Riley Flew the Coop
Posted: February 8th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 251 Comments »The Eagles cut Riley Cooper today. Not exactly shocking news, but a transaction worth reporting.
Cooper wasn’t earning his contract and that made the cut pretty easy. Some people are going to talk about this as the Eagles trying to get rid of a Chip Kelly guy. I really don’t see it that way. Cooper was drafted by Howie Roseman and played for Andy Reid for 3 seasons. They liked his size and toughness.
Cooper’s breakout season and subsequent contract extension came on Kelly’s watch. I think the real reason he is seen as a Kelly guy is that Chip was so defensive about Cooper when the media would ask about his lack of production or any mistakes he might have made.
I don’t want to get too much into the whole race angle. I’ll just say this. Jason Avant and Michael Vick stood up in the locker room and spoke on Cooper’s behalf, asking other players to forgive him and to keep him around. If those two hadn’t done that, I don’t think Kelly would have tried to keep Cooper around. Anyway…that’s all water under the bridge at this point and I’ll be glad not to talk about Cooper or the incident.
He is now a part of Eagles WR lore, just like Na Brown, Michael Gasperson, Plaxico Burress (go ask Roob on Twitter if the Eagles should sign him) and Freddie Mitchell. How’s that for a trip down memory lane?
Now back to Earth.
The Eagles do have a young set of WRs in Jordan Matthews, Nelson Agholor and Josh Huff. Bottom of the roster players like Seyi Ajirotutu, Jonathan Krause and Freddie Martino will be fighting for spots, but none are guaranteed to return.
I’m interested to see if the Eagles go for a veteran or another young guy to add to the mix.
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The Saints cut OL Jahri Evans today, which led to this.
https://twitter.com/MalcolmJenkins/status/696832658454749184
Evans is from Philly. He was the Saints RG from 2006-2015, making 6 Pro Bowls. Evans will turn 33 this summer and isn’t the guy you sign to make your OL younger.
That said, if the Eagles do want a proven OG to help for a year or two while a young guy develops, Evans would make some sense.
I wouldn’t see this as a likely move, but it is kinda cool that Malcolm Jenkins is openly recruiting old teammates to come join him. That is an encouraging sign since Jenkins is in the final year of his deal and could be a target for an extension. Sounds like he wants to stay with the Eagles.
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For those who missed it: Eagles will not use franchise tag on QB Sam Bradford and they are expected to inquire about adding QB Nick Foles.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 8, 2016
Schefter is not backing down from his weekend report.
I’ll write more at length about the franchise tag in another post. That’s a complex discussion.
As for Foles, notice the comment is that the Eagles will inquire about him. The Eagles clearly aren’t going to give up much to get him (a conditional pick or maybe some butterscotch pudding that no one in the NovaCare ate at lunch). The key with him is the contract. The Rams don’t want to pay Foles, but have to decide if they can make that work or if they have to just suck it up and keep him around a year as an overpaid backup.
I don’t have a problem with him as a band-aid QB. Someone has to start for the Eagles in 2016. I’d love to have Sam Bradford back, but not if he wants huge money. Having Foles start half the season until a rookie is ready to take over wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. He is a good leader and locker room guy. If you’re going to have a short term veteran starter, that’s the kind of guy you want.
Don’t get too fired up about any of this. Someone is feeding Schefter a nugget. Might be the Eagles. Might be the Rams. Might be an agent. We’ll know more in a couple of weeks.
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Finallllllllyyyyy
I hope Coop stays away from the barber shop and starts a Redneck Hair Band.
Or how about this. I never knew there was something called “bro country”, and I wish I didn’t know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbxuXq_981s
I want the Eagles to franchise Bradford and then trade him for a late first or early second round pick. The way I see it Denver, Houston, Cleveland and San Francisco each need a QB. Would Denver or Houston give up their first round pick and a fifth or sixth for Bradford? Would Cleveland or San Fran give up an early second round pick and a fifth or a sixth rounder for Bradford? I’m willing to franchise Bradford and find out.
I want a super model girlfriend. I don’t see either happening.
This whole discussion is like a guy throwing his car up on craigslist for $3k above blue book. You’re not getting the asking price.
Thank you. If you think he’s not worth $20M/year to you, why would you think he’s worth $20M/year plus an extremely valuable draft pick to someone else? And I’m someone who thinks he can be worth $20M, but the injury history is certainly something you have to factor in, and once you do, no one’s paying that kind of haul for him. Maybe you can get a conditional 5th after you tag him, but that’s about it (and there’s a good chance that no one wants him at the tag price).
Sounds good, but what if they franchise him, he signs it, and then nobody wants him? You have to find a team willing to pay him enough on a new deal to pass up playing for $20 million for one year.
I think we all want that.
Treadwell at 13???
Yes please!! But QB… *sad face.
I replied to you about Treadwell a couple days ago and I said I didn’t think he would be worth 13. I watched some more of him and am beginning to change my mind. The only real “weakness” I see is the lack of diversity/crispness on routes. Part of my hesitation is simply not watching enough other players yet so I don’t have a good feel for what else is out there. Another part is that even though you don’t pick for need, at #13 there are going to be quite a few good players on the board and is another pick at WR wise considering all the resources poured into it as of late?
Kenny Lawler in the 3rd. We need WRs that drop the ball occasionally so the rest don’t look that bad.
Yeah…but can you afford to pass on a guy who down the road may turn into the A minus version of Dez Bryant??…and I’ve watched all the top 3 QB prospects. They engender zero confidence. D line is pretty deep in this draft..but we’really pretty stocked there.I say if you have a chance to draft the best WR in the draft you do it.
We aren’t stacked at DL… It’s a need for us
Agreed. We have almost no depth.
I assume we are Sacraficing a quality starter in Thornton, so that we pay to keep Logan and Cox Longterm….so thornton is gone… I assume Taylor Hart is gone to a 3-4 team like the steelers or Niners.. I assume we won’t be bringing back a 47year old Duck (Bair) now that Chip is gone..
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This leaves us with Logan, Cox as the starter and Beau as our Only Bench player… beau can backüp Logan but we can’t go into the season with only 3 DTs, And we can’t go into the season assuming some Practice squad player can be trusted enough to pencil in for the 53 man roster… So at the very Least, the Eagles will have to add a backüp 3Tec to play behind Cox. Logan and Cox will cost enough, so this player needs to be a kid we draft on a rookie contract… we want at least two waves of DT’s we can rotate in….our new DC believes in generating pass rush with the front 4 and not blitzing much, so We can never complain about adding more DL talent
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There are positions That I view as bigger needs, but if the Eagles draft a DT in round 1 because he is the best player available, I see no reason to complain…. Hopefuly there will be a higher rated Guards or safeties available at #13, but if the BPA is a DT like A-shawn Robinson or even a LB like Myles Jack, I hope we go with the BPA every time..
eh build inside out
Our deal line is pretty stocked and the top 2 tackles will be gone. No need to reach for a lineman…….we already leaned our lesson with the fireman
No, DL is actually a significant Need for us…
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Assuming we lose Thornton, we have Cox and Bennie starting. Even if we go wjth Beau as Bennies backüp, we still have a legit Need at back up 3tec, interior pass rusher to pair with Beau allen in the second unit since Taylor Hart and Brandon Bair Probably won’t be on our roster next year..
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I see No way that we come out of this draft without having drafted a Defensive lineman.. Not for nothing, but I wouldn’t mind our new DC identify a DL prospect that he thinks can be special….
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Now we have bigger NEEDS than DL, but it is an important need that has to be addressed, and when it comes to the Trenches, I will NEVER complain about adding more top talemt at OL and DL.. Win the trenches, and you will win more games than we lose…
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If the BPA in round 1 is a DL, I hope we draft him….but ideally, the BPA will be an Offensive Lineman, preferable a guy who can play RG and RT.. But I wouldn’t Boo the drafting of a DL in round 1… Id love to see our DC get to pick a DL in this draft
Maybe we’ll be lucky, and a Shawn Andrews that isn’t a head case is available.
graham or vinny can move to the inside on passing downs
I can promise you the Eagles won’t be only carrying 3 DT’s on the roster
“Some people are going to talk about this as the Eagles trying to get rid of a Chip Kelly guy. I really don’t see it that way. Cooper was drafted by Howie Roseman and played for Andy Reid for 3 seasons”
Bingo!!! He was a howie guy! Howie loves florida guys.
