Future Eagle?

Posted: July 8th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 108 Comments »

We talked a bit about the draft yesterday. I hate to do it again, but I have found a player that will definitely be picked by the Eagles. Book it.

Kelby Brown.

All-American ILB at Duke.


Great student…currently working on graduate degree.

Good frame at 6-2, 230.

Plays on passing downs.

Oh yeah…and just tore his ACL…giving him 4 ACL tears in 5 years.

When the Eagles take him in the 4th round, Chip Kelly can say that without the ACL issues, this player would not have been around that long.

I’m joking, of course. Just giving Chip Kelly a hard time on his ACL fetish.

At least I think I’m joking…

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NJ.com found an NFL executive who thinks the Eagles won’t miss Herremans or Mathis at all.

“I don’t know how much either one of them has left,” the executive said of the 30-something guards. “Herremans had a nice career, but you look at the past few years he wasn’t the same. Then, he got hurt last year.

“(Mathis), that’s the craziest thing I ever saw. He either got the worst advice from an agent ever, or he made the dumbest mistake ever. You watch him last year? He’s just a guy at this point. Why do you think he hasn’t been signed?”


“Peters,” the executive said, “yeah he’s still real good, probably the best. He’s just a physical freak. You talk to our guys about him they’ll tell you he’s the best. People talk about Tyron Smith in Dallas. He’s good, but I’ll still take Peters.

“(Johnson) is OK, too. You see him developing, getting better. They’re all right there. And the center (Kelce) is good, too. With him, and the two tackles you can find guys to play guard.”

“I haven’t seen a lot of (Barbre), but he’ll be fine,” the executive said. “Moffitt was OK before he hurt his knee. So you have to see how that goes.”

I think that might be overs-stating things just a bit. I think the OL can succeed without Herremans and Mathis because of the talent returning and Kelly’s run-heavy scheme, but there will be some tough moments as well.

And Mathis might be overrated by PFF, but he is still a good player. I don’t have an answer for him not signing yet. That could be him taking his time in looking for the right situation. Or it is possible that teams are shying away from him for now due to his asking price. Mathis may be hit with a nasty bit of economic reality. Guys who are in their 30’s and coming off missing half a season rarely get raises.

Herremans found a good home in Indy. Let’s hope Mathis finds something similar where we can cheer for him, but he won’t affect the Eagles in a competitive way.

108 Comments on “Future Eagle?”

  1. 1 Dave said at 8:55 AM on July 8th, 2015:

    Does anybody else think it will be excruciating watching ESPN/NFL Network and surfing the web knowing that 29 teams report for training camp before the Birds? The Eagles need to play in the Hall of Fame game every year to they can open 6 days early and we can get our fix.

  2. 2 Ben said at 1:19 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I know, all this waiting really sucks.
    At least we can laugh at the dalass RB situation for awhile longer.
    What kills me is that although our offensive line,(when healthy), is better than dalass’s, you never hear Eagles fans bragging about our O line.

    Why is it that every cotton pickin dalass fan feels the need to brag about their O line, when confronted about the loss of Murray?

    When we traded Shady to Buffalo, we were all concerned who our RB would be, and then Gore backed out of a handshake deal with our Eagles.

    Even then, no Eagle fans were talking about how we could just pick up any old RB, and they would thrive behind our line.

    Is it possible that we Eagle fans are just smarter?

    By the way, is this a new thing? Where fans brag about their O lines?

    To me, it’s almost laughable how much they talk about their line.

    Does anyone agree?

  3. 3 RobNE said at 1:26 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    we are definitely smarter. It’s unpossible they are smarter.

  4. 4 Ben Hert said at 1:59 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Pretty sure Eagles fans have been bragging about their OL for the past couple of years now. Hasn’t really been anything else thats been worth bragging about TBH. We’re probably the biggest PFF advocates on a per fan base basis because of how much they love our line.

