Too Legit

Posted: April 13th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 247 Comments »

I saw this today on Twitter and loved it.

Classic draft misdirection: #Eagles scouts telling teams they view SE La QB Bryan Bennett as a safety. (Chip Kelly coached the QB at Oregon)
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 13, 2015

Interesting. Made me think of this.

Chip Kelly does love QBs who move to other spots. Lane Johnson was a junior college QB. James Casey played some QB. Brad Smith was a star QB in college. The thought of moving Bennett to a new position makes some sense.

But not all that much sense.

Bennett has DB size at 6-2, 211, but he ran 4.81 at the Combine. The Eagles like Safeties that have good man cover skills. Do I want a converted QB that runs 4.8 covering a WR? Heck no.

It is possible the Eagles see him as a UDFA and do want to try him at DB. Timed speed isn’t the same thing as game speed. But why would Eagles scouts be sharing that info? This totally feels the scouts are spreading mis-information.

Now comes the tricky part.

Are the scouts doing this because the Eagles like Bennett as a QB and they are trying to make people think Chip Kelly has no interest in his former pupil? I mean, if Kelly doesn’t think Bennett is a good QB, why should any other team have interest?

The other possibility is that the scouts were told to do this to make people think the Eagles do have interest in Bennett. By spreading the story, the scouts are bringing attention to Bennett. You might do that if there was another late round QB you had your eyes on and didn’t want teams to notice that player.

Jimmy Bama and I discussed Bennett recently. He wasn’t sure Kelly liked Bennett. This was a hunch of his based on some things that were said and the way they were said. I didn’t draw the same conclusion, but certainly could see Jimmy being right. Bennett never started for Kelly and ended up transferring away. Their relationship might have been more rocky than we would guess. Might, being the key word.

I think Bennett would be a good late round target for the Eagles. Matt Barkley seems to have a short future here in Philly. The team will need to add a young QB to the mix. Bennett is a solid athlete with a good arm. He also knows Kelly’s offense. He’s the kind of player you could develop over time. He might never become starter material, but might be a good backup.

time will tell if the Eagles are genuinely interested in him as a QB or DB, or if this is just a way to throw people off some other target.

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DE Ced Thornton signed his RFA tender.

That’s good news, but now the team has to work with him on a long term deal. Thornton is a good player and should come at a reasonable price.

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Jesse James/TE/Penn St visits/workouts scheduled with Pittsburgh Steelers, GB Packers, SD Chargers, Philadelphia Eagles, Baltimore Ravens
— Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) April 13, 2015

The Eagles have checked out quite a few TEs. Most of them are bigger guys that have the potential to be very good blockers. This makes sense with Brent Celek’s age. Zach Ertz is a terrific pass catcher, but his blocking needs a lot of work. It seems like the Eagles would love to find a guy that is about about 6-4 or 6-5 and goes 260 pounds.

James has a lot of potential and would be an interesting player to add. He’s a big guy that can catch and block. So often these days TEs seem to be smaller, athletic guys…essentially bulked up WRs. James is a legit TE.

