DeMarco Drama

Posted: February 27th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 318 Comments »

Just what you wanted to hear. DeMarco Murray isn’t happy. Still. At least this time it isn’t Chip Kelly. Now he’s unhappy with…ah, who really cares. Murray basically wants to go back to Dallas and he’s not going to be happy until that happens.

At this point, the Eagles would love to get rid of Murray. He’s an expensive headache. The situation is tricky because of his contract.

The Eagles have to figure out some resolution to this situation. It doesn’t sound like keeping Murray around for 2016 is something you want to do.

So now we have to start looking at RBs. Thanks, DeMarco.


I was very impressed by the OL group at the Combine on Friday. I don’t have time to fully write on them right now, but I will tonight or in the next few days. The Eagles are going to have some good options in the first 4 or 5 rounds.

OL coach Jeff Stoutland ran one of the drills. He was active and up close in watching the prospects. You know he’s got to be excited to finally get his hands on some good young players.


The OLB position is a bit of a mystery since we don’t know where Mychal Kendricks or Kiko Alonso will line up. One will be the SAM and one the WIL. You can make a case for each guy at each spot. Beyond that, we also don’t know which Kendricks and which Alonso will show up.

There is no question that both Kendricks and Alonso were disappointing in 2015. Alonso was coming back from a significant injury and then got hurt during the year. He is completely healthy now and I think he’ll be a much better player this time around. He was a star in 2013. That wasn’t some fluke season. You need him to get healthy and regain his confidence. I think playing for Jim Schwartz and not having to deal with Chip Kelly’s up-tempo style will help him to bounce back.

That said, there are no guarantees. Alonso wouldn’t be the first player to get hurt and never bounce back. I think the coaches will keep a close eye on him this spring. Alonso needs to show them that the guy from 2013 is still around.

Kendricks struggles are more of a mystery. It seemed like maybe having to compete with Jordan Hicks, DeMeco Ryans and Alonso got to him. Kendricks has never been the smartest LB or even overly instinctive, but he took a step back in 2015. He could also have a bounce back season in 2016. The 3-4 is more complex and more demanding that Schwartz’s attacking 4-3. Kendricks should be able to think less and just play. That should help to bring out the best in him.

I do think the Eagles need to bring in a veteran OLB to provide depth and some competition. Najee Goode is back, but he’s more of a STer and role player.

Some people want the Eagles to get rid of either Alonso or Kendricks because of the 2015 struggles. I think you have to be careful about overreacting to a bad year. Players are human. They can have down seasons. If they are young and healthy, you want to take a chance on them getting back to their good form.


One player I’m excited to see today is QB Paxton Lynch. He seems to be 3rd for most people and could be on the board at 13.  Jimmy Bama wrote about Lynch and the fact he may need to sit for year and develop.

Re-signing Bradford and drafting Lynch at 13 might be an ideal way to improve the QB situation for the Eagles, for now and the future.


318 Comments on “DeMarco Drama”

  1. 1 DeMarco Drama - said at 11:12 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor Just what you wanted to hear. DeMarco Murray isn’t happy. Still. At least this time it […]

  2. 2 Greg Richards said at 11:32 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    Interesting that Rapaport has been the only one that has originally reported the DeMarco doesn’t want to play in Philly narrative. Typically if that is agent-driven, the agent leaks that to multiple media members. Seems like Rapaport’s source is different. Maybe someone with the Eagles trying to entice offers from other teams. Maybe Murray directly or more likely one of Murray’s friends/relatives/significant others that wants him back in Dallas.

  3. 3 Fufina said at 11:35 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    Think it is a bit of a non story unless he is willing to take a pay cut. Eagles will trade his ass for a 7th or maybe even less (some practice squad undrafted Y2 guy). Problem is no one is paying him his $$ in 2016 or 2017, and the Eagles will not cut him since he is good enough short yardage back to be worth keeping about rather than cutting and eating his entire guaranteed salary.

  4. 4 Greg Richards said at 11:40 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    Normally, I’d agree with you, but a team like Oakland is so far under the cap and have to spend to reach the cap floor. If say Doug Martin re-signs with TB, I could see them taking a 1-year flyer on DeMarco. There are ways to make a trade more palatable for another team besides a pay cut. DeMarco has a fully guaranteed 2016 salary. The Eagles and Murray could convert part of that to a roster/signing bonus that the Eagles pay and leave the rest in salary that would be traded to another team.

  5. 5 Fufina said at 11:53 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    Hmm maybe i had not considered those teams who will pretty much struggle to spend their $$ and attract the best free agents to get the the salary floor.

  6. 6 Nick C said at 12:01 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    This is my line of thinking as well. Some of those less desirable FA locations may entice a team to take a chance on a talent like Murray. Not saying it’s a sure thing, but it may not be a long shot like we all think. To the people in Dallas and such that are waiting for him to be released: I have a very had time thinking Howie would pay him 13M to play for another team next year. Chip may have… But I cannot see that from Howie.

    On a side note: I saw a legitimate amount of people on BGN getting excited about the thought of DM and our #13 for DAL #4. How stupid are you? Do any of them know the value to get from #13 to #4?

  7. 7 Buge Halls said at 1:21 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Jacksonville also has a boatload of cap space

  8. 8 Ryan Stocker said at 12:04 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I just don’t see Oakland giving up assets and paying Demarco his league leading salary at RB when Latavius Murray has proven to be a solid every down back. They could spend big bucks on a different position of need to meet the salary floor

  9. 9 D3FB said at 1:28 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    It’s not super untradeable. The acquiring team would be on the hook for 7 mil this year and 2 mil next year. That’s it.

    If you’ve got the cap space and an unsettled RB situation (Jax or Oak) I think it makes some sense.

  10. 10 ACViking said at 1:34 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Coach . . .

    How’d you rate the Eagles’ draft if they came away with Braxton Miller, Jason Spriggs, and Connor McGovern . . .

    along with [pick a QB in Rd 3]?

  11. 11 D3FB said at 1:44 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Ehhhh. Like Spriggs and McGovern. I’m not as worried about WR. For me it’s find a guy who can fill a role on day 3.

    Out on mid round QBs.

  12. 12 Ryan Stocker said at 12:06 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    They won’t unless they make some trades. Spriggs and Miller are both rounds 1-2. Considering we only have a 1st and not a 2nd, we would have to either trade back and pick up a 2nd, or trade into the 2nd. And that’s if either is there in the 2nd. I really liked McGovern before the combine and he was ranked a 5-7th rounder. His performance may have pushed him to late day 2 or early day 3.

  13. 13 Insomniac said at 11:44 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    He’s probably just tired of the media.

  14. 14 Fufina said at 11:51 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    I wish that some of the local media owners held their beat reporters and columnists as ‘accountable’ as they feel Howie should be. So much drivel filling column inches and so consistently wrong.

  15. 15 Insomniac said at 11:59 AM on February 27th, 2016:

    BS generates clicks.

  16. 16 Mark Sitko said at 12:52 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If we can trade Murray, even to the Cowboys, it would be the greatest possible off-season move we can make – very hard to do, but I really hate that guy – helped in getting Chip fired and now wants out – total BS…oh, and he is also old and slow – RB quickly on decline

  17. 17 Ryan Stocker said at 12:07 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I’m not willing to trade him to the Cowboys. Last thing I wanna see is him come off a relatively low workload from last year looking like he did in 2014.

  18. 18 P_P_K said at 1:15 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Valid points.

  19. 19 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 12:15 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    So now we have to start looking at RBs. Thanks, DeMarco.

    I would think this need was pre-existing, no? don’t see how his affectations change the RB situation

  20. 20 Buge Halls said at 1:23 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    With the stable of three good RBs under contract why would they look for another? Especially with all of the other holes in the roster

  21. 21 Media Mike said at 2:00 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Sproles is older.
    Murray might not be long for the team.
    Mathews is a gutless puke who spends too much time injured.

  22. 22 Ryan Stocker said at 12:08 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Murray’s play and contract dictate that he may be gone next year. Sproles is not an every down back and is in his last year. Mathews is talented but hasn’t proven that he can stay healthy. Barner is a fringe player. RB is a very sneaky need as we could go into next year with the unhealthy Mathews and a fringe player in Barner as our only RBs.

  23. 23 Stephen E. said at 11:51 AM on February 29th, 2016:

    Yeah… so we use a 3-5 round pick on one and he gains 700-1000 yards… just like everyone else in the league does with commodity RBs.

  24. 24 D3FB said at 1:35 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Previously I think it fell into the category of if there was a late day 3 guy that could fit a role (returner, scat back etc) and he had some upside to grow into a bigger role in the future sure why not. Otherwise just make a nice offer to a couple of UDFAs. You were just looking more for something so that you wouldn’t have to swap out the whole RB room next year.

    If Murray’s gone you’re going to be looking more for a guy who can take 100 or more carries this year.

  25. 25 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 7:37 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Agree with your plans for drafting, depending on whether or not Murray stays in 2016.
    These are the RBs I starred on my big board, and Rd Value where I’d consider taking them:
    Henry – don’t think he makes it, but I’d take him in the 3rd, especially after his combine
    Dixon – I’d take in the 3rd
    A. Green – late 3rd/4th
    Perkins – 5th
    Prosise – 5th
    Ervin – late 5th/6th
    Lasco – 6th
    D. Washington – 6th
    K. Reynolds – 7th/UDFA

  26. 26 D3FB said at 6:18 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I think you’re a touch high on Green and a tad low on Perkins and Dixon. Haven’t done more than a casual watch though. I do really like Green, but no combine, small guy coming out of a major spread I think alot of teams are seeing some Lache Seastrunk.

  27. 27 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 8:10 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    we’re close, that’s getting into more of the subjectivity. For me it was more a matter of narrowing my list down. Also since we don’t have a 2nd, hard for me to list Dixon in the 2nd (where I think he’ll go) if I’m praying he falls to us.

    I’m actually pretty high on Green, he’s on my top3 of that particular list (by that, the 3 RBs I’m most happy drafting if we get them at the spot I marked). He has much better vision than Seastrunk IMO, and he has some of the cut-on-dime ability we’ve seen with Dion Lewis and Shady that will translate well and give us that scatback/young Sproles talent you mentioned originally. I think he’d be a nice complementary piece to the RB position in 2017 and beyond if we got a bruiser to match with him.

    Nice Senior Bowl TD run, if you had yet to see it:

  28. 28 eagleyankfan said at 1:37 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    ???? Already two very good starters and throw in an extremely good player in Sproles? Where again is the pre-existing need?

