Coaching Update
Posted: January 4th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 204 Comments »No real groundbreaking news today. But there are rumors and reports to discuss.
Apparently Mike Shanahan wants to coach the Eagles. I would be shocked if the Eagles even talked to him. Some of you will think I’m nuts because the guy has multiple Super Bowl rings and a good track record. Shanny can coach. But he’s a bit lacking in the personality department.
Shanahan is unbelievably tough on his QBs. He is a perfectionist that holds his QBs to incredibly high standards. Jake Plummer hated dealing with those expectations. Donovan McNabb never realized how much he loved Andy Reid until he went to play for Shanny. RG III and Shanny weren’t together long, but had a very bizarre relationship.
Jeff Lurie fired Chip Kelly in large part for his people skills. There is no way he’s going to turn around and hire a guy that is more awkward than Kelly.
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The Colts might not fire Chuck Pagano. That situation gets weirder and weirder. I can only think that owner Jim Irsay saw how the players responded to Pagano’s speech and had reservations about whether firing him was the right move.
If Colts want to retain Chuck Pagano, which they should've locked him up longterm last yr, they're going to REALLLYY have to do right by him
— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) January 4, 2016
This offseason they insulted him by offering a one year extension at what would pretty much be lowest for HC in NFL
— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) January 4, 2016
We’ll see what happens there.
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This could be good news.
I'm hearing preliminary talks with #Eagles and Fletcher Cox (no surprise) and Vinny Curry. Good chance could play 4-3 D.Line next season
— Howard Eskin (@howardeskin) January 4, 2016
Some people have read this as meaning the Eagles could be planning to move back to the 4-3. That certainly is possible.
But don’t read too much into it.
Vinny Curry isn’t meant to start in the 3-4. He’s undersized for a DE and isn’t a natural OLB. But you have to remember that teams play almost half (or more) of the game in their Nickel or Dime packages. Curry is a great fit in those looks. He can play DE, DT, NT or be used as a stand-up rusher.
The key to this report would be to know what kind of offer the Eagles made to him. 4-3 teams will want him as a starter. They could offer pretty good money for his services. If the Eagles offer him big money, that could be a sign the team wants the new staff to play the 4-3. You aren’t going to pay a role player big money.
I hope the report is true and the Eagles are opening talks, no matter what their plans are. Curry is a disruptive pass rusher and those guys are very valuable. I would hate to lose him.
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The Eagles made a few simple moves today.
#Eagles sign the following seven players to reserve/future contracts. pic.twitter.com/mEDrMW9xrg
— Philadelphia Eagles (@Eagles) January 4, 2016
Two guys from the practice squad weren’t retained, TE Chris Pantale and CB Mike Lee.
Raciti, Bunche and Boyko are the 3 key players on that list. Raciti can play DT in the 4-3 or DE/NT in the 3-4. Bunche and Boyko both project as OGs in the NFL. Bunche was a good run blocker this summer.
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Chip Kelly might be a candidate for the Giants job. Some people are reporting this while others refute it strongly. I hope Chip goes elsewhere. I don’t want him in the division.
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One of the most talked about candidates for Eagles head coaching position Sean McDermott will join @975Mornings tmrw in between 8 and 830!
— 975TheFanatic (@975TheFanatic) January 5, 2016
That could be really interesting to listen to. McDermott is an interesting possibility. His tenure with the Eagles didn’t end well, but I don’t know what kind of relationship he has with Jeff Lurie. They might still be friendly. We’ll see. Should make for a good listen in the morning.
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why would shawn call in like that?
agent trying to drum up interest show connection w/ city, etc. For a guy that’s available during bye week haven’t heard anything about eagles being interested.
yeah but that wont help him get an interview tho, doubt lurie goes, “oh, well shawn was on the fanatic today, hmmmm i should interview him.” lol that decision should be already made. imo
I took this as another team might think we are interested in a guy they might like. I could see him in cleveland
The next coach no matter how good he may be needs to get it right at the DC position. So while we’re all focused on the next possible HC I would really like to know who are the possible up and comers with regards to DC. This is a mmot point if the eagles higher a defensive guru as HC but most signs point to the eagles hiring an offensively minded DC
an offensively minded defensive coordinator?.. GENIUS!! I like it!! lol
Juan Castillo?
Eher has JC been anyway?
Baltimore I believe.
Edit: yup, Baltimore as their Oline coach.
I guess they don’t see the genius in him like AR did…
Rob Ryan was an offensive DC. Come to think of it, Billy Davis was pretty offensive this year, too.
BD still here? Maybe he’ll be offensive for another year?
I believe Juan Castillo fits that description.
Oops, late to that joke
This was probably reported as you were typing this up:
Alex Marvez
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Not sure if out there but another name I’m hearing on @Eagles HC radar for an interview is @TBBuccaneers OC Dirk Koetter @NFLonFOX
well they did throw 5tds on us.
The shorter list may be coaches the Eagles are NOT interested in here soon.