247 Comments on “Too Legit”

1 daveH said at 8:58 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Tanguy Pepiot
.. a duck
.. majorly fupped duck!
2 Greg Richards said at 8:59 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Benjamin Allbright
‏@AllbrightNFL
24m24 minutes ago
#HotRumor alert… QB that Philly/Chip might be interested in is….
…Garrett Grayson???
Benjamin Allbright
@AllbrightNFL
21m
21 minutes ago
That Grayson/Eagles tidbit was from someone reliable, but hardly “BookIt” status…
Benjamin Allbright
‏@AllbrightNFL
Either way, still told Bradford is the plan near-term.
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3 Mitchell said at 10:29 PM on April 13th, 2015:
I thought Grayson was someone Chip might be interested in several months ago, I was subsequently booed off stage. I think he would be an extremely interesting qb to see in camp and already has a better arm than Sanchez and Barkley.
4 NinjaP said at 1:06 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Has any members of the eagles staff even spoken to grayson yet? I saw his name wasn’t on the list over on PE.com’s message board where they have the rumors collected.
5 Mitchell said at 1:17 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Apparently he had a formal interview. http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/4/13/8407473/2015-nfl-draft-rumors-eagles-garrett-grayson-colorado-state-quarterback
6 A_T_G said at 7:17 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Boooooooooooo! Booooo! Booooooooooooo!
7 eagleyankfan said at 9:29 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Agreed. Wish I had some tomatoes to throw…
8 Anders said at 7:18 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Grayson is like Foles with slightly more mobility (he does not play up to his tested numbers), but with a crappy throwing motion and weak arm
9 Mitchell said at 9:18 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Nope. There is nothing weak about his arm and he has vastly more mobility than Foles does. HE has excellent placement on deep balls and can also fit them into tight Windows.
10 Anders said at 12:42 PM on April 14th, 2015:
For me this throw shows lack of arm strength
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=253962&gif=AjarLavishBarracuda
Throws like that is a big part of what we do and too even get out there he has to put air under it, allowing the CB to break on it.
11 Mitchell said at 12:57 PM on April 14th, 2015:
This is a poor example. He wasn’t even trying to drive the ball, he was trying to float it over the defender. A poor throw none the less, but he was definitely trying to throw that with touch, not power.
12 Anders said at 2:18 AM on April 15th, 2015:
If you have enough arm talent you can do both. If he cant throw an out with precision without floating it, it will be a big problem unless he has Peyton Manning’s anticipation and brain.
13 Mac said at 11:30 PM on April 13th, 2015:
There’s a lot of athletic yet somehow limited QBs in this draft. Something tells me that Chip is interested in all of them… :p
14 ICDogg said at 9:05 PM on April 13th, 2015:
so Crabtree is signing with the Raiders… that’s almost like career suicide
15 Henly125 said at 9:16 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Randy Moss would disagree lol
16 GEAGLE said at 9:17 PM on April 13th, 2015:
looked like career suicide would have been telling the raiders NO… not as if he had options….
17 pm716971 said at 9:11 PM on April 13th, 2015:
As a huge Penn State fan I would love Jesse James in a birds uniform. The dude is an absolute monster at 6-7 270 and is very athletic. The only knock on him is he really isn’t as great of a blocker as he should be at his size.
18 GEAGLE said at 9:13 PM on April 13th, 2015:
we can teach that…
19 pm716971 said at 9:35 PM on April 13th, 2015:
I know we can teach it I’m just saying that’s the knock on him and for being his size its a little concerning that he hasn’t figured it out yet. Also he doesn’t have a great set of hands. I’ve watched him drop plenty of passes in his career at PSU. All in all though he is a great athlete for his size and would be a good middle round pick. He will probably need a year to work on his blocking and catching and then he could step in for Celek as our TE-Y.
20 Ramiroquaaii said at 9:17 PM on April 13th, 2015:
I don’t know him, and I was expecting someone would say about his blocking, but that’s not the case.
Ertz ir developing his blocking, Celek isn’t that old yet and we have Burton as a good surprise on St’s last season, maybe he can gain some space this year.
A TE in Draft only makes sense if the guy is a freak or a steal.
The team has to many holes to fill yet.
21 GEAGLE said at 9:18 PM on April 13th, 2015:
This kid is a Baller… we would be lucky to get him, he does much more then Block
22 Ramiroquaaii said at 9:19 PM on April 13th, 2015:
I’ll check some videos of him to see better.
What round he is mocked?
23 pm716971 said at 9:35 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Earliest I saw him mocked was round 3.
24 Ramiroquaaii said at 9:32 PM on April 13th, 2015:
From the little I saw, I can say that he is at least fun to watch haha
And he is…BIG, very big.
25 GEAGLE said at 10:40 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Yeah he is a big beast. Che l out his combine numbers, you will be surprised how good he measured for such a beast. Explosive athlete..
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Perfect eventual replacement for celek, like Celek he can still make plays down field for us, but he can also grow to be a moose of a Blocker..
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I would LOVE to get him In the 4th, but I’m not sure he makes it out of round 3
26 Ramiroquaaii said at 10:48 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Yeah, I see his numbers, very impressive.
But I think is unlikely, due others teams work him out and his position in the board.
But I don’t discard Chip trading down the 1st round and getting a guy like Agholor and, if he loves Jesse, getting him in the 3rd.
Is the only way I see they picking him.
27 GEAGLE said at 9:13 PM on April 13th, 2015:
be dissapointed if we didnt come away from the draft with Jesse James.. Finally there is a PSU player I like, go get him!!
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i dont know why people assume that Barkley is done in philly? i dont like kid, and couldnt care less if he is here or not, but I dont see what has happened to lead everyone to assume that he is done here? chip has been pretty straight forward about cutting guys right away who wont be here next year.. dont see what he has to gain by holding on to barkley and then cutting him in the summer when its hard to find a job? its not as if he has trade value..
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in the land of instant gratification, is it that hard to believe that Chip would like to have a rookie being groomed on the bench for two, three years before we give up on him? A 4th round pick that doesnt play in his first 2 seasons, HARDLY MEANS ANYTHING, let alone allow an entire fanbase to assume the kid is done here,,, If I had it way, we would draft QBs groom them on the bench for 3 years without letting anyone see them..
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dont understand what has happened, or what clue someone can possibly point to, that would give us a reason to believe Barkley is gone… if chip didnt want to keep working with him, why wasnt he cut in march with the rest of the guys we released?
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crazy how we have become such slaves to instant gratification that a QB drafted in the 4th round sits his first two years, and everyone assumes that means he is done? yeah I dont get it at all…
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but I dont like Barkley very much, so feel free to get rid of him, I just think this way of thinking is highly dysfunctional… your 4th round QB better produce in his first two years or he is out of here? Its not like we played a bum ahead of him, sanchez is like the best backup in the league….
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I do know that if we kick young QBs to the curb if they dont prove to be the answer the first two years, it will be a long time before we find a QB we can stick with.
28 anon said at 10:20 PM on April 13th, 2015:
“our 4th round QB better produce in his first two years or he is out of here” – gotta improve at least. I mean Foles got bounced after 1 season and he produced AND was a late round pick, why not Matty B who is leagues behind Foles?
29 sonofdman said at 10:34 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Also, they spent decent money on Sanchez to be a backup. You would think if they liked Barkley at all that after two years they could rely on him to be the backup. But who knows what they really think?
30 GEAGLE said at 10:44 PM on April 13th, 2015:
I think we are getting out of control with our expectations. We destroy kids after their rookie seasons now, and assume it’s over when a 4th Rd QB sits for two years?… Its getting out of control with expectations all out of whack… But whatever. I’d love to be wrong and get rid of that usc boy
31 sonofdman said at 5:41 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I agree with you overall about people getting out of control with expectations and giving up on kids too early without giving them a chance to develop.
I have no idea whether Barkley is any good and I am making no judgements, but the impression I get is that Chip and the Eagles coaches don’t seem to high on him and they see him every day in practice so they would know if he is developing as well as he should be.
32 GEAGLE said at 8:35 AM on April 14th, 2015:
the ONLY conclusion I can reach was that in Barkleys 2nd season, the coaches didnt think he was a better option then Veteran Sanchez who is probably the top backup in the league…. that piece of data is hardly enough to assume chip has reached the point where he wants to stop developing Barkley
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if Barkley wasnt going to be on next years roster,I assume he would be waived alrready so he can have a chance to find a next job, just like chip did waiving all our players early in the process
33 GEAGLE said at 10:37 PM on April 13th, 2015:
You haven’t seen Matt play, how can you say he hasn’t improved? Lol for all we know chip could be pleased with how he progressed throughout last year. U have absolutely zero basis to say that Barkley won’t be on next years team…
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The only reason he would still be on the roster right now if he wasn’t in next years plans is if we think we can get a late pick or a player for player trade for Barkley, doubt it….. Nothing at all has happened to give anyone a hint to be able to say he won’t be here…. I look forward to replacing him, but nothing happened that can allow me to believe that he won’t be here, so it’s pretty laughable that this has become the majority assumption.
