Some Favorite Prospects
Posted: April 21st, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 288 Comments »The draft is less than 10 days away. Excited yet?
I know some of you are already tired of the talk, but I love it. For this week’s PE.com column, I wrote about some of my favorite offensive prospects.
Some are Eagles targets, some aren’t.
There are no RBs or QBs. There just isn’t a QB that I’m in love with. Bryce Petty is the guy I’m most intrigued by for the Eagles, but he has his issues. As for RBs…I’ll be honest. I just haven’t studied them enough to say who I love. David Johnson is a guy I enjoy quite a bit and Ameer Abdullah is a player I think highly of, but there isn’t any one player that I just loved watching play after play.
I’ll be writing about my favorite defensive prospects this week.
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Washington S/LB Shaq Thompson is visiting with the #Eagles today, per a source. Versatile player that could be intriguing at No. 20.
— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) April 20, 2015
I can’t say Shaq Thompson is one of my favorite guys, but he intrigues the heck out of me.
Thompson played LB, RB and even some DB for Washington this year. He is a good athlete and an instinctive playmaker. Mike Mayock lists him as a Safety. Thompson wants to be a LB. I’d love to know how Chip Kelly sees him.
He is 6-0, 228. That’s the same size as Landon Collins, the star SS from ‘Bama. They have similar builds, but different games. Collins is a downhill thumper. He loves to punish runners and receivers. Thompson is an athlete. He can hit and be physical, but is more agile, which should make him more effective in coverage.
Maybe Chip Kelly thinks Thompson could be an ILB if he adds 15 or so pounds. He has a slightly bigger frame and more length than Mychal Kendricks, but not by much.
I would really love to find out what the Eagles think. Thompson isn’t a great fit in their system at Safety, but also isn’t an ideal ILB for them. He will likely go in the Top 40 picks so this is a player you have to want to get on the field. He’s not a hybrid player to mix in to specialty packages.
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2. Don't understand the Damarious Randall love. Taking him in the first (or even the second) seems like way too big of a risk for me.
— Sheil Kapadia (@SheilKapadia) April 21, 2015
Totally agree.
Randall is overrated to me. Talented player, but has holes in his game. And the guy has tiny hands. Is Chip Kelly really going to covet that guy?
If the Eagles liked him at CB, I’d be more comfortable. I have questions about him as a Safety.
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The schedule will be announced tonight. I hope we don’t have to play at Ohio State again. It is impossible to win there.
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So, at Atlanta on MNF Week 1, at Detroit on Thanksgiving, versus Washington Week 16, and Giants at home in Week 17.
leak
TommY
Please tell me more about this Eddy Lacy guy, who’s atop of scoutnotebook’s RB’s rankings. Think I’ve heard of him before. 😉
Son of a bitch.
I completely forgot about that website.
A S/LB/DB? Sounds like another player that was a “tweener”: Roy Williams.
Antwan Goodley is a beast. I’ve been saying he’s Huff on steroids.
I agree on Randall. I can see some of his coverage ability but I see him make too many mental errors. The question is: if he was so good at coverage, why didnt he stay at cb?
i have no idea why eagles fans even talk about him in the first two rounds, but I guess its better then hearing about Landon Collins
Slightly off topic but been wondering a while. We heard about several people Chip wanted to take early but Howie talked him into waiting and they were there. I would love to know if the opposite happened where he said someone would slide and didn’t. Could Howie have talked Chip out of moving up for Cooks? Was he poised to pull the trigger on Alonso in the second a couple years ago. Maybe this was where Howie lost his job where he evaluated someone as good but got cute with value. Who knows what could have been. Ten days and I am sure we will get some head scratcher moves, but Chip will get what he wants and we get to see how that plays out.
Chip said after the draft that teams were asking too much to move up and he’s been pretty consistent with his statements saying he prefers more picks than giving up a lot to move up.
Schedule
W1 – at Atlanta MNF 7:10 ET ESPN
W2 – Dallas 4:25 ET FOX
W3 – at NYJ 1:00 ET FOX
W4 – at WAS 1:00 ET FOX
W5 – NO 1:00 ET FOX
W6 – NYG 8:30 PM MNF ESPN
W7 – at CAR 8:30 PM SNF NBC
W8 – BYE
W9 – at DAL 8:30 PM SNF NBC
W10 – MIA 1:00 PM CBS
W11 – TB 1:00 PM FOX
W12 – at DET Thanksgiving 12:30 ET FOX
W13 – at NE 4:25 PM FOX
W14 – BUF 1:00 PM CBS
W15 – ARZ 1:00 PM FOX
W16 – WAS 8:25 PM Sat Night Football NFL Network
W17 – at NYG 1:00 PM ET FOX
We get extra time for the pats. Either that is great or won’t matter and is a waste of the extra time.
15-1 baby!
Who’s the loss? ?
Pats would be tough away.
Yea it was my guess. I think by then though we will know just how good we are. though we can beat them in the super bowl rematch (rematch)!!
You don’t think Tebow can beat the Giants while the starters rest?
How can Tebow play if the starters are resting?
Unless I missed one, we don’t play any teams coming off a bye week.
Week 11 Winston v Mariota.
Thanks for posting that here. Stupid EMB crashed.
What this schedule shows me: it will get really tough to get tickets for the Eagles home opener….
week 8 bye is pretty awesome. Everything after week 6 is good money
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are you kidding me? we play on Thanksgiving AGAIN? Thats awesome!!!
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love arizona in december, give them a loss and screw with their playoff hopes…
what’s Chips record going into the bye-week ?? ..and coming out ??
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(joke.. anyone get it?)
Lot of prime time games for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year.
Have the Eagles ever played on consecutive Thanksgivings? I think that is a first.
Detriot twice in a row on thanksgiving.
This is the best thing to happen:
Infrequent Fliers: After travelling 17,530 miles to and from away games during the 2014 regular season, the Eagles will have a much shorter distance to travel in 2015, accumulating just 6,820 miles to opponents’ stadiums, per travelmath.com. Philadelphia will only leave the Eastern Time Zone once during the 2015 season with a trip to Dallas (Week 9).
Wow, that is fantastic. We have to be near the bottom of the list.
Yes. Just above the team called ‘bye’.
if randy gregory slips because of the maryjane…and somehow gets to 20 would the iggles pull the trigger??
Speaking of runningbacks, is there a reason why chip hasn’t drafted one? Has it been cause it’s not a need or have they just not liked any? It’ll be interesting to see who he takes if he does draft one, which probably won’t happen, and I hope he doesn’t take one.
I think the biggest reason is because every draft so far he already has a bunch of very good if not great backs. Draft one and when would he play much?
Warning: Sorry for the long post. I wrote this as I was looking at the schedule…
2015 Schedule Thoughts:
As many people point out every year when the schedule comes out, we already knew all the opponents and the Home/Away schedule way before today, so going game by game analyzing if we think that game is a W or L based on opponent is an exercise we could have done awhile ago. To me, what I find interesting about the schedule is where the schedule itself gives the team an advantage or disadvantage relative to the team we are playing. So with that in mind:
Week 1 (Monday night @ Atl) – It’s rough having to wait the extra day for the season to start for the Eagles just from an anticipation stand point, but obviously neither team benefits.
