2nd Half – PHI 21 , NYG 20
Posted: January 3rd, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 720 Comments »What is wrong with this team?
In a “must lose game” the Eagles have a long TD run by DeMarco Murray, a TFL by Kiko Alonso and a sack by Marcus Smith. How are you supposed to lose a game when that stuff happens?
Pat Shurmur needs to give a spirited “53 Mediocre Men” speech at halftime. Focus on Jordan Matthews big drop, Sam Bradford’s INT and porous run defense. Ask for more of that. Plead if you must. Let them know what is on the line and that winning simply isn’t an option.
Go Giants!!!
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T-Law:
Here’s a highball to you . . . the last 2nd-half thread ’til 9/16.
53 neutered men speech under way
Since they are likely 53 Disinterested Men at this point, no one is listening.
Marcus Smith is showing everyone why D3FB said he was a good choice.
Sometimes you gotta just let guys play and figure it out. Especially if they have talent. I have a feeling that it has had something to do with the Kelly/Roseman who drafted who argument.
Yea im all for big egos unless they get in the way of actually trying to win
If that’s the case, then Kelly may be the pettiest HC in Philadelphia since Buddy Ryan.
he’s pretty petty
Did you see the article that Greg Richards posted?
about the X-mas party?
About threatening to get rid of Jordan Matthews for spinning the ball.
well, he did keep giving Murray carries even though he was the worst RB we have, so maybe
If he stinks = Chip’s pick
If he lights it up = Howie is a genius!
And if you don’t play him, the assumption is that he stinks
Watching him on tape, the athleticism still jumps out. Unfortunately, so does the fact that he’s only now starting to figure out which way to run. Still hope he turns into a solid player.
instincts still an issue
True, but experience is the best teacher there. Lack of playing time and getting bumped from position to position really hurt his development.
Halftime Stats
Eagles: 261 yards
G-men: 258 yards
A fitting tribute to Chip – all O, no D.
please let the cowboys comeback and beat the skins
They seemed to be tanking hard
Kirk Cousins . . . on a Foles-like 2013 role.
Hey Kendricks way to step up in to the hole!
K is smart, he’s doing his part.
First play he’s made all season.
I hear Lurie served chips and dip at halftime.
Right where we left off, MTC = 15.
17
Ed Reynolds is laughable
Eagles’ D is coming up clutch. Wish the offense showed as much fire.
Rowe can play
The MTC is heating up.
Death Rowe indeed.
Giants should have just kept running the ball.
Coaches from the “Holmgren coaching tree” just cannot stop themselves from passing the football.
Saints are coming from ahead to lose…damn. Who else needs to win?
Giants
bucs lions bears
one of the lions or bears will win
At least lions are up, gotta avoid the tie
Jets, Browns
Positives this season.
Rowe looks like a solid pick.
MS2 has showed a pulse after being invisible for his first two seasons.
Safety play has been better than it has in the last 1/2 decade or more.
Negatives.
Sam has played just well enough to convince a few idiots he’s a decent QB while still losing the majority of games.
OL lived up to all of the concerns.
Front 7 outside of Cox has underperformed drastically.
In fairness to MS2, he hasn’t exactky been given much opportunity to Fail yet.. I hope to get the chance to see him and judge for myself, since Chip ismt the most reliable source these days
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LMAO!!!
Don’t get the Bradford hate
He will not out right win us games but I would also say he doesnt lose us games. He is a notch above guys like Alex Smith and Fitzpatrick in my eyes
I know Alex Smith won’t win any Fantasy leagues, but he’s shown he can consistently win games both at SF and KC.
As to Bradford . . . for 2/3 or more of this season, we should have just punted on 3rd and 7 or more. Bradford threw so many swing passes without even glancing down the field in this situation it soured me on him completely. No courage. None. Just wanted to pad his completion stats with no situational awareness whatsoever.
And when he threw deep our ass hole receivers just dropped it. Not saying the guy is al world but as qb all u can do is get the ball there. He can make ALL the throws which Smith cannot
Bradford would look much better throwing to Maclin too, our guys have worse hands than JPP
Can’t argue this much. I do wonder though about Bradford’s receivers consistently topping the charts for dropped passes now both in Philly and St. Louis. Still doesn’t excuse his lack of willingness to even try to find someone down the field on 3rd and long. He’s been slightly better the last third of the season, but it was too little too late imho.
No talent in St louis at all. Full disclosure: I used to call him Badford
Philly seems to just shoot itself in foot. If we keep Bradford I get it. If we move on I get it. Either way Bradford earned my respect this year
He’s been getting better at that lately though. I’m more interested in what he will do next year — i.e. is this progress real and can he get even better — rather than what he did earlier in the year, coming off two ACLs and 1.5 years away from the game.
Rowe is playing well. Freaking rookie doesnt now whats on the line here lol
thanks ryan
A football player who celebrates by miming an action that isn’t even physical for golf should have his facemask taken away.
if it wasn’t for Donnie Jones my hate for punters would be at an irrational level
Refs suck
dammit refs! out to let us win.
He was down . . . dammit.
Coughlin smartly burns a challenge/timeout. Let’s hire him.
He wanted to make sure he got one more terrible challenge out before he gets fired.
He understands what is on the line.
We hired a specialist to tell us when to challenge the ball and we still couldn’t get it right… I’m sure Lurie was furious at how bad the team was, after how much LURIE forced Chip to invest paying for an enormous staff and sports science department yet we show up looking like crap each week…
Unfortunately, that’s not a fumble.
I didn’t think Ertz fumbled last week either
Nope. Refs must hate us. Call a fumble on what’s not a fumble in a game where we’re essentially playing for the division and not having the decency to call a fumble an on what’s not a fumble when we’re playing for draft position.
sammy throws a pretty ball
Usually followed by an ugly drop
Ouch!
For crying out loud, get Ertz off the field. He’s showing unnecessary effort. Doesn’t he know what’s on the line???
Career day for him. 5/122/0. Most yards ever.
our team is going to be so good next year i can’t wait.
quiet u.
Can we play the Giants all season?
at least twice
just wait til we light up preseason
Dream team!
“yea but they will be winning with Chip’s players”
just so they win.
Well, Chip wasn’t winning with Chip’s players.
neither was Andy with his but people didn’t mind bringing it up
From here out, Ertz should only be used to block for Murray stretch runs.
Murray still batting 1.000 on 3rd down?
I believe so.
When he doesn’t fumble. . . . lol . . . and he does again. Yay!!!!
thanks demarco
ohhh demarco….
Attaboy Murray!
dude barely grazed the ball
He wants to see London.
a big thumbs up
Good job, DeMarco.
hes clearly been talking to the owner
If it wasn’t because he was wildly overpaid I would say he should get a raise
Big play for the Eagles there, turnovers are key.
