More Changes

Posted: November 4th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 151 Comments »

Things are never boring for the Eagles OL. Last year’s tranquility is a distant memory. This season change is the only constant. Well, that and Jason Peters. He has started every game for the Eagles and all at LT. He has missed some snaps, mostly due to an ejection, but Peters is the one thing you could count on. He would be at LT.

Todd Herremans had played RG and RT this year, but now is headed somewhere else…IR. He suffered a torn bicep injury against the Cardinals. Herremans sprained his ankle in the Texans game and had to come out. With one good arm and one good leg, he was no longer effective.

One of the reasons the Eagles need to put him on IR is that Evan Mathis is set to return from his limited IR stint. The team has to open up a roster spot for him. According to this report from Jeff McLane, Matt Tobin will shift over from LG to RG. Tobin has been filling in for Mathis and will now slide over to replace Herremans.

The OL will now be:

LT Jason Peters
LG Evan Mathis
OC Jason Kelce
RG Matt Tobin
RT Lane Johnson

The backups will be:

C David Molk
C/G Julian Vandervelde
T/G Andrew Gardner
G/T Dennis Kelly

Herremans will have surgery to fix his bicep injury so he can be 100 percent for the offseason. He struggled for part of 2013, but I thought he played pretty well this year. I’m sure the Eagles would like some youth up front, but I would think Herremans comes back next year. He fits the system well and seems like a Chip Kelly type of guy.

Tobin has been okay so far this year. I thought he played pretty well against the Cardinals. I haven’t finished watching him in the Texans game. It looked like Gardner did a good job of run blocking against Houston.

Tobin will be a key evaluation at the end of the year. The Eagles have liked what they’ve seen of him in camps and practices, but they need to know if he is a potential starter in the future or more of a career backup type. There is no question that the Eagles could use another young body up front. The question is how much of a priority this is. If Tobin plays fairly well and Mathis looks like his usual self, the Eagles can afford to be selective. If Tobin is inconsistent and Mathis struggles at all, the Eagles might have to focus on OL help.

Gardner could be thought of as a good backup OG for next year. Allen Barbre will return from IR as the top backup OT. Neither guy is young, though, and that has to be factored in.

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The Eagles signed S Chris Prosinski to fill DeMeco Ryans roster spot. He is 6-1, 201 and was a 4th round pick of the Jags back in 2011. Prosinski can help on STs or add depth to the defense.

Here is something I wrote on Prosinski when he was drafted.

Later in the 4th round Jacksonville took Wyoming Safety Chris Prosinski. This is another Gene Smith pick. The Jags desperately needed Safety help. They passed on some big name guys to take the player that they were high on. Prosinski has a solid resume, but I do wonder if he’s the guy you want coming in to challenge for a starting spot. He has 5 career INTs and they came against Colorado State, Air Force, SDSU, and North Dakota State. That’s hardly murderer’s row in terms of passing attacks. Prosinski is a good run defender. He is a downhill player that likes to sit back in the Cover 2 and then attack his targets. He is generally a wrap-up tackler. Tackling has been an issues for Jags Safeties in recent years so I can see where they were attracted to Prosinski for that reason. Prosinski had a very good workout at his Pro Day and showed big time athleticism. I can’t say that he looked like a great athlete on game tape, but he’s definitely athletic enough for the NFL. Prosinski is another guy I’m real curious about. Is he good enough to start in the NFL? I do think he can be a very good STs player.

Nate Allen is dealing with a hamstring injury. Earl Wolff has dealt with nagging injuries all year. Chris Maragos, despite what Chip Kelly says at his PCs, is a STer and not someone you want playing a lot on defense. Prosinski does at least have some starting experience (8 games). The Eagles recently worked him out. Either they like Prosinski or felt he was simply the best available S.

Safety is a weak position around the NFL. Finding and developing good players is a major challenge.

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So what about Ed Reynolds? The Eagles obviously feel he isn’t ready to contribute. Don’t get too down on him. Safety is a position where players can be ruined if they aren’t ready to play. Reynolds missed time in the spring because of Stanford’s delayed graduation schedule. If the Eagles aren’t completely comfortable with him, let the kid develop on the practice squad so he can be ready for next year.

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Miami nabbed S Jordan Kovacs off the Eagles practice squad. The Eagles signed RB Kenjon Barner to take his spot. They’ve looked at Barner a couple of times this year.


151 Comments on “More Changes”

  1. 1 Matt Hoover said at 8:08 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I still think Mathis ends up at RG. Why disturb the progress Tobin has made

  2. 2 Tiago Maia said at 8:22 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    If you are talking one or two games, I see where you’re coming from. But I don’t like it long term.

  3. 3 iceberg584 said at 8:30 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I don’t think you displace an All-Pro player that flippantly. Plus, there is definitely an advantage to getting Peters and Mathis back next to each other. The hole between them was the most productive as far as rushing in the entire league last year.

  4. 4 Sb2bowl said at 10:19 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Agreed- plus, Lane and Tobin are young and (hopefully) could develop some nice chemistry for the remainder of the year. Old heads on the left, young guns on the right- Kelce in the middle of it all.

  5. 5 For Serial said at 8:40 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Because you want your two best blockers for the QB’s blindside, which would be Peters and Mathis.

  6. 6 A_T_G said at 11:19 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Moving Tobin now is probably his best shot at earning a starting job for next year.

  7. 7 Tiago Maia said at 8:19 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    A couple questions for you Tommy:
    1)what’s your opinion on Kenjon Barner? at this point I don’t have a clear feel for him, and his college tape is not as great as his numbers would show.
    2) I have a very hard time getting excited for a former Gene Smith pick. Do you think he plays a lot on D this year?

  8. 8 GEAGLE said at 8:49 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Do you think the new safety plays a lot on D this year? I sure as hell hope NOT! For him to play it means two of our three Safeties got hurt(wolff,nate,malcolm)…. Which would be a disaster

    Barner is just a body, nothing more.. He is a body we can add this time of year, Familiar enough with chips offense, that he can step in if there is an emergency, he also plays a bunch of different ST roles, not just return man… Just an emergency body in case one of our backs get hurt

  9. 9 anon said at 8:51 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    New safety is trash – he got booed out of Jacksonville.