Week 2 (Sunday 4 PM vs. Dal) – Dallas is coming off a Sunday night game, but I never like having a shortened week going up against a division rival. At least we are home for this game.
Week 3 (Sunday 1 PM at NYJ) – Jets are coming off a Monday night, so we have the advantage here on the extra day. Also, it’s nice to have an away game that is so close. Not only will the travel not be an issue for the Eagles, but you can easily imagine a lot of Eagles fans at this game (not that they are in any short supply at any game)
Week 4 (Sunday 1 PM at Was) – Ugh. Another division rival coming off advantageous scheduling. The Redskins play Thursday night in Week 3, so they will have an extra 3 days of rest. On top of that, while this isn’t a far away game, we it is still an away game.
Week 5 (Sunday 1 PM vs. NO) – Both the Eagles and the Saints play Sunday the week before. The Saints play the Sunday night game, but they are at home, so no real scheduling advantage either way.
Week 6 (Monday night vs NYG) – Giants are coming of a Sunday night game, but both teams get the extra day, so neither team gains an advantage here.
Week 7 (Sunday night at Car) – Coming off the Monday night game, we have one less day of rest and we are the away team. Panthers gain the advantage.
Week 8 (Bye) – Personally, I’m a fan of having the bye week right around mid-season. I may have preferred it a few games later into the season, but as long as it isn’t too early in the year, we can regather at midseason and get ready for the rest of the season and hopefully the playoffs.
Week 9 (Sunday Night at Dallas) – Eagles really benefit from their bye week going up against Dallas the following week. First off, we get the full extra week of rest and time to game plan against a division rival, but on top of that, we get the extra week of rest a week before our furthest away game. Meanwhile, Dallas is coming off what likely will be a tough game against Seattle.
Week 10 (Sunday 1 vs Mia) – Both teams coming off Sunday games, so no advantage either way.
Week 11 (Sunday 1 vs TB) – Both teams coming off Sunday games. Eagles on a two game home stand but the Bucs are off a home game before this, so no advantage really.
Week 12 (Thursday 12:30 at Detroit) – Short week for both teams, but we are the away team. We are coming off a two game home stand, bu Thursday games are rough regardless. I have a feeling though the Philadelphia media, who will have to go to Detroit on Thanksgiving, is going to dislike this game more than anyone else.
Week 13 (Sunday 4:25 at NE) – We have the extra 3 days while NE is coming off a Sunday night game @ Denver. Nice advantage for the Eagles.
Week 14 (Sunday 1 vs Bills) – Neither team has an advantage.
Week 15 (Sunday 1 vs Ari) – Arizona is coming off a Thursday night game, so they get an extra 3 days rest.
Week 16 (Saturday 8:25 vs Was) – Shortened week for both teams. This would be the third week of a three game home stand for the Eagles.
Week 17 (Sunday 1 at NYG) – Ending the season against the Giants. We get an extra day to rest before the last game of the season going against a division rival. Nice way for the Eagles to end the year.
Overall: Overall, we got a favorable schedule. We don’t play any team coming off a bye. That’s really nice to see, especially because i think a couple years ago we had something like 3 teams coming off byes. Our bye is also very nicely placed right before the Dallas game. The only major scheduling disadvantage is Arizona getting 3 extra days rest before playing us.
thanks, mate. Nice work!
Seahawks got screwed. They are playing 4 teams coming off their byes including 3 in a row at one point.
Wow. That’s rough scheduling. I know there are a ton of factors that go into designing the schedule, but I’d love to know if the schedule makers consider things like travel and coming off byes very seriously. Profits are probably the primary consideration beyond things like making sure the stadium is available (in cases were the stadium is shared or there are other sporting events/conflicts).
Everything is factored in. I’d guess that Seattle has had a favorable schedule the past couple of years so it was time for them to suffer.
They do, but cant in a single year, but over the course of several years it balances out.
oh that is too bad. I feel awful for them.
Any records anywhere to indicate W vs. L when there’s that 1 extra day for a team?
Polk hasnt signed his Tender yet…. hopefully he isnt traded., I dont want to lose him over that Nancy boy “Mr softee” Ryan Mathews…
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please keep Polk in Philly….
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if chip waste a draft pick on a RB, he is sick in the head…
lol Polk is 25 years old with 57 career carries and has a history of injuries.
injury crap is overblown… he misses more time in the offseason with injuries then in games./… Ryan Mathews is a pussy
If we lose Polk, its because Polk refuses to sign his tender and for me that screams cry baby.
lol crybaby… as in, him playing the good soldier for years only to find himself as the 4th RB, behind a soft, nancy boy like Ryan Mathews? take Polk over Ryan all day every day… Ryan fumbles far too much for a veteran back, not to mention he gets hurt every single year, but people want to call Polk always injured? laughable..
How has he been the good soldier? He went undrafted and so far has 57 career carries, on what basis is he allowed to cry about his contract or having to beat out compitition?
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Polk has been hurt too much to make fun of someone else being soft.
For the Draft, my wish list is pretty simple:
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If by some miracle you can get Bud Dupree, take him and run… If not get Shaquille Riddick to develop in the late rounds…raw edge rusher…
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Get me Jesse James to groom to eventually replace Celek
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a G/T, and a G/C preferably the Ducks Jake Fisher and Grasu, but im open to plenty other lineman…
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a Outside WR or two
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and spend the rest of our picks on defensive Backs
Shaq did play safety previous to switching to OLB primarily. I wonder if, had he stayed there, if he wouldn’t be the consensus top safety in the draft.
He was the top rated safety coming out of high school and looks darn good covering.
FWIW his player comp is Deone Bucannon.
Hmmmm I would think Shaq can cover better but isn’t quite as physical.
Yeah, the details about him pretty much say he’s more likely to absorb contact than initiate it.
I think he is a he’ll of a player. Just not as physical a BBuchannon. He’s not first rounder but 2nd? Heck y3h!
I don’t think he has Buchannons range either.
Can you give me your definition of range because I struggle with the concept. Is a synonym, sideline to sideline or time to an area? Give me an example of a prospect this year with good range, please.
How much ground a safety can cover when playing centerfield. It’s a combination of athleticism and reaction time.
Think Earl Thomas. It’s his ability to be an eraser.
The play at 1:28 is an example of range, Hackett is inside the hash when Trickett turns his hips to make the throw, yes the ball hangs up in the air, but Hackett also has to motor down to get it. He would have gotten there anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_lQpIoUQPg
Ok that’s what I thought. I just need to watch more tape and develop my eye for it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDKfoSYW4AEinuj.jpg
Pages 58-56? Is that the Chinese edition…
That’s the way they do it… sports page starts on the back
Ibraheim Campbell’s player comp on Optimum Scouting is Malcolm Jenkins
Not sure I would want my player comp to be Aaron Hernandez (that’s Rory Anderson, SC)
i would be disapointed if we drafted a TE other then Jesse james..
