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Posted: October 26th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 291 Comments »Man, Nick Foles is getting some serious heat tonight. Some think he is an average QB. Some think he is a bad QB. Some think the Eagles must insert Mark Sanchez as the starter. Many are sure that we have learned one thing…Foles should not be the Eagles QB for the long term.
Okay.
This comes off a game where Foles was 36-62-411 with 2 TDs and 2 INTs.
If Foles had gone 36-52-411 with 2 TDs and no picks…would that have made him the QB of the future and a good player? No, clearly not. And the game Foles did have did not expose him as a bad player or someone that needs to be replaced.
Foles remains a work in progress. He is a mystery. We’re all dying to know the outcome and that leads people to proclaim they know he’s not the answer, but how many of those same people thought the Eagles were going to lose when trailing the Jaguars 17-0 or the Colts 20-6? I know you don’t want to hear this, but we have to let Foles play and show what he is. As good as things looked last year, they are murky right now.
Foles has been an INT machine this year. And that has been costly. He continues to preach the message that he’s learning from his mistakes, but the play on the field does not always show that. To be fair, INTs are not all the same. The mistakes he made today were very different than those in the Giants game. That said, does he have to learn every lesson in the book this season? Ugh.
I’m not here to absolve Foles and tell you everything is hunky dory. He’s got to play better.
There are a couple of things to consider. First, some QBs take time to develop. At the end of 3 seasons, Drew Brees was a huge question mark for San Diego. He had 29 TDs and 31 INTs. Brees had his breakout season the next year. Brees, like Foles, was inconsistent. And you have to understand that inconsistent isn’t the same thing as bad. Doug Pederson was bad. Mike McMahon was bad. Bobby Hoying was bad. Foles is at the very least an average QB.
The other key point is that if we did know Foles wasn’t the answer, finding the answer is a heck of a lot easier said than done. We’d all love Marcus Mariota to somehow end up in Philly, but that’s just not going to happen. He will go very high, possibly #1. The QB class overall is very unimpressive. You could trade for someone and hope Kelly works magic with him, but those situations don’t have a high success rate.
I don’t see Kelly giving up on Foles any time soon. He is definitely tired of the mistakes, but I think Kelly values the positives enough to work through the negatives.
Get mad at Foles when he sucks. Rip him when he throws dumb INTs. But also understand he’s a young QB that we’re still trying to figure out. We can’t really have an informed discussion on him until January, and even then the answer may not be as cut and dried as we would like.
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I have been pretty miserable tonight because I hate losing to the Cardinals, but let’s also remember the Eagles are 5-2 with a pair of narrow road losses to good teams. And the Eagles are starting to get healthy. The arrow is still pointing up on this season.
Don’t let a crappy loss cloud a good season so far.
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that last throw to jordan at the end, man foles backpedaled like 30 or more yards before he threw that thing… at the least you cant say he has a weak arm, because not many can back pedal that far and still throw and find a WR. foles prolly the best thrower while backpedaling in the NFL.. lol…
no way, that’s eli “throw bullshit 50/50 balls of my back foot” manning’s title
yo nick was completing balls doing it… lol
maybe he keeps the ball in bounds if he throws properly. maybe he gets the previous ball more accurate if his footwork was better.
i still cant belive how far he backpedaled during that last throw.. i still cant belive he found jordan and almost completed it… for a second i thought he did… but then the refs never raised their hands… *single tear rolls down cheek
Maybe he would do better if a certain HC wasn’t calling 60 pass plays, too.
Did you copy and paste that from an old Reid thread? 🙂
His first Int was exactly like the one against NYG. He missed his 1st opportunity and then was late and light with the football. He certainly isnt learning from his mistakes. That being said. I thing you have to let him play out this season and see how he is as a qb
I don’t agree. The first pick was a quick three step, he pumped once and then put too much loft under the ball.
The two interceptions against NYG, the first was because he didn’t see the guy hanging out in the flat by sproles. The second was him trying to get rid of the ball that he didn’t put enough on.
oh and i hope the eagles draft Rakeem Cato to groom under foles. Prolly be able to get him in the 3rd to 5th round range. I like cato.
Says the guy who told everyone that DAT would go in the first round guaranteed.
yeah… i dont think i ever guaranteed that.
Charlie Kelly
Call Me Carlos the Dwarf
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a year ago
the body of an NFL RB?? Have you seen Chris Johnson? lol.. He could
very well go in the 1st. A guy like dexter mccluster went very very high
in the 2nd round, and he isnt even a tru burner like DAT, and look at
tavon austin and how high he went. DAT will go in the 1st or very early
in the 2nd round. Watch and rememeber this comment.
Charlie Kelly
D3FB
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a year ago
nah, they will see his speed and play making ability and drool over
him. He will be a high 2nd round poick if not a late 1st rounder. bank
on it.
And dexter mccluster ran a 4.4 could of been 4.5, still a high 2nd round pick.
and he had had major production. nearl;y 1000 yards of offense every season and a ton of TDs. lol. plus his KR ability.
still dont see a guarantee, carlos the dwarf.
You had like 40 comments on that thread and consistently screamed he was getting picked top 40. You can whine about the “guaranteed” part but the sentiment is still there. Anyone who tried to rationalize with you got blah blah blah better than Tavon Austin, blah blah blah Dexter Mccluster.
well.. he is better then tavon austin and dexter.. lmfao.. when i have a conviction i stick with it.. DAT is gonna be a good player for andy.
DAT has done less than Josh Huff so far.
yeah.. thats not even true.. lol..
It’s an exaggeration, but there’s really not much in it – DAT is averaging a touch per game. If Huff had been healthy all year, I think it’s reasonable to expect he’d have done more than that.
ummm DAT wasnt healthy all year either, he had a hammy late in preseason n missed like 4 games.. lol
Give Foles the rest of the season. The FO should bring in competition for next offseason and have another competition. They did their due diligence for Foles this season since he had a good year last year.
for sure, and i liked trent dilfer’s take on 97.5 when he said you need to give young qbs at least a 3 year window. give them a fair shake to develop and prove they can make it.
Foles is what we thought he was – a 3rd round pick. His physical tools are ok, he makes some great plays and some head scratchers, and he’s got a good attitude and he’s tough.
But that being said… HE STILL HASN’T PLAYED A FULL SEASON!
Lets get the line healthy, get him a running game, see if he starts to feel better and give him a chance to grow out of his mistakes.
If he doesn’t grow out, then he’s still “just a 3rd round pick.” If he does, we’ve got a great player.
definitely, having a healthy line is absolutely huge. even all pros like shady need a healthy line (it’s a big part of his struggles this season and he’s considered a top 5 runner in the league).
and you don’t have to be johnny unitas/dan marino/ultra superduper star qb to be successful/productive in this offensive scheme.
As it appears, you just have to be a quick decision maker with deadly accuracy. The ability to run is a nice bonus, but that’s it.
Basically, be Aaron Rodgers
Even Rodgers need a team.
yeah but it’s clear to DC that foles can’t beat you. box is going to get stizzacked the rest of the season until foles proves he can win with his arm.
I think he’s shown he can do some damage with his arm, just that he’s mistake prone as well. Either way, kelce and Mathis back and then the two back in a rhythm after a few weeks? Go ahead, stack the box
i actually thought o line looked pretty good tonight, had some decent pushes
If he was being drafted now, he wouldn’t fall to the 3rd round. Therefore he is not a third round pick.
