More on Agholor

Posted: May 6th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 613 Comments »

The more I think about Nelson Agholor, the more I like the pick.

The Eagles were 6th in the NFL in Yards After the Catch. That sounds good, but they were 5th in the NFL in passing attempts. The high YAC total wasn’t due to skill and efficiency but rather volume.

Big plays were down from 2013. There were 80 pass plays that were good for 20 or more yards in Chip Kelly’s first year. That total fell to just 63 last year. That was still one of the better totals in the league, but it wasn’t what Kelly wanted. He covets big plays.

Agholor can deliver big plays. Watch his highlights and you can see his vertical speed, but also his ability to run with the ball after the catch.

One of the big disappointments with Jeremy Maclin is that he wasn’t more dynamic with the ball in his hands. I remember watching his first games as an Eagle, back in the 2009 preseason. They put him in as a returner and he looked like a deer in headlights. Where was the guy from Missouri?

Maclin did not adjust well to the physicality of the NFL. In college, he ran by or around everyone. He didn’t take many big hits. He wasn’t breaking many tackles. Maclin was a special player in college and a good player in the NFL. Check out his old Mizzou highlights for fun.

(Why does something from 2009 look like it’s from the Civil War era?)

Agholor isn’t necessarily Anquan Boldin rugged, but he seems comfortable playing in traffic. He focuses on the ball and doesn’t pay much attention to the defenders around him. That’s crucial when catching the ball in the middle of the field. The focus must be on the ball, not the fact you might get lit up.

Once he does have the ball, Agholor shows good vision and elusiveness, but he also runs as N-S as possible. That’s what you want. The receiver needs to be able to make tacklers miss, but can’t be so bothered by contact that he becomes an E-W runner. Big plays in the NFL come when you get up the field, not across it.

One of the things that makes Agholor so good is that he is also a good vertical threat. He has the speed to get deep. He also has the skills to track the ball and make the grab. In that highlight reel you see a few plays where he fully extends to catch the ball out in front of him. There is one play where he shows a second gear, as he speeds up to get in position to catch a ball out in front of him.

Agholor has good hands and is a natural hands catcher. I covet receivers who pluck the ball naturally. One reason I always wondered about the talk of Sammie Coates in the 1st round is that he’s got highly inconsistent hands. How can you spend a high pick on someone who might catch the ball? Agholor catches the ball with ease. That helps in a couple of ways. It speeds up the transition from receiver to runner. It also makes it easier to catch the ball downfield and on the move.

There is added value in Agholor due to his ability as a returner. He ran back 2 KOs and 2 punts for scores at USC. Darren Sproles is a terrific PR, but there is a need for someone behind him. Josh Huff has the inside track for the KOR job, but Agholor could challenge for that role.

Beyond all the on-field ability, Agholor sounds like a great culture fit. From Zach Berman.

“I think I understand the way life works,” Agholor said. “I don’t feel like I’m entitled to anything. . . . Work like a peasant. That’s the mind-set.”

Read the whole article and you’ll understand this isn’t a kid just saying the right thing. There is a whole history and set of actions behind those words.

Agholor has a chance to be a terrific player for the Eagles. He has NFL ability. He fits the Eagles offense. He also is a great fit for the locker room and what Chip Kelly is trying to build. There is no guarantee that he’ll have the immediate success that Jordan Matthews had, but that is certainly possible. I am excited to see Agholor as part of the Eagles offense.


613 Comments on “More on Agholor”

  1. 1 Charlie Kelly said at 9:24 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The mental make up of both Jordan Matthews and Nelson is highly impressive. PLUS they have the on the field skills to maximize their potential.

    And totally agree about maclin. I thought he was gonna be a beast after the catch, that never happened. he always went down the second a defender put a hand on him. Looks like nelson isnt afraid to lower that shoulder and fight!!

  2. 2 sprawl said at 9:53 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    “good vision and elusiveness”

    What really stands out to me is the way he aggressively attacks bad angles. He won’t encounter quite as many bad angles in the NFL but he really fights for yardage and should be able to break free for some occasional big plays.

    A couple of my favorite physical plays are at this point in the USC/Cal scouting footage from 2014:

  3. 3 Charlie Kelly said at 9:55 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    i like how comfortable he is running routes from running back position. could have bith huff and nelson back there on plays.

  4. 4 sprawl said at 10:00 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I think I saw some similar stuff in that Maclin video where a collection of Maclin-shaped pixels was running jet sweeps and stuff we hadn’t seen work quite the same in the NFL. Maclin always did a great job getting open after 7 yards but I’m not sure I ever saw the same kind of short-yardage elusiveness

  5. 5 Baloophi said at 1:19 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    “He won’t encounter quite as many bad angles in the NFL…”

    Only during practice…

  6. 6 Mitchell said at 1:23 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wait, “are we talkin’ bout practice?!”

  7. 7 unhinged said at 9:46 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    If Agholor wants to remain on the field, he had better learn some of Maclin’s tendencies. Not saying he should play afraid, but 16 games is a grind and he will be a big target. He will either be judicious or he’ll be hit too many times for his own good. I wish him good fortune.

  8. 8 Buge Halls said at 5:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    “tendencies” like falling down (taking a dive) after the catch or running out of bounds? He’s paid millions to take those hits and earn his YAC

  9. 9 SteveH said at 9:24 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I like Agholor’s odds to win OROY. Of course the RB’s probably have the inside track, but among the wideouts, Amari Cooper is stuck in the black hole out in Oakland, and the other first round wide outs are possible competition but nobody really sticks out as a slam dunk… Plus I think Agholor will be starting right away in a pretty friendly system for rookies.

    At 14/1 I wouldn’t mind laying 100 on him to win it…

  10. 10 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:02 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Todd Gurley…?

  11. 11 Javi Echie said at 4:07 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Melvin Gordon?

  12. 12 Insomniac said at 9:38 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Agholor can be the next Marvin Harrison on the field if everything goes right.

  13. 13 P_P_K said at 9:53 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    If Agholor and Matthews both play at a high level the Eagles O will be incredibly powerful. I’m almost tempted to say “regardless of quarterback.”

    Can anyone remember a time in Eagles history when the team had two stud wide receivers at the same time?

  14. 14 daveH said at 9:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    GREG LEWIS & TODD PINKSTON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS A TON FAT ANDY REID YOU MADE 5 MILLION THAT YEAR WAY TO BRING US IN 20MIL UNDER THE CAP YOU ALL TIME 60% win PCT ALL TIME JEARK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. 15 Henly125 said at 10:40 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The greatest WRs in Eagles history!

  16. 16 Buge Halls said at 5:19 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Please use your inside voice

  17. 17 daveH said at 8:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    indeed I did

  18. 18 Cafone said at 9:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:


  19. 19 P_P_K said at 10:31 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    DeSean and Maclin? No way. When I use the term “stud,” I mean badass, dominating and potentially fear-inducing. You know, guys like you and me.

  20. 20 Cafone said at 10:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Well, I don’t think Matthews/Agholor are going to fit that description either. I think they can be very good and very productive in this system.

  21. 21 P_P_K said at 11:00 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m drinking GEAGLE’s kool-aid tonight (see his post above) and envisoning the greatest tandem in NFL history.

  22. 22 MagLikesDraft said at 2:11 AM on May 7th, 2015:


  23. 23 Jamie Parker said at 4:21 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Those aren’t Eagles uniforms.

  24. 24 P_P_K said at 12:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    If our guys are even close to these guys I’ll be happy.

  25. 25 GEAGLE said at 8:09 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Slow down there…. Being one of the most polished rookies on a high octane offense is a long way from greatest Tandem in history,,
    I wouldnt bet on AGholor being one of the top 2’WR to come out of this draft, I just think,he will make a quicker transition to the NFL game then a few of the WR picked ahead of him…
    Not even sure he will go on to be a true #1, but if we are going to have so many quality pass catching weapons, I’m not sure that will even matter…

  26. 26 P_P_K said at 9:20 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I was just messin’ around. It can be hard to wink through a keyboard.

  27. 27 Mo Gravy said at 6:50 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Tommy McDonald and Pete Retzlaff.

  28. 28 P_P_K said at 8:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Right. Many moons ago.

  29. 29 daveH said at 9:54 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    you can see AGholar’s humble mindset every time he hits the end zone ..which is a lot. bet he never ever EVER drops the ball before he runs in !!
    darn Maclin was a beast in college..he runs sofa king SMOOTH!!!

  30. 30 anon said at 12:32 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    he got bodied by the physicality of the pro game, excited for NA.

  31. 31 daveH said at 12:29 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    worries me about NA .. whatcha think?

  32. 32 Cafone said at 9:55 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m offended by his use of the word peasant. That’s our word.

  33. 33 TommyLawlor said at 9:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:


  34. 34 sprawl said at 10:03 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The peasant mind-set is the official mind-set of Pabst Blue Ribbon.

  35. 35 Mitchell said at 9:56 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Wanna talk about good route running? Watch how Agholor stacks the defender at around 2:05 on the first vid. There is no way the db can get to that ball without getting called on PI. Textbook beautiful stack.

  36. 36 GEAGLE said at 10:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Fans definitely don’t have to worry about a MS2 situation this year. Agholor is extremely polished and will play right away. This won’t be a case of drafting a kid that can’t get on the field. I remember the WR dark ages when we would beg for WRs.. Back then we would have gone crazy to see the Eagles draft a WR in round forward to now and we drafted a WR in rounds 1,2 and 3 in two years, a long way from the Torrence small/Charles Johnson, Thrash, Kevin Curtis, Reggie brown, Fredex dark ages..

  37. 37 Jamie Parker said at 4:24 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Fred Ex was a 1st rounder. Stinkston and Brown were both 2nd rounders. Macllin was a 1st and D-Jax was a 2nd. It’s not like they didn’t try.

  38. 38 Baloophi said at 1:12 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    It’s a nice stack, but it’s no symmetrical book stacking…

  39. 39 Mitchell said at 1:15 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    This scene always creeped me out so bad. I’m not even gonna watch it, so there.

  40. 40 Baloophi said at 1:20 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I agree… but it cuts out before the reveal…

  41. 41 Mitchell said at 1:21 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    O no, you’re not fooling me again Baloophi, I’m wise to your tricks.

  42. 42 MagLikesDraft said at 2:07 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Ramis and Ackroyd were both near-geniuses. They let Murray have the spotlight and they all ended up with a huge hit and huge careers.

  43. 43 Baloophi said at 2:14 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    They knew it was bad to cross the streams.

  44. 44 MagLikesDraft said at 2:26 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Only a graduate of SCTV could have come up with the Sta-Puft (sp?)marshmallow man as the destroyer of the world. Or at least New York City. All those creative types in the more recent movies always have the same old boring sons of Godzilla for monsters.

  45. 45 GEAGLE said at 10:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    This will be the rookie of the year and will beat out amari Cooper for most catches from a rookie… This kid and jordan should push each other to new heights, hopefully huffs keeps up, because then we will really be dangerous.

  46. 46 GEAGLE said at 10:32 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lael Collins is not the father and he passed a polygraph. Not only is he not a susect, but he isn’t even a person if Intereat. Hopefully former LSU captain Bennie Logan can out recruit Odell Beckham. We do not need the Giants winning tbe Collina sweepstake .. It’s a shame he lost out of millions of dollars and a woman and child tragically lost their lives.. Since he isn’t the father, find the father of the child and 10 to 1 odds you found your killer

  47. 47 P_P_K said at 10:34 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I wonder if it would it be possible to move Agholor and Matthews around so they take turns playing slot? Would drive Defensive Coordnators crazy.

  48. 48 GEAGLE said at 10:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Absolutely. Both players have plenty experience Linning up inside and outside.. You basically just brought up chips real vision. You can add Ertz, Huff and Sproles to Agholor and Jordan and all 5 weapons, 6 of you count Miles Austin are all capable of linning up in the slot, and out wide… We can move all out weapons around constantly and keep throwing new weapons matches up against different defenders. Heck Huff and Nelson can even lineup in the backfield and run his route out of the backfield..

    We have an entire arsenal of guys that can lineup all over. Not every team has a RB like sproles who like Westbrook could lineup in the slot or split out wide. Not every team has a Tight end like Ertz that can split out wide like a WR. Not every team has 3 young Wr who can all move around between inside and outside..
    And we have a better stylistic 1 cut down hill physical run game. Stay healthy and this offense will be the best we have seen from chip

  49. 49 P_P_K said at 10:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Now you’re talking.

  50. 50 wee2424 said at 11:13 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I think that’s the plan actually. If it’s a bigger slower slot CB put Agholor in there to burn him. If it’s a smaller slot CB put Mathews in there to physically dominate him. It is a game of matchup after all.

    Couldn’t do it with Maclin much because he never seemed comfortable in the slot and was more of a sideline guy. Maclin was great working the sideline last year.

  51. 51 mksp said at 12:47 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Agholor and Matthews are really different.

    I’m not convinced Jordan Matthews can play outside, he doesn’t have the feet to consistently beat man coverage.

    Agholor is truly versatile. Nice mix of size, speed and quickness. He plays bigger than he is too, attacks the ball.

    JMatt is a nice player, and will be highly productive because he’ll be schemed open and is a big target, but Agholor is the better WR.

  52. 52 eagleyankfan said at 10:12 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’ll take that bet that “Agholor is a better WR”.
    If JM is inside and Aggie outside — where is Huff in all of this?
    I get that the Eagles like to move players around .. but let’s consider a few things. 1) JM had a remarkable rookie season. Can he improve over last year? I’m anxious to find out. 2) How will Aggie adjust to NFL speed? I’m guess no problem. He’ll still have to fight a few wr’s ahead of him that we don’t know about. Will Miles take snaps away from him?
    Isn’t the Eagles offensive plan to scheme all wr’s open or are you saying, they have to do a “special” scheme just for JM?

  53. 53 Henly125 said at 10:38 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Agholor is going to be a beast. I enjoy watching him play and was even disappointed that the highlight video ended. Will be fun watching him in the Machine Gun Offense.

  54. 54 EaglesFan1 said at 10:40 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m really excited about the offense this year. If agholor becomes the #1 guy I could see him become 75/1100/8 guy. Add to the fact that mathews will be better next year and with Murray in the backfield. Damn I can’t wait.

  55. 55 GEAGLE said at 10:44 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see him catch 90 balls and win rookie of the year. Think he beats all rookies in catches and yards but Amati Cooper beats him in TDs..
    I’m so excited about this offense and people ridiculed and talked so much trash to chip while he was busy improving this roster.,, so exited about this franchise. The exciting part is chip put this roster together in his first offseason as GM..
    He embraces the physicality of the game. Put some more muscle on his upper body the next couples of yeas and he will be a YAC monster.. Fortunate that the 4th WR drafted is this polished

  56. 56 EaglesFan1 said at 11:00 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Wow those are some pretty high expectations, but I’d be happy if that happens.

  57. 57 GEAGLE said at 7:26 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Not exactly that big of a prediction to think the 4th WR drafted will have the biggest year.. ODB was the 3rd WR drafted, and a lot of it has to do with Agholor playing in a chip kelly Offense…amari plays with Carr in Oakland, white plays with Cutler, Devante is where miami?

  58. 58 EaglesFan1 said at 7:56 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I always thought that Cooper would have the biggest year because he would be force fed the ball since Oakland doesn’t have any other threats that I can think of.

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 8:23 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Certainly possible. He is also coming into the league polished and Game ready,, I assume it will come down to Agholor vs. Amari for the best rookie numbers….. Can’t see White having a big first year on the Bears, and Devante Parker won’t get as many looks as Nelson and Amari.. Perriman probably isn’t as polished and will need a year or two… Texans got a steal in Jalen Strong so late to play opposite of DeAmdre

  60. 60 Cafone said at 11:03 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    90 receptions as a rookie, not only more than any wide receiver has caught under Chip Kelly, but more than any wide receiver has caught in the history of the Eagles franchise?

    I’ll bet you $10,000 that does not happen.

  61. 61 wee2424 said at 11:12 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yeah. I don’t think 90 catches will happen but I do think he will have a rookie season slightly better then Mathews. He is more NFL ready then Mathews was heading out of college, and IF he starts on the outside he will simply be on the field more then Mathews. Plus add the fact he is better at YAC therefore that will add more yards as well.

    Lol at the same time I am really high on him so be careful betting 10,000.

  62. 62 Cafone said at 11:19 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Just because I don’t think he will break the Eagles receiving record his rookie year does not mean I am not optimistic. Murray, Matthews and Sproles might get some touches too.

    Agholor has what you want to see at this point: an excellent college highlight reel and what seems like an exemplary mindset. But he’s still a rookie and nothing is lost by waiting to anoint him the greatest Eagle ever until we at least see him play against backups in a pre-season game.

  63. 63 wee2424 said at 9:46 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I understood what you are saying. I never thought for one second that you weren’t high on him.

  64. 64 GEAGLE said at 10:13 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Think he Easily beats Mathews last year… But much of that has to do with our QB having a healthy OL compared to last years mess as it does to how I view rookie jordan vs. rookie agholor… Jordan put up nice numbers in what was a mess of a year. If our OL stays healthy agholor should beat out desean a rookie numbers and shatter Jordan’s

  65. 65 wee2424 said at 11:14 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think yardage and catch wise. Not sure if he will put up 8tds. I think Mathews is going to be big in goal line for the coming years.

  66. 66 Flyin said at 11:32 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    You really think Amari Cooper will have more TDs in Oakland? I think it will be flipped. Cooper may have more catches and less TDs.

  67. 67 GEAGLE said at 7:23 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Agholor has to share TDs with a bunch of weapons, If Amari Cooper isn’t getting the TD for Oakland who is, that slow TE?

  68. 68 A_T_G said at 11:37 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    “…and people ridiculed and talked so much trash to chip while he was busy improving this roster.,,”

    Stuff like this?

    “hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA “bRILLIANT” “gENIUS”… i swear i cant stop laughing,. i think im cracking up”

    “might as well cut Jason Peters, Mathis, Celek, Meco… full rebuild”

    “they will release Bradford… they cant trade him at that salary, no one will give us anything because everyone will know if they wait, we will release him”

  69. 69 BlindChow said at 1:10 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    This is gold.

  70. 70 mksp said at 12:50 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    The more you lie and propagate revisionist history, the more we’ll call you out on it.

    Why are you even still here? Didn’t you promise to never come back if Nick “Rainmaker” FOles got traded?

  71. 71 Dominik said at 9:33 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Could you just back off, dude? You stalking GEagle is more boring than anything else.

    Now, A_T_G made a nice point. GEagle tends to be emotional. The Bradford trade was hard for me, too, because the expectations were crazy (from 10th for 20th to we give up a 2nd and all of that), so I can’t blame him personally. Still, good point.

    Not so much from you, though. You act like you accuse GEagle to act.

