Saints Talk

Posted: October 7th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 381 Comments »

When it has the right combination of coach and QB, a franchise can special, maybe even for a long time. Sean Payton and Drew Brees have been that duo for the Saints for a decade now. The Eagles had that combination in Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb. Chip Kelly is still trying to find his soulmate, so to speak.

I have enjoyed the Saints from afar. Payton is a good coach and I’ve always admired his offense. I don’t see how you can dislike Brees. He’s a great player, great leader and just seems like a good guy. Wins and offensive records have been commonplace for the past 10 seasons.

The one thing Payton and Brees can’t battle is time, and that is catching up with them. While the Saints led the NFL in yards last year, they only finished 7-9 and that was playing in the very weak NFC South. This year the Saints are 1-3. They even needed overtime to get that win against a depleted Dallas team.

Brees has a shoulder injury and that has affected his arm strength. He missed one game, but then played really well last week in the win over Dallas. Brees couldn’t throw the ball deep, but completed 80 percent of his passes and ran a terrific ball-control attack.

I don’t know what to make of the Saints right now. Take away the OT score from Sunday and they have 2 more points than the Eagles this year. Sam Bradford has more TD passes than Brees. I know Brees missed a game, but Bradford has struggled mightily and still has more. The Saints run game is only slightly better than the Eagles. And they’ve given up more sacks.

The Saints have made changes in recent years. Gone are guys like Darren Sproles, Jimmy Graham, Kenny Stills and Lance Moore. Brandin Cooks has been disappointing to this point. Marques Colston remains, but age has caught up with him. C.J. Spiller made a huge play Sunday and that might be the thing that gets him going.

The O-line isn’t what it used to be. LT Terron Armstead is banged up right now. RG Jahri Evans isn’t the dominant blocker he once was.

As for the defense, I still firmly believe the one huge mistake Sean Payton made was hiring Rob Ryan. He got the defense to play really well in 2013, but it was awful last year and isn’t much better this season.

As Chip Kelly explained, Ryan runs a very complex defense and loves to mix things up. He designs exotic blitzes and mixes in conservative coverages as well. The blitzes will work from time to time, but also will get burned. Right now the Saints don’t have a great secondary. It doesn’t seem like they’ve been the same since losing Malcolm Jenkins.

To be fair, they did have some players coming off injury last week. Maybe this group will settle down and start playing at a high level. I just don’t anticipate that happening.

CB Brandon Browner is a penalty machine. CB Delvin Breaux rarely looks back to play the ball and could be called for a penalty on a regular basis. Jairus Byrd has struggled with injuries since coming to New Orleans. Right now the Saints have a pair of rookies at LB. Hau’oli Kikaha is a good pass rusher, but is raw. MLB Stephone Anthony is big and athletic. Both guys can make plays, but also have rookie moments. Cameron Jordan is a very talented DE. Two other DEs are undrafted rookies. The Saints traded a player recently to create salary cap room. You just don’t hear stuff like that during the season.

The kicking game is less than ideal. Their punter is hurt. The kicker missed a chip shot to win last week. Returner Marcus Murphy has a KOR for a TD and a long punt return.

In some ways, the Saints feel like a slightly different version of the Eagles.

One of these teams is going to come up with a big win on Sunday. The winner is 2-3 and right back in the mix. The loser falls to 1-4 and sees the season slipping away. In the past, I would have favored the Saints without a whole lot of doubt. Both of these teams are struggling.

It won’t shock me to see either team pull this out.


As for the Eagles and injuries…too early to tell. Chip wouldn’t commit to anything at his PC today. Lane Johnson is determined to play. If Jason Peters can’t go, Johnson may slide over to LT. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. The OL has enough issues. Having multiple guys move around doesn’t sound good.


381 Comments on “Saints Talk”

  1. 1 bdbd20 said at 10:18 PM on October 7th, 2015:

    I find it really interesting that Chip is considering Johnson at LT. Is this the end of Jason Peters? If Peters was likely to heal, one would think that Tobin starts at LT with Kelly at RG.

    I hope it’s not the case this soon, but we all knew Lane’s long term spot was at LT.

  2. 2 Media Mike said at 5:20 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    If their best 5 (with Peters out) is with Johnson at LT, then I’m happy to be able to judge how Lane plays in that position. This should be a week that you can get away with that by giving Peters an additional week to rest if you need to.

  3. 3 Anders said at 5:59 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Problem might be judging Johnson at LT with a bum knee.

    I do prefer Tobin at LG or LT over him playing the right side

  4. 4 D3FB said at 8:22 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    He did suprisingly well last week, and I’m a big fan, but you don’t want Tobin playing more than situationally at LT.

    They did a good job of giving him some help, and he did a good job quick setting the edge players last week, but if we get in situations where he has to one on one versus a rusher with his ears pinned back, Sam is gonna get crushed.

    Barbre has been really bad. If Peters is out, I would go with:



  5. 5 JoeBlow said at 10:27 PM on October 7th, 2015:

    I really liked Stephone Anthony pre-draft, he flies around the field and can get out of control at times and just rely on his athleticism. If he can get coached up well, he could be stud

    Is Andrus Peat playing for them at all? I think two starters are out on the o-line and i think i remember him on the bench sunday night

  6. 6 Media Mike said at 5:19 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Peat is rumored to be starting at LT. If that doesn’t get Brandon Graham on track, I don’t know what will.

  7. 7 Mr. Magee said at 12:31 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Safe to say Tommy doesn’t think much of the Saints… Could be a good week for the offense to get going and build some confidence (injuries notwithstanding). If it doesn’t happen, it will solidify the reality that this group is having significant trouble “executing” Chip’s offense.

  8. 8 Poppi said at 6:36 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I think is too hard to tell about the offense because the OL is so awful and apparently getting worse. Maybe we will see some fire from the backups.

  9. 9 HawaiianEagle said at 12:45 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’m to the point now that if we’re gonna suck, let’s SUCK. But if we’re gonna win, let’s WIN.

  10. 10 Media Mike said at 5:14 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, you’re not going to get Goff being 6-10 or 7-9.

  11. 11 xeynon said at 9:19 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Was watching some film of Connor Cook last night and liked what I saw. Really tough and has good field awareness. More than one good QB prospect in this draft.

  12. 12 Anders said at 3:21 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I hope we for once comes out guns blazing on offense and force the Saints into bad situations, because Brees will tear the defense apart underneath if given the time, so we need quick pressure, focus on underneath coverage and do not miss tackles

  13. 13 Media Mike said at 5:18 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    The horrible performance vs. the Saints in the 2013 playoff game by our D is burned into my head. I share your fear on Brees / Payton vs. Davis.

  14. 14 Anders said at 5:57 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    The defense has improved 10 fold since and the Saints offense has declined alot, but if Kirk “fucking” Cousins and Brandon Weeden can dink and dunk, so can Brees on a bum shoulder

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 8:02 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Lol not as funny as Greg Hardy saying he wants to come out guns blazing the first time he had a microphone in his face.,. To make matters worse he started to run his mother about Brady’s the ice and her sister… Lol when Jerry Jones was asked in an interview about what Greg Hardy said, his first 3 words were literally “oh my God” … I laughed for like half hour

  16. 16 peteike said at 10:46 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    unreal, disgusting on both parts. Can not believe that was JJs reply, wtf. Both tone deaf.

  17. 17 Media Mike said at 5:13 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Anybody else have a bad feeling that the O gets on track this week, but we lose anyway because Sean Payton / Drew Brees carve up Billy Davis in the same way that happened in the 2013 playoff game?

  18. 18 MS said at 5:53 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Nope. If the O gets on track I think it’s a blowout for the Birds.

  19. 19 xmbk said at 6:11 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’m sure there are a lot of bad feelings out there. 😉

  20. 20 Poppi said at 6:33 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    My really bad feeling is that we burden the defense with being on the field 40 plus minutes, defending 80 plays (again), can’t make a kick (again), and the makeshift OL can’t block (again).

  21. 21 ChoTime said at 11:01 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Great. Now for sure this is going to happen. 10 yard gain after 10 yard gain, marching unstoppably towards the end zone. We will finally stop them around the 18 yard line, but Curry will fall for a hard count and give them a fresh set of downs. After being on the field for 90% of the game, the D will finally tire at the end and we’ll lose by half a point.

  22. 22 anon said at 11:04 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    billy d does have a history of getting outcoached

  23. 23 botto said at 12:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    brees is no cousins.

  24. 24 A_T_G said at 6:40 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    “This year the Saints are 1-3. They even needed overtime to get that win against a depleted Dallas team.”

    Wow, who could be so bad to be 1-3 and barely beat the Cowb… Oh, nevermind.

  25. 25 GEAGLE said at 7:59 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’d probably feel better about facing a 3-1 Saints team, instead of s team as desperate as we are.. It helps that they are coming off an emotional win that they needed.. Hopefully they face plant like we did against the skins after we got our first win.m vs the jets

  26. 26 P_P_K said at 10:23 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I was thinking the same thing. Sigh…

  27. 27 GEAGLE said at 7:55 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Breaking News: Chip Kelly the GM has traded chip Kelly the coach to the Cleveland Browns for a 2027 8th round pick… Press conference scheduled for 10am to announce Jim Shwartz as the new head coach of the Eagles

  28. 28 EaglesFANqq said at 8:05 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Very stupid. At least not so kong.

  29. 29 Julescat said at 10:30 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    king or donkey kong?

  30. 30 EaglesFANqq said at 10:44 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    very stupid comment.

  31. 31 peteike said at 10:45 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    says the guy whos never funny but litters the board trying to be

  32. 32 EaglesFANqq said at 8:08 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I don’t think the eagles will win another game with an offensive line this bad

  33. 33 D3FB said at 8:27 AM on October 8th, 2015:

  34. 34 Ark87 said at 9:19 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’m going to put that squarely on Chip Kelly’s shoulders, since he won’t, not a shred of accountability on that scoundrel, I tell ya.

  35. 35 Avery Greene said at 10:07 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    This is probably why they are struggling as a team.

    I’m not too down on Chip the GM, because outside of the offensive line (the most glaring weakness) the other moves have helped out. The defense is absolutely better mostly because of the changes he made in the secondary. The offense has flashes but lack consistency, but if the line plays better we are not complaining about Chip the GM anymore.

  36. 36 eagleyankfan said at 10:39 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    well, jury still out on DM, Bradford and Kiko….

  37. 37 Avery Greene said at 10:46 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I just posted a tweet above. DM has met contact at or behind the LOS on 21 of 29 runs. I can’t totally blame him for the failure up front.

    Kiko is injured and we knew he was when we brought him in. Seems like that trade is going to be a wash with injuries.

    I really liked what I saw out of SB last week. 15 of 28 passing doesn’t sound great. But there were more than a few dropped passes. Considering he hasn’t played in 2 years, he looks to be shaking off the rust nicely. But you’re right, the jury is still out. If he’s still inconsistent Week 8, then yeah it’s bad.

