Busy Day
Posted: November 11th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 137 Comments »Lots of little things going on today. The biggest news is that Malcolm Jenkins has a concussion. He sat out today and is going through the concussion protocol. At his PC today, Chip Kelly didn’t seem to think this was a big deal. We used to hear about minor concussions. Maybe this falls into that category.
If Jenkins does miss the game, that would be hard on the defense. There is no natural replacement for him. Chris Maragos is the #3 Safety, but he’s not a guy you really want on the field for 70 snaps. Eric Rowe would be interesting as a replacement, but I don’t know if he’s trained enough at SS to start there and play the whole game. Jerome Couplin is banged up right now so he’s probably not a candidate.
Let’s hope Jenkins is okay.
Backup G/C Josh Andrews suffered a concussion today at practice. He is the only backup C on the roster so the Eagles had to make a move. They cut LB Brad Jones and re-signed Julian Vandervelde.
Nana nana nana nana… pic.twitter.com/toCIoCrNaQ
— Julian Vandervelde (@BatMandervelde) November 11, 2015
You have to love this guy. After the news about Jordan Hicks having the torn pec, Julian had this to say.
I did play LB in highschool, in case that makes a difference @Eagles. Just putting that out there.
— Julian Vandervelde (@BatMandervelde) November 10, 2015
Classic. Obviously Vandy knows the offense so he can play if needed. I’m sure he’s a little rusty, but he’s only here to be a backup.
Sticking with the OL talk.
In short run, Jason Peters' back is getting better, no surgery is contemplated, a source said. In long run, his condition is degenerative.
— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) November 12, 2015
That’s not great news. Peters said if it is up to him, he’d play this week. He did say that the next couple of days would help make the final determination on his status for this week.
What about the long term? Maybe Peters will move to OG in the offseason. That might mean less stress on his back. We’ll talk more about that in a couple of months.
The good news here is that the Eagles don’t have to feel pressured to play Peters. The line had a good game on Sunday night and they can handle things for another game if needed.
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DeMeco Ryans said he’s optimistic that he’ll play on Sunday. With Jordan Hicks out, it would be good to have a rotation of Mychal Kendricks, Kiko Alonso and Ryans. Najee Goode can help as needed.
The run defense has missed Ryans the last couple of weeks.
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Bryan Broaddus ran the draft for the Eagles back in 1998 and did a great job.
1 – Tra Thomas
3 – Jeremiah Trotter
3 – Allen Rossum
4 – Brandon Whiting
4 – Clarence Love
5 – Ike Reese
Broaddus bounced around the league after that and is now writing pieces for Cowboys.com. Here are some nuggets from the Eagles game.
- I didn’t believe that I oversold it during the week, but I really felt good about the potential production from Greg Hardy and Randy Gregory when paired on that right side. In the preseason it was a good combination — even against Tyron Smith and Ronald Leary — but in two series early in this game, it really amounted to the Eagles handling it without issue. That caused Rod Marinelli to have to search in another direction to generate a pass rush. Hardy wasn’t able to get enough penetration inside to allow Gregory to get around the edge without a blocker picking him up. The biggest problem was the execution was never as clean as it needed to be.
- The Eagles had two 4th-and-1 situations in this game and Rolando McClainwas only on the field for one of them. You would like to believe that one of your most physical defensive starters would be in the lineup when an opponent chooses to go for it in those situations, but McClain was only in for the one in overtime. What was disappointing on that particular play was that McClain didn’t step up to take on Ryan Mathews and was easily turned out of the hole, giving him the necessary space to pick up the first down. On the next play, Sam Bradford was able to complete the ball to Jordan Matthews for the game-winning score.
- Not much you can say about the pick-six that Matt Cassel threw, other than it was a nice play by Jordan Hicks. The Cowboys went with an empty formation by trying to sneak Darren McFadden into the slot next to Dez Bryant. The Eagles defended the formation by playing three against two. Hicks lined up inside of McFadden, and at the snap adjusted his positioning to match the route. McFadden did nothing to drive Hicks off the ball, which would have bought himself space on the out route. To make matters worse Cassel appeared to be looking in that direction the entire time. The ball from Cassel was late and too far to the inside, giving Hicks the opportunity to drive on the route. Hicks was in much better position to snatch the ball and head up the sidelines untouched
- Give some credit to Jordan Matthews and the route that he was able to pull off in overtime against Byron Jones. Matthews ran hard inside, getting Jones off balance, then drove hard back to the outside — which put Jones on the ground. J.J. Wilcox was in the middle of the field, but he was in poor position to defend and his angle was such that he was in no position to make a tackle. Matthews ran right by him and into the end zone.
Always interesting to hear things from someone else’s perspective.
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Vandervelde and acho.
Gotta love em.
Really do. Acho is great on Twitter as well, if I remember. When interviewed, he sounds like a smart guy. Vandervelde is just a goofy guy that I would love see succeed.
I wouldn’t be extremely afraid of a “degenerative” condition from a guy in his middle 30’s. Osteoarthritis is degenerative. Diabetes is degenerative. It all depends on how you take care of yourself and when you combine sports science with the limited amount of football Peters has left, his back issue shouldn’t be a big deal in the “long term.” Especially if surgery isn’t even considered. Speaking of injuries to lineman. I haven’t heard another thing about T.J. Clemmings’ stress fracture. I typed it into the Google machine and the only things that popped up were from around draft time. Vikings got great value in the 4th IMO.
