Dominated
Posted: November 16th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 202 Comments »The Eagles simply got whipped on Sunday. Green Bay scored on offense, defense and STs. They controlled the LOS. They flat out dominated the Eagles and won 53-20.
Please don’t start ripping the team for playing with no heart or Chip Kelly not having the team ready to play. Those are generic criticisms sports fans use over and over without any real meaning or thought behind them. Green Bay won this game because of execution and talent, not effort. Aaron Rodgers made some sensational throws. Jordy Nelson made some impressive catches. Randall Cobb was able to elude tacklers after the catch on multiple plays. Their blockers did a great job of engaging defenders and sustaining blocks.
Domination.
This doesn’t mean the Eagles are suddenly a bad team or got exposed. Look around the NFL and just about every good has been blown out at some point this season. Green Bay lost at New Orleans 44-23.
The Eagles are still 7-3 and atop the NFC East. Dallas is also 7-3, but has a worse record within the division. This is still a good season and things are still wide open. The Eagles have to learn from the mistakes in today’s game and then quickly move on. All teams lose games. Good teams avoid losing streaks. Don’t ignore today’s problems, but also don’t obsess on today’s results. The Eagles weren’t the best team in the league after dominating the Panthers. They aren’t the worst team in the NFL after getting dominated by the Packers.
Green Bay was clearly the better team today. This was the best we’ve seen any opponent play all year. The Eagles can benefit from this. They know how well they need to play the next time they are in a big game. The Eagles have been sloppy all year, win or lose. That isn’t going to cut it in the postseason. You must be able to step your game up.
The Eagles saw what a real title contender looks like today. The Cardinals are 9-1,but I came away from that game frustrated that the Eagles didn’t win since Arizona didn’t really impress me. Today was different. I’m not even mad at the players for some of what happened today. When Rodgers plays like that, I’m not sure what you’re supposed to do.
The Eagles did make a ton of individual mistakes today and that is what turned this into a blowout. I’ll go more into that angle and talk about the play of Mark Sanchez later tonight or in the morning.
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T-Law:
Hear, hear.
1 game in a long, strange NFL season.
Remember 2004 against the Steelers?! #Eagles
Different. 2004 McNabb is aeons better than foles(this year) or sanchez. plus, we had a defense that year
The new problem is the old problem. DBs are below average, and the QB play isn’t good enough. Playoff contenders, not title contenders. 2013 all over again with 1 good 1 bad safety, instead of 2 bad ones. 1 and done if we win the division.
Think you’re mistaken on the QB play not being good enough.
To be a true contender? It most certainly isn’t
The Eagles will put a beat-down on the Titans.
That said . . . I hope Kelly pulls the starters early w/ a Thursday game following.
who cares if we beat a crap team? beating up on the dregs accomplishes nothing when we can’t beat playoff caliber teams
You miss my point. Perhaps you should have read the second paragraph.
My point is, unlike today when down 30 points, I HOPE KELLY RESTS THE STARTERS FOR THE DALLAS GAME.
Assuming he’s in a position to.
Beating play off team doesn’t really matter, but we did beat luck on his house… What matters is that we grow to be capable of beating playoff teams by January. The deal was always supposed to be that we are a well coached, high Charecter hard working group that will grow and improve as the season goes on…the main part is staying healthy, if we can do that we should be ready to play with the top teams by January.
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This year. Was never about who we were…who we were was never going to be enough…it was about who we would grow to be in January…hopefully the QB change and this ass whooping hasn’t taken us too far off course..
Consistently losing to quality teams breeds doubt in your mind no matter how high character the team is.
Before today, GB literally loss to every good team it faces. They were blown out 3 times. We beat the colts… After GB got blown out every time it played a good team, 3 times in less than 10 games…they destroyed us today, we were to them, our “Colts win”… Both the Eagles and GB are 1-3 against winning teams, being a prisoner of the moment says that they are about 40 points better than us…we have seen most of our players consistently play better than today. It was alarming, and the QB unknown is not comfortable…but we know for a fact by now that many of our players are capable of much better then what they uncharecteristically provided today….
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We can’t afford more than 1 more loss Tho. 12-4 needs to be the mark
The big problem on D is our entire secondary is slower than Dawkins on his couch right now.
The big problem on O is TOs, inconsistent QB play, Shady isn’t shady anymore, OL is marginal, and the sudden case of Drops! by everyone on Offense
There is literally no result that would change how I think about this team at all.
Gonna have to wait for Thanksgiving. And I think we’ll win that game, but mostly because the Cowboys aren’t very good.
My big problem?
I thought this was potentially a Super Bowl team in a wide-open NFC. Actually? GB and Arizona are a cut above the other teams in the conference.
No disagreement from me.
All I’m saying is, rest the starters if possible.
Fair!
At the beginning of the year, I picked GB to win the NFC. I’m finally convinced AZ is for real. And I’m enough of a homer to argue the Eagles are #3. There’s a lot of season left for my #3 team to position itself for the playoffs.
yea a beat down of the sad sack titans is just what the birds need to convince themselves once again they are a legit contender
I had the very same thought.
