Another Keeper
Posted: February 22nd, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 261 Comments »The Eagles continued the recent trend of giving out contract extensions, this time taking care of Malcolm Jenkins.
#Eagles S Malcolm Jenkins signed a 4-year extension worth $35M, source said. $21M in guarantees. Was to make $5.5M this year, now makes $10M
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 22, 2016
Another good move and another reason to feel good the new direction the Eagles are taking. This year the Eagles have rewarded their own players. That builds pride and confidence. When a team is always looking for answers from the outside, I think that sends a bad signal to the team. That isn’t to say you don’t make moves, even some bold ones, but you want to build through the draft and keep key veterans as much as possible.
The Eagles signed Jon Runyan in 2000 and then gave him another contract a few years later. Troy Vincent signed with the Eagles in 1996 and then got another deal years later. Those were good players and key leaders. Even though the Eagles didn’t draft them, they spent the majority of their careers in Philly and were huge reasons the Eagles were so successful during the Andy Reid era.
Jenkins just had his two best seasons. He is playing the best football of his career. There will be a scheme change and that could affect his productivity, but he is still very much the kind of player you want on your defense. Jenkins is smart and acts as a coach on the field. He is a leader off the field as well. With a slew of young DBs, Jenkins is someone you want to help lead and influence those players, just as Vincent was there for Bobby Taylor, Al Harris and Brian Dawkins.
From a schematic standpoint, Jenkins offers value because of his versatility. He can play in the box, deep or in the slot. He plays the run well and has good cover skills. You can pair Jenkins with a big Safety who is a good run defender or with a smaller guy who specializes in coverage. That kind of flexibility is very helpful in today’s NFL, where finding good Safeties seems to be so difficult.
Speaking of who to pair Jenkins with, he did say he would love to have Walter Thurmond back. We’ll have to wait and see how that situation plays out. Thurmond seems to want to test the market. He also might want to move back to CB, a less physically demanding position than S.
Jenkins was asked about Sam Bradford and said he thinks everyone in the building wants Bradford back.
While Jenkins didn’t rip Chip Kelly, he did talk about the changes in a positive way. He’s happy that the Eagles are focused on keeping their own players. He’s also looking forward to playing fewer snaps this season. Jenkins did say he’s felt the best of his career in the past two seasons. Kelly’s Sports Science program could end up being his key legacy in Philadelphia. That really does seem to have made a difference with some players.
The Eagles still have Thurmond, Bradford and Fletcher Cox as players to try to extend/re-sign, but Howie Roseman has done a great job so far of keeping the right players around.
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Outside of new scheme and the strong likelihood that our defense will not have to play as many snaps per game as they did under Chip I am not sure why so many people just assume the Eagles will be a top 10 defense and that much improved this upcoming season. Heck, some people are even saying the Eagles defense could be top 5 or a dominating type of defense. I guess I don’t see that considering how may games we gave up a ton of points last year. I think we will be better for the reasons I just listed, but top 5? top 10? Our secondary was sub-par and the second half of the season we could not stop the run which was really surprising. I should also note that promising 2nd year LB Jordan Hicks will be back and he certainly looks like he could be a special player, but we need another starting safety, d line depth , and CB depth also. There is strong reason to believe the defense will be better, but it may be a stretch to jump to a top 5-10 defense with essentially the same players returning IMHO.
Schwartz, Schwartz, & more Schwartz.
I’m not sure what’s better for our defense, adding Schwartz, or getting rid of Chip…. Either way, Both are welcome changes to be excited about
The Eagles had top 10 defenses the last two years before crashing in the end.
I agree, I’ll believe top 10 when I see it. Yes, we do have the parts to begin building a very good defense: strong DL play, promising young LBs, stud safety. The corners are coming along. But not counting any chickens yet. Can’t wait for August
Mostly I think fans are just excited knowing that some of our Talented defenders like curry will be placed in a better position to use their talents.
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Before even knowing what the defensive roster will look like, i can’t say they will have a top,10 defense, but if they don’t have one next year, I assume at some point our new DC will build that quality defense for us..
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A better DC, good playërs being used in better ways that better suit their strengths, is an exciting time,,I would also think what we have on defense is closer to what we saw the first half of the season, then the second half meltdown..
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If we don’t have a top Defense this year, im confident our DC will built that defense at some point..
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For me, my biggest source of excitement is no longer having a HC who will tell the defense how to operate which I hated about chip. Pederson will leave Schwartz alone to do his thing, and that’s a very exciting change from the days of chip demanding a two gap 3-4, singke high, press man… If THATS how we decide to play defense, Fine, but I want the DC making that decision, not Chip… His silly offensive philosophies did enough damage to our defense without him demanding certain defensive schemes even tho our Talent was better suited to play a different scheme..
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A HC who will leave schwartz alone to run his defense, we are in good hands. And that’s very exciting after what we been thru
Give it time. It’s a building process, not an over night success story.
It’s very simple math.
We add switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and multiply that by the Schwartz hire.
Now we can take the reins off Cox and allow him to attack the QB on every down, as opposed to read and react the 3-4 required of him.
We clearly did not utilize Cox the way he should be deployed.
This will have a ripple effect, putting much more pressure on the QB to throw early, which will alleviate pressure on our secondary to cover for extended amounts of time.
If you cut the amount of time your secondary has to cover a receiver then you have changed the entire dynamic of your defense.
Top ten is a realistic possibility with Schwartz orchestrating this defense.
IMHO.
