GM Update
Posted: January 18th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 1,014 Comments »The Eagles search for a new personnel guy continues. The team had interviewed Brian Gaine from the Houston Texans and there was reportedly interest, but Gaine got a raise and a promotion from Houston. The Texans had already lost another executive (to the Jets) so I’m guessing they felt they had to keep Gaine around.
My two favorite candidates for the job were Gaine and Scott Fitterer. Gaine is out now and the Eagles haven’t been able to interview Fitterer yet. He’s off limits until the Seahawks lose. Should that happen today, we’ll see what happens.
Some readers have asked about Eliot Wolf of the Packers. I haven’t seen anything official, but it sure sounds like he is staying in Green Bay. The Packers are a top notch organization and Ted Thompson is a great GM. That team also lives and dies with the draft so scouts likely feel a special connection to that organization. There are some teams around the league where scouts are treated like second class citizens. They work relentlessly all year only to see coaches and other executives get into the process late and ignore their research. I only know of this happening once with the Eagles (in the Reid-Kelly era), when Andy Reid drafted Jaiquawn Jarrett in the 2nd round in 2011. Scouts had him rated lower than that.
The Eagles can simply promote Ed Marynowitz if they think he’s the answer. I think he could do a good job. My guess is that Chip Kelly is taking his time with the search to make sure he doesn’t overlook someone. There isn’t a mad rush to make the hire. The scouts have worked all summer and fall long in doing reports on prospects. The pro scouts have done their work.
As to the Senior Bowl…those practices are videotaped and teams get copies of everything that happens. The only thing that would be missed is player interviews, and it is possible that the team records them. The new personnel guy needs to be here and ready to roll when decisions have to be made. Ideally you’d like him already in place, but that isn’t a necessity. There is no reason to rush this decision.
One odd note to this whole situation…Tom Gamble remains unemployed and I haven’t seen any report of him getting looked at by another team. I don’t know if teams are nervous about talking to him due to stories that might be floating around or if possibly Kelly is still trying to work out something to bring him back. I doubt that happens, but this has been a strange situation so never say never.
In the title I called this the “GM Update”. The job won’t really be a GM, but that is much easier to use in a title than “New Player Personnel Executive”.
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LeSean McCoy came out and threw his support behind Nick Foles as the Eagles QB.
“I like Nick. The person and player that everybody thought he was, he is. There were a lot of injuries this year, Nick, obviously got injured. He gets all of the blame and he shouldn’t,” said McCoy, who finished third in the league with 1,319 yards rushing in 2014. “I think Nick’s a good quarterback. He’s the leader of our team. Things just didn’t work out for him this year due to injury, but we’ve got his back. As a team, we didn’t play well enough to win and get into the playoffs.”
While this is good to hear, it is fairly meaningless. Who else is McCoy going to support? Matt Barkley? Mike Vick is a distant memory. Mark Sanchez is a free agent.
McCoy did the right thing by supporting his guy. There is a very good chance that Foles will be the starter in 2015 so anything less than an endorsement would have only stirred the pot and created an easy story for the media to beat into the ground for weeks, if not months.
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Tommy, I could just be a paranoid Negadelphian, but I’m worried the Eagles haven’t hired anyone because no-one wants to come here to work. That’s not true, right? RIGHT?!
Jeff Lurie is a good owner. Chip Kelly is a good coach. The Eagles have several guys in the Pro Bowl. They have plenty of draft picks and cap space. This is an organization that people want to work for.
The only hesitation is that the new guy will be Kelly’s lieutenant. This isn’t a full GM job. That does limit the interest guys will have in the position.
Go back to 2001. The Eagles let go of a full GM in Tom Modrak and replaced him with a no-name in Tom Heckert. We’re looking at a similar type of situation now. Reid made a terrific hire when he brought Heckert on. Let’s hope Kelly does the same thing.
Yes, but that hire wasn’t until May. Teams are more willing to let lower-level executives go then versus January when they’re in the middle of evaluations.
think it’d be hard for a guy to come in and really have anything to say regarding this draft. Guys who are currently employed are scouting for their current teams. It’d be hard to come here, learn what we want and need and try to get smart on prospects in a month and half, to a point where you can overturn some of what kelly is thinking.
Its not as bad as it seems. We’re not the Rams , that F/O ownership is…….
Gaine just got a raise and a promotion because he was offered this job. Maybe he only used it to get that, but that still shows that the Eagles job has value because guys gets promoted once they are in talk with the Eagles
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Hey Tommy,
Can the Eagles interview Fitterer this week regardless? Isn’t there a rule that coaches etc. can interview the bye week before the superbowl week?
If they’ve already had a 1st interview(only allowed if they have a bye week) then they can have a 2nd interview. They can’t have a 1st interview.
This seems arcane and stupid
Did anyone get a chance to watch Taiwan Jones yesterday?
Agree with Tommy..for many of the good candidates this position is either a lateral career move or a step down. The Eagles are a good organization that people want to work for, but they may need to get a younger rising talent for this position and that worries me because I want someone experienced and competent to challenge Chip. It is extremely difficult to perform all the roles Chip has now and extremely rare coaches in that situation succeed. I really hope this works out, but if Chip does not win in the 2-3 years I think he is gone.
A couple of comments on the “GM” search:
Manpower wise, there isn’t a real need to bring in another voice. The Eagles already have a lot of experienced scouts in the organization.
Tom Donahoe – Senior Football Advisor – Longtime GM of Pittsburgh and Buffalo
Rick Mueller – Director of Pro Personnel – Previously Vice President of Player Personnel with New Orleans
Anthony Patch – Director of College Scouting
Ed Marynowitz – Assistant Director of Player Personnel – up-and-comer
Louis Clark – Pro Scout – Formerly Jaguars’ Director of Pro Personnel
Mike Bradway – Assistant Director of College Scouting
Mike Davis – Midwest Area Scout – Formerly Jets’ Assistant Director of College Scouting
There’s enough decks on hand to get the Eagles through this draft. This hire is more about finding someone who looks at players through the same lens as Kelly does and Kelly has confidence in. If reports can be believed, the chemistry between Kelly and Roseman/the scouts was bad last season. We are likely eventually looking at a complete revamping of the scouting staff. The issue is that it may be difficult to impossible to accomplish that before the 2015 draft. The “GM” position that is available doesn’t come with total control and as such other teams can block us from interviewing them. They’re in the midst of planning for the draft and free agency. Why should they let anyone go if they don’t have to? The Eagles choices are likely going to be limited to either guys that were fired from other organizations or executives with other organizations that that team is willing to let go because of some type of behind-the-scenes dysfunction similar to what we reportedly had. The contracts of scouts/personnel executives typically end after the draft. That is when real change can occur. For now, I think Kelly is just looking for someone outside the organization that can bring fresh perspective as an advisor. For scouting for this draft, I think they’ll have to rely on the holdovers with Marynowitz probably taking on a lead role.
Which is it – a fresh perspective or someone who looks at players through the same lens as Kelly? You mention both…I’d support more of a fresh perspective type who has strong opinions, can challenge Kelly and together they can make sure the right choices are made
As I mentioned a few days ago, Bill Musgrave is a serious candidate for the
Raiders’ offensive coordinator job.
Bill Williamson
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Historically, Musgrave has done a better job as a QBs coach than he did as an offensive coordinator. I was glad Shurmur didn’t leave because I didn’t want him promoted. You have to question the job that Musgrave did as a QBs coach considering Foles’ performance this year but obviously a lot of things factored in there. I don’t care if Musgrave leaves. The thing that concerns me is that if he does then Foles will have his 4th QBs coach in 4 years. All QB coaches teach things differently and having to adjust constantly is an issue.
Per @mortreport Eagles QB coach Bill Musgrave a hot contender for #Raiders OC job
PFT has Lane Kiffin also a possibility in Oakland.
hhahaha
With the 49ers, not Oakland.
Besides no Gamble sighting, there’s reports of Howie vacationing on the beach on an island. Perhaps as in get away and overcome your disappointment on being demoted. What if after considering everything, Howie decides to move on? Then we would be looking for a real GM and the field of candidates changes slightly as does the desirability of the position.
He has $1.7M reasons not to. Howie might want to but if he did, his wife would punch him in the face.
I’m impressed with Shady’s remarks. He could have simply offered some perfunctory words that one would expect of a teammate. Seems to me, though, he spoke more forcefully and truly gave Nick some significant support. Imagine if Foles really is a good leader and franchise qb. Life would become so simple.
Shady seems the type of person that if he has to just go through the motions he will do it in a halfass way, such as “yeah, Nick is a good QB”. The way he came out and said that i truely beleive thats how he really feels, along with a bunch of other teammates.
You don’t have to imagine reality… Just give it a little water, sunlight, patiemce and watch it grow into our reality. The kid is legit
I’m not sure about Foles’ talent yet. But there is zero doubt in my mind that he has the personality for the job. He clearly commands the respect of his teammates – Shady’s not the only guy who’s spoken out forcefully for him (Maclin, Herremans, Kelce, and Peters have all done likewise) and you could see how pissed off his teammates were when he took that cheap shot from Chris Baker against the Redskins.
David Dunn is Chip Kelly’s agent. It’d be interesting to know which potential “GM” candidates Dunn also represents. That is often a factor. The guys we are targeting might be lower level enough that they don’t have big-name agents.
Dunn is principally a players’ agent.
http://www.athletesfirst.net/
I poked around looking for the answer to (a) how Kelly hooked up with Dunn in the first place, and (b) the very question you’re asking.
Found nothing worth reporting.
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Unreal story from @JayGlazer just now: NFL threatening to eject Marshawn Lynch if he wears gold cleats. Team still unsure if he’ll comply.
That’d be funny as hell. Go Packers.
That I’d love to see.
Because Las Vegas — and every book around the world taking bets today — would explode.
Seems in the past uniform violations resulted in fines, not preemptive ejections.
What’s the deal?
The NFL backed off and said they won’t eject him but won’t let him play until he puts on normal cleats. The difference between past uniform violations and this is Lynch’s track record.
Lynch’s track record w/ uniform violations?
Or his overall record regarding NFL rule violations?
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I’m assuming it’s uniforms.
What exactly are those violations?
(I think cleats have been a past problem; not sure.)
Another possibility on the GM search: Chip really doesn’t care. The scouting staff is in place. Chip wants to make the decisions.
Juts because Chip wanted Howie out of the picture doesn’t mean he necessarily wants someone else in his place. He didn’t get rid of Howie because he wants to share the decision making.
There are better uses of his time than micromanaging the personnel department.
But as you wrote, not like we do not have plenty veteran people in the building already
does veteran = good?
does Kelly care?
Well, if they wasnt good, would they still be here?
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I don’t know.
Roseman brought them in, after they all reached their level of incompetence.
They’re pretty senior guys (experience-wise, to be sure).
At least a couple of the young, promising Eagles scouts were shown the door as Roseman moved up the organizational ladder.
(Marc Ross and Jason Licht, for sure.)
At this point, I don’t know if the vets — like Donohoe and Mueller — are any good at all.
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It’s a very good, and important, question you’re asking.
Me? I’ll rely on Belichick’s guess-work on the subject (if he should weigh in).
Most have those guys who was shown the door by Howie hasnt really done anything great since leavingand a few like Licht was forced to move because they knew they couldnt be GMs with the Eagles because of Howie.
Licht went to Arizona in 2012, the year where Lurie gave Howie the power over Banner, so only natural a young guys leaves to make his own path.
Licht is the most successful guy who left during Howie ascend, the rest has flamed out.
I think Marc Ross is on the GM radar now for teams (he went to the Bills after leaving the Eagles; then to the Giants).
Licht became Tampa’s GM last year.
There are too many others to track down at the moment.
Yes, true, which is why I don’t think it’s essential to bring someone else in. However, I also don’t think it’s a good thing for Kelly to spend so much of his time attending every single Pro Day like he did last year. Let your scouting staff do the heavy lifting.
Why not let Kelly do the things that he enjoys? If Kelly love talking with prospects and scouting, let him do it as long as we win baby!
Coaches taking a lead role in scouting rarely works out well. It has in Seattle. Belichick’s track record as a GM is very spotty but he’s a good enough coach to compensate for personnel mistakes. Kelly can do whatever he wants but Lurie should rightly hold him accountable if things don’t work out.
Nobody minds Chip enjoying himself. Fans do mind that when it comes to submitting draft picks he makes Mel Kiper look like a genius.
T-Law wrote:
“Eagles haven’t been able to interview Fitterer yet. He’s off limits until the Seahawks lose.”
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Is it fair to assume Fitterer (and every other personnel guy around the NFL) is out on the “scouting” trail right now; for example, at the E-W Shrine game and the Senior Bowl.
Would it be tampering for Kelly to stand next to Fitterer and chit=chat about whatever it is football people chit-chat about — including *personal* philosophies about scouting and trading, as opposed to official team policy?
Just wondering.
Kelly can do whatever he wants. Just don’t get caught.
A very Belichickian philosophy, no?
Yes, and that’s a good thing.
Or get caught but have the league destroy the tapes.
lol, nice to have friends in high places, eh?
They can talk about everything except the Eagles job.
I doubt those conversations at the Senior Bowl are tapped by the FBI.
One would think.
And would that be enough for a guy like Kelly to make a hiring decision?
No, but as long as the new “GM” is hired before the combine, I cant really see a problem.
Howie and the scouts had already done a big work in scouting seniors and potential juniors in college and making a FA target list.
Looks like Seattle just took their “12th man” bit a little too far…
seattles dubs are really good. obviously sherm turned his head got position on the db and went for the pick.
Paging Billy D.:
CBs are allowed to turn their heads (—> Maxwell).
He is also better than Cary Williams and Fletcher combined and actually have the skills to turn his head
New priority in scouting. Forget about 40 times, we should be checking for neck flexibility. Clearly it’s more important.
True.
Letting Kuhn score on you is just a crappy way to go down. Huge stop in Lacy…lol no heart Packers kicking a FG on the goal line in first quarter smh…
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I’m in awe of just how good richard Sherman actually is. His play may exceed his mouth and that’s saying ALOT!!! last game Rodgers avoided his side like the plague, first drive he paid for testing him….curious to see how willing Rodgers will be to throw at that side the rest of this game
There is absolutely no way Sherman’s game is bigger than his mouth. If you listen to his mouth, he’s Deion Sanders and Dick ‘Night Train’ Lane in one package. He’s very good. No one is that good.
I dunno man, this fucker delivers in the biggest games… I’m a defensive fanatic with a love hate relationship with the corner position, and I’m in awe of his game… He always answers the bell, doesn’t need any safety help. Revis can’t hold his jock anymore
yeah i don’t want to believe he’s that good, but he’ll get the pick if you throw it his way.
It’s like I keep doubting him and he just keeps doing it and doing it…at some point I gotta waive the white flag, tip my hat and “bow down to a playa THATS greater than you”-Ice Cube west side connection….lol
Bad choice against a very good defense. Should have tried for the TD.
Yup.. Those 3 points will be irrelevant 5min from now…. Can’t play scared on road against a top defense.. They just let the defense get off the field feeling they won
Wow. Seattle off to a ‘Eagles vs. Dallas’ start to this game. Green Bay really needs to take advantage if they want to win this game.
We were giving Seatle problems early, we just committed Hari Kari to start the 3rd period and the clock struck 12 and Samchez turned back into a pumpkin
Seattle has not had a fast start in weeks.
Most 1st-half points for Seattle in their past 8 games is just 14 (3 times).
So you’re right — GB frittering away points is a bad idea.
would you go for it in those 4th and inches situations? i would have on the second one probably.
Absolutely yes on the 1st. Even the 2nd one, you need the as many points as possible against a very, very good Seattle defense. Also, Seattle’s offense isn’t built to play from behind. You put them in a 14pt hole from the beginning, you totally change the complexion of this game.
It should be automatic to go for 4th and goal from the 1st. If you fail, the other team has to go 99 yards
big Back, ball control, even for Gb
When GB loses this game, they’ll look back to the start of this game and wish they could have these two possessions back.
Need some play-by-play (no game access).
What happened on 2nd and goal at the 1 for GB?
Then 3rd and goal?
