Herremans Out

Posted: February 26th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 567 Comments »

The ugly side of pro football.

Herremans struggled with the move to RG in 2013, but played much better in 2014. Unfortunately he got hurt and missed the final 8 games of the year. He will turn 33 in October and the Eagles felt it was time to move on.

Herremans played 10 years for the Eagles. He was never a star, but was a very good offensive lineman who played LG, RT and RG. He played a few games at LT, but was never a regular starter there.

I wrote something about Todd for an old PE.com piece on player development.

Back in 2005, I remember reading NFL.com one day to see what Gil Brandt was reporting about pro day activity. He mentioned that a lineman from Saginaw Valley State had drawn quite a few offensive line coaches to his workout, as well as the normal contingent of scouts. The coaches and scouts came away raving about the prospect’s footwork and overall potential. The player was some guy named Todd Herremans. I’d never heard of him. I didn’t have any game tape of him from the season, but did have a copy of the Division II all-star game called the Cactus Bowl.

Herremans played in the Cactus Bowl and I was excited to pop it in and take a look. I watched the game and took some notes. I came away impressed, but noted that Herremans had zero chance to play left tackle in the NFL. He was beaten a couple of times by pass rushers in that game. If a guy can’t block rushers coming from D-2 schools like West Virginia Wesleyan, Colorado School of Mines or Eastern New Mexico, how the heck is he going to have any chance against NFL rushers? I was so focused on results that I lost track of watching Herremans’ raw ability.

I went up to training camp at Lehigh a few months later to watch the team practice. I looked out on the field and was shocked to see Herremans at left tackle with the starters. To quote the great Vince Lombardi, “What the hell is going on out there?” Tra Thomas wasn’t healthy so Juan Castillo had to put a backup on the field. He decided that Herremans was the next best fit. That really blew me away. Herremans got beat a few times, but held his own for the most part. How was it that the guy who gave up sacks in the Cactus Bowl could now function as a left tackle in the NFL?


Herremans had the raw tools. He was big and pretty athletic. He did have good feet. He was experienced, so he had a solid understanding of blocking concepts. Herremans was smart and coachable. Castillo was able to teach Herremans the Eagles’ blocking system and the specific techniques needed to make it work. I learned a valuable lesson that day up at Lehigh. Don’t underestimate the importance of coaching.

A bit more nostalgia. Here is something I wrote on him after the Eagles drafted Herremans.

Interesting RT prospect. A lot of people don’t remember this, but Jon Runyan was a 4th Rd pick himself. He was 6’7, 310 and ran in the 5.25 range. We can only hope that Todd develops into the kind of player Runyan became. Todd has a similar description to Jon’s when he came out. Good run blocker. Needs some work on pass protection. Herremans has good feet. He moves well and does a good job of keeping his feet active. Bends his knees, but needs to be more consistent about it. Can mirror DEs. Does have trouble with inside moves. That’s something that needs work. Does a good job of extending his arms to keep DL from getting to his body. Will ride a DE wide of the QB. Shows a feisty side. Caught a DE off balance and slung him to the ground. Does a good job of blocking LBs in the run game. Not likely to see much playing time this year. Has the raw physical ability to be an NFL RT. Should get good coaching from Juan Castillo and will be given time to develop.

6’6, 321…5.13 in the 40

Son of a HS Coach. Played basketball and baseball for 4 years in HS. 2 time all conference. Started 40 of 48 college games.

Old Notes: We’ve been mentioned as a team interested in Todd. Some projections have said that he could go as high as 3rd Rd. I’m thinking more in the 5th.

Cactus Bowl Notes: I saw him in a Div. II all star game. Played RT and LT. Didn’t look comfortable at LT. Did look right at home at RT. Comes off the ball very well. Very good job of getting to the 2nd level and taking out LBs. I’ve read he has “great feet”. Can’t say I saw that. Good feet. He needs work at handling edge rushers. Lots of upside. 

Enough looking back…let’s look ahead.

What happens at RG? Allen Barbre, Matt Tobin and Andrew Gardner could take over the spot for 2015. Barbre is the best of the trio, but is an older player. There is something to be said for giving Tobin a full-time shot at the job. He is a good run blocker, but needs work on his pass protection.

The Eagles could go after someone in free agency, but that seems unlikely with a lot of money already going to the OL. They could take an OL early in the draft. They were likely to take an OL or two in the draft anyway. Now, the rookie would have a chance to compete for a starting job.

As for Herremans, he will get a chance to play with another team. Please let him go anywhere outside the NFC East so I can enjoy seeing him with his new team.


567 Comments on “Herremans Out”

  1. 1 Baloophi said at 12:40 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I managed to grab this shot of Todd leaving town in his van…

  2. 2 Greg Richards said at 12:43 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I’ve mentioned this before and it’s basically tooting my own horn but it’s a fond memory for me regarding Herremanns:

    I had read the same info on Herremanns in the days leading up to the draft. I was conversing with fans on the Eagles’ message board and most of those guys aren’t the most knowledgeable Eagles guys on the planet and had no clue who Herremans was. I thought the Eagles were looking for OL help and when our 4th round pick rolled around I also thought we’d be trading down for more picks so I randomly threw out pre-pick “The Eagles will trade down and then take Saginaw Valley State OT Todd Herremanns”. Basically, pulling something out of my ass. Then it happened! Made a lot of those guys think I was a lot smarter than I actually am.

  3. 3 Baloophi said at 12:49 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Hey! I was one of those “not the most knowledgeable Eagles guys on the planet” on the EMB. Now I’m proud to say that I’m not the most knowledgeable Eagles guy on the planet on this site!

  4. 4 ACViking said at 3:04 PM on February 26th, 2015:


    “The total tonnage of what you don’t know is enough to shatter . . . .”


  5. 5 Baloophi said at 3:07 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    It’s enough to make me want to run away to Bolivia…

  6. 6 ACViking said at 4:23 PM on February 26th, 2015:


    On the other hand, that was too easy.

    You see that I’m right.

  7. 7 Magmafromthedepths said at 2:52 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Butch? Sundance?

  8. 8 Greg Richards said at 3:44 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Oops, sorry. In comparison though, I have to say that the posters here are a lot more intelligent than the average EMB poster. That’s not to say everyone there is bad. It’s just that you have to sift through a lot more idiocy to find the quality posts.

  9. 9 laeagle said at 4:28 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    me too. Glad to say I haven’t gotten any more knowledgeable. I just know who to quote to make me seem smart.

  10. 10 TommyLawlor said at 2:46 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Greg, I sure can’t imagine many other fans out there do the amount of research you do.

  11. 11 Greg Richards said at 3:43 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    For some things, I do a lot of research. I’m a mock draft guy. I make every attempt to make my mocks as accurate as possible. To do it right in my mind, that’s knowing the schemes the teams run, what teams have shown interest in what player(which is now essentially tabulated at walterfootball.com and can be found by a twitter search – used to take more effort), and knowing the future FAs and cap status(and possible cap casualties) of a team at least a year out so you can project future needs. Through all that effort, my mock drafts in the past(haven’t devoted the effort the past few years) have been more accurate than most. As in maybe being 20% right to the average 15%. The thing is I’m totally not a draft guy. I watch very little college football and in the past I didn’t think much could be learned from highlights. Now that all-22 film is available online in a lot of cases, it’d be possible to do more detailed research, but I leave that to others. I’m best at doing a lot of research on various opinions on players and then being able to figure out which players might fit with certain teams. I’m also relatively good at being able to pick players that will go higher than most think pre-draft.

  12. 12 bdbd20 said at 12:45 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Hopefully he can sign on with a good team and get himself a ring.

    I’d love to see him back doing some post-game stuff with Dave.

  13. 13 Bert's Bells said at 12:54 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    “Hopefully he can sign on with a good team and get himself a ring.”

    You’re thinking the Eagles re-sign him?

  14. 14 LookLikeTarzanPlayLikeTarzanAl said at 10:58 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    i have a hard time wishing for guys to win rings once they leave. I reserve that kind of admiration for the greats, Dawk, AI, Charles, Todd was a great pro, can’t ask for much more from a player….I hope he gets paid! How’s that?

  15. 15 Baloophi said at 12:46 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Fare-thee-well Toddfather. He gave us many many years of solid service.

    So that we’re not “forced” to reach for an interior lineman during the draft, I wonder if we’ll sign a journeyman, Barbre-type free agent who can serve as a band-aid. Obviously it’d be great to find someone in the draft but having a serviceable vet ready to go might help prevent any temptation to repeat the Danny Watkins Experience.

  16. 16 Jason said at 1:42 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    “Danny Watkins Experience” — Philly area band that forms in 2017.

  17. 17 Baloophi said at 2:52 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    On board. The “Danny Watkins Experience” will only play covers with a firefighting twist:

    “Extinguish My Fire” – The Doors
    “We Definitely Didn’t Start the Fire” – Billy Joel
    “Unattended Candle in the Wind” – Elton John
    “Backdraft in Black” – AC/DC
    “Fire and High-Expansion Class-A Foam” – James Taylor
    “Not Eternal Flame” – The Bangles
    “Who Let the Dalmations Out” – Baha Men
    “Flashover the Rainbow” – Judy Garland
    “Ring of Fire (Controlled Burn)” – Johnny Cash
    “Smoke Gets in Your Eyes Without an NFPA-approved Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus” – The Platters
    “Electrical Fire Avenue” – Eddy Grant
    “Cat’s in the Cradle, No Wait Stuck in a Tree” – Harry Chapin
    “The Heat Exhaustion is On” – Glenn Frey

  18. 18 Jason said at 3:20 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    “Changing of the Guards” – Bob Dylan (1978)

  19. 19 76mustang said at 4:44 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    “(Hunka, Hunka) Soggy Love” – Elvis

  20. 20 Magmafromthedepths said at 10:35 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Excellent, although I would have liked to see something about “Disco Inferno”.

  21. 21 D3FB said at 1:47 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I hope he takes that super creepy rape/weed van to Denver and he and Peyton forget all their troubles for a while… so they can contend for one last shot at glory.

  22. 22 Kelce's Beard said at 12:50 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    the Eagles Players’ Hot GF and Wives club took a big hit today.

    We’ll miss you ToddFather

  23. 23 Anders said at 12:58 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    "the reason they made the changes now is to correct what went wrong last year" – Spadaro. "howie roseman ran the draft" – Spadaro— philatticus (@Philatticus) 26. februar 2015

    Spuds is on the radio and he apparently said this.

  24. 24 Dominik said at 1:02 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Spuds knows who’s running the show right now…

  25. 25 eagleyankfan said at 2:28 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    doesn’t everyone know?

  26. 26 eagleyankfan said at 1:59 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    what went wrong last year?

  27. 27 Anders said at 2:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Well Kelly wanted Jordan Matthews in the 1st.

    We also missed out on our top 6 players and maybe Howie adviced Kelly not to trade up because he thought 1 would be there.

  28. 28 eagleyankfan said at 2:27 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    that’s a crime — if you really really want someone and he’s only a few positions ahead of you, no reason not to trade for him. (assuming of course — maybe they did try to trade up). Theres really no way for us know 100% what happened.
    we still got JM so someone was right about him being there in the 2nd.

  29. 29 Anders said at 2:36 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    The Saints used a 3rd to jump from 27th to 21st to take Cooks who was the the 2nd last guy on the wanted 6 list. So we could have traded up

  30. 30 D3FB said at 1:45 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yep, trading up would = MSII, Huff, Watkins, Reynolds.

  31. 31 Anders said at 3:14 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I would honestly trade Ha Ha Clinton Dix for those 4 (and I would have done it before the draft as well)

  32. 32 mksp said at 2:49 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    We didn’t draft Teddy Bridgewater.

  33. 33 RobNE said at 3:48 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    you think it was too easy for Kelly his first year?

  34. 34 ACViking said at 2:36 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Spadaro’s a water carrier.

    The “Roseman ran the draft” sounds like the line coming out of NovaCare after Reid’s firing that Roseman ran the 2012 draft, which went well — but not 201, which was crap.

    Corporate party line by Spadaro.

  35. 35 Anders said at 2:37 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Its 100% directed by the Novacare, but this is their way to answer why Kelly got power without having Kelly do a PC.

  36. 36 Ark87 said at 2:54 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    or at the very least spin what could viewed as conciliatory move to appease Chip into the view that there was a problem that got fixed.

  37. 37 Insomniac said at 1:20 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Wow. I didn’t expect the Toddfather to be cut this year. Hopefully he retires and puts his health first. He’s been banged up for too long to play for a cheap contract.

  38. 38 Anders said at 1:21 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Some teams will pay Todd, like the Chiefs, Bucs and Colts.

  39. 39 Baloophi said at 1:22 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Great call on the Chiefs…

  40. 40 Anders said at 1:23 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I do think Colts are more likely because of cap space and they need to protect Andrew Luck

  41. 41 Insomniac said at 1:24 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Chiefs won’t really have any money when they tag/sign Houston. I could see the Colts though.

  42. 42 Insomniac said at 1:32 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I’m not thrilled with the OL depth. We have average depth players but not someone who will anchor one of the OG positions after Mathis is gone/retires.

    Possible OL targets

    La’el Collins
    TJ Clemmings
    Cameron Erving
    Jake Fisher
    Ereck Flowers
    Ty Sambrailo
    DJ Humpries
    Ali Marpet
    Jarvis Harrison

  43. 43 ACViking said at 3:01 PM on February 26th, 2015:


    How many of these guys fit what Kelly’s scheme requires of O-linemen?

    I’m not sure what those requirements are.

    Certainly welcome some input — and then reconsideration of the guys on your list.

  44. 44 Insomniac said at 3:34 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Personally, I don’t know what Chip wants in OL since the OL is still a mixed bag in terms of size/athleticism.

    I think all of these guys meet the size/athleticism standpoint for our zone blocking scheme. They can get to the second level if asked to. With the exception of Marpet/Harrison, all of these guys were LT/RT for their teams.

  45. 45 D3FB said at 1:41 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Marpet played LT for Hobart.

    All the non centers are 6’4 or taller.
    All may not run well but have decent footwork and can at least move to the second level with ease.

  46. 46 Magmafromthedepths said at 10:40 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    At least one attribute would seem to be the ability to get waaay downfield and block for wide receivers or at least running backs who break one for many yards.

  47. 47 Richaud Jeaffreson said at 4:17 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    What bout Shaq Mason? That guy is a bull, and he came from a similar offense in GA Tech.

  48. 48 Insomniac said at 5:04 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    He’s short for the position and I think Chip wants a big more length.

  49. 49 D3FB said at 1:39 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Similar offense? The flexbone triple option?

    The Air Raid is the only offense that could be further from the flexbone. The flexbone triple option and our shotgun spread zone are night and day different. You could show Bear Bryant GA Tech’s offense and he would be cool with it. Our offense would cause his head to explode.

  50. 50 Richaud Jeaffreson said at 4:59 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Similar in that it is run heavy, and a zone blocking scheme.

  51. 51 D3FB said at 5:23 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I mean I guess they play the game with shoulder pads and a helmet too, but they are worlds apart.

    -Techniques taught to the OL are drastically different.
    -We pass a hell of alot more than 15 times a game. (Our run/pass last year was 42/58)
    -Their OL only cares about vertical push immediately, for us sustained blocks is most important, lateral movement works as well as vertical.
    -Outside of goalline packages you’ll never see our offensive line have flat backs or a center in a 4 point stance.

    There would be very minimal carry over for Mason.

  52. 52 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:50 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Thanks…I was going to add in the discussion but Paul Johnson does not run a similar offense to what Chip Kelly…..sure we like to run the ball as does Paul Johnson but you can say that about any offensive scheme out there…..In watching how the offenses execute…I would say that the triple option is a run heavy offense which creates confusion as to whom is going to run the ball…..with the Oregon offense…the use of packaged plays leads confusion as to whether we are going to pass or run the ball…..we could go even deeper but I agree that these two offenses are on other sides of the spectrum from each other…..

  53. 53 Sean Stott said at 1:43 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Are we sure they won’t just re-sign him?

  54. 54 Ark87 said at 1:45 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Because we took a salary cap hit of 2.8 M, we’d have to be thinking about signing him at Vet minimum (just shy of 1M for a 10 year vet). Thought the same thing, but the math says it’s unlikely.

  55. 55 T_S_O_P said at 1:56 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I’ll be looking for a #79 jersey to say thanks, and that he goes to KC or Baltimore for the connections

  56. 56 GermanEagle said at 2:02 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Sad to see the Toddfather go.

    Let’s hope we will soon see some nicer news, starting with the re-signing of Maclin followed by the re-structuring of Trent Cole.

  57. 57 unhinged said at 2:10 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I have done my fair and unfair share of trashing Andy Reid on this site and others, but thinking of TH reminds me that AR did do some things right when he was here. “Early draft picks on the line of scrimmage” could have been AR’s mantra, and I think he avoided many embarrassments by following that pretty closely. TH was not an early pick, but a great value in the 4th round. If we can get that kind of value this year and next, we’ll be doing very well.

  58. 58 Baloophi said at 3:06 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    “Trashing” isn’t always a bad thing…

  59. 59 Ark87 said at 3:22 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    watch out, rubbermaid sent Tommy some emails about us using the trash-lords image in vain.

  60. 60 Baloophi said at 3:31 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    They represent the fundamental sect of the household container industry.

  61. 61 BobSmith77 said at 2:28 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Not much of a surprise. I thought Herremans didn’t play well the last 2 years and with his salary cap number was a pretty straightforward decision on releasing him.

    Secondary is an obvious concern but given how much this offense scheme relies upon the OL I really hope they address that this offseason too. Peters seemed like he started to slip a bit last year, Kelce has missed meaningful portions of 2 of the last 3 seasons, and Mathis is getting a bit long in the tooth. Depth they had last year too got pretty badly exposed when they did need to play too.

  62. 62 Javi Echie said at 2:36 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Peters still has a solid 2-3 years left in him of pro bowl caliber play. His play didn’t slip this year, the only problem with him this years was that he had too many penalties. Besides that he started every game and was his usual self.

    Mathis I would say also has a solid 2-3 years left being that he doesn’t have the normal wear and tear mileage of a 33 year old o-lineman.

    Kelce must stay healthy I agree with that but when he is healthy he is a top center.

    We absolutely need to draft a starting quality o-lineman early that can either 1) start right away, 2)or be a top reserve that can be counted on to make spot starts, or 3) one that will be ready to step right in year 2.

  63. 63 ACViking said at 2:30 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Re: Re-Sign Herremans?

    Ark 87/Sean Scott wondered:

    With Birds taking a $2.8M hit on the cap, what about resigning TH to a vet-min contract?

    [Ark 87 notes the min contract would still count against the cap.]

    The Birds and TH may have mutually agreed to let him look around to see if he can get a better deal than he’d get here.