My biggest concern with Jenkins extension, and retaining Thurmond to an even bigger extent is the projection of Safety play in the new scheme. An attacking 4-3 is better for CB’s and DL, but puts a lot of pressure on LB’s and S’s in the run game, where they will have primary gap responsibilities at times.
Jenkins and Thurmond last year really just worried about the pass and if things broke down in the run game then they needed to help clean up any big runs but they had one focus and they did it really well. Not sure how well either guy is going to transition to playing in the box run defense on 1st and 2nd down, especially since teams will try to run to slow down the pass rush and wear out our DT’s. Not saying Jenkins will become a bad player… he will still be a decent one, but maybe not a 8mil a year safety in the new scheme.
Jenkins played a ton in the box the last two years and there is great chance that Thurmond wants too much.
You also give too much credit to other teams. This is a passing league, they will pass first and run second
Jenkins made a lot of plays in the box last year and around the LOS. He his nose there whenever he wasn’t playing Nickel. The guy was in the backfield more than our LBs.
Loved His wrap up tackle on Shady
I think schwartz has that covered. By this Point in his career, im pretty sure he knows what he NEEDS and what he can’t work with …. If we see the Eagles give thurmond a big deal, I would assume Schwartz signed off on it.
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A player like Thurmond who can play almost anywhere in the secondary is extremely valuable especially with all the injuries in this game, but I assume it’s more likely that we lose him, then it is that we are able to retain him..
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Hopefully he doesn’t find the market he is looking for and returns at a reasonable number, but Im not counting on that.
Would anyone have a problem with moving Rowe to S, sign Thurmond for the slot. Shepard and Maxwell at CB?
Looking at the safeties Schwartz had in Detroit, I don’t think any of them are prototypical box safeties. In fact, from what I read, most were about Jenkins’s size, and were listed as free safeties. I very easily could be wrong about these guys, because I’m completely reliant on my googling skills in making these evaluations, but it doesn’t seem like Schwartz needed big thumpers at S within the last 10 years. Early 2000s, with TEN, he had some, but that was a long time ago, in NFL time.
I wonder if they could re-sign Thurmond as a CB and grab a veteran role player type to play S next to Jenkins. I do think Thurmond might be a little small to play S for Schwartz, based upon what he had in DET.
Think there is,a better chance of us retaining nolan than Thurmond, but Id love to have both or either back..
I guess on Carroll but he is only a backup who can play outside. Still doesn’t fill the nickel corner slot which is a glaring need right now.
Thurmond too if the dollars/years right. He actually stayed healthy last year for a change.
Shepherd was slated for the nickel corner slot last year — he’s still on the team. You want some competition there in training camp for sure, in case he doesn’t come back from the injury, but you also don’t sign a high-priced veteran either.
[…] Another Keeper – Iggles BlitzFrom a schematic standpoint, Jenkins offers value because of his versatility. He can play in the box, deep or in the slot. He plays the run well and has good cover skills. You can pair Jenkins with a big Safety who is a good run defender or with a smaller guy who specializes in coverage. That kind of flexibility is very helpful in today’s NFL, where finding good Safeties seems to be so difficult. Speaking of who to pair Jenkins with, he did say he would love to have Walter Thurmond back. We’ll have to wait and see how that situation plays out. Thurmond seems to want to test the market. He also might want to move back to CB, a less physically demanding position than S. […]
Can any of the top tackle prospects in the draft play guard temporarily? Or is the body type way too wrong to be inside short term?
Kiper keeps mocking Conklin to us, and yesterday he claimed that Conklin can play 3 positions, Guard, RT and LT, and that Conklin is a great fit to start his career at Guard,… I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it’s Kipers opinion
I would agree but at 13, there most likely better prospects. Conklin would be a pretty damn good day 2 guy.
I wouldn’t know, but I appreciate the Intel
I don’t think he last till day 2. Especially if he shows the athleticism people keep raving about at the combine. If he looks like a legit LT I think he goes in round 1
Conklin?
I’m not saying I want him at 13… but I wont be surprised if he is taken in the mid -late first
Agreed, but top level athleticism or feet isn’t his game.
Maybe I’m confusing Conklin and Decker as which is the better prospect
I’m pretty meh on both. Decker is really long and that’s a big part of his appeal at T. I think both he and Conklin are pretty fringy as LTs.
A lot people are gaga over grabbing a T in the first because we need one.
I’m okay taking whatever top talent is there at 13(Alexander, Apple) and grabbing OL in rounds 3-5; or trading back
If we’re going to pick an OL just to pick one at 13 just say screw it and take Whitehair. He’s going to be a very good G.
For me it’s basically take a QB or move back.
There is no defensive players you would take if are there?
I’ve done pretty minimal work on that side of the ball. I would be down with Lawson. I really like Billings he’s just a bit awkward use of resources cuz he’s really a 1tech only for us. I like the little bit of what I’ve seen of Alexander but haven’t really dug in. I really like Darian Thompson, it’s probably a tad early but he’s really good. Although if we take a S that high, in this town, he’s gonna get booed if he makes a tackle that is only for a 2 yard loss because Dawkins would have had a 35 yard TFL.
Correa makes my body feel funny…… In all the right ways.
Yes QB> than everything else. If they have a QB they like or within reach nothing else should matter.
This is why we need to get Mitchell Schwartz in FA.
I like him at guard more than tackle from the little I have seen
He was way too heavy this year. His 2014 Ohio State film tilts better towards being able to play tackle, but I still see him as a decent G or meh RT. I could be talked into it in the 20s, would prefer it in the 2nd but I’m just not taking him at 13.
Stanley I wouldn’t play at G.
Conklin could do it but I’m not a very big fan.