  5. 5 Ben said at 2:01 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Okay then, I understand that when we are healthy we are probably the one of the top O line ‘s in the NFL, but I have never heard Eagle fans bragging anywhere near the level the cowbum fans do.
    Although I have heard Eagle fans defend our O line when an uneducated cowbum fan claims that our O line is inferior to theirs, but rarely have I seen where we begin that argument.
    Maybe it’s just my personal experience with their clueless fan base.

  6. 6 botto said at 2:32 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    i does

  7. 7 Ben said at 2:11 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    So does I, but only when an opposing fan tries to imply that ours is worser 😛

  8. 8 Wes Covington said at 8:27 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    What else is Dallas going to brag about – how many of their players qualify for early work-release programs?

  9. 9 Ben said at 2:16 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    They can also brag about how their coach has a striking resemblance to Howdy Doody.

  10. 10 ChaosOnion said at 9:31 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I love shoving PFF advanced stats rating for the Eagles O-line down the throats of DAL fans at work. It gives me a rolled up paper to smack them on the nose with. They are not enough of football junkies to know the prevailing thoughts of the Internet Football Community (IFC) are PFF overrate O-lineman.

  11. 11 Jernst said at 12:59 PM on July 12th, 2015:

    It’s not possible, it’s a verifiable fact of the universe, much like the conservation of energy or objects in motion will stay in motion.

  12. 12 Media Mike said at 5:49 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    The Eagles have been shaded out of the Hall of Fame game because too many Eagles have been shaded out of the Hall of Fame.

    Even if B-Dawk will be the next Eagles player enshrined followed (hopefully by Peters), we need more Eagles in.

    I’m thinking the entire 700 level of the Vet needs to be in there under the new “contributer” category for contributing a warning to 31 other fan bases that rooting for a team other than the Eagles in the stadium belonging to Philadelphia is a d-bag move and should be greeted, with curses, punches, urine, and (if necessary) projectile vomit.

  13. 13 GEAGLE said at 11:10 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Carmichael and Westbrook need to go in with Dawk… no McNabb

  14. 14 Jernst said at 12:57 PM on July 12th, 2015:

    I agree on Carmichael! It’s insane he hasn’t sniffed the hall yet. Westbrook is questionable. His overall numbers (rushing and receiving) are pretty darn good. But, his rushing numbers are pretty middle of the road and his career was pretty short. He only had a few years of real prime production. Only broke a 1000 yards rushing twice. Only averaged 59 yards rushing per game in the playoffs. Plus he missed all of the 2003 playoffs with a torn triceps muscle, so he was only really a productive part of 2 playoff runs. He played amazing down the stretch in 2004, was even more of a beast in 2006 playoffs, but averaged only 2.4 yards per rush with zero rushing TDs in the 2008 playoffs. For his career he averaged only 52.4 yards per game rushing and 32.6 yards per game receiving. He’s 73rd all time on the rushing yards list for his career.

    By comparison, Rodney Hampton, who played 8 years (same as Westbrook, who played 8 for the Eagles and then had that lost year in San Fran for a total of 9 years in the league) for the giants, is 59th on the list, Micheal Turner is 55th, Chris Warren is 52nd, Garrison Hearst is 49th, Willis Magehee is 39th, Thomas Jones is 24th. A very similar player to Westbrook, Warrick Dunn is 21st, with 10,967 rushing yards compared to Westbrooks 6,335 yards.

    I’m not trying to shit on Westbrook’s skill at all, he was amazing. But, the hall seems to take career numbers and memorable post-season play into account a lot more than they probably should. And, because of that, I think Westbrook will be a long shot to make it into the hall.

    Donovan is closer, but still borderline. He gets a lot of points for being the main cog in a nearly unprecedented run of postseason success in that era from 2000-2004. He’s in the top 25 all time for both passing TDs (ahead of Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner, Phil Simms, Troy Aikman) and passing yards (ahead of Jim Kelly, Eli Manning, Jim Everett, Ben Rothelisberger, Phil Simms, Steve Young, Troy Aikman and Kurt Warner). There’s only about 3 or 4 players who have more career TDs than him that won’t make it to the hall (Vinny Testeverde, Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason, John Hadl) and Vinny Testeverde, Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason and Kerry Collins for career passing yards. If either of the two make it it’ll probably be McNabb.