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id really love to steal Travis Kelce from andy reid in free agency…
Two TE sets, Ertz and Kelce the best duo in the league. Book it.
Read a McLane piece recently about how Zach Ertz was working on his blocking this offseason, spent a couple of weeks being mentored by retired O-line coach Hudson Houck.
two more season and he could become a free agent. Hopefully Alex smith is horrible and Travis doesnt sign an extension
Jacoby Glenn, UCF player comp = Bradley Fletcher
Here is Daniel Jeremiah’s updated Top 50: http://www.nfl.com/top50
10 WRs
The schedule is about as favorable as you can ask for without getting the AFC South again
Love and hate this schedule. Love it because it appears to be a pretty damn easy schedule. I say appears because this is the NFL, and teams like the Saints and Falcons can always bounce back. I hate it because I know when we get to the post season the hatters will say it’s due to our easy schedule and we really don’t deserve it. The other reason I hate it is because there is something to be said about going up against good teams. It builds character, heart, and doesn’t give you an over inflated opinion of yourself. It helps keep you hard. Can’t wait for this draft.
The Pats have not suffered from their easy schedules. Lets all agree that our 3rd SB season we will play all tough teams. For the first, I will take any and all breaks.
The Pats aren’t just any team. I’m not saying we are definitely going to suffer. I’ll definitely take this easy schedule over a hard one. However from a competitors standpoint it makes you well prepared for better teams if you play better teams more often. Such as when you enter the playoffs. You may be so used to one type of resistance, then when you hit a harder better type it can mess with you. Tommy has alluded to this a few times in the past as well.
He has and I’ve taken the opposite stance then too. There is a fine line between wanting harder competition and missing the playoffs at 10-6. I just am not on the bandwagon of wishing for a harder schedule. I don’t mean to repeat the argument every time. I think we both want good competition, but to win the SB. The rest is such a fine line (who knows who will be good this year) and we don’t control any of it anyway.
I know the Pats are an oddball and not a team to try to emulate. But I’ve seen them up close just hang around, hang around, and bam, they get a bye. And you think, what, they weren’t that good this year. Then their first game is a blowout, like they get to play Tebow. Then they have ONE game to win to make the SB. I want me some of that.
I didn’t think we were arguing. I would prefer an easier schedule as well. I am happy with this schedule. I am just saying if you are constantly going up against lousy competition then it’s alot easier to get complacent. and have the good competition smack you in the face. Playing good teams prepares you for good teams. It makes you stronger. I like this schedule ALOT, I am just saying one of the negatives about it. As an athlete myself I know that at times when you are just cruising a good team or a few in a row (playoffs) can really take you by surprise. It’s on Chip to keep the edge instilled in the players, good thing we have high character guys. This schedule seems as though we should have a relatively easy time getting to the playoffs compared to other seasons. Of course depending on injuries and other factors. However this is not about getting to the playoffs, it’s about winning a SB. As someone that has played many sports including football the large majority of my life you cannot tell me that constantly playing weaker teams doesn’t have some kind of effect on you. I completely agree with you about this is the NFL, and you never truly know what teams may be good or not. I really think ATL and NO may bounce back to be solid teams once again. Will ARZ move forward or backwards or just stay the same. Either way I just can’t wait for the season. Go Birds!!
Jeremiah’s got the Eagles taking Perriman in round 1 and Q. Rollins in round 2.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000486692/article/tworound-mock-draft-jameis-winston-cedric-ogbuehi-to-bucs
Love Q.Roll at 52, would be a great pick. Less sold on Perriman, seems more an athlete than a WR and those guys bust.
I like Perriman but not sure I like him enough to take him that early.
im not even convinced he lasts til 20…
I can see why, but I hope the Eagles keep away from mr stone hands.
lol yeah yeah every year a top WR has “stone hands”
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thats what you said about Donte Moncreif, and the colts love him…
No, I never said Moncreif had stone hands, I called him body catcher (and he is still is that). I wouldnt have minded Moncrief and I like his potential over Jordan Matthews.
I wouldn’t mind Kenny Bell.
Kenny Bell has super nice hands and great body control
If you wanted a guy like Perriman, I would get Coates in the second. I think he played against better competition anyway.
i like Rollins, but I would take Byron Jones at CB and Rowe at safety before Rollins…
I like Rollin’s upside more, think he can be an elite playmaker at FS if he achieves his potential, I think Rowe can be a solid safety long term (that is still probably top 10 in the NFL tho >_<).
i wont complain about ending up with either…
Im not a fan of Perriman at all
WTF are we doing with another ILB? Perriman in round 1? yuck
WR Breshad Perriman.
geez brain fart…. Love Breshad!!!
the receiver (the LB is Perryman)
from MMQB:
• Philadelphia couldn’t home in Week 1, 3 or 4. Phillies conflicts in Weeks 1 and 4, and a letter from Philadelphia Archbishop Charles J. Chaput to commissioner Roger Goodell (the archbishop spelled it “Rodger”) last July 8 respectfully requested the NFL not play in Philadelphia on the Sunday of Week 3, the day Pope Frances is schedule to hold a mass for an estimated 2 million people on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway outside the Philadelphia Art Museum. In October, Katz wrote the archbishop to say the Eagles would be out of town that weekend … 93 miles up the New Jersey Turnpike to play the Jets on that afternoon, Sept. 27.
“Yes,” Katz said, finally able to relax Tuesday evening in his scheduling den. “The Pope did influence the NFL schedule. My name may be Katz, but I wasn’t taking any chances.”
I understand not scheduling the Eagles when the Pope is scheduled to visit but football and the Eagles shouldn’t let baseball and the Phillies dictate their schedule. Some years, yes, but if they accomodate one year then they need to tell the Phillies/MLB that the Eagles are going to be home Week 1 whatever season and the other side needs to schedule accordingly.
They do that in almost any city and if the Phillies keep stinking and fans stay away, the NFL no longer will accomodate them.
It’s not about the Phillies. It’s about the traffic. Having one event screws up everyone’s day trying to get into/out of the city. Holding two is just masochistic.
The Eagles requested the weekend of Dec. 13 on the road, because the Army-Navy game is at Lincoln Financial Field on Dec. 12. The league tried but couldn’t accommodate Philadelphia, and so a three-game homestand was the result …
So, make the Phillies and MLB change their schedule. There is no reason a league that gets bigger ratings for TEN-JAX than for any baseball game outside of the World Series should be basing their schedule on working around the baseball schedule.
Re Eagles schedule:
I love the fact that 4 of 5 late prime time games are away, while the Saturday night game against the Redskins is in Philly. Why?! Because I won’t have to take the next day off, when driving back from Philadelphia to Queens.
