Agholor Off To A Good Start
Posted: May 27th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 211 Comments »Nelson Agholor has only been an Eagle for about a month, but he is already impressing his teammates. Jordan Matthews had some good things to say about him yesterday.
“The one that’s going to obviously jump out is Nelson,” Matthews said. “You hear a lot of great things, but then when you actually get him out there on the field you see what type of guy he is [and] you’re like, ‘OK good kid, he gets it.’
“Instead of taking the regular rookie shuttle he takes a taxi to get here early to the facility. That’s a kid that gets it. That’s not a façade. That’s somebody who’s saying, ‘OK, I want to go here, get in the building early, I need to learn what I want to do and I want to go out and compete.”
Matthews, picked 42nd overall by the Eagles last year, leaned on veteran wideout Jeremy Maclin while he acclimated to his new surroundings. Now he’s become the same kind of resource for Agholor, who hasn’t hesitated to ask questions.
“He’s been really aggressive with his studying,” Matthews said. “He’s always hitting me up. If he needs like signals, if he needs information, he calls me whenever and we’re able to talk over it. We haven’t even gotten into how he is on the field. The kid is explosive. I’m not going to ruin it for everybody, I just want everybody to see how talented he is.”
We don’t know if Agholor is going to pan out (as we expect him to), but we do know the young man is doing all the right things to make himself successful. He’s showing the right attitude and doing things he can control in the right way. That doesn’t guarantee success, but it puts you in position to be successful.
I can’t wait to see him running around in an Eagles jersey and flashing the speed and skills that got him picked in the 1st round.
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Speaking of former USC receivers…Marqise Lee is having a tough time due to knee issues. He played in 13 games last year (8 starts) and was 37-422-1. The knee was a problem last year and is keeping him out of OTAs for now. Lee is the player that a lot of people thought the Eagles would draft in the 1st round last year. Luckily, Chip Kelly was focused on Jordan Matthews as his receiver of choice.
No reports on Marcus Smith from Eagles OTAs so far. He has bulked up by about 15 pounds, but we haven’t heard anything beyond that.
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Anyone miss this guy?
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I miss JJ. And the 4-3 defense.
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We talked a bit about Tim Tebow yesterday. Is he really an improved passer?
From what I’ve heard, there is a definite difference. He spent 12 to 15 months working on his motion. In the past, he worked on it for 3 to 4 months at a time. That’s all the down time there was between the end of one season and the beginning of the next. Since Tebow was out of the league entirely last year, he was able to really work on his motion.
The fact it is better doesn’t mean he’s an NFL quality passer. We have to see how he does throwing the ball as part of a team.
The other issue here is the mental side of things. Can he consistently make quick, smart decisions? In the past, Tebow was like so many other young QBs. He waited until someone was open and then got him the ball. Good QBs anticipate. They see things happen before they actually do. Most young QBs react. They wait for someone to be open. That’s fine in college, but isn’t going to work on a regular basis in the NFL.
I am genuinely curious to see how Tebow performs.
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WR John Harris is my favorite UDFA. I think he’s got a legit shot to win a roster spot. BGN covered him today and talked about how good a blocker he is.
That is one of his strengths and it does give him extra value to a team like the Eagles that is committed to running and values WRs who can really run block.
Here is the post I did on him a few weeks back. Fun player to watch.
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go berds !
Yeah, I really don’t say this about many rookies, but I think he is going to be doing some damn good things this year.
Agholor and Matthews are the anti-divas wide receivers. Almost rhymes, too.
Lol almost. What helps too is that Agholor is so much more Pro ready compared to most WR coming out of college. Much more then Mathews even was. I’m excited about the future with Mathews, Agholor, and yes Huff.
I think Mathews will be a very high end possession type receiver that will be very good for us in the end zone, and will deliver big plays at times.
Agholor will develops into a very versatile play maker for us making plays all over the field.
Huff may develop into a full time slot receiver which is where I like him. I think he is going to be absolutely dangerous on KR and PR. As of now I look at him as a versatile weapon that will be dangerous on screens or short throws breaking tackles and racking up yards after contact. Could also be an interesting end zone piece.
Good post. Wouldn’t it be great if Chip’s plan really works? Imagine a team, in the truest sense of the word — where all the players put the success of the team above their individual accomplishments. Imagine a group of athletes that we can admire as fine young men. Imagine a team where the guys are decent human beings and their success arises as a result of hard-work and sacrifice. Imagine them beating the crap out of all those other prima-donnas and spoiled cry-babys (DeSean was at the NBA playoffs instead of OTAs). Oh, you may say that I’m a dreamer…
as you know, Pats fans would tell you you just described the Pats. Did they tell you that they were announced as a team at the Rams SB? I really want to beat them so bad this year.
But im not the only one…
….but you’re not the only one…
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Thanks, I was hoping someone would say that.
Huff showed last year how dangerous he can be. He had some bad luck and nervous type of problems too. I am still uber excited about him.
Agree with that. He needs to work on his hands and ball handling. I think alot of his problems were due to nerves and frustration like you said. His injury also set him back a bit I think.
I just sat here and said
Agholor and matthews.
AGhoLOR and MATThews
AgHOlor and mattHEWS
NONE OF THESE RHYME WHAT THE HELL PPK.
And then I got it…
D3FB,
now you’ve got it, good for thee.
I won’t go out on a limb and say the same thing but I would give this 10 thumbs ups if I could.
Love Tebow!
Go Eagles!