  29. 29 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 2:07 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Because Murray is NOT very good. And Mathews is often not healthy.
    As much as I love Sproles, (1) small chance he could be gone before this season (2) higher chance that, if he stays, this is his last year

  30. 30 Ryan Stocker said at 12:10 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Kelce’s Beard is right. Even if Murray does bounce back a bit, I’m thinking the team will still look to trade him to free up cap space. Sproles is likely to be gone after this season. Mathews has proven he can’t be a lead back as he is only good for 8-10 games a season. So our RB situation at the end of 2016 could be an oft injured back and Barner on our roster

  31. 31 Insomniac said at 12:20 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Braxton Miller pulling that De’Anthony Thomas at the combine.

  32. 32 ACViking said at 12:37 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Re: Murray and Bradford . . . Follow the Leader?

    About a year ago, the Cowboys chose not to tag RB DeMarco Murray.

    And 10 days later, the Eagles traded for Murray’s college roommate — and very close friend — QB Sam Bradford.

    Let Murray explain what happened next:

    He [Bradford] immediately texted me and said, ‘Hey, jump on board. Let’s go win it.’ I’m excited to get back with him. He’s a close friend of mine and I’m excited to play with him again. . . . He’s like a brother to me as well.

    Two days after acquiring Bradford, the Eagles signed Murray.

    So one year later, stories have emerged that Murray wants out of Philadelphia — even with a new staff in place.

    If true, what does Murray’s desire to leave Philadelphia suggest about Bradford’s interest in staying?

    Seemed like a big deal 1 year ago. How ’bout now?

  33. 33 Dave said at 1:38 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Murray signed here because Chip offered him more money than any team with the exception of the Jags. I think Sam made it more palatable, but in the end, Murray followed the money.

  34. 34 ACViking said at 1:43 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    In the end, I agree the money brought Murray here.

    But what if Bradford — as rumored — does not want to be in Philadelphia? (Tag aside)

    I’m just kicking around whether Murray’s rumored desire to get out is connected.

    Yes . . . this is inference heaped on inference built on rumors.

    Just seemed like something worth raising on a Combine day.

  35. 35 Dave said at 1:52 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I personally don’t think Bradford wants to be here. He seemed genuinely excited to be here in his initial press conference. Since then, not at all. I still stand by my assessment that the negative media fueling the fans ire turned him off to the team and the city.

    I know others will chime in that these are millionaire professionals who tune out the media, but his friends and family back in Oklahoma, which he calls home, have to let him know that the media constantly skewers him.

  36. 36 GermanEagle said at 12:40 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    First Miles Austin, now Murray. Lesson learned: do never sign an ex Cowboy again. Ever!

  37. 37 ACViking said at 12:52 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Lesson learned . . . again.

    In the 1968 draft, the Cowboys used a late 2nd Rd pick on a huge, record-setting WR from Miss Valley State named Dave McDaniels.

    The guy was 6’4″ 200 lbs and clocked a 4.4 40 before the draft.

    But in training camp, McDaniels couldn’t break 4.65.

    So Dallas’s super-scout Gil Brandt went back to MVSU’s football field with a yard-stick. And he measured the area of the field where McDaniels had run the prior spring.

    Turned out, the part of field — despite its markings — was actually 39 yards long.

    Dallas said nothing. Kept McDaniels on the roster for all of 1968.

    Then, before the 1969 draft, Dallas traded McDaniels to the Eagles . . . for HOF TE Mike Ditka.

    What happened to McDaniels?

    The Eagles cut him before the end of training camp.

  38. 38 GermanEagle said at 1:02 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If we just didn’t get rid of Cris Carter either…

  39. 39 P_P_K said at 1:58 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Bad mojo.

  40. 40 Mark Sitko said at 12:50 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I like the idea of signing Bradford and drafting Lynch – I am no expert but from what I have seen in my amateur scotuing I actually like Paxton Lynch the best – Goff’s baby hands and 215 frame scare me, he does not have amazing skills to make up for those tiny attributes…and Wentz just doesn’t look the part to me – floats the ball, never played top competition, and did not look strong in Senior Bowl (even if his week of practice was amazing and he outperformed the other bad QBs there that week that no one is even considering anymore) – I am surprised Lynch is not the top choice…all projects, but Lynch is the only one that might become something special as far as I can tell

  41. 41 Insomniac said at 1:06 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    He also has the biggest chance of being a bust along with Wentz.

  42. 42 ACViking said at 1:13 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Gets right to the “absolute value” vs. “relative value” question surrounding these guys.

  43. 43 Insomniac said at 1:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    The sole decision that might get you fired. I kind of feel bad for Howie.

  44. 44 Dave said at 1:36 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I strongly believe that’s why Pederson brought Reich and DeFilippo on board. I would imagine Howie will go along with their recommendation on taking a QB. I would hope that the three would them have more knowledge than the scouts or Howie on the requirements to be a successful QB in this league.

  45. 45 Insomniac said at 1:42 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    It’s still mostly Howie’s decision to pull the trigger after hearing their opinions though.

  46. 46 Dave said at 1:46 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Ultimately, I would agree with you on that. I just can’t imagine a scenario where Pederson and his staff tell Howie who they want and Howie overrules them.

  47. 47 Insomniac said at 1:53 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Well that’s sort of true. Howie has been a guy that has taken his chances with trying to get the guys that his coach wants.

  48. 48 Dave said at 2:03 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If we had a defensive head coach, I could see Howie exerting his influence on picking a QB. I would imagine that Jeff Lurie would be heavily involved in this process of picking a future QB to be the face of the franchise. If he demoted Howie for Chip, I can’t imagine a scenario where he would back Howie if Pederson and Reich wanted someone else.

    With the strong possibility of Sam leaving, having Pederson and Reich picking our future QB in the draft actaully has me at ease.

  49. 49 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:59 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    QB evaluations should 100% come down to Pederson and his coaches, that’s the one position your GM should have no say in… Pederson needs to choose who he wants to bet his career on, who he wants to work with and build his offense around… And Rosemans job is to deliver the QB our Coach wants..
    Outside of the QB position. Rosemans evaluations matter, but he Should have no say in QB evaluations, and I think Roseman is smart enough to understand this
    The owner Picks the GM
    The GM picks his Coach
    And the Coach picks his QB…
    When it comes to QB, GMs only job is to deliver the QB the HC wants if possible
    Anyone actually think Roseman drafted Barkley? Of course not, Roseman drafted a QB Chip wanted… Anyone actually think Roseman targeted Sanchez? Of Course not, Chip wanted Sanchez..
    Heck Roseman doesn’t even pretend to try and take credit for FOLES, Andy, and Pederson wanted FOLES when they missed out of Wilson
    HOWIE may be power hungry, but even he understands that he has to honor his coaches QB evaluations

  50. 50 ACViking said at 1:11 PM on February 27th, 2016:


    All 3 have their warts, for sure. And their pluses.

    But if this draft had Luck and Griffin III, or even Winston and Mariota, I’m not sure any of this year’s top-3 would be discussed as 1st-Rd picks. Certainly, not early 1st Rd picks.

    I like all three of them.

    Wentz’s big arm, athleticism, physicality, leadership.
    Goff’s quick release, pocket presence.
    Lynch’s arm, quickness, growth as a QB.

    But I’ll be the first to admit I’m not qualified to judge.

    And — as I’ve said since 12/31/15 — I’m glad I’m not Howie Roseman with the responsibility to decide what to do about the Eagles QB situation.

  51. 51 Tumtum said at 1:09 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If Marco wants to pull a TO, handle it the same way. He won’t be able to destroy the team the same way. Don’t cut him imo.

  52. 52 ACViking said at 1:14 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If Murray’s serious about wanting out, I think there’s a good chance Bradford does, too.

  53. 53 Insomniac said at 1:21 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    What if Bradford is trying to take Murray with him?

  54. 54 ACViking said at 1:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Great question.

    The whole Bradford-Murray thing this off-season has been crazy.

  55. 55 Dave said at 1:33 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Murray is not going anywhere. He’s not giving up money and we wouldn’t trade him to Dallas without being compensated nicely. Even if he had a bad season, you don’t trade a former rushing champ to a division opponent without at least a 3rd.

    Sam is another story.

    One thing they have in common is that they didn’t seem to develop any real connection with teammates outside of the locker room.

  56. 56 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:44 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Having a team trade for Murray IS THE COMPENSATION!!! Doubt the Eagles would care about what we are getting in return.. If we can get a team to take him off our hands, you aren’t getting any value worth a damn, did you see what he put on film last year?
    Do you really think the Eagles would turn down an offer like a 6th round pick to the Eagles, for Murray and our 7th rounder? Id be SHOCKED if we got more value than that…. The compensation for the Eagles is someone getting us out of this Chip mistake.. If we could cut Murray, it would be done already.. Our Compensation is getting rid of Murray while only taking a 4mil cap hit in the trade, instead of the 13mil it costs to cut him,or the 6mil it costs to keep him…. I don’t think the Eagles even care what they would be getting in return..
    We are getting more than enough Compensation from what trading him means for our cap situation.. Not To mention we get rid of a disgruntled veteran, and it would allow Sproles and Ryan Mathews to be happy splitting carries between the two,
    What more compensation can you ask for than getting rid of a guy that would cost us 13mil to waive?

  57. 57 ACViking said at 1:24 PM on February 27th, 2016:


    How can Bradford get Murray to come along?

    Not just cutting ties w/ the Eagles. But landing with the same team Bradford does?

  58. 58 Insomniac said at 1:28 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Tag Bradford and trade him + Murray to the Browns for a 2nd round pick.

  59. 59 ACViking said at 1:31 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If Hue Jax liked Bradford enough to make that deal, I’d take a 3rd.

  60. 60 Insomniac said at 1:34 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Anything in return for (expensive) guys that most likely won’t be here in 2017 sounds good right now.

  61. 61 P_P_K said at 1:34 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Good idea and I’d take it in a second (get it?). However, if Bradford plays great and Murray runs for 1000yds, we’ll have to erase these posts before they come for us with the torches and pitchforks.

  62. 62 ACViking said at 1:36 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    “torches and pitchforks” . . .

    a fantastic, and fading, choice of imagery.

    well done!!!

    PPK . . . .

    What was your son’s reaction to the Kelly firing, Pederson hiring, Bradford saga?

  63. 63 P_P_K said at 1:57 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    You’re a good man to ask about my son. It means so much to him.
    Since you ask, he said firing Kelly was a great thing and Chip’s on his way to screwing up in SF. He is optimistic about Pederson, who he believes has a lot of potential for success. About Bradford, I quote him, “Geez, I don’t know, I really don’t know.”

  64. 64 ACViking said at 2:10 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Your son’s pretty sharp.

    Agree on his Kelly-to-SF take.

    And share his agnosticism on Bradford.

