things in perspective

  347. 347 A_T_G said at 10:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Baldi sets the bar pretty high.

  348. 348 Crus57 said at 10:41 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Baldy flashed more, but Marsh was more consistent.

  349. 349 Christopher Miller said at 10:42 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Consistently not turning his head to find the ball 😀

  350. 350 ICDogg said at 10:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    He needs to mount a rearview mirror to his helmet

  351. 351 Ark87 said at 10:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    brilliant!

  352. 352 A_T_G said at 10:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Marsh turned a lot of heads today – Eagles fans downward, Patriot QB’s towards him, officials towards their flags – just not his own.

  353. 353 ICDogg said at 10:44 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Another Hail Mary chance for G. J. Kinne tonight?

  354. 354 Ark87 said at 10:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    gonna be just like a movie ending, you’ll see

  355. 355 jshort said at 10:45 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Well…….the next two are at home.

  356. 356 Ark87 said at 10:47 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    lets go home!

  357. 357 jshort said at 10:52 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    That was tough to sit through. Josey, Benn, and Marsh caught my eye….some good, some very very bad

  358. 358 ICDogg said at 10:59 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Not to question Belichick, but what exactly did the Pats gain by targeting one corner all night? In getting ready for the season, there’s not always going to be a Curtis Marsh to throw at.

  359. 359 jshort said at 11:06 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    Was actually feeling bad for Marsh…he was getting mauled on running too.

  360. 360 ICDogg said at 11:10 PM on August 15th, 2014:

    In a real game, of course, I would advocate taking advantage of anything like that you can find, but in a preseason game it seemed a little much. Still, it was also an opportunity for Marsh to show that he could play, and he failed to do that.