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Posted: November 10th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 212 Comments »Sunday night was a big win for the Eagles. What does it mean? Can we start believing in this team?
And what about Sam Bradford. He just had his best game as an Eagle. Has he turned things around?
One game is one game, good or bad. We don’t know anything for sure.
It would be great to know that Sunday night was a turning point for the team or Bradford, but only time will tell if that’s the case. We want to know these things now, but Chip Kelly pointed out in his PC on Monday that you have to wait until you can look back to really judge things like that.
He gave the example that last year’s Thanksgiving Day win over Dallas put the team at 9-3. Some saw that dominant performance as a signature win. It was supposed to launch the Eagles toward the #1 seed in the NFC and possibly the Super Bowl. Instead, the Eagles went 1-3 and missed the playoffs.
Kelly is right to focus week-to-week. That’s what good teams do. That’s how you play consistent football. I think part of his mentality comes from the fact he was a college coach. Guys with extensive NFL backgrounds might feel a bit differently. Kelly came from a world where one loss could ruin an entire season. You couldn’t pick and choose which games to get up for.
The Eagles need to build off the Dallas win. They need to get above .5o0 and put together a winning streak. This team can still make postseason noise, but only if they keep winning and earn a playoff spot.
We’ll look back for signature wins or turning points or whatever you want when January or February rolls around. Until then, just focus on the game at hand. Time will provide context for everything.
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We need to see 10 to 12 games of Sam Bradford before we’ll start to have an idea of what he is.
Bradford has improved over the course of the season, but he still has yet to play so well that you think “YES! That’s the guy we want to be our QB long term.” We haven’t come close to seeing that guy.
We may never see that guy.
The Eagles play winnable games over the next 3 weeks. They won’t be facing juggernaut defenses. Bradford needs to play well and get this offense really clicking.
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Need your daily dose of snark? Jimmy Bama wrote about Bradford. As Jimmy points out, there probably won’t be great options in the offseason so it is very possible Bradford could return.
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One defender who played well vs Dallas is Ced Thornton. That was his best game of the year. He was credited with 3 tackles and 1 TFL, but was in on several other plays. Thornton was a bit slow to come back from his injury, but he looked good on Sunday. If he can play at that level the rest of the year, the defense could be really tough. Bennie Logan and Fletcher Cox are having outstanding years.
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@Eagles defense struggled vs Dallas "Empty" formations. Allowed 10 comp, 127 yards, 3 TD to Cassel.
— Ron Jaworski (@jawsespn) November 10, 2015
You can bet the Dolphins saw this and will try to exploit it. One big difference. Dallas has a very good OL. Miami has allowed 23 sacks this year. Going empty is dangerous if your front five can’t protect the QB.
This will be a risk/reward question for Miami.
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I think a nice scenario would be to sign Bradford for X years, turn around and draft a QB/OL, QB/OL and a OL/CB/S with the 1st and 3rds respectively.
We already drafted a QB/OL in the first, and Lane hasn’t taken one snap at QB. Now you want to get two more in the first and third? And a OL/CB/S tweeter with our other third? I know we like big corners and athletic linemen, but that is still a tough combo to find.
Does a tweener become a tweeter when he is able to play 3 different positions instead of just 2? That must be some new lingo!
Tanner McEvoy Wisconsin is closest to your wish lol but he is FS/WR/QB
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2015-09-17/wisconsin-football-tanner-mcevoy-heavy-use-among-two-way-players
In addition to being able to play OL, CB, and S, we also need a player with a good twitter game. Emmanuel Acho is back for now, but we need to think long term and get some young players to develop as tweeters.
throw the ball straight up in the air, pancake a pass rusher, catch the ball and run with it, the 1 man wrecking machine.
A QB who runs with the ball? Now you are just being silly.
he might decide to do more of a trundle for maximum violence.
I’m still waiting for Kelly to figure out how to use Lane’s background for a gadget play 🙂
How about signing Bradford then trading him for MARIOTTAZZ!!!!
and a 2nd.
after he suffers 2 season ending injuries in a row
Mariota is coming, Chip and him have a deal. He’ll play out his rookie deal and then come on back to the Chippah, bet.
I’m not so sure Fans are going to see us add 2-3 lineman like so many people seem to hope… Chip may value continuity, more experiemce and continued development of young Lineman. I’m not sure chip will want to lose Dennis Kelly, Gardner, Tobin or Barbre after this season. Didn’t we just hand Kelly and Gardner 1 yeàr extensions? keep in mind last year Chip valued dennis so much that we kept him as the 10th OL even tho we only wanted to keep 9… Chip and Stoutland dont strike me as the types to waste YEARS developing OL that we aren’t very high on, especially since chip proved that he will make changes if he sees limited potemtial, and I can assure you, No coach in his right mind devalues OL play… I think chip values continuing to Develope guys like Garner, Barbre, Kelly and Tobin more than people think, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Josh Amdrews is the ONLY Roster spot we change this next offseason
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I wont at all be surprised if we only see us add one new Lineman this offseason. jason Peters could dictate what type of OL we add if we only upgrade josh Andrews roster spot. IF JP wants to spend another year at LT, draft a Stud Guard/with hopefully some center experiemce as well. Or if JP wants to make the switch to Guard this summer and form a powerhouse tandem lined up next to Lane, we would then need the OL we add to be able to play Tackle. jason Peters is a powerhouse OX who has plenty of size and strength to make the transition to Guard without much trouble, and his athleticism allows him to do all the pulling we ask of Guards..
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I was very pleased with what I saw from Dennis Kelly, but stylistically speaking,Greg Hardy was a decent matchup for Dennis in that Dennis best skill is he is a very Powerful man, so going up against a 280lb power rusher like Hardy is a favorable matchup for Kelly Stylistically speaking… The problem is when Dennis Kelly encounters agile speed rushers like VON Miller, his lack of athleticism should cause him to struggle against the speed rushers..
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Just because young players sit the bench for us for 3 or 4 years, doesnt mean they can’t grow into starting caliber NFL players once given an opportunity, a little continuity and game experience… I would prefer we add a serious young talent to our OL, but I’m starting to think fans won’t see the two or three new Lineman many fans are clamoring for… Think chip and Stoutland legitimately like our inexperienced OL more than we seem to think…we just saw chip replace some really good players because he felt they weren’t good ENOUGH, if he doesmt have a real belief in These OL, a position that No coach would ever devalue, I would assume OL changes would have been way higher on his list than ILB depth this past offseason….sometimes young lineman need a few years to develop and an Opportunity in a healthy situation at the RIGHT TIME… Hopefully we are done with OL injuries for the years so our line can get another 8 games of game experiemce, and another half a season of continuity to further Gel and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to end up seeing the coaches wanting to keep these lineman in place, and only end up upgrading the Josh Andrews roster spot…. But I’m sure how they continue to develope or not, these next 8 games will play a big role in whether we keep this OL intact, or make drastic changes like we have at other positions
True but Chip has also shown us that he doesn’t pass on the BPA. I agree with possibly only drafting 1 more OL and that’s fine but if he didn’t I see that as a bit foolish. I could see drafting one and signing another. The line has done better recently but it is arguably the most important unit of the team. I think it would be smart to infuse young talent every year into it. For example an OL in the first 3 rounds this year and another one 4-6 in 2017.
I will say the OL has played very well recently and I am surprised at the pass protection honestly. Bradford has a ton of time in the pocket.
I will NEVER complain about adding young OL Talent if he is the BPA no matter how much OL talemt we already have.. But Fans talking about going into a draft and looking to come out of it with two or three new Lineman doesmt sound like BPA to me, Targetting a position multiple times ISNT letting the BPA process unfold..
