Feeling Better

Posted: March 13th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 777 Comments »

It is amazing the good that a simple press conference can do. On Wednesday we heard from Chip Kelly and Sam Bradford. Those PCs helped quite a bit. It doesn’t make Kelly’s moves any less out of the box, but I think it gave you a better feel for the situation and what was behind everything.

Here is Kelly’s PC.

Kelly didn’t say anything groundbreaking. He danced around some questions about the Howie Roseman situation, saying that was Mr. Lurie’s call. I’m guessing Chip had a bit more than “nothing” to do with that series of moves. He talked about the Shady trade, explaining that as much as they loved McCoy they needed ILB help and Shady had a huge cap figure.

Kelly talked a lot about Bradford. I thought he did a good job of explaining that any time you are making a move like this, it is for a reason. Good QBs just don’t come available. It happens due to an injury or there can be money involved. Peyton Manning left Indy when he was expensive and hurt. Drew Brees left San Diego when he was going to be expensive and he had a bum shoulder. You are almost always taking a chance when a talented QB comes available. There is going to be some kind of baggage.

While Kelly did a good job of pointing out that players can come back from injuries and still play at a high level, he was too dismissive of injuries. He gave all the good examples. He never talked about Cornelius Ingram, Marlin Jackson or Shaun Phillips. Kelly wasn’t involved with those guys, but the point is there are plenty of players who tear ACLs and never recover, let alone play well.

I hope people came away understanding the trade for Bradford wasn’t some fluky thing. It was by design. There was a lot of research that went into the decision. Kelly talked to Sam’s college coaches. He watched all of his NFL throws. That doesn’t make the move any less risky, but I hope it gives a sense that this is something the Eagles think can work…they aren’t just guessing.

In non-Bradford news, I thought the most interesting comment was that the Eagles signed Walter Thurmond, who would come in and compete with Nolan Carroll and Brandon Boykin for the starting corner spot opposite of Byron Maxwell. Boykin will finally get his shot. Maybe. Kelly will need to expand on that comment in the future, but it sure sounded like there was hope for Boykin. All I know is that he better play like the 2013 BB if he wants to have any shot to win that job.

And Kelly did emphatically address the Marcus Mariota situation.

“Let’s dispel that right now. I think that stuff is crazy. You guys have been going with that stuff all along. I think Marcus is the best quarterback in the draft. We will never mortgage our future to go all the way up to get somebody like that, because we have too many other holes that we are going to take care of.”

Les Bowen has all the quotes here.

If Mariota falls anywhere close to the Eagles, he could still be a target. But there won’t be any RG3 packages to move up. The Eagles will need picks to help with RG and DB, possibly WR.

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As for Bradford, I came away very impressed.

Here is Sam’s PC.

I thought Sam did a terrific job of being positive, but also letting everyone know that he wasn’t delusional. He doesn’t see himself as the best QB in league history. He fully understands that people doubt him based on performance and injury history. And he understands it is up to him to prove them wrong.

Nick Foles always did a good job of saying the right things in PCs, but sometimes it was a bit fake. Sam actually seemed…dare I say…honest. The media could grow to love him for that.

The most interesting thing he said is that the Eagles have been talking to the Rams for a month or so. Again, that shows you this move was really by design and not a panicked reaction to “Mariota will cost too much!”

One of the things I like best about Sam is that I just thought he had a good presence. Sam was in the spotlight in college and then was the center of attention for the Rams, although that’s nothing huge. I think he can handle the role of being a team leader and one of the faces of the franchise.

I still have lots of questions about Sam the QB, but came away feeling better about him after hearing him speak.

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We got more PCs on Thursday.

Kelly

Murray

Mathews

Thurmond

I wouldn’t consider the M&M PCs as must see material. They say some interesting things, but nothing that blew me away. I did love hearing Mathews say “Sprolesy” several times. That was funny.

Thurmond was very interesting. He’s sharp. Most people think of him as a nickel, but he explained that he played both outside and inside for Seattle. He can handle either spot.

When asked about injuries, he talked about the violent nature of football. He broke a leg a couple of years ago when he took a hit from a teammate. There is nothing you can do to prevent something like that. It is simply the price of playing football.

Someone asked Thurmond about being a returner. He talked about a bad experience he had returning a kickoff and said no thanks to that offer. He compared KO returns to car wrecks. Thurmond did say he could help on punt returns. He was a RS in college.

As for The Chippah…he was interesting as always. He explained that the Eagles wanted to come out of free agency with a pair of good RBs. The team targeted Gore, Murray and Mathews. They didn’t think they could afford DeMarco so they focused on the other two.

Chip talked about the desire to add physical, downhill runners. That is something I wrote about yesterday. Chip knows that running like that will take its toll so that’s why he wanted a pair of runners. Shady had the ability to avoid big hits. M&M will take hits. They will also punish tacklers. By using 2 runners, the Eagles can spread out the carries to each player and protect them.

This certainly sounds great in theory. Putting that plan into action is challenging. The stud RB never wants to come out. But Kelly has sold these guys on the idea of using them both so I’m hoping it works well.

Chip was asked about whether the Eagles would sign a WR. He said he wasn’t sure if that would happen and then noted that the team thinks there is a good group of WRs in the draft. Sounds like the Eagles will look at veterans, but aren’t going to overpay anyone, knowing they could address the position in the draft.

Wouldn’t surprise me to see them wait a few days and let the market settle down before going and talking to some WRs.

No real update on the Evan Mathis trade reports or the hole at RG.

* * * * *

Speaking of holes…

Safety targets Rahim Moore and Marcus Gilchrist signed elsewhere on Thursday. The fact the Eagles weren’t aggressively talking to them leads me to believe they weren’t all that interested. That’s fine. Those weren’t great players.

But what are the Eagles going to do?

Maybe they love Landon Collins at pick 20?

Maybe there are other NFL guys they are targeting. I’ll be writing more about this in the next few days. Big mystery to be sure.

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777 Comments on “Feeling Better”

  1. 1 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I felt a lot better after the pressers. Will things work out? I don’t know but Chip is doing all he can do make our team better.

    The funny thing about Bradford is I don’t think I ever heard him talk before. He’s obviously polished when it comes to dealing with the press.

  2. 2 Dominik said at 9:16 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    You’re right, Chips presser calmed me down, too. In his own interest, he should do that more often. He hates the media and he’s right about only reporting to Lurie – Belichick was often quoted as “If you listen to the fans, you’ll be sitting right next to them soon”, while Belichick himself stole that quote. And of course I don’t want Chip to listen to a homeless person to draft a QB like the Browns owner did with Johnny Football.

    But: there is also truth to that, even though it is Andy in the caricature

    http://cdn.cagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/reid-belichik600.jpg

    Chip is a good seller, he should use it more often. After all, it doesn’t hurt if the fans are on board, does it?

  3. 3 anon said at 9:26 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    they ask the dumbest questions

  4. 4 GermanEagle said at 8:28 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I am really pumped up for the draft again. Glad the Eagles won’t mortgage the whole draft for only one player.

  5. 5 Nicodemus_09 said at 3:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Amen to that.

  6. 6 itachi007 said at 8:31 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    We have the 10th pick now after the Bradford trade. Trae Waynes could be available to help the CB spot . or maybe Kevin White for WR.

  7. 7 Ghost of Steve Van Buren said at 8:34 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Might want to double check the trade details there, itach. We still pick at 20

  8. 8 GermanEagle said at 8:37 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Good morning.

  9. 9 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:21 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Itachi, that is just so three days ago!

  10. 10 Jernst said at 8:41 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    nope we still have the 20th pick and the rams still have the 10th pick. You might want to re-look-up what was involved in the Bradford trade.

  11. 11 Insomniac said at 9:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    The rude awakening must be brutal.

  12. 12 Sb2bowl said at 10:30 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Was for me………. and I’m guessing there were a couple of other “rough nights” when the truth came out.

  13. 13 Dominik said at 11:01 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    “and I’m guessing there were a couple of other “rough nights” when the truth came out”

    Oh there were. There were…

  14. 14 Mike Cappelli said at 8:38 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    hypothetically, if Bradford benefits from the Chip Kelly bump and mariota struggles as a rookie, is chip wild and crazy enough to trade mid season for him? Has there ever been a mid season starting qb trade? Am I just sleep deprived? Are there any horse socks?

  15. 15 anon said at 9:25 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    no too much dead $$ at that point for the trading team.

  16. 16 holeplug said at 9:56 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    0% chance that happens

  17. 17 Mike Cappelli said at 9:59 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Right, I’m just trying to establish a theoretical limit to chip’s ballsiness

  18. 18 P_P_K said at 10:08 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    If a couple sets of horse socks can get the deal done, let’s do it.

  19. 19 Chiptomylou said at 2:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I am ashamed to say that when I read “horse socks” I though you had typed something different.

  20. 20 Weapon Y said at 8:41 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I find it odd that you now decide to call Foles fake in his press conferences, but had nothing but good things to say while he was an Eagle.

  21. 21 Frencheaglesfan said at 8:43 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I disagree, tommy always said that foles was saying all the right thing to say, like you expect from a professional QB as for a politic. I think he’s right saying that bradford sounded more honnest in his approach.

  22. 22 Mike Cappelli said at 8:46 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I just see Bradford as more charismatic than foles, which is saying very little

  23. 23 Frencheaglesfan said at 8:48 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah Foles was like the kind of friend you have in a party, great to have in a group cause he’s really nice but awkward to stay one and one with him cause he’s a bit empty and he will keep thanking god and his friends every 2 minutes.

  24. 24 JJ_Cake said at 10:15 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    You guys may not like Foles style, but he is very genuine. He is a team oriented guy, and was the same when he had his star season as he was last year amongst the patchwork line.

  25. 25 P_P_K said at 10:20 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’m with you. He was always professional before the press, no problems with the law, and his teammates spoke highly of him. I hope he does well in his career.

  26. 26 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I can’t recall Tommy ever stating that Nick was in any way fake.
    He’s a great guy and it’s easy to like him.
    He always said the right things and never threw anybody under the bus.
    I will always remember Foles as a straight up guy and I really appreciated his honesty and integrity.
    The fact that he is a Christian should not go unnoticed either.
    The bottom line is, Tommy never hated on Foles to my best recollection.

  27. 27 Anders said at 8:44 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Tommy often critized Foles for keeping saying the same BS every week. Like Foles always said he knew he had thing to correct, but he never corrected them.

  28. 28 Insomniac said at 9:50 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Foles learned from the master himself while he was a rookie. Maybe that’s why he’s still a one year wonder.

  29. 29 Anders said at 10:00 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    yea, Foles PCs really reminded me of Reid PCs. Never believed him, but never had a problem with it.

  30. 30 eagleyankfan said at 9:12 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    You kidding? Tommy, imho, never liked Foles.

  31. 31 itachi007 said at 8:44 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    wow. it was originally reported that we switched 1st round picks, guess that was wrong. thanks for the tip. makes the trade harder to swallow.

  32. 32 eagleyankfan said at 9:10 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    that was like 2 days ago…and about 3000 posts…lol…

  33. 33 Dominik said at 9:18 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I feel for you, mate. To those of us who followed “live” via Twitter, and god knows there were a lot of us, it was a nightmare.

  34. 34 Anders said at 8:49 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    If we look at potential workload, I think it will break down something like this:

    Eagles aim to have 80 snaps per game, but lets say they only have 75 and with the same run/pass ratio as 2013, thats just around 600 carries we need to split.

    I see around 500 of those carries split between Murray and Matthews with the remaining 100 split between Sproles and Bradford (scrambles and a few keepers).

  35. 35 bill said at 8:54 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Good breakdown. I also think Murray is going to be more receptive to the reduced touches after seeing how last year’s #s affected his market than he would have been otherwise. Toss in the marketing glitz of “sports science!” and there’s a good chance these guys won’t be complaining about it this year.

  36. 36 Anders said at 8:58 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    If a RB gets 250 carries, he has a normal workload, the simple fact that we will be a run first team and run up-tempo means we have starter carries for 2 RBs

  37. 37 Dominik said at 9:21 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    You can say what you want, but both RBs knew there will be a split. This is not telling Shady, who signed a contract three years ago: hey, committee time.

    They both knew before they signed their contract. And especially Mathews has to be ok with it, since he had the choice to sign elsewhere. He sounded ok with it.

  38. 38 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:27 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Last year’s #s affected his market in one direction: up. He doesn’t pile up all those yards, he doesn’t win the rushing title, and he doesn’t make $40 million or whatever ungodly number we signed him for. That being said, his ypc actually dropped from 5.2 to 4.7 last year. For comparison, Shady dropped from 5.1 to 4.2 last year.

  39. 39 Ark87 said at 9:07 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I wonder if there is any Chance Polk makes the team. He was so radically different than the other backs in previous years and that gave him value. He has trouble staying healthy but so does M&M. He helps in special teams and is cheap, but just doesn’t offer anything that the headliners don’t have as a RB. So he’s probably gone if M&M are both still here in August.

  40. 40 Anders said at 9:11 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think we keep Polk, but he hasnt signed his RFA tender yet.

  41. 41 Buge Halls said at 9:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I really don’t see Chip risking Bradford on designed runs (I seem to remember hearing that he’s already had some ACL problems…). I expect we’ll see one maybe two scrambles a game (zero designed). And that’s only with a wide open field in front of him and a run out of bounds or a quick slide.

  42. 42 Anders said at 10:02 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    the zone read will still be part of the offense. We ran it with lead footed Foles, so we can do it even with Bradford

  43. 43 Buge Halls said at 10:12 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    How many times does Chip have to say that he doesn’t run the zone read before you understand that he doesn’t run the zone read?

  44. 44 Anders said at 10:14 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Kelly said he does not run the option, he said his offense is based on the inside zone read (IZR) and OZR

  45. 45 bill said at 8:52 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Does seem like it would be a bad idea to make a big jump up for MM at this point, with all the holes in the roster and the salary that’s been added, Chip will need a bevvy of cost controlled players to round out the roster for the next 2-3 years.

    But obviously, that doesn’t mean Chip won’t do it.

  46. 46 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:20 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah, i’ve always been a fan of moving back and collecting picks as opposed to moving up and tyler really has me intrigued with the possibility of drafting hundley and sitting for a year behind bradford. If we move up and grab mariota everybody’s gonna be expecting him to start right away..actually kinda hoping he goes in the top 5 to the jets, titans or bucs. So we can move on early address the o-line and wr throughout the draft.

  47. 47 Buge Halls said at 9:53 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    With the rookie prices being set in the CBA, there really isn’t a huge cost to a #1 any more. It’s still pricey, but not what it used to be

  48. 48 T_S_O_P said at 8:55 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    According to Heath Evans, acquiring Murray was the way to trade up with Oakland for MM. Does anyone know if Heath Evans is aware the Earth is round?

  49. 49 myartz04 said at 8:56 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He’s. So. Dumb.

  50. 50 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:09 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah just a total toolbox..not just a tool, he’s the whole box

  51. 51 Avery Greene said at 9:02 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He might not.

    http://deadspin.com/ballghazi-just-like-creationism-according-to-moron-nfl-1681618040

  52. 52 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Please don’t mention that name ever again.
    He was the same clown that predicted Kelly was going to fail miserably.
    So much for his expert opinion. LMFAO.

  53. 53 myartz04 said at 8:58 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I am already bored. No trades or signings this morning.

  54. 54 Anders said at 8:59 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    There is a long way from now to the draft

  55. 55 P_P_K said at 9:56 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yea, where my FA adrenaline rush?

  56. 56 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:23 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ha Ha Ha….that comment was priceless. Thanks.

  57. 57 Ark87 said at 8:59 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Good post Tommy. I also feel much better about the off season so far, largely due to the PC’s. I still have football misgivings and skepticism about some of it, but I sort of see the vision. I hope we solidify the O-line and get something for teams to fear in the passing game or that run game will struggle no matter who the back is. But it is still very early in the off season, I’m on board.

  58. 58 bill said at 9:06 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think that in Chip’s vision, the run game works no matter what by imposing it’s will on the defense. Maybe not explosive, but consistent, and always a threat to wear down the defense as the game goes on. The passing game is meant to build off of that. I don’t think Chip buys into the West Coast/Reid plan where the passing game sets up the run game.

  59. 59 Ark87 said at 9:10 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Even so, if a team is selling out on your run game, you still want to be able to throw a knock out punch.

  60. 60 bill said at 9:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Or at least consistently move the ball through the air. The knockout punches come organically when the defense is on play 10 of a drive in hurry up and their heads are spinning, their lungs are heaving, and their muscles burning.

  61. 61 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:02 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    New orleans having a fire sale apparently, wonder what they want for their two kennys? Stills and vaccaro. Stills is a nice fast deep threat with decent size still on a rookie contract, and kenny vaccaro was the 1st safety off the board in the draft a couple years ago, still on his rookie contract, looked like a 1st round safety early on but fell out of favour with coaching staff last year…anybody have any more insight on him? Could he be a good scheme fit for us?

    I always prefer building through the draft as opposed to free agency but my favourite remaining targets tashaun gipson and vaccaro seem to be better than any safety available on the draft and stills is very similar to devin smith who’s projected to go in the late 1st or second round

  62. 62 Anders said at 9:10 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Both guys would be perfect scheme fits. Vaccaro was the best safety in the 2013 draft by far and Kenny Still would be a perfect outside WR instead of Cooper (SoonerBias and all)

  63. 63 Tdoteaglefan said at 1:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    No doubt! unfortunately Stills just got shipped to the dolphins. ah well

  64. 64 CrackSammich said at 9:20 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    They’re both on rookie contracts and better than what we have. Bring them in.

  65. 65 A Roy said at 9:04 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I was initially concerned about having 4 RB. Last year, we had 4 TE and 3 RB. Don’t think 3 TE and 4 RB is much different. Wish one of the RB was Keith Byers, though.

  66. 66 bdbd20 said at 9:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Burton may fit that role. If Polk signs elsewhere or we trade him (6th or 7th round pick), Burton could fill that role in and emergency.

  67. 67 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Agreed, Burton is a beast and is cheap to keep.
    IMO he will make this team.
    He is also a gifted ST’er, so I can’t see Chip kicking him to the curb just yet.

  68. 68 Steve Smegal said at 9:09 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    This is about the only semi-realistic trade up for Mariota that would not gut our draft (thus leaving us unable to address S, WR, and G (x2)). I’m assuming that if a team offered a first for Bradford, it was Cleveland’s #19. So 19 + 20 + Kendricks to Oakland for #4. This would also free up significant cap space to address our holes.

  69. 69 RobNE said at 10:30 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    no Kendricks. Let MM keep falling if you want him.

    If you were willing to trade Kendricks just go to #2. If not, let him fall to 6 (Jets) or so.

  70. 70 RobNE said at 10:31 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’d rather go Bradford and Kendricks than have MM.

  71. 71 Christopher Miller said at 9:10 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I feel like Fisher is the guy we take round 1 if he is there so that really has me worried about S. If we trade Mathis, and I hope we don’t, maybe for Bush from the Saints?

  72. 72 Anders said at 9:11 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    The safety you want from the Saints is Vaccaro, not Bush

  73. 73 Christopher Miller said at 9:21 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Vacccaro I was not expecting to be available but I would be good with that. Somehow we need to land someone before the draft that can compete for the other starting spot.

  74. 74 anon said at 9:26 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    don’t they have to eat dead $$ to move him?

  75. 75 Frencheaglesfan said at 9:14 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    culliver to the skins

  76. 76 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:26 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Pot roast and culliver to the deadskins eh? Someone needs to go down to DC and fill scottys water bottle with vodka…just kidding..kinda

  77. 77 eagleyankfan said at 9:16 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    So – Bradford was a long, detailed, well researched move. DM was a knee jerk reaction. LOL. Thank you Gore. I’m ever MORE happy you left. Never like you coming here.
    …..
    Rooky wr to go with 2nd year starters n Cooper? I’m guessing most teams are already stacking the box to stop the run.
    …..
    I wonder if the Shady trade was as long of a research process as Bradford.
    …..
    Maybe Chip hasn’t lost his marbles….lol.

  78. 78 phillychuck said at 9:19 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Shady trade reportedly came together in 20 minutes.

  79. 79 eagleyankfan said at 9:21 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    wow.