Deckers probably too tall. It would be awkward. Not a big fan either
Spriggs reminds me alot of Jake Fisher from last year, so probably in the right scheme.
There will be plenty of good options in the late 2nd or 3rd rounds that are more natural guards. No need to take an OL in rd 1 just to say you did.
Pederson and Roseman will speak at the combine tomorrow starting at 4:30
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chip kelly is the Only coach who won’t speak to the media at the combine. Only Baalke is being made available to the media, is Baalke keepimg chip on a media leash? Has he said anything since his introductory press Confrence? Must be shitty for Niners fans to have a new coach who is Barely speaking
Did you see their last coach? Chip is already an improvement
Chip is like the exact opposite, Tomasula was a bumbling idiot who couldn’t string together a sentence, now they have a fast talking wise ass who used his introductory press Confrence as a platform for his lame stand up routine..
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Tomasula didn’t Know how to talk, now their new coach isnt allowed to talk…I guess we can call that progress…
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Im not saying this because of chip kelly, but the Niners current roster may be more screwed up than the Browns…,,
Still an improvement
I’ll believe Gordon is still an NFL player once I see him in a uniform.
Kelly didn’t speak to media at the 2015 Combine, when he was the Eagles coach.
No talk of anyone putting him in a leash then.
Nine coaches not talking. But don’t let that get in the way of some good gossipin. 😉
Take that up with the reporters and media outlets, I don’t get paid enough to fact check their bullshit, but thanks… Andy ISNT talking because of his knee replacement surgery
Where did you see the (possibly) bad information?
Twitter, but I think a few reporters screwed up the wording, and the real stat is Chip was the first coach in Eagles history to not speak at the combine(at least according to BGN)… Unfortunately in TODAYS “reporting” you have to investigate half of what’s reported
If you tell me who, I don’t mind taking it up with the reporter. That is the only way to fix bad journalism. So far, I can’t find who said that. I see stuff like this…
https://twitter.com/MaioccoCSN/status/701898285296930816
Rueb retweeted the false report from someone else… Saw a few others retweet it, i Gotta check…
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The biggest problem isn’t so much a reporter posting false info, it’s really a problem when other reporters retweet it Quickily without checking the info themselves. They get paid to get it right. It’s a problem when fans start having to check everything our media posts, but I guess that’s were we are headed with “Journalism” lowering its standards more with each year..
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Appreciate the few guys left Like Jay Glazier care about getting it right, more than getting it out there the fastest
I couldn’t find anything in Rueb’s twitter feed back over a week, so I sent him a message asking about it.
What is your twitter handle, by the way? I’d follow you and I can pass it on if Rueb responds to me.
Never mind, I found it.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nine+coaches+not+speaking+at+combine
But that doesn’t lead to the incorrect reporting at all. It just gives me articles about Kelly, and 8 other coaches, not speaking. I was curious where the two commenters with conflicting information were getting it.
I love this site.
Where did you see that nine coaches aren’t speaking?
I found an image of the nine together.
Wow, Reid looks thinner.
Not to mention that Chip often would avoid talking to the media if he could. I’m not a huge fan of Chip, but this particular story is a non story. It’s par for the course with Chip.
Combine drinking game: Every time you read or hear the words freak or freakish. How many people can be freakish before you have to change the definition of the word?
Its more fun when they call people freak athletes for a fast 40, but the rest of the drills are below average
Hopefully this will be the last year of this outdated combine format… Not only are half the drills bullshit, but WTF are you doing with a stopwatch in 2016 when ESPN Sportsciemce lab has the technology to measure the force of these kids farts
I call BS. I have yet to see Fart Force (in PSI, I assume) on a spider chart.
a few years back, i put together a Combine-Buzzword-Bingo game for a few friends. good times.
#stud
How ’bout Mayock saying “Jack” when he’s talking about a participant’s film?
These guys are the athletic equivalent of having about a 160 IQ or more. The ones that stand out among that crowd might have, say 180 IQ or more. People like that often have outstanding and very obvious abilities that are almost inhuman compared to ‘slines (baselines). “Freak”, while an odd term, is appropriate.
If it’s appropriate, you should remain quite sober.
16 days later Sportscenter reports on the shady case. And the report is that there is no report and there won’t to be an arrest today.. If that was me, they would have thrown my ass in jail the next morning… #C.R.E.A.M
I was a big supporter of Chip Kelly, the coach. But it sure is nice to have an adult running the personnel side of things again.
What im most happy about the change is no longer having a coach who can’t run his offense without making life harder on our defense half the time,. But what really annoyed me ismchip Dictating to our DC what type of defense to run..
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Thankful to have a HC who will leave our DC alone to do what he sees fit
(super meanie head egocentric never found a good player in his life money grubbing idiot who has pictures of Lurie because he was kept on and is totally gonna ruin this team) Adult
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Depends on how you define ‘adult’ including how easy it is to work for an individual, how well that individual foster relationships with peers and subordinates, etc.
It is still just odd that Lurie won’t come out to say Roseman is in charge and specify things a bit more instead of the BS ‘decision by committee’ rhetoric.
If Roseman is in charge, fine. Come out, say that, make him publicly available at times to the media, and give him at least 3 years with Pederson to evaluate how he does.
All the Tennessee HC are holding joint press Confrence today to address the title IX lawsuit and the peyton news..
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Wonder if we actually hear a mea culpa, or more likely shoveling BS trying to cover their ass
I really don’t understand how any man can turn a blind eye to woman
being preyed on to protect a sport. How do they sleep at night?
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Women get sexually harassed every day in workplaces all over the United States.