I’m not sure what the issue is exactly – if it is degenerative disc disease, well, yeah, its degenerative (and quite bad) in the long run (requiring invasive surgery, maybe multiple times), but not necessarily that bad in the short run as Les’s tweet suggests.
If its a herniated disc – that is also degenerative, but in a much slower, less impactful way. Herniated discs generally can be fairly easily managed for years, usually without surgery. They can be very painful in the short run though.
Hard to say without more info though.
My first thought was arthritis
Actually, Mitchell is right that “degenerative” disc disease sounds much worse than it often is. In fact, some doctors avoid the term because they consider it misleading. Everyone has some spinal degeneration with age. How quickly degeneration occurs varies widely and depends upon many factors, both genetic and life-style related. While Peters condition may shorten his career, it may not. You are quite right that without a lot more information it is impossible to predict Peters prognosis, either short term or long term. I can say one thing with confidence: Peters’ collapse on the field is not surprising. The spine is the largest nerve in the body and the pain from compression/impingement is 10 on a pain scale of 1-10. I have had wide area burns including patches of third degree burns and degenerative spinal disease requiring major surgery. While the burns were extremely painful the pain associated with multiple herniated discs and major spinal compression was worse.
I don’t think teams were concerned about Clemmings’ ability to make it through his rookie year.
Yup! Clemmings was a great value in the 4th.
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_29081364/vikings-rookie-tackle-t-j-clemmings-giving-adrian
I just ran that thru the Philly Inquirer translator: “Clemmings sucked for the first couple of games, but it’s starting to look like Kelly may not have completely wasted a draft pick he arrogantly took despite the fact that the rest of the league had passed on the foot injury. He’ll probably never make it to a second contract due to the degenerative nature of his injury, but for now at least he’s helping the team tread water in the crappy NFC East. The team still needs to pick an OL with their first 10 draft picks next year, or at least sign the top 3 FA linemen.”
LOL @ “he arrogantly took”
Deep Thought of the Day:
What’s more annoying, Negative Philadelphia Fans Complaining or Negative Fans Complaining about Negative Philadelphia Fans….
(new Agey music plays)
Two negatives make a positive. 😉
I honestly want to buy a Vandervelde jersey. I will wear it proudly on sundays for the next 50 years.
But you will have to put it on and take it off a dozen times each Sunday.
Thats ok. I can wear my batman PJs as the base layer.
no Dawkins PJ’s?
You have a point..
Another great post. You’re on a roll.
LOL!!!! Man, you friggin’ KILL me. Definitely have a direct line to my damn funny bone! :)-
Somehow he is becoming one of my all time favorite Eagles players.
At this point, has he been signed by the Eagles more times that any other player? If not Vandervelde, it would be interesting to find out how has that record.
So, when I read…
“… production from Greg Hardy and Randy Gregory when paired on that right side. In the preseason it was a good combination — even against Tyron Smith and Ronald Leary — but in two series early in this game, it really amounted to the Eagles handling it without issue.”
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“Blah blah scum blah blah Lane Johnson > Tyron Smith blah blah we suck.”
…and it makes me feel warm inside.
“Not much you can say about the pick-six that Matt Cassel threw, other than it was a nice play by Jordan Hicks”, then he gives 4 reasons why it was the fault of the Cowboys??
He’s a man of many words.
Long story short…
@ T-Law
You wrote on your “Jordan Hicks out” post:
You referred to it as a possibility in this post here. Do you have a link with JP saying he’s open to the position change someday? Did you hear that from a source? Or do you assume he will be open for the switch?
Could be pretty relevant as soon as this offseason.
https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/status/662434947714666496
A big part of me would like to see Lane stay at LT for a few more weeks. I know that means that Peters has to adjust or sits, but I just am so worried about Peters. Seems like he gets injured every other week.
Greg Cosell has a nice piece up about the matchup on Sunday. He gives 10 observations about Miami’s offense and defense.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Film-Study-A-Similar-Offense-In-Miami/05525cd2-f4cc-47b8-8277-bb3631cc59c2
I wonder if this game against the Dolphins will end up being a defensive struggle. Seems like we should be pretty familiar with each other. Bill Lazor probably provided a pretty good scouting report.
Bill Lazor hasn’t been here since we had Desean Jackson and Michael Vick/Nick Foles. I’m not saying it’s a whole new offense, but a lot of those people aren’t here anymore.
it’s about as different as Lazor’s offense is to ours. It’s about even. Either way the defenses are used to the tempo and play concepts. We’ve seen our offense struggle until the superior conditioning kicks in. Not sure if that advantage will be there on Sunday. Will be interesting. I think we will win, but I don’t really see a reason for either of these offenses to do particularly well.
I’m not sure that the Dolphins have been relying on tempo as much this year, especially their past few games. I also feel that they are using tempo as a tool or gadget, whereas CK is using tempo as a philosophy of how to run practice every single day.
yeah I think you’re right about the tempo and Miami. They are 28th in plays per game. Take into account that they have trailed in the majority of games (more passing to preserve clock=more plays per minutes of possession). Yeah, Lazor likely wasn’t able to have the sway to build a team around tempo as an OC.