34 anon said at 10:54 PM on April 13th, 2015:
not saying he hasn’t just saying he has to. I think he’s on the roster b/c the draft is unpredictable and we don’t want to be a position where we HAVE to pick up a guy.
35 GEAGLE said at 8:33 AM on April 14th, 2015:
again, NO ONE has any evidence that chip is ready to pull the plug on the Barkley experiement, yet you all parrot that his eagles career is over any way, to the point where it has become a popular assumption… hope everyone is right and the USC boy is out of here, I just think its funny that people can reach this popular assumption without having 1 clue to support their theory
36 eagleyankfan said at 9:25 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I’ll disagree. I think there’s plenty to support the theory. CK is looking a tons of QB’s. He’s brought in Tebow. CK isn’t looking at all these QB’s to replace Bradford or Sanchez. Barkley is the only reasonable candidate to be replaced. Other than CK coming right out and saying it, I think all his actions point to it. I don’t think there’s 1 clue to support the theory that Barkley is staying….
37 GEAGLE said at 11:46 AM on April 14th, 2015:
dont care how set we are at QB, I think chip will look at QB’s THIS MUCH every single year during the predraft process, No More, no less…. this is a coach that took the owner and GM to go see Geno Friggin smith, who anyone with a brain knew chip wasnt going to draft…
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brought in Tebow? come on man, you are friggin reaching now lol…. a favor to tebow and his agent,,,
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If chip decided he is done working with Barkley, why wasnt he waived with the rest of our players in time for them to find solid jobs and land on their feet? If Chip decided he is done working with Barkley, there is no reason to screw with his future and keeo him this deep into the offseason.. he could cut him and draft or sign an Udrafted kid to work with,, or even trade for another young veteran like Glennon..
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NO EVIDENCE points to Barkley being done in Philly… Only evidence we have is that we dont trust Barkley to hand him the #2 QB spot next season where we will try to make a playoff run…
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and if and when Barkley is replaced with Petty, Grayson or some Long Shot, I hope the fanbase is smart enough not to write him off just because he doesnt provide instant gratification in his first two NFL SEASONS..like everyone who is blindly writing Barkley off after two years is doing right now…
38 botto said at 12:46 PM on April 14th, 2015:
sounds like he’ll be done if chip finds someone to replace him in the draft, otherwise, no.
39 eagleyankfan said at 1:20 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Agreed. If a QB is drafted and Bradford isn’t part of a trade, CK is replacing Barkley — and replacing him for a reason….
40 GEAGLE said at 1:27 PM on April 14th, 2015:
but i dont understand that Rational with a QB… you either think the young man is worth continuing to work with or not.. you had him for two years, if you think he is a lost cause and he wont be good enough, then get rid of him immediately… If you know he isnt the answer, then any young QB, even an undrafted one is a better option because at least the new young QB at least is worth looking at….. I dont understand the thought process of not wanting to continue developing Barkley, but holding him just in case you cant get one in the draft? if he is good enough, you keep working with him, if he isnt, you cut him, and add whatever young QB you can to take a look at, even if its a UDFA…
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i dont understand how you can think he isnt worth continuing to develop, yet you might bring him back if you cant get a QB in the draft?
41 botto said at 1:54 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I don’t think barkley is bad. but I would just assume if you aren’t 100% on getting a qb in the draft you keep him around because he’s doing ok, but if someone falls to you in the draft that you think has more upside you take him and check it out in camp and go from there.
its just a perception of upside by the coach I guess. we have barkley if someone with more potential comes to us in the draft they can battle it out and see what happens.
why wouldn’t it be approached this way.
you always always look for upgrades but you never know if you will get one.
42 GEAGLE said at 2:03 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Hopefully we can get something for him… but I Imagine it would have to be a player for player trade for some other long shot…if we dont like Brkley enough to keep him then I hope we get rid of him for anyone.. even just getting an upclose look at a UDFA is more valuable then keeping a QB that you dont believe in…if we KNOW barkley sucks, id rather take a look at ANY UNKNOWN, instead of just hopiung someone falls to us…. if Barkley sucks, then get him out of here and take a look at someone else..
43 eagleyankfan said at 1:18 PM on April 14th, 2015:
the point of Tebow — if any position can be upgraded, CK will. Tebow didn’t go to Philly to stack chairs. IF CK had no interest in upgrading, sure he’d do his yearly due diligence — but bring in Tebow? Why?
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You don’t get rid of Barkely now anyway. Camp bodies are needed.
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I’m not understanding your last paragraph. If Barkely is replaced(to me, it’s a when), you don’t want us to give up on him? A guy who CK doesn’t believe in bringing along himself? IF he’s replaced, it’s because CK doesn’t see value in him. Why in the world wouldn’t we write him off?
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IF CK believed Barkley could amount to anything, why bring in a relatively young QB in Bradford? Why not just have Sanchez play another year and let Barkley take over in 2 years? The reason: CK doesn’t see value in it. Or are you saying: Bradford is the now and next 5 years and in 6 years we can look for Barkley to take over? Or maybe Barkley can take over for number 2 spot in 2 years?
44 Bert's Bells said at 1:12 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Third string QB needs to practice well. Barkley has a huge advantage there over a free agent or draft pick.
Chances are that Kelly will want him in camp, at least, to get as many reps for the pass catchers as possible.
45 Charlie Kelly said at 9:19 PM on April 13th, 2015:
bennet only ran a 4.8? wow, he looks like he can fly on tape, esp his initial burst. he was impressive running the football
46 OregonDucker said at 12:16 AM on April 14th, 2015:
He’s really good with a broom and taking out the garbage. Maybe Chip will let him clean the locker room after games?
47 Bert's Bells said at 1:09 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Sounds like a Hall of Fame connection with Trash Can.
48 ICDogg said at 9:36 PM on April 13th, 2015:
During the draft, ESPN analyst Joe Theismann stated in regard to Phillips: “Everybody’s called him the best player in the draft.”[10] The Rams thought so highly of Phillips that on the same day of the draft, they traded his predecessor, Jerome Bettis, to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
On July 29, 1996, Phillips signed a three-year, $5.625-million contract. He received no signing bonus, but his salaries were $1.5 million in 1996, $1.875 million in 1997 and $2.25 million in 1998. Also, he had a chance to receive some guaranteed money in the future if he met certain conditions.[11] The off-field troubles that plagued him at Nebraska resurfaced in St. Louis; in less than two years with the Rams, he spent 23 days in jail.[12]
In 1996 Phillips had played 15 games with 11 starts. He carried the ball 193 times for 632 yards for 4 touchdowns. In 1997, Phillips surpassed his entire 1996 total in only 10 games and nine starts, rushing for 634 yards. However, on November 20, the Rams lost patience with him and released him. According to Rams team officials, coach Dick Vermeil had told Phillips that he was being demoted to second string due to his inconsistent performance (even though he was on pace for a 1,000-yard season) and inability to stay out of trouble. Phillips stormed out of the Rams’ facility, and missed that day’s meeting and practice, and was released from the team.[13] A teary-eyed Vermeil at the time called Phillips potentially the best running back he had ever coached.[citation needed]
49 anon said at 10:17 PM on April 13th, 2015:
why is this relevant?
50 ICDogg said at 10:20 PM on April 13th, 2015:
1. Phillips just reappeared in the news after apparently killing his cellmate
2. There is no better precautionary tale about drafting a guy on the basis of big talent without considering character.
51 anon said at 10:31 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Yeah but Phillips was a huge problem in college and undoubtedly was not giving great interviews either.
52 D3FB said at 11:25 PM on April 13th, 2015:
I think it’s more just a general statement to the “I don’t care if they beat up old ladies and pillage in their free time just win damnit” crowd.
53 OldDocMcQuackadillyBlip said at 2:16 AM on April 14th, 2015:
If I’ve learned nothing else from interweb message boards, I’ve learned that knowing someone’s height & 40 time = scouting, and that questionable characters with ‘upside’ always work out.
Hopefully Chip trades a 5th for Gordon, brings Russell in to give Bradford some competition and swoops in for Hernandez once that pesky legal snafu gets sorted.
54 Insomniac said at 2:44 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Everyone forgave the vikings and Genghis Khan so why can’t we forgive guys like DGB and uhh OJ Simpson?
55 laeagle said at 2:51 AM on April 14th, 2015:
That’s only because most of us are related to Genghis Khan. Or, more correctly, Chingis Khan…
56 D3FB said at 2:51 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I’m willing to live with Eagles fans in 2612 being pissy we didn’t take DGB. That’s a price I’m willing to pay.
57 eagleyankfan said at 9:21 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I don’t see your point I guess. Every year there are always players in the draft with questionable character. ALWAYS. You only read about the ones that continue their bad ways. Each player is different. I’m not saying Winston is a saint etc etc, all I’m saying is, not ever one is a Philips. If a draftee has a tag of “questionable” it doesn’t mean he’ll be a murderer in jail….
58 GEAGLE said at 10:53 PM on April 13th, 2015:
Both locally and nationally the media Wont let go of the “chip isn’t done yet this offseason ” or “Chip still has one more surprise up his sleeve”..
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Lol wonder at what point the media will be ready to waive the white flag that the “big surprise up chips sleeve” is that he is dead serious about planning to light the league up with Sam Bradford? He is going to look good in this offense, I know it…… The concern is, will Sam looking awesome prove to be the ultimate cock tease with him getting hurt in week 5, leaving us wasting another year with Sanchez?
