Playoff Talk

167 Comments on “Playoff Talk”

1. 
   1 Angry Amishman said at 3:52 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   “The Eagles aren’t going to have a high pick no matter what. The team is 9-5. They would have the #23 pick if the season ended today.”

   Not the 20th?

2. 
   2 TommyLawlor said at 4:05 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   I fixed that. I was using a flawed draft order.

3. 
   3 HawaiianEagle said at 4:07 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   I’m all in on a Mariota trade-up as long as he can play QB and CB…

4. 
   4 Weapon Y said at 3:53 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   “There is no Tank for Mariota possibility.” I’m not so sure about that. Sure, they can’t get him wherever their pick will be, but I think there is a chance Chip goes all in for Mariota. He did draft or intend to draft other Oregon players much higher than expected. Huff in Round 3. He wanted Hart in Round 3 as well. My point is there is a precedent of Chip rating his old Oregon players much higher than other coaches. I wonder if he has Mariota rated so high that he’ll do whatever it takes to get him. A lower pick might mean it is slightly cheaper to trade up. That might be all the difference it takes.

   With that said, I personally am never in favor of tanking. But there is some upside if trading up for Mariota is a real possibility.

5. 
   5 GermanEagle said at 4:09 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   But there is some upside if trading up for Mariota is a real possibility.
   This is where I stopped reading. :p-

6. 
   6 Weapon Y said at 7:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   Because it was the last thing I wrote?

7. 
   7 GermanEagle said at 8:32 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   Yes. Sort of.

8. 
   8 TommyLawlor said at 4:10 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   There is no way the Eagles will be able to trade up from #18 or 20 to get the top pick. Too many teams in between would want him. Top team wouldn’t have to move that far down in a trade and would still get a good price for him.

9. 
   9 Henly125 said at 4:34 PM on December 16th, 2014:

   True, but not many of those teams that need a QB have a Shady McCoy to use as a trading piece.. After what Chip did to DeSean, without getting anything in return, it’s hard to rule anything out. Who’s to say this guy wouldn’t do it for the most important position in sports? Weapon Y made the point that Chip nearly reached for Taylor Hart in the 3rd round, which is true. Josh Huff was considered a reach as well. I would prefer we use the picks to fill holes on the team anyway, but I don’t know what Chip thinks and I’m not into hypotheticals myself, but it can’t be ruled out.

10. 
    10 D3FB said at 4:56 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Shady is averaging 4.1 ypc this season. He’s due to be paid $9.75mil in base salary next year. He’s coming off two extremely heavy workload seasons. Shady isn’t worth much as a trade piece. He probably nets you a 4th, maybe a 3rd. That isn’t in anyway going to get your close to Mariotta or be any kind of influence in jumping over teams with better draft spots.

11. 
    11 Henly125 said at 5:09 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Only $1 million of that $9.75mil is guaranteed. Im having a hard time agreeing with you on the workload seasons, yes he’s had a lot of touches, but he’s only 26 years old…. Nowhere near passed his prime.. Sooo, I’d say any ELITE running back at that age is worth the $9.75 million base salary. No way is Shady worth a 3rd or a 4th round pick, that’s blasphemy.

12. 
    12 D3FB said at 5:16 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Base salary means if he is on a team, he will be paid that. Running backs are being devalued in the modern NFL. Teams aren’t going to give up top 75 picks for a back with a huge price tag and 6 years in the league. He will have gone over 300 carries the last two years alone. He has the second most carries in the league this year. I’m sorry, you’re wrong. The league will not value him at the price you think they will. Running backs are being drafted later and later each year, they are being paid significantly less in free agency. The league does not put a premium on the running back position anymore.

13. 
    13 Henly125 said at 5:39 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    You’re right, the position is devalued in recent years, but this is LeSean McCoy we’re talking about here, an established All-Pro running Back at 26 years of age. Put the base salary and positional value aside for a second, you mean to tell me there isn’t a team that would give up higher than a 3rd or 4th round pick for this guy? You’re absolutely wrong, bro.. he is on pace for a another heavy workload season, but he’s very much the same player we saw last year. His running style plays into this as well, he’s not a physically daunting runner. You’re opinion is based on running backs throughout the league not named LeSean mcCoy. Look around at the top RB salaries and they’re all getting paid in the $9mil – $11 range.

14. 
    14 D3FB said at 5:49 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    No they aren’t

    http://overthecap.com/position/running-back

15. 
    15 Henly125 said at 5:56 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Interesting link.. But Jamaal Charles is making $8.3mil this season due to that contract extension. I believe it’ll be higher next season too, he’s the second highest paid RB now.

16. 
    16 D3FB said at 5:54 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Melvin Gordon can be taken at the back end of round 1 on a contract that will pay him less in 4 years than Shady makes next year. Why would a team trade that?

    Ameer Abdullah is going to be taken early in round two for a contract that over its life will be less than half what Shady makes next year.

    Duke Johnson is going to go late 2nd or 3rd. He will make peanuts.