Woot
Yessssss
yep, thats about right.
Wtg
Come on Thurmond, you are better than that
at least rowe had good coverage.
do we resign thurmond? his play clearly diminished in the second half ot he year.
Yes. Absolutely. Even half-decent safety play is hard to find.
Only if the new HC doesn’t prefer a true SS type in the secondary.
if he doesn’t want huge $$ I’d say yes, he’s still better than basically every other safety we’ve had in the last 5+ years except Jenkins
i suppose it depends on cost as well
Yes….have you forgot what the last decade of safety olay looked like? This is walts season ever playing the position…encouraged, want to see more
Definitely, not only are decent safeties rare, also remember it’s his first year at the position, he can improve there
an example of why some coaches teach their DB’s to not look back for the ball
still don’t agree with it
different techniques for different situations. in trail no looking back
Weren’t Fletcher and Williams always in trail?
yup, that’s what they called constantly getting beat.
Deep trail, I believe.
still trailing in fact
Its a great strategy for this game
That’s what I’m talking about.
my wife just asked “why do
you have that big smile on your face” hehehe
Our defense has a great feel for momentum.
Good to see everyone doing their part
it takes a team to tank the season.
Saints tie Atlanta, things looking better.
i want to see more stretch runs to murray here.
Toss weakside runs please.
Come on guys! If we really put our hearts into it, we can give up 500+ yards and 40+ points one last time.
More than 1/2 way there. I have faith.
Alright O, get off the field on 3rd down
Nice pass
::golf clap::
Any place where I can see which teams needs to win to give us a better pick?
http://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-should-tank-their-final-game-they-probably-wont/
i guess thats old
Saints and bucs
http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&season=2015-REG&split=Overall
Problem is, can Ravens, Dolphins or Jags over take us with a win?
should root for ravens, but dolphins and jags wont matter.
ravens too, they have a stronger strength of schedule than us. dolphins and jags wont matter cuz they have worse SOS.
Attached
Cooper is due for a dropped bomb from Sam
Can’t wait TIL the next coach tells Coop and his blocking to Fuck Off
Giamts D is pathetic. Hate seeing us struggle against them..
..
Shumur told them a half time to go back to the old style.
Well, at least the fact the Eagles can only put together one half of decent football hasn’t changed.
They can use last night’s Sixers game as inspiration
A FG is all we need to give up to get down 2 scores!
Biggers and Beckham looked like they were ballroom dancing
We all know Biggers was the one leading, Odells a bitch
Jets are going to blow their playoff chances. Steelers are a dangerous team.
i went to a Jets message board and apparently the receiver keep dropping passes and Revis can’t cover Sammy Watkins
Taylor Hart with the play . . . 4 yards down the field. Looks more and more like a complete waste of a pick.
Sadly I haven’t seen him make many plays.l
Funny how he gets playing time when MS2 hasn’t. Pretty sure they’ve made about the same # of plays.
Even worse, there were games he played more than Curry… I thought Bair may be better than Hart
bennie making it clear he’s necessary for this d.
Really makes a huge difference for this team. So much better against the run with him in. Not sure how much of it is the snowball of needing Taylor to play more and just how much is them missing his play. Still, get well soon, Benny.
The only time I remember him coming close to making a play he tackled himself
Free first downs!
This is the right time for Kendricks to get matched up in single coverage against a WR with no help over the top.
Terrible call
Hmm
That was a lot of discussion for a false start.
They were planning dinner after the game.
That’s the Eagles D we know and love!
LOL. Was Kiko supposed to cover ODB in the slot?
Don’t expect blanket coverage, but he should be able to stay closer than that. You’d also hope he could at least get a jam.
Kiko against Beckham. That billy can scheme it up
Kudos if goal of scheme is to ensure us a better draft pick.
I predicted Kendricks, but I’ll take it.
Should I stop watching again? We’re losing!!
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, KEEP WATCHING!
Welp, looks like the Eagles defense is going to Davis us all the way to a higher draft slot.
damn they can’t even keep this game close.
Eli. Damn
Nooooooo
dammit insomniac did you look away.
Lol Walt Thurmond
Damn it.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I’m gonna miss Coughlin.
Now Barwin decides to contribute?…….Erik Flowers can make you look good too
fuck
that’s what i like to see. Shurmer probably the only one happy about that.
dont worry guys, its a long game.
Now I know how Coughlin feels after a pick 6
DAMMIT! I LOOKED AWAY AND THEY MAKE A BIG PLAY?!
DAMMIT BILL DAVIS
Your fault
I blame Fallout 4.
I love the way Eli did a little spin trying to find the ball after his hand was hit there
caputred that eli face well though
Bad news . . .our D scored. Good news, they’ll be right back on the field and will almost certainly give up a TD on the next drive as Eli’s irritated about being embarrassed.
Coughlins gonna have a heart attack on the sideline lol
Hope he doesn’t die out there over meaningless game, what a caricature
Muhammed Wilkerson just got carted off too……rough day for the Jets
FA after this game too
Nice fit for our 3-4 D. Expect we’ll break the bank on Fletcher though. Seriously doubt they’ll be money for both.
Who knows if we’re a 3-4 D after today
I’m probably the minority who wants us to stay a 3-4. Would love to have a more creative coordinator though.
I like a hybrid
I just want a 1 gap attack defense
Would like to see them mix it in, but not depend on it. When Benny and Ced were healthy, it was almost impossible to run on this D. Mix it up more and it would be an absolute nightmare to play against. Way too damn predictable under Billy.
I like Logan and Thornton as 2 gap. Cox as 1 gap.
Logan’s scheme diverse. Thornton not so much.
I think Logan can be a great 1 gap player. Thornton is gone I think
Wow… Makes me want to sit everyone
This was my primary focus this game. Just please stay healthy
You can miss all of next season getting hurt today
If we lose Cox or Ertz or anyone of importance next year I will have Fipp eyes at Shurmer
200th pick for Eli..
this season?
Is that a trade offer?
Good job D
Atta boy Billy.
MTC = 19
You’re going to have to throw water on it to cool it down
that was Kiko rght?? running into a blocker so he wouldn’t get hit by the RB
GO KIKO!!! get us that loss we need!
Maybe you should count plays without a missed tackle
what is MTC? I think I’m drink
nvm I;m def drink lol missed tackles
Somethings wrong when thus us the funnest game of the year.
It’s been a shit season
chris maragos is playing?
Think Thurmond may have been nicked up whenhe was tackled after the INT return.
nicked up or benched?
Benched if they’re smart. What the hell are you doing, Thurmond! Drop the ball like every f’ing one else has done this f’ing season!
