I Love Jim Schwartz

Posted: January 24th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 416 Comments »

Instead of my yapping, let’s all go get smarter by listening to Professor Jim Schwartz.

2 great videos on the Wide-9 and his thoughts on defense

Great stuff.

I’ll discuss some of it later. Just go watch them for now.

*****

I posted some draft notes from the Shrine Game over at ScoutsNotebook.

It is very possible I wrote about a guy named Vern(on).

416 Comments on “I Love Jim Schwartz”

1 P_P_K said at 11:44 AM on January 24th, 2016:
Great hire!
2 Dave said at 11:51 AM on January 24th, 2016:
The thing with Schwartz is that unless he gets another shot at a head coaching gig, he’s probably going to be here for a while. Look at how long he was DC for the Titans and how successful they were on that side of the ball. Follow that up with the Lions and Bills defense success, it would be a shocker if he ever was fired for performance as DC. He has proven to be successful with a myriad of players over a long period of time. I am very excited with him here.
3 iceberg584 said at 11:58 AM on January 24th, 2016:
Plus, he must realize that he has young talent here. If things shake out correctly, this could be a top 5, 10 defense for the next several years.
4 Fufina said at 12:08 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Needs a special outside rusher to make the defense go from good to great. Curry probably plays DT on 3rd down with Cox, and Graham and Barwin are good (but not great) outside guys.
Think we will be in that ranked in 5-15 range depending on injuries and how we adjust to the new scheme in the first year.
Schwartz is such a charismatic guy that i think he will get another HC chance. yes teams focus on Offensive coaches currently and Detroit suffered with poor discipline and failed to contend with some elite talent (megatron+Suh) they had available to them but that organisation has struggled to build consistently for decades and i think with time people will forgive them more.
5 Patrick said at 12:41 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think Schwartz will be a HC again, but one point I think will be important is that Schwartz might be a little selective when it comes to jobs. Its happened a couple of times that coordinators chose to stay in place, and if the rumors about us paying Schwartz very well, i’m guessing that if say the Browns or the Raiders want to hire him in 2 years and they’re still, well a mess,he might rather stay here a year or 2 longer and wait for the right position to open up.
6 BlindChow said at 1:05 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He’s probably holding out for the Titans’ next HC opening. Couldn’t be more than a couple years from now…
7 BlindChow said at 11:52 AM on January 24th, 2016:
From the Senior Bowl notes:
Wilson also had a stronger, thicker build. One concern with Adams, because of his size, is durability. He missed time this year with a broken finger and then had to leave the bowl game after a hit to the head.
Does a thicker build prevent finger and head injuries?
8 TommyLawlor said at 12:29 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Not specifically, obviously. But the point is that Wilson hasn’t missed an NFL game and Adams couldn’t make it through one FBS season. Some bodies can take a pounding and some can’t.
9 ACViking said at 12:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
T-Law:
How ’bout this . . .
Russell Wilson is short.
Vernon Adams is small.
Big difference.
10 BlindChow said at 1:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Small sample size for Adams, though. Either way, those aren’t the usual injuries attributed to being small-framed.
11 Fufina said at 1:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Finger injuries can happen to anyone, but i do think smaller QB’s are more likely to get concussions if they are sacked just because the momentum and size difference is bigger.
12 Dave said at 11:53 AM on January 24th, 2016:
On an unrelated note, I am so glad I upgraded to a commercial John Deere snow blower 5 years ago. We got 31 inches here and my driveway is very large (probably can fit 10 cars) and it still took me less than an hour. Everyone out there still clearing snow, be safe and don’t overdo it.
13 Greg Richards said at 2:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
You anywhere near Baltimore? I have 5 bucks and a bag of Cheetos.
14 Dave said at 2:26 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Nope, Lehigh Valley. If I was closer and it was Cool Ranch Doritos, I’d be there.
15 Ray888 said at 12:12 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Does Megan know?
16 TommyLawlor said at 12:30 PM on January 24th, 2016:
She is willing to share me with a good DC.
17 jpate said at 12:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hearing Schwartz all I think about is how the hell did Andy expect Jaun to know all this when he strapped him with the wide 9.
18 Fufina said at 12:36 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Ha totally agree, wide 9 needs to be an entire defense philosophy that needs every level of the defense to adjust to it and know how to protect against its weaknesses and exploit its strengths. Juan who had some nice late night chats with JJ (who was not a wide 9 guy at all) was not in a place to make it work
19 Fufina said at 12:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Not that i love it as a 1st and 2nd down set unless you are against a Payton type offense. Think it makes sense on 3rd down but it will naturally put so much stress on your safeties that things will break down if you expect them to own a run gap and still honor the pass.
20 jpate said at 1:36 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Exactly and even after making it a whole defensive philosophy it took Schwartz experience and time to make learn the weaknesses, make adjustments and fine-tune it to make it effective.
21 jaws80 said at 11:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
think Reid really wanted to create a Washburn defense, start with the wide-9 and the rest fits in. Washburn’s personality couldn’t be a coordinator and did not want to be. And hard to find an experienced D coach, top candidate, that would be willing to work under Washburn, have their D dictated by Washburn.
22 Buge Halls said at 3:11 PM on January 24th, 2016:
And the Wide 9 needs good linebackers to fill in the center – a position Andy Reid never seemed to be able to fill or even care about.
23 ACViking said at 12:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
T-Law:
Any initial impressions from the E-W Shrine or NFLPA games on Saturday?
We will not hold you to anything you say.
24 Alex Karklins said at 12:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
My favorite quote from the videos: “Javon Kearse was a blistering bitch off the edge.” Awesome.
25 ACViking said at 12:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
An oddly complimentary term for a football player.
26 Patrick said at 12:48 PM on January 24th, 2016:
A perfectly good reason to love Jim Schwartz though!
27 Pennguino said at 1:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yea it’s pretty good.
Funny part for me is I use Blister as a nickname for POS coworkers.
Blister….Shows up after the work’s been done.
You have the grinders that push through and just keep cranking. Then ole blister comes waltzing in about 10 minutes before the deadline or project completion. Boss walks in and rewards everyone there. Even ole blister.
28 P_P_K said at 1:37 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I’m pretty sure I worked with the same guy.
29 BobSmith77 said at 5:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Needs more alliteration.
30 jaws80 said at 11:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
was a blistering bending-at-the-ankle bitch, beating the best blimely blockers off the edge
31 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:10 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Best DC hire since JJ. And its obvious even though he hasn’t coached a single game as an Eagle.
32 P_P_K said at 1:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Not intending to hijack the thread, but here’s a game day question: Is it legit to root for the Pats to win the SB so we can brag the Eagles ruined their perfect season?
33 Fufina said at 1:42 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I like teams that make history and there is part of me that would prefer we lost the Super Bowl to the best dynasty/QB/HC in football history without a shadow of a doubt, and since i dislike Denver and Carolina and hate the Cards it might be least worse outcome for me.
34 Bert's Bells said at 4:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I also like the idea of Eli having more SB than Peyton.
But I do like the Patriots losing three SuperBowls too. Puts them up there with the Bills.
35 Fufina said at 4:59 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Not really… SB losses hurt less when you have 4 in the bank.
36 Bert's Bells said at 5:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
yeah….
37 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Patri*ts are evil. No.