    If nothing happens, maybe TH comes back.

    Or not.

    Certainly opens a spot for Jake Fisher — who’s just not gonna be there at the Birds pick (52) in Rd 2.

  64. 64 Ark87 said at 3:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    The way I see it is you cut Herremans for one of 2 reasons:
    1. Either you did it to save money by cutting him and not replacing him (let Tobin, Barbre, gardner, and possible a rookie battle it out for his spot). Or possibly letting him do the rounds and possible signing him for vet minimum or not much more than that for nominal savings.

    2. You felt the need to improve that position, you’re willing to take the cap hit and pay someone else to replace him (probably end up spending more on the position than we would have if we just kept him). Possibly that the Eagles don’t think he is coming back to full health or is just in full decline and it’s imperative to start the replacement process.

    My guess is we are just looking to move on, start the process of turning over the old O-line at the spot where age was showing the most. It was probably largly about the money and hoping one of the guys we already have (or are about to draft) is an improvement.

  65. 65 wee2424 said at 4:14 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I just dont see them having faith in Tobin or Gardner. Maybe im wrong, but Kelly truely.values his Oline. He wouldnt cut Herremans if he didnt have a player in mind that is better. I really think there is going to be some kind of decent FA splash at G.

  66. 66 Ark87 said at 4:42 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Traditionally I’d disagree with you, that there would be no way we would invest heavily at the RG position, a marginal position. But this scheme lives and dies on the run, cleanly taking a defensive lineman out of the play (with a double team) and moving to the next level to clobber a linebacker is the key factor in making our run game consistent with an explosive element. If Chip feels that a weak link is disrupting our run game, it is hurting the whole offense. So it’s definitely possible we get active on the FA O-line game.

  67. 67 GEAGLE said at 5:39 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    damn offense has too much effect on our defense, and the damn OL has to much effect on the offense, so in order for the defense to improve as much as I would like, i need them to have an elite OL, so that maybe the offense wont put as much stress on our D giving them a chance to be successful

  68. 68 wee2424 said at 8:19 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Yup. If it werent Chip and this style of O i would think otherwise but thats not the case. Agree 100%, you hit the nail on the head.

  69. 69 ACViking said at 4:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Thoughtful, excellent breakdown.

  70. 70 Joe Minx said at 2:32 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Rwords dumping Brandon Merriweather. I care nothing for him, just passing it along because my hot beat reporter crush fantasy (aka Dianna Marie Russini) tweeted it.

  71. 71 Greg Richards said at 3:35 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Sorry, at least in this forum, I already claimed dibs.

  72. 72 ICDogg said at 2:49 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Heard Denver OL Orlando Franklin's name mentioned today. Eagles OL coach Jeff Stoutland was Franklin's position coach at Miami all 4 years.— Zach Berman (@ZBerm) February 26, 2015

  73. 73 ACViking said at 2:59 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    What about James Carpenter?

    Stoutland had him his senior season at ‘bama.

    The question I have for someone more familiar with both is, which one of them is more like Evan Mathis in terms of quickness, 2nd-level ability, strength in 1-on-1 battles . . . and whatever else matters to Kelly?

  74. 74 Greg Richards said at 3:34 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Carpenter is more of a mauler, a better fit for man-blocking schems. Franklin is big, but he has some athleticism. Franklin has played T as well as guard. Carpenter, in the pros at least, is strictly a guard.

  75. 75 GEAGLE said at 6:05 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    i dont worry about carpenter because both Marynowitz and stoutland were with him at Bamma, so they will know if he is someone we can be interested in or not… cant think of how different the blocking schemes are that seattle uses when they run their zone reads compared to our OL schemes when we run ours… Ill take a look at seattles line this weekend..
    one things is Carpenter is a big boy who was n his way to being a 1st round bust til he recently started to get it together,, I feel like you need Offensive lineman who are over achievers to be able to play at our tempo… I probably worry more about Carpenter playing at our insane tempo, then i do about his lack of ideal athleticism… wish Kyle long didnt go in round 1 so his contract would expire after 4 years instead of 5… tho if John Fox can change that culture and get thebears on the right track it will be hard to poach Kyle even with Chip here, taylor hart, huff, possibly Fisher/grasu

  76. 76 D3FB said at 1:30 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    0% chance in hell we target James Carpenter. Slow feet, can’t move in space, struggles staying in shape, phone booth offensive linemen. Anyone who thinks we are going to have interest is extremely wrong, and it holds about as much validity as saying we are going to target a 45 year old LB because Chip Kelly was his defensive coordinator at Johns Hopkins for a year in ’93.

  77. 77 eagleyankfan said at 2:51 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    speaking of trolling — the latest about Eagles/Redskins trade — if that isn’t a troll article — nothing is…

    http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/major-trade-coming-between-redskins-and-eagles-marcus-mariota-rg3-chip-kelly-nfl-draft?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo (I’m not use to posting links)

  78. 78 ACViking said at 2:57 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Is it by Kempski?

  79. 79 eagleyankfan said at 2:58 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    no…I added the link above…

  80. 80 ACViking said at 3:00 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  81. 81 ACViking said at 2:53 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Re: Free Agent v. Rookie Gs

    Who’s hitting the market, and in the draft, at guard who fits the profile of what Kelly wants in his O-linemen?

    Anyone care to
    (a) list what characteristics Kelly wants in his O-linemen,
    (b) explain why they matter in his scheme,
    (c) list the available FAs — versus who the Eagles have on their roster — who fit the description,
    (d) list potential draft targets, and
    (e) argue for FA signing vs. Roster Incumbent vs. Rookie pick.

    Jake Fisher wins hands down (GEagle’s been on him since September). But the “WHY” would be good to know.

    Helpful answers may make talking about Kelly’s possible next steps a more informed discussion.

    There’s are lots of really knowledgeable commenters here. Please help the rest of us out.

    T-Law and Belichick can’t carry all the water.

  82. 82 Insomniac said at 3:39 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Good feet and agility, 300+ pounds

    This explains zone blocking way better than I can but it’s very long


  83. 83 ICDogg said at 3:55 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    With the Eagles it’s also important that they are capable of being in the condition to play an entire game at a very fast pace.

  84. 84 Insomniac said at 4:10 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Yup. This is why Jake Fisher has the edge over any of the OL we would target.

  85. 85 GEAGLE said at 5:36 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    grasu too, especially considering Kelces injury history

  86. 86 ACViking said at 4:16 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  87. 87 Alistair Middlemiss said at 3:52 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    (a)Eagles want athletic line men, Mathis, Kelce, Lane and Peters are all athletic freaks at their positions; Kelce, Lane and Mathis all set records at the combine for their athletic ability. Long arms and big hands as well as length is a big physical requirement. Pass sets are often one on one match ups for Tackles and Guards so they need to be able to win battles one v one in pass set. Character is key in all Eagles players.

    (b) Schematically in the run game we get creative with lots of movement, getting OL on the second level blocking safeties and linebackers is a key feature which is why being very athletic is so vital. In the passing game we rarely leave the back to block, nor have a fullback and ideally we don’t want our TE consistently blocking either. Due to this players need to be good in pass coverage one on one. Also relies on excellent chemistry and awareness to pick up blitzers and stunts because there is no safety net there.

    (c) I will struggle with – Orlando Franklin has the physical tools to match up skill wise but his $ may well be too much for the Eagles. Recently we have done well at finding vets from other teams who struggled in other schemes but have done well here (Babre and Mathis), but who we may target i have no idea.

    (d) draft wise there are 2 guys that stand out to me, Ali Marpet and Jake Fisher seem like day 2 targets that have all the tools and character the Eagles look for. I think Fisher goes higher than people expect (mid 2nd) so the eagles may miss him by Marpet may be available with the 3rd or even 4th pick. Mitch Morse may be a fit as a later round guy.

    (e) OL is critical for this team. I think for Chip it is the most important thing for this team to succeed. We leave the OL exposed and they have to win 1v1 to set up the match ups outside. We have an ageing OL with Mathis and Peters and Babre? so we need long term answers at the position. If there is a free agent they love they can spend $$ on the position, but they may look at what we already have as options (Babre/Tolbin) and think they can work out for the short term. I think they will go low level FA to compete with Babre and Tolbin, and then draft OL in the mid rounds.

  88. 88 ACViking said at 4:16 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    great stuff.


  89. 89 Mac said at 4:44 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Eagles need to find the RT of the future (soon, shoulda been last year but it didn’t work out). echo Alistair for requirements to play in Chip’s offense.

  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 3:08 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    hoping the toddfather ends up in KC or the Ravens, so i can root for him in piece… better not sign with a NFC east or west team… Wish herremans would just retire today, but thats pretty selfish of me lol wont be fun seeing him in a different uniform. He has been a rock for us for a decade from filling in wherever we needed him to short of center, not to mention he helped raise Lane Johnson from a puppy to one of the highest rated RTs in NFL…. wish the man nothing but the best, and when he retires I hope he comes back and makes Philly his home and maybe even get a local media job.. more former NFL players that get the local media jobs less hacks we have to listen to

  91. 91 wee2424 said at 4:07 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Im high on Johnson, but do you think he is currently one of the best RTs in the league right now? Im not debating, im asking.

  92. 92 GEAGLE said at 5:35 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    i didnt know he graded that high last year, but i didnt watch him close enough either, but for him to have had at the very least a solid 2nd season considering he played next to like 12 different RGs last year getting no continuity/chemistry, thats an impressive second year player. I remember him having a few dominant games, but i didnt watch him close enough in all of them to realy know… but if he wasnt really one of the best RTs in the league last year, id bet it wont take him much longer to reach that status. i think the world of the kid, and he will end up having a fantastic career possibly reach JP level 4 years from now…

  93. 93 wee2424 said at 8:23 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Your right. There were a few games he was dominate, and other games where he was rock solid. Most importantly there was never a game in which he got dominated. Some people are upset that he isnt in Pro Bowl already considering he was drafted 4th overall. Thats just stupid. I agree with you that Johnson will be a dominating player for years to.come shortly, and he will be a perfect replacement for JP. Did you know that he actually received an AP vote? Some people besides us are starting to notice his play also.

  94. 94 GEAGLE said at 8:34 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    yeah thats absurd to be down on Lane because he isnt a probowler yet. truth is he was a raw RT when we drafted him, and we are fortunate that he was able to play as a rookie and already passed Joekel and Fisher , two much more developed OTs as the best OL drafted last year, heck Lane Johnson was probably the best of the top 5 draft picks., If you did a redraft today, Lane would have went first to the Cheifs, and the Jags would have drafted Ziggy Ansah, so we got the best player at #4….hit a home run, this year he should be a dominant RT, and eventually grow into one of the top LT when he eventually takes over for JP
    joekel and fisher should have been better rookie OTs and 2nd year players with Lane eventually passing them when he gained experienced, but Lane passed Joekel and Fisher immediately, thats a very good sign considering how raw he was AND how experienced a guy like Joekel was

  95. 95 wee2424 said at 8:49 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Yeah. I forgot he was considered raw when he came out. He has such great size and athleticism that he didnt have to be great with his technique in college. Shows that he responds well to coaching. Alot like the Toddfather. He was raw also coming out, but very quickly refined his technique.

  96. 96 wee2424 said at 4:09 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Ive been saying Birds will go Oline very early in draft. This supports that, but Kelly really values his Oline. I do think RG is going to be addressed in fA.

  97. 97 botto said at 4:13 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    if we trade picks its going to be tough to get good young O line talent in the draft.
    along with it being tough to get a lot of things in the draft.

  98. 98 Greg Richards said at 4:14 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Over at the Browns scout.com site, Lane Adkins posted an “insider tidbits” article. I know a lot of websites have so-called “insiders” that are full of crap but Adkins is legit. The link to the article has a picture of Vinny Curry. It’s a pay site and I’m not a member so I don’t know what the article actually says.

  99. 99 ACViking said at 4:15 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Do the Browns run a convention 3-4 scheme?

    Or more exotic 3-4/4-3 hybrid like Seattle? (Or whatever it’s more properly called)

  100. 100 jpate said at 4:17 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    4-3 under?

  101. 101 Greg Richards said at 4:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    The Browns ran more of a traditional 3-4 last season but they mix in other looks.

  102. 102 D3FB said at 1:23 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Pettine was Rex Ryan’s understudy. Ryan comes from the Baltimore D, which is a classic 2 gap 34, but with a solid amount of Under (Seattles D) as well.

    Ryan took it and turned it into a hybrid blitz like hell defense, so I imagine Pettine probably runs something more along the lines of Baltimore’s D with hints of Rex to it.

  103. 103 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:16 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Hmm Curry for one of Browns 1st rounders maybe..

  104. 104 wee2424 said at 4:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Yeah, i.highly doubt we are getting a first for Curry.

  105. 105 Greg Richards said at 4:19 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Probably could get a 3rd at best for him considering he’s entering the last year of his contract.

  106. 106 wee2424 said at 4:20 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  107. 107 Mitchell said at 4:28 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    However, the Browns have shown they can be EXTREMELY stupid.

  108. 108 RobNE said at 4:32 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I thought the plan was to get Dion for Curry.

  109. 109 unhinged said at 7:33 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Miami hasn’t given any indication they’re giving him up. He’s put on 30 pounds since he was drafted, and it looks very much like they want to make a 4-3 DE out of him. Don’t know if he’s got that freakish mobility at 295lbs.

  110. 110 wee2424 said at 8:20 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    No, we are trading him for Tom Brady.

  111. 111 anon said at 5:45 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    browns do have 2 firsts (bills are so stupid).

  112. 112 GEAGLE said at 5:50 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    the funny part is after the browns are done using the two first round picks they probably end up looking worst than the Bills… last years 2 first round picks, Justin Gilbert, Johnny Clipboard.. and im not even sure which is the worst first round pick of the two donkeys… all the picks in the world wont save the browns from being the browns

  113. 113 A_T_G said at 4:21 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Funny, I pictured Curry getting dealt to the Chiefs or Redskins, one with more of an Indian-flavor.

  114. 114 botto said at 4:35 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  115. 115 GEAGLE said at 5:45 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    id trade Curry right now to the browns for Christian Kirksey, eliminating ILB as a need in this offseason, assuming we cant keep Curry longterm. If they plan on doing what it takes to keep him here long term, then for me Curry would become untouchable… but if we have to lose him next year, rather try and get value before settling for a compensatory pick.. going to be a sad day when Curry is no longer an eagle… least that we can do is get some quality compensation out of losing such a fan favorite

  116. 116 Mac said at 6:41 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    If Goode and Long are healthy is ILB a need?

  117. 117 unhinged said at 7:28 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I thought Long was OLB or is he both? In any case, if Najee and Long are ILB, we have no depth behind them, which makes it a need.

  118. 118 Mac said at 12:38 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    He was classified as both… injury bug is a crazy thing. I get that you don’t wanna have blind faith. Hopefully the docs have good info for Chip.

  119. 119 D3FB said at 1:01 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    He’s an OLB, played DE at Wazzu. He was crosstrained late in camp last year as a way of keeping him on the 53, similar to how they played Casey at OLB a little bit in ’13 and how they moved Marcus to ILB last year. More of a “we like this guy and need numbers at another position and don’t like the street options”

  120. 120 GEAGLE said at 8:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    yes… I like Goode as a back up, he is far from proven as a starter as far as im concerned.. as for Long, I am a big fan, but he is way more OLB then ILB and I personally have given up hope counting on a kid who suffered two horrible injuries the last two years.. dont see how we could count on him after the recent injuries that started to pile up on the kid

  121. 121 Mac said at 12:36 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Makes sense… It was truly amazing and terrible how many ILBs we lost last yr. I’m just thinkin that maybe Chip has enough ILBs without it being as big of a need as some make it seem. Not opposed to a new guy there tho.

  122. 122 D3FB said at 1:19 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Probably. Currently you have Kendricks. Then Demeco and Goode both coming off injuries, so those are both question marks. What does Demeco have left in the tank and Goode is a solid third LB, maybe he could be a stop gap, but he’s certainly not a long term answer at the position. After that the cupboard is really bare. Casey is an FA, Acho is pretty blah, Long played DE in college and really is more of an OLB (I know he did ok in the final preseason game but that was more of well we don’t really have anybody, go out there and play football kid, where he had no expectations and acquitted himself solidly, rather than really playing ILB). Brandon Hepburn was a small school measurables guy on the p-squad but probably >5% of those guys work out.

    So that 1 great player, 1 aging injured vet, 1 injured solid backup, and then a whole lot of ehhhhhh at a position where we could carry 4 or 5 players. If we don’t address it with a solid backup type in FA we will probably see 1 guy added in the first 4 rounds and another priority UDFA added as well.

  123. 123 Greg Richards said at 4:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Other veteran cuts:

    TE Anthony Fasano – Chiefs
    DT Kendall Langford – Rams

  124. 124 GEAGLE said at 5:30 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Fasano too old
    Langford is interesting for his 3-4 and 4-3n experience, but i dont think he is anything special. aaron donald took his job with the quickness

  125. 125 botto said at 4:21 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    do guys on the practice squad usually ever make it up to the roster?
    we have some talent stashed there no? Pratt, and Tucker.
    do we take these guys into account when looking for players?
    tucker looked pretty decent I thought.
    and what ever happened to BJ Cunnigham? he made some nice catches in pre-season.

  126. 126 Greg Richards said at 4:23 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Cunningham is with the Bears.

  127. 127 BreakinAnklez said at 4:32 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Tapeh did I think. I think Akeem Jordan did.

  128. 128 A_T_G said at 5:20 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Usually? No. Some guys do, though. There are guys on the PS, like Tucker, who are developmental. Other guys are there for their actual value in practicing or as injury insurance.

    And sometimes you lose a player to another team. The BJ Cunninghams of the NFL are a good cautionary tale. You think the BJs in this league will always be there when you are ready for them, that you can just stash someone and have the BJs waiting in the wings at your beckon call, until you turn around and find someone is enjoying BJ’s services. So, don’t miss out on those BJs when you get the chance.

    Or, you know, some better player whose name serves as a double entrende.

  129. 129 KAJomo said at 6:00 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Cedric athorton spent a year on the PS

  130. 130 Bert's Bells said at 6:12 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Would it be great to have a PS full of Cox?

  131. 131 D3FB said at 12:58 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    You don’t really take them into account much in FA. They tend to be guys who are battling to be a backup/make roster. For instance Pratt will be looking at battling Maehl/Smith/day 3 pick or UDFA for a spot on the roster. So if you’re looking at an FA pickup, he wouldn’t come into account. Same with guys drafted rounds 4-5 or earlier. It’s with those real late guys that you start to look and think, ok well we don’t really have any depth beyond one or two guys at position X, so maybe we take a player at that position in round 7 and then target somebody to compete with the practice squad guy as an UDFA.