  10. 10 GEAGLE said at 8:55 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    You don’t see me,doing back flips because of his arrival lol..

  11. 11 CrackSammich said at 10:15 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Have to keep in mind what is expected of him. If he’s thrust into a starting role, it’s not going to end well. Think Coleman and Casey Matthews. As a backup, ST, and scout team guy, he’ll do fine.

  12. 12 GEAGLE said at 8:30 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Kind of surprised that they are moving Tobin. He has been next to Jason Peters for weeks now, probably building more chemistry with each game that we are going to move him to the other side next to youñg Lane?
    Kind of like having Veteran mathis next to young Lane, and veteran JP next to young Tobin…….
    But one thing I know, is Stoutland is brilliant and knows what he is doing, he thinks this is best, then that man has earned the benefit of the doubt with how well he has coached our OLs since arriving in Philly

  13. 13 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:40 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I like having Peters and Mathis on the left. 2 bulldozers in parallel. Watch how McCoy’s numbers really jump in the coming weeks.

  14. 14 GEAGLE said at 8:46 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    This is true.. Kelce, mathis, and JP lined up next to each other is the most dominant left side in the NFL…I’m down with dominance as long as the right side isn’t going to be a liability..
    I’m pleased with how Lane looks in year two, and I guess coaches thnk him n tobin will be fine..

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 8:34 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Watching the game live, I was disgusted with Wolff…watchng on Tape, he did a better job for the most part then I thought he did…I wouldn’t mind Nate missing another two weeks..Wolff needs a few games worth of continuity to really get an idea where he is at in his development… Wolff being forced to play for a stretch of games now, can be a blessing in disguise.
    Think Wolff has grown all he will grow from practice…kid NEEDS Gametime, to sink or swim. Not sure what Nate status is

  16. 16 anon said at 8:50 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Any other position than safety i’d say that. Just too easy to lose games with blown plays.. That said we don’t really have a choice so hopefully he’s a “gamer”. But when both coach and Jenkins are calling you out that’s not great.

  17. 17 GEAGLE said at 8:51 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    When did malcolm call him out?

  18. 18 Avery Greene said at 9:00 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    What did Jenkins say?

  19. 19 anon said at 2:54 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    last week i believe he just echoed kelly’s comments about making mistakes in practice. not too negative on it’s face but reading between the lines and seeing who is competition is it’s not great.

  20. 20 Avery Greene said at 9:00 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I feel he’s a bit too overconfident. He doesn’t seem humble at all, even when the coach thinks you have stuff to work on. I think his response after he heard Chip say that shouldn’t have been, “I’ve been great in practice..” is not someone who understands they have a ways to go.

  21. 21 GEAGLE said at 9:54 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I,dunno, this is one of the situations I struggle with.. Earl is a good, respectful kid, so I was surprised to hear you say he doesn’t come off as humble. I do know that there was a pretty big discrepancy between what chip said and what Wolff said
    Kid comes from a good family, mom is a military woman, I feel like if he was acting a fool is what’s leading to his overachieving, his family would have stepped in…but you could be right. I’m just speculating..
    What I do know is we are wasting all the athleticism we could ever hope for in a safety and its a damn shame, I also know that wolff and chip clearly aren’t on the same page, and it be hooves Wolff to do something to change that…

    I’m torn, on one hand I hope,Nate misses a few more weeks, because game continuity is a chance for the kid to step up and play his way out of the dog house, I would expect him to be a little better with each start…the problem with that is we face Aaron Rogers in two weeks, and THATS not a QB you wanna grow your young safety against….. DONT think it matters if Nate or Wolff plays this week, we win regardless… that GB is the following game, but Nate lets WR behind him, and I’m not that thrilled about trotting him out there against Rodgers..

    and the biggest kick in the nuts, is Chung is balling for the patriots,.

    Need to add another young safety, move Jalen Watkins at safety, get Ed Reynolds up to speed, and wolff in his 3rd offseason at next years training camp, and have a every man for himself royal rumble for the safety spot next to Malcolm…

    If we had another quality safety, our defens would be awesome.. Kind of regret us not signing old man Bathea to start next to jenkins..I’m shocked with how much Bathea still has left in the tank. We should have never brought Nate back, signed Bathea and Jenkins, have Bathea start,the next two years until we draft and groom a young safety to play with Jenkins

  22. 22 Avery Greene said at 10:04 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    That may be, and he also may just be frustrated not getting much pt. I would be I guess, so it makes sense that he’s just venting.

    I’m not sure what I’d want in the draft next year, though I think if we could get a shutdown S/CB – this defense takes another step up.

  23. 23 GEAGLE said at 8:38 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    People,say we were interested in Fuller, I heard that was bogus and the real Eagles Cb target was Roby, but off the field stuff turned them off…

    I don’t believe in starting rookie DBs especially on a contending team… like us to sign another young CB like pAnthers Cason

  24. 24 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:42 PM on November 4th, 2014:


    Apparently Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder use the same PR guys.

  25. 25 P_P_K said at 4:27 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    The truth always finds a way to come out.

  26. 26 GermanEagle said at 9:16 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Todd is now my new Eagles hero.

  27. 27 jpate said at 9:24 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    What is this obsession with barner he showed absolutely nothing except maybe a oregon transcript? Get a ILB guys

  28. 28 Avery Greene said at 10:25 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    LB issues are league wide. Not much out there.

  29. 29 Insomniac said at 12:55 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    We had 2 practice squad spots open. Filled one with Barner..well I think that was what happened. Maybe Chip owes Barner money from a bet or something.

  30. 30 P_P_K said at 9:33 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I’m soory to hear that Maragos isn’t impressing the coaches at safety. He’s a beast on special teams.

  31. 31 GermanEagle said at 9:38 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I think he’s got a little Colt in him.

  32. 32 Dominik said at 8:15 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    It’s funny the Seattle special teams sucks this year, while ours sucked last year (other than Donnie Jones to Boykin) and is #1 this year.

    Not saying Maragos is the reason for that, there are always 10 other players on the field. But Maragos sure has success with his ST units. 🙂

  33. 33 Anders said at 8:25 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Both Braman and Maragos has helped and so has UDFA TE Trey Burton.