Valid way to look at it Ian. Where would you draft him?
Like Tommy said above for an example. “At the end of 3 seasons, Drew Brees was a huge question mark for San Diego. He had 29 TDs and 31 INTs.”
Brees and his team have since won a Super Bowl, he is mentioned with such QBs as Tom Brady and P Manning, and he and his team waxed Green Bay tonight.
Do you know who else had a good attitude and was tough? David Carr. Dude got sacked 76 freaking times as a rookie on a team full of scrubs and he just kept getting up and playing. But of course, that did little for him or the Texans.
Foles is not good…all year he has missed wide open receivers and today was no exception. If he’s not late and soft to Huff, that’s a TD, not an INT. If he throws the ball to where the route is being run, Cooper has a first down and, again, there is no INT. We’ve all seen the pictures of Maclin running free–no one within 20 yds!–in the JAX game. Time to figure out plan B behind center.
Still to harsh to call him not good. He found a wide open Maclin today and had a nice step up and toss to Cooper as well. Yes the int in the rz was bad bad bad. Meh, w/e I guess. Really tired of arguing for Nick and feel emotionally drained from this loss.
No worries. Foles is going to start all year unless he gets hurt and I doubt Sanchez is the solution unless he gets to play against backups in the real games like in preseason. I hope Foles turns it around but it seems like the same song and dance each week in terms of folks searching for justifications for what is mediocre-at-best QB play with at least one or two AWFUL mistakes per game mixed in. On to the next one…hopefully Chip and Stoutland figure out some way to block or at least slow down Watt.
I’m pretty much with you 100%. Just want him to play well so badly.
Serious question here, though… Which QBs in the league would you rather have than Foles?
Rodgers, Manning, Brees, obviously. Brady, Luck, Rivers, Wilson, maybe Flacco? For all his faults, I think Foles is still a top-10 QB. He might not be as good as we’d like, but it’s gonna be damn hard to find someone better.
Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady, Luck, Rivers, Kaepernick, Ryan, Flacco, Wilson, Roethlisberger, Romo, maybe Newton and Tannehill and I’d also rather try to see what Chip & Co. could do in developing Bridgewater, Bortles, or Carr (I freely admit that, right now, Foles is better than these 3 guys but I think each of them has a lot of upside).
Foles also has upside. And he’s clearly better than Tannehill. Some of those other guys, eh. Romo for instance still makes the kind of dumb mistakes we’re criticizing Foles for and has been in the league for 10 seasons.
I wouldn’t say he’s top 10, but “mediocre” isn’t the right word for him, either. It’s more like “wildly inconsistent and variable between brilliant and terrible”.
I agree Foles has upside. Clearly better than Tannehill? To you maybe. Tannehill has more upside than Foles. He’s been playing QB for what 4 years? Tannehill seems more accurate to me, and definitely more athletic, but he’s nowhere as durable as Nick, and Nick strikes me as a stronger leader. I think Foles will get more consistent, but I feel more certain that Tannehill will be a star.
QB is 85% a mental position. Psychological resilience, intelligence, leadership, and work ethic are intangibles but all hugely important for excellence at that position. Foles appears to have these traits in spades, with Tannehill I have my doubts – just loo at how he handled talk of being benched earlier this year. Yes, he’s more athletic and has a stronger arm, but the same is true of JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Kyle Boller, Blaine Gabbert, Jeff George, and a hundred other first round busts who have come into the league over the years. I’ve never seen a guy as thin-skinned as Tannehill succeed as an NFL quarterback, which is why I doubt his potential.
I don’t know if Tanehill’s arm is stronger than Nick’s. He is probably more accurate and he makes quicker decisions. I don’t think it’s fair to put Tannehill in the company you named. Remember he’s more of a novice than any other starting QB in the league. He’s got a lot of growing to do, and granted, that includes growing up, but he’s a keeper in my view.
Romo for his career has a 65% completion rate and roughly twice as many TDs as INTs. The Romo blows it late meme is just that – a narrative based on a few high profile examples that don’t reflect his overall body of work. Romo has never been as mistake prone over a season than what Foles has shown this yr. I would take Romo without hesitation. Tannehill is admittedly a stretch, but he’s #14 on my list. With our defense constructed as it is, the Eagles need a top 10 qb and it seems we both agree Foles is not that.
Romo is 33 and has been a starter for almost a decade. Foles is 25 and has started about 1.5 seasons’ worth of games. That’s a pretty big difference.
And I’d be more inclined to believe that Romo’s poor performance in high leverage moments was just a statistical anomaly if it wasn’t so consistent and predictable.
But the original question was which qbs would I take right now over Foles, not which qbs at the same stage of development I would take. No doubt that Romo is the better qb as of right now. And if there is a place to find high leverage football stats I don’t know where to find it. Romo has numerous 4th q comebacks and game winning drives on his resume
Well, if you want to play that game, Rudy Reuttiger has a great attitude too. As did half the kids on your local peewee Flag Football team.
You’re comparing apples and oranges with him and Carr. You can’t act as if they or their situations are similar just because of their positive attitudes.
Nick came onto a contender under the tutelage of Big Red and then Chip. Carr went to an expansion team. How you’re raised in the NFL matters too.
I agree the situations are different. My point was good attitude plus toughness counts for little if the other variables aren’t there. One variable is some semblance of a team. Carr lacked that. Other variables are accuracy, decision-making, arm strength, ability to make reads. Foles is showing some serious deficiencies in each of those areas.
And each of these areas are things that quarterbacks have a pattern of improving on over the course of their careers. Tommy made the point that Drew Brees had worse numbers at a point farther along in his career than Foles. There’s no guarantee Foles is the next Brees, but the fact that he’s inconsistent at certain things at this point in his career is not a reason to conclude that he can’t be the franchise quarterback.
It is if Brees is an outlier. I haven’t seen any stats either way in terms of how much improvement is typical after a qb’s third year. My suspicion is that for each Brees there are at least 3 Jake Lockers
I find most of the discussion surrounding Foles’ future a little silly/ He is clearly the starter for this season. They are winning and he has them in the games in the ones they lose. He is not going to be benched.
No decision needs to be made at this time. Let him play out the season and then take a look at it and see where Foles is and what other options there are. We can evaluate his play on a week to week basis and complain when he throws interceptions, but there is no need to make any conclusions at this time whether he is or is not a franchise QB.
our turnover differential is at the bottom of the league — right above teams like the skins who are rotating qbs. the upside is that we’ve gotten 7tds from DST which frankly has won us several games. but there will be a lot of games like this one if thee TOs aren’t fixed.
The other side of that coin is that he had the team up by 3 with less than 2 minutes on the clock. The D should’ve absolutely been able to at least force overtime from there. Then when they screwed it up, Foles marched down the field and almost pulled off the comeback.
Foles is probably always going to be a guy who needs everyone around him to be doing their job in order for the team to succeed – but so is pretty much everyone who’s not a hall of fame level player. He’s good enough and he’ll probably get better.
So you bench Foles when he loses you another few games first or do you realize he has now lost its two games and was not the reason we won two other. It has only been the skins game where Foles played very well, but one in 7 is not good enough
Who are you going to replace him with? Mark “Butt Fumble” Sanchez? Matt Barkley? Even if you think Foles is not the longterm solution, he is clearly the best option they have for this season.
Well we have Nick “Cant slide, so I fumble instead” Foles.