I’d say he likes SEC guys in general.
Yeah the pick wasn’t terrible, it was the contract extension that sucked.
Id be fine with it if they brought Foles back.
I dont want to see sanchez start another game, ever!!
I agree, but they better have a couple of Nick Foles type guys ready to go because our interior o-line will probably still be an issue and Foles gets hurt.
But Bradford guys don’t… with our OL.
well we have to upgrade the OGs, i think thats clear.
“Some people are going to talk about this as the Eagles trying to get rid of a Chip Kelly guy.” I see it as the Eagles simply letting go of a whiny, pass dropping (remember San Fran?), lack of effort, formerly long haired, bushwhacking, sandbagging, not worth his contract, cocky, bottom of the barrel, lowest graded WR. Racial slur aside, Riley Pooper had his days marked for a long time and I’m glad the bell finally tolled.
Chip ruined him… Cooper could be a great #4 WR and ST ace for us,but chip ruined it making Coop think he is some starting WR who deserves big money, playing time, and is above playing ST..
Pederson obviously has a problem with rednecks . . .
They waited till black history month on purpose….
Indeed. Since Riley Cooper is white, and he is history, it should now be white history month.
Ajirotutu is a FA.
I’ll adjust that in future posts. Thought he was under contract.
Thought that was something they wore at the pro bowl.
…can’t edit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1C5UBXxyVQ
Not to hype guys up but I like this guy. Too bad he has the occasional focus drops.
Off topic but hell it’s only Riley Cooper. How are people feeling about the Sixers now? It’s really promising what they’re doing with Okafor and Noel now, could be they can coexist after all.
It would be funny if after all the shit the Sixers have taken for the rebuild that they end up being a powerhouse on the back of their draft picks.
Ghost Bear… Go Flyers!
They desperately need Morin to take a couple of steps forward in development, because he’s exactly what they’re missing right now. Saturday’s game was a perfect example – they just don’t have a dman who can consistently impose his will in the defensive zone. Morin can be that guy, but the last time I saw him (December) he was nowhere near ready with his ability to read and position defensively. I’ll see the Phantoms tomorrow night and see if he’s improved any.
I was optimistic about Ghost last year, but he’s playing even better than I expected. His positioning is much better than I expected. He will never be great on the boards due to his size, but he’s not a complete liability right now, and I expect he’ll learn some tricks and be good enough that pairing him with a guy like Morin (if he reaches at least 3/4 of his ceiling) will be enough to cover up his occasional lapses there.
A solid draft this year (if things fall right, a right handed RW would be perfect in the first, but I don’t think they’ll force it) and that team is going to be in great shape.
they’ll be fine as long as grandpa jerry doesn’t fuck it up. coming away with a top 2 pick is a pretty big inflection point of the rebuild tho.
I assume you are talking about playing Okafor as a PF. I agree. It should be interesting to watch and see if it can work. It seems to me that having Noel behind him at the rim should make it possible if he can get used to playing in space.
They’re running a little game where Okafor is the 4 on offense and the 5 on defense, and Noel goes 5 on offense and 4 on defense. Kind of plays to each guys strengths and it’s worked really well in tandem since they’ve tried it out.
I’m just terrified about getting pick 1 or 2. I just feel like it will be such a huge letdown, they have not had lottery ball luck last 2 years and I feel like if they don’t again in year 3 it will be so hard to take.
So I like to see progress here and there, but really I just want L’s to increase their odds. I know that you can win the lottery even if we pass the Lakers but I can’t root for that.
I don’t want the #1 pick, I have no interest in SIMMONS… INGRAM or Bust! Although it could end up being a blessing in disguise if we fall to #3 and draft Dragan Bender, even if he is another 7 footer and have to wait two years for him to come to the USA…. BPA is always the best move, we can always trade a young big for some significant value
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As long as we end up with INGRAM or Bender, this year will have been worth it
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I think the worrying about Jah and Nerlens coexisting is moronic… Neither player has as ever played with anyone like noel and Okafor, it was ALWAYS going to take more than a half a season for Jah and Noel to learn to coexist…. Just like it was always going to take Jah more than half a season to make the defensive improvements we need him to make, prior to this year, Jah spent the majority of his basketball life playing in a zone defense..
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Jah and Nerlens will grow to coexist really well, because we can count on Jah growing into a very efficient mid range shooter which is needed to make the spacing work on offense… NERLENS and Jah are also very Talented passing Bigmen, just watch next year when they start to form a quality High low two man game of interior passing between the two bigs…. Heck, we are already seeing NERLENS handle the ball at the top of the key, and throw some beautiful post entry passes to Jah, who then delivers the bucket
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NERLENS and Jah will grow into a really nice interior tower tandem, it just takes much longer than fans who want to make a judgment realize..
You’re about as good at evaluating basketball players as you are quarterbacks.
Ingram will be very good, but so will Simmons.
And Okafor will be shipped out within a year.
Lol… This is how I make my living son, why would I remotely care about your AMATUER opinion? Lol stick to football boy…. You are barking up the wrong tree LOL I won’t be debating basketball, but you are welcome to read my posts. Good day…
Lol thanks for the laugh..
If they don’t become a powerhouse, that will be the worst thing ever after taking a shit on their fans and the league for years.
Sorry Tommy, but Jordan Matthews, Nelson Agholor and Josh Huff as our top 3 receivers is just not good enough in this league where throwing the ball down the field is all the rage. Huff may not be anything more than what we have seen thus far. Nelson has to take huge steps which none of us can count on and although I think Jordan is decent I would ask you or anyone reading this to name another team or teams where Jordan would be the legit #1 WR on that team. I think Jordan is a solid #2. This team needs to find a #1 receiver or at least someone who can scare a team on a deep route with true speed. I am not sure that guy is out there for us to get in Free Agency. Alshon Jeffery? I don’t think the team has the money to sign him when we need upgrades on O-line and D line depth with whatever free agency funds we have available after probable Cox Extension. I am just not excited about our WR core. Geez- If we had just re-signed Maclin we would have been in good shape. 1 Million more per year could have kept Maclin in town, but stingy Chip would not give in. With QB and O-line as top priorities I fear we will not be able to address the WR group adequately in this offseason.
All the rage seems to be defense… no offense.
I’m with you!
An awesome receiving core won the Superbowl! YOU ROCK!
In the wake of the super bowl and the Broncos winning by riding their stellar defense I hear you. If we can put together a top 5 defense that can control the line of scrimmage and wreak havoc on opposing QB’s we might be able to get away without having a legit #1 WR. Still, on offense , the league has moved towards a vertical passing game with dynamic game changing receivers . I just do not think we have anyone in our WR core that scares teams even a little bit. Adding someone that could threaten teams deep would be a huge help to this WR group.
Agreed. We need team attitude. TO had the attitude, yet he was not the team. Hope the passion is circulated as the team we moves forward.
Yeah, top 5 all-time.
PS- you write “you rock”. What would prompt you to say something immature like that? I am just giving my opinion. I welcome intelligent conversation and debate, but to attack me with your sarcasm is not warranted.
YOU SUCK!
Why would I write “you rock”? It seems… Just to see how far you would pull up your panties. Lighten up Francis!
Nice Stripes reference.
Don’t be a jerk.
Over his nine years, Calvin Johnson was in only two playoff games, only one of which they won.
A “legit #1 WR” is the least of our worries right now.
I agree that this team has bigger needs and as I mentioned I do not think we are in a position to address the WR position this offseason. We will, at some point, need to have a WR who could threaten a team over the top. This would open up the middle for our TE and slot receivers and keep teams from stacking the box vs. our running game. I just do not think our current group of receivers are good enough and I hope we ultimately get better at the position. Re: Calvin Johnson- Detroit was awful on defense , special teams and a poor running game for most of Calvin Johnson’s career. He was one great player on a team that was never really talented enough across the board to compete for a title. That’s my opinion anyway. WR is certainly not a top priority, but its definitely an area we need to get more production out of if we expect to contend at some point.