    It’s so crazy to me that McNabbs career ended so suddenly and at such a young age. He’s only 38 years old right now and could conceivably still be playing if he hadn’t let himself go both physically and mentally. He played his last game for the Eagles after just turning 33 years old at the end of that season in 2009. By comparison, Peyton Manning is now 39, Brees is 36, Phillip Rivers is 34, Brady is 38, Palmer is 36, Rothelisberger is 33, Romo is 35 and Rogers is will be 32 this year. What a waste the end of his career was.

  15. 15 Fufina said at 8:57 AM on July 8th, 2015:

    I honestly think the Eagles look at ACL’s differently to fans/NFL at the moment. They see an injury that should have a 100% recovery rate, that after a year is not predictive of further injury and feel it is something of a market inefficiency at this point.

    Think there is a very good chance that K Brown is an Eagle as their 3rd or 4th pick unless the medicals come up with negatives.

  16. 16 kevinlied said at 1:37 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Maybe one ACL tear doesn’t make you more susceptible to another. I’ve read some dumbed-down versions of the literature that makes this point, but I don’t have the background to analyze them intelligently. But assuming the literature is correct, the fact that some players suffer multiple tears seems to indicate that either (1) those guys are terribly unlucky, (2) those guys play in a manner that increases their risk of tears, or 3) some ACLs are more susceptible to being torn than others. I have a hard time chalking up four tears in five years to bad luck, and if 2 or 3 is true, I wouldn’t want to bet on Brown.

  17. 17 Neil said at 9:10 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    There are ways to tell who is at risk. It’s mostly fixable; IE, nobody is born at higher risk of ACL injury necessarily, but childhood nutrition for instance can be a huge factor which is not fixable after he’s reached the NFL. The fixable aspects involve how a person’s muscles fire, and it’s mainly a matter of timing, not strength. If your stabilising muscles are working, they absorb the stress of movement, and if they aren’t then the ACL does when you make a cut in practice and…

    It takes work ethic and more importantly the player has to be willing to acknowledge that he has a problem to handle the fixable aspects. Sometimes it’s hard for an elite athlete to understand that he has a fundamental problem with the way his muscles work together in various movements precisely because he’s an elite athlete.

    I don’t claim to know everything about this. This is just my understanding as of right now.

  18. 18 kevinlied said at 8:31 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Good insights. Thanks.

  19. 19 Jernst said at 12:18 PM on July 12th, 2015:

    Great post! Agree with everything you said, but I’d say that there are probably people born with a higher risk, however small it might be, for tearing an ACL or any ligament. It would be absurd to assume that every single human has ligaments that are exactly the same strength and can withstand forces with exactly similar ability.

    Just like some people are taller and others shorter, some people are naturally faster or stronger, or smarter, there pretty much would have to be somewhat of a normal distribution in the population of ligament strengths…some natural variability. How big the differences are at the different end of the spectrums is nearly impossible to say, but it has to exist. And, players at the weaker end of that spectrum would be conceivably at an increased risk, no?

  20. 20 Jernst said at 12:14 PM on July 12th, 2015:

    It would be absolutely impossible for certain players to not be more prone to injury than others. We have to assume that not everyone’s ligaments are exactly the same strength and have the same ability to withstand injury. If you accept the very reasonable assumption that different people will have different strength ligaments and tendons then it’s no jump at all to assume players who fall on the weaker end of that spectrum would see more injuries.