If I’m Shurmur anyone in a contract year is sitting out the 4th, we have too much at steak
3rd and 10 draw? wow, good job guys.
remember the first half of the season…..the draw was the most dangerous play to our D 3rd down
we’ve been succeptableto the draw a couple of times, remember the falcons game?
i try not to
That was a tank call by Coughlin.
Scared of MS2
ALONSO
Dammit Thurmond, we really need somebody to go out there and not make a play.
German Eagle has a great record of Eagls wins when he watches live .. he BETTER NOT be watching now !!
RUN THE SWEEP with Murray !
put murray in the game!
Not on 3rd and 1. One thing he’s good at.
allegedly .. because that’s something Chip never took advantage of
schewtty balls
That RB Swing pass/screen has been a GEM all season, I tell ya!
ags just destroyed some dude.
someone just have called him gay
I still think its criminal that someone is wearing Carmichael’s number.
Roc carmichael would lose us this game
5th swing pass to RB by my count Shurmur is gone after this week
MOAR MURRAY!
Alright need to get off the field here
Such sorry D. Can’t believe this is the NFC East. Once the home of the LT Giants, Reggie White Eagles . . .
also once home to the Bradley fletchers and cary williams of the NFL tho too
wtf any other week thats a clear drop
that’s so true its not even funny
Damn. Nice pass.
gotta keep bradford
He’ll fuck it up . . .
Damn right we do
How far are you willing to go to keep him?
Personally? I’d be willing to buy a jersey.
sure but get him out of the game already!
seriously. he might win this game!
Not to mention, he’s going to be so overpriced. Someone’s going to pay him as if he was an elite QB and I don’t remember him having a single winning season (would need to check and I’m too lazy @ the moment.)
Nope. But of course the Eagles WRs this year are the best he’s played with probably. The Rams were a very bad team.
I do worry about the contract demands. Eagles could franchise him and take all the other teams out of it. He’s played well and is worth a lot, but I’d rather not huge guaranteed money or any contract we can’t get out of in two years.
Combine that with what they gave up to acquire him. If it’s only for a one year rental, it goes from overpriced to completely horrendous. I don’t want him back, but from a ‘what we paid to get him’ it really doesn’t make sense to let him go. Still don’t want him though.
…. on the bench for the bench rest of game to ensure a loss
This Giants D is coming up big.
Wow!
what a cut.
Nelson crashalor
Where was that guy all season?
ags shows some really good acceleration at times.
Agholor has plenty of talent….kid needs to let the game come to him
yup excited for him next year. should have run more pick plays i think to get him open in space.
yup me too, Revis doesn’t give out compliments to just anyone
McBride & Agholar concussed .. Ags asking the ref to help him up .. time to rest for 6 months .. well actually 2 months until you go offseason practicing w Bradford in arizona
He wanted to score pretty bad there
not sure why people keep saying how we’ll have to overpay bradford… it does not matter one bit. if you have a chance to get a decent qb (not even great), you need to pay the guy. you CANNOT win games without one so you just have to make it work with the remaining cap.
What does it matter if the OL and defense doesn’t get fixed?
I hear you, but all this QB talk is getting nauseating. This team has a LOT of holes or at least they play like their talent deficient in all areas.
if i could sign brady/rodgers for 30 million a season, i would.
FAIL
see even tom is happy we scored.
Can’t believe we’re going to win this game. They just had to run the ball.
we should’ve kept Chip just to ensure the loss !!
Damn. Not going to even get a real good draft pick on this waste of a season.
I should still have faith though. Giants should run Jennings to set up play-action bomb to Beckham. 2-pt conversion and we’re in business.
gints aren’t that dumb. that’s why they have rings .. they know how to dog this one
Did we just score a TD on the exact same play as the last one, only mirrored?
Jordan Matthews with the most meaningless TDs this year
at least he didn’t celebrate
I wanted to see a ball spin
If that story was true Chip should have told him only after a TD
Actually, that might turn out to be the most impactful score.
True I guess Hollow ,pyrrhic, empty would be better
shurmer + a new DC?
No
Wouldn’t mind new defensive minded HC with Shurmur remaining as OC.
i wouldn’t mind these either
Nor would I.
defensive HC are we spending 2 picks on ol?
Think that should happen regardless of who’s the next HC.
Yep, because most defensive HCs believe in the running game and he’ll realize we need help there.
No
I can see it happening. Not exciting, but if you don’t want to waste the positives Kelly brought to the team, I can see Lurie buying it.
players seem to really like him. Bradford continues to develop. it’s not going to happen but i’d be ok w him.
can we please just throw this game. the giants want to lose. we better want it more
Cmon Billy. We can still lose!!!
Billy D with the 10 yard cushion….easy first down
He knows what it’s all about.
we should’ve kept Chip just to ensure the loss !!
..
whats our penalty count ..
get your head out of your ass Eli
beckham ooooo wow how did he drop that!!
Kiko with the BIG hit…….on Denzel Rice
i miss the quiet offseasons of Andy Reid era. One big FA. thats about it. F the Dream team approach.
that’s what happens when you can’t draft
If I recall correctly, there was tons of moaning and bitching about how Andy and the FO never did enough to get the team over the top.
only when we were sending Pinkston and Mitchell out there as starters
count me as one of them but hindsight is 20/20
One season Joe Banner promised the most exciting offseason ever. Then we didn’t sign anyone.
I don’t buy trying to completely remake your team, but making smart moves to fill the obvious holes on the team? For instance, wouldn’t mind us signing one or two OL and drafting at least two. Would fix so much wrong with this offense. Especially if Agholor grows up into a decent playmaker.
Eric Flowers playing oh so well . . . not.
Id rather resign Brad and lick up OL in the draft, I hope he doesn’t destroy us on the contract I would do 4/70 if he would take it
Of all the days not to totally suck
throw the flag Ref!
I think COx had him but whiffed on purpose so Eli could get the throw off!
always a team player, that one.
Where’s the flag?? Pretty sure they both got there early.
Eff this team, now they want to freaking play
Graham went through that Baby Gate like, well like anyone other than a baby.
lamest nickname ever
even worse than “Moose”
It’s hard to admit, but the Giants deserve this loss more, they wanted it less and I think they actually are even more awfuller than us…
I hate Shurmur. Stop scoring
Go F yourself Jason witten.
Fine, need a 3 and out here
A turnover would also work
Would endorse Shurmer as head coach if he just punted on 1st down
are there any implications on this upcoming Seattle & Arizona game?
umm you can watch good football
For them, yes. Ariz can get home field. Seattle can get 5 seed and play wash
thank u!