    Also you’re right about Shady’s running style. It doesn’t fit with alot of teams. So now you can decrease demand. Add in the high salary, decrease demand. Alot of teams are wary about high workloads, decrease demand. Demarco Murray and Beastmode and probably Adrian will all be free agents. You have to give up no picks for them. They will probably sign for less money than 10 million next season.

    You’re probably looking at maybe 2 or 3 teams that would be interested. He’s not this shining golden ticket you perceive him to be.

17. 
    17 Henly125 said at 6:13 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    He may not be a golden ticket,, but he does add more value when trying to trade up in the draft. That was the whole point of my statement. Shady adds value. Period. Never said we’d only have to trade him alone to move up and draft a QB. What I mean is shady is a trading piece that could sweeten the pot for a potential draft trade. It is highly unlikely that we move up, but throwing Shady in there certainly raises chances. You’re points are completely valid, however there should be no doubt that Shady has the value to sweeten up a deal to pull off a trade.

18. 
    18 D3FB said at 6:35 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    And my point is that he doesn’t sweeten the pot nearly enough. What I’m saying is he’s the equivalent of throwing in an extra third or fourth round pick. Shady simply doesn’t move the needle on any kind of perspective trade up to be meaningful. If a team drafting 4th or 5th offers an RG3 deal there’s not enough draft picks or players in the world.

19. 
    19 philliesfan123 said at 9:23 PM on December 17th, 2014:

    Remember Jimmy Johnson ( Dallas coach ) traded Hershel Walker for draft picks to rebuild the Cowboys. I’m not going to compare the potential trade value possibilities, but trading shady would give the Eagles much needed draft picks to rebuild their secondary, etc.

20. 
    20 philliesfan123 said at 9:20 PM on December 17th, 2014:

    Lynch is under contract next year, and Demarco Murray is going NO WHERE ! Peterson is under contract until 2017, and Zimmerman wants him back.

21. 
    21 philliesfan123 said at 9:14 PM on December 17th, 2014:

    Don’t discount that a lot have teams need to put butts in their seats and want to create a buzz for their fans to be excited about. Shady going to another team, would pump up their fans. It’s football ….. but in the end it’s entertainment.

22. 
    22 D3FB said at 12:42 AM on December 18th, 2014:

    Teams don’t get shit in revenue from gate reciepts. Even the worst teams are consistently at 85%+ capacity.

    A bad team would be ill suited trading a high pick for a player that will be over the hill once they reach relevancy again.

    Shady is not worth a premium pick.

23. 
    23 philliesfan123 said at 9:11 PM on December 17th, 2014:

    Agree …. 2nd rounder. Only 26 yrs. old, 2013 rushing title, off year and still is 4th in NFL.

24. 
    24 Weapon Y said at 7:56 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    It is unlikely and I would guess it won’t happen. But I would not rule it out. This wouldn’t be the first time Chip did something unexpected at the QB position (bring back Vick, not trade Foles, draft Barkley, sign Sanchez). It would just dwarf all of those moves in shock value.

25. 
    25 DarthBanner said at 3:54 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Eh. They don’t deserve to make the playoffs. Not after being so unprepared to play Dallas and certainly not by leading the league in turnovers.

26. 
    26 TXEaglesFan said at 4:00 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Wait, the eagles got Chip Kelly and drafted Lane Johnson for their 2012 troubles.

27. 
    27 TommyLawlor said at 4:06 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    You’re right.

28. 
    28 TommyLawlor said at 4:08 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Fixed. Thanks for pointing out the mistake.

29. 
    29 GermanEagle said at 4:08 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    GE’s quick hits:
    a) Yes, please get into the playoffs. However the Eagles better look at their own games, rather than looking at Dallas’ remaining schedule. If the Eagles can take care of their own business, then, and only then, we shall be rooting for Dallas to suck again.
    b) Man, I am not generally a jealous person, but man, look at the bloody Patrtiots, who just won their division for the 11th (!!!) time in the last 12 years. #BradyEnvy
    c) Dallas sucks. Somehow. Always. Forever. And. Ever. Ever.

30. 
    30 Nicodemus_09 said at 6:19 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    RE the Brady/Patriots envy; I hate that team but the stat I heard the other day that completely blew my mind was, Brady hasn’t lost to a division opponent at home since Oh feaking SIX. Generally week teams in that division granted but 8 years is totally unbelievable. What I wouldn’t give to be able to make a boast like that. : /

31. 
    31 RobNE said at 6:25 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Nov 13. 2008 would like a word with you

32. 
    32 Nicodemus_09 said at 6:34 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Well, that’s what I get for not fact checking a tweet. But if that’s the one bloody asterisk, I have to admit freely that I’m still highly envious.

33. 
    33 RobNE said at 6:38 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Me too

34. 
    34 Nicodemus_09 said at 6:43 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Oh MAN Rob, you made me feel dumb as a post & upon further review, 11/13/08 was Matt friggin’ Cassel.

35. 
    35 James Durant said at 1:20 PM on December 17th, 2014:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/playoffs.htm

    Brady and pats lost at home to NYJ led by Mark Sanchez in 2010 🙂 (they also had 11-5 record)

36. 
    36 Jarock said at 9:38 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    That was Matt Cassell, not Brady.