You think men cover it up? Try female HR directors.
They get paid to protect their companies’ reputations.
It’s not like good jobs are falling out of trees.
Not to mention colleges preying on athletes is pretty much par for the course, sad as it is.
ATG:
Admire greatly your efforts to tackle bad journalism.
Well, I had a little time. Thank you.
I figured if we just dismiss untrue reports as the way things are, things will never change.
Corporate ladder climbers gonna climb, no matter what their gender is. But yeah, the worst sexual harassment I’ve ever seen was female on female, and it was flat out ugly. And the “in” group closed ranks big time.
Mathis totally dogged Good Old Chipper. What a piece of garbage Chip Kelly was. Feel bad for all the idiots who fell for his dog and pony show.
Cant fault fans for wanting their team t succeed. Fans didn’t give Chip the keys to the kigndom
yeah there is a difference between wanting their team to succeed and bashing former players cut by an insane coach.
If you don’t realize that cutting players who are good is not good for your team maybe you shouldn’t even be a fan.
If you don’t realize that cutting players who are good is not good for your team maybe you shouldn’t even be a fan
No one is saying that Chip didn’t make mistakes… but people were sour Chip before he even coached his first game. And its not really fair to lump everyone in the same group.
yeah the only person sour on Chip before his first game was me. trust me bro.
There was a lot of groupthink from the fans here, disguised as objective argument/discussion. Usually it ended up shouting down anyone criticizing Chip or his moves. Perhaps this is inevitable on a fansite, but that doesn’t really excuse the behavior. Of course, this has nothing to do with the troll.
Easy to pile on now but I understand why Mathis did it. Frankly he didn’t really say anything that was that inflammatory either. Just a basic rehash of what others including a few other players have said.
Thanks for the replies about any tackles sliding in to guard.
Conversely, could any of the top guard prospects (Whitehair) project out to tackle in the future? Whitehair isnt short, dunno about arm length. Is there something about his skillset that is only guard worthy?
He played left tackle for last 2 seasons, left guard and right tackle before that according to NFL.COM. Size wise you probably want him at guard. I’ve only seen him a little, they compare him to Zach Martin but I don’t know if he’s that good.
Whitehair plays LT at K-State but just doesn’t really have T feet. His incredibly technically gifted. Can he play T for a short period or even a season if it allows you to get your best 5 OL on the field? Sure. But long term he’s a much better G.
The one player in the class who can arguably play all 5 positions is Max Tuerk.
Not sure if this had been noted, but looks like the NFL withheld some money from the players they shouldn’t have — and lost in arbitration. As a result, the salary cap this year goes up by $1.56 million per team — looks like that was what was behind the rise to the reported $155 million for the cap.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25492225/report-nfl-withheld-more-than-120-million-from-players-over-3-years
Howie still killin it. Don’t understand people that don’t like him as our head personnel guy.
How has ‘he been killin it’ so far this offseason? He has resigned a few of his own guys before FA.
I’ll freely admit I’m not a fan but I wait until after the draft to see how this team is shaping up. You really can’t say one way or another right now.
I also won’t bury Roseman either if this team has a 5-11/6-10 season next year either. Think he got a very mediocre roster with a real lack of upper-echelon talent with a lot of holes and misfitting parts from Kelly. Deserves at least a minimum of 2 years and really into that 3rd season to put his mark on this team.
He’s been killin it by prioritizing identifying and locking up the talent we want to keep in town, trying to stitch back together the unraveling mummy that Chip Kelly’s disastrous one year tenure as president of everything created.
Seems to me like he’s locking up a lot of kelly-era guys.
Jenkins, maybe. He wasn’t during Chip’s GM reign, but okay. Who else fits into that category of Kelly-era guys that Howie has locked up?
Technically, everyone but Celek. But despite them being “Kelly Era” guys, I actually agree with the original post. Howie is doing a good job locking down key players, and while other teams are doing similar things, I can’t think of another team doing this many deals right now. Not to mention the fact that the earlier the deals this year, the better cap-wise. He locked them down before the new cap numbers were revealed. I’d be willing to bet that SF will pay more for their TE despite less production than Ertz or KC’s Kelce, for example.
“locking up talent we want to keep” — all GM’s are doing that this time of the year. It’s done every year….
Stitching up something that’s already dead is not really killing it.
Hmm, the mystery continues…
https://twitter.com/ATG_Iggles/status/702164783815127040
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/status/702174638126735360
https://twitter.com/HoffmannTristan/status/702175809293967360
This mystery reminds me of a key point in the movie, Stalag 17 . . .
When Sefton (William Holden’s character) realized that “Security” was in fact a German spy planted in an American POW barracks (played by Peter Graves).
And Sefton says to Cookie — without identifying “Security” by name — that, when the other POWs beat up Sefton because they thought he was trading info with the Germans, it was “Security” who hit him the hardest.
Holden even looks a bit like a young Reuben Franks.
‘specially after the beating
My wife is on notice that I’m forcing her to watch this movie, since she’s never seen it. I really liked this movie.
This is pretty hilarious. I must of missed something in my semi-absentee state.
If this turns out to be true, someone’s game balls are going to be deflated.
https://twitter.com/JasonColeBR/status/702180126461730816
I see you hahaha
…according to many NFL teams
Yep, it is certainly just speculation at this point and all we can do is wait and see.
Still, I rank the “…according to many NFL teams…” speculation a few notches above “…according to some random fan in a blog comment section…” speculation.
there ya go. it’s worthless.
It seems we are agreed on that point.