Starting to think shady is over the hill. Not hitting the holes like he used to, indecisive, and looks like more people are catching him from behind than ever before. For such a small back, that huge workload might have killed him. Thinking that chipper needs a bigger rb in the nfl than he had at oregon. more contact, bigger hits and more time commited to a single player means ability to take a pounding may be better than elusiveness. just a thought, but he doesn’t seem nearly as effective as last year.
Reminds me a lot of Clinton Portis after his one huge year. Very sad to see him decline so quickly.
He misses Vick, is more like it.
Most of Shady’s big games last year were with Foles.
Yep. Feast on that tidbit.
Foles has been underwhelming (to say the least) this year, but no way I’m letting your anti-Foles hatred get in the way of actual facts.
Most of his rep and career was built on Vick, and I’d say that most defenses needed to regear fully in order to natively run anti-Foles-offense defenses.
Remember all those Marty stretch-runs? With Vick, he had a string of people who he could get one on ones. With Foles and Sanchez, the defense runs to the ball a split second faster than if it had been Vick at QB.
I don’t think Shady has lost a step. He was always a bit on the mediocre side when it comes to top speed or strength. Without Vick, his weaknesses are far more accessible.
Understood that he had some big games with Foles in ’13, but much of that was against fairly discombobulated defenses like Green Bay, Detroit, and Dallas.
Stop trying to argue with shah. Some claims are so stupid they’re not even worth acknowledging and the idea that McCoy went from great last year to mediocre this year because of the effect on defenses of a quarterback who was on the bench for most of the season is one of them.
Timing is off with him and the Oline,,, been playing with too many different variations of lineman… Timing is all off, ATleast today it was…he actually ran we the last few weeks.. I thought today would be our chance to get it going, but we could never get shady in the groove going down by so much right away..can’t blame shady too much…Rogers put so much pressure on us, we couldn’t establish a run game if we wanted to
It definitely makes me feel a lot better that the Eagles don’t have as much talent as the Packers, but still played with as much effort.
So it wasn’t a totally wasted day, you learned something.
Maybe I’m just being a homer, but a HUGE portion of this loss is on the equipment manager. None of our guys had footing the entire first half. Even though the team still played poorly in the second half, they didn’t look as outmatched on either side of the ball as they did in the first half. I suspect they switched up cleats at halftime.
Then that’s on the Eagles
Totally their fault, and poor decision whoever made it, I just refuse to believe that the Packers are 33 points better of a team.
I think we need to accept the fact that talent-wise, we are still a ways away from super bowl contention. maybe the equippment was bad, but you still need to make plays, and bad footing has nothing to do with bonehead decisions. That said, I hope you are right and the eagles arent this bad
I think we need to accept the fact that game-wise, this was subzero temps against one of the best teams at one of the most advantageous stadiums in the league. A game is not a season.
I wonder that if the Packers was frauds in the eyes of GEAGLES, what does that make us?
7-3 lol
100% just that go back read his comments about the Packers yesterday
The two sad things: 1) You knew it would happen but it still hurts. 2) Joe Buck AS Kommentator. Can’t stand anything from this dwarf.
Not sure you can learn anything from this game. I would skip the video session and carry on to the Tennessee “Cheap shot’ Titans.
Rodgers is having his Big Ben stretch of games, and will inevitably come back down to earth. No way to sugar coat this loss or what it means. The fact of the matter is the Eagles are still 7-3 and atop the division. The troubling thing however is they are 1-3 against playoff teams (0-3 vs NFC). Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but this seems to be Chip’s track record dating back to Oregon, beating up on average teams and pretty much dominating them offensively, but when his teams played the Boise State’s or Auburns or Stanfords they hit an offensive wall. Look at the Saints playoff game last season, the Eagles were offensively challenged. They need to get things right really quick or they could be on the outside looking in. A first round playoff exit is unacceptable too, especially if it’s at home. I’m still hopeful things will continue to roll and they find themselves in a Divisional Round playoff game.
Good perspective, Tommy. Just 1 game.
Sanchez had a minor concussion on his first sack, just like Foles in first Dallsa game a year ago. He was down and out the whole game.
Sometimes, a butt-kicking gets your game in higher gear. We will need it going down the stretch
That first sack was a helmet-to-helmet that wasn’t called.
as was the second
Until we make real changes in our secondary, we will continue to come up short against the elite teams. This was the 2013 Denver game all over again. Just like Peyton, ARod ripped our secondary to shreds. Two of our franchise’s top 5 losses of all time came at the hands of these two QBs in back to back years. Similar to the playoff last year. Did anyone really have confidence in our secondary to make a play with the game on the line? No.
I definitely think we have more than enough talent to be considered SB contenders. The problem is, our talent isn’t evenly dispersed and our weakness is far, far too significant to overcome. Today was just a reminder of that.