  80. 80 Anders said at 9:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    That is not true

  81. 81 Dominik said at 9:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He was on the block. That is a fact. Arians confirmed it.

    When Arians knew Shady was on the block, it didn’t happen in 20 minutes. The negotiations with the Bills may have lasted 20 minutes, but that doesn’t mean there were no other offers.

  82. 82 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I believe it. Just look at his salary for 2015 then compare it to Kiko’s.
    Then you divide that by getting Murray and Mathews, and it’s easy to see why they pulled the trigger so quickly.
    Some decisions are easier than others, and this was a no brainer.
    Go Eagles !!!!!

  83. 83 bill said at 9:27 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Shady’s a different style of back than anyone they’ve been linked to since. Gore/Murray/Mathews – all are more similar in style to each other than they are to Shady. Like TL said (I think yesterday) – Shady was the homerun hitter who strikes out a lot. Chip wants the consistent doubles hitter to keep his hurry up offense on the field.

  84. 84 Buge Halls said at 9:45 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Many teams throughout the history of the NFL have had the “box stacked” against them and have still been able to run the ball very effectively. Hat on a hat, RB makes the first guy miss, and we’ve got 2nd and six, then 3rd and two, then first down – both of the guys we signed average over 4 YPC (yes, I know that doesn’t mean every time). Not every run needs to gain 20 – 30 yards to have a very effective run game.

  85. 85 anon said at 9:19 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    some sammy b info.

    “The quick decision making, quick release, accurate guys that’s what Mariota is and that’s what Sam Bradford has,” he said. “I think he’s a much better thrower coming out than Mariota is.”

    Jeremiah echoed those sentiments at the end of last year writing, “Personally, I thought Bradford was more a accurate passer in college than Mariota.”

    This goes back to what we discussed about Bradford’s college offense the day after the trade. It was super high tempo, spread concept predicated on making fast decisions and getting the ball out quick. People forget that when Bradford was in college, it wasn’t then offensive coordinator Chip Kelly’s Ducks that played the most snaps in the nation… It was Bradford’s Sooners.

  86. 86 Ark87 said at 9:26 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    The biggest place Bradford can improve on Foles is getting the ball out faster. Being able to get through his reads and find the open man quickly. We left a lot of plays on the field last year. Bradford doesn’t have a good reputation with the deep ball, so I have to imagine that it is in processing speed where he is a 2nd+3rd/4th draft pick plus ~$10M better than Foles. I hope.

  87. 87 anon said at 9:28 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    sammy b has a cannon there’s a video of his passes over 15 yards, take a look, i was impressed.

  88. 88 xeynon said at 11:37 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yes, but the stats (advanced and conventional) also indicate he’s one of the worst deep throwers in the league. And it’s not just his supporting cast that was to blame – Shaun Hill and Austin Davis were much better on the deep ball when he was hurt.

  89. 89 Jamie Parker said at 7:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Well we have no one to run deep so it doesn’t matter.

  90. 90 Anders said at 9:23 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Every Eagles fan should read this interview

    http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/13/joe-banner-chip-kelly-philadelphia-eagles-overhaul/

    I cant but have respect for Joe Banner, he helped change the NFL when he was here (the salary cap roll over was put in the new CBA because other teams had zero clue on how to be as creative as Banner was with contracts)

  91. 91 Dominik said at 9:29 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I will read the interview asap. I follow him on Twitter, too. I don’t always share his opinion, but he really is an interesting follow. I get the feeling he’s totally open and just speaks his mind, and at the same time, he knows a lot about the business part.

  92. 92 Anders said at 9:31 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He speaks his mind, but he also always avoid commenting on anything Eagles or Brown front office related.

  93. 93 Dominik said at 9:50 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yes. But at the same time, he’s a huge Chip Kelly fan. At least he used to be (have to read the interview on how he thinks about the Offseason for the Eagles so far). So he does talk Eagles, just not Howie or Lurie.

  94. 94 Anders said at 10:03 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yea Banner sounds like a giant Kelly fan, but I can see why. Both are aggressive guys who aint affraid to do things outside of the box.

    Things like removing the FA tag from Trotter to the TO trade, to his cap manipulation was outside of the box thinking.

  95. 95 Dominik said at 10:07 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He also wanted him as HC while he was with the Browns. Badly. Just didn’t have a plan B, never understood why you would hire Chudzinski. Imho, being OC for Carolina doesn’t scream “new HC in the making”.

  96. 96 bill said at 9:38 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Thanks. Great read. Very honest and thoughtful. Hard not to respect him after reading that.

  97. 97 unhinged said at 11:19 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Banner is no dummy. Wasn’t he the NFL’s Cap czar a while back? I don’t agree with his conclusion that Chip wanted an alternative to Shady, though. If we look at the chronology of events, even though Chip said Murray, Matthews and Gore were all targeted, it really looks like Shady was essentially a money dump, which facilitated the acquisition of 2 defensive starters. Then Gore was targeted, and he came a whole lot cheaper than DeMarco. I cannot speak to the Matthews pick-up, but that may have been hedging the bet on Murray, once Gore cancelled. Everyone is seeing the similarity between Shady’s deal and Murray’s, but Murray was a counter pick-up, and Kelly had no leverage. Even at that, Murray settled for less than his best offer. My point is just that folks tend to infer what they suspect or assume, but that doesn’t make it correct. With DeSean it was character, culture, mouth, practice, gangs, etc., when money was always a major issue of contention. If you are trying to re-make a team and you have a scat WR who disappears in RZ, and is getting paid elite WR money, you let him go, and the same applied to McCoy. If Kelly was asked if his offense missed Jackson in 2014, I think he’d admit that it did, but if you tie up your resources by overpaying, you don’t get the team you hope to get. Kelly did not sour on McCoy. He’s just trying to make the money go further.

  98. 98 anon said at 11:23 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    ck basically said he wanted a 1 cut power runner and shady wasnt that, he didnt love running from shotgun, just a bad system fit, i don’t think it was really about the money.

  99. 99 unhinged said at 11:34 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    If McCoy was what you say Chip said he wanted, which I don’t think he actually ever vocalized, I believe McCoy would still be gone because he led the league in rushing in 2013, and could well have done it last year barring plethora of OL injuries. Shady was highly productive in Chip’s scheme and I am convinced he’d still be here had he carried less of a revenue hit. In his PC Chip did say, it’s all about the money, and I think he’s being straight.

  100. 100 anon said at 11:43 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    he had like 125 runs for 0 or negative yards last year(league leading), doesn’t run through contact ranked toward the bottom of the league in yards after contact, etc. you saw shady come out on third downs and goal line – money time for rbs – that’s when i knew he was probably gone.

    if he was a $5m guy maybe they get another guy and split, but i still doubt it, why keep a guy if he’s not what you want.

  101. 101 unhinged said at 11:05 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Because you can’t always get what you want, and that is the point. At 5M, he;s going to ditch an elite RB because he’s too finesse? Maybe, but that is your inference, and I don’t buy it. I don’t think Kelly is a perfectionist. He strikes me as a realist, and having a top RB who hasn’t missed much playing time in his career is an asset you build around, not discard. His price tag made that untenable.

  102. 102 Corry said at 9:25 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’m still concerned about the hole at Safety and the possible hole at LG and the fact we still don’t have a starter at RG. Having Murray and Mathews is great, but they go nowhere without good blocking up front.

  103. 103 bdbd20 said at 9:53 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Goldson is out there. Vaccaro may also be available (although he would be costly).

  104. 104 Christopher Miller said at 9:30 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    As far as ACL concerns and never coming back, isn’t it less risky with Bradford who is more a pure passer than a speed guy?

  105. 105 Jamie Parker said at 7:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    QB’s get hit from different directions all the time and they always have people falling around their legs. I’d think ACL concerns are more risky for QB’s than not, especially for those that don’t run well. Remember, Cunningham tore his knee up from the pocket. Then again, McNabb tore his just running out of bounds.

  106. 106 CrackSammich said at 9:32 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    If we’re sticking with “M&M” as the nickname for our running backs, I suggest amending it to M&Ms. Sproles’ addition to the name is proportionally sized.

  107. 107 Dominik said at 9:48 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Guys, what are we doing about the Safety position? I’m really afraid we’ll end up with a player like Nate Allen, just not named Nate Allen.

    We have a huge hole at WR, but we can fix this in the draft. We will have two holes at Guard, we will have no competent Guard at all as soon as Mathis is traded (@ Tommy: Tobin? Really? He can compete in camp, of course, but he showed next to nothing last year). But: I trust Chip to fix it in the draft. And Guards can be plug and play.

    At Safety, we are young, but we have 0, absolutely no skills next to Jenkins as it stands right now. If Wolff stays healthy and makes a leap – good. If Reynolds makes a leap – good. If the guy we signed from the Lions PS turns out to be solid depth – good. But we can’t expect them to. You need to give young players a chance, but you can’t expect a bunch of late round draft picks to be capable of starting.

    Imho, you HAVE to do something at Safety pre draft. FA (but who is left???) or trade.

    And no, imo Carroll or Watkins aren’t the answer. They should battle it out with Boykin (if he stays – could be someone we trade for a Safety) and Thurmond at Corner, with the camp “losers” as depth.

    Another thing I don’t get: Chip said he earmarked every position with a cap figure. Howie used to do the same. He said he can change a certain amount of money, but I think the RB spending has more to do with taking money away from the WR position (Maclin leaves 10m on the table, rookies are cheap).

    He wanted to pay McCourty 10m. Now of course, at that time, we thought we’ll pay our QBs combined 7m or so, now it’s ~ 19. But that can’t mean we will play with a scrub starting Safety, can it? Sorry, but that would be stupid.

  108. 108 Insomniac said at 9:55 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Even if we for some stupid reason trade Mathis away, we’ll take Jake Fisher to fill his place (quack quack dumb move). There’s not really good safeties in the draft but some of them can be solid starters. WRs is a deep class this year. If you want names that we might be able to get in later rounds then go watch Chris Conley, Tre Mcbride, and Antwan Goodley.

  109. 109 xmbk said at 9:58 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Think they believe they have an in-house answer at safety? Carroll, Watkins, Wolfe, Reynolds? Good question for Kelly.

  110. 110 Dominik said at 10:05 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    God I hope not.

    And if they’d think that, why pay McCourty 10m per?

  111. 111 Jernst said at 10:05 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    How stoked is Kelly about those in-house answers if he was willing to pay $10mil+ to convince McCourty to leave the Patriots?

  112. 112 xmbk said at 11:20 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Good point. But he may not think that any of the other safeties out there are enough of an upgrade to be worth the price. I’m pretty sure someone like Jenkins would go for a lot more on this year’s market than he did last year.

  113. 113 anon said at 11:21 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    all dbs. last year the market was much better, so were the deals

  114. 114 eagleyankfan said at 10:31 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t see how. That question was answered last year imho.

  115. 115 MattE said at 11:05 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’m not totally sold that Wolff is what he is…. i think he could improve.

  116. 116 Dominik said at 11:20 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He could. But you’re not building your team around that, do you?

  117. 117 MattE said at 2:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    nah i agree. but its gonna depend on what they think of Carroll also and the CB situation

  118. 118 P_P_K said at 10:05 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Good piece, Tommy, thanks. Hearing Chip speak alleviated my fears the guy has some sort of Emperor complex, thinking he can do no wrong and that every idea he has is genius. He came across as quite thoughtful and deliberate. I might not agree with everything he does, and getting Murray instead of Gore was clearly luck not planning, but I’m feeling like he has a reasonable vision for the team. Oh yea, I’m sure he’s relieved to know I approve.

  119. 119 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:34 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He probably still has Emperor complex, but also has the political skills to calm people down when necessary. πŸ™‚

  120. 120 austinfan said at 10:09 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nothing that has happened should surprise anyone who has actually listened to Chip the past two years:

    “repeatable accuracy”
    “Big guys beat up little guys”

    Sports science, execution, high tempo.

    1. Bradford is an extremely accurate QB with a quick release, Foles is a big tough QB with erratic mechanics and a slow release – which one is likely to give you “repeatable accuracy”

    2. Eagles defense is built around the front seven stopping the run, giving up yards underneath between the 20s, matching up against big WRs in the red zone, and bringing pressure on 3rd downs and getting off the field. So what’s Maxwell’s MO in Seattle – gave up underneath stuff but never got beat deep.

    3. Shady is a very talented dancer, if you can get him through the LOS and set blocks on the second level he’ll give you big plays – but he also gets stuffed more than most RBs and puts your team in obvous passing downs, a big no-no for Chip. We just landed the top 2 RBs in YPC out of the shotgun, Matthews and Murray, and both are physical, one cut downhill runners, Not accidentally, both are among the top receiving backs (McCoy was mediocre at best) and are good pass blockers – McCoy might have been the worse pass blocking starting RB in the NFL. No more matador blitz pickup.

    4. Graham is not good in pass coverage, but they have LBs like Jones, Smith and Long who could start on base downs – but on passing downs Graham is an elite pass rusher. The only player I wanted over him was Derrick Morgan, you can keep Orakpo.

    5. They would have liked to keep Maclin, but I see Matthews moving outside, Huff to the slot and a WR or two drafted in the middle rounds. Chip in six years at Oregon had one season with a WR gaining 1000 yards (Maehl) and one season of a WR gaining 750 yards – i.e. WR isn’t a key position. Though while everyone is down on Cooper in 2014, note how good he looked in 2013 when his QBs threw the ball in his zip code. He’s a WR who must be thrown open, and gee, they just added an accurate QB who’s able to anticipate his receivers’ moves. However note the Eagles are looking at every athletic H-back out there. Keep an eye on Burton, he showed GREAT hands in camp last year and is as athletic as guys like Reed on the Skins – just never got a chance to master a position in college (RB, WR, H-back). Big WRs and H-backs means lots of blocking mismatches on the second level to set up big runs.

    6. It would be a shame if Mathis is traded, but he turns 34 this season, name all the 35 year old starting NFL OGs the last decade or so. Yeah, I thought so, very short list (centers have the longest life expectancy). So by replacing Mathis and Herremans they set themselves up for the next few years – Wisneiwski should be a target, but he’s visiting Seattle. OL is absolutely essential, and they must invest draft picks in building serious depth here – all that money on RBs and Bradford will be wasted if they can’t maintain a top 5 OL.

    7. Safety, who needs stinkin’ safeties? Looking at PFF, Allen, Coleman and Jarrett had some of the higher ratings among FAs, another way of saying if you don’t have one of the top guys, the rest are pretty interchangeable.

  121. 121 Dominik said at 10:21 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sorry mate, nice post overall, but that statement is just WRONG:

    “7. Safety, who needs stinkin’ safeties? Looking at PFF, Allen, Coleman
    and Jarrett had some of the higher ratings among FAs, another way of
    saying if you don’t have one of the top guys, the rest are pretty
    interchangeable.”

    That’s like saying: well, if you can’t have Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, let’s settle for Ryan Fitzpatrick, doesn’t makes much of a difference.

    There is no more McCourty out there (let’s call him a 5). But it’s important to have a 0 or a 1, instead of a -3 (Nate Allen) or a -5 (any guy we have on the roster right now). There is value. And not just a little.

  122. 122 Mitchell said at 10:43 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    If we can get above average at either the cb or S position this year, it will be an enormous upgrade. As of now it looks like the Cbs, at the very least will be quite a bit better.

  123. 123 Dominik said at 10:53 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Well, at one position, yes. I like Thurmond, but I can’t say I know he will be better than Fletcher. We can hope and he probably is, but he could be injured again, after all.

    And Carroll + Watkins couldn’t beat out Fletcher last year, for whatever reasons. Watkins was a rookie, so he has that as an excuse, but still.

  124. 124 Mitchell said at 10:55 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    With Thurmond, Watkins and Carroll you would really hope at least one of them is marginally better than Fletcher.

  125. 125 RobNE said at 10:25 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    good post. not sure about 7, but first 6 got my riled up. Let’s go win the SB.

  126. 126 Dominik said at 10:15 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Also, even though we had this discussion around 7000 times: what do we make out of the Mariota pro day? Wasn’t pretty, apparently.

    It really sucks for us that he threw at the Combine. Otherwise, with all the concerns about his readiness in a pro style offense, he could have easily dropped in our range. He probably is the 2nd most talented QB (on the field) in this draft class. But if the execs don’t like a QB class, it is possible that they go heavy on OL or Pass Rusher early. 2013 was an example of that.

    Chip said he won’t mortgage the future. But it’s not even worth debating that he would love to have “the best QB in this draft” on his roster.

    And in Chips offense, there wouldn’t be concerns about his lack of Pro style experience, obviously.

  127. 127 RobNE said at 10:23 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip knows him much better than anyone else, so MM might as well have a bad pro day. It won’t influence Chip’s view of him at all, I think.

    If he falls there is only upside, Chip can move to get him or not.

  128. 128 Dominik said at 10:29 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Oh, I wasn’t saying his bad pro Day will infuence Chip. He could have gone 0/40 on his Pro Day, not connecting an easy 5 Yard out, and would be the #1 overall on Chips board.

    My question was how much it COULD affect his draft stock. And when would Chip pull the trigger? You can bet that many teams would call the Browns at #19 if Mariota is available then – because, well, everybody who would be willing to invest a late 1st for MM would just KNOW that he’s gone at 20. But it will probably never come this far, because Chip would trade up for him. Chip said he won’t mortgage the future – but if MM would be there at, let’s say 12, trading up from 20 to 12 isn’t mortgaging the future at all. Or would Chip wait for 15? Would he trade up to 10? All we know is, if MM falls out of the top 6, it will get really, really interesting.

  129. 129 RobNE said at 10:37 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think Jets at 6 has some possibility. I’m not sure I see MM really falling and falling to 12 or 15. I just don’t see it. QB is too important in this league.

  130. 130 Dominik said at 10:45 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    You’re right. But it does happen sometimes. Remember Geno Smith being a discussed target when we had the #4?

    Now, it’s no given that this happens, of course. But I wouldn’t rule it out. Not with a bad pro day in combination with questions about the pro style readiness in his game.

    Jets would suck for MM, btw. AFC East is as tough as it gets (AFC and NFC North are tough, too) when it comes to stadium, weather and wind. Mariota doesn’t have a total cannon, but you kind of need that if you play in Boston, Buffalo and New York.

    By all the mistakes the Bills and Browns made over the years, signing or drafting QBs with noodle arms in their division was always flat out stupid. You can say about Cutler and Stafford all you want, but they got at least that going for them.

  131. 131 RobNE said at 10:55 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I was suggesting the Jets pick could be traded to us (that the Jets would be open to that, and the pick would be less expensive than # 1 or 2), not that the Jets should take him.

  132. 132 Dominik said at 10:59 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ah, yes, that’s possible. Even though the Jets need a QB badly. But they could take Hundley at 20 or trade back from 20 again and take Petty. Would depend on the price Chip would be willing to pay, I guess.

  133. 133 RobNE said at 11:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    they could get Bradford in the trade too. who knows. But Chip definitely has a stronger hand than before, hell I’m convinced he loves Bradford.

  134. 134 RobNE said at 10:39 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Also I think any smart FO wouldn’t be too influenced by the pro day. If you are a reporter etc. and only see him once this is big news. If you are a FO that has been studying him I would think the pro day is just one more small piece to the evaluation.

  135. 135 holeplug said at 10:41 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    you’d think this but…..Bridgewater

  136. 136 Iskar36 said at 10:42 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Honestly, while the specific concerns are different, his story arc has taken the same path so far as Teddy Bridgewater. Going into the offseason, Bridgewater was describe as a clear top 5 pick. He then didn’t go to the Senior Bowl and you heard some concerns start to pop up. Those concerns continued throughout the offseason, peaking at his Pro Day where he struggled and there were all those pictures of him throwing with a watch on. His weaknesses started to get picked apart, but even right up to the draft, draft guys were all arguing that his game tape was still worthwhile and that his ability to throw at a Pro Day in shorts is meaningless. Of course he ended up falling all the way to the end of the first. MM’s offseason has been largely similar, minus the combine. Obviously they are different players and different issues, but I guess my point is that it isn’t out of the question.

    Edited for mixing up two guys

  137. 137 Dominik said at 10:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    “Would MM’s story continue to match GS after being drafted?”