I highly doubt the Eagles enter next season with Jordan, Huff, Nelson, Martino and Krause as our WR’s..
Right, because they’re going to re-sign Rasheed Bailey.
…also, how many super bowls did Belicheat win with a legit #1 WR?
Aaron Rodgers has only won one Superbowl. Having the best QB in the league in overrated. (sarcastic) 🙂
I wouldn’t say ‘least of their worries’ but yeah it is down several ticks on the list.
They do need to upgrade this pedestrian group and have to hope Agholor plays better.
Agholor is the guy, he just need good coaching (thanks god Bicknell is gone).
I agree that we need to see Agholor with a WR coach better than fake tough guy Bicknell.
I hear you on the need for talent at WR, but I’ve seen this team win 11 games with Torrance Small and Charles Johnson and 12 with Stinkston and Trash.
No need to panic, we’re not going to the Superbowl next year. Agholor needs to step up now in his 2nd season; the rest of them are what they are.
hands of stone
“Nelson has to take huge steps which none of us can count on and although
I think Jordan is decent I would ask you or anyone reading this to name
another team or teams where Jordan would be the legit #1 WR on that
team.”
Browns
Patriots
Vikings
Maybe Chargers, depending on how Perriman works out.
You said team or teams, which means I could have cited just one. I gave you four.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Riley Cooper the second worst WR in the league in 2015, only beating out Nelson Agholor?
Fucking pathetic.
No he wasnt, by definition there must be a more useless WR who didnt play enough or at all
Actually, not playing would have been better.
By DVOA, he had -7 or so and about the 72nd ranked in production, if he had enough passes to qualify. Here are some other WR with similar production: J. Landry, MIA; D. Thomas, DEN; TY Hilton, IND; A. Boldin, SF. Lots of no-names too, of course.
Matthews at #41 was our highest ranked WR, and at DVOA -1.8 is still considered a net negative to our team’s chances of winning. Huff actually did some good things, although is not ranked because of # of targets. Keep in mind he was about the most terrrible WR in the league last year because of the turnovers. Agholor had -21 DVOA.
WR DVOA tends to fluctuate and I don’t know if it’s very predictive at all. But it does show what they actually did.
21 catches in 16 games…” Are you not entertained?”
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000624732/article/ranking-top-50-prospects-for-2016-nfl-draft
Noticeable things. Jeremiah has
Coleman over Treadwell
Wentz over Goff
Apple over Alexander
Nkemdiche over Rankins over Billings
We’ll always have the 2013 offseason
http://i.imgur.com/KECUBrr.jpg
Seriously though, they should have cut Cooper after the racism incident. This may not be a “get rid of a Chip Kelly guy” thing, but I think getting rid of the shadow he cast over the franchise is part of getting a fresh start.
“A racist, a preacher, and a murderer walk in to a bar”…
Riley Cooper was terrible and overpaid. But I think that incident was completely overblown. He said a word that is probably used commonly in the locker room.
I watched 5 seasons of the Wire in 2 weeks and it took some effort from me to not say “motherfucker”, “shit”, and “nigger” in normal conversations.
He said the word “nigger”, while angry and drunk, and not even targeted towards black people.
Is Riley Cooper a dyed in the wool klan member? No.
Does that mean his use of word isn’t that big of a deal? That the whole thing was a bunch of mamsy pamsy PC bullcrap?
http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/05/09/635667309920977566824827451_don't%20just%20dont.gif
He said it while threatening violence against black people. I don’t think it was overblown at all.
He was harassing workers who were probably getting paid close to minimum wage by throwing a tantrum because he wasn’t getting special treatment for his wealth and fame.
It kind of looks like Tebow is trying to peg R’lyeh in the back of the head.
I’ll buy that cutting Cooper wasn’t about Chip or the racist incident, but cutting him so early and on his own day in terms of news, absolutely has meaning.
I think it just means it was a blindingly obvious move to make. Sometimes you wait because you need to see who shakes loose from other teams, or because you might decide to restructure, or you might not need to make the cut if you can make savings elsewhere.
Wasn’t the case with Riley. There were no circumstances under which he’d be back. Because stinky.
This was the first day they could cut players.
I think the only meaning we can derive from this is they knew for sure they wanted his contract off the books (and there was no trade interest).
Always on your game…
All it tells me is our Cap situation was healthy enough to be able to cut him now, as opposed to the Browns who are waiting for March to officially cut Manziel… No big deal… I do like that the Eagles didn’t make everything about Money, and cut him now instead of waiting TIL June….. Nice to finally get Coop’s stench off our team, wash away that dirty cloud hanging over our head since 2013..
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I hope Roseman had enough sense of humor to call the Niners and offer them Coop in a trade
For shame, Tommy. How dare you mention Gasperson and leave Eagle stalwart Bill Sampy off that list!
Let’s not forget Jeremy Bloom! Lol!
Sign Jahri Evans and Evan Mathis to buy some time on the offensive line.
or….just get the rookies feet wet now, if that’s the path they choose. not like this is our super bowl year. throw ’em in there
on the other hand, we could sign a real FA like Jeff Allen and create less worries on draft weekend
I could see a case for signing one or the other, but not both…
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Going to have to draft 1 if not 2 OL THIS YEAR…. Instead of penciling both into start immediately, I could see value in starting Jhari Evans or Mathis, while we łet the two Guards we draft compete for the other starting Guard spot…
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Id rather have mathis or Evans than a 31 year old Bearded Barbie doll
Pederson is clearly not serious about running the football. How are we supposed to get the ground game going without the best run blocking receiver in the league?
On a serious note, I think everyone saw this coming, even Truck Nuts. He was performing so far under his contract that he was likely gone regardless of the front office/coaching change.
[…] Riley Flew the Coop – Iggles BlitzThe Eagles cut Riley Cooper today. Not exactly shocking news, but a transaction worth reporting. Cooper wasn’t earning his contract and that made the cut pretty easy. Some people are going to talk about this as the Eagles trying to get rid of a Chip Kelly guy. I really don’t see it that way. Cooper was drafted by Howie Roseman and played for Andy Reid for 3 seasons. They liked his size and toughness. Cooper’s breakout season and subsequent contract extension came on Kelly’s watch. I think the real reason he is seen as a Kelly guy is that Chip was so defensive about Cooper when the media would ask about his lack of production or any mistakes he might have made. […]
>50 million guaranteed on Cox deal per ESP. He argues if its worth it. IMO, there arent too many successful teams that have spent that much on DT. Buuuut, I think you just need to sign your elite players, no matter what position they play. And when they can rush the QB, they’re going to get paid.
it’s a tough one but if there’s a guy you spend on it’s him
Money well spent as far as I’m concerned
Been saying for a couple of years that a 1-gap team was going to break the bank for him. Kinda glad it’s going to be the Eagles. He’s a playmaker.
I really wish we could get info on the Cox situatuon from ANYONE other than ESP…
Unless we plan on gifting a roster spot to Krause or Martino. We need to add two WR, a veteran and a kid in tge draft who can at least contribute right away on ST..
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On offense, draft two OL, Draft a WR, maybe sigń a stop gap Guard (Evans/Mathis unless we can sigń a starting Guard in his prime)… This will leave us 6 picks to spend on the Defense that needs to add talemt at every level.
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1) Łet SChwartz pick a DT in the draft (3technique to line up next to Beau on the second line
2) BIG NEED at LB… Take a SAM/MIKE Hybrid tbis year, and a Safety/WIL hybrid next year
3) young Safety
4) young Corner if we plan on axing Maxwells contract next year
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Im hoping we have a BIGTIME draft allowing us to fix this roster without having to overpay in free agency….. If We draft well, we can be quiet in free agency maybe sigń a veteran Guard as a band aid, and a veteran #4 WR
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It seems more likely that Bradford is going to walk. If that happens a QB is likely at 13. We will not be able to address another need until tge 3rd round.
Rishard Matthews from Miami looks like a guy we coule get on the cheap that may not have reached his sealing.
At SLB it looks like Bruce Carter and Emmanuel Lamur will be available. The could compete with Kiko for the SLB spot.