TEBOW has improved his throwing motion in the past, problem has been that when live bullets start flying he reverts to his bad habbits..
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He is also allegedly a terrible practice player
Tommy touched on that, Tebow didnt have enough time to work on his mechanics.
Doubt he ever gets even good mechanics, but even with average mechanics, he should improve a lot
Yes I know… But he NEVER got to work on those mechanics and Implemenr them with Live Bullets flying, which has always been his problem….you can practice all you want, but until you strictly implement those mechanics under Fire, all the practice DOESNT matter….
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Lol if he wants to make the roster he should have to play all summer without the red jersey LOL, allowing our defenders to hit him, so he can implement the new mechanics under fire LOL…. That would be the best training camp ever… open season on TEBOW!!! “It’s for your own good Timmy”.. “Hang in there bud”….
I would hope a guy who has the Nickname Quarterback Whisperer would have means of imposing a game like sense of urgency in his drills.
“… It’s easy to sum it up when you’re just talking about practice. We’re sitting in here, and I’m supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about practice. I mean, listen, we’re talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice.”
I beg to differ. Practice matters.
true but that’s one of the best quotes ever.
well to be fair, that QB coach said this is the first time hes had enough practice to make the new motion second nature. He mentions how prior, without that time to make it second nature he would revert. I live out in Denver and can recall the circus fondly, the radio guys couldnt get over how bad he looked in practice, it was so so bad, at embarassing levels. Thats why he was out of football, not some perceived slight or collusion that some of his minions want to believe.
Yes I understand all that and I don’t dispute that thought process, but an extra year of practice doesn’t automatically mean it will be second nature to where his new mechanics hold up under fire..,
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Going to have to wait and see… Basically, there is nothing he can do in practice to impress me, I will be waiting for the preseason to see how his new throwing motion holds up under fire to start judging him… But he is a notorious poor practice player, so hopefully all this alleged new improvement has him playing better in practice… Yes, we talking about Practice!
let us compare Mr. Agholar’s drive to be the best to that of another eagles great: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/05/27/desean-jackson-watched-the-cavs-get-to-the-nba-finals-on-the-first-day-of-redskins-otas/
Love the last part about Jackson’s event. Chip would NOT like that.
Why didn’t he ever do that sort of thing here? Desean was a really hard worker here. Was it the contracts he was always in? Was it his respect for Reid and fear of Chip?
Did I just miss that he was skipping OTAs? I know for sure this is the second year in a row he has done it in DC.
They are “voluntary”. I don’t begrudge anybody for skipping them.
If I were in their shoes I wouldn’t, but that’s a different story.
Dan Snyder in DC has shown that it doesn’t how hard you practice if you put up good stats (like DeSean always does) you’re going to get paid. Going to OTC gets him nothing.
they are voluntary, but if you don’t go and your eventual opponent (or positional competitor) puts in more time than you have, it’s on you. and yes, the reason desean is doing that in dc and never in philly is because he’s aware of what behaviors will be tolerated.
Oh, yeah, there’s no way I’d skip out.
One writer made a great point about Brady and the suspension -he’s a guy who got his break because Bledsoe couldn’t play, you think he wants to give Garrapollo (sp) that same chance?
DeSean thinks his skill is irreplaceable. Maybe it is, but once he loses a gear he’ll be easily replaced if he doesn’t do everything else well (and he doesn’t).
desean seems to still suffer from what a lot of college players experience – they think talent (and desean has tons of talent) will always win out
Fairly replaceable.
2012 – 2 TDs
2011 – 4 TDs
2010 – 6 TDs
2008 – 2 TDs
In 2014, Maclin – 10 TDs,
Matthews – 8 TDs.(quiet, steady rookie)
Replaceable -to an extent -in a Chip Kelly offense. I don’t think they’re loading that caliber in DC.
I usually begrudge when they are skipped, unless a player is trying to get a deserved pay raise. I still don’t like those, but I don’t begrudge the player.
If I were Garcon or Griffin I would definitely begrudge him.
I begrudge them. I never liked the Sconces signing, but skipping OTAs on a new team showed his level of commitment to blend in and be the best player. He already thought he was the best.
He tied quite a bit of personal value into his role as a member of the Ravens’ championship defense – as if that was some sort of pedigree that would ensure success as an Eagle.
You go on the radio like a donkey coming off a 4-12yr and call yourself the “team to beat” in the division like a week ago, and now you are partying at NBA playoffs while your teammates are all working to improve and come together as a team? You are one of the better paid players on your team, why aren’t out there putting in work with all your teammates? Why aren’t you setting an example for the rookies and young players? Why aren’t you around to be a resource for all the young players who are trying to improve? Your JOB ISNT just to show up on Sunday…
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Unless He had an important reason, Voluntary or not, He should be Embarressed to not be there, any time other teammates are there putting in work… For as much as he gets paid, he should provide much much more then just showing up to produce on Gameday.
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malcolm Jenkins got paid, he had a good year, it’s no secret he doesn’t have to compete for a starting spot. I’m sure he knows the defense like the back of his hand, but you won’t be seeing him missing Any chance to work with his teammates over a basketball game or a social affair, he takes,his responsibility as a teammate setious and he makes sure to set an example for our young players while also being a resource to help grow our puppies
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Really disrespectful to your teammates to not be practicing with them to go to a basketball game… He should be embarressed to miss practice while veteran WR Garcon is working with the team…is RG3 so good that he can afford to miss some reps with desean?