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But every franchise can say the same exact thing. There isn’t a Qb in the NFL that can take a direct shot to the knee.. I just think The level of Sam”s play in this offense is the BIG SURPRISE up chips sleeve
59 Sammy Bee's Knees said at 3:37 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I agree. The things that held back Foles last year are strengths for Sam: accuracy and pocket presence. Plus, I’m sure the guy has used a lot of his time to self-scout and try to work on the deficient parts of his game. I’m sure Sam wants to get on the field and prove wrong all the haters who have been calling him a bust for the last 2 years. I don’t know if he will stay healthy, but I expect him to be sharp and motivated for all the games he does play because this is such a make-or-break year for him both progression and contract-wise. This year will either be the turning point in his career towards success or his descent into mediocrity. I am personally dying to see him on the field in TC.
60 GEAGLE said at 8:28 AM on April 14th, 2015:
well said….we can bet chip knows what a quality offensive player in his scheme looks like, and Sam has a ton of talent and ability for our coaches to work with…. just need to keep him on the darn field
61 peteike said at 12:26 PM on April 14th, 2015:
who knows how Sams pocket presence will be post injury. We’ll all be hiding our faces every time theres pressure during the preseason, that should be fun. Also never know how Foles with another year under his belt would have performed in a system he knew post sophomore slump, he still had a lot of potential imo that everyones too impatient to wait on anymore. I get that its more than likely Foles wont pan out but I wanted that next year of progression. Oh well, Sam it is, a big if there also but I hope he proves my cynicism wrong.
62 GEAGLE said at 1:38 PM on April 14th, 2015:
what really sucks is the rams offense will suck so bad that we really wont be able to even find out… there OL is weak, ok run game, weak WR’s…. Seeing how Nick performs year 1 in that offense I dont think is a true indication of what Nick would have looked like year 3 in our offense with our OL back….. and its really frustrating to never know what he could have done, because I believe in that kid, especially in the 4th Quarter
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but if we had to lose Nick, Im happy it was for a guy with Sams talent level. rather lose Foles for healthy bradford, then lose foles for Mariota..
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whats funny is Nick LOVED it here, the Rams will put slop around him, and Nicks contract expires after the year…. any chance he can be coaxed into signing on to come home? lol The Ultimate Coup… Bradford vs/ Foles 2016 QB battle? 🙂
63 botto said at 1:51 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I think nick will do well in St Louis. good coach. offense probably fits him better. he will have some good days and some ok days. the defense will help him. I just hope we beat them in the NFC Championship game.
64 GEAGLE said at 1:59 PM on April 14th, 2015:
they better draft like 3 offensive lineman.. Nick should do good with Jared Cook, maybe get Tavon Austin going. probably need another WR besides Britt
65 eagleyankfan said at 8:40 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I still think CK will do a surprise, just not at QB. He spent months(reportedly) researching Bradford. You don’t do that kind of research to ship him off. If there are not surprises from CK —
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OD — I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If CK makes WTF moves, that will be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if he doesn’t, I will look for you, I will find you….
66 RobNE said at 3:18 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Good luck.
67 Mitchell said at 1:13 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I know I wouldn’t spend a draft pick on Bennett. In the 10 minutes between 2 games I watched he maybe completed 3 passes of more than 10 yards and not one deep ball. The poor guys line gave up so much pressure, he literally was backpedaling before the ball was snapped. He has poor accuracy and his running style will get him DESTROYED in the NFL. He’s not a good decision maker and tries to force balls, which his lack of accuracy makes even worse. Footwork is a mess. Is there such a thing as a 2 step drop?! The only good thing I can say about him is he has decent arm strength…… WOOF
68 Baloophi said at 1:13 AM on April 14th, 2015:
RE: Bennett & Grayson noise
– In the world of smokescreens, I wonder if the Eagles are welcoming/generating links to mid-to-late-round QB’s to make it easier to maneuver around for someone like Hundley or Petty. More than likely the reality is simply that the Eagles will be linked to every QB who threw a pass this year in college because “why not?”
69 NinjaP said at 1:20 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I don’t know Grayson makes sense as a guy to replace Matt Barkley.
70 Baloophi said at 1:54 AM on April 14th, 2015:
As does a used coat rack.
71 Ark87 said at 11:44 AM on April 14th, 2015:
We call them *Veteran* Coat racks in the biz, experience is a valuable commodity in the filmroom, er at the doorway of the filmroom
72 Anders said at 3:35 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Hey Tommy.
I know you aint great at IT, but there seems to be a problem with disqus and chrome for me.
73 GermanEagle said at 4:50 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Let him get some sleep, mate.
74 Anders said at 8:13 AM on April 14th, 2015:
NEVER!
75 BreakinAnklez said at 12:19 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Chrome is working fine with me
76 Anders said at 12:32 PM on April 14th, 2015:
For me, Disqus does not always load right and it just show the comments as pure text and read its a Chrome problem where it transforms the javascript to html.
77 BreakinAnklez said at 4:21 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Weird. I haven’t had that problem yet…also using Chrome from iOS so…not sure what you are using.
78 Anders said at 2:16 AM on April 15th, 2015:
Its only a problem on my laptop at Work using Windows 8.1, but at home I have zero problems, also with 8.1
79 Avery Greene said at 10:56 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Firefox bro!
80 peteike said at 12:27 PM on April 14th, 2015:
yes, Chrome stinks, I switched back to firefox after hating it to Chrome, only to go back to firefox because Chrome was so bad. The flash player crashes constantly.
81 Anders said at 12:34 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I switched to Chrome when Firefox began to be slow.
I have zero problems with flash crashing right now (I had once, but seems to be fixed pretty fast).
Chrome is still the fastest browser and it is nice to use Chrome when you like me use a lot of Googles products like Gmail, calender and have an Android phone
82 lewis don said at 7:42 AM on April 14th, 2015:
ive said it once before, but my favourite QB coming out of the draft is Garret Grayson. From the tape, to me he looks like he could develop into a great QB. But…what do I know. Just saw over at BGN that the Eagles are rumored to have interest in Grayson.
Perhaps. I would be excited if they draft OL, WR, CB/S, QB(Grayson)
83 Anders said at 8:14 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I disagree, but Im very interested in why you think Grayson could develop into a great QB?
84 lewis don said at 8:26 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Its all in the eye of the beholder on this one. When I watched the draft breakdown tape. What I saw from Grayson (and I didn’t watch every snap or all the videos), was good poise, I personally liked his throwing motion, (they say its too wide, but it looks fluid to me), What impressed me the most was his timing throws, and there were many of them. he threw a great variety of routes, his ball looked great on tape.
Then I found out he has comparable measurable to Mariota, runs in the 4.5s has a equivalent long jump and jumps 2 inches shorter.
So, I think he is a steal. I saw mariotas tape, and all that impressed me was his legs and quick release. But he barely threw the ball deep at all.
I think mariota will be ok. I see him going the route of a Kordell Stewart but better in the right system.
But I think if he doesn’t go to the eagles he will be using his legs more than his arms.
I think Grayson has what it takes to go through a progression in a efficient manner.
Im not saying he will be a hall of famer. But from what I saw, he looked to me to be the QB I would take.
I mean, I don’t even know why there is so much emphasis on first round talent.
Look around the league. How much first round talent actually are good compared to 2-6 rounder’s. ( I don’t actually know the answer to this, even remotely. I know other rosters but I don’t pay attention to what round people were selected in, I pretty much hate college athletics, I only watch tape on players)
Idk. In my estimation. Grayson has the capacity right now to be that guy.
85 Mitchell said at 9:25 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Agree completely. His arm isnt weak and I think it’s already stronger than our second and 3rd string qb. His motion may raise the risk of sack fumbles a tad but idk. His deep ball placement is excellent. I loved his placement on intermediate throws. I think he has plenty of mobility and has the potential to break off some runs. I watched his tapes several weeks ago and came away very impressed. I’ll have to watch him again today.
86 lewis don said at 9:31 AM on April 14th, 2015:
So im not alone! lol.
You mentioned his intermediate throws and mobility and I think you pretty much have summed it up beautifully.
I will be watching his tape more too.
87 Anders said at 12:36 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Grayson can throw deep, but it seems to me he has to have perfect footwork and sorta have to wind up is arm and he still struggles completing it deep.
Consider how much we rely on PA passes to get huge chunk of yards, I want a QB who can reliable hit a deep out and Grayson struggle with it just like Sanchez.
88 Mitchell said at 12:55 PM on April 14th, 2015:
He has a fantastic deep ball. That is one thing that stands out. I disagree there completely.
89 Anders said at 1:03 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I remember the opposite, but do you have any concrete example? Because when I watched him, he didnt have a good deep ball (I say worse than Foles, but better than Sanchez)
90 Mitchell said at 1:48 PM on April 14th, 2015:
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=256527&gif=UnimportantSmoothKissingbug
I think this is an example of a real smooth toss, which was laid right into the hands of the receiver. Grayson was able to step right into it and deliver big time. Its about a 50 yard pass.