It really is a shame that we are locked into Maxwell. There are so many goid guys that ciuld be abailable this year. I’d almost considered signing a guy like janoris jenking or trumaine johnson an benching maxwrll this year
I don’t think anyone has a fraction of the info Neccessary to be able to say What the Eagles Are “likely” to do About Bradford , just a bunch of silly rumors, shit being thrown against the wall, or agenda based counter Intel leaked, comtract posturing..
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Yes, please we more of this dissention… For us to allow a commodity, even though statistically he may be a middling one, that just happens to be a middling one at the most important position on the field, a position where more than half of the teams are looking to upgrade. The FO would be comfirmed an absolute joke, if we were to let him walk with no compensation…. An NO! the scant possibility of a comp pick at the end of the the third round is not just compensation.
The Eagles won’t be getting compensatory picks for Bradford because they will be active in FA. But at this point it’s more likely that Bradford is released than it is that he will realize his value is more similar to Nick Foles than Tom Brady.
Doubt the Eagles will be aggressive in FA…. We been burned too many times going down the FA path…. I expect a quiet free agency for the Eagles, maybe sigń one starter, and a backüp, but nothing major..
Give me the local boy Jahari Evans on a 2 year cheap deal to play RG and grab Jeff Allen to play LG and I’m done with free agency besides a couple of bottom of the roster guys.
I could see them sigń 1 Guard, but not 2… We don’t just NEED Guards, we also NEED to get younger at OL….I could see us sigń 1 guard in FA, while still drafting another OL or two in April
I was just strictly referring to free agency. Grabbing those 2 guards still should not stop them from drafting some o-lineman to groom.
I predict that Howie’s ability to scour the FA market and come up with a diamond in the rough will pay off for the team.
There are young veterans who are worth legit contracts like Schwartz and older guys who still have some tread left like Evans and Allen… and then there may be some gems waiting to be polished and used by the new coaching staff. This team isn’t strong enough as is to just go into the draft without being active in FA.
I never said that I expect Roseman to completely sit out of free agency. You only gets a few chances per year to upgrade our roster, it would be incredibly stupid to sit out of free agency completely and waste the opportunity To upgrade the roster…..
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We will see a few additions, Im just expecting cloae to 2 or 3 Free agents instead of like 7 or 8 we saw last time there was a coaching change that came with new schemes (2013 free agency)
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It would be great if one of the guys we pay to be a cheap backüp, end up being a,hidden Gen who ends up being a quality starter like Evan Mathis. We have some Veteran pro coaches, so Hopefully they can help Roseman identify some Gems the way Mudd helped us find KELCE and Mathis, but can’t go into free agency assuming we can give someone backüp chump change to become a pro bowl starter for us..l Im expecting something like this in Free agency:
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1) a Guard… This player can range anywhere from a quality Long term starter coming off his rookie contract to an older veteran Band Aid like Jahari Evans or Mathis, who start for a year or two until the rookie earns that starting role
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2) A DB.. This can range anywhere from a Longterm starting Safety like George ILoka or Tashuan Gipson to a depth additipn at cornerback similar to Nolan arrow coming Off his rookie contract in 2014 and Davon House last year. This CB could just be a backüp, who can play Nickel or Dime role for us, or he can end up being someone like Nolan who eventually grows into a starter and ends up replacing Maxwell in 2017…. I think a DB will definitely be signed, just not sure it will be a top notch starting caliber addition..
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3) a #4 or #5 WR…. Veteran Backup, who also has to be a Key ST contributor.. Sort of the next Brad Smith/Ajiritutu type
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I’ll be pretty surprised to see them sigń more than 2 or 3 FA on the open market…. The Key to our success with be the Draft… We have to really hit this draft out of the park.. If we can just put together two B+/A- type drafts in a row, we will put ourselves in position to compete with the Top Teams..
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I think our roster will prove to be better than the poor impression we got after this past season… I see more than a handful of players who will prove to be better than what we saw last year..
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Can’t expect it to happen, but boy would it be Huge If this ends up being Rosemans masterpiece draft… So far, I would think Howies best draft was either 2012 (Cox, Kendricks, Curry. FOles, Boykin) or 2013 (Lane, Ertz, Logan)…
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Im thinking we end up seeig a better team next year than Eagle fans are expecting, and the division will be contested between Eagles and Cowboys… Skins wont be good ENOUGh to be the first NFCeast team to win the division two years in a row since we did it years ago..
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Hit on 2 or 3 free agents, hit on like 4 of 9 draft picks, And we should be in positon to compete for the division this year
I didnt say “likely”. I said “more likley”. I dont know how anyone can look at this situation and not feel less optumistic now than at the end of the season that a deal will get done. Simply based on the words that come from the mouths of Howie, Doug, and Sam they all seem to be luke warm on the idea of Sam returning. I think both parties would like Sam back in Philly at a fair price. This will come down to how far apart they are on what they consider a fair price. As more time passes and we continue to hear nothing about progress on a contract it becomes more likely nothing gets done.
I dont claim to know what will happen, but based on the information provided fo the public I’d put money on Sam playing elsewhere next year.
Actually, they all sound exactly how they should sound entering an expensive negotiation with Both parties playing their cards close to the vest, and being careful not to say anything that will add an extra speck of leverage to the other side
Curious to see what Mario Williams next contract looks like…
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Hopefully the Giants and Cowboys can’t afford to sign him especially if being scape goated for the bad bills defense that underwhelmed this year puts a chip on his shoulder.
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Cowboys and Giants need edge rushers in a bad way…, hopefully Mario stays in the AFC
Think he goes to a contender… I have a feeling he could go do a Patriot 1 year get me a ring special, maybe Seattle or Carolina would make a lot of sense as well. In fact him replacing Jared Allen’s $8.5mil would make a LOT of sense for the panthers.
The same thing crossed my Mind… Although he would Probably have to sacarfice and leave money on the table to become a patriot
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Really weird to see a bills defense with so much talent, underperform the way it did under Rex
Maybe nfce was just that good.
He’s 31. I think it starts at $10 million, unless he decides to sign with a contender on a cheap deal. Jared Allen signed a 4 year/$32 million deal with $16 million guaranteed. That was at the age of 32 and after two disappointing seasons with Chicago.
I may be in the minority that believes we should wait on the Cox extension at this time. We have two more years (with the FT next year) on a contract with Fletch. Judging by the numbers being assumed, it is not that most team-friendly. But we have all the leverage at this point with two years left and Cox doesn’t seem willing to give any discount. The AAV of his deal is expected around 15-18M. Those are QB numbers. Believe me, I know what he does for our defense. But we are making excuses over money for not bringing Bradford back, but willing to give that same money to a DT two years out of Free Agency. I don’t see him playing his way so far out of this 100+M contract that it ends up burning us doing an extension next year.
Fletcher Cox is the best player on this team.
Sam Bradford is mediocre on a good day.
Fletch has proven his worth, Sam is still a project.
“Sam Bradford is mediocre on a good day.”
I love statements like this.
There may be some merit to that, but even if he doesn’t outperform his expected contract, you still run the risk of having to outbid another team significantly when he becomes a UFA because now he hates how you dealt with him. There’s always risk in these things (contracts about long term relations, rather than one-off sales), and it’s better to negotiate in good faith rather than play brinksmanship; you’re setting the tone through your own actions.
never put off till tomorrow the Cox you can extend today
I think Howie is expecting a significant jump in the cap and probably wants to get him under contract before the inflated contracts kick in
Bingo
Fletcher Cox is one of the best players in the NFL. You pay him like he’s one of the best players in the NFL.
Strongly disagree… There is this saying that “the best contracts are the ones done yesterday”
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Fletcher Cox is easily the best player on the Eagles, and one of the best players in the NFL, that has been extremely durable, is a class act, high cHarechtet, team first guy that will even do the dirty work if you need him to…
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playërs like Fletchsr Cox don’t typivally chamge teams…. If Alberty Haysworth DIDNT have a shitty Charechter, if Suh wasn’t a scumbag, crappy teammate, those elite DT’s would have never changed teams…
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Elite NFL player, Durable as it gets, selfless, team first, high charechter playërs who is adored by his teammates.. You don’t let a player like Cox get away.