    We have three guys on our roster who were practice squad guys. Ceddy who was just really raw coming out of a small school, Travis Long who wasn’t quite fully recovered from an ACL and was transitioning from a hand in the dirt player, and Matt Tobin who was a guy who was a good college player and from a school that produces OL but just needed some time to continue to grow and get more experience since he didn’t have any special qualities.

    I think Graff, Reynolds, Tucker all have probably 50/50 shots a have a chance of sticking next year (Pratt and Hepburn probably less than that) depending on how things shake out with draft picks and injuries at their positions. The rest of the guys are there more to provide practice reps.

    Graff- Similar to Tobin in build, skill set, and background, probably a similar trajectory
    Reynolds- Average athlete who needs to rely on the mental side of things, and fell behind due to missing OTAs because of stupid NFL rules
    Tucker- Never going to be anything great, but could probably be a RB3. He’s injury insurance during the season as he provides a quick insert into the depth chart that knows the play book and can take some touches from the primary rusher.
    Pratt and Hepburn- Both better athletes than football players coming out, maybe the lightbulb goes off and they become contributors, not likely.

  132. 132 anon said at 4:48 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Peyton looking to restructure to save $7-9m, there’s speculation that the extra money may be used to re-sign JT. He’s gotta be the best RZ threat in the league when healthy.

    Looking at the way that team is built it’s built for scoring TDs. Both JTs and then big CJ anderson

  133. 133 RobNE said at 5:19 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    how can he restructure when he’s likely to only play one more year. So they do a fake longer term deal, then he retires and it all accelerates into next year? I guess when he retires they hit reboot anyway, so the cap hit is the least of their problems. In that sense, I guess this makes sense but I call shenanigans.

  134. 134 A_T_G said at 5:24 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Maybe there is a promise of a one-year, 20 million front office position when he hangs up the cleats. Then there wouldn’t even be a cap hit.

    Note: I hope this wouldn’t actually be allowed. I hope even more that, if it were, we would have exploited it.

  135. 135 RobNE said at 5:46 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    checking out Broncos blog, and some are suggesting the best way is for Peyton to just take a straight pay cut. hahahaha. NFW he does that, or any QB does that.

    I can’t see how he plays more than one more year. They will end up with cap numbers for future year(s) if they restructure, but like I said above, who cares at that point.

  136. 136 GEAGLE said at 5:47 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    any word on if the denver local;s are expecting to keep Virgil Green or lose him?
    any of them talking about James a Casey, or possibly being able to keep JT for another year on the Tag?

  137. 137 RobNE said at 5:48 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    sorry I just looked for the Manning article. I have to go catch a train now.

    In the comments to the Manning article, someone said until they work out whatever with Manning, it’s hard to have a real plan re: free agents, and that seems true to me.

  138. 138 GEAGLE said at 5:50 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    no worries.. thanks tho

  139. 139 RobNE said at 5:50 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    ok I did find this:

    Tough Decisions Loom:

    Looking at our top 5 must sign UFA:

    5) ILB Nate Irving 1-1.5 million

    4) TE Virgil Green 2-3 million

    3) DT Terrance Knighton 5 million

    2) OL Orlando Franklin 6-8 million

    1) WR Demaryius Thomas 12-14 million

    Totals: 26-31.5 million

  140. 140 GEAGLE said at 5:53 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    nice… but there are some rumors that they will lose Franklin… possibly lose Nate Irvin… and surprised Rahim Moore isnt on that list and they wont even tryto keep him

    just wish they would extend DT so they can franchise JT and keep him for Denvers last season.. that could possibly cost them Virgil….but its not looked good

  141. 141 anon said at 5:43 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I think they’re going to push $$ to 2016 or make 2017 a voidable year according to the report

  142. 142 GEAGLE said at 5:29 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    praying praying praying they sign JT, and Kubiack wants to be reunited with James Casey so they let go of Virgil Green lol (fat chance)

  143. 143 mksp said at 4:58 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Pat Kirwan ‏@PatKirwanCBS 43s43 seconds ago
    just interviewed Brett Hundley..don’t be surprised if he goes in the bottom of the first round

  144. 144 botto said at 5:04 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    maybe pick 20?
    whose ever that may be when the draft comes…

  145. 145 Greg Richards said at 5:50 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    If you want him trade down to close to 32 and get more draft picks.

  146. 146 D3FB said at 12:34 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    That’s getting cute with a guy you think could be a franchise QB.

  147. 147 NinjaP said at 2:17 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Well no one that has watched Hundley play thinks Hundley will ever be a franchise QB. So no real concerns.

  148. 148 D3FB said at 2:56 AM on February 27th, 2015:


  149. 149 Anders said at 2:57 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Then I suppose D3FB and this guy are no ones?


  150. 150 D3FB said at 3:02 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    NinjaP heard Kiper say he didn’t like him. So therefore no one could possibly have a different opinion. Because a man on the television said it.

  151. 151 NinjaP said at 11:43 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yep nobodies.

  152. 152 Greg Richards said at 7:23 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    To not to try to maximize value is ignoring fundamental draft soundness. If you think Hundley is the best available player on the board, then by all means take him at 20. If you’re targeting Hundley but his grade doesn’t warrant picking at 20, trade down. Otherwise, just take a player at 20 whose grade warrants the spot. If it causes you to miss out on Hundley, fine. Again, take the best available player.

  153. 153 Anders said at 8:29 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    The problem is if he trade back, then you risk of some other team trading in front of you.

    If you like Hundley and think he has franchise potential you pick him at 20

  154. 154 anon said at 5:19 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think this is Chip’s philosophy.

  155. 155 RobNE said at 5:18 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    because he gave a good interview? that’s an odd tweet.

  156. 156 mksp said at 6:35 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    It is an odd tweet.

    I do think that people maybe don’t realize that Hundley is considered to be a high intelligence, high character guy, and that tweet was targeted at them.

    I would be shocked if Hundley falls out of the top-40.

  157. 157 GEAGLE said at 5:27 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    no shit genius, how else are teams going to get the 5th year option on a QB they drafted?

  158. 158 eagleyankfan said at 10:38 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    now that’s funny…lmao…

  159. 159 Greg Richards said at 6:04 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Looked through every team’s planned FA looking for somewhat under-the-radar guys that could be fits. I purposely excluded well-known top-tier FAs. I tried to find one guy on each team that I thought would work well with the Eagles, but had to leave out a few teams.

    BUF – WR Marcus Easley – one of best ST gunners in the league

    MIA – CB/S Jimmy Wilson – good STs player, can play both safety spots, outside corner, nickel corner, negative is that he’s already 28

    NE – LB Akeem Ayers – TEN couldn’t figure out what to do with him but Ray Horton is awful, got traded to NE for essentially nothing(NE’s 6th for TEN’s 7th which is a drop of maybe 10 spots once comp picks are awarded), Ayers then became a key player for NE, can play ILB or OLB in 3-4, DE in 4-3, or SLB in 4-3, went to UCLA so Kelly should be very familiar with him

    NYJ – LB Nick Bellore – very good STs player

    BAL – S Darian Stewart – good not great S but if he’s not your starter is very good on STs

    CIN – OG Clint Boling – almost considered him too well-known to include but not as hyped as Iupati and Franklin

    PIT – LB Arthur Moats – can play OLB or ILB in 3-4, good STs player

    HOU – T/G Derek Newton – mentioned him earlier, good fit for Eagles’ scheme

    IND – S Mike Adams – Old(33 or 34) but played very well, went to college locally at Delaware and previously played for Denver under Undlin

    JAX – WR Cecil Shorts – IF they let Maclin leave, then Shorts is probably one of the better replacements that won’t come with a huge price tag

    TEN – OT Byron Stingily – I can’t really put my finger on why but I remember thinking that Eagles would select him in 2011 draft

    DEN – TE Virgil Green – Slight upgrade from Casey that you could probably get for around $2M a year.

    KC – LB Josh Mauga – Started all 16 games for KC after Derrick Johnson got hurt. Didn’t set world on fire but wasn’t huge liabilitiy. Good STs player. If Ryans let go, could compete with rookie for starting job.

    OAK – WR Denarius Moore – Speed WR that showed a lot of potential as a rookie. Has been on downward trajectory since but OAK has been so screwed up it’s hard to evaluate if that’s due to his own abilities or the dysfunction there.

    SD – S Marcus Gilchrist – Can play free or strong safety or slot corner. Similar to Malcolm Jenkins but probably a better tackler. Cosell said he may be his #2 FA safety after McCourty

    Will post NFC players later.

  160. 160 anon said at 6:07 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  161. 161 GEAGLE said at 6:13 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    after dedicating almost the entire last years free agent market on signing our special team aces, I would like to think we leave the depth and stop gapping signings alone this year and fill some important starting holes with some serious talent…. we already have a beast of a ST unit in place… there is really no reason for us to spend money on ST signings, when we oculd do knowing and still be a top 3 ST team next year…… Take care of all your starting opening in free agency, and build depth and boost ST play with the young kids you add in the draft/…we already have as many ST veterans as we need,,, I was in agreement with last years free agency strategy, but we took care of that last year, now its time to take care of starting roles knowing chip wont play a rookie just because we spent a high pick on him… better build next years Starting offense and defense in free agency and use the young players from your draft to build depth and add ST talent

  162. 162 A_T_G said at 6:37 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I thought your theory was that the Eagles will never sign big name free agents, that we will only add depth and competition in the overpriced FA market and then draft and develop our own talent?

    Did something change your take on things? Am I misremembering? Have you been lulled by the siren song of unsigned talent?

  163. 163 GEAGLE said at 8:13 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    what i think the eagles will end up doing is usually a very different discussion then what I wish the eagles would do
    sign next years team in free agency, draft your future is my personal preferred philosophy…and we have some serious starting holes i would beg the eagles to fill this offseason….
    also factor in that i felt chip deserved a free pass the first 2 years to build his program however he wanted, year 3, i demand results from whoever the coach is, so you probably should alter free agenbt strategy from last year

  164. 164 A_T_G said at 8:48 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    That is reasonable. I think you can add the DeMeco from last year and any hope of a second safety to the loss column. DeMeco will probably make it back, and might regain the starting job, but I doubt we ever see the same guy that we lost. At safety, the dream of either Wolffe or Allen panning out seems one notch above Jarred Page returning and proving us all wrong.

  165. 165 A_T_G said at 6:37 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Great read. Nice work.

  166. 166 BreakinAnklez said at 7:51 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Awesome work. Herzlich would be coming back home. I’ve known him since maybe 7 or 8th grade. He was a stud lacrosse player. I think he originally committed to UVA and was gonna play both football and lax.

  167. 167 humbledicksherman said at 6:23 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Losing Toddfather has a kind of Game of Thrones feel to me.

    I have that same rotten feeling in my gut now as I did that day they killed off Ned Starks. Ned was the man and so was Toddfather.

    I want to thank Todd for his many years of loyal service. He was an old school, lunch pail kind of player, you just loved watching, especially when he stonewalled would be pass rushers. He will be missed.

  168. 168 Nailed it! said at 7:00 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Schefter reporting RJF to Skins for 3 years 9 million 4 mil guaranteed! How is this happening before Free Agency!!??

  169. 169 KAJomo said at 7:09 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Because the was cut in the current league year, so he can be signed now. FA with expiring contracts are not available until the new league year starts

  170. 170 Nailed it! said at 7:11 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Ahhhh thanks!

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 8:08 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    yeah its a done deal… typical skins signing, all name brand, no substance. since leaving the niners he graded out negatively in each of the last two years with the colts giving them on average 2.5 sacks per sdeason… yet this his the name brand signing that is perfect for dan snyder

  172. 172 anon said at 8:09 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    He’s a NT right? What defense are skins running?

  173. 173 GEAGLE said at 8:10 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    3-4 Right? or are they changing scheme?… believe he is a 3-4 DE, maybe 5tec if im not mistaken

  174. 174 GermanEagle said at 8:48 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    He was a 3tec DE..

  175. 175 GEAGLE said at 9:58 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    ewww 5.5 sacks in two seasons combined for A 3TEC? YUCK…

  176. 176 Greg Richards said at 7:32 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Primarily a 3-4 DE, played a little NT for SF in sub-packages

  177. 177 anon said at 5:18 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    ahh yeah i thought we were going to get him to be NT but got stuck w/ that other dude from SF.

  178. 178 anon said at 8:08 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Yeah they are going to be big players in FA.

  179. 179 GEAGLE said at 8:09 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    they will just try to get all the old niners players, big name guys on the decline

  180. 180 Greg Richards said at 8:59 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Players that are released by their teams immediately become street free agents and can sign with a new team immediately. That is opposed to scheduled unrestricted free agents who are stil property of their new team until the current league year ends and the new league year begins.

  181. 181 Jason said at 7:10 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Why release Herremans now? Unless it was just for him. Is there significantly different cap savings if he were released now as opposed to after start of FA or after the draft?

    Would it not be better to assess whom you secure on OL in FA and in the draft and then decide to release?

  182. 182 ICDogg said at 7:21 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Eagles weren’t going to keep him at the salary he was due in his contract. Herremans wasn’t willing to renegotiate. Releasing him provides him to establish his market value.

    Meanwhile, this signals to potential free-agent O-linemen that there is an open starting position on the Eagles.

  183. 183 Anders said at 2:55 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    The Eagles are also doing Herremans a favor by letting him hit the FA market before other players.

  184. 184 76mustang said at 7:37 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Wishful thinking…

    Round 1 Pick 20: Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (B)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Leterrius Walton, DT, Central Michigan (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (B-)

  185. 185 truehaynes said at 8:06 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Wow if that happened i might jazz in my pants

  186. 186 76mustang said at 8:27 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Okay, last one…too addicting…all trade draft…ha!

    Round 1 Pick 26 (BALT): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 18 (BUF): Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 22 (DET): Jalen Collins, CB, LSU (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon (B)
    Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A)
    Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (A)
    Round 4 Pick 6 (WASH): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (C+)
    Round 4 Pick 25 (CAR): Ben Koyack, TE, Notre Dame (A)
    Round 5 Pick 29 (IND): Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A)
    Round 6 Pick 8 (T.B.): Leterrius Walton, DT, Central Michigan (B)
    Round 6 Pick 16 (S.D.): Dezmin Lewis, WR, Central Arkansas (C)

  187. 187 GEAGLE said at 8:29 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    you might Jazz in your pants? that must be some party huh?

  188. 188 GermanEagle said at 8:53 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    So I just spent 2 hours in the kitchen to cook my famous lasagna, had dinner and an awesome chocolate cake for desert, come back to re-fresh Disqus and we still haven’t signed Mariota. Life’s a beach…

  189. 189 OregonDucker said at 9:07 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    He already bought a condo. Close enough? 🙂

    Just kidding, of course.

  190. 190 GermanEagle said at 9:08 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Good to see the Redskins signing washed up players. LolSkins

  191. 191 GEAGLE said at 8:56 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    ok, we need to put an end to this rob parker bullshit. I havent watched an incompetent secondary for years to get to this free agent market and spend 6mil on an over rated hack that fans are severly over rating…
    after all the horrible secondary woes we sat thru, people are talking about signing a kid fthat wants 6mil, who opposing qbs had higher than an 85 passer rating when throwing at Parker, while he missed 1 tackle out of every 4.5 attempts, rating as the 4th worst tackling safety in the NFL…. after all our safety crap, this is the DB hack that Eagles fans are clamoring for? Really? shame on the next eagle fan who even mentions his name… lol

  192. 192 GermanEagle said at 8:57 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  193. 193 GEAGLE said at 8:58 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    eugene or tony?

  194. 194 GermanEagle said at 8:59 PM on February 26th, 2015:


  195. 195 anon said at 9:40 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I’m not worried about the tackling, the current cast of coaches is pretty good at coaching tackling. I think Jenkins led the league in missed tackles prior to coming here. Inability to cover is a serious issue b/c we require that out of our safeties when we stay in base D in 3WR sets. I agree it’d be better if we took better players. But i’m ok taking a player with deficiencies that our staff is good at fixing.

  196. 196 NickS, Combine Warrior said at 7:32 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Was it just me or did it seem like it was usually Nate up top in the single high? While I understand whoever comes in will have to cover some, I care more about his ability to play center fielder if he’s going to be doing more of that.

  197. 197 Anders said at 7:40 AM on February 27th, 2015:


    Here is a break down of Searcy where they quote that Jenkins played 48% in the box and Allen was at 44.5%. So it was pretty even for them, I just think Allen was getting beat more down field than Jenkins

  198. 198 NickS, Combine Warrior said at 7:43 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Great info, thanks!

  199. 199 NickS, Combine Warrior said at 7:50 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Ah, not sure how much it matters, but those percentages came on run downs. Still a great breakdown of Searcy.

    What stood out to me was Allen being targeted a mere 36 times and gave up 24 completions for 420+ yards and 5 TDs. He needs to thank Flether that he wasn’t targeted and exposed any further than that!

  200. 200 GEAGLE said at 1:21 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    i havent gotten a chance to look at this article yet, but I am through about 75% of searcy’s snaps this season, and i feel like I can Confidently say, by far he is the best Safety option available for us, would be an extremely valuable upgrade in our secondary, amd we cant possibly do any better in this market than Da’norris Searcy, who Id rather sign instead of Byron Maxwell

    Searcy is a really really good player who is only going to continue to improve

  201. 201 GEAGLE said at 9:56 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    for me, after our secondary crap, you dont go out and Target a friggin Rob Parker. You target a serious upgrade, and at best you have Rob Parker as one of your fallback options.
    for someone who fans like because he has corner and safety experience..what good is corner experience if QBs have over 85 QBR throwing at him…
    and if we are going to sign another teams players, i would prefer signing a safety from one of the top passing defenses in the NFL, who are only willing to lose the player because they already have a suitable replacement in house.
    KC has as much secondary issues as we do, if Rob Parker isnt good enough for them, he shouldnt be good enough for us. def not someone we should be going into free agency targetting… Fall back option at best

  202. 202 anon said at 5:17 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yeah Parker is nate with a different name. Might as well bring nate back.
    When you rank bottom 2 in pass defense 2 years in a row AND give up a record number of x plays through the air you gotta do something.

  203. 203 Greg Richards said at 9:32 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    The Raiders are cutting S Tyvon Branch. 28 years old. A few years ago he was one of the hottest potential FAs out there before re-signing with Oakland. Been hurt most of the past 2 years though.

  204. 204 jpate said at 11:02 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I don’t know if he is a box safety but I would love to take a shot at him. He was highly touted few seasons ago and he’s still young..

  205. 205 GEAGLE said at 10:49 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    29yrs old, played 5 games in the last two seasons combined because of ankle and leg injuries… not a stud in man coverage.

  206. 206 GEAGLE said at 9:49 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    yeah im not crazy about his recent injury history…

  207. 207 Avery Greene said at 10:44 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    What type of injury?