    Don’t think so if Chip gets him. Otherwise: absolutely possible. Depends on how much of a mess of a franchise he lands. Geno landed in one of the worst places a QB can land – Rex Ryan territory.

  138. 138 Iskar36 said at 10:55 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I actually meant Bridgewater as I was typing that, but I think GS if I remember correctly was largely the same. Just mixed up the two players. And you’re absolutely right. The idea that Chip would be the guy who ended up with MM would likely give MM the best chance of succeeding despite the fall in the draft (not that the fall in the draft in and of itself hurts a player’s ability, just that the concerns that other teams may have had are likely things Chip is better prepared to handle).

  139. 139 Cafone said at 10:17 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t think we can glean anything from the latest moves nor Kelly’s words about their interest in trading up for Mariota. If they were interested in trying to get him, they can’t come out and say it. Kelly would say the same things he is saying now.

    I have no idea. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

  140. 140 Iskar36 said at 10:34 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I sort of agree. He certainly was very convincing, and I don’t really think we are going to trade up for Mariota, but IF Chip was planning to trade up still, I don’t know what he would have said in this press conference that would have be any different.

  141. 141 JJ_Cake said at 10:22 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I know this has been discussed earlier in the thread, but anyone who thinks Nick Foles wasn’t genuine is just plain wrong. You may not like his style, or don’t believe he could be the next Tom Brady, but the man is high character and hard work ethic.

    Only time will tell how Foles and Bradfords careers turn out.

    This is chips team, and he certainly has made things interesting. I love the Murray signing. Helps us and hurts the Cowboys, gotta love that!

  142. 142 mksp said at 10:34 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I am not going to miss Nick’s press conferences. At all.

  143. 143 unhinged said at 10:37 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah, I think Foles is authentic and sincere, but he has a built-in respect for authority and everyone else that does not allow him to criticize anyone other than himself, even to the slightest degree. His PC’s usually border on stock responses, but I don’t think that makes him fake, just ultra-respectful.

  144. 144 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:42 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I actually met Nick back in January. He was very cool and just seemed like a big kid, but one of those rare kids who was raised right and follows the rules and says “Sir” and “Ma’am” and all that. I don’t think it’s fair to call someone like that “fake”. He was just being a team player.

  145. 145 myartz04 said at 10:27 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Been thinking this a lot lately….thank you Frank Gore!!

  146. 146 MattE said at 10:37 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sproles and Huff are gonna have interesting roles this year…. that whole TAZR position idea is gonna be in full effect.

  147. 147 scratcherk said at 10:40 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Here’s food for thought:

    Sign Bradford to an extension. Downplay your interest in MM and put yourself in a better negotiating position for trading up. Let MM drop a bit in the draft and get him at a much more reasonable price. Let Bradford play in your qb friendly system for a year while MM sits driving up his value. Trade Bradford for much more than you paid for him.

    Profit.

  148. 148 MattE said at 10:46 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Moneyball. Chip looks like Brad Pitt

  149. 149 ACViking said at 11:41 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    MattE:

    Hopefully, you’ll come back and elaborate on how acquiring a QB with a 1-year $13M contract who’s played football only 4 of the last 75 NFL-season weeks is “Money Ball.”

    Or anyone else. I’d like to see the argument line by line.

  150. 150 MattE said at 2:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Taking chances on injured athletes is right out of Sam Hinkies playbook i believe… we took a $11mill RB and turned him into DeMarco Murray and Kiko Alonso… am i missing something?

  151. 151 MattE said at 2:30 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    …do you really think that contract stays like that? Come On Man!

  152. 152 MattE said at 2:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    and i believe $13 mill is half of what Tony Romo is being paid? The market for an elite QB is $20mill period. I believe $13mill is 65% of $20mill therefore i temper my expectations to 65% meaning I am 65% on board with Bradford lol.

  153. 153 MattE said at 2:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    allocating that much money to offense in general has been a little contradictory to my belief a few weeks ago, but Alonso’s contract skews things a bit. personally i thought chip was aiming for a $80 mill defense.

  154. 154 peteike said at 11:27 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I still cant believe Ive convinced myself that Im curious to see Bradford in this offense. Told me that a year ago and I would have scoffed. Not a fan of MM so hope hes someone elses bust.

  155. 155 GEAGLE said at 11:29 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    same…. for me, id easily take Bradfords skill set over MM…. Bradford can play in chips type of offense like MM can, only Bradford is actually a proven passer against NFL defenses(on some level atleast)…

    if you told me we had to lose Foles, I would hope for a QB with Sam’s skill set, of course Id rather have MM’s Knee’s but thats a dfferent story… in terms of skill set, im happy to have Sam

  156. 156 peteike said at 11:46 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    ya exactly, now with the 3 headed beast attack in the backfield its kind of a good fit for him trying to come back. Takes a lot of pressure off him,

  157. 157 GEAGLE said at 11:27 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    cant….. too much injury risk. have to see him before we can extend him

  158. 158 KAJomo said at 11:59 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    We can protect ourselves against injury in a contract. I could see us doing an additional 2 years to get the money down this year and give Sam some guarentees. However he would lose some of that guarenteed money in the event of a season ending injury. Peyton signed a similar deal with the colts. Its why they were able to get out of that deal

  159. 159 Frencheaglesfan said at 10:40 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    mc fadden to dallas

  160. 160 Avery Greene said at 10:41 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Interesting.

  161. 161 anon said at 10:41 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    hahahahah they cant test their theory

  162. 162 Dominik said at 10:56 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Depends on the money, I guess.

    The can and will draft a RB. Hope they find one who does suck. Dream scenario: Trent Richardson reloaded.

    Or they somehow get their hands on AP. Don’t know how they could pay him, though.

  163. 163 GermanEagle said at 10:48 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    F Dallas. Lol.

  164. 164 MattE said at 10:50 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

  165. 165 EagleNebula said at 10:43 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    All I know is, training camp coverage is going to be fun.

  166. 166 Kairo02 said at 10:43 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Any news on the Evan Mathis trade speculation?

  167. 167 GermanEagle said at 10:48 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nope. Though it won’t surprise me if the Eagles send him to St. Louis while giving up a 3rd rounder in 2016. πŸ˜‰

  168. 168 Avery Greene said at 10:47 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Think about it, Dallas fans were really talking about Chip Kelly. #trader

  169. 169 MattE said at 10:47 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I would get HBO again (and sign up for 5 years) if the Eagles did hard knocks lol.

  170. 170 Frencheaglesfan said at 10:50 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip won’t allow it

  171. 171 MattE said at 10:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    unless Chip is Producer/Director/Writer/Wardrobe/Casting.

  172. 172 Sammy Bee's Knees said at 11:05 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    We can’t be compelled because we have made the playoffs in the past 2 years.

  173. 173 Sammy Bee's Knees said at 11:07 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Giants, Redskins, Vikings, Bucs, Rams, Browns,Texans, Jags and Titans can all be forces to do it. Johnny Football makes too much sense for them not to do the Browns.

  174. 174 Frencheaglesfan said at 11:34 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Bucs makes a lot of sense, especially if they take winston

  175. 175 Anders said at 11:54 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Giants would be fun to see Coughlin yell at everybody or redskins to see how incompetent Gruden is and the whole rg3 thing

  176. 176 EagleNebula said at 10:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but:

    Did you guys see the joe banner interview in mmqb? Really fascinating point of view, and he thinks Chip’s moves were good.

  177. 177 GermanEagle said at 10:52 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I really like Joe Banner.

  178. 178 EagleNebula said at 10:53 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    As an analyst I agree. He is great on twitter.

  179. 179 Anders said at 11:03 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I posted about it further down

  180. 180 EagleNebula said at 12:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    sorry for the repost – I figured someone had but was too lazy to check…

  181. 181 MattE said at 11:08 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Just read it. Interesting view from an outsider who use to be an insider, but who is currently a total outsider at the moment.

  182. 182 MattE said at 11:09 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    The biggest thing i took away was that Chip has asked Banner for advice.

  183. 183 Frencheaglesfan said at 10:55 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Fairley to the rams, what a DLine!!

  184. 184 oreofestar said at 11:01 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    But who’s their QB

  185. 185 peteike said at 11:45 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    heard some radio guys talking and saying how they had a few 4th qtr comebacks last season. Were playing a more controlled offensive game per Caldwell. Not that stafford is all of a sudden special, just that they are kind of a different team now.

  186. 186 anon said at 11:03 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    they’re crazy they have 3 FA holes on o-line, no decent rb no decent WRs but like 8 all pro lineman

  187. 187 Dominik said at 11:04 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    They still have the draft to build up skill players and O-Line.

  188. 188 anon said at 11:19 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    3 ol, plus skill players, 1 draft? their focus is clearly not on helping their new qb.

  189. 189 unhinged said at 11:38 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    They’ve become the Pre-Flacco Ravens!

  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 11:15 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    and they got another figgin edge rusher akeem ayers

  191. 191 Greg Richards said at 12:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He’s visiting there, hasn’t signed yet.

  192. 192 Greg Richards said at 12:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Never mind, just announced.

  193. 193 GEAGLE said at 11:17 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    i have no clue how anyone with any understanding of our defense and what we look for in players could even think landon collins might be an option for us….

    truth is, I like Collins, not bad for an alabama DB which i tend to view as trash..I like the big hitting safeties…. but knowing what we look for in safeties I try not to allow myself to like Collins and view him as an option so that i dont have to get upset on draft night when we pass on him…

  194. 194 Dominik said at 11:31 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s why we have to go FA or trade for a starting Safety, imo. We’ll find a good WR or OL when we’re on the clock at 20, but there won’t be an elite Safety, since Collins is no scheme fit.

    Maybe, maybe there’s a Safety we like in round 2 or 3. But after that, I don’t think we’ll find a starter. And we need one, badly, freaking badly, there is NOTHING right now at that position.

    If Chip finds a decent Safety in FA (whom??) or via trade, I’m fine. I trust him to find one or two WR and two or three OL.

  195. 195 GEAGLE said at 11:36 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    hoping for a trade, if not I guess my money is on the kid from Virginia, anthony Harris… solid cover ability, needs to add some muscle….. but im not thrilled about any of the safeties in the draft….. trade for Tashuan gipson, pay a 2nd and a 5th if we have to… he is the missing link to a bad ass defense

  196. 196 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 11:47 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah I’ve been banging the Gipson drum for days. But now with everything else they’ve done, I’m not sure the cap room is there for a deal Cleveland wouldn’t just match

  197. 197 BlindChow said at 11:22 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Kelly talked to Sam’s college coaches. He watched all of his NFL throws.

    Did Kelly actually say this? He didn’t watch any of Sanchez’s NFL tape.

  198. 198 Dominik said at 11:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yes he did. Calmed me down, too. For a smart man, Chips comments about only watching Sanchez High School or College tape, whatever it was, it was just dumb.

    But he made it clear with Bradford and I actually believe him. It’s not like Chip is a lazy HC.

  199. 199 SteveH said at 11:25 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Did you think Chip was a lazy HC before he said that?

  200. 200 Dominik said at 11:27 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Of course not. Only watching Sanchez High school tape (if he not just said so – but why should he say that if it isn’t true?) was dumb, imho, but not lazy.

    A lazy HC wouldn’t travel to 15 Pro Days around the country.

  201. 201 GEAGLE said at 12:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    you mean 15 pro days in one week……. by the time prodays are over chip visits atleast like 40 of them

  202. 202 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 11:45 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah he said they watched every throw of his pro career. They talked to anyone who coached him in college plus Shurmer knows him from his rookie year. So unlike Sanchez, they definitely did their due diligence.

  203. 203 anon said at 11:48 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    to be fair, much smaller sample size than sanchez

  204. 204 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 11:51 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah I think its more that Chip is basically hitching his wagon to Sam and he wanted to be sure.

  205. 205 Bert's Bells said at 11:59 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    He did say something like that.

    There are a few things at play there -1) Sanchez was getting signed regardless of Kelly’s opinion. The difference between this year and last.
    2) Sanchez was a free agent. The only thing you lose by signing him was money, not roster talent. That money was going to somebody regardless.
    3) Bradford is here to be the starter, that’s a much more important decision than a journeyman back up.

  206. 206 eagleyankfan said at 12:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    “sanchez was getting signed regardless of Kelly’s opinion” — um, how is that possible?

  207. 207 Bert's Bells said at 12:32 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Howie.

    It’s just speculation. But free agents are signed by GMs without coaching consent in more than one organization.

    The fact that Sanchez was the consensus “top” free agent QB in the last two years implies that landing him as a back up would be an easy decision for most teams that need a back up.

    Just speculation, though. It’s not how the Eagles usually run (as far as we know), but Sanchez signing may have been front office driven at a time when Kelly was still outside the f.o.

  208. 208 eagleyankfan said at 1:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’d say — no and no, followed by a no. People need to understand and accept — CK has said it over and over — he has final say on roster. There is(are) no “front office driven” decisions. No matter how people like to wonder or speculate. This IS CK’s team. Not Howie’s – not front office driven.

  209. 209 Bert's Bells said at 2:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Final say on roster is not the same as signing free agents.

    Truth.

  210. 210 eagleyankfan said at 2:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    There’s reality — and there’s what you’re thinking. I’ll take reality every time. You’re trying to spin the definitions to try and confuse the matter. FA or players on the teams or trades — what ever affects the roster number — CK has final say. Not partial, not 3/4’s — full 100%. Go and listen to his press conference. It’s quite clear. Of course you can agree to not believe that and that’s ok … however — please — and I beg — don’t kick the Yankees when they are down .. they do suck πŸ™ …
    …..
    part of me would to hear your definition of “signing free agents” has nothing to do with final say on the roster. It would be fun. I mean, Costello(from Abott and Costello) proved that that 28 divided by 7 = 13 so I’m sure there’s a way you can explain…

  211. 211 Bert's Bells said at 2:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You make it seem like you’re in the room with “inside knowledge.”

    I’m just positing a possibility. Despite you’re insistence it’s still a possibility. Do I believe that’s the reason Kelly said he didn’t watch the Sanchez pro film? No. But it’s an explanation.

    There are three possibilities -Kelly’s lying. Kelly’s an idiot. Or there were circumstances that made him spend his time on other matters.

    I do believe Kelly when he says he didn’t watch it (unless he was joking, I didn’t see the tape but only read the quote). Coaches generally don’t outright lie. They’ll mask the truth with “I gotta do a better job” or “he’s a heckuva player” or “he’s the all time leading running back on this club”, but they won’t stand there and tell an outright lie. Mostly. I don’t think Kelly is that type.

    I also don’t think he’s an idiot.

    That leaves us to speculate on scenarios why Kelly wouldn’t have watched Sanchez’ pro film. I’m throwing some possibilities out there.

  212. 212 eagleyankfan said at 4:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    No inside info. I’m just going by CK words. He has a team of people that evaluate. He has a team that makes suggestions. He makes the final decision. He didn’t say ‘as a group we decide’. I don’t think there’s any room for speculation anymore when it comes to the roster. Last year, we have no idea who picked Marcus Smith — but we can assume HR did by Chips words…
    There is no way Lurie and a group of others got together, went to Chip and you have to take Sanchez.

    Maybe Chip didn’t need to see his tapes because he really really like Sanchez.
    ….
    We can speculate if Chip calls Howie and says “can we fit this guy under the cap” … But a final Yes or No on a player — is Chip.

  213. 213 Bert's Bells said at 7:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    So do you think Howie had the power to make a first round pick despite Chip’s opinion, but not the power to sign a back up player?

    Seems like Roseman did have “say” on the roster in that scenario.

    Again, we have no idea how it went down. It’s just hard to swallow that CK would say “Get me Sanchez!” without fully investigating.

  214. 214 Bert's Bells said at 2:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    PS: Fuck the Yankees.

  215. 215 SteveH said at 11:24 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Strangely Chip Kelly saying that Chip Kelly is happy with picking up Sam Bradford doesn’t make me feel any better about getting Sam Bradford.

  216. 216 GEAGLE said at 11:25 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    we all know the measurement requirements but im not at all surprised to see us let Boykin compete outside…;. very talented corner… think the major reason we didnt let him play outside because the nickel position is as important as playing aoutside and we had no one besides boykin with Nickel experience. Nolan was always an outside corner, last year was the first time he played inside in the dime role….

    our CB depth is so solid now with a plethero of corners who can play outside and in…. this year its not a big deal if Boyin wins the outside spot because we have thurmond who plays inside and out, we have Carrol who got a year of inside experience last year and played well… and Jaylen Watkins is now in the mix for playing time inside too.,..

    so if Boykin wins the outside job, so be it, we have a bunch of slot options that we didnt have before this year

  217. 217 peteike said at 11:29 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    yup, Im thinking same thing, esp once we signed Thurmond but ya, Watkins and Carrol also. Hope he at least gets a shot there which we still dont know will happen.

  218. 218 GEAGLE said at 11:33 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    my favorite to win the outside CB spot is Carrol,…. took some time to go back and watch his tecnique playing outside CB in the past, and i think Philly hasnt seen his best yet. Athletic, intelligent and a tough scrappy corner, my money is on Nolan to win the spot opposite of Maxwell, but i dont really care because we have a ton of corner options I like…

    thinking that the Eagles and the Jets will have a sick dime package after the free agent moves

  219. 219 peteike said at 11:42 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Finally have some decent depth, its nice now just need another safety. Cmon Wolff ha. Milliner is their 4th CB now coming off that achilles I think it was.

  220. 220 SteveH said at 11:33 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Should have let Boykin compete outside on 2 wide sets last year, slide him into the slot on 3 wides.

    Seems fairly contemptible that we wouldn’t give him a shot last year with that train wreck we were fielding out there but this year we will.

  221. 221 GEAGLE said at 11:37 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    seemed like we didnt want to get too complicated in the first two years of the defense…. the real crime is we gave bradley the long leash to get his confidence back instead of making the switch to Nolan, who i thought was going to win Bradleys job anyway if he didnt get hurt so late in the summer

  222. 222 anon said at 11:39 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    i think it was the db coach. thurmond and boykin are basically the same size. i think there’s been a chance in philosophy.

  223. 223 GEAGLE said at 12:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i dont… think we have a plethora of inside options now that can handle the role only boykin could handle last year

  224. 224 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 11:42 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sheldon Brown did exactly that for years

  225. 225 GEAGLE said at 12:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    jimmy johnson wasnt trying to build a no huddle defense to counter todays tempo offenses

  226. 226 xeynon said at 11:28 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    I am feeing better about the Shady move after the Murray and Mathews signings, I like adding Thurmond, and Bradford at least impressed me at his PC. I still hate the trade we made for him, however. And I still think letting Maclin walk will come back to haunt us.

  227. 227 Dominik said at 11:45 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/576404223694340097

  228. 228 peteike said at 11:47 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    McFadden kinda looks like Kanye, minus the muscles and neck

  229. 229 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 11:52 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Kempski’s drawings make me laugh almost every time

  230. 230 GEAGLE said at 11:57 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    lame if you ask me…..

  231. 231 Bert's Bells said at 12:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    No one asked.

  232. 232 GEAGLE said at 12:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i dont get it, i answer you once a month if that, and you feel the need to sweat me every single day? get a grip of your inferiority complex, backl to invisible you go

    how clever, media drawing stick figures, as if the coverage already wasnt trash. very professional

  233. 233 Bert's Bells said at 12:11 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Go a day without sucking or spamming and go a day without getting “sweated”.

  234. 234 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I kind of get the sense Jimmy has had to tone things down with his recent gig, no?

  235. 235 Bert's Bells said at 12:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think he just has to post more often, which means it’s harder to come up with clever/creative stuff all of the time.

  236. 236 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    right, good call

  237. 237 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 12:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t know. His Ryan Mathews one yesterday was great. I love the offseason plan one too. At first they bugged me but they grew on me

  238. 238 GEAGLE said at 11:46 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    we often were frustrated with why we didnt just move Boykin outside in two WR sets, and while i certainly understand why Fans like that idea Im not sure its a fit for our defense…. i know sheldon brown showed everyone it can be done, but Jim Johnson wasnt trying to build a no huddle defense.
    ..
    keep in minmd the goal is to build a no huddle defense, that can adjust on the fly to however the offense lines up if they dont allow us to substitute, for example we want safeties that can come downb and line up man to man on a slot WR if the offense doesnt let us sub our nickel package into the game..

    so while some teams have corners who play outside against two WR sets and move to slot corner when 3 WRs come on the field….. that doesnt work for a no huddle defense… what will you call timeout every time you wanna move boykin back in the slot because 3 WRs are in the game… ..it just doesnt fit wit the ability to build a defense so versatile that can adjust to anything without needing to substitute

  239. 239 Jernst said at 2:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Not sure why Boykin can’t line up on the outside and then line up on the slot on consecutive playts without calling a time out. I think the more likely scenario is that they see him in practice every week and don’t like what he brings to the outside CB spot.