Basically it gives me the chance to attend all 8 home games at the Linc. Plus the two away games in NY. Thank you, NFL!
I just checked, and the last time the Eagles played the Giants on a Monday Night was back in Week 8 of 2002 (a 17-3 win for Donovan and the boys at Veterans Stadium). Eagles-Giants Sunday night games have been frequent, but the Monday Night Games have been scarce to say the least.
titans vs. Bucs week 1? possible winston vs. Marriota matchup right out the gate?
Dallas disgraced themselves even by their putrid standards by signing Greg Hardy… If you are ok with bringing that scumbag in your locker room, then drafting a kid like Marcus Peters is no big deal. Dallas needs a CB, that scum owner is going to capitalize on all the talented character concerns that fall in the draft….
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Hype to play Dallas in week 2, but I wish that game was IN Dallas instead of Home…cant wait to see Demarco go into cowboy stadium and trample that defense
more worrisome is him absolutely shattering our glass QB’s. Dallas nicely wearing the villain costume to fit my personal narrative, I have no issues with.
fortunately he is suspended for the first game against us, but when we do play him, Im not conceding anything when our Tackles are hall of Fame Jason BOSS HOG Peters and the kid who will officially be recognized as the top RT in the NFL by the end of the season, BANE Johnson…lol love to see Lane use some of his mma training with Glazier this summer to whip Hardy’s ass.. . Both our tackles are Tough SOB’s who will take protecting Bradford very serious…
has Bradford been injured by big hits?
or was the acl stuff more like a freak thing that happens?
like when people tear the ACL celebrating a sack?
first one he was pulled down while running out of bounds, the second one a guy hit his knee while getting sacked, they weren’t non-contact tears for better or worse.
Economics of trading in the 1st round
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25157818/agents-take-the-hidden-economics-in-the-1st-round-of-the-nfl-draft
I’m thinking the Eagles trade back this draft again unless someone is there that they absolutely covet. They probably have a short list like last year and if no one is on the list they move back.
If the Eagles draft Marriota which i doubt happens, Im not sure its possible for them to go from #20 to #1 or #2 DURING the Draft… For the Eagles to pull this off, I suspect they would first have to trade up to the 8-13 range, and from there, trade up again during the draft Up to #1 or #2 or wherever you gotta get to in order to secure MM…… Im thinking for it to be possible, the Eagles would have to complete the 1st trade up to the #8-#13 range before the draft even starts… During the draft, typically a pick isnt traded til that pick is on the clock.. well if we trade up to #2, how can we trade up to #8-13 during the draft since the 2nd pick comes before the 10th pick and teams dont announce trades til the pick is on the clock… the 2nd pick is on the clock before the pick in the 8-13 range, so Im thinking in order to do the trade, we would have to make the 1st trade up into the 8-13 range before the draft, I dont see how you can do it once the draft starts……
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or we would have to do the deal straight up with the Titans, trading from 20 to 2, but I have a very hard time believing that…. For starters, moving up that many spots costs a ton as it is, but we will also have to pay for the fact that we are asking the Titans to fall all the way down to #20 which is a lot to ask of a team…. If the titans go from #2 to #12 thats still not horrible, they still will end up with a first round talent and get a ton of compensation in return, so how much do you have to pay to get the titans to pass on a top 5 player, to move all the way to #20 and get stuck having to draft someone with a 2nd round grade?
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I dont see how we can realistically get this trade done… Its so much to ask of a team to pass up on picking a top 5 player so that they can move all the way down to 20 and most likely get stuck paying a first round contract to a kid with a 2nd round grade… Thats a TON to ask of the Titans, and they will ask for a TON in return, I dont see how the hell we can possibly pull this off, when the titans will have other lucrative offers from teams that will pay them a ton of value, but not have to trade so far back that you miss out on a top 15 pick… how can we beat the Browns offer that starts with 2 first round picks, the 1st of which is high enough to still come away with a legit round 1 talent.
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THE ONLY WAY, I think we would have a realistic chance at getting Marriota is if the Titans wanted Bradford. The problem is, if they wanted Bradford they would require him to agree to a longterm deal before completing the draft and Bradford isnt going to agree to that, so IMO I think that this Marriotta talk is complete NONSENSE, and that chip and the Eagles have made their peace a while ago about not being able to end up with Marriota.. I dont HATE Marriota, I HATE the thought of giving up what it would take to pull it off. I think its a price that I wouldnt want to pay for Andrew Luck, let alone Marriota….
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“TFY Draft Insider Tony Pauline reports the Browns are the “front runners” to trade up and acquire Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.
This, of course, assumes the Bucs select Jameis Winston at No. 1 overall. According to Pauline, who is one of the kings of the pre-draft process, the Titans asked for the Browns Nos. 12 and 19 selections in the first round, as well as Cleveland’s second-round pick in order to move up to No. 2 overall. The Browns turned them down. That’s not an out-of-hand asking price from the Titans”.-roto
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I like Tony Pauline, but come on dude, you have no idea who the leader is right now for the Marriota sweepstakes.
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D Day in T minus 8 days…. .. will we see a Trade Happen a few days before the draft? Do people think its even possible to get the entire Marriota deal done during the draft, instead of having to do the first half of the trade up to 8-13 a day or two before the draft(maybe the morning of the draft)??
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Its going to cost too much. If we were the only team who really wanted to trade for this kid, maybe we could live with the price, but we are going to have to outbid some bad teams with some serious trade value like the Browns and their 2 first round pick.. Titans will have other extremely lucrative offers and they wont have to trade all the way down to #20.. I dont see how we could possibly pull it off
you have no idea what the other teams will do. How can you say it will cost too much because there will be other extremely lucrative offers.
The other big consideration in trading up prior to the draft to the second position is that there’s no guarantee that TB selects Winston at one.
If the cost was Cox, or Kendricks, packaged with high picks, whom else is there worth taking at two at that price?
The way it would likely work is that teams will have placeholder agreements in place prior to the selection – TN will have offers from CLE, WAS, SL, PHI, etc. should MM be available at 2 and they will seek to sweeten the deal while on the clock and decide at that time.
wow thats a long post so maybe you covered this. What about a 3 way trade where Tenn gets Rivers so their compensation is offset by including SD in the mix. This is what I heard yesterday, or something close. SD gets Bradford and Eagles 20, Tenn gets Rivers and Eagles 3rd round pick, Eagles get 2. Is that even possible value wise?
I’m not sure why SD would want Bradford. They take on a lesser QB with health concerns but without much cap relief. Why wouldn’t they just want Mariota?
Im not sure why we keep hearing Browns are willing to give a 1 for the guy either so who knows. I agree though, doubt any of these scenarios happen in terms of Eagles moving all the way up.
Well, in peteike’s scenario, SD would be getting Bradford and another first round pick. I think this also assumes that they know Rivers doesn’t want to resign there.
why would they piss away Rivers who might not re sign, for Bradford on a 1yr deal who probably wont sign an extension and can leave the chargers at the end of the year..