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Im really starting to appreciate chip prioritizing team Charecter…
The Matthews comments are totally awesome. Not only because of what he is saying about Agholor, but because of the way he comes off. Matthews sounds like a 10 year vet. He sounds like a Jason Avant. I know I’m a crazy fan boy…but Matthews could be T.O with a heart of gold.
So excited about this group of receivers (all but one..). Not only do they have the potential to be better than any group from the past, but they seem like they could be the most likable group (except for one guy..). I always really liked Maclin and think he is a great person. He did frustrate me with his comments sometimes though.
Deep down inside I want Tebow to have become a real QB. As much as I have hated on that guy over the years for being lame I would totally buy in
I really like that Jordan seems to think Nelson will be an awesome weapon for us.. When talking about Agholor on the field, he said something Like “I don’t even want to tell you and spoil the surprise, you have to see him on the field for yourself”… I took that as “wait Til you see how talented this kid is” comment.,,
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I also like when he talks about how they won’t put labels on who is the #1, who is the #3… He said he Thinks people talking about the depth chart is nonsense “on the depth chart you see Sproles is the #3’RB” amf he laughed and said something like “I’m pretty sure Darren is going to be a much much bigger part of our offense then a #3 RB, he is one of our best weapons but he is listed as the #3 RB” trying to illustrate how misleading the depth chart numbers and Labels can be…
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I love our pass catching weapons. Agholor, Jordan, ERTZ are probably all more physical then Mac and Desean… Funny how dopes call chips offense “finesse”..Cooper, Huff, Celek, all those boys love contact
I’m no Cooper-hater (I predicted that Chip would re-sign him at a rate higher than many would be comfortable with), but the big thing I take out of the Agholor story is that he’s leaning on a guy who is in his 2nd year in Chip’s system and the NFL, over a guy who’s been in it 3 years, and been in the NFL longer than that.
Combined with the fact that Harris is apparently a great blocking WR, I could easily see Cooper dropping way down the depth chart. I think he’s going to be feeling a lot of heat this summer.
Hopefully he is feeling the cool breeze of the open area not inside the walls of Novacare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVGJLU6bE8
I clicked the link to BGN, then clicked on John Harris and it said he’s 115 years old. I think that’s too old…
wth is age not one of Chip’s measurables?
but he’s a rookie so the wear and tear will be minimal
Lotta tread left on those tires…
Every time I read the “John Harris” my stomach sinks a little. Sure, it’s a different spelling but can’t we change it to “Tre” or something.
fine. john tre might make the roster
Maybe he goes by “JH”.
would you rather draft a (guaranteed) probowler coincidentally named “terrell owens” or “danny watkins”
If JoHn Harris makes the Pro Bowl he’ll wipe away the tears shed over his predecessor.
went to college with him- he was a good dude. not his fault he was taken in the first round. up close he looked the part but even in college he was average at best. he should have been a last round pick and to me is one of the worse picks in history. but again, if he made money i’m happy for him as he was a good guy
No hatred towards the guy at all. Just the results of his NFL career.
I’m not one of those insane people who say viciously inappropriate and horrible things about strangers online. Unless they’re Cowboys fans -fuck those inbred wastrels.
That’s how I feel. These guys are just doing what they can. And I feel the same way about the Cowboys fans, and even add-in the Giants fans!
wahoowa
Since he is kind of a tough guy, blocking sort of WR, maybe we should call him Macho. Yep, Macho Harris. That should eliminate any confusion.
Remember when we had a great, dominating defense? Sigh.
RIP JJ
I miss the heck out of JJ too. One of my favorite Eagles of all-time. I don’t miss the 4-3 after him though.
I miss JJ a lot. I miss Bud Carson. I miss Buddy. I don’t miss the undersized high motor fastballs. I don’t miss the wide 9. Personally I like were the 3-4 is going. Press on the outside, mirrored middle, Chaos at the line. If we ever get a dominant OLB this is going to be super exciting.
JJ is hands down, my favorite coch that has ever worked in this city
Fred Shero. Two championships. Many quotes.
“Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must first set yourself on fire.”
Jackson, Jim (2004), Walking Together Forever: The Broad Street Bullies, Then and Now
I don’t read your posts… I know how to use Wikipedia too…. Thanks..
I still cant get past fat andy letting Trotter go in his prime .. and he saves some money instead of taking advantage of a premier MLB!!!! for a few bucks he has to be smarter than everyone and creates a problem instead of using a great MLB to … ahh why cyant I jus’ let it go !!!
If the secondary improves, we might have one next year
This time next year it will be obvious that we Are going into the 2016 as one of the top ranked defenses…. Health permitting, I wouldn’t bet against this defense earning national respect by the end of this season…
Thumbs up. If you think about a lot of really good defenses, they don’t always have marquee secondaries. Think of the recent Ravens Super Bowl winners. Ed Reed was there but he wasn’t the Reed of old.
Could just happen. Of course I am not counting any chickens.
That Ravens defense wasnt all that good either
If it gets worse, we might make opponents look like the Greatest Show on Turf.
Christ Chester to be released….
Is he a receiver? I bet him and Tebow would have great chemistry.
Christchester sounds like a BBC drama I’d mock… until accidentally catching an episode and getting hooked.
Oops. Wonder if auto correct got me.
I don’t miss the 4-3 defense, what with the huge gaping run holes (or was that just the wide-9?) so much as I miss a one-gap defense.
Yeah, the Wide-9 wasn’t one gap or two gap so much as lots and lots of gaps.