    D’oh, sorry, didn’t read below. Sorry bout that.

37. 
    37 Sporran said at 4:10 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Win the last two games. If they become the first ever 11-5 team to miss the playoffs, I’m fine with that. I’d chalk it up as a fluky year in which the Eagles got a bit unlucky, and take the higher-than-expected draft pick as compensation.

38. 
    38 TommyLawlor said at 4:12 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    In 2008, NE went 11-5 and didn’t make the playoffs. I think it has happened other times as well.

39. 
    39 Sporran said at 4:13 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Hmm. I missed that. Still, 11-win teams are usually good enough to make the playoffs, barring unusual circumstances.

40. 
    40 BC1968 said at 5:44 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    That was the year that Brady got hurt and then the Pats quarterback, I forgot his name, got the team 11 wins that got him a shitload of money from KC. Then he sucked

41. 
    41 RobNE said at 6:03 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Matt cAssell

42. 
    42 Ark87 said at 4:16 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Wait the Patriots missed a playoff? That’s a shock for anyone under 30 haha.

43. 
    43 botto said at 4:18 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    how come no one ever gives the pats crap for playing in such a weak division for so many years. the eagles win the division last year and its all about how bad everyone was in the east…

44. 
    44 bwin29 said at 11:34 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    ’85 Broncos and ’08 Pats. That’s it. Eagles would be the first NFC team ever to do it. That being said, I kind of feel like they’ll drop one of these last two games anyway.

45. 
    45 TXEaglesFan said at 4:14 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    that would stink, but wouldn’t feel nearly as painful as the 1991 team that missed with a 10-6 record. Heartbreaking loss to cowboys after gang green revived an almost lost season of qb merry go round

46. 
    46 Sporran said at 4:18 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Bottom line is that I can’t be too hard on the team if they win 11 games — at this point in their development. Next year is another matter.

47. 
    47 Media Mike said at 7:36 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    The Cowboys scored a decisive TD on a punt return that should have been called back for an illegal block.

48. 
    48 wee2424 said at 3:40 AM on December 17th, 2014:

    Not first ever. Patriots went 11-5 with at helm and didnt make playoffs

49. 
    49 Ark87 said at 4:14 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Getting to the playoffs and winning a game would be a nice tangible step forward from last year. Doesn’t actually mean anything as far as if we are actually getting any better, but it helps the fans or validates the players’ hard work to get better year to year, its worth it. Always is discouraging when better input doesn’t yield better output.

50. 
    50 GermanEagle said at 4:17 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    This.

51. 
    51 Midnight_Greenville said at 4:19 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I think we are unquestionably better than last year, regardless of whether we make/win a playoff game. We will likely surpass last year’s record, despite playing a harder schedule, playing the bulk of best teams on our schedule all on the road, despite massive injuries to the O-line, despite playing with our back-up QB for 1/2 the year. Give Chip another year to build with a few improved players and experience for the ones on the roster and I expect continued improvement next year as well.

52. 
    52 Ark87 said at 4:34 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I agree, but something tangible is always nice too. Kudos on the Nike of Samothrace for you avatar, some cultured stuff right there. My personal favorite statue, every time I start thinking about how far we’ve come since ancient times, that statue humbles me haha.

53. 
    53 Midnight_Greenville said at 4:51 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Definitely would be beneficial to have a playoff win to solidify the perception of improvement. I have a soft spot in my heart for “Winged Victory.” I’m hoping for 5 (or maybe 6) more of them this year.

54. 
    54 Media Mike said at 7:36 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    That all works except for throwing away our division title. No team in the NFC East other than the Eagles should win this division. Dallas even being close, let alone leading us in division, is patently unacceptable.

55. 
    55 Media Mike said at 7:34 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    This is the exact reason for my rage at choking away the Dallas game. My “par” finish for the season was 11-5, a division title, and a win of a home playoff game before losing in the division round on the road.

56. 
    56 philliesfan123 said at 9:28 PM on December 17th, 2014:

    Draft picks will make the team better ….. not another empty, one and out in the playoffs. Everyone on this site ” KNOWS ” that there is NO chance in hell that the Eagles will be playing in January. Lets be real.

57. 
    57 Midnight_Greenville said at 4:15 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    It is so about matchups in the playoffs, and even though you can’t predict how things will shake out, there are possible scenarios (whether we win the division of make a wild card spot) of playing some teams we matchup fairly well against, like Dallas, or Arizona. I’d also love to see a rematch against Seattle, even if it’s in their building, just to see how the coaches and players respond to the last game. If we get Foles back and the right matchup you never know what will happen. So, bottom line is: Playoffs, please.

58. 
    58 MagsMightyMutt said at 5:16 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Foles? Rusty footloose Foles?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGCkmEFed5w

59. 
    59 botto said at 4:16 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    the eagles are not making the playoffs this year.. it’s over. I wish they would but they are done. WE might not even win these last two games either.
    our big shot was last year and we blew that saints game bad.
    I love foles but I would like to see this team with a Heisman winning qb that Chip already knows and that knows chip too. we can’t get him though so forget it.