38 Joe Minx said at 2:52 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They didn’t. The Broncos beat them first.
39 P_P_K said at 4:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
You guys are all right. My hatred of the Pats must have screwed up my memory and I forgot all about the Broncos game.
40 Buge Halls said at 3:14 PM on January 24th, 2016:
No, because the Broncos beat them the week before the Eagles did. So the Broncos ruined the perfect season that never was, and will hopefully end their playoff run today..
41 RobNE said at 3:29 PM on January 24th, 2016:
If they were 15-1 maybe
42 izzylangfan said at 1:57 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Unbelievable videos. I guy who can think like that and has Cox, Graham, Barwin, and Logan – even if we can’t sign Curry he is going to put a pass rush and defense together. And I think he has an attitude that will give the defense an identity. I’m incorrigible because I’m getting excited for 2016.
43 jaws80 said at 11:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
dont even say “can’t sign Curry” – that is my biggest fear this off season, would care more about losing Curry than Bradford. Think Curry could be special with an attack defense.
44 Aaron said at 2:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
bb8
45 DJH said at 2:12 PM on January 24th, 2016:
How is an attacking, aggressive D going to work with the offense Pederson is going to install? A conservative, ball security, low scoring offense.
Andy’s Philly offenses tended to score quickly forcing teams to throw. Then JJ defense could rush the passer relentlessly.
I think an aggressive defense and conservative offense is a good match. We’ll win a lot of low scoring games in theory.
46 Greg Richards said at 2:16 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I wouldn’t assume that Pederson is going to be that conservative.
47 BobSmith77 said at 5:32 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Can’t see Bradford suddenly becoming a bombardier down the field.
Still needs to throw to someone too. Only real answer on the roster right now is Agholor.
48 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Or spend a lot of time playing catch up.
49 jaws80 said at 11:49 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hope Pederson continues the Chief’s offense proclivity for few interceptions. Focus on few interceptions, nothing special, give the defense enough of a rest, then let the defense attack, create turnovers and good field position. Very, very happy with a Pederson/Schwartz combo, with Pederson being the big overview guy, the “community/player/staff relationship” guy with control of a conservative, few turnover offense.
I would be very unhappy with a Pederson offense (or what i think a Pederson offense might be) and a read/react, second fiddle to the offense type of defense.
50 Baloophi said at 2:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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51 laeagle said at 2:20 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Done
52 Baloophi said at 3:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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53 79mr2t said at 2:35 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Done
54 Baloophi said at 3:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thanks, 79!
55 DJH said at 2:35 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Done.
56 Baloophi said at 3:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hats off, DJH!
57 Arno1982 said at 2:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Done. Keep up the good work Tommy.
58 Baloophi said at 3:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Gracias, Arno!
59 ACViking said at 2:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Ahoy, Baloophi.
Mission complete.
60 Baloophi said at 3:24 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Ahoy, ACV! Thanks, and I hope you’ve got some snowshoes…
61 jshort said at 3:50 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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62 Baloophi said at 6:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Ha! Or Lasik…
63 Mac said at 3:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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64 Baloophi said at 6:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thanks Mr. Mac!
65 CMR80 said at 4:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Done
66 Baloophi said at 6:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Good work, CMR!
67 Caligreenbirds said at 5:00 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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68 Baloophi said at 6:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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69 since1961 said at 5:22 PM on January 24th, 2016:
From the tobacco stalks to the cotton stubble! Away w’ ye!
70 Baloophi said at 6:59 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thanks, ’61!
71 The original AG said at 6:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Done.
72 Baloophi said at 6:59 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thanks AG!
73 jethrojonz said at 9:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Always a good read. Enjoy.
74 Baloophi said at 9:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thanks, JJ!
75 P_P_K said at 9:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
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76 Baloophi said at 12:14 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Great job, P_P_K!
77 CTAZPA said at 5:43 PM on January 26th, 2016:
Don’t comment much, but I always answer your call to support Tommy.
78 laeagle said at 2:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Very interesting talk about how the wide 9 was originally designed to take away elements of the run game, where we’ve all thought about it as a pass-targeted defense.
79 Lewwyn said at 2:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Listening to this, I just keep thinking about Cox. So much Cox. I can’t wait to see what happens next year. I just can’t help but feel he’s going to explode.
80 DJH said at 2:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Someone unfamiliar with the names of Eagles players overhearing those first couple sentences…
81 Dave said at 2:36 PM on January 24th, 2016:
You’re not the only one
82 Julescat said at 3:27 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I don’t get it?
83 Dave said at 4:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
serious?
84 daveH said at 4:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Agree but please rephrase the 2nd half of that first sentance
85 Mitchell said at 2:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
More vids like this Tommy, please. The technical side of football is so freaking cool.
86 SteveH said at 3:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
jesus, the broncos had all the momentum and then a stupid giveaway. It’s some kind of voodoo curse Bilicheck performs before every game.
87 FairOaks said at 3:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I couldn’t tell if the whistle blew before the recovery… or do the rules allow for a clear recovery (just no advance) if it was a fumble even if the whistles were blowing?
88 SteveH said at 4:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Recovery is allowed if its clear I believe, they changed the rule like 5 or 6 years ago if I remember right.
89 RobNE said at 4:11 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Broncos are idiots.
90 scratcherk said at 4:03 PM on January 24th, 2016:
should have got ipads…
91 scratcherk said at 4:08 PM on January 24th, 2016:
from #deflategate to #billgates
92 scratcherk said at 4:15 PM on January 24th, 2016:
broncos sure line up wide on their pass rush.
93 Greg Richards said at 4:24 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The Falcons hired Cowboys’ DBs coach as their pass defense coordinator. Sounds like his contract was up. Always nice to see the Cowgirls lose good coaches. Interesting thing is that Raheem Morris, who was thier pass defense coordinator last year, will now be the WRs coach(replacing Terry Robiskie who was hired as OC by TEN) and passing offense coordinator. So, it’s not just the Eagles who move coaches from one side of the ball to the other. Morris doesn’t have any previous experience on the offensive side of the ball. I do remember that Mike Nolan, who has been DC for a ton of teams, spent one year as WRs coach for Baltimore. In addition, Eric Mangini who’s background is as a DBs coach before becoming a DC and HC spent a year as TEs coach for the 49ers.
94 Fufina said at 4:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Have to say i love watching the Bronco pass rush, is so fun to see a team attack and disrupt so effectively.
95 P_P_K said at 9:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Vinny, Fletcher, Connor and Marcus (why not?) are thinking about next season, too.
96 Nu_B said at 4:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Awesome play by my boy Malik Jackson right there
97 SteveH said at 4:47 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I can’t remember the last time I saw the Patriots play this poorly. Lucky they’re only down 8. Watch Manning go out on a Super Bowl win.
98 Dave said at 4:57 PM on January 24th, 2016:
When you combine a suspect offensive line against a quality defensive front 7, the qb is in for a long day.
99 b3nz0z said at 5:40 PM on January 24th, 2016:
and my favorite type of game
100 Fufina said at 4:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Never Count Out Touchdown Tom…
101 BobSmith77 said at 5:35 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Not expecting miracles out of this defense next year. Just would be nice to see a relatively competent defensive unit all season long for the first time in severa years. Not one that notably gets weaker as the season progresses and gives up passing yards like some beginner-level video game defense at times.
The one area I could see taking a dip is the amount of turnovers the defense causes. One (and really only area) that this defense was consistent at doing generally under Davis even with personnel who I thought were a bit lacking in causing turnovers especially INTs.