  72. 72 GEAGLE said at 10:10 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Please keep my name out of your posts… I go out of my way to minimize te posts of my stalker trash inferiority complex donkeys. I literally haven’t seen a word they have written in months, I wouldn’t even be aware of it of people like you who’s posts I actually read didn’t respond to it… It honestly makes no difference to me, if anything it’s flattering that donkey who’s regular posts aren’t worth reading can recite my every word… I enjoy your posts, no need to start rolling around with the trash on my account..

  73. 73 Dominik said at 10:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I didn’t try to defend you, mate. His reactions to your posts annoy me, that’s why I wrote what I wrote.

    I always enjoy constructive crticism, whether it’s on my posts, your posts, T-Laws posts… I just don’t like the trolling.

  74. 74 mksp said at 1:53 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Call it trolling if you want, maybe it is.

    He’s been banned from every other Eagles forum so he bring his BS here. I’m not the only one standing up for what’s right on this board.

  75. 75 mksp said at 1:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Absolutely not.

    You don’t need to read my posts.

    See, it works that was as well.

    As far as I’m concerned, GEAGLE is a blight on this board who makes it worse for everyone. There’s a reason why the “anti-GEAGLE” posts get far more upvotes than his baseless spam. If my responses to his BS annoy you, then blame him.

    He’s gotten more and more annoying this offseason, and spams the board more and more regularly. So here we are.

  76. 76 eagleyankfan said at 7:53 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wow, how soon we forget what fantastic season JM had last year as a rook. LOL. My money was, and still is, as JM as the number 1, but these 2 just might make a dynamic duo(yeah, I went there) … cue batman music….

  77. 77 EaglesFan1 said at 7:56 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I hope so

  78. 78 Flyin said at 10:59 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Check out this interview with Mike Mayock at his pro day… impressive.

  79. 79 Joe Minx said at 11:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    La’El Collins first visit will be to………

    the Dallas Cowboys.


  80. 80 Insomniac said at 11:21 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    What better place to be at first to say F U to 🙂

  81. 81 Flyin said at 11:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    If Collins is cleared of this double homicide, he is definitely not a fit for Dallas.

  82. 82 Insomniac said at 11:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    but he’s a Cowboys fan so that makes it easier to hate him if he signs somewhere else.

  83. 83 Flyin said at 11:49 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Murray and Miles need to step up and tell him the real deal about Dallas. Bennie also needs to press him to stay away from the dark side.

  84. 84 Insomniac said at 11:51 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yea. Murray should tell him about that old man QB that won’t take a paycut to keep you around to protect him.

  85. 85 GENETiC-FREAK said at 11:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Damn man hope he doesnt go there

  86. 86 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 1:47 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Isn’t their line stacked already?

  87. 87 ICDogg said at 12:00 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Turns out he’s not the father

  88. 88 GEAGLE said at 7:44 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Passed a polygraph too, not only ISNT he a suspect, he isn’t even a person of interest… Guess it was true that his name would be cleared by thursday

  89. 89 Dominik said at 9:35 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Does the police say he isn’t a person of interest anymore? Or is it your take?

    Don’t get me wrong, I want Collins, but I would like for the police to clear him first.

    btw: Collins can only sign after the 9th. He has to wait until LSU graduated their seniors. Don’t know why, but Andrew Brandt said that on Twitter and he knows his stuff.

  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 10:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    They said it smh

  91. 91 Dominik said at 10:40 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    That’s good then. I just wanted to know.

  92. 92 RC5000 said at 10:52 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Are you sure he can’t sign if he gets offer and wants to sign like all the other UDFAs . Teams can’t visit him on campus or at his residence. Profootballtalk says he’s in Dallas now.

  93. 93 Dominik said at 10:54 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Visits are ok, I guess. But no official signing. At least that’s what Brandt wrote, maybe he made a mistake. It did sound a little strange to me, too, but then again, look at the Stanford graduation rule with OTAs who we had to witness the last two years.

  94. 94 RC5000 said at 11:04 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    So hundreds of UDFAs signed including a number of LSU players and Collins can’t? What does attending OTAs have to do with signings?

  95. 95 Anders said at 3:37 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Well Dallas isnt a fit unless he wanna start out as a guard.

  96. 96 Bert's Bells said at 8:11 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    It’d be cool if they signed him and he sucked.

  97. 97 GEAGLE said at 10:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I am predicting the Panthers, since they have garbage Micheal Oher at left tackle

  98. 98 SteveH said at 12:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Called it when it was happening; if La’el Collins ends up being good all the teams that passed on him during that draft day nonsense will end up feeling very foolish.

    You’re like what, 60-70% going to have a bust on your hands by the 4th round anyhow? Collins was never a suspect, roll the damn dice.

  99. 99 mksp said at 12:51 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Until he doesn’t sign and you waste a 4th or 5th for nothing.

  100. 100 BlindChow said at 1:08 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    It’s amazing people are still saying we should have spent a draft pick on him.

  101. 101 Mitchell said at 1:14 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Then you ask yourself: Would you rather have a player like Shepherd or Collins who isn’t even going to sign. Even at a 6th rounder, I still think Shepherd may very well be an above average player. It was not worth the risk.

  102. 102 Baloophi said at 1:35 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Sheph(a)rd or Collins? I’d rather choose between Armstrong and Aldrin. #TopicalApolloProgramAstronautsReference

  103. 103 Mitchell said at 1:44 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    And just like the cosmos explorers, that reference went………… way over my head.

  104. 104 Baloophi said at 1:51 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    That was out of this world, my friend.

  105. 105 laeagle said at 2:09 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    This post makes me wish downvotes still showed up.

  106. 106 Baloophi said at 2:12 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Oh, I felt it.

  107. 107 Bert's Bells said at 8:09 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Just do this: BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  108. 108 Baloophi said at 1:51 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    That was out of this world, my friend.

  109. 109 MagLikesDraft said at 2:00 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    It doesn’t really matter because the first “feet” on the moon were really part of the LEM. They were built in Quebec, so were Canadian!!

    Landing gear on the Apollo lunar module: Using a landing system designed by Canada’s Héroux-Devtek, the Apollo lunar module was the first vehicle to take humans to another surface beyond Earth. Facing a tight timeline in the space race between the U.S. and Russia, Héroux-Devtek produced the landing gear systems used in all six moon landings; their hardware can still be found on the moon today.

  110. 110 Baloophi said at 2:06 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Canada: We bring you the moon, and poutine.

  111. 111 MagLikesDraft said at 2:21 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Well they’re both from Quebec! I’ve never eaten poutine myself. I did once order a cheesesteak however, from a company which shipped overnight by Fedex. The makings for the sandwich, a TastyKakes product and 2 cans of Frank’s soda. Those 2 cans are still in the back of my fridge! ;~D. That was 14 years ago!!

  112. 112 Baloophi said at 2:24 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Ha! We had some Timmy Ho’s sent via FedEx to work a couple years ago…

  113. 113 Bert's Bells said at 8:08 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    And Bieber.

  114. 114 eaglefansocal said at 11:37 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    And “the fireman”

  115. 115 bsuperfi said at 9:08 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    A place called Q-tine, which is a bbq/poutine joint, is set to open up down the street from me (in Chicago). Not sure if this is going to be the greatest or worst thing in my life.

  116. 116 GEAGLE said at 7:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Only a risk if the young Man did something wrong…

  117. 117 Mitchell said at 8:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Regardless if he didn’t singe he would have entered the draft next year and we would be out a pick no?

  118. 118 GEAGLE said at 10:16 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah I don’t believe that bullshit that he wouldn’t sign and be broke all year so he can enter the draft next year,. Just trying to create what leverage they could in a bad situation

  119. 119 mksp said at 9:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    You’re a fucking idiot.

    You haven’t paid attention to a single fact about the circumstances, haven’t digested the various options Collins had, and clearly haven’t read a single article explaining EXACTLY why it would be stupid to use a late round pick on him.

    But no, please keep going around sharing your bountiful wisdom with all us donkeys.

  120. 120 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 1:46 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    We had no way of knowing if was innocent or guilty. People are already saying our organization is racist…. And after everything that’s happened in the NFL do you really want to be the organization that signed a man who called a woman and her unborn child?

  121. 121 anon said at 1:47 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    who cares about what other people say / think? that’s like chip’s no. 10 motto,

  122. 122 GEAGLE said at 7:41 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah it was pretty ridiculuos everyone assuming the worst while his agent was basically telling everyone that this was a non issue… No Guilty murderer would be having his agent try to get him in a draft a year away,, they were trying to enter the supplemental or 2016 draft, that should have told everyone that the kid had nothing to do with this… Money always talks, and a guilt party wouldnt be trying to get paid a year from now, a guilt person would have tried to get paid as soon as possible before he was found guilty.

    No murderer,is going to tell his agent to try and get me in the 2016 draft assuming he would get away with it for a year..

  123. 123 Baloophi said at 2:03 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Watching the highlights at 4:33 where Agholor dives into the end zone against Utah, I found a new talent: the gentleman in the maroon polo and khakis who ballets into “fifth position” to seduce the referee into calling a touchdown and then pumps his fist after being rewarded. BONUS? An Eric Rowe cameo at the bottom of the screen.

  124. 124 MagLikesDraft said at 2:29 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Using the 5th position to seduce an official? Beats bribery.

  125. 125 Erik Richardson said at 3:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Not that it means much. I liked Maclin’s reel more. I know what Maclin can do, has done. I’m happy with the kid. Can’t wait to see him. Nelson has a Sayers, Simpson, Moss, galloping running style. Deceptive speed.

  126. 126 Anders said at 4:38 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Maclin was a greater college wr and its no discussion, but because Agholor is more physical, his skills might translate better than Maclin’s did.

  127. 127 NinjaP said at 4:39 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Well yeah Maclin was the better college player but he never lived up to that reel in the NFL. Let’s hope Nelson actually can translate.

  128. 128 xmbk said at 6:04 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Good analogy on running style (and shiftiness). Can tell he and Huff are ex RB. Doubt Maclin ever was.

  129. 129 Rambo said at 7:02 AM on May 7th, 2015:


    CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports LSU T/G La’El Collins’ first visit will be to the Cowboys.

    La Canfora deems Collins “the most coveted undrafted free agent in NFL history,” which really isn’t an exaggeration considering he was seen as a lock first-rounder before an unfortunate series of events resulted in Collins falling out of the draft entirely. Collins’ chances of starting in Dallas wouldn’t be great when compared to other potential destinations, though we imagine he may be a better left guard option than Ronald Leary, who is the relative weakness on the Cowboys’ line.

  130. 130 bubqr said at 7:48 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Agholor is a strong canadate to be OROY, for sure.

  131. 131 Bert's Bells said at 8:04 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Unless both Winston and Mariota are complete garbage it’ll be tough for anyone else to put up numbers to top the press/acclaim that QBs get.

  132. 132 unhinged said at 9:09 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    If Mariota is playing early in the season, which will suck for him, he’ll be showing off his speed more than his arm, I expect. If he rides the bench until at least Christmas, we might get a lot of fanfare with his debut, when it happens. OTOH, Winston will be under a microscope from the pre-season, and every D-lineman in the league will want to be the first one to put him on his back. If Winston has any success, more folks will see it than Agholor, but Winston’s picks and sacks and flubs will also be seen by more as well.

  133. 133 Bert's Bells said at 9:53 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    All possible.

    Eagles already have one OROY on the roster, maybe he’ll throwing to a second one.

  134. 134 PerfectTrader777 said at 11:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    12 to 1

  135. 135 eagleyankfan said at 7:54 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    To be fair — Aggie has yet to be hit by an nfl player as well. I’m not saying he’ll shy away after that hit, I’m just saying, the kid hasn’t been hit yet…

  136. 136 Ben Hert said at 8:41 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah, and playing in the “soft” PAC-whatever-teen-it-is-these-days.

  137. 137 GEAGLE said at 8:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    marcus Peters, Shaq Thomson, alex Carter, Jordan Richards, Arik armstead, I’m sure he has been hit by plenty NFL players

  138. 138 eagleyankfan said at 9:20 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    no matter what college name used, none of them will hit as hard as they will in a year or two. There’s no comparison as each mentioned will be refined and gained weight, speed etc etc. He hasn’t been hit yet…

  139. 139 GEAGLE said at 9:23 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    While they will hit harder in a year or two, Agholor should be equipped to handle bigger hits in a year or two… But I get the point

  140. 140 eagleyankfan said at 9:27 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    lol…those drafter a year or two ago — will be hitting Aggie this year…
    In T-Laws last writeup he said that a wr in college was able to use his size vs. college CB’s and that he’ll be facing ‘bigger’ CB’s in the NFL. Same applies here..
    I’m not saying he can’t handle it. All I’m saying is we have to see how he responds to the “welcome to the nfl hit”…. I bet he takes it like a champ….

  141. 141 GEAGLE said at 10:04 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Lol we can do this all day

  142. 142 eagleyankfan said at 10:36 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    :). Yeah, it’s fun. Can’t wait for some real action and OTA’s etc etc…

  143. 143 GEAGLE said at 7:55 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    When shady runs his mouth and makes such ignorant, immature statements, and then you hear kids like Agholor, Jordan, and Rowe speak. It basically shows exactly what chip is trying to do with the character on this team and shady makes it hard to not side with chip..
    Just take Shady vs Demarco in terms of personality and football Character, it’s night and day.. Demarco is known as one of the smartest RBs, a true student of the game, not to mention he is a class act on and off the field(weird for a cowboy, I know)..

    Demeco won’t play Twitter games, not tip waitresses, throw woman off party busses, get into a trashy Twitter argument with his baby mama…. You won’t ever see anything like this with Demarco
    Probably easier to miss shady if Frank Gore was our RB

    Shady rips chip because “he wants Full Control” what friggn COMPETANT coach doesn’t want full control? What a fool

  144. 144 GEAGLE said at 8:05 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Why is Ertz working out with MMA stars Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture both retired? One is a 40yr old party animal and Couture is a 50yr old whos “Captain America” good guy image is known to be completely fake and he is one of the biggest scumbags in the industry… I assume this was with Jay Glazier? Not exactly sure what ERTZ got out of training with retired old men former MMA stars…

  145. 145 Anders said at 8:16 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Do it matter how old they are if the training works?

  146. 146 GEAGLE said at 8:19 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    What training is the question? What could he be learning from Liddell, the biggest Knockout artist in the game? I doubt Liddells “overhand right” will be a big help to ERTZ…At least from Randy, a master at clinch work/Greco roman. And dirty boxing, it translates to blocking.. Can’t really envision what he got out of working with Liddell…. And I can’t image Liddell is working out as hard as he used to these days…. I assume this was all with Jay Glazier, but I haven’t heard his name in connection to it yet

  147. 147 Anders said at 8:48 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    “Liddell has an extensive striking background in Kempo, Koei-Kan karate and kickboxing, as well as a grappling background in collegiate wrestling and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu”

    All of this can help in blocking and I think NFL players should in general train martial arts as it helps prepare the body in a whole different way than traditional body building that many football players use

  148. 148 GEAGLE said at 8:56 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Lol Liddell hasnt used his wrestling in decades. At most he used counter wrestling to stay on his feet and not get taken down so he can take your head off with his overhand right, doubt sprawling applies to football, Ju jItsu is all fighting on the ground, aka submission grappling and I doubt you are allowed to roll around on the ground with your opponent in the NFL, unless you are pancaking someone. Ju jitsu DOESNT translate to football. Doubt Kempo and its wrist locks apply to the NFL.. His kick boxing is good cardio…. It’s not uncommon for players to train MMA with Glazier… Chancler and Aurthur jones brother is the recently stripped light heavyweight champion….. But not all MMA training applies outside of cardio…. Randy and Liddell were the famous names included in the report, highly doubt he did much with them.. More likely it was under Jay Glaziers tutaledge training with a lot of the younger guys who still compete …wrestling is what applies the most outsider of MMA cardio?.
    Randy’s greco roman clinch work is what applies to NFL blocking
    Also Judokas use of leverage, using an opponents body weight against them, winning the balance battle
    I’ll laugh if I see Ertz try to get “under hooks” in the clinch when trying to block his man

  149. 149 GEAGLE said at 8:59 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Oh yeah the report is it was to improve his blocking, makes sense… And he worked with ex cowboy lineman/coach named “Hudson something”

  150. 150 Anders said at 9:03 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Most of the martial arts related to hand technique to win the initial hand fight.

    I think most martial arts training gives a player better cardio and explosion than the traditional body building.

  151. 151 wee2424 said at 9:18 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I could see Couture because he was a good wrestler which could contribute to blocking, but I can’t see Liddell so much.

  152. 152 GEAGLE said at 9:22 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Doubt he did much training with either… I assume they were there or were the biggest names associated with the workouts so they used their names in the report..
    It was Jay Graziers training session, which he has done with tons of NFL players whether Liddell and Chuck were around or not… Dion Jordan and Kyle long worked with Glazier going into the draft, and Lane was supposed to work with Glazier this offseason too

  153. 153 lewis don said at 8:08 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    “The Eagles were 6th in the NFL in Yards After the Catch. That sounds good, but they were 5th in the NFL in passing attempts. The high YAC total wasn’t due to skill and efficiency but rather volume”

    Glad you pointed out the over inflated YAC yards for us last year, because hoenstly that has been the most frustrating part of watching the Eagles. We have never really had that except for TO and Bwestbrook.

    Sproles struggled catching the ball last year and Jordan Matthews struggled early.

    But When matthews got going he showed some decent RAC skills, although he is not in his final form.

    Algohor and Matthews combined will be a great and tough matchup. IMO u have three guys with RAC skills, Huff, Algohor, and Matthews.

    I think Matthews emerges as our number one. Imo that guy is amazing. the way he works. Watching that Tennessee game last year. man. something special. Im thinking algohor will be a above average second or thrid fiddle. perhaps Miles Austin of Huff is the number two WR

  154. 154 GEAGLE said at 8:16 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I assume Sanchez had a lot to do with inflated YAC stats…when your QB can’t throw the ball down field, and his favorite target is a slot WR, throwing short and intermediate most of the time, you will probably end up with some inflated YAC stats… If FOles stayed the QB all year, the way he takes shots down field with Maclin, the YAC #s Probably wouldn’t have been as high as they were with Sanchez, A QB with no arm strength

  155. 155 lewis don said at 9:39 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Interesting that you point that out G.
    I was thinking the same thing. It became apparent to me the first time I saw Marks pro football focus QB throwing chart. All his above average areas where in the middle of the field, and that was it. Good intermediate thrower, doesn’t like to take the dink and dunk throws, and struggles completing balls down the field.
    I am weary and tired of Mark Sanchez and I have little faith in him, after giving him so much of my faith last year that he could turn his career around. It was a better Mark, but I think he takes more risks than his skill allows. Which leads to interceptions. Its been said before but he struggles with decision making and when his attitude shifts and his mood is down his play reflects that heavily.
    But yet, he has a chance to start again this year. I mean I hope he can be better.
    To me, that is the biggest surprise of the offseason. Not only that, but the fact that we can see that if Chip likes you enough, he will give you a second chance.
    But as of right now, it is pretty disgusting that Mark is on the QB roster. The best part about his game is his chemistry with J. Matthews.