This is a classic illustration of the observation that QBs get too much of the credit for wins and too much of the blame for losses.
Watching Foles is frustrating because he makes a lot of good plays along with the bad ones. Even in the SF loss, his worst game this year, he made a couple of fantastic pinpoint throws into really tight windows, such as that completion to Maclin on the sideline on the final drive and the dropped Cooper TD pass. Those are not throws that the stiffs Foles’ detractors are comparing him to (Kevin Kolb, Bobby Hoying, Derek Anderson, etc.) make. On the other hand, he is making too many mistakes, both physical and mental, for the team to realistically contend for a Super Bowl title this year. If he was just bad, it would be easy to say “he’s not the guy, move on”. But as is, his problems appear to be correctable, which makes it irritating when they aren’t corrected. As you point out, lots of QBs now recognized as among the very best in the league have been similarly turnover prone and inconsistent early in their careers. The thing I worry about with Foles is that we don’t know which he is – a Drew Brees/Tom Brady who will make a leap once he gets more experience, or a Mark Sanchez who will stagnate as the inconsistent player he is.
This post on the QB situation is awesome…..it is fair, accurate and well balanced…..I would love to pin it somehow…..and point to it when a thread gets cluttered with people saying tha we should layoff foles……
He’s signed till 2016. We won’t know what the organization thinks of him until next year unless something major goes down this year/next year.
Well stated. My only concern about Foles is they had 2 weeks(ok, 1 week) to work on those issues and he came back after the bye with the same issues he took the break with. I was just hoping he came back with a different attitude or mind set to try and avoid those. Still great post.
Ugh Fest. The Ugh game.
It just seemed like it became everybody’s job to have an ugh play. Some guys got in multiple, including the refs.
Okay, Parkey did not join in on the Ugh fest..
So many ugh moments I might have a gotten a hernia…
looked more like a shit show to me, but i share your sentiment. i didn’t get a hernia but i honest to god rolled my ankle pretty fucking hard during the game
Jeremy Maclin on his career day: “It’s not enjoyable if you don’t win the game.”
Can you imagine DJax saying something like that? I can’t.
true story, i’m def. waiting for djax’s “for who, for what” moment. it is bound to happen at some point.
yeah big change. too bad we traded only having one wr for still only having 1 wr. looking at their stats they are eerily similar.
Maclin had 2 TDs in one game. In both 2008 and 2012, DiccSean had 2 TDs all YEAR. How is this similar?
No, I seem to remember an Instagram watercolor painting posted by him dancing a TD celebration against us…..after they lost the game.
was away from my computer for the game, read the 2nd half thread comments. about what i was feeling/thinking (good effort by you guys for getting to 900). Classic “we beat ourselves” game. some random thoughts;
too many penalties
too many turnovers (talking to you foles and huff)
that huff fumble was a fucking killer and a half
fuck you nate allen, you had one fucking job
fuck you rhonde barber (especially his analysis of that no call on the final drive cooper horse collar). every time you think that he’s alright just remember he the twin brother of tiki barber.
all of that and i did not like the 3 and 1 call on the goal line. don’t know if was bad play design or execution, but i didn’t like it. also thought we should have gone for it on 4th down
oh and really fucking glad maclin didn’t hurt himself diving into that gatorade table. he’s really stepped up into that #1 receiving role
wonder what sort of number he’s going to try and put on that.
I’m very glad he wasn’t killed when the 2 Cardinals tried to behead him!
EDIT: Agree on going for it on 4th down. McCoy could have danced to the line and Foles could have just fallen down behind him. With the ball in hand.
That has to be a fine, he was targeting Maclin’s head.
I can’t believe how much focus from this loss is on Foles. If Ertz or Mathews comes up with that last second TD, Foles is back to “St. Nick” etc…
Foles did not loose this game. (period) He had some bad throws, but he also had some very good throws. People can try to argue that his pick in the red zone cost us points… yeah, well it was a different game at that point. When the game was on the line, he did not loose it and actually helped put us in place to win it.
The only game I saw of Foles where I questioned him being legitimate was last year’s game in Philly when Dallas came to town. Outside of that, he’s had good games and bad games.
Hmmm who else has good games and bad games? I dunno, how about ask Aaron Rogers tonight? Or Tom Brady for the first several games, or Drew Brees for the first several games etc…
I’d like to see a little more discussion on why we lost the game, the real culprits, and the real factors.
Cause blaming Foles for us being 5-2 and in every game this year for a potential win seems about as absurd as… perhaps throwing ice packed snowballs at a Santa Claus mascot.
it was a team loss. too many mistakes all the way around.
the problem isn’t his play per se, it’s probably that we want to see more improvement than we’re seeing week to week. sucks b/c the team sort of lives and dies by the qb in this league. do we give foles 5 years, will kelly keep a job that long?
Unfortunately you won’t see a linear progression week to week, individual games have too many variables affecting what happens – it’s too erratic (not his play but the game itself). You should look at the distribution and how the overall flow of it is progressing. Neil Degras Tyson used a great example when describing climate change where he was walking along the beach with a dog bouncing around him. If you want to know where they are going, watch the man not the dog. Same idea here, don’t look at the individual games but how the game fits into his portfolio, and how the overall distribution has changed. And more importantly, why mistakes/achievements were made.
This game was close. Had good and bad plays from BOTH teams. Foles looked way more decisive this time, even if his decisions were not always correct. As an aside, after the Sunday night game, I’m not quite as worried about Green Bay.
You mean if Mathews caught the ball that Foles threw 5 yards out of bounds after back peddling 15 yards for no reason? Strange thing to blame on Mathews.
the backpedaling thing is becoming overstated. It was a full out blitz, they were coming free instantly. Nick had to buy time to let the receivers get into the end zone.
You’re a much better man than I am. Great analysis and words of encouragement. Houston….here come the Eagles.
I’m still down on him and your well written and reasoned post isn’t going to sway me, so neener.
He has not had one good game where he played well the entire game this year. He has not had one good game where he has shown good mechanics consistently this year or had good decision making throughout.
He did last year — the concern is the regression. Last year, he was generally good with flashes of bad (and one game of “I’m pretty sure he has a concussion” against Dallas – which I really don’t think he should be judged on). This year, almost every pass is a nail biter.
This year, we’re surprised when he completed that long pass to Maclin today. Last year, we wouldn’t have been.
In my last post, I wondered if the regression is due to the change from Lazor to Musgrave – and I still think that may be a large part of the issue.
To me, he’s making progress from early this year. I agree we haven’t quite seen the Foles from last year but I think it’s close. The INTs have to stop, but otherwise I think he’s doing a very good job. The INTs bring the average way down unfortunately. GEAGLE did point out that he’s doing a much better job avoiding sacks than even last year, let alone early this year, so there is some overall progression even. And yes, I would have been very impressed last year with the deep throw — he did have some nice ones but few that accurate.
The INTs are a problem which must be fixed for him to be a very good QB. If it’s a long-term habit we have an issue. But we saw him play well last year and not have the habit (2 INTs was fluky but generally he would throw at most 1 per game, and some games none had a chance to be intercepted). So, it’s not impossible that it won’t eventually happen. Other QBs have had the issue early on and figured it out, as well. It’s just frustrating when they contribute to a loss like this, but his were just a couple of mistakes among many.
I have to disagree, beyond the interceptions his decision making has been poor and his throws have been off. He’s missed a lot of open receivers all season long.