  38. 38 eagleyankfan said at 10:51 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    with that same line – what are the numbers per contact for Mathews or Sproles?

  39. 39 Avery Greene said at 11:03 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Mathews is +0.6. Not sure about Sproles.

  40. 40 eagleyankfan said at 11:04 AM on October 8th, 2015:


  41. 41 ChoTime said at 10:58 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Careful there. Getting rid of DeSean and Maclin are a big part of the problem. Their ability has not been replaced, and the attempt to replace it has cost lots of picks.

  42. 42 bill said at 1:10 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Ha. “Got rid of” a guy you offered big money to. I’ll have to remember that euphemism.

  43. 43 ChoTime said at 2:04 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He didn’t offer enough, he got rid of him. It’s his job to put good players on the field and he has plenty of cash. He squandered it in the wrong places. Actually that will become far more apparent in the next year or two.

  44. 44 EAGLES said at 3:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He can cut Maxwell and Murray after two years. By then he can replace them. I think he has a legit plan in place that is built around finding a franchise qb and building through the draft. His first draft looks excellent. I feel like these guys are holdovers. And I also feel if his objective is to get a franchise qb, tanking a year wouldn’t be so bad if the end result is a shot at a qb and of course we’d have high picks the rest of the draft. That is the goal according to him and Jeffrey Lurie, so….. Usually the only way to acquire one is early in the draft. Though we had a shot at Bridgewater and Carr among others, Foles was our guy at the time. And deservedly so. I mostly fault Chip for the o-line but he’s not lying saying lots of o-line guys were taken quick. The Buccaneers took Ali Marpet and Donovan Smith in the 2nd round alone and they’re both starting right now. It sucks. Herremans is benched and Mathis has been inconsistent from what I hear. Our depth sucks, Chip better go heavy there next year. I bet he will. Great defensive back draft next year though.

  45. 45 EAGLES said at 3:28 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Oh and Sanchez was signed two years as a failsafe for Bradford. I think Chip should swallow his pride and just tank a year. Especially if there’s good qb’s to be had the next year. He wants to win now but it might not be possible. Bradford deserves a shot to play behind a good line and have a run game before he’s judged harshly. Give him what Foles had in 2013 then we’ll talk.

  46. 46 GEAGLE said at 8:28 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    We are in week 5, I have no idea why the media keeps asking chip if he thinks he has the right players and they rip him when he says yes… Like are they kidding, do they actually expect chip to completely throw his players under the bus in the week 5? You think this is a disaster? Nothing would cubicle tell destroy this franchise worst than chip telling the media that he thinks these players aren’t good enough.. How can even the dumbest of media members not understand that even if deep down chip actually believes that, nothing would destroy this franchise more than if chip would say that..
    And now the media is blown away that he actually admitted yesterday that his play calling also has to improve, but chip always talks about self scouting and has said that he need r to call plays better all the time when we struggle so I’m never t sure why the media is so surprised…
    When the media asks chip if the offense is the problem, that’s a very different question than if play calling is q problem, do while media keeps badgering chip about if this offens is a problem, him answering that he has to do a better job of play calling,,, a problem that the offense would mean he has to trash the entire offense, needing to do better in play calling only means that he needs to pick the plays better, but those plays come from the Same offens which is not and issue, so I don’t understand acting like its some grand revelation that chip said he has to call plays Better, that is soooo not the same ae him admitted that he has to pick better plays in certain situations..

    There is some shit chip can’t publically say even if he wants to, how does the media not understand this and continue to rip chip because he won’t completely crash n burn this franchise by publically admitting that his players aren’t good enough in week 5 which is the most destructive thing chip could ever say?

  47. 47 Gary Barnes said at 9:13 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    His harping on execution was a dodge and so it was good to hear him finally take some accountability for what he can do better to help the team win. Every coach dodges questions and twists the truth to protect themselves, their players, their coaches, the organization etc. We all understand that, but it was tiresome to have Chip hammer away at execution when it was clear as day that the play calling, scheme and personnel were also issues and were hampering the ability to execute.

  48. 48 GEAGLE said at 12:25 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Sorry Pal, but that’s just an uneducated crock of shit. Chips press conference this morning should clear up this bullshit for you. Anyone who understands the technical nuances of what is required and takes the time to see why plaus didn’t work can easily see that it’s straight up execution problem.. Of course there will always be play calls that a coach wants back, but when our 11 players r route and beat their man, this offense works like a charm

  49. 49 GEAGLE said at 3:17 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Stop it.,,

  50. 50 Gary Barnes said at 8:59 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Good to hear Chip taking accountability for something:

    Hopefully, he can adapt and innovate so we get some better results

  51. 51 xeynon said at 9:24 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Glad to hear it, but it’s not a surprise. Chip’s a good coach and a very smart, rational guy – he’ll self-scout and figure out where his weaknesses are.

    Unfortunately, it’s mostly Chip the GM I have an issue with. It may be because he doesn’t want to lose his players by telling the media they suck, but it seems like he may still have a blind spot when it comes to assessing his own ability to evaluate talent.

  52. 52 EaglesFANqq said at 10:48 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    How do you know he is a good coach and smart/rational? You don’t know that.

    How can a good coach put an offensive line like that together? He is not a good coach. Stop lying to yourself.

  53. 53 EAGLES said at 3:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Go away.

  54. 54 xeynon said at 9:17 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Not to oversell the importance of it, but I think this game has the chance to be a huge turning point, not only for this season but for the entire Kelly regime. If they win, and especially if they win impressively, they’re still in the hunt. If they get bounced, and the offense again looks horrid under the most favorable possible circumstances (at home, team with an awful defense, etc.) a miracle becomes necessary for them to have any shot at playing meaningful late season football and the season becomes a death march. At that point I think there’s a real risk of the kind of dissension in the ranks Billick was talking about because while they may respect him (for now), I don’t get the sense that Chip’s players love him and will go down fighting for him the way they would for a “players’ coach” like Reid or Rex Ryan. NEVER thought I’d say this about this season but I see a genuine possibility for the wheels to completely fall off (as in 4-12 dumpster fire, team quits, coach gets fired fall off) here.

  55. 55 eagleyankfan said at 10:37 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I thought last week would be a huge turning point…..

  56. 56 HawaiianEagle said at 10:52 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    it might have been…

  57. 57 RobNE said at 10:39 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I think Billick’s a moron and just add him to the heap of folks looking for click bait.

  58. 58 peteike said at 10:43 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    he may be one of the best coaches ever. In fact I was just hearing yesterday that hes been rotating O lineman since game 1 and its working like a charm. Another thing the rest of the league will follow and we should really think about with this teams struggles there. Innovative, Id love to see a write up on it somewhere

  59. 59 RobNE said at 10:45 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Billick is one of the best coaches ever? I don’t understand this. Or this is sarcasm about Kelly?

    whether he is going to lose the locker room is a lot different than someone claiming he is the best coach ever.

  60. 60 peteike said at 10:47 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    ohhhh haha, I read that as Bilichick, please ignore

  61. 61 xeynon said at 11:05 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    You’re entitled to that opinion, but Billick has had a lot of success as an NFL coach and has won a Super Bowl. I think he knows what he’s talking about re: the dynamics of NFL locker rooms.

  62. 62 ChoTime said at 11:47 AM on October 8th, 2015:

  63. 63 Sean Stott said at 12:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    That team won the Super Bowl in spite of Billick not because of him. There’s a reason he hasn’t coached in years, no one wants him. Philly turned him down. That’s why he’s so bitter.

    Side note, he’s a terrible commentator as well.

  64. 64 EaglesFANqq said at 10:46 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    They have no offensive line. Don’t get your hopes up.

  65. 65 HawaiianEagle said at 10:51 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Technically they have an offensive line, they just don’t execute well.

  66. 66 EaglesFANqq said at 10:57 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Let me interject. They have an untalented offensive line.

  67. 67 HawaiianEagle said at 11:15 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Fair enough

  68. 68 A_T_G said at 12:58 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I find our line very offensive.

  69. 69 Avery Greene said at 10:20 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    This is an ugly call. He’s what, about a couple inches off a yard?

  70. 70 RobNE said at 10:38 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    it’s crazy. He could be just fine, can’t even tell. I know the OL is a mess etc. we drop balls but we also just seem to have very bad luck. All the mistakes and a call here and there seem to happen at the worst time.

  71. 71 peteike said at 10:41 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    wahh, how is that even a penalty?

  72. 72 Jernst said at 8:32 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    For reference though, Riley at the top, circled in yellow is supposed to be on the line. And, the slot WR, I think it’s Huff is supposed to be off the line. The slot guy is clearly a yard behind Cooper, even though the angle obscures if a bit. Look at Huff’s back foot. It’s on the 14 yard line and his front foot is on the 13. Cooper’s back foot is on the 13 yard line with his front foot on the 12. Now look at Agholar’s. Back foot on the 13 and front foot on the 12. He’s right in line with the TE and Olinemen.

    You can’t look at the blue line. He’s not supposed to be right on the blue line to be considered on the line. Just like all the linemen. The front hands of the olinemen are all on the 12 yard line with their feet on the 13. Even though the LOS is the 11. Agholar should be a yard back.

  73. 73 Avery Greene said at 10:32 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    We know it’s the OL, but wow.

  74. 74 Avery Greene said at 10:37 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    The embeeded tweet from Gowton.

  75. 75 eagleyankfan said at 10:36 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    some ‘fun’ facts:

    The Eagles average just 3.8 yards per play in the first half of games, fewest in the league.

    Philadelphia averages just 23.9 yards per possession, fewest in the league while New Orleans is allowing 39.2 yards per opponent’s drive, highest in the league.

    The Saints have allowed a rushing touchdown is six straight games, longest streak in the league.

    (per roto)

  76. 76 RobNE said at 10:42 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Hardy said he loves Brady’s wife and hopes she comes to the game, and hopes she brings her sister too (I don’t know if she has one). Brady in response “I don’t care what Hardy thinks I am just getting ready for the game.”

    I’m going to take the Pats and give the points (whatever they are) in my pool this week.

  77. 77 Avery Greene said at 10:47 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Classless team with classless players.

  78. 78 EaglesFANqq said at 11:00 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’d rather have their team then the Eagles team.

  79. 79 peteike said at 11:19 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    so you are a fanboy loser who drools over Djax bombs. Well we knew that already anyway. No respectable Eagles fan would ever utter those words.

  80. 80 EaglesFANqq said at 11:41 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    So it’s illegal to say I would rather have Tom Brady than Sam Bradford. Get a life.

  81. 81 peteike said at 12:01 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    illegal lol

  82. 82 botto said at 12:23 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    yes you should be arrested

  83. 83 Mac said at 11:26 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Please take the time to become a patriots fan.

  84. 84 botto said at 12:23 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    you can have their team, they have blogs too, see ya

  85. 85 Julescat said at 12:57 PM on October 8th, 2015:


  86. 86 EaglesFANqq said at 10:51 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly is not a good coach. A good coach would never get rid of talented players, forcing him to use high draft picks to replace them then not being in a position to draft offensive linemen.