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But I’ll always support more OL talent if it’s the BPA. Too much OL talent is a problem I welcome happily, like the Too Much ILB narrative we heard going into this season, and OL is way more important than ILBs… If we end up with too much talent, it’s never going to be hard to find a trade partner if we have a quality OL like Boykin that needed to be paid soon, that we could trade for draft,picks, of we have a younger guy as capable who will play on a cheap rookie contract for the next 3 or 4 years… So it’s NEVER a bad Idea to pull the trigger on OL no matter what you already have if he happens to be the BPA…
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But in terms of my ideal starting Line for next year, I don’t tHink JP has to move to Guard yet, but playing Lane and JP next to each other on the left side, with two Power RBs behind them sounds very intruiging to me. JP can stay at LT, but he is powerful enough to move to Guard without much difficulty, and can form a Powerhouse tandem on the left side to havee Lane, JP. And Kelce linning up next to each other. with Kelde lack of size, be awesome to have a long armed PowerHouse Linning up next to him to help kelce on the combo blocks when he faces big run stuffs like Giants Jonathon Hankins… moving JP to Guard While he can still play Tackle gives us a nice emergency Tackle if injuries pile up… If JP is willing to make this change next year, Im pretty confident that after this year of growth and experience, we can find a quality starting Guard emerge from Gardner, Tobin and Barbre battling it out in Camp…but This scenario would mean we have to hope a Talented RT ends up as a BPA in the early rounds to have a talented rookie RT to compete with Dennis Kelly who will be one year older and more experienced..
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The One complication to my ideal scenario, is Garner, Tobin and Barbre, non of our Guards can play backüp Center, so unless,we,are happy with Josh Andrews developmemt, we would need to find a Guard capabke of moving to Center if Need be..it would be Great if Josh Andrews who has some size is developing well at Center and our coaches have faith in him backing up KELCE the next couple of years..
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Regardless, much better to talk about upgrade OL via BPA, then being forced to re-do the OL because it’s playing go poorly..
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Keep in mind that if we move JP to Guard, it’s easier to let him keep that contract and move to Guard, if our starting RT is on a cheap rookie contract the next 4 or 5 years…
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Rather not pay for any more OL in Free agency since Lane needs To be extended in two years..the ONE Offensive Lineman I would want to see us Pay for it he ever reaches free agency is Kyle Long… Maybe we could try trading for him when he is on an expiring contract and see if Bears take the draft picks and save a ton of money not extending him, sort of like we did with Boykin… until Kyle Long signs a Longterm extension, I can’t give up the Kyle Long in Philly Dream, we can play him at Guard or RT
I can’t remember hearing Thorton’s name once during the broadcast, or often the past few games. It is good to hear he is getting back to himself.
He played well against Dallas.
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BG had stretches of domination against Tyrone smith, beating him in the pass rush, setting the edge well in the run, and crashing from the weakside and chasing down the RB from the back side for a short gain..
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EJ Biggers stepped up came in the game and put a stop to the Beasly bullshit
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B Max played well, regardless of what Hochuli’a thinks… nolan held up ok considering how much they were going after him,.
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Barwin completely ran over Doug Free on one Bullrush but free pulled Barwin down on top of him
I was thinking the same thing about hearing his name. Now I want to re-watch to see him play.
yeah he didn’t have the wow plays where he knifed into the backfield and met the RB at the hand-off (which he has been known to do), but the dude seems to have a knack for finding a way to the ball carrier in the proverbial cloud of dust.
So do they really only run 8 plays?
I think Kelly has said they have four running plays.
They have 4 base running plays, but they also have counters to those plays.
In the passing game, we most likely also only have 4-6 base plays, but there is built in options in the routes depending on what the DBs does after the snap. So when you begin the combine all those plays and package em.
Also a common mistake by people is that more plays = better offense. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning run some of the offenses with fewest plays in them, but people grew with the WCO and the 1 billion play books.
Who is the red head on the Cowboys that Inside the NFL caught crying to his position coach: “they are too fucking big inside, 91 is a Man dog”!!
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Bwahahahahahahah is the center Fredrick a Ginger!
Please say there is a link
I’ll post it if I come across it… It’s on this weeks episode of inside the NFL which airs on NFL network all week, or you can catch on showtimes On Demand… Try and Google Inside the NFL Eagles vs Cowboys highlights..
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For a,game where Cox didn’t put up spectacular stats, great to hear right from the opponents mouth the effects our young Dominant stud can have on games even when the stat sheet doesn’t reflect it..
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Btw, if you happen to watch the episode, Mike Zimmer was Mic’ed up for the Rams game and he had a ton to say about Jeff Fisher and Greg Williams during the game.. Another Must see clip…
Thanks, but BLG posted the link on Twitter before I had to search letting me be lazy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmLNLidVQFQ&feature=youtu.be
Even better, glad fans can see it…. Any idea who it was that said it?
Witten
Good call, doesn’t look like a ginger after re watching it
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Great to hear the most respected OL in the game, crying to their assistant coach about our dominant 24yr old monster
No, I have too much hatred to spend any time actually learning names or distinguishing individual Cowboys voluntarily.
Can’t wait to watch Sam Bradford quarterback for [team] to a record of [record] in 2016.
Eagles, 19-0
is ej biggers the mvp of that game. we were getting toasted by cole beasley.
I know it won’t happen but I keep dreaming about Boykin coming home to play the slot. There’s essentially no way he could keep his ego in tact and return to the team that dumped him off but still…Cole Beasley is no (insert NE slot receiver).
Why pay him? I dream of JaCorey Shepard emerging as a stud who takes over the nickel at cheap 6th round money for the next few years.. And EJ BIGS has been better than expected for the most part..
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I guess if sitting on the bench all yeàr has humbled Boykin and driven his price Tag down BIGTIME and he ends up being as cheap as BIGS it could be a solid idea… But we have too much Young DB Talent to Develope to go pay Boykins what he wants to be paid…
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Keep in Mind that ROWE is a future stud in Training, and Nolan is capable of moving inside, so at some point we could see ROWE starting outside opposite of Maxwell, with Nolan moving to Nickel and JaCorey or EJ playing the Dime spot.. Plenty of DB talent, and young talent who’s best ball is still ahead of them.. I really don’t wamt to pay another free agent DB, if a corner is the BPA when it’s time for us to pick, then im fine with drafting more DB talent, but I see no reason to pay for it in free agency
I wouldn’t mind signing Boykin on the cheap like you said to bring in competition/upgrade on Biggers. He could also act as insurance for Shepard if he’s a little hesitant or takes some time rounding into form after the injury. That would also let us get some more young proven CB depth without having to use a draft pick. Probably won’t happen, but it could be a win if it did.
Worth noting that if the Eagles don’t make the playoffs, they will likely be picked for Hard Knocks next year. Pretty sure Kelly would rather have a press conference every day of the offseason than have to expose the inner mysteries to camera crews.
is that a guess or did you read that some where?
They would be eligible due to no playoffs in 2 years/ no new HC rule. No one volunteers anymore. Eagles are a huge market. Unconventonal coach. Dallas/NY fans would hatewatch. If HBO didn’t pick the Eagles it would because Lurie pulled off backroom negotiating, not because they weren’t the top team on the wishlist.
Is what a guess? If they don’t make the playoffs, they become HK eligible. That obviously can’t be announced until the season is over. But given the dearth of choices lately, I’d put it at extremely likely, barring some serious backroom dealing. And if one thing has been clear, it’s that neither Lurie nor Kelly has much influence with the league.
you said “likely picked” — THAT is a guess. So yes, they are eligible. I’m not questioning eligibility — I’m questioning your comment “likely picked”. You have no backing/facts/resources to support that. So it’s your opinion(maybe a hopeful opinion)/guess.