Arizona win with CAR loss gets them 1, Seattle win guarantees 5 if Packers win but are 6 if they lose regardless of Packers game
gotcha….thank you!
i told you last week, these fucks would win this week. just to fuck with us.
Come on give the ball back!!
INTERCEPTION
I feel a TD for the Eagles here….i don’t like it but just feels like the Giants D has shut down
Jeez . . . what’s with the smart play calling, Pat? We need to LOSE. That’s your mandate, Pat!!!
So now we get to pick like 16th
not as bad as last year…..
Considering if we just lose the damn game we could have a top 10 pick it feels worse
Cough it up
nice clock management.
not being sarcastic, they at least waited til last second to call TO.
This is pissing me off
At least we are still throwing it. There is still a chance.
I think it’s time to accept the fact our players want to win this, and they will do.
As do you think a load of vets give a shit about playing with a better rookie.
And who cares about draft position. Busts are all over the board. If they do their job they’ll find good players wherever we draft.
I don’t care I want a loss
No way would players not try to win their last game for months. And good for them.
Which goes to show how much the Giants suck
some guys just want their last game in eagles jersey to be a win .. their trying to F us !
What awful logic. It’s like saying you have the same chance of failure of trying to improve yourself but the chance of improving yourself is higher if you fail today.
To be honest, I’m not that bothered. If they go to London I’ll be able to watch them for the first time live.
one of the few wins of this season and we cant even enjoy it. fuck you eagles.
How many of the wins have really been enjoyable.
Cowboys one uuuuh Saints one errrr yeah that’s it oh and Pats
i’d argue the pats was not enjoyable
I was actually mad because I was ready to tank the season away
Cowboy’s and Saints, yes. I’d given up on the team (rightly as it turned out) by the time we shocked the Pats. It was a bittersweet ‘what could have been’ instead of a pure enjoyment.
first giants game. first half of miami game
They even tried to give the Pats game up.
i enjoyed the Cowboys OT win…..but that’s about it
enjoyed the Pats win
Worst part is if the Eagles won last week we would be losing by 40 rn
Inside receivers are killing the Giants. Sad cause those are the only decent players on the Eagles.
will this be most points we’ve put up all year/
With a TD yes we dropped 39 on NO
Think of it like this. If the Eagles were to really tank a game, it would just set us up for heartbreak with karma and the poor kid we would have picked. By winning, all is right in the world and we will nail our draft pick.
Just like last year
3:49 left. Bills up 22-17. Jets getting the ball back after Buffalo FG.
C’mon JETS!!
would anyone want new HC to be Coughlin ??
Not anyone with a brain
not sure if serious
errr, yep I was .. but not any more
if by HC you mean head cheerleader
No. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
good work brinkly.
They said on the WIP broadcast that in the last week, since Chip was fired, that the Eagles have started preliminary negotiatons to extend Cox, Curry and they likely want to go back to 4-3 defense.
Would love it, but let the HC decide imo
Good Lord Tobin!
Cowboys are guaranteed a top 4 pick assuming they lose today
They were going to lose anyways but McFadden fumbled the ball on the two yard line going in for the TD and it went for a touchback. Was holding the ball on the outside hand but defender reached across him and batted it out.
C’mon . . . fumble . . . turnover . . . . pick . . . 😛
Pick 6 time
It’s a long shot but Billy D is the man for it
RILEY TO THE RESCUE!
don’t say Coop never contributed!
BEAUTY BY RILEY COOPER !!!! YOU DA MAN
So you’re sayin there’s a chance..
Can we get a miracle in the meadowlands for the giants?
I LOVE YOU POOPER
of course. perfect ending.
Good job, Pat, giving the Giants a better chance.
Good punters coverage
This would be so damn ironic if the Giants get a last minute drive to win the game.
but that would be for the best
i saw 3.5 winning quarters, i’m ready to let go.
Go Eli
Don’t forget. Bradford put that ball right on the money on a blitz.
If we could provoke OBJ into a fight and suspension to start next year, that would be ideal.
After he scores a TD first.
Or after, it isn’t like he will be ejected.
PREVENT DEFENSE!!!
BILLY UNLEASH THE PREVENT DEFENSE!!!
He is.
This is so confusing.
Saints win. Now if we can just pull out this L
Okay, this is what it all comes down to. We really need the defense to go out there and lose it for us.
Nicks sux sooooo bad
now kendricks wants to tackle.
NICKS YOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Throw the flag
Damn. Dora has taken over my TV. What did Cooper do?
Drop on 3rd down. Now its Giants ball
slight overthrow on a td pass that would have ended the game.
He Coop’d the bed.
Yeah baby
of course
How is it that we shut OBJ down?
Rowe.
Sweet!
That play is proof that Nicks should have been an Eagle.
At least manning spiked the ball instead of kneeling. #veteran
Damn it MS2 . . . NOW YOU MAKE A PLAY????
making it seem like he should have been on the field. wonder if ck kept him off b/c he hated him.
Yup.
if that’s true that’s a huge story … id love LVOE to be the reporter breaking that one
he put up stats today. obviously hasn’t been perfect in other games.
it’s cos he’s black, obviously.
Unstoppable Marcus Smith
Dare i say Braman has looked good rushing as welll
Always does. Think the issue there is that you only want him doing that on D.
43?
Might work well there. Might be too small.
Fuck
fuck you eagles.
Poop
What a horrible win. Unfuckingbelievable.
To hell with the Giants. To hell with the Eagles.
Meh, I’d rather win. Sending Coughlin out with a loss feels good man.
Yeah. Me too. Rational advantages be damned.
Why? We now have a shittier pick and an almost certain loss on the schedule at Seattle next year. This win hurts us significantly.
Because I am going to remember sending a 2 time Superbowl winning coach of our rivals forever. That and I generally try to have a positive disposition. Living life miserable sucks dude.
I’d honestly rather lose, but I’m not seriously mad at the coaches and players for losing. You have to put forth the best effort you can every game. It’s just frustrating that that hasn’t happened the vast majority of the season.
god damn it
Hate this team. Right up there with the Dream Team of 2011-2012.
We’ve been outtanked
typical dooshfan takes it balls deep
I’ll miss tom Coughlin actually….Giants are that much easier to hate with him on the sidelines
how is the only stop we get during game the one that ruins the draft pick?
and with Kendricks in coverage to boot
If I have to find something shiny about this . . . God, I hope this is the last time I see Riley Cooper and Billy Davis in Eagles green.
Wow, do the Giants ever suck.
Such an incredibly frustrating season.
rex sticking it to his former team
yup, im glued to this game right now
Cant even lose right
who’s heard payton to the giants next year
Not sure that is a good match. Eli isnt good and Payton only had a good defense 1 year
plus idk if Payton and Mcadoo co-exist with playcalling
doubt mcadoo stays if new HC
whers Eli go?