I think this is what you are talking about:
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=256527&gif=ThankfulWhichDogwoodtwigborer
I couldn’t get the whole thing to load but on the replay the ball hits the receiver right on the hands and it is against Eric Rowe. If the ball was too slow Rowe would have been able to break on it and break it up. Like I said, the receiver drops it, Rowe doesn’t get to it.
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=253962&gif=ThriftyGleefulHornbill
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=253962&gif=VerifiableInfantileBaldeagle
This is just fun to see how far he can throw it!
91 Mitchell said at 1:56 PM on April 14th, 2015:
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=253962&gif=VerifiableSizzlingBluefish
I mean, how many times have we seen a player run open like this and our QB can’t get him the ball? This is a beautiful throw.
92 Anders said at 2:01 PM on April 14th, 2015:
That last throw is a throw that really turns me off. Just off target, into double coverage….
The Eric Rowe throw is better than his 2nd throw in the San Jose game.
It also seems his Utah game was better than the other games I watched.
Maybe CSU didnt run those routes, but I really didnt see many deep or medium breaking routes that we love to throw and in my view Grayson struggled with the short out routes and those are often the best to see arm strength (I do not think deep passes down the middle shows enough because the out routes requires less air but more velocity to avoid CBs breaking on them).
As I said, I wouldnt mind Grayson after the 4th at all, I just think arm talent is not one of is strengths and unless you are Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, you need a certain arm strength to be a good QB.
93 Mitchell said at 2:43 PM on April 14th, 2015:
The last throw was a bail out, he just chucked it up for his man to make a play. It was simply to display that he can chuck it. Agree to disagree. Grayson in the 2nd is much to early but I would take him in the third.
94 Anders said at 2:17 AM on April 15th, 2015:
Agree its better than them, but neither has enough for me. Foles with good footwork has enough for me and he has better velocity than Grayson
95 Mitchell said at 10:49 AM on April 15th, 2015:
Well, everyone complained that Foles didn’t have the arm strength coming out of college and he seemingly improved upon it with more footwork technique.
96 Anders said at 2:26 AM on April 16th, 2015:
With Grayson his footwork seems fine, it just seems his arm motion isnt effecient enough.
97 Mitchell said at 9:19 AM on April 16th, 2015:
He does has nice footwork. Very springy and on the balls of his feet. He has a gliding motion.
98 Anders said at 3:43 AM on April 17th, 2015:
yea his footwork is nice, but that also means he cant improve that much to improve his velocity like Foles did.
99 Mitchell said at 8:47 AM on April 17th, 2015:
Good thing he doesn’t need to improve that much.
100 Anders said at 2:21 AM on April 15th, 2015:
For me that motion is a part of it. If he can only throw deep with that crappy Wind up, he will have problems in the NFL because he simply wont have the Space in the pocket to Wind it up like that.
I know I critizise his arm, but its only my only real issue. Does he sometimes take too many sacks? Yes, but I do not think its the worst thing in the World.
101 eagleyankfan said at 9:27 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Unless he’s Dick Grayson’s son, I’m not interested.
102 lewis don said at 9:35 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Haha. Cant say I know who Dick Grayson is. I think you are either referring to a old character from a movie, or a football player I have never heard of.
If my memory serves me right, I think Dick Grayson is the guy in the yellow suit. but im not sure.
But I think he isn’t an interesting pick. But neither was Tom Brady.
I remember people were comparing Tom Brady to Trent Dilfer, and called him lucky, and said it was the defense helping him and then they beat the greatest show on turf.
Cant predict them all, but imam go on a limb for Grayson. I think he has the right stuff.
Take a gander at his tape.
103 eagleyankfan said at 10:14 AM on April 14th, 2015:
He’s the Robin to Batman 😉
104 sonofdman said at 10:14 AM on April 14th, 2015:
oops. beat me by a couple seconds.
105 lewis don said at 10:20 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Robins name is Dick Grayson!
OOOOHHH The Flying Graysons!
The boy from the family killed by either two-face or the penguin or the joker or somethin like that.
I was thinking of Dick Tracy.
(shoulda used google)
This is why I don’t do drugs.
106 sonofdman said at 10:14 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Dick Grayson was a boy who liked wearing tights and had an unnaturally close relationship to Bruce Wayne.
107 BreakinAnklez said at 12:18 PM on April 14th, 2015:
The yellow suit is Dick Tracy
108 Mitchell said at 9:56 AM on April 14th, 2015:
What don’t you like about him?
109 eagleyankfan said at 10:13 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I’m not overly impressed with his competition in college. I mean it’s ok and he did well as he should. I’m not saying he’s a bad playing kid. Eagles have holes/needs. I’d prefer we either move up to get a QB(doubt it) or we wait until after 4 rounds for a development QB. I’d be surprised if the Eagles take a QB rounds 2/3/4.
110 peteike said at 12:21 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Ive liked this kid for a while prior to off season. I live in CO and hear about it him a lot on local radio. Knew there would be interest but hes flying up the boards. I didnt realize he was as mobile as he is, thought he was more of statue pocket passer so didnt think he was a fit here for CK. Im glad I was wrong, I just never bothered to watch his tape or anything, just kept hearing his name. I think hes as good a project as QBs 3 and 4 and if you can get him as a value pick in the right spot its worth a shot.
111 lewis don said at 12:29 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Yeah, I didn’t check his measureables until I read the report on him. I am assuming that means he will project to be a pass-first QB with the capacity to run, rather than a Cam Newton, M.Vick, RG 3, when he first came in the league.
Somewhere between Russel Wilson and Andrew Luck mobility would work just fine in this offense.
All you need is 4 yards per play for an unstoppable offense.
112 botto said at 12:39 PM on April 14th, 2015:
he looks like he has a rocket arm
113 Anders said at 8:21 AM on April 14th, 2015:
http://www.footballperspective.com/the-safety-championship-belt-part-ii/
“1971-1972: Bill Bradley, Philadelphia Eagles
At the University of Texas, Bradley was a running quarterback and punter before moving to defensive back. That position was a natural fit for Bradley, who would become the best safety in the NFL during the early ’70s. In 1971, he led the NFL with 11 interceptions and 248 return yards, and was a first-team All-Pro choice by the Associated Press, Pro Football Writers, and Pro Football Weekly (the NEA selected Rick Volk and Paul Krause that year). In ’72, Bradley’s nine interceptions led the league, and he was a unanimous first-team All-Pro selection (AP, PFW, PFW, and NEA). Bradley would make the Pro Bowl in ’73, but his career arc had peaked in ’72.”
Is it sad that I really had no idea who Bradley was? I be honest, I really cant name any Eagles from before Buddy Ryan era except the HoF types
114 ACViking said at 9:41 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Bradley was a school-boy legend from Palestine, Texas. Never found a position at the University of Texas. (UT installed the wishbone the season after Bradley left. He’d have been a natural in that offense.)
But was still a 3rd round pick.
115 Anders said at 12:29 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Any reason why he didnt last? Injuries? or just Michael Lewis syndrom?
116 GEAGLE said at 8:42 AM on April 14th, 2015:
The Chargers are conducting a private workout in Eugene with Oregon QB Marcus Mariota Tuesday.-roto
117 eagleyankfan said at 9:28 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Jesse James — now THERE’s a jersey I’d buy.
118 GEAGLE said at 10:24 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Ordering Kiko
119 eagleyankfan said at 10:25 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I think I’m with you on that one. I can’t wait to see this kid take the field.
120 GEAGLE said at 10:46 AM on April 14th, 2015:
its funny how so many people rip chips offseason, but from a talent perspective, he significantly improved a handful of positions. We have the “potential” to be a drastically improved Team:
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1) Sam vs. Foles… in terms of ability and talent, you probably cant put any young QB over Sam besides Luck and possibly wilson… Sam is a very talented kid that chip will get to work with.. On Paper, we have to say this is an upgrade. of course he can get hurt and it mean nothing, but Foles has as much chance at getting hurt playing behind the Rams slop OL…UPGRADE
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2) Murray vs. Shady, last two NFL rushing leaders. we have to respect both and call that a Tie.. But to get two thousand yard rusher(Marco and Ryan) for the price of Shady, and they happen to be a better fit for what Chip wants to do, we have to call this an UPGRADE
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3) Kiko is an Upgrade to Meco at 31…UPGRADE
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4) Maxwell vs. Cary….UPGRADE
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5) Nolan/Walter Thurmand vs. Brad Fletch.. UPGRADE
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6) 32yr old Trent Cole vs. BG getting extended minutes??? EVEN? cole is better in his prime, but I dont know that i can consider losing a 33yr old a downgrade… call it even I guess
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7) Miles Austin is an upgrade on Offense to Brad Smith. The WR we got from the Chargers is an upgrade in special Teams over Brad(or tie in ST).. UPGRADE
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8) Maclin vs Huff…. DOWNGRADE. Im sure we will add a WR, and maybe they can be better down the road, but we cant realistically say that we are better next year without Maclin… so Downgrade…
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9) Herremans vs. Barbre/rookie?.. In his prime Todd would be the better player, but at his age, with injuries piling up, unlike Maclin, I think we have a shot at upgrading Herremans in the draft. we could get a player that will be better then What herremans would have been this year, but Herremans needed to be axed no matter what anyway so I will say UPGRADE, because I cant view this as a bad move