I wish we still had him as a QB coach though.
Anyone knows what compensation the iggles will likely get for Boykin? I haven’t followed a lot of Steelers games lately but it doesn’t seem like he is getting much playing time
a 5th rounder… unless he really plays a ton… then its a 4th.
Thanks. so it looks like it’s going to be a 5th .really thought he would start for them given what they have at corner. It appears that Davis and Kelly knew something we fans didn’t. go figure.
Eagles run game appears to be more impactful when they run with Sam under center instead of the shotgun. Why doesn’t chip run more from under center??
They have a higher ypc in the shotgun than under center.
That’s pretty interesting given all the talk going around about the virtues of being under center. I’d be interested to see what the volatility’s like across under center and shotgun. Maybe one has a different risk/reward ratio than the other and should be used in different circumstances. I’d also be interested in seeing how the trends have changed since the run game got cranking over the last couple games.
On a related note, anyone have insight into why we really don’t run out of pistol as a happy compromise?
I wonder about the pistol, too. Whenever Kelly is asked about it, he just says something like, “that’s not what we do.” Sounds like stubbornness to me.
Probably something to think about in the offseason
Personally, I would like to see Chip develop the carbine offense. It would share a lot of traits with the sawed off set.
Perhaps the machete formation to better fit his slashing running backs?
I think the reason the under center talks have died down is due to the lack of success when they did it. The numbers have been listed here a few times. Don’t remember exactly, but they were significant.
BC, what are the ypc from the gun vs under center? I’m having this exact argument with half of the people I know
I can’t remember. D3FB posted them a week ago I think, it probably hasn’t changed much since then…
Explains why his game wasn’t quite right
Yup, Jenkins clearly wasn’t going off the field unless he was on a stretcher. Love the heart. But man with everything going on with CTE players need to be more concerned about these things. Football only lasts so long.
Pretty reckless stuff. Fan of players toughing it out but not through concussions.
geez Malcom is tough, but he is also smart so its surprising he didn’t care about the concussion. maybe he’s just such a badass and know we needed him to win against dallas.
he basically put the team in front of his health.
he could become a legend
Disappointing he would do that. Puts his team mates in a tough position and explains why he may have had a bit of an off game. Not only that he risks making it worse. I hope he isn’t faking his way through the protocol now.
The things about him that make you love him, are what made him do this. I hope there is an investigation and it comes out that the medical staff really didn’t know.
ack…wish he didn’t do that. I really struggle with this sort of stuff. I love the game, I love the players, but I really worry about the price paid for $, glory, and entertainment. If the stakes were higher, toughing out injury for you comrades would be commendable. But everyone needs to take a step back in these situations. It’s a game. What is that to a life.
It’s just tough. It’s a culture where we want players to buy in and treat it like it’s more than a game, more than a business. We want players to have passion and commitment to their team and not just be a collection of jaded mercenaries. So it’s so hard to turn that on it’s head for these instances. Concussion, it’s a game vs your life, nooo. Pulled hamstring: TOUGH IT OUT LOSER! THAT GUY IS MILKING AN INJURY, IT’S A PAIN TOLERANCE THING, NO HEART!
Malcolm Jenkins – DB – Eagles
Eagles FS Malcolm Jenkins (concussion) was back at practice Thursday.
The Philadelphia Inquirer’s Zach Berman reported Jenkins “appeared to be a full participant.” He is now on track to play this weekend. Jenkins suffered a concussion in the second quarter of the win over the Cowboys, but he did not tell the medical staff until after the game. That fact will likely warrant an investigation by the NFLPA.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
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Well looks like Malcolm is already on track to play which is a good thing. I do not like the fact that the NFLPA may investigate.
Not sure how DeMaurice Smith doesn’t get as much bad press as Goodell.
I agree, Smith should get as much flack as Goodell gets.
where was he when the Brady fiasco was going on? Would have loved to hear a reporter ask him his opinion on Hernandez and Hardy…. they are union members after all, can’t have a divided union lol
I understand that the job of the Union is to represent its players, and even murderers and child molestors and the worse scum of the earth is entitled to a lawyer.. The union exists to represent playërs when they get suspended even if they are guilty of the infraction.,
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But because the NFL sheild is getting more pissed on every year that goes by, and domestic abuse, woman abuse and child abuse are such horribke crimes and are becoming way to big of problem in the NFL, and the NFL time and time again have failed miserably when dealing with this topic…
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I understand the role of the players union, but I do wish they would stand up and make a statement that, Big strong Superhuman men beating on woman outweighed by 100’s of Lbs is so disgusting and despicable that if you get in trouble for beating woman n children, THATS where the players union draws the line, and players who get in trouble for domestic violence are on there own from here on out. That is a battle the players union should no longer fight on behalf of the players, have some decency and draw the line at domestic abuse, and announce that Players are on their own from here on out when dealing with Domestic violence, and the union will no longer defend them,and if they want to fight the suspension for their despicable actions,they will have to hire their own lawyer, pay out of their own pocket to try and get The NFL suspension reduced..