    The problem with the data is that there simply isn’t good enough data or ability to randomize adequately and have a large enough sample size to make any accurate predictions. All the studies done involve younger athletes in their teens who play high school sports, women, who are more prone to ACL injuries due to the larger angle from their hips to their knees, and your average joe weekend warriors who happened to just randomly tear an ACL playing pick up basketball, get it repaired and don’t end up tearing again because they’re a 40 year old guy that plays pick up basketball, it’s just not all that likely that they’d ever tear one anyway.

    The end result is that all these variables wash out the data and you come away with no statistically significant increase in re-injury rate. There has never been a large study of high level athletes conducted that was adequately powered enough to make a good conclusion. Most of the studies reported involve something like 40 patients, half of whom were women and half of whom where either kids or not really high level athletes. Plus the chance of any ACL tear, either an initial tear or repeat tear is extremely small.

    In the NFL, about 3% of the league tears an ACL every year. So you could say that the average player has a 3% chance of tearing an ACL every year. Even if the chance of retearing an ACL was double that of having an initial tear, you’re looking at only 6/100 ACL repairs being reinjured from a cohort that’s already super small.

  21. 21 GEAGLE said at 11:35 AM on July 8th, 2015:

    Like I said’ Mathis got the worst advice ever from an agent.. I bet Mahis wife despises drew Rosenhause.. When Mathis signs for half of what he would have made from us, Rosenhause shouldn’t even get a percentage of the deal Mathis signs…… Mathis is the biggest clown in eagke history, we have to lose a solid starter because he is a fuckin idiot and got played by his agent looking for commission on a new deal…What Mathis did this offseason is dumber then THe TO situation.. At least Owens went on to get paid… We lose a starter, Mathis loses a ton of money and has to move his family to a new state, and for what?mso slimey Rosemhause can get a commission check? Mathis you stupid fool, should be calling chip every day begging him for 75% of what we were paying him..
    Fortunately Moffit could turn into a steal, depending what he has left in the tank and where is head is at these day…if he is close to The player he was, we will be very fortunate, but I also don’t rule out Tobin, Barbre or Gardner growing into solid starters… Totally agree that with two awesome tackles and a top Center, we can find Guards….
    as long as Lane, Peters and Kelce play 16 games, I love our chances, if Bradford can stay up right of course

  22. 22 Bert's Bells said at 1:21 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    But what does Rosenhaus’ wife think of Mathis?

  23. 23 RobNE said at 1:25 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Mathis didn’t even sign yet. Mr. Wolf said something once about let’s not celebrate just yet.

  24. 24 ChaosOnion said at 9:35 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Moffit could turn out to be the next…wait for it…Mathis!

  25. 25 Jernst said at 12:03 PM on July 12th, 2015:

    I’d have to chuckle if for all Mathis’ posturing and refusing to show up to voluntary workouts to get a raise he ended up playing for the Eagles at a discount. Won’t happen in a million years. Chip wants players who want to be here and has moved on. Mathis is probably sitting at home with a pit in his stomach just feeling completely empty at how many millions of dollars he just lost.

  26. 26 bluto said at 12:35 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I believe, that Tommy is on record as preferring the 4-3 to the 3-4. I’m interested in learning why. Any link to a past post which explains would be appreciated. Seems to me, and I know very little, that the 3-4 helps ST staffing and gets more athletes on the field. Is this a correct presumption? Now that I’m on a little roll, any kind of online deep dive would be great…

  27. 27 CrackSammich said at 12:53 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Both have their strengths and weaknesses, to the extent that choosing one over the other is largely a philosophical choice. I get the impression that Tommy prefers the 4-3 because the Eagles ran it for so long.

  28. 28 Bert's Bells said at 1:20 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    He’s also gone record as a Tom Landry fan and Landry was a 4-3 innovator.

  29. 29 bluto said at 2:37 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Thanks for the 2nd half of that response.

  30. 30 Insomniac said at 12:54 PM on July 8th, 2015:


    an old article but it’s still explained well

  31. 31 RobNE said at 1:23 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    interesting but I saw it’s from 2008. I thought Chip likes the 3-4 more b/c it is more suitable to stop his offense, which naturally he thinks is the sh$t. Since the option read etc. have become much more common since 2008 I wonder if a more recent look would be even more in favor of a 3-4.