  34. 34 GEAGLE said at 8:41 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I’m sure the fact that we use starters like jenkins and Cary doesn’t hurt eitner,,,, Sproles and Parkey have a major hand in our ST improvement.
    James casey, brandon Graham play like ST beasts!

    We have a plethora of quality gunners…
    Basically we have made it so that its a privelege to play on ST each week, guys are taking pride in it

  35. 35 Dominik said at 9:54 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    And Sproles…

    And Parkey. Parkey! I would love to hear some Alex Henery fans (he’s not THAT bad, you won’t find a replacement who’s better than Henery now………..) tell me more about his skills.

    I’m not saying Parkey will be our long term answer, but he sure looks like a good kicker right now. He had one bad miss, but other than that he made the ones you have to as an NFL kicker + a few from 50 yards+, something Henery could never do his entire career. And great kickoffs, to add to that.

  36. 36 RobNE said at 12:11 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    the Denver guy we wanted I think is struggling now

  37. 37 Dominik said at 6:51 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    He is. Funny thing is, if we wouldn’t have found Parkey, Prater would have been available, too.

  38. 38 the guy said at 9:38 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Hope Herremans takes advantage of his time off to go on the road and solve crimes.

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 11:31 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I can picture a dejected Jerry Jones reading a tweet from Todd about #cowboysuk and lamenting, “I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling kids!”

  40. 40 the guy said at 11:36 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    I pity the fool that came up with their social media strategy.

  41. 41 CrackSammich said at 10:36 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Chipwagon points out the unsung hero of the Eagles run game, Brent Celek, who completely stonewalled JJ Watt three times in a row on that 4-run TD drive. Johnson stood him up on the 4th. Get in the way, sure, but a TE shouldn’t be able to take Watt completely out of a play so consistently.

    Gifs of the same are available on Fran Duffy’s article.

  42. 42 jpate said at 11:06 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Magic if tempo

  43. 43 GEAGLE said at 9:46 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Celeks ELITE blocking is nothing new, it’s a weekly occurance. fans and media dont gve him much credit for it, but he is one of the best blocking TE I have ever seen, especially for a guy that is also a capable pass catcher…James Casey is no slouch either,,,

    But we need the OL healthy so, Celek doesn’t have to blocks much,so we can unleash Ertz more

  44. 44 BobSmith77 said at 10:55 PM on November 4th, 2014:

    Stat of the night:

    Weeden has a 25 QBR rating the last 3 years which is far and away the worst in the NFL (minimum 20 games started)

    If Romo can’t come back, the Boys are sunk and still have a great chance to finish at their favorite 8-8 mark.

  45. 45 GermanEagle said at 6:30 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I’m pretty sure Dr Jerry Jones prescribes Romo to play in London.

  46. 46 Dominik said at 8:18 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    They will win against the Jags, let’s not kid ourselves. If they can’t get that win done, we don’t even have to worry about them anymore.

    After that comes the bye, then Giants. Let’s hope the Giants are not the mess they are right now when that matchup comes. After that, there’s the first showdown.

  47. 47 Anders said at 8:25 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Jags actually have a good defense and the offense hasnt been all that bad last couple of weeks.

    There is a great chance the Jags win over the Cowboys

  48. 48 Dominik said at 9:47 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    From your lips to God’s ears. I believe it when I see it.

    They have Clemons and Bryant, a real beast against the run, at their D-Line, but I don’t think they can stop the Dallas O-Line + Murray. Even if Weeden would be the QB.

    We’ll see. Would be HUGE if the Jags could somehow get this win. I think things would fall apart in Dallas if that happens. There were some tensions at the sideline against the Cards. Bryant is not a happy camper at the moment, you have to think.

  49. 49 Pennguino said at 12:37 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Liking the Safety signing. Hopefully a change of scenery will help him. 6’1″ 4.4 speed. Likes to hit and is a good tackler.

    Should be a good camp body next year. Jax was/is one of the worse teams in the league. You know it had to be as bad there as it was here back in 2012. A new regime came in last year and Gus wanted his own guys. I assume Chris was glad to be out of that mess. I am going to be optimistic for him since we need help at the safety spot. Who knows, he might not even make it after Nate is healthy.

  50. 50 mksp said at 12:50 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Offensive line will be fine. Moving Tobin to RG was obvious move, that’s his spot to lose next year unless Eagles use a high pick on a G.

    Carolina is not good, Shady may run for 200 on Monday night.

  51. 51 GermanEagle said at 6:29 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Don’t write off the Dawgfather yet!

  52. 52 EagleNebula said at 1:32 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    From Adam Caplan in case you haven’t seen:

    Herremans completely tore his left biceps against the Cardinals and had 2 weeks to get reattached.— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) November 5, 2014

    In showing his toughness and commitment to the team, #Eagles RG Todd Herremans delayed surgery 1 week until LG Evan Mathis returned.— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) November 5, 2014

    That's the real story. His teammates, coaches, and the front office is well aware of his legendary toughness.— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) November 5, 2014

    I don’t know if that is courageous, heroic, or just crazy. But I do know that he should never have to buy another drink in Philadelphia.

  53. 53 anon said at 2:51 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    says more about what he thinks about his backup

  54. 54 EagleNebula said at 3:14 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Wow, that has to be the most cynical take possible.

  55. 55 GermanEagle said at 6:28 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Yeah I know. Anon has been quite cynical lately. 😉

  56. 56 Mitchell said at 8:56 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    He can be a real Captain Salt sometimes but we’ll keep him.

  57. 57 GermanEagle said at 6:28 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    See my post below.

  58. 58 eagleyankfan said at 7:52 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    whenever you’re down on the Eagles or CK — go take a peak at what a mess TB turned out to be. Probably the worst coaching signing in the last few years. Egads.

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 8:25 AM on November 5th, 2014: is going to break another completely bullshit story. They shouldn’t be allowed to post this news without citing their source after the last bullshit story they wrote and thee,drama it caused… Magically, no one else has picked this up, but the great elliot SHar park somehow has the best sources in the world…what a fraud.. Might as well stay off the internet, because the bullshit discussion this will fabricate, is too much bullshit for me to deal with..

    Fuckin hacks. They shouldn’t be allowed to write about the Eagles. Pull their fucking credentials immediately. This is the last story I want to read in November gearing up for a playoff run…..