  208. 208 GEAGLE said at 10:44 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    he only played 5 games the past two seasons because of injury after getting PAID(ankle and leg injuries)..
    …for a former corner who ran blazing fast at his combine, he is said to be average to poor in man coverage… definitely doesnt sound like an eagle target to me. This front office takes injury history/durability pretty serious, often dropping draft prospects off our big board when we are uncomfortable with the medical.

  209. 209 ian_no_2 said at 10:23 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Don’t like the move. He was playing well last year. The only solid backup they had last year was Molk. Plus what they say about a line playing together. When you (1) have a young player ready to start; or (2) see a dropoff which makes a replacement better, then you move on. That’s not the case here. They might sign or draft someone, but they made the move now. Bad move.

  210. 210 GEAGLE said at 9:48 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    i despise Molk. hope to never see him play again

  211. 211 fran35 said at 12:06 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Was it the whole “this is great!!” routine he pulled after losing one of the games this past year? That irked the hell outta me. That and the fact that he is tiny. Kelce is a tad undersized and even he dwarfs Molk

  212. 212 ACViking said at 12:11 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    fran35 . . .


    Where you been?

  213. 213 fran35 said at 12:39 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Things are great. Working a lot, which has entailed spending way too much time in court. I have been lurking when I have had a chance, just not posting.

    I have been a bit troubled by the rampant rumors of selling the farm to move up and draft Mariota.

  214. 214 GEAGLE said at 12:59 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    that contributes to it, but i got tired of watching defenses blow up and push him into foles lap, and then i have to watch our fans crush foles for playing behind a joke of an OL

  215. 215 Mitchell said at 10:27 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    I don’t really care what Kendricks’ 40 time was, he can definitely play sideline to sideline. He is very technically sound, however, he is a bit high in engaging defenders. Also, he has excellent instincts and very sound tackling skills. Would he fit right along side with his brother? Absolutely, I think he would be perfect for this defense. I didn’t think he was a “flashy” player but he is so technically sound he makes plays constantly. I only post this because I was unsure of where Kendricks should be taken but I feel confident that if we were to trade down and get him in the first, I would be happy. The only reason I wouldn’t take him at 20 is because I believe there would be an OL or OLB that are more important in the NFL i.e. Fischer or Dupree.

  216. 216 GEAGLE said at 8:11 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    personally, i havent even looked at his combine close enough… today, i dont even remember what he did other then the slower 40 time, but he clearly pulled up at the end, he didnt run his 2nd attempt… i dont need to see his combine to know that kid is going to be a good NFL player. for me, the only thing the combine would define for kendricks is will he go in round 1, or last til round 2… his combine normally would give me hope of him falling to round 2, but i view him as one of the top LB in the draft so while i would prefer him fall to round 2, i still wont be surprised if one of the teams picking 27-31 end up taking him……and i would love to see him become an eagle

  217. 217 Mitchell said at 11:23 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    He is the best ILB in this draft and like I said, the only reason he won’t go in the first is because there are other pass rusher/OL ahead of him. I wrote what I said above to give others who were unsure of Kendricks more confidence of the Eagles taking him in the first.

  218. 218 GEAGLE said at 8:19 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I agree. I said that in September, why would I change now?

  219. 219 Mitchell said at 10:10 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I wasn’t talking about you.

  220. 220 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 11:36 PM on February 26th, 2015:

    Big fan but it was probably time to let someone else get in there and develop. As a player I always felt he was ok-good. He also showed great toughness and never quit. We need to draft a OL w/ mean streak

  221. 221 Nailed it! said at 1:26 AM on February 27th, 2015:


  222. 222 D3FB said at 1:49 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    You’re dead to me.

  223. 223 Nailed it! said at 2:40 AM on February 27th, 2015:


  224. 224 D3FB said at 3:50 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    You’re wrong btw.


  225. 225 A_T_G said at 9:29 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    This is awesome. I simultaneously earned pop culture street cred and modeled the benefits of educating oneself when I discussed this with my homeroom students this morning.

  226. 226 D3FB said at 1:48 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Wait, dear god, they let you educate the youths?

  227. 227 Nailed it! said at 11:48 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I definitely have changed my eyes from a first round grade to a third round….

  228. 228 Anders said at 2:54 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I saw light blue and gold

  229. 229 Greg Richards said at 7:19 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I saw ugly

  230. 230 eagleyankfan said at 7:46 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I don’t know why – I expected more news this morning. Can’t be just 1 guy let go could it?

  231. 231 GEAGLE said at 8:06 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    be nice to get some more news by the end of the day, give us something worth discussing….. tho i should probably be careful what i wish for. a boring, no news day is better then seeing someone i like get Axed

  232. 232 GermanEagle said at 8:11 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    When’s the meeting with Trent scheduled?! Next week? The only one I can see being sacked today is Mr. Sconces.

  233. 233 GEAGLE said at 9:52 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    think they said next week, maybe this weekend;.. free agency is right around the corner so soon we will start to see all the dominos begin to fall

  234. 234 eagleyankfan said at 8:28 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    the one guy I don’t want to think about is Shady. Is it possible that he doesn’t start to fit in the plans? I love me some Shady during the games but is it possible(I certainly don’t know the numbers) he’ll start to get squeezed because of cap? IF the Eagles want Mac, they are going to have to pay big time. He declined a multi-year deal to bet on himself, and he won that bet. Now, he’ll want his due….

  235. 235 A_T_G said at 9:25 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Cutting a productive player because of his behavior off the field and his salary? That will never happen.

  236. 236 RobNE said at 10:08 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I don’t think he fits the plans especially at $10M or so.

  237. 237 GEAGLE said at 10:09 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I hate that i cant say for certainty that we wont axe shady… but i would find the move moronic. just yesterday we created another starting hole that needs to be filled by cutting Herremans… right now, we have plenty of positions that require upgrading this offseason…. id hate to see us create MORE needs, as if we dont have enough of them to worry about it..

    i would leave the QBs and RBs alone and take this offseason as an opportunity to build the rest of your team. build a good enough team this year, eliminate most of the holes and we can talk about reconfiguring the RBs after this season.

    we also need to keep in mind that its not like we will have sproles for 5 more years, soon we will need to replace him, do we really wnat to be in a position to have to replace shady, sproles and possibly even Polk in the next two offseasons? i dont like the idea…

  238. 238 GermanEagle said at 8:15 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Re Franchise/Transition Tags:
    The deadline for applying FT is 2 March. Expext a series of players getting slammed with the tag over the next couple of days.

  239. 239 GEAGLE said at 9:50 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    thankfully we dont have to really deal with too many franchise crippling mistakes that set us back:


    Mike Wallace – WR – Dolphins

    The Sun-Sentinel reports Mike Wallace has informed the Dolphins he isn’t willing to restructure the final three years of his contract.

    Wallace has three years and $32.9 million left on his contract, and the Dolphins would like him to take a pay cut if he’s going to stick around in Miami. Wallace holds all the cards here. He’s easily the team’s biggest playmaker and is coming off a 10-touchdown season even with Ryan Tannehill’s complete incapability of throwing any semblance of a deep ball. Wallace probably prefers to escape the dumpster fire that is the Dolphins. As our own Patrick Daugherty put it: “The same team that couldn’t work with Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis is now preparing to dump Wallace. Novel idea: Maybe just figure things out?” Brian Hartline and Brandon Gibson are barely replacement-level receivers.-roto

  240. 240 GermanEagle said at 9:57 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    even with Ryan Tannehill’s complete incapability of throwing any semblance of a deep ball
    Nice cheap shot right there.. lol

  241. 241 unhinged said at 11:10 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Don’t think it’s correct.

  242. 242 anon said at 11:41 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    yeah i mean it’s not really his fault, he’s a bad fit. but he did catch 10 tds last year. had a torrey smith like year.

  243. 243 A_T_G said at 10:05 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    I am starting to wonder how my life is so sheltered that I never come across burning dumpsters. Describing a dysfunctional situation as a dumpster fire has become so ubiquitous that I assume most of the world is lit by the flames rising from these fiery trash receptacles.

  244. 244 GEAGLE said at 10:13 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    the cap hit they will have to eat because they cant get Mike Wallace to restructure probably kills any hope of trading for Dion.. they cant take a Wallace Cap hit AND a Dion cap hit…hate Mike Wallace….. steelers look brilliant letting him walk and feature antonio Brown, one of my favorite WR in the NFL.. love that little dude

  245. 245 A_T_G said at 10:15 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Maybe we can do an NBA style trade and take both Wallace and Jordan for nothing.

  246. 246 BreakinAnklez said at 10:30 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Just saw they are cutting Hartline

  247. 247 GEAGLE said at 10:36 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    did they cut gibson yet? if they havent I assume they will soon..

  248. 248 BreakinAnklez said at 10:41 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Havnt seen anything on Gibson. Hartline had a $7M cap hit, only saving $3M. Still a lot of dead money…

  249. 249 GEAGLE said at 10:45 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    geez, thats alot for him

  250. 250 BreakinAnklez said at 8:18 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Gibson has been cut

  251. 251 Greg Richards said at 12:07 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Hartline and Cooper are basically the same player. Hartline had a little more speed when he was younger.

  252. 252 GEAGLE said at 10:04 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    so no Dez Bryant video? Booooooooo!!! what a rip off. There has to be something real with Dez quickly deleting tweets about being “Betrayed”
    I will die laughing if we end up finding out that the Cowboys leaked the news to drive his price down… that might be my favorite NFL story EVER if it turns out to be true…

  253. 253 BreakinAnklez said at 10:30 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    If that’s true, a lot of people looking like morons who said they’ve been working a story since early fall.

  254. 254 BlindChow said at 11:17 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    You knew there was nothing here when the biggest story for days was just “rumors” of a video. Yawn.

  255. 255 GermanEagle said at 11:26 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    that might be my favorite NFL Non story EVER if it turns out to be true…

    <<<Now I agree with.

  256. 256 Avery Greene said at 11:47 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    It looks like it is coming out eventually.


  257. 257 ACViking said at 11:49 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Cowboys management had every incentive to put Bryant in a bad light around the time they offered him a Tyron Smith-type deal.

    Betrayal? Who else could that be besides the Joneses?

    I assume Bryant’s agent told him to keep quiet and delete the tweets.

  258. 258 Avery Greene said at 11:51 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    My thought is that the Cowboys are behind this too. Doesn’t help that Dez isn’t the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.

  259. 259 GermanEagle said at 11:49 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Watch out for the Dolphins to become a major player for Maclin’s services. Not only did they cut Brian Hartline, but their OC is Bill Lazor, who should know Jeremy very well.
    I still expect the Eagles to use the FT though, should they not reach an agreement on a long term deal with Mac before the deadline on Monday.

  260. 260 GEAGLE said at 11:52 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    we arent letting Maclin hit the open market.. he will be slapped with the tag on Tuesday if he doesnt come to terms on a longtem extension… i cant imagine chip wanting to lose Mac… think chip would jettison Coop and Shady before he was ok with losing Mac..

  261. 261 Greg Richards said at 12:41 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I don’t know if they’d tag him or not, but it doesn’t really seem like he’s looking to leave.


  262. 262 anon said at 12:57 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Tagging that guy is terrible. But no one is setting the market.

  263. 263 Greg Richards said at 12:06 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yeah, I saw PFT’s blurb on that. Does Lazor really know Maclin that well though? Maclin got hurt at the very beginning of training camp? So Lazor was around Maclin for a few-minicamps before he got hurt.

  264. 264 Ark87 said at 12:39 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Mac was around during the season, but Lazor was the QB coach, he had no business with Mac and his rehab. Probably didn’t know him that well, just that this season proved he is a great fit in Chip’s system, mentally and physically, knows he is a hard worker and not a distraction. So it is probably just he knows Maclin fits Chip’s offense and culture, which is likely the basis of what Lazor is establishing in Miami.

  265. 265 GermanEagle said at 12:40 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I don’t know if he knows that one of Maclin’s biggest hobbies is collecing stamps, however the connection to the Eagles cannot be denied.

  266. 266 anon said at 12:55 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Agent was behind that. I’d say here or kc or Oakland.

  267. 267 D3FB said at 10:44 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    STL as well.

  268. 268 unhinged said at 12:51 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Dolphins need help in a lot of places, like OL, RB, LB and now WR. I think Lazor might be more focused on shoring up his running attack, but you may be right. He did’t get to work much with Mac, but I’m sure he saw enough this past season to form an opinion, but he also probably knows that Kelly is not in a position to let this Eagle fly.

  269. 269 Avery Greene said at 11:50 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    All these mock drafts you guys are doing, I would love if the Eagles traded back 2 or 3 times in the 1st and added 2 or 3 more 2nd rounders.

    Call me dumb, but IMO four 2nd rounders would do wonders for our roster.

  270. 270 GermanEagle said at 11:54 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    Dumb. You. Not.

  271. 271 Avery Greene said at 1:44 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Awww thanks. 🙂

  272. 272 Greg Richards said at 12:05 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    You’re not going to get 2 or 3 more 2nd rounders for moving back in the 1st. Going from 20 to 32 would get your a 2nd and maybe if you negotiate well another late-round pick. The real league doesn’t work like first-pick.com.

  273. 273 Mitchell said at 12:36 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    It all depends on how many bidders you have but in general no. What did we get last year for trading back 4 spots? A third? So yah I can see getting a later second and another 3rd for trading back to 31 or 32.

  274. 274 Greg Richards said at 12:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Getting a 3rd for a 4 spot move down in the 20s of the 1st round was a great job by Howie. It’s not typical.

  275. 275 RobNE said at 1:06 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    agree. Is Howie still doing that role? Or is new guy? Or Chip?

  276. 276 sonofdman said at 4:05 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not going to have any more picks to trade back after we trade them all to move up and get Mariota. 🙂

  277. 277 anon said at 4:46 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think we’ll be able to tell what they are doing based on FA. If they are active, mariota more likely, but if they don’t go get real players i don’t think they can mortgage a draft with a ton of holes to fill.

  278. 278 A_T_G said at 12:37 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    So, wait, we can’t trade back until we have every pick in rounds four through seven?

  279. 279 Avery Greene said at 1:44 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yeah, but it’s nice to dream. If they trade back to 25, then 30, maybe?

  280. 280 D3FB said at 10:43 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    You’re looking at maybe getting two 3s or two 4s from that. The talent pool drops sharply after the top group and then is pretty steady from about the mid teens through about the top 100, so demand will be low. To get another second rounder you’re looking at moving back from 20 to 35-40 range.

  281. 281 unhinged said at 6:09 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    This dummy agrees whole-heartedly. It depends on the new FO getting it right, but trading back and dishing expensive players for picks is how we get to nirvana.

  282. 282 GEAGLE said at 11:55 AM on February 27th, 2015:

    micheal Sam is on the next season of dancing with the stars? oh lord..
    seriously, if I was Marcus Marriotta, i would just lie and come out as a gay man. If Micheal Sam a non NFL talent gets so much fame and oppiortunity off of his sexual orientation, whats going to happen when a sure shot top 10 talent announces he is gay? dude would probably sign mega endorsement deals before he even signs his NFL contract,. 2015 and we care who people are attracted to? no offense, but i wish every man on this earth besids me was gay, eliminate all my competitor, I became scarce, rare high demand to all the ladies of this world lol

  283. 283 unhinged said at 12:43 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I just read that Joel Grey came out at the age of 82. As a society, we have progressed with lightning speed on this issue. Within a generation the tolerance in U.S. has more than doubled. As compared to racism and misogyny, this is fast becoming a non-story. OTOH, Sam’s story will be big for a while, I think, because football is a macho world that is full of jocks high on their own sense of propriety, where otherness and difference are not embraced. Many players could not care less, but even most of them would rather not talk abut it.

  284. 284 GEAGLE said at 1:24 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    very true. good post

  285. 285 Bert's Bells said at 2:25 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Also, a lot of players come from marginalized and underrepresented communities. Those are demographics which traditionally tend towards social conservatism.

    Even so, these guys have all been to college (snicker) and many of them have banked a million dollars. That puts them into contact with out gay people who don’t fit their preconceived stereotypes.

    It makes for interesting sociology but no so interesting sports talk.

  286. 286 anon said at 12:53 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    You think Sam is worse than the small schit practice squad defensive ends around the league. I think if you’re marginally talented gotta keep it quiet. His story is probably more of a cautionary tale. I’m sure he’d rather do stuff besides dancing with the stars.

  287. 287 GEAGLE said at 1:17 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    lack of special team abiity kills his chance to make a roster as a deep defensive sub IMO

  288. 288 BreakinAnklez said at 1:35 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Or his lack of athleticism. His web is awful.

  289. 289 anon said at 2:16 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    casey matthews awful?

  290. 290 BreakinAnklez said at 3:30 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Nothing can be that awful, but it’s close.

  291. 291 BreakinAnklez said at 8:24 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    No one can be that awful, but it’s close.

  292. 292 Greg Richards said at 12:20 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Leonard Nimoy passed away this morning. RIP.

  293. 293 Ark87 said at 12:48 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    He’s one of the greats. He’s got one of those voices that will live on forever.

  294. 294 A_T_G said at 12:49 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    It is sad to hear that he died. At age 83, though, we can be glad he lived long and prospered.

  295. 295 Avery Greene said at 1:40 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I was sad when I heard this.

  296. 296 anon said at 1:08 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    “Every day, with little things I hear,
    evidence continues to build that the Eagles are going to make a strong
    play for Marcus Mariota. To note, this is something I had previously thought to be unrealistic,
    so as bits of information have trickled in, they’ve been absorbed on my
    end with skepticism. But it appears the Eagles are determined to get
    their guy.” Kempski

  297. 297 botto said at 1:20 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    smoke screen.

  298. 298 anon said at 1:29 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    for what? “Everyone thought we were going to trade up, but surprise, we didn’t”

  299. 299 botto said at 1:34 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I don’t know this is making me nuts.
    I just don’t buy it that we would do a big move like that for a franchise qb that will take us to the bowl

  300. 300 RobNE said at 1:42 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think it does make some sense. It’s a QB driven league, there was just a fight over personnel control.

  301. 301 unhinged said at 6:05 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Would that it were so. If they jump way up, give up picks and let the needs grow while junior learns the ropes, it will turn out bad. It is the most likely outcome.

  302. 302 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:42 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    for whatever??

  303. 303 botto said at 3:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:


  304. 304 anon said at 4:25 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    is that like getting jmatt when you really wanted ODB?

  305. 305 botto said at 4:48 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    haha yeah I guess

  306. 306 Joe Minx said at 1:41 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Really disappointed to see him jumping on this bandwagon of bull.

  307. 307 anon said at 4:55 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I’m sort of agnostic, get hm, don’t get him, i’m just ready for us to make moves.