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Lol are we now going to punish kids we draft for becoming too good?
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You break theighe bank open for a stud like cox, and while It will sound like a lot of money, we would be giving that money to a kid that wiill prove to be worth every last penny
“Cox extension”
Dang comment spam. I don’t need you stinkin’ pills!
Fletcher causing a commotion on twitter. Many think it’s to do with ESP once again saying a deal is close.
fletcher cox
@fcoxx_91
Can the reporters please stop the nonsense nothing is true to what they are reporting … SAD
If you say enough rumors eventually something will come true. At the least it gets your name out there. I call it the “Sal Pal approach”
I could write my own stories right now based on speculation and confirm them with sources close to the team or player’s camp.
“Fletcher Cox demanding contract similar to what Suh received”
“Sam Bradford wants to go to Houston to finally be on a playoff team and work with Bill O’Brien”
“Rams interested in bringing back Bradford. They need a franchise QB to start off their new franchise location and have confidence in him staying healthy.”
“Eagles plan on parting ways with DeMeco Ryans”
“Eagles looking at OTs in the draft to replace Peters”
“Carson Wentz is the #1 prospect on the Eagles draft board”
“Connor Barwin requesting trade, not pleased with new 4-3 system”
“Eagles are not planning on bringing back Nolan Carroll or Walter Thurmond”
“eagles may be willing to trade up for jalen ramsey – is this the end for Malcolm Jenkins?”
“Pederson’s Sneeze Lands on Picture of Jason Peters – Proof of an OL Rebuild?”
Yeah that was definitely a shot at elliot Hack Parker… But Berman Talked to Howie and confirmed that the two sides are talking, and both sides are interested in getting something done… Even if it’s not as,far ahead as elliot the Joke Parker would have us believe
If I were ESP & Fletcher Cox was getting angry at me, I’d strongly consider STFUing.
I sure hope this interest in Foles is just a negotiating ploy by the front office to Bradford’s agent. It actually frightens me how the name Nick Foles just sucks the interest in this team right out of me.
IF the team brought in Foles, they would draft a young QB as well. Just focus on that he will be starting in 6-12 games time in the season, and watch the defense try and win games for the team.
Not according to the Lombardo. Foles would be brought in to be the man.
https://twitter.com/JonnyPage9/status/696806474358595585
https://twitter.com/MattLombardo975/status/696806659293896705
My understanding is that it’s a gut check for Bradford and Condon saying that Sam’s value is roughly equivalent to Foles.
#vomit
“If I’m Foles, I want no part of that….everybody is making seem like it’s his dream…”.
posted above by eagleyankfan
Bringing Foles back is like getting back with an old girl(or boy)friend. When you’re sitting home alone, it’s a good idea. Having the person there — well, you can’t get rid of him/her. As a big Foles supporter when he was here, I don’t want him back.
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I wonder if Foles is sitting somewhere on the edge of his seat saying “gee, I hope they call me in so I can lead a rebuilding team for 1/2 or 1 year and teach my apprentice how to take my job. If I’m Foles, I want no part of that….everybody is making seem like it’s his dream…
I don’t really think it’s realistic enough to warrant all this discussion…
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I wouldn’t hate seeing the Rainmaker back in Philly, but I don’t really expect it to happen
exactly. Now that the slow period of season is here ….
Bradford is the QB of the Phiadelphia Eagles… The rest of the crap is just Noise..
Mark Sanchez has the 8th highest cap hit on the team? oh No, he GOTS To GO!!!
cutting Sanchez saves us 3.5…. If we can find someone to trade for him (cough Cough San Fran Cough Cough) we would save 4.5…
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We can save another 3.5 by cutting Mufasa
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That’s 7mil we can spend on somone more deserving….
Something tells me that Ryans will be back on a reworked deal. Its a complete hunch but I feel this team values him overlooking the younger LBs on the roster. Also wont be bad if they add another rookie LB to have Ryans around for one more year. Sanchez can go kick rocks immediately.
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There are still many ways the Eagles can free up money. Extending my boy Jenk should be near the top of Howie’s list. Extend him and lower his cap figure and boom there’s more savings right there. I will say this again as I have said before, I think any deal that gets signed from here on out will all hinge on the Cox deal and what this coaching staff and FO think about Bradford.
Extending Jenk should def be a priority we don’t hear much about these days
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Not sure about Ryan, saw a big drop off in ability out of him last year, and at this age he isnt a great fit as a backup in a 4-3 since he can only play the MIKE role, and as a backup, he can’t play in 3rd down subpackages, and he can’t contribute to our Special teams…. So im struggling to see a scenario where we keep Mufasa, but I have a ton of love and respect for that man, and will never complain about Him being on this roster…. Heck, he should transition to assistant LB coach.
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I wouldn’t bet on Mufasa being here next year, but I can live with keeping hiim…. But with his on field ability suffering a major drop off, not being a versatile backüp, not being able to be a 3rd down subpackage LB, not playing Special teams, makes me lean towards his eagle career coming to an end…
Oh I definitely agree about the athletic ability not really being there anymore. He can still be a force against the run and to occasionally have a LB see the field why not it be Ryans. Like I said that all hinges on a very very friendly team reworked deal. If he wont go for that then he can go.
I’ll support whatever they decide to do about Mufasa.. I would support getting rid of him because I think it’s whats best for the Eagles, but my irrational love and admiration for Mufasa would also make me support keeping him..
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And since I assume we have to draft a LB, having Mufasa around a rookie LB is NEVER a bad thing…..
But you are right, if they keep him it will be a reworked contract, so no matter what they decide to do about Meco, it’s most likely will involve freeing up cap space, whether we cut him and save 3.5, trade him and save 4.5, or renegotiate his deal and end up saving something like 2mil… Any way we slice it, I think we will be using MEco to free up SOME cap space… The question is HOW much?
Guy was coming back from an ACL — he wasn’t going to be the same guy. I’d spread his $ over 2 years and let him “play” basically at vet min. But also hard to lead from the bench so maybe it’s best that he go.
I would have agreed going into the season, but then I witnessed the guy actually look decent early in the season, while looking like a shell of himself the second half of the season, where as it should have been the other way around…
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What I also don’t LOVE about keeping him, is im not sure he is ready to sit on the bench all year, only playing if someone gets injured… If they keep him, I assume they would give a healthy Mufasa some snaps, and I really don’t want him taking Snaps away from Jordan Hicks, since we can’t ask Meco to play the SAM or the WIL…. And if the Eagles draft ANOTHER LB which is my expectation, Meco would have to take a roster spot away from a guy like Goode who can play on 3rd down, and Can contribute to our ST..
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It would be harder for me to see us cut Mufasa, than to see us keeping him… But I can’t help feeling that ending the Mufasa era is what’s best for us going forward… Whenever we cut the guy, it’s not going to be easy… Might as well rip the band aid now instead of prolonging something we know has to happen soon…
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I believe that it’s important to have high CHarechter Veteran Leaders, but I don’t think we need more than 2 or 3 veteran Leaders… Clearly Celek is one of those leaders, looks like JP and Sproles will also still be here… id be confidemt that those players can take care of the leadership especially when we have some younger Vets who are also leaders like Barwin. jenkins, Kelce..
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If the Eagles draft a LB like I expect them to do, it may be a little too crowd to keep Mufasa…. But I’ll support whatever they decide to do ahout Mufasa… And if his eagle career is over, I hope he eventually finds his onto our coaching staff
Also think Mufasa was necessary b/c he was the only one that can organize those folks. Think hicks can do that as well, but we saw what happened to run D when those guys were gone, and that was in a 2 gap system where DL wasn’t attacking.
That said, agree i’d rather see goode stay and meco go — we have a lot of capable LB talent
I think the Eagles will cut ties with Bradford, sign Foles to 3 year deal then use left over money to acquire Mario Williams.
then draft ol ol ol ol ol ol ol
Then next year we get ourselves a QB.
Then the year after that make our Super Bowl run baby!