And what does that make your proclamations then?
worthless if you ignore them. I am assuming you have all of your savings in the stock market still even though I told everyone on this board to sell months ago. I guess if you didn’t listen then my opinion isn’t worthless at all. In fact if someone actually listened it was worth real world money. I am sure you didn’t listen thgouh. Have fun being broke.
you sound like a smart guy. However you sound like a pompous braggadocios type who needs to change people’s minds. Are you a political commentator by any chance? Those guys are completely useless.
well thank you very much. No I am not a political commentator. Have a good day sir.
Oh you watch CNBC? That’s nice.
You cannot honestly think that anyone would take financial advice from a football blog comment section. Anyone who would do so does not have money to invest, or to purchase access to the Internet.
you said my comments were worthless. you are factually incorrect my friend. Have fun being poor.
I said they are conjecture.
You said conjecture is worthless.
Don’t put words in my mouth.
Jason Cole is usually pretty accurate, right?
Roseman: I trust the guy now, and not sure if we have a star GM in the making.
1) He has worked his whole front office career in Philadelphia so he has a pulse on the fanbase and understands this market thoroughly in regards on how to sell players to come here.
2) He has already gone through the GM stint as a 35 year old in 2010
3) He BETTER BE smarter/older/wiser this time around
4) He is young enough to not have blinders on. (I forgot he was 35 when he was named GM after Heckert left for Cleveland).
5) Since 2010 he was under the thumb of Reid/Kelly in regards to final personnel decisions.
6) He has experience working with a long tenured coach (Reid), a hot commodity (CK), building through FA (Dream Team debacle), drafting for need (Watkins, Jarret)….. so in my eyes the man has seen every conceivable way NOT to BUILD a Team and also successful ways also because 2000-2016 has been a roller coaster since he has been here.
7) Pederson is from the Reid/Holmgren coaching tree. Howie saw success with Reid and in my mind will be able to help Pederson create a program like Big Red’s successful tenure.
he’s failed so much he’s gotta get it right this time.
I have a positive view of Howie, but, yeah, the list reads that way.
only way to go is up with him
what does having a pulse on the fan base have to do with anything about HR?
he has been here for 16 years, he knows the Philadelphia market in general in relation to the NFL and customers (fans). He knows he can not let the fan base run the team, because if any new GM came to Phila with no prior exposure to this city/fans, he/she would crumble.
Just a small bit here, but was he immediately given the title of GM or did they hold off on that a couple seasons? We all know he wasn’t actually the GM in 2010 regardless of title.
Please don’t degrade my view of our government…please don’t degrade my view of our government…
https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/status/702189230621995008
new episode of “The People vs. OJ Simpson” on tonight!
……see what i did there.
Despite my best efforts, I actually vocalized a small laugh when I read that in a setting where I should not technically have been reading anything humorous. I got a few looks. Well done.
I am on the younger side, I actually am thoroughly enjoying that series. I was 9 when it was happening so I don’t remember specifics lol.
MattE:
The series will never capture the truly horrendous work of the prosecutors, the great job by defense counsel, and the complete loss of control over the courtroom and counsel by Judge Lance Ito.
In the end, Simpson’s reaction to the verdict was a bitter testament to the great American tenet that money buys justice.
that’s why i am an engineer and not working in soft sciences lol
…i quite literally despise lawyers (primarily defense lawyers like Goldman and Cochran)…. and obviously divorce lawyers because they are the only people benefiting from the break down of the traditional family structure.
….a career is great and all, but you gotta have answers when you meet the man upstairs.
If you’re the only lawyer in town there isn’t a lot of money to be made. Once the second lawyer shows up… the money follows.
Wow, that is way too deep for a conversation built upon drunk testosterone junkies fighting at 3 AM.
don’t divorces need lawyers?
otherwise someone can get taken advantage of.
Engineers, soft sciences, and God. A strange trio.
its a pretty good series to watch, fun stuff
It was a setup dude. Who comes up to someone else’s table and just takes a bottle of $350 champagne. that’s ridiculous. Those cops deserved to have their a$$es kicked simply for stealing.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! you are a PURE maggot tool troll.. vial sob.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Since this is a place for intelligent discussion, would you care to elaborate? Really not selling yourself well.
just some low level pay back for months of annoyance at the hand of your boy, Eballs.
you’re not new.. you know hes a troll
Shit is he? They change their name so much I forget them from time to time…..ugg.
yea hes the one.. now ya know, sorry to break the news.. have a good one man!
They don’t deserve to have their asses kicked, but I don’t really have much sympathy for them either.
if someone stole 350 from me I would kick their ass.
Lol. You can’t just beat the crap out of somebody for stealing your money.
In my world I say that is justified.
in your world you eat poop too
Even if the 350$ was on the table you were sitting at, and you were attempting to stop him?
Stop lying to yourself. Put 350 in your hand in front of me and watch me take it from you while you do nothing but run over to igglesblitz and proclaim how big of a tough guy you are.
Irony.
That is certainly a valid defense to try to mount. Not even being required to defend his actions, though, is a privilege neither you nor I would receive.
If it happened to me, I would most certainly be going to prison and have a felony on my record.
But LeSean being a high profile athlete and being able to afford good lawyers is not good for the DA or the police department.
If this happened to you, you would go to jail…even if it were wrong. Unless of course you had the means to defend yourself.
Both sides were wrong in this case, but if Lesean weren’t rich only his side would be punished.
If his friends beat up the cops after the cops stole $350 champagne from him and Shady only took one swing and missed – what should he be charged with?