    My thing is if you’re buying into what CK’s selling, buy in all the way. Let him get all the guys he wants, etc. It’ll work or not work, no excuses.

  308. 308 RobNE said at 5:24 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I’m in!!

  309. 309 Avery Greene said at 1:50 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I have two thoughts on this.

    Bad – Chip really does want him at all costs and goes and gets him in the top 6 costing us at least a 1st rounder next year.

    Good – Chip really is an evil genius and causes Dallas or NY to move up to get him, preventing him from coming here. The Eagles trade back twice and pick up 2 extra 2nd & 3rd rounders and we go on to win the Superbowl.

    Ummm, but it’s probably some where in between tho. He may want him because he knows him, but realizes it’s not worth it to give up so much on 1 person. I think D3FB might be right that they target Hundley, especially if he drops to late Rd 1 or Rd 2. I don’t hate it, because Foles hasn’t been able to stay healthy any of the 3 years he’s been here. If he gets injured again this year, that may be his career here in Philly.

  310. 310 ACViking said at 2:33 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Belichick is Belichick for a reason.

  311. 311 Ark87 said at 1:59 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    back in January-ish:
    Chip: “We’re getting Marcus at any cost”
    Howie: “that’s just crazy”
    This just in, Howie’s has no say in decision-making anymore.

  312. 312 ACViking said at 2:25 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Well . . .

    We can re-read Jimmy Bama’s words carefully (aka, legal bullshit).

    Or we can use common sense (aka, emotionally charged gut reaction).

    Let’s try re-reading his words.

    Jimmy’s first point is: “the Eagles are going to make a strong play for Marcus Mariota.”

    Then he writes: “this is something I had previously thought to be unrealistic.”

    What is “unrealistic”?

    That the Eagles would try to move up for Mariota?

    Or that the Eagles will offer A LOT to move up for Mariota?

    I think it’s the latter.

    Neither Kelly nor Lurie would re-affirm Foles’s position as the undisputed starter — whereas Lurie went out of way to laugh off the idea that Roseman wouldn’t be back as GM. (Until he wasn’t.)

    Kelly used cliched coach-speak in his last presser in characterizing Foles’s situation, i.e. (in substance), “I have review all the film.”

    Now from the common-sense angle, I guess one could argue that Jimmy’s full of crap; or

    Jimmy’s just trolling for clicks; or

    Jimmy’s not saying anything new; or

    Jimmy doesn’t realize how good Foles is and he, instead of fostering these kind of rumors, he should be talking up Foles.

    Disclosure: I think Foles is the best 4th-quarter QB the Eagles have had since Van Brocklin. (Roman Gabriel in ’73; Jurgensen in ’61 are next up.)

    But, considering Kelly’s refusal to vouchsafe Foles’s role publicly, I’m guessing Kelly has a different view than I.

    Bottom line . . . no matter what Kelly’s willing to spend to acquire Mariota, several teams have to cooperate — starting with Tampa and TN.

  313. 313 Ark87 said at 2:58 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    My approach: The story he’s selling
    “I’m one of you guys, I think this is crazy too. But no Joke this is what I’m hearing. PS remember that Jaccpot thing? I DO have sources. The Eagles want to make this happen, though there’s no guarantee they can pull it off.”

    The debate begins with how much you trust Kempski (his ability as a reporter/ his integrity) or his sources. Him being a friend of Tommy’s goes a long way for me. I just hope he (or his source) is wrong.

  314. 314 ACViking said at 3:01 PM on February 27th, 2015:


    Very good take: Trust for Kempski.

  315. 315 sonofdman said at 4:00 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think you characterized this perfectly.

  316. 316 Greg Richards said at 4:26 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    You can trust his sources and his integrity and still think he’s a bad reporter.

  317. 317 meteorologist said at 8:07 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Logged in to upvote twice

  318. 318 RobNE said at 2:32 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    what do you (you being anyone who wants to reply) really think it takes to get him? Assuming Chip wants him, I’m ok with the Peter King deal but I can’t see that getting you to the first pick. His scenario was with Washington.

  319. 319 Ark87 said at 2:34 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I don’t know, but Marcus needs to meet us half way, don’t know how many people thrown down stairs, how many pounds of coke, how many pounds of flab to put on to get down to at least 15, but he needs to do it.

  320. 320 RobNE said at 2:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    well at 16 we could have just started Barkley the last game.

  321. 321 unhinged said at 5:57 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Or just put up footage of him completing passes in tight windows or looking off the safety and hitting a covered receiver or doing anything from the pocket that resembles a pro set NFL play. It’ll be maybe :09 seconds of maybe 1 play.

  322. 322 eagleyankfan said at 3:05 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    what’s the evidence again? evidence can’t be “sources” .. it’s too strong of a word. Is the evidence the sale of all the Nick Foles stuff?

  323. 323 Joe Minx said at 3:18 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    There is none. This is complete garbage that no one can ever back up with anything other than “feelings”.

  324. 324 ACViking said at 3:19 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    then why didn’t Kempski say this after Kelly’s final regular season press conferance? What’s changed?

  325. 325 Joe Minx said at 3:20 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Peter King & Pat Kirwan said it was going to happen in their latest mocks. That’s about it.

  326. 326 ACViking said at 3:21 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I’m not reading Kempski to say a trade WILL happen.

    Only that Kelly will try to make a deal.

    Unless a deal’s done, I don’t think we’ll ever know what happened.

  327. 327 Joe Minx said at 3:22 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Bingo. And that’s why this is the ultimate angle for these guys. If it ever did happen they could say they called it all along.

    But when it more than likely doesn’t they can say “well they tried to do it but just couldn’t make it work” without us ever really knowing if in fact they did. They’ve covered their butts either way.

  328. 328 ACViking said at 3:27 PM on February 27th, 2015:


    That’s the old Howard Cosell trick . . .

    Make so predictions and criticisms that no one can remember all of them . . . so when one happens to be right, he’d loudly trumpet his own genius and foresight.

  329. 329 BlindChow said at 9:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I can think of a person or two who do that same thing right here in the comments!

  330. 330 bwin29 said at 3:39 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Mariota and his handlers should just whine about how he doesn’t want to play for a certain team or teams. It worked for Eli!

  331. 331 Greg Richards said at 4:31 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Other players released today:

    Brandon Gibson, WR, Miami(Hartline previously mentioned
    Darnell Dockett, DE/DT, Arizona
    Barry Cofield, NT, Washington
    Stephen Bowen, DE, Washington
    Robert Geathers, DE, Cincinatti
    Greg Little, WR, Cincinatti
    Harry Douglas, WR, Atlanta
    Justin Blalock, OG, Atlanta
    Charlie Johnson, OG, Minnesota
    Chris Canty, DE, Baltimore

  332. 332 anon said at 4:44 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Nothing good. My boy Jarvis Landry about to be a stud in Miami. They are straight up cutting that whole WR corps.

  333. 333 Greg Richards said at 4:50 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t classify him as a stud. A maybe slightly better Jason Avant. Dude averaged less than 10 yards a catch last year.

  334. 334 anon said at 4:51 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    He’s just a rookie, plus he was fighting Gibson and Hartline for catches. Now it’s just him and maybe mike wallace. Plus he was a stud in the return game.

  335. 335 Greg Richards said at 5:33 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Very good possession receiver with plus in return game. Good value for where they took him but never see him being elite.

  336. 336 Insomniac said at 5:30 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    He was playing on the Dolphins offense and almost put up the same numbers as Jordan “Can’t win jumpballs” Matthews who had like 100+ more passing attempts from his QBs.

  337. 337 anon said at 5:32 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    yeah just looked at his stats. 85 catches, 800 yds, 5 tds, plus [edit] 1100 return yards?

  338. 338 Insomniac said at 5:36 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Idk how Mettenberger stunk up the joint at LSU when he had ODB AND Landry. I’d trade Maclin + Matthews for ODB + Landry.

  339. 339 anon said at 5:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Should tell you how bad he is, they also had that the RB who is in Cinci now avg. 5.5ydc.

  340. 340 Greg Richards said at 5:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    And TEN may pass on Mariota/Winston because they have him.

  341. 341 anon said at 5:47 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    yeah tlaking to a skins fan, he thinks Skins / Eagles will trade, thinks Foles is worthless (?)

  342. 342 Greg Richards said at 5:55 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Skins fans aren’t the brightest bulbs.

  343. 343 Insomniac said at 5:45 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    He also had La’el Collins protecting his blindside. Collins will be a day 1 pick unless there’s something we don’t know about him.

  344. 344 Greg Richards said at 5:37 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Incorrect. Landry had 112 targets. Matthews had 103.

  345. 345 Insomniac said at 5:44 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Landry caught more balls in an offense that’s not nearly as good as this one is.

  346. 346 OldDuckMcDoc said at 5:54 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    You seem to have missed the part where you said “Matthews…had like 100+ more passing attempts from his QBs” yet reality says that not only is this not the case, but that Landry in fact was targeted more often than Matthews.

    Nothing against Landry, but at least be honest enough to say “oopsy, my original point was hilariously wrong” before you change your argument.

  347. 347 Insomniac said at 6:14 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Already posted above. Matthews had 90+ more snaps than Landry did. Just saying.



  348. 348 OldDuckMcDoc said at 6:19 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    So you confused targets with snaps and were still wrong?


  349. 349 Insomniac said at 6:47 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Clearly Matthews was in there to block more! I want to win an internet argument too because I can’t connect the dots!

  350. 350 OldDuckMcDoc said at 6:51 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Clearly Matthews was never on the field for running plays! I want to win an internet argument by using sarcasm because I failed with numbers!

    Dolphins had a total of 590 passing attempts. Eagles, 621. 621 is not over 100 more than 590 in any branch of mathematics.

    Landry was Tannehill’s safety blanky all year. He did a good but unspectacular job as a possession receiver. That’s it. Matthews put up better numbers despite not being “The Guy” and while dealing with mostly terrible quarterback play all year.

  351. 351 Insomniac said at 5:47 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I was exaggerating since Sanchez had Matthews as his safety blanket. Foles obviously didn’t trust Matthews so Matthews may have gotten more targets if Foles didn’t go down.

  352. 352 Bert's Bells said at 4:49 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Isn’t Dion Jordan supposed to be an EAgle soon?

  353. 353 anon said at 4:50 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Is that for Geagle?

  354. 354 Greg Richards said at 6:31 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    QB Josh McCown to Browns on 3-year deal

  355. 355 RobNE said at 6:50 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I guess to back up Foles

  356. 356 OregonDucker said at 6:34 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Some of what I heard – ONLY RUMOR – Enjoy the speculative fun.

    “I heard we are trading shady to the raiders for their 1st and files (Foles) to the browns for theirs and packaging our 2015 & 2016 1st rd pics and the newly acquired pics from the raiders and browns for a total of four 1st rd pics to the bucs for the #1 overall. This could all be a crock of bullshit but the person that told me is a personal friend of the McCoy family.” * by poonyd on Feb 27, 2015

  357. 357 Greg Richards said at 6:39 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Maybe the Raiders’ owner is that stupid to give up #4 for McCoy. If that happened, it would probably only take our own pick plus #4. I could actually see the Raiders having interest in McCoy. They absolutely have to spend cash the next two years to comply with the 89% minimum cash spend over a 4-year period. Thus acquiring big salary players that would help meet that threshold but who could also be released in the future with no impact on the cap going forward might actually be attractive. Don’t see them giving up their 1st or even a future 1st, but a 2nd isn’t totally out of the realm of possibility.

  358. 358 OregonDucker said at 6:40 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I heard the Raiders angle here in Eugene from someone connected. It was by no means certain when I heard it.

  359. 359 Greg Richards said at 6:41 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think the Raiders’ rumor is coming from Peter King’s mock draft.

  360. 360 OregonDucker said at 6:45 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Could be but this guy is pretty connect to Chip and his group.

  361. 361 anon said at 6:50 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t be surprised with a McCoy trade. At the same time, they gotta worry about those jersey sales….

  362. 362 Mitchell said at 8:13 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    You don’t think the jerseys will fly on the shelf with the name Marriotta on the back?

  363. 363 anon said at 8:20 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Only if he runs really fast like VIck. I think Mariota would be very popular if we start whooping on people like oregon did.

    Man i wish it was football season again.

  364. 364 OregonDucker said at 9:35 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    59 to 20 in a Playoff game work for you Anon?

  365. 365 Insomniac said at 9:48 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Nope. Didn’t win it all so he’s just like McDirtball!

  366. 366 BlindChow said at 9:29 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Not if it’s spelled incorrectly…

  367. 367 Mitchell said at 10:11 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I nO GoULD Att GrammmeR!?

  368. 368 RobNE said at 6:40 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    McCoy and his contract aren’t worth a high first. That is laughable. And why would McCoy know.

  369. 369 RobNE said at 6:41 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    But … I would do this.

  370. 370 anon said at 6:41 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    it’s the raider…..

  371. 371 botto said at 6:43 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    foles for a first?
    McCoy for a first?
    sounds like something that would never happen.

  372. 372 GermanEagle said at 7:04 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Foles for a first in next year’s draft is a possibility..

  373. 373 ACViking said at 7:15 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    a conditional 1st

  374. 374 OregonDucker said at 7:58 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yep AC, that’s how I see it.

  375. 375 NinjaP said at 6:43 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I honestly think maroita will be there at 4. So why trade up more?

  376. 376 RobNE said at 6:49 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Why not trade Casey Matthews for another first too while we are dreaming.

  377. 377 Greg Richards said at 7:16 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Rumor: I heard that one team was offering 3 1st round picks for Casey, but Kelly had to tell them he’s actually going to be a FA.

  378. 378 RobNE said at 9:08 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Ok give them Riley Cooper for a first.

  379. 379 Insomniac said at 8:17 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Throw in Sconces too

  380. 380 GEAGLE said at 12:06 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I heard we are trying to play hardball and make the Titans throw In a 3rd round pick in addition to the #2 they already offered us for the great Casey Mathews…
    If rather trade for Zack Mettemberger or Mile Glennon instead of marriotta.
    If Marriotta didn’t run fast, and was a slow pocket QB like Foles, Manning, Brady, NO ONE would be talking this crazy Ish about Marriotta or Hundley… When I look for QBs I try to see mental and physical toughness, look for a high level of Football IQ and judge QBs on their ability to read defenses and make all the throws. I try to picture every QB prospects as the slowest QB to ever play, and if I love the QB regardless of him not being able to run, that’s a QB that interests me… Let speed really shouldn’t even factor into QB evaluations. Wish QBs stopped running the 40 at the combine…. I used to say that leg speed for a QB is nothing more then a bonus. But I’m not even sure if that’s accurate or if QB speed is a developmental curse that allowed young QBs to bail them out, which in turn watered down their growth as passers… All this mobile QB stuff is so stupid to me. All we need is a QB who isn’t afraid to keep the ball and run for 5 yards on a zone read when defenses leave you wide open. The only time I want our QBs to run is when they aren’t being respected by the defense wje. We are running zone reads, but when defenses don’t respect the QB on Zr’s the QB is wide open so even as stiff like Peyton can keep the ball and pick up 5 yards and once you do that once or twice defense won’t leave you wide open so you free up room for shady…no reason Foles can’t do that

  381. 381 ACViking said at 7:12 PM on February 27th, 2015:


    Love this intel — even if it’s *counter-intel*.

    Anyway . . .

    New OAK coach Jack Del Rio is a big-time Run-First coach.

    In JAX, he had Fred Taylor lead the team for 6 seasons (1 at 1146, 2 over 1200, 1 over 1300, 1 over 1500). Taylor’s only sub-1000 season was when he missed 5 games but was on pace for 1150 yards.

    Del Rio then moved on to MJones-Drew. MJD shared some time with the aging Taylor his first year as the primary starter but nearly hit 900 yards on just 197 carries and *12 TDs*. But the next two years MJD topped 1300 yards. And in Del Rio’s last season, MJD topped 1600.

    Right now, the Raiders have ZERO running backs worth Del Rio’s time. So given the Raiders’ cap space and cap-floor problem (as Greg Richards comments) . . .

    I could see Oakland wanting to acquire McCoy.

    But offering, maybe, their 2nd Rd pick. At most.

    Even then, I could see Oakalnd requiring a pick coming back from the Eagles. A 4th or next year’s 4th?

    If the Raiders don’t see Melvin Gordan last until Rd 2, then “make the deal.”

    Still, a high 2nd for a RB entering his 7th season — who might last only 2 years?

    Seems awfully pricey.

    But the Raiders do have to spend money somewhere.

    And Del Rio loves great RBs.

  382. 382 botto said at 7:29 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    yeah so wouldn’t this be the draft to take a good RB and not give up a first for an older guy like McCoy, who is on his way down and doesn’t hit the hole?
    he’s great but I could see chip wanting to move on too.

  383. 383 anon said at 7:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    if these are the types of deals teams are giving up id be trading all the time.

    Dont forget they did give up 2 1sts for carson palmer

  384. 384 RobNE said at 7:40 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    And who costs close to 10M

  385. 385 Insomniac said at 8:03 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Latavius Murray could be a good RB if he could stay healthy.

  386. 386 unhinged said at 11:28 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    He can go after Murray and keep his pick.

  387. 387 GEAGLE said at 8:34 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Shady isn’t being traded. He is worth more to us then the 4th or 5th round pick a team would pay us for him. NFL contracts are traded, not players

  388. 388 unhinged said at 11:26 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Outside of Luck, I can’t believe ANY team would trade their #1 for one player. That is pure fantasy.

  389. 389 BlindChow said at 11:34 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Inside of Luck, it’s too dark to see.

  390. 390 Greg Richards said at 7:12 PM on February 27th, 2015:


    Earlier today, from Drew Boylhart of the huddle report:

    RUMOR; #Eagles will try to move up in #NFLDraft with 3 team trade #Browns, #Titans, #Eagles.Combo of players QB Foles & Pks future &Present

    Then, his next tweet:

    RUMOR; Told signing of QB Josh McCown for Browns is key to potential triple #NFLDRAFT trade not happening #Browns, #Titans #Eagles.

    Well, the Browns just signed McCown.

  391. 391 Insomniac said at 7:16 PM on February 27th, 2015:


  392. 392 ACViking said at 7:18 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    If McCown was the only road block to this fantastic triple bank-shot . . .

    Then someone at Nova Care would have said, “WE MUST SIGN McCOWN”!!!

    And gotten the deal done.

  393. 393 Greg Richards said at 7:20 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Dammit, Howie. Sabotaging Chip again.

  394. 394 ACViking said at 7:23 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    And poor Kelly thought he had all the power to get his guy after the shake-up.

  395. 395 anon said at 7:24 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Foles’ fans heads exploding. I mean it couldn’t have been a good deal for the browns if McCown could break it open.