102 The original AG said at 5:49 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Schwartz is an aggressive DC, so the TOs might stay up. At least I hope.
103 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:36 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Broncos win this game, Von Miller better be named MVP.
104 The original AG said at 5:47 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/SportsRadioWIP/status/691382471594651648
105 Crus57 said at 6:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I sincerely hope this type of story really winds MSII up and he comes back determined to prove everyone wrong, because a headline with someone guiltily claiming responsibility for your employment has gotta sting.
106 FairOaks said at 6:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He said this days ago… but I don’t think anything in the answer said he thought it was a mistake.
107 The original AG said at 5:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
As bad as the Patriots have been today, I can still see them winning this game.
108 RobNE said at 5:52 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think pats have 95 percent chance
109 The original AG said at 5:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I know this is from Eckel, but interesting if true.
https://twitter.com/GoEaglesNation/status/690945021583966208
110 Fufina said at 5:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
No way the cut smith or huff before camp… Hart seems unlikely for same reason… Tolvin is a RFA but he has been OK as a swing tackle so I would expect the min tender as well
111 FairOaks said at 5:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Eckel’s opinion only; nothing from a source. And I’d be really surprised if all of them are gone.
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/01/sam_bradford_and_other_eagles_who_wont_be_back.html#0
112 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 5:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Isnt Huff under a cheap contract?
I don’t understand a Smith cut either, with the team moving to 43.
113 Greg Richards said at 6:02 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He’s an idiot. If you read the article though, it’s “may”. Just speculation.
114 The original AG said at 6:04 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I don’t disagree. I don’t know how you cover a team as long as he has, and still doesn’t seem to have a clue.
115 BobSmith77 said at 6:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I don’t think he is an ‘idiot’ and could easy see everyone except 1-2 of these players being gone especially since it is a new coach and staff.
116 FairOaks said at 6:10 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Looking at it… Bradford he thinks due to cap reasons (possible, though a longer-term contract would probably leave a smaller first-year cap hit making other moves possible). Sproles because he thinks we should be in rebuilding mode, and a team would give us a draft pick (sorta doubtful, and if we have a young QB, veteran receivers can be quite helpful); Huff because of the rumor garbage the other day (seriously doubt we let Huff go); Sanchez because Pederson will prefer Daniels (this seems likely to me); Tobin because Pederson will have “his guys” in that slot (er… we’d need tons of new OL talent to push Tobin off the roster); Thornton because he’s a 3-4 guy; maybe cap reasons too (we’d want him in a 4-3 — only question is can we afford him); DeMeco because he’s a cap casualty (possible); Thurmond because of affordability, and says it will be a big loss (reasonably likely); Smith (because he took Roseman’s comment to mean Smith was a mistake; given he has guaranteed $$$ no way we let him go now); Hart since he’s a 3-4 guy (this is possible but not before final cutdowns).
117 The original AG said at 6:16 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think it’s too early to give up on Smith. Sproles is still huge for special teams and as a weapon.
I don’t think we need to rebuild, and I do like a lot of the talent we have. Fix the OLine and I think we’re back in the mix.
118 FairOaks said at 6:29 PM on January 24th, 2016:
If we don’t keep Bradford we are likely in a bit of a rebuild mode. Losing Thurmond would create a hole as well… we don’t have much in the backup area at safety.
Agree with you on Smith… only way he gets released is if there are so many other good players on the roster he can’t even make it as a backup, since cutting him saves zero cap. He hasn’t really been given a chance yet. Agree on Sproles too.
119 SteveH said at 5:59 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Broncos should challenge the spot, that was very generous.
120 SteveH said at 6:00 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Nevermind then.
121 RobNE said at 6:10 PM on January 24th, 2016:
My god stop the Pats. Somehow.
122 TXEaglesFan said at 6:14 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Dumbest challenge ever, just saved patriots time out
123 ACViking said at 6:15 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Worse.
If Amendola had possession . . . his knee hit the ground before the ball came out.
Denver could go from INC and 4th – and -6
to COMPLETION and 1st Down Pats
124 daveH said at 7:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yes yes YES . That was sooooo close ha!
125 FairOaks said at 6:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
It was called incomplete so I don’t think it affected Patriots time outs (though it gave them a TO before the 4th down play).
Little chance of success, but it just cost them a challenge they were not going to need and a timeout they might (though they also get to rest before the 4th down play, so the TO might have been worth it anyways).
126 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 6:21 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I wrongly assumed the Broncos were going to try and kill the clock
127 Fufina said at 6:22 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I feel Touchdown Tom is going to draw this up…
128 The original AG said at 6:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I just thought about this. Should we have a suicide watch for Media Mike? I think Cam is winning tonight.
129 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:24 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I hate the Patriots almost as much as I hate the Cowboys.
130 jpate said at 6:25 PM on January 24th, 2016:
What does it take for a intentional grounding call against pats?
131 Kohlhaas said at 6:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thank you! He’s had at least 4 that I’ve counted.
132 FairOaks said at 6:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
There have been receivers in the general area for most all of them. The refs will give QBs a fair bit of latitude when the defenders affect the pass (like has been on all of them). Brady does a better job of getting balls near receivers than Eli does, and Eli doesn’t get called for it either.
133 Kohlhaas said at 6:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Sorry. Common sense says that when he’s throwing it and he’s almost horizontal to the ground, then it should be intentional grounding, regardless of “how close” it was to a receiver.
134 FairOaks said at 6:42 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They used to have an “in the grasp” rule, but anyone who watched Cunningham play, that rule was even more frustrating. So, as long as you get a pass in the general vicinity of a receiver, it’s allowed (as is intentional grounding outside of the pocket) even though you know the QB is just throwing it away.
135 The original AG said at 6:32 PM on January 24th, 2016:
That missed extra point cost the Patriots.
136 Dave said at 6:50 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Considering much of their early trips to the Superbowls and corresponding wins were because of the leg of Vinatieri, this was overdue.
137 SteveH said at 6:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hah, fuck you Patriots.
138 RC5000 said at 6:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Go cry Brady and Gronk.
139 SteveH said at 6:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
My girlfriend has dubbed him Tom Bratty, now and forever.
140 The original AG said at 6:35 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/691097795219034112
141 SteveH said at 6:35 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I was pissed when Gronk came down with that lame duck in the endzone, but I guess no harm in the end, just more drama.
142 BobSmith77 said at 6:36 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Great game. Instant classic.
143 SteveH said at 6:37 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Manning now 3-1 against Brady in conference championship games. Not what you’d expect considering the narrative.
144 BobSmith77 said at 6:41 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Manning wasn’t great today but made enough plays & avoided any really hideous throws leading to INTs.
I thought for sure the Pats would take away the Broncos’ rushing attack (they did) and in the process force Manning into at least 1-2 INTs.
145 FairOaks said at 6:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The backwards pass wasn’t all that good. But yes, other than that.
146 The original AG said at 6:42 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL/status/691404074403540992
147 SteveH said at 6:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
If that was Bradford we’d be getting on him for holding the ball too long.
148 Dave said at 6:47 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Or the recievers being unable to get open
149 SteveH said at 6:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yeah, just depends on who you’re talking about most of the time.