Teams don’t have a choice. But I’m thinking you care a lot more about this than me. Let’s hope we don’t find out who’s right.
yikes, hadn’t really thought about that. I could see him quitting and taking his secrets elsewhere before he lets the way he runs his organization become a spectacle.
Regarding Jaw’s stat: I’m assuming Beasley vs. Jenkins was a big part of that. I’m thinking that also included Cassel’s prayer-heave to the end zone that Bryant came down with.
Spot on article. So many questions still linger. When you try to figure out Bradford and his progress(so far) there is hope. But the thought of Foles second season creeps into my head. Sure would be great to have the QB position solidified for now and the future.
Agreed. The worst outcome might be that Bradford keeps progressing in small increments but doesn’t put together a string of games where he plays at a sufficiently high level that were ready to say he’s the guy. The uncertainty is tough to strategize around well. I don’t like playing the lottery with mid round qb picks if Sam seems “good enough.” I’d rather go all in with a first rounder or not at all, and that’s not happening with resigning Sam.
If there’s any time for him to shine, it’s now. The next three games are set up for him. The timing is right. He’s starting to look more comfortable. It’s November, when the real players step up. His big window of opportunity is right now. If he can out up big numbers and pass he eye test in the next few games and show some more guts in some of the last few games against division rivals or other tough opponents (eg NE or SEA), I’ll be pretty pleased.
If Bradford finishes the season with 66% completion and 2 to 1 td/int ratio he should be brought back on a team friendly deal. I think a full offseason of work would really bring out the best in him. However, we continue to see the roller-coaster that has been this season with his play then its probably time to go back to the drawing board.
It means a very good week that follows. Cowboys “fans” disappearing into the wind. The actual Cowboy fans having melt downs (all 10 of them). Their organization looking like a disaster from top to bottom.
Meanwhile I get to good feelings of the Eagles beating Dallas, and the relief that we didn’t get swept. So at least the season won’t be a complete disaster.
On a side note, I like the way Bradford was moving in and out of the pocket. He’s really looking like he’s all the way back. And his play is starting to reflect that.
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Wow, that photo is embarrassing.
If JP isn’t Fully healed this week, mIami is a good team to sit him against to give JP the best chance at staying healthy the rest of the year.
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Losing Cameron wake for the season cripples the miami edge rush. Demarcus Lawrence, Greg Hardy, Gregory and Micy are a much bigger pass rushing challenge for Lane and Dennis Kelly than anything the dolphins have to throw against us, so I’m kind of leaning towards wanting JP to sit this one out and give him the best chance to finish the year strong..
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Facing another scumbag this week in DonkeyKong Suh, im thrilled that our interior OL was given another week of continuity against Dallas. We have handled facing Suh really well in the past, he is the type of front Runner who fatigues and checks out after getting worn down by our tempo. if we can continue to run the ball like we have the past 4 games, Suh is going to have another dissapointing performance against the Eagles. he is an Undiscaplined Nut Job, so once he has to play thru fatigue, he starts to make mistakes, get frustrated and take cheap shots that cost his team… If we can keep Suh from Bending Bradford in half, we should be able to keep the rest of the dolphins DL in check…our tempo, and run game can be a HUGE weapon for us this week if we continue to improve a little with each week..
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Miamis best weapon is Jarvis Landry who spends a lot of time in the slot. Tiny quick COle Beasly types ARENT an ideal matchup for Jenkins, maybe our Safeties can do a better job matching up against Landry than they did against COle Beasly, but I was really thrilled to see EJ Biggers come into the game, step up and put an end to the Beasly bullshit in Dallas, and with MIamis best WR Jarvis Landry spending a lot of time in the slot, EJ Biggers could again be needed to step up and have a strong showing for us this week.. EJ has been a pleasant surprise,showing to be a better player than I thought he was before he got to Philly, and I definitely want to see him consistently get snaps the next 3 weeks because we will need him to step up and have his best game in Foxborough matching up with Edleman..
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I can’t help but wonder who would have ended up getting the most nickel snaps this year if we still had Boykin the steelers benchwarmer, Healthy Rookie JaCorey Shep, Maragos, and Bigs? Would boykin have dominated the nickel snaps or was a 6th round rookie going to beat out Boykin, Bigs, and Maragos?
So GREAT to have not only solved our safety problem, but also having the deepest pool of corner talemt we have had in So long. Gone are the days bums like Curtis Marsh, Roc Carmicheal and wasting our roster spots being useless on our bench.. Not only do we have nice veteran talent in B-max, Nolan and Bigs, but we also have some enticing young talent being groomed in ROWE, Denzel Rice and JaCorey
Should be able to get Bradford on a 2-3 year team friendly deal. His stats (and OL and WR play) make him look worse than he’s played. I don’t love the guy but for the right price he can be our Jay Cutler (or Alex Smith or Ryan Tanehill etc) until Chip hits on a QB pick. We just have to pick a QB every year until this happens or Mariota’s rookie deal ends.
Jay, Alex Ryan. All make big bucks.
That’s true, didn’t think of that. I wonder how low we could get him signed and who is most likely to outbid us.
I think it’s fair to say Bradford has given this team a chance to win games these last two games. If not for really bad drops, we are having a different conversation about that Panthers game. He has been much better with the ball over the last two games, and to me that’s extremely important. Another two or three games without a turnover and yeah, I’m happy moving forward with Bradford.
The difference with Bradford is you can see the accuracy is there. That wheel route to Murray was beautiful. He could have close his eyes and caught that thing.
Yeah I was really hard on Bradford early in the season, but it seems he is finally waking up out of his fog. We really just need him to be consistent and accurate. The way our offense gets rolling with a few first downs makes up for the lack of a superstar QB.
Yeah, it seems that people need time to kind of get into a decent rhythm to get accuracy just right. It’s different against vanilla defenses in preseason, but takes time against defenses that are game planning against you.
If his accuracy stays like this or gets better, this deal will definitely be in our favor.
Speaking of the wheel route. It reminds me that too many people keep complaining about how chips predictable early game swing pass to Murray always fails, but we need to understand that the early game swing pass that keeps failing is just an early game INVESTMENT that should help to set up big swing pass later in the game..
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Ever LB sees our swing pass on Film, so if they are ready for it, and make a big hit early in the game shutting it down, later in the game where we fake the swing pass.nthe Defemders eyes lights up to think he is about to get another big hit because he sees the swing pass coming, aggressively tries to stop the swing pass, yet at the last second, our RB’s turns up field and turns what an aggressive defender thinks is another swing pass that he can feast on, into a wheel Route that catches him slipping later in the game…
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So not having success because defenders are ready for that swing pass ISNT the end of the world, because it’s an investment that helps set up the defender to get burned on a big wheel route later on…as long as the wheel routes keep doing damage, I can deal with sacraficing an early game swing pass for no gain to help set it up…
CK likes to show certain looks and make changes later in the game. Not just the swing pass, but other routes as well. His tempo works well later in games when defenders make the wrong decision due to fatigue.
Loved how he stepped up amnd Battled against Carolina no matter how much his WRs were failing him… And to improve on the Carolina performamce and follow it up with an even better performance against the Cowoys, is very exciting for this city… Even when he struggled, I always maintained that Sammy Boy getting thru this season healthy was WHATS most Important for this franchise… That becomes more true than ever if he continues to improve and stay healthy these next 8 games..