  60. 60 Anders said at 8:27 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    It was Eckle not ESP who wrote the new story.

    Also no journalist or blogger, will ever ever give up his source. The moment you do that, you will never ever ever get another tip.

    Also, is it really that hard to believe that Roseman wasnt ready to give Foles big money after the year he has had? or that they might draft another QB pretty high?

  61. 61 GEAGLE said at 8:29 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    They don’t have a source, not a real one..get real. Whether what they said I true or not, Howie would never divulge that info to anyone…

    Btw, I think Howie will scout young QBs every single friggin year no matter how great we are at QB…such garbage

    If I know Howie was scouting Hundley, then it shouldnt be hard for someone else to find out, attach a bullshit source to it, and turn it into a story

  62. 62 GEAGLE said at 8:31 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Rule #1 if elliot SHar parks and are the first reporting a big eagle story, it’s bullshit!
    If it were legit, Adam Caplan would have gotten wind of it first

  63. 63 Anders said at 8:42 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    You know you act like that little kid who refuses to believe that Santa Claus is not real right?

  64. 64 GEAGLE said at 8:42 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Take your personal attack, and suck my dick faggot!!

  65. 65 HipDaDip said at 8:57 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I’m assuming you are joking, but even so, come on…

  66. 66 Mitchell said at 9:00 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    You dnt know, The GEAGLE.

  67. 67 mksp said at 10:19 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    He’s not….sadly.

  68. 68 CrackSammich said at 9:00 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I’m constantly amazed by your ability to make me question whether you’re being ironic or not.

  69. 69 eagleyankfan said at 9:27 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    In this day and age, I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to use such language. The word “attack” could have several meanings and might even have ties to the name Redskins.

  70. 70 CrackSammich said at 9:08 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    So since you enjoy being cryptic, here’s the article you’re referencing. If you’re trying to not make me look at the article, you’d be better served by telling me what’s in it so I don’t have to click.

    Either way, this article doesn’t say much. Staff is on the fence about a guy that is having an on the fence kind of year? Who would have thought. Way to blow it out of proportion.

  71. 71 Anders said at 9:58 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    GEAGLE is blowing it up because it is saying bad things about his best buddy in Nick Foles

  72. 72 mksp said at 10:18 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Yeah there’s nothing unexpected in that article.

    No way Nick was gonna get a big contract the way he’s been playing.

    Nick is having a bad year, and possibly holding this team back from being elite.

    Nick has shown flashes of being “the guy,” but overall, it seems unlikely at this point.

    If Sanchez steps in and does as good of a job or better, wouldn’t surprise me at to see him get a mid-tier multi year deal, move Nick to a team like Houston or Arizona (for the post Palmer era), or maybe even Tampa / NYJ if they’d rather not go young next year, and then draft a developmental guy like Hundley assuming we don’t mortgage the draft for Mariota.

    I don’t think people realize how quickly this team’s window can close – we’re in it right now, this isn’t an “up and coming young team”, there are a ton of veterans playing critical roles. We don’t have the luxury of waiting for Nick to figure it out.

  73. 73 BC1968 said at 12:26 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Agreed, that article is tame and doesn’t reveal anything that most watching this team would’ve thought anyway. Let’s say Foles doesn’t get hurt and the Eagles were forced to make a choice by the eighth week to sign Foles long term or lose the ability to deal with him and risk losing him to free agency.It seems reasonable to believe there would not have been any long term big deal done. You can always slap a franchise tag on him if he goes lights out in the second half. That’s just assuming my pretend scenario was real..I would say it’s highly unlikely there would’ve been some kind of crazy Vick deal from a few years ago. The only thing I would imagine is them going on the cheap like they tried with Macln and see if he gambled, figuring he could be a back-up if things didn’t work out.

    Eskin, the asshole he is, is known big time for anonymous sources and has been right a lot more than wrong. You lose a lot if you give them away, you know, money, listeners, readers. It’s about consistency with that person, reporter, etc. Are they more right than wrong? Don’t know this person so if anyone can shed light on their articles then it’s easier to figure out if they have real sources or just says stuff and doesn’t have the balls to say it on his own. If that person said the same thing without sources it’s still not a big deal and still wouldn’t surprise most people that have been watching this team, He’s a gutless hack if he lies about sources. Even if you don’t agree, it would seem like a reasonable opinion even without sources. That bald guy on Fox knows everything, I never thought to pay attention if he says where gets his info, going to pay more attention now. Tommy gives his opinion, points out other articles but doesn’t pretend he has any sources, from what I’ve read or remember from previous articles. That’s lame and we don’t read Tommy doing that stuff anyways.

  74. 74 eagleyankfan said at 9:25 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    quoting a “league source” is horrible. We all qualify as a league source. He probably should have made up a better source like “someone close to the situation” or “someone in the organization”. I’m sure he does have a source though — probably a drinking buddy who is also a Vick fan who is still PO’d that Foles took over for him…

  75. 75 GEAGLE said at 11:05 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    If anyone at at claims to have this from league sources before adam Caplan heard it, it’s bullshit

  76. 76 anon said at 9:57 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    PFT picked it up, unclear if they did any work to verify. you just never know. people were like wtf with the djax story. same with the harbaugh leaving SF story, people were all over dion about that, but it’s true.

  77. 77 D3FB said at 3:24 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    You mean the same PFF who Evan Mathis trolled the crap out of because they don’t fact check at all?

  78. 78 GEAGLE said at 9:43 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Can’t remember Sanchez as a jets QB, anyone remember how willing he was to take off and use his legs to pick up a 1st down?
    Talk about how Sanchez can help our run game being faster than FOles, but Barkley is much faster than FOles, but he clearly is too afraid to keep the ball and run with it. Sanchez speed is worthless if he is afraid to run withthe ball like Barkley is… Anyone remember how willing Sanchez was at leaving the pocket and using his legs to pick up yards as a Jets QB?
    The other side of the coin, is that we can’t afford to have Sanchez get hurt…if he is willing to take off and run, is he capable of sliding, or is he the next eagkes QB who inexplicably can’t manage a simple slide?
    Saw Russel Wilson keep it on a zone read last week, and the next play instead of keeping it he gave it to Marshawn, who walked in the ENDZONE untouched because the defense was worried about Wilson keeping it…. Can Sanchez bring this to the table?
    When he played for the Jets was Sanchez, A) willing to use his legs to pick up yards? And B) when he does run, is he good at sliding and avoiding getting hit????