  65. 65 P_P_K said at 2:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    The young man’s lack of absolute surety is evidence he is not yet prepared to post on an Eagles forum.

  66. 66 ACViking said at 2:37 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    PPK . . .

    Let us know when when you throw open the barn door.

    Language is still a bit too rough here sometimes.
    Lazy use of curse words to sound smart.

    But he’ll sure be welcomed here.

  67. 67 P_P_K said at 7:11 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Thanks, again, for your thoughtfulness.
    We might see the young man posting this season. He’s told me he will have a Dawkins avatar. Gotta’ love that.

  68. 68 P_P_K said at 2:00 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Re: torches and pitchforks
    I married an English major so I have to stay on top of my game.

  69. 69 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 1:21 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Bradford is already out

  70. 70 eagleyankfan said at 1:34 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    based on what?

    Murray wants out because he’s not the lead dog. You can almost see a reason for him — but what about Bradford – why would he want out that you’re saying ‘good chance’?

  71. 71 ACViking said at 1:37 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    They sort of came as a pair last year:

    Re: Murray and Bradford . . . Follow the Leader?

    About a year ago, the Cowboys chose not to tag RB DeMarco Murray.

    And 10 days later, the Eagles traded for Murray’s college roommate — and very close friend — QB Sam Bradford.

    Let Murray explain what happened next:

    He [Bradford] immediately texted me and said, ‘Hey, jump on board. Let’s go win it.’ I’m excited to get back with him. He’s a close friend of mine and I’m excited to play with him again. . . . He’s like a brother to me as well.

    Two days after acquiring Bradford, the Eagles signed Murray.

    So one year later, stories have emerged that Murray wants out of Philadelphia — even with a new staff in place.

    If true, what does Murray’s desire to leave Philadelphia suggest about Bradford’s interest in staying?

    Seemed like a big deal 1 year ago. How ’bout now?

  72. 72 eagleyankfan said at 1:38 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Rubber bands are for stretching — not connecting a Rams/Eagle move with an upset running back in Dallas.

  73. 73 ACViking said at 1:40 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’m just looking at how Murray described what helped to bring him to Philadelphia.

    I’m not saying — for sure — what Murray wants reflects what Bradford wants.

    I’m saying, that if Bradford wants out, I can understand why Murray would want out.

    And vice-versa.

  74. 74 eagleyankfan said at 1:42 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    you implied that Murray wants out and there-for(unto forth with stuff…lol) Bradford wants out … I don’t think that’s true …
    If Eagles say – -Hey Sam – 5 years 90 mil with 25 guaranteed up front(I have no ideas on money but you get the drift) — Sam would text Murray — Good luck in your next adventure 🙂

  75. 75 ACViking said at 1:46 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I did not “impl[y] that Murray wants out.”

    I wrote, “If Murray’s serious about . . . .”

    I’m working off a premise that may or may not be true.

    So if the rumors about Murray are true — which I have no way of knowing, I have neither endorsed nor rejected — I’ve suggested that it may reflect how Bradford’s thinking, too.

  76. 76 ACViking said at 1:50 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Also . . . 5 years and 90 million?

    Sure Bradford would stay.

    But that’s fantasy land, right?

  77. 77 Greg Richards said at 3:13 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think so. Someone on twitter suggested 4 years, $80M the other day with half guaranteed. On the surface, I thought that’s ludicrous. $20M a year for Bradford? What if the deal was structured like this though:

    4-year contract
    $12M signing bonus
    $10M roster bonus on 3rd day of 2018 lg yr


    2016 – $8M(fully guaranteed)
    2017 – $12M(fully guaranteed)
    2018 – $16M(becomes fully guaranteed if on roster after 3rd day of lg yr(if roster bonus picked up))
    2019 – $20M(becomes partially guaranteed if on roster after 3rd day of 2018 lg yr)

    This is essentially a 2-yr, $32M deal that has the option of becoming a 4-yr, $78M deal. Bradford essentially makes $20M this year which is basically the same money he would make if he was franchise tagged. His cap hit for 2016 though is only $11M. This allowas you to continue to test Bradford out and what will essentially be less than the league average for veterans going forward(with the increased cap). You try to develop a QB in the meantime if you decide to move on after 2 years. If not, then it’s likely because he’s developed into approximately a franchise QB and you’re willing to pay him like one. From Bradford and his agent’s perspective, the $29M cap figure that Bradford would have in 2018 might force the Eagles into an extension/renegotiation if they want to keep him. Which could mean even more money for Bradford.

  78. 78 eagleyankfan said at 4:24 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    of course it is — but that’s the point — money drives Bradford — not Murray

  79. 79 Tumtum said at 5:50 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Good point.

  80. 80 A_T_G said at 1:45 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Wentz is certainly not splashing any cold water on the hype. Mayock is using him as the example to point out what the other guys are doing wrong in the throwing drills.

  81. 81 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:35 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Once I heard Wentz compared to Andrew Luck, that’s when I stopped listening
    I don’t really expect Wentz or Goff to be available at #13, so I don’t spend much time paying attention to them… And Goff vs Wentz debate is pointkess, because we damn sure won’t find both at #13 and have to choose 1..
    I leave the Wentz vs Goff debate to Hue Jackson or a team no later than San Fran trading up to #1

  82. 82 Insomniac said at 1:55 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Paging Mr.Belichick, anyone impress you at the combine if you’ve been watching lately?

  83. 83 D3FB said at 2:05 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Nobody has really ripped it up to the point I need to scramble to watch tape (these WRs are really slow jesus). I’m more expecting that with some of the D players.

    Missed yesterday. Thuney and Haeg both seemed to put up good numbers which was nice. Haeg is a nice G/RT type may take a year with the jump in competition. Thuney is going to be a really valuable bench OL. He’s not a starter but can reasonably play all 5 positions for a spell.

    QBs aren’t going to do anything in shorts to change my perceptions from film.

    Haven’t done a ton on the WRs to begin with and nobody is compelling me to do so.

  84. 84 Media Mike said at 2:06 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Good to hear on Haeg. He’s a guy who’d I’d like to read more about.

  85. 85 D3FB said at 2:17 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Good not great feet. Swings his arms way too much in pass pro when kick sliding, so I’m not sure he’s a pure LT (maybe in a pinch down the road). Strong, technically sound. Good player. Should be a starter, only question is how long the jump in competition takes him (could take a week could take 2 years, never know until you get them in camp).

  86. 86 Media Mike said at 2:18 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Backup guard / tackle 2016. Starting RT in 2017 when Peters is cut and Lane goes to LT.

    That was easy.

  87. 87 D3FB said at 2:28 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I think he even can compete for a G spot this year.

  88. 88 Media Mike said at 2:32 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Even better!

  89. 89 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 7:27 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    What NFL Scouts are saying
    “Joe has the feet of a dancer out there, setting up and cutting off rushers with his natural quicks. He’s also bigger than I thought. Definitely shows skills that we can work with on our team.” – NFC East scout

  90. 90 Media Mike said at 7:33 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Thank you

  91. 91 Charlie Kelly said at 1:58 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    keep murray suffer this year, next year do everthing we can to get stanford RB mccaffary

  92. 92 Media Mike said at 1:59 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Lynch played like a human tampon vs. Temple. I don’t like him at all as a first rounder. Seems too risky.

  93. 93 Mitchell said at 2:07 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Did you watch the game though? NO ONE on his team was helping him out. Also, you would judge a prospect on one game alone?!

  94. 94 Media Mike said at 2:07 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    He also looked menstrual vs. Auburn.

  95. 95 A_T_G said at 2:07 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    He got down under center, stopped the bleeding, and solved the problem?

  96. 96 D3FB said at 2:12 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Counterpoint: Wentz looked human against South Dakota.

  97. 97 Media Mike said at 2:15 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Totally fair. Wentz is really a lot of projection due to the level of competition, but Lynch just feels to risky at 13. But I like how Wentz delivers the football much better than Lynch. But I’d agree with you to go all-in on Goff.

  98. 98 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:16 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Lynch needs to sit. If a team brings him along instead of making him a day 1 starter I think he can be a good QB

  99. 99 Media Mike said at 2:18 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’d but that for a dollar. I just see him as a distant 3rd and not worthy of a pick at 13.

  100. 100 D3FB said at 2:23 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Is he a potential franchise QB?

    If yes don’t get cute.

    It’s that simple.

  101. 101 Media Mike said at 2:23 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’m “lean no” on him if you get a gun to my head.

  102. 102 D3FB said at 2:42 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Ummmm well I’m not Ted Nugent so I’m not going to put a gun to your head.

  103. 103 Media Mike said at 2:49 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’d love a chance to “chat” with Ted Nugent for a few minutes.

  104. 104 Stephen E. said at 12:04 PM on February 29th, 2016:

    Um, when has Ted Nugent ever put a gun to anyone’s head?

  105. 105 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:24 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If we placed the transition tag on Bradford or brought him for a year or two I could live with Lynch at 13. He just needs to be developed

  106. 106 Media Mike said at 2:25 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’d feel better with that after having traded down because I’m not sold on Lynch 100% panning out.

    And I’m not convinced anybody else is really after Bradford, so he can sign Howie’s deal or take a one-year prove-it deal elsewhere.

  107. 107 A_T_G said at 2:00 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I am not a college football fan, and definitely not a scout, but I need someone to explain to me why I should want us to get Goff more than I should want us to get Wentz.

  108. 108 D3FB said at 2:02 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    21 year old on a whole different level of mental processing vs. a 23 year old with a howitzer.

  109. 109 Media Mike said at 2:03 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    “mental processing”

    So key. And so absent from a few of these read one and run bums some folks are trying to hype up later in the draft.

  110. 110 D3FB said at 2:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    It’s the thing that annoys me with “Wentz and Lynch have higher ceilings”. Size and athleticism =/= upside with QBs. It’s a nice tool to have in the bag, but Goff is 6’4 and will settle in at 225lbs. That’s plenty big. He’s roughly the same athlete.

    I’ll take the guy who can make all the throws and is on another level mentally over the monster human who is a good athlete.

  111. 111 Media Mike said at 2:24 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    This cannot be said enough times.

  112. 112 A_T_G said at 2:09 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Should I be happier if Dallas takes Wentz at 4 or if he falls to us at 13?

  113. 113 Media Mike said at 2:10 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If it means we got either Wentz or Goff, that’s good for us.

  114. 114 D3FB said at 2:14 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    As long as Dallas doesn’t get the golden boy from Cal I’m ok.

    I’d prefer us to have a potential franchise QB and Dallas not. So I’d rather have Wentz than him be in Dallas.

  115. 115 A_T_G said at 3:16 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Okay, so he is definitely worth the attention he is getting? He isn’t just one of the pretty girls at math club? Goff just happens to be a model as well as president of math club?