150 daveH said at 7:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Well DEFINITELY for his O Line sucking.. broncs rusehed 3 all game and Pats o line was invisible
151 Aaron said at 7:08 PM on January 24th, 2016:
usa an idiotso
152 P_P_K said at 9:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I have to give Tom his props. He took a beating but stood tough and nearly got his team a win.
153 The original AG said at 6:49 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/691407011863498752
154 ACViking said at 6:52 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Five, if you include Manning himself.
155 ACViking said at 6:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
1. Manning should retire, win or lose in SB.
2. Never saw Belichick speak for as long as he did with any opposing player or coach after a loss as he did today with Manning . . . class move.
Also, today . . .
We saw two of the greatest QBs in NFL history — one at the end, the other near the end of remarkably long careers.
And two of the greatest defensive coaches in NFL history — Wade Phillips v. Belichick.
156 SteveH said at 6:52 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Maybe Belichick was telling him what a fucker he is and how he’s going to hire some Columbian gangbangers to slit him up in the offseason. I see that being more realistic than saying things like you played a great game or good luck in the Super Bowl.
157 Dave said at 6:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Funny thing, Joe Banner has been pretty outspoken on Twitter that Wade is not a great DC over the past 3 or 4 hours.
158 ACViking said at 6:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Have to agree to disagree with JB.
All Phillips has ever done is coach playoff defenses. (over-statement to make a point)
Six different teams.
159 Dave said at 7:03 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Crazy to think, but since 1981, he’s been a head coach 3 times, interim head coach 3 times, and a defensive coordinator for the rest of that time.
160 ACViking said at 7:08 PM on January 24th, 2016:
And pretty successful wherever he’s been with the players he inherited.
Never seemed to stick around in one place long enough for the GM to draft Phillips’s “players.” But had success anyway.
This Denver defense . . . very, very talented up front.
Next season, not so much.
161 b3nz0z said at 7:29 PM on January 24th, 2016:
that’s crazy. he’s a terrible HC but an amazing DC
162 BobSmith77 said at 6:57 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I should be interested to watch this Panthers vs Cards game but I have almost no interest. Probably because I am largely indifferent to either team enough though Newton is interesting to watch. Ditto the Cards’ offense.
163 SteveH said at 7:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I just realized I have 0 rooting interest in this game.
164 b3nz0z said at 7:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
arians is obnoxious?
165 SteveH said at 7:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Eh, that doesn’t do a lot for me.
166 Aaron said at 7:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
wonder why cam doesnt show respect when the national anthem is on
167 Dave said at 7:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I always wondered how he could chew gum while he played.
168 Aaron said at 7:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
smartass
169 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:26 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Lots of players don’t remove stuff from their heads, not just Cam
170 SteveH said at 7:14 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Broncos Panthers should be a great super bowl. 2 great defenses but I give the edge to the Panthers offense.
171 Kohlhaas said at 7:15 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I do love the giving the ball to the kids after a touchdown. Just the look on their faces is amazing. That’s a story they’ll be able to tell their whole life.
172 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:16 PM on January 24th, 2016:
100% agreed.
173 daveH said at 8:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hopefully that moment fades behind 54 bazillion greater moments in ther lives
174 jpate said at 7:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Smart play by Fitz, I always wondered why more players dont do that when they know its a dead play.
175 The original AG said at 7:27 PM on January 24th, 2016:
2nd week in a row Carolina jumps out to a big lead on a playoff team. This team is legit.
176 SteveH said at 7:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
So I’ve had a question for a while and maybe someone who knows more about football can answer this for me. Earlier the announcers said that Bruce Arians scripts his first 30 plays, and it reminded me of how Andy was notorious for scripting his first 15 plays. The thinking being that they would figure out how the defenses would play certain situations.
If everyone knows you script X number of plays though, why wouldn’t the D coordinators just prepare for that, and after X plays have been run, switch up the defenses they were calling? It seems like you’re setting yourself up for false positives by scripting.
177 Aaron said at 8:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
IMO, no one cares about this post
178 anon said at 7:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
How salty is Steve Smith when Panthers win the sb??
179 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:40 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Ask his wife
180 Aaron said at 7:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
didnt he knock her around early in his career, I may be wrong
181 Aaron said at 7:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
cam had all day to wait on that guy to come open
182 FairOaks said at 7:34 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yep, that’s the biggest story. You give QBs all day and many of them can beat you. Palmer had a couple guys open on deep throws but was off-target — make one of those and this might be a different game.
183 RC5000 said at 7:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Joe Webb on the tackle.
184 Aaron said at 7:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
yeah, anothe “fake qb” who beat the eagles
185 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
That’s the Kurt Coleman I remember. Bounce.
186 The original AG said at 7:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They just said Arians thinks Fitz is the best blocking WR in the NFL. I thought that was Riley Cooper.
187 Aaron said at 7:52 PM on January 24th, 2016:
arians, what an idiot, coop is the best
188 daveH said at 8:14 PM on January 24th, 2016:
We arent and don’t have ‘the best’ of anything
189 The original AG said at 8:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think we need a sarcasm font. I don’t think either of us were serious about that.
190 daveH said at 9:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
That just means ya played it perfectly and i fell for it poifectly.
Nice.
Really good idea for a sarcasm signal. Ha im data rich also yo
191 daveH said at 9:11 PM on January 24th, 2016:
You made a multi level sarcasm play and i only got part of it
192 jaws80 said at 11:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
you both are wrong, its is Huff, Cooper is number 2.
193 scratcherk said at 7:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
ive heard Philly mentioned multiple times this game and never in a good context.
194 Aaron said at 7:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Ive not mentioned them in good context this year either
195 scratcherk said at 7:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
losing davis is big for carolina.
196 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Maybe just a stinger
197 Aaron said at 7:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
or mightve broke it
198 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:57 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Trying to be optimist…
199 scratcherk said at 7:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
hopefully but i think its teh wrist/hand.
200 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:59 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I hope it just went dead/numb. Id hate for it to be broken
201 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:00 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Panthers need a slow grinding drive here to reassert control
202 RC5000 said at 8:02 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Dumb play by Peterson .
203 scratcherk said at 8:03 PM on January 24th, 2016:
or awesome if he makes it. but he didnt so i agree…
204 RC5000 said at 8:11 PM on January 24th, 2016:
No it was just a boneheaded play .
205 scratcherk said at 8:04 PM on January 24th, 2016:
wtf, ginn could have caught htat.
206 A_T_G said at 8:04 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He acted like he didn’t even see the ball.
207 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think he lost it
208 Aaron said at 8:05 PM on January 24th, 2016:
keep clapping and keep losing the game
209 A_T_G said at 8:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
That read option is an interesting play. We should try that.
210 Aaron said at 8:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
carolina takes way too much time to run it, we could run it in 20 secs
211 daveH said at 8:12 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thats the old us .. we are on andy reid delay of game after a timeout speed now
212 A_T_G said at 8:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
If those guys didn’t waste so much time running forward with the ball , even less
213 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
College offense
214 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
McDermott’s defense is looking kinda good.
215 Greg Richards said at 8:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Here’s the thing there: They have a HC whose background is on the defensive side. Steve Wilks is their asst HC/secondary. The asst HC is arguably above the DC on the food chain. It’s unknown how much he contributes on the defensive side. Now, the same argument could be applied to Pederson as Reid is an offensive guy and they had an asst HC/WRs coach in David Culley. Regardless of each guys’ merits and contributions on their side of the field, success as a coordinator does not necessarily equate to having the demeanor and tools necessary to be a good HC. The Eagles obviously thinks Pedersn has them and McDermott doesn’t. At least not to the same degree.