  79. 79 jpate said at 9:48 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I don’t remember but I doubt Chip asks him to run it a lot with Barkley as the back up

  80. 80 bsuperfi said at 9:53 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I can’t say I remember in particular, but I’m also wondering about Sanchez’ movement in and around the pocket when protection breaks down. This seemed to be a virtue of Foles last year but a serious weakness this year.

    I am encouraged by Sanchez’s ability to throw accurately when rolling out. I remember him doing this well back to his college days. I do wonder whether he can make these sorts of plays when improvising instead of just when he knows the movement is coming.

  81. 81 OregonDucker said at 12:06 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    As I recall Sanchize has a real talent with bootlegs. He can throw accurately on the move. I also seem to recall that he can miss zone coverage badly, resulting in untimely interceptions. Overall my impression is that he was fatally hurt by a coach who did not give him the tools to succeed. And he was also hurt by his own ego; it takes lots of film study, practice reps, and dedication for a QB to succeed; he focused too much on outside distractions – major personality flaw. Chip can cure his flaws IMHO.

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 3:44 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Does some of his best work rolling out of the pocket, but no, he doesn’t have much experience running the ball. He has less then 400’rushing yards for his entire career… One year he had 6’rushing TDs but that was probably a lot of goal line running..
    His averages in NY were like 6’rushing yards per game, so he isn’t someone who has looked to run in the past, but every year he did have LONGs of 28, 35 yards each Year, so every once n. While, he was ok with taking off and he has athleticm to pick up chunk yards…how that translates to our zone reads, remains to be seen….
    I do know that run game is a QB best friend, and if Sanchez keeps the ball on occasion, it will open things up for the runningbacks just a little…but with Barkley as the next man up, we are no longer flying with a safety we were when we had sanchez in the bull pen

  83. 83 Sean Stott said at 12:42 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Sanchez does have long arms and big hands, hands are almost as big as Foles’, and he’s 4″ shorter.

    He has some athleticism, but he’s not a burner by any means. But you saw him pick up that third/short with his legs. That’s a play I don’t think Foles makes.

  84. 84 anon said at 10:11 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Three questions: anyone heard anything about Marcus Smith getting more time at ILB? His name has been totally absent from that discussion.
    Was listening to CK talking about the new safety and he mentioned that he’d be depth behind Nate and Malcolm — should i read anything into that? Though he also said that he was here so that LBs could take a break on teams.
    Any truth to the Foles story? In my eye it’s incredibly short sighted. even if he plays mediocre he’s here another year and is cheap and it’s hard to find a guy, see Matty B.

  85. 85 bill said at 10:21 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I’m probably grouped in with the Foles fan club, and hold out hope that Barkley can improve, but even I think the Eagles’ QB situation is closer to “undecided” than to “set for the foreseeable future.” Haven’t read the article, because the source isn’t reputable, but I’d be surprised if the FO wasn’t considering drafting a QB in the first half of the draft next year. I’d be mildly surprised if they take one in the 1st or 2nd, but it’s certainly not out of the question. If they do take one in the first two rounds, I predict the team is 3-5 years away from SB contention, though. Too many holes and players aging out of their primes to use that valuable of an asset for a position that takes years to develop, and they’re not going the Seahawks route, where the D wins the game and they only need approximately 200 yds/game from their QB.

  86. 86 BlindChow said at 2:51 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    All the article suggested was they weren’t going to commit to Foles this year based upon his play so far. Sounds reasonable to me. They have him for another year, so with his continued mediocrity week after week, it makes sense to wait before extending him.

  87. 87 GEAGLE said at 11:03 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Watching skip Bayless squirm over the disastrous imploding Cowboys is glorious. The joke of a Cowboys team, shows its true colors, like clockwork, come November, he em or high hell, dallas going into full nose dive!
    How pathetic are you that you are crying about losing Justin Durrant, Rolando McClain, Chris Crawford? LOL chip kelly shuffled in 13 different offensive line combinations in 8 games and we still full steam ahead, ready to roll right over you… Can’t wait to see Demarco murrays second half of the season, doubt it compares to what shady, polk and Sproles are about to unleash on the NFL with Mathis back….we played the first half of the season without Kendricks, and will play the second half without our “Mufasa” Meco Cap Ryan, yet we will make due with Casey Mathews…next soldier up, and we keep rolling, picking up momentum to go into the playoffs, hot…

    How pathetic do you have to be to have a 6-3 team and have so little confidence that you felt the need to fly tony romo and his bad back all the way to London to play the friggin Jaguars? We lose our QB, half our OL, LB, whatever..we kick your ass with the next soldier up…..

    This years dallas implosion might be the best of the them Alll because we will be in position to put the nail in the coffin of their season playing them twice in December. It’s going to be glorious, using dallas to gain momentum for the playoffs at the Cowboys expense..

  88. 88 OregonDucker said at 12:02 PM on November 5th, 2014:


  89. 89 P_P_K said at 12:53 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    If Romo is smart, or has someone in his life who will tell him the truth, he should be done with football. His back is shot. Maybe he can take pain killers and make it through this year, maybe another, but the guy is looking at a lifetime of pain, maybe crippling pain.
    As a human being, I feel sorry for him. As an Eagles fan, it is a glorious time because the Cowboys will have to rebuild with a new qb. It’s back to the NFC basement for them.

  90. 90 b3nz0z said at 11:09 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    hey look something hilarious about dallas:

  91. 91 b3nz0z said at 11:09 AM on November 5th, 2014:


  92. 92 jpate said at 11:15 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    I don’t understand how so many people are jumping off foles. Do people think it’s easy to just find a qb picking in mid to late rounds and bam he’ll be elite. It’s his second season as a starter and he was below average..not horrible but just below average. Go look at Flacco last year or peyton mannings number in his 4th season with 23 interceptions. QBs have bad seasons sprinkled in with good seasons especially with decimated o-line. Doesn’t mean it’s over

  93. 93 Anders said at 11:19 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Difference is Flacco and Manning was 1st picks for a reason. There are more 1st round QBs who start average and become good (and Flacco is average, Foles right now is terrible) than 3rd round picks. Check the careers of Griese or Derek Anderson.

