Depth for the OL?
Posted: March 31st, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 181 Comments »This was interesting news.
Offensive lineman Stefen Wisniewski, who recently visited the #Steelers, was with the #Eagles today, source said.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 31, 2016
Wisniewski is good enough to start, but isn’t good enough to be a good starter. He would be a solid addition as a backup/competition. Wiz played LG early in his career and then transitioned to C. He has okay size at 6-3, 305 and just turned 27.
With David Molk’s retirement, the Eagles don’t have a clear backup to Jason Kelce. Josh Andrews and Barrett Jones are in the mix, but neither has the kind of game experience you prefer in such a key position. Wiz has plenty of experience and could be an excellent backup.
He also might challenge for the LG spot. Right now it would seem Allen Barbre, Matt Tobin and Andrew Gardner are going to battle for that role. Wiz has more starting experience and natural ability than any of them.
I’m sure Wiz is looking for a chance to start as much as anything. The Eagles can offer him a chance to prove himself, but clearly it would just be a chance. There will be competition and the team will go with who wins the job. No one is going to be promised anything. None of them deserve that.
We’ll see what happens. Wiz has waited this long. He’s not going to sign just for the heck of it. He’s trying to find the right spot for a strange time in his career. No one will give him a starting job so he’s got t find a team that will at least give him a chance.
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Hearing #Chiefs working on a trade of RB Knile Davis.
— Jason Cole (@JasonColeBR) March 31, 2016
The Eagles need help at RB. Davis might be worth a conditional pick. Or the Eagles could just wait to see if the Chiefs cut him.
Doug Pederson spent the past 3 years with Davis and knows whether he’s worth bringing in. If Pederson has no interest, that doesn’t say much for Davis.
The reason Davis would make some sense is that he’s 227 pounds. Ryan Mathews has good size, but Darren Sproles and Kenjon Barner are smaller RBs.
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As just noted on @SportsCenter, you can add Christian Hackenberg to the #Eagles workout list (expected to take place next week).
— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) March 31, 2016
Smart to give him a look, but I’ll be shocked if they like what they see. Hack has a great arm, but aside from that he is all over the place.
Pederson wants to run a variation of the WCO, where footwork is crucial for the QB. Hack has terrible footwork. I just can’t see him being a good fit.
I hope Hack goes to Houston so we can see if Bill O’Brien can get him back on the right track. I don’t like Hack as a prospect at all, but I’d love to see him get to the right spot and succeed. The NFL is a better league when there are good QBs and I’ll always pull for a Penn State guy at the next level.
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I just watched Hack for the first time and went to another prospect after a game and a half. When you miss easy screen passes, consistently throw the ball in strange locations, never see where a blitz is coming and are a class A douche, you’re are gonna be passed on over and over again. On another note, I like what I see out of Brissett. Has some pretty dope accuracy on the short and intermediate stuff. Can put juice on the ball but can also loft the ball. Decent pocket presence which is improved by the fact that he can take a hit and stay up. Mobile enough for a big guy and it would be nice to see Pederson keep a bit of the option. He has played under center and is good rolling out to his right. The knocks are his deep ball is pretty blah, so you worry about getting very many big plays, if any. In the Temple game he was very good at taking what the defense gave him and tossing the ball away instead of trying to force it. However, in other games he would perhaps rely a bit too much on his ability to take a hit and give up a sack/ hit where he didn’t have too. Overall, wouldn’t be upset if he was selected as a developmental prospect but his lack of deep ball accuracy will limit his ability to be a “big play” qb. I think his issues with getting sacked can be fixed with more trust in his line.
I think the ceiling on Brissett is so low that I wouldn’t waste a pick on him.
Hack, based on arm talent and freshman year film, is going to be taken earlier than he should. I can’t match any potential reward with him to the risk somebody is going to take with him in terms of how early he’ll go.
I would not be crushed if the eagles took Hack in the 3rd. He needs to rebuild his game and mechanics entirely… And that could take 2-3 years but there is raw materials there to work with. Prefer we take a QB with enough raw talent that they have a chance to become a quality starter… Something is just do not seeing a Hogan (does not have an NFL arm) having. Same thing with Brissett and Prescott.
There’s guys out on the streets and CFL that would be less of an headache and have better physical traits than Hackenberg.
Like Brandon Bridge.
I say again: Driskel is the guy with the horrible production, possible the wrong mindset yet a lot of raw tools to work with. If they go for a really late round prospect I don’t know who has higher upside than him.
No.
Hoping we end up with Hogan at QB. Round 5 would be ideal for me
Hogan would be my mid round guy as well. Unfortunately I dont think he makes it to the 5th.