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The majority of NFL players do NOT beat woman and are also disgusted by other players who do beat woman, so even if the players union takes this stance, I doubt the majority of the players would be against this and I wouldn’t be surprised if we let the players vote on it, and the large majority voted to backüp the Players union taking a stance on refusing to fight on the behalf of players when it’s a domestic violence issue abusing woman n children…
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Unfortunately this would never happen and the NFL shows no signs of Starting to finally deal with domestic violence in an acceptable matter. It’s been two years and they continue to drop the ball every time they have to deal with domestic violence
If he’s practicing in any capacity, it means he’s cleared the concussion protocol and is good to go.
That I do know Sean, but the investigation is more for why didn’t Jenkins exit the game at all to be checked.
If they can pinpoint the play where he was concussed, then maybe. But I would think if it looked like a routine play, there would be no need for them to initiate the protocol without some sign that he may have been concussed.
Else, they might be running concussion protocols after each play.
I shouldn’t read backwards. I just read NailedIt’s post and it would seem that would fall on the players, not the team.
Doubt it’s a big deal, and doubt Jenkins is the only player who has hid concussions early in the game… if Jenkins didn’t say anything to coaches or trainers, purposely hiding the fact that he got his bell rung, doubt we can be punished because we werent able to diagnose that he had a concussion… Educating the players on the concussion effects is supposed to have eliminated playërs hiding these things from the coaches, but Im sure it still happens often.. They aren’t always easy to recognize which is why we educated all the players in hopes that they would start being responsible and stop hiding these things, but I’m sure it still happens way too much… And the fact that he is Cleared and back in Practice already says it probably wasn’t a devestating concussion which is probably why Jenkins was able to hide it from trainers.. Doctors ARENT perfect, doubt we get into trouble because we failed to diagnose him proper
While he was hiding it from us. The investigation won’t cause us any problems… Only way we can get in trouble is if trainers and coaches Knew he had a concussion and kept it quiet so he could continue to play, and I highly doubt that happened… We are talking about a regime that has been very prudent with most injuries for example, holding Agholar out longer than Nelson would Like just to be sure… Chip seems to not be a scumbag, and he is smart enough to know that risking the rest of a guys season to put him on the field hurt so he can try to get thru the game is not very smart especially when it’s only the halfway point of the season
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Doubt this will be an issue
Oh I agree that I has happened before but my only problem is that the NFLPA makes unnecessary issues out of damn near anything so I would hate any distractions to the team right now.
Right Edelman was pretty clearly concussed in the SB last year.
I guess that FA signing of Brad Jones did not pan out, good luck to ya Brad
Would be great if Jenkins is healthy and could play, but regardless Eagles need to fortify that position again.
The Peters issue sounds ominous, any time degenerative is used is not a good sign especially for a back condition for a very large OT. He is signed through 2018, sliding to OG may help him stay productive/healthy, but nothing is guaranteed unfortunately.
Fantastic stuff from Broaddus, thanks for including that Tommy
Thinking Couplin was ready to step up and replace the special Team contributions of Prosinski seems to have not panned out.. Is Couplins shoulder injury serious or is he back at practice already? He hasn’t even made a fraction of the BIGTIME ST plays we used to get from Prosinski
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That doesn’t mean that Couplin won’t be developed into a good replacement for Proz, but we seem to have made the decision to replace Proz a year too soon, or at least half a year too soon (maybe we see progress now that we are entering the second half of season)
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I have No friggin clue what the vision for Brad Jones was when we decided to bring him in when we had 3 quality starting caliber ILBs, a rookie we just drafted in round3, and Linebackets Acho and Goode who always showed progress…
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I hope Vandervelde and Goode get front office jobs with us when their playing days are over, there should be a minimal organizational learning curve for them.
From the sounds of it Vandervelde is a guy cut out for coaching. Maybe it’s on the high school level, maybe it’s NFL.
if vandy’s paying attention he could make a lot of money writing contracts.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/11/12/9723156/jason-witten-fletcher-cox-man-dog-eagles-cowboys-inside-the-nfl-clip
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Everyone has to check this out, Witten throwing praise at Cox saying “He’s too fucking big in there, 91 is a man dog”
Getting a concussion in the second quarter sure explains how Beasly Torched us the way he did.. Not sure how Jenkins can stop such a quick tiny slot WR while “playing In a fog”.. Makes sense that he was often a step behind, which Beasly made us pay for… Fortunately Billy Found the right balance of allowing his starter to work thru what was becoming a rough game, but also make the adjustment in time to survive the game and come away with the win. EJ Biggers came in and did a solid job putting an end to the Beasly bullshit
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What kind of surprised me is that we didn’t switch Malcolm and Thurmonds role and let Walt match up with Beasly… But we like to leave Walt in a Robber Role, to help out where he sees fit and try to Bait QBs into INts..
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Nice to know EJ can come in, step up and put up a nice fight against slot WRs.. EJ Biggers could be important this week with Dangerous Jarvis Landry in the slot..