60. 
    60 b3nz0z said at 4:49 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    ok go cry somewhere

61. 
    61 Mitchell said at 8:14 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Wait, wha? Go home, you’re drunk.

62. 
    62 botto said at 9:03 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I wish

63. 
    63 wee2424 said at 3:38 AM on December 17th, 2014:

    Cowboys lose to Indy or Bears and we beat Skins and Giants. It seems pretty realistic to me that we could still make playoffs. I think Indy can beat the Cowgirls. Im never going to count Andrew Luck out, and the other kind of luck also.

64. 
    64 GermanEagle said at 4:24 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Dude,
    Jay Gruden is doing everything in his power to get fired. I’ve never seen a coach to publicly criticize his QB like he’s just done in his press conference.
    Let’s all hope the Eagles jump out to a quick lead so RGIII does have to read our defense while dropping back, shall we?!

65. 
    65 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:27 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Shux i read that.. Writing on the wall for RGIII

66. 
    66 BlindChow said at 5:13 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I heard he’s going to defect during Saturday’s game!

67. 
    67 Henly125 said at 4:36 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Anybody see that video of LeSean imitating DJac? Lol pretty foolish.. Wonder what Chip thinks about that.

68. 
    68 GermanEagle said at 4:39 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Not a fan of this. However I thought both were “bros”?!

69. 
    69 D3FB said at 4:48 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    They are he’s just clowning on his buddy.

70. 
    70 Henly125 said at 4:57 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Yep.. I’m sure they still are bros… To me it just looks bad considering the bad blood DeSean has towards this organization. Apparently “Jay Ray” on the comment above doesn’t get that.

71. 
    71 jay ray said at 4:50 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    It was all in good fun, relax.

72. 
    72 Henly125 said at 4:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Haven’t you noticed DeSean continuously blast this organization and its players? What’s fun about that? Please tell me lol

73. 
    73 Tyler Phillips said at 4:53 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Chip might need to change a few of his ideas. Specifically about what he really needs at QB.

74. 
    74 Sporran said at 4:59 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    What better QB option has Chip passed up on because of what he feels he “needs”?

75. 
    75 bdbd20 said at 6:27 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I think this is the key point. He hasn’t had many options. The guys he could have had: Alex Smith, Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Johnny Football.

    Not gonna have much choices this off-season either. Foles is probably still the best option.

76. 
    76 anon said at 7:53 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    think we tried for A Smith, but they wanted too much. Hard to tell what he would have looked like (I think good) but they suck this year.

77. 
    77 MichaelFloyd84 said at 10:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Teddy Bridgewater would look mighty good in green and actually give the team some hope beyond QB purgatory

78. 
    78 GEAGLE said at 5:23 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    .
    It’s so ridiculous seeing fans trashing chip, billy D, all our players..of course the media is leading the way…I know a lot of the dumb media and fans are too Simple minded and basic to realize it, but even tho last year was a much sexier eagkes season, if we win the last two game, this will have been an even more impressive coaching job than last season..
    ..
    Last season, we won what? 10 games, behind the top run game, and the best OL in the history of this franchise, and a QB having a ridiculous 27-2 year?..
    This year we will have been hit with ever bit of adversity imaginable, played against a much tougher schedule, horrendous injury luck, 13 different OL combinations, and we still might win 11 friggin games, which is more than last years Dream year against an easier schedule..
    …
    The only team that can claim to be as tough and well coached as us is the arizona Cardinals… Everyone else favorite teams are a bunch of front running frauds, Denver WOULDNT be anything without Peyton, they would forfeit the season just about if he got hurt lol.. The great Greenbay Packers have proven to be nothing without 1 man (QB Aaron Rogers), Seattle WOULDNT do anything without Russel Wilson….
    …
    Even really really good teams in this league are NOTHING when they lose their QB. Our coaches had to spend the year putting out more fires than Danny Watkins… Chip Kelly’s Eagles, and Bruce Arians cardinals, were the only two teams that no matter who got injured, how many players got injured, the coaching, Charecter and toughness of those football teams was still going to shine thru…. I’d put the Patriots in that category because I seen them compete without BRady in the past… All the other great coaches and top teams are just as good as their starting QB
    …
    This year is turning out to be a heartbreaker, but it’s ridiculous to see this soft FANBASE over react, and rip our coaches… You spoiled bitches should be appreciative that elite coaches could keep it together in a year we almost experienced as much bad luck as the 4-12 year

79. 
    79 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:25 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Hmm are you the real GEAGLE?? lol

80. 
    80 GEAGLE said at 5:26 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I think that was pretty official vintage GEAGLE, WOULDNT you say?

81. 
    81 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:28 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    haha just checking bro

82. 
    82 GEAGLE said at 5:28 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Cheers

83. 
    83 NickS1, Armchair GM said at 8:57 AM on December 17th, 2014:

    Hope there’s a way to get the three seed while Dallas gets the 6, or vice versa. I want to see them again in the playoffs and crush them.

84. 
    84 mtn_green said at 5:47 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Playoffs is always preferable. It is too bad when eagles had the lead on cowboys they couldn’t finish them.