I still love this team and am very much looking forward to seeing them respond to this loss. This was just a cold reminder that we aren’t there yet.
Playoffs last year aren’t even in this same conversation. We were in that game until the final play, and that was a failure on run defense.
But my point still stands. Do you have faith that our defense/secondary can step up against an elite QB come playoff time? Fortunately for us, the only one we might have to face is ARod.
Oh, no, I assumed Rodgers would eat us alive (and caught flack for saying so over on Tommy’s site). But we did very well against the Saints, comparatively. Maybe that’s what home field gets you…
the game was lost at the line of scrimmage, both sides of the ball.
of course there were dropped passes, missed open receivers,missed tackles, missed coverages, etc…ad nauseam
Eagles are 2 years and an actual QB away from being title contenders. Lets hope Chip and Co don’t trick themselves in to thinking the QB answer is on the roster.
Talk about overreaction.
we have 1 competent player in the secondary. and no QBs good enough to win a SB. that’s not an overreaction, just fact.
Perhaps an opinion?
Who do we have that you think is capable of raising their play to elevate this team come playoff time
Nicky Flash could in theory. He’s done it before so I don’t see why he can’t do it again….
Well in this “before time” he wasn’t backpedaling like a bear on a unicycle and throwing INTs like Eli
Our secondary did fine in last years playoff game. We certainly didn’t lose the playoff games because of our secondary and it’s much I proved from last year…
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.., they also just had a good month so I’m not really sure what you are talking about. Every defense has to Hit a good QB to stand a chance…we didn’t do that today, thus an elite QB put the ball where his WR could only get it and we got our ass kicked, But our pass rush is better than what we saw today
No, today was a test to see if the pass rush was legitimate or not. Failed test.
Today was a test to see if the running game(O-line) was in fact improving, edging towards legitimacy. Again.failed test.
Riley Cooper stepped out of bounds rather than take a hit two times tonight.
What a pussy.
It also looks like Sanchez needs a few more reps with him to get used to his lack of speed.
I remember when we got trounced by Denver last year and we did well enough to make the playoffs.
Hopefully, we won’t see them this year and last longer than they will.
I have midterms coming up and couldn’t watch this one (seems like I had good timing), but I’ll just second what Tommy said – games like this happen from time to time. And they needn’t define a season. In 2008, the Eagles blew out the Cardinals 48-20 at home on Thanksgiving, looking the better team by miles, but in the playoff rematch in Arizona it was a different story and the Cardinals went to the Super Bowl. Losses like this test a team’s resilience. Let’s see how they bounce back next week.
The Cardinals also got absolutely blasted that year by a Patriots team that went 11-5 and didn’t even make the playoffs. That score was even worse, 47-7. They got hot at the right time. The Packers are hot, and it may continue, but it’s not impossible to think the Eagles could be that team.
Peyton Manning: 7 points against the Rams.
Nick Foles: 34 points against the Rams.
Get well Nick…
Uh, 14 of those were ST and defense. Without those the Eagles would have lost. Just FYI.
You really need to drink some of this kool aid, dude…
haha that’s funny.
Yes, it is EXTREMELY frustrating we are losing to these playoff teams. I’m not even going to argue that but it also really sucks we have to play ALL of these playoff teams AWAY.
Is this how it usually is as far as playing this many good teams at their house or is it just an anomaly? Its not like we were getting blown out by the playoffs teams except for tonight. We almost (only counts in hand grenades and horshoes) beat the Cards and 9’ers if we get an easy catch by Riley and 1 more yard against the Cards.
1-3 vs. quality teams (Colts, 49ers, Cards, Pack). Need I say more? Talent gap? Yep. Coaching gap? IDK. What brainiac calls a play that leaves the QB alone vs. unblocked Clay Matthews, let alone in the red zone, with a chance to get back in the game? Or was it just bad execution? Either way, coach has to take some blame. SMH on the Eagles.
I really don’t care. Let’s beat the Titans and Cowboys and we control our own destiny. There no gimmies in today’s NFL.
I want to crushezzz the Cowboys.
Yeah, it’s all about how we play against bad teams. Forget how we play against good teams!
You’re still missing the point. Apart from the fact that if we beat the 8-3 Cowboys that counts as a win against a good team, right?!
That I will agree with! Any win against the Cowboys is a positive.
At least.
I understand you try to keep it real and your head out of the sand but is there EVER a bright side?
Keeping the Cowboys out of the playoffs would be a bright side, definitely. Even if we’re one and done, at least we had our shot!
THERE WE GO!!!! Nice! See now we are both a bit happier 🙂
John, are you a bit Down on the Eagles. *see what I did there?*
Took me a minute. Good to find a reason to laugh tonight.
Yes, I see Mitchell. Very clever. You think you’re the first person to make a “funny” with my last name?
No, probably not, but it’s the first time I have seen you on here so I thought I’d give you a warm welcome!
I usually don’t post on this site, but I stuck my neck out this time and a few Eagles fans jumped up to chop it off, figuratively speaking. Guess that’s how they do things up there?