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LOVE Maragos as our ST Captain, but I really wish someone would step up and replace Maragos from Nickel package. He is so intent on not letting anyone get behind hiim and give up the big play that he is playing like 30 yards back, which forces us to almost play 10 vs. 11 any time the QB is throwing underneath or running the ball..
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I understand being Patiemt with ROWE who only played 1 year of corner… But ROWE has played much more at Safety and if Maragos is just going to play 30 yards deep And bring NOTHING to our Nickel Package, There is NO REASON why ROWE cant play that role… EJ BIGs has been a pleasant surprise and ROWE hasnt played enough slot corner to be a better option than BIGs at this point, but I see NO REASON why Rowe can’t play the role Maragos is being asked to play. The ONLY thng I can think of is we want him t grow into a stud corner, he has played so little corner, that playing Maragos role would take away from ROWE practicing at CB which he needs to do if he is ever to grow into the corner we drafted him to be…
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Can’t Help wonder who would be the 5th DB in our Nckel package, if Boykin was still here? JaCorey was still Healthy? Bigs? Or Maragos?…. Was ropkie JaCorey really playimg that well to be trusted on the field ahead of Boykin, Bigs or Maragos? is the surprising play of Bigs GOOD ENOUGH to have played nickel ahead of Boykin?
Interesting piece by Spadaro on BGN today. He thinks with the contracts of Carroll and Thurmond ending after the season, the Eagles will move Rowe to S.
That is interesting. I would think they would lock up Thurmond since Jenkins contract is up after next year and Walt is younger and possibly have Rowe as Malcolm’s replacement.
I hope they keep both. Then after next year make a decision about who to keep. Rowe should be ready for whichever spot they want him, but maybe some of the other young guys step up and take either S or CB role.
I absolutely agree I definitely would like them to keep both but if a choice was necessary between the 2 I would lean towards Thurmond just based off age first and the level of play that he is playing the position at in his 1st year. But regardless I would absolutely want to keep both and maybe Jenkins on another contract like the Eagles signed him to initially.
Malcolm Jenkins seems like he has been around forever, but he is still only 27. He turns 28 in December and is a few months younger than Thurmond who turned 28 in August.
We suddenly have a safety tandem that might be having the best year of any other safety tandem, we’d be out of our minds to go back to the safety wasteland. I’d be unhappy
can’t upvote that enough.
I don’t believe that at all… ROWE is a safety who played one year of Corner, they don’t have to MOVE him to Safety, letting him play safety would be much easier for him. if they were going to move him to safety. He would be playing safety RIGHT NOW which is probably easier for him. There is no reason not to play him at safety today if that is our plan since Maxwell, Nolan,and Bigs are all ahead of him on the corner depth chart, Playing well. there is NO REASON for Nolan to waste this yeàr practicing at Corner, if we want him to be a safety next year. Makes no sense…
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Nolan was only a two year deal? I doubt we let Thurmond get away if he continues to stay healthy… Id be shocked if both Nolan and Thurmond aremt here Next year. nolan showed tremendous growth this past pffseason being our hardest worker.. He has had a solid first half of the season and Id bet we see Nolan continue to improve the second half of this season, and knowing how hard he works, can’t wait to see how he looks after another offseason of working his ass off,,.
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I expect Walt and Jenkins to remain our starting safeties next year.. If thurmond can play safety this well, I bet our coaches will be salivating over how much better he can become at safety when he actually gets a year of game experiwnce at safety under his belt and a entire offseqson to train to play safety… We haven’t even seen the best of Walt and Nolan, doubt they are going anywhere any time soon, at least not while ROWE, JaCorey, Denzel, Couplin are all here on cheap rookie contracts for the next 3 years and Maragos is on a cheap ST contract, Bigs is also cheap
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Nolan and walt’s versatility, Charchter, workethic are why they will be here Next year, because once he is ready to replace NoLam as a starting corner, Nolan is fully capable of moving to Nickel for us.. And if they want To move ROWE to safety which I don’t at all belíeve, Walt goes back to being awesome nickel corner…. AFTER YEARS, we FINALLY got the foundation of the secondary RIGHT. I don’t at all belíeve we will piss it away after the season, Contrary, I Think we wilL Continue to BUILD on it, and a lot of that entails continuing to improve at their new positions, and continue to Gel with each other.
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My expectation is we extend Nolan, Jenkins and Walt for 3 more years (after that is when we have to pay ROWE)… My guess is that EJ Biggers will be the casualty that we lose, since he is playing some good ball this year, I expect him to cash in for more than what we can pay him.. We will have 4 veterans making decent money: Jenk,Walt,Nolan.B-Max, and everyone else will be on cheap rookie contracts, or cheap ST contract(Maragos)… 3 years from now, if ROWE, JaCorey, Couplin, Rice all happen to pan out(probably not), our veteran DBs contracts expire and we use that money to extend our young DBs
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I assume Walt,Nolan,and Jenkins all want to stay, and it will cost us some money, but I’d be pretty shocked if we didn’t make it work.. Chip has gone thru a lot of bad DBs until we finally struck Gold and starting to see a quality secondary, I expect to Build on it, not break it down after this year….
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Give Malcolm Jenkins Coopers money since he gets cut, Nolan gets a little raise, Walt gets a raise and we are good to go..