85. 
    85 Media Mike said at 7:32 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Yeah, that whole play hard and focused football for 60 minute thing was a bit tricky for them on Sunday.

86. 
    86 GEAGLE said at 5:49 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    It’s killing me that we aren’t going to see FOles again this year… All the adversity we were going thru all year was ok, because everything was set up perfectly for FOles to get his heally line back for the final stretch of games.,to not see Nick, and him not get the much needed game time is like a giant gloomy cloud following me since the new from the Doctor yesterday.
    ..
    As down as I am, Tom is right tho, there is always value in making the playoffs. Plus, as football junkies let’s not pretend we wouldn’t give our arm for one more game before the season end and we have to wait out a long offseason..
    ..
    There is a lot to still play for, and some interesting things to see, like Brandon Graham starting in place of COLE and playing extended snaps,
    ,,
    I can’t help wishing that we could see Barkley these last two games. I don’t have much belief in him, but I also don’t know what we have, and I wouldn’t mind seeing what he can do towards the end of year two with the starters…but until we are eliminated chip can’t do that to the locker room, he has to play who gives them their best chance to win…
    ..
    Frustrating because good game or bad game, we pretty much know what sanchez is…not a starting QB, but caoable of being a top backüp, who can keep you above water shot term if your QB gets hurt… We are down on sanchez because he isn’t playing well and expect more from the veteran, and even tho I don’t have any faith in him more than being a quality backüp, he is capable of much better play then how he is performing lately,. He is better tha sundays performance…it really hurts to watch the replay these past two weeks and see how many wide open guys he didn’t see open..
    ..
    I have pretty much no faith in Barkley, but I would love to turn it over to him these last two games against beatable competition… If he could pull off these last two wins, his value would be raised a bit, and we can sit him back on the bench where he can’t do ANYTHNG to lose any value lol
    …
    Watching sanchez the rest of the way, someone we know ISNT THE answer, just doesn’t excite me. But for the young defenders and proud veterans busting their ass playing thru injuries all year I hope these men are rewarded with playoffs…they overcame so much, they deserve it…even tho I’m disgusted by the letdowns sunday. Don’t mind losing, but I can’t stand not playing Up to our ability, beating ourselves

87. 
    87 anon said at 7:51 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I’m annoyed b/c he doesn’t heal as fast as aaron rodgers. I would have liked to see him finish strong. Hopefully he can play 16 games next year, too many backup QBs have seen meaningful time in philly.

88. 
    88 BC1968 said at 5:51 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Root hard for the Bears @ 1 and then the Colts @ 4:25. If the Colts win we can cruise into the playoffs, if Chicago wins, we have to be pretty damn sure they aren’t going into Green Bay and winning the last game of the season.

    This is all predicated on the Eagles winning. The Packers game will not be meaningless no matter what because the Pack cannot tie Detroit, they have to be a game ahead.

89. 
    89 GermanEagle said at 6:32 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    It really amazes me that some fans still see our last two games as gimmies. I’d call it ‘inability to learn’. #cruisin

90. 
    90 BC1968 said at 6:46 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Predicated doesn’t mean gimme.

91. 
    91 GermanEagle said at 6:47 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    My bad. Then I was misinterpreting your word ‘cruising’.

92. 
    92 BC1968 said at 6:50 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    That’s true, my bad actually, I forgot that I wrote cruise so my second paragraph doesn’t gel with my first. i could see all happening for us and then that Beckham character fuck everything up for us. Cruising would turn to crushing, as in my dreams.

93. 
    93 GermanEagle said at 7:05 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    All good in the (Twitter) hood. 😉

94. 
    94 GEAGLE said at 5:52 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Bout time Brain Dawkins give Nate Allen a public undressing!! He didn’t say Nate by name, just called him “the safety”, but it was about Nate letting Dez destroy us andd Nate was usually on that side not jenkins

95. 
    95 Henly125 said at 6:04 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I was very pleased with Dawk for expressing his frustration. He made a great point that our safeties have poor instincts, and it’s true.

96. 
    96 BC1968 said at 5:53 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I keep seeing Romo’s thumbs up and smile at Dez going through my mind, it’s pretty disturbing, the most disturbing thing to me that has ever happened between these two teams.

97. 
    97 Avery Greene said at 7:06 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    It was the same look Rodgers was giving with this secondary. They’re horrid. Everyone knows it, even though they won’t admit it at the Novacare to all of us. There will be changes next year.

98. 
    98 BC1968 said at 5:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    I wonder how long it took to clean all the peanuts shells from Jerry’s box at the Linc from that elephant they let in there.

99. 
    99 mtn_green said at 6:46 PM on December 16th, 2014:

    Guessing he won’t be running for nj governor again.

100. 
     100 mtn_green said at 7:08 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Or maybe he is a genius and there are more cowboys fans in nj than giants or eagles.

101. 
     101 anon said at 7:50 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Texas has a lot of electoral votes and a lot of republicans.