  240. 240 scratcherk said at 11:56 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/bleedinggreen/status/576405237646417920

  241. 241 RobNE said at 12:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    per MM he hasn’t visited there. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but how could a FO know what they are doing in mid March when this kid hasn’t even visited. I hate these types of headlines.

    Eskin’s sources are other NFL teams. So not only have the Redskins decided, but they are telling other teams.

  242. 242 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Eskin saying skins will package mariota w/desean for bradford

  243. 243 GEAGLE said at 12:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    jesus christ, is eskin confusing reality with his current season of maden football(franchise mode)?

  244. 244 Bert's Bells said at 12:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You’re joking about that. You must be joking. Or he’s joking.

    But wouldn’t it be hilarious if that actually happened?

  245. 245 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:26 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    it would be so good, the football outsiders collective would rename their website to soccer outsiders

  246. 246 botto said at 12:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    oh yeah I heard chip is high in djax

  247. 247 anon said at 12:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    they are hoping that someone will jump up and trade. tactic would work if it wasn’t so transparent.

  248. 248 GEAGLE said at 12:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    good… hopefully the keep drafting Running QBs underdeveloped to throw against NFL defenses and NFL coverages….. you think the redskins are goimng to scheme him easy defined throws like chips offense? hope they do get this kid, they will trade him to us in 3 years and then chip can beat them with him,…. if they draft him, RG3 will be our back up next year

  249. 249 Frencheaglesfan said at 11:58 AM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nick Foles PC soon

  250. 250 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    we know CHEMICAL BURN from footballoutsiders will be tuned in…

    —begin sad—

    “I think Kelly’s problem with Foles is that Kelly is an egomaniac who believes Foles’ performance in 2013 is what literally any mildly competent player SHOULD be doing in his system and getting stuck with Foles just because he DID put up unreal numbers irked him to no end.

    Because Foles seems like the nicest dude in the world. That’s the weirdest part: Foles is so laid-back and unassuming. This isn’t Djax or McCoy, where the guy is outspoken and flamboyant. Foles is like the ultimately team player.”

    –end sad–

    Wasn’t the band’s name in Sunny CHEMICAL TOILET? Is this Mac?

  251. 251 Greg Richards said at 12:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sleeper FA at safety – Dwight Lowery. Sort of a journeyman, but played very well last year with Falcons. Has some history of concussions.

  252. 252 Bert's Bells said at 12:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You had me with “history of concussions”, tell me he’s got two reconstructed knees and I’m hooking up Kelly with his agent.

  253. 253 Greg Richards said at 12:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    We don’t have much cap room left. All we’re going to get at this point is guys close to the minimum and because of that concussion history Lowery could end up being a bargain.

  254. 254 GEAGLE said at 12:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i dunno about that…./ if there is someone worth signing we have contracts we can shed or restructure to free up money

  255. 255 Greg Richards said at 12:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    True, but until that happens I’m going to assume otherwise.

  256. 256 GEAGLE said at 12:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    until it happensim going to assume we dont like anyone enough to shed current salary, or discussions with the player we like havent started to heat up yet

  257. 257 Greg Richards said at 12:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nasty Nick says Eagles are fools for trading him and he’s going for 500 yards, 8 TDs when he meets them in the playoffs.

  258. 258 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Boy rams PC is so old fashioned and boring, poor nick

  259. 259 Bert's Bells said at 12:41 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You left out, “Then I’m gonna drop my nutsack on Lurie’s forehead and make him call me ‘Big Ram’.”

  260. 260 GermanEagle said at 12:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Most. Boring. Offseason. Ever.

  261. 261 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 12:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I know – it’s after 12 and they haven’t cranked up the roller coaster yet

  262. 262 Pascal Cloutier said at 12:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    About the hole at safety…

    The trend seems to be that the Eagles are targeting Safeties who are former Cornerbacks. Even Malcom Jenkins is a former Cornerback.

    Jaylen Watkins has some experience at safety in college and practiced at that position last year too. Do Eagles see him as a possibility at that position? Maybe they think none of the free agents besides McCourty would be an upgrade over him?

    It was interesting to see that when Chip talked about the addition of Thurmond, he said he would compete with Boykin and Carroll for the starter job opposite Maxwell. He didn’t mention Watkins…

    Do Eagles view Watkins as a Safety or Cornerback, or both? Chip also mentionned the importance of drafting and developping players…

  263. 263 Greg Richards said at 12:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They could potentially view him as a safety, not cornerback. He fits the mold. I doubt they’re comfortable with only him and the other S options on the team right now.

  264. 264 BreakinAnklez said at 1:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Either way, they need to make a decision so Watkins can LEARN one or the other…switching him around this much is goingn to stunt his growth

  265. 265 GEAGLE said at 12:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    sometimes a coach leaves a name out by accident…. wouldnt go searching for too many clues into the wording of a pressconference especially when half of what chip says is a lie, as it should be… only dumb coaches would tell us the truth….

    but you arent wrong about Jaylen… I dont think he can win the outside CB spot with all the players ahead of him, but he shuld be competitive for the safety position, nickel and dime CB roles

  266. 266 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    WTF, Nick Foles PC is already over, they asked him like just 1 or 2 questions. Man that must be really boring to me a rams fan.

  267. 267 oreofestar said at 12:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah my Rams fan friend had been crying for a move to LA he says the team is too boring

  268. 268 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    A come back to LA would be so cool though. I’ve always liked this team.

  269. 269 GEAGLE said at 12:20 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    sam bradford a few times made some comments kind of pointing to how boring it is to play football in that city

  270. 270 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    part of me thinks players, contrary to previous click-bait-stephen-a-et-al reports, want to be *the ones* who deliver the goods to philly for the first time

  271. 271 GEAGLE said at 1:05 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    dude, fuck that simple minded cartoon, and fuck walt disney for not suspending him… in the span of a week he accused chip of being a racist, and 3 days later he is mocking Manny Paqioa doing a poor tasteless immitation of an asian guy saying the things manny said?…. how is disney allowing this?

  272. 272 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 1:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Had Sportscenter on for a minute (I SWEAR, barely a minute) a little while ago and who is helping preview the upcoming UFC match? Mr. Chael Sonnen!

  273. 273 GEAGLE said at 1:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    chael P Sonnen…. THE MAN….. Im surprised he hasnt joined WWE Wrestling yet…. he can make Millions with his mouth in the WWE

  274. 274 botto said at 12:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    he wont be bored in philly

  275. 275 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    http://www.aaos.org/news/aaosnow/aug13/clinical1.asp

    The overall IRR for athletes who had undergone ACL reconstruction was 1.39/1,000 AE

  276. 276 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    first google result for “acl second tear”

  277. 277 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think eagles game with murray and bradford will be better thrillers than any cliffhanger produced by modern TV show

  278. 278 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    exactly, like, every offensive play will be like the hank/walt-garage-door-closes showdown!

  279. 279 Neil said at 1:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    A lot of the time injury risk after an injury is a result of a bad rehab. I’m not talking about the physical healing aspect, but the part where you train the person’s muscles to work together correctly again. I have it on good word that by now NFL teams have a good grip on that aspect of rehab and lesser levels of sports do not, so I wouldn’t take a study that looks at “young”, amateur athletes as predictive for NFL players. Especially if they’re looking at females, who on top of being amateurs in that study seem to have a predisposition to knee injuries in general just due to factors like greater hip width.

  280. 280 Jernst said at 2:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    study looked at 19 male athletes. Not really a powerful enough study to make a strong conclusion.

  281. 281 GEAGLE said at 12:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i havent gotten the slightest idea who the next free agent we target will be… like i dont even have a name worth throwing out there. we could see a quiet day, take a break for a few days and wait for the the second tier of the market to calm down

  282. 282 Greg Richards said at 12:32 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Damn, Kenny Stills to the Dolphins. Have no idea for what. I had hoped we could get him.

    Rand Getlin
    ‏@Rand_Getlin

    3m3 minutes ago

    Source: The #Saints are in the process of trading WR Kenny Stills to the Miami #Dolphins.

  283. 283 GEAGLE said at 12:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    thats weird…. i would view Stills as a replacement for Wallace… wouldnt want both in my stable of WRs….

  284. 284 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 12:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Could it mean goodbye wallace?

  285. 285 Greg Richards said at 12:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah, I was just about to add that. It could mean they cut Wallace. We reportedly showed trade interest in him last year.

  286. 286 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 12:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    BRING ON WALLACE

  287. 287 Greg Richards said at 12:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Hope we don’t see a Mathis for Wallace trade.

  288. 288 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 12:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t see the saints taking on Mathis at all – they’re trying to shed salary so it would be counterproductive. Any team that takes him is going to need to give an extension. I just don’t see the saints doing that

  289. 289 Greg Richards said at 12:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Doesn’t make sense but they were one of the teams reported to be interested in him.

  290. 290 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 12:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They had just traded Grubbs. Maybe just kicking the tires?

  291. 291 GEAGLE said at 12:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    why trade grubbs and replacxe him with an old guard like mathis who also makes good money?

  292. 292 anon said at 12:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    too expensive

  293. 293 GEAGLE said at 12:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    doubt we can fit wallace under our cap, doubt chip would pay so much for a selfish player…

    “its not always about what a player can do for you, its also about what a player is willing to sacrafice”-chip kelly

    tho im sure wallace can get his stats in this offense so if he agrees to a significant restructure, who knows…

    i heard when we lost Maclin to keep an eye on Bowe and Wallace, but i found it so odd and hard to believe, the problem is the guy isnt the type to bullshit.. I dont know if i ever remember him saying something I found so hard to believe like this, so its been driving me crazy all week… i dont know what to think… of course I heard this over a week ago, and we can change courses in the offseason as a blink of an eye… so even if it was true, it may not be true now after we spent so much of our cap, since I heard that rumor…. this is very hard for me to believe
    ..
    of cours right now its probably not as simple as who we want…. it becaomes all about “who we want at certain price”…. we obviously wanted Maclin, but not at the price KC paid…. Browns are said to be in on Bowe and they are desperate and will drive his price up if we bid against them…. and I dont know how Bowe/Coop would work as our outside WRs, although it would be a great tandem for our run game

  294. 294 eagleyankfan said at 2:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Just a guess — but draft picks…

  295. 295 GEAGLE said at 12:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    sure its possible,.he is supposed to restructure but it hasnt happened yet

  296. 296 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 12:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Maybe its not going well and they’re using stills as leverage. I think I’d rather have stills anyway

  297. 297 GEAGLE said at 12:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    absolutely… wallace is a selish player… cant win the ultimate team game with selfish players…. for 60million he should do backflips on the coaches command

  298. 298 GEAGLE said at 12:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i would try to get Stanley Jean Baptiste from the Saints…

  299. 299 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What about vaccaro?

  300. 300 Greg Richards said at 12:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Doubt they’d trade Vacarro. I wanted us to sign S Rafael Bush to an offer sheet when he was a RFA last offseason. The Falcons eventually did and the Saints matched. Bush previously played for DEN when Undlin was DBs coach.

  301. 301 GEAGLE said at 12:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    prolly too expensive…. Baptiste did nothing for the sainst last year, not first round money… probably easier for us to trade for… Vaccaro would cost some serious trade compensation and we have to take on his first round salary…. i wouldnt hate the idea

  302. 302 GEAGLE said at 12:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    cowboys are interested in pairing steven Ridley with McFadden… ridley could be a nice add for them.. nice to see rivals sign ACL risks like ridley

    skins got culliver and potroast… we can see Culliver twice a year and know if it was a mistake not to target him… of course he doesnt have “Eagle Character”, he belongs in DC…. have the Giants done anything significant?

  303. 303 peteike said at 12:42 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Pot roast is a big risk because of his weight. Hes always had problems with his weight and it cost him some serious money. They only signed him for 1 year, he could have had like a 3 yr 12 mil deal but turned it down and ended up having to settle for a 1 yr deal. Still a good player though.

  304. 304 GEAGLE said at 12:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    him and that piece of shit Chris Baker are supposedly really tight, grew up together… allegedly potroast was showing up for team visits looking like a sumo wrestler lol

  305. 305 BreakinAnklez said at 1:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Was reading something by a skins blogger, sounds like he is so out of shape he almost failed his physical…what a waste

  306. 306 anon said at 1:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    what kind of physical do you give a NT?

  307. 307 BreakinAnklez said at 1:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Dunno. Maybe run 10 yards and he fell at 9.5?

  308. 308 MattE said at 3:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    didnt the Giants sign Ridley?

  309. 309 MattE said at 3:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    im thinkning Vereen

  310. 310 HawaiianEagle said at 12:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’m sure its been discussed before, but all the talk of CK wanting a “running” QB, or at least a highly mobile QB – and we have Sam, Barkley and MS (who at least is mobile). Guess mobile in college is fine but once in the bigs mobile is not so important 9because your QB gets killed).

  311. 311 anon said at 12:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ck wants quick decision makers over running qbs and there’s not a ton of super mobile guys that have what you need from a passing / decision making point of view.

  312. 312 b3nz0z said at 12:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    apologies if this has been posted: http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/3/13/8208243/nfl-draft-2015-redskins-marcus-mariota-washington-quarterback-RG3

  313. 313 anon said at 12:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    nothing at all on cecil shorts.

  314. 314 Greg Richards said at 12:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Browns, Jets have been reported to have interest.

  315. 315 GEAGLE said at 1:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i would really like seeing him in our offense if he stays healthy, i just dont see how its possible because I see him more as a slot Weapon in our offense, instead of a player chip wants lining up on the outside, and we havbe plenty of slot weapons.. we need an outside WR
    ..
    Cecil is from Cleveland so he gets linked to the browns (some imagination huh?) but they signed Hartline and are said to be after Bowe… Cecil would be dangerous in the slot with Brandon Marshall and Decker outside…… i like him,, i just dont see how he solves any of our problems/

  316. 316 MattE said at 3:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    damn…. i forgot about him.

  317. 317 Greg Richards said at 12:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter
    ‏@AdamSchefter

    18s18 seconds ago

    Saints reached agreement with former Bills RB CJ Spiller. Saints backfield
    getting crowded: Spiller, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson.

  318. 318 MattE said at 3:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    the Chip Kelly strategy.

  319. 319 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Armstead on the trade block, could be nice, what do you guys think? Boy saints are burning everything to the ground.

  320. 320 GermanEagle said at 12:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Can we not have Vaccaro instead?!

  321. 321 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Why not both? πŸ™‚

  322. 322 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Well apparently he was joking.

  323. 323 Greg Richards said at 12:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Per PFT, the Dolphins traded LB Dannell Ellerbe and their 3rd round pick for Stills.

  324. 324 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nice deal for the fins

  325. 325 Frencheaglesfan said at 12:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think Lions, Eagles and Saints are part of a master plan to help the other teams of the AFC East dethrone the patriots, yeah that would make sense

  326. 326 Bert's Bells said at 1:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Dolphins, Bills and Jets have been clown cars for more than a decade. It’s a testament to Rex Ryan as a coach that he managed to get the Jets deep into the playoffs despite a dysfunctional front office.

    Until one of those three teams puts together competent management, Belichick can cakewalk through the division almost every season.

  327. 327 GEAGLE said at 12:59 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    cj spiller is a saint

  328. 328 GermanEagle said at 1:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Is he?! How do you know that? Does he go to curch every Sunday?

  329. 329 Javi Echie said at 1:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Cmon!!..I see what you did there but that was a brutally failed attempt at a joke lol

  330. 330 GermanEagle said at 1:20 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I know. My bad. I blame it on my hangover.

  331. 331 Javi Echie said at 1:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Completely understandable friend

  332. 332 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 1:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    wait, but hasn’t he been injured?

  333. 333 GEAGLE said at 1:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    need the chargers to steal Melvin Gordon from Dallas

  334. 334 EagleNebula said at 1:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Or Jerrah to be Jerrah and do something stupid (like trade with the browns for Johnny football – one can hope right?)

  335. 335 lewis don said at 1:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Came into this offseason with no knowledge of Mariota.
    Went and watched the tape, came back impressed with his speed and decision making. Not a fan of his downfield passing or his arm.
    Id bet we don’t draft a QB at all in this draft.
    I really think we need to go Oline with the first pick.
    I think picking a OL first is the surest thing we could do unless Amari Cooper becomes available somehow.
    If we draft a WR or S then how much does the talent drop off for OL in the later rounds?
    I am worried about the health of J.Peters or even if he has many seasons in front of him.
    Isn’t it critical to get a OG and OT early? And take chances on CB and WR in later rounds?
    Im not even saying this because of our RB situation now. Which is great nonetheless.
    I think with a powerful OL, this season becomes competitive even if FS is not sealed and WR is questionable and development dependent.
    I think the moves made have only pushed me further to believe we should take a OL with the first pick. I mean idk what we should do. I just am speculating that may be the next step.
    Of all the years ive been an eagles fan, the only year I liked the offense was the year we had TO.
    Before then, it was Duce and Mcnabb flushed out of the pocket extending the play.
    After that was Vick and I never liked his style of football. but hey it was exciting.
    Then Foles, the year with Jackson and McCoy was exciting.
    But I cant wait to see that consistency in the offense. Yeah, I think we may have less in the way of explosive plays, but I think the ability to drive the field on a consistent basis will set this team up for when we build those explosive players around a solid game.

  336. 336 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 1:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’d be shocked if we didn’t draft all offensive line/back end. But I believe “shock” and “eagles” are now tied together for the near future.

    And I’m fine with it.

  337. 337 GEAGLE said at 1:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    chris Long, Robert Quinn, Akeem Ayers as the edge rush rotation
    ..
    Nick Fairly, Brockers and Aaron Donald as the DT rotation…

    i do not look forward to ever playing against the rams. You mess around and get your QB hurt playing against a DL like that… I love it.. I hope they beat the living snot out of Carson Palmer, and every QB Pigface arians puts in after they knock Palmer into the training room…. oooooh if they get their hands on tiny russell Wilson, Oooooooh!!! Even Beastmode probably isnt looking forward to playing against them twice a year. Soft Jimmy Graham becomes iirelevant in a physical war like that twice a year. Pete Carrol might as well not even dress Jimmy Graham that week…then again, he is Barwins bitch and needs to ask Barwin if he is allowed to play anyway before every game..

  338. 338 botto said at 1:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    eagles rams playoff game will be great.

  339. 339 anon said at 1:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    rams not making the playoffs.

  340. 340 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Depends on the draft. Give them a functioning OL if their secondary starts to improve Foles can take them to the play offs.

  341. 341 anon said at 4:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    In a division with SEA and ARZ? Doubtful, will certainly help that SF is done.

  342. 342 GEAGLE said at 1:41 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    make me feel like a jealous girlfriend and want to spend our #20th pick on OLB Bud Dupree or Oklahoma NT 330LB Jordan Phillips….
    ….
    A) Dupree option:
    ..
    ………….Ced/Curry…..Logan/Beau….Cox/Hart…..
    …….Barwin/Marcus…….Mykal……….Kiko………..BG/Dupree

    B) JORDAN Phillips:

    ……Logan/Ced……..Phillips/Beau…….Cox/Hart…..
    Barwin/Marcus…..Mykal………..Kiko…………..BG/???
    .
    Curry either becomes our 3rd down specialist in the game every time its a passing situation next to cox.. or he is traded for an OLB to fill the ???? spot behind BG

  343. 343 BreakinAnklez said at 1:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Too bad their offense is atrocious…

  344. 344 GEAGLE said at 1:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    for now… Tre Mason can play…Britt isnt horrible as a #2 or #3.. need to draft a #1 WR and get an OL, Greg Robinson is a great start

  345. 345 BreakinAnklez said at 1:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    OL is huge. They’ve blown some $$ there

  346. 346 DeeKnightmanCometh said at 1:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What would be the only thing better than Dallas signing Chris Johnson? I believe the answer has arrived!