  156. 156 GEAGLE said at 10:03 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Good stuff, you are spot on… Seeing Sanchez play like 10 games is my nightmare, but I do acknowledge he is as good of a backup as we can hope for, and I do believe he can be better in year two of an offense aorroundrd with more weapons and a better OL then last much better? Is better good enough? No idea, but if sam gets hurt I’ll be heartbroken because I really look forward to seeing what chip can do with the most talented QB he has ever worked with

  157. 157 lewis don said at 10:22 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I felt like I imposed a bad omen yesterday. I played Madden 15 with the new Eagles roster on All-Madden. Im an above average player and can win most games against the CPU. But Sam on my first ever drive with him on the Eagles threw an interception on his first pass. I ran a Shotgun trips left, with the TE on the right side. The play was a drag with Matthews at the WR1 and Ertz did a post route out to the right. I lead Matthews but didn’t see the ILB. I felt so disappointed. like Sam threw the interception in real life. QBs throw interceptions. But man. I can not imagine the level of hurt we will feel on every negative play by sam.
    The worst part is Demarco (WHO WAS KILLIN IT) got hurt on the next drive. R. Matthews fumbled, and M. Sanchez came in the game (Preseason game vs the patriots) and threw 2 touchdowns 10/15, before I put Tebow in and came back to win the game.
    Couplin had 3 interceptions playing FS including the one before the game winning FG.
    I cant wait for football season!
    but I just want the fans to not write off Sam so early if he struggles a bit.
    Also, was Travis Long a rookie last year? (Could have googled, too lazy)
    I keep feeling like he is a back-up-write-off type of player. But I feel like that’s kinda unfair considering he hasn’t gotten his chance really. I think hes a mystery to me. I would like to see what he can do. I vaguely remember him from the preseason game against the Jaguars. cant remember if that was recent or not.

  158. 158 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:19 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    You will see a lot of YAC if Sam Bradford plays like he has up to date.

    “since 2010, only 7 times did a quarterback pass for less than 3.0 yards before catch on the season (with a minimum of 250 attempts). Sam Bradford was the only quarterback to have two such seasons (2013 and 2010).Bradford joins Jimmy Clausen (in his rookie year), Blaine Gabbert (in his rookie year), Christian Ponder (in his second year) and perennial backups Chad Henne (in 2013) and Shaun Hill (in 2010) as the only quarterbacks to throw for FEWER than 3.0 yds BEFORE catch over an entire season (min 250 att) since 2010. But Bradford did it twice, something no other QB did. ”

    By the way, that’s not good.

  159. 159 lewis don said at 10:28 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Isnt that how this offense that Chip runs is designed?
    Lots of YAC plays, Power run from the Shotgun and the Big play catching you off guard trying to stop the consistent beating your taking from the regular attack.
    Doesn’t that mean Sam fits this offense?

  160. 160 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:33 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think Chip is more about exploiting whatever is open than trying to force a particular style of play. But perhaps it will be a good fit (I hope). My point is really that Sam Bradford well, sucks. If you read more in that article or anything that uses advanced stats, that will become apparent. Here’s to hoping he turns his career around and becomes good, but honestly, it’s not at all clear he’s better than (gulp) Mark Sanchez.

  161. 161 lewis don said at 10:42 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t say Sam Bradford sucks. Advanced stats do offer a lot of insight, but watching him combined with that would, imo maybe give a wider view. Is he talented, yes. has he produced to expectations. No he hasn’t. But I think there is reason to feel good about him if your relying on his ability and talent. Now his injury history, that’s something that sucks.

  162. 162 anon said at 10:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    the league caught up to the screen game, it’s been 2 years.

  163. 163 lewis don said at 10:54 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think your saying, teams are gonna play us close and force us to throw it intermediate or deep.
    Call me niave, I think with this cast of players around Sam, he can do it.
    I like his arm. I believe WR drops and a growing and bad o-line aided in Sams bad advanced statistics.
    But I think you can look at his skill and see what he has. Skill doesn’t always show up on the field for various reasons. I believe Sam is in the best place and I think he has the arm to do it.
    History is one thing. but seeing potential is another. Im sorry you don’t see it the way I do.
    I cant say Chips offense will be stagnant because hes been in the league two years and people know what hes gonna do.
    I like our WRs I love our RB, I think we will get a UDFA olinemen to work out. I see a growing program.

  164. 164 GEAGLE said at 10:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    What player hasnt had his best year in the chip kelly offense?

  165. 165 GermanEagle said at 8:18 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    My Eagles calendar must go down as one of the worst in the history of Football calendars.

    First Trent Cole in April, guess who’s spotting the month of May:


  166. 166 Mac said at 9:58 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    A printer and some tape can transform Foles into Bradford (or sanchez if you prefer).

    Edit: I think RobNE has given us our word of the day for today. The Eagles calendar is a sham!

  167. 167 GermanEagle said at 11:39 AM on May 7th, 2015:


  168. 168 anon said at 10:10 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    coop in february

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 8:27 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    opening night may have lost its luster….Steelers vs Patriots
    Both RBs suspended, Blount and Bell from getting in trouble smoking Pot together, and Brady will probably be suspended for opening night..
    After the beating Goodell took from Ray Rice case, and all the current players, former players and former GMs killing Brady in the news, doubt GOODELL and Troy Vincent can afford to not suspend Brady,,. This isn’t getting swept under the rug. Former players turned analysts are out for blood!
    But Belleck won’t get in trouble unless it’s for this happening under his command with his past SPYGATE history

  170. 170 Anders said at 8:43 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    The Steelers/Pats game was suppose to be great and now it will most likely become shitty

  171. 171 GermanEagle said at 8:55 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    It was never supposed to be great.

  172. 172 eagleyankfan said at 9:17 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Roger: Did you order the code: Deflate?
    Bili-Cheater: Your god damn right I did!

  173. 173 RobNE said at 8:39 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    What a coincidence the Wells report comes out after the draft so Pats can’t lose 2015 picks. The nfl is a sham.

    Edit: I mean the nfl disciplinary arm.

  174. 174 Mac said at 9:56 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    The NFL is a!

  175. 175 unhinged said at 10:24 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Any punishment the NFL could dole out would be almost incidental to the hit that whole franchise has taken in the public eye. Every sports page around the country is recounting the saga of “Tom Brady: Just Another Cheater…” It may be a little unfair, but it puts everything that organization has accomplished into question. Robert Kraft is developing a life-threatening tic.

  176. 176 anon said at 10:44 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    please they aren’taking those rings away so really no one cares, spy gate was a thing, but 10years later no one brings itup, just belichek is the best. nevermind that the only time theyve won titles is when they were cheating.

  177. 177 unhinged said at 12:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    We disagree.

  178. 178 BobSmith77 said at 12:19 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Winners write history.

  179. 179 unhinged said at 1:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Barry Bonds hit more home runs than any body else, but what is he known for?

  180. 180 anon said at 1:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You don’t think Billy B and Brady will be first ballot HOFs?

  181. 181 Cafone said at 1:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Hard to say at this point… How many times will they be caught cheating again before that ballot comes up?

  182. 182 unhinged said at 1:36 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think I’m being misunderstood. I am not in favor of taking trophies away from NE. I think that would be a more egregious over-reaction than the 2nd Rice verdict. I DO think that Brady ought to be suspended and probably will be a game or two. That will sting a bit, but I really do believe that the franchise is irrevocably tainted. I don’t think devoted NFL fans will let NE fans ever forget. That is what I see as the real damage. Brady and Belichick can say they’d rather be great than popular, but the greatest of all of the “spoils of war” is the love. On the subject of HOF, Bonds imo, should NOT go for the sin of chemically -induced advantage, and Brady should, because lying is not a disqualifier.

  183. 183 anon said at 2:01 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    you think his career was HOF worthy before the drugs?

  184. 184 anon said at 2:03 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Taking the ring would be an overreaction, but it wouldn’t be the first overreaction we’ve ever seen. I think that’s the only thing that would sting them enough that it would taint their legacy.

  185. 185 suthrneagle said at 10:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Brady`s lying about cheating(which is what the offense is, not the lies) is actually worse than Bonds` juicing, cause what he did affected many people, whereas Bonds was only in it for himself.

  186. 186 Cafone said at 1:09 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The Patriots are always cheating so of course they’ve only won titles when they are cheating. They also had many seasons where they didn’t win titles when they were cheating.

    The Patriots will be cheating this coming season too. We just won’t know how they are cheating for several years until they get caught again.

  187. 187 GEAGLE said at 8:39 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I hope someone in the media asks Riley Cooper: “What do you think about chips reputation being accused of Racism mostly because he gave you another chance and stood by you why you disgraced yourself and this organization with your vile and disgusting Bigotry. Should chip really have to put up with this for sticking by you when your career hit rock bottom?”.. “Do you think chip deserves this after putting his life into this game?”
    I really hope Riley Cooper has To answer that question with Cameras in his face

  188. 188 Dave said at 8:55 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    race–baiting /ˈreɪsˌbeɪtɪŋ/ noun
    [noncount] US, disapproving

    : the unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes of a particular group of people
    a politician who is being accused of race-baiting

  189. 189 BobSmith77 said at 12:09 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Why? To elicit more cheap quotes and continue to unnecessarily stir the pot?

    Even yesterday nationally after the 24-hour buzz of McCoy’s comments seemed to fade a bit the conversation shifted to ‘Kelly isn’t an outright racist but that are subconscious/subtle things possibly going on or that Kelly only prefers black players who speak & act in a certain manner (basically no street/ghetto language).’

    Could there possibly be some kernels of truth to the later part? I guess but no reporter will be able to ascertain that and it is largely pointless to speculate on it.

    The main issue is are black players being denied opportunities on the Eagles for which I think the answer is simply ‘no.’ If I had to venture a guess, it is more that Kelly is an egomaniac who doesn’t take kindly to anyone that disregards or challenges his authority especially in a public way.

  190. 190 P_P_K said at 1:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think there’s something to your point about subtle things going on. Certain characteristics that are considered “cool” or “street” by one group might be considered “immature” and “self-centered” by another. Similarly, asking for a certain type of cooperation or etiquette could be considered disresepctful or a demand for subservience.

  191. 191 GEAGLE said at 9:59 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Vikings release blitz cult favorite Henry Jose…

  192. 192 lewis don said at 10:02 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I Love his game! Reminds me of tiki barber a little. the way he bounces outside.

  193. 193 Bert's Bells said at 11:41 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I mostly remember Tiki bouncing the ball onto the turf.

  194. 194 anon said at 10:11 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    now that polk is gone….

  195. 195 anon said at 10:12 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Miles Austin may not end up being active on gamedays.
    Jordan Matthews, Nelson Agholor, Josh Huff and Riley Cooper will almost certainly dress. Seyi Aijrotutu is also expected to be “up” thanks to his special teams prowess. That leaves Austin without a role as a No. 5 wideout who doesn’t help on special teams.

  196. 196 Alistair Middlemiss said at 10:27 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think there is only so many special teams ace’s you can play on down, and a lot will depend on how other position battles work out. Think Austin has said he will play special teams and he did early at Dallas. Will be a very interesting Training camp, because i think from paper there are 60 people who could reasonably make the team (and that is expecting little from UDFA guys).

    Special teams especially will be brutal – if you want a contract and your a bottom 20 of the roster guy you better bring your A game.

  197. 197 peteike said at 12:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    One of Austins strengths early in his career was his toughness and breaking tackles. He could fit well in this scheme and I actually think he can do better than Cooper (or Im hoping at least) but may not have the red zone or ball skills that Cooper has (I should say had or shows flashes at times). Also remember Huff and Agholar are young. It would be unfortunate if Cooper gets locked in somehow at 3 or 4 just per his contract and/or past ability.

  198. 198 anon said at 1:03 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think the stat i heard was that some crazy % of Austin’s catches last years were 1st downs, big body, can block and make make chain moving catches (hopefully red zone catches). Agree that maybe he’s competition for the cooper role (how said is that), though at this point i’m not even sure what cooper’s role is.

  199. 199 Dominik said at 10:47 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Interesting article from Mosher, who talked to three scouts and a defensive assistant coach about the Eagles draft.

    I can’t say that Scout A is incompetent or anything. Maybe he’s really
    good. But I can say one thing: he and his team clearly are looking at
    different players on Defense, scheme wise, than the Eagles. A 6th round
    grade on Rowe, a UDFA grade on Hicks? I’m not saying he’s wrong for his team, but the needs for his team are clearly different. I can’t say Rowe will work out, I can’t say Hicks will work out. But those weren’t reaches, that’s for sure. Other teams would have picked those players in the ballpark of where the Eagles picked them.

  200. 200 RC5000 said at 10:59 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Re Hicks:

    Scout A

    I just think he was a thick, stout guy that can take on and shed but didn’t think he was a good athlete. His change of direction is not that great.

    Scout C

    Not a real physical player, not a downhill linebacker. He likes to run around blocks. But he does have good enough range where he can get to the ball. He’s more of a finesse guy.

  201. 201 Mitchell said at 12:03 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m pretty sure I could go in and take scout A’s job lol.

  202. 202 Dave said at 11:07 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I don’t know, maybe Tommy can answer this, but is it normal to only watch 2 games tapes on a guy…seems like you can miss a lot, good or bad.

    “Round 6, 196th overall: Randall Evans (6-0, 195), CB, Kansas State

    Scout B: “We actually brought him in for a workout. We put him on our board, sixth or seventh round, a guy we’d take a swing at. Big, long corner. We saw enough off his pro day and two games that we were fine with him as late draftable guy.”

  203. 203 Dominik said at 11:14 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Those were my thoughts, exactly, too. Yes, we’re talking 6th round. But I would prefer the Scouts, Marynowitz and Kelly watching more than two games and their Pro Day before they pick a player.

  204. 204 Avery Greene said at 2:41 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Considering how thorough our guys are, I have no doubt they watched a ton of tape on everyone.

  205. 205 D3FB said at 5:21 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Area scout has probably watched almost all film on anybody in his region he has a draftable grade on.

    A position coach/GM/head coach/scout from another region may have only watched a game or two.

  206. 206 A_T_G said at 12:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    To be fair, you are making an assumption that , “‘Scout A’ is the director of college scouting for an AFC team.” is referring to a football team, rather than the Associated Faternities of Crocheting, which would have very limited interest in Rowe or Hicks. Neither one of them has the belly ideal for supporting the forearms during extended crocheting sessions.

  207. 207 Bebin Abraham said at 11:12 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m thankful everyday for hd video. Without hd we’d be watching most of the film on these guys wondering why they were recorded using a potato.

  208. 208 botto said at 12:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    dang Nelson looks good and now our WR corps looks pretty sweet just like that.
    this guy gets up the field quickly and is tough.
    he seems perfect for the eagles offense.
    Bradford is going to go off this year with these guys

  209. 209 BobSmith77 said at 12:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I can’t believe the amount of national attention, time and energy devoted to ‘Deflategate.’

    Sadly the reason that the NFL has invested so much time and energy in it is because it will attract attention away from the more unsavory elements of the NFL (eg, spousal/girlfriend abuse, concussions issues, etc) or the financial aspects of the league including the ridiculous amount of public subsidies they receive.

  210. 210 anon said at 12:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Every sport has these skeletons, i’m glad they are coming out of the closet. Boxing obviously, but also women’s soccer, women’s basketball — should Brittney Griner be out 6 months b/c she hit her fiance?

    The problem with the NFL is they mishandled a high profile case and took so much heat that they’ve gone overboard the wrong way when it serves their purpose from a legal PR standpoint but it’s still the same old thing otherwise.

  211. 211 Jernst said at 2:21 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I doubt the NFL wants anything other than this to go away. And, I highly doubt they are purposefully generating attention for it to somehow distract from all the other issues which there wasn’t a current media firestorm brewing. Having the Super Bowl winner acused of cheating for the second time in the past decade is definitely not good for business.

  212. 212 Jernst said at 12:34 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Saw Jimmy’s article regarding Dave Spadaro not mentioning Kendricks during his LB preview. Wow, if Kendrick’s really isn’t part of the Eagles’ plans this year, I think they are being way overly optimistic in regards to their depth at ILB. Everyone seems to look at the depth chart and sees the names, out of context, and assumes we are overflowing with players at the position. I see Kendricks as the only sure thing in a sea of question marks.

    If Kiko is healthy and returns to form from his ACL tear, which is a reasonable assumption given the August timeframe of his injury last year, he’s one of the two starters at ILB. But, it is no guarantee that he returns to form after a second ACL tear and is the same borderline dominant player he was as a rookie in 2013. ACLs are not as devastating as they used to be so there’s every reason to believe he’ll be fine, but the guy is still rehabbing and we haven’t seen him play yet, so it’s still a question.

    At the other spot, who is the starter week one if not Kendricks? Do you really rely on a 31 year old that will be less than 9 months removed from his second Achilles tendon rupture by the time the pre-season is underway to be the presumptive starter at ILB. Achilles ruptures are devastating injuries. They’re one of the few injuries that still routinely end professional football careers. Even in young healthy players that do make it back from these injuries, they often are not anywhere close to the same player they were for at least 2 years. These injuries completely sap players of their speed and explosion. Can we really just assume that Ryans, at his age, coming off his second Achilles rupture, is just going to bounce back to being the exact same player he was last year? Remember he was injured in mid November and probably didn’t have his surgery for a week or two after the injury. I think that is incredibly risky and overly optimistic. I wouldn’t count on him or rely on him for anything this year and if he was able to just provide excellent depth and leadership that would be a huge plus in my eyes. Otherwise, get ready to watch him struggle mightily in coverage this year.

    Otherwise, if Ryans can’t go or falls off a cliff physically after this injury, and Kendricks is traded, we’re looking at a 3rd round rookie, with a tremendous injury history, being the starter with Brad Jones and Najee Goode as the backups. Again, that’s not nearly as stocked at the ILB position as people make it out to be. I’d have to get really good return on a Kendricks trade to go into the season with one guy still rehabbing from an ACL and another a 31 year old who is currently rehabbing his second Achilles rupture from November as my penciled in starters with little proven NFL depth behind them.

    Whereas, Kendricks and Kiko as the starters with Ryans rehabbing and a Rookie with upside backing them up, actually does sound like a good amount of depth and hedging of one’s bets. I haven’t read Dave’s article, but perhaps he was just focusing on the new guys and the guys returning from injury and left out Kendricks for that reason. Or, at least I hope.

  213. 213 A_T_G said at 12:47 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think you might be overreacting. Has a warrior, like DeMeco, ever had their career cut short because of an Achilles injury?

  214. 214 Jernst said at 6:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yes…of course they have

  215. 215 A_T_G said at 6:32 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I was going with a little humor, a reference to the namesake of the the body part, Achilles the Greek warrior.