102. 
     102 GEAGLE said at 6:03 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     I’m sittng here still furious over our offensive line. Seeing DEZ destroy Bradley just doesn’t surprise me much anymore I guess.. But I can’t explain how much MJ blood is still bubbling over our OL performance….Calling Dallas pass,Rush average, might be a complimemt, for our OL to allow as much pressure as they did to that crap line is just despicable……
     .
     We have seen Nut Stunts before, no reason why they should have been so successful against our run blocking….
     …
     As a team we have plenty of holes, and sometime we just have to live with the consequences.. But no excuse that in a must win game, THAT important, at home, against a hated Rival, with the entire season on the line, our OL allows an inferior DL to outplay them… I can live with being ur played by better players… But for Jason Kelce, Jason Peters, Evan Mathis, Lane Jphnson to allow the Dallas DL to Shut us down like that is a disgrace!
     ..,
     Even worse, last two important games, two close games at half time, we open the 3rd quarter in both games by turning it over at Crucial times…
     ..
     Sunday fucking hurts… It really hurts… And to not see FOles again this year really makes it bad…
     …
     One thng Im happy about, is as Pathetic as the skins are, they have a good pass rush. So if our OL doesn’t get its head out of its ass and play to its ability they will get killed again… What you gonna do boys? Step up or further embarrassment?

103. 
     103 anon said at 7:50 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Maybe last year was an illusion for a lot of reasons, maybe it takes more than a couple of weeks to get that continuity back, maybe gardiner really is a liability in run pro, maybe it’s all those things. I hope we blow out our opponents these last two games, they will def. be gunning for us.

104. 
     104 GermanEagle said at 6:40 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     You know what?! Forget about the frigging Cowgirls for a minute, the Redskins are actually the team I hate the second most!
     Let’s invade Washington and come back with Snyder’s scalp. Let’s crush RGIII and send Desean the crybaby back to his mommy. Let’s hit Baker so hard that he will never remember his cheap shot on our beloved son Foles.
     Let’s make this Dallas loss a thing of the past and get to bloody 10-5. I want the win, we need the win. The city of Philadelphia deserves some hope. Make this a warm Xmas for everyone who bleeds green.
     Let’s. Go. Eagles.
     Merry Xmas.

105. 
     105 P_P_K said at 8:03 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     “Let’s hit Baker so hard that he will never remember his cheap shot on our beloved son Foles.”

     Jason Peters is the man for the job.

106. 
     106 shah8 said at 7:12 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Running backs are NOT devalued in the NFL, not by the people who intend to win. Less attempts overall means high quality is needed for those attempts.

107. 
     107 RobNE said at 8:30 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     http://www.footballperspective.com/declining-running-back-value-in-the-draft/

     your statement seems kinda wrong**
     **assumes those responsible for drafting are trying to win

108. 
     108 Mitchell said at 12:01 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Whats new? *hue hue

109. 
     109 shah8 said at 1:28 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     /me be all mensch and shit…

     Why do you think the Bills gave us a relatively high pick for Bryce Brown, when they already had good RBs? Or why Bengals using a second rounder for Jeremy Hill, when they have Gio Bernard?

     Have you ever looked at what happens to teams that don’t have good running games? If the playoffs were to happen today, I think the trio of Detroit Lions, Arizona Cardinals, and Indianapolis Colts, the only probable playoff teams with bad rushing attacks, are likely to be bounced relatively quickly, for reasons that do have a lot to do with not having a good rushing attack.

     This is one of those things where people talk themselves into believing bullshit. A bad rushing attack is usually very bad for your team. Talking about how RBs are devalued is a good way of cheating RBs of their due compensation for allowing their bodies to get so beat up so quickly, even for football.

110. 
     110 Media Mike said at 7:30 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     It is a no-brainer to want to be in the playoffs. Especially if able to win one’s division and host a home playoff game.

     Shame the effort by the team on Sunday didn’t support that desire to make the playoffs.

111. 
     111 anon said at 7:47 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     yeah i really don’t know what to say about yesterday. just unlucky. They scored 24 unanswered — just turnover after turnover it’s demoralizing for both offense and defense.

112. 
     112 GEAGLE said at 7:39 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Learn something new everyday. I never heard this before but thinking about it it’s pretty true.. “98% of fumbles happen when the ball is 6 inches away from the ground (as the ball carrier is falling to the ground)
     ..
     are we hoping Demarco plays against the colts or not? One thing about Demarcos running style, is he is a power back. Uses one hand to carry the ball, and the other hand to stiff arm you, fight defenders off him so he can pick up a few extra yards. If he can’t use his other hand to fight backs off him, those 700 yards he has racked up after initial contact won’t mean much Against the Colts… Plus you know the colts will he trying to hold him up, with Daqwell Jaclson trying to rip the ball free…
     …
     He also becomes a liability in pass protection.. Still, how is Everyone viewing this situation? Do we want Demarco to play? Or Do we hope he is foolish enough to risk playing such an important game with one arm?

113. 
     113 anon said at 7:46 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Rather not play than play — indy run D is terrible.

114. 
     114 NickS1, Armchair GM said at 8:47 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Exactly. If Indy can’t stop Randle/Dunbar, then maybe it just wasn’t meant to be.

115. 
     115 RobNE said at 8:21 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     rather he not play. If he plays there is a chance he plays well.

     are the games at the same time? yes I am lazy.