  347. 347 Frencheaglesfan said at 1:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Here is my ideal scenario, we draft impact players at S, WR, OL, browns trade up for mariota, cowboys trade for manziel to take over from romo, browns trade mariotta with us in year 2 thinking he’s a bust a la weedend, manziel,…

  348. 348 Steve Smegal said at 1:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Fisher confirmed that he was offered a “low first round pick” for Bradford so looks like that part of Chip’s press conference was true.

    Edit: Said Foles originally, meant Bradford.

  349. 349 GermanEagle said at 1:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Huh? So both Fisher and Kelly were offered first round picks for Foles and Bradford, respectively?!

  350. 350 mksp said at 1:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He meant Bradford

  351. 351 eagleyankfan said at 1:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    but I thought — CHIP was offered a 1st. I don’t think Fisher was offered anything was he?

  352. 352 mksp said at 1:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Fisher just said he was as well. Not sure if the same team that offered one to Chip.

    Fisher wanted Nick.

  353. 353 eagleyankfan said at 1:58 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ah — missed that … thanks…

  354. 354 botto said at 1:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    so this team offered chip a pick for Bradford and fisher a pick for foles?
    stupid skins, we can see you!

  355. 355 mksp said at 1:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    For Bradford!

  356. 356 Steve Smegal said at 1:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yep, sorry about that. You’re right.

  357. 357 ACViking said at 2:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What year was that 1st?

    Was it a conditional 1st?

    Any picks, or players, going back as part of that deal if the Rams did it?

    And what other conditions were part of that supposed offer?

    Healthy skepticism when NFL coaches speak outside the cocoon of their facilities.

  358. 358 ACViking said at 1:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Feeling better? Because Kelly gave us one of his fast-talking press conferences that are one part con, one part spin, and 2-parts fact?

    [ Note: When Kelly ends a sentence with the word “so” — something he does frequently — he’s (i) just answered a question that’s made him uncomfortable, and (ii) just said something that’s less than what he actually thinks. Not that he’s lying. Only that he’s telling half a story. ]
    ______________

    The only problem anyone rationally expressed about Kelly’s moves has been limited, it seems to me, to the Bradford-Foles trade.

    The rankle is Kely gave up a 2nd in 2016 *plus* Foles *plus* a swap of 4th and 5th rd picks in 2015. That seemed like it too much for Bradford — even with a possible 3rd or 4th coming back if Bradford pulls up lame or gets shipped off in a trade.

    Why have some people complained about the 2nd in 2016?
    Two reasons, at least. And maybe a third.

    – Bradford’s played 4 out the last 75 possible NFL-season weeks.

    – He’s on a 1-year $13 million contract — with no real context for an extension. Turning the deal into 1-year rental for what amounts to a pair of 2nd round picks.

    – To a lesser degree . . . Kelly is not getting *his* QB — the guy he thinks is the BEST for running his offense for the next 10 years.

    Kelly’s sifting through other teams rosters looking for a bargain among the best of the available QBs.
    ______________

    I get that Bradford — coming off a shoulder injury his senior year at OU — was lights out at his pre-draft workout.

    I get that 5 years ago, Sam Bradford was Troy Aikman re-incarnate, almost.

    I get that Bradford, on tape 2 and 3 seasons ago, looks accurate and decisive with a great arm.

    And I get that the dream of a healthy Sam Bradford in green is a very seductive one — assuming Bradford’s not lost whatever pocket-awareness he may have had.

    BUT . . . I didn’t need Chip Kelly comparing Bradford to Brees and Brady — saying they all have injuries — to make me feel better.

    Bradford’s missed:
    -10 of 13 games in 2009
    – 6 of 16 in 2011
    – 9 of 16 in 2013, and
    – 16 of 16 in 2014.

    Brees? 4 games in 2003, 1 in 2004 — none since. None in 11 seasons.
    Brady? 15 games in 2008. None before. None since, for 6 seasons.

    Bradford? He’s missed 41 of his last 93 possible games (44%).

    There’s absolutely nothing comparable about Brady and Brees versus Bradford — when it comes to injuries or performance. Nothing.
    ______________

    Kelly also said, would Bradford be available if he didn’t have back-to-back ACLs on his left knee?

    Seriously?

    WE HAVE NO IDEA!!! Maybe yes. And maybe no. We don’t know because Bradford’s never played 2 full seasons in a row.

    It’s just baloney by Kelly to say Bradford’s ACL’s the only reason he was available, because every player has injuries.

    Bradford has had serious injuries EVERY OTHER YEAR, starting his last season in college.
    _____________

    So does reading Kelly’s spin make me feel better?

    About Bradford? Makes ZERO difference.

    Bradford could be G-R-E-A-T in Kelly’s or any other system. If he can stay upright for 16 weeks.

    My problem is only that Kelly overpaid for Bradford. Period.

    No amount of his fast-talking spin, or double-knock on the lectern, will change that. Nor will Bradford playing well change that.

    In contrast, the Maclin/McCoy deals were rationally defensible moves.

    Kelly’s line about saving money on McCoy to get Alonso and Maxwell was just more spin. Getting Bradford more than ate up ever penny of savings on McCoy. As did the additions of the new RBs.

    Like those moves, by the way.

    But the PRICE for Bradford?

    No, nothing Kelly says makes me feel better.

  359. 359 mksp said at 1:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 4m4 minutes ago
    Jeff Fisher said he doesn’t know whether the team that offered him a first for Bradford is the same team that offered a first to the Eagles.

    I think you make an extremely reasonable argument that Chip should just have avoided Sam Bradford altogether.

    But his market price was the market price. I don’t think we can say Chip overpaid.

  360. 360 botto said at 1:59 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t think so either, he wanted Bradford so he did what he had to do.
    picks can be recouped when we unload talent again next year right?

  361. 361 ACViking said at 2:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s Kelly talking out both sides of his mouth.

    He says he won’t make deals because he wants to *accumulate* more picks, not give them up.

    Then he gives away a 2nd.

    All I’m saying is, TOO MUCH SPIN from the guy.

    How hard is it for this guy to be straightforward with the fans — or at least, not lather on the spin?

  362. 362 eagleyankfan said at 2:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    we are not worthy. Just bow when he walks by. And please, no eye to eye contact.

  363. 363 ACViking said at 2:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s beautiful. Bowery Boys.

  364. 364 OregonDucker said at 2:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I see it the same way mksp. Chip decided to take the risk on Sammy’s injury potential because of what he saw on tape. I believe him when he says Sammy’s price would have been way too high without the injury potential risk.

  365. 365 ACViking said at 2:05 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    OD:

    Impossible to know what Bradford’s price would be if he hadn’t missed half of his NFL career.

    He might not be that great.

    QBs with great pocket-awareness DO NOT get hurt.

    Certainly not with the extraordinary frequency of Bradford.

    Moreover . . . you comment confirms my theory that Kelly settled for Bradford and insists on winning with less than the best guy for his system — whoever that is.

    I’d like Kelly to say that.

  366. 366 OregonDucker said at 2:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Well AC, we can agree to disagree. Given the Heisman, the National Championship, and his Aikman like Pro Day, I believe he has great NFL potential. He’s been on a very bad team which may account for some of his problems.

    Still, I agree completely he is a huge injury risk. Chip has to be counting on Sports Science and a very, very strong run game to minimize injury risk.

  367. 367 ACViking said at 2:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    5 years since that pro-day workout.

    Long time.

    Anyway . . . I’m just looking for some straight talk from the skipper.

    Not injury comparisons to 2 QBs who’ve missed 15 games in the past 16 seasons combined.

  368. 368 OregonDucker said at 2:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    AC – you will never get “straight” talk from Chip. He will give you glimpses if it serves a purpose. He takes exception at being judged outside of his win/loss record. With that stat he is very honest.

    And he really hates to explain his actions to football illiterates (re the press and fanboys). Behind close doors, one on one with players or coaches, he is universally respected for his football smarts. Some things you have to take on faith but I see where you are coming from.

  369. 369 ACViking said at 2:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    OD:

    Most accurate portrait of the Skipper to date.

    Thanks.

  370. 370 eagleyankfan said at 2:23 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I can sense that when he answers, was it Les?, question … kind of put him in his place talking about injuries…

  371. 371 botto said at 2:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    we will never get straight talk because he obviously has some contempt for the reporters

  372. 372 ACViking said at 2:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Did I say Bradford can be lights-out here?

    Look at what Sanchez did.

    It was just the price, Ugarte. Just the price.

  373. 373 botto said at 2:26 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    he didn’t really get hurt the 2nd time from poor awareness did he?
    acl can be a freak accident, lok at those numbsculls getting hurt dancing after a sack..

  374. 374 peteike said at 2:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ya he was planting his foot, wasnt even hit. That may be worse though

  375. 375 botto said at 2:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    but it does make it more of a freak accident.

  376. 376 ACViking said at 2:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    MKSP:

    We’ll never know if that 1st is in 2015 or 2016, right?

    Or if was a conditional 1st?

    What I’d really like to hear Kelly say — and the time has passed — is “We paid a lot for Sam Bradford. More than I would have liked. But I think he’s worth the risk, and we’re gonna commit to him.”

    Something more than the pile of spin the threw at us.
    _________

    Regarding Fisher’s comment . . . there’s no better friend of a HC than another HC in the NFL.

    Also, Les Snead? A brilliant GM when it comes to deal-making.

    He’s the guy who came up with the auction-concept for the Rams’ 2012 pick that turned into Griffin.

    I think he picked Kelly clean. That’s just me.

    Final remark: NO TEAM will ever pay 2 extra 1sts to get a QB at the top of the draft, plus a swap of picks . . . UNLESS there’s another auction.

  377. 377 RC5000 said at 4:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He talked about the price it took to get Sam. Kelly probably isn’t going to commit to him or say it …

  378. 378 ACViking said at 4:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Just less whip cream from Skipper.

    We’re not as stupid as the media.

  379. 379 botto said at 1:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    if you are only bummed about the move because of price then its really no big deal when talking about winning games next year.
    its more of a bummer losing mac because of price, because that will matter when talking about winning games next year.

  380. 380 OregonDucker said at 2:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    AC – what you saw in actions and words is classic Chip. He’s a surgeon at the table of patient needing a heart and lung transplant. The operation is not pretty, lots and lots of blood. Whether the patient lives or dies depends on him (the patient). We will see.

  381. 381 ACViking said at 2:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    OD . . .

    That’s beautiful stuff. Love the metaphor.

    And — I think you know — I absolutely believe Bradford will knock ’em dead in Kelly’s offense.

    LIGHTS out.

    Bradford’s no Sanchez — when he’s been upright.

    Just wanted something less covered in spin, that’s all.

  382. 382 peteike said at 2:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    how will Bradfords play not change that. It absolutely will change that value if he plays well, will look even worse if he gets hurt again. I think some of us over valued Foles and under valued Bradford. Fan perception doesnt always equate to actual value to the GMs. Totally agree on the bad comparison to Brees n Brady, cmon. I kind of laughed at that when I saw it also. Only thing Id say is its hard to put any kind of statistics or numbers up to injuries or recovery. You can only go with trends and those trends dont look good but are far from exact.

  383. 383 ACViking said at 2:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You may be right.

    When evaluating transactions, seems to me the analysis has to be based on what you know or can reliably project — not what you hope happens or doesn’t happen.

    I claim no monopoly on this at all and welcome more input on transaction valuation theory.

    On the sidelines, tossing the ball around Bradford looks great.

    Between the sidelines, it’s hard to know.

  384. 384 peteike said at 2:42 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ya, I hadnt read the posts below this either so you make a good point about how he presented it. Youre also right though we can only evaluate it now on what we know so thats certainly fair. I just think hindsight will of course tell us much more. I was mortified initially, never a fan of Bradford, yet now I find myself wondering if he can succeed in Chips scheme. Part of me worries thats kind of a homer pov “but our guy can do it”. Reason why I kind of want them to draft a qb to also lessen the burden of throwing all the cards in for Bradford.

  385. 385 ACViking said at 2:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Well said.

    Cognitive dissonance is settling in here.

  386. 386 botto said at 2:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    and on the sidelines sanchez eats chicken fingers

  387. 387 ACViking said at 2:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Can’t grip the football = INTs

  388. 388 ICDogg said at 2:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think though that there is a lot of subjectivity in assessing value of players. It still is a market decision; if indeed someone else was really offering a low first rounder (and this seems likely based on what the Rams are saying) then that was Bradford’s market price.

  389. 389 bill said at 3:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    (If true) Also says something interesting about Foles’s value.

  390. 390 RobNE said at 3:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    this is true but I think there is a difference between our perceived value in the analysis and the true value. If he plays well, you could say it’s still a bad trade b/c we didn’t need to give up a 2nd. How can we really know? It’s all guessing from those with imperfect information about the market. Maybe Chip’s more favorable view of Bradford and his view on recovery from the injury are in fact closer to the true valuations than ours, and that makes the trade more fair. I’m not second guessing after seeing what happens, I’m saying it’s very hard with limited information to properly assess value.

    That shouldn’t stop us from trying.

  391. 391 RobNE said at 3:42 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Kelly makes me feel invincible. I love it. He seems super smaht.

    I just can’t get worked up about whether or not he is telling me the absolute truth. It’s not in Hinkie’s or Chip’s best interests, nor mine as a fan of their teams, to get the real truth. Just win.

  392. 392 Michael Winter Cho said at 3:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Foles has the advantage in both conventional and advanced stats, availability, price tag, and youth. Going by these measures, Chip paid too much. Yet if Chip and other professional talent evaluators, who know these things but also have the advantage of far more skill and information, still favor Bradford and are willing to pay a premium (assuming Chip was not the only one willing to pay) to get him, then that is what he is worth on the market. Only time can tell whether it was worth it to us to pay the market price for him.

  393. 393 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Another well written and well thought out article Tommy.
    You are clearly the man to read in Philly IMHO.
    I have a feeling they know more about Bradford’s progress than he is speaking about.
    When you get rid of a QB of Foles’s stature, your not going to trade for a guy who may not play for you.
    Only the Sixers would do something so boneheaded, ala Andrew Bynum.
    Chip seems too smart to make a foolish move like that, so I have to believe he knows Sam will heal fully and will be ready by training camp to earn the starting spot.
    Chip wants the best available QB, that can most efficiently run his uptempo spread style of offense, and he seems very confident that Sam is up to this task.
    I am all in with Sam and Chip and I can’t wait to see how good he looks in our offensive scheme.
    Go Eagles !!!

  394. 394 Avery Greene said at 2:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ACViking:

    I came across this and remember a post you had awhile back.

    http://www.sportsdatallc.com/2012/01/31/from-draft-pick-to-super-bowl-winning-qb/

  395. 395 ACViking said at 2:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    AG:

    Thanks. Love those jerseys all over the field.
    ____________

    Seems timely to add then that with the addition of Bradford, the Eagles have increased their chances of winning the SB — solely on the premise that 1st Rd QBs are more talented than lower round picks and own 56% of the SB titles.

    Of course scores of other factors are critically important. But the data favors the Eagles more now than a week ago.

  396. 396 Avery Greene said at 2:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I agree. Here’s an interesting read that I got it from, gotta say this guy feels pretty strongly about Bradford and CK.

    http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/03/chip-kelly-is-brilliant-and-youre-all-dumb

  397. 397 anon said at 2:30 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I like that they only credit eli with one SB.

  398. 398 MattE said at 3:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    …. I hate him he is like Rainman gambling.

  399. 399 sonofdman said at 3:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It was from January 2012, right before Eli won his second. They also don’t have Flacco and Wilson, and only have 3 for Brady.

  400. 400 ACViking said at 3:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Must be from 2010.

    My own calculations, through this season, resulted in a 51% figure for 1st Rd QBs winning the SB

    Regardless, the principle remains the same.

  401. 401 sonofdman said at 4:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They have Rodgers on there (2010 season) but not Eli’s second (2011 season), so it has to be between Feb 2011 and Feb 2012.

    Also the date in the link says 1/31/2012 πŸ™‚

  402. 402 botto said at 3:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    nice stuff I liked this part:

    The Nick Foles-for-Sam Bradford trade shouldn’t be this difficult of a sell to a fan base with a total of zero Super Bowl victory parades

    ouch!

  403. 403 ACViking said at 2:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Re: Full Disclosure on Bradford Trade — Not an Historical Anomoly

    Early in the 1991 draft, new Eagles head coach Rich Kotite traded the Birds’ 1992 1st Rd pick for the to move up from 19th to 8th overall to select All American OT Antone Davis from UTn.

    With the 7th pick in Rd 2, pick 33 overall, the Falcons selected a QB from So. Miss named Brett Favre . . . who spent the next 12 months binging on beer and funyons in his favorite Flowery Branch bars, and generally trying to get himself kicked out of the NFL for excessive stupidity.

    Before the 1992 draft, Green Bay HOF GM Ron Wolf took that 1st Rd pick he’d acquired (in a case of highway robbery) from Kotite and Eagles and traded it to Atlanta for Favre.

    That was pick 19 overall in the draft. For a 2nd-string QB on his way out of the NFL.

    Think about that (. . . ACV, are you reading this? . . . ).

    The Packers GM gave up a 1st for a very hard-to-value but supremely talented QB who didn’t complete a pass the prior year.

    And that’s why Ron Wolf’s going to be enshrined in Canton this August.

  404. 404 Bert's Bells said at 2:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    “Sam Bradford” does have a “gunslinger” ring to it.

  405. 405 ACViking said at 2:58 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That Oklahoma breeding

  406. 406 anon said at 2:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Different situations and interestingly, Farve is the exact risk Kelly would never take (maybe Packers GM knew there would be way fewer distractions in GB).

    Gotta wonder if, roles reversed, if Wolf would take a guy w/ as much injury history as Kelly. BUT if kelly can use sport science to add value to player’s careers it would be the type of institutional competitive advantage that would keep eagles ahead for at least a year or two (until other teams caught up)

  407. 407 ACViking said at 3:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    A:

    I was just about to write the same thing regarding Favre.

    Then I remembered that from ’95-’98, he played within the system in GB and had huge years.

    Great question regarding the injury.

    One can only hope that a local reporter — like Jimmy Bama — reaches out for Ron Wolf to ask him exactly what you’re asking.

  408. 408 botto said at 2:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    wow.
    does Bradford like funyons?
    I hope so

  409. 409 ACViking said at 3:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Okay, T-Law.

    I feel a bit better now about Bradford.

    BUT THE GUY MUST STAY HEALTHY!!!

  410. 410 ICDogg said at 3:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s the whole thing with me. We pick up guys with a history of being injury prone, and then if they get injured, we can’t just pretend we didn’t see it coming.

  411. 411 HawaiianEagle said at 3:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Foles has a history of injury. Keep him?

  412. 412 myartz04 said at 3:11 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Thank you. For those that haven’t figured it out….Nice Foles IS injury prone.

  413. 413 peteike said at 3:11 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    watch both of them get injured next season. Shhhhh, knock on wood

  414. 414 MattE said at 3:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    thank you. Injury prone because he can’t feel a blind side hit coming for his life.

  415. 415 ICDogg said at 3:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    never said he wasn’t

  416. 416 myartz04 said at 3:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I was speaking in general…not directed directly toward you.

  417. 417 ICDogg said at 3:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The biggest differences there are (a) the apparent seriousness of the injury history and (b) the amount of resources committed to keeping one as opposed to the other.

  418. 418 HawaiianEagle said at 3:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Can’t be certain now but if we had kept Nick we would have had to pay him – I imagine somewhere in the same range that Sam is getting now. Agree – injuries were different and Sam’s was more serious but lets see if CK can keep him healthy – big IF.

  419. 419 Crus57 said at 3:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    With the amount of times it gets used in press conferences and blog articles, the phrase “Sports Science” feels like it’s gaining a sort of cult status, like some totem of future health.

  420. 420 CrackSammich said at 3:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It’s football–He’s going to get hurt. Just hope it’s not an ACL.