    Also, people are jumping off Foles because he seems to have regressed in his mechanics and footwork. His footwork was never great, but he has some of the ugliest footwork in the NFL right now.

  94. 94 jpate said at 11:33 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Explain to me how hes been terrible? 5-2 record was on pace for over 4,300 yards 59.9 % 26 TDs and 20 Ints. Below average. Those guys you mentioned best seasons didn’t come close to this “terrible” season”

  95. 95 Anders said at 11:39 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Have to adjust for era, passing for 4300 yards now is not really anything and below 60% is bad and so is above 20 ints.

  96. 96 GermanEagle said at 11:44 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Manning threw 26 picks in his 4th season. And I’m not talking about Eli…

  97. 97 jpate said at 12:19 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Projected yards for this season:
    Newton 3189
    Wilson 3338
    Kaepernick 3912

    I know they can all run and this arguement isn’t about passing yards but 4300 or whatever isn’t given.

  98. 98 GermanEagle said at 12:22 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Psssd, don’t mention Anders’ best friend Cam Newton who he would trade his Eagles farm for. 😉

  99. 99 Anders said at 2:56 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I trade a 1st+McCoy for Cam Newton.

    Also have to look at who guys like Newton etc. is throwing to and who their OC/HC is. (Hint: Chip Kelly is a really fucking offensive genius)

  100. 100 anon said at 3:05 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    He had some effusive praise for Newton when talking to media, but he says that about everyone. CK seems to be a firm believer in not giving anyone bulletin board material or falling prey to trap games. It’d be interesting to see if they tried to talk to Cam at the end of the year.

  101. 101 Anders said at 3:45 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I think they will kick it around if he is only transition tagged.

  102. 102 GermanEagle said at 6:49 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    You’d be nuts to trade Shady + a 1st. I’m not saying that Newton is a bum, but I still don’t get your love for him.

    He’s get 50+ starts under his belt and his numbers are not fully justifying his high first round draft status – Yet!

    I’d consider a first plus another player maybe, but not the arguably best RB in football.

  103. 103 Anders said at 1:27 PM on November 6th, 2014:

    He had over 4000 yards as a rookie QB, even in todays NFL, that is impressive for a rookie

  104. 104 GermanEagle said at 2:26 PM on November 6th, 2014:

    Were you not the one saying that 4000 yards in today’s NFL can be taken for granted?

  105. 105 EagleNebula said at 11:33 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Draft pick means nothing after the fact, only performance in the NFL (practice and games). Otherwise Ruan Lief would have had a longer career than Tom Brady and Peters would had never had a career.

  106. 106 mksp said at 11:37 AM on November 5th, 2014:

    Because he’s putting up bottom-5 efficiency numbers in the most QB friendly offense in the league.

    He’s in his 3rd year and he’s regressed.

    Sometimes the facts are what they are. He can be a good kid and solid QB option, but the position is also one the Eagles can clearly upgrade.

  107. 107 P_P_K said at 1:00 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I like Nick’s off-field demeanor so much I hope we are both wrong that he is a middle-of-the road qb. The problem is the process of upgrading. Drafting a qb and bringing him up to NFL speed is a multi-year process, unless you hit some kind of jackpot. That’s why it would be so cool if Sanchez steps in and wows everyone, reminding us all of why he was such a top prospect. If that’s the case, Boom!, Eagles are contenders for the foreseeable future.

  108. 108 bill said at 1:26 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    “in the most QB friendly offense in the league.” I wonder if you have objective proof of such?
    Generally speaking, QB friendly schemes: a) reduce the number of attempts the QB must make; b) rely on short dropbacks and short throws; c) heavily feature run games; and d) have lots of max protect schemes to protect the QB from taking heavy hits.
    I don’t see any of this in this year’s offensive scheme, other than a 2 game span where Kelly finally admitted his oline was getting Foles killed and scaled back on the 4 verticals calls, but he made up for that by becoming so pass heavy that he made Andy Reid blush.
    Most QB friendly offense is such a subjective term that it immediately screams “Needs objective verification/further specification.” But in this case, it’s objectively false – it’s pretty much the opposite of what most coaches do to make a scheme easy for a QB. As most of the coaches who’ve opined the subject have noted, a lot of the pass plays Kelly calls are well known to provide open receivers and big plays; the reason others don’t call them so much is because they require everything, from every lineman holding his block for more than 3 seconds, to the receivers running their routes perfectly and then making over the shoulder catches, to the QB make a high-difficulty downfield throw, to go perfectly. Kelly even admits he’s not doing anything revolutionary here in terms of play calls. These worked very well last year because a) the line was dominant; b) defenses truly feared the run game and it still produced anyway; and c) Foles executed it very well.
    Foles is underperforming, but let’s not make stuff up.

  109. 109 MattE said at 1:41 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I think he is referring to reads pre and post snap and Chip playing a numbers game blah, blah blah. You get 1 play in the headset with 2-3 options built in. I don’t think there really is much of the check with me scenario and Foles wasn’t exactly emulating Peyton at the LOS, Chip’s offense works because usually all three options for a QB are available 1) QB runs with ball, 2) QB throws ball, 3) QB hands ball off, thats it. Plus our running game has not gotten going with Nick ( i like Foles), but with Sanchez also a threat to run, guess what…. the running game just opened up, thus the play action opens up, i.e. Houston.

  110. 110 anon said at 2:41 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Totally agree, guys like Peyton, Luck etc. do a lot more at the LOS. They set protections, the can audible in and out of plays, etc. I think Foles is running a read-based offense (if A then B), which I think should be easier for a developing guy to grasp, especially considering all the reps. If Sanchez looks good in the system then you really know “it’s the system”.. Really just need someone that is slightly mobile and can make accurate passes to open guys, and protect the ball.

  111. 111 BlindChow said at 2:46 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Not sure where the “Mark Sanchez is a threat to run” meme got started. While slightly faster than Foles, he’s still slower than Lane Johnson.

  112. 112 mksp said at 1:59 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I admit it’s subjective, but I’m hardly the first observer, and far from the most qualified, that has asserted the same.