Bad point. Colts, 49ers, and Cards were all 50/50 games. Literally all of them could have been losses, or all of them could have been wins. Just the way the ball bounces. The only bad loss we’ve had so far is the Packers.
You speaking some realistic language here my friend.
No, good point actually. Depends if you’re a half full or half glass type of guy.
If coop catches two passes, they beat both those teams.
Bad point? How about that great offense the Eagles put on in SF? 0 points. A mistake-prone 49ers offense and a good defense for at least half a game kept the Eagles in that one. How about the red zone play calls there? You like those? Agree they played decently vs. Cards and could have won that one. Eagles are competitive, so we’ll see what happens in the last 6 games.
I’d point out all 4 of those games against quality teams were on the road – makes a big difference in the NFL. I’d agree that the Eagles don’t have a good enough QB (I’m a skeptic of Foles) and we have some holes on d. Still, this is a good team.
As to Kelly, we’re lucky to have him as a coach. Individual play calls aren’t what make a coach good.
It could be argued the hardest road game in the NFL is in Lambaeu with the temps below 0.
I never said the Eagles were not a good team. Agree they have holes to fill on D. Yesterday’s loss was a complete failure in all 3 game phases against a team of superior talent.
@SF: LOSS
@ARI: LOSS
@GB: LOSS
That’s life. Tough games against good teams on the road. It sucks we lost all three, but that’s life.
We’re still 7-3, and have only lost to teams that were favored to beat us. Losing by a goal line stand or by being humiliated doesn’t change the impact of the loss.
The humiliation will, I think, do us some good.
Yeh, if we lost to, say the Rams, we would just brush it off as “one of those games you have every year.” Since we lost to good teams on the road, we are not very good. I wonder if people would rather have lost to a crappy team and win against one of these three?
if we’d beat SF and ARI i’d be ok dismissing a loss to the rams.
like I said before: the Titans is not a trap game anymore and I only start worrying if we lose this.
That’s not really a good argument when the 49ers and Cards games were so close to the wire. Every other team has been blown out this season, we were the last team left, after the Seahawks. They’re the only team that has not been blown out now. That includes the Packers, the Saints, the 49ers, Patriots, Broncos, etc.
Dude. Chillax. As Rodgers would say.
It wasn’t an argument but a question. Basically if we win against a playoff team, is it ok if we lose to a crappy one?
true, but we need to beat a good team before it’s all said and done. i don’t think we have a win over a better than.500pct team this year. agree with you about this doing some good. this loss can teach us a lot more than a easy blow out against a bad panthers team.
@IND: WIN!
to put it into perspective Denver’s gotton whooped the last two weeks, including by the rams. bad games happen to everyone.
A win would have been great but what counts are the Dallas games. Games like this happen to most teams once in a season. Beat Dallas twice and this will be forgiven. But it really was awful.
Until we meet them in the playoffs? This game means way more than our regular season record.
yeah can’t lose every game you play against a playoff team. i’m sure that fact isn’t lost on the players or the FO.
We knew defense was our problem after last season, and on a night where Green Bay’s 1st round pick was very visible it’s hard not to think about how the Eagles 2014 defensive draft has been almost a complete wash-out at this point.
If it wasn’t for 7th round Beau Allen you could say we’ve gotten nothing defensively from our 2014 draft.
And if it wasn’t for Bennie Logan, you could say we got nothing defensively out of the 2013 draft.
It’s a pity they play the same position… Howie and Chip better get much better at drafting defense or we are going to be in for many days like this in the future when we play against top teams.
Thank god we found NTs in consecutive drafts. they are notorious for stopping the passing game
Off-topic:
I still love Shady, but when will we start to see Sproles get more carries. I keep hearing the excuse ‘it’s easier to rack up yards as a change of pace back on less carries’, but that rings hallow to me at this point. Dude hits the hole was
how many balls you want to give a 30yo 5’4″ running back if you’re hoping to get to the playoffs?
this is a very good point. maybe not carries but i would give him more touches/opportunities as a receiver
yeah it’s boykin syndrome. but agree be nice to find him more ways to get involved.
It seemed like he was running out of the backfield on 3rd downs as a receiver. I checked the stats and he was targeted six times and caught two passes.
As many as he can handle, based on his production…
is kelly of the mindset less is more? as in like boykins/curry are used situationaly on D maybe they think to maximize sproles you don’t over use him. idk just a guess.
Today really sucked, we all know that. I came out of watching the game with one concern, wtf is going on with McCoy? Seriously
OL played crazy last year and once shady gets clean to second level it’s crazy. But when you only run 3 run plays people can beat it. The problem with shady is (a) on running lanes and (b) he’s not going to run over anyone. If there’s no space he’s going down whereas lynch is going through people. Lots of times if shady can beat the shallow dback it’s a td.