  116. 116 D3FB said at 6:09 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Very much so. He’s got the potential to be special.

  117. 117 SteveH said at 3:30 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Don’t worry Jerry’s gonna bring in Manziel as Romo’s future replacement at QB.

  118. 118 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:44 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Aaron Rodgers was from Cal. Let’s not be too hasty. ;~)

  119. 119 solid said at 9:20 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I live in enemy territory, and all the radio people down here love Goff. That being said, they’re still split discussion on QB vs. other positions – Bosa, Ramsey.

  120. 120 D3FB said at 6:08 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    They’re probably going to get a good player. I’d just strongly prefer it not be a QB.

    Bosa’s probably the best possible outcome for us. I see alot of Chris Long. Good player. Can be a headache at times but never a guy you’re going to crap you’re pants about having to face for a decade.

  121. 121 Dominik said at 8:18 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    How do you think Goffs small hands will impact his draft stock? (not him being a good player, but where he’s drafted, huge difference, as we all know). His hands are clearly on the small end of the spectrum.

    Hue Jackson said it’s important for him because of the elements in the NFC North. We all know Chip values hand size. And imo, those are the two most realistic options to pick a QB before we’re on the clock (let’s ignore the possibility of a trade up for a minute).

    I’m not saying we can pick Goff at #13. But after I read about his hand size and Jacksons comment about it being important, knowing it’s important for Chip, my hopes kind of went up. What’s your take on that?

  122. 122 SteveH said at 2:01 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Thanks Chip! You managed to fuck things up more in a year than I thought possible.

  123. 123 solid said at 2:08 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I blame Frank Gore. lol

  124. 124 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:08 PM on February 27th, 2016:


  125. 125 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:54 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    That’s from LeSean

  126. 126 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:54 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Chip kelly totally fucked us eagles fans.. Right up the pussy! Now our highest paid player doesn’t even want to be on the team. Worthless scum chip kelly!!

  127. 127 Patrick said at 2:56 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    When has Jason Peters said he doesn’t want to be on the Eagles?

  128. 128 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:01 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Oh yeah defend chip kelly ya weasel.

  129. 129 Patrick said at 3:21 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Thats a little agressive for someone who was completely and indisputably wrong about a very simple fact.

    Maybe if you actually had more of what you name suggests, you could upgrade from troll into something cool, like Shrek or one of those UrukHais from Lord of the Rings, those we’re pretty badass.

  130. 130 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:30 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    It’s the weekend mother fucker. Unless you are some blue colar scab shut your mouth. Troll time is during the week. Go flyers!!!

  131. 131 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:03 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I was wrong it’s their fourth highest paid okayer. I no difference chip kelly is still a complete scum bag. Who trades for a qb then doesn’t immediately sign him before the trade is consummated. Piece of idiot garbage. Completely out of his league in over his head narcissist

  132. 132 SteveH said at 3:30 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    You know, I would tip my cap to you because you continue to get replies, but honestly you’re not even trying really hard and it’s still working.

  133. 133 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:40 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I ain’t trying for shit. Go flyers!!!

  134. 134 Patrick said at 3:44 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Sorry, i couldn’t help myself. Im easy to amuse.

  135. 135 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:42 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    He might be more interesting if he could come up with something original. For instance, speaking his “mind” without using 500-year-old common little vulgar references to human anatomy.The same old, same old childish stupidity he thinks is clever gets so monotonous.
    Ho hum.

  136. 136 Mitchell said at 3:44 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Just watched Sterling Shepherd run a hitch route at the combine
    ….. Good luck defending that. Its one of the best hitch routes i have ever seen.

  137. 137 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 8:04 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    he’s on the list of 5 guys who will make me pee a little bit if their name is called in our spot

  138. 138 Mitchell said at 2:27 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Move Matthews outside and toss Shepherd in the slot? Agholor as the other WR.

  139. 139 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:31 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Must be one of only few that want to see Murray in new scheme under Pederson

  140. 140 Rellihcs said at 6:53 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’m with you. I think this just Howie trying to grasp at a potential straw to see if there might be a crazy “buyer” who can net some assets. Longshot but little risk in his eyes perhaps.

  141. 141 P_P_K said at 7:15 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’d be happy if a trade for real value could be made. If not, yea, maybe Murray will find success with a new coach. Would be very cool.

  142. 142 D3FB said at 6:05 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I mean if you build him a runway and give him a defined path sure. But he’s got no speed, and his vision was trash.

    Will he be better? Probably.

    I’m just not super excited for a guy I’m going to have to work to get to 4.0 ypc.

  143. 143 A_T_G said at 4:43 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    On Murray, if he wants out of Philly for Dallas so bad, I would be in favor of paying his full salary and then trading him for a backup punter, as long as we trade him to SF. I would then be in favor of cutting the backup punter while still on the conference call.

  144. 144 EaglesGameBalls said at 4:53 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    That’s awesome bro good shit

  145. 145 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:43 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    All 3 RBs need to be replaced in the next two offseasons, so I hope we consider Zeke Elliot, the kid is such a beast, and a complete back.. urban called him one of the best players he has ever coached without the ball, which says a ton when you add how Nasty he is with the ball in his hands,,, Id love an Explosive young Bruiser like him under the tutelege of Duuuuuuucccceeee!!!! Elliot is also the type of physical back you tend to see play deep into January… Nasty young beast to punish defenders in cold weather games. Catches the ball. Blocks well….Hope we give him some serious consideration if we trade back and he is still available..
    I expect to get our starting Safety in free agency, and you don’t NEED to draft an OL in round 1’to fix our line., what im trying to say is if he is the BPA whenever we end up picking, RB is a big enough need to pull the trigger on a kid who will go on to be a franchise back for the better part of a decade

  146. 146 A_T_G said at 4:49 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Mayock pointed out how the teams that got their money worth from highly drafted RBs were th ones that built all of the infrastructure first – OL, TE, system – then looked for a back. He used STL as an example.

    The ones who did not probably regret it. He used SD as an example. I think we are closer to SD than STL in terms of our infrastructure.

  147. 147 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:54 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Considering OL is probably #1 on offseason to do list, I wouldn’t worry about the Eagles drafting a RB, but neglecting the OL… And the Eagles have less immediate starting needs fhan I think we realize

  148. 148 A_T_G said at 5:01 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    But if you are resigning Bradford, signing a safety, and using our first rounder on Zeke, I don’t think there are enough resources left.

  149. 149 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:08 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    What’s wrong with 3rd round picks? gardner, Barbe, two 3rd rounders.. I would hope those 4 competing could provide two starters…
    It’s not like the only way to find starting Guards is to draft them in round 1..
    I also doubt ZEKE would be BPA at #13… Probably see a DT rated higher than him, and we need a 2nd string DT with interior pass rush to pair with Beau Allen… DL wil get tired and need to rotate with how much Schwartz will have them explode up field… I would think that we would have to trade back a bit for ZEKE to be the highest rated player, but im just guessing, I don’t have the best grasp on this draft class…

    If we have SAM and a safety in FA, I don’t see why they can’t fix the OL if they draft another position in round 1… I think there is a great chance they draft a DT in round 1, does that mean our OL is doomed?
    If we don’t hit on more than one player from this draft, we will have bigger problems than this convo . For me, TE is the only position off the table in round 1, and Safety of we pay for one. I don’t think we have to target specific positions in round 1

  150. 150 A_T_G said at 5:16 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Maybe, but it just feels like a very… Chip approach.

    I feel like we neglected the foundation for too long. Get the OL right. Find the bookend to play guard until Peters is done. Find some guards that are assets and not just usually adequate. Get a backup for Kelce.

    The best thing about our defense is that we are strong up front. That should be the best part of our offense, too. Besides, good RBs are cheap and great RBs come out every year.

  151. 151 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I hear you,,, Id be the first person To go Ballistic if they don’t fix the OL problems. I just think there is a very real chance that a starting Guard ISNT signed in Free Agency, AND that the Eagles don’t draft an OL in round 1… And if those two things hold true, I wouldn’t just assume that the OL isn’t going to be improved as much as we hope..
    Personally im hoping im wrong and the Eagles find a way to pay SAM, ILLOKA and a starting Guard… regardless of what we do in Free agency, if there,is a tie and there are a bunch of different positions with the same grade available when we pick in round 1, Taking the OL would be a no BRAINER for me. I would NEVER pick another position over an Offensive Lineman if they are graded the same… My problem is that while I don’t have the best grasp on this draft class, I get the impression that there is a very real chance that there won’t be an OL who is the best player available at #13, and under no circumstance do I want to reach for any position…
    As long as there isn’t a player at another position available with a higher grade, Id take the OL all day in round 1 this year… But not interested in reaching for an OL… At #13, I think it’s more important that we get a kid who will be one Of our 10 best players 4 years from now, than it is to reach for an OL… Unless the Tackle from Notre Dame is available at #13, im not sure there will be an OL we can take at that spot.
    And I really don’t think its the end of the world if we don’t take an OL in the 1st.. For Me, not getting a solid starter in round 3 will ALWAYS be considered a FAILURE! I believe you should be getting legit starting talent with top 100 picks..
    I was also probably higher on Gardner going into this last season than most people. Tobin was the bigger Igglesblitz darling..
    Ideally, im looking to come out of this draft with two OL drafted no later than the top #150, at Least one better be drafted in the top 100.. Best case,scenario, the two OL will be:
    1) the starting RT of the future Who can start his NFL career at Guard
    2) a guy Who has been a Guard for years, if we really get lucky, this player will have center versatility, but that’s not Neccessary
    Between a RT Who can play guard from rounds 1-3), a Guard drafted in rounds 3 or 4, Andrew Gardner, Barbre, BUNCHE, we should be able to come out of that camp battle with two guards who can fix this major problem..
    Even today, I just don’t see Guard as a position that you have to draft in round 1.. Id love to end up with the best guard in the draft, whoever that may be, but im not sure we will be able to get that Guy at #13… im really trying to prepare myself for a real possibility that there wont be an OL to draft at #13… Picking this high in the draft, we NEED to add high end talent and find a kid who will be one Of our 10 best playërs 4 years from now much More than we need to be targeting a specific position in round 1

  152. 152 Greg Tulino said at 11:19 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Any time you go 7-9, get blown out of many games and you are ranked 30th in total defense I think we need more than a guard and a safety to be considered a contender in the NFC. In addition to stability and quality production at the QB position the team needs to draft well over the next 2-3 years before we can become legitimate contenders. Most people believe the Eagles will win 6-7 games next year. If we draft well we can probably get back into playoff contention in 2 years. I agree we are in a position to draft BPA and hopefully we can hit on many of our picks in the next few years. The more we hit on the quicker we can actually contend again.