  421. 421 ACViking said at 3:26 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    “It’s football–He’s going to get hurt.”
    _________

    Brees,
    Brady,
    Eli Manning,
    Peyton Manning,
    Rivers,
    Flacco,
    Dalton,
    Stafford,
    Tannehill,
    Rodgers,
    Roethlisberger
    Wilson

    These 12 QBs, collectively, have missed just 28 starts over the past 5 seasons (or less for RTnhl and ADltn), covering 912 starts.

    It’s not a sure thing that a QB’s going to be hurt.

  422. 422 botto said at 3:41 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    didn’t peyton miss whole season?
    and brees?

  423. 423 ACViking said at 3:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sorry . . . correction duly noted!!!!

    (Stupid me)

  424. 424 CrackSammich said at 11:37 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    Sure, but of of that list, Brees missed time for a hurt shoulder, BRady tore his ACL, Peyton missed a full season for a neck injury and player the last half of the season with two high ankle sprains, Rivers played all of last season with a broken rib, Rodgers broke his collar bone, Rothlisburger played with ankle issues, etc. Injuries will happen. Bradford has been incredibly unlucky.

  425. 425 Mac said at 3:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip got his hands on some of that bone re-growing juice from Harry Potter recently.

  426. 426 HawaiianEagle said at 3:20 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Just make sure its the nurse and not that crazy professor that applies it…

  427. 427 sonofdman said at 3:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Wow. I remember the trade up to get Antone Davis and I knew that Ron Wolf traded a first rounder to get Favre, but I did not realize that Wolf used the pick we traded away to get Davis in the trade for Favre.

  428. 428 ACViking said at 3:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Doesn’t that just make the whole Kotite era perfect?

  429. 429 sonofdman said at 3:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It really does. It basically brings back the exact feelings of ineptitude I remember from watching Kotite coach.

  430. 430 ACViking said at 3:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    bam!

  431. 431 mksp said at 3:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    *Reposting this from a couple nights ago, seems appropriate here*
    _____________

    In the spirit of AC (and I apologize if you’ve already shared this):

    The Nick Foles – Sam Bradford trade echoes another swap of Quarterbacks made by the Philadelphia Eagles.

    Sonny Jurgenson was drafted by the Eagles in 1957. After a year spent as back up to Bobby Thomason in 1957, he spent the next three season backing up the Philadelphia Eagle and Los Angeles Ram legend, Norm Van Brocklin, a Hall of Famer. Sonny was on the sideline when Norm Van Brocklin guided the Eagles to a 17-13 win over Vince Lombardi’s Packers in the 1960 NFL Championship Game, which as it turns out was the Eagles’ last Championship.

    Sonny took over for Van Brocklin in 1961 and had a tremendous year, throwing for over 3,700 yards and tying the then NFL-record of 32 touchdowns. However, after an injury-plagued 1963 campaign, Sonny Jurgenson was traded to the Washington Redskins for Quarterback Norm Snead, five years younger than Sonny, and CB Claude Crabb.

    Sonny Jurgenson went on to throw for over 32,000 yards and 255 TDs over his career, and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1983, though he never won a Championship as the starting Quarterback.

    Norm Snead on the other hand, while he did go to four Pro Bowls, is mostly notorious for being the last Quarterback to win a game with a 0.0 passer rating, when he went 3-14 for 26 yards and no TDs in a 12-9 win (against his former team).
    ______________

    So, the key question: Which QB is Sonny Jurgenson, Sam Bradford or Nick Foles?

  432. 432 ACViking said at 3:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    MKSP:

    Huge smile when I read this.

    Excellent work.

    So many bad Sixers trades, and Eagles trades, and Phillies trades.

    This one may have been the first — 1 year before the Phillies traded future HOF pitcher Ferguson Jenkins for Larry Jackson — and 4 years before the Sixers traded Wilt (doesn’t matter what they got back!)

  433. 433 RobNE said at 3:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Von Hayes

  434. 434 ACViking said at 3:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    541?

  435. 435 RobNE said at 3:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    yes

  436. 436 Bert's Bells said at 3:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I joke about Von Hayes as much as the next guy, but he was a pretty productive player for the Phillies. Cleveland got a bunch of scrubs and an over-the-hill Manny Trillo.

  437. 437 ACViking said at 3:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    BB:

    You forgot the still-active Julio Franco.

    Hayes had a couple-three very good seasons.

  438. 438 Bert's Bells said at 7:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    A guy like Julio Franco makes me think I should have stuck with baseball and been a mediocre major leaguer into my 50s.

    I did quick google and found this good piece that argues Von Hayes was a steal for the Phillies.

    http://philliesnation.com/archives/2010/07/big-trades-and-von-hayes/

  439. 439 Bert's Bells said at 7:26 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Also, it was his “potential” that drove people crazy. As a player he’s a lot a more successful version of Dom Brown (#9!). Similar gait, similar tools. At this point, most Phillies fans would be thrilled if Brown was half the player Hayes was.

  440. 440 mksp said at 3:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    My dad brought this trade up to me as an argument against the Foles/Bradford swap.

    I argued that Sam Bradford being the more talented QB, was actually Sonny Jurgenson in this scenario.

    The Rams may have just traded for Norm Snead.

  441. 441 ACViking said at 3:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You hope the universe operates in some sort of inevitable harmony.

    The Sixers fixed the Wilt deal by getting Dr. J for basically a 6-pack of RWB beer.

    The Phillies got Tug McGraw from the Mets for Del Unser (who made his way back to Philadelphia in time to deliver the most exciting pinch-hit double down the line against Houston you’ll ever see).

    The Eagles? Maybe this is the one.

  442. 442 ICDogg said at 3:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    And Steve Carlton for Rick Wise

  443. 443 ACViking said at 3:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Long term big-time deal.

    Wise had a good run ’til ’78

  444. 444 ACViking said at 3:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    By the way, I think it’s a great argument.

    Washington made the smart move there — taking the risk on the far more talented QB who’d been injured for a good part of the prior 2 seasons.

  445. 445 ICDogg said at 3:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Jerry Chambers, Darrall Imhoff, and Archie Clark

  446. 446 ACViking said at 4:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ICD:

    Nice job. Imhoff was such a stiff.

    Archie Clark had that sweet jumper with his arms fully extended when he released the ball.

    Traded early in the ’71-’72 season for Fred Carter and Kevin Loughery.

    Last good ‘6er . . . and then the team tanked

  447. 447 ICDogg said at 4:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’ve heard at least a few stories about why Wilt demanded that trade away from the Sixers. He was promised part ownership in the Sixers and they reneged; he was frustrated after two consecutive first round eliminations; he wanted to be in the LA scene (especially the women)… don’t know what the real story was

  448. 448 ACViking said at 5:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ownership was the story I always believed.

    Wilt was 2 hours from NYC. Don’t think he was missing out on the social scene. In fact, I think he lived there and commuted to Philadelphia.

  449. 449 P_P_K said at 4:42 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Great post, much appreciated This is what you do so well, ACViking.

    I got curious and found the Falcons used that 19th pick to take a rb named Tony Smith, Favres roommate So. Miss. Tony Smith, who? Exactly. A complete bust.

  450. 450 laeagle said at 4:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Thanks for the shitty memory. I can remember exactly where I was when I was trying to deal with the Antone Davis trade. I remember walking from the lunch hall at college back to my dorm, trying to figure out what the hell had just happened. “Hey, maybe he’s good?”

    God, draft coverage sure was different then. Finding out news sure was as well.

  451. 451 ACViking said at 5:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    that’s a great story.

    i’m still waiting to hear what GB gave the Eagles besides the 9th pick

  452. 452 MattE said at 3:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    My buddy is a 49er’s fan and thinks (like most of the media) that Chip will just run back to college with his tail in-between his legs if this fails…. sorry but i dont see it. Chip is not from a powerhouse alma-mater like Harbaugh and Chip doesn’t know what the word “tradition” means. So i just dont see the allegiance to the college game with Chip (to him i think football is football). A guy like him wants to do things his way and prove everyone that nothing is written in stone. He wants to succeed at the highest levels of football competition… this B.S. that he would run back to college really grinds my gears.

  453. 453 anon said at 3:26 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Agree. Harbaugh won’t be at michigan for long.

  454. 454 MattE said at 3:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    yeah he’s gonna have less time than Chip in Philly…. because Michigan is true dumpster fire and he isn’t inheriting Mike Singletarys roster lol

  455. 455 Dominik said at 4:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Do you think he dies? Or do you think an NFL team will pay him 12m per year?

    Because if not, there is no way in freaking hell this guy won’t be successful. One of the few coaches I’d put right up there with Belichick, Meyer, Saban, Chip, his brother, Payton, Carroll.

    Historically, it won’t even take long before he gets them back to winning meaningful games. He turned San Diego and Stanford around pretty quick and he didn’t have great resources there.

    Also, the big 10 is weak. Meyer was winning while he was rebuilding his roster. It may take two years before he can beat Ohio State, but I think they will be the #2 in the Big 10 even next year.

    You don’t have to like him, but that guy is one hell of a coach.

  456. 456 ACViking said at 3:30 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Agree, as well (like Anon).

    Kelly’s offense works with Mark Sanchez against all but the 3-4 best teams in each conference.

    Put a better QB in there — hopefully Bradford or someone else — and you have a very hard-to-beat team. . . .

    ‘Cause the defense, in another year or so, will catch up to the offense.

  457. 457 anon said at 3:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Honestly if we can get to 28 ppg, with an improved defense i think we can go 12-4.

    I do think our changes make us a much better playoff team.

  458. 458 RobNE said at 3:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    regular season too. Think of the SF game where we couldn’t even try to run the ball in.

  459. 459 Alistair Middlemiss said at 3:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    SF game was weird, for 3 quarters we were dominating the scoring and they could not move the ball at all. We played conservative football and it bit us in the ass – we could move the ball through the air but Chip dialed back after the beating Foles took in the Racists game. Last drive showed we could move it when we really needed to.

  460. 460 anon said at 3:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Last drive shows why no McCoy, gotta have confidence you can run the ball from there.

  461. 461 bill said at 3:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I agree, but Pete Carroll didn’t.

  462. 462 RobNE said at 3:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think Pete got way too scared of leaving clock for Brady, and out thought himself. Belicheck got too him by not calling time out. This is after Belicheck saves the Ravens game down 14 by calling legal but highly questionable formations.

    He’s a wizard. They never even get there if he doesn’t go all tomfoolery in the Ravens game.

  463. 463 anon said at 3:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah he’s next level with it.

  464. 464 sonofdman said at 4:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    This is why Chip is trading Mathis and using a 3 man offensive line. We will have 2 decoys on every play and the defense will have to figure out who. This way we can also find more playing time for Murray, Mathews, Sproles, Celek, and Ertz.

  465. 465 anon said at 4:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    genius!

  466. 466 anon said at 3:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    furthers the point i think

  467. 467 MattE said at 3:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The national media is gettin to me because 50% of them are gonna be right unfortunately.

  468. 468 RobNE said at 3:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    he should worry about his own dumpster fire team

  469. 469 unhinged said at 8:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Isn’t this what we all love about the guy? His fear of failing doesn’t register on any scale. He is stoked by the challenge and has license to do almost anything that he thinks can help. I am most intrigued by his posture toward players: He doesn’t coddle and he doesn’t grind. He demands adults who take responsibility for their own affairs and who are totally committed to succeeding. He is more attuned and qualified to do his job than probably 90% of his peers.

  470. 470 76mustang said at 9:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip would have multiple offers from other teams in the NFL – worst case he could be an OC…don’t think he cares for recruiting and schmoozing supporters…

  471. 471 myartz04 said at 3:30 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Rex Ryan. Signs Incognito, gets McCoy, signs Percy Harvin and Matt Cassell is the QB. Disaster waiting to happen?

  472. 472 ICDogg said at 3:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The Jets are intriguing as well.

  473. 473 myartz04 said at 3:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I agree. I can’t put my finger on if the Jets are actually be good or not.

  474. 474 RobNE said at 3:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think Bradford can take them pretty far.

  475. 475 ICDogg said at 3:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    heh

  476. 476 myartz04 said at 3:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I see what you did there…

  477. 477 ACViking said at 3:40 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That a great comment!

  478. 478 peteike said at 3:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What would Demarco think if they traded his boy. He wouldnt care, he got paid, who am I kidding

  479. 479 Mkdazmedia-embrace the chaos said at 4:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Imagine if he gets traded with him!

  480. 480 oreofestar said at 4:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    But he’s our franchise QB

  481. 481 ICDogg said at 3:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They can be, depends on how fast their key players age

  482. 482 RobNE said at 3:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    disaster when he got there. Why not take some chances.

  483. 483 Guest said at 3:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    just like a certain someone I know….

  484. 484 RobNE said at 3:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Jets? I mean you aren’t beating the Pats in the near term if you don’t take some risks in that division.

  485. 485 anon said at 3:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    playoff ready team. That D is locked and loaded and now they have a lot of talent on offense that they never had in NYJ. Be interesting to see how they stack against those teams.

  486. 486 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Yeah, but….. Matt Cassell. And it’s not like Harvin’s ever really lived up to the hype.

  487. 487 MattE said at 3:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly does’t have big balls, his big balls happen to have Chip Kelly.

    Chip Kelly doesn’t need a cut-off hoodie cause he made visors look good.

    Chip Kelly doens’t need a GM because he only uses Chip Kelly dollars anyway covered by the FDIC.

    Chip Kelly ain’t worried bout nothin…. it then became the only hit for French Montana and Chip didn’t want any royalties because…. he ain’t worried bout nothin.

    Chip can’t even spell ACL let alone worry about (I ain’t worried bout nothin).

    Chip once rocked the league so much in 1 offseason that they changed the NFL’s official song to “Rock the Boat Baby”.

  488. 488 anon said at 3:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The Saints may have to release RG Jahri Evans to make cap space for C.J. Spiller.

    Yes please!!!!

  489. 489 MattE said at 3:58 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i got a few friends that know him in Philly. that would be awesome.

  490. 490 Insomniac said at 4:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Do you have friends that know ODB?

  491. 491 sonofdman said at 4:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Do they have his money?

  492. 492 Insomniac said at 4:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Anything to get him on the team!!

  493. 493 sonofdman said at 4:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That sounds promising. He was awesome a few years ago. Is he still performing as a high level? He’s not that old, is he?

  494. 494 Joe Minx said at 5:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    No, his play is nowhere near where it used to be. Mathis is 10x better, plus he’ll be 32 in August so there really wouldn’t be anything gained by that.

  495. 495 sonofdman said at 6:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Thanks. That’s what I was worried about. Declining play + big name usually means that it is not worth it.

  496. 496 ICDogg said at 4:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That would definitely be something to consider. I imagine a lot of other teams would also have interest though.

  497. 497 ICDogg said at 4:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly hasn't done anything weird yet today. Someone should check on him…— Eric Stangel (@EricStangel) March 13, 2015

  498. 498 Insomniac said at 4:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip probably put ketchup on his waffles today.

  499. 499 mksp said at 4:11 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/Vellastrations/status/576473943617511425

  500. 500 RC5000 said at 4:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s hardly weird lol

  501. 501 mksp said at 4:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ha, I meant this is the reason he hasn’t done anything weird today. Busy.

  502. 502 RC5000 said at 4:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I know. I was just kidding because it was so ironic.

  503. 503 anon said at 4:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Should like to SAS, his comments this week are so absurd.

  504. 504 mksp said at 4:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Evan Mathis for Tavon Austin, who says no?

    Edit: Reminder that Evan Mathis is the oldest starting OG in the league and making $6.5 MM this year.

  505. 505 sonofdman said at 4:05 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Me

  506. 506 anon said at 4:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    No way. Tavon can’t help block or help you in the redzone.

  507. 507 Insomniac said at 4:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Can I add some extremely foul language before that no?

  508. 508 RC5000 said at 4:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Probably nah. What athletic guards are there in draft that would be an upgrade? Phillip Dorsett and Devin Smith are in draft if he wants a field stretcher.

  509. 509 ICDogg said at 4:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I would consider it. I think we’re trading old for young and expensive for cheap but there is the matter of how good CK thinks he is

  510. 510 Mac said at 4:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Let’s trade Mathis, Bradford, Kendricks, Boykin, and 2015 and 2016 1st round picks for Andrew Luck.

  511. 511 mksp said at 4:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Throw in the entire 2015 draft and Fletcher Cox and *maybe* that gets it done.

  512. 512 ICDogg said at 4:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CSNPhilly/status/576473425889345536

  513. 513 anon said at 4:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    looks like Foles has spent a lot of time outside in TX.

  514. 514 peteike said at 4:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Outdoor yoga? or is he working out with Donovan

  515. 515 anon said at 4:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s probably why CK said it was time to move on.

  516. 516 holeplug said at 4:32 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    so i guess now we know bradford is worth the 19th pick in the draft

  517. 517 b3nz0z said at 4:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    then kanye got up and took his jersey away

  518. 518 SteveH said at 5:20 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s not completely accurate, they got picks and Foles. Just not first round picks.

  519. 519 jshort said at 5:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Glad he’s gone, was getting tired of making excuses for him during a game. Was a FOles supporter of course. I gave him the extra cap for the Oakland game, see the Rams gave him all caps.

  520. 520 P_P_K said at 5:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Is Nick playing under the same contract he had with the Eagles?

  521. 521 ICDogg said at 5:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I heard they were talking about an extension

  522. 522 Insomniac said at 4:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    We got the physical RBs. Now we just need WRs that can win contested catches. Someone start tweeting Murray about trying to get Dez here next year.

  523. 523 anon said at 4:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’d laugh if we gave 2 firsts and 15m to dez

  524. 524 ACViking said at 4:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Now if Kelly did this . . .

    I’m feeling GREAT!!!

    The difference Bryant would create between the Eagles’ offense and opposing defenses is worth every bit of an extra #1

  525. 525 Dominik said at 4:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Bad idea to invest two 1sts in a WR who will earn 14+m/year.

    Dez is very, very good. But no WR is worth that.

  526. 526 HawaiianEagle said at 4:31 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Jerry Rice

  527. 527 Insomniac said at 4:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chad Hall

  528. 528 Insomniac said at 4:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    If we’re going to be miserable then we might as well make the Cowgirls more miserable.

  529. 529 ICDogg said at 4:23 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It’d be hilarious but no cap room to do something like that.

  530. 530 P_P_K said at 4:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’m hoping Jordan Matthews is going to be that guy.

  531. 531 Insomniac said at 4:35 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You’re going to be hoping for a long time then.

  532. 532 P_P_K said at 4:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You’re not giving love to a rookie who caught for almost 900 yards and 8tds?

  533. 533 Insomniac said at 4:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He is what he is. A 6’3 WR that doesn’t know how to use his size, win jumpballs, or have good enough hands to win contested catches. He’s been like that since college and you think he’ll just learn that in the NFL? No.

  534. 534 P_P_K said at 4:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I remember being impressed with Matthews as the season went on, thinking the kid was learning how to use his body. I’ve been wrong before, we’ll see.

  535. 535 Insomniac said at 5:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I really hope I’m wrong too but he looks like he’ll just be a solid WR.

  536. 536 Mitchell said at 5:32 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    If your definition of a “solid receiver” is what Matthews did last year as a rookie, then that sounds great to me.

  537. 537 peteike said at 5:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I kind of feel same way watching him, yet he did have good numbers. System numbers ha. Hes a hard worker so maybe he can bump it up a notch. I just ranted about this same thing on another thread in terms of teams WR group, not JMatt

  538. 538 eagleyankfan said at 5:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    we talked about expectations last year for him and I threw out the number 600 and people told me I was nuts…

  539. 539 myartz04 said at 4:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Chip was at Officer Wilson’s funeral today and gave his 10 year old son a football. What a racist prick.

  540. 540 HawaiianEagle said at 4:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Wonder if Stephen A was there giving the kid sarcasm.

  541. 541 P_P_K said at 4:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What a great thing for Chip to do. Nothing will bring back the boys Dad, but I’d imagine that football will sit in his bedroom and, I hope, convey a message that there are good people in the world.

  542. 542 Patrick said at 4:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    With the Dolphins acquiring Kenny Stills, Mike Wallace is being shopped and apparently his huge contract won’t transfer to the purchasing team and he’ll only count around 5,5 mil against the cap and can be cut at any point without dead money if I understood people right.