(Best description gets a gold start)
Thanks for all those great descriptions
Holy hell..during the NFC championship they just promoted Connor McGregor as the “Irish Muhammad Ali”…holy hell I have now seen it all smh
With a banged up OL Wilson looks worse than Foles
OL = EVERYTHING!!!
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Like Urban Meyer said, there is a reason the OL sits in FIRST CLASS instead of the QB who “eats last”… There is a reason few give millions and millions to these fat bastards that don’t even appear on a stat sheet……it’s a hole other game when the center Molk is getting blown back into your lap every other throwing play
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The best veteran RB who set franchise records couldn’t do anything behind our OL, but we are shocked our young QB struggled, especially considering the beatings he played thru?
That is one of the reasons, Im a fan of drafting a tackle in the first and a guard/center in the 3rd or 4th
I wouldn’t complain,,, I can’t complain. I’m a defensive fanatic and the truth is this regime is intent on putting an Insane amount of pressure on our defense with its style of offense, good offense will give my defense the best chance to succeeds and stock piling OL will give the offense the best chance to succeed..
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It ain’t sexy, but I can’t complain…….fingers crossed we get lucky, and we pluck an OL out of free agency who ends up being something between Mathis and Barbre,,,
How are we putting more pressure on the defense? Yes it might play more drives (but so will other defenses against us), but Seattles defense would still be a mammoth with our offense
Pats lost theirs last week, were down 14, still win
Pats “lost theirs”… Sorry but playing 10 different OL combinations in like 11 weeks is not the same….and I doubt ANY TEAM that has been successful has had to put 3 inexperienced backups into a game, all lined up next to each other on the interior linem and if that’s not enough, let’s change the veteran THATS lining up next to them every other game for good measure….NO, it’s NOT the same thing at ALL!! And if you understand how hard that is to overcome you can’t help but tip your hat to the way this team fought and overcame so much of it….couldn’t overcome all the crap, but they didn’t better than most
I am with you.
Yesterday I argued that trading for Mariota doesnt make sense. foles with a good OL and improved defense (because of draft picks) is greater than just having Mariota.
I also feel RW is waaaay overrated. The guy is great at making unscripted plays, but never has to win his team the game. They win with defense and a running game. I have said it a few times. foles would have had a championship last year if he was the QB of seattle.
Of course…. As if Luck, FOles, Cam, can’t play and win in Wilson’s shoes
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Luck would have 3 rings by now with Lynch and Seattles defense
Reid believed in OL over everything. That and he believed in ‘fastballs’ on defense. Led to a very good team for a long time, but never into a championship. You need a good OL, but you need talent at other positions too.
I think we have talent though. Shady may be the bst RB in the league. Maclin, Matthews, and Ertz may be the best group of young pass catchers this team has ever had. Add in sproles, huff, celek and we have plenty of weapons.
Defensively we need a bunch of help though
That’s my only hesitation when people say they want so many offensive lineman. We need at least one more talented young lineman from this draft. That would give us 3 young starters to go with two older, but still exceptionally talented guys. I’m not opposed to taking flyers on guys late in the draft either, but your odds of finding a quality starter after the 4th round goes down to roughly 10%. You can’t count on anyone that late developing into a starter. It’s pure luck at that point.
Losing it in the sun..wording lol.
When did Riley Cooper sign and start with the Packers? That being said Seattle CBs getting away with some penalties.
On the Seattle getting away w/shit, in other news, water is wet, the sky is blue . . .
It’s gray here in Philly right now though so you’re wrong!!!!!
Did you also see the crappy taunt, but Sherman gets zero for his taunting through the whole game?
Yup that’s just bs.
chancellor looks like he wrecks people over the middle — even big guys
Disastrous start for Seattle. WOOOT!!!!!
It should be 21-0 instead of only 13-0
Truth. Huge mistake on GB’s part. Hope it doesn’t bite them in the ass. Way too conservative.
Im not a believe in that we much have a true big back, but when you watch Lacy and Lynch, two guys who can both dance and run a guy over, I would love a guy like that
it’s necessary. blount, lacy, lynch, cj anderson. what do they all have in common.
Franchise QBs?
Do not ruin it for him.
A big back wont win you games alone (see AP), but it seems even the best QBs need a functional running game to elevate their game
haha i’m saying even franchise guys need it. passing game is volatile.
Gurley or Elliot in the future?
Of those two, I take Elliot.
This year, Im a big fan of Jay Ajayi, not as big as the others, but also much better receiver out of the back field
I’d take Mike Davis if he’s available in the 3rd.
I rather have Jay in that round or Duke Johnson. Not a big fan of Davis.
Idk if Duke will be there for us in the 3rd but I agree I would take Duke over Davis if he’s there.
Right now, I have zero clue about which RBs go where, Most agree Gordon and Gurley goes 1 and 2 (in some order), who the 3rd and 4th will be and when is tough to predict right now.
We have a guy like that on the squad. He just can’t stay healthy. Polk’s not as good as either Marshawn or Lacy, but he’s the same style back. Wish the Eagles would find a way to get him a few more touches.
“Wish the Eagles would find a way to get him a few more touches.”
(a) can’t stay healthy
(b) scheme really requires a 3 down back, can’t substitute running blur attack.
The Eagles often shift RB during a drive
True on both, but even when he’s healthy, they don’t get him in as often as they should. Lot’s of subbing won’t ever occur in our offense, but somehow they manage to limit Lesean’s touches.
yea, but as you said Polk cant stay healthy. I do think Polk is just as good as Lacy when healthy, he just cant stay healthy
Anyone have any belief colts can win today? If I am pats fan I love the start of this Seattle game.
If the Patriots manage to blow the game against Indy after stomping them in Indy earlier this year, I will be very surprised.
see gb vs seattle
Luck has 8INT in 3 games vs Bellicek….. No, I need to see it to believe it. The fact that luck carried them this far is impressive in itself…
Me neither.
Question.. If Eagles cant interview Fitterer for GM how can Falcons interview Dan Quinn for HC??
They interviewed him during their buy, that means they are allowed a 2nd interview between this week and the SB
Cool so if say Seahawks advance to the SB can Eagles interview Fitterer next week..?
No, because we didnt interview him during the bye
Interesting that AR has been throwing more to Sherman’s side than to Maxwell’s so far. I. Want. Byron.
I’m surprised the flags against Seattle. Usually their defense gets away with quite a bit.
With Earl Thomas on the sideline, why not attack the secondary?
Shorten the game while putting up points.
Good recipe.
Media makes me so damn mad… All year they were blowing the over rated cowboy OL, while in reality the Pakers OL is what has really been impressive. All I hear about is zack Matin, when the rookie center for GB is balling…. dallas had a great run blocking OL, average pass blocking… GB is the more well rounded OL in the NFC this year, NOT DALLAS like the bullshit media seems to think. Please stop getting on your knees whenever you see “the star”
Gb is doing a lot of chickenshit Coaching. All these fg’s on 4th and 1.
Epitaph for McCarthy if GB loses today . . .
“No Guts. No Glory.”
if you go to kill the king, you need to kill the king.
they did not, and eventually they paid the price
Painful to watch Green Bay give points away as though they’re at Lambeau playing the Bears ,. . . and points will be endless
It’s not like Sea is an Offense juggernaut though.
True, but it’s not like GB is a defensive juggernaut either. 28 to nothing, this game is probably over. 16 to nothing, I’d be very worried still as a GB fan.
Average WR core
GE:
Seattle’s found a way to score in the 2nd half.
And if Russell Wilson gets going, he’ll put points up.
Fair enough. That’s a big IF though given the game so far today.
GE:
I think you’re on to something, though.
That must be GB’s plan today.
And so did Wilson just throw another pick.
One big Lynch run or huge Wilson bomb and a defensive TD and it could be tied
GE:
But your point is well taken.
And I think McCarthy’s playing his game based on that premise.
I totally understand his playcalling. Take any points against this defense.
Problem is, most of the time you just need to pass 21 points to win against Seattle, McCarthy have left at least 8 points and Rodgers 3 more.
dallas newspaper predicting “john Randle will be the starting RB of the Cowboys next year” LOL…. Cap hell in cowboy paradise? Ain’t that a bitch…..;)
Wilson was trying to make a play, but I guarantee this flag’s on GB for hitting the QB.
Cilnton-Dix..blehhhhhhh
who wants that guy? no one gets production out of rookies.
he’s just a rookie out there on the field.
He’s not as good as Marcus Smith anyway
Polk doesn’t get more carries bc shady status as a premier back keeps it from happening. He won’t time share as much as we want unless Kelly or Duce requires it. That is my explanation. Duce hasn’t been that hurt for 2 years straight. nd I really think shady chasing the rushing title belt added to this problem. Duce waned that for him. Polk isn’t going to split duties as if we were taking a real outsider’s view on this.
Did not see this coming. Wilson looks like hot garbage today.
Thaos because he os being asked to carry his offense. He cant do it.
I am also bias and cat stand the love RW gets. Overrated due to team success
It’s kind of hard when you have shorter possession WRs that aren’t getting open.
Everyone blames foles when he has to throw to Riley Cooper
Still haven’t forgotten the San Fran game.
Wilson can do it.
And he has done it.
How many times against a good team has he carried the load?
In the regular season, Wilson’s been given eight 4th Q CBs and 10 game-winning drives out of 35 wins.
Not saying Wilson has to carry Seattle every week.
Just that when Seattle’s needed him to step up, he’s done so late in games.
As for beating good teams, Seattle’s reached the Divisional Round, won the SB, and is playing for the NFC title in each of Wilson’s first 3 seasons.
I’d say Wilson’s doing something right.
(And as bad as the Eagles were against Seattle this year, Wilson was the difference in that game.)
Patience.
Against Atlanta in the 2012 Divisional round . . . Seattle, behind Wilson, put up 28 points in the 2nd half — with 21 in the 4th Q.
Wilson put Seattle ahead 28-27 with 34 seconds left.
21 seconds later, Atlanta kicked a game winning FG from 49 yards.
matthews hit is worth it if you cleaned his clock.
Horrible flag. How is the Baker hit on Foles supposedly legal when they flag that??
Clinton Dix… Finally an Alabama DB to be respected
They don’t exactly have a good track record, do they? Almost as bad as USC QB’s.
Blame it on the crab walk bullshit that they coach…not having your DBs backpeddle is doing the NFL prospects a diservice I would assume. Backpeddling is practically a prerequisite to being an NFl DB
Works great for them at the college level. If I wanted to become an NFL DB, I’d be leary about signing with Alabama.
Anyone who wants an NFL career . . .
GO TO LSU
There’s a lot of truth to this statement, even though I’m not an LSU fan. Must burn up that fanbase watching Bama dominate lately.
Les Miles . . .
Good coach. Comes up small vs. Saban more often than not.
Yes sir,,,, cough cough Collins,,,people will fall in love after the combine
Same… I would have a problem with signing there if I was a top DB prospect
Why would db recruits go there?
Nelson eating up Maxwell
Eat your words lol.
Aaron Rodgers felt so bad he threw the ball at him…LOL
Lol. First catch against him. And it was a slant.
Gave up two to Colbb
That was comebacks after AR had 5 seconds in the pocket. But keep trying.
Keep tryimg what? The facts…gave up 3 completions so far, what’s the problem? Don’t cry
Why would I cry. Need to eat some sconces now.
Oh hahahaha now I get it. Fanboy thinks he will be an eagle… Hate to tell you Santa clause ain’t real, but mAxwell won’t be an eagle no matter how many times we click our heals and say “there’s no place like home”
As long as Cary W is not back, I’m fine with that.
Sucks for you bud… You have one more year of service to endure
Doubt it. No way the Eagles will pay him 8mio. And given Cary’s latest remarks I don’t think he will say yes to a pay cut.
Yeah yeah, every time this year you tell me all abouthow much you “doubt it”..few months later reality sets in,and I have to be the bad guy to tell you “I told you so LOL”..I know the drill by now… Tell me all about how you doubt bennie logan can be our NT and we should draft a injured hack out of Notre dame to replace the leading tackler out of NFL nose tackles in his,second year…. Excuse me if I blow my nose with your doubts of me lol
You must be confusing me with someone else. I never doubted your boy Logan.
But you don’t seriously want to pay Cary 8 mil, do you?!
Told you. Maxwell is good.
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
(kidding)
I assume cary would catch it if you throw it at him
The good old Cary W lol. Never gets old your love.
You mean the Philadelphia Eagles best corner who will still be our corner last year? Last time I checked this was an eagle blog pal… When you upgrade that hack bradley, I will be happy to discuss upgrading Cary
Ok let’s fight about which of our corners sucks more. The need for such an argument says everything.
It’s not debateable…facts aren’t debateable, not everything is open to oppinion,
‘The best corner’ in our secondary is not necessarily a compliment. Personally I don’t want anyone on the Eagles who doesn’t give his heart. And Cary obviously doesn’t give a buck about being an Eagle.
Honestly I’d prefer Fletch with a cheaper salary. He can tackle and lacks the stupid penalties.
I don’t think CW is worth his cap hit. If he renegotiates and comes down, I’m okay. But right now, I’m not okay with his salary vs. his output.
Cary’s combination of salary and attitude makes him a worthy target of Eagles fans’ hatred.
Geagle, I still see Boykin as the best CB on our team. Stats back me up too.
Great inside corner… Unfortunately your stats have nothing to do with outsider orner…you might as well change the name of the position if you aren’t going to accept that lining up outside and playing in the slot are two very different things,…
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If Boykin can really be as good outside as he can inside, I’m sure his time will come. No point in over reacting, still early In his career
Evidence doesn’t support your supposition.
Talking about Cary, not Bradley….. Be my guest give corners 55mil cuz they caught a ball a QB threw at them. See if I care….enjoy lol
Would I like it if we signed two new CB’s this year? Yeah. Does our signing guys, even overpaying them, mean they will play well? Of course not. I’m tired of not knowing whether Cary will decide he wants to play this week while complaining about being tired.
Would I like? Sure, why wouldn’t I like an Upgrade at any position? UPGRADE means better than what you have… Sign me the hell up. Unfortunately it’s not my call, so what I would like, and what I expect to happen, are two very different conversations..
You told someone one of the members of the legion of boom is good? Aren’t you a regular Nostradamus lol
Bedtime, kiddo.
Paul Richardson injury is crucial in this game. Offensive issues are related to craptastic WR play.
If I’m a Green Bay fan, I’ve already put 3 holes in my basement wall.
This game should be a BLOW OUT
Big lead this early isn’t as important. You see Lynch running.
But this game is just not going to be won in the air. Going to have to run the Mora-Vick offense like they do sometimes.
Re watched the last Giants game…didnt realize how refreshing it was to see a corner turn his head and dry to make plays on the ball, gave up a couple completions but handled himself well….with how the year played out, shame we didn’t get a 3-4 game look at Jaylen Watkins at the end of the season….. Was encouraged with how he was competing at corner
” refreshing it was to see a corner turn his head and dry to make plays on the ball” — interesting he’s not doing what they are presumably being taught by the DB coaches. Maybe thats why?
Probably why he didn’t get a shot at playing until the season was over.
Well, I think we should all be off of the ‘Wilson is a great QB’ train. Horrible start to the game.
Could you imagine how we’d treat Foles if he played like this in a playoff game?
RW’s supporting cast has always made him look good. Dominat defense tke pressureoff of the offense. Even on offense they are a run first team. He is nevr ahigh volume thrower. When his defense is dominant it puts pressure on the offense and tkes away the running game. rw isnt good enough as a passer to carry his team.
Same exact thought ran through my head. There are people on this board who want to blame our loss to N.O. on Foles. If Foles played this way, even in a garbage game we came back and won easily, he’d be crucified.
, I say this all the time..
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Lol our media is starting to complain that Embiid our 20yr old 7footer with a broke foot is gaining weight 9 months away from him playing any type of sixer basketball..lol Hee haw Hee haw
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Media turns is into a city of donkeys. Whores to instant gratification, prisoners of themoment as if the young player they see struggle with their own two eyes is doomed to never improve no ,after how hard he works…smh
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We are like two years away from even seeing FOles best ball, yet these morons have decided he isn’t good enough lol
I read that article. Worthless if you ask me. The kid is 20 and hasn’t played meaningful ball since college. Now you’re crapping on him because he doesn’t seem perfect.