I’m still a year or two away from being able to laugh about that disaster.
Meh….on 3rd down we usually go to our 4 man lines, and do a,l the twisting and stunting, and one gapping that we miss from the 4-3 days…
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I love the 4-3under, but I think the best defense is one that can line up in a 3-4 on one play, and the next play we lineup in a 4 man line, which is our defense. We are capable of doing both, giving us the best of both worlds…
Late in 2012, I mentioned in a comment that I could see the Eagles going to a 3-4 under a new coach. The front-7 personnel were there with Cox and Thornton, Kendricks (who was an ILB in college) and DeMeco, and Graham and/or Curry moving to ROLB.
Tommy posted one of the funniest comments I’d ever seen him make, saying in essence he like the 4-3 much better.
Sounds like a bunch of dudes I really wouldn’t want to get a drink with.
Agholar has the Jerry Rice work ethic. Not to say he will be the next Jerry Rice, but it helps. Rice was the 16th pick.. so you never know. Natural talent is the biggest force for success but training and luck (with injuries) play a big role as well.
Jordan Matthews is Jerry Rices cousin, or second cousin or something
I think he is the third cousin and second coming of Jerry Rice.
Unfortunately Mathews won’t have the “stick um” on his gloves that jerry openly admitted using….
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I expect Jordan to be a monster this year. As good as he was as a rookie. I’m expecting a major year 2 leap similar to the beast year Alshon jeffries had in year two….. By the end of this season, I expect the Pope will be talked about like the big name WR from his draft class, Odell. Sammy, Evans, Landry….Jordan Mathews should be a great fantasy player this year because even if Bradford gets hurt, his numbers probably won’t suffer since he is the Sanchize’s man crush
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love That Ertz ended the year with a 15 reception game, and then hired a top blocking coach..ERTZ should be a BIGTIME weapon for us… I love Jordan Mathews and ERTZ In the redzone, with Murray in the backfield who was a monster in the Redzone last year, and send Sproles im motion as a WR, just because of how ‘much attention he gets from defenses. I want Sproles to be half decoy and half WRs Welker role in the ENDZONE
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Two of my favorite plays this year were the two TD catches Jordan had against the skins..
.. Assuming our OL remains in tact, I believe we finally have the pieces to be really strong in the REDZONE:
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Top redzone RB
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ERTZ, bad matchup for LB’s or safeties
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Another Big Body in the Pope
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Agholors crisp route running
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And when you use tempo In the redzone, Sproles is the most valuable weapon to have because defenses are always so focused on where he will lineup, that when we lineup so quickily, and keep moving Sproles around, defenses panic making sure he is accounted for
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OL remains in tact and we should have the weapons to become one of the strong redzone offenses
I like John Harris as a Josh Huff guy. Fast, great blocker, better hands catcher than Huff. However I like Devante Davis and Rasheed Bailey even more. They offer a lot more upside in pass catching and, well… fantasy points :).
I think people are discouting Josh Huff soooo much. To say a UDFA is going to come in and be an upgrade on Huff when we haven’t even seen them play in the NFL is a stretch.
I grew up watching Oregon Ducks football and they’re still easily my favorite team. Josh Huff is good. Nothing special but good. I like him.
Pretty much the worst WR in the league, by the numbers.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/41743/josh-huff
And by the numbers Sanchez is fantastic in the post season and all Tebow does is win. Huff will be a good receiver and I won’t hold a rookie season with injuries in the beginning against him. He showed us he could be an asset in special teams and great as an RAC threat. In college he was also pretty darn good with the deep ball. Was he up and down last year? Sure but I’m gonna wait at least till the end of this year, maybe next to make any judgements.
For all these young WRs, I’m really interested to see their explosiveness in and out of cuts.
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One thing I realized watching Jerry Rice is how much more important explosiveness in and out of cuts is compared to straight-away speed.
In the hard-to-forget 1989 Eagles v. 49ers game at the Vet — when SF put up 28 points in the 4th Q (and exposed, as SF routinely seemed to do, Buddy’s in-game decisions and 46 scheme) — Jerry Rice caught a 68-yard TD early in the game.
There’s an NFL films shot from above the field of the play (and all the other Montana highlights of that awesome — when the Eagles were up 21-10 and 28-17 in the 4th Q — and then ultimately miserable afternoon.)
Anyway, Rice — using his 4.65 (or whatever it was) speed runs straight at Izel Jenkins. After about 12 yards, Rice explodes off his right foot and cuts to the post — seeming to pick up speed out of the cut.
And Montana throws a rainbow to him . . . and off to the races he goes.
By the way. No safety back. Buddy chose to call 0 coverage (no pun intended).
(In the words of the poet regarding Buddy’s coverage calls . . . “Is there another kind?”)
One thing I always wished Desean had… explosiveness in and out of cuts.
Versus Izel Jenkins, you might look like you were exploding out of your cut; he wasn’t called “Toast” for nothing.
“(and exposed, as SF routinely seemed to do, Buddy’s in-game decisions and 46 scheme)”
The rise of the WCO is one of the reasons why the 46 defense coudnt be used as an every down defense anymore
Article about Chip and his influences:
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/05/27/chip-kelly-philadelphia-eagles-offseason-moves
Any mention of “unnamed sources” or “other coaches who asked not to be quoted” describing how their teams have doing some of the same things long before Kelly hit the big time?
(And I’m talking to you, John Harbaugh.)
Do you mean Jim? John has said about the practices together that he only heard good things from his brother Jim, from his time at Stanford.