Yeah, I’ll cover that in a post on Tuesday.
Wasn’t he on the list last time?
Thoughts on someone bringing back the Tampa 2 defense with an under front for the base defense? I think Hicks has the versititlity needed for the MLB position and can be a strong asset with his coverage skills. The under front can utilize Cox and Curry very effectively allowing them to play the run on their way to the qb.
Monte Kiffin isn’t doing anything
hes playing cards at the retirement home
Been asleep at least for 2 hours now if he is on EST
Those are incompatible. Tampa 2 is an over front
Wow, the Colts extended Pagano.
This almost certainly means Grigson is out. I’d put the odds at 60% that he’s the next VP of Player Personnel in Philly.
please…..no
But he’s terrible though ?
Isn’t this the guy that traded a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson?
Oh he knows.
Not saying I’d want him, but he and Roseman are best friends. Yes, Howie has friends!
My bullshit theory is this… Luck went to the owner and said i want Pagano back, and Irsay says what ever keeps you happy Andrew.
I hope Irsay played hardball and forced Luck to shave that awful beard.
Hahaha – conversation goes like this… I will resign Pagano and give you that $100mil guaranteed $30mil a year contract you want… but the beard has to go.
Luck – “How about $75Mil guaranteed and $25M a year and i keep the beard?”
Deal
They realized their roster was shit, Grigson is the problem, and they luck boxed into the best coach available this off-season. (that wasn’t available to anyone else unfortunately).
dumb move by the colts, players might love pagono, but they could have their pick at HCs to pair with Luck.
I dont’t want Shanny either, but he sure did get the most out of his QBs and the run game.
id rather hire his son at this point
Shanahan always struck me as a perfect guy to play a Nazi in a TV/movie show. Missed his shot with not being cast in the ‘Man In the High Castle’
Thank the lord, Grigson is staying in Indy too. Don’t have to navigate that landmine.
That…doesn’t seem smart. The Grigson/Pagano match just doesn’t seem to work well.
Perhaps, but maybe all the talk about Grigson that was coming out of the Indy press was fabricated.
Unless they tanked on purpose….
Too bad for Luck and Pags.
That’s doubly good for us. 1. we don’t have grigson 2. we have a trading partner.
I remember when you would have to wait for the newspaper the next day after Kotite was fired to see what coach Lurie was possibly interested in hiring.
Just the mention of a name in one of the main beat writers columns in the Daily News or Inquirer would have buzz all week including getting discussed on the ‘The Great Sports Debate’ on the long-defunct PRISM.
Now a name gets throw out there on Twitter, it gets picked up, and all of the sudden it gets linked to Eagles. I think I have seriously heard about 18 names already mentioned. Nuts.
Good analysis. I don’t follow twitter for this reason.
What was great about then is that people reported on what the reporters, as journalists, unearthed. You didn’t have this nonsense of one guy reporting something, then another guy reporting what that first guy said as if the reporting itself was the news. The dog-wagged-by-tail nature of sports news today is nuts.
first guy reports it and then everyone says “per sources” like the whole world isn’t on twitter
My favorites are Eskin and GCobb. Reporting everything a day late since 2007!
Anyone here have the Skins winning this weekend?
me….Packers in a bad funk
K making sure I’m not the only one
As much as it hurts to say.
I don’t even mind the Redskins that much its the Giants and Cowboys I hate, plus they have Desean
Their offensive line stinks…or it’s injured and their backups stink, but they picked a bad time to play their worst football.
Sitton plays guard, but had to move to LT with Bakhtiari injured…..it has not gone well.
The playcalling has been suspect all season, at times the run game goes nowhere, at times it does well but then it’s quickly abandoned……speculation that the coaching staff thinks Lacy is overweight again. Rodgers does have stretches where he goes into a slump, but when he’s hot there isn’t anyone better but he’s been playing beneath his abilities for a long stretch now. Davante Adams has been a huge disappointment this season, Jordy Nelson is a bigger piece of that offense than people thought.
Who do u like in the other games?
I’m leaning that way. Green Bay isn’t doing so well.
Jeez. I really hope the team doesn’t go back to a 3-4. Would impair special teams. Still hoping to hear about McDaniels being interviewed. He’s good with tempo, good with Bradford and great with offense. He’s made Julian Edelman into an essential member of the offense!
Actually 3-4 teams are typically better on STs because they have more LBs on their roster.
don’t think this is true
Since he said “go back to”, I imagine he meant to say 4-3.
Somebody did a study when we first hired Chip and proved it was pure BS that he was saying.
Also the Eagles had perfectly great STs under Reid and Harbaugh
Chip said that, but we had top special teams units here for years with Harbaugh while running a 4-3.
That was my point, I meant to say doesn’t go back to a 4-3.
I hope Chip ends up with the Giants. How much fun it would be to see him try and get Manning to run the quick tempo. We’ll see the Eli Face all game long. He’ll hate Odell. Wait until JPP learns he’ll be playing in a 3-4. My hunch is the Mara family will want someone with more of a resume than a bag of tricks.