I think it’s because he doesn’t interview with the media, so they come up with these absurd stories to generate buzz and try to force him to speak.
#DBenvy. #QBnotsomuch
Russell Wilson: 1/8 for 14 yards and 3 interceptions.
Also known as a typical Russell Wilson stat line in a Seattle victory. Biggest fraud star QB in the league right now.
Can’t wait to see how Peter king whitewashes it.
I thought i wasalone. I cat stand the hype he gets
3 interceptions, a couple as a result of facepalm-worthy throws into coverage.
He has not been impressive in this game.
He has not been impressive in this game.”
In the running for understatement of the year award.
It will be fun to see all the same people who hype Wilson turn on him in the next couple years for not being a good enough pocket passer and relying on the run too much.
can’t take away a super bowl.
Yeah, you can’t take that away from Seattle’s defense you’re right.
Can’t take it away but can point out that he won it under historically favorable circumstances for a quarterback. He’s better than Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer but I’m not sure he’s any better than Eli Manning. Definitely overrated.
personally i don’t think that’s true — we’ll see second half what happens.
Wilson actually reminds me a lot of McNabb early in his career. I mean that as a complement.
He rallyreminds me of Big Ben. Inherited a dominant defense and was asked not to lose games. They both had teh athletic ability to create some plays, but were never asked to carry even the offense. Both relied on good power running games. I think 5 years from now RW will develope into a guy that can carry the offense much like Ben is doing now. The idea that he is an elite QB right now is outrageous. I think he is on the same level as Foles or Tannehil, but just in a much better situation.
True.
By the way, I like Wilson a lot. I think he is still improving and is already and very good qb and will be a great qb. But the defense and running game is what makes Seattle so good and Wilson gets more credit than he deserves. If that defense and running game get worse and more falls on Wilson, and Seattle stops winning in the playoffs, I think Wilson will be an easy target.
6 turnovers combined by the NFC’s best two teams.
And there’s still 32 minutes left.
Incredible.
Foles and Sanchez laugh at that low of a number.
Love how Seattle’s sideline flipped out on that call, despite it being super obvious.
Maxwell got away with a really flagrant facemask on Nelson earlier in the game too.
Amazingly the Seahawks’ defense doesn’t look so great when they’re going up against an actual quarterback.
Buyer beware re: Byron Maxwell. I have a feeling he won’t be nearly as good with his next team.
Agree on Maxwell. I don’t want the Eagles breaking the bank on him.
Byron Maxwell is an automatic first down waiting to happen.
I said that on an earlier thread. Someone mentioned that Seattle’s defense hasn’t given up more then 16 or 17 points in their last 7-8 games. I made the counter-argument that I thought that had more to do with QB play than the defense.
Seattle’s defense is very good, but I feel that a good QB (more than competent) can put up more points on this defense.
What the hell is Seattle trying to accomplish here? They’re on their own 20 with 23 seconds to go and Wilson has already thrown 3 picks.
ol is getting killed. so much pressure w a 3 man rush.
first half has been so lopsided but it’s a 2 score game.
Great to have a dominant D when your QB craps the bed.
The real issue is that there is no passing game what-so-ever.
In the playoffs, the refs lets the teams play. The defenses don’t make mistakes.
Seattle has been playing with fire in terms of just how weak the WR corps is, and it’s burning them bad now.
I’m sure Seattle’s D would disagree that the refs are letting them play.
think you can see just how good golden tate was and they let him walk
Don’t forget percy harvin too – that’s a lot of production gone from that position.
Harvin was addition by subtraction. Tate, I’m pretty sure they miss, even if he did bone RW’s wife.
If that’s the case, he had to go. I didn’t know that was the reason he had to go.
If so, what a jackass.
That’s the rumor. If it’s true, not surprised he’s gone either.
yeah that’s the story — but tate’s g/f and wilson’s ex were close. hard to think that would have been true if tate fucked wilson’s ex. unless it was…
Russell Wilson lives and dies by seat of your pants type plays. Today he is just dying. If GB didn’t shoot themselves in the foot a couple times this would already be a blowout.
Seattle’s record this year against good QBs (for lack of a better term):
Beat Rodgers
Lost to Rivers
Beat Peyton Manning in OT
Lost to Romo
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Seahawks faced those QBs in their first 5 games — went 2-2.
The rest of the year was guys like:
Sanchez (win)
Austin Davis (loss)
Derrick Carr (win)
Cam Newton (win)
EManning (win)
Alex Smith (loss)
Kaepernick (2 wins)
Drew Stanton (win)
Ryan Lindley (win)
Saun Hill (win)
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Not a murderer’s row after Wk 5.
Not even a pick-pocket’s row after Wk 5.
Damn n i thought the Eagles had it easy
There’s only a few good QBs in the NFL.
I’m guessing that even teams like Tampa, Oakland, and Jax face opposing QBs like that.
They crushed Manning in the Super Bowl last year. Beat Rodgers and Brees on their way to Kaepernick, which they also made look pretty bad.
Yes. Last year.
I’m just talking about this year.
And I think most teams face this kind of schedule.
Not even a hedge row after Wk 5.
SB wins
2
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2
Weird though
Gotta credit GB’s defense and ding Seattle’s OL. It all stops with the QB, and Wilson had a horrible half, but in his defense, he got no help at all from his offensive teammates.
GB needs to pray that Seattle’s offense doesn’t wake up in the second half. This game should be completely out of reach. Credit both Seattle’s D and GB being too conservative.
I hope the Seahawks give Wilson a megadeal this offseason, that would be the perfect scenario for the Eagles and all NFC teams. Overpay for Wilson then start hemorrhaging talent on defense because you can’t afford to pay them.
seattle has paid the defensive players that make that scheme work. who is jeremy lane?
it’ll be interesting to see what the d looks like no earl thomas.
Man, you know why these guys are on Wilson, let them be.
Echoes of Vick vs the Eagles ’02 and especially ’04.
Their slot corner, if the broadcast is to be believed.
I had to look it up and you’re mostly right, sans Bobby Wagner. I’ll still take huge resources poured into Wilson’s contract, that’s all money that could be spent somewhere else. Like on a WR.
wilson’s numbers are pretty good even with current talent. but they do need to do something better in the draft.
Everyone is locked up except for Bobby Wagner
What makes the scheme work is not only the headliners like Sherman, Thomas, and Wagner but also quality depth. The Seahawks are not going to be able to afford veteran role players like Bennett, Avril, and Schofield after they pay Wilson so their defense is almost certain to deteriorate even if the stars stay healthy and productive.
they let a bunch of people go last year — defense worse but team obviously headed back to SB, which is crazy to go (and maybe win) back to back when we haven’t sniffed anything in 10 years, but id like to see what type of deal wilson takes. Does he take the $20, or does he take $13 and keep the team together.
If the NFLPA lets him take a contract that’s 35% under market value, DeMaurice Smith will be out of a job. They are not going to be able to keep the team together, because no team ever is (e.g. these Patriots have very few holdovers from their previous Super Bowl team).
Shah 8 wrote:
“Seattle has been playing with fire in terms of just how weak the WR corps is, and it’s burning them bad now.”
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Remind anyone of another team?
new england?
Eagles.
Circa 2000-2003
The Johnson/Trash/Pinkston era.
New England’s a great answer, though.
Brady and Belichick keep winning even with weak WR corps.
Having Gronk helps a lot.
And Brady.
His stats have taken a nose dive though without the great WR core they had last decade.
They did not have Gronk during those SB runs in the early aughts though. Deion Branch was the best WR they had then and I’m not sure he ever hit 1000 yards in a season.
*cough* Spygate.
Having a great pass-catching TE is super.
The Eagles have one, some argue.
He plays 47% of the time.
But Their pass catching tight end also run blocks like a lineman
Ooh . . . . don’t give me Todd Pinkston flashbacks. That’s just cruel.
Seattle doesn’t have anyone that can win contested catches and their WRs playing now are small. The same with us, which I hope will change soon with the addition of Ertz to the starting lineup.
Seattle’s WR’s need to win the one on ones. If they can’t, this game is over.
It’s over then since they’re not getting open.
Re: Sam Shields INT
Here’s what a former NFL DB tweeted:
“Drive to the hip of WR, use the sideline, find the ball. Good technique from Shields.”
So, this is what good safety play looks like. Must be nice.
I’m going to preface this by saying, I’m sorry.
Damn Earl Thomas would have looked good in an Eagles uniform.
**ducks**
Why don’t we include their entire defense?
We had a shot at Earl Thomas and passed.
We had a shot on at least half of their secondary.
So did the majority of the league. Thomas is the only guy that everyone knew was going to be really good. Credit both Seattle’s FO for finding the others and the coaching staff for developing them.
When we traded up for BG, everyone thought we were going after Earl Thomas.
Cause Thomas is the only guy we absolutely should have had.
Wonder if Seattle is gonna roll the dice more this half, looks like they blitzed that last play.
Beast mode might be heating up.
Aikman amusing me with his cluelessness. “Seattle hasn’t tested GB with Wilson on the R/O.” Dude, that’s based on how the defense chooses to play, not the QB.
Wait… why can’t they add that personal foul onto the end of the play? That makes no sense.
I was wondering the same thing.
That basically means an OL can take a free shot on plays like that whenever they want. Bizarre rule.
Now that was the single worst decision I’ve ever seen Wilson make. You can’t give up that many yards. Also, HORRIBLE play by Okung.
There.is.no.point.in.the.passing.game.
Jesus, but Wilson does have to run. He really does.
You mean aside from what just happened?
How many seconds?
As many as Aaron Rodgers had in the first half?
Wow is that an OLB that we just saw?
Possible sleeper candidate for GM. Jim Popp, Montreal Allouette’s GM. He was a candidate for the Colts when Grigson got the job and is highly regarded. While he has total control with Montreal, he might be willing to take a lesser job to establish himself in the NFL. I could see that being an outside-the-box Kelly hire. He signed an extension this past summer with Montreal but it’s possible he has an out-clause for an NFL job. Just throwing it out there. I haven’t seen anything suggesting the Eagles are considering him.
like trestman?
Trestman was previously a good coordinator in the NFL. I really don’t know what Trestman’s deal. He sort of self-banished himself to the CFL. I don’t know if that was that he really wanted to be a head coach somewhere or if NFL teams refused to hire him for some reason. Popp’s background as an executive is completely in the CFL. He also was previously a coach and I could see Kelly viewing him as a kindred spirit.
So we’re rooting for the Colts later right?
Definitely!
If Seattle wins I want to see NE play them. If GB wins I want to see the Colts win. I almost need a flow chart for what I want to see happen.
Colts vs GB superbowl is the most I can hope for.
Wow. Even when his receiver is wide open, that throw was tremendously inaccurate with no pressure on him.
Dude, too harsh. Had to throw over the defense and it was 30 yards down the field. Wasn’t a great throw, but Rodger’s has missed easier ones today.
Didn’t have to throw over anyone. The short zone defenders were 10 yards away. Putting it 4 yards over his receivers head did nothing but get his receiver needlessly killed after the catch.
Happens a lot. His guys make very acrobatic catches a lot.
Heh, that’s sort of what has to happen.
Ahhh lol. Seattle you old sly dogs.
Given the sloppy O performance so far I would go for 2 right here.
Never mind. Lol.
I love the Fake FG.
lots of balls
Fortune favors the bold. GB had the ball twice inside the 5. One on the 1/2 yard line and the other at the 3 I think. Took a FG both times. If GB loses by a couple points, I think he’ll have regrets about not going for it in the 1st.
Or maybe they would have been stuffed and gotten 0 points. Who knows man, this is not a regular defense they’re facing.
We don’t, but at the 1/2 yard line? You gotta take that chance. Worse situation is that they get the ball on their own 1/2 yard line.
And at that point, Seattle’s offense hadn’t shown any sign that they could move the ball 10yards, let alone, 99.
Unless it’s a situation where a field goal is just as good as a TD I think you should pretty much always go for it on fourth down from inside the 1. Chances are you’re going to get it back in decent field position at the very least.
Late in the game when you’re trailing by 3 or less, kick the field goal. Any other time, I agree, go for it.
Ha Ha is looking pretty good now after all. So how is the other Bama S, called Collins?! Saw him being mocked to the Eagles at #20.
From what I’ve read the chances of Collins falling that far are slim and none. Would be fine with the pick if he did though.
Ok. Thanks.
Honestly haven’t watched any tape on him. It’s hard to evaluate a safety with what the public has since safeties are almost always off screen.
From what I’ve read, he’s more of a box safety. Can’t see the Eagles drafting a box safety given that they’ve stressed wanting mirrored safeties.
Wheels coming off the wagon for GB.
Wow that could be big, Rodgers other leg hurt now.
You can hear the change of momentum all the way to Queens.
Yeah man, converting from 2nd and 30 then the fake FG, bold shit is happening out there.
I think Lacy might have been rolling on that one… could be worth a look for the turnover.
Still baffled they didn’t go for two earlier. Might come back to haunt Sea.
With that much time left, I think they made right decision. If you don’t convert, you’re down 10 and need a TD and FG to tie versus TD and FG to win.
But now they need three scores anyway. Or two TDs.
If Kam didn’t bring down Lacy then it might have been a TD.
Dude came in shot out of a cannon. Love Chancellor, would love to see him on the Eagles.
Woooow huge play. FG range just about and Sherman hurt.
Man… touchdown here and this is gonna be a big mountain for Seattle to climb, as much they’ve struggled on offense.
Next series has to be a TD drive. Mebbe field goal, but Seattle has to seriously try for a td.
Haha was hoping to see Kam try and leap the line like he did last week again.
First time was amazing. That they let him do it multiple times? Priceless.
Yeah, I love how he changed his angle the second time too to be more in the way.
Regardless of how this ends I am shocked by how it played out. I had this pegged as a blowout for Seattle.
GB’s secondary has played extremely well and that’s allowed their front seven to control the running game. The second has been a surprise as GB’s run D hasn’t been that good all season.
Seattle doesn’t really score enough to blow yeams out
I dunno man, they blew the doors off of us.
Not really. They beat us by 10 and we got nothing going on offense really that whole game. Sanchize left a lot of plays on the field.
Did he ever. Chip schemes wide Recivers open left and right against seattle. It felt like sanchez was purposely throwing at the worst option on every play lol
What is the fascination with an outclassed passing game?
Hmmm? What do you mean?
Bad down and distance, constantly, requiring heroics. Mostly because most plays simply aren’t there, because the WRs are shit. Not only that, the tackles are completely overmatched, and anytime Wilson is holding the ball at the top of the drop, the DE’s are tee’ing off. Wilson pretty much *has* to do one read-run or QB draw quite a bit more often than he has.
.@Lions just announced WR @ShowtimeTate is replacing @Eagles WR @jmac_18 in Pro Bowl. Maclin out for personal reasons. @NFLonFOX
Personal as in “You think I’m stupid enough to go out and possibly wreck my knee in some stupid exhibition when I’m about to get PAID? Hell no.”
Haha, yeah Maclin’s set himself up perfectly. No way in hell he is going to let the pro bowl ruin that.
Stupid as in “You think I’m going to arizona? Call me when the probowl is in Hawaii again”
Lynch is a goddamned superhero.
Cartoon character imho. Either way, has to be seen to be believed.
GB’s run D has gone to hell.
My GB prediction looks to be coming trye , Colts game I hope they win but I’m skeptical. At least now I can be in full F the Pats mode
Holy shit Wilson threw it right to him. Dix is going to be kicking himself if Seattle scores on this drive.
Should be 5 INTs throw today
Haha with a good Malcolm Jenkins impersonation there.
Yeah, Malcom’s really turned into Mr Butterfingers the second half of the season.
Haha, anyone else notice that GB was in full fake punt prevent mode there? Everyone just kind of spread out in a shell.
I think SEA should go for it here. 3, 4 more minutes on the clock, no. 7 mintues, down 12? Go for it.
Forget it, they punted.
Everyone who’s ready to give up on Nick Foles and thinks the Eagles should mortgage their next three drafts to get Mariota should watch the tape of this game. Russell Wilson looks like crap. Turns out playing quarterback when your receivers aren’t helping out and your offensive line is getting run over on every dropback is hard.