Early in the year yes; not so much the last few games. He made a ton of good throws yesterday, and threw it away often when there wasn’t much there. All QBs miss open receivers from time to time; early in the year it seemed egregious and too often but recently most of his play has seemed back to “last year normal” to me. Except that he’s forcing an extra couple throws per game, and is not getting as lucky on those. I really don’t remember very many throws from yesterday where he had an open receiver and missed badly. I thought his decision making was mostly really good.
Bad news:
1. Eagles lost one game against a 5-1 team on the road and have one more loss than the Cowgirls.
Good news:
1. Eagles are 5-2;
2. No new major injuries;
3. Play the Cowgirls twice, when their O line, Sproles and Kendricks come back;
4. (most important) Nate Allen bought a full page “I stink” ad two days before the trading deadline.
+ they lead the Wild Card race
I want first round buy and as much home field as possible
Allen only bought a half-page ad. He did have one good play.;~)
Biggest head scratcher wasnt the 2 INTs Foles threw it was the one thrown into triple coverage to Cooper.. C’mon man!
wait — wait — you’re saying — our wr ran a deep route and their safety didn’t let him behind him? Can you send that clip to Nate Allen with the heading “this is what a safety is suppose to do”….
I think playing behind the wide 9 has broken Nate mentally, like some form of torture.
Suggested title: Were Andy/Marty Calling The Plays?
Subtitle: SIXTY Attempted Passes!
Subtitle: Is McCoy’s Toe Broken?
Fire Bill Musgrave. He kidnapped Nick Foles and replaced him with Christian Ponder.
Chip isn’t getting enough heat for this loss.
What other coach goes into the shotgun on 3rd & Goal from the 1? Pound the damn rock! Put Foles under center. God forbid we ever use a fullback, especially when we have James Casey and Trey Burton both active. Heck, put a big d-lineman like Bennie Logan or Beau Allen in as a lead blocker. Or put in an extra o-lineman. The Eagles are way too finesse on the goal line. MORE BEEF!!!!
Did Chip turn into Andy and forget about the run game? I understand you want to protect Shady, but that’s what Polk is there for. Shady was getting just enough yards to do damage. Let him get 4-5 yards at a time. I get that the Cards are vulnerable against the pass, but could we throw the ball less than 75% of the time? I long for the days of the three-headed monster with Staley, Buckhalter, and Westbrook. I really thought that was going to be Shady, Sproles, and Polk. What a disappointment the lack of commitment to the run game is!
I kinda miss having Bryce Brown now…
Why? He had 7 carries for 15 yards today against a terrible Jets team. I applaud Chip and Howie for getting a huge return on that overrated bum.
He could get those hard yards if the play call wasn’t to bounce it outside.
Polk and Sproles are both doing better as backup RBs. I don’t miss Brown at all.
I just wanted Polk to get that 3rd down run and not McCoy.
jets have one of best run ds in the league. only think they can do right now is run and stop the run.
Some poor playcalling, some poor passing, some poor running. Also there was another team on the field. Who were reputed to be pretty darn good against the run.
Yet, the Eagles were running pretty well against the team reputed to be pretty darn good against the run. Not even saying 50-50 or 55-45 balance was appropriate. More like 60-40.
There were a couple of plays at or near the goal line I couldn’t agree with. Not that my opinion matters, but on 4th and goal, inches away, don’t kick a field goal!! Chip played it too safe, even though he is supposed to be daring. And what you said about 3rd and goal.
I was fine with the FG. That would have sealed the win, if not for Nate Allen’s total ineptitude.
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/analysis/game-analysis/95-more-fourth-down-challenges-for-chip
The numbers back that notion up. When you also consider how good (except for 1play+1drive) had been all game
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I love Chris Brown’s analysis, but I have to disagree with him on this one. You’re giving the defense more time to penetrate gaps from a shotgun than just a simple under-center QB sneak.
Molk is your center. That’s not what he does well.
Actually Molk has looked much better the past two games than he did earlier this year. I’m willing to bet on him.
He’s going to have Dan Williams who is short and stout head up on him, plus either two DT’s in either A gap or two LBs. And if the sneak fails then everyone is whining “you have the best RB in the league blah blah”. The shotgun gives shady the opportunity to find a seam and sneak through.
Additionally, Casey and Burton aren’t that big, both are probably 230ish max. We aren’t suddenly going I formation and sending them to iso block a 260lb linebacker. And the use a DL as a lead blocker is great in theory but just as often they run into the backs of the OL or completely whiff.
The shotgun failed though. Precisely because the Cardinals penetrated the gaps before Shady even got to the LOS. None of their ILBs are 260 lbs. I guarantee you. Last one that big I remember is Trotter. Casey played some FB for the Texans and was a lead blocker in goal line formations. BTW that was back when the Texans were good. He would’ve been fine. 49ers seem to do fine using DL as FBs. Heck, hand the ball directly to a DL. That would be fun.
Ok but the thing is the offensive line got blown backwards. Doesn’t matter what the playcall was we were out executed.
I mostly agree. If you don’t have a lead blocker to create a hole, though, and there are no holes opened up, you’re screwed just like the Eagles were.
But you wanted a QB sneak. That doesn’t have a lead blocker. Also once again, even if we lined up in the I formation, everything from B gap to B gap was moving backwards. All a lead back is going to do there is put a helmet in the back of an OL.
Also the most successfull short yard situation is 3 WR set as the few blocker near the box, the higher chance. If you split the TE out and all 3 WRs, you are guaranteed to get at least 5 players out of the box, that makes it 5vs6 but that is something Kelly will take every time
Actually, you’re right about the QB sneak. That was a moot point on my part. At 2:15 am, I’m not as clear as I normally am. QB sneak is my first choice. FB Dive is my second. HB Dive is my third. With a HB Dive, FB could have picked up a free defender (believe me, there were plenty of free defenders). It’s like insurance against the OL sucking on a play.
We had one of the best short yardage offenses last year running from the gun
Appreciate reading yours/D3FB stuff. Breath of fresh air. Just want to draw some comparisons. Cinci brings in the beef of a defensive player for short yardage plays. Maybe’s it’s not a terrible idea. Second..Cinci was getting beat off the ball all game — yet their QB has 2 qb td runs. This is no fleet of foot qb either. Dalton took a snap — the hb run up to him and pushed him forward. Hill was right behind the hb pushing from behind the line forward too and that play worked.
Andy Dalton is not a slow QB. He’s only marginally less athletic than Alex Smith. However, he also has relatively heavy feet when he’s not going full tilt, and that tends to make him statuesque.
Picture this goal line formation:
TE Casey
TE Celek
LT Peters
LG Tobin
C Molk
RG Herremans
RT Gardner
TE Johnson
QB Foles
RB McCoy/Polk
FB Bennie Logan/Beau Allen
Obviously, when Kelce and Mathis come back, put them at C and LG respectively. Tobin goes in at RT instead of Gardner.
Now that’s beef!
and I do love beef!