Yeah I’m not so sure he would last that long either…. I wouldn’t take him with pick #100 (top of round 4), but anything after that works for me
Hack is one player I do not want the Eagles to end up with. In any round.
Completely agreed.
I’m surprised to hear you say this. I always thought he was a pretty good player.
“Allen Barbre, Matt Tobin and Andrew Gardner are going to battle”…
Where have I heard this before?
At least now it is just for one spot… before, it was two.
Gardner is a credible starter IMO… I hope to never see tobin and Barbe start for us again
Wasn’t it an episode of Epic Rap Battles of History?
“Wisniewski is good enough to start, but isn’t good enough to be a good starter.”
So he’d be a big upgrade at LG and a solid upgrade at Center.
My biggest concern with the idea of bringing in Knile Davis is Howie’s off season theme of pairs this year. He will be hard pressed to find another Knile, and so I fear a return of Butch Davis in some capacity.
maybe pairing him with Chip’s state of deknile?
Not knowing what we have in backup Centers Josh Andrews and Barrett Jones, adding Wiz would be an excellent depth signing,,. Finally having a credible Backup Center would make me feel so much better about Kelce’s past durability concerns, and if he can also provide an upgrade at LG, that’s just Gravy…. We brought him in for a visit, im really hoping we don’t let him out the building without signing him.
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Adding KNiles makes zero sense to me unless they plan on Flipping Mathews on Draft night.. We NEED rookie Legs at RB. We already have veterans in Ryan/sproles, we NEED to add a rookie RB… I’ll pass on KC’s #4 RB…
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By the time this process is over, the Eagles will have worked out like 80% of the QB prospects, so no reason to try and read into each QB visit
The word need in your post is only zero percent correct. I’m not a huge N. Davis proponent, but your logic is useless. If he came, and we had no youth at RB this year, but are successful with the RB Corp this year, we can draft youth next year in what is supposed to be a stellar loaded RB class. Therefore your logic is wrong.
Kniles is only 24. I wouldn’t mind Sproles/Ryans/Kniles as a trio….
I know how old he is, and still have absolutely zero interest,,,, need to draft a rookie that we have under contract for the next 4 or 5 years..
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If KC wants to give us Knile for Kenjon Barner, be my guest,.. But I wouldnt give up any of our draft picks for him, not even our 7th
Wiz is better then the 3 back up’s we have now. Tobin is lousy and should be cut based on last seasons. Gardner is the top back up and Barbre is a decent back up too. Would like to see Bunches step up and compete with Wiz if we sign him.
I would like to see someone drafted in the top 4 rounds compete to be the starter.
“Ball security can be improved, but when it comes to NFL Draft prospects, fumble rate can be a telling statistic. Knile Davis entered the NFL with a poor fumble rate out of Arkansas and for the Kansas City Chiefs in 2014, he had four fumbles on 150 offensive touches, fumbling once every 37.5 touches.”
Knile Davis = Hand Size: 8⅝”
Tiny hands = higher propensity to fumble
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25092869/nfl-draft-fumble-rate-among-rb-prospects
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/7898/with-many-fumbles-chiefs-wary-of-knile-davis
“With a 3.3 yards per carry average his production as a running back, to me, does not out weigh his case of the dropsies. The word on the street is he has a fumbling problem, and I’d say a 1.7% butterfinger rate paired with only 3.3 yards per carry means the word is correct. I still say if he fumbles more than Tiki, he fumbles too much. ”
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1/26/10833172/hearing-footsteps-a-requested-re-look-at-fumbles
The Tiki guy that was the Giants all time rushing and reception leader? Jordan M. was also labeled as a “butterfinger” guy too. This stuff wouldn’t stop me from acquiring Kniles….
3.3 yards per carry is worse than the fumbling.
is the offensive line coming with him?
He isn’t anything special. No idea why anyone would want to lose a draft pick to add him
they might be able to get him for free if he’s dropped by KC. Boy – they didn’t use him much at all last year. I guess he fell well behind West and Ware.
I just think that if we are going to carry two talented but ONLY temporary RBs in Mathews and Sproles who’s time in philly is limited, Id prefer using that #3 RB spot on a draft pick that we hope can eventually be a #1 RB for us when We move on from Ryan and Sproles.