I think Russell is overrated plus the talent he has is far less than. Foles
Luck would have 3 Super Bowl rings in two years already if he had Lynch and the seattle defense LOL
I agree, Russ isn’t that great
I love Mariota in our offense so I wouldn’t mind if we traded up to get him. No, I don’t want to give up three drafts to do it. I also haven’t given up on Foles, but I think his supporters underplay his limits, particularly in this offense. I do agree that this game points out that great D’s make even great QB’s look average or worse. Wilson’s been horrible, but Rodgers has only managed to put 19pts on the board despite being handed great field position early in this game.
Seriously, only way I see us managing to get Mariota is if a bunch of teams downgrade him for being a spread/system QB. If he slips out of the top 10 somehow, we’d be insane not to try and trade up for him. If he goes top 3 as expected, we have no prayer.
What did you think our QB was the only young QB to have ups and downs? Eagles fans don’t watch enough Colt games, they would rip andrew Luck a new one for all the INT he throws in first half of games…. Somewhere our fanbase got the idea that when you have a good young QB it’s all smooth sailing, 350 yards, 3TDs no turnovers, not sure what golden age of Eagles football I missed that gave us this crazy idea,
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But clearly, we don’t know what a promising young QB who’s best ball is still ahead of him looks like
Agree
In 3 Years:
Mariota > Wilson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foles
Green Bay has been using that odd pistol formation with lots of people in the backfield lots this game… wonder what they’re trying to accomplish using that formation.
Maclin is better than any receiver Seattle has but other than that I don’t agree. I’d rather have Doug Baldwin than Riley Cooper, and Lynch vs. McCoy is probably a wash. Ditto the Seattle TEs vs. Celek and Ertz.
I think Ertz is better than Wilson but we just don’t use him enough lol.
Why did Burnett fall down? There’s still 5 minutes left and its a 2 possession game. O_o.
Thought the same damn thing. Keep going MF’er
Seriously, game is far from over, why the hell are you falling down like you just clinched it lol.
The great Russel Wilson ladies and gentleman
Hey in fairness that one wasn’t his fault.
I don’t know what a 4 INT game looks like with FOles…
Like Chip calling for a run on 3rd and 15, I imagine.
**woof**
Great throw by Wilson, horrible job by his receiver. That should be ballgame.
Since he threw one right to Clinton-Dix and it was dropped on the last possession I think it’s karma.
Not to hate on Wilson too much, but Seattle would be idiots to make him the highest paid QB in the league.
Still 5 minutes.
To all you kids watching, that drop / deflection by Jermaine Kearse is why you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS get your hands around if you can.
He attempted to catch that ball with his arms and bring into his body. Makes no sense. Use your hands.
JMatt has this problem as well.
Lord help us if there are kids reading these comments…
If you can’t get the ball, be the ball?
Buddhist football.
Green Bay being a little too conservative on that drive for my taste.
Interesting, they’re running the ball in this situation.
Russel Wilson on throwing 4 picks:
“They were playing a new technique, they were getting their heads around on throws. Playing the ball really threw me off my game”
Haha Clintondix on what “Hahah actually stands for “Im laughing at secondaries like the Eagles who didn’t think the should move up to get me, except Howie he wanted to draft me”
…because I was surprsing bored with the last few minutes of this game
Kearse got away with some OPI there.
Lynch is the only Seahawk who’s earning his paycheck today.
There’s one.
Correction, he’s out. But still, this is why playing conservative is rarely a good idea.
Hahahaaha see Burnett this is why you don’t fall the fuck down when the game isn’t over.
Hes gonna be in the new buffalo wild wings commercial
If GB loses today, Mike McCarthy coaching like he is scared to death is the #1 culprit
SEA has 1 timeout right. If I’m GB, I put the game in Rodgers’ hands and say get me 1 first down. After that, maybe run the ball.
Green Bay wins in spite of McCarthy, not because of him.
Sounds about right…
He’s not in but seriously… Burnett falling down with wide open field in front of him will make him a huge goat.
If the TD had been scored, they had the option of trying to let the defense get the ball back to the offense.
Marshawn Lynch deserves some medals from the Seahawks. How many plays has he done to keep them in the playoffs now?
They will reward him by letting him play for someone else next year LOL
Maybe not a TD?
It’s 100% not a TD, just depends where they’re going to spot it.
Thought he stayed in there
Then it might be time for a new TV in HD. 😉
If he wasn’t wearing the gold cleats he would have been inbounds.
Superb job by the packers D letting a running back beat them deep late in the game by the way.
Also, why is Seattle running the ball here lol.
Out at the 9. They need to pass to preserve time on the clock.
Are you watching on a stream or something? You are way behind I think.
Carroll running the ball down two TDs with under 3 minutes to go. Shows how little faith he has in Wilson right now.
But Wilson scored right? So how does he not trust him?
I think he meant throwing the ball.
Scored on a running play. Carroll didn’t let him throw the ball.
I’ve seen a lot of drops and tips, not that Wilson played well.
Maybe he doesnt trust the WRs to catch the ball
2:00 left SEAHAKS have it lol
I am going to bang the Morgan Burnett is such a dope drum endlessly if Seattle somehow wins this.
2:13 left and Seattle has 1 TO and the 2 minute warning. So if GB runs the ball 3 straight and don’t get a 1st down, they’ll have about 1:10 left on the clock. I let Rodgers get a 1st down. Don’t play scared.
Never suspect a bootleg 🙂
You people trying to turn Russell Wilson struggling with no WRs and horrible offensive line play into a referendum on Nick Foles are blowing my mind.
At no point this year have the Eagles been worse at WR or OL than Seattle today.
Not much of an equivalence there I don’t think.
Our OL at points early in the season was worse than Seattle’s line is now.
I disagree. Seattle has been terrible today. Maybe the game when Kelce got hurt?
You missed him ripping his groin? He was out for about a third of the season.
No I know, but I meant the specific game he got hurt we we had to scramble along the line.
I want the Eagles to play terrible and still have a shot at the SB. Either way both teams left plays on the field
At no point in the season with Foles did McCoy play as well as Lynch. At no point did the Eagles’s D constantly keep the team in the game despite the QBs determination to do nothing positive with the ball.
And yes, when Molk was in, the Eagles’ OL was worse than what SEA’s is today. Gardner would be worse than any OL on SEA today.
I have no stake in the argument but you do remember the SF game, yes?
On the other hand, at no point this year did Foles play as badly as Wilson has today.
San Francisco, I think, was this bad.
Well mksp is wrong. Our OL in that SF game was waaaay worse than what Wilson is dealing with today
Close. But that was a game in which the receivers and OL were just as bad as Seattle’s has been today. And Foles didn’t make as many terrible throws as Wilson has today.
HAHA LOL!!! MORGAN BURNETT IS A DOPE!!!
Think Bostick has to go ahead of him as Goat, dropping a ball that hit him in the face that would’ve basically sealed it.
OHMYGOD
McCarthy might be fired if they manage to lose this game. Unbelievable.
Wow
How the hell do you let them recover an onsides kick here? You have to be playing for that.
Hey Morgan Burnett, you’re getting a lot of stinky cheese after this game if you lose.
I’ll tell you who’s not going to the super bowl is Brandon Bostick. They’ll probably just dump his corpse in the Bay even if they win. And Morgan Burnett. Morgan Burnett is not going to the super bowl. Because they’re gonna lose.
On the replay it’s obvious that it wasn’t even Bostick’s to catch, Jordy Nelson is right behind him ready for it, arms open.
It’d be funny if this results in Wilson throwing his 5th pick.
Bet you anything they keep doing the option until they don’t have anymore time and they have to throw.
How many QBs can run that option?
4 or 5?
More than can throw a fifteen yard out.
Even though I’m pulling for a GB win, I think the Wilson haters heads would explode if he managed to win this game. That would be funnier.
Inside 2 minutes left.
Seattle is in a position to win.
Does Wilson get any credit whatever?
Or no?
If it were you what would you give him credit for?
Not on this board for some reason.
I can’t wait until Nick Foles is traded so all this nonsense can end.
Why the Foles hatred?
Not hatred. Just tired of people talking about him during a game like this for some reason.
Russell is having a Folesian performance to me.
And had a worse than Folesian performance against the saints in the postseason last year. It’s all about confirmation bias – “He runs the football? He MUST be a great QB!!!1!11”
I can only speak for myself, but I do it because of how fans overract to everything foles does, but seem to ignore the flaws of other QBs. I think it is the fact that everyone gets to watch Tom Brady and Manning every week and have unreal expectations for a 3rd year QB. Somehow 11 games lst year of near perfect football werent enoug. Know what we have in foles, but 7 games this year is enough to know this is his ceiling.
I pesonally can wait for somene else to draft mariota so we can end all this
It’s not about unrealistic expectations. Its about making subjective evaluations.
For example:
Teddy Bridgewater made throws in his 1st year that Nick Foles hasn’t made in his entire career.
I think people sugarcoat how awful Nick was this year. The eye test and statistics prove it out.
Preach it… I think I feel the Holy Spirit… Hallejuja praise sweet baby, Infant Jesus in his tuxedo T shirt that says I’m formal, but I’m also here to party,….
Don’t get the anti-Foles crowd started.
Wasn’t really trying.
GB choking harder than Peyton.
Let’s see what happens here. He made a few plays on the last drive but Lynch was the engine.
I give him credit for handing the ball to Lynch and himcarrying the team on his back. Also GB has made bad decision after bad decision.
Grea job russel wilson. Hand the ball to lynch again. hOFer right there
ZONE READ
You know what’s better than a quarterback who can run the zone read? A quarterback who doesn’t make horrible throws into coverage and turn the ball over four times.
Should be 5 turnovers if Clinton Dix didn’t go full retard
Yeah I mean, I’d take either one.
FIRE MCCARTHY . . . NOW.
Pretty much.
No, now he run out the clock and steal defeat from the grasp of victory
HAHA I love this. MORGAN BURNETT YOU’RE A DOPE!!!
My god, Lynch is impressive. Any talk of Shady even being in his tier is ridiculous.
I said last year Marshawn was better than shady and PEterson because BEASTMODE is the only one who does it in the playoffs and everyone jumped down my throat… Sigh
MARSHAWN LYNCH FUELING THE SEAHAWKS PLAYOFF HOPES ONCE AGAIN.
Wow. Green Bay choke job for the ages.
Worst stream cutout timing ever. I missed the TD.
Pretty easy run by beast mode standards. He was almost untouched.
Zone read is pretty cool.
Yes, we get it. Wilson is the cause of everything good, and the lack of WR is the cause of everything bad. HE’S GOD COME TO EARTH!!!
You are arguing with a known Donkey. There is a reason he can’t pay me to read a post with his name on it
Just pointing out that the play design matters and so do the players executing it.
loooooooooooool. Green Bay should just all retire.
That was an INT waiting to happen, and they got 2pts out of it.
Wilson is the best QB on earth. Lol
hahahahahahahahahahaha
OMG…
GB’s run D was so good the 1st half. What the hell happened? Simple flip of switch to BEAST MODE?
Gassed maybe?
Full tilt @ the worst stadium to play at
Every ounce of arm strength matters on that two point conversion.
Please. That was a ridiculous prayer of a lollipop and Clinton-Dix failed to make a basic play on it. I give Wilson credit for keeping the play alive but that was anything but a great throw.
I am going to start a blog dedicated to how stupid it was for Morgan Burnett to fall down after that interception. A BLOG I TELL YOU! Bostick will get all the press but what Burnett did was infinitely stupider.
On that on-side kick . . .
Bostick’s job was to PROTECT Jordy Nelson so Nelson could make the play.
That’s why the coach was screaming at him on the SL
Scared to death McCarthy, soft as a babies ass Rodgers find themselves of their heals to a tough team with heart and a coach with some balls. Rodgers is the ultimate front runner, he is catching up to PEyton Manning. I Knew he was soft when he played an entire NFL game without looking at the right side of the field… Anyone with a “what would mIke Jordan do” bracelet would NEVER conceded THAT much to an opponent….
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SOFT Front Runner… Tell me all about your sore hammy
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Defense, and run game bails out struggling young QB… Nothing knew, he became a “GREAT” QB on the back of Lynch and the defense anyway, why should today be any different?
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McCarthy coached scared, pete Carrol coached with heart…… This game is ending the way it should end!
I don’t see how Rodgers gets the blame here. Unless you want him to overrule some of his coach’s stupid calls.
Not here… In general. I Genuinly believe he will never win a Super Bowl again. Peyton manning syndrom. Regular season studs, 1 and done Super Bowl winners
That’s ridiculous. Rodgers is a great player. Best quarterback in football by a fair margin.
So is PEyton Manning, what’s your point?
So is Drew Brees…. Great QBs, but 1 and done in terms of Super Bowl…
Manning has a long record of coming up small in the playoffs. Rodgers does not. Don’t see the comparison you’re making at all.
Wilson deserves as much credit for that horrible throw as Eli Manning does for the lollipop against NE to win the Superbowl. Horrible throws. Horrible decisions. Great results. Unfreakingbelievable.
What a game!!
Hey, look, I guess Russell Wilson will get his Russell Wilson victory statline after all, because they’re going to win lol.
This may go OT.
Holy shit, Rodgers is clutch as fuck.
Put the dagger in the heart Rodgers! Shatter their dreams!!!
Already in FG range. Not easy FG range though.
Pass rush sucks for Seattle.
Rodgers senses pressure and gets out of the pocket better than any quarterback in football. That’s got a lot to do with it.
Put in Morgan Burnett at receiver! Give him a chance to redeem himself!
It’d be conservative but best call may be a run to shorten FG distance.
Or short pass. 47 yarder still not a gimme.
Dude, where are you streaming from lol.
Not streaming. Get too many viruses that way. Just following the game feed at NFL.com and twitter.
Are you overseas?
No, my work office is 3 doors down from my apartment so I’m not going to pay for the internet. I stream Eagles games and have other games at times but I’d rather not risk it. I can just go watch the game on TV and stop typing on the computer if I wish.
Dude, I’m watching it on an $11 antenna I got from Target. It’s good for the local stations and the quality is just as good. If you have an HDTV, I’d recommend it.
I didn’t want to pay for Verizon to put a jack in the one room, so we have an XBox and antenna for our tv needs in that room.
I have a TV and can watch the game in my apartment. I don’t have internet access in my apartment.
Ahhh got it.
Looks like OT..
FG attempt is the right call here, but McCarthy has to be kicking himself.
Fake FG GB! Turnabout is fair play!
Oh my god this game is bananas.
What a game!
The coaching on Green Bay has been awful.
Clutch kickers has kept this game competitive despite QB throwing wounded ducks lol
Its been a crazy game, OT should be good!
If that idiot Dix makes a play on that 2 point smh
He’s played so well for most of the game, but that was Nate Allenesque.
Overtime!
MORGAN BURNETT, THANK WHATEVER DEITY YOU PRAY TO THAT THIS MIGHT STILL END IN VICTORY FOR YOU!!!
If seattle gets the ball, they are going to gut check, BEASTMODE that ball all the way down GBs throat….
Are the GB fans gonna key cars if they lose like FSU did
Probably not, there’s only like 25 people in the whole town. They might have to borrow one of those cars.
Can Peirrera read or what?
Peirrera is fantastic in the booth and on camera. He’d probably make a great color guy if he had a little more exciting voice.
he’s a smart guy.
it’s not his fault CBS made him say the rules out loud.
just thought the exercise was kind of dumb.
Peirrera is on FOX. He’s good. Mike Carey on CBS is clueless.
GR:
In another era, CBS did NFC games.
OOP!
I don’t mind when they mention on air what he thinks but man when he states the rules aloud it is brutally boring, run of a beer kinda moment
This game is a prime example of why chip is so smart to care as much about special teams as he does. special teams has practically kept seattle in the NFC championship
I still don’t know the overtime rules… Fuck it, I’ll learn when it bites the Eagles in the ass
Your reading comprehension continues to impress.
Such an asset.
Mcnabb liked learning the rules this way too!
Yes!!!
Run it down the field.