The only good thing about this is that Bradford has been looking good the last half of the season.
I 100% hope we keeps him for a reasoble price
Bradford has looked good, for sure.
But it’s hard to think of a QB who didn’t have a good game against the Giants this season (except Winston and Cassel).
He had good games against much better defenses as well
Not to press . . .
But which one?
23 pts vs. Bills
24 pts vs. Wash
Bradford is solid. But he wasn’t getting points on the board. (this is where, in St. Louis, fans blamed the bad O-line and bad WRs)
(this is where, in Philly, fans blamed the bad O-line and bad WRs)
Which we also had here this year
That one Bradford miss that sucks out to me was the bomb last week he over shot to Ertz. He got utterly decimated on that with pressure up the middle
We had those issues as well. And were required to run it wide with Murray a lot of the time which basically gave you two downs to get 10 yards.
He’s been good, and consistently good, the last seven games. Thought he started turning it around vs Carolina though the stats were bad — that was when he began to get some accuracy. He was actually playing really well against Arizona, but his rating took a big tumble at the end of the game as he gambled more and got another INT. I think his rating was 120+ for quite a while that game. The turnovers just killed us.
The points are an issue. Giants are bad yes but he only had a 61 rating last time we played them — he was part of the offensive problem still at that point. 108? today. It would help if we saw a game where the team really racked up points. Today was good but still just 28 points for the offense.
He’s certainly passing the eye test, but yes, you would like to see more consistency on offense. But that may not happen without better weapons. The decision is not clear-cut but I don’t think we’d do better anywhere else in free agency, or from the sounds of it the draft.
So what with all the bashing he gets it. He looked good the last few weeks
Just remember it Kolb always be worse
Winston lit us up too didn’t he?
You’re not getting him for less than a $21M commitment and that’s the tag.
Not so sure Bradford gets a giant deal. Yes Tom Gondon is his agent, but what can they hold us hostage over? a 7-9 record?
Supply and demand. He will command big bucks from somewhere.
I know Eagles fans like to make fun of Coughlin, but he was a great coach. Wish him well in retirement.
Luck doesnt equal great. He is a.500 coach.
Words I never thought I’d find myself saying:
“Damnit! Marcus Smith almost sacked him again!”
Yet here we are.
Re: Marcus Smith II
In a 4-3, where does the next coach play him . . . has to be DE, right?
And where the hell was he all year . . . did Kelly really force Davis to minimize his time because — as Kelly said when asked about MSII’s selection — “I didn’t have final say.”
Smith would be a good DE, less thinking needed (his biggest problem). Also Smith most likely landed in Kelly’s dog house
How does Barwin fit in a 4-3?
he played 43 in texas, not a perfect fit but he can do it
Depends on the scheme. He would be the DE/OLB in a 4-3 under, can be the close to LOS SAM in a more normal 4-3
I think the team ends up doing a hybrid 3-4 similar to what Wade Philips would run, 1-gap scheme. The Eagles have already been running numerous packages as a 4-down front so it’s not a huge deal.
could we poach phillips/
I guess, if we’re a 4-3.
Some fans here! A higher draft pick would have been a nice silver lining in a loss…. but real fans root for their team to win!
shaaaaaaadup
real fans root for whats best for their team, in this case, a loss.
There’s only 16 games a year…. every win is precious. A higher draft pick doesn’t guarantee anything… I get where people are coming from, but it just seems unseemly to be “upset” about a win….
A win doesn’t do shit for us except making us lose a higher chance at getting better.
Wins are precious… when you’re in the playoff race. Which we are not. I was rooting to make the playoffs, but once that was out… I was rooting for the loss.
The win means worse pick in every round next year, probably by several spots, and also means we have to play in Seattle next season, which probably means we get one fewer precious win then, when it would mean a lot more.
People think real life is Madden
i love this comment…..i remember in college my roommates used to argue which player was better based on their madden ratings lol!
I like when people say “let them score so we can get the ball back”. That’s a move I’ve done in Madden countless times
Guess Im fake then, want whats best for team long term
You going to brag to your co-workers about how pointless this win will be in 2016?
then you aren’t a real eagles fan because you don’t even get it! you don’t get the pain you don’t get the humor
ahhhh the “real fan” argument……always fun
You’re right… bad form by me. I’ve been a long-time lurker and read nearly every word posted/commented here. We’re all real fans here… I just savor every win…. 0-16 or 16-0. Never know when the next one will be (gulp)
i hear ya…..i question others…..and myself at times
always rooting for our players but not always rooting for our management
If there were ever a question that MS2 was Howie’s pick or CK’s, it’s been answered. Looks like CK kept him out of games simply due to spite.
what a monumental asshole
That’s a bingo
I didn’t get a good look at that, but he did have a powerful punch.
ICDogg • 5 minutes ago
We’ve been outtanked
Jets lose. Steelers in playoffs.
Fits the narrative for the Eagles.
Only beat one playoff team . . . and it took multiple injuries to their O-line, WRs, TE, and 3 special team/defensive TD returns — spelling F-L-U-K-E.
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Jets overachieved. Testament to some great leadership by Bowles.
Another team that needs a better QB.
numbers-wise fitz wasn’t bad this year. how they couldn’t get up for this game against a mediocre bills team to go to the playoffs i just don’t understand.
Redskin, Cowboys and Giants didn’t even beat a winning team this year…………..
Your point is they’re bad . . . as are the Eagles?
my point is as bad as we were we squandered a golden opportunity and will be right back n it next year
Focused on Rowe most of the game and came away impressed. The one thing that really stands out is that at the line of scrimmage he stays calm and waits foe the WR. Doesn’t panic often. Also a reliable tackler.
He always seemed to be in good position this year. Im very high on Rowe
Totally okay with Bradford next year around $16 MM / Year.
Rooting for Adam Gase.
That’s all I got.
Good riddance to this abortion of a season.
what if Condon wants — and can get — more than $16M?
I don’t know where the line in the sand is. $18 MM?
that’s a great question
You transition tag him and lock him in to 1 year at $17-$17.5M. Typically when team transition tags a player it either prevents other teams for negotiating with the player or you basically let another team negotiate for you and then match. No poision pills are allowed anymore. I don’t see any other team offering him an outlandish contract that the Eagles wouldn’t match. If they do, well you have Sanchez and the draft and realize you’ll probably suck next year.
Cap is going up, so he will, on a multi-year deal, for sure. I think the Eagles offered that before the season. But I’d hope the cap hit in the first year isn’t much more than that. They can add on high unguaranteed years at the end of the deal to get the average up closer to 20 if they want. It’s the guaranteed money which is the issue, and yes, Condon generally does not cave on that.