I think it’s a big mistake for people to think Chip can’t and won’t adjust. I would like to see him & RG3 end up together somewhere, like Cleveland or SF. Him battling Arians & Carrol twice a year would be great rivalry games.
Actually people that believe that Kelly can’t adjust are working on three years of empirical evidence. Can he adjust? Maybe?
‘Xactly that.
His halftime adjustments are usually pretty good.
Not running the read option with Sam Bradford as your QB was an adjustment I would have liked to have seen.
I mean other teams in the NFL manage to have a running game without requiring the QB to freeze the backside linebacker, right?
I think Billy D’s halftime adjustments were better lol
think chip will change the culture stuff if he gets another job. don’t see him changing tempo or his spread offense too much.
Pagano…I don’t get it. Embarrassed by the franchise n stays. Maybe it’s pride in his players over his own pride.
$ + what other job is he going to get? easy division generally, franchise qb, etc.
yeah, there’s only 32 of them and they pay pretty well.
yes they do. Colts offered him to be the lowest paid out of all of them – which is a slap in the face…
NY? There are a few teams looking for a HC. From my distant view, he’s not a bad guy. If you’re constantly fighting with your boss – is it really worth it?
I’ve been on the Bradford train, but considering the start to the season – I think he’ll be around.
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/status/684026062272086016
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/status/684026062272086016
Are those passes that went for more than 40+ yards, or receptions that went for 40+ yards thanks to YAC after Bradford threw the ball 10 yards?
Both? Either way, that is a good number. Might have had more if not for the drops.
Yeah, but Bradford as the 4th most downfieldingest passer in the NFL just doesn’t pass the eye test.
Bradford played well the last 7-8 games he played. I don’t know how much more he could have done.
Yes, he played well. He wasn’t great.
A few weeks ago, someone did a piece on Bradford’s excellent 6 game stretch and they compared it to the best 6 games stretches of other QBs this year. Bradford’s 6 game stretch ranked 24th in the league.
(I wish I could remember where I read that article so I could link it)
His last 7 games were good. We saw a player improve throughout the year, and he could well still get better. A new OC won’t help though.
His Y/A for the first 7 games: 6.46, 6.05, 4.21, 9.64, 7.40, 7.35, 4.46.
His Y/A for his last 7 games: 8.19, 9.44, 5.00, 6.50, 8.80, 6.79, 8.42.
Definite progress there as well. He was very much in checkdown mode early in the year (and inaccurate enough to prevent lots of YAC), but he improved in that aspect as the year went on. I think that was a 7.6 Y/A over the last 7 games… which would rank 10-13 or so for starting QBs. I thought he’s gotten better over those seven games as well, so there is hope this isn’t his peak either. First impressions often stick, but in this case it was a guy coming off 1.5 years away from the field, maybe not trusting his knee, and playing behind a not-so-good OL. So, I am prepare to ignore the early season results and concentrate on the last 7. He was consistent in those seven games too — not up and down.
I wonder how his last 6 games would hold up, since they were some of his best.
Any 40+ pass counts (could be 5 yrds thru air or even -1 thru air).
I think both count, and I am pretty sure they counted the same for all QBs.
Also, how about his completions of 40+ yards/plays run ratio? Perhaps the number of plays run by the Eagles is causing that stat anomaly.
With the horrible ability to maintain drives do we even stand above the rest of the league in plays run?
The one yard swing ass helps his completion % none when they drop it which happens….. a 3rd of the time lol
Honestly don’t get the Sam haters at this point
Catching up on the news late guys. Anyway, here’s another bit that I find highly interesting. Question: Do we think Chip gets a job in the NFL this year? Question 2: I guess this means he likes Kapernick?
https://twitter.com/MattLombardo975/status/683990013097472000
knows gamble. SF has 34 D and Colin.
A perfect setup for him.
it helps that Gamble is there
well played.
Reading York’s comments about their coaching search, they seem to indicate to me that he was strongly considering Kelly. I don’t have the exact quote but he basically said that he was looking for coaches that could win Super Bowls not ones who are sociable that you’d be comfortable in a room with.
Hmmm, interesting for sure.
I think it was more along the lines of the media sort of prodding him for letting Harbs go. Basically chiding him for getting rid of a coach that could win it for them that wasn’t someone he could get along with.
Just makes me wonder what we don’t know. If the whole league thinks he is “toxic” there has to be more we don’t know that the league does.
Yeah. I agree. Usually you want teams chasing you.
So LA is definitely getting a team. Out of these three, here’s how they stack up.
Oakland: $1.43 Billion
St. Louis: $1.45 Billion
SD: $1.525 Billion
Of the three, Oakland has the bigger media market since it’s combined with SF. After that it’s St. Louis, then SD.
IMO – It’s going to come down between the Rams and Chargers. I lean Chargers, because you could probably still get everyone in SD to watch the LA media market.