The best goal formation in terms of success rate is 3 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB
Ok boyz, that was a real frustrating game for me. It was an intense roller coaster ride which is the only type of game I know this year, save the Giant’s game. While McCoy had 21 attempts for 83 yards
Foles has happy feet, isn’t making quick or good reads, and for some reason has started throwing floaters like Philip Rivers (but unlike Rivers, Foles’ floaters aren’t getting there). I don’t care what his stat line is; it’s about consistently poor decision-making and mechanics from week to week. Sanchez isn’t the answer but the FO needs to find one because Foles isn’t the guy and that’s been clear for at least 3 weeks now. The cherry-picked Brees stat is nice, but here’s a few other guys’ TD/INT numbers through their first 3 years:
Christian Ponder 38 TD/34 INT
Jake Locker 22 TD/15 INT
Tim Couch 39 TD/43 INT
Rick Mirer 36 TD/43 INT
Anyone really want to bet that Foles turns out more like Drew Brees than he does one of those 4 stiffs? Also, can someone tell me why Foles would backpedal and look left the whole time on the last play when he had Maclin, who had torched Peterson and everyone else who tried to cover him all day, single-covered with 1/3 of the field to work with to the right?
Nick Foles is also in the Bad Eli and Mark Sanchez territory of been a turnover machine. Foles is on his way to 21 ints and 9 fumbles lost
Couldn’t agree more. And it is killing the team right now every bit as much as Vick’s turnover problems did.
haha yea, it is sad when you are on your way to a more turnove prone year than Mark Sanchez and Michael Vick and is in Eli Manning territory.
Michael Vick and Eli Manning, on the other hand, makes it worthwhile to put up with their issues, because they can outright win the game for you, passing. Nick Foles only has one or two truly good passes a game, usually.
Foles footwork was terrible today. I don’t think I’ve seen a qb throw off his back foot so much for no reason in one game.
You must not watch Jay Cutler much lol.
Well I think Jay Cutler is awful so that’s not a positive in Foles favor to me.
Foles has done that the whole year and that is the biggest problem with.
I’ll take the Foles with an 8% sack rate that steps into throws and doesn’t throw off his back foot every pass. Sacks are bad but are still a lot better than turnovers.
Here’s your title Tommy:
It’s the Red Zone, Stupid!
We sucked in the RZ under Andy and now we’re somehow even worse under Chip. As most of us have been yelling about for many, many years now, we need that big back that can drive the pile when we’re down in close (or in 4-and-ones). That’s not Shady’s forte by any stretch of the imagination and flooding the field with 4 receivers doesn’t work very well down there either. Find a poor man’s Marshawn Lynch who just won’t be denied and get ‘er done already Chip!
Chris Polk was doing a pretty good job carrying tacklers with him for 3+ yards after contact on the two runs that got us down to the 1-foot line. Then he was taken out for some reason…I guess Chip meant it when he said (in reference to Sproles being in late instead of Shady) he has no clue which RB is in the game and doesn’t really care, because that’s the only explanation for that substitution.
he probably got hurt.
You don’t think ARI would’ve seen that coming?
I can see Josh Huff’s potential, I just wish it wasn’t marred with 2 fumbles already. Or is it 3?
Its only 1, the other was on Sproles
I can’t — -I think a player of Huff’s value can be found in round 10 or even not drafted…
You’re blinded by anger. Can’t say I blame you though.
He’s Damaris, but happened to go to Oregon.
LOL no way dude. He weighs at least 30 lbs more, 4 inches taller, more explosive with similar agility and has more versatility in regards to where he can line up on the field and return punts and kicks.
I’m done being livid of bad throws / bad footwork by Foles, stupid fumbles by Huff, and poor tackling / coverage by Allen / Fletcher…………. for now.
Ok, not quite done. The non-tackling / covering on the two long TD plays is inexcusable. There needs to be some major work done with the DBs in the off-season.
We need to go out and slap Houston and Carolina going into the Seattle game.
One other thing;
How do we go a whole game vs. that “eh” O-line and not get a sack or a pressure based INT?
Because our OL is really fucking good in pass pro right now.
I think he was talking about their own line vs. our D
true
palmer did have some throw aways but he got the ball out, we got tons of pressure just didn’t make a play.
If we had just 1 CB who could play the ball in the air, we would have had 2 or 3 and if Palmer didnt have Fitzgerald, we would have had 2-3 sacks.
Also Palmer is one of the least sacked QBs and one of the least turnover prone QBs last many games (dating back to last year)
90% of his issues are mechanical. I think every one of his incompletions was a ball that sailed on him, and a couple completions were as well. I also think he got in his own head after the first INT. He was the old grip-it-and-rip-it Foles up until that point, and then his footwork started getting wonky and he took more time to throw the ball. This, to me, is the most concerning part. He let a mistake mess up his groove. He’s young, it’ll happen, but you like to see a very short short-term memory with QBs.
He needs to get into the “don’t think, react” mindset. He had it up until that 1st INT.
To be fair to Nick, we all know that he isn’t a QB who should be throwing 62 times. I think he takes that to mean he has to win the game for his team (like at Arizona). Foles is best with a strong and consistent running game. Ideally, he’d be throwing a maximum of 35 times per game. 62 throws? That’s setting him up for failure. And considering that, he put out a good performance.
20% of Foles passes came on the last drive.
aww man, that makes me feel even worse, though it seemed like he threw a lot all game.
That still means he threw 50 times during the game.
What are the expectations of Foles?? From sucking so bad people wanna bench him for Sanchez to he is the rainmaker the next legend.. Does anyone have confidence in him to take this team n win it all to be the Franchise QB? Bad OL, to mechanics are wrong, to hes young, to this is his 1st year starting.. I would think the NFL now is easier for young QBs to excel as it favors the offensive players.. Here a quote from Urclacher on Cutler it made me think of Foles in where he fits..”You look at the guys … the Bradys, the Mannings, the Rodgerses, the
Breeses … those guys win every year. Even with no one around them.
(Aaron) Rodgers has no offensive line, he wins. (Tom) Brady has no
receivers, he wins. You look at Jay, he’s got Brandon (Marshall), Alshon
(Jeffery), Matt (Forte) and a great offensive line … Martellus Bennett … and they can’t seem to put it together for some reason.” Game by game its looking more n more that this is who Foles is..
ouch. i mean only 4-5 teams have that guy. ravens won with flacco. we can win. giants win with eli.
Oh man i didnt want it to come off as harsh.. Just reading what Urlacher said about Cutler made me think are we making excuses for Foles n are we expecting too much from him.. Just losing that confidence n feeling n saying this is the guy
when you think about it — it’s silly to lose confidence in him. It’s easy to say those guys win every year NOW. Did they win all the games their first 2 years of their career? AGAIN — compare apples to apples and not a 2nd year player to veterans. Compare Eli to those guys. I remember a Peyton Manning on his back so much the first 2 years that it made porn stars jealous….
But those guys in their first 2 years didnt play with these passing friendly rules though.. Hes a 3rd year player now.. Hes playing in a QB friendly league now.. You have all off season along with playing in the season to get mental reps n get mechanics right.. So what are we expecting of him?
he’s not a 3 year starter though..right? 3rd year player is a lot different than a 3rd year starter. His first season was under AR too. What do we expect him in year 2 as a starting QB in the NFL? Learn. Get better. Foles, nor any other QB in the history of the NFL is expected to lead the team to the super bowl in year 2. The better question is what are YOUR expectations. If we’re in year 3 and year — very valid argument. I think(could be off a game or 2) Foles just finished his first 16 starts as a starter in the NFL. Again, what expectations can there be? 16-0? 55 td’s and 10 picks?
Improved! Thats my expectation
Going 5-1 with the number of turnovers we had was unsustainable. It caught up to us yesterday and considering how good the Cards are, it could end up costing us in playoff positioning (if we make it).