We could franchise him to take other teams out of it. Transition tag if we are prepared to pay full market price whatever that is.
if I was a philly reporter id be interrogating MS2 right now .. about his playing time and more
well he said he was excstatic, so i think you already know.
ddint even hear that! wow
My perfect off season:
Hire Adam Gase or Hue Jackson
Change to a 4-3 defense
Keep Bradford
Get Jeffrey in FA
Cut the fat (Celek, Ryans etc.)
Trade Murray
can’t pay jeffrey 15m, i like mo sanu.
Sanu is a gadget player and Jeffrey aint getting 15 mill
he put up real numbers last year. would pair well w/ jackson.
What di Maclin get, 12? Jeffrey around the same I would think.
11 mill
Mac got 11 but Dez got 14 is expect something in between for Jerlff leaning towards Dez because of how thin WR market is in FA
Sorry for the atrocious typos…on a phone
trade murray to whom and how much of his salary do you eat ?
To Dallas like this scenario
http://overthecap.com/exploring-the-eagles-options-with-demarco-murray/
thats a great read!! nice share, thanks.
but uber complicated .. and really shows hows chip F’d the franchise historically for this deal – which didnt even make sense fro his style & preference of play! what a talent wasting fraking money wasting DOPE chip was!
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sofa king complicated for the new coach to deal with, or Howie to figure it out .. might be easier to find a way to use him
Panic move in hindsight
So we are looking between 13-15 pick now, pending Oakland and St Louis results.
eagle give up 500yds again
Get Davis out of here. You wanna talk about Chips biggest mistake? He is still on the team and coaches the defense.
F***. Jordan Matthews comes up 3 yards short of 1000.
Good should keep him hungry for next year. Has no one to blame but himself for all the drops he should have 1200 easy
Too busy talking to catch the ball, glad he didn’t get it.
He didn’t deserve it
Hell, he could spin the ball three yards.
Awesome 🙂
Amazing he came that close with all the drops he had. Recorded atleast 1 today that would have been a big gain.
1,000 yards means nothing anymore.
It’s an average of just 62.5 yards per game.
The 1,000 yard standard was established in the 14-game era.
Comparable number now is 1,150 — just not catchy.
TDs matter way more to me
I want him and Ertz to have 20 between them next season
I also recall at least 2 touchdowns called back for flags to each player
I’ll add this:
At a minimum, this will be another interesting offseason. This hasn’t led to actual positive returns on the field in a decade.
But it will at least be interesting until the pads come on.
Back to back years we’ve helped the giants get better draft position and killed ours. Could have had a top 10 pick. Bradford ertz and Thurmond should be fired
yea but they ended up with Erik Flowers…..who im not a fan of
Not the point at all
not your point, but it was my point
Cant ask the players to tank. Shurmur and avis were selfish today
On a positive we send Crybaby Coughlin out on a low note
Giants get top 10 pick, Girls get top 5 pick and Skins get to lose in the playoffs while we are stuck in between
Maybe I’m naive but i feel like we have a way better core than those teams. we just need an Olineman or 2. Maybe another sure handed WR
you are naive, chip ruined this team and its devoid of any talent
Yea these scrubs have no hope
Ertz, Matthews, Mathews, Murray (never had NFL success) Cox, Logan, Jenkins. What a bunch of garbage players………
Or just maybe just maybe these players weren’t used to the best of there abilities but keep on being negative, its worked so well for our fanbase up until this point.
I actually think we’re in worse shape than all of those teams. Although you can make a case the Giants are worse….
Who is throwing the ball behind that hall of fame OL?
Who is running the ball? Who is a good defender on D
/Dallas
Redskins- Have u seen that secondary? Cousins is Foles gold for sure
Giants- Have the best young WR in the game, still can’t put up enough points to win and a 36 year old QB
Les Bowen
@LesBowen
49s50 seconds ago
Pat Shurmur on interviewing for HC: I guess we’re going to meet here in the near future.
I can’t blame anyone on the team for losing. Th ose guys are not focused on draft picks and stuff like that. They are out there trying to win and do their jobs at the best of their ability. With that said, winning this game absolutely sucks. There is no benefit to winning it. There is no silver lining. It just hurts this team moving forward.
Shurmur was selfish and only thought about himself instead if taking one for the team
It was fun to root for a loss, but you realize that logic is absurd, right?
not sure he is serious….hope he isn’t
Worse case scenario we won today and nobody important got hurt.
Also incredibly funny and encouraging :
Demarco with big run
Ertz caught EVERYTHING
MS11 can actually make plays when he’s allowed on field
In all honesty, how? We played plenty of backups. He didn’t do anything over the top to sell out to win this game. He played the game rather than flat out tanking it, which you can’t blame him for. That is his job. I have no issue with what Shurmur did.
Lol it was a joke
Got it. Missed that.
It isn’t hard to see how we misunderstood, but I’m glad he wasn’t serious.
Not to mention pay incentives and show casing for future employment etc.
MSII got a sack and multiple pressures, maybe even a tackle or 2.
It would be nice if he could actually contribute and not be a punchline.
He contributed today.
He got pressure on Eli, did you notice if they asked him to drop into coverage? I wasn’t paying that close attention.
I saw it once. He dropped like 2 yards and the ball had already gone away from him to the flat.
He didn’t actively hurt anything, so..okay.
unless he might not be a bust.. is good enough to play .. but CHip had it out for him .. wonder if that’s true; I fall for that rumor because I don’t trust chip at all
We will see what happens moving forward, but he has had opportunities to play in his two years here and has done nothing in 31 out of 32 games. I’m going to lean towards trusting those other 31 games for now before putting any faith that he can contribute moving forward.
Oh absolutely. I could never in good faith as a player or coach intentionally give less than my best. You can’t fault the players or coaches at all. Just sucks that we lose that many spots in the draft. Then again if your front office takes a guy like Brandon Graham over Earl Thomas or trades up for a Jerome McDougal it doesn’t really make a dofference.
shurmer laying it on thick w/ the continuity.
what did he say? (can’t get presser on phone)
Can’t recall exact wording, but took a quiet shot at Cleveland saying teams that are wedded to changing things every few years can’t seem to get any traction.
So is Shumur saying he should be the next HC . . . to keep the Kelly tempo scheme in place?
i don’t know if he’d keep every aspect of tempo the same, didn’t see it today, he had really good clock management actually.
bradford really like schurmer
I like how he casually mentioned that Sam was given the opportunity to audible out of plays – which he did throughout the game. He gave a lot of praise to Sam.
Sam continues to look pretty good and his lone int came off a tipped ball.
yea tipped ball ain’t his fault if it’s a D-lineman
Tipped at the line is a good play by the D Line, but still on the QB finding the passing lane and getting over the guy’s finger.