  216. 216 Jernst said at 6:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Warrior……I’m an idiot

  217. 217 A_T_G said at 7:00 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Nah, it wasn’t my best work.

  218. 218 Jernst said at 6:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

  219. 219 Jernst said at 12:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    after reading Dave’s LB blurb, I think some might be reading too much into it. He says that the LB corp has been bolstered by the additions of Kiko, Hicks and Jones and the return of health of DeMeco and Najee Goode. That’s it. Didn’t talk about the roster, or depth chart in general, just mentioning the additions and the players coming back from injury. That’s why Kendricks wasn’t listed. At least I hope.

  220. 220 RC5000 said at 1:06 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I was going to post something like that. It probably wasn’t a deliberate omission, he may have been thinking in a different context since he said bolstered,yada yada…

  221. 221 peteike said at 1:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    fans reading anything into what Spadaro says is a tad funny no

  222. 222 Flyin said at 1:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Actually Tommy has this power. He passes the reflecting light of off Dave’s shiny bald head through a prism, refracting it to find the hidden meaning behind his words.

  223. 223 xeynon said at 5:11 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I hope they’re not thinking of dumping Kendricks. He may not have the size Kelly covets, and he may have done something to rub Kelly the wrong way (though I have seen absolutely zero evidence of any sort of attitude problem, unlike with DJax and Shady). But he’s a proven high-level performer in this defense. Swapping him out for a question mark would be risky if not plain stupid.

  224. 224 anon said at 12:54 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    It now makes perfect sense why the Pats had to cut Tebow, no way he would have stayed quiet about this sort of trickery.

  225. 225 botto said at 12:56 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    they would’ve had to have had a confessional booth in the locker room

  226. 226 b3nz0z said at 12:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    is it wrong to make a glory hole joke here? i feel like it might be wrong

  227. 227 Cafone said at 1:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I am wondering if Jordan Hicks can be considered a good benchmark indicator for the ability of the new player personnel team in terms of evaluating college talent.

    He was a player that it seems many others had thought would go later, but Chip and the boys thought the opposite and drafted him as a BPA at a position where there was not immediate need.

    Obviously one player does not tell the whole story, but it seems that Hicks is an example of an instance where the Eagles’ opinion differed significantly from both the “experts” and the other teams.

  228. 228 anon said at 1:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    we’ll see. Had great stats when he wasn’t injured. Taking fliers on injured guys could be our competitive advantage.

  229. 229 peteike said at 1:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Id bet they have some kind of advanced metrics on injured players or coming back from injury vs the likelihood of injury. Seems almost inevitable at most positions anyway over the course of a career.

  230. 230 xeynon said at 5:14 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Or we could end up with 20 guys on IR and a bunch of street free agents playing out a 6-10 season. Injury-prone guys are generally discounted for a reason, and if you’re a believer in the efficient market hypothesis it’s unlikely any feasible method for lowering the frequency at which injuries occur has already been discovered and exploited. The data suggests that injury rates from team to team are pretty much random but that there are certain players who are more brittle than others, so Chip is going against the probabilities here.

  231. 231 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I think having read several articles and opinions on him from scouts and analysts there was a massive range of opinion about him. I believe the report the Bengals would have taken him with the pick behind the Eagles.

    Some teams had a 7th/UDFA grade on him – some teams (including eagles) had a late 2nd round. Depends on how people evaluate LB’s. He has all the physical tools and character to be a good NFL player, but he lacks play instincts and ‘toughness’ that some teams view as a requirement for the position. Eagles obviously think they can teach/develop the latter given his limited playing time.

  232. 232 eagleyankfan said at 3:06 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    he lacks play instincts and ‘toughness’ that some teams view as a requirement for the position. — cough — Casey Mathews….

  233. 233 A_T_G said at 1:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I rewatched the Agholor highlights again, and it confirms that he was drafted at the right spot, using my patented method. Most of his highlights were shown only from one angle, equating to a first round grade. There were a few exception, which probably led to him being available in the second half of the first round.

  234. 234 botto said at 1:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I agree, all of ODB’s highlights last year were a similar angle with no exceptions, henceforth, pick 16…

  235. 235 bsuperfi said at 1:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I just read an article on BGN discussing how much the Eagles relied on SPARQ. It made me wonder whether they use or are thinking about using a metric for the intangibles that could be combined with SPARQ to create a composite score or used alone.

    I could easily imagine each person who meets with a prospect filling out a survey that targets different categories of a prospect’s mental makeup (e.g. drive, culture fit, etc.). The team could then track prospects they acquire and don’t acquire to test their data.

    Anyway, just noodling about how to bring some social science into the mix to complement the more “objective” SPARQ ratings.

  236. 236 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:17 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Think it is almost impossible to make accurate off the field scores based on the lack of information on players, and the amount of mis-information college teams put out (they want their players to go as high as possible).

    SPARQ ratings work because they are 100% objective and data driven, but any character assessment score would vary scout to scout.

  237. 237 bsuperfi said at 1:21 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I hear what you’re saying, but there are good ways to control for this. First, only let people in your organization fill out the survey. Second, use strong methodology. There are lots of tools the team could use, like inter-rater reliability checks. This basically makes sure people are on the same page with their ratings. If there’s not sufficient IRR for a player, toss out the data for that particular person.

  238. 238 Mitchell said at 1:21 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That’s why you standardize your measurement. For example, I’ve heard of scouts waiting in bars to see how many times a player would come in. Say if the player came in 1 or less in a week, they get a score of 0. They come in 1-3 times they get a score of 1, etc, etc. Wonderlic score, GPA, attendance in honor societies, volunteer work, etc, could all be part of the metric.

  239. 239 bsuperfi said at 1:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    For what it’s worth, Wonderlic scores are considered pretty terrible measures. In the testing field, we talk about this as being invalid because the scores don’t actually correspond to the right “construct” in someone’s head (i.e. how well they process football information).

    Clearly the Eagles think psychological makeup is important. I’m trying to think about a way where they can find their psychological prototype for each position along with the physical prototype.

  240. 240 Mitchell said at 1:31 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    There are a multitude of personality tests already used by psychology. All they would have to due is find the one that fits them the best and then give the test to their prospects. I do consider the wonderlic to be a generally crappy assessment of ability however the measurement could be 0-10 you get a low score, 10-20 better and 20 and above better still. It says in the article the lowest scores were Claibourne and Vince Young. Both of those players are out of the league due to whatever reasons but they did both score a terrible wonderlic.

  241. 241 bsuperfi said at 1:42 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    It’s not a bad idea. They could make a frankenstein test cobbled together from lots of different ones. Reusing test items is a time honored tradition.

  242. 242 GermanEagle said at 1:30 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wonder what score I would get?! Lol

  243. 243 Mitchell said at 1:32 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Lol. Coach: “How many times did he come in?” Scout: “Well…… uhhhhh…….He never left, sir.” Coach: “So just once then?…… Great!”

  244. 244 A_T_G said at 2:06 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You are on to something here. The Digitized Uniform Measure of Behavior, Aspiritations, and Social Strengths, a.k.a. the DUMBASS rating.

    Honestly, I bet this is done regularly, internally, and quietly to avoid any ugliness such information could be used to imply.

  245. 245 eagleyankfan said at 3:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I honestly don’t think Chip does anything without a way of measuring/graphing it. He seems to always have something to support his actions.

  246. 246 Joe Minx said at 1:39 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Welp that La’El Collins dream is dead.

    Get ready to hate him now.

  247. 247 botto said at 1:46 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    what happened? giants?

  248. 248 Joe Minx said at 1:46 PM on May 7th, 2015:


    Un f’ing real.

  249. 249 jpate said at 1:47 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    cowboys. shit

  250. 250 botto said at 1:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:


  251. 251 BreakinAnklez said at 2:03 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    F’ing a man. That’s now 4 straight first round talents on their Oline, all whom have been a hit so far. Smith, Collins, Fredericks, Martin, ????

  252. 252 mksp said at 2:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    So badly wished Jerry took Johnny last year.

    Whatever. Will be good test for the line.

  253. 253 Anders said at 2:09 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And in 2 years they will have no qb but an ol who they will have to pay a ton

  254. 254 BreakinAnklez said at 2:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And a QB whom they will still be paying. They owe Romo $ until the end of time at this point.

  255. 255 xeynon said at 5:16 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Cowboys have to be the favorite to win the division at this point.

  256. 256 Nailed it! said at 1:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That Dallas Line is ridiculous. Now really won’t matter who runs behind that line. Fuck.

  257. 257 Anders said at 1:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Last I checked, the Cowboys got handled by the Eagles

  258. 258 anon said at 1:59 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    yeah i block out that game where dez is abusing our secondary as well.

  259. 259 Anders said at 2:08 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I meant ol in the run game

  260. 260 Dominik said at 2:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I really want to throw up. There was 1 location that would have been great, 28 that would have been ok, 2 that would have been pretty bad and the one freaking location that really sucks just turned out to be his choice. God damnit.

    But apart from us not getting him, why the hell does he sign there? I guess every team would have fully guar. his low UDFA salary. Why do you go to a team where you’re not even the RT of the future?? I guess he can win a camp battle against Free, but Martin is their RT of the future. And Smith isn’t going anywhere for a looooong time at LT.

    I really don’t get it. And not only because I hate the Cowboys, I don’t get it out of his perspective.

    We all like to make jokes about Jerry Jones (myself included), but he did a phenomenal job there. The team with the best O-Line in the league just got a player where money was literally no issue, but competition and potential playing time was. Even if Collins made a stupid decision, you have to recruit him.

  261. 261 Insomniac said at 2:09 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Collins is a lifelong Cowshit fan and I’m guessing Jones told him that Free and whoever their no name LG is his only competition.

  262. 262 Dominik said at 2:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    He won’t play Tackle for 2 years. He will want a new contract in 2 years. Getting good money as a Guard is tougher than getting good money playing Tackle.

    And don’t forget: you can get lost in that OL. Everyone loves Martin and Smith, Frederick has made a good name for himself. The perception in two years could be: yeah, he was part of a great Line. But the Line was great before he was there, so are we really willing to pay big money for him?

    Being a childhood fan and all of that is nice, but imo, it was not a good decision for him. Not because I hate the decision, but because he could have found a team where he would have been RT from Day 1. Or at least a team where he could be a Guard this year and a Tackle next year or the year after that the latest.

  263. 263 Insomniac said at 2:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Free could be cut next year so he could transition from OG to OT in a year there.

  264. 264 Dominik said at 2:27 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Zack Martin would not approve that message. You can bet he wants to play Tackle himself to make more money with his second contract. And he played great as a Rookie, I don’t know if you want to piss him off.

  265. 265 Insomniac said at 2:31 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That’s not really our problem though. They have some nasty physical players..lets hope Martin and Collins takes out Sean Lee and Gregory this year too.

  266. 266 GermanEagle said at 1:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The Cowboys basically got three 1st round picks…
    The Eagles might regret this one..

  267. 267 anon said at 1:52 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wow, so they stole randy gregory and Collins and they only have to pay Collins the min for 4 years?

  268. 268 GermanEagle said at 1:55 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    But #CultureWins…

  269. 269 Anders said at 1:55 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    No way ain’t, after 2 years he will want a new contract and they have to tag him as a first rounder after 3

  270. 270 Dominik said at 1:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    3 years. But that doesn’t make this any less sucking.

  271. 271 Anders said at 1:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Last I checked gregory was a 2nd rounder or else you can argue a lot of teams got 2 first rounders

  272. 272 GermanEagle said at 2:28 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That’s Milky Way argumentation.

  273. 273 Avery Greene said at 2:36 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    With caramel and chocolate? That’s my kind of argument!

  274. 274 GermanEagle said at 2:47 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Double chocolate, mate.

  275. 275 Anders said at 3:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Isn’t part of a players talent his size (weight), health (also mental) and him not been suspended?

  276. 276 GermanEagle said at 3:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You have to ask Adam Schefter:
    So Cowboys come out of draft with CB Byron Jones, DE Randy Gregory, OL La’el Collins – three players once projected as first-round picks.

  277. 277 ACViking said at 5:45 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Eagles have Matt Barkely . . .

    once projected as a 1st Rd pick

  278. 278 Anders said at 6:39 AM on May 9th, 2015:

    Eric Rowe was once projected as a 1st rounder, Matt Barkley was projected 1st rounder.

  279. 279 GermanEagle said at 12:10 PM on May 9th, 2015:

    Last time I checked Matt Barkley was not drafted this year. I give you Eric Rowe though.
    Still gutted that La’el is now with the Cowboys!

  280. 280 Anders said at 12:48 PM on May 9th, 2015:

    My point with Barkley is that projected 1st rounder means nothing

  281. 281 GermanEagle said at 5:51 PM on May 9th, 2015:

    And my point was that your point was pointless.

  282. 282 Joe Minx said at 1:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m really angry over this but I don’t see how you can blame the Eagles. Nobody drafted the guy & for obvious reasons. I just don’t understand why the F he went to that place first & decided to sign there when it was stated his preference was to go to a place where he could play tackle. F’ing shit.

  283. 283 GermanEagle said at 2:00 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Little Friday just got a much bigger F****!

  284. 284 Dominik said at 2:23 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    We don’t know if the Eagles recruited him or not. If not, I would like to blame them. If they did and he just chose another team, there is nothing they could have done. With money being equal, you can only make your best pitch and hope.

  285. 285 Dominik said at 2:13 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Short term, it’s just hell. They probably can’t afford to pay Martin, Frederick AND Collins long term, along with Smith, Dez and Romo in the books until around 2028.

    But as soon as Romo is gone, they will have huge problems anyway. They are in win now and getting someone like Collins for free just help you to win now in a big way. We’ll start Barbre/Tobin at RG, they have 4 young, elite talents in that line.

    I felt great that they didn’t draft a RB and want to go with Mr. 3.3 YPC McFadden. But Collins negates the fact that they don’t have a good RB to some extend.

  286. 286 Joe Minx said at 2:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah, there’s just no good way to spin this. This sucks major deek for the Eagles.

  287. 287 Dominik said at 2:21 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Right! I’m not saying we won’t have a chance against them or anything like that, that would be stupid. But it just got a whole lot tougher to beat them.

    If your rival gets a 1st round talent without investing a draft pick and with paying him UDFA money for 2, maybe even 3 years is just really, really bad. Having a huge need for young talent at the position yourself makes it even worse.

  288. 288 peteike said at 2:39 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    nah, no decent RB is going to hurt them I think. That team revolved around Demarco last season big time imo. Unless, is it Tanner that looked okay at times? can step up. Dont get me wrong, I still think they are the favorite for the division without a doubt.

  289. 289 xeynon said at 5:19 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I’m not too worried about Gregory. The guy is a 6’6″, 228 pound outside linebacker and was dumb enough to smoke dope two weeks before he knew he was going to be drug tested. He’s got “bust” written all over him.

    Jones and Collins, though… yeah, the Cowboys getting them I don’t like one bit.

  290. 290 anon said at 1:53 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Cowboys president Stephen Jones compared Darren McFadden to DeMarco
    Murray regarding the injuries they sustained early in their careers.

    If only Dallas would have ponied up for a real running back.

  291. 291 GermanEagle said at 1:56 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Shhhhhh! They could still trade their 5th round pick next year for AP and would basically end up with 4 1st round picks…

  292. 292 anon said at 1:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    they can’t possibly have the $$ for that, right? It’d be amazing if Kelly coming coincided with the resurgence of the Cowboys and they kept us out of the playoffs two years straight.

  293. 293 BreakinAnklez said at 2:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    This year sure…next year….I dunno. The Cowboys might be screwed. They keep pushing Romo’s money into future years. He can’t be cut without a major cap hit and they are screwing themselves by continuing to push his money out.

  294. 294 anon said at 2:11 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    i’m going to be excited for the time where he literally can’t play and they have to take like a $50m cap hit just to cut him.

  295. 295 Jernst said at 2:16 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    With his contract, they literally can’t cut him for another 2 seasons without crippling themselves financially. They better hope his geriatric, multiply surgically repaired back holds up for, at least, another 32 games.

  296. 296 Jernst said at 2:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Romo will end up on the Cowboys payroll books till he’s 47.

  297. 297 Avery Greene said at 2:34 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Or Kelly is the NFC East to the Cowboys being the Bills.

  298. 298 Insomniac said at 1:59 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Good lord I hope they don’t end up taking Zeke Elliot next year.

  299. 299 anon said at 2:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    wow, that could be the plan, hopefully someone takes him earlier. I’d jump up and take him just so the cowboys dont get him

  300. 300 Insomniac said at 2:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I would fucking hate it if they did. Elliot is one of those few game changing RBs and they’ll have a good OL despite no QB in a few years? It makes me sick just thinking about it.

  301. 301 Anders said at 2:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Elliot should go top 10 no matter what draft

  302. 302 Insomniac said at 2:11 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I know but the last time I checked Jerry Jones is still alive.

  303. 303 Anders said at 3:17 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    So he trades up for a rb? Please let him do it because they will have a super old romo

  304. 304 Insomniac said at 5:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Elliot is special though. He can take over a game.

  305. 305 Anders said at 5:28 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Even the best rbs hasn’t been able to will their teams to play off wins. Also the Eagles are constructed to counter a run heavy team

  306. 306 anon said at 5:33 PM on May 7th, 2015:


  307. 307 Anders said at 6:38 AM on May 9th, 2015:

    yea because that no. 1 ranked Defense and Wilson has nothing to do with it

  308. 308 Insomniac said at 5:47 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Marshawn Lynch.

  309. 309 Insomniac said at 1:59 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    La’El Collins sucks

  310. 310 76mustang said at 2:00 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Why Deflategate matters:

    Belichick has established the Patriot Way as the foundation of how to compete for championships. At the core of his tenets are values and practices rooted in leadership, discipline, self-sacrifice, and winning. Couple that with a military-style chain of command hierarchy, and you have a model you can extrapolate actions and decisions from.

    As brilliant a strategist and tactician Bill Bilichick has demonstrated himself to be, it’s not a stretch to imagine him embracing and adopting the use of plausible deniability into his organizational oversight, especially by those in positions of leadership. Fist rule of the Patriot Way, don’t talk about the Patriot Way. This is why it’s not surprising to see ownership and coaching staff exonerated in the Wells report.

    But it’s also easy to imagine a scenario where the QB room is discussing throwing mechanics and the effect an under-inflated or over-inflated ball can have on the results. And it’s not much more of a stretch to imagine that the QBs experimented with ball pressures in varying conditions and that measurements (release velocity, ball rotation, grip pressure, accuracy) were taken and analyzed.

    Would it be going too far to then suggest that support staff were versed in ball preparation and expectations from none other than Brady himself?

    See, I don’t think this is a small matter in the sense of Brady liked the feel of the ball better at this inflation pressure and it had no real effect on the game.
    If that was the case, then why change the pressure at all?