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He is actually looking better in areas than I expected. We Knew about the arm talent, but his pocket presence is more IMPRESSVE than I expected. now that he trusts his OL and his body to hold up, he is able to keep his eyes down field, and Not flinch in the face of the pass rush, He is showing a real “Feel and awareness” for pass rushing pressure, and staying one step ahead of the pass rush, delivery he ball before they can get to him. Also doing a good job of buying time, stepping up or side stepping to avoid the pass rush and give WRs like Jordan time to set up the defender and burn him.. And for weeks now he has shown that he can roll out and throw on the run..
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Also seeing him use his eyes to Manipulate the defense. For example everyone keeps talking about how Josh Huff was the first read on the game winning TD to Jordan, and yes Bradford looked Huffs way first, but in the huddled before the play he told Pope jordan that the ball was coming to him, he then helped set it up by looking Huffs way first and then coming back to hit Jordan in stride.
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The Next step for Sams growth is making defenses pay by keeping the ball and running when he has a clear path for 8-10 yards. Our run game hasn’t had 4 games of 150 plus rushing yards in a row in a few decades and our OL is still gelling aNd the RBs are getting more comfortable each week.. keep that up, and if we can add the element of SAM running and burning defenses for a few first downs, it will open up our run game even more and help to further wear down defenses in the first half,,, We Finally have a QB that Knows how to properly slide which we haven’t had in so long, he a shame to not take advantage of it… SAM trusts his body now, the injuries are out of his head, be awesome to see him add the threat of running which can help freeze a defender on occassion and make things a little easier for our Run game..
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If SAM has really turned there corner and continues to build on a BIGTIME sunday night, prime time win that ended with a walk off TD, exciting times will be ahead and a lot of media blowhards will owe chip an appology and replace their Thanksgving Turkeys, with Deep Fried CROW!!!
It doesn’t escape me that Fisher said he took the job in StL because they had Bradford. Coaches look at tape and see what this guy is capable of. The only reason he isn’t there now is that Fisher felt worried about him getting injured again and he couldn’t go through that.
You’re right about Chip the GM starting to silence his critics. All those questions about whether he felt he had enough talent aren’t being asked anymore.
I love the way Sam rolls out. It’s so great off a play action when the run game is working. Plus it looks like a nice way to get Sam going. On top of getting what’s probably an easier read and throw, Sam’s body is just taking over. Very little thinking. It reminds me of how McNabb would seem to get going after a scramble, or even how a basketball player’s shot starts falling after a few layups.
Chip the GM is starting to silence the critics a little more each week, and if this Offense continues to improve a little each week like they have the Carolina week, and Dallas week, we have a shot to grow into one of the teams playing there best ball in December which is so important.. Would rather struggle the first half and come together and play our best late in the season, than the opposite aka collapsing in December like we did last year… So I’m cautiously optimistic, and im mostly encouraged by the RBs starting to get comfortable, OL continuing to improve, and most important, the growth Sam has been showing since those early two INTs vs the saints..
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But one GM decision that has looked like a mistake to me so far this season that no one talks about is it was Too soon to replace a ST WARRIOR like Prosinski and think Couplin was ready to fill his big ST shoes. Couplin hasn’t been a disaster, but he hasn’t stuck out as one of our best ST plays the way we ALWAYS noticed the ST impact of Prosinski…
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The Horrible kickoff return we gave away after the pick 6 from Baby Simba was mostly Couplins fault. Looked like he stumbled a bit and the kick returner was able to side step him and burn us for a big Kick Return at the worst time possible, instead of allowing us to build on the momentum from the big INT return of Hicks… ProsInski normally has been stout at worst, ST playmaker at best… frustrating to see Sturgis step up, and then see ST breakdowns in other phases. We gave up the costly kick off return this week, and horrible punt block in week 2 which is more bad plays than we Prob had all last season… Couplin hasnt been a disaster, but he isn’t even close to adequately replacing the great ST play we were able to count on Prosinsi for..
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RB’s, OL, QB, even WR all startng to show some growth, I don’t expect our ST to make game changing plays every time, but they do need to step up, he stout and stop giving up big game changing plays to opponents.. It’s the second half of the year, Fipps unit needs to clean up their act NOW!!!
Our STs have had mental lapses against Dallas. This past game it was the long return. The previous one it was the blocked punt for TD. Something about the Dallas games this year with the mishaps in that phase of the game.
I like where our running game is headed. The continuity on the Oline is getting better and Bradford is getting more comfortable.
It’s scary to think that the run game still hasn’t hit full stride. The numbers right now are great, and it still looks like there’s meat left on the bone.
Can be chewed up if we used mathews more
Tommy/igglesblitzers — what are your feelings on Kap next year?
I just threw up in my mouth a little. I don’t feel like he ever developed enough as a passer. His running would be great and I’m sure Chip could build an offense around him but is he really someone you want leading the Eagles? I just don’t see it. I think he’s ruined.
Personality aside, the talent there (at least when Harbaugh was there) was alluring. Worth taking a look at him if bradford flops the rest of the year. Though there is something to be said for continuity and letting the guy who’s comfortable in the system continue at QB.
Exactly if you want to say screw it and go the with the running QB, 1 or 2 reads model, do it on the cheap, not with Kap.
For me it depends on what Bradford looks like at the end of the season. If he’s around 66% completion with a 2 to 1 td/int ratio I’m fine with signing him to a team friendly deal and drafting a young QB. But if he totally craps the bed then I wouldn’t mind signing Kap if he’s cut to come in and compete, but to me thats worst case scenario
I would like to see that too, but closer to 70% in the last 8 games. I think with the rushing attack he’s not going to throw many TDs during a game, so a 2-1 ratio isn’t ideal.
For me to be happy with him moving forward the last 8 games I’d like to see him average:
close to 70% accuracy
4.5-1 TD-to-Int ratio
We face AZ, NE, & Buff who I think all have good to very good defenses. I like your numbers during those games, if he’s getting close to 300 yards. But in the end, I’d like to see the averages look much better over the last 8 games.
I was considering we run more often now, so due to his early season ints he’ll probably finish around 2 to 1 overall, but his last 8 games will probably around the ratio you stated. 70% for me is a little high and unfair considering the drops still haven’t gone away.
Against those defenses I honestly would prefer a game closer to the one head against Dallas on Sunday. Pound the ball and keep the defense off the field for once.
Me too. Just protect the football and cut out the mistakes.
Sam looks good when he doesn’t have to throw the ball 40 to 45 times. I think he really likes just having to be a facilitator instead of miracle worker. Now with Ags back hopefully our passing game takes a step forward.
I don’t think any QB should have to regularly shoulder the load like that. Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, and Luck have done it and in the case of Luck, has to do it.
Against terrible pass defenses, I could see Bradford having to do that every now and then. I like Bradford at the 35 number give or take as long as we’re getting close to 40 rushes.
Yeah if the situation dictates it I’m fine with him throwing a few more like against Atlanta when a lot of them were screen or swing passes. But if we could get to 40 rushes I would love that especially on 3rd and short. I’m starting to get more and more annoyed with the shallow crosser
Don’t be, it’s just who SB decides to throw to and what the defense is giving you.
Here’s one example (I’ll try and post a couple others).
https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/663814994610532353
I’m reading Fran’s review now. I think Sam isn’t allowing the play to develop to avoid the sack. I really think in those 3rd and 2 to go situations we should be running and maybe do a play action fake into the shallow crosser if teams start to crash on the run. I’m glad its not play design though as the execution can be fixed.
My thoughts exactly.
BTW – I look forward to Duffy’s All-22s every week.
This one starts and looks like a crosser, then he cuts back and goes upfield.
https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/663787386506240001
I love that he doesn’t let them take him to the ground.
Sam has earned the nickname “Captain Checkdown”. It’s odd to see because he has the tools to pull off some pretty sweet throws but is hesitant to pull the trigger. I wonder if it’s accuracy, inability to consistently read the D, or just natural conservatism.