    2nd round Zach Ertz
    2nd round Jordan Matthews
    3rd round Josh Huff
    1st round Agholor

    If they kept DJax and resigned Maclin, they wouldn’t have needed to draft any of those players. I really have no clue why they took Zach Ertz. He sucks.

  87. 87 James said at 10:56 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    EVERYONE SUCKS…..blah blah blah, the wise words of another philly blowhard.

  88. 88 EaglesFANqq said at 10:58 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Would you trade all of those players for DJax and Maclin?

  89. 89 James said at 11:12 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I think if the OL is fixed its a different narrative. No, i’d keep them if it were me but complaining about a few young players when the run game isnt working is not very smart.

  90. 90 EaglesFANqq said at 11:13 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    I asked YOU, would you trade that list of players for Maclin and DJax RIGHT now

  91. 91 Julescat said at 12:56 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    DJax has been out all season

  92. 92 EaglesFANqq said at 12:58 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    answer the question.

  93. 93 A_T_G said at 1:01 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    First, you didn’t ask Julescat a question, you asked James. Second, James did: “No, i’d keep them…”

  94. 94 EaglesFANqq said at 1:05 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Then James isn’t winning on Fanduel nor Draft Kings. That’s for sure.

  95. 95 Tumtum said at 1:31 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    But he is doing better than you with Desean Jackson.

  96. 96 EaglesFANqq said at 1:33 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Ill take Maclin and Desean against those guys next week.

  97. 97 Tumtum said at 12:48 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Well let me check my old stat book. All 4 of those guys are out producing Desean Jackson.

  98. 98 EaglesFANqq said at 12:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    so you wouldnt make the trade?

  99. 99 Tumtum said at 1:11 PM on October 8th, 2015:


  100. 100 MattE said at 1:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    mariota, yes lol.

  101. 101 GEAGLE said at 6:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:


  102. 102 xeynon said at 11:07 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Ertz was drafted before they cut Jackson. WTF are you talking about?

  103. 103 EaglesFANqq said at 11:11 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    They thought Ertz could make up for DJAx.

  104. 104 EAGLES said at 3:35 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Clown troll LOL go away

  105. 105 Julescat said at 12:56 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    they tried to re-sign Maclin

  106. 106 EaglesFANqq said at 12:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    theres trying then theres doing. trying isnt enough.

  107. 107 Julescat said at 1:00 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Chiefs overpaid for Maclin. It’s a bad deal that will cause salary cap ripples for their team.

  108. 108 EaglesFANqq said at 1:06 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’d rather overpay for Maclin than overpay for loser Maxwell.

  109. 109 EaglesFANqq said at 1:09 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    published reports made it close enough to the same deal Maclin was offered with the Chiefs

    As they stood on the 16th tee, Maclin’s initial thought was just that.

    Then Reid called again.

    And 10 minutes later Maclin was Kansas City-bound.

    “It wasn’t the money; it was that 10 minutes,” Parres said. “Jeremy said, ‘(The Chiefs) just wanted me more, and I think that’s where I should be.’ “

  110. 110 EaglesFANqq said at 10:54 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    X 1 (26) – Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville
    2 (42) – Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
    X 3 (86) – Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
    X 4 (101) – Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
    X 5 (141) – Taylor Hart, DE, Oregon
    X 5 (162) – Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
    X 7 (224) – Beau Allen, NT, Wisconsin

    One decent slot reciever in the second round. Unbelievable. So bad.

  111. 111 Avery Greene said at 11:06 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Wow, you really don’t watch football do you? Allen and Hart have been playing well on the defensive side of the ball. Jury is still out on Smith and Huff. Smith might be a bust, but Huff still has some opportunity to turn it around. Hitting on 3-4 guys every draft is what you want.

  112. 112 Tumtum said at 12:44 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I saw a post where he said he was smarter than someone else. I got a nice chuckle out of it.

  113. 113 Richaud Jeaffreson said at 11:06 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Matthews, Hart, Allen, Rowe, Agholor, Shepherd*, and Logan can all play in this league.

  114. 114 EaglesFANqq said at 11:10 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    On this team they can.

  115. 115 MattE said at 1:21 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    i think Beau has outdone the 7th rd selection thus far…. but i agree with the rest of that class.

  116. 116 peteike said at 10:57 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    “The Boston Herald took a deep dive on the frequency with which New England has been rotating its offensive line, and it’s unlike anything else you’ll find in football.

    Through their first 30 offensive possessions this year, the Patriots have rolled out nine offensive-line combinations (not including kneels to end halves), and they deployed a 10th unique combination on goal-line packages against the Jaguars that resulted in three LeGarrette Blount rushing touchdowns. Against the Steelers in Week 1, they didn’t begin consecutive possessions with the same offensive-line combination until the sixth and seventh possessions.

    Most of these rotations have come at the guard position. Three linemen have taken a lot of snaps on both sides of the line, which — again — is quite unlike what other teams do. Josh Kline has played 10 series at left guard and 14 at right; Shaq Mason has played 20 at left guard; and Tre’ Jackson has played 16 at right guard. Only David Andrew,the team’s center, has played all snaps.”

    Interesting and worth trying with this mess at O line. Although doing this with rookies could differ from just bad players.

    “this rotation is inevitably causing opposing defenses to prepare not just for different packages, but also for different combinations of linemen within one individual package and within different packages.”

  117. 117 Richaud Jeaffreson said at 11:14 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Shaq Mason is a guy that I really wanted the Eagles to pick up.

  118. 118 ChoTime said at 12:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Man. Seeing adults named after the Big Aristotle is making me feel old.

  119. 119 ChoTime said at 11:04 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    So apparently the reason Bradford has been struggling is his ass is not strong enough. No, really. Hopefully he will continue to do squats and round into shape, er, no pun intended as the season goes along.

  120. 120 EaglesFANqq said at 11:05 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    He won’t be able to add muscle during the season. DO you know anything about lifting bro?

  121. 121 bill said at 1:04 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    “Don’t Laz(or) me, bro! Especially with the 2013 model!”

  122. 122 EaglesFANqq said at 11:10 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Cowboys Draft :

    2015 – Round 3 – OT
    2014 – Round 1 – OT
    2013 – Round 1 – C

    Eagles Draft :

    2015 – none
    2014 – none
    2013 – Round 1 – T

  123. 123 EaglesFANqq said at 11:16 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    This is a disgrace. Chip Kelly needs to be FIRED.

    When they lay an egg on Sunday afternoon Chip Kelly is going to get booed the fuck out of town!

    I want continuous BOOS all game long.

  124. 124 Tumtum said at 12:40 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I always knew you were a Dallas fan in disguise.

  125. 125 EaglesFANqq said at 12:48 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Nope. Bigger eagles fan than you

  126. 126 botto said at 1:32 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    no disguise necessary

  127. 127 Avery Greene said at 11:25 AM on October 8th, 2015:

    Interesting stuff from Paunil. Ertz said that depending on which TE is in the game is how defenses are playing them. If Ertz is in, they have extra DBs. If Celek is in the game they have bigger guys up front.

    Celek – 60% of the plays were run.
    Ertz – 70% of the plays were pass.

  128. 128 Tumtum said at 12:40 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Throw the ball to Brent. Ertz blocks or he doesn’t play. Team becomes less predictable.

  129. 129 EaglesFANqq said at 1:11 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    And waste another high draft pick???

  130. 130 Tumtum said at 1:15 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I guess you missed the part about Ertz blocking. I thought he was already a wasted pick according to you?

  131. 131 EaglesFANqq said at 1:20 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    most defenitely. Brent Celek was in his prime when we wasted a second rounder on a TE who can’t even play the position.

  132. 132 BobSmith77 said at 12:07 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    So in other words this is a game the Eagles don’t have any excuses to make even with all of their own injuries.

  133. 133 Tumtum said at 12:38 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Looks like most of the odds makers have us at -4 1/2. Against a team that has shown to be pretty bad on the road, and also holds a 1-4 record, with a QB with injury concerns.

    To me that is begging for the common folk to pour it into Philly. This line will shift. Smart money is on the Saints strait up.

    So in other words the Eagles lose, and they remain without excuse as they have in their other 3 loses.

  134. 134 botto said at 1:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    the saints were crap on the road until they came to philly last time too

  135. 135 Avery Greene said at 2:05 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    If you don’t get the reference and are offended, I apologize. But after reading your comment this is what I immediately thought of.

  136. 136 JoeBlow said at 3:05 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    out of this entire movie, this is my favorite part, idk why

  137. 137 EaglesFANqq said at 1:13 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Maclin couldn’t get Chip Kelly on the phone

  138. 138 Nailed It! said at 1:15 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I doubt the bias in this article.

  139. 139 EaglesFANqq said at 1:18 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    This deal puts him alongside players like Victor Cruz,Vincent Jackson and Mike Wallace.

    Cruz : 337
    Jackson : 292
    Wallace : 233
    Maclin : 398

    Chip Kelly couldn’t even realize the talent of Jeremy Maclin. He wouldn’t even pay him what he deserved and Jeremy Maclin is better than all of those receivers.

  140. 140 Nailed It! said at 1:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yet Maclin had the most successful year he has ever had under Chip.

  141. 141 EaglesFANqq said at 1:33 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He has more yards this year through 4 games than he did last year.

  142. 142 Nailed It! said at 1:33 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    And yet that Chiefs team is hot garbage as well. Makes you think.

  143. 143 EaglesFANqq said at 1:34 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    The teams they lost to are a combined 12-0. Are you kidding me? They are a good team.

  144. 144 Nailed It! said at 1:34 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Nah, their offensive line is as bad or worse than ours.

  145. 145 Nailed It! said at 1:37 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Also, the teams they have played have a record of 13-3 and ours have a combined record of 11-5 not a huge difference you big oaf.

  146. 146 EaglesFANqq said at 1:41 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I said the teams they lost to you dumb bitch. just shut up. you are an idiot

  147. 147 Nailed It! said at 1:44 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I think the Chiefs could use you on their sites. But I will chirp you some more. How do you feel about Desean? He has not played yet this year. Maclin Love the guy but he does not play for us anymore. I am curious how you feel about him. What is your take on Mathis? Good Bad? What about Chip? I feel like you are a fan but correct me if I am wrong.

  148. 148 EaglesFANqq said at 1:50 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    goddd shut the FUCK UP

  149. 149 peteike said at 2:06 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    “FRIKKIN IDIOT! Whatever I feel like I wanna do! GOSH!”

    this moe sounds like napoleon dynamite with these posts

  150. 150 TypicalDouche said at 2:20 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    “Stupid is as stupid does”..Good ol Mr. Gump nailed that one on the head with this guy.

  151. 151 GEAGLE said at 6:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    My favorite Gumpism: “my last relationship was a lot like Gump, I was a retard and she was a whore”….

  152. 152 Nailed It! said at 2:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    That is just, like, your opinion, man. I am just trying to tell you that new shit has come to life!

  153. 153 Avery Greene said at 2:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    LOL. This is funny to me.