  32. 32 Ben Hert said at 2:04 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I think its more of having the ability to shut down the thing opposing offenses do to slow down his offense. He’s all about that fast pace, so teams like to run on his defense to slow down that pace. Forcing stops on first and second down when they try and run, forcing a 3rd and long, and getting a quick 3-out jives with that fast paced offense.

    IIRC I remember him saying something about liking the 2-gap and having an extra body not in the box and in the secondary helps against the pass. Had to do with numbers in the box I think? Sounds up his alley.

  33. 33 Insomniac said at 3:21 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Versatility of the 3-4 probably sold Chip.

  34. 34 Insomniac said at 3:19 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Considering how there’s only like two more 3-4 teams compared to 4-3 teams, I wouldn’t say the 3-4 is that much more in favor. Chip likes the 3-4 because it’s a lot more to this taste. He has packages and personnel for whatever they’re doing with just like his offense. So yea it’s basically trying to shut down his offense.

    IMO, the 4-3 relies more on personnel to be more effective. You can’t get away with just a guy if you want a great 4-3 defense. Think of the difference between the Rams front 4 compared to the front 4 of the Falcons. It’s night and day for the pressure generated by their DL. That is why some 4-3 DEs are paid so much more than 3-4 DEs.

  35. 35 unhinged said at 5:12 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    The 3-4 allows for more vanilla looks and fewer substitutions out of its base. It’s inherently more unpredictable, I believe, for those very reasons.
    I think it works for either scheme that you cannot be great if you just have mediocre talent. Jim Johnson worked some magic with a 4-3 and just adequate LB’s, but his D was very predictable in part. Opposing offenses knew they could do damage if the DL was not getting blitz support – that was the the predictable part. JJ was very skilled at mixing up the blitz packages, but a good QB always finds his hot read, and as good as Johnson was, his D typically had difficulty against smart QB’s. I think Kelly likes the few extra tenths of a second that a QB needs to determine if OLB is coming or pass defending. BG is not playing to his strength if he stays in coverage, but somebody like MSII, if he proves effective at pass rush, could really confound QB expectations by staying in coverage, which speaks to Kelly’s emphasis on versatility.

  36. 36 Insomniac said at 10:03 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Ehh I wouldn’t say that the 3-4 is more vanilla. It’s just that the 4-3 has been growing faster since the 3-4 is harder to find exceptional talent for. Pete Carroll definitely has been innovating some more exotic 4-3 looks but who is the Pete Carroll of the 3-4? Rex Ryan could be a candidate but I really don’t watch his teams play so I can’t say.The Pats did win it all without a bunch of standout guys in their front 7 though they’re not historically great like what the Seahawks are doing. I’d say base defenses are becoming prototypes as athletes are changing and evolving.

  37. 37 unhinged said at 2:39 PM on July 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, I didn’t mean to be simplistic. My preference is for the 3-4 because I think the logic behind 2-gapping is sound. If I was a RB facing a stout 2-gapping DL I’m going to be doing more guessing about where a hole may open up than 1-gap quick twitch DL. The 1-gap will bury me in the backfield from time to time, but I think I’ll get better chances across a game . In the passing game, the 4-3 DL may feature more dynamic individual pass-rushers, but how is the QB’s pocket holding up? I think our line is impressive in how it can collapse the pocket and get a body on the QB. You’re right that you need good athletes for any scheme to be successful. A 4-3 like the ’85 Bears just had 4 guys consistently beating up 5 guys, but that is more the exception, I think. You mentioned the Pats, and 2 names that come to mind for me are Woolfork and Seymour. Both big and athletic and able to 2-gap, clog lanes, AND get upfield. Woolfork was a beast against screens. We’ve got one exceptional talent on our DL, and the line is very good. If Kelly can land another one, it could turn us instantly into a top 3 defense in the league.