There is more than that, though. Shady isn’t giving the ball to the official after the play. He is watching the replay on the stadium screen while everyone else is running to set up. He is sitting on the ground hitting his leg after he slips. I am beginning to wonder if Shady is going to get the DeSean treatment.
Seriously. I get so sick of him throwing fits when he doesn’t hit a big run. Maybe he is lacking heart because he is not getting his td’s and big plays. If that is the case you can bet your last sentence is correct and if it is I hope we get more than we got for Desean.
I actually think it’s something a lot different than that. I think he’s been dealing with concussion issues that he somehow either faked out of the test protocol or has failed to report. He just doesn’t look like himself on or off the field. He just seems fogged up to me.
You don’t see him pout like a baby every time he goes down?
I see a top tier athlete moving, reacting, thinking and speaking out of tune with his usual self. I see him frustrated at not performing at the level he expects to. I see a lot of what I see in most other athletes of his caliber who’ve tried to play through concussions or concussion symptoms.
Shady is cooked. i’d be more surprised if he’s on the team next season than if he’s traded
He’s just not near as elusive and shifty at the second level. Also, he’s just looked so indecisive out there. He’s not breaking tackles at the second level whereas many other backs would. I get that he’s a finesse back. But, he could learn a few things from Jamaal Charles – another speedy back with a similar build (perhaps even more slim). J.Charles never quits – he keeps his legs churning through defenders and is not afraid to dip his shoulder and get whatever extra yards he can get.
Of all the times, places and teams to hand us a beatdown – Packers at a snowy Lambeau with a 7-2 record is probably as good as it gets. We are tied for first against a team we play twice. We got 6 more games of regular season to get the loser stink off and be confident again. Plus getting annihilated in this game is the best possible result for a playoff rematch, either home or in GB. Everyone will pick GB, every Eagle will have a chip the size of Chip on their shoulder, they’ll have already played a snowy, cold game there. They will go to war in that game after having their manhood trampled this afternoon. At least this is what I’m telling myself.
ha, everyone picked GB this time.
Denver lost to the friggin Rams today, by double digits. I think we can live with getting some humble pie against the best of the best QB in the game who was just ridiculuos today…
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My script had us going 12-4, so if this is the “Denver game” we have to step up, clean up some ish and play good football down the stretch, and hopefully our “Minesota game” will come against a team that doesn’t matter….. The only scary part is the Sanchez unknown….
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Stick to the script and win 12 games, that’s enough to win the division…
Watching the SNF, it always freakin’ bugs me how a big guy like Luck has an arm comparable to Ryan or Bridgewater. I keep expecting something like what the rapist does.
This is one of those interesting angles for gamblers, like that Broncos being favored by three in the Super Bowl… People are crazy about Luck, but if you see the right sort of defense that doesn’t really make mistakes, there will always be Luck-stans you can take money from, if you’re the sort of fool to gamble on football.
so what did we learn from this game;
can’t turn the ball over
have to be sound on STs
execute in the redzone
if we can’t get a pass rush on a good qb our 2ndary is going to get gashed
really can’t turn the ball over
wait a second…we already knew all this shit! so we literally learned nothing from today.
which makes the blowout pointless
Looks like people are going with the “can’t beat playoff teams” meme now. Guys–this team was never that good. This game doesn’t change my opinion either way. They never had more than a puncher’s chance of going deep in the playoffs. Without Foles, they may not even have that. However, the division is still in play, and the season will have been a success if they can snag it.
lol Foles. He was playing below average before his injury this year (literally: his stats put him below the league’s average QB play). He’s no savior for this team.
yeah i don’t understand how people think he’d be any better. qb is eerily similar between the two players
One QB is a limited passer, and slow.
The other QB can’t handle stress, and goes kerblooie whenever things go pear.
The former does what he can do reasonably well.
The latter can run a full passing offense.
/me shrugs.
Pick your poison. Right now, I’d prefer Sanchez, because a regular offense could build a lead or keep in the game such that Sanchez keeps his head. Whereas Foles, if he can’t get his plays, is pretty much sunk.
How do things go pear? Why not peach or apple?
Not arguing with his poor play but why is it unfathomable that he can’t play better than he was before the injury?
I think he will, but he was horrid this year. I think either a) he was playing injured, b) thinking too much about last year’s stats, or c) all of the above.
Foles was mostly sucking, but he’s still the same person who put up historical numbers last year and is in Canton. Sanchez has never given any indication he will ever be even a decent QB.
I don’t disagree with you on either point.
Definitely possible he plays better after. Just look at last year.
Sure, being on the bench could motivate him to clean up his play, but if the threat of losing his job is what it takes, that’s still a question towards his long term viability.
i disagree. this team can be very good. it can also be very bad like today. it’s a young team that’s developing and needs to find consistency. that’s hard to do with a backup qb and all the o line injuries we’ve had this year. the defense especially is still developing. when the pass rush doesn’t get there our 2ndary (which is prob our biggest achilles heel) will get destroyed.
better pass protection and limiting turnovers will give the offense a chance to keep us in games the rest of the year.