I also think Carroll and Belichik are another two that will sing his praises.
John made some remarks about “sports science” this offseason. Something like, everybody does it they just don’t make press releases about it.
I do remember that! Sounds like a cheap shot to me. I lost a lot of respect for Harbaugh and the Ravens after the Ray Rice situation.
Harbaugh should still be an Eagle in my book. I took it as less of a cheap shot and more of a “I’m doing it because everyone knows its awesome, not because it worked for him”.
If I were Chip I would be flattered.
The great UDFA Henry Josey will now take his legendary talents to the CFL. But we should have kept him!!!
Just thinking of Josey scooting around the left end in pres-season brings back memories of Vaughn Hebron.
Really should have kept Fluellen instead of trading him to the Colts for ANOTHER guy who will never get on the field besides Special Teams
Tucker is the better talent and he is still on the roster.
just getting his reps before coming back to us. Chip insisted. Even if it is against canadiens
I don’t know what you’re talkin abooooot.
Organ-I-zation.
Caw-fiDince.
Oh-fence.
Love Canada.
I heard it was a choice by Josey because the CFL isn’t so militant about football PSI.
key DL of Giants, Robert ayers, carried off the field with an ankle and/or knee injury
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giants already lost key veteran OL Beatty, and now their veteran DL..
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Hopefully we keep having these quiet practice days, where we hear little news… No news this time of year is good news!!
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Be awesome to not suffer any serious Injuries before training camp…
Interesting read about the culture at the Eagles:
http://nflspinzone.com/2015/05/26/philadelphia-eagles-culture-coming-focus/
a lot of good stuff in the pope jordan Interview besides his quotes on archbishop Nelson..,
I like that – Pope and Archbishop
No no no no no no no no!!!!
we’ve dubbed him the Cardinal, if you’d like to join with the B24/7 crowd
Not a bad name, but nobody wants to join the commenters at birds247. Quite possibly the worst comments of any eagles site
Dunno about that. Sheil’s a great writer, there’re several smart folks posting over there, and ever since they implemented a banning policy they don’t seem to have some of the aggressive over-posting problems we do around here…
Oh I was in no way referring to the writers. Sheil is one of the best Eagles beat writers there is. McManus isn’t that good but he is serviceable. The comments posted on that blog though have gone way downhill. The banning policy is a good thing but that doesn’t stop the nonsense non-eagles related conversations that go on there. The quality of comments and most of the commenters on this blog are far and away better then birds247
The commenters over there DO say it’s nicer now that GEagle left…
lol, not at all, but ok. we’re not all bootlickers like this lot
90% of the commenters over there are a bunch of clowns, I am not referring to you because the times I visited I haven’t seen much bush league talk from you. The opinions are of the 4th grade style. Have no real valid insight on anything. The entire blog is constant posting of non-eagles related things. Cmon dude maybe you should stick to that blog then because like I said they’re are actually real insightful commenters on this blog that have valid , sense making comments.
ok. maybe you should just calm down a little bit
Yeah, but GEAGLE-free is worth a lot of points.
https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c
Building off Tumtum’s comment about how Jordan Matthews sounds like a ten year vet, I would also say there’s something a little goofy about a 22 year old calling his 22 year old teammate “kid.”
“The kid gets it.” / “The kid is explosive.”
It’s like when a child slides around in his dad’s shoes and says he’s going to work today. Adorable.
I did think that was a little weird. LoL
It’s a term that is used alot by younger people. Mathews isn’t viewing him as less then in anyway. I’m 26, I hear it ALL the time.
Still goofy.
Though I guess it is better than another anachronistic peeve of mine: “Young man.”
“The young man gets it.” / “The young man is explosive.”
Yeah. I guess just think about it this way. When your generation was young your parents probably thought there were alot of terms you guys used that were strange.
Every generation has its quirks.
At ten years your senior I’m sadly unable to think all the way back to when my generation was young. I have vague memories of fashioning toys out of hoops and sticks and refilling lamps with whale oil so that we might continue churning butter past sundown… but that’s it.
Get your living in now, wee2424!
This discussion will remind members of a “more distinguished” generation (and classic rock fans) of a certain song from The Who…
Why don’t you all f-fade away…
And don’t try to dig what we all s-say…
EWWWWWW YOUR SO OLD B!
What was Jesus like?
Was Moses a chill dude?
Were dinosaurs hella dope to have as pets?
And here I thought you guys were still fashioning tools from rocks back then.
“When your generation was young” I gotta use that more often.
I really didn’t mean to sound like an asshole when I said it. Upon further review it does sound a bit like an asshole comment.
He is basically just using it in place of the word “rookie”
Lol yeah that too.
LOL – let the talking begin!
wow is right.
that’s cold.
but demarco will be cleaning his plate this year.
(…slight edits to make it Haiku)
wow is right that’s cold.
but murray will be cleaning
randle’s plate this year.
Have you read the comments to the 1st tweet? ‘Allas fans are saying that Randle is right and that Randle is a better scheme fit and he has better vision and quickness. LOL man those fans are hilarious.
So happy we get to play them early in the season… I wish the opening game was @ Dallas!!!
They’re absolute morons. If randle was better why didn’t he start?
Bwahahahahahahah Didn’t this moron see how many tackles Murray broke last year?. He had more 20 yard runs then any RB, and Mr. Wynona Ryder is running his mouth? Go steal some more underwear you dope..