  38. 38 MattE said at 2:20 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    3-4 Under is even more confusing.

  39. 39 bluto said at 2:37 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    4-3 under. I don’t think the 3-4 under exists.

  40. 40 A_T_G said at 4:57 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    …which makes it even more confusing.

  41. 41 Anders said at 4:35 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    3-4 under is what Wade Phillips coaches (or what Bum Phillips invented and made famous with Bruce Smith.


  42. 42 D3FB said at 5:56 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    34 Under is the same as 43 under from an alignment standpoint.

    Difference is base personnel.


  43. 43 MattE said at 9:06 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    my bad you are correct sir, 4-3 Under Warren Saap special, and hookers

  44. 44 Media Mike said at 5:51 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    The greatest D in the history of the NFL, the 91 Eagles, was a 4-3. The 2000 Ravens, another legendary outfit, was a 4-3. Even the 46, run at its best by Buddy Ryan, was a 4 down lineman/3 LB setup.

    In short, 3-4 is what female reproductive part fans of teams such as the Stillers like.

  45. 45 Anders said at 4:33 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    The 91 defense, was still the 46

  46. 46 Ben said at 1:11 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Interesting piece on Kelby Brown Tommy.
    I have no idea who he is or how good he is, but since it’s olny 4 ACL’s and not 5, Chip will surely grab him in the 4th.

    Also, Tommy what do you think our chances are of re-signing Mathis for a one year deal, at a discounted price?

    10% ?, less? more?

    Would Chip even consider it?

    What’s your take on this possibility?

  47. 47 RobNE said at 1:19 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I think it’s close to 0%. Mathis isn’t likely to consider it either.

  48. 48 Bert's Bells said at 1:19 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    The Mathis team isn’t even talking to the Eagles (I suspect). Chances are berry berry slim.

  49. 49 A_T_G said at 7:18 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I cannot imagine the egos on either side of the discussion would allow that to even be considered.

  50. 50 SteveH said at 4:35 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    4 ACL tears in 5 years? That’s great value.

  51. 51 TypicalDouche said at 7:23 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Jason Pierre-Paul – DL – Giants

    ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul had his right index finger amputated on Wednesday.

    Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

    This is nothing to laugh at but I am laughing at this and am very ecstatic to hear this. Fuck JPP and fuck the Giants. Brandon Graham will show this year why he was selected ahead of JPP and why is will earn his 2nd contract he just received. Oh and BG has all his finger which JPP doesn’t lol.

  52. 52 Media Mike said at 7:24 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I’d like to point out………………

    oh well

  53. 53 Cafone said at 9:09 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    We are # (fist)!!!!

  54. 54 Nailed it! said at 7:24 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Very similar to the Ronnie Lott situation.

    He can come back quicker if he just gets it amputated.

  55. 55 TypicalDouche said at 7:35 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Well Lott did that in game, took his finger off then returned. That is some true tough man stuff right there. JPP is still currently in the hospital days later. Lott was a real man.

  56. 56 Weapon Y said at 7:38 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    JPP doesn’t have a game coming up for two months. Why shouldn’t he be in the hospital?

  57. 57 TypicalDouche said at 7:42 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Well if you read what I wrote correctly I was referring to the previous comment referring to Ronnie Lott where Lott took his finger off mid game and still finished the game. So like I was saying there is no comparison to Lott’s situation to JPP’s situation. So my point is Lott finished the game whereas JPP is still in the hospital.

  58. 58 GEAGLE said at 11:08 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    He hasn’t practiced with the team, what difference is it if he is at home or the hospital.. Should have signed his franchise tender when he had the chance, or the 60mil he was offered. I assume that 60 mil deal has been pulled off the table til they see him perform this year

  59. 59 Birds4Life said at 8:28 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, the Giants pulled the $60 mil offer off the table a few days ago. Sucks to be him! But the $14.8 mil franchise tag has not been pulled yet.