  153. 153 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:10 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    We NEED PLENTY, depth talent at just about every position besides TE…. But NO, I don’t think there are many starting openings for next year that need to still be filled

  154. 154 A_T_G said at 4:44 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I would be so embarrassed if someone described my job performance as better if I didn’t have to think and could just work.

  155. 155 P_P_K said at 7:14 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    There is such a job, it’s called “Husband.”

  156. 156 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:29 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    No intelligent woman wants a husband without a brain.That would be incredibly boring.

  157. 157 P_P_K said at 11:09 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Certainly you’re right. I love that clip from one of the great film masterpieces. If there could be one more character missing something essential, I propose it be a guy without a sense of humor. I wonder how the Wizard would have gifted him?

  158. 158 laeagle said at 11:31 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    A dildo? Certainly would have changed to tone of the movie.

  159. 159 P_P_K said at 9:09 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    If this wasn’t a family site I could offer a million jokes.

  160. 160 ChoTime said at 10:12 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    A Swedish ____ enlarger?

  161. 161 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:53 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    The Murray reports sound wrong to me,.. Instead of the Eagles “listening to offers for Murray”, it makes more sense to me that the Eagles would give murray permission to seek a trade because I don’t think there is anything the Eagles have to “listen for”… The compensation to the Eagles won’t matter. We would be doing the deal to get him off our cap, not trading him to get value in return… There is NOTHNG for teams to talk to the Eagles about, think the real issue is teams have to talk directly to Murray to try and get him renegotiate his contract to make it a deal a team is willing to take on… Figuring out the compensation to give the Eagles is the easy Part..
    If there is truth to this story, then I would assume the Eagles gave MURRAYS camp permission to find a team that would be willing to trade for him. I don’t believe anyone will trade for his contract the way it currently is structured. I hope im wrong, but it makes more sense to me that the entire issue is finding a trade partner who needs to reach an agreement on a contract restructuring with MURRAYS camp. Without that, I don’t think we will see a trade… Why would the Eagles be listening to offers? As if someone wants to trade for Murray, but we would say no if they aren’t offering enough? Get real…
    Im sure the Eagles aren’t expecting any serious compensatiob when trying to trade an Older RB who’s game tape from last season was horrendous,
    The compensation is getting him off our cap… If we are able to move him, I don’t expect to get more in return than trading Murray and a 7th for a teams 6th, or it would be a player for player deal For some camp body

  162. 162 EaglesGameBalls said at 4:59 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Holy fucking shit who even has time to write this shit let alone read it and respond. Are you retarded?

  163. 163 TypicalDouche said at 9:38 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    He’s not retarded but you are a coward bitch.

  164. 164 A_T_G said at 4:55 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Does the CBA allow a player to renegotiate his salary downward to lower his cap hit? Because if it does, there is Murray’s path back to Dallas. If he doesn’t want out enough to pass on the money, then shut up and do your job.

  165. 165 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:56 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    You can restructure contracts… See what’s going on with Flacco and the Ravens

  166. 166 EaglesGameBalls said at 4:57 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Shortest reply of his life

  167. 167 EaglesGameBalls said at 4:57 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Best reply of his life

  168. 168 A_T_G said at 4:59 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Right, he can restructure, but can he do it in a way that reduces his cap hit enough to release him, or is the majority of his hit tied to a signing bonus he already received?

  169. 169 Fufina said at 5:10 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Yeah you can reduce salary and total salary. Think it would be more likely to be something like moving 2mil from 2016 and spreading it over the rest of the deal, he can be cut in 2017 if he continues to struggle and has a chance to make back his money if he has a great year.

  170. 170 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:15 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Isnt that kind of one of the biggest reasons why we see guys restructure? Change the cap hit, free up cap space
    Id love to just trade him for a bag of donuts and move on…. But I find it hard to believe a team would trade for his current contract Aftet the putrid season he put on film… Im Assumimg, Murray is going to agree to change that contract significantly to get a team to take him in a trade..
    Which is why I don’t understand the report that the Eagles are listening to offers.. That makes no sense to me…. This is one Of those situations where I believe we have to give him permission to find a trade partner because he will have to work out a new deal for a team to take him. Working out the compensation is the easy part.. The team will say, I’ll give you a jock strap for Murray, and Roseman will say DEAL!!!
    Just hypothesizing

  171. 171 A_T_G said at 5:19 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Unless, “we are listening to offers” comes with the unsaid subtext of “and all I hear are crickets. Get to work.”

  172. 172 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:26 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    True…. Our part of The deal is the easy part, it cost us 13mil to cut him, where as it cost like 4mil to trade him… That’s what’s in it for us, erasing this mistake for 9mil less than if we cut him which is probably impossible.. Why would we ever cut him and pay 13, when we can just tell him To stay home and it costs us what 5? 6mil?
    I don’t mind seeing what Pederson can do with him.. But if he doesn’t want to be here, it has no shot of working, Hopefully a team is interested in him that he wants to play for bad enough to make Whatever changes to his contract to get the team to agree to take him
    I don’t fear Murray emough to try and keep him away from Dallas… Id gladly see the Eagles fascilitate that reunion as far as I’m concerned.. Even if we don’t draft a RB, it erases a very expensive mistake, and allows SProles and Ryan Mathews to be happy splitting carries two ways instead of three
    Hopefully some team saves us from chips mistake, but if reports are false, and Murray is perfectly fine to remain in Philly, I have interest in seeing how much better Doug can use him than chip did, but the last thing Pederson needs is a disgruntled, expensive veteran to start his HC career

  173. 173 daveH said at 6:06 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If he doesn’t want to be here run him 50 times in a row. As a start. Run him every play. Make him cry for his mommy

  174. 174 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:30 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Paying him to stay home, makes more sense than cutting him… Hopefully someone rescues us and takes him in a trade

  175. 175 ACViking said at 6:27 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    No. You can’t turn a previously paid singing bonus into something else.

    Anyone who says you can hasn’t a clue what they’re talking about.

    Restructures are done to turn as-yet big unpaid salary into bonus money that can be spread over several years.

  176. 176 FairOaks said at 3:01 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Yes, but …

    Any cap hit caused by money already paid (such as a signing bonus) cannot be changed. Murray had a relatively low $5 million bonus, so if traded or released the Eagles will, at a minimum, had $4 million in dead money this year.

    Murray has $7 million in fully guaranteed salary this year — that is the big issue. If the Eagles release him, they are on the hook for that amount (minus whatever amount Murray is signed for by another team, if there is offset language in the contract, which I think there is). If traded, the other team is on the hook for that amount and the Eagles still have significant cap savings ($4 million) despite the dead money.

    In theory yes, Murray could agree to lower his salary this year in order to be more tradeable — probably as part of a trade to his desired team. But the NFLPA probably frowns on that, and agents / players would usually not want to give up guaranteed money like that.

    As part of a trade, it might be possible to get a little creative with a renegotiation to split the cost between the two teams. If Murray agreed to convert say $2 million of that salary to a signing bonus, then the Eagles would pay that immediately, and the other team would then pay the $5 million which is left (plus the $2 million of guaranteed money in 2017) — leaving the Eagles with just $2 million of cap space savings. Or he could agree to a small reduction in salary in combination with the above.

    It would all depend on how much the Eagles want him gone — if just a small cap savings, it may not be worth it. But the full $4 million savings would be nice, if another team wants to take on the full salary.

    I don’t think there is any way to just release him, unless Murray voluntarily gives up on his guaranteed money this year and next ($9 million of guaranteed dough). That seems completely unrealistic. I think it would have to be a trade to make any sense at all.

    I don’t think you can release a player with the understanding that a new team will sign him to at least X salary to reduce the Eagles amount they are on the hook for via the offsets.

  177. 177 D3FB said at 5:58 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    You can’t give guaranteed money back. I’m not sure if it’s legal to start with and it sure as hell wouldn’t fly with the players union.

    The signing bonus has already been paid. He’s got that money in his bank account.

    What he could renegotiate is his salary (spreading out the guaranteed portion).

    He’s currently due 7 mil in guaranteed salary this year and 2 million next year (7.5 in overall salary in 2017,18, and 19).

    If he wants to restructure, you would likely give him a little more guaranteed money to stretch it out a year and move some of his non guaranteed salary into performance incentives.

    Something like:
    2016: 5 mil guaranteed
    2017: 4 mil guaranteed
    2018: 2 mil guaranteed

    So you’d be getting him to lower his cap number in 16 and moving some of that guaranteed money into 17. Then you give him a couple million of guarantees (likely prorated new signing bonus) for 18 as a thank you for his trouble (and for turning some of his unguaranteed salary into performance bonuses). If he sucks for 2 years you cut him and eat the small dead money hit in 18.

    Frankly it probably makes the most sense for a team acquiring him to just have the higher cap hit this year. Most teams will have 7 mil in cap room. That way if it backfires you get out of it for only 2 mil after the season. If he’s good then you’re probably renegotiating something new anyways to fit in other contracts moving forward.

  178. 178 Media Mike said at 5:47 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    So this should throw a wet blanket on the “Barwin should be the SAM” crowd.

  179. 179 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 5:51 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I honestly think he can play either OLB or 43 DE. I don’t think its a big deal

  180. 180 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:55 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think anything at this point will put an end to that crap

  181. 181 EaglesGameBalls said at 5:56 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Barwin will be cut

  182. 182 Rellihcs said at 6:28 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If by “cut” you mean he will continue to have pronounced muscle definition, you are correct. Otherwise, you are severely mistaken.

  183. 183 EaglesGameBalls said at 6:41 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    He will be cut I am nosyadumbass

  184. 184 Rellihcs said at 6:55 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    My B. I had a lapse in attention and thought it was a legit person posting that. Troll on clueless loser.

  185. 185 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:16 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If replying to the “person” above, just remember what happened to the Patriots game balls. And smile.

  186. 186 Aaron said at 8:54 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Ive had it wit choo, Im the reigning idiot on here, but you are giving me a run, punk, I am your farther

  187. 187 TypicalDouche said at 9:42 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Just beyond sad that you reply to yourself on posts, you are clearly a bipolar troll to the fullest extent.

  188. 188 Aaron said at 1:31 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    ?, OK, your name fits ya

  189. 189 TypicalDouche said at 2:32 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Im sure it does suit me and I ate agree yet you are still a troll sock puppet.

  190. 190 Tumtum said at 7:32 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    4 second 40. Impressive.

  191. 191 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:23 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Apparently quarterbacks aren’t the only ones with somewhat skinny legs!

  192. 192 ChoTime said at 10:10 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Damn, he looked 40 when he was 22.