    Idiot: This is my point
    You: Counterpoint, it’s false.
    Idiot: You are a dumb B…

    Ahhh, the last resort of someone without a decent argument.

  154. 154 Rambo said at 2:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Who’s the #2 in KC these days? Duh.

  155. 155 botto said at 1:31 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    when is lights out for you?
    geez. boring

  156. 156 Julescat said at 1:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    that’s been debunked

  157. 157 EaglesFANqq said at 1:57 PM on October 8th, 2015:


  158. 158 Julescat said at 1:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Maclin’s story has changed several times from Kelly not taking his calls to the Chiefs upping their offer after Maclin talked to Kelly..

  159. 159 EaglesFANqq said at 2:06 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    you got a source?

  160. 160 Avery Greene said at 2:16 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Well there’s this: @Julescat:disqus

    Where CK is texting him after the fact, and that Maclin wanted to go back to Missouri

    Then there’s this where he just said he couldn’t get something worked out:

    Then there’s where he said the fans shouldn’t dump on him because “he’s always been respectful to me.”

    Chip here said he had discussions with Mac over the weekend before his decision:

    I found this in about 2 minutes of searching Google.

  161. 161 GEAGLE said at 6:20 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Lol if Maclin didn’t appreciate playing for chip in his offense after putting up career numbers last year that got him a big time Pay day, I’m sure a season of playing with Alex smith in andys offense will
    Sure make him miss playing for chip every day except the days
    He gets to cash his checks..

  162. 162 EaglesFANqq said at 1:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

  163. 163 MattE said at 1:28 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Calling Greg Hardy a piece of human excrement is an insult to excrement everywhere.

  164. 164 Tumtum said at 1:35 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He sucks, but to say that he is coming out ‘Guns Blazin’, if that is to what you are referring, is pretty benign.

  165. 165 GEAGLE said at 1:38 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    My man, have you heard how he spoke about Tom Brady’s wife? The wife of a man is out of bounds, even in football. It’s just completely out of have no business even mentioning the mans wife… I hope Brady scores 70 on Dallas after what this piece of shit said the first time some on stuck a mic in his face
    I don’t wish serious injuries on human beings, but if he got hurt and could never play again, I would feel like he got what he deserved..
    this man has NEVER shown any remorse. It’s disgusting that Ray Rice who has apologized in every way humanly possible and is obviously trying to be a better man has been black balled, while this piece of shit gets to continue to play football after he made almost 20milliom over the course of his suspension. S

  166. 166 Tumtum said at 1:43 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I agree with you 100% on everything except for the Gisele thing. She is a Super Model. All he said (that I saw) was that he hopes she comes to the game and brings her friends.

    I can see if you go the other way on that. I just think its really stupid for him to be crucified over using a saying like “guns blazing”. If he was using innuendo he is smarter than I give him credit for.

  167. 167 ChoTime said at 2:00 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, I don’t think anyone is really feeling sympathy for this guy at this point.

  168. 168 peteike said at 2:01 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    the guns part was far worse than Bradys super model wife. He paid the victim off to not prosecute and still thinks hes above reproach using a line like that. Eff that guy. The term itself is benign but not in his context, its quite awful actually and JJ response was even more tone deaf.

  169. 169 Tumtum said at 4:19 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I guess reasonable minds can disagree. Maybe if I heard the context in which it was used (voice, body language) my opinion would be different.

  170. 170 GEAGLE said at 6:18 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He didn’t say anything that is so horrible… But considering the circumstances of his crimes, and today’s hyper sensatve climate (when it comes to domestic abuse I think the sensitivity is absolutely warranted) what he said is just dumb, and it opens himself up and the team who have him a shot trying to endure a mess of injuries to dealing with uneccessary drama and negativity..
    just the simple fact that he said something that JerryJones is already having to answer questions about makes him a Moron.., when you get a second chance, your teammates, coaches and Front office people better not have to answer questions about your actions.. What’s amazing is this moron couldn’t go a week without doing something stupid that had attracted negative attention to his team..

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 6:10 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He really hasn’t shown any remorse for his behavior of terrorizing a woman he had outweighed by 200 friggin pounds.. Say what you will about ray rice, disgusting actions not the man has tried to apologize and make amends in every way possible and it does seem sincere and Not solely motivated by doing lip service to try and get a second chance in the NFL…
    Unlike Ray Rice, Hardy was lucky that he got to keep all his money, like 13mil Collected from panthers for sitting home all year, this crumb even had his suspension reduced by more than 50% and at no point has he shown any remorse and still doesn’t take responsibility for how he terrorized that woman…. Which is all way worse than this idiots stupid gun blazing talk after guns were involved in the terrorizing of his woman victim, not to mention the heightened sensitivity because of all the horrible gun problems involving Children in our schools.., and under no circumstances do you talk about another mans wife.. I don’t care if you are Bart Scott saying you think his wife is hot as a compliment, keep the mans wife out of your mouth….
    And that doesn’t even include that getting Brady and the patriots fires up with your mouth has historically proven to be a terrible idea.,if the Bills thought Brady and the Pats were trying to embarress them, it should be fun to see what Brady does to this Dallas team in Jerry world

  172. 172 Julescat said at 1:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    especially coming off a suspension for assaulting a woman. I think I would steer clear of those type of remarks.

  173. 173 botto said at 1:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    that’s the point yes

  174. 174 GEAGLE said at 2:23 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Even if he has no ill will, or doesn’t say anything hurtful, it’s pretty stupid when you Know you are under a microscope and talk like this will just add to the Fuel of female activists groups which most likely haven’t forgotten and got over the fact that he is allowed to play football and has made 20mil over the course of his suspension for terrorizing a woman he our weighed by like 200lbs.
    Even if you don’t mean no harm, you are saying shit that can easily be twisted around to Bring more negative attention to the team that gave you a second chance.. And with Their injuries, they don’t need any more negative attention and drama to deal with

  175. 175 anon said at 2:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    ““I love seeing Tom Brady, he’s cool as crap,” Hardy said via the Dallas Morning News. “Have you seen his wife?
    I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game, all her friends come to the game. One of my favorite games of the year, guys.”

    Is this the quote? If so what are we really talking about here?

  176. 176 GEAGLE said at 2:15 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    There is NO context in which it’s appropriate for Greg to bring up Brady’s wife in an interview.., OUT OF BOUNDS!!
    Last week, Jackass Bart Scott brought up his wife and said “she is Hot”, and that’s just as out of bounds.., why you bringing up a mans wife? Why are you calling a mans wife “Hot”?
    It’s just 100% out of bounds, And it’s certainly NOT something someone who has gotten into trouble for how he treats woman needs to be talking about the moment his punishment ends..
    To make matters worse, this moron is giving Psycho Tom even more fuel for this game, which is the worst thing you can do against the Pats, their entire motivation system is Bellichick using shit opponents say, to get his team completely fired up to make them pay.. ITs Bellichicks main motivational style/tool… You just get back don a year and a half suspension for being a piece of shit, and tight away your mouth is Writing checks your teams ass probably isn’t going to be able to cash in Sunday… Just moronic in every way imaginable

  177. 177 anon said at 2:20 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    she’s a supermodel, it wasn’t like Hardy was saying that he was trying smash that – though i guess you could go there with it, i think he was just having fun w/ the media.

  178. 178 BobSmith77 said at 2:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Big deal. He didn’t say anything negative or derogatory about her let alone intimidating/threatening.

    Idle chatter that people need to find a reason to be offended by in today’s endless media cycle.

  179. 179 Sean Stott said at 4:49 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    If you’re Greg Hardy you don’t bring up guns.

    If you’re Riley Cooper, you don’t bring up country music.

    If you’re Mike Vick, you don’t bring up dogs.

    Super simple stuff.

  180. 180 GEAGLE said at 2:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    cHarles Haily has been working and training with Greg Hardy and has Raved about his work ethic, talent and the shape he is in, but as talented as Hardy is, Charles Haily warned Hardy that no matter what good shape he is in and how ready he is, after missing the last 20 games he can’t expect to be his dominant self right away.. Haily talked about how after this type of layoff you have to expect t that it’s going to take time to shake off the rest and be able to play to your full potential, and that Hardy can’t get discouraged when he sees that he has a long way to go before he can shake the rust and get back to playing at his level,,
    And we are talking about a man who missed less time than our starting QB, and who hasn’t had to overcome significant injuries like our QB has had to do while he had been missing so much game time, and unlike Bradford, Hardy had reached the pinnacle of the sport as far as being one of the best players in the game at his position:., playing DE, isn’t even close to the difficulty of playing QB..
    Just to put things in perspective, no excuses, but genuine real life factors that we can take some hope from that our QB is still capable of showing a lot of improvement as plays more games and gets more comfortable..
    sam needs to be better, but there is no doubt he is capable of still showing a lot of improvement before he maxes out his talent.. I have No idea how great he can become, but i am convinced that he is capable of so much more than what we have seen., which makes me appreciate how under so much fire from every direction, Chip hasn’t been quick to bring Sanchez off the bench..I was a fan of coach Bill Obriem, but seeing what he is doing In Houston, makes me appreciate that Chip is smart enough to stay the course in the face of adversity and pressure.. Developing Bradford and Keeping him healthy For a multi year stretch of games is still by far the single most important thing for this franchise…I think what Bill Obrien is doing, flip flopping QBs like 8 times already in the first month of the season and I feel like that’s extremely amateurish and I thought Bill Obrien was a better coach than that:..
    i would rather miss the playoffs this year, with Bradford taking every single snap at QB all year, staying healthy and going into the offseason Healthy, rather than see Bradford get hurt again, be In and out of the lineup and see Samchez win us a play off game…. hopefully it won’t come down to this “either or” scenario and we see Bradford stay healthy and atart the get hot, and lead us to some 2013 hot streak winning us the division after a 1-3 start…
    But developing Bradford and keeping him healthy this entire year is still the most important thing for the next 3-4 years of this franchise, and I’m appreciative that under way more pressure than OBriem, chips
    Confidence in his convictions hasn’t waivered… Change for the sake of change is never the answer, some times having the strength to stay the course is what’s best to dig our way out of an ugly hole..

  181. 181 anon said at 2:06 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’d rather see sanchez play amazing win us a playoff game and we can be done w/ sammy b. I like sammy b, but i think sanchez is actually really good in this offense as well and way cheaper. Good thing about sammy b is no turnovers. But maybe sanchez throws a more catcheable ball?

  182. 182 botto said at 2:27 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Sammy throws better deep when and if he does, but I like sanchez in this offense too. he threw a ton of completions in, ahem, pre-season… and looked fine. but didn’t everything?

  183. 183 anon said at 2:32 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    true, but he moves the offense at lightening speed, which i love watching. Sammy B runs things a lot slower to my eye. Doesn’t even look like CK’s offense.

  184. 184 botto said at 2:36 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    i’m with you. but its hard to jump off Sammy now for Kelly. impossible really. and maybe he is just warming up after all.
    this is the game that will tell us. how many times have we said that this year?