Where are you getting this information?
http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/02/19/philly-union-chief-slams-da-for-slow-pace-of-mccoy-probe/
you are an utter moron
it’s against the law to “kick someone’s a$$”
but since you are quick to point out how others don’t even know the facts of the case, why don’t you enlighten everyone with the “facts”
Agreed completely. However, as people mentioned on my post on this yesterday, its not okay to kick a guy continually, who is laying on the ground. That is damn near attempted murder, even if you are too stupid to know that you can kill someone pretty easily that way.
Yesterday my thoughts ended with “Charge em all”. I expand that now to “Charge all or charge none”.
charge nobody. it was a bar fight and the white cops got they a$$ kicked by the black athletes.
What exactly does race have to do with it? Same question I have as why it matters if they are off-duty cops?
It has nothing to do with race. But black dudes beat up white dudes. get over it bro.
You probably know better then most about getting beat up.
I do.
That is easily believable. I don’t even know you but I would you love to punch you in your face.
grow up kid. Ask your son how to act like an Adult you 34 year old sleuth.
lol You telling someone to grow up is beyond comedic and shows you big of a hypocrite you are. I will continue to attack you on this blog for as long as I want because you like to openly disrespect other people on here so you deserve exactly what you dish out. Stop talking like an internet tough guy.
lol, this guy.
if he’s not charged then you know somebody was paid off
you don’t even know the facts. what a sophomoric comment. Tommy please don’t allow idiots to post on here. This is like a witch hunt.
don’t you have to mancrush on Andy Reid in every other post?
To be fair, you can’t expect him to know all the facts, the movie hasn’t even come out yet.
If the case goes to trial, it’s not going to look pretty for the cops involved or the PPD. Honestly, I think everyone is better off if the charges aren’t filed and out of court settlements are made.I really don’t know why McNesby had to open his mouth about this case. I think the DA is looking out for the police, not the other way around.
I don’t think it ever goes to trial. The DA would have a hard time winning this case.
“We’ll look to go to the attorney general,” McNesby said during a radio interview with WIP, if charges are not filed. “We’ll also have our attorneys file a private criminal complaint, and we’ll move in that direction.”
I don’t get why the FOP union president is getting involved since these were off-duty cops or why he’s publicly pressuring the DA to file charges.
LeSean won’t get convicted or serve any prison time. That video McNesby points to doesn’t show anything definitive.
It’s just going to make those cops and the entire police department look worse.
unions are scum
That’s the kind of comment that undermines anything intelligent you may have said in the past.
But let’s run with it for a moment.
You’re right. All unions are bad.
As are limits on working hours.
As are minimum/overtime wage requirements.
As are child labor laws.
Much better to let the free market forces inexorably concentrate land, labor, and capital in the hands of few . . . ’cause only good things happen when we do that.
While they are certainly founded on great ideas, in some cases they are debilitating to entire industries. They are certainly a welcome entity, but there are so many glaring issues in this country with unions, it would be just as narrow-minded of a statement to proclaim “all unions are good”.
They are good for the worker..that much is true. Considering I am a worker and union member, I guess you could call me 50-50 on them.
we wouldn’t have them if there wasn’t a need for them.
Indeed. I think the country is a better place with them now, than it was before without them.
“They are good for the worker..that much is true.”
For what other reason do they exist?
That is the reason they were brought into existence. They just do much more now, and go too far in some instances.
Unions are scum. Ask Wisconsin.
there isn’t a complete thought in that head is there
ask Wisconsin? brilliant. unions in some sectors are necessary for safety at work, among other things ask the workers. then read A Peoples History of America.
not public worker’s uninon. they are scum. adn the rest of them are too.
EGB:
What’s ironic about this comment regarding Wisconsin is the following.
This line of discussion started because of how the Police Union in Philadelphia has responded to the McCoy incident.
In Wisconsin, all the anti-union legislation has gutted the rights of organized labor with TWO EXCEPTIONS:
Police Unions. Firemen Unions.
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As for Wisconsin’s right-to-work legislation, let’s see how the people of Wisconsin like their new status quo in the next election.
I saw a movie that said unions are good.
Known troll, slimiest kind, why would you think he ever said anything ‘intelligent’? Just look at any of his posts.
S-1961:
I was careful how I crafted my opening sentence — using
the past conditional tense “may have.”
That way I wasn’t opining one way or the other on the intelligence of his comments.
who will protect the workers rights then?
who speaks for them?
Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan.
Oh . . . and the Koch Brothers.
your work itself.
in a factory?
as a child?
working conditions?
yeah stupid unions getting us a minimum wage and health care and five days work weeks. it’s probably just a coincidence that median income is shrinking and the middle class is disappearing as unions become less powerful
yeah and they murder people like Hoffa. Get real bro. Unions are scum.
i can prove that unions got us the minimum wage and the five day work week. can you prove that unions killed hoffa? no? huh . . . doesn’t really seem like we’re on the same level here. maybe you don’t know as much as you’re convinced that you know?
I don’t think FDR and Henry Ford were members of unions 🙂
well he saw a movie this one time
yeah I can prove it. watch the movie Hoffa you dumba$$
oh my god i was joking that you got your info from a movie but you really are this insane. please tell me more
Watch the movie. Or is it too “historical” for you
your complete lack of mental and emotional balance is probably the internet’s best source of content.
in that case I can prove superman exists then can’t I?
Brilliant how Eagles fans proved Santa exists !!