But LA having a team will generate a ton more money for the league in ad/tv revenue – and everything is decided on what the return is. My two cents.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/684215822852698112
I hope not the Rams. California does not need another team.
and foles deserves to be stranded in middle america…
Rams make the most sense. They’re originally an LA team, and they fit perfectly in the NFC West.
Well, technically they were in Cleveland first, for a decade or so.
Ian Rapoport
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#Colts owner Jim Irsay said Chuck Pagano said he wanted to make sure he’s tied at the hip with GM Ryan Grigson. Stunning turnaround.
Next news, Eagles re-hire Kelly, Chip and Howie hug it out, and film a buddy cop movie over the summer.
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Guess this is a tribute to the quality of the NFL media.
Schefty is the only guy i trust
Then u already trust too many.
Interesting theory in St. Louis that the Rams will use the 2nd round pick they acquired from the Eagles in the Bradford deal to try and make a deal with the Saints for Sean Payton
be smart, but wouldn’t they have to fire everyone?
I don’t think Rams fans would miss Jeff Fisher or anyone involved with that coaching staff
He is really hated
Worried he interviews here
If Fisher gets hired, I’ll watch disdainfully.
actually now that i did some half-assed research, Gregg Williams is their DC, the same Gregg Williams that won a SB with Payton in NO. Wonder if the Nfl allows them to work together again after the bountygate incident
very interesting, but no QB. good defensive peices
Watch him go to St Louis and sign Bradford in free agency.
Wow, the Colts extended both Pagano AND Grigson? lmao
Suckers…
Irsay must’ve gave them all some ecstasy and made them sign contracts right after
lol
Football coach priorities are weird man.
anyone know how shurmur’s interview went? not sure why i like him so much. maybe b/c i liked chip and thing team is generally in a good spot.
I saw on Twitter that Ike Reese thinks he’s got a good shot at the job.
No way is Ike Reese our new head coach. He didn’t even get an interview.
I don’t dislike Shurmur, but I think he has a lot of the qualities Howie is looking for (been humbled enough to swallow what the FO feeds him, knows X’s & O’s as well as anyone, old enough to be the daddy these young players seem to want) I think he is the back-up plan to Payton.
The only player who has asked for a father figure is 34 year old Jason Peters.
I feel like like there’s a new strain of the wacky tabacky in Indy.
I think Roseman must have passed on his secret mind-control powers to Grigson. Okay, here’s how you hypnotize your owner to supporting you no matter what….
Like Kilgrave – if everyone here gets the reference.
With Irsay, more likely to be pills.
Irsay & Johnny F need to share a cab back to rehab, stat.
Trent Richardson: the only draft bust to cost TWO 1st round picks…
RG3???
Didn’t he cost three?
not bad for a 50yr old.
Really nice career. I’m glad he got to finish where he started.
I thought he started at corner?
(I know, I know…)
Wow.
Thats insane.
I do not trust the did not allow a TD crap, because how do you assign blame if you do not know the play call, checks etc.?
Jenkins is often the safety in the NFL who gives up the most yards and TD, but that is because he is the safety in the NFL who is asked to cover the most.
I really doubt Woodson was asked to cover slot WRs regular or at all
Bolts fired WR coach Fred Graves — be interested to give him a look here — charges wrs have developed nicely.
As long as we fire Bicknell I’ll be happy…
That’s an interesting idea. Just look at how the best QB’s have struggled without their star wideouts/Gronk. Look at how we struggled with our subpar WR play all season, as did Detroit. Perhaps a WR whisperer is equal to or greater than a QB whisperer. The Bucs and Jets are some nice examples of what can happen with great WR play.
But why are they canning their WR coach? San Diego has been hot garbage this season.
so mike mccoy can keep his job.
Anyone else thinking that Jordan Matthews probably doesn’t stay in the slot with a new coach?
I think it would be interesting to see Huff there, with Agholor and Matthews on the outside.
being in slot means he rarely faces top corners. but it’d be nice if everyone moved around. ags could be nice in the slot, his acceleration is crazy.
Yeah that little shake and accelerate move he put on last game was wild, his burst is really nice. Shame it was such a dysfunctional season, cant help but think that affected a lot of guys.
Matthews is not meant for the outside imo, simply cant seperat enough
Nuk Hopkins ran a 4.57.
Allen Robinson ran a 4.60
The new coach is going to have to work on his route running, but he’s at worst a big possesion WR2 type.
True, but as you said its not about speed but route running. What I saw of him in college, he had problems against college CBs in seperating, so not sure how he can against NFL CBs
Matthews lacks speed to threaten over the top but he was a good route runner in college. (So was Ags, seriously Bicknell should be coaching NAIA next year)
NFL dot com scouting report
Strengths Good length. Big zone target. Good form as a route runner. Sinks his hips and pops out of breaks. Concentrates, tracks and adjusts. Soft hands and sticky fingers. Has leaping ability to compete
in the air. Opens up his stride in the clear and shows nice long speed. Good field awareness. Gives effort as a blocker. Competes and plays with intensity. Tough and intelligent. Lined up outside and inside and has punt-return experience. Team captain and four-year starter with record-setting production.