  396. 396 botto said at 7:25 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    there goes our rings

  397. 397 GEAGLE said at 8:29 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I’m hearing Todd turned down either a pay cut or restructure so we waived him. If this is true maybe we welcome him back if he can’t find a home. Waiving him now gives him a shot to land on his feet, but it also announced to free agent guards that we have a starting spot open. If we didn’t waive Todd no quality OL would sign with us worrying if he can beat Todd for a job. On the other hand, it’s kind of hard to see me see us sign a quality OG..that would basically mean we are spending more for our OL then almost everyone… But OL is everything to our team. Has a big effect on our offense which also has an effect on our defense… So I’m pretty from fused about how we address the OL

  398. 398 anon said at 8:36 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I’m ok with paying them, the team lives and dies by the OL apparently.

  399. 399 GEAGLE said at 9:47 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    you know me, all about the trenches!!! seems like the skins are going to try and sign Iupati and every other Niner they can get their hands on

    i normally believe that the trenches are everything..when it comes to chip kellys as your coach its even more important, because OL dictates how good your offense is, and unfortunately our offense has too much of an impact on my beloved defense.. so i can hope we build the best defense the world has ever seen, but it wont be worth anything if our Offense goes 3 and out in 30 second during games. Chips offense puts so much pressure on my beloved defense, that in order for me to ever get to see a high caliber Eagle defense, I need the offense to get its shit together,. and that starts with our OL… id bet that if our OL stayed healthy last year, this offseason discussions about Foles and Shady would be very very very different…. so by upgrading and building an Elite OL, it indirectly not only improves our offense, but will also give our defense a better chance to succeed, so you know Im bout it bout,,,,
    then again, if Chip is going to secure Jake Fisher in the draft, then i dont care if we break the bank open for a free agent starting guard….but Id rather not go into drafts desperate to fill immediate needs. Hate drafting Kids and having to immediately pencil them in as a day one starter….

    i really dont know how to predict this offseason OL moves. No idea what we have in mind in terms of OL free agents, but even if we sign a stud OG, i would still assume we spend a draft pick or two on the OL
    Really dont want anyone other then Jake Fisher. Think he can be a better pro than Kyle Long who is balling and who im a big fan of. I dont want to have to worry about drafting a 300lber who i dont know how he will handle playing at our tempo.. heck, i cant even just assume that any 300lber will even be able to keep the weight on considering how we practice and play fast in games….. so much rather eliminate the Guess work, draft Fisher, start him at RGm and when Kyle Long becomes a free agent, sign him to replace Fisher at RG, move Fisher to RT, Move Lane to LT, move JP to LG replacing Mathis:
    Fisher…Kyle Long….Kelce…Jason Peters…Lane Johnson going into the 2017 season is my dream

  400. 400 GEAGLE said at 8:32 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Also heard the Eagles don’t care about adjusting Shadys contract as much as everyone is speculating about, but who knows… We will get all our answers next week

  401. 401 RobNE said at 8:45 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    All these trade talks gong on…and no article from Tommy today. I’m just saying, have we seen Tommy and Chip in the same room together?

  402. 402 Mitchell said at 9:01 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Do whatever you gotta do Chipper. If we trade up, I’ll just be upset we won’t get any more tasty players in the draft but o well it’s about the SB!

  403. 403 GEAGLE said at 9:59 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    i LIKE our current team. I dont think its too far away from a legit superbowl contender. 1 aggressive free agent shopping spree, and 1 quality draft, and we could be a legit contender assuming our next season wont be sodomized by injuries by last season….. so its pretty damn annoying for me to see so many people wanting to take steps backwards, hoping that we can eventually take more steps forward.
    for two years, I supported Chip, I didnt rip too many decisions that i didnt neccessarily agree with except for the blatantly poor ones like bringing Nate back…. i feel every single coach that gets hired should have the first two years to do whatever he wants…But come year 3, TIME to start being judged on your RESULTS… we should be continuing to build on these 10-6 teams, instead of building on our 10-6 teams, people want to take multiple steps backwards in hopes that we eventually take steps forward, and i just hate it…year 1 and year 2 is when you take steps backwards to eventually take more steps forward, in year 3 you should be continuing to build on the team you put together the first 3 years….. cant wait til this offseason is over,..Usually one of my favorite times of year, but its taken all the offseason fun out of it for me…

  404. 404 Insomniac said at 9:09 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    If we don’t take a QB this year and Foles continues to be mediocre then who do we take next year?

    Cardale Jones?
    Connor Cook?
    Christian Hackenberg?

  405. 405 GEAGLE said at 10:11 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    why would a young player that works really hard not improve? i assume if Foles has a mediocre year, it means we had some major OL problems and another injury plagued season…. I highly doubt we will see an Offense, with 10 players playing at an elite level, getting held back by the play of Foles… but hopefully Nick is traded soon, so we dont even have to deal with another season of him.

    But IMO, only the lazy or egomaniac young players that think they can win off sheer talent like a young Mike Vick, are guys you have to worry about developing..,.i cant think of too many cases in life where a bright, highly motivated person with talent busts his ass putting in the work, yet doesnt improve.. I struggle to see how that can even be possible, unless you are receiving poor coaching, and arent practicing the correct way…

    but lets forget about Nick Foles for a second. take you for example, I assume you dont have the talent and ceiling of a high level pro QB, but if the eagles were to take you today, and decide that chip kelly is going to work with you a bunch of ours every single day, if you put in the hard work, listen to the coaches, you probably wont ever be an NFL QB, but 8 months from now, i will assume that you have improved significantly since today…. I just dont understand how talented kid can work so hard, while receiving quality coaching and NOT improve. I dont even know how that can be possible…

    I dont expect the city to be 100% sold on Foles right now. but we wont know how good he can be til like his 4th, 5th year. While I dont expect an entire city to be sold on him at this point, I think people are friggin Insane for being ready to give up on him,. While I understand if you arent sold on him yet, I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can comfortably give up on him now. I do absolutely believe he showed enough, and provided enough instant gratification to warrant continuining to develop him and investing a year or two more of patience to find out exactly how much he will improve

  406. 406 Avery Greene said at 10:23 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    IMO, we only go after a QB next year if Foles gets hurt again.

  407. 407 Insomniac said at 10:34 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think so too. I don’t think Chip has given up on Foles yet despite all of these Mariota rumors.

  408. 408 Avery Greene said at 10:45 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    If Chip wants to be like Belichek (I think) it’s all a ruse to work his evil master plan. I can’t wait to see how this all plays out.

  409. 409 Insomniac said at 10:52 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    So he’ll trade down and hit on round 2/3 guys every 3 years??

  410. 410 Avery Greene said at 10:53 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    LOL – Let’s hope he does better. I’d like to see that every year.

  411. 411 Mitchell said at 10:58 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Me too man! I’m bubbling with excitement. Kinda like a school girl getting ready to go see One Direction!

  412. 412 Avery Greene said at 10:59 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    LOL – awesome and an apt description.

  413. 413 GEAGLE said at 11:40 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Hope so. To be honest I still don’t belive the Marriotta nonsense at all, never have, doubt I ever will. but I’m just as opposed to spending a top 100 pick on another QB. Should be spending money and dumping draft picks info building an offense and defense around Foles..,If they aren’t going to fully commit to
    Building the team around nick they might as well trade him.
    but if we get our heads out our ass and start dumping everything into giving Nick a top OL and and Top defense, put a superbowl contending team around Nick Foles, I have the outmost confidence in the kid. I don’t nevcessarily know how great he will be next year, but if he is allowed to gain experience and continue growing in this scheme, when he matures into a veteran QB around years 4-6, he will be a very good QB that We can win wth, I know it!

    Trading the farm for marriotta is absurd. We should be spending 1st Round pick HELPING Nick Foles by bolstering the Offense or Defense. I don’t see how anyone can want to see that and I don’t believe our head coach is dumb. This is the most physical game in the world, injuries play a major role in this game and the odds of ayers getting I kited in this game are not slim to none. I don’t care what NFLnplayer WR are talking about, we could be talking about JJ Watt my fav Player in the NFL and I still would never pay a kings ransom for JJ watt. Too easy to get injured in this game. Look at RG3. Traded their future away to a guy who couldn’t stay healthy for one single year, in this sport,!trading a ton for one player is what suckers do. Not only is there injury risk, but this is the ultimate team game and I don’t care if we are talking about the best players to ever at this game, you can’t do anything with out a strong team around you. This isn’t the NBA where one player changes everything…
    Some people don’t want to trade the farm for marriotta, but they want to draft Hundley in Round two, aka the ULTIMATE PIPE DREAM!!! Every QB needy team that can’t get Winston or Marriotta will all be waiting to fight each other over Hundley at the beginning of Round two, but that’s all fools gold because I guarantee one of the teams drooling over Hundley in the top 10 of round two, will trade back into the end of round 1, moving up from round two. They will overdraft Hundley and take him In the 25-30 range of Round 1, and the team will justify trading back into the end of round 1 to secure him because you get a 5th year option if you draft him in round 1, so the people who are planning on drafting Hundley In round Two need to call me up because I have a bridge for sale, real cheap!!! It’s a steal!!

  414. 414 Media Mike said at 7:09 AM on February 28th, 2015:


  415. 415 Anders said at 7:42 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    TJ Barrett
    Trevon Boykin
    Vernon Adams
    Jared Goff

  416. 416 Media Mike said at 7:50 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Goff is the only decent name on that list.

  417. 417 Anders said at 7:50 AM on March 1st, 2015:

    I think Adams can shoot up if he is great in that Ducks scheme. TJ Barrett was playing great before his injury

  418. 418 Media Mike said at 7:55 AM on March 1st, 2015:

    I’m not a far of either due to their aggregate level of running.

  419. 419 Raul Estrada said at 9:13 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Can you believe he caught a TD pass from Donovan McNabb at the goal line vs. Seattle of all teams?

    We sure could’ve used him in goal line situations.

  420. 420 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 9:42 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Todd Hairymans will never be replaced!

  421. 421 Avery Greene said at 10:04 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I know this is a football blog, but wow. Hextall took a haul for trading Timonen. Especially since he hasn’t played this year.

  422. 422 GEAGLE said at 10:20 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    happy for Kimo… he risking his body coming back for this last year, he deserves to spend his last season on a playoff team. quality deal by Hextall, sam hinkie would be proud…

  423. 423 Avery Greene said at 10:22 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yeah, tho as a person I’m worried about him coming back so quick. Best of luck to him, he deserves a Cup. Hope he retires a Flyer.

  424. 424 GEAGLE said at 10:44 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    i hear you. as a person, i would so much prefer he just retired now and not even risk another season, but if the guys is hell bent on returning, then im glad he is with a contender and i wish him the best. if we dont make the playoffs(which i hope we dont), ill be rooting hard for Kimo to win a cup and ride off into the retirement sunset

    the good part about this trade is it shows real chance in the way the franbchise is being ran and its about time… normally this time of year we are delusional, trying to make some trade that will help us contend for a cup. we are always “Buyers” this time of year… think this trade signifies a REAL CHANGE in how our front office will operate, and after so many years on the flyer hamster wheel, its about time…. tip my hat to Hexy for this move

  425. 425 Avery Greene said at 10:46 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    We agree on all points. I’m so worried about his health because that’s a serious ailment he has, one that has killed countless people.

    And yes, I think Hexy is moving in the right direction.

  426. 426 GEAGLE said at 10:48 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    yeah, believe me i would soooooooo soooooo much prefer him never again playing another game. hopefully he walks away healthy after this season…. kind of wish teams wouldnt let him play, but whatever. i would rather not get the draft picks in return andjust see him retire, but he is a stubborn man

  427. 427 Media Mike said at 7:08 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I agree, but why are Vinny, Coburn, and Grossmann still on this roster? Kimmo’s trade does nothing to reduce the cap for future years. Hexy has more work to do.

  428. 428 Anders said at 7:39 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Well one reason is that they aint good or has cap hits in future years

    I still think Coburn is moved and I hope Vinny is moved as well.

  429. 429 Media Mike said at 7:41 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Hexy absolutely needs to get some contracts of guys cleared out so we can add a winger who can score while opening up spots for our future Norris Trophy D men to come up from the minors.

  430. 430 Anders said at 7:43 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Problem is if nobody is willing to take on those contracts.

    I think with Vinny, we have to retain some of his salary

  431. 431 Media Mike said at 7:48 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    That is why we pay the GM the big money. Those deals absolutely need to get done. Those guys MUST be gone. I don’t care if they’re for 4th or 5th round draft picks from teams.

    If a stiff like Mezajaros got us back 3rd at the deadline, I know the Flyers can get another D man or two out of hear for lesser compensation than that.

    Coburn, Grossmann and Schenn, limitations and all, are still better players than that piece of human excrement Matt Carle……….and make about $1 – $2 mil less for next year. So they’re not that overpriced for 2015-16 as the final year of their deals.

    Getting Vinny out of here is going to be a very difficult thing due to his horrible contract (also why I don’t see us being able to move MacDonald), but I expect it to happen.

  432. 432 Avery Greene said at 8:43 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I think it will happen. Even if we got low draft picks, it’s better to get rid of the contracts altogether. That may happen this offseason.

  433. 433 Avery Greene said at 10:08 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I think Williams staying is dependent on Maxwell. We got the money to sign him, and save even more if we cut Williams. Sign Maxwell = cut Williams. Don’t sign Maxwell = angst next season watching Cary mess up.

  434. 434 GEAGLE said at 10:38 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    im not sure about that, because chip is a very classy guy, who will care about the future of his former players and coaches, and the classy franchises typically wont screw you and release you too late when most teams did all their signings and spent most of their cap space…. If i had to bet on it, I would bet that we learn Cary’s fate before the free agent market opens. If free agency starts, and Cary is still an Eagle, id put my money on him lasting one more year….
    Im pretty open to whatever they decide with C-dub aka Cary “Bad cop” Williams. cutting him is fine with me, keeping him another year is perfectly fine with me…part of me would LOVE to finally see him play without Chung or Nate being on the field… If we were to go for a stud safety like Searcy, Id be pretty confident going into the season with Cary, Searcy, Jenkins, and Nolan Carroll
    Obviously my ideal best case scenario for next years secondary is:
    Maxwell, Searcy, Jenkins, Nolan…. but i dont feel very confident about seeing both Max and Searcy signed…..

    I would rather sign Searcy and a cheaper corner like Davon House to compete with Nolan and Cary for 1 year, instead of signing Maxwell, and a cheaper safety like Gilchrist to compete with Nate or wolff for 1 yr…

    but at the end of the DAY, WE NEED A SERIOUS TALENT UPGRADE in our secondary, and truth is both Maxwell and Searcy could help us in a major way
    1 thing i hate about Maxwell is people saying that he is over rated because he was playing with such great players in the legion of boom. I find that notion to be absurd. If anything, because of how great sherm,Earl and Kam are, i assume every single QB that had to play Seattle went into the game intent on trying to pick on Maxwell since the other DBs are so damn good. I think Maxwell gets tested a ton because !Bs wont even look sherms way, and for him to only allow 1 TD is very impressive as far as im concerned..
    But Searcy equally impressed me. He had a big hand in the only secondary that gave up less passing TDs then anyone includingt he famous legion of boom…and to be so solid, and aggressive without getting flagged for a single penalty all year, I would let you raise my taxes to help pay for Searcys salary….thinking Searcy/Jenkins would be one of the best Safety tandems in the NFC….
    as long s Maxwell keeps being rumored to the eagles, Ill never hear any Da’norris Searcy Eagles rumors Sigh… 🙁

  435. 435 wee2424 said at 10:56 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    I agree about the classy. However this is a business for grown men. You can be classy as possible untill it affects bussines. If letting Williams go betters the team after FA has started then by all means he and the FO will do it. Cary may be pissed, but he is a man and deep down he will understand.

  436. 436 GEAGLE said at 10:38 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    yeah we’ll see about that… i dont believe it, tho I would love to be wrong because i agree that would be better for us

  437. 437 Mac said at 10:51 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    So I guess we’ll see williams with a star on his helmet next year?

  438. 438 GermanEagle said at 8:42 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Cary will get the Chung treatment. It doesn’t get classier than that.

  439. 439 Media Mike said at 7:06 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Nothing wrong with a two step approach.

    Especially because we can cut DeMeco to get $6.9 million back before we sign Maxwell or any other corner.

  440. 440 Avery Greene said at 10:43 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Just when I thought this show couldn’t get any better, it did. The season premier of Vice was AWESOME!!! Fascinating, interesting, to the point I put the laptop down.

    If you have HBO, watch the season premier.

  441. 441 GEAGLE said at 10:46 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    thanks for the tip, def going to check it out…Love the HBO 6 part series “Jinxed” the story of that psycho Bob Durst…if you havent seen the first 3 episodes yet, you should catch up

  442. 442 Avery Greene said at 10:49 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Dude, thanks. I’ve been skeptical, but this will push me to check it out. My wife loves murder stuff, so we’ll check it out together.

  443. 443 GEAGLE said at 10:54 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Yeah I didn’t expect to like it either, but it won’t take you and your lady long to get hooked at all. 3 episodes have aired already, I’d bet if you watch 15 minutes of the 1st episode you will be caught up in time to watch part 4 on Sunday live… It’s really good, and the guy is a creeper and I like that he is being interviewed and asked hard questions throughout the entire series.. It’s really worth the time. Dudes a creep lol

    Citizen four was also pretty good, the documentary of snowden, the Nsa wistle blower,

  444. 444 Avery Greene said at 10:57 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    Not a fan of Snowden, but then again I work in Security.

  445. 445 Media Mike said at 7:05 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    And I’m not a fan of Bush II and Obama using a bogus legal interpretation of “Commander and Chief” powers to violate the 4th Amendment.

    There are a ton of valid criticisms of Snowden, but the Bill of Rights and exposing governmental misconduct should trump the criticisms about Snowden.

  446. 446 Avery Greene said at 8:48 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I think there’s a lot of blame to go around, though Snowden I think was really reckless.

    In the end, I think people’s anger/blame are misplaced. I think the Executive Branch acted within what the law provided. If people are upset with what’s happening, it needs to change in Congress where these laws were put into place.

    I think anyone who works in government will tell you (at least if honest) that it could work better and that there were some mistakes. But that’s in any large institution. Companies are already spying on you, but I much prefer working with our government to create that fine line of privacy/security than leaving us open to be spied on more by other countries.

    Everyone is doing it, and personally I think the US is behind. But I trust their motives a lot more than Russia who allows gangs to steal millions from other countries or China who has been spending money for years on hackers to infiltrate foreign government and business to steal intellectual property.

  447. 447 LookLikeTarzanPlayLikeTarzanAl said at 10:53 PM on February 27th, 2015:

    ” Please let him go anywhere outside the NFC East so I can enjoy seeing him with his new team.”