    And beyond the game plan, Nick is surrounded by weapons that make his job easier.

  113. 113 GermanEagle said at 12:20 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Journalists love to write off players too soon. However the media shouldn’t do so with regards to Foles whose career numbers still look pretty decent to me:

    61.6% Comp, 6753 Yards, 46 TDs, 17 Ints, 94.1 Rating

    We all have to remind ourselves that last year’s incredible season was not only historically an aberration. However nobody can guarantee that his average at best performance in 2014 won’t be an aberration either. If you combine last season with this year’s I happen to think that Nick Foles’ true ability lies somewhere in between.

    Despite having said that I still don’t see him as the long term answer. Nor can I say with absolute certainty that he cannot be our franchise QB for years to come.

    All I know is that it’s Sanchez’ turn now and if it turns out to bring the best out of these two I will be a happy camper.

  114. 114 P_P_K said at 12:56 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Foles might have some weird karma. He won the job when Vick was injured and he might now lose his due to injury. The timing of the injury is lousy because, obviously, the unanswered questions about his skill level remain unanswered.

  115. 115 bill said at 1:30 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Maybe the “Eagles’ QB” has that karma, because Vick won it after Kolb got injured. I’ll join in with the sentiment that the best scenario for the Eagles is that Sanchez really was a diamond in the rough and comes in and earns the job going forward. Don’t know how likely that is, but it certainly seems like the best case scenario, as otherwise, it will all just be a big question mark going in to the off-season.

  116. 116 anon said at 2:38 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    The problem with having a quality backup is that your job is really never safe. Team has a long track record of guys losing their jobs to injury. So I would come here if I was a backup that wanted to play but not if I thought I could be the guy.

  117. 117 P_P_K said at 4:52 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I hope the Eagles qb spot doesn’t turn out to be like the piano spot in Spinal Tap.

  118. 118 mtn_green said at 12:57 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Agreed. And to add of Foles is healthy and playing well in practice chip will start him.

    I really think 4 weeks of Sanchez will have the people that jumped off Foles bandwagon, trying to hop back on.

  119. 119 Avery Greene said at 1:03 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I think he got hurt in the Redskins game and has been playing hurt ever since. Sal Pal talked about the bruise on his non-throwing shoulder and that he thought Foles was playing not to get hit on that shoulder.

    If so, then yeah he probably could use some time to heal and come back 100%.

    If not, people will say they saw this in preseason and he was never that good to begin with.

    I guess we’ll see between now and the end of the season.

  120. 120 Sean Stott said at 12:37 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    For anyone interested, Matt Tobin was highly regarded by Football Outsiders this week.

    The Football Outsiders stars for Week 9 are:


    LG Matt Tobin, PHI: No sacks allowed; helped Eagles go 5-for-5 converting short-yardage runs.

  121. 121 mtn_green said at 1:24 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I think chip wants Maclin to stay away from PR duties and if Sproles isn’t ready to go, eagles would bring in Barner. Barner is not much more than a KR. With burton the eagles have 4 that can be RB.
    Polk and Huff have KR locked down, if they stay health.

  122. 122 ACViking said at 1:27 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Re: Unanswered Foles Questions — Or Maybe Not

    Not having the last 8 games (most likely) shrinks the window in which WE get to see how Foles performs.

    But the coaches have been watching him for a year-and-a-half already. And especially closely since May 2014 when he became the undisputed starter.

    These guys — the coaches — have been to the QB rodeo a few times.

    I’m speculating, of course, but I’d wager that Kelly’s formed a fairly firm view on Foles at this point. As have Shurmur and Roseman.

    When the Eagles cut D-Jax, one of the more persistent themes on which most folks agreed was that — after a full year as coach — Kelly had sufficiently satisfied himself about D-Jax and was ready to move on.

    I don’t know why that reasoning shouldn’t apply to Foles.

    All idle guesswork on my part, to be sure.

  123. 123 eagleyankfan said at 1:30 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    So you’re saying the coaches already know their course about the QB position but we don’t know what that is?
    “formed a fairly firm view on Foles” — say that 10 times fast…lol

  124. 124 ACViking said at 1:32 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    EYF wrote:

    “So you’re sayingthe coaches already know their course about the QB position . . . .”

    Not the “course” necessarily — as that depends on the available options.

    Only that the staff and front office folks have formed a fairly firm view on Foles as an NFL QB.

    [more f’s for the alliterative analysis]

  125. 125 ACViking said at 1:49 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Re: The Sanchez Scenario

    P_P_K wrote earlier of an arch-nemesis:

    “If Romo is smart, . . . he should be done with football. His back is shot. . . . As an Eagles fan, it is a glorious time because the Cowboys will have to rebuild with a new qb. It’s back to the NFC basement for them.”

    Not so fast, P_P_K.

    Let’s say Mark Sanchez plays with consistency and productivity — in other words, a quality NFL QB.

    For context, Sanchez would play much more like a Dalton than a Fitzpatrick.

    So Romo retires.

    Jerry Jones will want to compete again in 2015. ‘specially have seen how productive RB Demarco Murray can be with a good QB throwing to WR Dez Bryant.

    Sanchez is on a 1-year deal with the Eagles.

    If he plays well, and Romo calls it quits, well . . . I could see Jerry Jones making a very lucrative offer to Sanchez.


    The Cowboys would offer a pretty good O-line.

    A top-tier RB.

    A top-tier WR (with a couple of solid compliments).

    A top-tier TE (with a solid #2 guy).

    And a chance to be the centerpiece of Jerry’s World (no sane person should see that as a plus, however.)


    Over the next 8 weeks, Sanchez could make himself a not only a lot of money . . .

    But the hottest free-agent commodity since, I don’t know, Gunga Din.

  126. 126 MattE said at 1:53 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Hopefully he joins the tradition of Spanish-esque last named backup QB’s for the Eagle’s who deliver stellar performances… Jeff Garcia lol.

  127. 127 CrackSammich said at 1:55 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    The problem with this theory is that there isn’t enough money to go around. Dez is going to need to get paid. Murray is going to need to get paid. Romo is already getting paid. They can’t pay for all of them, and haven’t been planning for it for years like the Eagles have.