Bottom Line Matthews is a tall, narrow-framed, West Coast possession receiver with soft hands, a professional approach and the versatility to line up inside or outside and become a solid No. 2 or No.
3. High-floor prospect.
“Soft hands and sticky fingers”
Disagree on this one coming out. He had a terrible drop rate in college.
But I was never a big fan of him coming out.
Think that was more about his ability to make tough contested catches rather than lack of drops. They note drops in the weakness category ” Lets some throws into his body and is not immune to concentration drops”
I remember this board having lengthy conversations about his drops. Lots of people said that was fixable. Maybe it still is. Including the last game of the season, ball went threw his hands on a wide open play. I think ‘concentration’ is key. After that whiff, he seemed to make sure he secured the ball the rest of the game…
He’s never going to be a guy who catches everything. But he’s also not Ted Ginn or Darius Heyward Bey where you’re not hopeful even if it hits them right in the hands.
Good player. If we ever get a true number 1 we’ll have a great group.
I think he can be a good 1A type. If you can get Ags to turn into the Maclin clone he was supposed to be along with Ertz up the seam, I don’t think you necessarily need a top 10 true number 1 WR.
He’s never gonna be guy who can shake a cheetah in a phonebooth but he can be pretty darn good.
The walkoff TD was against Byron Jones who isn’t exactly a slouch.
On the play where Agholor caught the ball and then collided heads with the Giants DB….did you see that burst he showed? I have not seen that all year. I have hopes that the worst WR per PFF can help us next year with the coaching change. I have pretty much given up on Huff as a weapon
Agholor has stone hands
He does – but he was considered by NFL experts as a safe pick and “plug in and play” WR. I don’t blame them for the pick. However, all of our receivers – all of them – have stone hands to a degree. I say new head coach and re-evaluate.
He likely moves outside and plays more of a classic possession WR2 type role. Kick Huff inside, let exploit holes in zone across the middle and then use his RAC skills.
How do Jeff Fisher and Gus Bradley still have jobs?
It’s like those teams are just so scared of becoming Cleveland that they’re happy to wallow in their mediocrity…
I would be Risk Averse too when it comes down to becoming Cleveland lolol
Jags have shown a level of progression. QB looks like he might be good enough.
Why not give the HC the chance to see the job through?
I don’t get where this myth comes from.
They’re 4-12, 3-13, and 5-11 over the last three years in the worst division in football (yes, even worse than the NFC East).
Bradley was a well-regarded defensive coordinator, yet the Jags’ defense is still miserable, even in year three.
Just because they managed to draft a QB who isn’t a complete blank, the HC should be allowed to keep his job in perpetuity?
Where is this “level of progression”?
And Bortles’ performance is helped by the fact that he is playing against prevent defenses for 3/4 of the game. He’s not winning you anything but draft picks.
The Jags chose to build thru the draft. When you make that committment, it requires a level of patiemce. If you aren’t willing to be patient, then don’t build thru the draft and take your chances with free agency which im not a fan of..
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Other than signing Julius Thomas, they have been Discaplined in buildimg via the draft, so I would find it pretty stupid to fire GuS right now, especially since Injuries have really hurt that team early in the yeàr.
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GUs has No GM power. it’s not his fault Dante Fowler got hurt right after they drafted him… It’s not GUs Fault that they drafted Marqus Lee who they dubbed the White Tiger, because seeing him iis so rare…
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Unless the Jags we’re going to be super aggressive in free agency, whoever they hired was going to need YEARS before they could build that franchise back up.. With the roster given to him by the GM, doubt hiring any other coach would have changed the Jags past 3 seasons signifcantly
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I actually respect the Jags for tryng to do it right, not take any foolish short cuts, invest Patiemce into building it right, thru the draft…
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Firing coaches for the sake of firing a coach is foolish. Unless you think some other coach could have won significantky more games with the roster given to GUs, Im not sure why they would want to fire him at this stage.. At least they had enough self awarness to understand that their rebuild would require patience instead of firing a coach after every non winning season like the Browns.
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I can’t sit here and tell you that I know that GUs is a great coach, but I’m impressed that the Jags are finally tryimg to build the right way, and firing a coach because the GM needs more than 3 years to build that team up, seems foolish to me….
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Unless you think other coaches could have significantky won more games with the roster handed to GUs, no idea why you think he should be fired…
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Gus and Jeff Fisher are two very different types of coaches, one is a young coach who a GM understands needs to be given patiemce to grow into the coach they think he,can… Jeff Fisher is a stale, recycled coach, who has had YEARS in St. Louis, was given an absolutely STACKED defensive roster, and has done a terrible job..
But that’s kind of my point. The best thing you can say about Gus Bradley is that they haven’t fired him yet. Which would be great if having the longest-tenured coach was the goal.
This isn’t a Cleveland situation, where they replace their entire front office and coaching staff every year. Gus has had three years to show SOME sort of improvement. And he’s shown none.