Beast mode time,..,Frotto aka Russel Wilson might not attempt a single pass lol
I expect Rodgers/Wilson to both play like champions here in the final minutes when it matters
Like that huh?
I’m not surprised since Shah already dropped Foles
I’ll say I think Foles is the SAME way. Leave the field with the lead. Last qtr best QTR! Keep fighting
I’m happy Wilson made that throw when ppl on here are saying Carrol doesnt trust him lol ppl r so reactionary
And I almost went to run an errand when there was still 5:00 left
5:00? That’s about when Morgan Burnett fell down instead of running the interception back!
Lol I almost Morgan Burnetted damn
It’s overtime, baldwin, no need to be a hero.
You know what? If Green Bay loses this I bet you anything not one highlights show on any channel ever will point out Burnett taking a knee on that interception. And that makes me sad. It’s the dumb decisions like that that I think are really interesting.
GB doing a great job on R/O play action passes. Sitting there waiting for Wilson almost every time.
TD,
Im not shocked! But WOW!
Wilson has had a terrible game. He’s making plays now when it matters.
That was a nice throw.
RIP Morgan Burnett
They might cut a safety,
Eagles have already shown signs of interest.
O M F G
Hahaha.
Love QBs who can make plays.
Damn, hate OT rules that don’t give other team a chance. All depends on coin flip.
Now I’m sad. Because Morgan Burnett will never get the credit he deserves for helping to make this happen.
You could say he was Seattle’s 12th Man. or 13th. How many are they up to now?
Well…who’s overrated now? GB or Wilson?
Neither. Just a sloppy, awesome game between two great teams and two great players.
Wow. Heartbreaker for Green Bay, but with the number of dumb plays they made they deserved to lose.
Seattle’s the Greatest Team EVER!!!
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And Mike McCarthy’s DEAD when he get’s home
This game was amazing.
So…Foles luvas…
Wanna talk smack?
Remember, Luck had that sort of game against Kansas City! Betcha you never held his bad stretch against him…
Wait Foles was playing as GB def?
The 4th Q on should shut up the Foles > Wilson crowd.
It won’t. But it should.
I don’t think anyone said that Foles > Wilson. Just that play should be viewed in context, not by stats.
This.
But don’t count on knuckleheads to understand nuance.
Quite a few people have said Foles > Wilson. A bunch of people were on the Wilson’s garbage train earlier this game.
Foles is better than he gets credit for by many of our fans, but Wilson’s way better than the haters here think as well. Both are really good young QB’s, but Wilson’s clearly the more talented.
What context?
Russell Wilson made plays to win his 2nd straight NFC Championship game despite poor WR play and poor OL play against a great team.
And people are using that same “context” to excuse Nick Foles from having a terrible year.
Whatever. People can believe what they want to believe. It’s just football.
Foles was 6-2 this year, the same winning percentage as Seattle. He didn’t have the chance to show what he could do in the playoffs because of injury. Wilson showed he’s capable of great plays but also egregious mistakes. Foles wasn’t given the same opportunity.
Do you think Foles would have been 6-2 without the Eagles being on a record pace for Special Teams and Defense TD returns at that point in the year?
Serious question. I don’t.
I saw a QB that repeatedly missed wide open WRs and couldn’t stand tall in the pocket.
We agree.
Wait, you weren’t talking about Wilson today, were you?
Yeah of course. And of course Wilson benefits from a strong D.
But Nick can’t make the plays that RW can. Comparing the two is ludicrous.
And Wilson hasn’t had pressure to consistently execute an offense and score points. He’s essentially Cunningham under Buddy. Make 2 or 3 plays a game, and that’s enough. The D and Beastmode will take care of the rest.
Maybe he can execute consistently from the pocket and put up 300 yds/game. He just hasn’t done it yet. And pretending that he has is ludicrous.
Tannehille
can make the plays RW can but in the 4th QTR he folds
Physically Foles isn’t RW or Luck but I just wanna win. We don’t get extra points for style.
Would the SeaHaks have won without that S/T TD? Are those worth less points?
As a former players its the same answer” Give me the guy thats gonna give us a shot to win EVERY game”
Foles,Wilson,Luck have ALL done that, its not up for debate.
And he played behind swiss cheese, guys that were only on the team for a week or two
Foles is gonna be the guy no matter what next year even if somebody is drafted. People need to remember he got injured in the shoulder week 2- or 3
Health was a MAJOR obstacle this year. Next year I expect things to even out a little bit
So…when Foles left the game against the Saints with the lead….
This is literally the definition of trolling.
catches tears.
sips them.
sighs over the bouquet after the refreshment.
Since I’m not crying, tears aren’t the bodily fluid you’re drinking.
Who’s crying?
Is being a long-winded know-it-all not enough for you? You’ve got to be an ***hole too?
What does Luck have to do with anything? Oh wait… I think I know…
A team in the Conference title game?
Wilson is the best QB in this universe. Lol
Russell Wilson is crying, man…
If that game lasted another 15 minutes . . .
Seattle would have won by 2 TDs.
Maybe more.
GB was dead out there.
Guess gonna have to wait till end of SB now to interview Fitterer
LOL – I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t think they’re waiting on Fitterer. I think they want someone more experienced.
I was wondering if they were waiting on someone from the Pack or Hawks. If they interview a Pack guy this week, I think we have an answer.
If not and there’s no announcement, they may wait until after the Superbowl.
Shit, this means I want New England to win. That’s never a fun place to be.
Damn Colts better make a run hate Seattle and New England
I have a feeling they will roll over. Last time I rooted for Colts (against DAL) they sucked.
Wow.
With all due love and respect to Foles, but Wilson is just awesome.
Come on. He made some big time plays in the clutch but that doesn’t change the fact that he sucked for four quarters.
He’s a very good QB but the adulation is over the top.
The same with Foles except he’s just a good QB.
Without the best Defense in the league, he gets no chance to play hero ball with 5 minutes left in the game – that game is a blowout along the lines of when the Eagles played the Pack this year.
And without the best QB in the league would GB have played as well as they did against said D?
Eagles humbled us this year like we did the Giants… ran into a buzzsaw
What adulation? I was referring to his whole career in the NFL so far, not his 4 quarters. Besides even The Bradys and P Manninga had 4 Ints games before.
2012 QB class
1.Luck
2.Wilson
3.Foles
Its still really early for each career and all are fun to watch and I believe are franchise QBs. Just because one is great doesn’t mean the other ones suck
That’s fine. But its more like:
1. Luck
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2. Wilson
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3. Foles
Luck & Wilson are top-5 QBs in the league.
Yea bums can throw 7tds in one game , happens all the time. U obviously hate Foles
All 3 have done impressive things since joining NFL and all 3 ALWAYS give their team a chance to win. Despite playing BAD for the 1st 3 QTRs
AGAINST OAKLAND!
They have a better secondary than us right?
So who threw 7TDS against us?
And I don’t *hate* Foles.
I just want a real QB. We can win with Nick. But the Bucs won with Brad Johnson and the Ravens won with Trent Dilfer.
Just unlikely is all.
I don’t always like the way Foles plays….Sometimes its F’n depressing like a lot of SEAfans felt for most of that game.
When Foles is in I KNOW we have a chance. I never had that faith in Mcnabb even. Being clutch is real and quantifiable.
#5 always let the game get too big for him when it counted.
Dunno. 4th and 26 was pretty big time.
After that. Good point. I’ll also throw in playing on a broken ankle in AZ
I mean after ’05 u knew we weren’t coming back in the 4th with the combo of Reids play calling and McNabbs clutch talents
Maybe Fredex wasn’t a talentless hack he did have that 4th &26! But hey 7 TDs and leading team to play offs in 1st year as a starter is easy.
I just wish people appreciated patience and progress a little more.
Meant this for mksp:
I think if you were choosing the top 5 QBs you’d want going forward, Wilson is top 5. I don’t think he’s top 5 right now.
To build around. I agree!
Truth
Luck yes. Not Wilson.
Would rather have Rodgers, Brady, Luck, Roethlisberger, and P. Manning (healthy) for sure. I put Wilson in the second tier with guys like Romo. Hardly a knock but I don’t think Wilson can carry a team to victory the way those top tier guys can.
That’s fair. I’d rather have Wilson than Roethlisberger though.
With the exception of Luck, all of those guys are established winners. Also, you missed Brees in that top tier. Wilson’s closer to top 10 than top 5, but he’s still really good.
I think Brees has fallen off a bit. Still good, but no longer “win a game he has no business winning by himself” good.
Your point about the different ages of the guys is well-taken. Wilson could very well grow into a top 5 QB in time. So could a lot of young QBs however. He’s just not quite there yet IMO.
Fair. I’d place Wilson in the top 10, but not in the top 5 yet. I also believe he is likely to get there barring injury.
Agreed. Also I don’t think calling Wilson awesome is any slap in Foles’ face.
Not just the 2012’class, that’s the heiratchy for all the top young QBs…Cam, the Red water pistol, they all fall behind those 3… def have to put Luck ahead of wilson, he would be unstopple with BEASTMODE and seattle D… What makes luck so special is he does it with less than Nick and wilson…luck has that entire franchise on his back. FOles and wilson get way more help
2 talented pass catching tight ends , Hall of fame WR, fast,fast WR TY Hilton…
Lucks not all alone out there I would say he has a few weapons, no reliable run game since RB got hurt in PS
So I haven’t been here, but here’s the biggest problem I have if I’m a GB fan. Why the frig on the Pack’s last int does that guy take a slide when there was room to run. He had enough room to go along the sideline and put the team in at least fg range. He slid with all that room, that didn’t make any sense at all.
Edit add: Yeah a lot of mistakes GB made, conservative etc. But that guy went literally into a victory slide like ok that’s the game.
There’s many other things. Kicking a FG at the 1/2 yard line. Playing conservative in the 2nd half.
He was possessed by Brian Westbrook and wanted to screw fantasy players.
THAT GUYS NAME IS MORGAN BURNETT!!!
Seahawks and Pats actually will have enough stories over 2 weeks to make it interesting from a PR perspective. I hope the Colts get beat and beat handily.
Gold standard the last 15 years vs the gold standard the past few years.
The Green Bay team bus left the stadium without:
1. Mike McCarthy
2. TE Bostick
3. Clinton-Dixx
4. Dom Capers (3rd & 19 — 3 man rush)
5. Casey Hayward
6. The Offensive line
Who’d I leave out?
MORGAN BURNETT!!! AHHH!!! You are proving my theory right! He will never get the credit he deserves for this one!!!
Already MIA.
I couldn’t punish a guy who actually caught the INT.
C-Dixx . . . dropped one.
Then didn’t make a play on the 2-pt conversion.
Yes you can! You totally can! He had no Seattle player anywhere near him and he just took a knee with 5 minutes to go!! YOU CAN TOTALLY PUNISH THAT GUY!!!
Chip would say :
“score some fucking points Burnett,whats your plan” lol
You called it early in the game getting on GB for the missed opportunities. You go on the road, you better capitalize while you can. At some point, you know the beast was going to wake up and GB didn’t capitalize when it could…you saw,that coming in the first quarter, tip my hat…
Go on the road against a great defense and coach scared, you get what you deserve… Sooner or later the BEAST was going to wake up, if you don’t capitalize when you can, this is EXACTLY what happens….Wilson brought it in crunch time, THATS ALL THAT MATTERS, we don’t get to utter a word about the INTs, because CRUNCH TiME IS ALL THAT MATTERS! But the same applies to our young gunner…
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The really good legit young QBs, while they are still developing and working out their flaws, they are still able to win games… That’s why I put FOles, with Luck, Wilson.. They are all flawed, far from developed, but they give you a chance to win in the 4th…. You wanna know the difference? The pretenders like Cam Newton throw pick 6’s in crunch time.
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All that matters is if you fought thru the bulshit, figured it out, and gave your team a chan to win… I don’t wanna hear a word about the INTs, gotta tip your hat to the young man
Please stop the ridiculous Foles to Luck/Wilson comparisons.
Please take my nuts out your mouth… Give your jaw one nights rest…;) MUah sweetie
Why do you repeatedly mention nuts/gentalia?
He has the intellect and maturity of a 12 year old. Are you surprised?
The issue is can the Eagles win in the playoffs with Foles. I do think they can but Foles isn’t Luck/Wilson for several reasons with the main one being he doesn’t have the same athletic ability of either.
Just flag the comment. Tommy can’t ignore it forever.
Not necessary. It is a blog and I don’t get the upset by it.
I like his comments more often than not.
Classic boxing match. GB easily could have put this team away several times and instead Seattle won by TKO in the 12th.
In order to be a champion. You must make plays. Not avoid mistakes. Make the Play.
Was that from Madden ’03?
When you make an int and there’s 5 minutes on the clock and there’s a shit ton of room ahead of you you don’t go into a friggin Victory Slide!!!!!!!
I couldn’t tell during the live action. Side shot.
Did the replay show room down the sideline?
He had room right up the middle! why worry about the sideline!
I couldn’t tell from the TV shot.
Generally, most of the other team’s offense is in the middle of the field.
But again I couldn’t see one way or the other
Worst case scenario is he gets 15-20 yards before being corralled by a fatty. That would have put them at midfield at worst.
I could be wrong but it looked like a lot of room, with some o-lineman in front of him that aren’t going to catch him to the sideline. If he’s worried about fumbling, he def could’ve made it to the sideline before he got hit.
It looked like a ton of room, you’re right I didn’t have an overhead shot, all I saw was an offensive lineman about 10 yards in front of him, all the fast guys were behind him.
HIS NAME IS MORGAN BURNETT! THATS THE GUY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
I don’t want to say his name, he’s an idiot. And Aikman or Buck one of them called it a good move that he slid. GTFO
Another reason to be pissed as an Eagles’ fan: Cowboys fans are now happy.
Another moron move, I wasn’t here I’m sure this was covered, you call time out with 19 seconds to kick a tying FG? WTF???????
It was 4th down.
You let the clock run to 5 seconds, don’t give them a chance for a run back to get them in fg range with one throw. Like say, they get a good return to the 40, make a good throw, call their last timeout, they could’ve hit a fg. Long shot, but it’s happened. Letting it run to 4-5 seconds leaves no doubt over OT.
It was so frustrating to see GB go that conservative with more than 5 minutes left. They had a one-armed Richard Sherman and never threw at him. They deserved to lose.
One armed Sherman actually tackled jordy nelson short on third down . But you are right.
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If they had gone for the 2 touchdowns early in the game (even if they only converted one ) instead of the field goals, that’s a big difference
It was definitely called for a joke about The Fugitive.
Seems to me running at him would have been just as effective…
Please Luck go off, I really don’t want to watch Pas and Hawks
Oh god, first we have to see Wilson overcome a 4 interception day, now we have to listen to Phil Simms slurp Tom Brady for 3 hours. The horror, the horror.
At one point his stat line was 2/10 for 20 with 3 int
Similar to the Mendoza Line in baseball, my friends refer to this as the Geno Smith line, for his 2/8, 8 yds, 3 INT game earlier this season. At one point today, Wilson had exactly matched that stat line.
Attention BLIND CHOW . . .
Do you remember the Packers / Bears game from 2013 late in the season.
You posted more than once your frustration with McCarthy that he wouldn’t go for 2 after GB scored.
Data supported your premise.
This game reminded me of that one . . . McCarthy’s conservative approach, I mean.
Ha! I can’t remember that far back, but he does seem to play “not to lose” rather than to win.
seems limited as a HC considering he’s got AR.
Another thing, that was a crap move by the coach yelling at a guy who’s made the worst mistake in his life in front of millions of people. What the hell good did that do?
Who?
It must’ve been the special teams coach? Got right in his face screaming after he missed the ball. How’s that going to help anything? I’m a great coach and you f-ed up? That’s lame, that guy made a Scott Norwood, there’s no reason to yell in his face like that.
GB Spec Teams coach yelling at TE Bostick who muffed Seattle’s on-side kick.
Ahhh I missed the yelling but witnessed the epic fail of Bostick.
Yelling wasn’t attractive.
Agree with that.
It was a pathetic, I couldn’t believe that a pro coach, knowing how shitty that guy feels, could scream in his face like that. That’s not helping anyone, right now, his life is horrible.