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I dont know about you, but If I had to trade a QB like Rivers, it would be for a young talent I contractually control for 4-5 years… why trade rivers on a 1yr deal, for inferior Bradford on a 1yr deal?
why would anyone trade away Marriota for Bradford who probably wont agree to an extension before completing the trade?
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The ONLY way I think it would work is if Bradford was willing to sign an Extension with the Chargers or Titans, but How much do you have to pay a guy to get him to rip up his 1 yr 13mil dollar deal that he is currently signed to?
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unless Bradford agrees to a longterm extension with The chargers or Titans, I dont see how we can pull it off.
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and truthfully, Id rather have Bradford, way more developed as an NFL passer, and QB running skills dont impress me..
I think with the right team Bradford would be crazy not to sign an extension for less. I guess there could be clauses that dont pay out with another injury so possibly safer to stay with his 1 yr. I would hope on this last shot he wants to gamble on himself but who knows. Im not a MM fan so agree, not rooting for it really just wondering about trade scenarios.
i figure Bradford is a very rich man, he was the last #1 pick to benefit from the old way of paying rookies STUPID MONEY before the rookie wage scale…
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Bradford is a very rich man, and he is making 13mil this year, how much will it take to be worth his while and rip up 13mil 1yr deal to sign an Extension? even if you offer him 20mil guarantees, he has made so much money, is an extra 7mil guaranteed enough to get him to sign an extension instead of just taking the 13mil this year and gamble on yourself that you can earn another contract after the season…
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If Bradford isnt signing an Extension to stay in Chip Kellys shotgun spread with Demarco Murray, is he really going to sign an extension to be traded somewhere else?
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Im not a MM fan either, but I’ll live with it as long as we dont end up paying STUPID compensation..
solid points, also didnt think about Rivers for 1 yr vs SB for 1 yr, that would make no sense unless he signs for an extension. Ya this is all just writers making up scenarios to get clicks, has to be.
I also heard that Rivers isnt even on the trading block and all those rivers reports were started By Rivers agent, but if his agent did start those rumors he may have screwed up since shortly after we started to hear those Ruvers Rumors the chargers went to Eugene to have dinner with MM and work him out the next day..
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who knows whats true…. the one thing I will assume is true is the Browns interest in trading for MM… when they tried to trade for Sam Bradford and couldnt get him, It makes sense for them to turn their attention on MM…but Im hopng the Bucs shut all this down and draft Marriota…….
especially since he was ready to walk after last year, i don’t think he’s afraid of being out of the league with another injury.
hey what’s with this marriota stuff?
you trying to start a circus over here?
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/590893098982625280
Bengals doing their own Garbage recycling giving Marvin Lewis another 1yr extension. I dont understand how the posterboy of mediocrity is going to end up coaching the Bengals Longer then Andy Reid coached the eagles?
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At the very least Andy won plenty of playoff games, made it to the confrence Championship almost 1/3 of his 14yr tenure in Philly, 1 superbowl appearance… what has Marvin Lewis accomplished? A few Division Banners, and consistently choking/underperforming any time they actually made the playoffs. We ran Andy Reid out of Philly and he accomplished 3 times what Marvin has accomplished. How can the people of Cincy continue to accept this?…
It is a head-scratcher. Maybe ML is getting some love because the world blames Dalton for Cincy’s playoff failures.
“The Philadelphia Inquirer’s Jeff McLane doesn’t think CB Brandon Boykin would net the Eagles anything more than a fourth-round pick in a trade.
McLane goes on to say he doesn’t believe the Eagles have any plans to move Boykin. A slot corner-only, Boykin has long expressed his desire to play on the outside. He just doesn’t fit the profile for coach Chip Kelly, who prefers longer, rangier corners on the outside. Byron Maxwell will man one of those spots with Walter Thurmond likely having the early leg up on the opposite side.”-roto
if he ever gets the chance I think Boykin wins that spot on other side over Thurmond. Gotta admit I know nothing about Thurmond though
skip Bayless: “I have been told that Tebow has a chance, dare I say it, to compete for the starting QB of the Philadelphia Eagles during the preseason, and I will bet on him at least making the eagles roster”
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SMH.. we had to sign the one player on earth skip bayless is most obsessed with… Even worse its leading to a debate about it being ridiculuos that Tebow isnt a QB in the NFL since he clearly deserves it lol, which then Led to Stephan RACIST Smith to start running his mouth “well then if we are going to say its a disgrace that Tebow isnt in the NFL, we also have to say its a disgrace that Vince Young isnt in the NFL, both Vince Young and Tim Tebow are capable NFL QBs”-Racist Stephan A Smith…
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smh……
Stephan A Smith is SOOOOOOO racist… can see right thru that putz.
Even the idiots realize that Skip Bayless is an idiot.
if you can get the job done you are on a team, no one cares if your purple out there if you can play. winning trumps racism
Skip Bayless and Stephan A. Smith are the sport reporting equivalent of Jerry Springer / Maury Povich / Ricki Lake / Sally Jessy Raphael / et al.
So, those people that hold the likes of the latter list in high regard, likely feel the same for SB and SAS.
If there are any Justified fans here…does anyone else the resemblance between Winn Duffy and Skip Bayless?
100%, great call. Love winn duffy’s character (hate skip), probably my favorite character in the show. Sad that it had to end.
I’ve been getting really high on Tyler Lockett. He’s gonna be a playmaker. Has that Desean/Beckham explosion to him. Just not sure where he should be taken…..
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-nfl-schedule-is-here-ok-calm-down-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
For what it is worth, the Eagles have an easy projected SOS based on last year’s opponents and what the Las Vegas books expect this year based on pre-draft results.
Also have a limited travel schedule (bottom 5 in miles traveled), don’t play another team coming off a bye (teams coming off a bye have a 56% win percentage since ’08), and no West Coast games.
Also home 3 games in Dec, get a West Coast team in here for a 1 am start (AZ), and have only stretch where they play a lot (3 games in 11 days vs Miami, TB, and @ Detroit). Even 2 of those games are at home.
From a statistical point of view, the Eagles got just about the best schedule they could have possibly hoped.
Schedule is fantastic, we get an easy start (i am down on Dallas – they are 1 OL injury in TC from folding), can easily build momentum and have favourable situations in the harder parts of the schedule late on.
Think 12-4 is very possible, Losses to Detroit and Pats, 1 loss in division and 1 poor peformance.
Still think this is an 8 to 10 win team again. Should be a good position to win the NFC East again though because I don’t see the Boys being quite as good (or Romo staying healthy all year) or the Giants able to make enough of a leap to 10 wins.
With the defense improvement, thus far, I think 10 wins is on the conservative side. The offense will be better if only by minimizing the turnovers. If Bradford stays upright, 12 wins is reasonable, I think.
ill be pissed if they lose on Thanksgiving..i dont want to lose that game.. pick another game to lose please lol
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i dont really like guessing the record anyway… looking at the schedule today is impossible. by the time we end up having to play the games our opponents will be the opposite of how we view them today,,,
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Don’t they play @ Dallas coming off their (Eagles) bye?