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I highly doubt Randle and McFadden combined will break as many tackles as murray did for them last year. And combined, having added another 1st round Talent they won’t break as many big runs as Murray had last year.
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What an Idiot… I can’t wait to play them. I bet we shut down their run game, while Murray runs harder then he ever ran,, he will look possessed after how they treated him… I can’t wait Til Murray sees that quote
Guess those fans don’t realize what happens when you have a one cut bell cow RB taking a majority of the snaps wearing down defenses so that when the backup comes in fresh makes him look great, but I am talking about Cowboy fans so I shouldn’t be surprised they’re so oblivious to the obvious.
Remember how everything went right for us in 2013 and we had to pay the Karma tab last year with the injuries and a mess of a season?… Think Dallas will have to pay its Karma tab this year for EVERYTHING going right for them last year….I Expect to be laughing at Dallas this year while we compete with the Gianta for the division crown… Another year of RGme should also be comical.., I wish we could play against Manziel…
I’ve been saying this all offseason. The eagles had the best oline and the nfl rushing champ in 2013. The next year injuries derailed them. Dallas needs to be wary of that happening and I hope it does.
Well the Cowboys were 2nd healthiest on offense, but were 28th healthiest on defense. On the flipside the Eagles had the 2nd healthiest defense and 18th healthiest offense. So I wouldn’t say everything went right for them. They paid the injury fairy a visit just on the other side of the ball.
This foolish underwear stealing crackhead is really going to fire on Murray? I can’t wait to see Randle’s leg snapped in two with some bone sticking out through the meat.
You mean this guy?..lol
Randle seems like the type of guy that thinks, man if DeMarco had just bounced it outside he could have got 20 yards instead of the 10 straight up the gut. Man, me, I’d go for the 20 even though 4 out of 5 times, I’d be tackled after 1 yard.
Randle needs to say what he needs to say so he can perform, can’t feel great constantly lamenting losing someone who plays your position.
McCoy has a minor neck injury?
The stress of being traded to Buffalo already taking its toll.
Maybe he hurt his neck shopping for snow shovels
Whiplash?
MAYBE HE HURT IT WHEN HE STUCK IT OUT AND CALLED CHIP A RACIST…
Talk about a pain in the neck!
McCoy went to his doctor….Dr. Vinny Boombatz. The doctor told him he’s crazy. He wanted a second opinion. The doctor said he’s ugly, too.
I stole your joke
Maybe he had superglue on his fingers and accidentally fused them to his neck – WHICH WOULD BE AN AWESOME COINCIDENCE!
WTF..waited weeks to hear Eagles take questions from the media in press conferences, and they are wasting a press Confernce on friggin tim TEBOW? For what? He is the #4 QB on our roster, why does our media have waste what little access we get on a fringe player who may not even make our roster…
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hype that chip and Bradford are talkimg, but why is tim TEBOW speaking? There are at least 50 players at training camp that matter more then Timmy, who I would rather hear from.. All the crap they waste on TEBOW, should be spent finding out about guys like Marcus Smith and Earl Wolff…
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Derreck Gunn is not only predicting Barkley is done and TEBOW will make the roster, but he is already talking about chip designing a package of offensive plays for TEBOW? Like really? You go on TV and say that? That’s like worst then sports radio callers oppinions…
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Anyone know who else is talking besides chip, SAM, TEBOW, and I would assume Sanchez(not sure)? Can they have all 3QBs take questions except for Barkley? I assume Demeco or Barwin will speak for the defense
Where are you seeing these interviews at brotha?
Tomorrow part of the OTA’s are open to the media, Chip is taking questions around noon(before practice).. Bradford and Tebow are both scheduled to speak along with a few other players (not sure specifically who)
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Of course the media can’t stick to asking questions to relevant players and coaches trying provide info fans care about… media members will be fighting each other to be the prick that gets to ask shady about chips racist comments, a waste of time and access to chip since he won’t dignify that crap with a response… Waste a bunch of questions and access on meaningless Tebow…! Can’t think of a single question I would give a shit to hear Tebow answer other then maybe “have you lost your virginity yet?”
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PE.com will have them all up tomorrow(press conferences)
I think the media knows exactly what they are doing.
A lot of people want to hear about him. When he was on the Pats, he was the only fringe Patriot discussed here.
And, the people who don’t want to hear about him REALLY don’t want to hear about him, and will talk about not wanting to hear about him.
Either way, they are getting attention.
If he makes the team – – bam — jersey revenue goes through the roof….
Keep whining about it.
This was my gripe about Chip when the news first broke about Tebow. Chip gets rid of divas but signs a circus act? Of all the out of work QB’s, Circus Act was the best option?
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I get Chip does anything to better the team. Whats the ceiling for Circus Act? QB3? It’s just not worth it. I would have preferred a Group 2 QB rookie. I wish HR was still in charge so I can blame him :).
TLaw: Betcha don’t miss the W-I-D-E nine. I have immense respect for the brilliant scheming mind of Jim Johnson, but I believe the inherit necessity of blitzing was its edge AND its achilles heel. Elite QB’s are typically masters at recognizing the hot read. What I love about the 3-4 is the pressure it can frequently apply without the dependency on the blitz, and the decision to blitz can happen post-snap, spontaneously. I cannot remember when the Eagles D was potentially so difficult to deconstruct.
Completely agree with this sentiment. I loved those JJ defenses and the tenacity they played with, but when it came down to defending the elite qb’s, JJ had his issues. Like you said, the elite QB’s are masters of blitz recognition and knew where JJ was blitzing from before the snap. I still have visions of Brees and Warner getting the ball out in less than a second to their hot read.