Your entire defense of him hinges on their drafting, but as you point out, he has no GM powers, so that’s a completely separate issue in regards to coaching. He was hailed as a great defensive coach, yet their defense is awful. They just fired their DC. And their offense? They just lost 30-6 to the Hoyer-led Texans. Bortles was terrible.
So what has Gus Bradley brought to their team? What is their identity? The only people I see defending him are people who don’t follow the team, who aren’t invested.
I mean, I get that a team doesn’t want to fire their coach every year, but he’s had THREE, and he’s gone from 4-12 to 5-11 in that time. He’s had his chance. He’s a bust. They’ll fire him next year and will have squandered a year of Bortles’ development.
Many issues at hand. Support from owner, via ( free agency / player acquisition ), is possibly one.
# 1 team with salary cap money available in 2015 – is the Jacksonville Jaguars @ $ 76 million.
Example of support other coaches get, via spending on ( free agency / player retention. )
# 17 team in salary cap money available in 2015 – the Philadelphia Eagles @ $ 24 million.
Doing the math – that’s approx. $ 50 million dollar difference.
What does $ 50 million by, in contracts ?
CB – Darrelle Revis – $ 14 million avg.
OLB – Justin Houston – $ 17 million avg.
LT – Joe Thomas – $ 12 million avg.
That = $ 43 million in cap space / contracts ?
How would that impact / change that teams – win / loss record ? Would those type of players make Gus a better coach ?
Chip 3 years — 10, 10 and 7 wins. Fisher 4 years — 7, 7, 6 and 7. CK gets run out of town like he’s the devil and Fisher gets chances after chances. 20 years coaching, 6 of them above .500. He hasn’t seen more than 8 wins since 2008….
Were talkin bout ” emotional intelligence ” not winning record ! Somebody from the NFL media, wrote a article stating that Lurie should hire ……. Dr. Phil. LOL !!
hmmmm, a possible switch back to the ol’ 43 defense?
4-3 under! 4-3 under!
our d line would be sick!
In non-Eagles news, JJ Watt finishes with 17.5 sacks leading the league again as a 3-4 DE. If Clowney had worked out that would be the most fearsome pash rush in the league. Watt and Cox as your DEs would be a defense to carry a super bowl winner.
Im not sure it is fair to call Watt a 3-4 DE by more than name. The way he lines up reminds more of a 4-3 DE
I havent kept up with the Texans D this year but I know in the past he was a 3-4 DE, my mistake.
He has always been a 3-4 DE in Wade Phillips type 3-4 Under where the DE is 1 gapping.
PFF tracks where players line up (one of the few things PFF is worth of) and Watt’s usage was similar to Justin Tuck or JPP.
Watt is a great player, but no need to make him greater by putting 3-4 DE into it.
Fair enough. 1 gap or no I think its more impressive to do it the way he did than flying off the edge every snap, but maybe thats just me.
I think the greatest part about Watt has been his consistency each year.
The only negative I can point to is that he gets 4 games against 2 of the most sacked QBs in Luck and Bortles each year and the Titans aint great either
no the greatest part is his humility.
Maybe they’re the most sacked QBs each year because they play Watt 4 times.
Clowney spends a lot of time laying down on the job.
[…] Coaching Update – Iggles BlitzVinny Curry isn’t meant to start in the 3-4. He’s undersized for a DE and isn’t a natural OLB. But you have to remember that teams play almost half (or more) of the game in their Nickel or Dime packages. Curry is a great fit in those looks. He can play DE, DT, NT or be used as a stand-up rusher. The key to this report would be to know what kind of offer the Eagles made to him. 4-3 teams will want him as a starter. They could offer pretty good money for his services. If the Eagles offer him big money, that could be a sign the team wants the new staff to play the 4-3. You aren’t going to pay a role player big money. […]
1. Payton
2. Gase
3. Jackson
4. McDermott
Payton and Jackson have more respect around the NFL and might be able to bring in better assistant coaches.
Sixers starting to win a little too often
Relax… We don’t even want the #1 pick, Brandon Ingram is the PRIZE!!!!! We,thought we wanted Wiggins,but Ingram will go on to blow him away in terms of pro career..
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I assume a Kings implosion is in the near future, If the Kings win the lottery and move ahead of us, we force them to swap picks with us ..
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Sixers are going to get a top pick, Enjoy a rare win, we will be fine at the end of the year, and the top pic SIMMONS plays a positipn we would be dumb to draft. What’s next, draft Center Harry Giles next year when he is the top player in the draft?
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Embiid, Jah, Noel, HOLMES is a baby Monster, Saric, Grant…. Our front court is more than set, leave Ben Simmons alone and invest heavily in our backcourt
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Enjoy the Kentucky/LSU game tonight… Oklohoma vs Kansas was amazing last night
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Brandon Ingram is a special player, and I bet he will be 6″11 by the time he is done growing. An 18yr old freshman who makes scoring in college look so damn easy, rebounds, great Shotblocker for a wing defender, like Grant..