    What I would like to see is a case study conducted on the effects of under-inflation for both the QB and receivers. Take a group of 10 QBs of varying height, hand size, arm strength, and throwing motions, and another group of diverse receivers and go to town measuring the effects in varying temperatures and conditions. You could do this multiple times tracking thousands of throws and derive conclusive results.

    If Brady was able to complete just one tight window throw, or a receiver make a challenging catch due to an under-inflated ball, and you can prove that it produced a competitive advantage, then it’s not just a gamesmanship offense.

    And don’t worry Patriots fans, BB will button up the text message evidence trail to keep from having that occur again. The deep background checking and testing all support staff will undergo in the hiring process coupled with ongoing scrutiny will assure the Patriot Way remains intact.

  311. 311 oreofestar said at 2:06 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    F Dallas

  312. 312 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:11 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    To be honest he went to the vomit worthy team that he supported as a kid. It makes no sense from a career perspective – is like one of the few teams in the league where he will not start this year, but he decided to follow his black hart and sign for the demon star.

  313. 313 Insomniac said at 2:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Maybe he’s just spying on them for 3 years before coming here in his prime? I know I’m in denial…

  314. 314 oreofestar said at 2:13 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    He’ll start over Leary but still what the hell

  315. 315 Mitchell said at 2:13 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Pretty sure Free’s job could be had as well.

  316. 316 oreofestar said at 2:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Didn’t he just get a 15mil extension though?

  317. 317 Insomniac said at 2:17 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    They’re going to gut their team to sign their star players next time. Free is gone next year unless Collins is absolute garbage.

  318. 318 oreofestar said at 2:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    They got 3 first rounders that’s not fair lol

  319. 319 Insomniac said at 2:21 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I didn’t want to do it but I’m hoping Byron Jones and Collins bust.

  320. 320 oreofestar said at 2:22 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And Gregory too,

  321. 321 Mitchell said at 2:31 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    No idea, I just know he played like poo for a good while.

  322. 322 anon said at 2:11 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Superbowl predictions — is Indy the fav? Do we have a chance?

  323. 323 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:13 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    IF everything clicks – Bradford lives up to his potential, everyone stays fit and we find a solutions at CB2 and S2 then we have the most complete roster since 2004 and i could see us making waves.

    Lots of IF’s tho. Think 10-11 wins is what i expect with so many changes to bed in.

  324. 324 anon said at 2:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    If everything clicks and given our schedule i think we could got 13wins. Defense looks way better than it has in a long time. We’ll see this year whether our coaches are worth anything.

  325. 325 xeynon said at 5:23 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I’m predicting 8-8, based on my expectations that the aging O line doesn’t stay healthy, Bradford proves to be the mediocre QB he’s been in the NFL to this point, and all the roster turnover at the skill positions results in continuity-based problems early in the season. I think 10-6 or 11-5 is the ceiling as far as reasonable expectations go.

  326. 326 peteike said at 2:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    all good folks, once Romos back takes another dinger, he could be done and then what. Hes their ace in the hole anyway compared to the rest of the division if were honest. I realize me saying this is funny when Bradford is our guy but you hope Sam has some years ahead of him if he stays upright.

  327. 327 A_T_G said at 2:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I just realized that I’m almost 100% certain that La’el is guilty.

  328. 328 oreofestar said at 2:13 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Only reason they would sign him

  329. 329 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    ROFL – no smoke without fire AMIRITE?

  330. 330 Mac said at 2:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    When you’re right, you’re not always happy about it. Sorry guys 🙁



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  331. 331 anon said at 2:17 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    so this is your fault?

  332. 332 Mac said at 2:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Humor turned into prophecy. Seems appropriate for Dallas no?

  333. 333 mksp said at 2:16 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The La’el news sucks, but at least we have one of the better defensive lines in the league along with improved ILBs. The games will be fun.

    WAS & NYG are going to get road-graded though.

  334. 334 GermanEagle said at 2:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    As much as I hate to say, but the Cowboys are the team to beat in the NFC East. F Dallas.

  335. 335 mksp said at 2:26 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yep. Won last year. Really only lost Murray, but added three 1st round picks somehow.

  336. 336 Avery Greene said at 2:27 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    We still have the better coach and better defense. We’ll give em hell.

  337. 337 mksp said at 2:28 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah, I’m not sweating it. The games should be exciting. Our strength matches up with theirs.

  338. 338 anon said at 2:31 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    our secondary is way better, hopefully we wont get embarrassed like we did last year with that Tony Romo thumbs up.

  339. 339 peteike said at 2:35 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    if they dont address RB, I think it hurts them big time unless that backup rb can step up. Really not feeling much of anything about McFadden, he doesnt scare anyone. I think that team revolved around Demarco quite a lot last season. If teams can get away with nickel and creative coverages and blitzes it can hurt them.

  340. 340 oreofestar said at 2:42 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Also think this. As much as everyone praises their O line they are honestly pretty average in pass pro and this will likely be a passing team.

  341. 341 oreofestar said at 2:28 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    What an ass you chose to go to s team simply because that’s the team you rooted for even if it isn’t in the best interest of your career

  342. 342 peteike said at 2:32 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    ya, great point and other kid getting a tattoo reminds you of naive, young love. One inkling of adversity and it will hopefully be fun to see the epic implosion

  343. 343 Insomniac said at 2:33 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Maybe we can poach him and Martin in 3 years

  344. 344 Anders said at 5:26 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I hope we do not have to ever over pay a guard in FA. When was the last time we had to sign a big name fa guard?

  345. 345 Insomniac said at 5:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You need good guards for a stable OL. You pay good players and good guards are not an exception to that rule.

  346. 346 Anders said at 6:23 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    True, but average guards gets grossly overpaid in FA compare to OT, so rather not have to pay for a position who should be easy to draft for

  347. 347 Anders said at 3:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    How is it not in his interest to go to the Cowboys and be over hyped and voted to the pro bowl just because he is on the Cowboys

  348. 348 D3FB said at 5:13 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Remind me again why Vinny should stay here for less money than going to a 43 team?

  349. 349 anon said at 5:17 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    BG thought he’d get more $$ in a 43 (though maybe he lost to much weight to go back to being a DE?)

    Is BG now our only LB that can’t play in space? I’m excited about this front 7 — should be a monster. More excited about the defense on this team than the offense.

  350. 350 D3FB said at 5:34 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    BG’s abilities are massively overhyped by the “well if you project a guy who has 5 sack playing 20% of the snaps that means he will have 25 as an every down player” crowd.

    Also if we exclude BG’s lost year to injury and VC’s lost year to Washburn the sack numbers look like:
    VC: 13 in 2 years
    BG: 17 in 4 years.

    BG is still by far the weakest link in our front 7. He’s gone from “hide the children” in coverage to “blah”. He’s ok if you run directly at him, but he’s god awful against pulling blockers. While he’s an ok pass rusher he doesn’t really have the speed to threaten the edge and set other moves up.

  351. 351 anon said at 5:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I echo these sentiments. Be nice to see MS II earn some playing time.

  352. 352 oreofestar said at 5:51 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I was one of the few who didn’t really want Graham resigned and I agree he is still clearly the weak link in the front 7

  353. 353 anon said at 6:08 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    agree, but had no choice that’s an expensive position

  354. 354 oreofestar said at 5:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    He shouldn’t honestly. you’ve never heard those words come out of my mouth

  355. 355 D3FB said at 6:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m referencing the general sentiment rather than you specifically

  356. 356 ACViking said at 7:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    But coach,

    You’re overlooking how all the Eagles players want to stay at below-market rates so they can play for Chip — because, you know, they all wanna be part of this amazing team.

    Right? You’ve read that on this blog.

    Oops . . . I mean besides Maclin.

  357. 357 oreofestar said at 8:47 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    OK I see, I’m going to try and be fair and say if I was a football I’d rather rather play for the Eagles than any other but I would have to have my career m paycheck in mind

  358. 358 oreofestar said at 2:30 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Nelson’s contact is almost entirely guaranteed

  359. 359 mksp said at 2:31 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Think it’s pretty boilerplate for the #20 pick. Only negotiating point under the current CBA is usually the offset language.

  360. 360 Avery Greene said at 2:31 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m beginning to think this was La’el’s plan all along.

  361. 361 oreofestar said at 2:34 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Don’t think costing himself millions was part of the plan lol

  362. 362 oreofestar said at 2:35 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Well I’m sorry to say that I’m just waiting for Romo to freaking break

  363. 363 Avery Greene said at 2:39 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The story of the Cowboys season will be about their offensive line. And again our dline will be marginalized in the media. Then they will go out and the defense will shut down this offense.

    I’m. Not. Worried.

  364. 364 HawaiianEagle said at 2:40 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And in the “more important to the Eagles” column…Eagles sign another rookie…

    Signed Rookies

    WR Nelson Agholor
    DB Eric Rowe
    CB Randall Evans
    DE Brian Mihalik

    Unsigned Rookies

    LB Jordan Hicks
    CB JaCorey Shepherd

  365. 365 Avery Greene said at 2:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wow, Roseman is more efficient doing just the contracts.

  366. 366 Insomniac said at 3:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That remains to be seen though.

  367. 367 eagleyankfan said at 3:08 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    lmao. The latest agreement, it’s a lot easier to slot the players to a pay scale. Gone are days of them holding out…

  368. 368 Flying B-Dawk said at 2:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    If Brady gets suspended for week 1, then it will suck extra that we didn’t get that opening day game

  369. 369 mksp said at 2:59 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’d rather play Tom Brady than Jimmy Garroppolo when the entire story line will be about deflate gate.

    Will be more instructive with regard to our actual talent level. Beating a Patriots team without Brady does nothing for me.

  370. 370 Flying B-Dawk said at 3:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I just want to make sure we get into the playoffs. I’ve seen the Giants win two superbowls going 9-7 and 10-6 in the regular season. Once you get in, you never know

  371. 371 Bert's Bells said at 3:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    “I’d rather play Tom Brady than Jimmy Garroppolo”

    The first time these words were ever said.

  372. 372 mksp said at 3:11 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I hate playing teams when they’re undermanned. I enjoy the narrative of sports, which means well-played games.

    Hate “empty” wins.

  373. 373 GermanEagle said at 3:41 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    But a win is a win is a wins is a win…

  374. 374 mksp said at 3:56 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah I get it. At the same time, if we went 19-0 and won a super bowl because every single team forfeited, would you really be that excited?

  375. 375 GermanEagle said at 4:33 PM on May 7th, 2015:


  376. 376 GermanEagle said at 3:00 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    i wouldn’t mind if Brady gets suspended the last 5 regular season games…

  377. 377 Midnight_Greenville said at 3:30 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    He will get suspended 4 games; their fourth game, of course, is at Dallas.

  378. 378 GermanEagle said at 2:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Dallas is a sham.

  379. 379 oreofestar said at 2:52 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    If Bradford isn’t healthy you can hand them the NFC East

  380. 380 GermanEagle said at 2:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Same applies to Romo.

  381. 381 Insomniac said at 3:08 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Collins takes out Romo in camp. Bye bye Dallas.

  382. 382 Mac said at 2:55 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    All of my upvotes!

  383. 383 GermanEagle said at 2:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I can’t see even one!!!

  384. 384 Flying B-Dawk said at 2:59 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Not sure if you’re being serious calling them a sham or not, but I think they’re going to surprise on the downside (I see them winning 7-8 games). I honestly think that the Giants are more of a threat than the Cowboys. I know everyone likes to talk about how great their offensive line is, but they have some major problems that get overlooked. Does anyone remember that they had one of the worst defenses in the history of the game? How Tony Romo’s back is held together with gum and fishing string? How they lost their leading running back?

  385. 385 unhinged said at 6:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Not to rain on your Hate the Hardyboys parade, but until we prove otherwise, Romo is the best QB in the division, Dez is the best receiver in 7 divisions, and they are the reigning champions of the division. Talk can be very cheap.

  386. 386 ACViking said at 6:51 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    And YES.

    Dallas is a good, well coached football team.

  387. 387 BlindChow said at 9:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And how people here said those exact same things last year?

  388. 388 BobSmith77 said at 2:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Good to see that Dallas is doing the best they can to truly have reasons to despise them again. Owens was amusing and when they had Parcells as the coach they easy to dislike.

    I have loathed them though since the heyday of the 90s when they had Johnson/Switzer as their coaches. Just need a coach that is more unlikeable than the bland Garrett.

  389. 389 Mac said at 3:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    He’s redheaded what more do you need?

  390. 390 botto said at 3:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    you know chip talks about how each game is basically the superbowl every week and no game is more important than another.
    but then last year we miss the play offs and he says I guess we didn’t win the right games..
    so I hope he takes that to heart and realizes some games are more important than others..
    namely the Giants, cowgirls and skins.
    those are the teams he better start hating right now!
    hate ’em real good chip

  391. 391 wee2424 said at 3:19 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m sure he knows that. It’s just something to say to pump up the team and to keep them from relaxing in certain games. It’s just coach talk.

    A 5 year old knows every game is important, but some more then others.

  392. 392 botto said at 3:22 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    yeah I just don’t like division games being downplayed

  393. 393 wee2424 said at 4:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I bet in the locker room on game days it’s a different story. But it’s good coaching to have every game approached the same way. He isn’t downgrading the division games, he is basically saying we approach every game as if it’s a division or playoff game.

  394. 394 MagLikesDraft said at 6:19 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Like a certain Super Bowl-winning coach said: “The key to a winning season is focusing on one opponent at a time. Winning one week at a time. Never look back and never look ahead.”
    Chuck Noll
    Can’t help it, Eagles fans, I am an Eagle fan too, but Noll was my favorite coach for a long time and Kelly frequently reminds me of him. A great teacher.

  395. 395 ACViking said at 6:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:


    Remember Joe “Must Go” Kuharich?

    He used to say — one game at a time — “that was the nail that broke the coffin’s back.”

    (The folks in these parts who bad-mouth Reid have no idea what a bad Coach/GM really looks like. NONE.)

  396. 396 since1961 said at 8:06 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    “That was a horse of a different fire department”.

  397. 397 Ben said at 3:22 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Great read Tommy !!
    I am also really pleased with this pick and I think Agholor can be great.
    I went over to and was watching some vids today and re watched his presser and came away thoroughly impressed with his level of Football intelligence.
    He seems like he is off the charts and has the skills to start right away.

    After watching his video, I decided to watch Josh Huff’s “In Studio” interview.
    Is it just me, or has Josh Huff gotten substantially bigger?
    He was always chiseled, but in this particular interview he just looks huge and his arms are much more massive than I can remember.
    Take a look at this video and see if you agree.

  398. 398 mksp said at 3:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I mean, at least we didn’t trade Fletcher Cox.

  399. 399 Rambo said at 3:26 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    When you hear the racism crap from Shady, I refer back to this quote from Josh Huff last season……”Now that I am reunited with him, I can’t wait to get to work with him,” Huff said. “He’s had a major role in my life. He gave me the opportunity, first and foremost, to go out to Oregon and compete at the highest level. I thank him for that. He continued to groom me the three years that we were there together and he made me into a better man and made me who I am today.”
    Hardly something a man who hates blacks would do. I know there are many more examples that dispute what Shady said…..but Chip basically has seen Huff rise above really bad circumstances, and he’s helped him become who he is today. Good stuff. Hopefully Huff can make things happen this year and help our Eagles take back the NFC EAST!!! #TIME2FLY

  400. 400 Midnight_Greenville said at 3:43 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    If Shady took the time to read, it would be great if he read this:

    He might learn something. I appreciate all Shady is doing to make me glad he is gone. I hated losing him at first, and I’m ashamed that I continued to like him despite the times he acted like an ass with Osi, left a woman stranded along the NJ turnpike, got in stupid twitter arguments with Adrian Peterson, and then the tip thing.

    It should have been clear he was a jerk then. But this whole racist thing, which is really just a rehashing of some similar unfounded comments after he was initially traded, is an intentional act of vengeance and seems more egregious to me. With every word he utters he demonstrates why he would never be a good fit with a coach who values team-first and #culture.

  401. 401 Rambo said at 3:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Very good read. I had no idea that occurred. Just a complete example of ignorance and lack of awareness on his part. You can’t just throw that word out with nothing to substantially back up your claim.

  402. 402 HawaiianEagle said at 4:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Thank you.

  403. 403 Bert's Bells said at 4:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    It was clear he’s a jerk -but that’s OK, he played well for the team.

  404. 404 Tdoteaglefan said at 6:33 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    great article thanks for sharing

  405. 405 bridgecoach said at 3:33 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The tee shirt reads:

    Always be yourself
    Unless you can be
    Then…always be

  406. 406 SteveH said at 3:35 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wonder what Dallas did to persuade La’el to sign there. It’s not even like they have a bad OL anymore where he has a good shot to start right away.

    I would think someone in his position would want to go somewhere where he can get into the starting lineup ASAP so when his 3 years are up he can maximize his next contract.

  407. 407 Bert's Bells said at 4:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Picked him up in Jerruh’s Party Bus.

  408. 408 ACViking said at 4:39 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    How did Dallas corral Collins?

    What multi-million dollar endorsement opportunities are available to NFL rookies in the Dallas area?

    Versus how ’bout a Nike deal — at the suggestion of a former UOregon head coach — to close the deal to get Collins?

    Maybe Jerry Jones has an in with lots of Dallas-HQ’d international corporations — like Frito Lay — willing to sign Collins to big endorsement deals.

    Or maybe Collins grew up a Cowboys fan and has the chance to get into the starting ROT job. In 3 years, if he’s as good as projected, he’ll be a premium OT with a great chance to recover some of the lost money.

    Eagles couldn’t offer that.

  409. 409 anon said at 4:52 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    the third from what i understand, though i’m sure there’s other things that Jerry did to seal the deal (The hallmark of a good CEO).

  410. 410 Insomniac said at 5:15 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    We have the environment to guarantee that he succeeds. Dallas is a cesspool.

  411. 411 wee2424 said at 9:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Unfortunately not true. He has a better chance to succeed in Dallas. He will be surrounded by YOUNGER talent equal to ours or better that will be around him for years on the OL.

    Their power scheme fits his abilities better then our scheme does.

    Right now there is less guessing with Dallas then us.

  412. 412 Anders said at 5:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Collins will also get extra value just by joining that over hyped OL, so he most likely makes a pro bowl or two he shouldn’t make

  413. 413 Cafone said at 10:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Maybe he’s an asshole and he thought that he would feel at home on the Cowboys.

  414. 414 Greg Richards said at 5:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Close to home, no state income tax, plus they have more of a man, power-based scheme which I think Collins is a better fit. He slimmed down for the combine but was then back up to 320 for his pro day. He’s more athletic than most maulers, but he’s still a mauler.

  415. 415 MagLikesDraft said at 6:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Check out 24/7.

  416. 416 wee2424 said at 9:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Close to home.

  417. 417 EaglesFan1 said at 3:41 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Wow I’m even more hyped for the Dallas games this year because they got La’el collins. Still, I expect our front 7 to dominate them especially now that we have Alonso to go along with kendricks

  418. 418 GermanEagle said at 4:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I would use the word ‘Kendricks’ in connection with ‘Eagles’ very carefully, my dear.