It’s actually been pretty consistent all year. The special teams have been great, the defense good, the offense bad. There are reasons/excuses, but this has been the performance, by and large. This has been good enough, to this point, to beat a bunch of mediocre/bad teams and lose to a few good teams. Today is an outlier unless it is repeated.
Offense is bad despite coming into this game scoring 31 pts/game which was 4th in the NFL? Defense has been mediocre coming into today and got lite up today.
I think that’s a team score.
I’m not down with using pts/game to show how well they’re playing, way too much noise to mean anything. Football Outsiders ranked the O 17th. Advanced Football Analytics 13th. This was _before_ Greenbay, and after the Carolina and NY games. D ranked 6th and 9th respectively. They have ridden the D and special teams (ranked 1st) this season. That is not going to work in the playoffs, supposing they get there and performance continues in the same vein.
This is going to be an unbearable week
been a weird season. Team has a lot of opportunities to define what it is. Titans will hopefully be a nice bounceback game.
Moral Victory: No injuries! And that’s prob more important than even getting the win.
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No injuries means Tobin and Lane have another week to get used to playing next to each other, Kelce and Maths are one week closer to getting back to their normal selves… I expected our OL/run game to have a breakout, but togs put up too many points for us to have any chance at really implementing a fun game…. We need it to click soon, because I’m not sure Sanchez will be good enough to win without any run game.
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We need to have our breakout run game against Ray Hortons Titan defense. Not only does the OL have to be better, but shady and the OL need to get their timing down, it was way off today, which isn’t surprising considering how many different lineman we played with this year….but hopefully the continuity we get from not suffering any more injuries will solve a lot of the issues
Yeah I think that timing showed up quite a bit today. They have a game they should win this week and maybe finish knocking off that rust in time to beat Dallas on turkey day.
I’m thankful I have a busy week. By time I start to have time, it’ll be Friday night and 2 days before the game.
You’re right Tommy about a lot of things, but I’m human and need someone to blame. So I’m going to continue to blame Fletcher. 🙂
I’ll blame Cooper.
My frustration really should be with Billy Davis. He never should have left Fletcher alone with either receiver.
In this game, if anything could go wrong it did. When special teams gives up a TD, that should tell us how the game is going. We get a sack, they come back and convert 3rd and long. We get a little momentum on offense, then they stall. This happens during the year and plenty of teams lose badly during the year.
They just need to come back this week and focus on getting better. Everyone is saying they haven’t hit their stride, so maybe that comes in the last few games.
well said. it doesn’t get any worst than when you’re half way through the 3rd quarter and kurt menefee’s big ass head pops up on the screen and tells you they’re switching you to a “more competitive game.”
learn from your mistakes, develop, get better, and go at it again next sunday.
One positive: they only had two offsides penalties off hard counts. Rodgers tried later in the game, and they didn’t fall for it. Progress!
Two positive comments on one thread!?!?!!? STOP! You are spoiling me. In all seriousness that is good but I’m sick of getting those pointless offsides penalties, glad they are learning.
haha, but for real i was really impressed that they weren’t falling for that hard count.
when rodgers was doing the dummy count it was like the d linemen’s bodies were encased in concrete, just completely statuesque. ofcourse when the ball was finally snapped they played the same way…
Rodgers doesn’t have that special, raspy voice.
raspy voice or not, we got discount double checked today
Off topic– The KC Chiefs, coached by a Mr. Andy Reid, threw the ball 16 times and ran 30 times today in their win over Seattle. Andy Reid, 30:16 run:pass ratio. The Earth may have tilted its axis.
A team ran 46 plays, and won, in 2014. My head hurts.
Just saw the best TD celebration ever by the Colts offensive lineman
Was that Space Invaders?
That’s a great description of what it looked like.
Today was not acceptable, simple as that. Im not trying to make excuses, we sucked today. That being said, we lost to Aaron Rodgers. It happens.
Colts getting whupped…discredits the Eagles win over them. Eagles must start over at ground zero.
What Colts getting whupped shows us is that sometimes a team gets beaten really badly. Read what Tommy said. A voice of reason. Blowouts happen. It’s not pleasant but that’s life.
The Pats got whupped by the Chiefs who lost to the Broncos who just lost by double digits to the Rams who we blew out before a huge comeback.
Nobody is dominating this season.
Repeating myself:
Willie McGuinest, who has 3 Super Bowl rings, told the story of how his team, the Patriots, absolutely stunk up the joint one time, got totally blown out. The whole team took a copy of the game film out behind the facility, dug a hole and buried it. They put it out of their minds and went back to get ready for the next game.
Sounds like a plan.
Sadly for us, they didn’t bury the copies of film they had on opponents’ practices…
Ouch. You’re right, although I was just thinking of a situation similiar to today. Maybe a good idea also:
Go to 0:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
Set that game film on FIRE!
This is pretty much how I dress on Saturday nights. Every once in a while I catch a lapel in an Uber door, but it’s worth it…
Made me laugh out loud!!