There is a stat called “ALEX” which measures the air yards _less_ a QB throws a pass than what is typical or expected (named after Alex Smith). Bradford is usually at the very bottom of the list. Well, Alex Smith is usually at the very bottom, followed by SB!
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/alex/2015/alex-week-9-and-short-vs-stick-throws
I think its your third point that he is just a natural conservative QB. I believe the Redskins game and this last game shows he has the ability to both read and make downfield throws. Specifically the corner route to Austin, the wheel route to Murray and the 50/50 ball to Ertz are pretty goo examples. I think a lot of Chip’s play calls focus on YAC especially without a consistent deep threat. Chip does try to stretch the field both vertically and horizontally, but I would guess his preference is horizontal. If Ags breaks out or steps up like Matthews did in the 2nd half of the season last year we may see the dream scenario of a couple 40 yard bombs.
Yes, he does flash tantalizing skills occasionally. As to the playcalling increasing his “ALEX”, I could see that. In that game, after all, it was working! However, if you look at his time with the Rams, you will see very similar performance. Lots of balls thrown far short of the chains, with a puzzlingly low accuracy (which cannot be explained by drops). I don’t think that’s coincidental. To me, an interesting mystery is whether he is conservative because he knows he can’t consistently get the ball to the midrange/deep targets, or it’s just a personality thing.
That would be a great question for a reporter to ask during a press conference, but doubt we’d get any definitive answers. The low accuracy with the Rams is puzzling, but I think would make for interesting analysis at the end of this season to see if it changed or not. If it didn’t then your theory is probably the most accurate that he’s a conservative QB because his ability makes him one. If its not then that probably causes more questions than answers. It’d be interesting either way.
PIPE DREAM, FANTASY…. “fughetaboutit”.
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Our Coach has proven to put serious value on Football Charechtet, so I’m not sure why anyone would think he would EVER go with a QB, the leader of his team who is a complete Mutt and shows NO FOOTBALL Charechter when presented with adversity.. Times get tough, KAp alienates himself from his teammates, he doesn’t help lead them out of a slump..
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1) poor, and serious lack of leadership and football Charechter in the face of adversity
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2) Poor and serious lack of Football intelligence continuing to struggle reading defenses after like 5 years of game experience
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3) Poor and serious lack of Repetitive Accuracy that has NEVER been a strength of his…
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But because the guy can run fast, chip is just going to overlook all those crucial fatal Flaws? Really? We shouldn’t be having this convo after 3 years and countless QB decisions worth of precedent..
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Chip being Interested in KAp is almost as bad as “Johnny Manziel being chips dream QB”
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chip goes into a season with Sanchez as the starter before you ever see Kapernick on the Eagles…
I’m looking to get rid of Sam Bradford who is partially inaccurate and makes bad decision and is not capable of reading a defense and running the offense. I’m however not looking to replace that with someone who is worse in every single category.
Its similar to the Sanchize issue. Badford is not good and should not be starting for the Eagles, that doesn’t mean Sanchez should go in just because he is different, when he proved last year that he is also worse.
We should be looking to upgrade Badford, not replace him with even or worse, unless its significantly cheaper, meaning dont pay Badford any real money, or someone with potentiel, meaning a rookie to cling our hopes to.
agreed but who are those guys that are better? Thats why we overpaid for bradford because franchise guys dont become available.
Worse than I felt about Vick when people were saying he was brought here to replace 5.
My idea isn’t popular, but I believe Chip is already committed to Bradford for the next couple of years. This is a long term building up a team focus. Bradford won’t really shine until he has more time to recover from his injuries and build muscle.
If Kaep wants to come be a third string qb on this team then so be it.
Maybe he can be our Julian Edelman – third string QB and gadget player while he learns to be a receiver.
I’d be ok with rolling the dice on that.
i’m with you mac, I think barring another major injury that Sam is in the long term plans. Chip still wants to round out this roster to complete his vision of a team, which is hard to do to the fullest extent, but it is nice to have a guy at qb and stick with him so you can figure out the rest.
I still think Sam has room to grow in this offense.
Not as a presumptive starter. He’s intriguing if you groom him to our offense and meet him half way. Obviously that’s unlikely since he’ll be looking for a place to start. If we decided we don’t have the guy I wouldn’t mind Bradford/Sanchez keeping the seat warm with Kaep and a rookie in reserve. Obviously if Bradford keeps getting better and he turns out to be the guy we want then that is great, forget Kaep.
I wouldn’t mind taking Kaep on a short term back up deal.
Some competition for both Brad and Sanchez would be good for the team.
I also think he would do well for us.
The thing with Kaep is he needs a strong supporting cast to be successful. He had that his first couple years in SF. Strong defense, strong running game, strong O-line. When he’s asked to manage the game, run and pick up just a couple first downs and complete 10-12 throws, he can win games with that formula. This year he’s being asked to take a team that is grossly lacking in talent (behind a terrible O-line) and throw the ball 30-40 times a game to win.
I think if he came to Philly the read option game would open up this offense to levels we haven’t seen before. We’ve got a defense that will keep us in most games. We’ve got the backs to run the ball. If we are able to restock the O-line a little, Kaep could have a similar situation to what he started with in SF.
I know it’s on to Miami but…………………..
Last Years Team: Mediocre Team that Overachieved by the skin of their teeth in the beginning of the season (Thank you Sproles), and exploited later in the season. Also depth was tested, and did not hold up.
This Years Team: Possibly overall talent/depth upgrade, but chance to blow up if chemistry can not be found by bye week. Underachieved in the beginning of the season with chance to improve in 2nd half of season.
….which situation would I rather have now that we can holistically look back on the last year and a half….. this year.
I’m sorry, but does CSN think ANY fan has EVER thought “I need to rush home because I just have to hear what amy Fadool has to say about the Eagles”???
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STAY in YOUR LANE!!!!
Is that a Jeff McLane plug?
Another good All-22 by Chipwagon.
http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2015/11/new-wrinkles-or-breaking-tendencies.html
Damn, malcolm jenkins has a concussion..currently going through protocol. Hopefully he’ll be ok to go this week
Whiplash from trying to tail Beasley on those touchdowns, no doubt…
Welcome to the Jerome Couplin era.
Hopefully it’s a teddy Bridgewater Type of concussion that he can get over in time to get a few days of practice and not miss any games,.. But if Malcolm can’t play, I assume Maragos is next in line, and us having to lean on EJ BIGS and our Nickel package until Malcolm gets back….
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I don’t recall Malcolm having a serious hstory of concussions, any one know for sure? Fortunately we have been prudent with injuries of guys who want to rush back like AGHOLAR so we won’t be scumbags and ask him to play before he is ready,
Don’t say That…. I’ll be sick if we don’t have “brother Mouzone” for a important game agains the Dolphins, trying to put an end to this .500 football crap we been dealing with all year.. Gotta win this game, and put .500 football behind us for good
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With games against the Patriots, Cardinals, Bills, Skins who have been a thorn in our side as of late Ahead of us, winning these next 3 games is so important, and Miami is Probably the toughest of the 3…
haha thats a great reference.. well done.
Our Bow tie assassin patrolling the no fly zone!
Prepare yourself…..
Sam Bradford, will have good games and bad games and Eagles will be signing Sam to a 20 mil per year contract.
There are no other REAL options.
Which has been the plan, basically, since that 2nd round pick was shipped out the the LA Rams.
i hope everyone gives celek props for his block on hardy on the final play. thats an incredibly difficult block to make, and even though he just holds him up for a second it was the difference between us winning and a possible sack fumble situation. overlooked play by our longest tenured player
Absolutely…BIG TIME Play! But that same respect needs to be given to Our most frustrating young player Josh Huff for the big time Block down field that helped get Jordan in the ENDZONE for the walk off TD..