  185. 185 anon said at 2:49 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    great seeing the deep ball last week but those were basically freebies. Hopefully we take more shots on 1st and 2nd down instead of losing yds w/ run plays.

  186. 186 botto said at 4:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    yeah no reason to run anymore. just bomb it out there.

  187. 187 anon said at 5:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    we have Riley Cooper and Miles Austin two of the best deep threats in the league.

  188. 188 GEAGLE said at 5:57 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Doubt we would like what Sanchez would have looked like In this offense these first 4 games… And I was extremely disappointed in the preseason that I didn’t see the year two growth in this offense I would have hoped to see..
    If Bill Obrien keeps acting like an impulsive fool, he will be fired pretty soon, and I would love to see him have to take a job as a QB coach under chip and Pat (my new coaching wishful thinking)

  189. 189 EaglesFANqq said at 2:39 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Nobody is good in this offense because the offensive line personnel is so pathetic.

  190. 190 Julescat said at 3:10 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    they is?

  191. 191 GEAGLE said at 5:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Done with Sammy B and then what? Draft a young QB, hope that he pans out and wait 4-5 years that QBs like Rogers, Flacco, Matt Ryan needed to develope into QBs capable of winning anything? Are you fucking Nuts?..
    The quickest path possible to having a QB good enough to win anything that can make this city happy is keeping Bradford healthy over a stretch of 3-4 years and coach Him up and put him in a good enough situation to help Bradford finally realize his full potential….. Bradford has all the tools, he is just in need of serious continuity both playing against NFL defenses, continuity playing in the same offense, with the same players in order to even have a chance to consistently see him play to the best of his ability.,,, the kid finally is starting to look like he can actually stop worrying about whether he can get thru NFL games and you are ready to Piss away his talent and upside after seeing the kid play 4 games in the past 2 years? wtf man?
    I can promise you one thing.. If you make decisions to discard
    QBs after you see them play 4 games, you will end up waiting 3 decades to find a QB to move forward with… I could understand if we are seeing the best Bradford is capable of and feel he is a maxed out talent, but we haven’t even been close to seeing that yet…,, Sanchez, who looks worse the more he has to play, who didn’t show any year 2 growth this preseason that we would hope to see in a returning QB is what you want to give up on Bradford for?
    You really think if we put Sanchez behind this OL and non existent run game for these first 4 games it would have looked any better than what we have seen? That’s crazy;..,
    I don’t understand dude.. I really don’t fucking get it, we will have to agree to disagree because this makes zero sense to me

  192. 192 anon said at 6:21 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    unclear he’ll have that much time obviously we have to make a decision on him this year, it’s not like we gave nicky sticks a ton of time to develop in the system, put that on top of the fact that you’d have to pay sam a pretty penny to stick around. Chip is probably loving the no interceptions though.

  193. 193 Joe Minx said at 2:17 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Under ordinary circumstances I would never do this, but this is so spectacularly stupid it defies all logic. When you read this be grateful for what we have here on this blog. From a post on TATE:

    I would be willing to see a really bad season to see Chip gone.
    Chip Kelly isn’t worth patience. He got rid of Pro Bowlers and a franchise QB (Herremans, Mathis, Maclin, McCoy, and Foles[and a 2nd round pick]). No coach would do stupid stuff like this. Many coaches would’ve loved to have these players. Not many coaches have this luxury. Chip did, but he blew that away.

    We have right players my arse Chip! If he really thinks that, he’s f’ing clueless. If Eagles have right players, Why are Eagles 1-3? Can you answer that Chip? He talks about culture yet he doesn’t want to work with his colleagues. I had enough of him.

    I don’t know about better, what about Jennifer Welter? I would have more faith in her than I would Chip. It would be worth it to give her a shot. She knows how to be a team player, would actually work with other Eagles personnel, probably will listen to players unlike Chip, she wouldn’t think she’s above anyone, might actually put players/team in a position to win games, and not make stupid moves.

    Best case scenario: If she works out, they found their coach for next several years. Worst case scenario: If she doesn’t do well, Eagles can always get someone else at head coach next season. It wouldn’t be a waste of time to bring her in. Eagles would have nothing to lose. Low risk/high reward move.

    Lurie: PLEASE let misery end and fire Chip Kelly. No Eagles fans want Chip to ruin this team even further. While you’re at it, fire Billy Davis as well.

  194. 194 anon said at 2:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    it’s a 1-3 start, it’s not the first one it’s not the last one.

  195. 195 botto said at 2:23 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I ain’t reading that gobbage

  196. 196 Joe Minx said at 2:29 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Wish I would have done that.

  197. 197 RobNE said at 2:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    not that far off from the troll’s comments

  198. 198 BobSmith77 said at 2:30 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Even more ridiculous than most of the troll’s comments mindless the childish insults/swearing

  199. 199 Joe Minx said at 2:31 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, this is even worse if that’s possible.

  200. 200 GEAGLE said at 2:53 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Lmao off… What a clown, guess I should thank him for the comic relief..
    Takes a serious MORON to not understand why Chip Kelly can’t say that he doesn’t have the right players even if he believes it and wishes he could say
    It during week 5 of an NFL season when we are 1 fuckin game out of 1st place..
    I’m sorry, but if media members are wasting what little access they get asking Chip if he has the right players in week 5… You are a friggin imbecile.
    iF you are a fan who gets mad when chip answers “yes we have the right players”, you are a friggin imbecile
    If you don’t understand why that’s the only way he can answer that question right now no matter what he really thinks, you are a friggin Imbecile.
    If you are a media member that will continue to ask that question expecting to EVER get a different answer you are a friggiin Imbecile..
    What type of Moron doesn’t understand why chip can’t say that his players suck and aren’t good enough in week 5? lol you think definitively trashing our players like that is going to help save this season? What type of imbecile doesn’t understand why that’s the lasts thing in the friggin world that chip can say right now.. You think this is a mess? Watch how worse it could get if a coach/GM is dumb enough to say some shit like that…

    And if these blowhards would take the time to understand why a play didn’t work, no one would be disagreeing with the notion that we aren’t executing to our capabilities right now… When we use the right technique and 11 players do their job and beat their man, this offense works as well as it ever did… When guys make the smallest mistake that they have done correctly a million times, they will get beat by their opponent.. One weak link in the chain can derail an entire offense., it’s
    Really not coach speak bullshit, it’s exactly what this game is all about…

  201. 201 HawaiianEagle said at 6:02 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Wait…who’s a friggin imbecile? JK…

  202. 202 GEAGLE said at 6:17 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I still get a few shots in the chamber if you want me to bust off on a few more fools 😉

  203. 203 RobNE said at 2:28 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I thought the first rule of trolling was don’t feed the troll. Folks are having lengthy conversations with him/her instead. I’m still hoping Tommy appoints a moderator or two.

  204. 204 Nailed It! said at 2:31 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Sometimes if you piss trolls off hard enough they get so mad they go away.

  205. 205 ChoTime said at 4:26 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    It appears that discipline has broken down at Igglesblitz and half of the currently active posters are feeding the troll. Execution, one might say, is lacking. On the other hand, the troll does have football knowledge and interest and the discussions are not necessarily worse than others commonly seen here, for example, “blame the media day/bunker mentality” threads. Given that Tommy will probably not be actively moderating, and the troll is, at least, a football fan, perhaps it is best that we simply treat him as any other poster with somewhat distasteful habits. In other words, stop calling him a troll. I will abide by the wishes of the group.

  206. 206 TypicalDouche said at 5:19 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    You seem to have a lot of opinions on rules that should be set towards how people talk on this blog, how the same people interact with trolls, and basically try to tell people on how to post. Why don’t you just start your own blog and make your own rules then? Me personally I don’t care anymore who feeds what troll but you tend to talk like you are a boss of some sorts and people should listen to what you say for some reason. Let them do whatever they want and if you don’t like well tough shit friend.

  207. 207 GEAGLE said at 5:36 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Stopped reading what that blowhard writes a while ago, might as well treat him like a troll and ignore him since it’s rare he provides anything of value other than exhibiting some Serious Bitch behavior unbecoming of a are above his bullshit man… See the name, quickily hit the minimize button before you can read more than the first 3 words and keep it moving… It’s really the best way to deal with the trash nonsense .

  208. 208 ChoTime said at 6:42 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Just let me know if you need me to dumb things down so you can understand or if you need any words defined, blowhard Potty-Mouth.

  209. 209 HawaiianEagle said at 5:39 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Bingo! Come on Cho – we live in a society where everyone’s voice counts, right? Even “trolls” have the right to come out from under the bridge. And feel free to think for yourself – F what the group wants.

  210. 210 ChoTime said at 6:37 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, the post was kind of a joke. Guess it flew over some people’s heads, thanks for letting me know.

  211. 211 ChoTime said at 6:35 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    As you say, I’m just another poster. Sharing my opinion just like you and everyone else. I make zero claim to any kind of authority. If you don’t appreciate my humor or my observations, please ignore my posts just like I do to those I don’t wish to read.

    That being said, feel free to tell me not to tell other people what to do.

  212. 212 AsianEagle said at 2:37 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I feel like he’s the village idiot now… not s troll. Occasionally I laugh at some of his posts lol… I tolerate him and he’s not harming anyone like a good village idiot.

  213. 213 Nailed It! said at 2:38 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    OT: The Flyers start tonight! So psyched. Loved the Hakstol hiring and Love what Hextoll is doing with our farm system and overall management of the club. Not overly optimistic for this year but hopefully we see an improved D and a more aggressive game through the middle of the ice. Can’t wait until we see extended action of Hagg and Ghost if and when they get called up!

    Go Flyers!

  214. 214 GEAGLE said at 2:41 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Do we have a playoff team this year?

  215. 215 Nailed It! said at 2:47 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Doubtful, still working through a new coach and the GM trying to right the franchise ship. I would say we could get lucky and sneak in if we get hot down the stretch but probably looking at 5-10 points outside of the playoffs. Then with a few young guys coming up next year and 2017 we will have perennial cup teams.

  216. 216 Media Mike said at 3:15 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Agree completely.

  217. 217 GEAGLE said at 5:33 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Thank you sir… Flyers may as well have fallen in line with the young player movement that all our franchises are in the middle of…

  218. 218 Rambler said at 6:13 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I personally think that they are close. They might squeeze into the playoffs, but I would not expect them to actually do anything. I definitely expect more of an effort team than last year, and hopefully we get to see some of the younger D prospects later in the year (for one reason or the other). I do expect them to be more fun to watch than last year, but realistically they are a few years way.

  219. 219 Nailed It! said at 6:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah like I said they may get hot down the stretch and sneak into the playoffs, but with how strong the rest of the metro is it will be tough for the Fly guys.

  220. 220 botto said at 2:43 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    you know the old chant: eagles suck drop the puck!

  221. 221 BobSmith77 said at 3:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    So does this Flyers team. They are trapped in cap limbo, don’t have 1-2 great young players about to come up, and aren’t bad enough to get a top 3 pick.

    Eeiry how similar their situation is right now compared to the years before they got Lindros.