    That’d be a really interesting option, when Jordan Matthews and Josh Huff have their strengths working the middle of the field and running after the catch. Having Mike Wallace as a deep threat wouldn’t be the worst. He has been better in Miami than I expected.

  543. 543 botto said at 4:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    im for it, we need some speed going deep, people hate this guy though.

  544. 544 DamonL86 said at 4:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    absolutely this guy is the epitome of a team player.

  545. 545 SteveH said at 5:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Mike Wallace is the guy who got pissed when a teammate caught a touchdown pass. I can’t imagine he fits Chips vision of #culture, even though I admit that I have little idea what that vision is.

  546. 546 Greg Richards said at 4:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Get ready to die laughing.

    Here’s the contract the Raiders gave Nate Allen:

    4 years, $23M – $6.9M fully guaranteed($4M bonus + $2.9M guaranteed 2015 salary), an additional $4.9M(his 2016 salary) guaranteed for injury only and becomes fully guaranteed if he’s on the roster the 3rd day of the 2016 league year. So even if he’s cut before next year, it’s a 1-year, $6.9M deal.

    I said Shady had the best agent. Nope!

  547. 547 Insomniac said at 4:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s not even funny. That’s just losing faith in humanity.

  548. 548 botto said at 4:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    the funny part will be if we got CHUNGED and he starts playing better.

  549. 549 P_P_K said at 4:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I was having a good day until you introduced that into my mind.

  550. 550 botto said at 4:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    you’ve been chunged

  551. 551 P_P_K said at 4:58 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You, sir, and dangerous to my mental health and my sense of humor. Well done.

  552. 552 bill said at 4:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    shows how bad the safety market is – everyone thinks the grass is greener with the other guy’s castoffs.

  553. 553 anon said at 5:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Raiders HAVE to spend $$. If he was a real player he probably could have gotten a devin mccourty deal.

  554. 554 sonofdman said at 6:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Good point.

  555. 555 ICDogg said at 4:58 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr04/13/14/anigif_enhanced-19085-1392318352-7.gif

  556. 556 Greg Richards said at 5:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nate Allen got a better deal than Rahim Moore. Could end up being better than any safety other than McCourty.

  557. 557 SteveH said at 5:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The Raiders are in a unique position because they can’t attract talent worth paying a lot of money to, yet they still need to pay a certain amount of money to meet the NFLs minimum salary requirements. Enter Nate Allen, middling to poor nfl safety fleecing them for huge bucks because they are OBLIGATED to spend the money.

  558. 558 anon said at 5:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    theyll be big players at the vet combine

  559. 559 ICDogg said at 4:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/hearing-news-of-murray-joining-eagles-dez-texts-michael-irvin-what-are-we-doing.html/

  560. 560 P_P_K said at 5:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Beautiful.

  561. 561 Insomniac said at 5:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Phase 1 of dismantling the Cowboys – Signing Murray (check)
    Phase 2 of dismantling the Cowboys – Sign Dez next year
    Phase 3 of dismantling the Cowboys – Send laxative laced cupcakes to their entire OL before playing us
    Phase 4 – throw Jerruh into a fountain of youth.

  562. 562 anon said at 5:05 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Throwing stones from glass houses?

  563. 563 All Things Bad@ss said at 7:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Oh, that’s rich! You know Dez is gonna be all up in arms on the sideline next season as DM is smashing through their D with reckless abandon. Might actually punch JJ at some point. This could have a serious domino effect … love it.

  564. 564 eagleyankfan said at 4:59 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Not sure what Jersey I want next.. Kiko? Bradford? Hmmm…

  565. 565 anon said at 5:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    kiko

  566. 566 eagleyankfan said at 5:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I do think I’m leaning that way — wait are you Kiko?

  567. 567 anon said at 5:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    if i was i wouldn’t be spending so much time on the blog.

  568. 568 eagleyankfan said at 5:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It’s been forever since I had a defensive guys jersey. I like this idea. I think Nnamdi was the last one I bought.

  569. 569 Avery Greene said at 5:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I still rock my Dawkins. Thinking about getting Murray’s this year tho.

  570. 570 anon said at 5:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    haha can you even wear that out?

  571. 571 HawaiianEagle said at 5:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Mike Evans

  572. 572 ICDogg said at 5:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    https://cbsphilly.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/mariota1.jpg

  573. 573 HawaiianEagle said at 5:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That guy looks like a cross between Harbaugh and Fonzy…

  574. 574 ICDogg said at 5:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Angelo Cataldi (WIP Sports Talk morning show)

  575. 575 deshawnbentley said at 6:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ertz

  576. 576 BreakinAnklez said at 8:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    How about getting someone that Chip can no longer trade/cut? Otherwise you might be disappointed…

  577. 577 Media Mike said at 8:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Can you buy a “Chip” jersey?

  578. 578 D3FB said at 11:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Do they sell Jeffery Lurie jerseys?

  579. 579 anon said at 5:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Bradford took Vick’s number.

  580. 580 eagleyankfan said at 5:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’ll be weird wearing Vicks Jersey now.

  581. 581 anon said at 5:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    both pretty fragile dudes.

  582. 582 ICDogg said at 5:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Duct tape over it and write “Bradford”

  583. 583 Javi Echie said at 5:11 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Exactly what I have planned for my Vick jerseys

  584. 584 BreakinAnklez said at 8:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    That’s how I now have an “AVANT” jersey…damn TO

  585. 585 Media Mike said at 8:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Matthews jersey

  586. 586 BreakinAnklez said at 8:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nah. Avant makes it a throwback

  587. 587 Media Mike said at 8:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Or a throw out. I can’t stand a guy who catches 3 passes a year and waives his hands in the air to a fictional character after each of those 3 catches.

  588. 588 BreakinAnklez said at 8:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You watch your mouth!!! Avant was a class act. I didn’t say it was a Santana Moss jersey. The fact he celebrates every catch like a TD drives me crazy.

  589. 589 botto said at 5:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    dumbass, why not Nicks ol number 9?

  590. 590 HawaiianEagle said at 5:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I have 2 Vick jerseys (gifts from NYG friends) so together they equal 14 and Cooper…screwed either way.

  591. 591 ICDogg said at 5:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    @davespadaro @Mdevlin90 Dave, was that a poop joke?— The Wizard of Azz (@jerrytheazzman) March 13, 2015

  592. 592 Frencheaglesfan said at 5:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Awesome, thanks for the laugh

  593. 593 sonofdman said at 6:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Holy crap. That is hilarious.

  594. 594 oreofestar said at 5:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Lol the Raider shave Nate Allen 6 mil a year with 12 guaranteed HAHA

  595. 595 oreofestar said at 5:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Hah that’s more than Malcolm

  596. 596 P_P_K said at 5:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    “The Eagles are Playoff Bound”
    http://thebiglead.com/2015/03/13/the-philadelphia-eagles-are-playoff-bound-and-here-are-five-reasons-why/

  597. 597 ICDogg said at 5:32 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    L.McCoy cap hit for 2015 11.8 million, news eagles: Murray (5mill), Thurmond(3.25), Mathews(2) and Kiko(.795).. combined cap hit 11.05 mill— Derrick Gunn (@TheRealDGunnCSN) March 13, 2015

  598. 598 GermanEagle said at 5:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Bam!

  599. 599 P_P_K said at 5:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Impressive.

  600. 600 peteike said at 5:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    “As Joe Banner pointed out, the
    total money spent over three years in McCoy’s Eagles contract and
    Murray’s new contract is almost identical. The difference? Murray is
    getting a reported $18 million in guaranteed money, and McCoy’s deal was
    not guaranteed.

    It’s true that McCoy had a big cap hit in 2015, but that number was
    scheduled to go down in 2016 and 2017. The Eagles could have pretty
    easily guaranteed him some money, restructured and lowered the 2015 cap
    hit. But they chose not to go that route.

    In other words, for roughly the same cost over the next three years,
    Kelly thought Murray was a better bet for his offense than McCoy.”

    From Sheils article

  601. 601 SteveH said at 7:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    This comment needs to be read by everyone who thinks we did the super saver discount going the Murray route.

  602. 602 Media Mike said at 7:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The only problem with our moves is not getting a pick along with Kiko and giving more than we got on Bradford / Foles; the rest is good.

  603. 603 Avery Greene said at 7:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Savings was the reason given, but Banner’s other comment is more germane. That basically CK didn’t like McCoy. And considering the stats and what CK wants, that makes more sense.

  604. 604 SteveH said at 7:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    that’s true, however there seems to be a lot of talk here about all the players we got for the same price as Mccoy, which isn’t really true unless you were looking at Mccoy as a one year rental. We basically just swapped Mccoy for Murray, which is fine, except we had no idea that we were going to be able to get Murray when FA started. So Chip saying “we looked at it as trading Mccoy for Alonso and Maxwell” is a fair bit of disingenuity on his part.

  605. 605 Avery Greene said at 7:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t see it as that. It’s much better to say “we looked at it as trading Mccoy for Alonxo and Maxwell” than “I didn’t like the way Mccoy ran and we needed to get rid of him.”

    Coaches can’t bad mouth players, and he did Mccoy more of a solid than throw him under the bus.

  606. 606 Christopher Miller said at 7:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think people are losing some perspective of timing though in that when we announced McCoy we were going to go hard after mccourtey maxwell and probably knew Bradford in the works. I am thinking mccourtey sticking gave him more flexibility to spend and I would not be surprised if his original plan was a cheaper Gore/Matthews tandem if he really did want two. I don’t think Chips plan was replace money of Shady with similar money in other RB even if they are more one cut and run types.

  607. 607 laeagle said at 7:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Every single one of these comparisons completely forgets about Alonso. he’s a major part of that deal. Even if you look at Murray and McCoy’s contract numbers as equal (which only works if you look at McCoy’s new contract, not his old one), there’s still the matter of a brand new star linebacker to consider.

    Salary cap issues aside, running style issues aside, everything else aside, at the end of the day, it’s a simple equation:

    Kiko + Murray > Shady

    Any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Which is lucky, since that’s when the games are scheduled.

  608. 608 Mac said at 12:31 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    Agreed. Shiel seems to have forgotten that his “source” has a middle name of “nickles”

  609. 609 anon said at 5:40 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ESP Straight trolling

    Mariota said he doesn't think Sam Bradford being on roster would stop #Eagles from trading up: http://t.co/Qxxzf5Kmyd— Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) March 13, 2015

  610. 610 Joe Minx said at 5:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Of course he didn’t say that at all. But hey, gotta keep the train running. Even after you were completely & totally proven wrong about your cockamamie fantasy.

  611. 611 ICDogg said at 5:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I won’t rule out monkeys flying out of my ass

  612. 612 Insomniac said at 5:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    A visual graphic of this happening.

    http://victoryswig.com/music/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/larsbarrelofmonkeys.jpg

  613. 613 peteike said at 5:54 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    so he did sabotage his pro day

  614. 614 HawaiianEagle said at 5:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    “The culture precedes positive results. It doesn’t get tacked on as an afterthought on your way to the victory stand. Champions behave
    like champions before they’re champions; they have a winning standard of
    performance before they are winners.” Bill Walsh

  615. 615 Greg Richards said at 5:58 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ron Parker, Chiefs’ FA safety, just started following Byron Maxwell on twitter.

  616. 616 KAJomo said at 6:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    At this point he’s all that is really left for us at safety. I could see the eagles liking him too

  617. 617 anon said at 6:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    yeah surprised they haven’t done anything about that — sort of assumed they’d just wait until the draft.

    wonder if vet combine will be any good.

  618. 618 A_T_G said at 8:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    My god, you are a wellspring of juicy tidbits. How do you find something like that?

  619. 619 Frencheaglesfan said at 6:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The market is so quiet for crabtree, it’s surprising.

  620. 620 Sean Stott said at 9:26 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He’s just not clutch at all.

  621. 621 botto said at 6:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    where is ol fletcher going?

  622. 622 OregonDucker said at 6:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I heard he applied at Philly Sanitation.

  623. 623 HawaiianEagle said at 6:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Canton?…Nah.

  624. 624 Media Mike said at 6:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Making arrows maybe?

  625. 625 ACViking said at 6:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Re: Maxwell Contract

    Has a breakdown of Max’s contract been released?

    Signing bonus – roster or salary bonus amounts per season – salary per season?

  626. 626 Greg Richards said at 6:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    http://overthecap.com/player/byron-maxwell/1535/

    Basically it’s a $6M signing bonus, $1M guar base salary in 2015 with guaranteed $6.5M roster bonus, $7.5M in guaranteed 2016 salary, then the rest of the yearly salaries aren’t guaranteed. Can get out of deal after 2 years without significant dead money hit.

  627. 627 OregonDucker said at 6:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Not sure this is posted below but here’s Nate Allen for perspective.

    https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/576483402058215425

  628. 628 Media Mike said at 6:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Oakland is straight up smoking crack with that deal.

  629. 629 BreakinAnklez said at 8:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Agreed, but they HAVE to spend it somewhere. We’re gonna see some ridiculous deals since they didn’t get anyone who might deserve it and need to get to the floor

  630. 630 Media Mike said at 8:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They’re welcome to get to the salary floor by trading us a pick for DeMeco Ryans.

  631. 631 Mr. Magee said at 8:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They have no access to video or media of any sort out in Oakland

  632. 632 scratcherk said at 6:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    We traded Nick Foles traded for first round pick?

    Using the (outdated) draft value chart:

    Trade down from 3rd to fourth round = ~100 pts
    Next years 2nd = this years 3rd (assuming avg value) = ~200 pts
    Rams turned down first round pick to get Foles (assuming pick #19) = ~900 pts

    So they turned down a pick valued @ 900 points for our combined picks worth around 300 points + FOLES

    So Foles = 900 – 300 = 600 pts = late first round pick

    Pretty good value for Foles..

  633. 633 Greg Richards said at 6:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The trade value charts I’ve seen don’t downgrade the value of a pick the next year. It values them the same as this year’s and assumes they’ll be in the middle of the round. Also, we went from a 4th to a 5th not a 3rd to 4th. That drop is approximately 25 points. A 2nd next year is worth roughly 420 points. Pick 19 is 875 value points according to the chart I’m using(thehuddlereport.com). So, Foles value would be roughly 875 – 445 = 430 points. That’s the equivalent of a mid-2nd.

  634. 634 A_T_G said at 8:30 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They don’t downgrade future picks by a round? That is silly. So, based on your chats one could trade a 2nd this year and only expect to get a 2nd next year?

  635. 635 scratcherk said at 9:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    They are definitely downgraded by a round per year.

    So its actually better cuz i thought it was a 3rd to 4th, not 4th to 5th.

  636. 636 Media Mike said at 6:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Except a first for Bradford, who was going to be cut, isn’t honest.

  637. 637 oreofestar said at 6:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Are we sure he was going to be cut? And if a team offered a first for him what is so dishonest about it

  638. 638 Media Mike said at 6:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Who actually offered that first? I’m more likely to believe months of stories about Bradford being cut than I am Chip and Jeff lying about Bradford bringing in first round draft pick offers.

  639. 639 oreofestar said at 7:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What does Jeff gain by lying, like why do we assume that IG two coaches say something they are both liars

  640. 640 Media Mike said at 7:03 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He gains by trying to act like Foles was worth more than a #1.

  641. 641 oreofestar said at 7:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    OK you can have your theories but personally I’m not going to believe that 2 coaches are lying together about the value of a QB who was just traded

  642. 642 Media Mike said at 7:59 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Anything other than Foles and the 20 being worth Bradford, 10, and a conditional 2016 is a lie.

  643. 643 GEAGLE said at 10:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    its not a lie….. im shocked at how much front offices really value that kid.. its legit

  644. 644 GEAGLE said at 10:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i think there is a MAJOR discrepency between the way fans and media view Bradford and how NFL front offices view him… i was just as guilty as every other fan of under rating him, but im quickily learning that he has legit more value the we thought

  645. 645 Greg Richards said at 7:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The Rams’ coach, Jeff Fisher, told PFT that he was offered a late 1st but wanted Foles. I don’t think Fisher has any reason to be in collusion with Chip.

  646. 646 Media Mike said at 7:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He’s in collusion with himself to substantiate having Foles as his QB rather than going into the draft.

  647. 647 Media Mike said at 7:19 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    And I’ll add that I reject on principle anything less than Foles and 20 for Bradford, 10, and a 2016 as the correct valuation of that deal.

  648. 648 ICDogg said at 6:40 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    From LibertyBallers.com (talking about the Eagles, what else)

    The flurry of player transactions is mind-bending as he fills needs and creates others in an attempt to build a monster that Frankenstein could only blush at. Having faith in Chip is exactly that, because it’s so hard to get a read on what puzzle he’s trying to construct without the picture on the box to look at.

    MAybe, we figuRe It Out closer To the drAft?

  649. 649 A_T_G said at 8:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Excellent.

  650. 650 Greg Richards said at 6:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Jason La Canfora
    ‏@JasonLaCanfora

    1m1 minute ago

    Saints aren’t done making deals. Actively shopping disgruntled CB Keenan Lewis, asking teams not to divulge their inquiries …

  651. 651 HawaiianEagle said at 6:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Oregon (State)…

  652. 652 ICDogg said at 6:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    close enough

  653. 653 Greg Richards said at 6:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Eagles pursued him in 2013 but lost out to NO. Lewis for Mathis would make a ton of sense but then they’d likely move Boykin. How about Mathis and Boykin for Lewis, Rafael Bush, and a 5th round pick?

  654. 654 Media Mike said at 6:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Because he took less money to go “home” to New Orleans.

  655. 655 HawaiianEagle said at 6:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Home is not all its cracked up to be second time around always

  656. 656 Media Mike said at 6:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Especially when home is any city but Philly.

  657. 657 Alistair Middlemiss said at 8:16 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Keenan lewis’s contract is so cheap due to restructures compared to his talent level i would be happy to give up real assets to get him. Boykin+Mathis+3rd would be well worth it and we would genuinely have a fearsome defense then.

  658. 658 A_T_G said at 8:24 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    …Says the Hawaiian to the guys in 20 degree temperatures.

  659. 659 Insomniac said at 8:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Would you rather shovel lava or snow?

  660. 660 GEAGLE said at 6:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Doubt it. Won’t add another dollar at cb. Getting a little carried away. CB is a strength, they won’t allocate another penny to it besides maybe a rookie contract

  661. 661 Greg Richards said at 7:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    You think Walter Thurmond and Nolan Carroll competing for the #2 job makes CB a strength? Depth wise we’re pretty solid but we don’t have a surefire starter opposite Maxwell.

  662. 662 oreofestar said at 7:37 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sure but we have bigger needs and giving up assets to pay acb may not be a great idea but I don’t care either way

  663. 663 FairOaks said at 8:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    We have a bunch of potential solutions there — several guys to fight it out. Carroll might be just fine, as might be Thurmond. Or even Boykin. Maybe Watkins as a long shot.

    I’m more worried about safety. Right now we have the slim hope of Wolff returning to 2013 form (or better), or hope we can find something in the draft. Otherwise we’ll be dumpster diving and hope to get lucky.

  664. 664 Media Mike said at 8:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I wish somebody would have asked Chip or slow Billy why Boykin is an option there now, but he wasn’t when we choked away out division title vs. Dallas and Washington in back to back weeks.

  665. 665 FairOaks said at 6:58 PM on March 14th, 2015:

    Possibly we have more options now who can play the slot if Boykin doesn’t (Thurmond).

    While I do want to see Boykin tried out there, I’m not all that sure he’ll be good at it. It’s not just the height… I believe he is relatively slow. Big and slowish you can make work, short and fast you can make work with the right player, but short and slowish might be trouble on the outside.

  666. 666 Nicky Puffy CoatS said at 9:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’d do that deal in a heartbeat, too.

  667. 667 GEAGLE said at 10:23 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    im a fan dude… of course I would love us to go out and go get every good player available… think id be upset to see us go add a CB like him?
    ..
    we wont have any interest in trading Boykin rookie contract to take on his money, we have more then enough allocated to the CB position and tho we dont have name brands players that can hang their hats on, you guys will like Nolan Carrol… love his blend of size, athleticism and tecnique…. our CBs are more then good enough, wont see another veteran contract added at CB…. hopefully tomorrow you can rub it in my face when we add lewis, but dont hold your breath
    ,,,
    challenge you to download a few torrents of older miami games that Nolan saw time playing outside and check out his tecnique.. this city hasnt seen close to his true level of play…i was gonna right a post about the state of our secondary tomorrow anyway so i dont want to go into detail

  668. 668 Donald Kalinowski said at 8:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Keenan Lewis is one of the best CBs in football and he’s on a bargain contract. He’s also only 28 years old.