Normally takes a rookie QB 3-4 years to be ready for a Super Bowl run… unless he has an sensational defense like Big Ben when he came into the league
Why would they acquire Williams when they have enough guys that can play DE already on the roster? That would be a terrible allocation of cap space and just not a good idea in general. Also it wouldn’t make sense to sign Foles to an extension knowing he may only be here for 1 year and only start maybe half the season.
I would love to have Mario WIlliams on teh team. If you like Connor Barwin better, then I can’t help you with your pathetic life.
Pathetic life is your constant moronic posts. Lets see you want to sign a 31 year old defensive end to a team that is not a super bowl contender next year. There’s one beyond idiotic suggestion. Adding on to the same, the team has enough players that can play DE, boom you’re an idiot again. What else do you want to get schooled with moron? Why don’t the Eagles sign Peyton Manning while they are at it. 40 year old 2x super bowl champ, that seems like it would make sense in your moronic head.
Hey if you think Connor Barwin is better than Mario Williams you are truly mentally handicapped.
mancrushing on Connor Barwin now?
is the Andy Reid love affair over now that he ran the Chefs playoff chances into the ground?
Let the trolls starve…. Come on TP, your better than that…
Thanks brother, it just every so often some people come with such stupid post that its hard to tell if they are trolling or that oblivious to the obvious. I remember this idiot now and will go back to ignoring his dumb posts.
Such a shame that Super Bowl champions get so grossly overpaid…. Id love to be able to sign a LB like Danny Travathan but a guy like him who just won a SUPERBOWL is gpmg to command Stupid Money on the open Market… Hopefully Travathan doesn’t end up with the Giants who are desperate for LB’s..,
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In next years free agency, I would REALLY LOVE to be able to sign Safety Darian Stewart away from Denver…A kid like Him in the backend, striking fear into opponents with the way he DELIVERS THE BOOM is EXACTLY what this defense NEEDS
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Unfortunately, its unlikely that he ends up with the Eagles. A kid like him who had to settle for a two year contract from the Broncos is going to be looking for a BIGTIME 5 yeàr Pay Day shen he reaches the open Market next year. Would have been great if he could be talked into reuniting with Cory Undlin, but his situatipn strikes me as the type of kid who after winning a SB will end up signing with a Crappy team like the Titans that end up throwing insane money at him….if we cut Maxwell next year, not sure how willing we would be to rush into another huge deal for a DB… Although, if we are going to sign Free Agents, I hope we sigń guys Wno our coaches know well having coached them before coming to Philly, for example. signing DBs that Undlin Knows from his days coaching the Broncos, or Offensive players that Reicht coached in San Diego.. Offensive players that Pederson coached in KC.. Defenders Shwartz coaches in Detroit and Buffalo… I want us to invest in guys we already know everything about from their personality, work ethic, selfish or team first guy willimg to Sacrafice for the good of the team
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After getting Screwed more times than not when we went free agent shopping, curious to see how Roseman approaches free agency this year… I don’t expect any big splashes, but it be great if we can get one quality starter and a decent back up or two, like a veteran #4 WR
Stewart never played for Undlin. He went to the Broncos this year after playing with Ravens last year.
Wasn’t he on the Brncos last year? Oh no no no, your right, he signed a 2 year deal and still has a year left on his deal, 2-1= 1 lol my basic math is off….
If the Eagles resign Foles and Mathis I am going to mail them half a pack of cigarettes and cheap sunglasses with a note that says, ‘We’re putting the band back together.”
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Forget it, no way,
We’re on a mission from God.
URLACHERZZZZZ + PLAX = Super Bowl
We could have won 6 SUPERBOWLS with the players we,passed on like Randy Moss, Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis smh
Hindsight is 20/20, you can’t just draft the players who turned out to be greats.
No, he can!
Unfortunately those weren’t exactly Hidden Gems… They were BIGTIME prospects who were passed on for other reasons like pot…
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You pass on a guy like Jason Peters who ends up being a hidden Gem, THATS muchbett more understandable,.. But when you take a guy like Mamula over a big name Warren Sapp eho is about as close to a cant miss prospect as it gets, you BETTER know what you are doing and get it right..
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I don’t think its Hindsight when 99% of Eagles fans felt strongly about taking Sapp over Mamula… Nothing Hindsight about that…
Sorry but this is nonsense. They picked Tra Thomas the year that Randy Moss was drafted. And Moss went 21, so 19 other teams (b/c Peyton still goes #1) didn’t have the “forsight” you claim to have.
And again, lots of teams passed on Sapp. I’m sure the 11 teams that picked before the Bucs said to themselves, “this guy is a future HOF’er but let’s not draft him”.
You’re kidding yourself and reinventing history.
You hear about character concerns dropping players all the time. Everyone knew Randy Moss and Warren Sapp were major talents. Some chose not to deal with the headache that could come with it.
Tell that to Jameis Winston, Johnny Manziel, Dion Jordan, Aldon Smith, Justin Blackmon, Morris Claiborne, Bruce Irvin, etc. Teams don’t really give a shit at all about character.
Vonteze Burfict, La’el Collins, Dez Bryant, Randy Gregory, Shane Ray, Paul Dawson, Dorial Green-Beckham, Tyrann Mathieu, Justin Houston.
Talk about reinventing history. Claiborne, Blackmon, Smith, Jordan didn’t have character concerns coming out of college. True, they’ve all had issues since entering the league but they didn’t have red flags before. Blackmon I believe he had an underage drinking charge, but that is in no way predictive of his future behavior despite his current predicament.
Johnny was a Top 5 pick, who fell to bottom half of 1st round bc of character (similar to Moss and Sapp by the way).
Each players circumstances are different and teams will weigh those risks accordingly, Drugs vs. criminal vs. maturity. How frequent? How serious? And sadly, how good do they project?
turned out ok, currently in jail, and may have killed one or two people.
Gasperson?
Who is in jail?
Isn’t Sapp in jail on assault and prostitution charges?
Is he?… Maybe
Arizona charges apparently dropped on plea deal, but now save us all from his asinine reporting on NFL network. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25225291/hall-of-famer-warren-sapp-charged-with-domestic-violence-in-las-vegas
New case in Las Vegas as well. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25225291/hall-of-famer-warren-sapp-charged-with-domestic-violence-in-las-vegas
Getting him off of TV is certainly a step in the right direction for humanity
Absolutely.
– Eagles pass on Randy Moss — *but* for OLT Tre Thomas.
– Sapp over Mamula in ’95 . . . Painful then as now.
But, that year, Rhodes did draft CB Bobby Taylor and WR Chris T. Jones, who’d have been pretty good but for his knee injury, in that draft.
– In ’96 Lewis slid to 26th — one spot *after* the Eagles took OT Jermaine Mayberry (whom Reid turned into a Pro Bowl OG). Rhodes, and most of the NFL, missed on Lewis in Rd 1. No question about it.
But in ’96 Rhodes did draft Brian Dawkins and sign All Pro CB Troy Vincent in free agency.
And in ’97, Rhodes traded for DE Hugh Douglas.
So imagine the defense Rhodes *could* have put together . . . or, said another way, look at whom Jim Johnson could have inherited in 1999:
– Sapp, Douglas, and Hollis Thomas at DL.
– Lewis at MLB
– Vincent, Taylor, Dawkins as DBs
In addition, since we already would have had Sapp at DT, we could have drafted PLAX or URLACHERZZZ with our first round pick in 2000 instead of Corey Simon!
Michael Gasperson? He’s like Uncle Rico, except Coach did put him in in the 4th quarter and he dropped the ball. FINIS
NFL Network’s Mike Silver said the Browns lied about Johnny Manziel being in the concussion protocol Week 17.
“Johnny Manziel, going into what would have been a start late in the season, showed up drunk at practice on a Wednesday,” Silver reported. “The Browns lied and said he was in the concussion protocol.” The Browns have already decided to move on from Manziel, but this report could lead to serious discipline for the organization if true. The Browns have denied the report. Manziel is currently under investigation for allegedly beating his ex-girlfriend in January.
what a mess
What a complete p.o.s. It amazes me that this guy doesn’t generate a fraction of the hate Ray Rice got though. He’s obviously not being held to the same set of standards that most other NFL/professional athletes are held to.
be different if there as video. Even hardy got back in the league. But Ray R. who was a model citizen previously, blackballed.