Do you think they really change the PAT rules, and then if so do you think Eagles start going for it every time?
Then finally, is that why Tebow is here? Not to slot him in automatically, but for Kelly to determine whether Tebow can excel at that role. Maybe he still gets cut, but Kelly sees the rule change coming and thinks let’s take a hard look at Tebow for that role.
This seems most logical to me, out of the theories as to why Tebow is here.
“do you think Eagles start going for it every time?” that depends on our success-rate in short yardage situations generally. IF we’re better at goal line and 3rd and short i think you’ll see chip get more inventive with conversions.
On paper, Tebow could be great for short yardage and/or goal line situations. In practice, when the Jets tried that two years ago it was awkward and destroyed Sanchez’s confidence, not to mention the rhythm of the offense.
the OCs aren’t the same people. But i doubt we’d see multiple QBs/wildcat formations.
Sure. But sometimes what sounds good on paper does not translate at all. Everyone thought we’d run lots of 2RB personnel last year with Sproles and Shady….. never happened.
Chip might think he is better than the Jets coaches and the rhythm is not as important b/c these are PAT’s.
I really don’t think Chip is viewing Tebow as a secret short yardage weapon. It seems like a prevailing (or at least common) opinion is “Tebow may not make the final 53 man roster, but if he does, Chip will use him as a secret weapon for short yardage, extra points, …”
I think that if Tebow makes the team he will be a backup quarterback.
If he put all his work into holding he could be the next Koy Detmer.
I love this comment!
Vegas set the odds at a 75% chance that Tebow doesnt make the 53 man roster…
I would like to see him as an edge rusher or safety, his combine numbers are better than Trent Coles and comparable to Richard Sherman
Brad Smith x 10
“Brad Smith Role” ™
Put him in at fullback
so if the schedule was moved around the Pope’s visit, that clearly has something to do with Tebow right?
and is the Pope now a fan?
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/590920625692266496
Doug Farrar at SI release his Mock Draft 2.0 and had some interesting player valuations in the lower half of his draft, especially as it relates to DBs and potential Eagles targets:
20. Marcus Peters – Eagles
22. Kevin Johnson – Steelers
24. Shaq Thompson – Cardinals
26. Landon Collins – Ravens
30. Eric Rowe – Packers
32. Byron Jones – Patriots
FWIW, he had Trae Waynes going at 11 to the Vikings, and he had the Chargers trading up to #2 to take MM.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/21/2015-nfl-mock-draft-marcus-mariota-san-diego-chargers
I think the chargers are getting mm for sure
that can only happen if Rivers agrees to sign an extension with the Titans before making the trade official
almost makes too much sense.
Don’t know if the Eagles will ignore the Peters red flags -but all of those picks actually make sense.
I doubt Jones will fall to 32.
Re: Byron Maxwell’s Schedule . . . Or Why CBs Make Big Money
Gm 1: Julio Jones
Gm 2: Dez Byrant
Gm 3: Brandon Marshall
Gm 4: DJax
Gm 5: Brandin Cooks
Gm 6: ODB
Gm 7: Kelvin Benjamin
Gm 8: Dez Bryant
Gm 9: Jarvis Landry
Gm 10: Mike Evans
Gm 11: Calvin Johnson
Gm 12: *Tom Brady*
Gm 13: Sammy Watkins
Gm 14: Larry Fitzgerald
Gm 15: DJax
Gm 16: ODB
yikes. earn that paycheck son
no wonder we did that at all costs
Where would Jordan Matthews fit on this list?
Somewhere around Landry and Benjamin at the bottom three, I think
For me the list would go:
Tom Brady
Dez
Julio
Johnson
OBD
Marshall
Fitzgerald
Jackson
Watkins
Matthews
Landry
Cooks
Benjamin
A:
Your list prompts an interesting question.
If Kelly fielded a call the Saints offering Cooks for Matthews, straight up (w/ cap consequences irrelevant), would Kelly make the deal?
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Like your list, by the way.
Yes, but for me ranking Matthews where I did is somewhat based on my belief in Kelly+Bradford been a great combo for Matthews
Anders:
So project where you think Matthews would be if he’d landed with, for example, Miami?
Just above Benjamin
Agree. Agree. Agree.
Next question . . .
Looking back at the 2014 draft.
It’s the start of Rd 2 and JAX just selected MLee-USC.
Which WR do you take next if you’re Kelly and planning to move up to make sure you get your guy?
For me it was Devante Adams
nice pick.
does he have a little more juke to him than JM?
seems like it. but (as Anon wrote), what do i know.
you’re funny. I agree, though we’ll see where he is this year – hard for me to know where his potential is. I think Landry is better, but what do i know.
FUNNY?
FUNNY HOW?
FUNNY HOW?
LIKE A CLOWN?
LIKE I’M HERE TO AMUSE YOU?
HOW THE F**K AM I FUNNY?
???
http://www.legendsandchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/viking-warriors-ship-2.jpg
A . . .
I’m also a Landry guy.
And (akin to you) I don’t for a moment claim to know anything more than . . .
Page T-Law and Belichick when these kinds of questions come up.
That’s assuming skins don’t draft amari cooper, which they might.
hopefully the skins are dumb enough to draft him instead of replacing Orakpo with a young stud or getting some OL help…any time a rival spends a pick outside of the trenches, Im fine with it….when our Rivals spend high picks on the battle at the Line of scrimmage, thats when i get worried…
i’d prefer the giants didn’t have odb, but i see what you’re saying. Skins probably don’t even know who will be QB’ing them next season.
This is assuming Davis has him follow the other team’s #1 around, something Davis apparently doesn’t like to do.
watching that show soundfx with our game against the giants when sproles got bent backwards and Foles got pissed and yelled at the refs and was fired up, made me wonder… is Sam a tough great teammate like that too?
that one part made me miss Nick a bit.
not to mention the skins game!
can Bradford be the man in the NFC east?
Bradford’s more talented than Foles. That’s really what counts. Well, that and staying on the field -Bradford’s one of the few QBs worse than Foles in that area.
ya, I just wanted one more year to see what Foles had. Fingers crossed for Bradford
WOW, this clown has NO SHAME, skip bayless went on TV reporting that when Sanchez found out about Tebow possibly going to the Eagles, Mark Sanchez went to Chip kelly begging him to not add Tebow, so he doesnt have to go thru what he went thru with the Jets again…wow.. what a blatant lie
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does this lying troll fraud have no shame?’
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Its wasnt bad enough that this clown tried to make the case that a team with bradford and Sanchez could end up with Tebow as the starting QB?
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“I have been Told that in the preseason Tebow will even be given a chance to compete for the starting QB spot”…. WOW, what a blatant lie
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what is wrong with this baboon?