  193. 193 daveH said at 6:03 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Kiko or Kendricks too big & slow to be safety ?

  194. 194 Media Mike said at 6:05 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    I’d say yes and yes.

    And I’d add Kendricks is too stupid to diagnose properly in that role.

  195. 195 daveH said at 11:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    ahh shucks .. I used to love Michael Lewis because he could and would tackle everyone … but unfortunately lost in pass plays ..

  196. 196 Media Mike said at 7:17 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Michael Lewis should have been on the field vs. Tampa in the 2002 playoff choke, but we were stuck watching Blaine Bishop.

    But you’re correct, that he couldn’t pass cover worth beans.

  197. 197 EaglesGameBalls said at 6:56 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Mk will be a killer mb

  198. 198 wee2424 said at 11:46 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    To big and slow. The majority of the time a 220 lb safety is to slow in coverage nowadays.

    A safety needs dicipline which Kendricks has lacked throughout his career. Alonso was burnt in coverage by RBS and TES last year, and so was Kendricks to a lesser extent but still often. Since that’s the case how do you expect them to fair against wrs?

  199. 199 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:07 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Meet George ILLOKA, 6’4 225lb, pretty solid in coverage

  200. 200 wee2424 said at 1:37 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Unfortunately that’s not the norm nowadays. Regardless he is a S in which Kendricks and Alonso are not.

  201. 201 daveH said at 5:22 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    only in playing WRs deep. I don’t expect them to keep up with speedy WRs but I do think they are fast & athletic enough to get under thrown passes .. if that slight difference makes sense or is important enough.
    I hate watching eagles defenses that constantly rely on our defensive backs to make lots of tackles .. those are our smallest guys!
    im just wondering out loud if Kendriks especially who seems to be flying around all over the place can use that speed a good size to be flying all over the defensive backfield chasing down log passes or RB’s who have broken loose .. as if the greater open space plays to this speed & athleticism vs the tight space where he seems to get faked out or overrun the play…

  202. 202 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:22 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Whaaat?? Kelly, The Evil Emperor Jr. is not responsible for every horrible thing that happened in Philadelphia for the last 60 years??!?? Oh no! Why, is it possible that he also might NOT be the reason Kaep’s agent is making noises about a trade? Possibly the same agent who negotiated the awful contract (from the QB’s point of view) that Kaepernick signed last year. Oh no!! Who will we tar-and-feather now??

  203. 203 TypicalDouche said at 9:36 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Chip doesn’t coach the Eagles anymore so can you stop with your pointless, daily Chip homer post.

  204. 204 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:06 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    It’s better than her pro 1970’s steelers crap at least

  205. 205 GENETiC-FREAK said at 9:58 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    What the heck you on about?? Chip aint here no more.. You sound like you in denial why he was bad n why he is gone.. Too smart for his own good

  206. 206 TypicalDouche said at 10:00 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Don’t waste your time buddy, Mags only post stupid nonsense no one cares about.

  207. 207 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:06 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Basically… Trolls interest me more than her Wikpedia cut n paste crap

  208. 208 wee2424 said at 11:36 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    More like to arrogant for his own good

  209. 209 ChoTime said at 10:10 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Eh, you mean Steve Spurrier Jr? Who cares?

  210. 210 The original AG said at 10:47 PM on February 27th, 2016:

  211. 211 anon said at 2:13 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    makes you wonder what sammy’s offer looked like

  212. 212 Media Mike said at 7:16 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    If you tag a guy for $20 million, you just told him he was worth $20 million. $12.5 and $15 are far less than $20.

    Cousins is going to make $20 million in 2016 and $24 million in 2017 if they have to tag him back to back.

    So $44 million in the pocket of Cousins in the first two years of the deal (from both bonus and salary) is the least he should take to sign.

  213. 213 Joe Minx said at 11:29 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Steph Curry is beyond incredible.

  214. 214 GermanEagle said at 11:42 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Not human. So isn’t Aaron Rodgers.

  215. 215 GermanEagle said at 11:41 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    If Dawk is not a first ballot HoFer, hell will freeze. #legend

  216. 216 Bob Brewer said at 7:10 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    With the way the NFL makes selections, he’s not a first ballot hall of famer.

  217. 217 Media Mike said at 7:14 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Safety is a tough position for the HOF. The voters typically don’t rush the picks there. They’ve also been letting in some bad candidates recently, so who knows with Dawk getting in quickly.

  218. 218 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:39 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Dawk should get in right away, he is the godfather of the modern day safeties, The Ed Reeds, Troy Polomalus all came after DAWKINS redefined the position.. It also helps him that he is a class act, and now has transitioned to media. m sure,the voters his fellow media members all know this is a special type of safety case that needs to be inducted ASAP…. I can’t imagine him not getting in right away

  219. 219 wee2424 said at 3:54 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Dawkins did redefine the position but I think it’s a stretch to say Reed was anyway in his mold. Reed was a ball hawking animal that played the position totally different then Dawkins.Two great safties, but two different types. Neither one owes the other in anyway.

  220. 220 BreakinAnklez said at 1:02 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Get ready. Love Dawkins as much as next guy, but no chance.

  221. 221 GermanEagle said at 11:43 PM on February 27th, 2016:

    Will Fuller, are you f kidding me?!

  222. 222 Media Mike said at 7:55 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    He’s a body catcher from what I’ve seen / read. I don’t know if I can stomach one more guy with bad hands on this team.

    But the 40 time got him paid.

  223. 223 Gary Barnes said at 1:03 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I tell Murray to pound sand and do the freaking job he is being handsomely paid to do. The guy is the biggest whiny crybaby. He has had one great year as a RB and the rest have been mediocre in Dallas and here. Guess what, Dallas did not want him which is why they let him go. We’re getting a good sense for some of the reasons why. He signed a legit contract of his own free will – STFU and play or sit IMO.

  224. 224 wee2424 said at 1:20 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Apparently it’s come out that some in the Dallas organization didn’t want him back not just because money, but also due to his me first attitude.

  225. 225 Media Mike said at 7:13 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    His contract is really only burdensome for us for 2017. He’s easy to cut in 2018 if we have to. So I’d run him 400 times this year just to get my money’s worth.

  226. 226 Greg Richards said at 9:19 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Really only burdensome this year. Next year, only $2M is guaranteed. You don’t like eating dead money on the cap, but the overall cap is big enough right now that cutting him won’t hurt significantly.

  227. 227 Tumtum said at 10:16 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Why cut him? He has been paid handsomely. Time for a return on investment. Demarco isn’t T.O. If he is here he will be a good teammate. He will be in an offense that did pretty damn well with RBs over the years.

    Get over it or dwell on it and get suspended conduct detrimental. Fairly easy decision.

  228. 228 Media Mike said at 12:27 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    You’re correct. I meant to type 2016 and 17, rather than 17 and 18.

    And in either case, I’d still run him into the ground.

  229. 229 TypicalDouche said at 7:44 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I’ve always wondered why don’t more front offices play hardball and just tell the player either you play here for the contact you signed or retire and the team can just squat on his rights and make him suffer. 2 plain and simple choices. All the whining and complaining does is make the player look bad so I wish the team took a stance and just shit on Murray. I can bet my house and entire love savings that Murray would be there playing if it came to that.

  230. 230 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:04 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I would gladly give him 6mil and tell him to stay home all year

  231. 231 Cafone said at 3:03 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I’m happy Dallas RB DeMarco Murray is not happy. I am also happy that Dallas doesn’t get to have him. Maybe they can use a pick on an RB in the draft. Money well spent in my opinion. In retrospect, this was Chip’s best move.

  232. 232 Mr. Magee said at 12:54 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Chip? Is that you?

  233. 233 wee2424 said at 3:44 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Why are you happy he is unhappy? If he were happy that would probably mean we were not in this situation.

    Chips best move? He is severely hurting our cap situation. He could probably do less damage to us then he is now if he were playing in Dallas and we never signed him. Plus the damage he would do to their cap situation.

  234. 234 Kirk said at 3:48 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I am just hoping we don’t have another Stewart Bradley situation with Kiko. Such good players before the acl injuries, and then Stew was just a shell of himself after.

  235. 235 Media Mike said at 7:12 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Kiko has 16 games to fix that. I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt for why last year was so horrible, but he needs to be at his 2013 ROY level of play when the regular season starts.

  236. 236 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:34 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    His body needs to llook better in Camp, or he shouldn’t be given 16 games… It’s all about his health, and his post surgery athleticism ability…. If he doesn’t look like a completely different player in Camp, he can’t start in September..
    An injury setback would ruin him….. Hopefully he is back to as close to his pre injury form as possible…. It’s all about whether or not his body will allow him to be the FORCE he was for the Bills before he got hurt. I still have hope for him, but we need a contingency plan

  237. 237 ChoTime said at 10:08 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Question: The man had one good season in the NFL. How do we know that it wasn’t a fluke? Lots of players have been one-hit wonders.

  238. 238 Tumtum said at 10:13 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    He was a high pick for a reason. I think he will be fine.

  239. 239 TypicalDouche said at 10:18 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Stew was a 3rd round pick and Kiko was a 2nd rounder so there isn’t much difference there. Also what makes you so confident Kiko will be fine? Stew was essentially done after his injury.

  240. 240 Tumtum said at 10:23 AM on March 1st, 2016:

    Stew never showed to be quite as good as Kiko pre-injury. I honestly hadn’t even considered that he would be affected long term by the injury. Of course I didn’t think Stew would be either. Still not convinced it was the injury with Stew.

    He did show he was able to recover from the same injury before. I think this situation should be considered much more favorably than the Stew case.

    You did succeed in making me a bit more nervous. Thanks!

  241. 241 bentheimmigrant said at 10:59 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Playing lights out for a whole season at the highest level in the sport is not a fluke.
    Whether he recovers from his injury problems is another question.

  242. 242 BlindChow said at 12:08 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Maybe once teams “had tape” on him they “figured him out.”

  243. 243 wee2424 said at 3:42 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Many of the plays he made in 2013 were based on amazing skill such as the INT against ATL. Whatever came his way in 2013 he dominated. I highly doubt the film on him is what made him regress.

    I don’t know why people assume it takes 16 weeks to get film, analyze it and then apply it. Don’t you think by week 8 or so there was enough film on him for OCs to try and game plan against him in 2013? This is the NFL, coaches are constantly watching film and game planning.

  244. 244 BlindChow said at 8:04 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Um, I was just making fun of what people say when QB’s have one good year, then immediately regress.

    I seriously doubt anyone was gameplanning for Kiko Alonso.