After two years of not winning the lottery, if we are out of the top 2 this year the process may have been right but the results will have not gone our way. So I’m not sure how I should just relax.
When it’s all said and done, we will have drafted some of the best young talent to enter the NBA over a 5 yeàr stretch, so when this era of players reach their prime, we should have one of the best collections of Talent in the league…. Of course a lot will happen before then, some of the players we drafted will be traded away before we get to their prime..some top picks will pan out, and some later picks like Richaun HOLMES will prove to be steals..
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Obviously I’m hoping we land in the top 2. But even if we finish with the worst record in the league, unfortunately it won’t GUARENTEE a top two pick because of the Lottery, but realistically its probably going to be hard for us to land out of the top #4 and even at #4, we are sure stockpiled with assets that could entice a team into trading down two spots.
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I will say that after being so bad for so many years, yet NEVER finishing with the worst record, I hope this is the year we finally give ourself the best odds by finishing dead last, and while we won 3 of the last 6 games, I don’t expect us to come roaring back and go on to win 25 games… Now that we are starting to play better, teams should take us more serious instead of screwing around knowing they can flip the switch at halftime and crush us in the second half
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While Today, Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram sit on top of the rest as the top prizes in this draft, there are more than two players in this draft that can become valuable additions that improve us going forward. the NBA draft, in the 1 and done era is not about drafting the kid who will be rookie of the year next year, it’s about finding the players who will grow into the best players when they reach their Primes, and as much as I adore Ingram, and as talented as Ben Simmons is, they may not be the best player to come out of this draft 5 years from now…. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see Dragan Bender grow into a better player than The great Kristaps Pirzingis everyone Raves about these days, and we have so many picks, along with Saric and EMBIID joining us this summer, that I could see tons of value in Drafting Bender outside of the top 2 even if we have to wait a year or two for him to join us…. I also feel like AMERICA has been sleeping on Jaylen Brown, and east coast fans just ARENT seeing much of Cal which is allowing a top talent like Jaylen Brown to fly under the radar… It wouldn’t be the end of the world for me if we add a Justin Winslow type of Uber atgletic, defensive minded Wing, Jaylen Brown
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Jamal Murray is also a guy I would love to see us add. Playing for a 3 point guard starting lineup in Ketucky is keeping him from really puttimg his game on Full display, the way Fullltime Poïnt Guards like Kris Dunn and Romelo Trimble are able to since they get to run their teams as the ONLY PG in charge… I think Jamal Murray would look exponentially better if he got to run the show as THE PG, instead of having to coexist with PG’s Isiah Briscoe who I love, and Tyler Ulis who is a fantastic College PG.. However, although I feel like his situation at Kentucky keeps him from displaying his full game, it’s probably good for his development that he is being forced to learn to contribute in other ways since he doesn’t have the ball in his hands all game like typical starting PGs,,, I expect Murray to grow into a better PG than EVERYONEs favorite over rated Deangelo Russell
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I’m on pins and needles all year hoping we are able to get our hands on Brandon Ingram, but Hinkie has done such a good job of positioning us in a way we can stockpile one of the best collections of talemt that will enter the NBA in a 5year stretch, while also stockpiling assets to give us the firepower to have a shot at being able to trade up a spot or two if we are really desperate for a player..
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The Good News is that even without Simmons or Ingram, we are still going to be able to add more top youmg talent this summer than any other team. from This season to Next season, we should see significantly more growth than any previous year in the Hinkie era…. Even without a top 2 pick, HINKies track record in the draft makes me feel good that he will still be able to improve this team significantly on draft night even if we have to pick third or fourth..
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This season, when we were watching a 1-30 start, I still had no doubts we would see signifcant growth the second half of this season. it was pretty Logical, not only did we start the season with a roster full of 19-22 year olds, but to make matters worse, our kids we’re learning to play with 5-6 new first year sixers.. So not only were we younger than every other team, we were working thru being one of the teams that changed the roster the most since Last year, which is especially hard to do when you are talking about Babies having to learn to play together..this team was always going to show big second half of the season improvements, but I’m still comfortable that these improvements won’t produce enough wins to screw us in the draft lottery
BTW, doing Business with The kIngs will easily prove to be the best move of Hinkie’s entire career… Forget the fact that Stauskas can grow into a nice role player even if his early year struggkes make that hard for people to see.. But doing Business with a Kings team that has a HEADCASE of a Franchise player, who doesn’t mesh well with George Karl, and have decided to add another HEADCASE Rondo into the combustible situation, under the cloud of constant pressure of playing in the stacked western confrence… Basically the Kings trade came down to a Gamble. The SIXERS gambled on the Kings not being able to escape picking towards the top of the next 3 drafts with a combustible roster in a stacked western Confrence, and the Kings gambled that with the cap space provided by this SIXERS trade, that they will be able to improve so much, that it won’t be a big deal that HINKies Will have them by the balls in the next 3 drafts because they plan on winning so many games that their draft picks won’t be valuable picks at the top of the draft… Lol I think Vlade Divac and the Kings made an EPIC MISTAKE that will cripple the Kings for at least 5 more years..