  419. 419 HawaiianEagle said at 4:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And Collins…

  420. 420 EaglesFan1 said at 4:09 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah the thought crossed my mind but I’m hoping all of the rumors are just nonsense.

  421. 421 mksp said at 5:03 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You could asphyxiate yourself with the amount of smoke on the Kendricks front.

  422. 422 MagLikesDraft said at 6:10 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Exactly. Only 25, Ryans – 31.

  423. 423 P_P_K said at 10:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Is there anyone who doesn’t know the opening riff to this song?

  424. 424 Crus57 said at 9:52 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    There’s probably a lot of people who don’t know anything but the opening riff, though.

  425. 425 Brian Pillion said at 5:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I’m still of the opinion that Kendricks will be dealt, my main question at this point is when? Having made it through the draft, do you hold onto him and wait for the invariable camp injuries across the league to create an uptick in his market value? How does Chip feel about keeping a not-long-for-the-roster type around through OTAs? Is that doing a disservice to the player, and not ideal for the #culture? You could hear an adjustment in terms of how Chip was talking about Kendricks before vs. after the draft, like there was a chance he might have to hold onto him now (at least for a few more months).

    To me it’s interesting in terms of how they want to bring along Hicks. They obviously want him shadowing DeMeco, picking up whatever insight he can from the veteran, but I wonder whether there aren’t some things to be gained for him from Kendricks’ game as well. Hicks’ athleticism is closer to Kendricks’ than Meco’s, and his ideal development would see him bringing some of Kendricks’ aggression into balance with Ryans’ diagnostics.

    I expect Kendricks to be gone before week 1, but when exactly, and for how much, will go a long way toward determining whether they think having Kendricks around at all before that has any value for the young guys educationally.

  426. 426 daveH said at 8:58 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I love kendricks man.
    chips a dick for f’ing around with him like this!!!

  427. 427 Brian Pillion said at 3:00 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, and DeSean, and Shady. They done good. Chip’s not nice. #nuancedanalysis

  428. 428 daveH said at 2:03 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    AND MACLIN!!!! read Sheil latest ‘what if MAclin” was re-signed .we’h have not had demarco murrya, no tears form me, but we would have had perhaps CB Byron Jones instead of dallas – id LVOE THAT!!
    chips wasting time money and braincells and he sure aint selling any jerseys!

  429. 429 Greg Richards said at 5:14 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The Eagles cut WR Will Murphy and signed DE Frank Mays. Mays was with the Eagles in TC last year. No Oregon players drafted, no Oregon players signed as UDFAs, and now Murphy cut. Is Chip actively trying to dispel the idea of Oregon bias, even amongst his own players?

    Or it could just be that Murphy is horrible.

  430. 430 mksp said at 5:28 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Drafted a WR, two new UDFA WRs, plus Quron Pratt back in camp, think the writing’s on the wall for Murphy anyway.

    Cutting Maehl would’ve raised more eyebrows I think.

    Also think Chip doesn’t give a fuck, if we’re being honest.

  431. 431 D3FB said at 5:35 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Oregon bias is over.

    It’s all about Charlie Strong players.


  432. 432 anon said at 5:40 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I noticed that too — how similar is their d to ours?

  433. 433 D3FB said at 6:55 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Ehhhh, Strong coaches a bit of everything.

    The Louisville defense was more of a 43 Under/34 hybrid. Something more of the Ravens/Rex/Pettine stylelistically.

    From jumping through the Hicks tape to look at how they set up it was more 43 that played like a 4-2-5 due to one of the OLB’s consistently lining up in the slot. And alot of 33 stack. Big 12 is the league of the spread though so that’s likely a more pragmatic decision. They still blitzed and were fairly creative.

  434. 434 ACViking said at 7:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    62 stack . . . Ampipe nearly won playing that all night long.

  435. 435 anon said at 7:05 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Do you have an opinion on what you like better? 43 under / hybrid defenses seem to be espoused by a lot of guys with good defenses.

  436. 436 ACViking said at 7:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:


    Your question’s premise is: Regardless of the talent, what’s Belichick’s preferred scheme?

  437. 437 anon said at 7:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    yes. Though I do think finding talent for our brand of 34 is harder than finding talent for a 43. So that would be a factor in the defense that I (or he) would chose.

  438. 438 D3FB said at 9:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I don’t know that I have a favorite. I’m a bit of a geek so I see the beauty in all of them. Except the wide 9. That’s a fundamentally flawed defense.

    I think the mirrored 34 concept that we want to use is really interesting. It allows the players to think less and just line up and beat the man in front of them. This is especially helpful when playing against tempo. It doesn’t give any advantages to the offense from a balance/strength of formation standpoint.

    I adore Gary Patterson’s 4-2-5. I would love to see somebody try to run it as a base package in the NFL with the prevalence of 3 receiver sets. I think the hesitation is you have to find the right player to be your “rover” the LB/S/NB hybrid.

    I’ve always been fascinated by the 33 stack, due to the confusion and speed it allows you to get on the field, but nobody has seemed to have figured out how to keep from getting outflanked with formation strength, and you still have the problem of needing to have a great “rover” to make it work.

    The Under/Hybrid defenses are also fun to watch. When they work it’s freaking awesome, however the inherent flaw is that you so often have one player attacking upfield while the next guy is 2 gapping and the other side of the DL is running a tackle-end loop. It’s complex and with the sheer volume of subbing and motions you have to deal with I feel like unless you have players with great apptiude from the mental standpoint and a perfect coaching staff it can backfire.

    The 43 over is just boring.

    The other thing I love is how you can keep the defensive formation and change personel and the defense plays differntly. Seattle replaced 350lbs Red Byrant with 275lbs Michael Bennet. Different ways to skin a cat.

  439. 439 EaglesFan1 said at 9:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Out of curiosity, is a guy like shaq Thompson an ideal rover?

  440. 440 D3FB said at 9:52 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That would be who I would try at the position first. That or a guy like a Deone Buchanon.

  441. 441 EaglesFan1 said at 10:29 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Hmm I never thought of buchannon. Interesting

  442. 442 Mitchell said at 9:57 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I was just going to suggest this exact thing!

  443. 443 Joe Minx said at 5:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I remember we were talking about him over the weekend here. Nice to see him get another shot.

  444. 444 ACViking said at 5:55 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Watch out for Frank Mays.

    He’s a had a year to work on his Eagles’ diet — although not the benefit of the free ingredients.

    On second thought . . . .

  445. 445 BreakinAnklez said at 6:48 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    But but but but….OregonBias?

  446. 446 daveH said at 8:56 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    the duck might indeed be dead

  447. 447 wee2424 said at 9:01 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Murphy is black. I don’t know if Mays is or not but I do know he cut another black player. It’s crazy how it’s 2015 and racism is thriving right in front of our noses on our own favorite team.

  448. 448 GEAGLE said at 10:33 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    There will be a duck in next years draft, I assume chip will view as Huff, Taylor Hart, Ducks he just has to have.. Big big year coming from Buckner. May not be the combine freak Arik Armstead was, but he is such a better football player them him….
    Outside of the two OL, weren’t really any ducks to take. Can’t touch a dwarf with a shattered knee Olomu… I’m surprised the safety Dargan didn’t end up with us as a late pick or undrafted., did the kid end up getting drafted?

  449. 449 eagleyankfan said at 8:08 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    That’s because HR was the Duck lover and in charge of the draft. 🙂

  450. 450 ACViking said at 5:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Cowboys get three 1st Rd picks in 2015, some are saying.

    What about the Eagles?

    1. Agholor

    2. Tebow

    3. Rowe (I had him in Rd 1)

    4. Barkley.

    MB was projected, at one time, as a 1st Rd guy — and since he’s barely played, it’s like he’s still a rookie. So he’s on my list.

    That’s four for the Eagles to three for Dallas.

  451. 451 mksp said at 5:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Sam Bradford too!

  452. 452 ACViking said at 5:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:


    You’ve been on fire lately.

    ‘specially your “no nothing” signature-line.

  453. 453 mksp said at 5:52 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That was just the rage talking.

  454. 454 ACViking said at 5:53 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Great art’s the work of passion

  455. 455 daveH said at 8:55 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    AND we still got BRANDON GRAHAM !! remember we picked him just before Earl Thomas and j ppp

  456. 456 Bert's Bells said at 6:03 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Pretty sure Dallas only got one 1st rounder, one 2nd, and one UDFA.

    To quote the Big Tuna, “Your draft position is what your draft position says it is.”

    There were reasons those guys fell to where they did.

  457. 457 GermanEagle said at 6:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    But at the end of the day they all have 1st round talent and if Gregory can keep his head straight and Collins gets fully cleared then the Cowboys draft will become legit.

  458. 458 oreofestar said at 6:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Yeah La’el fell because of what he couldn’t control

  459. 459 MagLikesDraft said at 6:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You really ARE an attorney! ;~)

  460. 460 botto said at 6:51 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    nelson is so good he is worth 2 first rounds picks on his own.
    and of course Sammy b was a number 1 over all.

  461. 461 ACViking said at 6:52 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    That’s very lawyerly. Like it.

  462. 462 daveH said at 8:54 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    don’t forget we have a 1st rounder that we used the very pick right before Earl Thomas!!
    and Bradford is a 1st PCIK!!! that’s buge !! as in buge halls!

  463. 463 sonofdman said at 9:11 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    We also resigned Sanchez. Not only first round, but a top five pick!

  464. 464 oreofestar said at 9:24 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And Ryan Matthews

  465. 465 GermanEagle said at 6:01 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Thank God for this blog. Makes my 5 hours driving class room more bearable.

  466. 466 ACViking said at 6:07 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    So what you’re saying is you’re a threat on the road?

  467. 467 GermanEagle said at 6:12 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    And in the air. I’m German, remember.

  468. 468 MagLikesDraft said at 6:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Made me laugh. My mother was part of a crew that manned the search lights and anti-aircraft guns on the Coast of Britain during WWII. When she moved into a retirement community years later, she discovered that her next door neighbour had been a Messerschmidt pilot! After all the years that had passed, they had a good laugh together.

  469. 469 P_P_K said at 10:08 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Maybe there is hope for humanity.

  470. 470 BreakinAnklez said at 6:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    After watching that highlight…Jmac really was either wide open or running towards blockers. Maybe the reason he slipped? Didn’t see the contested catches that I did with Agholor. I’m excited to see what he can do.

  471. 471 wee2424 said at 11:47 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Agree. People say Agholor is another Maclin. I agree with it to a point, but I think he has a little Cobb mixed in with him as well. More versatile and isn’t allergic to contact as Maclin could seem at times.

    I think last year Maclin was one of the best WRs at working the sidelines in the league. I think Agholor can developed into that quickly, but will also be a real threat in the middle. Who I really think will have some big plays over the middle for us this year is actually Huff. Dude breaks tackles like an enraged RB.

  472. 472 GEAGLE said at 8:12 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Vegas has Agholor with the 8th best odds to win rookie of the year
    They set the over/Unders on his rookie year yards at 700 yards, and over/under TDs are 4.5…

  473. 473 eagleyankfan said at 8:28 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think the 4.5 TD’s is fair. 700 might be high. I only say that because of Huff. Last year JM was the number 2 wr with Huff sprinkled in. In his second year, I expect Huff more of as a number 2 making it easier to sprinkle in Agholor. I was never that high on Huff and I expect Agholor to eventually pass him on the depth chart(next year).

  474. 474 anon said at 8:27 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    LSU coach Les Miles engaged in a passionate defense of his former player La’El Collins, and tried to make that case with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. But Goodell didn’t take his call.

    “He could have been put in a supplemental draft and paid his market
    value,” Miles said. “What I’d like to see is a guy who’s really
    performed well for our team, given us great leadership, continued to
    raise his level headed toward draft day, be given just and fair market

  475. 475 Greg Richards said at 8:40 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    No, he couldn’t have, Les. The CBA specifically forbids it.

  476. 476 RobNE said at 9:41 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    So with the tapes everyone said oh it wasn’t a benefit (the pats just spent tons of hours doing something that provided no benefit) but now the pats come back down 14 in the rain with deflated balls. They win the SB. Bullshit the team isn’t responsible. The nfl report just happens to come out after the draft. Brady downright lied. Why should we believe anything the team said.

    I am already upset on the penalty being too light. Money means nothing. So tell me your guesses so I can get mad. Brady should be suspended for 6 games.

  477. 477 FairOaks said at 10:44 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    My guess… Team gets 100K fine… maybe 200K because of repeat offenders after Spygate. Brady gets 2 games (which is honestly pretty significant, for a first offense). Belichik… maybe a token fine for being responsible even if not aware (which I doubt but after the report they have zero proof).

    I don’t think the deflated footballs had all that much of an effect. They were properly inflated for the second half against Indy (where the Patriots scored most of their points) and obviously the Super Bowl itself. Using the tricky receiver-ineligible loophole formations had a lot more to do with their win than the footballs, I guess. It just feels like the Patriots feel compelled to cheat any way they can get away with even if they don’t actually need to.

    Brady might get more for the repeated lying, and the team deserves more for all of the apology demand BS and the continued denials, though Goodell may let him skate by on that. Honestly the Patriots ridiculous reactions are worse to me than the actual deflating of the footballs. I’d rank Atlanta’s crowd noise as a worse violation of the rules, and the deflation is a fair bit worse than Cleveland’s texting. (They all pale in comparison to Spygate.) So penalties somewhere in between there. Except both of those teams came clean without any drama, and the Patriots did not. You could excuse Kraft/Belichik before this report came out I guess but the continued denials are pathetic.

  478. 478 RobNE said at 7:35 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I am talking about the Baltimore game. They were down 14 in the rain. Being able to grip the ball is super important. Fining them cash is just silly. I agree it will happen but silly. I see this as pats don’t beat Baltimore and don’t win the SB. They shouldn’t have the title. Is a 2 game suspension enough? I don’t think so at all. And Brady f ing lied about it all too.

    And I agree my neighbors are sending me things like look every team has players caught with ped’s in the past, so everyone cheats. That is so not the same thing.

  479. 479 unhinged said at 9:00 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Not to add to your misery, but the love taps that NE receives from the league will feed right into Bill’s recurring message that every player is going to hear ad nauseam: “The league hates us because we disrupt their attempts to promote underdogs. They hate us because we win, when everybody is doing their damnedest to beat us…they hate us because we don’t apologize for being the best…they hate us because we don’t care that they hate us…they hate us, they hate us, they hate us…”

  480. 480 D3FB said at 9:42 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Don’t tell me Matt Tobin can’t play.

  481. 481 Mitchell said at 9:49 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Hits Brockers on a double team with Peters and is still able to knock #57 off balance and likely out of they play? Can you describe why this is such an impressive piece of film? Is it demonstrating his athleticism? If so, I agree it is impressive.

  482. 482 D3FB said at 9:50 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Peters doesn’t get more than a finger on Brockers and Tobin throws him with one hand.

    With one hand he pancaked Michael Brockers.

    Let that sink in.

  483. 483 Insomniac said at 10:32 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    It looks like Peters destroys Tobin who has his hands on Brockers..

  484. 484 Mitchell said at 10:39 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    It kinda looks like Peters blocks Brockers with one hand, sees #57, realizes he cant get there, then sees Tobin and shoves him into #57 to make the ultimate double play. That is some serious freaking teamwork. It reminds me of Talladega Nights, “Slingshot, engage.”

  485. 485 anon said at 3:40 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    That’s what my film eval told me as well.

  486. 486 D3FB said at 10:41 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Camera angle, in context of the whole play Tobin makes the block by himself.

  487. 487 Mitchell said at 10:44 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    You can see that Peters knocks both of them off balance. He was a deterrent to both players. Upon multiple reviews, you can see Tobin get into Brockers, goes full super saiyan and “man shoves” him back with one arm. The “man shove” is when you get into a scrum with your friends and get super pissed and just unleash the rage. You accompany the shove with a, “get off me bro!!” That’s what I saw with Tobin there. Peters pushes them both and doesn’t even extend his arms fully. Furthermore, it is impressive that even when Tobin is falling down he can still affect the LB rushing the backfield.

  488. 488 D3FB said at 11:02 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    The LB isn’t super concerning it was a designed quick pass, if you watch Foles he never even sticks it in Sproles gut.

    The primary target of the play was to sell run action and conrol the DL or any LB’s who could get to Foles in time.

    Peters does end up mainly blocking Tobin. This is pretty common when the DL “buries” or crosses the OL’s face.

  489. 489 Mitchell said at 11:04 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    In any case you know you will be implementing the phrase “man shove” into your vocab.

  490. 490 SuPaFrO said at 4:20 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    U said super Saiyin ..

  491. 491 wee2424 said at 11:30 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I don’t doubt your football acumen in anyway. Your scouting ability is far superior to mine, however I don’t in anyway agree with what I saw there.

    You are right in that Peter’s didn’t get much on him but Brockers was definitely engaged with him first and Tobin took advantage of that to throw him on the ground using Brockers own momentum against him. Take Peter’s out of that and that is not happening.

    Just because Tobin was involved in throwing Brockers to the ground does not mean he can play. If I’m right he struggled in that game at times as well.

    We all saw Freddie Mitchell catch a pass on 4th and 24 but the dude can’t play. Not saying it’s the exact same thing but you get the point. For every nice play Tobin makes I bet you can find one that is ugly. It’s about consistency, something Tobin only showed in the pre-season.

    Not saying the guy won’t be an effective starter this year but I think we need to wait untill we can say this dude can play. The most recent examples of him didn’t exactly shine a bright light.

    Hopefully some stability around him will help, which it should. Will it help enough? We don’t know that. Beating out Barbre needs to be his first test.

  492. 492 D3FB said at 12:21 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Tobin likely makes that play without Peters.

    Also like I said in the tweet, I’ve gone through the college tape and I’m through 4 of the 7 games and Tobin can play. He’s good to very good inthe run game and solid in pass pro. That’s not narrative, that’s film.

  493. 493 D3FB said at 12:26 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    He’ll have 1 or 2 bad plays a game, and another 2 or 3 that he gets beat but its not a big deal. But he also has half a dozen good plays and the rest are solid. Yes consistency is important, but he was a second year UDFA, and it’s not a big leap of faith to figure he will naturally improve having another year of weight room as well as having gotten his feet wet in the league.

    I had this same argument 2 years ago about Ced Thorton.

  494. 494 GEAGLE said at 10:18 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    An AFC coach claims Dorrel Green Beckham was a mess at the board/film room. If Chip was ok with his charecter, I doubt we would ever see chip take a guy who doesn’t grade off the charts In the film room, and when coaches make the prospect draw and explain plays on the board
    Guys like Pope Jordan and Agholor blew chip away with
    Their acumen and football intelligence. Chip will take a raw athlete new to his position, but I doubt we ever see him take an athlete who lacks football intelligence
    Would love to see the Eagles big board after the draft, be fascinating to see how we rated kids compared to their draft spots. A charecter question and poor football intelligence probably didn’t even make chips draft board..