  60. 60 ICDogg said at 1:07 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Hospitals don’t normally want to keep you for longer than they think you need to be there.

  61. 61 ICDogg said at 1:04 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    “I could have all of Eddie DeBartolo’s corporations and it isn’t going to buy me a new finger. It has given me a new perspective on life.” -Ronnie Lott (upon further review)

  62. 62 EagleNebula said at 8:36 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Now it’s being reported that a TB DB lost two fingers on the same hand with a fireworks mishap… Why are these NFL players messing with explosives?

  63. 63 Insomniac said at 9:41 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    It’s like history doesn’t teach us anything.

  64. 64 TypicalDouche said at 9:56 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Clearly history doesn’t teach people to not be stupid. 2 people getting there hands messed up is called being dumb like you

  65. 65 GEAGLE said at 11:06 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Considering people died this week for lighting fireworks on their stomach and Head…how can I be too surprised?

  66. 66 Mitchell said at 9:24 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Since when is people losing digits funny? I understand the Giants are rivals but good lord.

  67. 67 Cafone said at 9:27 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    When it happens to a Giants, Cowboys or Redskins player.

  68. 68 TypicalDouche said at 9:49 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Preach on brother

  69. 69 wee2424 said at 7:48 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Congrats the both of you just had the most ridiculous and childish argument possibly ever seen in this site.

  70. 70 Insomniac said at 9:41 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    This is why some people hate Eagles fans or should I just say straight up inbred morons.

  71. 71 TypicalDouche said at 9:44 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Awww cry me a river, you don’t think any division rival would cheer of one of the Eagles main players got hurt?..Also coming from you who says some of the most moronic things you shouldn’t talk.

  72. 72 Insomniac said at 9:45 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    You’re a bad troll but the only thing you’re better at is being an idiot.

  73. 73 TypicalDouche said at 9:48 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Cool story bro I am an idiot because I’m celebrating a divisional rival’s best player being hurt haha yea ok. Wait give me some smart insight you have because your comments are borderline retarded.

  74. 74 Insomniac said at 9:49 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    You are what you’re bred to be.

  75. 75 TypicalDouche said at 9:54 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    lol good comeback. Anything other great comebacks you have?. I remember arguments like this when I was 12 because the idiot, which is you, has nothing smart to respond with. Cmon man I’ll give you time to come up with something good. As far as me being bred to be who I am it’s called being a far more superior person to you. I’ll be waiting for something good for you to post since you post nothing but nonsense

  76. 76 Insomniac said at 9:56 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Why Tommy hasn’t banned keyboard warriors like you is still a mystery. You don’t contribute anything readable or anything funny. At least GEAGLE has his passion but you..? Lol good day moron.

  77. 77 TypicalDouche said at 9:59 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Awww are you going to cry because I’m not banned? Man up bitch just because I’m speaking the truth and an Internet hero like yourself is supposed to get his way?.lol you’re a joke shut up and until I get banned I will attack all your stupid nonsense post.

  78. 78 Insomniac said at 10:04 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Your tears.
    They are flowing.

  79. 79 TypicalDouche said at 10:09 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    haha you’re reaching really hard for a comeback and clearly have none. Cmon smart guy I am waiting for an actual post that says something. The post you just did is schoolyard baby stuff.I understand if you don’t have the intellect to respond with a post that is insightful and well said but you have to do better then that.

  80. 80 Insomniac said at 10:12 PM on July 8th, 2015:


  81. 81 TypicalDouche said at 10:14 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    My point exactly, I’m done wasting my time with morons like yourself. Have a good night friend

  82. 82 James said at 11:48 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Jesus, you sure have some pent up aggression. Hope you do not own deadly weapons, that will be a sight for sore eyes. Take your silly playground tactics somewhere else.

  83. 83 GEAGLE said at 11:05 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Name out your mouth. Don’t be that bitch boy. It’s unbecoming

  84. 84 Insomniac said at 11:17 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    GEAGLE I’ll use your name as I please. Wtf will you do about it?