A guy making up sources to get attention? If only I had a wide range of nasty things to say about him in random caps.
ugh, why do you consume this trash, and then bring it here? who cares what skip bayless has to say? you’re like a pet who keeps dragging bloody animal carcasses to our doorstep, and then (I guess) won’t stop complaining about whatever strange diseases they’ve given you (in this mixed metaphor, you’re a talking animal GEAGLE! and diseased!)
BP:
Love that you addressed the mixed metaphor.
I agree. No reason to say look what so and so crazy person said. It just gives attention to the person.
Eagles hosting Alani Fua today. OLB from BYU at 6’5″ but only 240 lbs. Can be moved to several different positions and I like that he has a 6.83 3-cone drill. Maybe some upside as a pass rusher. In any case, a day three prospect worth keeping your eye on.
unless we get lucky and Bud Dupree falls in our lap which aint happening, I hope we wait til day 3, and take a flier on a kid with upside like you boy Fua or Shaq Riddick… there arent any OLBs in round 2 or 3 that I LOVE
I’ll go with Fua just because I feel we need more Pacific Islanders.
you know my rules… every top defense needs Dreadlocks and a samoan/Tongan(Pacific Islander)…
How about a Maori ruby player or two? Huge, tough, buff and give a great haka.
http://www.espnscrum.com/PICTURES/CMS/12000/12061.2.jpg
Fua screams potential Eagles pick with one of our 5th rounders
Tim Tebow’s one-year contract with the Eagles is worth $660,000 and contains zero guaranteed money.
It’s the bare minimum. The Philadelphia Inquirer has characterized Tebow’s chances of landing a 53-man roster spot as “long,” and Tebow’s contract supports that. At best, he’ll be the No. 3 behind Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez.-roto
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Chargers GM Tom Telesco said “it’s our plan and intent” to keep Philip Rivers “well into the future.”
Telesco declined to answer a follow-up question on whether he has talked to the Titans about a possible trade centered around Rivers and the No. 2 overall pick, only saying, “I’m going to let that question go.” It’s Telesco’s most forthright denial we’ve heard from him, yet, but not one that’s going to silence the rumors. Telesco said he was only doing his due diligence by scouting Marcus Mariota.
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why does the media continously ask coaches and GMs to blatantly reveal their draft strategy like there is any chance to get a truthful answer?
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Our media is the craziest of the bunch. they are so Nuts that they ask chip to reveal his plans which only an idiot would do. they ask questions that no coach can honestly answer, and then they rip Chip for lying to them? LOL when in reality these morons should rip chip if he actually told them the truth..
“why does the media continously ask coaches and GMs to blatantly reveal their draft strategy like there is any chance to get a truthful answer?”
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The media is only asking for an answer that sounds believable.
Since the draft, and roster building in general, has so any moving parts, GMs and coaches have plenty of built-in plausible deniability.
So much in fact that GMs and coaches could spin yarns every day just to amuse themselves — all the while sounding perfectly credible.
Sort of like what Kelly tries to do.
I volunteer to be the VP of bullshittery for the Eagles.
https://38.media.tumblr.com/48a6f8db2308c832ce82d2e0eb784783/tumblr_n0rtj6Inod1qgxmqno2_500.gif
But can you say contradictory statements so fluidly that the are not even questioned?
We are committed to building through the draft. Now please welcome all of our free agent additions.
They should have given him another $6000, just to mess with people.
Best comment of the off season.
Re: Marcus “Redshirt” Mariota
Kelly, if memory serves, typically red-shirted kids at Oregon. He certainly did with his best QB prospect in Mariota.
Right now, Kelly has a talented (when healthy!!!) QB in Bradford on a 1-year deal.
Why’s that matter?
Kelly can go ahead and spend some future high picks and/or players to get Mariota — on the theory that Kelly gets what he wants, and he wants MM.
In the meantime, Mariota spends the next 12 months marinating in the new offense . . .
Then, after Bradford racks up big numbers, Kelly can:
1. Tag Bradford in 2016.
2. Let Bradford find a QB-needy team that’ll pay him what he wants, and
3. Give the Eagles a 1st Rd pick in exchange (maybe more) to recoup assets traded for MM.
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Crazy? Maybe. Maybe not.
First, lots of folks here and elsewhere talk about Kelly operating on a multi-dimensional chess board. Not the usual checker board used by most football people.
This scenario removes all pressure from MM.
It lets Bradford improve his stock while filling the Birds’ QB position. (If Sanchez could look good, except for his congenital INT problems, then Bradford should look even beter; and SB has no congenital INT problems.)
Second, after the 2008 season, when Matt Cassel had posted crazy good numbers for the Pats, Belichick tagged him and then sent him to KC (with LB Mike Vrabel) for a 2nd Rd pick, no 38 overall.
Matt Cassel. For the 38th overall pick. (Or Kolb and Feeley for 2nd Rdrs)
So the rent-play-tag-and-trade scenario isn’t a fantasy.
What might be the fantasy, however, is Bradford making it through an entire season unscathed.
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This is the kind of thing well-paid ESPN analysts think up, by the way.
This is essentially the argument I made for taking Hundley. For MM it would just be the opportunity cost of multiple other high picks.
http://igglesblitz.com/2015/02/brett-hundley-yes/
Belichick —
You’re at the heart of this move.
What happened with Cassel.
And your very positive view of Hundley invites this kind of deal.
(Wondering a lot where Hundley will go.)
Coach —
Serious question on Hundley.
Where do you expect him to go?
I think he’s QB2 and worth a top 10 pick.
I think he could go anywhere from the teens to mid 2nd.
Very interesting projection!
You sold me on this kid when I first asked you about him.
Is Winston QB3 or where on your list?
On talent, QB3, off my board though.
QB# based on interceptions? or other things?
Interceptions, overall game. I think the “pro style” and “leading his team to victory” (he’s the reason they weren’t blowing people out to begin with) all the other stupid arguments used to prop up his game are dumb. If he had played at Indiana instead of FSU, nobody would be saying he’s pick 1-1.
the town would go nuts watching MM ride pine for a year but that would probably benefit him a lot.. sounds like a great “plan” … hope it happens
NO GREG HARDY for the birds!! suspended 10 games!
Greg Hardy suspended 10 games, including both games against Eagles. Ah, so sad.
LOL
The NFL is crazy, i don’t even know what to say. So you bench him for a while year while the situation is adjudicated and even after you finish the case (charges dismissed) you still get 10 games? Wasn’t this his first offense, is it 6 games for a first offense?
I thought they just changed it to their discretion. If so, they have to play hardball now after Ray Rice, they have no choice but to come down with the hammer.
Their investigation found that he was physically violent against the woman 4 times and that he had withheld info from investigators. As far as “charges dismissed”, that doesn’t hold much water with me when he clearly payed off alleged victim to not cooperate with prosecutors. That may save him from jail time, it shouldn’t save his job.
Another way of saying, maybe, the face of the NFL in NYC doesn’t believe players — it believes the victims.