As for the 3-4 in terms of blitzing, you are afforded a lot more flexibility. You can rush 4 and the offense will have trouble recognizing where that 4th guy is coming from.
For that reason I think the 3-4 is best against elite QBs unless you have extremely good pass rushing DE’s and a DT that can really push the middle up in the 4-3.
That being said I’m highly intrigued how good our D would be in a 4-3 with Cox and Logan in the middle, BG and Curry at DE, Kendricks at Will, Barwin at SAM, and Alonso at MLB. Thornton and Ryan’s would come in on definite run downs.
The more I think about it I think our front 7 would be even more dangerous as a 4-3. It would allow BG and Cox to play to their strengths, allow arguably our best pass rusher in Curry to be on the field more, and would allow Logan to only have to defeat one blocker. Ryan’s and Alonso have both played as 4-3 ILB and have tremendously succeeded. Kendricks has played WILL and I think is perfectly suited for it. I think Barwin could really be one of the best SAM’s in the league.
Yes, our D has the personnel to be a solid 4-3 team. Although, when it comes to pass rushing situation, the birds are usually in some sort of 4-3 alignment,
Alot of times due to Curry.
Did you watch Tom Brady just dink and dunk against one of the best defenses?
Great QBs make even the best defenses look bad (and the other way around)
It was intriguing to watch how the Pats chose to attack the Seahawks. Because the Hawks ran the same D over and over, they were predictable, so the Patriots just ran the same, short fast breaking routes that Bobby Wagner couldn’t cover, over and over.
Of course the Seahawks couldn’t close the deal in the 4th, on defense or offense, so even though the Pats had an outstanding gameplan they only have themselves to blame for losing.
Classic Belicheck. I think people discount how genius and disciplined he is in his simplicity rather than his complexity which gets all the attention. He does some complex things on defense, but I really respect his discipline in not over thinking things on offense. If something is there for the taking he’ll run the same simple concept over and over and over until a defense stops him. Always seems to do the simple obvious thing, never leaves you with head scratchers that seem way over thought. I remember so many times with Reid, where we’d be facing a team that was worst in the league against the run and top ten against the pass and we’d pass 60 times while the run was picking up 6 yards a play. We’d continue with 7 step drops and play action passes with no one staying in to help Justice as he gives up 6 sacks. And then be told that we continued to do those things because the other team expected us not to and we were sure we’d eventually hit on something.
I don’t disagree with this at all. I’m still haunted by the NFC championship game losses to Warner (although not completely JJ’s fault) and the playoff loss to Brees where the Eagles couldn’t stop anyone. Nevertheless, they still had a chance to win that game if it weren’t for a Scott Young (yes, Scott Young) holding penalty on the final drive.
The only QB who made JJ look bad was Peyton Manning. And not just bad. Absolutely terrible.
Oddly, in 2010 when McDermott was running the defense, he somehow turned the tables and made PManning look less than pedestrian.
I would argue that Peyton wasn’t the only one who made JJ look bad. JJ could never solve Brees or Warner
The Eagles went 2-2 against Brees while JJ was the D.C. The first 3 games were 3-point affairs (1 for the Birds, 2 for N.O.) Eagles won the fourth one by 15.
Same with Warner. Close games (except when he was with the Giants — in which case he no team around him).
Peyton Manning . . . blew out the Eagles twice when JJ was the D.C. He knew every blitz. Hated those games.
And in the 2001 NFC Championship loss, it wasn’t Warner carving up the defense, but the hard running of Marshall Faulk in the second half. Similarly, in the 2006 playoff loss to New Orleans, the Saints won behind a great game by Deuce McAllister.
If they could have just stopped the Cardinals on that fourth down on the last drive…
I come back to that a lot. Quintin Mikell had the angle to make the stop, but got sucked inside.
I’ll say this to the day I die. PI was committed on Curtis on our final drive on 4th down. I could not believe it wasn’t called, and to this day is one of my most hated bad ref moments.
Another one was in 2010 when Coles pinkey grazed P. Mannings head and the refs threw a 15 yard personal foul penalty. It was in a VERY clutch moment. There were a few of those penalties in that game, was almost like the refs were willing the Colts to win. Somehow we pulled the W I think with a clutch Asante INT.
There were moments when his tackling drove you nuts, but he was such a game changer. Peyton Manning even said he was his least favorite CB to play against. Tricking young or rookie QBs into picks is one thing but P. Manning is not an easy thing.
You know I’ve never seen a different camera angle on Curtis than the one from the live feed, but I figure it has to exist. I feel the same way, watching it live and on replay, it just seems like there’s no way it wasn’t PI. I’d have to see a shot from the side that showed more to convince me it otherwise.
Who knows but I really don’t think another camera angle would show something different. The CB knew he was beat once Curtis cut to the outside. He reached out with his hand to grab and trip Curtis as soon as the ball left Mcnabbs hand, effectively doing so and ending our SB hopes.
If that trip did not happen and Curtic caught the ball he had ALOT of room to run up the sideline. He had the speed, quickness, and open field agility to possibly put a move on the S.
To be fair, those are HOF QBs right there. You can make a case against Warner but that guy was lights out when he’s having a good day.
There have been alot of great DC and defenses that have looked bad against HOF worthy QBs. That’s why they are HOF worthy, because they are the best and beat the best.