216 ACViking said at 9:15 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The reasoning behind the argument that Rivera has been carrying McDermott — even though McD calls the plays on game day — would seem to apply to every coordinator in the NFL (depending which side their HC coordinated).
Save for Reid and Harbaugh . . . every HC was either an OC or DC before taking over their team.
Under the Rivera Doctrine, that would seem to mean that the performance of every OC or DC (depending on the HC’s background) is an inflated illusion.
_______________
Regarding Pederson v. McD . . . totally agree with you.
217 Greg Richards said at 9:32 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Basically unless you are on the inside and have done actual interviews with the candidates and other people around the league or have first-hand experience with them, you don’t know enough to have an educated opinion. Not that that should stop anyone from offering one.
218 Anders said at 2:36 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Well in 99% of the cases hiring the hot DC/OC who works under a HC from the same side, does not work and in the case of the McDermott, we know he is a bad DC and know Rivera is a great DC.
219 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:00 AM on January 25th, 2016:
I wasn’t suggesting McD is ready for HC, but I do believe he’s not getting enough credit because of Rivera. He was well trained here by JJ and knows his X’s and O’s. His major failing here (more so than the redzone issues), and it would have been difficult for anyone following JJ, was in leadership skills – the key factor for being a HC. Until McD demonstrates better leadership skills, he’s not HC material.
For example, I think you can make the case that McD was a better, and perhaps significantly so, coordinator than Doug Pederson. Certainly Sean has more experience. But I would take Doug as HC over Sean for “emotional intelligence” which is just a fancy facet of leadership.
220 scratcherk said at 8:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
panthers are damn good.
221 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Palmer still doing his part though
222 scratcherk said at 8:18 PM on January 24th, 2016:
just surprised by the lack of national love this year.
223 The original AG said at 8:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Everyone hates Cam, so I think that plays into it.
224 Mac said at 8:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The guy is so full of himself I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t eat.
225 FairOaks said at 8:22 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I’m still not 100% sold on Cam if he has to make a comeback etc., but Carolina has an awesome defense, and a great OL and running game. That’s the type of team a Trent Dilfer can take to a Super Bowl, and Cam is waaaay better than that.
226 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:22 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They play in Charlotte. Fan base is still new.
227 Aaron said at 8:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
a ton of the fan base is new this year, since they started winning, if they lose, the fan base will be like, meh, who cares
228 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:25 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I meant in general. CAR isn’t that old of a team. They don’t have generations of built in/homegrown fan base .
229 Aaron said at 8:27 PM on January 24th, 2016:
yep, but the majority of them are redskin fans, but yeah, you’re right, it sucks that carolina might win a sb before philly,
230 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Blame the front office…. And hope another Cam Newton falls from Krypton
231 scratcherk said at 8:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
WOW PALMER FACE>
232 The original AG said at 8:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
What is going on in the game? That’s like 3 straight plays with a turnover.
233 scratcherk said at 8:20 PM on January 24th, 2016:
bench palmer.
234 xeynon said at 8:21 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The Carson Palmer meltdown is in full effect. We’re not winning a Super Bowl with a guy who’s upside is that.
235 RC5000 said at 8:24 PM on January 24th, 2016:
What QB has Brady/Brees/Rodgers upside?
236 xeynon said at 8:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
No one’s saying finding that guy will be easy. But we’ve got to keep trying. Committing long-term to Bradford is the NFL equivalent of the Sixers committing long term a few years back to Andre Iguodala and Elton Brand as their centerpiece players. Good enough to get you to the dance. Not nearly good enough to get you a date with the Prom Queen.
237 Dave said at 8:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Says you
238 xeynon said at 8:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Bradford’s never won a playoff game. He’s never even made the playoffs despite playing in crappy divisions his entire career. I think I’m on pretty solid ground in doubting him.
239 Dave said at 9:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I agree. Watching him play this year, he never made his recievers hands better. He never made the lineman block better. He never made DeMarco actually hit the holes. He never made the defense stop allowing 3rd down conversions and touchdowns. He never made the kicker not miss field goals and extra points. There is obviously nothing special about him. If there were, he would never had to rely on his teammates, he would have carried them on his back.
240 xeynon said at 9:21 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He didn’t get much help from his teammates. But he also threw plenty of bad picks, took plenty of bad sacks, and missed plenty of open receivers all on his own this year. When he was at his best, it was against bad defenses, and he didn’t even consistently play well against those. I never saw him make the kind of plays you need to make to actually contend for a title. He’s a middling starting QB. If he was on a cheap rookie contract and we’d only be rolling with him for another year or two to see if he’ll improve, I’d be fine with that. But committing 15% of the salary cap to a guy like that in the hopes that he finds another gear is lunacy IMO.
241 Dave said at 9:25 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Many, including myself, strongly disagree with your assessment of his play and his skill set.
242 FairOaks said at 9:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I don’t remember all that many bad picks of the bad-decision sort at all. Virtually none, other than maybe one or two early. Some early picks were due to his inaccuracy, something which went away late in the season. He took some sacks… slightly more than league average there. He did miss plenty of receivers.
I thought he played consistently well the last seven games, and still steadily improving, so I guess that is in the eye of the beholder — probably why I do want to keep him. If your impression of him was set early in the season, no changing that, I guess.
15% of the cap would be lunacy, but that would be $23 million. I don’t like more than 10% myself, but QB cap numbers across the league are set to take a massive jump this next year, so there is something of a market value being set. In a long-term deal, the first years are often a smaller cap hit as well, so it could be structured to not be too awful in any one year even if the numbers seem high.
On the other hand, Tom Condon has generally gotten team-unfriendly contracts for QBs, so that is a concern. Basically a Condon-Roseman battle there, and I’ll be rooting for Howie. A lot may depend on the willingness to franchise him.
243 FairOaks said at 8:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Not sure that Bradford has shown that INT propensity — but he’s never shown how he plays under more pressure (one reason I really wanted to make the playoffs this year).
So yes, it’s still a projection for Bradford. If Bradford’s ceiling is how Palmer played in the regular season (not this game), it’s still good. Reasonable people can disagree on that, of course — very little has been proven.
244 xeynon said at 8:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Bradford hasn’t shown Palmer’s propensity for big plays either.
My point was that it’s extremely difficult to win with a guy who’s a fringe top-10 QB. And I think if he stays healthy that’s basically his ceiling. I’d rather cycle through a few more bad QBs looking for the right one than waste time on a mediocre one.
245 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hard to have big plays when your OL cant block and your WRs lead the NFL in drops
246 xeynon said at 8:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He hasn’t played his entire career with the 2015 Eagles. He’s never been better than mediocre. His best stretches of play to this point have been somewhat above average, and he’s often been worse than that and has had health problems. I’m of the opinion that making a franchise QB-level commitment to a mediocre QB is one of the worst things an NFL team can do for its long-term competitiveness and that’s exactly what we’d be doing by re-signing Bradford to the type of contract he reportedly wants. Just because the Redskins are going to be dumb and do it with Kirk Cousins this offseason doesn’t mean we have to follow suit.
247 FairOaks said at 8:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
His career has been with teams much much worse than the 2015 Eagles. On both sides of the ball. He’s also had a new OC basically every season of his career (and with a defensive head coach) — he’s never settled into a system, which basically every single top QB has had the chance to do. That type of thing will sabotage a QB’s numbers and results. And yet he was still playing quite well by the end of the season (balanced by an awful start to the season).