Nick Foles is an aggravating player. He can be very good for a stretch and then in the EXACT SAME game he’ll suddenly start throwing off his back foot, making horrible decisions and becoming a human turnover machine. I can live with inconsistency but the roller coaster ride in game is going to end up destroying my liver.
Truth.
Well, I guess then I just really hope Foles is going to morph into a 6’6″ 240lbs version of Brees starting towards the end of next year…
After sleeping on it i don’t think this was on Nicky, Kelly’s gotta know he shouldn’t be asked to throw it 62 times a game.
Now that the Pats are the # 2 seed and rolling again, just weeks after being declared done b/c their OL was so awful….what does that tell us about our OL?
Are our backups terrible? Is the scheme too complicated for non-elite players?
How do other teams fix their issues and here we are throwing 62 times a game and passing and passing in the red zone etc. [I know part of the answer is Tom Brady]
5’2 record considering our injuries is more than a success
Funny that — the game on the line — Nate Allen who — stinks, stank and stunk — and will continue to suck — blows yet ANOTHER responsibility — and people complain about Foles? Idiots.
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You can sit there and blame Foles all you want (and I get people have to have some sort of knee jerk reaction) because that’s all the Foles haters do. Eagles lose and it’s “Foles sucks”. I think there was plenty of blame on this one to go round … Peters was a pain in the ass with those penalties – to name one….
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Huff — who I still HATE the pick — who still hasn’t shown one reason why he should have been picked — had as brutal of a fumble as ANY if Foles picks.
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Even then — I can forgive Peters. If people where blinders about Foles, can’t I wear the same blinders about Huff? So, he sucks right? But I can forgive that play too — because game on the line — our HORRIBLE SAFETY blew another coverage. ANOTHER COVERAGE!!!!
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if you want to blame someone — blame Chip Kelly for not upgrading Allen’s position.
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Nate Allen — you’re job — do not get beat deep. Hey Allen — DO NOT GET BEAT DEEP. TD Nate got burnt. Hey Nate — what was your responsibility? UM, Coach, I forgot.
If Foles protects the football the Eagles are up by multiple scores at that point and Nate Allen’s terribleness doesn’t cost them the game.
So Huff’s fumble doesn’t count? the offensive yardage that Peters cost the team? we’ll just forget about all of that because Foles threw a pick…oh, and where was the defense on that 80 yard play by the Cards? we’ll just throw that away too because it was all Foles fault.
Trust me, there’s enough blame to go around in this game.
There can be plenty of blame to go around…..for numerous players…..but it doesn’t help to be apologetic for one of them while pointing out the faults of others. Nick should be subject to criticism as much as any other player on the team. When it gets into vitirol, I agree it’s too much but the truth is he’s turned over the ball too often this year, Arizona game included. Then again, 62 pass attempts is a lot. lol
[…] I Can’t Think of a Good Title – Iggles BlitzMan, Nick Foles is getting some serious heat tonight. Some think he is an average QB. Some think he is a bad QB. Some think the Eagles must insert Mark Sanchez as the starter. Many are sure that we have learned one thing…Foles should not be the Eagles QB for the long term. […]
Speaking of title, what about ‘Good. Nate.’?!
When I checked in here last night – and granted I was a bit tipsy by that time – most of the comments bashing Foles had ‘TATE’ written all over them.
I really hope this won’t become the standard because I think this is probably the best Eagles blog.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind fair criticism and well laid out arguments. However most of the Eagles posters from last night I don’t even remember posting when the Eagles are winning.
Give Foles a break, he’s in his second year as a full time starter. Ffs.
That was my problem last night. Now that the alcohol wore off, I’m not too worried. He has to play better, but I think the frustrating thing about him this year is he’s averaging about 2 TOs a game. But, he’s not the only one at fault here. Peters had an up and down game and took some bad penalties. McCoy danced a bit on a couple of the runs and lost more yardage. They didn’t execute well on the offensive side of the ball and put the defense in some tight situations 3 times last night.
FOles was plenty at fault yesterday, but truth be told, nIck in his second year starting has no business setting the franchise record for pass attempts and completions following a decade of ridiculuosly pass happy andy Reid..
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Ask Nick to throw 60 times, probably aren’t putting your young QB in the best position to succeed, still he has plenty to clean up. I don’t get to crazy over a young QB who hasn’t even played two years yet working thru some shit… I prefer not having to deal with it, but I understand his development isnt just going to go straight up like an elevator..
I have to remember it’s growing pains.
Trust me, it hurts me too…I just try to be better then the typical philadelphia idiot
no one really cares about stats it’s wins and losses.
, I know you weren’t sleeping thru a 5-1 record with fans acting like we lost every game accept the skins and Giants game..
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If,our pffense doesn’t perform, like a well oiled machine, play perfect footballI and score ATleast 30, fans bitch all week
Not sure whats worse, losing a heartbreaker, or the ridiculous crap that will follow all week… Truth be told, win or lose yesterday, it wouldn’t have mattered. Had we kicked that FG, went up 3 and the defense held on to win the game, this city would have treated the win like a loss anyway, so what’s really the difference to all the fools? When that 5-1 cardinals team played like crap, got help from refs all game, made 3 plays all game and won, yet that fanbase will celebrate a hard fought win over a 5-1 Eaglez team like it should.
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Yesterday’s win wasnt going to be a flawless 40-7 week, so I would still be subject to the same stupidity this week from our fans anyway, so I probabky shouldn’t be too upset about the LOSS.
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As for yesterday…ugh, so much pain. Bruce Arians better never complain about refs ever again or I swear I’m gonna sñiper him myself.
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2nd time the defense gives up a ridiculuos play because our safety is staring in the back field.. I undstanding it was 3rd and 5 and Nate bit on the double move defending the fake dig route, but this isn’t the first time our safety left our corners holding their nuts in their hand.. If a corner expects safety help in the center, the friggin safety has to be there… He makes the beautiful strip fumble. And steals what should have been a hard fought win by our defense…
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i don’t know if I can watch that game tape…
I”m better today than I was yesterday. Allen is who he is. We’ve watched this defense enough to know the weak points. We should stop expecting good S play from him and just hope that he can be consistently average. If he is, then he won’t cost us games. I think I realized this morning that I should stop getting mad at things I know can’t change (Allen, Fletcher).
But I will over things I know can – Foles. He’s got to play smarter.
I just don’t know what else they can do about Nate.. I feel hopeless. He simply isn’t good enough to be a playmaker and be sound in his assignment, so I prefer he stops trying to make plays and just operate assuming Murphy’s law, anything that can go wrong will go wrong… Fuck the 3rd and 5 dig route, go be a safety in the middle of the field and be where the fucking corner expects you to be damn it…
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Then I got the pregame show acting like a bunch of drama whores. Micheal Barkaan jumped so quick when they had Cary at the mic, Derick gunn is asking him questions just trying to get Cary to throw Nate under the bus… Really appreciate how Cary handle the instigating bitches in our media and didn’t make things worse by throwing Nate under the bunch…shame that idiots will blame him for it
I’m not a big fan of Williams, but I did like his physicality in the game yesterday. There was a time he initiated contact to make a tackle – I think it was Ellington.