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so when looking at 9 position changes, 7 clear talent upgrades, 1 tie(lateral move).. 1 position got weaker (Maclin)… Losing Nate or James Casey doesnt matter enough to me……we have a chance at being an absolutely improved team. we are better on paper. we just have to hope that A) we keep our upgrades healthy and on the field, and B) the new players gel with our coaches and team mates, chip has done a good job of picking character that fit for the most part.. and he is smart enough to keep injured Mufasa, well respected league wide to help transition so many new faces…. between Free agency and the Draft, we could carry almost 15-20 new players next year, and people wonder why we are paying to keep injured Demeco..
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121 Avery Greene said at 10:53 AM on April 14th, 2015:
I agree, but when you break it down bit by bit, it seems significant. I really want to see Kendricks/Kiko wrecking shop this season. I think we’ll see less dime and more nickel since you have both LBs that can do what they want. Sports Science needs to keep these guys healthy because they will make our secondary better.
Outside of that we haven’t upgraded or downgraded the Safety spot, so that remains to be seen. I’m figuring if they def get a WR and G in this draft (starting quality), anything else is money. I’m still hoping Wolff or Watkins locks down the S spot.
122 GEAGLE said at 11:36 AM on April 14th, 2015:
havent given up hope on watkins and wolff either… by now, i assume Wolff knows the scheme like the back of his hands… we finally found out what was really wrong with him, so im hoping he got the right treatment and is ready to put the injuries behind him…If he plays 16 games, and knows the defense inside out, he should be able to play fast and unleash a ton of athletic ability in which case I would like to think at the very least he can perform at Nate’s level, if not hopefully much better…
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we also improve that safety position a bit by drastically improving the CB playing on his side..Byron Maxwell shouldnt need as much safety help as Cary needed to succeed….
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hopefully watkins and Wolff battle produces a quality starter
123 Anders said at 2:40 PM on April 14th, 2015:
My dream is that we have Watkins, Q-Roll and Wolff battle for safety
I hope the secondary could look like this
CBs: the Byrons (Maxwell and Jones), Thurmond, Boykin and Caroll
Safety: Jenkins, Wolff, Watkins, Rollins, Maragos.
124 OregonDucker said at 12:38 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Avery – Safety can be upgraded if they get a 3 Sigma athlete with Deon Sanders speed.
125 Avery Greene said at 1:11 PM on April 14th, 2015:
That doesn’t sound easy.
126 OregonDucker said at 1:44 PM on April 14th, 2015:
It’s not but Byron Jones fits the bill. Although he is frequently listed as a CB.
127 Anders said at 1:45 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I prefer Jones at CB and then take Rollins as safety.
128 370HSSV 0773H said at 10:10 AM on April 14th, 2015:
This is the problem I have with all this “misinformation” that goes on at this time of year – anybody can say anything and it can be interpreted many different ways. There never seems to be any logic or reasoning behind any rumors, except it gives reporters something to write about. Andy Reid drafted guys that never made a visit to Novacare or who he interviewed – and look how that “misinformation” turned out. Thank god nobody figured out Andy’s master plan and jumped ahead of us to grab Danny Watkins!
129 Bert's Bells said at 10:47 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Watkins was just a cog in Reid’s master plan to get fired, hired by KC and sign Jeremy Maclin to an Andy Reid sized contract.
130 eagleyankfan said at 11:31 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Who was that great QB AR moved up in round 2 to grab? Kolb! Oh that’s right. Sweet move!
131 Bert's Bells said at 12:01 PM on April 14th, 2015:
That was a small step in getting Bradford under center.
132 Greg Richards said at 12:38 PM on April 14th, 2015:
They didn’t move up in Round 2, they moved down from their Round 1 pick.
133 eagleyankfan said at 1:08 PM on April 14th, 2015:
quite right. I knew it was a move, I had the wrong direction…
134 370HSSV 0773H said at 7:28 PM on April 14th, 2015:
It’s hard to argue with your logic!
135 GEAGLE said at 10:50 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Howard Eskin had to draft for the Eagles on the NFL network Mock draft…. guess who the Burger king Mascott’s twin ended up picking?………..
136 Avery Greene said at 10:55 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Landon Collins.
BTW – I love how he trashes the Sixers and doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about.
137 GEAGLE said at 10:57 AM on April 14th, 2015:
“The Best Safety in the draft” lol…the safety college QBs picked on. Need to throw against the Alabama defense? look for Landon Collins, and Throw to whoever he was matched up against…..
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sounds like the 20th pick in the draft, let alone a scheme fit to play in our Defense?
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amazing how clueless he is.. Id rather listen to angelo Cataldi…and thats bad
138 Avery Greene said at 11:35 AM on April 14th, 2015:
Angelo’s show makes my head hurt.
139 GEAGLE said at 1:39 PM on April 14th, 2015:
at least he knows he is clueless… Eskin thinks he knows what he is talking about
140 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:09 PM on April 14th, 2015:
A few days ago he linked a NYT article that had the headline “How low can the Sixers go” as a way to trash the Sixers. He didn’t even bother reading the article. It was actually supporting what the Sixers were doing.
141 Avery Greene said at 2:16 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I know, that was what I was referring to.
BTW – here’s something someone posted to reddit.
http://streamable.com/czik
142 Tdoteaglefan said at 5:33 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Didn’t know about that article before I saw you mention it, just checked it out, very interesting read…thanks
143 peteike said at 12:29 PM on April 14th, 2015:
man, every morning I have to hear nonsense on NFL network about the Eagles. Seems like they are wrong or just dont have enough info on the team every time they discuss them, kinda funny really. I dont mind them being objective or even negative, it just seems misinformed.
144 GEAGLE said at 1:39 PM on April 14th, 2015:
its even worse tho when local media like Derreck Gunn go on CSN Philly and tell fans we are drafting Landon….
145 Joe Minx said at 1:40 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Saw a report that we worked out Kevin Rodgers of Henderson State. Great D2 QB. Anyone have any scouting information on him?
146 Avery Greene said at 2:28 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Just as a heads up, Sheil and Tim have the latest update on the draft prospect tracking.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/04/14/eagles-2015-pre-draft-prospect-tracker/
147 Avery Greene said at 3:02 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Question for the board. I was looking at the draft prospect tracker posted on Sheil’s site and I was wondering what people thought about this short list and the chances of this player ending up as an Eagles pick starting in Rd. 3. I don’t follow the tapes or have any idea how these guys measure up with the Eagles system, but the Eagles do have interest in all of these guys as some either met with privately or came in for a workout. So obviously these guys are a bit higher on the list of guys they haven’t met with.
Donovan Smith (6’6, 338) OL
Obum Gwacham (6-5, 246) OLB
Terry Poole (6-5, 307) OL
Jesse James (6-7, 261) TE
RJ Harris (6’0, 201) WR
Brian Blechen (6’2, 226) S
Jeremiah Poutasi (6’5, 335) OL
Visesio Salt (6’2, 326) OL
Julian Wilson (6’2, 205) CB
Chaz Green (6’5, 314) OL
Adrian Amos (6’0, 218) S
Blake Bell (6’6, 252) TE
Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil (6’2, 248) ILB
Devante Davis (6’3, 220) WR
BJ McBryde (6’5, 292) DT/DE
Ryan Russell (6’4, 269) DE
148 Mitchell said at 3:59 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I like Devante Davis quite a bit. Late rounder, maybe 6th-7th. Obviously a huge mofo but needs work on route running. He ran a 4.53 but I think he pulled up due to injury. Regardless he is the perfect replacement for Pooper. I think he is better at contested balls than Pooper and a great blocking force. I don’t think he plays right away but if we get him this year, he could easily be the 4th guy out for next year. Good at back shoulder throws as well. He’s got some snagability to his game.
149 Avery Greene said at 4:06 PM on April 14th, 2015:
That’s worth a late pick IMO. I like his size too.
150 Avery Greene said at 8:47 AM on April 15th, 2015:
I like that size as well, and CK does have his measurables.
151 D3FB said at 5:08 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Smith and Poutasi are both monsters who can move a little. I don’t really see how they fit in the scheme and attribute the interest to the Michael Bamiro idea of finding a physically huge human being who flashes some athleticism and maybe with a year of S&C you make those flashes more consistent. I think other teams will value them higher than we will with their project status for our scheme, but they are poking around in case they fall. (Frankly I think these guys are more misdirection)
Gwacham is a recently converted WR who has some intriguing HWS as a late day 3/UDFA project.
Poole does nothing for me. No strength. Doesn’t sustain punch. Plays too high. Doesn’t move well. Camp body
James is a HWS guy who probably should have stayed in school. Raw as a blocker and route runner, hands need work. But has all the traits
Harris is a high productive FCS guy. Consensus seems to be a depth/ST type. UDFA.
Chaz Green is intriguing. Never really cemented himself for Florida, but has some upside as a zone blocking type. Understand angles. Not a bad day 3 developmental guy.
The three guys I really like on that list are Blechen, Amos, and Bell
Blechen was a 3 star QB coming out of HS. 4 year starter at S for Utah. Tore ACL in 2013, came back and was named captain (Rowe wasn’t a captain) so that speaks to the respect of his teammates. He’s a poor mans Deone Buchannon. Utah used him as a hybrid S/LB his junior year, where he would line up in the box behind the LB’s. Would be a nickel LB/special teams standout for us. Late day 3/UDFA.
Amos is a highly touted Baltimore kid. Played CB his first 3 years. Moved to S as a senior. Played very conservative as his running mates at the positions were a true freshman and walkons. Still adjusting to position switch but obviously has some size and his history as a corner obviously fits a skill set which we crave at the position. 4th/5th.