  85. 85 Bert's Bells said at 7:01 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    He’ll pound out a 4000 word treatise about it that will break the world’s spellcheck while paraphrasing a BGN article at the same time.

  86. 86 Cafone said at 10:03 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Oh c’mon man, it’s not like he lost a limb. Fingers grow back.

  87. 87 TypicalDouche said at 10:10 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    No Cafone apparently there are people that are oblivious to common knowledge.

  88. 88 TypicalDouche said at 9:45 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Like Cafone said it’s a divisional rival that’s why. You don’t think the Skins, Giants, or Cowboys are hoping Bradford hurts himself again? They are so fuck them.

  89. 89 Mitchell said at 9:58 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Sure but a “normal” person would respond to the situation: “Dang, that really sucks but at least we don’t have to play against him, I guess.” Since when do we want to play teams at less than 100%? W/e, I guess.

  90. 90 TypicalDouche said at 10:01 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I’m a die hard fan and I have no remorse for any division rival plain and simple

  91. 91 GEAGLE said at 11:03 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Dang that really sucks. feel bad for the guy, but I won’t shed a tear two Sunday’s out of the year. fuck it, I won’t shed a tear if Jason Peters takes another digit from him on Sunday. That prick JPP is going to try and kill Bradford.

  92. 92 EagleNebula said at 11:34 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    FYI: JPP will play this year, he doesn’t need his index finger (a dr called it the least important digit for gripping). So your victory dance is a bit premature. You could be celebrating his refusal of any visits/help from the Giants as a sign that he wants to go elsewhere – but not that he will miss any games.

  93. 93 CrackSammich said at 11:48 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Eh, I used to rock climb quite a bit. Most of the grip power is in the middle and ring fingers, so you’re right on that. But when it comes to football where you’re grabbing at anything you can get a hold of, I would think getting one finger on a dude might be the best you can get at times. There’s really no way to tell how much this could disadvantage him until he gets out there. It will probably screw up his ability to train for a month or two, though.

  94. 94 JPP's robotic prosthetic digit said at 1:21 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    I’ll be back.

  95. 95 EagleNebula said at 9:22 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    You’re mixing up your references, quoting Swartzenager while showing a HAL avatar…

  96. 96 Bert's Bells said at 6:59 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Some doctors say it’s in the top 5 most important fingers for gripping.

  97. 97 A_T_G said at 12:39 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Well, I had a friend in college who was bragging all the drunken way back to the dorm about the phone number he got from a very attractive young lady at the party. When we got in, it was very funny when he checked his pocket and realized he lost her digits.

  98. 98 ICDogg said at 12:57 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    In the future when you tell that story you will have to explain that back then you actually wrote phone numbers down instead of just saving them to your cell.

  99. 99 A_T_G said at 7:11 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    I felt old as I typed it.

  100. 100 A Roy said at 10:22 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    You’re an asshole.

  101. 101 TypicalDouche said at 10:32 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    I know this and yet I’m still giggity happy about the injury

  102. 102 Cafone said at 10:39 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    Does JPP’s severed index finger have its own twitter account yet?

  103. 103 JPP's index finger said at 11:47 PM on July 8th, 2015:

    …it does now

  104. 104 Cafone said at 12:45 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    two thumbs up!

  105. 105 ICDogg said at 12:53 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    but only one index finger

  106. 106 JPP's robotic prosthetic digit said at 1:13 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Begone vile undead carrion!

    The position has been filled.

  107. 107 McNabbulousness said at 5:27 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    this is turning into one explosive story

  108. 108 Ryan Stocker said at 11:22 AM on July 9th, 2015:

    Let’s see how Mathis’ situation plays out. I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance in Hell that he gets a raise. I think it’s even going to be tough for him to get a contract that pays as much as the Eagles did. I won’t have any pity for him if this blows up in his face. That’s what happens when you and your agent care too much about money and not enough about loyalty and love for the game.