  245. 245 ChoTime said at 5:49 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    When you say lights out, do you mean it’s because he won defensive rookie of the year? Like in the way that Bradford won offensive rookie of the year? Who sucked that year? By the way, I am just asking a question, I know nothing about Kiko’s first year besides people talking about it.

  246. 246 bentheimmigrant said at 5:59 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I remember him being one of the best LBs in the league that year. I’m sure some of it was hype and highlights, but he had the stats to back it up.

  247. 247 D3FB said at 5:25 AM on February 29th, 2016:

    He went top 50 in the draft for a reason. He had a full season of outstanding production. This isn’t a case of Jamar Chaney or Bryce Brown having a few nice games down the stretch. If he’s healthy he’s going to be good. It’s a question of health not ability.

  248. 248 P_P_K said at 10:22 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    That was a bummer, Stew showed such promise.

  249. 249 Allen3000 said at 10:40 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    True. At least with Kiko we have no long term investment and his salary is relatively low. At this point, it’s simply low risk, high reward.

    I should actually say it’s more of a moderate risk because we need to have a backup plan if his struggles extend into the 2016 regular season.

    I’m most concerned with Kendricks. He’s getting paid to produce at a high level and he was terribly inefficient this past year. He really needs to take that next step and be a more consistently reliable player. No one is asking or expecting him to be an all-pro, but he is definitely getting paid to be a well-above average/pro-bowl caliber player.

  250. 250 Mr. Magee said at 12:53 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I think we do… I don’t expect him to even make it through training camp

  251. 251 wee2424 said at 3:33 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    What is it that makes you think that? Nowadays the successful recovery for a young player with that injury is more common then a failure. I’m not saying I disagree necessarily, but I’m just curious of your insight into why you beleive that.

    He had a lot going against him last year. Missing a full season of football, getting traded to a new team and scheme, missing a lot of the offseason to fully adjust to that scheme. I think if he can stay healthy this offseason it will do him wonders.

  252. 252 益群网 said at 5:11 AM on February 28th, 2016:


  253. 253 A_T_G said at 9:01 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Breaking news: it is likely to happen soon, later, or not at all. Probably.

  254. 254 Media Mike said at 9:06 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Makes sense because the Eagles have avoided the tag with Bradford. It boils down to Howie’s offer vs. whatever possible offers could be coming Bradford’s way on the open market. If Condon is trying to goose up Howie’s offer, he’ll need a strong bidder to help him. Howie doesn’t see that.

    So we’ll see what goes down.

  255. 255 Tumtum said at 10:11 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I felt like the tag was the best option. Pretty weary about a long term deal.

  256. 256 laeagle said at 12:29 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Wary, not weary. Sorry, it’s a pet peeve.

  257. 257 ICDogg said at 3:38 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    My friend’s dog is named Peeve.

  258. 258 A Roy said at 6:13 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I wanted to name our dog “Kitty” but it was nixed.

  259. 259 Dude said at 4:33 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Nothing like playing grammar nazi and screwing it up.

  260. 260 laeagle said at 4:34 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    What’s screwed up? People say “weary” when they mean “wary”. Maybe sometimes they mean “leery” but they usually mean “wary”. And it’s not grammar, it’s word usage…

  261. 261 Dude said at 9:03 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Yeah, I don’t know what I was going for there. I thought Tumtum was being a grammar nazi and screwed it up. Then you called him out on his mistake too. But that’s not what he was doing. So I have no idea what I was doing, so the obligatory…

    Nothing like calling out a grammar nazi who was not being a grammar nazi. Have another drink dumbass.

    Thanks, I will.

  262. 262 laeagle said at 9:33 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    You had me at “have another drink”. I’m on it.

  263. 263 Tumtum said at 10:20 AM on March 1st, 2016:

    Usually a pet peeve of mine when dopes use the wrong word as well. Now I am the dope, awesome!

  264. 264 Media Mike said at 12:30 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    How about the Alex Smith deal? 4 years, but able to be cut out of it in year 3?

  265. 265 Tumtum said at 10:19 AM on March 1st, 2016:

    Mehhhh. I can live with it, if we draft a guy who needs time to be groomed. I do still think Bradford could end up being the franchise. The odds might even be 50-50, which is far better than I thought when we signed him. Think that is even a stretch.

  266. 266 Mr. Magee said at 12:52 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    You’re leery, actually 🙂

  267. 267 A Roy said at 6:10 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    He may be tired of the hole thing. 😉

  268. 268 Tumtum said at 10:18 AM on March 1st, 2016:

    Why thank you!

  269. 269 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:02 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Playërs hate being Tagged… I wonder if Roseman didn’t Tag SAM because he wanted to maintain Cap Flexibility, instead of tying up that 19mil tagging SAM already… Or if not Tagging him was a good will show of respect for SAM and his Agent showing we want to work out an extension without posturing and leveraging and the use of the Tag..
    Rosemans and the eagles approach to Bradford has been interesting, Open admission about how we want him, and he is basically plan A, yet neither side is leaking any counter Intel for posturing… You don’t hear Bradfords agent leaking rumors about other teams being interested in SAM, and you don’t see much posturing from the Eagles.,., kind of a weird dynamic, not too used to seeing
    Of course just because we haven’t tagged him, DOESNT Neccessarily mean we won’t tag him if talks breakdown at the last minute

  270. 270 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:18 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    I would think that his agent will play Hardball Til at least the 23rd hour right before the Market opens..
    His Agent will Know what offers await SAM before the market even opens, so bradford doesn’t have to reach the open market, his agent will know the market that awaits him and if our offer is better than what other teams are offering behind the scenes, than we could see an extension at the last minute right before the start of FA…. I don’t see Sams agent signing anything days before the market opens. They will play hardball Til the very end, unless the bradford camp is very dissapointed by the offers they are hearing from the rest of the league

  271. 271 Corry said at 1:00 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    So it’s a definite possibility of a probable unlikely maybe.

  272. 272 A_T_G said at 1:35 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Right. How do you finish typing that tweet, read it, and decide “Yep, I should definitely hit send on this baby. I’ll stick two hashtags on the end so more people see it.”?

  273. 273 Corry said at 1:47 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I know. I get they have to be a bit vague since both sides (front office, agents) use the press to leak info to gain any kind of leverage and they can’t go into specifics, but good grief.

  274. 274 ICDogg said at 3:34 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Really went out on a limb to predict an 8 day span in which a deal wouldn’t happen, and say “just a guess” in case he’s wrong

  275. 275 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:30 AM on February 28th, 2016:

    Gotta appreciate the great work Roseman has done so far being able to lock up key players to contracts. It also says a lot about our players that they are willing to sign these extensions to stay In philly, even tho a guy like Malcolm Jenkins is losing money doing this deal now instead of waiting Til the free agent safeties sigń their big new contracts… Gotta appreciate that Roseman and the players are working out extensions Independant of the rest of the league…. Roseman said that we may have extended more of our players the last few weeks than the rest of the League combined.. And that doesn’t happen without Roseman doing a great job, and the players truly wanting to remain EAGLES….
    You see banner on Twitter losing his mind over why agents are doing these deals now when they could Make more money waiting for new free agent contracts to increase their clients value… Appreciate playërs who care more about being Eagles than squeezing every dollar out of our Cap.. And it’s impressive that Roseman has the relationships in place with agents that allows him to get these deals done early when it’s in our best interest
    Roseman has real flaws, but he also does a great job in some key areas…. Hopefully he starts getting the draft evaluations right more consistently than he has in the past

  276. 276 ACViking said at 1:37 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Appreciate playërs who care more about being Eagles than squeezing every dollar out of our Cap.

    Sam Bradford?

  277. 277 Greg Richards said at 12:31 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Mike Garafolo

    9m9 minutes ago

    Eagles upped their offer to Sam Bradford, trying hard to get it done:

    Lukewarm on this myself. There are good arguments for keeping him and good arguments for letting him go so to my opinion of it will come down to price and the structure of the contract. If it happens. The language of the article seems like the info is coming from the Eagles’ side and sounds to me like what’d u leak when you expect the guy to sign elsewhere. Hey, we made a fair offer!

  278. 278 Media Mike said at 12:32 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Great link / BS reporting.

    If Garafolo doesn’t have hard numbers, I really don’t know what I’d think of the offer.

  279. 279 Mr. Magee said at 12:49 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    You could be right… Either way, I think Bradford waits till March 9 to see what the market looks like. But it does make me nervous to hear they’re pushing the offer to the upper end of his range…

  280. 280 Greg Richards said at 1:01 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Depends on what they think “his range” is. Okay, Sam, we really only think you’re worth a bag of chips but hey we’ll throw in a bottle of Yoo Hoo too.

  281. 281 A Roy said at 6:06 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I suspect they’re pushing the offer to the upper end of “their” range. His range is much higher. Let the market play out.

  282. 282 Nick C said at 1:24 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Leaking this definitely screams, “We tried, guys.”

  283. 283 The original AG said at 1:57 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    I really liked the 2nd article more though. It’s cool the next time I see Star Wars and listen for “Celek” and “Fletcher” in the language.

    As to Bradford, I’m intrigued what is the “top” end offer. If Cousins is being offered $15, I’d have to think that’s somewhere in Bradford’s territory.

  284. 284 Dave said at 2:27 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    “sounds to me like what’d u leak when you expect the guy to sign elsewhere. Hey, we made a fair offer!”

    I strongly disagree with that statement. Most fans that want Sam back generally seem to agree that you can’t back up the Brinks truck and give him a 6-year deal with huge cap ramifications down the road if Sam gets injured again or doesn’t reach his potential.

    Jeff Fisher said something that stuck out to me this week about Sam. He said something along the lines that he was happy to see him finish his first start with the Eagles because he and the Rams didn’t think he would be able to make it through the whole game.

    They are negotiating because they want him back., Unfortunately, his injury history makes a long-term deal hard to do without some sort of performance escalators in case he has another major injury and can’t fully recover. They most-likely leaked contract info because they are trying to speed the process up and get a deal done before free agency, not to pacify the fanbase.

  285. 285 Insomniac said at 3:44 PM on February 28th, 2016:


  286. 286 Mr. Magee said at 12:45 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    DeMarco Murray… Another one of Chip’s gifts that just keeps on giving. Love seeing the Kaep drama playing out in SF – “he’s staying, he’s going, that’s not what he told me,” blah, blah, blah… It’s all so Chip.

    Re OLBs, I think projecting Alonzo as a starter is a risky proposition… In fact, I don’t think he sticks with the team in 2016.

  287. 287 since1961 said at 1:16 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    It’s good to have a clairvoyant about injury recoveries on this board. What actually happened to him in week 3 this year? What is the timeline given your insight into others who have had the same issue? Do you agree with Andrews about the nature of the procedure?