I don’t tink that has anything to Do with the video. If Ray Rice could add as much to a team as Dallas thought they can get from Greg Hardy, Rice would have at least gotten another chance by now.
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The more a team can get out of you, the more they are willing to put up with and give a guy a second chance… if Greg Hardy had 12’sacks this year, he would still be a cowboy even tho he behaved as a disgrace all year… But when he only gets like 6 sacks, putting up with his bullshit no longer makes sense..
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johnny brings even less to the table than Ray Rice, and has a much lengthier history of troubling behavior than Ray Rice… There is nothing Johnny can provide to an NFL team that would make it worthwhile to deal with big is crap… I’ll be shocked if Mamziel EVER dresses for a regular season game again
dallas got pretty desperate at RB, they weren’t the only ones Steven Jackson even got in the league for the playoffs…
It’s odd, isn’t it. Every talking head insists that running backs are not important any more, yet every coach insists on establishing, or stopping, the run game!.
It will be a complete disgrace if this idiot is allowed to play in the NFL. Josh Gordon was crucified for smoking pot.
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It’s disgusting, but the way it usually works is the more Talent you have, the more teams will put up with, which is why Ray Rice hasn’t played since while Greg Hardy was given a job by Dallas…
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johnny Manziel brings NOTHING to the table when it comes to the pro game. He just isn’t very good. Im not even sure he is that much better than TEbow who I don’t even consider to be an NFL QB.. And this kid has had massive screw ups in all types of different ways… substance Abuse, entitled Brat, poor work ethic, all the partying… This Idiot was finally getting a chance to be the Startimg QB for the rest of the season. if Dangling that Carrot couldn’t get him to straighten up, or at lest fake it and trick us into thinking he has gotten his act together, NOTHING WILL…
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No One would ever let a late round scab like Taj Boyd screw up so many times and be given more opportunities, so I just can’t see what any team gets out of dealing with this idiot and giving him more Chamces than he deserves..
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And This is all bad enough, but when you put your hands on a woman, you officially cross that line of no return And should NEVER set foot in an NFL Lockerroom again
The NFL’s going to suspend Manziel (assuming the evidence reported recently exists) — regardless of what law enforcement does.
1. The NFL can rely entirely on the affidavit of Manziel’s ex-girlfriend, which was good enough to get a TRO against him.
2. Throw in a doctor’s report of her injuries.
3. Add in his father’s comments.
4. Also, the Browns may have some “Cherry on Top” information.
Plenty to support Goodell’s decision.
No. Johnny Manziel’s out.
If Jerry Jones is officially out on Manziel, everyone is. Out of the NFL. A quiet settlement from now he’ll be partying again and living off some sweet sweet nepotism.
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I think if Jones thought Manziel’s problems were manageable, then he’d sign him.
Sadly for Manziel (and even worse his ex-), the kid is spiraling.
Between him and his posse, you can imagine a brawl getting started that ends the way that one in Atlanta ended — for which Ray Lewis pled guilty to obstruction.
Manziel’s about as out of control as any NFL player in a while. Far worse than Josh Gordon.
Lawrence Phillips type of personal destruction/
ET . . .
Great comparison. And probably the best comparison.
Below some were commenting on Moss dropping to 21. One could argue that what happened with Phillips scared teams away. If Moss would of went to a crappy team. A team picking early, he probably would of gone off the rails. The veterans, especially Chris Carter, held him to a higher standard. Look what happened when he went to Oakland and the losing started compared to his early years in Minnesota and again in New England.
I’m pretty sure Phillips is a convicted murderer…not sure that’s a fitting comparison at all.
Josh Gordon was crucified for smoking pot.
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The NFLPA *agreed* to the penalties imposed on Gordon.
That punishment was *not* discretionary.
One of his violations was for an amount which is no longer a violation. Quite often in the real world, if a law is changed to be more permissive (acknowledging the old law as wrong), people convicted of the old law which would not be a crime for the new law are let off. Gordon… was only partially reduced. The NFL seemed more eager to throw the book at the guy because they could, rather than what was more “right”. The NFLPA fought for him, but in the end could only make the NFL agree to the 10-game compromise — the NFL certainly could have commuted that conviction had they so chosen but they fought to keep it. His most recent incident was not for pot at all, but for alcohol (not the reason for the original season-long ban). And they went after him for drinking on a party plane to Vegas after his season was over… where the letter of the CPA (or maybe just his agreement) was only after everyone’s season is over. And of course he was notified to test within four hours right when the plane landed — they were looking to bust him. They could have chosen to let that go, or not test in that circumstance, but didn’t.
The NFL often seems to punish by the legalistic letter, without a judge’s sense of what is fair based on the circumstance. If the goal is to get Gordon to not abuse pot or alcohol, they seem to have done that — neither recent incident seemed to show a real problem (though earlier stuff certainly did). If he full-up failed a random test, it could be different, but there was nothing random about the timing of that last test. If a guy genuinely seems to be solving his problems, nailing them on technicalities hurts rather than helps.
People despise Johnny Manziel.
Silver since apologized stating the Browns did not lie. Manziel is still a loser
Not expecting more than 2 or 3 Free agent additions. And half of the good players will get extended and not even reach the open market… But hopefully we can find a starting upgrade or two and add a bench player or two… Some Interesting names could end up being available..
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RB… I really don’t see us signing another RB, but if they dump one of our RBs, I would find two players interesting
1) Chris Polk
2) MIKE Tolbert as a leonard Weaver type
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Much more likely would be looking towards the Free agent Guards, although im not exactly sure what type of OL we plan on Bulding. Andy Loved his big road grading Guards, not sure what Doug and Stoutland have in mind…it could be a long term starter or a older stop gap veteran band aid.. Not sure which names interest eagle fans the most
1) Mathis.. Obvipus Band aid veteran
2) Jhari Evans, Obvipus Band aid veteran
3) Alex Boone
4) Keleche Osmele
5) Jeff Allen
6) JR Sweezy
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WR’s…. ObviousLy this position needs to improve, but it most likely has to come from further developing our young WR… I think it’s HIGHLY UNLIKELY that we see the Eagles pay big money for a #1’WR, especially in this weak WR Market… So I wouldn’t get my hopes up for some Alshon Jeffries type splash…. More likely this will be a veteran #4 WR, or possibly even a Brad Smith, Ajiritutu type ST ace…. Anyone have any interest in names like…?
1) Marvin Jones? DOUBTFUL going to be overpaid
2) Rueban Randle? Yuck..
3) Rishard Mathews? meh.
4) Mohammed Sanu?
5) Jerman Kearse?
6) Old man Nate Washington?
7) Teavis Benjamin?
NOT an inspiring list of names… unless,you are trading to take a Flier on Josh Gordon, our 2016 leading WR’s are most likely already on our roster
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Safety…. I think Safety and Guard are the most likely positions that the eagles would look to Fill with Longterm starting Caliber playërs… my IDEAl safety Targets are:
1) Illoka
2) Tashuan Gipson
Some other names are
3) William Moore, got waived yesterday
4) Rashad Johnson
5) Reggie Nelson
6) Weddle..old
7) Eric Berry Pipe Dream
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LB.. More likely we draft a Linebaker than sigń one…
1) DANNY Travathan
2) DeMario Davis
3) Zack Briwn
4) Nigel Bradham
5) David Hawthorne
6)’Shea McCLellan
7) Jerrell Freeman
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Not a very attractive list of names to be overpaying for which is basically the nature of free agency… Fortunately there could be some Talemt available at Safety and Guard which happen to be our starting positions of Immediate NEED…. If the Eagles can finally solidify our safety posituon signing Gipson or Illoka, and then sigń a stop gap Guard like Mathis or,Evans, I would be fine if they didn’t sign any other free agents… And if they actually manage to sign a Longterm starting Safety AND a Longterm starting Guard like Boone, Osmele,Jeff… Id really be thrilled…. Don’t think the Eagles need to go on this big free agent shopping spree.. Hit on two signings, three at the most and I’ll be THRILLED… Even if they only sigń a safety and a Guard, we would still have 9 draft picks to spend on
1) Guard (we need 2)
2) DT
3) LB
4) CB
5) S
6) WR
7) OT
8) RB
9) WR
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Hit on 4 or 5 of those draft picks, and two Quality Free Agents, and that should come close to filling all our immediate starting Needs, and some Of our Depth needs,..