    Hear, hear!

  448. 448 Media Mike said at 7:31 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    So when will other shoes drop on cuts / salary reductions for:

    Trent Cole ( up to $8.4 in savings)
    Cary Williams (up to $6.5 in savings)
    DeMeco Ryans ( up to $6.9 in savings)
    Brent Celek (up to $4.8 in savings)

    To me, cutting Ryans should be a no-brainer due to serious questions about his ability to provide any level of decent play coming off of a serious injury. +$6.9

    Cole, almost assuredly, should be a cut given the ability to find a ton of guys who can provide at least 6.5 sacks at OLB. +$8.4 ($15.3 total)

    Cary, as folks have pointed out below, would be wise as a two step process of either cut/reduction based on who can be signed as a free agent. If we can get a top guy like Maxwell and a mid-level guy like Culliver, cut Cary. If we can only get one guy, reduce Cary. I’ll say reduction of $4 million on his contract. +$4 ($19.3 total)

    Celek put up 32-340-1 last year. I’M NOT PAYING $4.8 MIL / TD, OR $150,000 / CATCH or $14,000 / YARD. $4.8 is far too much to pay a blocking TE. Celek can take a $2 mil haircut. ($21.3 total)

    So I think we can still add another $21 mi to our current $27 mil worth of room.

    Being $48 mil under will give us some serious advantages in front-loading deals………………………..or biting the bullet at WR and getting Cooper out of here a year early.

  449. 449 Anders said at 7:38 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I think Celek stays untouced. Remember how much Kelly value his run blocking and pass pro (Celek is one of few TEs who can pass block against pass rushers)

  450. 450 Media Mike said at 7:40 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    You’re most likely correct, but darn near $5 mil is a lot to pay a guy to block from TE.

  451. 451 BreakinAnklez said at 8:24 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I’d love to see Cole retire as an Eagle…thing is, we don’t need the space from Cole really. Yea, it’d be nice if we were going to go and try to splurge…

    I think they’ll wait to see what happens with Franchise/Transition tags before we see anymore cuts.

  452. 452 Media Mike said at 8:27 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    He’s welcome to retire right now in that case, but I want that money.

  453. 453 KAJomo said at 10:54 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I dont think this thinking is valid the way the caps works now. We roll over any unused cap to next year. While we may not need that space no we may next year when we need to extend All of those guys we dont re-sign this year and those that are eligible to be re-signed after their 3rd year next year. Cox, Kendricks, Possibly Foles, Ertz, Logan, Thornton, Polk, Curry, L. johnson. Not all of these guys will remain eagles, but you can see that keeping cole at his current number is short sigted. Even the Herremans move only save us 2 mil this year, but we are free and clea of his contract next year. That matters in the long run.

  454. 454 BreakinAnklez said at 11:33 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    We can cut Cole next year too and get $11M of free cap, with only $1M of dead money. Next year is important, but really no need to cut him now. No real $ savings for next year if you cut him this year.

  455. 455 Media Mike said at 11:41 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    He next the team $8.4 mil to cut him now. That can be rolled into the future if we need it, but there is also value in moving on now and getting a younger guy snaps at the position (Smith II) to give you that same 6.5 sack production. If Cole was still a 10+ sack player, I wouldn’t be looking to OJ knife his contract.

  456. 456 KAJomo said at 12:33 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    The 8.4 mil we save now can be rolled over + the 1mil we save from not having dead money next year. 9.4 mil would be nice to have as we try to lock up those young players. As I commented above I think we need either cole or graham this year, but my point is whenever we can save money it is in our best interested to do so becauseit helps us long term

  457. 457 Insomniac said at 2:29 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    You can almost pay Devin McCourty that much each year.

  458. 458 Avery Greene said at 8:52 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I think they’re waiting to see how the first few days play out.

  459. 459 Media Mike said at 8:59 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Absolutely nothing wrong with that approach.

  460. 460 KAJomo said at 10:50 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Cole is the tough case. I think he will take a large pay cut to stay. If that happens we sign a guy like brooks reed. If he’s gone I think we need Graham. I know people like Worilds, but I doubt ayone watches him play. He has zero production rushing off the right side. He is strictly a LOLB , Barwin’s current spot and he is nowhere near as productiveir comeplete as BArwin. i am reluctant to move Barwin from a spot where he has had so much success. Sheard isnt a natural OLb. orakpo is injury prone. The best options are currently on our roster.

    No reason to get rid of cooper a year ealy. If Matthews or maclin go down he will be a useful fill in. We dont save anything by cutting him, so it doesnt make any sense.

    Meco should be gone. Re-sign Matthews and draft A guys like Stephone Anthiny in the 3rd and we will be fine.

    I 100% agree on Cary.

    celek is here one more year. We are spending nothing at the TE position right now with Ertz and Burton on rookie deals. Next year we extend Ertz and roll over Celek’s salary into tha number.

  461. 461 Media Mike said at 11:31 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I’d love to cut Cole and get the whole number back unless he’s interested in playing for a very steep reduction to get his cap number for the year even to the money we’d have dead if we cut him. He’d be $3.2 of dead if we cut his $10 mil base. If we don’t cut him his cap charge starts at a $1.6 prorated bonus, so he’s welcome to play for a salary of $1.6 mil.

    I agree 100% on Worilds, so I’d sign Brooks Reed no matter what. He can play both inside and outside. I’d plan on playing him next to Kendricks at ILB because no matter who we draft at ILB, they’re not a day 1 starter. I’d also sign Sheard to play ROLB.

    That would give us a LB mix of Barwin, Kenricks, Reed, Sheard, Smith II, draft pick, and two of Goode / Long / Acho / Braman to be our active 8 LBs with a total of 10 on the 53.

    Cole can stay in place of the use of one of those bottom guys if he’d like to play for that $1.6.

    I want no parts of Matthews in this LB mix again EVER.

    Anthony would be a killer pick and would be ideal for the “draft pick” I placed in the LB mix.

    Celek, even with being final year and all, isn’t worth $4.8. All cap savings can be rolled into future years, so I want money back from him.

  462. 462 anon said at 12:26 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    They’re about to give meco an extension — kelly clearly has his favorites

  463. 463 GEAGLE said at 5:02 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    there are just some players in a locker room that you dont fuck with… mufasa fits that bill..

  464. 464 anon said at 12:25 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    better add mccoy in there

  465. 465 A_T_G said at 7:31 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    According to reports drifting in, Tommy Lawlor was last seen getting into Todd Herreman’s black van, as photographed by Baloophi. This has sparked debate as to his current whereabouts. Observers tell of Dave Spadaro knocking on the van windows while it was parked outside the Novacare complex for 40 minutes, yelling, “Hey, it’s me Dave. Let me in.” According to some passerbys, the response from inside the van was, “Dave? Dave’s not here right now.” followed by giggling. Statements have been taken and police have been alerted to keep watch for a man carrying a mostly empty Funyons bag and wearing either a gold and white or black and blue outfit.

  466. 466 Media Mike said at 7:33 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I had credible reports of the van traveling west following this route.


  467. 467 A_T_G said at 7:37 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    There have also been conflicting reports as to their destination.


  468. 468 eagleyankfan said at 12:26 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Has a silver apart been posted?

  469. 469 Media Mike said at 7:44 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Here’s a nice Sat morning mock!

    Round 1 Pick 24 (ARI): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 2 Pick 23 (ARI): Hauoli Kikaha, OLB/DE, Washington (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Ameer Abdullah, RB, Nebraska (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 3 (JAX): Alex Carter, CB, Stanford (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 26 (BALT): Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (A)
    Round 4 Pick 4 (JAX): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (C)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Nick O’Leary, TE, Florida State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Leterrius Walton, DT, Central Michigan (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (B+)

  470. 470 BreakinAnklez said at 8:26 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Round 1 Pick 22 (PITT): Alvin Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (B)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Joey Mbu, DT, Houston (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Ben Heeney, ILB, Kansas (B)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse (B)
    Round 7 Pick 20: James Sample, SS, Louisville (B)

  471. 471 Media Mike said at 8:28 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I like it.

    Especially with Petty!

  472. 472 Media Mike said at 11:39 AM on February 28th, 2015:


    Round 1 Pick 20: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Ben Koyack, TE, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Leterrius Walton, DT, Central Michigan (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Max Valles, OLB, Virginia (A)

  473. 473 BreakinAnklez said at 4:48 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 20: Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Ty Montgomery, WR, Stanford (A)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Max Valles, OLB, Virginia (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Blake Sims, QB, Alabama (B)

  474. 474 Avery Greene said at 8:51 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    I like the thought of Clemmings and Marpet. We really need oline help. I’m surprised by the high pick of a RB, though with Chip anything can happen.

  475. 475 Media Mike said at 8:58 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Abdullah provides an excellent successor for everything Shady does in this system, but can provide those services at a fraction of the cost after another season or two if we decided to move on from Shady. He would provide a better slate of plays relative to Sproles while also being a better long-term investment.

  476. 476 GermanEagle said at 8:38 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    With ‘Herremans out’ fetching 450+ comments, how many would we see with ‘Mariota in’?!

  477. 477 Media Mike said at 9:00 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    In an unrelated matter, could you use your futbol expertise to tell me who I need to ask to kill themselves on West Ham for this disgusting 2-0 deficit to garbage Chrystal Palace? This is unacceptable!

  478. 478 Media Mike said at 9:05 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    3-0 now. I demand seppuku from somebody on West Ham.

  479. 479 GermanEagle said at 9:09 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    That’s. Not. Good.

    But at least WH is safe, while 1860 Munich must watch out for Relegation.

  480. 480 Media Mike said at 9:12 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Safe is great, I agree. But I still want somebody to kill themselves. Palace sucks.

  481. 481 OldDuckMcDoc said at 9:09 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    If in doubt, blame Andy Carroll. Doesn’t matter that he isn’t playing.

  482. 482 Media Mike said at 9:11 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    He needs to be sold to the Union so I can hate on his frequent avoidance of play in a closer environment.

  483. 483 OldDuckMcDoc said at 9:13 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    He’s like an injury-prone, futboling Riley.

    Cashed in on one good season, tries to make up for lack of talent with size, acts douchenozzley, looks douchenozzley. But has impressive hair.

  484. 484 Media Mike said at 9:13 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Too true.

  485. 485 unhinged said at 11:07 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    It’s the time of the season…

  486. 486 SuPaFrO said at 12:28 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    When love runs high. ..

  487. 487 unhinged said at 1:36 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Zombies – 1969?

  488. 488 oreofestar said at 9:45 PM on February 28th, 2015:


  489. 489 jshort said at 8:57 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Acho’s going to the prom.

  490. 490 Avery Greene said at 9:07 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Such a cool story.

  491. 491 Greg Richards said at 2:10 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I don’t know. If any other 25 year old escorted a 16-year old to prom, it’d be creepy.

  492. 492 GEAGLE said at 11:55 AM on February 28th, 2015:

    Domo is claiming the eagles want to sign Meco to an extension… Im pretty certain Meco will be here, i just have no clue how they will go about keeing him in terms of contract. i know we wont ask him to take a paycut.. guess an extension is almost the same as restructuring.. awesome news.. if we are going to invest in a rookie ILB, love having Meco here to tutor him

  493. 493 GermanEagle said at 12:45 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Cannot see the Eagles paying him $6m per year without asking him to take a pay cut. I love Demeco, but he’s on the wrong side of 30 coming off a serious injury.

  494. 494 GEAGLE said at 2:45 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I assume they lower his Cap numbers, and dont believe Meco is in any danger of not being here next year, so I havent given much thought to the restructure, extension, whatever they want to do to get that cap number down. Im sure they will make changes to the contract, but I dont think he is in any danger of not being here next year

  495. 495 Greg Richards said at 2:09 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I do think they’ll ask him to take a pay-cut. You can give him a new contract of 3 years, $10M with around $4M guaranteed. More money than he would likely receive elsewhere and you reduce his cap hit significantly. Gives him security versus now where he could be cut at any time. Even potentially after the draft whenall the other FAs have signed elsewhere and cap room league-wide has dried up.

  496. 496 anon said at 12:24 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Tommy can we get a new thread?

    Also reporting that they could cut mccoy if he doesn’t take a pay cut (makes that trade not seem so far fetched), also reports CJ spiller not headed back to the bills. You know what would be hilarious — if we just paid for AP.

  497. 497 Insomniac said at 12:55 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I’m still waiting for that DB combine thread. AP would be crazy though.

  498. 498 unhinged said at 1:34 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    2 years older than Spiller, beats his kid, and Eagles tried to get Spiller last year.

  499. 499 Insomniac said at 1:46 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Unless we can get him for under 5 million then I don’t want him. He’s been healthy for like 2 seasons.

  500. 500 Greg Richards said at 2:12 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Matt Lombardo of NJ.com(I know) is saying that he expects a surprise cut on Monday. Everyone is going to say McCoy, but my first thought is Nolan Carrroll. If you don’t think he’s capable of starting at outside CB, then $2.9M is a lot to pay a dime back.

  501. 501 Mac said at 2:14 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I thought he was an ILB?

  502. 502 Greg Richards said at 2:21 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Nolan Carroll is a CB. Mainly played dime back for the Eagles which plays closer to the line of scrimmage like a LB.

  503. 503 GEAGLE said at 11:15 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    he is an outside Corner who we used as our Dime corner, because boykin is our nickel corner.
    put it to you this way, when we are in nickel we use 4 lineman 2 LBs and 5 defensive backs… when we are in Dime we remove 1 of the LB and play with 6 defensive backs, so when we are in dime, since we only have 1 ILB in the game, even tho Nolan was a slot dime corner, he lined up often looking like a LB near kendricks.. but he was never a LB… we signed him as an outside corner and last year was the first time we ever played him inside. i assume Nolan starts at outside corner this year while jaylen watkins replaces him as the quasi LB dime corner

  504. 504 GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    that would really really really surprise me. He is better than we have seen, and we asked him to play a role he never played before last year and was solid. Cant imagine why they would want to cut Nolan…and he is also pretty darn good ST player…. i dont buy it… but we’ll see

  505. 505 Greg Richards said at 2:46 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Hard to think of anyone else that would qualify as a surprise. McCoy has been mentioned enough by others that it wouldn’t qualify as a surprise. You don’t really save any cap room by cutting Jason Peters. Not that I would. I suppose Mathis would be a long-shot. Celek makes some sense as $4.8M is a lot to pay a guy who is essentially a blocking TE at this point but he’s Chip’s boy. The only way I would see them cutting him is so he and his agent can see they won’t make any more anywhere else than what the Eagles are offering in a restructure.

  506. 506 GEAGLE said at 2:55 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    thats assuming what Lombardo is saying is factual. Tho i do think he is easily the only NJ.com writer worth paying attention to…surprise cut doesnt necessarily have to be about money.. maybe chip is fed up with Cooper after the stupid remarks about Maclins contract. it wouldnt help our Cap, but the surprise cut can be someone maybe chip just doesnt want here any more…MAYBE he is tired of Earl Wolff or Jeff Mahl… Dare I say Darren Sproles? that would annoy me..
    Of course there is always the Celek possibility which wont surprise me at all, since we are going to have to reconfigure the TE’s in the near future anyway with Casey gone and Celek getting Old…Evan Mathis?
    i think Nolan is the best outside CB on our Roster, and fans have seen him just scratch the surface, we need to Build CB depth, not add Max and then Subtract Nolan… nolan is extremely valuable to chip i assume, Real good ST player, he was with coach Fipp at Miami, all his experience before this year was outside corner, yet he managed to hold down the dime spot and get experience as an inside corner. He even said he is willing to play Safety. High Character guy, nice athlete… I dont see him getting cut at all… but who knows.

  507. 507 anon said at 7:48 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    He loves Sproles, Celek, Meco, Peters, those guys are gold. I mean if they’re extending Meco i think all those guys are safe.

  508. 508 BreakinAnklez said at 4:40 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    If you want to talk about a surprise…what about Peters? Didn’t apprar to have the typical Peters year. Getting older, high cap number, Lane was drafted as his replacement…

  509. 509 GEAGLE said at 4:59 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    doubt it, just paid him and eagles coaches know how banged up he was with injuries down the stretch… that man doesnt make excuses, for him to talk about the lingering issues he was playing thru late in the year, i assume it played a role in the decline, especially when seeing a drop off in play late in the year… accumulating injuries would explain that. i dont like punishing studs for warrioring thru injuries. we were trying to make a playoff run in december, peters witness a year of OL injuries, i respect that he was still out there fighting for us down the stretch, more than i hold it against him for not being able to overcome the lingering injuiries and play as well as he normally does…
    I assume the coaches were more impressed with his toughness, then down on his late season play….but who knows

  510. 510 BreakinAnklez said at 5:21 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I don’t think they are not do I want them to…hence a surprise. I doubt it’s McCoy…I just can’t see us ditching our top two playmakers in back to back seasons

  511. 511 Greg Richards said at 6:49 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Doubtful. Would only gain $1.05M in cap room and would have $8M in dead money on the books.

  512. 512 anon said at 7:41 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    no way.

  513. 513 FairOaks said at 5:31 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Celek maybe?

  514. 514 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Could be.

  515. 515 anon said at 7:42 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    no way. They’re talking about extending Meco, i think celek is on that level of kelly loving him.

  516. 516 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on February 28th, 2015:


  517. 517 wee2424 said at 6:24 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I was going to say Ryan’s or Celek. Carroll possibly, but I doubt that. Williams wouldn’t be much of a surprise. Maybe Sproles? I highly doubt it but if you really think about it it’s a possibility. He is set to make 4.2 million this year as a backup that really doesn’t see many touches. You already have a lot of money invested at RB with McCoys contract, and he is unwilling to take a pay cut. Sproles is old by RB standards, and he would be easier to replace then McCoy. Deep RB draft class. Just a thought to add to the other possibilities that would be considered surprising and not already listed.

  518. 518 Greg Richards said at 6:57 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    As an update, I think Lombardo was referring to Riley Cooper. While it wasn’t directly related to his previous tweet, he later tweeted that something to watch was that if Cooper was designated on June 1st cut then he would only count $3.8M against the 2015 cap while his 2015 cap charge would be $6.2M if not designated a June 1st cut. The thing about that is when teams designate a player a June 1st cut they don’t actually receive the cap room gained by releasing the player until June 1st. The reason they started allowing teams to designate players a June 1st cut instead of actually having to wait until June 1st to cut the players was so that those players could find new teams early. Regardless, in Cooper’s case the only difference is that if you didn’t designate him a June 1st cut there’d be a net cap hit against the Eagles by cutting him of about $1M while if they designated him a June 1st cut there’d be a net cap savings of around $1M. The other $2.4M would count against the 2016 cap. That isn’t the way the Eagles have traditionally done business, borrowing from the future to gain cap room in the present. There’s a new sheriff in town though so past precedent might not be relevant. Regardless, from a cap standpoint there’s little benefit from cutting Cooper either way. The only reason you’d cut him is if you’re tired of his antics and think he’s a detriment to team chemistry or from the simple business perspective you don’t think his performance is worth his salary irregardless of the cap.