Only thing about Nolan is with the way he is playing this year he is going to earn himself a nice paycheck next year and with the Eagles needing to think about resigning other players I don’t think Nolan will be here next year. I would think the priority would be Walt over Nolan but that is just my opinion. Extending Walt, Malcolm, and Jenkins would put the Eagles in not great position to resign players like Cox. I just hope for the best and hope we can keep everyone.
If Walt stays healthy, I would also assume he is a higher priority than Nolan..
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But I expect us to be able to work it out and keep both even if we have to cut Coops horrible contract, lose a quality player like Ced or Curry I would love to keep and Hate to see us lose.Miles Austn will Probably replaced with another cheap rookie.., ISNT Celeks contract expiring? At some point he will end up having to take a paycut more reflective of a blocking TE than what we were paying him in his prime… If we have 5 DBs on cheap rookie,or ST contracts, I expect to be able to keep our 4 veteran DBs, only losing EJ Biggers, especially since while they will get Raises, we aren’t talking Revis type money
I know Celek, Ryans, Cooper can be cut with no ramifications. Austin, Thornton, and Curry are FAs so they would be off the books. I am sure they can find ways to keep everyone but the only person I am really worried about is when its time to pay Cox because we know he is going to command a monster contract. Like I said I really hope they can keep this core defense together for at the least next year because if Sammy is going to be the QB here next year then I anticipate the offense getting better and if the defense can stay intact then next year could be a special year.
Agreed… if SAM and Thurmond get thru this year healthy, Id be shocked if both weren’t back next year.
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hopefully we can save a few dollars giving Cox some financial security a year early, but it will still cost money, but the ONLY DTs on Cox Elite Level that switch teams are guys with shifty Charechter whos team KNOWS they cant give him a ton of money like Suh or ALbert Haynsworth… Healthy, durable, Dominant, High Charechter 24/25yr olds don’t switch teams because teams know the effect it has on the entire defense, and you can’t do any better than Fletcher Cox…. kid will spend his entire Prime in Philly..
Dallas implosion update: Dez Bryant goes off on a profanity filled rant at a reporter.
Get your popcorn ready
Do you think the reports have a pool for who asks the question that causes the explosion?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2588806-dez-bryant-blows-up-on-media-members-over-alleged-use-of-racial-slurs
Nice
And
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/cowboys/2015/11/12/dez-bryant-blowup-meltdown-reporters-dallas/75650628/
Demarco correctly calling out Dez’s route (hitch) on the Cowboys last drive.
https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/664836811177467904
AG can you post the Witten sound bite talking about Cox.
I think someone posted this earlier, but here:
https://twitter.com/BleedingGreen/status/664840895976636416
Some people like to come with really stupid “nicknames” for players.
This is usually corny as all get out.
But “{Fucking} ManDog” is a pretty boss moniker for Fletcher Cox.
I like Mad Dog, but yeah that would be awesome.
Sex slang, man, dog, and penis slang do not make for a nickname I would want.
but it’s for Cox, so….
I like how badly Murray wanted to and did beat dallas
if it was up to me, I’d take advantage of the average at best Miami edge rushers to sit peters an extra week and give him the best chance to come back healthy and play the rest of the season.
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We Ran the ball down Dallas throat on the road without JP, and Lane talked about how Hardy was getting off the line faster than Lane and how Lane was looking forward to playing in Philly this week so the cadence plays to his favor and he can get out of his stance faster than the defender… With that added advantage this week, against a much worse Miami Run defense than what we faced in Dallas, we should be able to have our best game running the ball while resting JP to give him the best chance to stay on the field the rest of the year once he comes back .
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The friggin Bills ran for like 250 yards against the Dolphins… Now they face an Eagle run game that has been firing on all cylnders the past 4 games. While we can run on them as much as the Bills, the bills running the ball down thete throat DIDNT also come with the Crazy tempo we will force them to play at all game.. I can’t imagine how badly we can wear down the Miami defense with our Tempo and physical RBs that look to hit defendwrs as hard as they hit us if we are having half the success running the ball that the Bills had,.. This has the Potential to be the most we will have worn down a defense since chip came to philly, and we can achieve that while resting JP for another game..
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Can’t Imagine what the Bills run game would have done to Miami if the Bills played at our tempo the entire game.. They almost ran for 300 without wearing the, down with our Tempo.. Had they also added tempo to tbeir attack, we may have seen them run for like 400yards that Looked like a college game..
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Suh is a front Runner, like we saw in the Blizzard in PHily. The 116 million dollars seem to be weighing down Suh’s pockets and making him lazy and uninspired for The majority of this season… You make him play at our Tempo and the Fatigue will make Suh mail it in again, get Lazy, make more mental mistakes, maybe get frustrated and commit dumb personal fouls.. A Front Runner like Suh who are at the bottom of the league in run defense,after getting Embarressed by both Bills RB last week, if we are Gashing them again this week, the “hear we go again” demoralization sinking in, that front Runner will quit, especially Whem we force him to lean over,cough up a lung and force him to fake a bunch of injuries just to try and make him catch his breath..
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I’m telling you, if their run defense is getting embarressed again, and he is sucking wind from ourTempo,he will put his hand up and check out of the game, or he will get really frustrated, lose his mind and get himself kicked out of the game..