116. 
     116 mtn_green said at 11:07 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Murray ran over everyone but eagles.

117. 
     117 BC1968 said at 7:54 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     THis is a must listen, Chris Christie Xmas song from Conklin on WIP http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/audio/angelo-cataldi-and-the-morning-team/conklin-chris-christies-xmas-cd/

118. 
     118 ICDogg said at 1:41 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Yeah… the pics of Christie high fiving and getting all huggy with Jerry Jones probably put the last nail in his political coffin

119. 
     119 anon said at 7:56 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Any thoughts on the PCs from the coordinators? I haven’t listened yet, but I can’t wait to hear what billy d has to say.

120. 
     120 Avery Greene said at 7:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Fletcher works hard and doesn’t let any plays bother him… Blah Blah Blah… Fletcher is all we have right now, Carroll is our dime CB, so he’s like a starter… Blah Blah Blah… Fletcher was there in coverage but he got beat… Blah Blah Blah…

121. 
     121 Jarock said at 9:42 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Fletcher’s become Chip’s version of Andy Reid’s Chad Hall. Difference is, Chad wasn’t a starter.

122. 
     122 GermanEagle said at 9:49 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     We should switch positions: let’s put Sproles at CB and try Fletcher as punt returner. It cannot get any worse, can it?!

123. 
     123 wee2424 said at 3:12 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     I heard they switched Marcus Smith to CB.

124. 
     124 James Adair said at 3:19 PM on December 17th, 2014:

     I think you mean Reno Mahe.

125. 
     125 Jarock said at 7:00 PM on December 17th, 2014:

     Even better example. Both guys hung around the team, Mahe even longer than Hall, despite clearly not having enough talent.

126. 
     126 unhinged said at 10:56 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     I thought CK’s was the more blunt and telling than BD’s: “…pick your poison. We put safety help on Dez and Witten burned us; we doubled Witten and they hit Dez…”. I know Fletcher is getting slammed, but I agree with Kelly when he says they own it as a team. Bryant’s TD’s were as if he was all alone on the field. The rush wasn’t there the safety wasn’t there, there was little or no contact with Bryant at LOS, and Romo was dead on. I think BD has to defend Fletcher because he called the game and it was a big F.

127. 
     127 oreofestar said at 9:12 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Robert Griffin III:”Just from afar, Chip Kelly’s offense is very similar to what we did at Baylor. …He’s proven it can work in the [NFL].”

128. 
     128 anon said at 10:47 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     yeah you know what he’s doing.

129. 
     129 Mitchell said at 11:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     The idea is intriguing but because Bob is made of toothpicks, it wouldn’t last long.

130. 
     130 ICDogg said at 1:37 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Sports science!

     http://www.collegescholarships.org/images/sports-science-scholarships.jpg

131. 
     131 James Durant said at 9:20 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     I don’t even wanna talk about the play off until after we beat the skins. Until then all of this is nice but pointless

132. 
     132 daveH said at 9:58 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     playoffs?
     play offs ? im just trying to win a game !

133. 
     133 GermanEagle said at 10:01 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Mora?

134. 
     134 Baloophi said at 10:20 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Lessa.

135. 
     135 GermanEagle said at 10:25 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Lola.

136. 
     136 daveH said at 7:33 PM on December 18th, 2014:

     DJ Steve Porter “Press Hop” 1 & 2 .. on my permanent playlist/cant ever get enough of it.

137. 
     137 MichaelFloyd84 said at 9:32 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Respectfully disagree. Mediocre is worse than bad. Eagles have WAY too many holes to be competitive against good teams. And it’s shown time and time again. I’d rather not watch them shit themselves on national television again.

138. 
     138 MagsMightyMutt said at 1:42 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Then don’t.

139. 
     139 wee2424 said at 3:05 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     How is mediocre worse then bad? You dont just jump from bad team like 2012 to some great team. Its called progression. Every great team was mediocre before they became great. You want to go from the crawling stage to the sprinting stage in the snap of a finger. That horrible 2012 season was only two years ago bud. Since then playoffs last year, probably a 11-5 season this year, and yes, it is possible we might not make the playoffs. I.dont care what you say but when a team goes 10-6 or 11-5 with the amount of injuries we have had, i will list them a little above mediocre. Take a second and read what you say before you hit the post button.

140. 
     140 Eagles_Fan_in_San_Fran said at 9:37 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     I’m actually rooting for NO to win out and finish 8-8, because if they don’t – and we miss out with an 11-5 record – I’m going to be as pissed off as this guy:

141. 
     141 Mitchell said at 9:54 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Like because the Hulk is my favorite Marvel character.

142. 
     142 daveH said at 9:57 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Thor.

143. 
     143 GermanEagle said at 10:01 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Spiderman.

144. 
     144 GENETiC-FREAK said at 10:07 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Catman.

145. 
     145 GermanEagle said at 10:09 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Huh?

146. 
     146 GENETiC-FREAK said at 10:12 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     You know Catman.. lol

147. 
     147 GermanEagle said at 10:13 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     I know Batman and Catwoman, the latter I prefer to date.

148. 
     148 Henly125 said at 10:36 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Iron man!