I don’t think you can base his true production in a more stable coaching environment based on anything you’ve actually seen him do. His entire career has been the “adjusting to a new system” mode, where almost all QBs (including the tippy top ones) are not as good right away.
248 FairOaks said at 8:52 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Nope, and that is very true. Bradford was getting better about throwing the ball down the field — the YPA was creeping up all year — but that is somewhere you are projecting that Bradford will improve from what we’ve seen.
He did seem to be getting better all through the year, so if you are sold on him, you are counting on that to continue (as opposed to the end of the year just being a hot streak). I.e. you are hoping he improves to a no-question top-10 guy.
I can understand not wanting to pay big for that hope. But I can also understand not wanting to base hopes on a rookie in a year which might be more Ponder types — you swing and miss here, that search can easily take 10 or more years.
249 RC5000 said at 9:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
It’s extremely difficult to find top 5-7 QB and I don’t see Lurie being patient with just a relatively bad QB. It’s just not like him although there are limits on Bradford’s contract. They could go with Daniel but KC still preferred Alex Smith. It’s easy to say I want the next Tom Brady or Drew Brees but you have to have a QB in the meantime.
I think Bradford can make big plays like Palmer given a better offense. He’s right there with him if he stays healthy but again he needs better teammates and offense.
250 xeynon said at 9:15 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yes, we do need a QB in the meantime. But committing to Bradford for, say, 4 years/$72 mill. prolongs that meantime. That will mean four years not quite getting there with a guy who’s not quite good enough, during which time we won’t be taking swings on finding a guy who could be a top 5-7 QB.
251 FairOaks said at 9:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
It all depends on how much of that is guaranteed — that is what sinks the team, not so much the overall dollar amount. I definitely would prefer a deal we can get out of after two years, without long-term cap damage. I’m not sure that Bradford has shown enough to warrant any more than that. Lots will depend on the contract he’s willing to sign, naturally. And we need to draft a QB either way.
252 xeynon said at 9:25 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yeah, the guaranteed money is the big thing. I have a feeling he’s going to want quite a bit of that though.
253 FairOaks said at 9:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Want, sure. But going to get?
254 RC5000 said at 9:27 PM on January 24th, 2016:
No we don’t know what the market is for him but let’s say it’s too much, who do you want at QB? Daniel?
255 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think Sam is better than people give him credit for
256 since1961 said at 8:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
And the typical first-round rookie QB worse……
257 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
This is just who he is. He is going to give the other defense a chance
258 SteveH said at 8:22 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Carson Palmer must be so frustrating for a coach. Sometimes awesome, sometimes inexplicably terrible.
259 Tdoteaglefan said at 8:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Lol jesus christ carson… way to kill your momentum
260 Dan in Philly said at 8:28 PM on January 24th, 2016:
So watching these games, I miss when my Eagles had a great defense like these.
261 Kohlhaas said at 8:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
why is it Kurt Coleman was so mediocre to bad when he played here but he’s a probowler somewhere else?
262 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He isn’t responsible for a rushing lane anymore.
263 RC5000 said at 8:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Has a lot of talent around him and Rivera. He has Kuechly to make tackles.
264 FairOaks said at 8:41 PM on January 24th, 2016:
He is generally in a good position — he has a nose for the game. He will just be physically overpowered though when it comes to tackling. Happened early — running back bounced off him and got several more yards, though he did prevent a bigger gain. He did have 7 INT with the Eagles, so it’s not new.
265 P_P_K said at 9:27 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Pat Chung is starting for the Pats.
266 Anders said at 2:33 AM on January 25th, 2016:
He is a good safety when not asked to both run support and be deep like under Castillo.
The Panthers front seven is the best in the NFL
267 jpate said at 8:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Arians talking shit down 17 points smh
268 since1961 said at 8:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Part of what makes him so appealing. I saw on one of the national sites that he’s ‘a nice guy’. Barf.
269 scratcherk said at 8:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Panthers are like the Eagles teams under McNabb. Good mobile QB, nobodies at WR, solid TE, aggressive defense.
270 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think their WRs are decent. Ginn is downright scary
271 scratcherk said at 8:48 PM on January 24th, 2016:
they are WR3s, 2s at best. Cam makes them good.
272 SamoanEagle said at 8:49 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I bet when Avant was there, they wished they could of put his hands on Ginns body. lol
273 scratcherk said at 8:49 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I suppose they do have Kelvin but not for this season.
274 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:50 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Maybe Funchess can develop. I thought that was a terrible pick btw.
275 scratcherk said at 8:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
looks better in the second half of the season. but just like ags, i dont put much into rookie WR seasons
276 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
True. I just didn’t like him as a WR compared to some of the other guys In the draft
277 A_T_G said at 8:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Man, who is that stone-handed Fitsgerald guy? Cut him.
278 scratcherk said at 8:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
related to Fitzgerald?
279 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:00 PM on January 24th, 2016:
That just happened
280 jpate said at 9:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Wow.
281 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:02 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Maybe Ron should sit Cam for the rest of the game…
282 jpate said at 9:03 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Or at least stop calling the QB draws up this much
283 anon said at 9:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
What happened???
284 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Cam ran for a first on 3rd and 10. And then he flies into the endzone over a guy on the next play
285 The original AG said at 9:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They just ran the same play twice in a row, and AZ couldn’t stop it.
286 truehaynes said at 9:04 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Media Mike…
287 Media Mike said at 6:33 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Is livid!
288 daveH said at 9:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Cam Newton stfd’d his towel guy on a high 5 … he will be intolerable if he wins .. hard to take him
289 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Quick, lock him up
290 daveH said at 10:03 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Or make him be the face that ensures i keep never ever buying papa johns
291 The original AG said at 9:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/status/691441405886124034
292 anon said at 9:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Roob posting from all over the place.
293 The original AG said at 9:11 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I follow him because he does a good job picking up weird stats like this (and others).
294 P_P_K said at 9:26 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The Eagles next year… I mean the turn around, not the 3-8-1.
295 Ryan Rambo said at 9:33 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Gotta believe they can improve offensivelyif Kelvin can return from his injury. I like what Shula does with their offense.
296 daveH said at 9:06 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Another FitzGerald drop
297 FairOaks said at 9:20 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Stunning. When things snowball, it seems to affect everyone. Just like the Eagles took turns screwing up this year.
298 scratcherk said at 9:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
wtf was going on with camera work there… wait a few seconds before you go on a break guys
299 daveH said at 9:14 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Am i wrong or does Cam come across as a massive di cv k ?? Like if he was an eagle..nha i almost kept going
300 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:16 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Yeah… what kind of guy wear cleats covered in his teammates’ names? And then he keeps shoving dirty footballs into these kids faces… he doesn’t even ask their parents if its ok.
301 Dave said at 9:27 PM on January 24th, 2016:
What do you expect, he is “an entertainer and an icon”.
302 daveH said at 10:01 PM on January 24th, 2016:
His cleats really? Cool. Glad to be misreading him
303 Media Mike said at 6:20 AM on January 25th, 2016:
You’re not wrong.
304 The original AG said at 9:18 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/JohnHayesESPN/status/691441482352463876
305 scratcherk said at 9:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
my math may be funny but i think he’s two wins from that…
306 The original AG said at 9:20 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think the assumption is that they win this game.