Considering the role poor coaching played in the loss he’s got a lot of gall yelling at Bostick like that.
Agreed, there’s plenty of yelling that can go around. My point underneath, guy makes an int and goes into victory slide instead of taking all those precious yards in front of him, then GB goes super conservative with that QB, and punt, and bang, bang, bang. Yeah, there’s plenty of yelling to go around.
They should cut him immediately after the game. Bostick makes $500K plus. He can handle being yelled at.
They should fire the coach, usually the one yelling is the one trying to make oneself look better. It wasn’t a punt the ball to DeSean mistake, it was a miss of a slippery ball. Yeah, I would fire the shitty coach.
It was Bostick’s job to block so Jordy Nelson could make an easy recovery. Instead he of infinitely worse hands tries to catch it himself. I’d agree that it doesn’t particularly help things at that moment, but in general I don’t have a problem with coaches holding players accountable for their mistakes.
Yeah, it doesn’t matter, there’s a million things we could talk about, but right now we’re talking about the Seahawks in the Super Bowl and that’s it, the better team overcame a deficit and did it with ease once their offense got rolling.
McCarthy isn’t exactly a popular coach in GB among the rank and file and I can’t imagine this game will do much to help his opinion among the fans there.
Police are at this moment surrounding his home and family in GB.
Deservedly after his horrible decisions early in this game allowed Seattle to come back and steal this one.
He’s won a Super Bowl. Winning a Super Bowl typically gives you at least a 5-year halo. I’d think he has at least the next 2 years before he starts feeling heat.
I don’t know man, in Philly I’m not sure he’d even get a full season.
It’s Green Bay though. I’d think they’d appoint him King. In Philly, even if Reid won the Super Bowl, they’d still boo him if he blew a timeout in the first preseason game the next sesason.
I’m so looking forward to an Eagles vs Seahawks NFCCG 2015.
Burnett should do another victory slide when he gets on the bus. GAMES OVER RIGHT GUYS?!
do not try this slide in the shower though!
Burnett made a play.
Maybe he should have run.
Maybe, at that point, he’d been coached to go down so he didn’t fumble.
There were plenty of Packers — starting with the head coach — who DID NOT make plays in the last 5 minutes.
There were a lot of mistakes you’re right, but that dude called the game after that int. that’s insane
Come on man, you’re giving him way too much credit. You know who else made a play? The San Diego guy who picked off Brady in 2005 on 4th down. He got hit and fumbled the ball back to New England.
You know why in that case it made zero sense to return the ball? It was 4th freaking down and less than 2 minutes left, so all they had to do was take a knee.
Yeah this game was far from over especially with the conservative play calling after the int. They are in fg range with 0 yards if he runs that back, i’m about 90 percent sure of that, would love to see an overhead shot of that.
GB lost the game when they kicked a FG on the goal line of the first possession…set the tone for a game of wasted opportunities, playing scared..
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Everyone knows you have to score more than 17 to beat seattle
StH:
For Green Bay, the clock was the enemy.
No point in arguing.
Burnett’s hardly the goat.
Evidently the clock wasn’t the enemy, because Seattle scored twice in 42 seconds.
Far from it, but there’s a difference between a good football brain and doing what the guy did on the onsides kick. When the brain needs to come into play you need to use it. When the ball is slippery and you drop it, it’s a bad play, horrible play, not a play where you have a decision to make.
If Elway was president of the Pakers, McCarthy wouldnt see tomorrow as HC of GB
Is that a good thing? Players seem to believe in McCarthy
I dunno… Personally I don’t care for him. Then again I don’t believe they ever win a SUPERBOWL again, which is fine, they already have one and no one will take it away… But I just get that PEyton Mannng feeling of Rodgers will spend years setting regular season records as the best in the game, but will remain 1 and done in terms of the rings….. Maybe if they shaked hings up and get a different coach I will feel diffrent
I feel that way about Pagano some ppl are just infinitely opportunistic doesn’t hurt to have Luck on your side
I hear it was Burnett’s idea to have GB call only runs once the clock hit 6 minutes.
No but it was his idea not to put the team in fg range without the offense having to gain a yard, maybe more, he had so much clear space would love to see an overhead shot of that. Not putting it all on him, but man, I was like really? The game’s over dude? It’s the Pros, dumbass
Unreal, what an idiot. That’s at least fg range.
Really curious to see the ratings for this game especially in the 4th quarter and OT. Kind of a dull/flat game before the last 5-6 minutes in the 4th quarter and OT.
SB is going to be torture… We either watch an NFC rival become a dynasty or we watch the patriot scum actually win a Super Bowl without cheating…. WTF!!!!
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Only silver lining is seattle is crazy enough to lose BEASTMODE over $$$ and if they are crazy enough to do that, they will never be the same
They’re high on Christine Michael and want to pay Wilson. They have to make some tough choices.
Never be the same without the beast
Not technically a dynasty until they get 3 in 4 years, but I get what you’re saying.
Also, I’d hardly call Seattle a “rival.”
Birds /
Back to back is friggin TÔUGH in this day and age
Super Bowl?
Super Bowl?
You’re talking Super Bowl?
(Jim Mora, we miss you.)
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Season’s over. It’s only going to get worse tonight.
On to the draft.
So do you still not want Luck to reach the SB?
I don’t think they are good enough
Luck under threw one and over threw one he sucks they should cut him
Luck is hot garbage against New England every time they play. I bet he throws at least 2 atrocious interceptions.
If Luck can just play like Russell Wilson tonight . . . w/ 4 INTs . . .
and throw throw the winning TD . . .
That’ll make the season.
If the Patriots help him along like green bay did Seattle then that’s possible, but they won’t because they’re New England, and they have a killer instinct like a fucking alpha predator.
True that.
Shit coach takes the best QB in the league and goes conservative like he has Brad Goebel or some crap like that.
BC1968:
That observation may have put things in the best perspective yet.
In fact, what you’re saying is McCarthy is the new Kotite.
Heath Sherman: 36 carries for like 95 yards? LOL
And Sherman was out of shape the entire season.
I remember that game vividly.
Driving rain.
Eagles abusing Testeverde.
Then Chris Chandler comes in and throws a 2 TDs in the 4th Q.
While Kotite continues running Heath into the line.
Cost the Birds the playoffs.
Yep, oh the Kotite days. What’s the opposite of glory years? LOL
Don’t speak of Brad Goebel. I’m having flashbacks.
My apologies.
Patriots are gonna blow the doors off Indy. This won’t even be close.
Whatever is left of Phil Simms’ brain came out of his ears trying to explain why Indy shouldn’t challenge the spot.
I feel terrible laughing at that.
Baloophi:
Now I want to you top that comment tonight.
You may have foolishly fired your best salvo
I enjoy a good challenge but sadly, I already have one lined up: attempting to install a cell-phone holder in my car using instructions seemingly proof-read by a toddler.
A toddler, or Phill Simms perhaps?
Much like Simms, my head just exploded.
Challenge renewed
A brief excerpt: “Peel off the adhesive tape on Part ”
There are three parts with adhesive tape. At least there’s something called an “alcohol pad” if all else fails…
Connar mcGregor is getting way too much hype… He better not let DENNIS sixer spinning back kick him in the head…. I can’t believe how much hype fox is giving him..”the Irish Ali”???? You wish!!!
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Source tells @ESPNRadio980 that Vic Fangio is in the “thinking process” of what he wants to do. Sounds like not an easy decision
I hope the Bears hire him.
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Who cares… If he goes to work for Dan Snyder then he isn’t as bright as we thought anyway lol
non-draft pearl.
Really, I want the Eagles to go after him. He runs the same style D so there wouldn’t be a huge adjustment scheme wise. I wouldn’t fire Davis just to fire him, but I would for Fangio.
Fangio should wait.
The Packers’ D-coordinator job will be open in 48 hours.
Being “in the thinking process” is just the source’s polite way of saying Fangio’s taking a dump…
Ordinarily, one season doesn’t create a hangover for the next one.
But I can see GB not bouncing back from that. Even with Rodgers gunning.
EPIC COLLAPSE.
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First casualty . . . DOM CAPERS. Mutual parting.
GB fans have wanted him gone the past few years but their defense bounced back this season. They were doing really well early and then fell apart.
Green Bay does have a history of canning coaches after improbable playoff losses… just ask the People’s Champ.
You mean . . . Ed Donnatell?
Always thought was chicken-crap move.
Special teams special teams special teams…. Played a monster role in deciding the NFC championship and already having a huge impact on the AFC championship.
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Can’t complain when we think chip is going overboard…sort of like a Parent forcing kids to eat their vegetables.. It sucks, but it’s good for us…. 1st coach I ever seen dedicate an entire free agent period on building a ST… Crazy like a fox….
Seattle was horrible on K.O. returns. Also, I believe we damaged our depth some with the overemphasis on special teams. Doesn’t mean that having good ST is anything to be sneezed at.
Having a good STs is a good thing, but them having as much impact next season as this one is unrealistic. Have to improve in other areas so we’re not as reliant on them. Also, if the STs were as good next season as this, we might lose Dave Fipp to a head coaching job.
Hope Cory Redding gets the respect he deserves. Playing some great ball this year, really high level for a 33-34yr old… We praise OL and QB who can play into their 30s, here is a defender aging like fine wine,,,
This feels like a middleweight (Indy) fighting a heavyweight (New England).
Not to me. Colts have a chance.
Well I was way off about GB/Seattle, I thought Seattle would blow them out, so I could be way off here too.
28-3 in the last 7-8 minutes was the blow-out part.
Don’t count the Colts out. For the first 5 or 6 minutes of last week’s game, it looked like it was going to be a Denver blowout.
Luck usually doesn’t,wake up til latwr
So . . . many . . . drops
Knicknamed boom
Herron dropping back to back passes. RBs with good hands are a luxury.
If the colts dont draft a RB in round 1, order a drug test for the owner
Colts always play this way to start. Cant remember last game I watched where they came out clicking at all.
I know, Luck sucks in the first half, he often makes a mess, and he spends the second half overcoming the mess he made..his wins range from messy to ugly, we would crucify him for being not even close to perfect
What?
Drafting a RB in Rd 1 is almost always a waste. You can find good RBs later or cheaply in FA. Look at Justin Forsett. He was signed for the minimum. Part of the reason that McCoy needs to take a pay cut this offseason.
They can’t afford to role the dice any longer. They need a guaranteed upgrade like yesterday
They could draft someone in Round 1 and it’s still not a guaranteed upgrade.
MELVIN Gordon. Problem solved
Guaranteed upgrade like Trent Richardson? There are no guarantees in the draft and taking a RB in the 1st is a waste.
Rethinking losing cody Parkey? Lol I joke I joke
“Rethinking Losing Cody Parkey” won several awards at Sundance this year…
Shut up Phil Simms, jesus.
He is so bad, it’s like listening to a 90yr old with Parkinson’s. If he ever tries to say a Samoan name again, I will lose it
Edelman has fumbled a lot the past couple weeks. Could be a factor.
That’s an interception even Malcom Jenkins could make if #50 turns to find the ball. He’s an LB so he gets a bit of a pass but still…
Nice catchcatch by Vereen
Jesus its 51 degrees in New England right now?
Lucky bastards
hey man, the seattle game is over.
Indy won’t win this.
You may be right.
I hope Colts come back but I think NE will take care of business.
Luck is always garbage against New England. This is going to be a long brutal slog to an inevitable NE victory.
deja vu
I don’t think I hate (And hate hearing about) a professional sports team more than the Patriots. Andrew Luck better dig deep
The Patriot Way man, has a fanbase ever swallowed such a load of self righteous spunk with as much gusto as Patriots fans?
“America’s Team”?
But even America’s Team doesn’t carry as powerful self righteous overtones as The Patriot Way.
It’s a tough act to keep up when you discover that your star tight end is actually a remorseless psychotic murderer.
Not as self righteous true, but just as arrogant.
Probably even more arrogant actually haha.
The Colts roster is so crappy, I never understand how they’re in the playoffs year after year.
Irsay voodoo sacrificed the city of clevelands football soul somehow
Their division is like our division
Can i please get a summary of what happened at the end of the Packers game, thought for sure there was no way they’d lose that game.
The summary would be like 12 paragraphs long. In a nutshell the Packers screwed the pooch from here to high heaven and then Russell Wilson made 2 great throws in OT to end the game.
Greenbay is gonna cut Aaron Wroggers
Ask 5 people get 5 answers:
1.Terrible play calling on GB
2.RW is clutch
3.Bostic a LB on the hands team goofed
4.Morgan Burnett intercepted a pass and laid down with green infront of him
5.S/T punter throws pass to big ugly
Bonus: over time rules are WHACKY
It’s probably all of these and more.
Bostick could’ve been a LB in ’70s when they could wear jersey numbers in the 80-89 range but he is a TE. Also why no mention of Marshawn? He was the Seahawks best player on offense in the game.
Im Thankful for everything, thats why lol
Love the way the Patriots rally to the ball after an interception. The reason the Patriots do well in the post spygate era is they almost never do stupid shit. Sometimes they get outplayed, but they don’t kill themselves by doing dumb shit.
Like taking victory slides with 5 minutes left in the game only up 12 points.
Blog commentator’s curse? haha
“Did u see that arm strength there!”
On a Tom Brady over throw lol all the time
Lb Jackson > CB Fletcher in coverage.
Jackson and Meco would be a great 1-2 punch of old guys. Interesting jackson can cover 20yds down the field.
Wilfork was late and that was dirty fat ass 350 or more running full speed at u
It’s incredible that Wilfork can move as good as he does, he’s enormous.
tummy gets bigger every year
If I had a belly like that I’d be lucky to stand up.
Just get a rocking motion going to gather some momentum.
No Phil, they threw the flag because he threw his forearm into the other guys head, not because his forward progress had stopped.
Someone take Phil’s mic.
Whew, hell of a catch by Hilton.
I make plenty of draft blunders but I was all over Hilton as a prospect.
My favorite draft blunder was Trevor Laws. I wanted Trevor Laws and correctly predicted the Eagles would pick him in the 2nd round.
Hooray for being right?
Mine was BG My ego still wants that to be right!
If he hadn’t had microfracture surgery his rookie year you might have been right. That’s the thing people never seem to remember about his career, we’ll never know what he could have been because of that.
I still think he can be great. That window is closing tho
Let him blitz from all diff spots and utilize the Players he already built around BG needs to be resigned
why? He’s not good enough as a 34 OLB doing everything we want him to do, he’s not going ot play super cheap, he wants to rush, id llet him go and replace with a better rotational guy.
Didn’t say great here. He forced FF at a crazy clip this year playing mostly part time. If he goes to a 4-3 I think he will be great. At the time we drafted him I though it was a great fit, and it could have been even better.
Depends on Graham wanting $$$ If he just wants decent money and a real shot at playing time based on results….I prefer to resign him
Microfracture surgery or not, he wasn’t going to be better than Earl Thomas.
Maybe not, but if he was a 10-12 sack a year guy would it sting as bad? Probably not.
In the wide 9 system or our 4-3 McDermot defense just rushing the passer he could have been all time
I felt the same way about Berry at KC and look what happened. Like it or not it does equate to luck with health sometimes
Exactly, Nate Allen looked good his rookie year and then it seemed like he could never adjust to the speed he lost after his patella tendon injury.
Nate’s issues are instincts as much as anything else.
True but when you lose speed that changes what your instincts need to be.
If Nate Allen were to go see the Wizard of Oz ….. he would ask for a ….. Heart , Brain …..and courage !!
His biggest issue is that he is playing a game for ( MEN – see Kam Chancellor ) and he is a BOY !!
Nate’s issues include tackling which have been a big con since his USF days.
Question – what do ……. T J Ward , Morgan Burnett and Kam Chancellor, all have in common ………. ?
Answer – They were all drafted AFTER …… Nate Allen in the 2010 draft !!
see Jadaveon Clowney
You are right, he forces a fumble every game….turned into a beast
My best draft prediction is correctly saying the day of the 2005 draft on the Eagles’ message board that the Eagles were trading down in the 4th round to take Todd Herremanns.
That was a hell of a call.
This year I was 100% certain that we were taking Cody Lattimer when we picked Jordan Mathews. I thought Lattimer had exactly the kind of YAC skills Chip would want.