Loved Nates FF- fumble recovery, that was such a boss play, then he does that, bleck. Probably shouldn’t put him that close to the LOS if he is supposed to be the deepest man. He seemed to be manned up on that little speedster he was so close, not good. That’s the second time we got burned bad with no deep safety over the top that game. But then I hate conservative play with the game on the line, sometimes these things happen I guess.
he was trying to prevent the first down. that’s what we see djax do almost every week.
but that’s not his responsibility….leading, time running out — give up 5 yards is no biggie. It’s terrible, that he thinks stopping a 5 yard play is smarter than giving up a game winning TD…
agree, i can’t even really defend him, gotta know game situation
Yeah, good call by Carson Palmer, good play, know the situation, 4 down territory, you can run on 3rd to make 4th more manageable if not get the first down out right, or you take take a shot and still have a manageable 4th down if it fails. Saw our defense was aggressively up on the line, made a beautiful throw, that was a kill shot.
Allen is just not football smarts. It’s that simple. Even on that great play, with the strip — you can see it in his eyes that he didn’t know what to do. He was like “omg, was that a fumble. it’s in my arms, what do I do? Ok, I’m going to jump out of bounds”. That was his instinct to sit and think about it instead of react. Some with blown coverage. He sat, thought, diagnose the play. When he figured it out, he was watch the guys back run for a td.
We’re getting a bit silly now, that was a sick play, it’s ok to hate he made a major mistake, but you gotta give credit to the man for his good plays when he gets them. He didn’t go running because the play was whistled as the runner being down. Even if he took it to the house it wouldn’t have counted.
That is not silly. Go back and watch. He hesitates. He didn’t know what to do. It was clear when it happened and it was clear on the re-play. He just didn’t. How many times to you watch a player on a play that was clearly not a turnover, still return the ball like it was a turnover? That happens several times a game. Not with Nate. He clearly didn’t know what to do. After he thought about it, he thought its best to get out of bounds. Go re-watch.
You’re just piling on dude, there is lots to hate about that game with Nate, that play wasn’t one of them
no, I said it was a great play. I stand by it was a great play. Doesn’t mean he knew what his next step was. He was overwhelmed is all. The point is, he does not have that killer instinct. Again, great play.
eh, i thought yesterday would have been a great win. it’s not like we were playing the rams and gave up a 20pt lead in the 4th.
Any time FOles throws an INT, fans will automatically rip the win
With the trade deadline looming, any chance we can trade Nate Allen to the Chiefs for two Philly cheesesteaks maybe?
He’s not worth 2….
No, I thought Nate Allen + 2 cheesesteaks to Kansas City. I would never expect anything in return for that bum.
oh…lmao — yes, that does sweeten the pie.
That forced fumble and recovery was pretty good
no question that’s a great play. Game on the line, every play that happened prior then entire game, up to that point, doesn’t matter. If he makes that play, we’re talking about him like he’s superman today — instead, he’s just the same goat we all know…
So much blame, it was a very close game against a good team in their house. We missed a lot of opportunities and that’s frustrating. But the team was pretty impressive I thought, came away feeling we were the better team to be throwing potentially game winning balls at the end of the game. We just have to clean some stuff up and we are a contender. Probably should have leaned a littler heavier on McCoy and Polk, but I think loading up the box with a ton of people and bringing em all is discouraging us from running. Running worked out beautifully on that second to last drive. Would like to see more of that.
The big positive I came away with: Maclin is Legit. It can’t be denied anymore, he took it to an elite CB in this league, and continued his rampage after said CB got injured.
Good stuff mate
On the positive, I can assure you Sproles and Kelce won’t stand for this shit and will both be in the lineup on Sunday. Molk has done an admirable job all things considered but I hope to never see him outside of a preseason game ever again..l I miss my mountain man Kelce!!! Come save us oh scruffy one!!!
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Sproles looked like what chuck Liddell looks like watcing a fight on the sideline, he was moving like he was in the game lol. I laughed at how intense sproles was
5-2, we’re moving on to what looks like another great game. Can’t wait for this one…Love me some Kelce!!!!
Birds are 7-0 without injuries to the line, Sproles and Kendricks… Just handled the storm. now we get healthy and take care of business.. ride the wave that starts in HOUSTON. YES foles threw 2 Ints. . guys trying to make plays… threw the ball 60+ times.. 60+ with 2 picks.. its not good but its not what the game plan should have been..
2013 : oh no foles doesnt take risks…
2014 : foles takes to many risks..
2015: FOLES IS THE MAN..
lets go, stay positive..
You must not be familiar with my posts… Lol preaching to the choir mate, I know we got the rigjt gunslinger, just some Monday morning mourning lol
my bad. shoulda posted to the main comments not to respond to yours haha. ur posts a insightful keep em up.
Cheers mate… If I know this locker room like I think I do, they will take this out on the Texans!!! Fast forward this week please
I thought Sproles might come out of halftime in full gear haha… love his HEART.. great leader for the squad.
He is such a mini Gangsta, I love that tiny bad ass. What an addition to offense and ST
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Cody dynamite foot Parkey is no joke… Seen him consistntky hit 67yard FG in warm ups
I would have let him kick(or attempt) that fg right before the half…
Agree with that. 62yds, sure, but let’s see what this kid’s leg is made of. He misses, no big deal, pat on the back at half time for giving it a go.
If you were given the opportunity to run an NFL offense for 10 throws, What do you think your stat line would look like? I think 2 of 8, 5 yds, 3 INT, is a reasonable expectation for a guy off the street, not an NFL quarterback… The Geno Smith era might have just ended.
I’m not exaggerating, Maclin and Emmanuel Sanders combined, beat my fantasy opponent lol
That play to Fitz…was that open all day and they were just waiting to call it or was that a 1/2 time adjustment? Or did they just get lucky?
from birds 24/7
Among quarterbacks who have attempted at least 100 passes, here are the ones with a worse INT% than Foles: Blake Bortles, Kirk Cousins, Geno Smith, Jake Locker, Teddy Bridgewater and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Here are qualifying QBs with a worse passer rating: EJ Manuel, Locker, Bridgewater, Bortles, Smith. Two of those five are rookies, and the other three have been benched.
And?
no commentary, just stats. i will add it’s amazing we look so good thus far. speaks to the team effort we get every week.
Good. I though for a minute you were screaming for Sanchez. 😉
nope, but foles has to get better.
Agree.
at least put something in perspective instead of throwing out broad comments…Geno Smith — what were his first quarter numbers yesterday?
3 first quarter INTs lol
exactly.
Fuck home field advantage
Fuck a first round bye
I WANT Cardinals in the first round of the playoffs. Our house, their house, I don’t even care. That team is not better than us..and I don’t want a bye, I want to bounce them bitches out of the first round!! Going to become a big Niners fan the rest of the year.
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Don’t think I can enjoy a Super Bowl win this year without getting to kick arians ass. That is NOT a better team then us.
they aren’t better than us, that’s what’s frustrating i think we’re the best team in the nfc.
That drives me crazy.. I can accept losing to a better team, but we are too good of a team to not take care of business against inferior teams..
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Damn I miss Sproles!
sproles can’t be the lynchpin to the team.
he can be the spark plug though….
I wish he could play safety.
I wish he could play QB. Heh heh…
Dude.. Subtracting mathis, Kelce and Sproles is a huge loss
Let’s make the playoffs first, shall we?!
We are,going to the playoffs. We aren’t losing this division..l let the Cowboys worry about making the playoffs, I’m making playoff plans 😉
No, they just made far less mistakes than we did. We turned the ball over in the redzone twice. Even if we just walk away with FGs, we are sitting at 26 points.
teams that gain 500yds typically score in the neighborhood of 400 points. AZ defense did what we try to do, bend but don’t break.