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If we do add KNiles I hope it’s a situation where we trade KC a player that wasn’t going to make the Roster anyway, hoping that the RB we do draft, ends up beating KNiles in Camp and taking his roster spot
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I don’t see Him ever becoming a #1 RB… And we have enough Fumbling concerns with Ryan Mathews and us super violent collisions. Are we really going to carry two RB that are fumbling concerns?
https://twitter.com/EagleFanProbs/status/715878839042318337
dude.. thats fake as anything..
check the date on the tweet.
so its gonna be like that today.. blah
gtfoh
YOU’RE FIRED!!!
I hope the reports of trading for Kniles Davis are equally as valid as this tweet.
April Fools much?
o.O
The point of Aprils Fools is to actually fool someone. No?
Hi Tommy, big fan all the way from Denmark – keep up the good work!
What do you think of Jaylon Smith, would you draft him with one of our 3rd rounders if he “falls” that far or do you see his knee injury as too big of a concern?
Best
Rolf
Patriots signed SS Pat Chung to a one-year, $5.7 million extension through 2018.
Chung had two years left on his current deal that he signed last January and is coming off yet another strong season. He started 14-of-15 games, recording 85 tackles, nine pass breakups, and a forced fumble. Chung has completely turned his career around and is a key to the defense against tight ends.
Has anyone followed Chungs time with the Pats? How, indeed, did such a two-bit dback turn his career around?
He was injured during his time here, but the turn around is still startling.
Are you really making excuses for Chung? Cmon please don’t try to validate his horrendous play.
Scheme/Coaching?
If that’s the case then it’s a damn shame we wasted his talent.
Belicheat is first and foremost a defensive coaching genius. It’s easy to forget that. And having cheating on your side is always a bonus.
True on both counts.
No one is lining him up to cover WRs 1 on 1?
idk, ask Kurt Coleman. Both Coleman and Chung were higher rated safeties in 2015 than even Walt Thurmond (still not as good as Jenkins tho)
I blame the fans.
I always liked the way Coleman hustled while with the Eagles, and he was a good hitter. I remember thinking he was just one of those guys whose athleticism would limit his ceiling.
He was a good hitter for his size, but not a good tackler. I do remember him bouncing off of multiple ball carriers, getting desrtroyed by Trent Richardson, and ricocheting off of Cruz in which should have been an easy tackle leading to a huge catch and run for a TD.
Yes he did hustle though.
He was solid with them before the Eagles as well. It’s the Dawkins curse man. Jenkins doesn’t wear bow ties because they’re stylish (no it certainly isn’t about style), they are freakin voodoo talisman’s from new orleans.
He was more than decent in college, decent before coming to Philly, and again, is earning his keep in respectable form. Maybe his story says more about the folly of force-fitting an alignment and scheme (without the requisite personnel) than it says about a player’s resurgence.
I only knew him from his time with the Eagles. Sounds like we wasted a talented athlete.
5 up votes. .. our coaching fail
That and he may simply be a very late bloomer.
I understand that he has been much better for the Patriots than he was for us, but 5.7? Isn’t that a little bit expensive for him?
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Im pleased with the Patriots poaching Potroast away from the Skins. Their GM had been doing a solid job of changing the Dan Snyder culture of throwing crazy money at every FA with a big name…but the Vernon Davis signing seems pointless
Obviously an April Fools Tweet, but I can see this being real in the next few years.
https://twitter.com/WinTheDay/status/715886734274379778
The Eagles, Bears, and Bucs could have varying levels of interest in franchise-tagged RE Muhammad Wilkerson.
ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini polled the rest of the ESPN NFL Nation reporters. Phil Sheridan, who covers the Eagles, cites Wilkerson’s local connection, as he went to Temple and grew up in the area, He’d also be an upgrade inside to pair with Fletcher Cox in new DC Jim Schwartz’s 4-3 defense. The Bears have the cap space and have been loosely connected to Wilkerson over the past month. Tampa Bay is one of the more pass-rush desperate teams in the league. Wilkerson trade chatter will heat up before the draft, but it’s tough to see him actually being dealt.
could have varying levels of interest. This is really newsworthy.
He’d be an upgrade for a lot of teams no? That doesn’t mean it makes sense to do it. I don’t see this happening for the Eagles at all.
Me either but it’s Eagle news so I figured I’d share it.
Franchise tagged Wilkerson draws varying levels of interest from other 31 teams – varying from none to significant.
Does that make Cimini’s report a tautology?
I kid.
There seems to be a lot of that going around lately.
liked your response yesterday to the assertion that Allbright’s tweet was a tautology
This is getting tautally out of control.
Sounds like an April Fool’s joke. It doesn’t really make much sense unless we get him for cheap and not to mention our very own homegrown stud DT still hasn’t been paid yet.
It’s complete speculation by the reporters. Nothing to indicate Sheridan has a source.