I won’t lie either I wanted Robinson there
Me too man, me too. I wonder if I will ever predict a pick correctly. I don’t even know who I want in the first this year.
who cares they probably won’t play anyway
Thanks for shitting all over my draft dreams 🙁
I’m more excited about FA, i hope we do something worthwhile.
You should be..people need to forget about looking to the draft for immediate help. Anything you get from a rookie is a bonus. You build next years team in free agency, you build your future in the draft…doubt more than 1 or 2 rookies each year will get significant playing time in years 3,4,5 of the program chip is building
Maaaaaaaarcus Daaaaaarling!! Lol
I assume you are referring to Mariota now 😉
Sammie Coates in the second this year.
Everytime I watch the patriots I get nauseaus that we took shawn Andrews instead of Wilfork who is still Beasting!!!!!
Luck is all over the place with his accuracy. That’s going to dog him his whole career I think. When he was a rookie I thought it might get better but he’s still spraying it all over the place.
always or just based on what you’re seeing today- some people have bad games. it’s not like he can rely on establishing a run game.
Admittedly I haven’t watched all his games but he doesn’t look any different today than I remember in the past.
I watched every colt game this year, he is consistentky erratic especially in first half, usually gets it together in the 3rd or 4th quarter…. His wins range from messy to ugly, with some spectacular comebacks late because of how much of a mess he makes early…. But in fairness, they ask too much of him. He has to do way more than Foles to wilson to win
You watched every Colt game?! Even ones that showed at the same time as our games you Monster!! 😛
Yes… I watch games all week…Torrents… Mostly watch the defenses I like, like the bills, seahawks, Dolphins when Dion came back
I’m like that with some college teams but I don’t have the dedication you do for watching all these NFL teams, except the Bills, always watch the Bills
If you watch that many games and like to review & comment, you should set up a blog site and run with it. See where it takes you.
He was either down or TD
Yawn. Watching the Patriots offense is almost boring at this point. It’s like watching an assembly line or maybe the inner workings of a gear system.
Please …… again with the ” Ed Marynowitz ” crap. Marynowitz is NOT ready to be a NFL teams ( GM / Player Personnel Executive. ) He apparently has a good eye for talent. Two years ago he was recruiting ( high school kids ) to come to Alabama. He has worked for the Eagles for two ( 2 ) years, and has worked in the NFL ….. ( FOR TWO YEARS ! ) let me repeat ….. he is not ready ! His NEW responsibilities would be : Overseeing both the ( pro and college ) scouting departments – setting up the draft board – hiring / firing scouts – organizing and running the draft – free agency – communicating with salary cap personnel, etc. , etc. This is no small job. It requires someone with many years of experience in ( departmental operations, people management and player evaluation. ) Does anyone REALLY think Marynowitz is ready for that type job ? Does anyone think this stuff through …. or do they just throw stuff up against the wall, and see what sticks ? Anthony Patch has been with the Eagles for 11 years, and is currently their director of college scouting. Rick Mueller has been with the team for two years, and has previously been a ( pro and college player scout – a director of college scouting – a director of player personnel – currently the Eagles director of pro personnel ) all in the NFL. So the ( Eagles / Chip Kelly ) should promote Ed Marynowitz OVER these two current Eagles employees, who are vastly more experienced then him ? Didn’t the Eagles already make this mistake, and go down this road before, by promoting Howie Roseman over the likes of ( Jason Licht – current Tampa Bay Buccaneers – GM ), and ( Ryan Grigson – current Indianapolis Colts – GM ? ) This is the type of poor decisions that have caused the reported ” toxic ” environment within the Eagles player personnel department and front office. The bottom line is that Chip Kelly ( and the Eagles ) need to hire someone to ” do the job ” …. not someone who has to ” learn ” how to do the job. Will the sports / Eagles reporters in this town PLEASE do their own research, and come up with their OWN thoughts ….. and STOP regurgitating the same ( Ed Marynowitz is a up and coming STAR in the NFL ) crap, over and over.
Who started with the “Ed Marynowitz” crap again? If it makes you feel better, most of the beat writers think Chip wants someone with more experience. Then again, with the beat writers’ track record, perhaps you should worry.
Tommy Lawlor ….. Les Bowen ….. Ray didinger. They all have stated ( via – radio / newspaper / website ) that Ed Marynowitz would be a good candidate for the Eagles new ( GM / Player Personnel Executive ) position. Not one of them have said, why they feel that this would be a good idea ….. other than ” It has been REPORTED that Marynowitz is a rising star in player personnel circles, in the NFL. ” Again ….. reported by WHO ? Dave Spadaro ? Some nameless, faceless person ? Something gets said one time, and then most of these Eagles commentators repeat it, like a flock of parrots. Will somebody …. anybody, please tell me WHY he is qualified to do that job ? Ray ….. Les ….. Tommy …..Why ? Has Chip Kelly been quoted saying that about Marynowitz ? Has anyone been quoted saying it ? Is there a question as to HOW it got out into the media ? Was it craftily leaked to the media, so to cover the Eagles rear ends if they have to promote him ( if all else fails ? ) Would not shock me. Even Adam Caplan spewed the same crap several weeks ago. No explanation as to why he thought he would be a good candidate, just more regurgitation.
I think if it was going to be Marynowitz it would have happened by now. From everything I can gather, multiple people are high on him including guys that aren’t solely media but have a background in the NFL. That said, that doesn’t mean he’s ready yet for a lead role.
This is my thinking. If he’s the guy, what’s the holdup? I asked a few questions about this earlier, because it seems that they are waiting for someone who’s on a team that’s left.
I find that humorous, because the only people that could have any knowledge of his ( abilities ) would be people who he ( either ) works with or works for. So ( how / where ) did these people with NFL backgrounds, get their information on him ? So, he’s been doing a good job ….. does that mean he is ready to be a NFL GM ? NO. Rising STAR, after 2 years ? NO. Sounds to me like ( He might be ) Howies boy, and if he got the job, Howie would still have a confidant in the player personnel department. Remember Howie hired him, before he hired Chip, or Gamble. Maybe Howie is ” leaking ” some info to the NFL media types. I don’t know if you heard but Adam Caplan reported Friday that Roseman is scheduled to interview for the GM and salary cap positions with the Fantasy Football websites : Fanduel and DraftKings . I heard he’s the front runner, but Mike Tannenbaum and John Idzik are other possibilities. Roseman is also rumored to be a strong candidate to taking over the role as new General Manager for the website ” over the cap.com. “
It’s going to be Marynowitz from what I hear…..sorry, and I don’t even pay our media any attention
Hear from where ….. may I ask ? If that is true, I have zero faith in Chip Kelly and the Eagles organization. They NEED a experienced NFL player personnel guy. Nothing against Marynowitz, but his time will come in the future. How ( can / could ) the ( Eagles / Chip ) Kelly go from interviewing Brian Gaine ( 16 years experience in NFL player personnel ) to hiring Ed Marynowitz ( 2 years as assistant in NFL player personnel ? ) That would be a terrible decision, not to mention the effect that it would have on the current player personnel employees who have 10 – 15 years of NFL experience. I sincerely hope that you have been misinformed about this.
From no one. He reads twitter then posts cryptic nonsense to give himself the aura of an “insider.”
Pay him no mind. Hey may or may not be right, but it would be entirely because of luck.
You sir ……. might just be CORRECT.
To be fair, he’s often good at understanding the way the team would think and “reading the tea leaves”.
In contrast to Mike Peirrera, Mike Carey is painfully awkward in the booth. How he managed to officiate games without suffering full blown panic attacks is remarkable.
He was pretty awkward on the field too. He always seemed like he was really trying to concentrate on saying the correct thing.
Vontae Davis is a beast — FA, could have been had cheaply.
Maclin opting out of first pro bowl. Signals to me (a) he’s trying to get paid and (b) no clarity on where he is with the eagles. If they were close on an agreement you think he’d play but that type of conservatism sort of signals — not so much.
Gotta think his agent is receiving or making inquiries to other teams.
I wouldn’t play either without a signed contract. Even clarity on where the team is at isn’t enough for Maclin. He needs to get paid
Right on. Stupid to take any risk at this point.
Some freak accident at the Pro Bowl and he’s literally out millions of dollars.
Dude, Its no secret no one wants to play in the probowl since its in arizona instead of Hawaii
interesting — i’d want to play in my first Pro Bowl. But agree, lots of no shows.
I, sure not getting injured also factors into Maclins case, but that’s why everyone is declining, especially guys who already have been to Hawii…half of them have houses in arizona, it’s nothing special for them
Maybe GE’s right… I’ve lived in Hawaii and AZ, and HI is a much nicer place to visit! Plus, we have some bad allergies here in the Valley. Ah-choo!
I don’t think he’d play unless an extension was actually signed. Close doesn’t count. That “close” extension would be off the table if he suffered a major injury.
Don’t think Maclin or his agent/reps can talk to other teams now as that would be tampering.
Can’t believe Nate Solder stiff caught a TD pass SMH… Bellicek and Pete Carrol, out coaching their competition..
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Sabans alabama offensve sets….. .their run game should give seattle D some problems. Kam Chancellor gonna earn his money next game
Very curious to see what the Opening Line will be for the SB. I would guess the Seahawks are favorites but only slightly (say 2 or 2.5)
I don’t give a damn both these teams are on my to 5 hated list
THis is so politically incorrect but once in awhile you have to take a chance. That domestic violence commercial could also pass for “How the Packers’ fans feel” commercial.
Question: I’ve seen a few of you say that Marynowitz is the guy. If so, what’s the holdup hiring him?
Is there someone from the 4 teams this weekend that Kelly wants to get a better look at? If so, does he get it out of the way this week or are we waiting until after the Superbowl?
Question 2: Gamble is gone, which I guess was the de facto GM in Chip’s eyes. Is the new GM search replacing Gamble’s role or is this a new position? If Marynowitz is the guy, does Chip hire the replacement or does Marynowitz bring in one of his guys to do his old job?
Question 3: My assumption is that there’s a running draft board now. If the new guy comes in, how does that change the outlook on the draft board? How does he/she get familiar with the scouts and gain that trust quickly to know to trust the board they come up with?
All good questions. I think scouts are doing their thing, chip doing his thing — i think they want the guy fro mthe seahawks, but in reality this will be a chip getting his players draft.
There’s Fitterer from Seattle. I don’t think Marynowitz is in danger of leaving, so there probably isn’t that much of a rush.
As far as the draft board, there was talk that the “football guys” rearranged what the scouts had come up with last year. Now that Kelly’s got complete control of personnel, it sounds like it won’t matter what the new guy thinks about their draft board.
If Wilson’s struggles earlier today weren’t evidence that we should not be hasty in writing off young quarterbacks because they struggle at times when the team around them is decimated by injury or underperformance, Luck’s ought to.
2014:
Russell Wilson- 11 INTs in 18 games
Nick Foles- 10 INTs in 7.5 games
Way to cherry pick stats so that it looks like you have a point. I could just as easily point out that Foles threw only 2 INTs in 10 games in 2013.
Bottom line is: it is too early to write off Foles, and doing so could prove to be extremely foolish.
No, its not. I simply took results from this season. That’s not cherry picking.
Basing your argument on a season that was a clear outlier, not just for Foles, but an outlier among the entire history of the NFL. That is cherry picking.
2013 was clearly a positive outlier. But it’s quite possible 2014 was a negative outlier. We don’t know Foles’ true mean level of performance yet. When you only have three data points (two that are really relevant), and you take the one that supports your position and ignore the one that doesn’t, that is the textbook definition of cherry-picking. I work with statistics for a living. Take my word on that.
Also, Russell Wilson in 2014: 13 fumbles. 0 fumbles lost. Luck clearly played a role in his low turnover total.
I have to say, with all the lip service Chip Kelly gets about being “innovative,” he didn’t show half the innovation this year that Belichick is showing tonight.
Maybe I’ve just forgotten, but the team was downright conventional and predictable most of the year (except for maybe Special Teams).
I really think part of that was talent. For the 1st half of the year, they were recovering from injuries on offense. For the 2nd half of the year we had Mark Sanchez that couldn’t throw the long ball.
That’s exactly where innovation would have helped. Great coaches scheme around their deficiencies.
True, but sometimes it’s execution. I think about the Seattle game where Sanchez had open guys and just went to the covered man. I’m not saying he is or isn’t an innovator, but he did put the guys in positions to succeed (on offense). Defense is a different story, but I think that was more talent as well. Even the most brilliant minds can’t coach dead weight.
Look at this game, having OL become eligible and catch a TD pass, last game when a lineman went out they played with 4 and had enough trickery to win the game.
See also Harbaugh consistently going for it on 4th down, took balls but almost won them the game.
CK has a lot less experience than all these guys maybe that’s part of it, but he was a lot less “innovative” this year than last.
I wouldn’t blame the lack of innovation on MS, to me he wasn’t the issue on the team.
Coaches can make a team better than they should be considering the available personnel they have but it doesn’t mean they can create miracles.
To be fair, the whole innovative thing comes from the mouth of others, not Kelly himself. He freely admits he borrows from others. Really, while he brought some package plays that not many other teams used before and he’s been at the forefront of the whole sports science thing, all in all I’d say he’s relatively conservative and conventional.
I never said Kelly called himself innovative. That’s irrelevant.
But he has shown creativity in the past (hence his reputation), and it seems he’s abandoned it. Perhaps he is sensitive to what other people say about the “right” way to do things in the NFL.
One thing I know about Chip is that he doesn’t care what others think.
Yeah, I’ve heard that too. That, and that he’s innovative.
I also wonder if he’s realizing his innovative tricks may not work as well in the big leagues. Defensive Coordinators are a lot smarter in the NFL than in the Pac-12.
Lol Chung just lit up Edelman at the end of that big punt return. Some things never change…
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Falcons are hiring Kyle Shanahan as their OC, per league source. Shanahan and Dan Quinn planned to be package deal.
That takes Shanahan out of play for the Ravens. It sounds like Dennison will go to Denver with Kubiak(agreed to be Broncos’ HC). Ravens could block him if they want but it doesn’t sound like they will.
Does anyone know if the Eagles can now ( if they plan to ) interview, Scott Fitterer ( Seahawks – director of college scouting ) while the Seahawks have two weeks off preparing for the Super Bowl ?
will say a lot if they don’t.
Can they by the rules?
yeah i think you can interview in the bye week and the week before the SB. so if they can interview and they don’t it’ll say a lot.
I can agree with that. I have to remember he’s only been in the league 2 years. He’s learning, but I think it takes time to figure out these things. BB has been doing this for years, and it’s going to take someone a few years to be as good as him.
No they can’t. If they had given him a 1st interview during Seattle’s bye wee, then they could give him a 2nd interview now. They can’t give him a 1st interview. From what I’ve read, Fitterer isn’t that serious of a candidate anyway.
Shame, seems like a good fit. The rules are confusing too. Why did it have to be in the 1st bye week to get a 2nd in the 2nd bye week?
I take it that this is a CBA thing?
I don’t know why. I’m assuming that the rules for GM interviews are the same as HC interviews and this was tweeted by Jason Cole(previously of Yahoo, now of Bleacher Report):
@JasonPhilCole
Jan 14
Asst coaches who win this weekend can do SECOND interviews with #NFL teams. But not FIRST. #Broncos can’t talk to Dan Quinn, for example.
Seems like a silly rule.
Not serious why ? Chips not interested, or he’s not interested in moving ? Do you think the whole ” Player personnel executive ” vs ” General Manager ” title is why they can’t or won’t get a top tier candidate ?
It’s not a matter of title specifically, it’s the fact that our GM role does not come with final say on personnel. Lurie specifically said that Kelly has that. Other teams can’t block one of their guys from interviewing for a GM role with final say but they can for the job we have available, regardless of what the title of it is. The exception would be if their contract was expiring, but the contracts of most personnel types don’t expire until after the draft. There’s been a lot of guys we’ve been reported to be interested in but only 2 known interviews: Brian Gaine and Chris Polian. The Texans ended up promoting Gaine. Polian is still a possibility. Not a good one IMO, but that’s another story. Other teams are already in the midst of planning for the draft and FA. It’s not to their advantage to let us interview their guys and I wouldn’t be surprised if we’ve been blocked from other interviews. The pool of candidates that are likely actually available is extremely limited. We’ll see who they end up hiring. It wouldn’t surprise me if they just stand pat for now and wait until after the draft to make moves.