400 points is just a tad high to ask for… 🙂
Russel Wilson plays like shit, puts up 13 points, loses his locker room to the point where his teammates are questioning “if he is black enough(lol society is disgusting), their RB refuses to speak to the coaches…today Russel is a hero and our fans want nicks head lol
winning can make players a team
but it doesn’t change the fans perspective on a player…I’m thinking that’s his point…
Time to focus on the Texans.
I like Foles but the bottom line is he’s turned over the ball too often this year. The Redzone turnovers are especially alarming.
Birds are 7-0 without injuries to the line, Sproles and Kendricks…
Just handled the storm. now we get healthy and take care of business..
ride the wave that starts in HOUSTON. YES foles threw 2 Ints. . guys
trying to make plays… threw the ball 60+ times.. 60+ with 2 picks..
its not good but its not what the game plan should have been..
2013 : oh no foles doesnt take risks…
2014 : foles takes to many risks..
2015: FOLES IS THE MAN..
lets go, stay positive..
Oh no, didn’t realise the Eagles play at Houston. Oh boy, that will be tough.
Birds at Texans next week… says google.
It is an away game. Next home games is Carolina. U r right
I am afraid this game in Houston will be even tougher than yesterday. Especially if JJ that’s Watt’s Up scores early then their crowd will go crazy.
if he scores as a TE (again) not as bad as if he strips foles or gets a Pick 6.. but your right if that guy scores and hits us with the NAE NAE dance or takes a “selfie” that’ll get the crowd going..
If he Nae Nae us im going to be so mad lol. Hope we knock Fitz out the game
Fitzpatrik is not beating us
the front 7 will FEAST next week.. SACK LUNCH.. nom nom nom nom
watt and clowney?
Lol loved watching watt mock Metenburg for all the selfies he took, and then he talked shit bout mettle berg acting like a high school kid in the press conference,, I love watt. I can’t help it. I love him
Give Fitzpatrick the beating of his life. Hit him so hard his Harvard educated brain turns into a community college moron,.. Hit him so hard his nappy beard falls off!!… Oh and if it’s not to much to ask, don’t let Watt murder our young QB. Take the holding penalty if you have to, keep that savage off our young QB
Wonder how the Texans ST is… That RB Blue they have is a good ST player, we stole Braman from them
I’m going to jinx Houston by grabbing their defense in fantasy. I’m normally the jinx to a team when that happens. I wished I picked up Dallas this week though to jinx them…
I’m gonna root for Colt McCoy and Desean like I bleed red and gold tonjght(even tho I kind of do bleed red and yellow, the color s of the Roman Empire lol, I’m a S.P.Q.R SOLDIER!!!)
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Go skins!!
AMEN!!!! I’m with you on this. I’m going to put on a hog nose tonight too to bring back some old mojo…
Seeing Americas team MY ASS lose to Colt might be almost as great as an eagle win… Break out the fake pig noses!!!
Wonder if the loss makes us hit the phones a little harder before the trade deadline….. Keep in mind that all the skills don’t matter, if you don’t have the right character we won’t trade for you… That’s why I find the V-Jax rumor hard to believe
is vjax a bad guy? what have you heard?
Nothing crazy… But a 6’5 talent who his second team is ok trading away, probabky not the ideal team mate… Tho I don’t know any specifics so don’t quote me…
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Just think if he was a model team mate, a team trying to develop young QBs would keep a 6’5 security blanket around
they’re rebuilding, he’s 31 and tradable, i get it.
He’s had some DUI’s and is a bit of a prima dona.
Saints did us a solid beating GB.
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We need the lions to lose a game or two
They may have lost their best DL man too…
Jake long tired is cal, Jimmy smith having MRIO on foot, Fairley knee injury is said to be “bad”, Rogers tweaked Hammy…
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We came out of the game healthy, dodged a MAclin concussion and are,getting Sproles, Kelce back and mathis the week after!
Perspective: Andrew luck got blown out on the road, threw for 400yards on 26/45 3TDs(garbage time) and two INTs…
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My boys DONTE Moncrief and Allen Robinson are beasts
Russel Wilson. 20-32″ 199yards 1td 1 int…put up 13pts coming off a two game losing streak
sCAM NEWTON 12-22 171yards 1INT, No TDs! Dude started over 50 NFL games already
I guess they are all bums then.
Just young QBs, still working shit out in a league where it’s very tough to win games…
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Our fans are absurd and lost their minds because of the insane offense they saw last year.. Last year, our QB literally played behind an elite run game and the best OL in franchise history… That’s very different from playing behind this offense….fortunately, our injured studs are coming back and we have the coaching we need, so I’m assuming, health willing, we see the offense we know and love get hot in time for play offs…but we can’t suffer key injuries. Young QB needs all hands on deck
Can’t call Flacco a young QB anymore, either. Seventh season.
Flacco 17-34 195yards NO TDs, 2 INT.. 100million dollar SB winner
Dalton 21-28 266yards NO TD, 1 INT
Tannahill 16-29 196yards 1TD, 1INT
You think we should of taken Moncrief over Huff?
That loss goes to their Defense more then Luck though
I woulda took Moncrief over jordan too. Def A Rob over huff, but Arob got picked before huff
Hey anon,
are you up for watching the Eagles together at Shorty’s coming Sunday?
As you may know me by now, I am more like a “cautiously optimistic” person rather than living on a rosy pony farm.
That being said I really hope that our losses against two direct playoff contenders in the NFC won’t come back to haunt us.
The Cardinals are sitting pretty well at 6-1, having the tiebreaker in their favour. While the Niners “only” sit at 4-3, they will be in a better shape at the end of the season when players like Aldon Smith will re-join them. They have also the tiebreaker against us.
Looking around the NFC it is getting clearer that all divisions – expect the NFC South – can send two teams into the playoffs.
That’s why the games against the Packers and Seahawks will be huge from a playoff implications point of view.
I can live with the Eagles losing to the Texans, an AFC Team, but we better win against the direct playoff contenders in the NFC. We already have two losses against NFC teams and cannot really afford to lose much more.
We can’t loose to Texans especially since I have the Packers as a lost. Our CBs vs Rodgers is no contest
Our CBs vs Rodgers is no contest
I am pretty sure most of the Saints fans have thought this as well…
Johnny Philly Football? Trade….
I know I write this a lot, but many of the current Eagles were 4-12 just two seasons. Foles isn’t the only one who’s got to improve. Bringing in Sproles and Jenkins was really smart, because the turning point has not been fully achieved. The Eagles don’t have to believe they’re an elite team, they have to know it. And when they know it we will al see it. 5-2 with both losses within reach, ain’t bad. This is a great season so far.
Dude, why do you have to keep defending Foles after EVERY game? Every game he shows why he is not a long term solution and yet you keep saying “He’s got to play better” He’s not going to play better. He sucks and got real lucky last year. Keep it real, man.
I think the mindset with Foles right now has to be what Tommy said. He’s somewhere between an OK quarterback, and a very inconsistent passer. This loss is on my nerves just as much as any other Eagles fan out there, and I admit I never thought harder about having to shoe Sanchez in as now, but moving on from Foles right now is just not the case. We would ruin whatever chance of him being the guy moving forward there is. Also, there’s a reasonable chance he adjusts better to a situation like the one we saw at the end of the game.
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