  128. 128 Avery Greene said at 2:00 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Yeah they can’t keep both.

  129. 129 ACViking said at 2:01 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I’m not so sure the money’s all that tight for Dallas.

    Jones made the hard decisions last year to clean up the Cowboys’ cap — cutting Ware, for example.

    If Romo retires, money’s freed up (not sure how much).

    The other guys get front-loaded bonus-based deals.

    It’ll be doable, I think.

    (But I could be way off in my recollection)

  130. 130 Avery Greene said at 2:06 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Just found what you need. Dallas has roughly $4 mill in cap space for next year. I’m not sure if they roll it over or if it’s the projected space come the end of the season. I think if they roll it over they have $7.5 mill to spend next year.

    But they don’t pay attention to stuff like this and it may come back to bite them.

  131. 131 ACViking said at 2:03 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Ultimately, Jones won’t let both Murrary and Bryant leave. I can’t see that.

    But without a quality QB, they’re useless.

  132. 132 ACViking said at 2:07 PM on November 5th, 2014:


    Just looked at the Cowboys’ numbers on “Over The Cap.”

    In cap-year 2015, the Cowboys start off with $8 in dead money.

    If Romo retires, and his prorated bonus becomes dead money, that’s another $9 million alone just for him — making it $17M in dead money.

    You’re very likely right.

    I am very likely wrong.

    My compliments

  133. 133 ACViking said at 2:17 PM on November 5th, 2014:


    A footnote on Dallas’s cap situation . . .

    In 2015, the Cowboys will still be up against the cap — with about $2.5 million in projected space based on a $140M cap.

    [Eagles currently have only $5.2M in cap space for 2015.]

    However, in 2016, the Cowboys and Eagles BOTH project to have about $46M in cap space (the Birds at $47M).

    A capologist — like Sam Lynch — could probably explain how the Cowboys could work cap-friendly deals in 2015 with Murray, Bryant, and a new QB to take advantage of the space that becomes available in 2016 and beyond.

    Time will tell, obviously.

  134. 134 mtn_green said at 2:19 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Cap will go up and I’m sure they can work in some of those terrible contracts that push the bad cap situation further down the road.

    Jerry always gets his man.

  135. 135 Avery Greene said at 2:00 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I think Jones is crazy enough to give up a 1st and another pick to get Manziel.

  136. 136 ACViking said at 2:13 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    It would certainly be a cheap way to get a QB.

    But not sure Cleveland’s ready to ride Brian Hoyer to the next few years.

    If Eagles’ management have doubts about Foles, then Browns’ management must have even bigger doubts about Hoyer.

  137. 137 Avery Greene said at 2:20 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    True, but the Browns might be able to fleece Jones if he really wants Manziel. If you get their #1 pick for a couple years, it could really work out well. Picking in the early teens (or top 10) can do wonders for your team.

    I think the Rams will really start to gel into a much better team when they finally get a QB, compliments of the Redskins.

  138. 138 b3nz0z said at 2:43 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    beat me to it!

  139. 139 MaggieMagpie said at 6:35 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Why? He could have drafted Manziel this year.

  140. 140 Avery Greene said at 9:43 AM on November 6th, 2014:

    This was a comment meant to be sarcastic towards Jones. It was reported this is who he really wanted, and now that Romo is hurt I wouldn’t be surprised to see him give up the farm to get him.

  141. 141 mtn_green said at 2:23 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Won’t only be cowboys interested.
    Didn’t Jeff Garcia have a similar situation?

  142. 142 Avery Greene said at 2:24 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    There’s quite a few teams looking for a QB.

  143. 143 botto said at 2:26 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    yeah but he’d stay with the eagles if that were the case. so it doesn’t matter

  144. 144 ACViking said at 3:15 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    If Sanchez puts up Foles v.2013 numbers, the Eagles will have a huge decision to make.

    If history’s taught us anything (besides you can kill anyone), it’s that the NFL has 10 or so quality QBs. Maybe.

    And so a free agent QB who puts up great numbers will get paid. And paid a lot of money.

    So the Birds can either:

    1. franchise Sanchez — which sounds very unEagles-like;

    2. offer Sanchez a very lucrative multi-year deal based on just 8 games’ worth of production — which sounds very unEagles-like; or

    3. let Sanchez walk.

    Of course, if Sanchez produces about the way Foles did, or a little better, this whole comment string becomes a counter-factual exercise.

  145. 145 RobNE said at 4:02 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    I vote for great numbers. It’s a problem, but a good one to have.

  146. 146 D3FB said at 3:18 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    The worst part about Romo retiring is it would let Jerry Jones off the hook for that terrible contract.

  147. 147 ACViking said at 4:37 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    $9.5+ million in dead money if Romo retires after this season.

    If not . . . $39M in additional salary over the next couple seasons.

    As an NFL player, you have to love an owner who’ll over-pay.

    As a fan, not so much over the long term.

    Jones — among the best in a league of elite business people — is just a lousy GM at so many levels.

  148. 148 P_P_K said at 9:39 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Not so fast, ACV.
    If something like our scenario plays out, put yourself in Sanchez cleats. You’ve just had a good, Dalton-like year Got to be a starting NFL qb again, your team won their Division and in the playoffs they… (for a later discussion). The team wants you to be their qb#1 and they are willing to pay good money. Maybe not Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder crazy batshit $, but enough that you feel fairly compensated.
    It’s got to be worth giving up a few nickels to play under a genius coach, with a dynamic offense, a culture of integrity, class teammates, a bright future, and an owner who doesn’t seem to believe he is the center of the known universe. On the other side of the scale is the looney bin of Jerry’s world with Dez whining in your ear.
    Mark went through hell with the Jets because he was with a crappy organization, with terrible coaching, in a City where the sports media eats its young. He ain’t gonna’ want to go back to the circus. I’m betting he’s got to appreciate life is good in Chip’s world.
    Now the only thing left is for him to go out and play some good football.

  149. 149 mtn_green said at 2:15 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Anonymous source close to the situation tells this iggles blitz commenter that nj . com has bad reporting.

  150. 150 b3nz0z said at 2:42 PM on November 5th, 2014:


  151. 151 mtn_green said at 4:42 PM on November 5th, 2014:

    Technically New Jersey.