149. 
     149 A_T_G said at 11:30 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Man, would you look at you people? We drop out of first place for two days and we are running to our parents basements to look for our comics. Show a little perseverance. Show a little intestinal fortitude. You know, like Tony Starks.

150. 
     150 Henly125 said at 11:44 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     lol couldn’t help it, man.

151. 
     151 Mitchell said at 10:18 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Hulk kicks Thor’s ass but Thor is pretty cool too.

152. 
     152 GermanEagle said at 10:20 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

153. 
     153 sonofdman said at 10:32 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Ha Ha! I love it!

154. 
     154 Henly125 said at 10:40 PM on December 16th, 2014:

     Lmaoooooo I love that sh*t.

155. 
     155 Mitchell said at 12:03 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Whatever happened to our 3 headed monster at RB? We saw it for 2 games and it was glorious. Literally all Polk does is score td’s and yet we don’t see him very often, although I was glad to FINALLY see him in goal-line situations. It probably had to do with Polk being hurt so much and now we are so far into the season Polk is getting the Nolan Carroll treatment, in the sense that we are already entrenched in what we do. It helps that McCoy is no slouch.

156. 
     156 Tyler Phillips said at 12:26 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     I can’t talk playoffs until we get in because I dont think we deserve to be in. And no I’m not going to rail against everyone but it is moronic that we ever throw the ball to Cooper or run single high S with a S that has okay speed and no instincts. It’s been disturbing seeing the amount of games where we seem shocked what the Opposing defenses are doing or speak after the game saying “man they didn’t do that stuff on tape” even though, while not being on that team’s tape, it isn’t much different from how other teams play us. I must admit I’ve been underwhelmed by Chips adjustments, esp considering how good he was at adjusting at Oregon.

157. 
     157 BobSmith77 said at 12:41 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Of course the Eagles should want to make the playoffs instead of throwing away what might be an 11-5 season. As ridiculous as some of the calls this week to start Barkley.

158. 
     158 ICDogg said at 1:19 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     http://www.pajiba.com/image/tumblr_m2x77lk2jx1r4vv0w.gif

159. 
     159 Poppi said at 5:15 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Birds defense leads the league in number of plays defensed and in time on the field. Last couple of games we have been on “D” twice as long as the opponent. We almost lead the league in yards penalized by the “D”. Opposite end of the range – Seattle.

160. 
     160 ICDogg said at 5:36 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     http://media.giphy.com/media/Ndb82bzY0VsiY/giphy.gif

161. 
     161 Guest said at 7:09 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     http://i.giphy.com/bjfv14wZU7PiM.gif

162. 
     162 Tyler Phillips said at 7:20 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     ..

163. 163 The Linc – Brian Dawkins is upset with the Eagles defense | nflfans247.net said at 6:47 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     […] Playoff Talk – Iggles BlitzMaking the playoffs is no substitute for winning the Super Bowl, but those scenarios work hand-in-hand, not opposed to each other. This isn’t like I’m a college basketball fan bragging about NIT titles. The first step to getting to the Super Bowl is making the playoffs. I know some of you could argue that there is a benefit to bottoming out and getting a high pick. The Eagles did that in 2012 and got Lane Johnson for their troubles. This team has a lot of key pieces in place. The problems that do exist don’t have to be solved by high picks. I’d love for the Eagles to have a true, unquestioned franchise QB, but just because you draft high doesn’t mean you’ll get one. See Mark Sanchez for example 1. […]

164. 
     164 eagleyankfan said at 8:04 AM on December 17th, 2014:

     Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins Redskins
     Doesn’t matter what Dallas or Saints do if the Eagles don’t take care of their own business….

165. 
     165 philliesfan123 said at 8:53 PM on December 17th, 2014:

     I could be wrong , but if the Eagles would have picked 2 picks sooner last year they could / would have drafted Ha Ha Clinton Dix. I would say that would have made a HUGE difference to this team. Especially because they panicked and took Marcus Smith III. Also missing the playoffs doesn’t change your pick by 1 or 2 places in the draft. The Eagles moved down 6 places in the draft last year, just by making it to the playoffs.

166. 
     166 philliesfan123 said at 8:59 PM on December 17th, 2014:

     Also how can you compare what the Eagles did with what the Cardinals did ? Arizona moved down, and then drafted a ( good ) player, who has been having a impact on his team this year. The Eagles moved down ( because all the players that they coveted ) were already gone ….. not because it doesn’t matter if you pick at # 22 or # 26.

167. 
     167 philliesfan123 said at 9:06 PM on December 17th, 2014:

     How can Tommy say that it’s no big deal ? If the Eagles would have lost to Dallas last year in that final game, instead of winning and going to the playoffs, they would have picked @ # 16 in the draft ( Dallas’s spot. ) That would have made a HUGE difference. They could have easily moved up 1 or 2 spots and drafted OLB – Ryan Shazier or CB – Kyle Fuller. Or they could have stayed put and drafted C. J Mosley, Calvin Pryor, Brandon Cooks or Ha Ha Clinton Dix. Tell me that wouldn’t have been a much, much better draft.