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If the Kings miss the playoffs, we will have two teams in the lottery, double our Chances of winning one of the top 2 picks in the lottery since we can force them to swap picks with us… If we improve as much as I think we can next year, and the Kings end up with a top 3 pick, swapping us will HURT them BIGTIME, make it harder to improve their roster for the following year when they will owe us their draft pick alltogether
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the Kings Trade, and trading MCW for the Lakers pick will prove to be HUGE for this franchise
Good,news, bad,news, news I don’t know how to interpret, certainly not a boring time of year..
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The Good News: Colts extended Pagano, you dont want to have to compete with a team that has andrew Luck for the services of a HC.
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The highly respected Chris Mortenson claims that he is 99% sure that LURIE, hOwie, and Smolenski will hire a GM, which contradicts everything we have heard in philly. I would love for this to be true, but I have a feeling Mort got this one wrong, and the guy we hire will be Marynowitz replacement, not a,GM…
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Long time Titans TE Frank Whycheck claims that the Titans won’t let Chip kelly anywhere near Mariota and that there is no chamce of chip coaching the Titans.
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Not sure what is true or false, but allegedly Chips camp is the one starting all these rumors, and that teams haven’t been interested in Chip…
Pagano is indeed good news. Incredible that he would sign on to stay.
Why would the Titans think that, and why would their TE be privy to such information.
ISNT he involved in Tennessee media these days? I’m not sure… But I would assume that if he is wrong, now that the season is over we should see Titans schedule an interview for chip in the very near future..
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One would think that the Titans would jump at the opportunity to bring Chip in to coach Marcus.. If they are interested, I would think Chip would be one of the first people the Titans interiew, especially since he hit the open market a week before all the other coaches, If the Titans dont interview chip in the next 7 days, I would assume that means Frank was right…
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has ANY team scheduled an interview with Chip yet? Every bit of news I saw says “Chip REACHED out to (insert team name)”…
Is McDermott interviewing in the bye week?
I could be on board for McDermott HC, Shurmur OC
Why are people against Chip going to the Giants? I WISH!!!
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can you imagine the pathetic Giants defense with the added stress chips offense puts on a defense?
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I can see it now, BREAKING NEWS: Giants head coach Chip Kelly has waived Odell Beckham because his blonde hair is too flamboyant… What’s this? More BREAKING News? ODB goes on to sign with Giants Rivals, Philadelphia Eagles… It would be glorious
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Love to see chip go to the Giants, it would bring so much added fun to the division, and we probably would have a lot of playërs motivaed on icky Chips Giants ass!
Heard an interesting opinion about Chip comparing him to Chan Gaily, a good football mimd who’s shortcomings were that he couldn’t build relationships with playërs and that Chip won’t get many more chances in this league if he doesn’t learn to play well with others, Brian Billick won a Super Bowl, yet can’t get a job in the NFL because of his reputation for not playing well with others. Mike Martz career nose dived and he allegedly didn’t get along with anyone
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Also found something Demarco said as telling, when he was asked about what he would want in a new coach, he talked about not only Intelligence, but he also mentioned EMOTIONAL intelligence, a coach who connects with his players….
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I don’t believe the “we need a father figure” crap… But I also can’t sit here and act like its not important to have a coach that makes 53 players go out and fight for him… A successful HEADCoach needs to be a Leader of Men, who can unite a team, and galvanize the troops to fight for each other. It’s NOT good enough if Chip could get half the players to want to play for him, but fail to reach the other half of the players.. I don’t believe in father figure crap, but I also view it as a big limitation if you can’t emotionally connect with your players. I hate the crap chip used to say about it not being his job to have to motivate Grown men, what a crock of shit, go tell that to Super Bowl coaches like Mike Tomlin or new head coaches like Bruce Arians.. A Head Coach is supposed to be a LEADER, and MOTIVATING is a big part of being a leader… You can be a very smart football coach, but if you DONT think its important to build relationships with your players, how can that not be flawed thinking?
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Refusing to use emotional connections as tools to get the most out of your players is a limitation, just like its a limitation to only line up in shotgun, just like its a limitation to not see situations where tempo is doing more harm than good..
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I actually still believe Chip could become a fantastic pro coach, but I’m not sure his ego will allow Him to make changes in his is approach that limited him in Philly. if Chip is willing to make signifcant changes in his approach to coaching A Pro Team, then some team will get a good headcoach… If Chip is so stubborn and his ego won’t allow Him to make changes because he can’t stomach everyone who said his college methods won’t work, being proven correct, than a team that hires him will have made a big mistake.
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Chip has to decide what is more important? Being a successful pro coach? Or proving that he can reinvent the wheel at the pro level? ITs really up to chip. He can be very successful at this level, but it would require some dramatic changes that im not sure his ego will allow him to make
Look who his two best buds are bb and saban.