For the “we don’t beat winning teams, we suck, the sky is falling, I lack any perspective, everything is terrible” crowd:
All 4 playoff level teams we have played were on the road. We have gone (1-3).
The records of other good teams on the road vs. playoff level teams.
Broncos: (0-2)
Pats: (1-2)
Bengals: (1-2)
Cardinals: (1-1)
49ers: (1-2)
Seahawks: (0-2)
Cowboys: (1-0)
Packers: (0-2)
Lions: (0-1)
So chill.
Another voice of reason. And they were not all playing Rodgers and Nelson.
Sadly we are most likely going to be the 3rd seed right now which means we will most likely have to beat Rodgers and Nelson on home turf if we wants to go deep
Yes, this is the stat I was looking for. I thought it was strange/unfortunate we played 4 playoff teams ALL on the road…… WOOF.
Sucks huh. We get CAR and SEA at home. So there’s that.
We will be tempered like a fine blade.
Cowgirls confirmed to go to the Superbowl.
Broncos, Eagles, Colts all got their asses handed to them yesterday….
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Not the end of the world.. Bad loss, but it’s no Better or worse than the other losses and the wins…. Still on pace for 12-4… Don’t think we were going to finish 14-2, had to lose sometime…if you gotta lose, do it to one of the special QBs…
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Doubt the Rams are double digits better than the Broncos, doubt Colts are that much worse than the Patriots….no need to overeact lol but this is philly LOL
I’m not saying it erases all the pain of today’s performance, but laeagle and I were able to mitigate matters with a healthy dose of beer, bourbon, rum and Zeppelin…
I should have hung out with you this evening.
Prisoners of the moment, two games ago, Green Bay went to New Orleans and got blown out, while the Bengals we’re going thru a terrible slump and we were destroying teams. Two weeks later packers blow us out, Saints get blown out, Denver loses by double digits to a non playoff team…horrible day, crappy week ahead of us…but the most inportant part was NO INJURIES that allows is the much needed continuity that we are missing.
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Packers did their part and Rogers was awesome, but I doubt we would have beaten many teams today with our play. When our epic top ranked special team can’t cover kicks, fumbles returns and Donnie even has a bad day punting, it’s just not your day.
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Forget that GB was a playoff team, I doubt be would even have beaten the bucs today. We were just too sloppy. Just wish we knew what we had in Sanchez. The unknown at QB is the only reason this is worrisome…
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We still are on course for our 12-4 finish, and I’m not even sure where that 4th loss is coming from. We are capable of running the table qthr test of the way, but we can’t have stinkers like our top ranked ST playing like crap. Next we go to 8-3 vs Titans with a chance at getting some separation at 9-3 beating dallas on thankgiving
They aren’t going to finish the stretch 5-1. Not with 2 vs Boys, 2 NFC East games on the road, and a road trip to Seattle.
Thought they would finish 11-5 after the Cards game and still think that. Just a question of what happens with the Boys although the Eagles need to at least split with them.
We have Seattle at home. That helps.
Hell Seattle at home is the juggernaut we are used too. Seattles offense is not good right now unless Lynch can go wild.
lynch is best version of eddie lacy there is.
They went 7-1’last year, no reason why they can’t take one game at a time and win 5 against a pretty favorable schedule…
No more elite QBs on our schedule
I think we lose to either Dallas or Seahawks.
I think 11-5 or 12-4 is most realistic, unless we of course are worse than frauds?
Look at that, jordan mathews has hands after all…lol good,”scouting” by you…,see? I can play that senseless cunty game too
I agree with the no injuries being the biggest positive from last night. I still wouldn’t think too much ahead. One game at a time, my Eagles friend!
Does anyone worry about the inability to run the ball as we head down the stretch? When thinking about keys to going far in the playoffs i think about two things (1) pass rush and (2) ability to run the ball.
Kelly seems to say if the run isn’t working we’ll pass — equal opportunity. But in a game like today, a blowout. Should we have focused more on run plays just to get the line more reps together? Obviously we don’t have a Pro Bowl QB in Foles or Sanchez so asking them to carry a team with their arms is a little unfair.
Thoughts on both aspects?
OL stunk up the place today. Kelce still hasn’t had a great game since he has been back. Johnson has been up and down all year without nearly the same dominance in the run game. Even Peters has slipped a bit. Celek had to stay in a ton today and block unlike last week when he was going out a lot.
Even last week when everybody was praising the OL, I thought they didn’t play that well but instead it was more a combo of the Panthers’ inept front 7.
GB only had 3 sacks today but they had 17 hurries & hit Sanchez all day long. Did a great job too of not letting Sanchez set up into the pocket too while bringing pressure up the middle all day long. If I am an opposing DC, I love forcing Sanchez to roll out and tempt him to force throws across this body.
Way too often this year teams are getting pressure vs the Eagles OL even when they don’t blitz which was the case again today. Yeah Sanchez made a couple of poor decisions again today which helped to turn this game into a route but this OL needs to play better and alot better if the Eagles want to do anything meaningful this year including in the playoffs.