    Their biggest problem is that the NHL has priced itself out of the range of most fans. The Flyers are advertising ‘$49 tickets’ to select games as a value.

    I’ll take my dad to a game or two but that is only because I’ll buy tickets from a friend & they are good seats. Season ticket holders also get a pretty decent discount off face value. Not quite 20% but close to it on the lower level in the first 20 rows.

  222. 222 Nailed It! said at 3:39 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I would say they do have a talent pool coming up the pipeline finally. Ghost, Sanheim, Hagg, Morin are getting closer. With Aube-Kubel, Proverov and Konecny a few years out. Plus, hopefully this year Laughts can become a solid NHL forward.

  223. 223 Media Mike said at 3:15 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I’ll be more excited once Vinny and two vet D men are gone.

  224. 224 Nailed It! said at 3:21 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I know, but it is encouraging that we do not have Grossman or Mcdonald in the line up anymore. Just hope we continue the trend of smart management. Hextall was given a pile of garbage and he is recycling this thing into something special. God I hate Holmgren, two years after he was removed from being GM and he still has sooooo many terrible contracts haunting this team.

  225. 225 D3FB said at 6:55 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Flyers lost.


  226. 226 Nailed It! said at 9:45 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Something, something, does Texas have a hockey program?

  227. 227 Nailed It! said at 9:52 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Btw, did you see that 3on3 OT? I literally don’t think I took a breath the entire time. Complete Mayhem and I kinda hate myself but I loved every second of it.

  228. 228 GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I really in agreement with chips vision of wanting 200lb plus, tall, long corners and safeties with CB coverage ability… i really feel good about about the direction this secondary is headed..
    With That said, I wouldn’t mind having a quick, smaller CB in our stable of DBs like Brandon Boykin for times when opponents come to town with smaller WRs like Brandin Cooks/Phillip Dorsett types,,
    So far, Cooks isn’t showing the year two leap one of would expect, hopefully we do not allow this to be his breakout game..
    If Cooks has a quiet game and Jordan Mathews produces more than his Muse, Marques Colston, it should give our offense a decent chance at producing more than their saints counterparts unless we see q major discrepancy between their RB production and our lack of RB production..,
    Hard to have faith in our OL getting the run game going when we are so banged up with injuries, fortunately the saints OL is also pretty banged up and is ripe for our front 7 having a big game against the saints OL assuming that we aren’t missing 3 of our 7 Defensive Lineman.. It probably wasn’t talked about enough, but only having 4 healthy defensive lineman in the skins game was a pretty bad disadvantage. One of the strengths of this team is the DEEP DL rotation allowing us to throw fresh beasts against offenses all game.. I’m sure having half your DL rotation out had to have some type of fatigue effect on our defensive front Late in the skins game…
    When the OL can’t get a first down, we all know it puts a strain on our defense that has hurt us all season, so I’m sure being short half of our rotation had to take some serious wind out of our sails during that last drive…

  229. 229 anon said at 2:48 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I don’t think we’ll see a lot of the typical running plays, think CK will scheme something different, maybe more passing plays, screens to the outside, stick throws, etc. On outside corners I honestly think technique is more important that size, it’s also sad that culture keeps you from getting a guy like Talib who is perfect for this scheme.

  230. 230 Sean Stott said at 4:46 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Except Brandon Boykin isn’t quick.

  231. 231 EaglesFANqq said at 2:41 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Big people beat up little people. More Chip Kelly nonsense. Get him OUTTA HERE!

  232. 232 botto said at 3:02 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    you’re right, little people beat up big people, duh, its so obvious little guy.

  233. 233 EaglesFANqq said at 3:41 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    You ever hear of David and Goliath?

    How about Allen Iverson?

    What about Desean Jackson.

    These are all little people who beat up big people.

  234. 234 anon said at 3:45 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    combined rings between the two of them?

  235. 235 botto said at 4:04 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    upsetting because AI deserves a ring for the run in 2001.

  236. 236 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:10 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Shaq was much bigger

  237. 237 P_P_K said at 4:19 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    The Sixers won that first game. I was hyped. Then reality set in.

  238. 238 botto said at 4:27 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    is till occasionally watch the end of that game one on youtube. it was so quiet at staples center when Ai was schooling them

  239. 239 EaglesFANqq said at 4:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly has how many rings?

  240. 240 botto said at 4:26 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    and how many does your boy Jason Garret have?

  241. 241 EaglesFANqq said at 4:27 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Jason Garret didn’t make that ridiculous statement.

  242. 242 botto said at 4:27 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    did chip Kelly say something?

  243. 243 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:42 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    You are worse than the National media. Lets take something Chip said and run with it to infinity

  244. 244 the DONALD said at 4:42 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    standard weak rebuttal

  245. 245 TypicalDouche said at 5:15 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    How many rings does Andy Reid have? How many rings do Desean, Maclin, and Shady have? Since you gargle their nuts on a regular basis please explain why they don’t have any.

  246. 246 EaglesFANqq said at 5:21 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    how many rings does Chip Kelly have? -1?

  247. 247 TypicalDouche said at 5:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly has been in the NFL for 3 years. How many years of NFL experience does Andy Reid have? Theres no comparison idiot.

  248. 248 EaglesFANqq said at 10:18 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Coach Reid went 11-5 in his second and third season. That’s a lot better than Chipper.

  249. 249 TypicalDouche said at 12:17 PM on October 9th, 2015:

    1st off I didn’t ask you what were Reid’s records. 2nd, 1 game difference isn’t “a lot better then Chipper”. 3rd Reid also had years and years of experience in the NFL before landing the Eagles job unlike Chip. So once again your argument is a moot point and you’re proved wrong again.

  250. 250 EaglesFANqq said at 1:45 PM on October 9th, 2015:

    So Reid was better than Chip. That’s undeniable.

  251. 251 HawaiianEagle said at 5:45 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Well in that case EVERY Eagle player and coach EVER sucks cause we have 0 rings…

  252. 252 EaglesFANqq said at 10:17 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Im not the one who said the ring crap.

  253. 253 botto said at 3:53 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    oh you said beat up, not run faster than…

  254. 254 GIGGLEqq said at 9:09 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    …and into your bedroom, right?

  255. 255 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:48 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Hey can someone explain the logic behind the OG tapping the C Kelce when to snap? Is there no cadence just tap n snap? Saw that All 22 its easy for the opposing DL to get off..?

  256. 256 anon said at 4:51 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    stadiums are loud — pretty typical for shot gun teams to use that tap to snap

  257. 257 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:53 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Cool thanks man. Maybe do a double tap n snap or something to mix it up. Both OGs look back one is a bluff one is the real tap for snap. Gonna remember that now.

  258. 258 anon said at 5:02 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    yeah they need to mix things up for sure.

  259. 259 MagsHarvestMoon said at 8:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    It was suggested somewhere yesterday that other teams know most of the time if a run play or pass play is coming by which tight end is on the field. Celek or Ertz. Because the blocking will be different. That needs to be changed.

  260. 260 anon said at 9:06 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    when i was at jets game i could tell b/c if cooper / celek was on the field it was a run play.

  261. 261 Avery Greene said at 10:38 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, when I read that I got annoyed. Either Ertz needs to block better or just send Celek out on some routes.

  262. 262 anon said at 10:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    celek had two tds* last game

  263. 263 Avery Greene said at 10:58 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeah, but 60% of the plays he’s in they run. With Ertz, 70% of the plays he’s in they pass.

    Those numbers should be closer to 50/50 if you ask me.

  264. 264 HawaiianEagle said at 5:34 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I thought you were going to say “can someone please explain to me the parlay?”

  265. 265 laeagle said at 4:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Gentle reminder, folks. Please do not feed the troll. The more you engage, the more it posts, and the more useful conversations from actual Eagles fans you cover up.

  266. 266 holeplug said at 5:27 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    this is on tommy. ban the trolls yourself or if life stuff is getting in the way add a mod who is around to clean up the forum

  267. 267 Avery Greene said at 10:37 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Or at least say something to the guy.

  268. 268 botto said at 5:01 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    if the eagles win and the rest of the nfc east lose we are all tied up?
    and no place to go….
    could happen.
    the giants have the best chance to win I guess out of the others…

  269. 269 anon said at 5:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    still have two division losses.

  270. 270 botto said at 5:11 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    but games to play to get them back.
    but yeah win first do the calculations in december

  271. 271 HawaiianEagle said at 5:33 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    as long as we have better win/loss that is irrelevant

  272. 272 Sean Stott said at 5:54 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    There’s not tiebreakers at week 5

  273. 273 EaglesFANqq said at 5:16 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    At another juncture, when asked about NFL people who think the spread option won’t last in the NFL, Kelly shrugged.

    “I would say they could be right,” he said. “Anybody can say whatever they want. I don’t have a crystal ball.”

  274. 274 GIGGLEqq said at 9:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    You spread your butt cheeks for Chip?

  275. 275 GEAGLE said at 6:54 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Malcolm Jenkins really said it best:.., he talked about how even tho this start has not gone even close to how we wanted it to go, “there is Nothing that we set out to do this year that’s still not in front of us and attainable”.,
    As bad as this start has been, that really is the truth. Of course as fans we hope to see our team dominate the League each and every week, but when we look at season goals that actually matter, what’s really important this year?
    1) Keeping Sam healthy so he can start to get the continuity needed to finally realize his full potential now that his rookie contract is coming to an end..

    2) Win the NFC EAST… 1 game out of first place in a division where:
    A) Cowboys can be in the beginning of an ugly losing streak that isn’t going to end any time soon
    B) GIants look to be in the driver seat right now but I love how we matchup against them these last couple of years
    C) Washington is far from an unbeatable juggernaut and losing Jordan Reed to his 7th concussion should prove to be a monster loss for their
    Passing game
    3) Win a playoff game…. One silver lining of this mess that we are experiencing. For a new team that still needs to Gel into a quality team, if we can endure such a terrible start, overcome it and get control of this division while hobbling into the bye week, for a new team like this, overcoming so much early adversity can really be HUGE in EXPEDITING our Gelling Process,. We can either crumble to the adversity, or we can overcome the adversity and use it as a spring board to grow into the team that reflects all the talent we have and gets these players to play to their full potential..
    So Malcolm Jenkins is completely right! All old goals are still only a 1 game difference away, and this division will NEVER be weaker, so as bad as its been Malcolm is also correct that it really makes no sense to be walking around Novacare with a bad attitude all week and we should actually be excited and hungry because of the opportunity we have that we are still very much in the hunt for this division…. All our important goals are still completely in our grasp…

    But I do worry that this next stretch of games before the bye week is Crucial, need to win atleast 2 of 3, and The one loss can’t be to the Giants… With so many new players we are getting to know, and all types of injuries, we sure are about to find out how Tough these players are, how much heart do these players have… We are going to find out a lot about these new players.. Who will tap out? And who will step up and be a thug like Lane Johnson who plans on grinding it out and playing on a MCL and Amkle sprain?