307 scratcherk said at 9:21 PM on January 24th, 2016:
agreed, just sayin. counting chickens and such.
308 jpate said at 9:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Just the mere fact he emphasized one win when it’s obviously incorrect.
309 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:26 PM on January 24th, 2016:
#ballhawk
310 scratcherk said at 9:29 PM on January 24th, 2016:
um if momentum carries you into the endzone, it should be a touchback, no?
311 A_T_G said at 9:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I think they decided momentum carried him to the 1 and having his face ripped off carried him the rest.
312 scratcherk said at 9:37 PM on January 24th, 2016:
why go for two… stupid.
313 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Trolling?
314 scratcherk said at 9:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
hope no one gets hurt.
315 scratcherk said at 9:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
dont get me wrong, i love it against arians
316 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I guess because AZ wont let the game end
317 FairOaks said at 9:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Trying to prove they aren’t a bad second-half team?
318 jpate said at 9:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Maybe they want to run it for practice in real game time situation..
319 A_T_G said at 9:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Two point conversion might cause some hurt feelings.
320 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They don’t make band aids for that
321 RC5000 said at 9:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Kind of ashame old man Fitz isn’t going to SB.
322 Dave said at 9:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hopefully he doesn’t get mad tonight and toss his girlfriend across the room by her hair.
323 iceberg584 said at 9:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Eh, he went to what should have been Dawkins, McNabb, Runyan, and Tra Thomas’ final Super Bowl seven years ago.
324 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:42 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Im loving it..cam, and greg olsen are helping me win $700 on fanduel
325 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
And Palmer
326 scratcherk said at 9:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
dude just fell out of the stands…
327 anon said at 9:43 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Everyone getting Tds in carolina, Lk, Tolbert, Funchess
328 scratcherk said at 9:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
peyton is thinking about going on IR before the superbowl
329 anon said at 9:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
yeah CAR gotta be a big favorite in the SB. Wasn’t this team terrible last year? Lost Greg Hardy, lost their best receiver. Should have just mad chip move his office into the lockerroom everything would have been better.
330 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:47 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They kept their coach. The Front office isn’t a mess. And Cam put the whole city on his back
331 The original AG said at 9:47 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Did Rex Grossman steal Carson Palmer’s uniform?
332 anon said at 9:48 PM on January 24th, 2016:
might be matt barkely time.
333 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:50 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Hopefully they don’t get the ball back
334 scratcherk said at 9:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
would have been great if there was a conditional pick that got escalated if he played a playoff game.
335 scratcherk said at 9:48 PM on January 24th, 2016:
wow wow wow. just fucking bench him already.
336 anon said at 9:49 PM on January 24th, 2016:
hope hes not a FA , not sure you even want to bring him back after the playoff games he’s had
337 iceberg584 said at 9:50 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Just think, we had a pretty big hand in Arizona’s ultimate downfall. Carson injured his finger against us (which is clearly affecting him) and Mathieu blew out his knee on the last play of the game.
338 anon said at 9:50 PM on January 24th, 2016:
dont tell media mike
339 Media Mike said at 6:19 AM on January 25th, 2016:
This entire situation is borderline the Moors sweeping across all of Europe and not being stopped by Charles Martel. The entire fate of Western Civilization / playing the game the right way is in the hands of the Broncos to protect.
340 Fufina said at 9:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Think Cam and the Panthers aint getting beat by any team in this play offs. Defensively they are just beastly with their turn overs, and Cam… well is playing out of his fucking mind right now.
341 jpate said at 9:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Finger thing seems blown up. Decision making was terrible
342 Mac said at 9:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
JPP better not read this.
343 The original AG said at 9:51 PM on January 24th, 2016:
To add insult to injury.
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/status/691451828609925120
344 b3nz0z said at 10:20 PM on January 24th, 2016:
woof
345 Ark87 said at 10:23 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Coleman, Rivera, McDermott, the Eagle reject are going to the Suberbowl as heroes. When you explain to someone what it is to be an Eagles fan, this is the essence of it.
346 Dude said at 1:57 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Christ on a bike… It’s so true
347 Anders said at 2:06 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Since when is Rivera an Eagles reject? McDermott is the only one who was serious crap
348 Media Mike said at 6:17 AM on January 25th, 2016:
I thought I was watching a ghost because I’m pretty sure that Coleman should have committed seppuku in shame after all of his missed tackles and blown coverages here.
349 The original AG said at 9:53 PM on January 24th, 2016:
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/status/691453308737843200
350 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Where does he get this stuff
351 The original AG said at 9:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I don’t know. He is uniquely gifted in digging up weird stuff like this.
352 anon said at 9:54 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Panthers arond since 95 and have been to more Sbs than us.
353 truehaynes said at 9:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They’ve been to 3 sbs?
354 BobSmith77 said at 11:31 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Really is depressing when you look at the list of teams who have been SBs all-time:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/super-bowl/standings.htm
– t-16 with 4 other teams with 2 SB appearances
– t-20 with having never won a SB
355 anon said at 9:55 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Interesting stat for those that don’t like “running qbs”
Last 4 Sbs
cam
RW
RW
Keap
356 anon said at 9:56 PM on January 24th, 2016:
that said the counterparts have been pretty immobile.
357 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:58 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I consider both RW and Cam legit Qbs who just happen to be able to run
358 FairOaks said at 9:59 PM on January 24th, 2016:
… vs Manning, Brady, Manning, and Flacco. So far immobile has 2-1 record vs them.
Granted, this year Manning is a shell of his former self (otherwise that team would be unbeatable).
359 daveH said at 10:09 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I wont hold my breath for manning to mention Ware and Miller
360 Media Mike said at 6:16 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Wilson isn’t a “running QB”. He’s a Steve Young type.
361 jpate said at 10:00 PM on January 24th, 2016:
I still can’t fathom when and how Carolina got this good. I mean I know Cam, Luke, Davis, good drafting and all but it was like in blink of an eye they turned in to a juggernaut.
362 FairOaks said at 10:02 PM on January 24th, 2016:
They have generally depended on their defense, and it’s great this year. The other big thing is that they were supposed to have a suspect OL, but it looks like they figured that out as the year went along — if you give Cam all day to throw (and a good running game), it’s going to be tough.
Will be *very* interesting to see if Denver can apply pressure, and see if things look different if they do.
363 scratcherk said at 10:05 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The OL should get a lot of credit. I’ve seen a lot of Panthers games and Cam got a lot of time. Not to mention the holes for the RBs. Just a solid team all around.
364 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Imagine if they still had Kelvin on the other side of ginn
365 ACViking said at 10:10 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Last week, KC couldn’t get past NE’s o-line to pressure Brady.
This week NE couldn’t block Denver much at all.
366 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:20 PM on January 24th, 2016:
NE could use that missing 1st on an OT
367 Ark87 said at 10:17 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Got to clarify something as the resident north carolinian: The O has been quite good all year finishing 8th DVOA. And it is all Cam. He has been incredible, no qualifiers. Not because he had all day and a run game.
368 iceberg584 said at 10:32 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Isn’t Tommy from North Carolina?