My prediction on the season:
– Beat the Titans next, lose the next 2 to Boys in Dallas and in Seattle and everybody losing their minds, and close out the season winning the final 3 games & clinching the NFC East at 11-5 because of the better NFC East record (5-1 vs 4-2 for Boys).
I think we win over the Hawks. Our defense match up well with their offense as in we can focus on Lynch and contain Wilson in the pocket.
We play Seattle at home
I just watched Matthews TD. Nice YAC from him fighting through traffic for once.
In more important news: what do you think of Buck’s and Aikman’s beards?! MaggieMagpie?
I only noticed that they were not their usual immaculate sports announ cer selves. Personally I do not think very highly of the current 3-day growth fad that so many males in the entertainment field seem to think is necessary. That is when I pay any attention to the entertainment industry at all, outside of some sports. Even more important is what do YOU think of them?? You are the one who even mentioned their “backwoods manly look”. ;~)
I think it suits Troy, Buck not so much. 😉
I’m sure the referees had something to do with this as well, since by letting the Packers’ O line get away with holding every down, they allowed a sure fire HOF’er sit back in the pocket and rip our D to shreds….then there were at least three obvious helmet to helmet calls they…er…missed, with each infraction carrying 15 yds and a first down.
It was disgrace that they were letting Sanchez take all those helmet hits…you know we would have been flagged had we hit Rogers like that…and yes, they allowed their OL to be “handsy” but we didn’t lose because of the refs….we didn’t show Up yesterday, we played too poorly across the board for the refs to have made much of a difference…
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I Also don’t think the refs where any where as bad as the putrid arizona game. That was a disgrace
The over reaction sure is in full effect. We got our asses handed to us, but I take solace in the fact that we would have lost to anyone the way we played yesterday. ..yesterday was not a fun experience, and I’m not exactky sure how you don’t get up for a game, with NFC supremacy on the line against the great Aaron Rogers during a week where the national media completly disrespected you? Not sure how you pick this game out of all the games, to not even show up. You don’t show up on Sunday, and you can lose to any team. Take Denver for example, I didn’t watch the game, but it’s probably safe to assume that the Broncos didn’t show Up yesterday. Highly doubt the Rams are double digits better than the Broncos…you don’t show up in this league you get your ass handed to you, that’s why I find people to be so absurd when they scoff at our wins…it’s not hard to lose in this league, all wins are to be respected, and if you don’t show Up each and every week, you get embarressed.
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We can debate over rated or under rated for the pffense, but there is nothing over rated about our Special team unit…you know your team didn’t show up when your entire special teams besides your place kicker stink up the joint.
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Still on pace for our 12-4 season…. No reason why we should lose more than 1 game against this schedule the rest of the way, and I struggle to even identify the one game we will lose….
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Never as good as it seems, never as bad as it seems…we will learn what we need to learn about this team seeing how they bounce back from such embarrassment…… Colts and Andrew Luck got destroyed at home by the pats yesterday, Peyton and Denver got destroyed by the Rams.. Are they in trouble? Probably not….you don’t show up, and you lose….mdont show up against an elite Qb, and you get embarressed..
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The only worrisome,dynamic really is the unknown at the QB position….. And the most important aspects is getting the OL where it needs to be and the run game going….without the Run game, Sanchez probably won’t be enough if we ask him to carry the offense….Sanchez was bad, but equally disturbing is the team not rallying around him, stepping Up their play for the backüp QB…Sanchez didn’t get the support we owe a backup QB when he gets thrust into the game…
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Across the board, yesterday was unacceptable… But we are in good company lol, I’m sure Broncos and Colts having similar thoughts, only difference is they don’t have the big unknown at QB to worry about going forward..
Huff is becoming more and more alarming…
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Week or two ago he had issues on Twitter telling Eagles fans to go to hell..
yesterday remember the bad kick coverage? When asked about it, he didn’t even come close to accepting the blame. He responded “I did Exactky what my coaches instructed me to do on that play”…… Somehow, I highly doubt that Mr. Huff, and maybe you should stop Embarressing the head coach who thought so much about you that he prioritized securing you in the draft…
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If Huff doesn’t make some Insane, Alshon jeffries type of year two leap, he is going to frustrate this city…. Fortunately, to all the hack AMATUER scouts, Jordan Mahews can actually catch after all….look at that lol
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Huff and Earl Wolff, doghouse seems big enough for the both of them…
can see the value of pre-season for working the kinks out of new players. huff sounding like a lot like a less talented djax…
One thing I love about this sport: You’re rarely as good as you think when you dominate, and you’re probably not as bad as you look when you’re dominated. Aaron Rodgers has no equal in the NFL. Trying to cover ground against him using 2 replacements who did not make the original cut is not a realistic challenge. Linebackers are the heart of a 3-4 scheme, and we need help there. The defense that can contain Rodgers, when he is on, I have not seen.