  288. 288 Mr. Magee said at 7:02 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Did you watch any of the action last year ’61? Getting a little senile in your old age and perhaps a little slow on the uptake? Was it not clear that my comment was nothing more than speculation? Or maybe you’re just one of those many internet posters looking for an argument..?

  289. 289 SteveH said at 1:16 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    off topic but is anyone else seeing what Steph Curry is doing to the NBA? It’s frightening that he keeps getting better.

  290. 290 Joe Minx said at 1:18 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Complete astonishment. Never seen a better shooter in my life.

  291. 291 SteveH said at 1:20 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    They were looking at the numbers and astonishingly his efficiency goes up the more he’s used. That pretty much breaks logic.

  292. 292 Joe Minx said at 1:22 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Basically if he gets off a shot it’s going in. And there’s nowhere on the court you can defend him. Like, that’s usually hyperbole when people say a guy can shoot from anywhere. But he literally can shoot from absolutely any spot on the court & make it look easy. Even 32 feet away like last night.

  293. 293 SteveH said at 1:25 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    How do you guard him? Poor Andre Roberson on the game winner, he was lost. Do you crowd him and risk him blowing by you? Do you back off and give the 30+ foot attempt? Conventional logic says let him shoot the bomb but holy shit with Curry there’s just nowhere he can’t hit from.

    Really astonishing to see his rise to prominence. I never thought a guy with his body type would be the best in the NBA, I always assumed it would be huge guys like Durant and Lebron and Kobe.

  294. 294 phillychuck said at 4:09 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    The Morons on sirius mad dog radio were talking about the Oscar Robertson quote (they kept calling him “Oscar Robinson”) saying that Curry wouldn’t be able to score like this on old-time defenses, they’d just take him away and let the other guys try to beat you. What they miss, if they watch golden state, is that teams ARE trying to take him away and play physical with him. He just hits shake-and-bake step-back 3’s and shoots from 35 feet. You can’t scheme to take that away; no way. The defenders can’t stay with him.

  295. 295 SteveH said at 5:55 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    When I was your age…

  296. 296 Corry said at 1:49 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    And it doesn’t matter what kind of defense they run to contain him. He’s going to score and he’s going to sink 3s.

  297. 297 Greg Richards said at 2:05 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    If this was baseball and he kept hitting homers, I’d say he’s juicing. What type of pharmaceutical juice allows you to hit 3s at an insane rate?

  298. 298 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:10 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    That Del curry DNA Juice!

  299. 299 SteveH said at 3:22 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    It’s that pill from limitless.

  300. 300 D3FB said at 5:10 AM on February 29th, 2016:

    It’s the equivalent of a guy on pace for a 103 HR season. It’s friggin unreal.

  301. 301 Ray888 said at 2:19 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Missed opportunity Tommy: this could have been titled “DeMarco DeDrama” ( as opposed to say “DeMarco DeMovie” ).

  302. 302 nevadausa16 said at 2:23 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    5 scouts on 50 top players — compiled by GB’s excellent beat report Bob McGinn.

    Wonderlic scores pop up in a few reviews.

  303. 303 Insomniac said at 3:47 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    nice read.

  304. 304 Media Mike said at 4:37 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    McGinn does amazing work.

  305. 305 Insomniac said at 4:03 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    There’s still a month till the draft. I’m not very excited for this years draft for some reason.

  306. 306 RC5000 said at 4:32 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    It’s 2 months to the draft lol.

  307. 307 Insomniac said at 6:12 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Oh great that makes it even worse.

  308. 308 Media Mike said at 4:38 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Are all of the 40 times done for the d-linemen yet? I have a drug themed snide comment ready for Noah Spence, but I need to see if his time was good or bad before I make it.

  309. 309 The original AG said at 4:54 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    He ran a 4.8.

  310. 310 RC5000 said at 5:12 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    He ran very poorly .4.80

  311. 311 Media Mike said at 5:13 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Needed more X at the finish line.

  312. 312 RC5000 said at 5:27 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    DL Official 40 times sorted

    Charles Tapper 4.59
    Emmanuel Ogbah 4.63
    Kamalei Correa 4.69
    Shaq Lawson 4.7
    Matt Judon 4.73
    Dadi Nicolas 4.74
    Yannick Ngakoue 4.75
    Alex Mccalister 4.8
    Noah Spence 4.8
    Anthony Zettel 4.81
    James Cowser 4.82
    Shilique Calhoun 4.82
    Carl Nassib 4.84
    Joey Bosa 4.86
    Kevin Dodd 4.86
    Victor Ochi 4.86
    Bronson Kaufusi 4.87
    Dean Lowry 4.87
    Robert Nkemdiche 4.87
    Romeo Okwara 4.9
    Connor Wujciak 4.91
    Jason Fanaika 4.92
    Ron Thompson 4.92
    Javon Hargrave 4.93
    Jonathan Bullard 4.93
    Giorgio Newberry 4.94
    Quinton Jefferson 4.95
    Shawn Oakman 4.96
    Lawrence Thomas 4.98
    D.J. Pettway 4.99
    Willie Henry 5
    Ufomba Kamalu 5.01
    Hassan Ridgeway 5.02
    Joel Heath 5.02
    Chris Jones 5.03
    Maliek Collins 5.03
    Matt Ioannidis 5.03
    Sheldon Rankins 5.03
    Andrew Billings 5.05
    DeForest Buckner 5.05
    Branden Jackson 5.06
    Kenny Clark 5.06
    Sheldon Day 5.07
    Mehdi Abdesmad 5.1
    Jihad Ward 5.11
    Devaunte Sigler 5.15
    Ronald Blair 5.15
    Adolphus Washington 5.17
    Vincent Valentine 5.19
    A’Shawn Robinson 5.2
    Jarran Reed 5.21
    Sterling Bailey 5.23
    Austin Johnson 5.32
    Darius Latham 5.32
    D.J. Reader 5.33
    Vernon Butler 5.33
    Chris Mayes 5.34
    Adam Gotsis DNP
    Antwaun Woods DNP
    Drew Ott DNP
    Jimmy Bean DNP
    Luther Maddy DNP
    Nile Lawrence-Stample DNP

  313. 313 RC5000 said at 6:04 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    DL 3 cone drill times sorted:

    James Cowser 6.8
    Joey Bosa 6.89
    Shilique Calhoun 6.97
    Alex Mccalister 7.01
    Bronson Kaufusi 7.03
    Dadi Nicolas 7.04
    Jason Fanaika 7.06
    Shaq Lawson 7.16
    Noah Spence 7.21
    Victor Ochi 7.24
    Dean Lowry 7.26
    Emmanuel Ogbah 7.26
    Carl Nassib 7.27
    Jonathan Bullard 7.31
    Connor Wujciak 7.32
    Ufomba Kamalu 7.32
    Yannick Ngakoue 7.35
    Jihad Ward 7.38
    Romeo Okwara 7.38
    Branden Jackson 7.4
    Chris Jones 7.44
    Joel Heath 7.44
    Sheldon Day 7.44
    Sheldon Rankins 7.44
    Ron Thompson 7.46
    Sterling Bailey 7.46
    DeForest Buckner 7.51
    Giorgio Newberry 7.53
    Maliek Collins 7.53
    Shawn Oakman 7.53
    Mehdi Abdesmad 7.55
    Willie Henry 7.57
    Anthony Zettel 7.63
    Matt Judon 7.67
    D.J. Pettway 7.74
    Darius Latham 7.76
    Jarran Reed 7.77
    Matt Ioannidis 7.78
    A’Shawn Robinson 7.8
    Vernon Butler 7.82
    Austin Johnson 7.84
    D.J. Reader 7.9
    Devaunte Sigler 7.9
    Javon Hargrave 7.9
    Quinton Jefferson 7.95
    Ronald Blair 7.95
    Vincent Valentine 8.03
    Andrew Billings 8.05
    Adolphus Washington 8.06
    Hassan Ridgeway 8.28
    Adam Gotsis DNP
    Antwaun Woods DNP
    Charles Tapper DNP
    Chris Mayes DNP
    Drew Ott DNP
    Jimmy Bean DNP
    Kamalei Correa DNP
    Kenny Clark DNP
    Kevin Dodd DNP
    Lawrence Thomas DNP
    Luther Maddy DNP
    Nile Lawrence-Stample DNP
    Robert Nkemdiche DNP

  314. 314 RC5000 said at 6:14 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    LBs Official 40 times sorted:

    Dominique Alexander DNP
    Darron Lee 4.47
    Travis Feeney 4.5
    De’Vondre Campbell 4.58
    Deion Jones 4.59
    Leonard Floyd 4.6
    Montese Overton 4.61
    Stephen Weatherly 4.61
    Joshua Perry 4.68
    B J Goodson 4.69
    Devante Bond 4.7
    Blake Martinez 4.71
    Kyler Fackrell 4.72
    Nick Vigil 4.72
    Reggie Ragland 4.72
    Cory Littleton 4.73
    Nick Kwiatkoski 4.73
    Joe Schobert 4.76
    Beniquez Brown 4.77
    Terrance Smith 4.77
    Steve Longa 4.78
    Eric Striker 4.8
    Jared Norris 4.8
    Jordan Jenkins 4.8
    C.J. Johnson 4.81
    Tyler Matakevich 4.81
    Steven Daniels 4.86
    Kentrell Brothers 4.89
    Scooby Wright 4.9
    Josh Forrest 4.91
    Kris Frost 4.97
    Gionni Paul 5.05
    Cassanova Mckinzy DNP
    Curt Maggitt DNP
    Jaylon Smith DNP
    Myles Jack DNP
    Raphael Kirby DNP
    Su’a Cravens DNP

  315. 315 RC5000 said at 6:19 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Only 1/2 three cone drill times are up for LBs so if I remember I will look later and post them.

  316. 316 SteveH said at 6:33 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    It’s crazy that Okafor is the guy trying to carry the team as a rookie… I wonder if Embiid comes back and is the guy he’s advertised as, if maybe Okafor could be used as a bigtime trade piece.

  317. 317 ACViking said at 6:58 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Combine comparison . . .

    Carl Nassib (6’7″ 277 lbs) vs. Vinny Curry (6’3″ 266 lbs)

    * 40-yard:
    4.82 vs. 4.98

    *10-yard split:
    1.62 vs. 1.76

    * 20-yard sh:
    4.37 vs. 4.98

    * Broad Jump:
    9.06 vs. 9.02

    * Vertical:
    28.5 vs. 32.0

    * 3-cone:
    7.20 vs. 6.98

  318. 318 Fufina said at 7:24 PM on February 28th, 2016:

    Really good numbers for Nassib, since all his question marks were about his athleticism. the 28.5 vert is a head scratcher tho.