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our RBs can have a monster week and carry us To this weeks win… You KNOW Demarco and Ryan Mathews are aware and talking about the fact that both of the Bills RBs gained 110 yards and a TD against this mutt of a defense.
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At some point GMs will have to learn to stop giving 100mil to guys who lack Charechter and get Lazy once they,cash such a big check that it weighs their pockets down
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Tempo, another week of continuity for our Interior OL, another week for Dennis and Lane to get comfortable in their new roles, our RBs licking their chops at what they are seeing on film from the Dolphins defense this past week,Im Hoping we see one of the most dominant rushing performancea of the chip era, and the most we have ever seeman opposing defense wear down… Assuming, we finally turn the corner and are done taking 1 step forwards, followed by 1 step backwards…. Gotta get above 500 football, and never look back this season
I agree I’m giving the points.
Re: Did Someone Yell “MAD DOG”?
The first documented use of “Mad Dog” as a nick name belongs to a notorious NYC mob hit-man from the ’20s-’30s named Vincent Coll.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Dog_Coll
And, in his first movie roll, the late Richard Widmark portrayed what fairly remains the most chilling psychopath on screen . . . hitman Tommy Udo in “Kiss of Death.”
Udo was, some movie buffs have argued, based on Vincent “Mad Dog” Coll.
The Udo character is best remembered for pushing a wheelchair-bound old lady down a long flight of stairs — and an unforgettable laugh.
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Here’s a look at Udo. And the wheelchair scene:
https://hardboiledgirl.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/43d0617af2f483dfb776b6badeae3992c7ad8af5_top-10-psychos-tommy-udo-kiss-of-death.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_WEvWcVoFw
Strong research!
so is Witten’s the first documented case of “MAN DOG”?
that would be cool see…..
is this one of those, how you say?, trap game?
Possibly. I don’t know if we’re good enough to be stuck in a “trap game”, but I get what you’re saying.
yeah we might not be but fans seem to think we will kill them fins, same things happens after every win….
To the fans I think yes 1000x. To the team, no way. They haven’t put it on anyone. They know better.
Nelson Agholor – WR – Eagles
Eagles coach Chip Kelly won’t commit to Nelson Agholor being active for Week 10.
Agholor has been practicing in full for two weeks, but Kelly evidently isn’t sure if he’s ready to contribute. Agholor can be on waiver wires across the board in re-draft leagues.
Source: Eagles on Twitter
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Is there something going on with Nelson that Chip isn’t revealing? Just don’t understand how the guy can miss so many games, practice in full for 2 weeks but yet the coach wont commit to him playing.
Something isn’t right there.
I agree MM, I really hope it isn’t a lingering knee problem.
I wonder if it’s fair to question at this point whether his extended absence is completely injury related.
High ankle sprains can be an annoying Bitch,,.,
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Chip says AGHOLAR is the type who Always says that he can play, and that its an admirable quality but that we need to be smart with him… Basically, just being Prudent to try and avoid bringing him back a little too soon and see him suffer a setback that costs him another month…. High ankle sprains can be horrible injuries that linger… Whenever he decides to come back and take the field, I want to see him stay on the field, so I don’t mind being prudent
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I hear ya brother, I just found it odd that you let that guy practice in full for 2 weeks but wont commit to him. I would think you can hurt the ankle practicing in full the same way you could in a game so why hold him back from playing when he has no restrictions in practice. I just want this team in full for this stretch run because all bodies are needed for this.
Yeah, that’s the weird thing. Either he’s good to go or he needs to rest. This is an odd half measure.
Remember that Kelly really likes Billicheat.
I don’t believe ‘full practice’ includes guys in different uniforms trying to hit and at least temporarily cripple Nelson.
What does that matter?. You don’t have to have guys hitting you to injure an ankle.
Early in the season when offense and some new players were struggling mightily and fans and media lost their minds and were trashing chip and the players fixating on this player looking better than that player, complaining about scheme not working and needing to make changes. Asking chip if he has enough talent basically trying to get him to trash his players, Chip understood that his offense was so new, that he would have to invest some ugly games early on, łet atruggling players play thru it, because it’s the only way they would ever grow into this new offense and allow the new players to get comfortable so we can see their full ability… For example, Chip isn’t dumb, he clearly saw Murray struggle early on in this new offense, and different way of running the ball than what he did in Dallas. fans wanted to bench him, fans wanted to scrap the offense and let him run differemt plays. But Chip was smart enough to Know that if he didn’t keep Murray in the game, if we didn’t allow him to work thru his struggles, if we changed the plays, we would NEVER get to this point WHERE we are seeing Murray start to figure out how to run in this offense, and he starting to run like a Savage, getting loose and punishing defenders… so early in the year, chip needed to stay patiemt, bite his Lip, take the shit from the dumb media, and allow players to struggle, and fight there way thru it so they could eventually get comfortable and figure out how to implement their talents within the confines of chips offense. Those early struggles were an investment that allowed us to grow into a team with 4 games in a row of rushing for 150 yards, and we are far from done, there is a lot of ceiling left for this group to grow into
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but while we had to invest some early season struggles to grow into the offense that hopefully has started to click. he had to give guys snaps even tho they weren’t playng well and it was Obvipus for everyone to see, Now that this offense is starting to look better, Murray and SAM are starting to improve each week, and we enter the second half of the season, I Love how chip is starting to play his best players the most…Recievers not playing well enough? No better way to solve that problem than to Line up in formations that only require 1 WR, which we are starting to see more of… Yes Guys still need to continue to grow in this offense, but it’s November so we can’t continue to invest snaps in guys who ARENT producing, so I think we will now use SPROLES and Ertz at WR as much as we have to until WRs step up and prove that they will help us if we give them snaps
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The two TE sets have served us really well this past month., and against Dallas we saw: 2TEs (Ertz functions as a quasi Wr) 1RB in the backfield, Sproles lined up at one WR spot, Jordan as the 1 REAL WR… I don’t remember the exact numbers, but I know that SAM was very effective and efficient this past week on plays were Sproles was in the a lot, and a RB was in the backfield, with Two TEs and a 1WR… Put up some real nice numbers out of that Personel grouping..