    When we reach the bye week, we are going to have learned a ton about this brand new Eagles team

  276. 276 Tumtum said at 7:45 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I would love to see Kelly come out this week with a different look on offense. Maybe go with the long ball a little bit more early. When the offense has clicked that has been the catalyst. Maybe run the ball a little differently than he has before. Just give the defense looks they haven’t seen. Maybe even slow the tempo down as McManus suggested at phillymag.

    We are 1-3 and haven’t had much success. I think now is the time to start being the mad scientist everyone thinks he is.

    And no I don’t mean double reverses.

  277. 277 anon said at 7:59 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    it’s a shame that we can’t run double reverses b/c people literally can’t hold on to the ball. I think next week will look different, either more RO or more bootlegs since sammy is getting so much A-gap pressure.

  278. 278 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:17 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    People kill Kelly over that call only because Ags dropped the ball. I hate to say, it but execution.

  279. 279 MagsHarvestMoon said at 8:44 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Les Miles, LSU: “If we don’t drop balls, we score two more touchdowns and maybe a 150 yards more of offense.”

    “They need to place an even higher premium on offensive efficiency: superior blocking,*** quality execution,*** smart play-calling and solid quarterback play.” an Ohio team

    “We have to execute better,” said defensive end Cam Heyward.

    “Torrey Smith Stresses Need to Execute Offensively”

    “There’s some calls I haven’t executed properly in the first three games. I have to execute better.” Julio Jones

    Some folks complained that Chip shouldn’t talk about poor execution. The fact is everybody talks about execution being the key.

  280. 280 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:52 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    That’s what happens when you are 1-3. The Offensive Coaches and the offensive players are both to blame

  281. 281 MagsHarvestMoon said at 8:56 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I wasn’t talking about blame. i was talking about the folks who claim that Kelly shouldn’t suggest that there was a lack of execution .

  282. 282 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:03 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Kelly has a lot of people who don’t like him…. A lot have people have been praying for him to fail so they can rip into him. That’s where at least half the criticism is coming from.

  283. 283 Avery Greene said at 11:09 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    One of which posts on this board non-stop.

  284. 284 A_T_G said at 8:32 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    You mean a triple reverse?! That just might be crazy enough to work.

  285. 285 Bert's Bells said at 6:30 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    He means the Triple Lindy.

  286. 286 eagleyankfan said at 8:12 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    They can’t master the offense now and you want them to do something different than what they’ve been working on since OTA’s?
    McManus is a writer for a reason.

  287. 287 Tumtum said at 10:28 AM on October 11th, 2015:

    What they have been doing in games isn’t working. I’m not saying hange the play book, I’m saying change presentation.

    For instance: come out want to sling it all over the place. Run some draw plays behind that. Then hammer it with the run.

    Not saying that is what they have to do. The formula of run run pass punt in 3 seconds isn’t working. Change that.

  288. 288 Tumtum said at 2:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:

    Well at the end of the first half of the game here… I think they did it. Passing to set up the run. Slowing it down. Lots of yards. Take two picks away it could be a blow out. Doesn’t say anything about the team going forward, but it gave a 10-7 lead at halftime.

    I like it.

  289. 289 eagleyankfan said at 9:37 PM on October 11th, 2015:

    Let’s not get excited about beating a team that might actually be the worst in the NFL…

  290. 290 A_T_G said at 8:43 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    That discount double check commercial with the refs pretending like they are debating the play is almost too close to how things feel watching the games sometimes.

  291. 291 JoeBlow said at 9:22 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I really hope we find a way to add Max Tuerk in the Spring

  292. 292 D3FB said at 6:48 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    He’s literally my favoritest.

  293. 293 JoeBlow said at 11:43 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    he went down with a sprained knee last night, only got to watch about quarter of him playing. You think he has a chance to be a tackle in the NFL? I saw an article from someone from a California paper suggesting he could do it, hell he’s played each position on the o-line at usc.

  294. 294 D3FB said at 6:56 AM on October 10th, 2015:

    I’m way behind on film work. He’s got Kelce’s ability to pull. He’s got a nasty streak. He needs to put on about 15lbs but he’s playable year one. As far as him at T, I need to go back to his sophomore tape but I remember him flashing when watching Marcus Martin a couple years ago. I’d feeel confident he can probably at least play RT and all 3 interior positions but until I really get into extensive film work in the spring I won’t be positive about his ability to play LT.

    It’s a really good draft for OL and we should be able to rebuild ours pretty quickly.

  295. 295 BlindChow said at 9:44 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Words Phil Simms can’t pronounce correctly:

    1. “Hasselbeck”
    2. “him”

  296. 296 JoeBlow said at 9:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    this is a really ugly football game, and Phil Simms babbling and stuttering isn’t helping

  297. 297 Mitchell said at 9:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    At this point I kinda wish we could have used a 3rd on Jaelen Strong instead of Huff. 🙁

  298. 298 A_T_G said at 9:57 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I don’t know. Huff has plenty of room to improve and grow. Strong’s ypa and touchdown rate are only going downhill.

  299. 299 Mitchell said at 10:00 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Strong was another one of my man crushes pre-draft. His upside is, he can catch.

  300. 300 A_T_G said at 10:08 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I remember. But really, how important is catching ability?

  301. 301 Mitchell said at 10:09 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Lol, apparently its pretty important because I’ve noticed that when our receivers aren’t catching balls and we have a hard time winning.

  302. 302 anon said at 10:26 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    not sure if he’s the smartest knife in the knifeblock

  303. 303 Mitchell said at 10:33 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He can get open and he can catch.

  304. 304 BlindChow said at 10:04 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Seriously, he hasn’t seen the field until just now for a reason…

  305. 305 Mitchell said at 10:06 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Huff hasn’t hardly seen the field either and it’s his second season…..

  306. 306 Mitchell said at 10:32 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    2 tds tonight now!

  307. 307 JoeBlow said at 10:34 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    that one was a total blown coverage….not saying anyone on our team would have completed the catch much less our qb made the throw

  308. 308 BlindChow said at 10:55 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Seriously, get a grip, even Huff could have caught the lay-up without anyone within 5 yards of him.

  309. 309 Mitchell said at 10:57 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Lol, touchy touchy. Take a chill pill bud. Sorry he was my man-crush, is playing well and you for some reason don’t like him.

  310. 310 BlindChow said at 11:01 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    lol what?

  311. 311 Mitchell said at 11:08 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    You bet I am!

  312. 312 BlindChow said at 11:16 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Fair enough…

  313. 313 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:08 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Aren’t they from two different drafts?

  314. 314 Mitchell said at 10:10 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Yeh, its just hypothetical. Wishful thinking.

  315. 315 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:14 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I just don’t have much an issue with Huff yet this year. I think he’s been productive when given an opportunity. I also think he may be the one skill player without a drop.

    He obviously needs to do more the remainder of the year

  316. 316 Mitchell said at 10:16 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I agree. I’m not necessarily down on Huff yet. I just wish he would get on the field, make catches and shake and bake some guys.

  317. 317 JoeBlow said at 10:18 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    has he been able to return a kick yet this year?

  318. 318 Mitchell said at 10:19 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I don’t think so. That would be nice to see as well. He needs touches.

  319. 319 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:39 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I think everything has been a Touchback

  320. 320 GEAGLE said at 9:06 AM on October 9th, 2015:


  321. 321 A_T_G said at 10:36 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    See? Second catch and his ypc is halved. How long before his touchdown rate drops to every other catch? One disappointment after another.

  322. 322 BlindChow said at 11:44 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Ugh, the Texans would have won if they had only drafted Jaelen Strong instead of Josh Huff.

    *puts finger to ear*

    What? They drafted who?

  323. 323 Mitchell said at 7:24 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Lol. I love the bitterness.

  324. 324 eagleyankfan said at 8:13 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I know it’s mostly kidding. I never liked the Huff pick. He’s never done anything to change my mind.

  325. 325 anon said at 10:29 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    think this is what our offense is going to have to look like this year.

  326. 326 Avery Greene said at 10:31 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    I feel we know our roles here…

  327. 327 Avery Greene said at 11:10 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Side note:

    Good games from our teams tonight. Sixers win on a last second shot, and the Flyers took the EC Champs to overtime on their ice.

  328. 328 Anders said at 3:24 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Most important for the Flyers is that they looked good doing it.

  329. 329 Nailed It! said at 9:54 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    And that 3 on 3 overtime? Holy moly I couldn’t breath. I know its kinda stupid but it is mayhem and I love it.

  330. 330 EaglesFANqq said at 10:21 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    yeah that was good stuff.

  331. 331 BlindChow said at 11:24 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    At least we didn’t waste a #1 pick on Jadeveon Clowney…

  332. 332 anon said at 11:26 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Clowney is pretty good, considering the rehab situation. Who else would you have gotten?

  333. 333 BlindChow said at 11:31 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    He’s been a non-factor ever since he was drafted.

    I don’t know, I’ve seen people say J.J. Watt is the best player in football. Maybe, but if you can’t stop the offensive juggernaut that is the Matt Hasselbeck-led Colts, what good does that do you?

  334. 334 BlindChow said at 11:56 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    This actually makes me hope we don’t break the bank for Fletcher Cox. Sure, he’s great, but we’re 1-3, he’s not a game-changer.

  335. 335 JoeBlow said at 12:18 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I was really anti-Clowney before that draft, but i thought he played pretty well tonight, especially in the one area i didn’t like him in which is run defense

  336. 336 anon said at 2:39 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    yeah i was surprised that between watt, wilfork, clowney and cushing they couldn’t stop frank gore.

  337. 337 MattE said at 10:56 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Would you have traded Cox + whatever else to get Mariota? I would have in a heartbeat, especially now.

  338. 338 D3FB said at 6:47 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    He tore his meniscus week 1 last year, so he was pretty limited last year and then he had microfracture surgery in December.

    He’s ridiculously talented and was worth the pick. He just hasn’t been healthy yet.

  339. 339 Anders said at 9:02 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    The argument could be that they should have went with a QB instead, but they most likely get the chance next draft

  340. 340 Anders said at 3:23 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Teddy Bridgewater or Mack

  341. 341 peteike said at 11:09 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    seriously, he looks like he gets hurt after every play. Always limping or something its weird. Like his body is too big and strong to handle the athleticism.

  342. 342 anon said at 11:27 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    Hoyer sucks, what a depressing end to that game.

  343. 343 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:38 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    LMAO he just threw it up like he was playing “3 flys up”

  344. 344 GEAGLE said at 10:54 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    It was insane, he should have just walked up to the defender and hand him the ball, The defender will never get an easier INT in his career

  345. 345 eagleyankfan said at 8:04 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Didn’t he enter the game in the 2nd quarter and throw for over 300 yards?

  346. 346 GEAGLE said at 8:41 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    As horrible of aN INT as we will ever see

  347. 347 Jarrod said at 8:52 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    In that situation…
    Rule 1) Don’t throw an INT
    Rule 2) Don’t throw an INT
    Rule 3) Don’t throw an INT

  348. 348 peteike said at 11:08 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    you could tell he really thought that was his last play or chance to get the first, amateur. He could have also run for it no problem.