Not going to happen. Im a Huge Wilkerson fan, but this is about as unrealistic as it gets
‘Hearing #Chiefs working on a trade of RB Knile Davis.’ — is that trade tied to the Eagles or is T-Law just commented that it wouldn’t be a bad pickup?
It’s more that Kniles Davis is on the trade block and that it wouldn’t be a bad thing for the Eagles to be interested considering they have a whole at RB. Plus the Pederson connection is obvious.
As in, if you add up every guy on the roster the Eagles have a whole running back.
Basically yes.
Any time KC puts a player on the trading block This offseason, I would expect to see some media member connecting him to the Eagles… If the Eagles do have interest in him, I hope they trade a player. He isn’t someone I like enough to want to see us part with a Draft pick
Think he will end up with the Dolphins. I would have liked to ship Ryan Mathews to Miami, but I doubt they would do Another trade with us so soon, after they took some heat from the Maxwell/Kiko trade.
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I have zero interest in Knile…. We NEED to add a rookie RB at some point in the draft
I’ll take Mathews over Knile. Mathews’ worst season still had him a full half yard per carry higher than Knile’s 3.3, and fumbling issues beyond those with Mathews as well.
No reason to add another moving part just for the sake of change. If he is any more than a cheap upgrade on Barner, forget him and keep Mathews.
Knile is no where near Ryans level
I’m not sure anybody was saying ship Mathews for Kniles…Mathews/Sproles/Kniles isn’t that bad…but agreed that RB still needs to be addressed. He’s an upgrade over back end of the depth chart and would be cheap.
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Mathews appears to be that fools gold. I really like the way he plays. Keep hoping that he survives a season without injury. The dude can produce if he stayed healthy.
I don’t expect Ryan to play 16 games ever again,,, Injuries and some fumbling woes are just the cost of doing business with him. The Dude is big, Powerful, explosive and his running style creates all types of violent collisions, and because of that style of play, at this stage in his career I don’t think we will ever see him play all 16 games… Id consider getting 14 games out of him a great Year.
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The guy had some real nice runs last year behind what was a mess of an OL for chunks of the season. Im interested in seeing What he looks like Running behind Brooks/Lane (im expecting big things out of the right side of our OL) next year…
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But if we are going to go into the season with Sproles who is up there in age, and Ryan who we can’t expect to play 16 games, I think our #3 RB needs to be a YOUNG STUD. knile isn’t close to being good enough to make me feel comfortable going into a season with Ryan and Sproles.
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Think it’s important to fill that 3rd RB spot with a rookie who is talented enough to have a chance at eventually becoming our #1’RB for this next era of Eagle football. Knile will NEVER be a #1 RB, so I really don’t want to lose a Draft pick acquiring him
Since GEAGLE brought up trading Mathews to Miami in response to a comment about bringing in Davis, I thought that was purporting exactly that. Based on his follow up, I think you are correct and it was more of a non sequitur.
Reminds me of the great brian Westbrook. .. .. so many annoying injuries for a while … Buckhalter even moreso
first draft of the offseason
Round 1 Pick 8: Myles Jack, OLB/ILB, UCLA (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Javon Hargrave, DT, South Carolina State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 16: Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 8 (CHI): Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 29 (CHI): Sean Davis, FS/FS, Maryland (A)
Round 5 Pick 14: Isaac Seumalo, OG, Oregon State (B)
Round 5 Pick 25: Jason Fanaika, DE, Utah (A+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Alex Lewis, OT, Nebraska (B-)
Round 7 Pick 12: KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A+)
Strong effort sans Prescott. Prescott is a turd in a toilet, but you have some really good players at other spots. Well done.
So, yeah…………..this won’t be happening, but I couldn’t resist
Round 1 Pick 14 (OAK): Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (NYG): Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (A)
Round 2 Pick 13 (OAK): Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 2 Pick 16 (N.O.): Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14: Christian Westerman, OG, Arizona State (A)
Round 3 Pick 16: Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (B+)
Round 5 Pick 14: Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 25: Justin Simmons, FS, Boston College (B+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Josh Ferguson, RB, Illinois (A+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Yannick Ngakoue, OLB, Maryland (A)
Round 7 Pick 30: Andy Janovich, FB, Nebraska (B+)
Wow… I didn’t know super agent Eugene Parker passed away… RIP
BREAKING
The Eagles have sent a conditional 7th round pick to the Chiefs for RB Knile Davis.
This is a joke, right?
I haven’t seen anything…
SIKE!!!!
Happy April Fools Day!
How clever..
You. Guys. Are. Boring.
Blah blah blah, have another Guinness.