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the Two TE sets seem to also have served us well in the run game… With Ertz finally starting to get it going in the passing game after the slow start off of preseason surgery, Jordan getting it going, and all the attemtion Sproles gets from defenses In the passing game it should help us compensate for the poor WR production, and put more pressure on guys like AGHOLAR and Huff if they want to keep getting snaps… SPROLES and ERTZ are so damn important because they have to compensate for lack of WR productipn…. So If we can just get AGHOLAR, Coop, knucklehead Huff, just get 1 more WR going, should be a big Boost for the Passing game, and since Agholar has the most Talemt, Hefully he will be the WR who gets it going
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If AGHOLAR gets it going now that SAM is starting to look sharp.. it would basically allow us to have 3 talemted pass catchers with size (Agholar, Jordan and Ertz), 1 RB in the backfield, and SPROLES/Celek alternating as the 11th man depending on what defense is throwing at us…… With Austin, Coop and a Huff needing to start producing with opportunities gven or watch their snaps decline considerably…
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funny How right now, Huff is basically “Baby Cooper”, Both WRs biggest contributions to this offense come in the blocking game lol… Huff pisses me off, but he needs props for his blocking down field helping Jordan score that walk off TD, so at least while Huff struggles in the passing game, he isn’t sulking and short changing us on the blocking..
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If The switch can go on for AGHOLAR or Huff, this Offense should really start to soar..if we were fortunate enough to see both kids get it going, this offense would become Scary.. I write this every week. Yet here I am again.. HOPEFULLY Chip can get creative and help the knucklehead get it going. if the kid is struggling to catch the ball, put the ball in His hands on reverse, or a Jet Sweep, hopefully he makes a big play early in the game, gets his confidemce up and then we can throw to him and hopefully he can step up and catch the ball so he can start making some plays… Tôugh, physical, Explosve athlete with RB experiemce, so put a damn package of plays like you see Jarvis Landry or Percy Harvin run, jet sweeps, reverse, swing pass and wheel routes while coming out of the backfield.. Hand offs, throw to him out of the backfield, put the ball in his hands early, hopefully he has some success and then he can settle down, get comfortable and start producing when we throw to him… It’s half way thru the season and the only play he made was when two dumb saint defenders ran into each other Amd there was no one left to tackle Huff… Whatever we tried with him isn’t working, friggin screen passes bounce off his Facemask… So switch it up, find easier ways to get the ball in his hands, and try to build his confidence backüp… Give him a percy Harvin package of jet sweeps, Reverse, Line up at RB and run a wheel route, WHATEVER, just get the kid going! I expect AGHOLAR to start producing once he gets back on the field, if we can also jumpstart huff, this offense can be POTENT..
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Tired of having to hope Coop catches a Jump ball, or needing old man Miles to make some circus catvh on 3rd down, and then drop an easy pass the following play…. GET CREATIVE if we HAVE TO, just get the Young WRs going!!!!
So if I’m reading this correctly; you’re calling for an 11-5 finish?
I’m not calling anything.. No point trying to figure out WHAT will happen TIL we see some consistency and an Identity develope..
15-5
In the press conference today, Chip referred to Agolor as Nelly. I think we should fully embrace this nickname, due in no small part to the word play it will open up with regards to the rapper with the same name.
Greg Hardy also hates Nelly.
I’ll leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPQ_M3yJTA
Is it a sign?!!
When you go to church after work for a prayer and then had to dial 911 because you got locked in?!
Super Bowlzzzz
Or zombies
it is, but you don’t really want to know what it means
Watkins had Revis beat. Not sure why he even jumped. I think he could have ran under that pass and kept going
Watching Bills vs Jets makes me think of Xmas.
The Jags color rush uniforms are horrible
Made me think of making these as a kid.
mccoy looks good, quicker than last year
Not gonna lie. Missing shady.
If Mathews didn’t drop the ball like half the time then he would be so much more better than Shady. I for one like seeing someonegoing all the way to the endzone since Djax was kicked out.
DJax did not go to the end zone often enough.
He took it all the way to the house when he did though. Something that I feel only Mathews and maybe even Sproles can do right now.