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No player frustrates me more than Huff, but I see too many people already write him off after only a year and a half at a positipn that isn’t easy to transition to from College.. While the young knucklehead drives me crazy, it’s still very possible that he developes into a quality starter even if it doesn’t happen as quickily as we would like..
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But even without improving, he still gives us the blocking to replace Cooper and get out of that bad contract of his.. Coop has made a few nice catches but his biggest contributions have been some key blocks in the REDZONE..Coops best attribute is his consistent blocking, and that’s the only thing we can count on consistentky from Huff at this point, so at the very least Huffs blocking makes it almost impossible to justify letting Cooper keep his contract for another year now that we can get out of it without getting killed on dead money after this season… While we Patiently wait for Josh to grow into an NFL starting WR, he can at least be counted on to replace Coops blocking, which Frees up some good money to give to some much more deserving than Coop… gotta get rid of that contract first and Formost after this season, but If Coop can’t find any nice offers, and his “Racist mistake” ISNT finding a warm welcome, Im fine with Coop eventually returning, but ONLY at #5 WR money, and start using him more on ST than on Offense, but I’m talking a massive pay cut that probably won’t be appealing,.. I assume Andy Reid would take him
i think huff’s mind is still going a million miles an hour…. has the tools to be a tough physical receiver that can do everything well, maybe that’s the problem, focusing on every aspect of his game instead of one thing at a time.
I’m sure that has to do with it,,, game needs to slow down for him some more…it’s discouraging because even with SAM and the run game playing some good ball, he still is struggling to get it going. Where as Our Rookie Agholars early struggles weren’t an issue of lack of separation, and the rookie had little chemistry with the struggling QB who’s head was spinning early in the year.. I’m very curious to see what a healthy AGHOLAR can do now that he has an accurate Confident QB throwing to him, and a run game to help open things up for our passing attack… if AGHOLAR has a big second half of the season, maybe it’s the extra kick in the ass Huff needs.
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I do wish chip would get more creative with Huff to try and get him going, but that’s hard To do when we call simply screen plays for him and he can’t even catch those…. Id Like to see is give him a chance to run a reverse, but it’s kind of scary considering how mistake prone he has been. We are starting to take care of the ball, risky to give Huff a chance to screw that up asking him to handle a reverse.,. But at the very least try switching him and Jordan around at times to let Huff work in the slot and run some of those crossing routes,, and if we are so against talkimg Jordan out of the slot, line Huff up as a RB and let him run routes out of the backfield to try and get him going… His Talent can be weaponized so we can’t just give up on him, but we need to look for the proper balance of trying To get him going, while keeping him out of position to do significant harm to us like fumbling a reverse in the backfield..
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looks like Jordan, Sproles and Ertz all cleaned up their mistakes, stepped up,and were some reliable Targets for SAM.. Even Mile Austin went up and got a clutch pass converting a long 3rd and 18 for us… if SAM can also put AGHOLAR and Huffs talent to use, while our OL and rushing attack continues to improve,we should start to see the explosive offense that could Attack teams in waves that we hoped to see…
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I want to see ERTZ, Jordan, Sproles and Bradford improve their 3rd down conversions, while hopefully getting the young WRs going and add AGHOLAR and Huffs talemts to our scoring attack
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Also curious to see if Rowe starts showing the coaches enough growth forcing their hand into giving him some snaps on defense the second half of this season
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Id also Like to see Taylor Hart turn it up a notch now that hehas a half of season worth of NFL experience
If even just one of Agholor and Huff can get integrated into the attack, we’re in good shape (this is assuming Matthews has turned the corner on the drops). Add that to the cranking run game and Sam can really just be a distributor, the role he’s really fit to play.
I agree and I don’t think that makes him a bad QB, to me that’s what makes a great QB. No mistakes and getting the ball to the right spot.
You know what has replaced the Earl Thomas draft miss from a few years back…… Marcus Smith instead of Derek Carr!!!!!!!!!!!!! F*ck!!!!!!!!
I was wondering why we didn’t take Carr too.
Such a missed opportunity. Just think of Jimmy’s stick figures turning into Carr-toons. Yet another in a long line of could’ve beens.
i’ll admit he does look the part in a raiders uniform, i don’t know why but i find myself rooting for the raiders most of the time… must be an N.W.A. thing.
1. Because people would have lost they damn minds after 27-2
2. Carr has outplayed the hell out of his prospect profile.
3. Because people would have freaked out because his brother was a bust
4. His prospect profile basically was
PROs: cannon arm, NFL bloodlines, productive statline, experienced
CONs: Air Raid offense, MWC competition, bad to horrible pocket awarness, struggled against anyone half decent Ds, undersized
5.. Revisionist draft history is stupid
Marcus Smith didn’t exactly have a sterling prospect profile either, yet we reached for him a few picks before Carr, after #15 in my mind is a much bigger crapshoot in my opinion anyway so damned if you do, damned if you don’t, but a fringe 1st rd QB vs. an ACC Pass Rusher who has only been playing DE/OLB for 1-2 years prior? Still would have went for Carr in that situation.
….but I see your point Marcus Smith did play QB in a former life.
Marcus moved as a sophomore and rotated for 1 year and started for 2.
He actually had a great prospect profile, specifically for what we do. (He was pretty queit statistically as a junior, and put up good but not insane numbers in INDY, and people fawn over guys who only rush like Dee Ford, so the hype machine never caught up) He was great in coverage, good against the run, and showed a wide variety of albeit completely unrefined pass rush moves. He hasn’t panned out, but super productive, HWS, from top 5 programs deemed can’t miss bust all the time too.
And once again, everybody would have freaked the hell out about drafting a QB. The Raiders didn’t think Carr was going to be this good. Nobody did.
…and people freaking out plays into Chip’s actions in exactly what way? Other than none?
1. He wasn’t going to get full personnel control with a rookie QB
2. I’m sure he at least thought Foles had a chance to be the guy as well at that point
3. Insofar as it being Earl Thomas 2.0 the comparison doesn’t make sense. Everybody in town wanted Earl. A small minority wanted Manziel, an even smaller minority wanted Teddy. NOBODY wanted us to draft Carr.
I’d rather have Teddy Bridgewater, but same sentiment. Felt that way on draft day, and still feel that way now. Loved how he was a more cerebral QB in college. He actually programmed LVille plays into his xbox so he could play QB the same way in the game.
I’m also not as down on Marcus Smith as most people and haven’t given up on him yet.
you think they might franchise tag bradford next year? A lot of money, but only for 1 year….. if he has a good year, THEN you can sign him because he will be getting around that money anyway…. kinda helps with the sticker price shock value, especially with a QB.
It’s a possibility but if he’s not the long term guy I could see Chip letting him walk. Pretty much nothing would surprise me with Kelly and QB.
i agree with EVERYONE though, there are no options out there next year.
long term?….. whos to say Bradford would turn down a 2-3 year contract with 50% guaranteed money?
Not so much from Bradford’s POV, but from Kelly’s.
If Chip doesn’t think he’s “the guy” it’s pretty clear he’s got no qualms about moving on and trying the next one.
Now if it’s equally clear that nobody available gives the team the same shot that Bradford does that’s a whole different story.
Yep. If he ends well you tag him. Nothing long term. His slow start eliminated that. If he works out the following year you just have to be prepared to make him the highest paid QB.