  349. 349 CrackSammich said at 11:41 PM on October 8th, 2015:

    This sport is becoming unwatchable with all the penalties.
    -There were 129 plays with 20 penalties. That’s a penalty on 15% of the plays.
    -Colts only had 323 yards. They had another 125 in penalty yards.

    I’d love to do a stat of how many plays per commercial, but I’d probably blow my brains out. So glad hockey is bacl.

  350. 350 P_P_K said at 10:11 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    After every significant play, my buddies and I ask “Are there flags?”

  351. 351 James said at 11:07 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    This is the least amount of football I’ve watched since 02. I think you are right, the game feels different with all the penalties, exhausting amount of commercials(this is a big proponent), and bad announcing.

  352. 352 GEAGLE said at 11:16 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Teams ravaged by injuries… Friggin 40yr old Hasslesnatch vs obriens game of musical QB’s as a nationally televised game…’yuck..
    To make matters worse, JJ watt didn’t even show up. He got completely dominated by a double team..
    Colts defense is a joke, they should be ashamed of the td’s they gave up to Jalen strong

  353. 353 peteike said at 11:19 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    That D stinks and that was supposed to be their strong suit. They must have a bad coord because teams just double up on Watt and nobody else can make a play….anywhere.

  354. 354 GEAGLE said at 11:33 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Romeo crennell has a pedigree, but certainly isn’t doing a good job right now.. That franchise is a mess, Obriens QB flip flopping is the worst thing he could do.. He has done a horrible job and I liked the guy, but they aren’t progressing..

  355. 355 anon said at 11:56 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    the pick at the end of the game really brought everything full circle.

  356. 356 peteike said at 1:57 PM on October 9th, 2015:

    thats right its Crennell, I shouldve remembered per hard knocks. Ya, bad in so many places

  357. 357 JoeBlow said at 12:20 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    soooooo right now in Houston…..Jayson Braddock is reporting that a mutiny has begun against Bill O’ Brien in the locker room…players complaining that the coaches treat them like they are in a “college enviroment”

  358. 358 GEAGLE said at 8:38 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I wrote about this before the game, IMO Obriens flip flopping of the QBs has been extremely amauterish performance. IMO what Obrien has done has been the worse coaching job in the NFL, even worse than Phylbin..
    Keep This musical chairs at QB going and OBrien will be interviewing to be our QB coach 😉

  359. 359 EaglesFANqq said at 10:20 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Chip Kelly makes the team wear Eagles sweat suits to the game and puts them on a yellow school bus to go from the practice facility to the linc.

  360. 360 Insomniac said at 12:43 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Can we somehow trade Jordan Matthews for Deandre Hopkins?

  361. 361 anon said at 2:58 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    could have had him instead of smith #culture

  362. 362 sonofdman said at 10:32 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Only if we traded our 2014 first round pick to get back into 2013’s first round. Hopkins was drafted in 2013. Smith was drafted in 2014.

  363. 363 Insomniac said at 9:05 PM on October 9th, 2015:

    Hopkins was in the 2013 draft

  364. 364 GEAGLE said at 8:36 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    You can have some modicum of patience and allow the game to slow down for Nelson….. Hopkins you see today isn’t the same hopkins we saw in his first 4 games as a Rook…..
    But I feel you, I been raving about Hopkins going into this season.. Stylisticalky they have differences, but I really hope to see Agholar Develope into a hopkins caliber reciever

  365. 365 EaglesFANqq said at 10:19 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    We could trade our entire team for Deandre Hopkins….wait the Texans wouldn’t accept that trade.

  366. 366 GEAGLE said at 9:05 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Still don’t know if it’s true that Huff is in the dog house because he can’t shut his mouth when the media is trying to get him to run his mouth..
    But it’s time to get Josh Huff going, we need a spark.
    I’d like to see us Lineup in a 2back set with Sproles and Huff as the RBs, send Sproles in motion having him lineup in the slot to the Left side while Huff remains at RB.. Send Sproles on a drag route or some decoy Route that will take defendwrs away from the left side of the field, fake the Reverse to Agholar, while Huff runs a wheel route down the left sideline that Sproles helped clear out for him, hopefully a LB or Safety will be on huff since he was lined up in the backfield instead of a corner… Simple pitch n catch even for Braindead huff, hopefully Bradford gets it to him in stride and we are off to the races…
    I get the feeling that the game is close to slowing down for Agholar and we will soon start to see him get it going, but we really need to start getting something out of Huff…. Obviously we would have liked to see a big year two leap out of the kid, but that hasn’t happened yet, but that doesn’t neccessarily mean that he won’t get it going…. think we,have to make an effort to dail up some plays giving him a chance at a Homerun in hopes that it will get him going and he can start showing the year 2 improvement we need to see.

  367. 367 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:11 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I just hope the game is slowing down for Bradford. I think Ags would be fine with more consistent QB play

  368. 368 GEAGLE said at 9:37 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Should be.., with every game that passes he should start to think less and less about the injuries and he should be building the confidence to consistently set his feet and throw with the perfect mechanics while under fire, and we have see that when he sets his feet and his mechanics are on point he can make every throw while being extremely accurate..
    He should be getting more comfortable as he gets used to the speed of the game, and his command of the offense should also be improving..

    He even built some confidence last week in picking up first downs with his legs and properly sliding, and also escaping from pass rushers and throw it on the run… This was a HUGE sign to see, and hopefully we can build on if this week and ask Bradford to run with it on a few Option plays if the defense isn’t respecting him as a threat to run. All he has to do is burn the defense by running for two first downs and they will have to respect the threat which should help open things up a bit for our RBs..
    With a struggling OL, after what we saw last week, I’d like to see us get him out of the pocket, roll him out and throw it on the run more..
    Also like to esfablish a run game out of heavy max protection packages that way we can eventually catch them slipping when we Dail up play action bombs out of what looks like a heavy power run formation
    SAMMY BOY showed a lot of anticipation last week and fit balls into some really tight Windows which should be good for his confidence. hopefully we continue to look deep, push our routes down field, some post routes, Dig routes..
    Most imptortant is hopefully coming out the gates at home ready to get off to a good start and score on our first two drives.. If our OL allows Sam and our RB to have some early success instead of having to get it going in the 2nd half after being shut down in the first half.., be HUGE if the OL allows the offense to get in a rythem early.. iF we can run the ball in the first half like we did against the Jets superior defense, I would like SAMs chances at having his break out game against this shaky skins defense

  369. 369 James said at 11:03 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    We need huge OL improvement before I start hoping the receivers/runners get going. But will OL get better, not feeling confident….

  370. 370 GEAGLE said at 11:12 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    OL has done a decent job of pass blocking, it’s the run blocking that’s been poor, which to me screams of a lack of continuity:.. Every OL to ever play prefers to run block where they get to attack the defenders, usually you see lines like Dallas that are great run blockers but not as great in pass protection, the fact that our run blocking is so screwed up, yet our pass protection has actually held up at times, I don’t see how this can be anything but an execution problem resulting from not having gelled into a cohesive unit yet.. It makes no sense to be able to pass block but be so inept at run blocking… If anything it’s usually the other way around
    In praying we see the run blocking get it going right from tne staff like we did against the Jets defense…

    How different is out OL personnel going into this game compared to the personell that started the jets game? Can’t keep track of all the injuries

  371. 371 James said at 11:39 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    ok I get the continuity thing, but when there are plays that the guards outright dont block the guys in front of him, I think its more mental and signs of being a bad player than blaming it on continuity.

  372. 372 GEAGLE said at 11:06 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I hope chip and Martnowitz are at least trying to make an enticing offer to the Bears for Kyle Long. I assume Chicago has no desire to dump him but for a team that will have to blow it up and rebuild maybe we can get them to
    Consider it with a enticing package of picks, so they would be ridding themselves of a player they have to commit big money to soon, and in return get quality draft picks that they can rebuild with that come with cheaper rookie contracts for the next 4-5 years..
    Not for nothing, but when we get to next years draft everyone will want an OL in round 1, so is it really the end of the world to give up a 1st round pick so we can get our OL help NOW instead of having to wait til the offseason to draft OL help?.. A 1st round pick won’t be enough, throw in a 3rd in 2017, throw in Josh Huff if you have to… Kyle would be HUGE for us, young stud who can play guard and RT, our coach knows well, and we eliminate the risk of drafting a guy that always can end up being a bust…
    Bears already have shown that they are open for business.. Make them an offer the can’t refuse, just spread it out over the next two drafts

    Hopefully Dallas doesn’t pry Forte or Alshon away from Chicago… I’d rather not have to deal with those two in our division

  373. 373 James said at 11:11 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    without a second round pick it doesnt give us any flexibility to move around in the draft. At least if we keep our 1st we could trade down and pick up another pick.

  374. 374 GEAGLE said at 11:27 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    I understand that, but say we don’t have a 1st and 2nd this year, we have a couple extra picks from rounds 3-5 that we can package to move back into round 2 if a player we love and have highly rated falls, or we can trade back in rounds 3 and 4 and end up picking like 6 times in those 3 rounds, hopefully at least 3 of those 6 can end up being quality young additions..
    Long to me is one of the very best young lineman in the game,, can’t put him ahead of GB’a Josh Sitton yet but Long has probably been an even better Guard, than Lane has been a RT and I’m still thrilled with Lane but it speaks to how well Kyle has done.. Kid is still young, has plenty of years left in the tank, cHip knows him well, he operated in Oregons tempo attack, can really solve a Guard problem now and turn it into a strength, while also being our RT of the
    Future when Lane moves to the left side… IMO definitely worth 3 picks in the next two years.. 1,3 and 5 maybe…. It’s not like we are going to want to add 10 new players to next years roster, we can prioritize quality over quantity because we have some really nice depth at a few positions and just need to strengthen a few starting spots on the Line.. Trade for Long, and extend him and Lane together early in year 5

  375. 375 James said at 11:45 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Long would be sweet for sure. Just seems weird to do it in this draft because of the Bradford trade. But if acquiring him makes the line legit and gets everything going then Im all for it.

  376. 376 EaglesFANqq said at 11:20 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Cowboys have Dez Bryant. THey can’t afford Alshon.

  377. 377 GEAGLE said at 11:35 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Hoping the Eagles sign that Golaith fellow your dumb ass was blabbing about before.. Poof back to disappearing from my screen you go…

  378. 378 MattE said at 11:37 AM on October 9th, 2015:


  379. 379 EaglesFANqq said at 1:44 PM on October 9th, 2015:


  380. 380 MattE said at 11:37 AM on October 9th, 2015:

    Forte is a real possibility because he is free agent next year, which i think drops the “realistic asking price.” He is at $9.2mill (cap), not sure how it all would fall into place regarding money with Romo eventually coming back….

  381. 381 GEAGLE said at 1:10 PM on October 9th, 2015:

    We shoud sigń forte!!! Moewr RBs!!!!!!!