In a perfect world, the NFL could rely on the courts/police to do their job properly and then base their suspensions off of that. Post-Rice, that clearly isn’t feasible from a PR standpoint. They have to investigate the circumstances themselves and then determine if the alleged victim is actually a victim or not. I don’t think the “victim” should automatically be classified as such as there are cases where there are false accusations, but in this case it appears that Hardy committed the acts he was charged with and the only reason he’s not in jail is because he paid for the problem to go away. The prosecutor should have had more backbone and prosecuted him anyway even if they didn’t have the cooperation of the alleged victim.
Agree.
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If Hardy concealed prior bad acts, he sunk himself.
Reminds of a biblical proverb I’d use in closing when I was a prosecutor:
“The wicked flee when no man pursueth; but the righteous are secure as a young lion.”
the white bronco did fleeeth
Juries generally get an instruction from the court before deliberating that “flight” may be treated as evidence of the defendant’s *consciousness of guilt*.
Certainly in federal court.
In that strange LA County courthouse case . . . wouldn’t be surprised if the judge told the jury not to worry about the chase.
that quote assumes all police tactics are fair and color blind.
No question, you’re right about that.
I was fortunate to be a federal prosecutor doing white-collar cases. Dealing with wildly inflated balance sheets and execs timing their European vacations with imminent indictments is a far cry from local crime.
war stories appreciated
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/25/business/crazy-eddie-s-chief-is-arrested-in-israel.html
are you Samuel L Jackson?
he was better off trying to serve his punishment last year… But the fact that he collected 13mil last year for doing nothing, i dont feel bad for his 10 game suspension…they had to punish him after letting him keep all his money last year
oh and crazy is what Hardy did, not the NFL
Hardy was clearly in the wrong. I think you should get to play during an investigation. But to be on the exempt list during an investigation, which can take a year and then have to serve a sentence on top of that is wild. Players better be on notice.
ya I know you werent defending him but ya, pretty close to zero tolerance. The tough part is if someone is innocent and suspended waiting for it to play out in the court.
especially if they aren’t a pro bowler. it’s pretty much over. I hate defending these guys though i think there are valid reasons to, but at some point personal responsibility has to kick in. Even though i realize that all of this nonsense was precipitated by Goodell’s poor handling of the Ray Rice fiasco I didn’t, at that time, expect that this would be the outcome of that.
Anon:
Really well put.
He was still paid while he was on the exempt list. I think a fair argument could be made that rather than a future suspension that he should be fined 10 game checks from the time he was on the exempt list based on his salary last year and then that money should be credited toward the Panthers’ cap going forward. He was on the franchise tag last year so that would hurt him more financially. I don’t know that the CBA allows for retro-active suspensions of that nature though.
Agree.
Any word on whether he’ll be appealing?
He will be, but it sounds like what they found is pretty bad…4 counts of assault on the woman that they know of. Not sure if there’s much of a chance to get it shortened.
1 time – accident
2 times – mistake
3 times – pattern
4 times – very bad guy
And he fell in the draft because people knew he was a sociopath.
I’m not sure once is an accident, really.
Also, the time when a woman is in the greatest danger is when she tries to get away.
Shefter has the detail.
https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/945025905550051
Some of the memes in the comment section of that article are priceless.
He shouldn’t be allowed in the NFL full stop.
For a second I thought this was a post about Marlon “Favorite”….
12-4
10-6
8-8
That’s the 3 different Eagles W-L predictions with a healthy Sammy, the rookie Marcus and the Sanchize.
you forgot one
Sorry, Mea culpa. Here you go: 2-14
Tebow?
Barkley
One more: 16-0 with Kinne according to BLG
If Hardy stays suspended that means he misses both games against the Eagles. Does that play into it at all?
Kempski humor.
https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/590996317025001473
Heard on the radio today there’s a guy who writes for the Oregonian that used to cover Chip, says he’s not leaving the draft without Mariota; Chip always gets what he wants, just a question of how much he’ll have to give up to do it.
Steelhead are very difficult to catch. You need to try different baits. Chip learned to fish steelhead while at Oregon, and he was very good at it.
what’s the latest?
My friends got a phone call. One in New Hampshire, and the other lives in Oregon. Serious calls.
So, no news for now.
You either know or you don’t… stop trolling us like this… : )
he is leaving the draft without mariota. he has his Qb right now.
Those weren’t my words; that’s what the guy said. Sorry, should have clarified.
we know he doesn’t always get what he wants already. if it were true we would have ODB on the team.
chip removed the only impediment to get what he wants. hopefully he doesn’t want marrioata, i can get behind the team as constructed, though if sammy b gets hurt it’ll be a long season. I like the extend and trade theory ACV and others presented earlier.
not funny
Even if Hardy’s suspension is reduced to 8 games in appeal, he will still miss both Eagles games.
Does Chip have the culture and leadership in place to take a flyer on one of his troubled past players?
Free agent TE Colt Lyerla is fully recovered from his knee injury.
Lyerla injured multiple knee ligaments in training camp with the Packers last year. He recently posted a video that shows him running routes and catching passes in an attempt to get back in the NFL. Lyerla’s September arrest for DUI has also been dismissed. Despite elite physical tools, Lyerla’s character concerns make him unlikely to get a second contract. Source: NFL.com
Wasn’t he undrafted last year? If chip didn’t want him then why now?
Two words. Quack Quack.
I hope for him that some team will take a chance. I never understood why the Pats didnt bring him in.
While he has some troubles, he isnt close to Hernandez garbage. I also hope Kelly would give him a chance, but maybe Lyerla has burned some bridges with Kelly?
No one is quite close to Hernandez garbage. That’s a pretty unique brand. With that said, Lyerla is pretty crappy himself, compared to most of the rest of the NFL low-lifes.
Comparing anyone to Hernandez doesn’t do much good. He kind of blows up the scale. It’s like Hernandez is to player misbehavior what the RG3 trade was to draft pick compensation.
Greg Jennings to Dolphins. Probably means they don’t go WR in Round 1. Normally I’d say it shouldn’t matter but they’re already missing their 3rd round pick and have a lot of other needs.
8mil 2yr deal for him is just silly…..
Lol
Why?
Jennings is old. They cut all of their receivers. Stills + Jennings….If Cooper/White/Parker is on board…gotta do it.
Eagles having convo’s with the bears the last week or so.. initially i heard it was Barkley talk, but the next report was it wasnt clear if they were looking at one of our players, or if we were looking at one of there’s…
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only Bear player that jumps out at me as someone we might be interested in would be Kyle Long, but they would never trade him to us… what other Bear players could we possibly interested in?
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I guess it could be about Barkley, Boykin or Polk… mathis maybe?
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Then again,. we havent heard a single trade rumor linking us trading up to the Bears spot, maybe they are looking at a deal with the bears as the first part of the trade up for his golden boy?
Jeffries
JEFFREEEZZZZ
Could be Mariota, Long (omg him+Lane just bullying the right side?) or Jeffry
Tebowsome!