Better than a bad read though. Sam has played well since the end of November
i hear ya, but a Qb has his eyes dowfield
If your playing QB and looking at the D-line while passing, your doing it wrong
Winning must-lose games is what made us want to throw snowballs at Santa.
ICDogg • 33 minutes ago
We’ve been outtanked
..
winner
I think that, regardless of who the new HC is, shurmur has to stay in some capacity. guy seems to work well with sam, andt seems like we won’t be picking high enough to take a shot a lynch or goff, so sam seems like the best option. slowly warming up to getting a defensive hc and keeping shurmur on board to run the offense, which looked much better today than at any point I can remember this yaer. I don’t care that the giants are the worst defense in the league, I think that with another weapon or two and some fresh blood on the o-line, the eagles could be a pretty darn good offense. as for the d, well they need some work, to say the least
Sam actually audibled today.
I know, I really liked the tweaks that pat made to the offense made today. slowing down, not going 120mph all the time, AUDIBLING(oh my god I haven’t seen an audible in years), and overall I think everybody looked good, and with some extra infusion of talent this is an offense that could put up 20 on anybody.
Lol put up 20
*20+
However this is a defense capable of ALLOWING 9000000000000000000000+ on any given sunday as well…
Younger, more innovative guy as offensive coordinator. Shurmur AHC/QBs coach.
I could deal with that, although Idk if shurmur would accept that “demotion” unless it came with a big bump in salary
Wow, Bradford……”slower tempo allowed for us to call the right plays against the right looks”
I love it. They played real nfl football today.
except against one of the worst teams ..and unfor it was close .. but it leaves me more optimistic WITHOUT chip
they have slowed the tempo though before today….it helps when guys don’t commit penalties and actually catch the ball…..but it just struck me as Bradford saying “keep Shurmur”
True. But he didn’t allow Sam to change plays…which makes a huge difference with the right qb. Also makes you less predictable.
yes i agree
also want to add that Chip hurrying it up against obvious bad defensive fronts was something i hammered about Chip all season, just like his playcalling
Ouch. Adding more gasoline to the Chip Kelly fire.
It’s blazing
I wasn´t a big Chip fan by the end but I gotta say that the Jordan Mathews spinning the ball thing is a BS complaint – you don´t spin the ball because you´re trying to get it back to the officials ASAP, not because Chip was trying to be some kind of killjoy douchebag.
he threatened to bench shady for that in the beginning
It’s a few seconds. It’s not even an excessive celebration.
i thought Chip complained about Jmatt doing it after a TD? if Chip told him to stop after a play then Chip is absolutely correct in telling him to cut it out
It was supposed to be for a TD celebration, where you aren’t caring that much about getting the ball back to the refs. Does seem a weird thing, but if true, it’s excessive. I can see the complaint on a first down, or to avoid a celebration penalty, but short of that…
ICDogg • 33 minutes ago
We’ve been outtanked
Lets hope that Tunsil or Stanley somehow magically falls into our laps. I wouldn’t mind Treadwell or a CB but OT is such a premier position.
Nah we have to trade back now we probably cost ourselves a shot at one of them today but maybe I should say that because caring about this teams long term future makes me a fake fan
damn bandwagon Oregon fan go back to Oregon!!
I’m not a bandwagon Oregon fan, do you think it’s possible I’m an Eagles fan who just so happened to like Oregon before Chip got here
I was just kidding. It’s sad that people rather have this one win over possibly getting a cornerstone player but you know what? There’s busts everywhere!!
I don’t care there is big difference between 9 and 15, I understand there are busts everywhere but I don’t get getting excited over moving back in the draft
Even if they aren’t there, Taylor Decker is pretty good.
Im sure people will rise and fall and a good OT will be there for us. I just pray they dont end up with an Ereck Flowers type.
They aren’t as good as those two though.
Jason Spriggs!
Go Raiders!
Go Rams
So who was responsible for the godawful run “defense” today. I was too busy hoping Jennings would bust one to notice.
chip
OK, who of those who were playing was responsible?
no bennie. just not that stout in the middle, plenty of ilb missed tackles
i don’t understand the question
Bennie wasn’t plugging in the middle. Beau was awful today.
That was my fear. Bye Ginger Thor.
Well all the Ducks actually sucked today so… maybe they are all heart broken over chip
Logan out. Having to play safeties deep so Beckham doesn’t kill you. Plus the ILB play has been horrible since Hicks was hurt and Reynolds sucks too.
reynolds not a playmaker, but he’s in the right vicinity.
I understand hoping the eagles would have lost. What I don’t understand is being mad that they didn’t. Did you REALLY think they would purposely tank? And are you mad that they didn’t? If yes, you’re a football idiot.
I could say the same about you. Winning a battle doesn’t win the war.
According to your logic, the Browns should have a dynasty seeing that they pick in the top 5 every year. …and Mingo was his name-o
Except in the last 15 years of Eagles football, they were never as bad as the Browns. Case closed.
No one expected them to tank. We just expected them to find a way to lose a game the way they have for most of the year. Instead they actually played decently.
It’s ok to be disappointed about it. But people are actually mad about it.
Being disappointed at the outcome or angry at the football gods is much different than accusing the coaches and players of making bad choices as if tanking was ever a serious option, agreed.
Thank you.
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Lol you guys are way too serious
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Lol
I don’t understand what this is supposed to prove
I made it extremely clear I wanted a loss for obvious reasons and I’m more frustrated that the Eagles waited til now to play well lol. No one is mad at these guys for winning , If you think anyone is legitimately angry at Shumur and the guys for not trying their best then I don’t know what to say to you, as if people actually think he was being selfish, that’s what my comment meant you having no way of telling an obvious joke from true anger. Maybe you should give Tommy shit too
Bryce Brown for the Touchdown
my god he’s on the Seahawks?
Yep
has he fumbled yet??
Someone want to fill us in on DRAFT PICK STATUS?
Where we at?
Who do we need to win?
13-17
Root for Raiders and Rams difference between 13-15
So we’re at least top-15, that’s good.
Odell was picked 13th I think right? They’ll be somone there but im rooting for spot 13.
But you only get good players at pick number 9!!!
Well the chances of gettting the player you want are higher and if several teams want that player, the odds are higher he is exceptionally talented. However it doesnt nessecarily guarantee anything. See John Cooper thus far or Dion Jordan.
No one’s saying that but there is no reason not to want a higher pick, hell not all the good players are picked first round so why not forgo the first round with your logic
It’s what you’d expect them to say but offensive players coming out strong in support of keeping Bradford.