Raiders cut Nate Allen.
There’s a player who may have never overcame the psychological scars of the knee injury from his rookie year.
His 13-game rookie season in 201:
– 3 INTs
– 8 PDs
– 1 FF
– 2 sacks
Or maybe that’s the best he was ever gonna be. But his instincts seemed to take a step back after his injury.
Think he was playing pretty well for Raiders but suffered another injury.
That’s a shame.
Nate Allen’s a good guy. Snake bit.
He looked so good his rookie year…and he seems like such a good guy.
HOWIE better Not DARE!!!
do you think would that be a Schwartz call if it happened?
I can’t really imagine Aggressive Shwartz wanting a Safety that could be called many things, but aggressive is not one of them..
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I would think that it would be a HOWIE move…. There are at least a handful of better safeties available in FA…
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If Allen is cheap enough to be a training camp body that we can end up cutting him in August, adding Him could make some sense… But paying him as a member of the 53 man roster is the last thing I want to see….
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All the joy of cutting Cooper would go down the drain if you try and sell eagle fans on Nate
the Cooper thing would be ruined for sure
Don’t think so, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see them show interest in Michael Griffin, just released by TEN.
wouldn’t be a bad moe, though wonder if they need a strong safety, gotta look more at the team DET had a few years ago.
At this stage in his career Griffin would play the SS role. I wouldn’t mind him on a 2-3 year deal.
Here’re the safeties for the Titans (’01-’08), Lions (’09-’13), and Bills (’14) when Schwartz coached them:
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** Titans 2001-08 **
– Blaine Bishop / Aric Morris (2001)
– Tank Williams / Lance Schulters (2002-03)
– Tank Williams / Lamont Thompson (2004-05)
– Lamont Thompson / Chris Hope (2006)
– Michael Griffin / Chris Hope (2007-08)
** Lions 2009-13 **
– Louis Delmas / Marvin White / Ko Simpson (2009)
– Louis Delmas / Amari Spievey (2010-12)
– Louis Delmas / Quin Glover (2013)
** Bills 2014 **
– Da’Norris Searcy / Aaron Williams
I think coop was a good third option. I guess you save some cap cutting him but don’t know where the money gets spent.
Its all about qb now and bradford sucks.
A good 3rd option, are you being serious? Cooper should be no higher then the 5th WR on any team.
You guys get too down on people and high on people that suck. Hence, sam bradford.
There is no high or low with me. Cooper was never good, had one decent season and that’s it so I stick to my opinion on him. Sam Bradford? I’ve stated too many times that I don’t think he’s a good QB and stand by that. I’m a realists that isn’t getting to high or low on anybody but your statements made no sense. I am not trying to attack you in these post, I am nor informing you how incorrect you are.
Eh, I’m not tracking everyones comments. My feeling is that Sam was a mistake but a reasonable one.
Cooper was ok as a number 3 receiver. I’m staying with that.
Forgot about kendricks as a 3 4 guy.
I think you are drunk.
Lack of sleep….
Only if the first two options are winning and almost winning.
And i have to say, grabbing another 4 3 defensive coordinator is also depressing.
Your post is depressing. Going back to an attacking 4-3 instead of a stupid run stopping 2-gapping 3-4 is the ideal situation.
Douche buddy, we have just invested a lot of time getting 3 4 people. Now, we dont have guys for 4 3 end or wlb.
Just another delay in building a team.
Vinny Curry and Brandon Graham have both played extensively at DE in 4-3 before Chip.
And Kendricks is arguably a better fit at WLB in a 4-3 then at MLB in a 3-4.
No guys to play 4-3 DE? Guy have you paid any attention to this offseason or the players on this team? Vinny Curry and Brandon Graham are natural 4-3 DEs. Barwin also plaited DE in college and MS2 is also a natural DE. I really have no clue where you get the notion that gotta team doesn’t have the personnel to run the 4-3. Do some homework before making statements like that friend. WLB they have 2 players capable of playing that in Alonso and Kendricks.
It seems more and more each day we are moving on from Bradford. While I really like Bradford, this is probably the best move money-wise. If you’re not in love with him, no reason to use the franchise tag. While I don’t like the options that are out there, I definitely don’t want Foles back.
I’m also leery of just drafting a QB to do so, especially if you’re not sure if he’s going to have long-term potential. We’ve seen how that’s played out in Cleveland.
I don’t care about the money. I want the team to do everything in its power to be the Superbowl Champions, not Salary Cap Champions.
Leverage is a part of business. If we extend guys early and get below market value deals, shouldn’t we also expect to pay above market deals when players are about to become free agents. Vinny Curry got paid based on his potential, yet Bradford’s potential seems to be ignored.
Andy Reid gave up two 2nd round picks, and $68 million for 29 year old Alex Smith because he thought he was the best available option for KC to win. Andy understood QB is the most important position in the team. This Foles talk and $20 million for the franchise tag being too much money for Sam is just silly.
Yeah but Alex Smith had shown he could be good at times.. Bradford has never been better than average in 5 years in the league, and often worse. He has no signature performances or wins. That’s a problem.
One of the Criticisms of Kessler in the draft is he just does not take risks and plays too safe. I would argue Bradford does the same. IF you had a Denver 2015 defense he might be a good fit because of it, but otherwise he is just not going to go win you games when you need him to 3-4 times a year.
I disagree with what Andy has done in KC. That team as it is constructed is not going to win the big prize, and is stuck in the zombie land that he found himself in post 2004 of being good but unable to achieve or have a path to great.
i’d be a good fit if I had that Denver defense too
“He has no signature performances or wins. That’s a problem”
So what your saying is he’s no Tebow. Tebow had several signature wins, including the playoffs against the Steelers. Come to think of it, now it makes sense why Pederson is high on Foles, he does hold the NFL record for throwing 7 TDs in a game. I would definitely call that a signature performance.
I tend to judge Sam on his actual football skills.
His ability to climb the pocket.
Accuracy.
Read the defense.
Get rid of the ball quickly.
Stand in the face of pressure and get rid of the ball accurately.
Anticipation throws.
Signature wins, lol. Next thing you’ll tell me he doesn’t “elevate” his teammates to not drop balls, or get called for illegal formation, or jump offsides, or run the wrong route, or get called for holding.
He does not read the defense well nor does he throw with anticipation… that is the issue. He generally needs to see the WR open before he throws it.
He also stuggles to adapt his game to the situation. when chasing a game checking down on 3rd down or throwing short of the 3rd down marker is not helping you win games. Looks great on completion percentage but costs games.
Bradford throws a beautiful ball – every aspect of it is great, the speed, the spiral, the fast release. But that is all he has… and at no point has he ever developed more to his game, and at some point you have to accept it is highly unlikely he ever will.
Lol
Disagree his anticipation throws were good
I noticed that Igglesblitz commenters have been reading it this way, but I am not really seeing reflected in the bigger “ecosystem”.
Just finished watching a little Ronnie Staley, the OT from ND and I can say that Tunsil is definitely the more complete OT. Staley however, will make a fantastic left tackle. Time and time again rushers would come and he would simply strike out with his hands and mirror their movements. His steps are so quick and so balanced, its borderline beautiful? He handles spin moves, bull rush, rip moves, speed rush, you name it. The only time I saw him get beat was by Shaq Lawson and that may have been because he set to the outside, expecting the left guard to set to the inside because the left guard’s defender dropped into coverage. Where it breaks down is run support where he is very average at best, generating little push and rarely sealing off his defender in run games. Maybe his patience in pass sets rub off too much in the run game and he needs to become more violent there. Blocking at the second level is hit and miss. However he does pass the penalty check, rarely receiving off side fouls. Overall an extremely effective pass blocker who can handle rushers of all shapes and sizes, moves and counter moves. Run blocking needs to be improved considerably if he wants to be considered a well rounded tackle.
Both of those guys need to get better at run blocking.