The fact that Abraham Lincoln was a vampire hunter really doesn’t get talked about enough…
haha now you’ve lost all possible cred, and no reason to discuss anything any further
Yep, it’s truly amazing how the corporate overlords have won the union PR battle. http://la.aflcio.org/gnoaflcio/index.cfm?action=article&articleID=257e8c90-0ac8-43f7-b0c6-dce69756e21c
This viewpoint does not mesh with your last. Unless you are saying the DA can’t win the case because people were bribed?
I don’t believe he will be charged. I think McCoy has paid off people to make it go away.
That being said, this is not a case the DA can win because it depends on the testimony of people who were drinking in the club that night. McCoy and pals can just all point the finger at each other. How do you prove who threw what punch?
“I think McCoy has paid off people to make it go away.” – he’s likely paying his lawyer.
Prosecutor is unlikely to bring a change in such a high profile case unless it’s a winner.
He’ll end up broke and too cool for tv .. too bad watching it happen. Really hope not
Meeting cancelled. Apparently Shady’s people didn’t like the fact that word of the meeting leaked.
Sigh.
Even in his interactions with the criminal justice system, Shady is juking those trying to cover him and making them look silly.
I may be in the minority here and I didn’t believe a couple of months ago that I would say this, but after reading so much after and about Chip Kelly I’m kinda glad that Howie has stayed with the Eagles rather than the former.
A few months ago you would have been, but I would say that I am not sure you are in the minority now.
I’d like to see a more official minority report.
See? Another improvement. Chip never allowed a minority report.
I have consulted the psychics…………………………………………… They told me the Eagles will disappoint us this year.
I think we would all agree that Howie is great at extending players, working the cap, and seeing trade value. Where we all worry is his talent evaluation and his inability to be accountable for anything. Unfortunately, I don’t think we will be successful as we would like until we get a GM that can evaluate and also be a “cap genius.”
Also, I am just speculating: but what is with one of our front office guys leaving two weeks ago? Could he not work with Howie? Howie has had a reputation of being difficult to work with. Again this is more conjecture because we do not have anything to talk about, but it is interesting nonetheless.
Who, the scouting guy? Why should we be concerned if a 23 year old glorified intern leaves (after his replacement is already hired)?
Teams, in general, do not relieve anyone until after the draft. I clearly said I was speculating. I too hope that Howie has learned from some of his mistakes, and does better this time around. His moves are headed in the correct direction. But they also have all been pretty obvious. I am all for giving him an offseason to prove it. I am not saying Fire Howie. I’m just seeing lets wait and see how he does with the talent evaluation side before we crown the guy.
You need to do some more research into the guy who was let go. You’re doing exactly what all the beat writers were doing: assuming this was some big problem. A number of people completely debunked this idea.
In other words, please disperse, there is nothing to see here. At least with regards to the guy who they mutually parted ways with.
It was just strange timing to get rid of a scouting director. I heard that it was mutual as well. But seriously, how often is a relationship ever mutually terminated? You can read the reports, do all the research you want; but the fact is that none of us were in the room. Yes, I am being “no better” than a beat writer right now… But what else is there to talk about? We all gave our thoughts on the Jenkins extension yesterday. I guess we could talk about the report that Sam is “expected” to re-sign. But that will probably just bring up too many debates for you and other people may not care for you talking down to them because they have a different opinion.
Let me save you some research. They parted ways with a 23 year old guy who fetched coffee and managed a database. Something you’d pay a temp $15/hour to handle. His title sounded far more impressive than his position.
If you want to get upset about that, or think it raises deeper questions, then by all means, feel free to do so.
The entire point I was trying to make is that Howie is considered difficult to work with BY SOME. I already said I was not in the room and I was just SPECULATING for the sheer fact that there is nothing going on right now. Does the intern or “coffee guy” have much to do with my argument? No, it was an example. I could have named Tom Gamble, who he ousted on a power play or other executives.
Bottom line: My entire point was that I would like to see Howie capable in the areas that have previously been challenging for him and you are debating whether the sky is blue.
“Also, I am just speculating: but what is with one of our front office guys leaving two weeks ago?”
Your quote.
The intern guy has zero to do with any argument about Howie being difficult to work with. Zero. He was a nobody. You, and others, are trying to add him to the list of examples of Howie’s dissension with others. That is not the case here, or if it is, it’s entirely irrelevant. You saw his title and thought, “hey, why is a scouting director being let go?” That didn’t happen. A glorified intern was let go.
Howie may in fact be difficult, and probably is. You’re trying to raise the question in light of something that happened that is not at all tied to how difficult he is to work with. You’re making an absolutely false correlation. There are plenty of examples of Howie’s personal issues to be reviewed without throwing this log onto the fire. And your point about his difficulty is entirely tied to you bringing up this “scouting director”, so this is not a case of my debating whether the sky was blue.
Your point about this guy being an issue was proven wrong. Accept it and move on.
I’m one of the top Howie people…….so I agree.
So I realize that Jason Cole is the ESP or Rappoport of Bleacher Report, but it is interesting that he tweeted Bradford was unlikely to test FA, and more recently he is tweeting that Bradford is expected to re-sign but could test free agency. So basically he is reporting that anything is possible. Great reporting, dude.
It definitely might happen unless it doesn’t.
Off season is the in-season for misinformation.
At the end of the day, for the right price, a deal before FA could be best for both sides. Sammy boy hits FA and doesn’t sign quickly, the price starts dropping. If he hits the market and interest is high his price sky rockets.
If you get him signed before FA, the agent could privately sell that it was the top of the market. The Eagles are happy that they don’t have to big against anyone and can privately sell that it was a steal.
The way the market is shaping up, I sort of doubt there will be any real bidding wars for the guy. Might really be best to just get the contract done.