    I would make that deal without hesitation.

  669. 669 GEAGLE said at 10:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    i know exactly who he is.. think you are the only one who saw him shutdown desean in the playoffs?. Id love to have him, but it wont happen… only CB additions we will see is via the draft, if we can even afford to spend a pick on the position…
    ..
    i would gladly trade for him, but i dont at all expect to see it happen….. next time we see a DB added i will be a safety

  670. 670 NinjaP said at 6:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Boykin and a draft pick for Lewis?

  671. 671 Media Mike said at 6:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Billy Davis says Boykins isn’t close to outside the realm of possibility of that.

  672. 672 A_T_G said at 8:21 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Wait, what? That is the most confusing statement I have read in a long time.

  673. 673 Media Mike said at 8:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Billy Davis can’t use “outside” and “Boykin” in the same sentence. It is beyond his abilities to comprehend having Boykin outside.

  674. 674 GEAGLE said at 6:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Syke

  675. 675 Nicky Puffy CoatS said at 9:20 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Just Boykin for Lewis.

  676. 676 GEAGLE said at 6:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Highly doubt it. We are stacked with CB talent. Highly doubt they will spend another penny on the position. We need a young outside CB to groom on our bench on a cheap rookie contract. Bout 10 saint players are more realistic for us then Lewis

  677. 677 oreofestar said at 6:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    OK I was testing us our in Madden, Murray is filthy but he fumbled once tsk tsk, Bradford is no worse than Foles in Madden and I couldn’t effectively run with him but he’s better in Foles in that regard. Maxwell was completely ignored like they were picking on Nolan a bit. We need more weapons I don’t want Cooper starting

  678. 678 Frencheaglesfan said at 6:52 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    What we need is nfl 2k16

  679. 679 oreofestar said at 7:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    YES!

  680. 680 Greg Richards said at 6:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sounds like Dolphins are trading Mike Wallace to the Vikings.

    Armando Salguero
    ‏@ArmandoSalguero

    9m9 minutes ago

    Mike Wallace has been on the phone with Minnesota Vikings the last hour. Trade likely.

  681. 681 Media Mike said at 6:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Quarter-brain Patterson must be leaving.

  682. 682 NinjaP said at 6:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Probably part of what the dolphins get back. Adding stills and patterson to landry. Rebuilt their wide receivers corps in less than a year.

  683. 683 Media Mike said at 6:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Except Patterson sucks due to being too feeble-minded to learn a playbook. Zimmer hates him.

  684. 684 NinjaP said at 6:57 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Well having to learn our offense is probably easier.

  685. 685 Media Mike said at 6:59 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t think Patterson can learn anything more complicated than how to spark one.

  686. 686 HawaiianEagle said at 7:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I don’t know…hookahs can be confusing

  687. 687 Media Mike said at 7:01 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    If you want to say he’s too dumb to even to that, I won’t argue.

  688. 688 BreakinAnklez said at 8:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Lol. Vikes only gonna run verticals routes now

  689. 689 GEAGLE said at 6:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Did we get anyone today?

  690. 690 Media Mike said at 6:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Nope.

  691. 691 GEAGLE said at 6:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Shame Crabtree is slow and mediocre. Can’t get any separation. Shame Cecil is a slot WR

  692. 692 Media Mike said at 6:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Crabtree is sorry, to be accurate.

  693. 693 GEAGLE said at 6:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Basically

  694. 694 Balls to the walls Chip said at 7:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Feeling lucky our city got Hinkie and Kelly running two of my favorite sports teams. Hoping for a championship soon!

  695. 695 Media Mike said at 7:02 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Just hope the city keeps the day the team wins + 2 days formula for the parade. Being able to plan personal days from work way ahead of time is important.

  696. 696 Greg Richards said at 7:04 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Jason La Canfora
    ‏@JasonLaCanfora

    1m1 minute ago

    Spoke to Cordarelle Patterson’s agent who has been in close contact w/MIN.
    Rumors of Patterson being shopped are patently false Branion said

    So that means he’s geting shipped elsewhere any second now….

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  697. 697 A_T_G said at 8:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sounds to me like they didn’t find any takers.

  698. 698 MagsDaffyDilly said at 12:02 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    It was rumored that he couldn’t learn the offense at Minnesota. Imagine how that would go over here, where everybody is supposed to learn at least something about every position.

  699. 699 Mac said at 12:22 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    Great player but i don’t like how stiff he looks when running.

  700. 700 Greg Richards said at 7:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter
    ‏@AdamSchefter

    57s57 seconds ago

    Vikings traded 5th-round pick to Miami for WR Mike Wallace and 7th-round pick, per league source.

  701. 701 GermanEagle said at 7:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Maybe the Eagles can trade Murray straight up for Dez Bryant?!

  702. 702 SteveH said at 7:25 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’m not sure we can afford to pay for Dez’s security detail to ensure he doesn’t do something dopey. I think it’s like 6 guys.

  703. 703 GermanEagle said at 7:27 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Lol, this video thing was probably the biggest non story I can remember as of late!

  704. 704 SteveH said at 7:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    The video thing was a nonstory, the other stuff was not. And it is true that Jerruh hired a security detail to stick with Dez to make sure he didn’t do stupid shit.

  705. 705 oreofestar said at 7:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I legit wouldn’t do it

  706. 706 ICDogg said at 8:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    DeMarco Murray's five-year deal has a base value of $40M with $2M in escalators and $18M fully guaranteed at signing http://t.co/VDIJh4qlvt— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 14, 2015

  707. 707 Donald Kalinowski said at 8:18 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ” Another $3 million is guaranteed for injury only at signing; it becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2017 league year.”

    I don’t get this part.

  708. 708 ACViking said at 10:41 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It means, if Murray is not on the roster on day three of the league year in 2017, he does not get the money.

  709. 709 Donald Kalinowski said at 8:20 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Anyway, I still think we overpaid.

  710. 710 BreakinAnklez said at 8:41 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I just posted his cap numbers above…not that bad.

  711. 711 Alistair Middlemiss said at 8:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I want Keenan Lewis so badly, would be a way to bring in a quality second CB at a very reasonable $$ sign that would take our defence from being decent to being great. Would also ‘solve’ the safety issue as with 2 good CB’s you can ‘hide’ one Safety more (see New England hiding Chung).

  712. 712 Media Mike said at 8:23 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I hear you on the 2nd good CB, but you can’t hide a human tampon at safety. Nate Allen backpedaling away from Boldin this year is proof.

  713. 713 Donald Kalinowski said at 8:38 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    If I was New Orleans, I wouldn’t take anything less than a 2nd rounder for Lewis. And this is why I don’t like the Murray signing. It took us out of play from adding any more salary.

  714. 714 BreakinAnklez said at 8:46 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    It’s a $5M cap hit this year….Bradford is taking up $13M

  715. 715 KAJomo said at 9:09 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think we will extend Bradford in order to lower the cap hit this year. Trading Mathis will open up more cap space

  716. 716 Alistair Middlemiss said at 8:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Boykin+Mathis+3rd think it could get it done? (i know this is pure fantasy at this point)

  717. 717 Greg Richards said at 9:12 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think that is overrating Lewis’s trade value. Boykin + Mathis is worth more combined than Lewis by himself.

  718. 718 anon said at 9:15 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    gotta give the chip kelly discount

  719. 719 GermanEagle said at 9:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I think you’re overrating ‘I’m just a nickel’ and ‘Katy Perry’s secret lover’ trade value.

  720. 720 GEAGLE said at 10:11 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    really really doubt we will see any more CBs added, unless they add one to the draft and Im a fan of the kid so id happily take being wrong. but i dont see it at all… saints are having a fire sale and there are plenty guys more realistic for us then Keenen…CB coverage should be a real strength for us this year, not going to add any more veterans especially sincve we still have to draft one because we need a young outside CB on a cheap rookie contract being groomed on our bench

  721. 721 anon said at 10:43 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    you gotta think they did some diligence before picking up thurmond and paying so much for maxwell — they might want too much for lewis.

  722. 722 GEAGLE said at 10:48 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    thrilled with our corners right now… think people wll be surprised at how much tighter our coverage will be next year…. alot of work to do on the offense and we need a safety and maybe a 4th edge rusher….The CB position is done

  723. 723 BreakinAnklez said at 8:40 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/576534881943076866

  724. 724 ICDogg said at 8:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Some players who played for both Cowboys and Eagles

    T.O.
    Herschel Walker
    Rodney Peete
    Luis Zendejas
    Chris Boniol

  725. 725 Avery Greene said at 9:05 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Zendejas – bounty bowl! Oh Buddy Ryan.

  726. 726 Bert's Bells said at 9:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Randall Cunningham

  727. 727 ICDogg said at 9:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Mike Ditka
    Harold Carmichael

  728. 728 anon said at 9:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    B. Fletcher

  729. 729 ICDogg said at 9:13 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    How Chip Kelly killed the Eagles and left them for dead. My column: http://t.co/QHSqU8vkxG— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) March 13, 2015

  730. 730 ICDogg said at 9:17 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sixers are on a 40-9 run

  731. 731 NinjaP said at 9:40 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Need to stop winning these pointless games.

  732. 732 GEAGLE said at 10:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ran into vinny at the game, says other then losing some good friends most of our players are very excited by what chip has done this offseason.. seemed to genuinly view this all as a significant upgrad…
    great game by the way. gritty performance

  733. 733 GEAGLE said at 10:07 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    ran into vinny at the game, says other then losing some good friends most of our players are very excited by what chip has done this offseason.. seemed to genuinly view this all as a significant upgrad…
    great game by the way. gritty performance

  734. 734 Greg Richards said at 9:23 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    @USC_Athletics WR Nelson Agholor told @SeniorBowlPhil & me on @SiriusXMNFL that he’s traveling Sunday for pre-draft visit with @Eagles

  735. 735 Insomniac said at 9:33 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Interesting. Agholor is a good WR but this says a bit about what Chip wants in WRs.

  736. 736 anon said at 9:34 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    what’s that? size?

  737. 737 Insomniac said at 9:36 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Agholor isn’t big. He plays bigger than his size though.

  738. 738 NinjaP said at 9:40 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Likes guys with suspect hands.

  739. 739 D3FB said at 10:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Would be a like for like replacement for Maclin

  740. 740 anon said at 10:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    has this week made it easier for you to pick scout evals?

  741. 741 D3FB said at 12:01 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    Not really. I have most of the guys I think will be targets at 20 written up. Not enough tape of Jones to do a full write up. The OL group really doesn’t have much of a “middle class” tier of guys. I don’t think ILB will be in play (Kendricks, Kiko, Goode, Meco, Jones, Acho) until real late day 3 or UDFA. The S class is major shit. There’s no real consensus on who even 2,3,4,5 guys off the board at that position will be. I don’t think we go DL or RB until late day 3 or UDFA. WR I’ll likely do more of a “board” with guys I like by round. Probably a similar deal with CB. May do a post with the nice group of day 3 FCS OLB guys.

    Guys I may do a full write up on:
    Geathers
    B. Perriman (not enough tape)
    B. Jones (not enough tape)
    Fisher
    Strong

  742. 742 Insomniac said at 9:28 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    LOl. I saw Casserly’s mock. Browns take MM at 6. Damn somehow I feel better about our QB situation somehow.

  743. 743 Greg Richards said at 9:41 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Ian Rapoport
    ‏@RapSheet

    23s24 seconds ago

    WR Kenny Britt is staying with the #Rams, source said. It’s a 2-year deal worth up to almost $14M. He got 4.3M guaranteed. Wow.

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  744. 744 anon said at 9:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    still no lineman replacements

  745. 745 Greg Richards said at 9:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Think I read they had Justin Blalock in for a visit. And they may re-sign RT Joseph Barksdale.

  746. 746 Greg Richards said at 9:42 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    With Buffalo signing Percy Harvin, I wonder if WR Robert Woods is available. You could say he’d be the #3 WR, but they like Chris Hogan in the slot. Chip seems to like USC wide receivers.

  747. 747 GermanEagle said at 9:49 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    So how long until we find out that G Wisniewski will be in for a visit…?

  748. 748 Greg Richards said at 9:50 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’ve been hoping for that, but no indication so far that we’re interested.

  749. 749 GermanEagle said at 10:00 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Starting C for the Raiders, could be plugged in at RG and if anything happens to Kelce we wouldn’t miss a beat with him. And he’s only turning 26 next week!

    Sign him and with Tobin at LG, the Eagles won’t have to go OL with their 1st round pick..

  750. 750 GermanEagle said at 10:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    And he’s white!

  751. 751 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:06 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Sign Wisniewski
    Trade Mathis for Keenan Lewis
    Draft Landon Collins,Jake Fisher, and Breshad Perriman

    BOOM

  752. 752 GEAGLE said at 10:14 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Bruce Arians called Sam Bradford a star in the making. sounded like he really loved him, saying he might be the best QB prospect he ever evaluated….. and that dude cant wait to take a shot at chip

  753. 753 RobNE said at 10:22 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    First compliment he has ever given chip

  754. 754 Joe Minx said at 10:29 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Arians has been around a few really good QBs. I’d take him at his word on this.

  755. 755 GEAGLE said at 10:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    like everyone else, I soooo didnt even see Bradford as an option… The more I think about it, the more the days pass I like the idea more and more… I was a big big believer of Nick in this offense with chip. But if you were to tell me o start looking for a QB upgrade for Nick, the things i would need to see in a kid to make me want to lose Nick are:
    ..(keep in mind I hate the super athletic mobile QBs, think they really talented runners are cursed with talent that kept them from developing as pocket passers to the fullest of their capabilities) but i would want a QB with:
    1) Better athleticism/speed then Nick, but not a running super athlete QB. Bradford is atleast at the sanchez level of speed and thats more then enough to gain 10 yards if they dont defende you
    ..
    2) Bigger arm, better arm talent then Nick
    ..
    3) smart kid who will get the ball out quick and make the right decisions..
    ..
    4) accuracy
    ..
    5) experience in either tempo or shotgun spread attack
    ..
    whether you like Bradford or not, cant deny that those attributes practically describe Sam Bradford…

    He brings the spread shotgun experience we would get with Mariota, but a much more advanced NFL passer then Mariota. I swear i would rather have Bradford then MM.
    ..
    the only thing not to like is his Acl injuries, but how the hell am i supposed to be thrilled about Kiko, sick that we didnt give Maclin 11mil,and then hate Sam Bradford because he had the same exact two injuries s kiko and Maclin?
    ..
    then I saw some crazy stat that really made me feel good about this trade…in like the past year or 2 years(forgot which it was), 61 players have suffered ACL injuries… injuries are such a majpr part of the game, they happen to almost everyone sooner or later. Hopefully Bradford got his injury bad luck out of the way and he goes on and has a healthy career for us,.,. chip will build a quality OL for him, playing off a stacked run game and his boy DeMarco and will sorround him with more pass weapons that he ever had. Heck just throwing to Ertz and Sproles is an upgrade for him.. chips going to make playing QB much easier then fisher did

    This is a move that can really pay off in a huge way for us, its just scary because it comes with injury bust potetial… but your star player is at risk to get injured every time he takes the field,,,

  756. 756 laeagle said at 11:10 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    I’d be interested in where you found that report on ACLs. Mainly because I’d want to know the success rate of recovery. My guess is it would be higher now than in the past. But it would be reassuring to know.

  757. 757 OregonDucker said at 11:39 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Players who have played WITHOUT an ACL

    http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/10/athletes-without-acls/mickey-mantle

  758. 758 MagsDaffyDilly said at 11:56 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Very enlightening.

  759. 759 GEAGLE said at 10:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    like everyone else, I soooo didnt even see Bradford as an option… The more I think about it, the more the days pass I like the idea more and more… I was a big big believer of Nick in this offense with chip. But if you were to tell me o start looking for a QB upgrade for Nick, the things i would need to see in a kid to make me want to lose Nick are:
    ..(keep in mind I hate the super athletic mobile QBs, think they really talented runners are cursed with talent that kept them from developing as pocket passers to the fullest of their capabilities) but i would want a QB with:
    1) Better athleticism/speed then Nick, but not a running super athlete QB. Bradford is atleast at the sanchez level of speed and thats more then enough to gain 10 yards if they dont defende you
    ..
    2) Bigger arm, better arm talent then Nick
    ..
    3) smart kid who will get the ball out quick and make the right decisions..
    ..
    4) accuracy
    ..
    5) experience in either tempo or shotgun spread attack
    ..
    whether you like Bradford or not, cant deny that those attributes practically describe Sam Bradford…

    He brings the spread shotgun experience we would get with Mariota, but a much more advanced NFL passer then Mariota. I swear i would rather have Bradford then MM.
    ..
    the only thing not to like is his Acl injuries, but how the hell am i supposed to be thrilled about Kiko, sick that we didnt give Maclin 11mil,and then hate Sam Bradford because he had the same exact two injuries s kiko and Maclin?
    ..
    then I saw some crazy stat that really made me feel good about this trade…in like the past year or 2 years(forgot which it was), 61 players have suffered ACL injuries… injuries are such a majpr part of the game, they happen to almost everyone sooner or later. Hopefully Bradford got his injury bad luck out of the way and he goes on and has a healthy career for us,.,. chip will build a quality OL for him, playing off a stacked run game and his boy DeMarco and will sorround him with more pass weapons that he ever had. Heck just throwing to Ertz and Sproles is an upgrade for him.. chips going to make playing QB much easier then fisher did

    This is a move that can really pay off in a huge way for us, its just scary because it comes with injury bust potetial… but your star player is at risk to get injured every time he takes the field,,,

  760. 760 ICDogg said at 10:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    May have been the team that was offering the 1st rounder

  761. 761 anon said at 10:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    pretty used to dealing w/ QBs w/ acl issues

  762. 762 MagsDaffyDilly said at 11:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Some suggest Cleveland, who just can’t seem to get their quarterback situation right.

  763. 763 oreofestar said at 1:16 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    Honestly at this point if they ever want aQB they need to trade a ton to get one because they can’t develop them for their lives. See If you offer Carolina 12 and 19 for Newton lol

  764. 764 ICDogg said at 10:44 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    May have been the team that was offering the 1st rounder

  765. 765 ICDogg said at 10:47 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Watch out for fake Shefter account reporting deal between #Seahawks and C Stefen Wisniewski

  766. 766 GEAGLE said at 10:53 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    forgot they need a center….i would assume our Guards come in the draft. heck do we even have any money?,,, need to get younger and more athletic on the OL, doesnt hurt to pay two Guards on a rookie deal since we paid JP and Kelce and Lanes extension isnt too far away

  767. 767 anon said at 10:55 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    we’re baiscally out $12m before murray’s contract which i assume will be about $5m then draft picks.

  768. 768 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:08 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Remember when the Rams and Sam Bradford ran the up tempo, no-huddle against NYG a few years ago and 2 Giants players faked injuries just to slow down them down?

  769. 769 doublgee said at 11:45 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    He’s got some wheels!
    http://youtu.be/H84nK2lSw7E

  770. 770 HawaiianEagle said at 11:51 PM on March 13th, 2015:

    Harper runs (ran?) 4.58…

  771. 771 anon said at 12:07 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    psh he was like 800yrs old in that game

  772. 772 ICDogg said at 12:04 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/13/joe-banner-chip-kelly-philadelphia-eagles-overhaul/

    Joe Banner comments on the Eagles’ moves

  773. 773 A_T_G said at 1:14 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    So, is he honestly impressed, or is this a enemy of my enemy is a friend thing?

  774. 774 ICDogg said at 2:16 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    I think he admires Chip’s ballsiness.

  775. 775 ICDogg said at 12:08 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    The cowboys better not think they are done at RB. Questionable move today— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) March 13, 2015

  776. 776 BlindChow said at 12:19 AM on March 14th, 2015:

    How does McFadden’s injury history compare to Mathews’ and Murray’s?

  777. 777 ICDogg said at 12:32 AM on March 14th, 2015:

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