I’ve been thinking of the win. Someone else brought this up and I didn’t really agree at the time, but I’m coming around:
If the Eagles let the Cowboys into field goal range and that near miss ended up being a miss, that win doesn’t feel quite as good without the authority of that game winning touchdown drive in overtime.
They came close to blocking it, very close.
So then the question becomes what if the miss was due to a block, does it make it better? I would have loved a block to end the game.
nothing will be as good as Sam hitting Matthews for the game winner, it will prove to mean much more going forward then any other way to victory could have I think.
2 guys that needed it most.
Great point. Both were getting torched in the media, and I myself was ripping Matthews for a few weeks.
I’d love ending the game with a block too. Anyway that you can end a game buy coming up big at a key moment is great.
Me too. Something like this against Dallas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtmuf3leQsw
I saw that before and I agree with it as well. Winning a game where luck was clearly against you is pretty nice. Last year were the lucky ones.
If andrew Luck ends up missimg 6 games and that Meh Colts team ends up still making the playoffs, the AFC south will be the worst Division ever… Shame on that division if they allow old man Hasslesnatch to win the division,. Even when our division sucks it’s tougher than that crap division that allows a flawed colts team to dominate Every year..
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Kind of sucks that we don’t have any more division games TIL the last two weeks of the season..Really don’t want to let Shady/Rex and Palmer/pig faced head coach beat us especially in Crunch Time(DECEMBER)… Hopefully immature shady and his Carnaval barker/Charlatan of a head coach run their mouths and say a bunch of ridiculuos nonsense the week leading up to the game and get our locker room extra fired up to not allow shady to Embarress us… Can’t stand to lose to arizona eithet
I can’t be worse that the NFC South last year.
WOW! Smh WOW!!!!
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LOL GREG Hardy is just a cluess jackass! He is the scumbag that keeps on giving.. Clown never learns..
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Wrote a crazy Twitter profile something like “Innocent until proven Guilty, attacking him with lack of information means we are discriminating against poor GREG Hardy”… Lol His Cowboy Babysitter caught it, and changed it quickily, but espn still caught the Donkey Psycho!!
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Poor guy, first he was attacked by a mean little girl, and now everyone is discriminating against Prince Charming…. Lol this idiot still thinks playing the victim is the best way to go about this?
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Its not often that someone in the public eye gets in serious trouble and refuses to even pretend that he is sorry???
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Ed Werder “for the 4th time this season that we know of Jason Garrett had to have a private convo with him about his behavior, and because the owner enabled him, no playërs has ever made Garrett look so weak and helpless”..
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I love you Jerry jones! Never change!
Wow, such a bad look for Garrett almost every other coach in the league will have the power to deactivate his ass but not Garrett, all he can do is talk to him.
Refresh, I added to the post… It gets better! Lol
Focus one game at a time, I get that. But there’s very little margin for error over these next 8 games.
They cannot go less than 6-2 in order to make the playoffs. Frankly, I’d like to see them go 7-1, but I don’t want to ask the world just yet.
Luckily the Giants still have NE, NYJ, Carolina, and Minnesota on their schedules who all present a tough defensive challenge. These teams should score on the Giants defense, which puts them in a position to have to shoot it out.
Our schedule has NE (loss) as the only def loss. Sorry, not ready to say were going into Foxborough and winning a game there. After that, everything is winnable. I think we can beat every other team on the schedule, but I could see us beating AZ but losing to the Redskins. Just because I sometimes think when at the Novacare, the Eagles devise ways to make my blood pressure go up.
Made the edit to 6-2. I can count.
I’m guessing 9-7 takes the division. Might depend on the tiebreakers. 8-8 is not out of the question. We certainly *can* win almost any of the last games, if we avoid the huge mistakes like we mostly did against Dallas, but nothing is a sure thing — they had Matt Cassel as a QB and we barely won. AZ is probably going to give us fits as well, I think we’ll be pretty big underdogs (on merit) for that game. But the Giants basically just got outplayed by Tampa Bay and managed to win — bit lucky (mostly on red zone defense forcing lots of FGs). They are probably going to be pretty uneven the rest of the year. Dallas… may be the best team when Romo comes back in two weeks, but hopefully it will be too late.
I throw division games out the window. Teams know each other and the play is much tougher. Matt Cassel played a great game, which is what he needed to do to give them a shot. But the Dez TD is luck, which should have been a FG. And we gifted them 70+ yards on a KO return where again they had short field.
Dallas isn’t as bad as their record and mistakes have plagued that team. I think we just deflated that team where they might just tank the rest of the year.
But your main point is correct, mistake free football gives us the best chance to win.
The 80-yard return and the way lucky Dez TD were the same drive — really the only two plays of note, so none of that was on the defense really. That was an incredibly stupid pass to throw — that was 1st down if I recall, and they were in field goal range, and he threw up a jump ball and hugely risked not getting any points at all. Just dumb luck that another receiver and the two guys doubling Dez all got tangled up and fell leaving Dez the only person standing. That pass should have been thrown away.
The D did give up two TD drives where there were matchup issues (Carroll on Dez; Jenkins on Beasley) and only adjusted after the TD was scored. Part of that was not getting great pressure on Cassel, so he could wait for guys to come open.
Also looked like Dez pushed off Maragos about,. Probably not serious infraction, but when you call two Phantom INTs that didn’t exist against Maxwell, basically ushering dallas down field so they can get a field goal to force overtime at the end of the game, then I expect that smal push off that led to a TD for Dez also get called…
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Id pay money for that clown Ed Hochuli to never again ref our games. The steroids have gone to his head
Eagles always play worse against back ups, so I beating Cassel instead of Romo was actually more difficult (Joe Webb effect)
Also, Vikings 2013…
…with Matt Cassel.
*Law & Order sound*
All Eagles have to do is keep pace with NY. As long as we beat the Giants the second time around, they’ll need to have a full 1-game lead above us since we’ll always own the first tiebreaker (h2h).
the eagles can beat NE 46-45. no problem.
This would be the best game of the year if that happens. I respect the Hoodie, so I do think we get shut down there. I only want to see them show up and play a tough game that they are competitive throughout. But it’s a tough road to win in NE after the month of Nov. They are brutally tough at home.
nah, it’ll be easy. just score a lot of points and shut down gronk, brady, edleman, amendola, blount, and whoever else comes on.
its pretty obvious this is all setting up for the last game of the season in Jersey.
winner take all.
god that’s going to be stressful.
Id be more nervous about the skins game the week before
don’t worry im nervous about every game
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I expect the loss of Jonathon Hankins to be a massive blow to the Giants run defense which could be run on to begin with…. A team like the Patriots should trample them with #BLOUNTforceTrauma all day long
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I also think we are a nightmare match up for the Giamts., if the Cowboys OL crying about how dominant 91 and our DL is, how can an inferior Giamts OL hold up against us? I love how we match up against them to the point where I get more nervous about playing the skins who are inferior To us and the Giants.. I just think that other than ODB, they struggle to matchup with us all over the field.
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The games I fear are Miami (if jenkins doesn’t play), Patriots, Bills and Cardinals (mainly because I can’t bear to lose to those franchises), and the skins worry me as “the letdown game”… Gotta go at least 3-2 against those 5 teams. 4-1 only losing in Foxborough would be great, because it would make it extremely difficult for the Giants to win the division if we hand them a loss, also beat the skins, having 4 division wins amd sweeping them head to head which gives us all the tiebreakers over them.. Of course we have to handle pur business against teams we are supposed to beat like Tampa, Detroit, and the Giants..
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one Thing Im really hoping for is that the Lions better NOT Fire Caldwell a week or two before they play us on thanksgiving, Last thing we need is a coaching change to give them a temporary boost like we saw in Miami this year
I think some players want their shot at Buffalo and McCoy. I’m sure Ryan will say some stupid things during the week, gearing up the offense a bit more.