The odd part is Fitterer works for Schneider who isn’t a “full power” GM. You would think he would be more open to a non traditional set up.
I’m not saying that Fitterer or other people might not be interested. I’m saying the Seahawks and other organizations may not give them permission to leave. It’s not in their self-interest.
If the Eagles call it General Manager and not “Vice President of begging Chip to not draft that guy 3 rounds too early” don’t the Seahawks have to let him interview, Bureaucratic hierarchy be damned?
Nope. The title doesn’t matter. What matters is if the personnel executive would have final say on personnel or not. If they would, then other teams’ couldn’t block. That won’t be the case here, so other teams can block.
The only thing an organisation can block for is lateral moves, they cant block for promotions.
For an coach it only means to HC (OC and DC is lateral move even if you are a defensive quality control guy), for FO people, I would think GM title (no matter what it has of specifics) would be promotion.
Take the Cowboys, Jason Garrett or any other new coach in a few years is just a puppet (everybody knows Linehan and Marinelli is the once during all the work), but teams still couldnt block candidates
The Cowboys couldn’t block on their candidates because their contracts we’re up. If they’re contract isn’t up, the only positions teams can’t block is to Head Coach or for a GM that has final say on personnel. They can block for any other “promotion.”
In the 1974 draft, Chuck Noll wanted to draft John Stallworth in the first round. The GM, whose name is forgotten, insisted that Lynn Swann must be drafted because he was from USC and wouldn’t last until the 2nd round, while Stallworth was from a small school and wouldn’t be a high priority to other teams. The GM was right. Of course, both are in the HoF now.
Every Eagles blog reader loves to hear Steelers anecdotes.
I agree with you, it’s not about the title, it’s about the level of perceived power. On both the level of interest, from candidates and also on their ability to be allowed to interview ( for a non GM role ) with the Eagles. The ” Chip Kelly has FINAL say ” stuff, is not helping the search / hiring of a top tier candidate. What do you think about the NY Giants ( vice president of player evaluation ) Marc Ross ? He is currently two ( 2 ) positions below ( the NY Giants GM – Jerry Reese ) and he does / knows everything that the Eagles need in their candidate search. I don’t know if he would even be interested ( he started scouting with the Eagles and worked for them from 1997 to 2002. ) I also don’t know if the Giants ( would / could ) allow him to interview for the job either. He is basically the Giants GM right hand man, and does all the footwork for him. He has run their draft board for the last two years, and is equal to or more qualified than Gaines or Fitterer. He went to Princeton university and is originally from Pennsylvania. One bonus is that if he did join the Eagles, he wouldn’t have to uproot his family, because it would not be a difficult commute from the Novacare complex to his current home.
It’s not like the Eagles are the first team in the history of the NFL to use this system!
Sorry, I keyed into the last sentence and didn’t answer about Fitterer specifically. I don’t know what Kelly is thinking but I’ve read that it’s believed that Kelly wants someone more experienced.
Tommy lawlor quote – ” The Eagles can simply promote Ed Marynowitz if they think he’s the answer. I think he could do a good job. ” – End quote. Why ? Why does he think Marynowitz would do a good job ? What are Marynowitz qualifications ? Please explain. How on gods earth does Marynowitz compare to ( Eliot Wolf – Brian Gaine – Scott Fitterer – Marc Ross ? ) Answer he doesn’t. I’ll play devils advocate – ” Oh It doesn’t matter anyway …… Chip Kelly has final say. ” Wrong, it matters BIG TIME ! Ask Pete Carol if John Schneider ( Seahawks GM ) ” matters “, to the success of the Seahawks ?
You really feel strongly about this. It’s almost like he stole your lunch money all those years ago… LOL, just kidding. 🙂
I can only go by what I’m seeing, but I think if he’s the guy, they would’ve given him the position already. So either they are waiting for a guy on one of the four teams today, or Kelly is going to hire this guy sometime soon.
No ( that’s ” mildly ” funny though ) but, It does bother me, because people are just repeating the Marynowitz stuff with zero justification. No it’s not life or death but it just gets me going. I have had to ( as a huge Eagles fan ) watch year after year, as really good, qualified personnel people got let go, or fired ( or passed over ) while unqualified / inexperienced people moved up the ladder within the Eagles player personnel department. Their is FINALLY a vacancy within the organization for a great football guy, and I don’t want to see this opportunity get wasted.
Me either. It’s interesting that Gamble nor Roseman have had any interest in their services from other teams. If Roseman isn’t the guy and he’s not that good, why keep him around? That’s a lot of money to pay for a cap expert.
Good point, but think about this, from the time Jeff Lurie bought the Eagles, he has relied on his ” money ” guys to assist him. His confidants have always been the ( money people ) not the ( football people. ) He went directly from Banner to Roseman. He would be lost without his cronies. Lurie was never a business man, he was given ( a family loan ) hundreds of millions of dollars by his ( mom / uncle ) as a investment to buy the Eagles. He NEVER had to BUILD / RUN a business of his own, to acquire the great wealth that it took to but the Eagles. Therefore he never had, nor ever developed the ability to ( RUN ) a business. That’s where his ” money ” guys came in. That’s why Roseman was basically ( bought off ) to stay with the organization and be Luries employee / buddy. In a way, it’s sad. In any other properly functioning business Lurie would have parted way with Roseman. Not only because his services ( were / are ) no longer needed ( see – Jake Rosenberg – football admin. – ie – salary cap ) but his continued employment would be ( is ) a continued strain on other employees and their working relationships.
Most of the time player personnel people gather at the Senior Bowl and Combine to look for employment opportunities. Gamble may pop up at one of these events. As for Roseman, he would have never gotten a GM job with any other owner / organization in the NFL. I do however believe that he has one BAD taste in his mouth from being ( promoted. ) I can assure you that his ” DREAM ” of being a NFL GM, has not diminished and he has already developed a ( mental ) game plan for his return to the big leagues in the NFL. The possibility of this happening is remote and highly unlikely.
People repeat every kind of putdowns against various Eagles without justification all the time!
Oh, ok.
I think how you view Marynowitz depends on how much stock you put into the importance of his job as director of player personnel with Alabama. On the college level, that’s a big time job and he helped stock them with a lot of talent. Obviously he doesn’t have a lengthy background in the NFL specifically.
Not trying to diminish his efforts at Alabama, but do you really think that it was so hard for him to get recruits ( high school kids ) to come join one of the top 5 programs, in all of college football ? He probably had 25 players to sort through to fill each position. It seems to me that the difference between the two, is like the difference between chess and checkers. Also, it is not just about doing the job. There is a departmental dynamic that is never discussed. There are people that have been working for the Eagles for 5 , 7 , 9 years before Marynowitz even got hired. There are people working there that were scouting college players 15 years ago. Why does he get promoted over them ? Do they then become disgruntled employees, if you promote him over them. I would assume so. Now you have alienated 2 , 3 maybe 4 employees just to promote this guy ? And he isn’t even a top tier ( NFL ) candidate for the job. Is it worth it ? Bringing in a guy ( who is very experienced and qualified with a much higher title ) from the another team, would be much easier for the other people working within the player personnel department to accept. I would assume going forward, that after the ( Kelly / Roseman ) drama, the Eagles organization could use as much front office harmony, as they can get at this time.
bc at the end of the day chip kelly is a czar he just need someone to manage – who understands the process and shares his vision
My issue is they DO NOT need him to be a player personnel czar, they need him to be the czar of coaching the team. If he hires someone with a lot of experience, Kelly can relax and let him run the player personnel department, and in turn Chip can focus on coaching. It is impossible ( in the current NFL ) to be a great ( GM ) and a great ( head coach ) at the same time. There is not enough time in the day to do both. Most coaches burn themselves out just doing the ” coach ” stuff, let alone trying to be the ” CZAR ‘ of ALL football matters. People falsely get caught up in this ” final say ” stuff. There is a ton of work to be done, ( by a lot of people ) before the information gets to Kelly, for him to give that – final say. Someone has to organize all of the work to be done – assign who does what – make sure it’s getting done – separate and quantify the information – submit it to Kelly, etc., etc. Regardless of what some people say about the position, it is a extremely important position within the Eagles organization.
I don’t disagree with a word that you’re saying. But i’m saying for this year, chip is making the decisions.
How is the other guys qualifications good enough outside of just been a bunch of names unless you know how those organisations inside and out?
Turned the game off for a while because it felt like a foregone conclusion. At least I called 1 out of 2 blowouts correctly.
Across the board New England is more talented at every position, on offense and defense, except maybe a couple. The only spots I would give strait up to Indy are WR1 with TY Hilton (and even that’s not by far ahead of Edelman) and maybe an OL spot or two. Otherwise NE is superior in talent at every spot, plus they are far better coached than Indy.
Luck is a 2nd tier quarterback and he stinks up the joint every time against New England, so that doesn’t help.
11/32 for 132 and 2 picks. That’s just pitiful. At least Wilson made some good throws at the end to save the day, Luck has been awful the whole way through. Mark Sanchez thinks you had a bad day today Luck.
I said it last year and I think it’s true this year too, Indianapolis needs to completely retool their coaching staff and roster. They simply aren’t competitive against top tier championship contenders. Keep Luck and a couple other young pieces but the rest can be completely overhauled.
no running game makes it rough when a qb has an off day.
If you’re gonna be that top tier guy, you have to be able to carry the team even when the run isn’t working. Luck isn’t that guy in my opinion. He’s a 2nd tier guy and you can win with him, but he’s not in the same conversation with the top tier guys.
GTFOH. What game were they playing today? That’s the AFC championship game. Who is their running back? He’s been carrying that team the whole year, especially since bradshaw went down. He killed the whole broncos defense last week — he got that whole coaching staff fired.
Unfortunately they’re treating him the same way the treated peyton.
I don’t see it man. Maybe I’m just seeing all the wrong games from him but everytime I see him I see talented but erratic, and prone to getting murdered by New England.
What if Luck gets tired of it and comes to Philly after his 5 years are up…….. *mind *blown
No, no, Luck’s one of the great quarterbacks of all time, everyone says so.
I know you’re mocking someone here, I just don’t know who lol.
Haha, it’s just always irked me how he was anointed the Chosen One before really performing like one.
I’m not saying he won’t improve, but they should at least wait until then before saying he’s one of the greats!
I kind of felt the same about him. I always heard people talk about how good he was but whenever I watched him I saw a talented but erratic QB.
And his play against New England has officially graduated to becoming a trend. It’s like the curse of Peyton lives on in him.
Brady will be gone soon enough.
umm he’s playing in the NFC champsionship. And he’s not playing with the legion of boom, or even a 1000 yd rusher. He also happens to lead the league in TDs.
He’s also authored the biggest comeback in playoff history last year. With trent richardson. The hateration is crazy.
He’s also managed to shit the bed in a big way in multiple playoff games. I think he’s good but he’s not a top tier guy.
ok. so who, then is a good qb? b/c there’s not anyone that’s winning alll the time, especially not with that supporting cast.
Nobody because only looking at playoffs make the trio of Mark Sanchez, Eli Manning and Joe Flacco among the elites.
He was also a big reason why they were in that hole. Luckily they were playing against Andy Reid and not Belichick in that game…
AFC, but otherwise right on.
I don’t think the Colts have known what to offensively since Peyton Manning left.
A below average offensive line.
Above average but not great receiving corps.
No run game.
No member of the front 7 that would start in Philly.
Good but not great DB’s.
And they made it to the AFC Championship game.
Was that revis with the pick late in the 3rd quarter? you think he’s earning that $11m this year?
Someone is giving him 3 years 35-40 mil
I think if we were going to give 1 player a big deal in FA we could do worse than Revis at that price.
especially in the division. Let him cover garçon, double djax. Let him cover ODB (giants really don’t have anyone else), let him cover dez, double everyone else
I wish I could take credit for the following but it comes from a guy with the tag AreaMan over at Philly.com.
“Based on the game I just watched. One coach had 4th and goal inside the 1 and kicked field goals each time. The other coach had a 4th and 10 at the 19 and ran a fake field goal.
Do you know what you need to win a Super Bowl?
A big set of balls!”
I saw that quote, and he’s right.
I just caught up on all the comments and my commentator award of the day goes to SteveH for making me laugh by consistently hammering that guy who caught the interception and took a dive with what looked like 20 yards of open field in front of him. When that happened I thought wtf?!?
My other comment is from the beginning I was texting a friend saying how do you kick fg’s twice from inside your 5 on 4th and one. Belicheat, Carroll, Sean Payton, Chip etc. don’t do that. It’s math at this point (with all the research), not “gut” feelings. GB has one of the best OL in the league. It kills me to read how McCarthy is such a good coach for figuring out how to use the best QB in the game.
At least someone appreciates my mad genius. And how stupid Morgan Burnett is.
if I remember he had a lead blocker (another DB) right next to him too. I can’t wait to see a gif or still photo from a reporter who follows up on this. Maybe Kempski will.
Sadly with all the other shit that went wrong for Green Bay that moment will get lost in the shuffle, but IMO he has a chance to actually seal the game for good if he tries to return that. Looked like at a minimum he’s taking it to near field goal range, possibly all the way to the house.
I should add that he absolutely deserves extra kick in the balls points for what he did though, because it was not a question of skill or effort, but simply hubris. He thought the game was sealed because of what he did and it wasn’t even close to that.
someone will report on this, and one of us will post a link in the current Iggles Blitz comment section.
here is video
ttp://heavy.com/sports/2015/01/watch-morgan-burnett-intercepts-russel-wislon-vine-video/
no one is in the screen. Curiously, 58 on the Pack (enters screen on the right) has his hand out as if telling Morgan to get down.
Rooting for NE is like rooting for the Borg, if the Borg was much more evil.
The neighborhood SB party I’m attending will be tough.
I can’t really root for either team, but on the bright side at least one team I don’t like will lose.
If I had to choose one I’d probably pick Seattle to root for. Despite a couple ugly games against them over the years I can’t quite bring myself to feel like they’re a rival. And as you said, if the Borg was much more evil…
I’ll be rooting for New England because I can’t stand Richard Sherman and want to see Brady shut him up.
Have to respect Belichick too. The man is a great coach and what he’s done with the Patriots is arguably the best job of organization building anybody’s ever done in the NFL. And unlike Lombardi with the Packers, Walsh with the 49ers, Paul Brown with the Browns, etc. he’s done it in the era of free agency. Just incredible.
So I wasn’t here during the GB Seattle game and I thought I was the only one who thought about the int victory kneel. Good job, SteveH, I’ll go back sometime and check it. It should be one of the top goofs along with the onsides and the conservative coaching .The guy who missed the onsides kick, he missed it, the coach who didn’t go for it when he had a chance to bring the hammer down, no balls, the guy who intercepts a ball, kneels, with a lot of room to run only up by 12 and would’ve no doubt to put them in position to score without making a yard with a little over 5 minutes left: MORON!
video
ttp://heavy.com/sports/2015/01/watch-morgan-burnett-intercepts-russel-wislon-vine-video/
is the GB player who enters screen on the right telling Morgan to get down?
I can’t get it to load on firefox or chrome, but I don’t doubt you, so that makes more than one moron out there. And even the announcer, Buck or Aikman, I don’t remember, they were saying after the int, “and then he slid down which was a good idea.” What am I missing here? The overhead shot, and the game film people will be able to discuss that, if they decide to.
the LOS is about the Seattle 40, Morgan ends up sliding around the GB 44. He looks to have a LOT of room, and if he continues to the sidelines the big fatties might not beat him there.
I wonder if we will find out that the GB player with his arm out is telling Morgan to get down. With how conservative McCarthy coached, wouldn’t surprise me if he told them if there is a TO, get down.
Playoffs? Exceptional elite teams? EVERY. BODY. MAKES. MISTAKES.
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Could it be possible that they hire the GM late while doing the scouting themselves so that when the draft approaches, this will show the new GM what CK and the Eagles want in drafting players and absolve him of any good or bad draft the Eagles make for this year?