    Mariota had a big enough transition ahead of him, did they really need to pair him with the most undeveloped WR in the first 3 rounds?.. Appreciate having a coach who cares about this stuff, even if it costs us talent like Lael Collins at times..

  495. 495 GEAGLE said at 10:25 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    A little friendly advice to Eagle enemy #1 LAel Collins, if you know what’s best for you, you better take Doug Free’s Rigjt Tackle spot… If you take The over rated Ronald Leary’s left guard spot, twice a year you are catching a beating at the hands of you LSU captain Bennie Logan, and the baddest Mofo in the NFC east Fletcher Cox.., if you dare step to Fletcher Cox, twice a year Cox will make it hurt! You better win that RT spot from Free and take your chances with Brama bull Barwini, cuz you damn sure don’t want it
    With Fletcher.. Can’t put a rookie in front of Coxł
    By year 4, if bet Cox grown man strength fully kicks in, his 4th year In the NFL, 3rd in this scheme coming off a year he was dominate. Once s puppy really realizes he is a dominant beast, by the end of the next season it’s typically crystal clear to everyone.. So excited to see young defenders one year older and years of chemistry under their belt, with a drastically improved secondary behind them

    Dirty Cowboys got a better lineman then the skins and Giants got with top 10 picks… Smh #jealous

  496. 496 GEAGLE said at 10:40 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Really crappy that the wells report comes the week after the draft. I mean come on, do you really think you are slick? Transparent weasel got out of taking draft picks from his #1 owner backer Robert Kraft.. You could have gotten the results a week earlier in time for draft..
    Never know what the Parriots would have done if we took their picks.. Imagine the Patriot draft had they taken the senior citizen long snapper in the 5th, and a crappy Stanford safety Ed Reynolds in round 2, while Goodell took their 3rd and 4th for cheating In afc championship …. Then again punishing the Patriots would be tricky, you woul be punishing them off of already having a spygate strength against you, because it doesn’t seem like nellichek and Kraft knew about it. And I don’t know if you can take draft picks of a QB and two equipment managers cheated,, sounds more fair to punish the individuals, but if you want to argue that with spygate already as strike 1, anything that happens under bellicheks watch counts against that organization at as a whole, I wouldn’t argue against that stance either ..
    Hope Brady is suspended two games, and the Pats lose both and end up missing the playoffs by two wins

  497. 497 FairOaks said at 10:45 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    I doubt the Patriots get docked draft picks for this.

  498. 498 GEAGLE said at 10:59 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    They won’t now.,if they were going to take pics this wouldn’t get released Te week after the draft, they could have easily finished the report in time for the draft if they were going to take away picks.. I assume Brady will be suspended a game or two

  499. 499 FairOaks said at 12:44 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Not necessarily true. The report on the Falcons came out a while ago (before the draft) and they were still docked a 2016 draft pick.

  500. 500 GEAGLE said at 7:33 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Do you know what the NFL rule book says is the punishment for “PSI Infractions”??? $25,000 fine…..they aren’t goung to lose draft picks…. The rules state they warrants a 25k fine, Jimmy Graham was fined More, $30k for dunking on a goal post in a preseason game….. GOODELL already will have to suspend Brady on top of the 25k fine stated in the rules, doubt they lose any picks… Kraft is the owner who Goodell owes the most to after standing by his side when everyone wanted Gooddells head for the Ray rice fiasco

  501. 501 FairOaks said at 2:41 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    It is “including but not limited to” $25,000, I believe. They could easily decide that the actions went well beyond an accidental usage of an unapproved ball, and that circumstances demand a much harsher punishment. The 25K is just the minimum. They could also be fined more for being repeat offenders, and the over-the-top denials (lying to the commissioner, etc.) I don’t really expect a draft pick penalty — if playing with a deflated ball is not all that big a deal (as perhaps shown by the 25K default fine) then breaking this particular rule may not warrant a draft pick penalty anyways. My point was, if they were doing to dock a draft pick in the first place, it would be a 2016 draft pick, so the timing of the report after the 2015 draft means nothing.

  502. 502 anon said at 3:37 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    a blue chip player like Brady? I’d be surprised. Though they could pop him 25k per occurrence.

  503. 503 FairOaks said at 5:06 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    If they feel he has lied about it, that could well incur more punishment than the act itself. If stuff like this is relatively common gamesmanship among QBs then a suspension on that alone would probably be too much. If it’s not, then they could easily feel that the deliberate circumvention of the rules was well above a garden variety equipment violation. In that case, I’d guess that one game might be for the violation, and one game for the lying (if they felt he was, which the report basically believes).

  504. 504 MagLikesDraft said at 8:29 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Encouraging the training staff to alter the balls AFTER they have been approved by the officials, then LYING to an investigator is an insult to whatever integrity the league itself has. There was more than one game involved. All of their wins from last year, including the SB, should be vacated.

  505. 505 FairOaks said at 6:23 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Actually that is an interesting thought for the team punishment. They brought in 11 under inflated footballs, at 25K per, that would be $275,000 fine. At maybe the minimum.

  506. 506 Flyin said at 11:20 PM on May 7th, 2015:

    Do you ever step back to analyze the influence. Odds…none. Agenda… yes.

  507. 507 RobNE said at 7:37 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    All that was left by the draft was reading the report for typos. The nfl clearly delayed the release. They cheated , won a SB and will get fined an amount that to us would be the cost of a cheese steak.

  508. 508 jpate said at 9:15 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think the orginization should get punished because they already set a precedent with saints “negligent is not an excuse” crap. Doesn’t matter if HC didn’t know, he should have.

  509. 509 b3nz0z said at 9:49 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    i disagree, because i think they were wrong on the saints. i get the idea of a precedent, but not if it’s just repeating a mistake for consistency’s sake.

  510. 510 FairOaks said at 12:27 PM on May 9th, 2015:

    There has to be a team punishment. It may just be a hefty fine, but it will be there.

  511. 511 xeynon said at 4:54 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Other than merely average size, Agholor clearly has everything you could want in a receiver. Good speed, hands, route-running, RAC ability, intelligence, physicality, etc. I’m especially impressed by his attitude – this is clearly a guy with a team mindset and one who’s going to work his ass off to be great. If he stays healthy I think he’s going to be a star.

    The more I reflect on the draft, however, the more worried I am that Kelly’s failure to address the offensive line could derail every other move he’s made. Our line is old and declining, and Matt Tobin’s pre-season PFF grades aside I don’t like our depth at all. If we have even half the OL injuries we did last year, Sam Bradford (who I don’t think is very good to begin with) is not going to be as effective as he otherwise would be, and probably won’t last the season. If we have to rely heavily on Mark Sanchez again, the ceiling is wild card and first round exit, with 8-8 more likely.

  512. 512 eagleyankfan said at 8:02 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I’m mixed about this. One report said there was a run on OL before the Eagles picked. If the Eagles really wanted an OL, well – shame on them for not moving up and grabbing one before the run. Then a report came out about how many OL’s go undrafted yet still make teams. So there is some hope with who the Eagles signed after the draft.

    With that said, even if we drafted an OL in say 4th or 5th, the odds are he wouldn’t be ready/effective as any player on the team now due to just raw-ness. Even if we drafted someone and an injury happened, odds are this rookie wouldn’t be able to make a difference – especially if Sanchez is starting.

  513. 513 GEAGLE said at 8:40 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    As long as Vandervelde or some UDFA keep MOLK from making the roster, I’m fine with it. I will ALWAYS want more OL help. I wouldn’t have minded spending two picks on the OL, but I do know our OL is better then many people seem to think for two reasons:
    1)’we have some talented baby beast who are a year stronger, yeàr craftier thru experience, a year more comfortable.. It’s foolish to expect kids like Lane and Tobin to be the same players we saw last year. young players improve with good coaching, and Stoutland is as good as it gets..
    2) even tho I expect kids to be better players then they were last year, I doubt we got a true gauge Of our Backups ability in last years mess when inexperienced kids found themselves lining up next to a different player every week. OL doesn’t work that way, need to have chemistry with the man next to year and thats impossible if you line Up next to a different player every week.
    So not only do I think players are probably better then they showed us last year, but they will also grow and improve from the players they were last year.
    You can’t look at Lane Johnson and expect that kid to be who he was last year. That kids a young Monster who has constantly improved in leaps and bounds… Maybe Barbre won’t be as good as Herremans, but Lane will be better then the Lane Herremans played next to…

    As long as we don’t suffer more then 2 injuries we will be fine. Preferably Kelce, Lane and JP stay healthy, and I don’t really care what happens with Guards, as long as the backuss get to come into a healthy situatuon where they will play next to the same guy every week so they can improve a bit as the year goes on and he builds chemistry with the man next to him…
    50% of the Offensive lines of the 4 best teams in the NFL last year were UDFAs, and we have a REALLY GOOD OL coach…

    Damn you Lael Collins, you would have been perfect for us!!!!

  514. 514 eagleyankfan said at 9:24 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    That’s why I don’t do mock drafts lol. I too predicted 2 OL this year. I think we’re ok. If they aren’t happy with the OL, maybe a veteran gets dropped prior to the season starting…

  515. 515 sonofdman said at 12:46 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    By the way, that 50% of the offensive lines of the 4 best teams were UDFAs stat is very misleading. That refers to the entire roster (I believe including practice squad), not the actual starters who played for the 4 best teams.

  516. 516 GEAGLE said at 1:09 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Be that as it may, did you see what percentage of the entire NFL is UDFAs?

    We brought in like 5 new OL puppies that we liked, I like our odds that stoutland can turn 1 into a keeper… At least I hope

  517. 517 D3FB said at 10:01 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    The last three guys to go off the board that I had starter grades on and fit our scheme were Morse at pick 49, Fisher at pick 53, and Sambraillo at 57.

    A 3rd and 4th weren’t going to be enough to get up to take any of them. So it becomes Rowe v. Fisher/Morse/Sambraillo. I love all three of the big fellas but I’m taking Rowe over them due to the nature of roster construction.

  518. 518 mksp said at 2:23 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Why were you down on Glowinski again?

  519. 519 D3FB said at 2:40 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Highlight tape wasn’t in line with the game tape. Career backup to me. Tape overall was just meh.

  520. 520 eagleyankfan said at 8:31 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Watching that Agholor highlight — that dude was so wide open that 2014 Foles would have missed him… 🙂

  521. 521 GEAGLE said at 9:16 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    “The Summer of Sam”
    “man he can Wing it, he looks good, Bradford looks real good. his ball catches you sometimes. He throws a great ball, great touch, great timing and his demeanor back there is good, as Recievers when you have a QB back there who is mild mannered, only talks when he needs to, tell you what he wants, you want to go out there and play for him, he has that aura about him, that type of attitude and guys wanna work for him and it definitely helps when you have a spiral like that… All I can tell you is that ball looks pretty”-Jordan Mathews

    Jordans interviwe with Barkan is on CSNPhilly.. Check it out, the Pope delivers as always behind a microphone.. After a day of Shadys Jackassery, listen to this kid speak and it’s hard not to get pumped up and understand what chip is trying to do with the dedicated workhorses he is adding to the roster,…
    “We been throwing for the past 3 weeks and I can honestly say I thrown with Luck, FOles and I can honestly say I never played with a guy with a stronger arm then Bradford. He isn’t able to get his legs in his throws yet but the ball still comes out effortlessly and its a lot of fun to run routes with him. Very excited about SAM and what he brings to our team”-Zack Ertz

  522. 522 botto said at 12:07 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    awesome words from Jmatt

  523. 523 MattE said at 2:16 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I feel better after he takes that first real hit.

  524. 524 RobNE said at 10:11 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I will be totally off the grid for a few days. Consider me irate when the light penalty comes down on Brady. Adios.

  525. 525 Avery Greene said at 2:31 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, if the owners feel like they are losing money (generally) TB isn’t facing hard sanctions.

  526. 526 b3nz0z said at 11:00 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    TAWMMY – if i can skip my work tasks to read your thoughts, you can skip your work tasks to publish them more frequently. wicked more frequently

  527. 527 mksp said at 11:10 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Off Topic, but big news:

    ESPN isn’t renewing the contract of Bill Simmons.

    Hard to believe, Grantland and 30 for 30 are the only worthwhile editorial arms in that entire company, unless you’re over 40 and like OTL.

    This is why content providers need clear separation between business and editorial divisions. ESPN couldn’t when it came to the NFL, and now its losing one of the most influential sports personalities of our lifetimes (whatever you think of him).

    Here’s hoping Simmons goes on to build a bigger and better Grantland, and takes some of those talented writers with him. ESPN can keep Andrew Sharp though.

  528. 528 CrackSammich said at 11:36 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    I didn’t read the article, but Grantland is certainly more writers than Simmons. In fact, I generally skip over his stuff entirely. Are they axeing Grantland, or just Simmons?

  529. 529 mksp said at 11:38 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Just Simmons, and I agree with you – but its indisputable that Grantland was Simmons’ vision of evolved sports writing.

    I’d rather see Lowe and Barnwell under Simmons’ as editor in chief than see them stay at Grantland.

  530. 530 anon said at 1:19 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Agree with that, I think Simmons is sort of past it as a sports writer, his ego is a little out of control. That said it’s too bad Grantland is ESPN’s.

    Hard to see Grantland surviving wihout Simmons although they do have good stuff there — the podcasts are great, sports articles are good, etc. but can they maintain the same standards without simmons?

  531. 531 mksp said at 2:14 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, his mailbag isn’t as funny, his trade value columns aren’t as well-researched. You can tell he’s stretched thin.

    I’m more interesting in Bill Simmons the Curator / Editor, because Grantland is pretty great and some really intelligent, thoughtful writers working for them and doing podcasts.

    Don’t wan to see that die.

  532. 532 D3FB said at 2:42 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Give me Michelle Beadle as bloglord please.

  533. 533 anon said at 3:36 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    would like to see her play a bigger role in my life.

  534. 534 Ark87 said at 11:53 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Agree completely, if not for 30 for 30 and grantland, espn would have 0 relevance for me. Terrible reporting and otherwise uninformed commentary is all ESPN is.

    Me personally, Grantland is like my 1 stop shop, very thoughtful sports articles and transcendent culture writers (music/movies/TV). One of maybe 4 sites that I visit multiple times a day. I hope we don’t end up with half of Grantland with Bill and a diminished other half with poor editorial direction with ESPN. Uhg.

  535. 535 MattE said at 2:13 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Thank you Disney for ruining sports, next stop ruining Star Wars.

  536. 536 Avery Greene said at 2:29 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    LOL – they’ve done okay with all the Marvel stuff. I expect Star Wars to be good, even Rebels is a decent series. *Yes I am a geek.*

    Plus, I’m a fan of Abrams and I think he’ll do it justice.

    Also, ESPN became more of a media outlet (TMZ) than a sports outlet. I think that’s where the main problem is.

  537. 537 peteike said at 12:02 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I wonder what this means for Whitlocks black grantland, the undefeated. Greg Howard just eviscerates Whitlock on Deadspin, good stuff.

  538. 538 Kelce's Beard said at 3:27 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    amen, brother. Been following Simmons since his pre-ESPN days.

    on the bright side, I no longer have to visit their site

  539. 539 Rambler said at 5:13 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think Grantland is remaining ESPN property, and Simmons won’t be there either. I used to love Simmons, but kind of grew tired of him. Really stopped paying attention to his stuff, mainly because a lot of it seemed to be NBA related. However, 30 for 30 definitely was really solid.

  540. 540 unhinged said at 11:54 AM on May 8th, 2015:

    Lectures From On High

    Two commentaries recently in mass media publications, reflecting on the allegations of racism brought by LeSean McCoy against Chip Kelly do a fairly thorough job of disproving McCoy’s claims, but pay homage to the gods of political correctness, for what reasons I cannot speculate. First there is John Gonzalez’ column for CSN:

    Gonzalez wants us to know that the mere utterance by McCoy of “Kelly” and “racism” in the same phrase is an issue that can become a big problem for Kelly. “If even a single player wonders about Kelly on the race front, that is potentially a massive problem.” Now I don’t doubt that there have been coaches in every corner of sports from Pee-Wee to Pop Warner from the AHL to the NFL who were/are closet racists. “Closet racists” because an overt racist probably would be righteously barred from teaching anything to anybody. My problem with Gonzalez is his pointed reminder that one player is all it takes to wreak havoc, sort of like, one staph infection in a locker room can decimate a team. What adult does not know this? The McCoy allegations are baseless. EVERYONE can see this. For Gonzalez to argue that perception trumps facts is, to me, a sleazy insult to every African-American player that Kelly coaches or has coached.

    The second lecture was brought to my attention on this board. I don’t have the post handy, but my thanks to the poster:

    Dave Zirin is a writer for The Nation, and he spends less than half of this particular column explaining his first-hand testimony from a noted black-activist athlete (John Carlos) relating how Chip Kelly was the only NCAA coach who invited Carlos to address his team. Zirin is too good a writer to just pad his story with safe, liberal admonitions about perceptions and the like. Instead he focuses on the massive reaction to a Tweet that he sent out relaying the referenced information about Kelly and John Carlos:

    “I still stand by that. But what I did not expect—and I cannot believe I was this naïve—was a tidal wave of anti–Stephen A. Smith invective in my timeline aimed at him for even broaching the question. I did not even mention Smith in my tweets because it felt like the topic was beyond him, but he had become the piñata for everyone angry (sic) that this discussion was happening. It was over the top and very ugly, as if the act of talking about racism was in fact racist. …”

    If Zirin is naive, I would argue it is more in regard to the callous corporate indifference to mass sensitivities than to latent collective racist feelings amongst a wide swath of Philadelphians. SAS is a hired gun to drop invective, to offend, to provoke and to stir. Racism can be a tricky subject to negotiate, and Smith will use his color to gain credibility on the subject of race, but the idiocy that he spews is color-blind.
    Next, Zirin goes historical – nothing wrong with that. But he first stipulates that, while the “racial realignment” that Smith implied is not a real thing under Kelly, two questions that Smith raises are valid: Why did Jackson go? And why did Cooper stay? Zirin puts those questions into a context that recognizes “the extremely complicated history in Philadelphia at the intersection of sports and racism…” “This is a city where the Phillies threatened Jackie Robinson and where the Phillies fans and team showered 1960s All-Star Dick Allen with the kind of racial vitriol that still should bring a sense of shame. This is the city that for decades genuflected in front of a statue of a fake white boxer in Rocky Balboa and shunned their own real-life Rocky, Joe Frazier. This is the city where Donovan McNabb, the best QB in Eagles history, was disrespected in a manner that was both implicitly or explicitly racist…”
    I am not bothered by Zirin’s reminders, and I think they are on the mark, but for the record, I never genuflected anywhere near TPMOA,and I don’t know anyone who did. Bending over backwards to dignify the utterances of someone like Smith has its own degree of offensiveness, and I think it is simplistic to hope for an honest discussion about anything when invective invades the ether for the purposes of profit.