I think we beat them. I feel confident about that game. The only 3 games left I don’t are NE, AZ, and Was. For some reason Was seems to play us tough.
Yeah I respect Washngton as a threat more than the Giants for the simple fact that Washington has more OL talent to try and hold up against our DL, where as we.just dominate the Giants OL… Washington also has a betterpass rush than the Giants, unless their one armed bandit, JPP starts to dominate which I don’t expect…. Battle of the trenches and turnovers are just so important to how games unfold
WAS has been pretty quiet, but they’re really not a bad team. That was a crazy game that we could have won, but they also played well.
The game against NE is absolutely winnable.
Maybe one of the other LBs can break Tom’s collarbone? Maybe just a little crack? Don’t want to wish too much harm, even to Mr. Cheater.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/2008/0101/afp20080101p65-f2.jpg
I’d argue (if one of the wins is over NYG) that going 9-7 gets them into the playoffs.
Bwahahaha Greg Hardy just doesn’t stop,.. Some dude tweeted this idiot saying “hey Hardy, can you give me advice lnow to beat my girl? Should I use my right fist, left fist or both? Just kidding, I don’t beat woman like you”
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This fucking Moron was dumb enough to respond to the tweet aomething like “Or you just don’t have a girlfriend, blah blah hashtag loser blah blah’
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How can he be this stupid? How can he not even fake a bit of remorse? This dude is a maniac and nothing seems to get thru to the clueless Pyscho..
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Can’t wait for the day we find out he lost his mind in Practice, got mad, and sacked their fragile 40yr old QB Romo while wearing his red jersey as hard as he can”… If the dude Rex Ryan is making a captain tomorrow night could punch Geno smith,what’s thispsycho caoable of doing to Romo?
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I just hope Jerry Jones insists on keeping Hardy the rest of the year and gives him a big extension, odds are he gets arrested next pffseason, acts like a maniac in training camp and implodes that entire franchise, no one will have a joint practice withthem with that psycho Hardy on the roster..
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I despise GREG Hardy, but at this poïnt I want to see Jerry jones insist on signing him to a long exstension, keep Hardy past tnis season so he can continue to do maximum damage to that disgusting franchise, Til eventually sponsors start pulling out Of their business with cowboy stadium.. A Owner who will continue to put his emtire framchise in the hands of a 40yr old QB who gets hurt Every year, his HEADCASE WR that needs babysitting, and this ticking Time bomb Hardy in the locker room will be the perfect storm of burning that franchise down to the ground… Please don’t let me down Jerry,REWARD HARDY with a FAT Extension, and insist on making him team captain!!!: don’t let us down jerry!
Don’t talk like that about the “leader” of the Cowturds like that man. lol But in all seriousness this guy is not just a total POS, he’s also clearly a moron if he is responding to people on twitter. I am telling my son to troll him repeatedly to see if he can get a response out of him.
Lol no one ever excused him of being bright,,
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He wrote that he is innocent until proven guilty, not having Info makes us ignorants and that he is being discriminated against LOL… All after trying to say that he was,the victim because that mean little girl with the body covered in Bruises beat him up LOL
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Dude isnt even smart enough to pretend that he is sorry smh
No one ever accused him of being bright.
Sorry, the irony was too much to bear.
I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet, but it is the ESPN 30 for 30 Short on Leonard Tose (Eagles former owner). I hadn’t known much about him as I was still pretty little when he owned the team but my pops always spoke about how great an owner he was. Just had lots of problems outside of the game. It is awesome, check it out!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14045796
Yeah, that was sad… dark day when he sold to Braman. Just to cover gambling debts — and he still died penniless. He was the owner during the first Super Bowl in 1980.
You could see how much he met to guys like Jaworski and Vermeil.
He was great up until the point where his poor financial management left us with a threat of the team moving and stuck with Braman.
Great link, thanks. I’m a big fan of the 30 for 30 series and this was a gem. Leonard Tose was class in the same way that Jerry Jones is classless.
Really hoping AC sees this so we can take an even greater step down memory lane! ACViking where ya?
he tried to move the team to Phoenix
I had no idea!
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Didinger-When-The-Eagles-Almost-Left-Philly/b5fa2be4-433b-492c-9a83-546747ff217f
Thanks for that.
ESPN Always manages to annoy me, disrespectful clowns.
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They did the Mid season awards and Jordan Hicks wasn’t even respected as one of the top 4 candidates,, heck his name Wasnt even mentioned as one of the impressive rookies who were left off the list,., disrespectful to the season that kid has had,,,, Leonard Williams won the award, Eric Kendricks was #2..’Ronald Darby was #4… Drawing a blank, can’t remember who was #3.. Both Hicks and Marcus,Peters didn’t make the top 4
Was just watching the same thing I had the same thought. How is Hicks not mentioned at all?
because it is ESPN and sports is the last thing on their mind anymore, they just want to tell us when Lebron took his morning shit, how Tiger Woods’s “comeback” is going and how his breakup with Lindsay Vonn will effect his game, then let’s talk Kobe for 20 minutes yet he’s 3 years past his prime followed by moronic “analysis” from Jaws or Dilfer….Then they finish up with “insider aka Lebron stalker” Brian Windhorst to fill us in on what Lebron had for dinner
So you’re telling me this is ESPN all day lol
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lol pretty much
lol Yea ESPN is absolutely terrible.
A little bitter but probably accurate. ;~)
Have to sprinkle in some Manning,luck or Brady in there
haha for sure….and i am a bit bitter maggie, loved ESPN when i was a kid
Problem is they started employing too many ex football players. Some of these guys don’t have an objective bone in their body.
And then throw in the sensationalism and oversaturation of popular names/stories.
Its not all horrible though
Even more frustrating considering what the kid just did in Primetime
From the Dallas Cowboys Message Board……..
Posted Today, 02:21 PM
It hurt watching the eagles in much better shape than our Cowboys. I wonder if anyone will make fun of the eagles’ college hurry up tempo workouts that Chip Kelly has instilled in Philadelphia now? Why aren’t the Cowboys doing the same?
lol
Poetry.
Our answer will come in the next 3 games. Sweep them and this team is back on track. Go 2-1 and we’re in the mix for a possible division title. Lose 2 or 3 and we’ll need to be back to looking at draft guides for 2016.
This really needs to be 3-0.
Guess it was inevitable:
https://twitter.com/eagles/status/664559010696286209
Brad Jones put some decent money in his pocket this year for hardly playing.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they again flip flop Vandervelde and Jones once Andrews gets healthy again.
That’s my guess, as well.
Can somebody please explain how you can suffer a concussion in a bloody light training session???
Jenkins got a concussion on Sunday. Andrews probably got hit weird.
I have never heard of a player suffering a concussion in training during the season. They don’t hit between the games, do they?
Maybe he looked a little TOO good Sunday, so Peters bounced his head off a locker, just to make sure he is missed
I always wondered the same. Specifically, early in the year, was the defense whipping the offense’s ass in practice?
Some guys naturally have really thick skulls, other guys are less Hardy.
Touche..
November 11.
My Mum. She was from Liverpool and a competitor in ballroom dancing before enlistment. Being an attractive young woman in Britain, where there were thousands of Allied servicemen stationed, she had her choice of suitors. She almost married a Polish pilot and an American soldier! She was accepted into the ATS as soon as she was old enough to lie about her age. Seventeen. She married a Canadian soldier, my Dad, and eventually became a war bride in Canada. My number one hero.
http://ww2today.com/27th-december-1942-the-life-of-an-ats-ack-ack-girl#comment-2619051
Parents wedding day.