What do we think about the QB class thus year v. SB? who should we keep? I know sam won’t come cheap as his agent is condon, but can we do better than sam?? can we contend with him, or do we let him walk and start over with goff, lynch, or somebody else who our staff can mold into a franchise qb(maybe)?
do both, keep Sam and draft a QB
Yeah, but who? if we keep sam, I think(at least) that we need to invest HEAVILY in the o-line, and that means first rounder to me. So that means that we’d need a second-third round find. I don’t know enough about the depth of the qb class to know if a find like that is potentially out there. But I agree, if the money is not crippling, you keep sam and then get a QB to develop.
i’m in favor of trading back and picking up more picks, and drafting Carson Wentz….i think this draft is pretty thick with oline prospects.
your not going to fill all the holes with one draft….even if we do go heavy with o-line it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to improve….if the rookies end up starting, they are still rookies and the line needs to develop a cohesivness
Well I am of the opinion that the line needs an overhaul. JP, while good, needs to be dealt of moved inside. Land needs to swing over to lt, and kelce can stay. Everybody else needs to be a backup. We can use maybe 1-2 rookies, but other than that we should sign some middle of the road, servicable vets and build around lane, kelce, and a high draft pick.
As for wentz, I need to look atr him. admittedly, I haven’t seen much of him,and need to look at him and see if I think he is franchise material after a few years of tutelidge.
notice he played the whole game today.
i’m riding the Wentz train pretty hard lol…..i’ll either look smart or like a complete fool, but it should take a few years to decide….kid is a project
why wentz over bradford?
not over him……to groom behind Bradford
we’ll see. Like i said, i need to see him play, and given that he played at a non-fbs school, I need to see him in some sort of all star team, but he’s big, he has a big arm, and certainly looks the part, but I need to see if he can be developed or if he is at a d1aa school for a reason
his team is in the FCS championship game on Jan 9, but i don’t think he is playing…..he injured his wrist in mid-october and was only supposed to be out 8 weeks
As for o-line the FA pool isn’t too hot…..Just guys you will have to overpay for or more Dennis Kelly types
yeah, i know, but maybe we can find another mathis type, or at least somebody who is serviceable for a few years so we don’t have 2-3 rookies on the o-line
This year’s QB class is potentially as bad as the year Ponder, Locker, and Gabbert were drafted.
gotta stick w/ sam, concentrate on ol or another WR. not worth wasting first on a qb w/ no o-line, i think you have to keep sammy b
Keep Sam. OL OL OL. Need some pass rush too
and corners. and more corners. and maybe a linebacker or two. and did i mention corners
we have rushers in a 43
Honestly — looking at the roster chip left he did a pretty good job in 3 years of fixing the roster. still a couple of pieces away but the roster feels younger. have a qb, etc.
You’re joking right? Roster got significantly older under Chip. See Kempski’s posts on age. We lost top talent (DJax, McCoy, Mathis) and we now have serious holes in places that were good when Chip got here – OG, OT, WR. Defense got better with experience along Dline, but other than that. I don’t see any other area of improvement. Maybe K if Parkey returns healthy.
Oh, Safety improved. Will give you that, but team is in worse shape than the team that ended 4-12 3 years ago. That team had plenty of major injuries to point to and were playing a rookie QB.
defense is WAY better in terms of talent now.
we’ll get younger if we cut Peters, Ryans, Celek
can’t keep all those guys – djax, mccoy, maclin, mathis (Who is 35 btw and rotating w/ an udfa)
if ck didn’t flub on murray, we have a lot of younger guys and cheap FAs. Just need a coach that can get them to play well.
have the best safety tandem we’ve had in 10yrs.
Not sure why Gase wouldnt go to Indy and work with Luck.
Because Irsay+Grigson might just be worse than Lurie+Howie
yup, luck and a ton of offesnive weapons
We’re getting stuck with McDermott
Sam Bradford’s last 7 starts: 175/258 (67.9%), 1959 yards (7.6 y/a), 10 TD, 4 INT, 96.7 rating.
Shift Peters to guard. Move lane to left tackle. Sign the best guard available. Draft a big mauling rt in the first round. 3 rd round picks go for a nickle db and a big raw wr who could eventually start. I want another outside cb but were stuck with Maxwell for atleast another year. Shift to the 4-3 and this defense could be nice.
max, rowe and carroll gives you 3 guys you can rotate, dime looks a lot better.
plus don’t have to burn a ton of picks on dbs again, i’d be looking at burning those picks on ol/wrs
Carroll is a free agent. Injury might bring down his price though. We will get Shepherd back.
an embarrasment of riches, if only we could get them to play well.
i like Sheperd a lot….really good in man-to-man….tackling is an issue however
I want 2 OL within first 3 picks. Cut Peters. He’s been great, but we need to build a new OL around Lane and Kelce.
i think peters plays better w/out tempo. i think you get a later round /udfa to groom but i think peters will be better than replacement level next year. played really well this game.
Well, I’m all for the full on rebuild next year. Shed all the old guys – Meco, Peters, Celek, Bair, & Barbre. Trade back, get more picks. Load up on OL in particular. Use FAs to fill holes with journeymen. No big signings (unless its a top OT).
I think you have to convince Peters to take a pay cut and move to guard. Otherwise try and trade him for a late round pick
Jason Peters says the Eagles won’t find a better left tackle than him in 2016
clear peters hated kelly
Jordan Matthews asked Bradford how big his house was because he plans on working him a ton all offseason
Peters says he wants to retire w/ eagles#Eagles
“I’m best in locker room. Who they gonna get better than me? Nobody. Who they draft better? Nobody”
where did you see this??
twitter reports from lockerroom interviews. see esp, mclane, etc.
ok, couldn’t tell if this was a joke or if JP would actually be arrogant enough to say it lol
well he knows there’s a chance he’s cut
you think there are a couple teams that would consider trading for him and we could start a bidding war?? teams that need a LT and need one to contend with in the next few years? I can dream, right?
sounds like Dikembe Mutombo
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25436085/younger-gronkowski-leaving-kansas-state-for-the-nfl
now that we’re post chip and need a fb, can we get little gronk?
Asked who he would like to see as the next coach, Jason Peters said someone like Andy Reid, a father figure you want to play for.
Eagles have allowed more yards than any team in NFL history over the last seven weeks of a season: 3,134. Previous record: 3,122.
Zach Ertz is first Eagles tight end with consecutive games of 120 yards or more since Pete Retzlaff in 1965.
Ertz has 29 catches for 399 yards in his last four games.
Some .#Eagles players said running tempo offense at slower pace helped cut down penalties.
you don’t say? a 5th grader could have figured that out, but chip can’t. lol.
wonder if anyone mentioned receivers actually catching the ball as well
Are you saying they executed better by slowing things down a bit? Who knew?