  541. 541 peteike said at 12:19 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    because timing is everything per Cooper so I really dont get that comparison at all. Chips first training camp, trying to do a
    hard job and build a team. At that point, Djax and McCoy were part of
    the equation as was Cooper. He just wasnt making the same moves building
    the team at that time, he was assessing what he had. I think thats
    everything here that people are missing. Then Cooper actually gets a
    bunch of TDs and has a decent season (probably with a little help from djax taking away
    defenders, leaving a lot of 1 on 1s for Cooper). Then they over pay him
    which was the bad move. Now they cant just dump him without taking the
    hit. This whole thing is all about timing so to me, taking it out of
    context to compare the players side by side just doesnt work imo. Everything in your post is great though, well done

  542. 542 ShadyCrockett said at 12:45 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    “For Gonzalez to argue that perception trumps facts is, to me, a sleazy insult to every African-American player that Kelly coaches or has coached.” So true.

  543. 543 Sean Stott said at 1:10 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    “The high YAC total wasn’t due to skill and efficiency but rather volume.”

    Isn’t YAC independent of volume though?

  544. 544 ACViking said at 1:13 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think that would be AYAC — not YAC.

    Avg Yds Aft Ctch

  545. 545 Sean Stott said at 1:30 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Got it. Thanks.

  546. 546 botto said at 1:37 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    just watched Bradford highlights over at philly mag, someone posted them, THE RETURN, its called.
    damn he looks good and could really be the best qb in the nfc east if he …..

  547. 547 anon said at 1:42 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    No one has ever questioned his arm talent, or ability to make throws in a clean pocket.

  548. 548 botto said at 1:47 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    he puts the ball in good spots

  549. 549 anon said at 1:54 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    if all goes well i’m excited. Looks way more decisive than Foles, with a much better arm (and brain) than the also decisive sanchez. I am worried b/c Sammy B will have to take sacks maybe he should wear one of MV7s kevlar vests over his chest, shoulder and knees.

  550. 550 MattE said at 2:02 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    the $6 million dollar man… and now someone please make an meme/image of that…go!

  551. 551 Mac said at 2:32 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    You mean this?

  552. 552 GEAGLE said at 2:43 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Most talented QB Chip kelly EVER worked with. Chip has made a lot of QBs look good and offensive players have their biggest year in chips system.. What’s he going to do with the most talented passer he has EVER worked with on any level? #hype

  553. 553 76mustang said at 2:19 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Really excited about this year’s defense – really believe the Eagles have added significant starting and depth players, and that the secondary could be a surprise position of strength. Think the Eagles will find a safety or 3 in this group that will be a clear step up from Allen, and the corner group already has more talent than any of Chips prior TC groups.

    Curious to see who’s worked hard in the off-season strength training – some of the early pictures are encouraging – even Matt Barkley looks to have added significant muscle.

    Chip will find a way to score points with our offense. Special Teams will continue to be a strength. Though they will likely be down in scoring contributions, their coverage units will generate turnovers and keep return yards at a minimum. And Parkey will continue his excellent kicking.

    Think the Eagles will add an OL or two from cut-downs.

    The Bradford / Sanchez and Barkley / Tebow competitions will be good for the team. In fact, all the position competitions will keep an intensity to this year’s camp. Can’t wait!

  554. 554 GEAGLE said at 2:58 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Smh Dante Fowler hurt his knee today At rookie mini camp and was carted off the field

  555. 555 Avery Greene said at 3:16 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I don’t think the Jags will ever be good.

  556. 556 anon said at 3:17 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Vikings had a pretty good draft

    Trae Waynes
    Eric Kendricks
    Danielle Hunter
    TJ Clemmings

    That’s 4 starters in four rounds.

  557. 557 mksp said at 3:26 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Hunter’s definitely not a starter yet.

    Clemmings depends entirely on his foot.

    Saw a funny tweet after the draft how Vikings’ drafts always “look good” and get good grades because Spielman seems to only pick players the casual “draftnik” fan knows.

  558. 558 OldDocMcQuackadillyBlip said at 4:31 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Clemmings was a foot problem, no? Did he have knee issues as well?

  559. 559 mksp said at 4:34 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Sorry, foot, yes. Had Fowler on my mind. Fixed.

  560. 560 OldDocMcQuackadillyBlip said at 4:36 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Ah, was wondering if I missed something. Still find it hard to believe he slipped to the 4th if his injury isn’t chronic. Huge upside there even if he is a bit raw.

  561. 561 Bert's Bells said at 4:38 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think there’s a poor history for OL coming out of college with foot injuries.

  562. 562 mksp said at 4:00 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Y’all should read this:

    Some decent insight from insiders / outsiders into Chip.

  563. 563 Rambler said at 5:08 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Actually saw that earlier, and was really surprised it came from Ashley Fox. Never really a fan of her style of reporting, but this was a decent article.

  564. 564 P_P_K said at 5:29 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Good read, thanks for the link.

  565. 565 unhinged said at 5:31 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    That is a nice read. Guess Brian Westbrook won’t be getting a Christmas card from Sam Bradford. Having digested a lot of interviews and commentaries recently on the Shady remarks, I am struck by how many former players never mention money, when rendering an interpretation of Kelly’s personnel dealings. “It’s culture” or “he wants to be top dog”, or “he’s sending a message that nobody is safe” Not outrageous readings from the outside, but I would love to hear Westbrook or Rahim Brock state how they would go about building a team in the context of salary cap, market values of skills, the difficulty in landing a franchise QB, and the policies of the NFL that reward the worst performing franchises at the expense of the top and the middle ones.
    As an aside, on that ESPN page that you provide the link for, Ashley Fox was asked what is up with all these changes for the Eagles. Fairly unremarkable until she gets to the trade of Nick Foles for Sam Bradford. As an explanation she states, “…Chip Kelly believes that he can put any player back there and win…” Yay, Ashley, you knocked it out of the park!

  566. 566 unhinged said at 4:15 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    These things I hope: Eagles Special Teams are clearly best in the league, Eagles TO number does not exceed 39, Eagles D and Bill Davis handle 3rd downs in a whole new way. I like Davis a lot, but I think he was partially to blame for Eagles poor 3rd and long woes. I changed my mind. These are not hopes – they are expectations, and eminently reasonable ones, truth be told.

  567. 567 GEAGLE said at 4:38 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    ESPN needs to fire Teddy Bruschi asap. I never heard anything so unprofessional. This joker needs to be removed from NFL live immediately. No matter what evidence was brought up to discuss he got mad and would respond “My Friend and former teammate, the Tom Brady I know would NEVER tell anyone to cheat or cheat himself”.. He wouldn’t even address any of the evidence brought up, just kept getting mad and repeating that his friend would NEVER cheat or tell anyone to cheat. It was so unprofessional. It really looked like a 6year old kid, getting mad and throwing a temper tantrum arguing that Santa claus is real… If Tom Brady was Ray Rice and you showed Bruschi the video, he would get mad, argue that the video was fabricated and go on to wag his finger and say ton would never do it… Just a joke and a waste of time.
    Who is the other Ex Patriot on ESPN live? bigger offensive lineman sized black gentleman who played with Tom Brady and the patriots for two years? Much respect to him for being able to address this topic the way a neutral media member should, he was calling Brady out for all the fishy lies and behavior and Bruschi was getting mad at him that as someone who also knows the great Tom “mother Theresa” Brady, would look at the facts and actually question Toms honestly.. There is some bad media in today’s sports, but Bruschi may have been the most unprofessional I have seen in a while. he clowned himself and ESPN can’t possibly keep him on..
    It reminded me of Rafael Palmiero getting pissed off, wagging his finger at everyone because how dare they accuse him of steroids… While really he was as dirty as they get…

  568. 568 76mustang said at 4:52 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    The first rule of The Patriot Way, don’t talk about The Patriot Way.

  569. 569 GEAGLE said at 7:04 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Take that bias worthless commentary to the local New England media. That crap has no business on National media programming.. 49 states don’t want to hear blind loyalty nuthuggery.. Media analysis is bad enough when it comes to football without ignoring all facts and unprofessionally waste your audiences time with senseless personal bias… I was embarrassed for Bruschi today. So unprofessional

  570. 570 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 7:06 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Damien Woody was the other guy

  571. 571 GEAGLE said at 7:58 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Thank you….much respect to him for at least trying to be an analyst instead of Bruschi who sounded worst then patriot fanboys

  572. 572 Mitchell said at 5:16 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I’m really not seeing in regards to the Giants first 2 picks. Flowers looks really sluggish. Is he projected to be a left tackle? Good luck. If you get a speedy edge rusher, it’s over. Collins is going to get abused. I don’t think he was even worth a second.

  573. 573 Anders said at 5:42 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Can you imagine Collins against even old man Celek in coverage? Collins is gonna get blown up trying to tackle Celek.

    and Flowers is a terrible tackle prospect.

  574. 574 GEAGLE said at 6:27 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    landon Collins in a division with Tight end like Zack Ertz is q bad idea, especially when it’s not like they have some Linebackers who are studs in coverage.. flowers does nothing for me..
    I think Sherff can be a fantastic Guard but I’m not a fan of his at tackle, and to take a Guard with the 5th pick is crazy especially when a top 3! Player in the draft was still available. Sherff will help the skins but it was a reach.

    I would have taken Lael Collins over Sherff and Flowers
    I do love the Odighizuwa pick for the Giants.. But I’d bet Rowe turns into a better pro then Landon

  575. 575 anon said at 5:18 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Eagles second-round pick Eric Rowe is practicing at corner during rookie minicamp

    It confirms the Eagles have no plans to play Rowe at
    safety. Rowe projects to open the season in base sets opposite Byron

  576. 576 anon said at 5:19 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    if i’m an eagles DB i’m racing for that last safety spot.

  577. 577 Alistair Middlemiss said at 5:23 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think it is really hard for Rookies to start at any DB position. I personally think that Thurmond will start the year at the 2nd CB spot, but if/when he gets hurt or as soon as Rowe is ready he will step in during the back half of the year.

    Think people do not realise is you have to be really good and better than the vet to start for the Eagles under Chip. We got used to rookies being pushed into starting position with Andy – he wanted young players to get reps under the bright lights to see if they could transition to the NFL game. Chip you have to earn that starting spot.

  578. 578 D3FB said at 6:13 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Most coaches say a tie (or anything within the margin or error) goes to youth. Chip doesn’t feel that way.

  579. 579 unhinged said at 5:35 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Isn’t May a tad early for drawing conclusions about next season?

  580. 580 anon said at 5:39 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    no. how much roster change did we really see from camp to season (granted it’s rookie mini camp).

    I’m just saying the logjam at CB isn’t looking good for guys like Boykin and Watkins

  581. 581 Anders said at 5:41 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Watkins is already moving to safety and Boykin is still “just a nickle”

  582. 582 Alistair Middlemiss said at 5:31 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Anyone else just watched the Rookie press pass on

    Really interesting set of kids, some more media savy, some less but every single one where of the win the day mentality, all echoed the concept of incremental improvement and just trying to compete and get better.

    Can understand a little more about the Hicks pick – he just screams leadership, which is something that the Eagles obviously desire above and beyond just natural ability at the ILB position. Kiko and Kendricks are both fantastic players but neither strike me as natural leaders who will be the heart of the team like Ryans is.

    Think we can say for sure that leadership and 100% football commitment is the most basic requirement to be an Eagle. After that comes athletic ability and size, and then football ability. Chip obviously believes you cannot teach the first 2 but can develop the last.

  583. 583 mksp said at 6:10 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, it was clear from Chip’s comments after the draft that Jordan Hicks is here to take over for Demeco.

    As OD has alluded to, Chip will not accept being soft up the middle for another year, after all the issues at ILB in 2014.

  584. 584 Flyin said at 7:39 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Is Rasheed Bailey related to Dawkins? His energy while speaking is similar.

  585. 585 Greg Richards said at 5:35 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter

    3m3 minutes ago

    Jaguars’ 1st-round pick Dante Fowler tore his ACL and is out for the season, league source tells ESPN. Just wow.


    641 favorites

  586. 586 Greg Richards said at 5:35 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Poor Jaguars. The Gus Bus can’t catch a break. Also, I get re-tweeting Schefter. I did so. Who favorites a guy tearing his ACL?

  587. 587 unhinged said at 5:39 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    On the bright side, it’s not as if they were going to unseat Indy, and they’ll probably get a high pick again next season, after having another season to decide if Blake is the guy.

  588. 588 Greg Richards said at 5:40 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    So, the Sixers’ re-building strategy?

  589. 589 GEAGLE said at 6:20 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Damn shame… Best player in the draft, done for the season smh..
    top pass rusher last year Clowney shredded his knee, a year later the top pass rusher doesn’t get thru rookie mini camp without shredding his knee… Hate to see such quality talent start their career like this. If it has to happen to a rookie, make it a cowboy or dead skin..
    Randy Gregory apparently had to tap out of one of his first cowboy practice today because of the heat

  590. 590 CrackSammich said at 10:32 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    “It could be worse. He could be playing for the Jaguars.”
    -Deadspin commenter.

  591. 591 unhinged said at 5:46 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    On the subject of TB the cheater, here’s Jon Stewart’s take:


  592. 592 unhinged said at 5:47 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Sorry let’s try that again:

  593. 593 GEAGLE said at 6:13 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Geez, I thought my Agholor 90 catches for Rookie of the Year was a BOLD prediction, but that’s not so bold with what media is saying..
    Ross Tucker predicted 85 catches for 1000 yards as a rookie
    Rueb has 70 catches 900 yards
    Derrick Gun has him filling Maclins shoes as a rookie and finishing with a 1200 yard season..

    mcShay has him winning rookie of the year..
    jordan Mathews I’m expecting to have a monster breakout year similar to hiw Alshin Jeffries exploding in year Two after a quiet rookie year..
    If Huff is as good as chip thinks we will have a 3 headed young WR monster for years to come

  594. 594 oreofestar said at 6:25 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I’ll go 74/1090/8

  595. 595 GEAGLE said at 6:42 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Im all about my defense, but this is easily the best arsenal of weapons we had.
    Think back to chips first year, Foles offensive explosion. All we really had was desean and a career year from Coop. After those two it was a major drop off to our #3 WR AVant who sucked and was done by the time chip becamr coach… Look at that explosive 2013 offense and what we lost and gained since then..
    All we lost from 2013 passing game was desean and avant,yet we gained:
    Miles Austin I assume he is a much better weapon then avant was in 2013
    Ertz is much better then he was as a rookie in 2013
    We lost great player in shady but you can’t say we got worst when our stable of RBs is demarco, Ryan and Sproles, basically 3 quality starting caliber RB

    If our OL stays healthy the way they did in 2013, then our offense should be by far the best we have seen since chip arrived. We have so many more weapons now, where as in 2013 all we really had was shady, desean and Coop

  596. 596 oreofestar said at 6:44 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Bruh my boy Avant destroys MILES

  597. 597 anon said at 6:45 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    yeah that was straight blasphemy

  598. 598 GEAGLE said at 6:47 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    No that was reality..not bias nuthuggery.. Think I don’t love avant as a past eagle more then a cowboy crumb like Miles Austin who hasn’t even played for us yet? But if we are being honest 2013 avant sucked.. And I’m ONLY comparing the 2013 weapons to this years arsenal of weapons.. It’s blind home team nuthuggery to say 2013 avant was better then ANYONE. He had nothing left by 2013

  599. 599 GEAGLE said at 8:29 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Blasphemy is over rating an average 3rd WR, then again, you probably were one of the fans who wanted Henry Jose in the hall of fame last year so what can I really expect?

  600. 600 oreofestar said at 8:30 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    It’s really not that serious -_-

  601. 601 anon said at 8:34 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    2013 Jason AVant (447, 2 TDs)
    2013 Miles Austin (244yds, 0 TDs)

    Be clear we’re getting austin b/c of size and that he’s a vet.

  602. 602 GEAGLE said at 6:47 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    You must be talking about 2010 Avant, Not 2013 avant compared to Miles Austin Last year. Avant sucked in 2013 if we are having an honest convo. He was a nice eagle but he had nothing left in 2013, all he brought to that 2013 offense was blocking. Look at miles Austin highlights for the Browns last year, Avant didn’t have 1 single contested catch in 2013 like you saw Miles have last year… All avant could do by 2013 was block and sit down in a zone and find an opening.. Avant in 2013 wouldn’t even make this roster. Get real

  603. 603 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 6:53 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I think he can pass 1000 yards. Matthews could have with better QB play and Maclin may have had another 200 or 300 yards. The only that will stop him is the number of weapons on O

  604. 604 GEAGLE said at 6:59 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Think OL is the key more then the QB. Even Sanchez can be better then he was last year if our OL is closer to the 2013 OL then last years OL mess. If Bradford plays 16 games and all 5 Offensive lineman start every game, I assume we set offensive franchise records in just about everything

  605. 605 FairOaks said at 6:58 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I just can’t see it, if Kelly wants to have a ground-based attack, and spread the ball out when he does pass. I guess it’s possible that everything works out on offense and the Eagles put up a serious amount of yards, in which case his share could reach 1000, but… I’ll believe it when I see it. Just seems like we are in the wonderful period of imagining the ceilings of all the just-drafted rookies before seeing something closer to reality in the preseason and realizing there are warts or at least things to work on. But I will admit I will be disappointed if he’s not a starter.

  606. 606 GEAGLE said at 7:01 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I don’t get disappointed by rookies

  607. 607 botto said at 8:01 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    he will probably, most likey, conservatively, have one million yards and one hundred Touchdowns.

  608. 608 GEAGLE said at 6:13 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    New York Media is just now saying that Brady is getting suspended

  609. 609 SteveH said at 8:00 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I guess if you tarnish the shield even being the golden boy won’t save you from the Ginger Hammer.

  610. 610 GEAGLE said at 8:10 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Also saw a report that patriots are preparing for worst case a 6-8 game suspension,,,, be shocked to see the Ginger jerkoff grow a pair and punish them for that long.
    Examples need to be made to make people in the future stop and think before they cheat

  611. 611 MagLikesDraft said at 8:34 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    I repeat and believe. Of course it won’t happen.

    “Encouraging the training staff to alter the balls AFTER they have been approved by the officials, then LYING to an investigator is an insult to whatever integrity the league itself has. There was more than one game involved. All of their wins from last year, including the SB, should be vacated.”

  612. 612 anon said at 8:45 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Remember when bob kraft came out after the SB talking about “real fans” how disrespected they were and they needed an apology from the league.

  613. 613 Greg Richards said at 8:50 PM on May 8th, 2015:

    Brady either needs to be suspended for the entire season or 3 or less games. I don’t want him getting a 4-game suspension as they play the Cowboys in their 4th game Week 5(after a bye).