Bell was in and out of the starting QB position in 2013 (and was used situationally before that in the “Belldozer” package), lost job to Trevor Knight. Decided to move to TE to help the team. Has decent athleticism. Can be a threat up the slot or on dumpoffs in the flat (think how Celek is used). Displays soft hands. Completely mentally overwhelmed as a blocker, doesn’t seem to understand how players will react to movement occurring behind him, and more of an effort guy with some strength than remotely polished in this area. I think he’s a guy who we could afford to sit for a year or two and could develop into a very nice Y-TE.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/blake-bell-vs-oklahoma-state-2014/
152 Avery Greene said at 8:46 AM on April 15th, 2015:
Awesome feedback, thanks.
153 GEAGLE said at 3:15 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 20: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B)
Round 2 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
Round 4 Pick 1 (TENN): Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (B)
Round 4 Pick 14: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 9: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A)
Round 5 Pick 20: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1 (TENN): Shaquille Riddick, DE/OLB, West Virginia (B-)
Round 6 Pick 20: Zach Wagenmann, DE/OLB, Montana (B-)
Round 7 Pick 20: Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA (A-)
154 Javi Echie said at 3:34 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Love the 1st four picks brotha, i like every pick but those top 4 i like alot. Would be ecstatic if Rowe somehow fell to the 4th, doubt it but damn would that be awesome.
155 GEAGLE said at 3:48 PM on April 14th, 2015:
they would have to take perrimen if he fell to 20… speed/size combo to play outside, leave Jordan in the slot… problem is i think he will go closer to #10 then #20
156 Javi Echie said at 3:58 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Yea man i agree. I can only imagine what Chip could do with a receiver like Perrimen, his YAC ability is tremendous. I’ve been watching more of Agholor lately and came away very impressed, he is a smooth route runner with good speed and hands, looks alot like J-Mac on tape. Wouldnt mind him as a conselation prize.
157 GEAGLE said at 7:41 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Perfectly happy with either… Could use Devin Smiths deep threat game. mcshay calls him Torrey holt with better hands, Torry and the greatest show on turf would have been awesome in a chip offense
158 Media Mike said at 7:43 PM on April 14th, 2015:
You sure he didn’t mean Torrey Smith with better hands?
159 b3nz0z said at 4:51 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 22 (PITT): Alvin Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
Round 4 Pick 14: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 4 Pick 22 (PITT): Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon (A)
Round 5 Pick 9: Markus Golden, OLB/ILB, Missouri (A)
Round 5 Pick 20: Anthony Harris, SS/FS, Virginia (C+)
Round 6 Pick 20: Austin Hill, WR, Arizona (A)
Round 7 Pick 20: Josh Robinson, RB, Mississippi St. (A-)
Your Future Picks:
2016 Round 1 Pick
2017 Round 1 Pick
160 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:55 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Does that mean you trade down two spots and get 2 future 1st rounders? Boy this site is more unrealistic than madden.
161 b3nz0z said at 4:57 PM on April 14th, 2015:
i think it just means i didn’t trade my future picks. i traded down twice to get the extra second third and fourth. yes, the site is preposterous
162 Media Mike said at 6:25 PM on April 14th, 2015:
That’s as good as of a mock as I’ve seen. Yes please.
163 MagsDaffyDilly said at 3:23 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Airplane! Funniest airplane/airport disaster movie parody ever!
Spaceballs was an attempt to do the same with Star Wars/Planet of the Apes/Dune etc. but was not quite as funny. Tried a little too hard.
164 botto said at 3:26 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Airplane as the funniest airport disaster movie parody?
better then the other ones?
165 b3nz0z said at 4:29 PM on April 14th, 2015:
wtf did you just say about spaceballs
166 Nailed it! said at 3:40 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 29 (IND): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (B)
Round 2 Pick 20: Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 2 Pick 29 (IND): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (C+)
Round 3 Pick 29 (IND): David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (A)
Round 4 Pick 14: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (C-)
Round 5 Pick 9: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 20: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 20: Brock Hekking, DE/OLB, Nevada (C+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Dres Anderson, WR, Utah (A)
167 Nailed it! said at 3:50 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I do not know what Indy was doing offering three picks however.
168 Media Mike said at 6:25 PM on April 14th, 2015:
#Grigsonproblems
169 Brian Pillion said at 4:33 PM on April 14th, 2015:
In today’s mocking the mock draft game game, I really took Chip’s purported philosophy of more draft picks being better than less draft picks to heart:
Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 21 (CINN): Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B+)
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi State (A)
Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (A+)
Round 3 Pick 10 (NYG): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (B)
Round 3 Pick 14 (N.O.): Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State (B)
Round 3 Pick 19 (S.D.): David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (A-)
Round 3 Pick 20: Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (CINN): Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (C+)
Round 3 Pick 26 (BALT): Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (B-)
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (D+)
Round 3 Pick 32 (N.E.): Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (B)
Round 4 Pick 14: Shaquille Riddick, DE/OLB, West Virginia (D)
Round 5 Pick 9: Obum Gwacham, DE, Oregon State (F)
Round 5 Pick 20: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (B-)
Round 5 Pick 22 (BALT): Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma (B)
Round 6 Pick 20: Dres Anderson, WR, Utah (C+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (A+)
170 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:51 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Boy that is a ridiculously good draft. It misses a better WR prospect to be perfect though.
171 Brian Pillion said at 6:24 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Yeah, I think that the combination of how off their big board is and the ridiculousness of the trade offers leaves the exercise pretty pointless. Their system is way too easy to hinkie.
172 Nu_B said at 4:57 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Pretty much broke the game on this one. For your consideration…
Round 1 Pick 16 (HOU): Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1 (TENN): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (A)
Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 2 (TENN): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26 (BALT): T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 14: Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (A-)
Round 4 Pick 23 (BALT): Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville (A)
Round 5 Pick 9: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 20: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 20: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A)
173 b3nz0z said at 4:58 PM on April 14th, 2015:
you found Rowe in the 4th?!
174 sonofdman said at 4:59 PM on April 14th, 2015:
He also got Clemmings in the 3rd and Humphries late in the 2nd.
175 sonofdman said at 5:00 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Did you trade next year’s picks to move up in the first and second rounds?
176 Nu_B said at 5:02 PM on April 14th, 2015:
2017 1st with our 3rd and 7th this year for Houston’s 1st (16) which is obviously ridiculous fantasy but felt good to get Beasley anyway
177 sonofdman said at 5:03 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Ok, and then you traded back with our original 1st round pick?
178 Nu_B said at 5:05 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Yup, twice in fact (to 24, then to the top of the 2nd) I was working those boards like Howie
179 GEAGLE said at 5:08 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Give my arm to be siting pretty like the Titans… world at their feet,, everyone making crazy offers, multiple 1st rounders from Browns, possibly Phillip Rivers,.. maybe trade up for Jets…..they are going to hit the lottery and come away with a power move to build their franchise….
..
we should have tanked the damn Giants game…
180 Nu_B said at 5:09 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Always have to play to win, especially against the Giants
181 GEAGLE said at 5:12 PM on April 14th, 2015:
should have played Barkley… every coach has the right to look at young players once you get eliminated…
182 anon said at 5:47 PM on April 14th, 2015:
the problem is unlike other teams i think MB gets reps, he got second team reps for 8 games last year and 8 games the year before. It’s not like on other teams where he’s holding the clip board all practice so you never really know.
183 unhinged said at 5:26 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Whatever they do, don’t be surprised if they are still the fourth best team in their division. There is a reason they are picking so high, and it isn’t because they’re slick operators. Whisenhunt is sitting in a chair that is heating up as he breathes. I’m not so sure franchise building is his calling card.
184 GEAGLE said at 6:07 PM on April 14th, 2015:
gonna have a good defense..offense needs plenty work
185 botto said at 6:10 PM on April 14th, 2015:
never ever lose to the giants. ever
186 MichaelFloyd84 said at 7:24 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Fully blame Chip for that. That mindless play to win crap set the team back. I honestly can’t determine if he’s so dumb to not see the sizable benefit to losing that game or if he actually believes winning that game would somehow help some garbage long term mojo bullshit
187 unhinged said at 5:17 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Chip recently stated that Beckham was the best player in the draft last year. I’d like to know everybody’s prediction for who the best player in this draft will be.
188 Nu_B said at 5:19 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I’m expecting it’ll be Amari Cooper
189 unhinged said at 6:01 PM on April 15th, 2015:
I love Cooper’s smooth routes and big play. He will be fun to watch.
190 Javi Echie said at 5:25 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Dante Fowler
191 OldDocMcQuackadillyBlip said at 5:37 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Most valuable, Mariota, because QB.
Most talented, Kevin White, because awesome.