369 Ark87 said at 10:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
yep, but he doesn’t need to patrol the comment section to lay down some Panthers knowledge. God knows it was bad enough watching the Panthers every week instead of the Eagles game for the majority of the weeks T.T
370 Patrick said at 10:07 PM on January 24th, 2016:
That offense is all Cam. I mean, Olsen and Stewart is great and their interior OL is very good, but overall that offense have weaknesses, but Cam is just so good and such a terrible matchup nightmare. Obviously Shula has done a good job, but you can’t do the same with other QB in the league. An entire scheme build around a truly unique skill set from a great, great player.
Add that to a Ron Rivera defense, with some incredibly talented players in Short, Kuechly, Davis, Norman, alongside the overall very disciplined and well coached principles of Rivera and you have a SB team.
A great QB and a at worst very good defense, thats how you win a SB.
371 BobSmith77 said at 11:26 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Very disciplined and well coached defensive unit really stood out today to me since I still don’t think this is the most amazing front 7 from a pure talent perspective.
Just play very well as a unit, stick to their assignments, and cover the field very well from sideline to sideline with a lot of speed at LB.
372 AsianEagle said at 6:30 AM on January 25th, 2016:
And Kurt Coleman… that dude is ballin’!! I’m happy for him. He’s a smart team player who has capitalized on his opportunities.
373 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Big year for Under Amour. Best NBA player. Now the best NFL player(this year) in the biggest game. People who don’t like Cam are going to be extra sick(salty) of seeing him in commercials.
374 Media Mike said at 6:14 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Yet another reason why I’m livid Arizona lost.
375 Joe Minx said at 10:37 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Watching that Cards-Panthers game with my guest party the word mollywhopped made an appearance.
376 Tdoteaglefan said at 10:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Cam gave footballs to all the kids in his sight… while carson palmer gave the ball to every defensive player in his sight
377 Flyin said at 11:12 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Happy the Panthers won. And the the way they won. Dominating!
378 BobSmith77 said at 11:19 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Waiting for Palmer to turn back into a pumpkin . . .
And does anyone think this SB match up is going to be a remake of the Seattle-Denver SB of a few years ago?
Shocked at how bad Carolina beat up the Cards on both sides of the ball today.
379 Media Mike said at 6:14 AM on January 25th, 2016:
It had better not be. I need a Denver win.
380 anon said at 11:30 PM on January 24th, 2016:
thomas davis broken arm – uh oh.
381 Flyin said at 11:32 PM on January 24th, 2016:
that was obvious when it happened.
382 BobSmith77 said at 11:41 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Davis says he is going to play. I can’t think a gimp LB is going to be that effective.
383 Mitchell said at 1:49 AM on January 25th, 2016:
What kind of break?
384 RichEagle said at 2:02 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Reports are broken right forearm. No specifics.
385 BobSmith77 said at 11:35 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Love to see the number of actual plays where the Broncos basically triple-team covered Gronk. I counted at least 3-4.
386 anon said at 11:36 PM on January 24th, 2016:
lots of jamming against timing routes — a tactic we could have used this year
387 BobSmith77 said at 11:38 PM on January 24th, 2016:
‘faux press’ coverage was much more effective instead where maxwell would try to press cover and the WR would just run right by him instead.
388 anon said at 11:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
ah yes, billy davis’ “phantom defense”
389 Flyin said at 11:45 PM on January 24th, 2016:
what happened to … “no more swinging gates” for receivers. Billy, go far, far away.
390 Flyin said at 11:37 PM on January 24th, 2016:
yet he still made some of the biggest plays of the game.
391 BobSmith77 said at 11:39 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Brady was looking way too much for at times today. It was almost comical in the 2nd half.
Your right though including that huge catch on 4 & 10 to set up the TD late.
392 Flyin said at 11:40 PM on January 24th, 2016:
and the td
393 Media Mike said at 6:45 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Gronk is flat out one of my favorite non-Eagles playing. He’s right up there with Russel Wilson, Richard Sherman, etc. in terms of guys who I really enjoy watching play.
394 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 11:44 PM on January 24th, 2016:
The Super Bowl is going to be almost unwatchable this year. Oh well, I can take the dog out for a good run instead.
395 TypicalDouche said at 11:46 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Thanks for the useless information that you won’t be watching the SB. I for one will be regardless.
396 Flyin said at 11:47 PM on January 24th, 2016:
Get a monkey and hump it, you douche.
397 Dude said at 2:00 AM on January 25th, 2016:
The Super Bowl is going to be a defensive, grind it out, least mistakes made, masterpiece.
398 A_T_G said at 4:25 AM on January 25th, 2016:
What makes it unwatchable? I am more interested than most years.
399 Media Mike said at 6:51 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Scam Newton / Carolina winning would be unbearable, but the game itself would never be unwatchable.
400 A_T_G said at 9:04 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Even you need to admit, the scam moniker doesn’t fit any more. Cam is a legit QB. He reads the defense, makes the calls, goes through progressions, and throws with accuracy, power and anticipation.
He also happens to be faster than the strong guys and stronger than the fast guys, but he could have won that game without leaving the pocket.
401 botto said at 12:10 PM on January 29th, 2016:
that whole, bigger, better, faster thing is actually a scam. he Is, in real life, slower and weaker then most… inside his shell uniform and pads, he is Mike Vick. that’s the scam.
402 BreakinAnklez said at 10:08 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Not sure why people continue to hate on one of the few players who truly loves playing the game. He gives his all 100% of the time and if that means he’s gonna have fun with it, than so be it.
403 RichEagle said at 11:37 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Cam stated hard work and coaching won the game. Yup, a scam.
404 botto said at 12:08 PM on January 29th, 2016:
unwatchable because the panthers will blow them out?
405 Insomniac said at 12:30 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Broncos star studded mercenary team vs Panthers homegrown nobodies. The team that has the OL playing that day will win.
406 anon said at 4:29 AM on January 25th, 2016:
just watched the jim schwartz video — interesting what run plays colts played w/ peyton, izr, ozr, draw
407 Anders said at 4:30 AM on January 25th, 2016:
But somebody told me you cant be successful with only a couple run plays….
408 D3FB said at 6:31 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Jesus Christ I love Schwartz.
409 Media Mike said at 6:32 AM on January 25th, 2016:
I’m excited to have a guy on D who can take his personality and football acumen and have those both be positive qualities that he passes along to his players.
410 D3FB said at 6:37 AM on January 25th, 2016:
After watching him holding court, I’d run through a brick wall. And I’m an OL by trade. And it’s not just bullshit bravado, it’s incredible X’s and O’s too.
That was straight up football porn for me.
I must retire to the fainting room now.
411 Anders said at 7:35 AM on January 25th, 2016:
I cant wait for your full break down of his defense
412 Media Mike said at 6:37 AM on January 25th, 2016:
So please scratch Rashad Johnson off of the free agents I’d like to sign. That dude was putrid in covering / tackling last night.
413 Iggles Blitz » Blog Archive » More on the Defense said at 7:41 AM on January 25th, 2016:
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414 Robert T. Reed said at 8:09 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Looks like this is what was missing when we ran the Wide-9 before. All we had was a DL coach (Washburn), but as J. Schwartz explains it, it’s a total rush package. You have to combine your coverage concepts with your rush based on the oppponent. I doubt that was done here.
415 Anders said at 8:30 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Yep pretty much, Castillo had no clue how to combine the coverage with the rush because he hadnt developed it like Schwartz did
416 BreakinAnklez said at 10:06 AM on January 25th, 2016:
Or because you know, he was an offensive line coach….