  519. 519 anon said at 7:41 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Cut people whose salary doesn’t match production. Maybe we get brandon marshall.

  520. 520 Greg Richards said at 7:48 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I don’t think we’d go after another WR so expensive. I’d keep an eye on Stevie Johnson when the 49ers release him.

  521. 521 anon said at 7:49 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    yeah agree, good route running, also good red zone, right size. will be cheap unless he goes to jets.

  522. 522 BlindChow said at 9:26 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Definitely not worth getting another high-priced WR. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for people to see that it’s not great receiving corps that get you into the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay fans probably LOVED having Vincent Jackson and Mike Evans.

  523. 523 oreofestar said at 9:44 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    We wouldn’t cut McCoy now it doesn’t make sense I guess Celek or Ryans u less you consider Trent or Cary surprises which I wouldnt

  524. 524 GermanEagle said at 2:36 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    The Eagles better not cut one of their playmakers on O without anything in return again…!

  525. 525 Insomniac said at 2:52 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    It’ll be hilarious to see an article by Elliot Shorr-Parker about Riley Cooper having ties to the KKK.

  526. 526 Greg Richards said at 2:54 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    If they let Jeff Maehl go, we boycott!

  527. 527 GEAGLE said at 3:09 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    sharpening my pitchfork as we speak, just in case they cut Maehl

  528. 528 GEAGLE said at 3:07 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Kind of find it funny that after watching the dallas cowboys be the joke of the decade, they finally put a top OL together, and it ended up fixing all their problems. Romo had his best year in a while, The RB had his best year, the OL tricked the public into thinking Dallas had a good defense when in reality the Ol/run game was just able to hide the defense…
    so as fans of cowboys Rivals we just witnessed how damn important an OL is, and the effects it can have on so many other positions on the team…. yet we watch our Ol in shambles to where Shady could barely gain 30 yards, and people are ready to give up on Nick after a year behind as big of an OL mess as we could imagine….
    we saw how great foles and shady played in 2013 when our OL was elite
    we saw the dallas Cowboys be a joke of the decade when their OL was average at best
    we just saw Dallas have its best season in years, with the best OL they have had in years..
    so by now we should have plenty of lessons about the importance of the OL, yet we are ready to move on for Foles because people didnt like how he looked when he was busy winning games behind a disaster of an OL? LOL…..INTERESTING! fortunately I take solace knowing that our coach knows better…
    leave the QB nonsense alone, “If we build a top OL, the quality QB play will come”-field of dreams

  529. 529 GEAGLE said at 3:23 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Domo says we arent far apart on a contract with Maclin, and that Maclin is doing all his workouts in Philly and even went to an eagle charity event today or yesterday wearing an Eagles jersey……. Eagles will never let him get to the open market, and if we cant sign him we will franchise Tag him on monday, but he wont ever see that franchise tag money. If we tag him its just to buy more time to continue negotiating with him, but in the end Mac isnt going anywhere and he will sign a 4-5 yr extension to remain in midnight green

  530. 530 Media Mike said at 5:38 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    5 years / $45 million……………….or see ya.

  531. 531 BreakinAnklez said at 6:41 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Fine with me. He earned it this year.

  532. 532 Media Mike said at 6:44 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I agree. I just can’t pay Maclin more than Jordy Nelson is getting per year from Green Bay.


  533. 533 Mitchell said at 8:11 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Why not though? Jordy only had about 200 more receiving yards, 5 more receptions and 3 more tds. He did that all with Arron Rodgers. Maclin is also 2 years younger and, I would argue, more clutch. Nelson had some key drops this year while Maclin had some key catches.

  534. 534 anon said at 8:15 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    so like 15% more production?

  535. 535 Mitchell said at 9:16 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    If we had Aaron Rodgers as a qb, Maclin would have probably gotten several more 40+ yard receptions and beaten out Nelson. We just weren’t super reliable getting the ball downfield, especially with Sanchez.

  536. 536 OregonDucker said at 9:23 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Good point.

  537. 537 oreofestar said at 9:40 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Also we can compare the deals exactly since the cap is up 10mil

  538. 538 BlindChow said at 9:27 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Also, Maclin had to do it with considerably worse QB play. He would have lit it up in Green Bay.

  539. 539 ICDogg said at 3:32 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I am trying not to overreact, but it seems like just a few months ago everything seemed to be moving ahead to building a legitimate contending team, and now it (rightly or wrongly) feels like all hell is breaking loose.

  540. 540 lewis don said at 3:36 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I feel the same way, except instead of “All hell breaking loose” it feels more uncertain.
    I mean we don’t know with the draft and improvements of players and free agency

  541. 541 ICDogg said at 3:42 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    A lot of it is based on rumors, no doubt. But the overwhelming feeling I can’t get over is pretty much Kempski’s scenario:


  542. 542 lewis don said at 3:49 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Lol, what you find disturbing about that scenario? I see Jason Worldlis, Byron Maxwell (HATE HIS NAME, STUPID NAME), I see letting some people go they probably should.
    I was an avid Foles backer, but now almost one injury from injury prone, not that impressed with last year. Im not mad if you get mariota and you address other positions through free agency.
    Im assuming trading next five years is exaggerated.
    Now chip in control…Im skeptical of chip. I like him. I don’t love his program.
    But I respect the buy in. im not for hoping from coach to coach.
    I didn’t like his goaline play calling last year.
    Let me put it this way, im a fan of football play calling where you know your better and you dare the other team to stop you.
    The trickery stuff is useful, but I saw far too much of it from chip Kelly than I can personally stomach.
    Your on the goaline, power it in and sparingly use trickery to keep the other team honest.

  543. 543 ICDogg said at 3:52 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I dunno, maybe that plan seems a little Dan Snyder-ish to me.

  544. 544 lewis don said at 4:21 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I can see that. But When I think of Dan Snyder, think of bad free agency pickups and way too many. Before Sean Taylor Died, the redskins had a really good defense at times.
    I guess I have a list of players we should replace and my list is getting shorter.
    Except james casey. I really think he was under utilized and I am talking not considering his contract price. I think he was a strong tight end/hback and I cant figure out why we didn’t use him more.
    I guess he was undersized, or maybe the QBs didn’t develop chemistry with him, how sanchez came in and maclin didn’t have the same production all of a sudden cause sanchez had more chemistry with other WRs.

  545. 545 wee2424 said at 6:10 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    Do you mean you would like it more if it was just ran in for a TD? I think Chip would have loved to do that, but it’s hard when your Oline is decimated. I’m not sure what you really mean of trickery.

  546. 546 lewis don said at 7:27 AM on March 1st, 2015:

    Is it harder on ethe one yard line to run a power running play with your oline decimated or to call a play action play with a crossing route coming out of the backside? I mean I feel if your oline is decimated, the power run is simpler. I dont get that. Trickery is trying to call the unepected play on any giving down, which is fine, but someitmes, if your one the one yard line, you just run the ball. Ive seen teams get stuffed doing that, but sometimes chip wouldnt run the ball but once. and also, the read option was weak. IF your gonna use that play, the quarterback has to have established that he may run the ball. Then again Im not a expert. so idk

  547. 547 wee2424 said at 12:04 PM on March 1st, 2015:

    I think our definition of trickery is different. Trying to outsmart the other side is just football. Reverses and flea flickers are trickery. The one yard line is a bit of an exaggeration. I don’t recall ever having to kick a field goal from the one yard line, meaning if we got to the one we got in the end zone. The problem has been from a few yards out. Like from the three to the ten. At that point our interior Oline was so decimated that if the D prepared heavily for the run the RB had a good chance getting dropped for a loss. McCoy averaged 2.8 ypc for a month earlier in the year, that was due to poor interior line play. The penetration the D was getting on the interior line was devastating for the good part of the season.

  548. 548 lewis don said at 9:58 AM on March 2nd, 2015:

    My problem is that that team last year should have been able to run a dive or any power run play from 10 yards or less and get it in the endzone. I love McCoy, but his running style, he doesn’t get the extra yard.
    The math is like this. If I can get more than three yards per run, that is a near unstoppable basis of your football strategy. Im saying, for whatever reason our short yardage game (10 yards and under) was missing last year.
    Even if your interior line is decimated, which it was, isn’t that a bigger reason to go with a bigger back in those situations?
    McCoy’s poor play cannot be based on just the line. Because there are backs playing with bad lines that are able to run and get hit and bounce forward for that extra yard. That is not in MCcoys game. For the most part, 9 times out of 10 he is going down if he gets hit and hes not getting that extra inch, which if he was bigger that 2.8 could edge up to 3.2/3.3 and then your more of a threat 10 yards out.
    Last year we relied on the extended part of the game (the playaction, the read option, etc) because that basic part was missing. Im saying I think, and we saw polk come in and do exactly what we thought with the same decimated line if im remembering correctly. Im saying maybe the coach was underestimating that basic part of his offense which imo impaired his decision making.
    But then again, im not a nfl coach, so idk.

  549. 549 wee2424 said at 2:00 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    I agree about Shady, and I agree Polk was definitely under utilized. The man has a nose for the end zone and is a giant bowling ball. I just think Chip lost so much confidence in his interior line that he thought Polk may even get stuffed. The problem may have been that the penetration was getting so bad that Polk wouldn’t have had the momentum to truly break the tackle. If Polk is in the game you pretty much knew it would be a run up the middle. Defense would just A gap blitz.

  550. 550 lewis don said at 2:05 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    Couldn’t have said that any better. agree 100

  551. 551 wee2424 said at 6:07 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I don’t understand that. We went into the season knowing CB would need to be upgraded. We weren’t sure if Maclin would be a legit number 1 receiver. He is. We now know we have a very good front 7. Regardless of the Ryan’s injury we knew would need to be looking for a replacement this off season. We knew the Oline was getting old. We now know Jenkins can play. Foles is the one big question mark, but he was last off season also. To me the uncertainty level hasn’t really changed all that much. Chip calling all of the shots is the one BIG uncertainty, but it may be a good thing.

  552. 552 lewis don said at 7:21 AM on March 1st, 2015:

    For me, CB went from Servicable to our number one is getting beat almost every play in some games. I knew we had to upgrade, but I definately thought before last season that we could draft a FS early and bring a CB along, drafting one later. Ive heard that Maclin is a legitamite number one. Do I see that. I saw some spectacular plays and some consistency. But for me I expect alot more from that label. I mean, I think of legitimate number one as Boldin in the playoffs when the ravens won. T. Owens. Is maclin that good….I see him as an excellent possession reciever with good speed. But what our entire recieving corps lacks is Seperation and Running after the catch. Except for Huff, he has potential.

    Very good front 7….I mean, I guess. I love B. Allen. I thought they played well. But again, they havent impressed me to that level of very good. They are just good in my book. Id like to see them get bigger on the line and they still need to get more pressure consistently. They excel in the run game, but very good to me would be better production in the passing game. or better impact consistently.

    We know jenkins can play. I never doubted he could play. But I would be lying if I didnt say I expected more in the way of capitalizing on big plays over the season. His impact needs to be bigger next season.

    Foles is an even bigger question mark this year. He has yet to finish a full season. I expected at least that last year.

    Then add Chips power increase. So maybe this clarifies my concerns and why im more uncertain this year.

    I mean Drafting with this team is very difficult.

  553. 553 wee2424 said at 12:47 PM on March 1st, 2015:

    Maclin runs extremely smooth routes with good cuts. He gets good separation. His YAC was like 6.8 I believe which is also good. Owens is a HOFer, you can be a good number one WR without being that. As far as Boldin making big catches in the playoffs, Maclin made some outstanding sideline catches which kept us in games or won games. He was also very clutch on third down. His consistency was far better then Boldins the year Boldin won the SB. To add, I’m not even sure if Maclin registered a single drop all year. That’s huge. Maclin played with two QBs, and one of them was Mark Sanchez. His stats with Foles under center all year would have been even better. I can count at least 3 times Maclin had great separation on a go route and he was missed by yards. Look at the majority of the best WR this year. They all had very good to franchise QBs throwing to them for the most part. That makes Maclins numbers even more respectable. He isn’t Calvin Johnson. What he is is a WR that has play making ability combined with the ability of being a great possession receiver. He does everything at a high level, not just outstanding at one thing.

  554. 554 lewis don said at 10:07 AM on March 2nd, 2015:

    First, i agree, he is good, love maclin. But His YAC is inflated. Im not including catches where he catches it in wide open space and outruns the coverage.
    Im talking about catching a 2 yard pass and breaking a couple of tackles, which you just didn’t see last year much from eagles recievers.
    Im talking about catching a pass and throwing a guy of you. Im not talking about your average brent celek truck last year, where he would truck the DB and go absolutely nowhere and somehow that was “awesome.” Im talking about really breaking tackles.
    I think I remember him dropping passes last year, but no it wasn’t a big deal with him.
    Maclin is pretty good, but I try not to overinflate his skill level. I think madden has his rating right, hes a above average player verging on pretty darn good. But his RAC skills are the next step imo.

  555. 555 wee2424 said at 1:46 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    I do agree with you that he isn’t a break tackle type of player. That’s why I’m excited over Huff in which you mentioned in a previous comment. However some of Maclins YAC are due to his extremely crisp routes and his cuts, so I wouldn’t say those yards are over inflated. I’ve seen Calvin Johnson and Dez catch balls with nobody around them and run for serious yards. If it counts for them it should count for Maclin also.

  556. 556 lewis don said at 2:12 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t count that for them either. Im zeroing in. Im saying none of the eagles offensive players, with the exception of huff have the ability to catch a short pass and break tackles, they rely on jukes and speed, which aren’t bad, I think you need diversity in skill.
    Celek use to be able to do it, but last year was sad. His truck move has no impact any longer.
    Not talkin about always being able to break a big gain. But to highlight:
    If a QB throws a pass on 2nd and 5 for 2 yards, I need to see our number one catch that and not only be able to juke them out their shoes, or stiff arm or try to speed burst around the defender, but I liked to see them break that tackle. That’s strength, huff has it. He sheds tackles.
    Maclin doesn’t, also he and shady have balance issues, they slip on the field far too much. Several times maclin was gonna make a cut and slipped. Also this is important for bad weather and tough games with high pressure. You need those power guys. and the eagles lack it right now.
    When they had desean they had supier speed that made up, imo, for the lack of power.
    I wasn’t a guy against the move cause I believe in culture, but I thought the eagles would adjust.
    I think they just gotta either replenish that speed or get more powerful.
    You need the right match of the two or an advantage in one or the other. right?

  557. 557 wee2424 said at 3:24 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    I agree with everything you said. That’s why if Jmat could someday switch to outside and have Huff in the slot I think that would be great. I like you am very high on Huff. I do think he needs to work on his pass catching. He doesn’t seem to have those natural receiving hands. Sometimes looks a little awkward when he catches. I think if he refines certain things he could be a very good player. Blocks with tenacity, runs hard and has very good balance. Also has some ability out of the backfield. Can be a very versatile weapon. I think he will really impress this upcoming season.

  558. 558 lewis don said at 4:08 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    Yes! I couldn’t agree more, Huffs downfall is his hands, the fumbles he had last year killed me, but he also had a kick return for a touchdown and several good plays. This year, like you said, I think he will do well, we need him to. because without some players stepping up, we have too many holes to address this season. If Kendricks can take that next step, man…he could be a beast. I mean his blitzing ability from the MLB position is probably the most impressive thing Ive seen from the eagles besides Mccoys ability to shift direction and maclins ball skills and barwins motor. Speaking of Motor, Beau Allen, man, he has a motor…but I sure hope we git rid of casey Matthews, even though we probably wont. could be a culture building guy.

  559. 559 wee2424 said at 6:05 PM on March 2nd, 2015:

    Agree with all of it. Casey is gone now with the addition of Brad Jones.

  560. 560 lewis don said at 8:02 PM on March 3rd, 2015:


  561. 561 Greg Richards said at 4:26 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    It’s the offseason. Nothing for reporters to do but conjecture wildly and speculate with only the slightest of basis. I wouldn’t worry until hell actually breaks loose and lava engulfs you.

  562. 562 A_T_G said at 4:37 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I agree. A few months ago things looked bright, the team was playing well, and Tommy posted this article…

  563. 563 Baloophi said at 8:17 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    I haven’t shaved since Tommy posted this article: my beard is now longer than this comment section.

  564. 564 anon said at 7:36 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    CK might feel like he needs to rebuild

  565. 565 lewis don said at 3:33 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    The first time I noticed herremans, me watching All-22 for the first time in 2012 (I believe). My thoughts: “Who the hell is at RG and why are they getting so bullied with the bull rush.” So my first impression was wanting him to be replaced. Since then, After watching more games, the word Serviceable comes to mind, Average or slightly above average.
    I came into last year with a lot of excitement. This year, I see a lot of holes I didn’t see last year.
    I “feel” this years draft, we need to address many positions almost equally. OL, CB, LB, FS. Not too mention the holes at other positions. Lesean didn’t make the leap he needed to make in order for our team to rely on him, and we didn’t have the passing game to offset that lack of production and dam sure didn’t have the defense (Thinking of Packers game).
    I wont be upset if we draft any position of dire need first pick. I can’t see this team going anywhere without answers at either position.
    I kinda feel like we need to back foles again. I mean this thing is about going into the season with a balance that works.
    For the sake of example, if your offense is a 4/10 your defense has to be a 6/10 to compensate.
    Our team right now compared to the competition is like 6/10 and 2/10
    In my arbitrary world, that’s just 80%. and only 90% and above, theoretically have a chance at winning the superbowl.
    We need to improve on both sides of the ball. Unless we improve at WR, we need, obviously, a BIG RB. Not saying McCoy isn’t great, but that meaningful production he had was with D.Jackson on the field.
    We could have done it with Polk, but injuries, coaches decisions. etc…
    But ultimately, the thing that I “feel” would help this team the most, and it seems we are all singing the same tune is at CB.
    If A.Rogers doesn’t pick on B.Fletcher last year, we maybe win that game. I believe that.
    I mean, Our running defense was pretty good last year, watching the games, it was just. Long bombs over fletchers head.
    Maybe getting a difference maker at FS to pair with Jenkins. If you keep fletcher.
    I mean, he can play. He just would need the right kind of speed behind him right?
    I mean, I believe any combination can work, if it works well together.
    This draft has me nervous. Also, I am still a believer in M. Smith.

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  567. 567 anon said at 7:52 PM on February 28th, 2015:

    What about Steven Ridley? Could be pretty good, will be cheap.