192 GEAGLE said at 5:39 PM on April 14th, 2015:
dante fowler
193 Media Mike said at 6:23 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Could very well be.
194 unhinged said at 5:57 PM on April 15th, 2015:
I think Fowler will be great, but I think Gregory will be special.
195 peteike said at 6:04 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Leonard Williams
196 GermanEagle said at 6:52 PM on April 14th, 2015:
KW [the WR].
197 Greg Richards said at 7:29 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Tony Washington.
198 A_T_G said at 8:51 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Landon Collins.
(I couldn’t resist).
199 unhinged said at 5:50 PM on April 15th, 2015:
If he goes to a decent defense, he could help, possibly. If he goes to a bad defense, I don’t think his play will wow anybody.
200 oreofestar said at 9:28 PM on April 14th, 2015:
devante Parker
201 unhinged said at 5:48 PM on April 15th, 2015:
I could see it.
202 Insomniac said at 9:43 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Kevin White
203 unhinged said at 5:47 PM on April 15th, 2015:
Pigeon-toed.
204 D3FB said at 9:53 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Bud Dupree
205 unhinged said at 5:47 PM on April 15th, 2015:
Squirrel arms.
206 GEAGLE said at 5:39 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 3 (OAK): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A-)
Round 2 Pick 9 (STL): Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami (Ohio) (B+)
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (A)
Round 3 Pick 4 (OAK): Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (A)
Round 4 Pick 14: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 9: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 29 (IND): Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (A-)
Round 6 Pick 20: Brandon Bridge, QB, South Alabama (B-)
Round 7 Pick 20: Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (B-)
Round 7 Pick 27 (IND): Tony Washington, OLB, Oregon (D-)
207 GEAGLE said at 6:13 PM on April 14th, 2015:
when people talk about the draft, how do people say stuff like, for example,. if the eagles want to trade up, first they trade up to #12, and then they trade up again to #2… when would that trade happen? you cant do it during the draft because he 2nd pick comes before the 12th pickl and normally during the draft u wait for a team to be on the clock to trade up….. so when would we hypoheticallky trade up to #12? the day before?> cant do it during he draft because #2 pick is on the clock before #12 is on the clock…. so if we are going to see a two part trade up, when we would see the 1st step to take place? when would the first trade up to #12 be announced? earlier during draft day, few days before? week before?
208 botto said at 6:18 PM on April 14th, 2015:
its easy.
you just have to do it really fast but in super slow motion.
I guess the trade to 12 would happen as soon as tampa picks Winston, trade done before Winston can grab the commissioners ass for a picture.. trade up to 2 right away…
it would have to be a pretty done deal before hand though I would think.
one caveat is: it aint happening
209 GEAGLE said at 6:23 PM on April 14th, 2015:
when has a trade up ever been announced during the draft when the team isnt on the clock? we never heard a trade up announced to #12, when the !st or 2nd team are on the clock
210 botto said at 7:05 PM on April 14th, 2015:
its tough because we wouldn’t do the trade if tampa takes mariota right?
unless we are trading up for someone else but we wouldn’t be going to 2 for someone else either.
doesn’t matter, its Bradford or bust
211 anon said at 6:19 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Yeah i think combo trades are worked out before the draft. you have time to make two phone calls in the 5+ minutes between picks, i don’t think you’d negotiate them real time.
212 GEAGLE said at 6:30 PM on April 14th, 2015:
best thing I like about Miles Austin is its ONLY right that we get him a TD against Dallas in Dallas since Jerry Jones is paying him something crazy like 5 mil this year while he plays against him twice lol…
213 botto said at 8:47 PM on April 14th, 2015:
that would be awesome
214 Donald Kalinowski said at 6:32 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly takes Bryce Petty if he’s available in the 2nd round or trades up for him if he makes it to the 3rd.
215 Media Mike said at 6:39 PM on April 14th, 2015:
SUCH a better option than all of this nonsense Hundley talk.
216 peteike said at 6:56 PM on April 14th, 2015:
forget both, take Grayson later if hes still there
217 Media Mike said at 6:40 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Welcome to my Super Bowl Party!
Round 1 Pick 29 (IND): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Damarious Randall, FS, Arizona State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A)
Round 2 Pick 29 (IND): Hau’oli Kikaha, OLB/DE, Washington (B+)
Round 3 Pick 20: Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
Round 4 Pick 14: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 9: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A)
Round 5 Pick 20: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (A+)
Round 6 Pick 20: Zach Wagenmann, DE/OLB, Montana (B-)
Round 7 Pick 20: Deon Simon, DT, Northwestern St. (B-)
218 GermanEagle said at 6:50 PM on April 14th, 2015:
What if the Eagles traded up…and choose Vic Beasley?! #SportsScience
219 Media Mike said at 6:52 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Then we’d further question what we’re going to with Graham re-signed, Barwin here long-term, and “first rounder” Marcus Smith in the mix.
220 GermanEagle said at 6:53 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I know. Was just watching ESPN Sports Science and that dude is a beast.
221 Sydney Eagle said at 7:41 PM on April 14th, 2015:
If randy gregory falls, do you consider him at 20?
222 Media Mike said at 7:42 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Yes
223 GermanEagle said at 8:52 PM on April 14th, 2015:
No. Love his talent. But I wouldn’t touch an addict [similar with Josh Gordon].
224 unhinged said at 5:45 PM on April 15th, 2015:
If it were my call, I’d bet on Gregory. If he is an practicing addict, he knows he will miss more games than he plays, and this kid has something to prove. I think he’d be the steal of the draft at 20.
225 GermanEagle said at 7:33 AM on April 16th, 2015:
Don’t you think Gordon knew all this?
226 SuPaFrO said at 7:02 PM on April 14th, 2015:
First time. Harder than i thought!
Round 2 Pick 6 (WASH): Jake Fisher, OT/OG, Oregon (A-)
Round 2 Pick 9 (STL): Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B-)
Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (C+)
Round 3 Pick 32 (N.E.): Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
Round 4 Pick 12 (CLE): Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (B-)
Round 4 Pick 25 (CAR): Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (B)
Round 5 Pick 9: Brandon Bridge, QB, South Alabama (D+)
Round 5 Pick 11 (CLE): Christian Covington, DT, Rice (A-)
Round 5 Pick 20: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 25 (CAR): Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (B-)
Round 6 Pick 17 (K.C.): Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (D+)
Round 6 Pick 20: Obum Gwacham, DE, Oregon State (D)
Round 6 Pick 25 (CAR): Bryan Bennett, QB, Southeastern Louisiana (D)
Round 7 Pick 16 (K.C.): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Tayo Fabuluje, OT/OG, TCU (D+)
Recieved a B+
:l
227 Media Mike said at 7:04 PM on April 14th, 2015:
You need to leave Bridge under a bridge and off of our roster, but good work otherwise.
228 SuPaFrO said at 7:54 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Ha i kinda just started picking “randomly” towards the end. I had forgotten i had bridge or else i wouldn’t have gotten Bennett lol.
Thanks anyways!
229 SuPaFrO said at 7:56 PM on April 14th, 2015:
So many players i wanted were picked right before me. >. <
230 ian_no_2 said at 7:43 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I like Bennett too. The question is whether to draft a guy who is probably going to the PS, and could be picked up by a team that wants him too.
231 GEAGLE said at 8:11 PM on April 14th, 2015:
No idea how any team can draft Winston and make him the face of their franchise. I would never be able to trust that kid. Don’t know what it is, but whenever he talks, I can’t help
But to think, this kid is full of shit… Reminds me of Iverson/Mike Vick who perfected the art of telling you what you want to hear, but actions don’t end up matching the words… Whenever I see this kid talk, I can’t help but to think he is a fraud. He is a quality talent, hopefully I’m wrong and he goes on to have a great career and stays out of trouble, but I would never be able to trust him as a GM, just get a real bad feeling from him…
…
BTW…hope the Chargers get Melvin Gordon, don’t want him landing in dallas
232 GermanEagle said at 8:25 PM on April 14th, 2015:
Comparing Winston with AI is an insult to the answer.
233 botto said at 8:45 PM on April 14th, 2015:
thank you!
234 GermanEagle said at 9:07 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I will never forget these nba finals. Sixers should have won.
235 botto said at 9:08 PM on April 14th, 2015:
they had game 2 and game 3 in their grasp.
that was tough.
but the playoffs leading up to it were unreal.
game 1 in LA was just one amazing night
236 GermanEagle said at 9:09 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I remember being up in the middle of the night in Germany to watch all games live.
237 botto said at 9:16 PM on April 14th, 2015:
I was living in socal and the next morning everyone was crying like babies because the lakers hadn’t lost in like 19 games.
they had never seen a team play like those sixers did so much hussle and defense and AI killin’ ’em
238 GEAGLE said at 7:18 AM on April 15th, 2015:
comparing the nonsense that comnes out of their mnouth… big difference pal
239 A_T_G said at 9:10 PM on April 14th, 2015:
A team can draft him by convincing themselves that they haven’t been relevant in over a decade, that in parts of the country a team in another sport that isn’t even called the Bucaneers is the first one people associate with the nickname Bucs, and that you don’t want a safe pick that gets you almost to .500 for a few years before leaving for greener pastures. They convince themselves to roll the dice.
Of course, all the systemic problems that led to this point still exist, so the dice are heavily weighted towards snake eyes.
240 unhinged said at 5:38 PM on April 15th, 2015:
Winston’s status/place in the draft will depend LARGELY on his interviews. His televised one-on-one with Marriuchi was impressive for his technical grasp and retention of a complex alignment. His idiocy off the field will have to be discussed in his interviews, and if he does not satisfactorily address his immaturity, he will probably drop and Lovie will listen to his friend Tony and take MM first.
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