There are a lot of moments on the field during a season, and I appreciated JJ’s ability to continually deliver innovative looks and schemes within a scheme. I would never accuse Johnson of being routinely overmatched. He was a headache that visited every OC the Eagles played. The way his time in Philly played out, the Eagles D was the unacknowledged catalyst to 5 straight division titles. A tougher, more competitive offense, and the Birds probably would have gone to 2 more SB’s than they did. The problem, as I saw it, if the D has to carry the team, it can’t be the burden of a savvy DC with other-worldly scheming abilities, it’s got to physically bash its opponents. JJ’s unit played more than well enough to defeat the Rams and the Panthers in those respective Conference Championship losses. I know this is not a 4-3 / 3-4 distinction. A 4-3 D with a hellacious pass rush will win a lot of games without ever needing to blitz. Bottom line: most of the most effective defenses today are consciously blurring the 4/3 – 3/4 lines, and they are physical AND deceptive, which is what I like about the potential for the 205 Eagles.
I also miss the 4-3. No better D than the 91 Eagles has every defended anything in need of defending…EVER.
I agree wide 9 can drop dead! A poor corollary to a great base D.
If our secondary was at least average the past 2 years I don’t think we would be missing any of our D’s in arguably the past 20 or so years. Maybe besides our 2004 D.
This is the best front 7 we have had in years and they are young and only getting better.
and the 91 defense wasnt really a standard 4-3 over defense either
For all those criticizing Chip for making some unusual moves.
Here is a quote from Fred Shero. The coach during TWO Philadelphia Broad Street Bullies’ championships.
“To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing”.
Applicable everywhere.
One of my favorite quotes.
Aristotle authored that quote — which is a credit to Shero’s intellectual curiosity.
This quote is often misattributed to Aristotle, but is actually by writer Elbert Hubbard, from his book “John North Willys” : “Do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing, and you’ll never be criticized.“
This isn’t the first time this conversation has taken place:
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/01/09/say-nothing/
Ray McDonald – DL – Free Agent
Free agent DE Ray McDonald was arrested again on Wednesday, this time for violating a restraining order.
The Santa Clara (CA) Police Dept. was informed Wednesday that McDonald visited a home he was prohibited from visiting two days after being arrested for domestic assault and child endangerment. This restraining order indeed stems from Monday’s Memorial Day arrest. Wednesday’s arrest took place at 2:52PM PT.
Related: Bears
Source: Santa Clara Police D
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This guy is on Aaron Hernandez’s level is stupid, dumb, and psychotic.
McDonald has a problem — be it jealousy, rage, or something — where this young lady and her baby are concerned.
(I can’t speak to the earlier arrests, which the authorities ultimately did not pursue.)
Her best move is to get herself and her baby the hell out of Dodge.
His best move is also get the hell out of Dodge, once he makes bail, so he doesn’t kill her in a rage.
This is heading in a bad direction.
He just happens to be (or was) in the NFL. So we read about it.
Check to Metro section of a city paper. This kind of stuff — if a homicide results — will be there.
I often don’t understand why people don’t “move” more often. This case is a perfect example, but moving is hard/expensive, especially if there is an ongoing financial relationship between the parties. Hopefully family does something, can’t believe dude would throw his playing career away over this nonsense.
“He just happens to be (or was) in the NFL. So we read about it.”
It’s a game of numbers. If 1 in 1000 men are domestic abusers, we can expect to hear about 1-2 players per year getting popped for it. I made that number up, but I imagine the ratio is quite a bit lower than that.
That being said, 1 in 6 women have been raped–a number I haven’t made up. I wonder how that one extrapolates onto the league…
$$ makes a lot of problems go away. That said would be interesting to see if athletes “rape” more than other people – i think the power dynamic can easily lead to girls having experiences that they weren’t comfortable with even though the sex was “consensual”.
Better question, is do you think among gay female (or straight female) athletes sexual assault occurs more or less often.
I don’t disagree that the incidence rate of false accusations would presumptively be higher when it comes to the rich and famous. 1 in 6 to nonexistent would be a very significant change though.
Wow!!! Someone in this scums family needs to get this dude some help, he is starting to spiral out of control… 3 woman assault incidence in 9 months, if this gets any worse someone is going to be seriously hurt. I hate to say this, but hopefully he gets put behind bars soon. No other woman should become this animals victim… If he seriously hurts someone after all these signs in 9 months, no one can plead ignorance. Get this dude off the street
Why you being a simp
Hernandez shot a guy for bumping into him at the bar. I don’t think McDonald is quite on that level.
In there own ways they are granted one is a serial murderer but the other is just lunatic that attacks women no matter the circumstances
You want him on your team?….
There is a lot of ground between Hernandez and the guys I want on my team.
Especially if Nate Allen is covering him…
Only for the 1 game against Buffalo, but he has to sign a contract that states if he doesn’t level Shady he immediately has to be escorted to jail after the game.
I’m not sure how this response relates to mine in any way.
Stuff like this is almost always based on pure emotion which doesn’t allow you to think. He really needs to go to counseling. Unfortunately jail is not something that will help.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/29715/Andrew-Luck
Look at the bottom at the sim score.
Also this
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2015/site-news-2014-statssim-scores-added-player-pages
While nobody is JJ Watt, Trent Cole was a beast in his prime
According to the Eagles spin doctor no. 1 Spuds, Carroll was the CB opposite Maxwell.
They didnt say anything about which side they played or who played starting S opposite Jenkins
R.I.P. JJ