ESP has talked shit about Bradford for like 6 months hahaha…This doesn’t seem like he’s trolling either. Sorry if this was posted I didn’t see it.
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/02/there_isnt_much_doubt_that_sam_bradford_has_won_ov.html#incart_river_index
I didn’t get a QB and only got one O-lineman, but this one is killer on BPA.
Your score is: 9085 (GRADE: A+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Sebastian Tretola, OG, Arkansas (A)
Round 3 Pick 16: Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15: Karl Joseph, SS, West Virginia (A-)
Round 5 Pick 14: Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois (A+)
Round 5 Pick 23: Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina (A-)
Round 6 Pick 13: Deiondre’ Hall, CB, Northern Iowa (A+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Aaron Green, RB, TCU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Kolby Listenbee, WR, TCU (A+)
You got two O-lineman.
Um, yeah. I did.
I was so wrapped up in down-draft stuff that I forgot I picked Stanley at 13 because he’s not really going to be there in the draft.
*fixed
Ah . . . order restored.
Where’s your young QB project? How ’bout that . . .
– Connor Cook, with the quick release — but doesn’t always seem to know where the ball’s headed?
– Jacoby Brissett, who has some escapability — to go with his Randall-like windup (run to the fridge) and delivery?
None of the QBs were valuated highly enough when I was picking.
SEE, CLEVELAND BROWNS? it’s not that hard!
Not a huge Tretola guy and I just don’t know what you do with Jihad in this defense. He’s a 5 tech he’s too tall and can’t really hold up in the run game right now so I think being a DT would be tough for him.
I can’t line Ward up as a plus size DE Reggie White style?
He can’t take the edge from NFL T’s in his pass rush.
Noted. I’ll avoid.
So here’s a twist from the usual athlete-beats-up-on-his-baby-momma. Let the baby-momma & your girlfriend beat on each other instead:
“The NFL is “looking into” a video that shows two female acquaintances of Jaguars DE Dante Fowler fighting.
The video depicts a brawl between Fowler’s girlfriend and ‘the mother of his child.’ In the video, Fowler stands idly by. As disquieting as the scene is, it’s hard to see how it results in punishment for the 2015 first-rounder.”
If two people have an issue, let them hash it out in a fair way. Unfortunately, there were cameras around.
Nothing wrong with an informal trial of grievance. Though if that is the case, Fowler shouldn’t have been idle, he should have drawn out the circle of equals and laid some basic ground rules.
Unlikely to be that formal where a freebirth is concerned, though.
Good to know there’s another trueborn on this forum. o7
At the end of the day I happen to think that the Eagles will re-sign Bradford for 2-3 years, with some gtd money around $20-30m, giving the Eagles the option to get out of the contract in the last year.
They can then see if Bradford proves to be their franchise QB, while a highly drafted rookie can sit and learn on the bench.
The salary cap hit will be lower the next season than the franchise tag for QBs would be.
Win-win, if you ask me….
I will .. a bud moved into Ditmars .. time to meet up soon
At the end of the day!? I figured it would be a couple weeks yet.
But yeah, that sounds most likely at this point.
Uh no. That proves to be their franchise QB shit is over for Bradford. He’s a stopgap regardless of his price and we already have a stopgap QB in Sanchez. You don’t like to lose? Well tough shit for you because we’re not going to win much with Bradford.
If you say so, Jimmy.
How bout some insight as to all these new Free agents as possible players of interest.
Laurenitis ? Cromartie? Weddle?, or how bout some O line help? Cordy Glenn? Mitchell Scwartz? Any thoughts Tommy?
Schwartz please.
So does the possible news about Bradford resigning mean my friend can get another year or two out of his make shift Bradford jersey (an old Hoying jersey from college he had blacked out the letters and added Bradford in duct tape letters instead)?
It was a big hit last at 2 home games we went too.
Can’t remember for sure if there is Jayron Kearse love on this board but I thought I would give him a look and write some thoughts: Huge player at 6’4″ and around 210-220. Problem is he doesn’t play with great physicality, especially close to the line. You often will see him rush toward the LOS then proceed to slow down and kind of wait for the runner to get slowed by his fellow teammates. The above scenario will happen or he will simply crash into someone with a shoulder taking himself out of the play, similar to a kamikaze. I often saw him over shoot running plays and when he did read the plays correctly, his tackling was lackluster. Then the question becomes, “ok, so maybe he is more of a single high type.” Well, not so much in my opinion. On several plays he was slow to react to the qb, often getting stuck looking for the ball in the backfield and getting frozen by play action. It’s hard to judge “range” on the draftbreakdown film but in the few clips I was able to see, Kearse seemed average at best, partially due to lackluster foot speed and partially due to poor instincts. One play particular against ND was troubling, where Kearse had a chance to tackle the WR before reaching the endzone and simply seemed to let up. I don’t really want that in a safety. He covered pretty well in man, unfortunately his style of coverage is going to get a quite a few flags thrown in the NFL because of his constant contact beyond 5 yards. On the occasion Kearse read the play well, he was able to close on pass catchers quickly and lay some big hits. Overall I saw a huge player for the safety position with below average play around the LOS and questionable instincts and range. While he can make some plays because of his size it doesn’t make up for the fact that he is timid and often looks like he is standing straight up, not sure where to go. I think this player may get overdrafted because of the defense he played in at Clemson and his physical attributes. I would rate Kearse in 6th-7th round simply due to size and give him a “chubbymeter” rating of 3/10.
I’ve been taking him in mocks in the 4th or 5th is he’s still around. I figure his size is worth a chance for us to see if he can play against taller TEs and help with taller WRs.