I’m on Stella today, mate.
Is. It. Necessary. To. Put. A. Period. After. Every. Word?
Not. Necessarily.
In America, jokes have humor associated with them.
that was a good joke.
“I’ll be filing for reinstatement to the NFL later This year. dealing with GM Trent Baalke is giving me a headache”- RT Anthony Davis… Lol sounds “committed”… Good luck Chip
San Francisco is the new Cleveland.
linky…
https://twitter.com/BamDavis_/status/715937098553950208
And, for the record, there was a follow up tweet insuring that this is not an April Fools prank.
Lol if he is going to take his sweet ol’ Time filing for reinstatement, is he trying to avoid some mini camp/workout activities? New head coaches like Chip and Pederson get to have mini camp earlier than everyone else. A 26 year old coming out of retirement, missing out on offseason team activities because he is draggin his feet filing reinstatement papers? chip is surely gonna love this kid lol.
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#ChipCulture
https://twitter.com/DZangaroCSN/status/715967699436888065
Makes sense. They get a week to review their tape/notes before the draft on what they have. Maybe the camp makes them think they have a larger need elsewhere.
The Lions got Steven Ridley on a 1yr deal
Eagles signed FB Ryan Mueller, formerly of the Chargers, to a two-year contract.
He entered the league as a linebacker last season but the Eagles plan to use him at fullback. Mueller went undrafted out of Kansas State and spent last year on the Chargers’ practice squad.
Josh Parry II
And Media Mike rejoices. If he makes the team anyways.
A true Media Mike rejoicing will only occur when the likes of Kenjon Barner is removed from the Eagles roster..
Correct. I need a RB3 on the roster before I can feel safe.
Knile Davis….??
Or Keith Byars out of retirement. Just get it done.
Your name is Knife?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxzkSA6FW9g
I want to find everyone here in Los Angeles who was even tangentially responsible for that atrocity you linked to, and drown them in the 3 inch muddy overflow of the LA River.
That was quite the film.
Don’t think we can carry a RB like Knile or Kenjon as our #3… When our two best RB’s are only temporary Eagles (Ryan n Sproles), I would think that we would look to draft a RB into that #3 spot, so we at least have a chance of getting Lucky and seeing the RB we draft go on to eventually become our #1 RB when Sproles and Mathews time in Philly expires,
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We pretty much Know what davis and Barner are by now, and Neither are going to grow into our Future feature backs. Shouldn’t be too hard to find a kid in the Draft who Will at least be a Knile or Barner Caliber RB, but at least have some chance of getting lucky and finding a Gem who can become more than Barner or Knile caliber RB… We are going to have to start looking for our future #1 RB and Carrying Knile/Ryan AND Sproles will keep us from even having a chance at finding a future Gem in the draft.
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If we knew that Ryan and Sproles could be our RB’s the next 3 or 4 years, adding a guy like Knile would make a little more sense to me, but knowing we have to start thinking about our future at RB, I think it would be a mistake to carry a RB like Knile or Barner who we already know have no chance of ever becoming our Feature back
Jonathan Williams from Arkansas would fit that bill and not have to be taken too early.
I’m going to go full media mike if we trade for kniles.
Go for it!
Your name is now an adjective, evidently
I’ll co-sigń your media MIKE inspired rampage
This dead horse that you have been beating has bruises that are in the shape of “enough already”.
Im going to take a guess and say you felt the same about Mahe, as did I. For the record I do think Barner posseses more talent then Mahe.
Interesting… I assume he is also a talented ST player?
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Not familiar with the kid, but I would assume that this is the type of signing which may end up making the roster, or can easily be cut if we don’t like what we see?
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I would assume that we won’t add a legit starting FB until they get a look at Burton this offseason? I would think that if we do carry a FB, he has to be a solid player, who is also a very good ST player to make us carry Celek, ERTZ, Burton and a FB..
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If we are going to end up carrying a FB, I was hoping we would end up trading Taylor Hart or Kenjon Barner for the FB from the Niners that I assume chip won’t value..
https://youtu.be/DPZiB3gTCQQ
Lol got anything of him actually playing Offense? Or at least ST?
He’s a FB. He just has to run into somebody right?
Something like that
This is why Ernie Sims was miscast… I kept saying just line that fool up at FB and let him bust some skulls.
edit: to say that busting skulls is metaphorical. I know concussions are no laughing matter.
Funny and serious at the same time .. well played.
Insert Family Guy clip when indian guy gets the “nice day we are having” comment .com
Was excited for Simms. Forgot all about him. Unfortunetly his biggest hit for us was against his own teammate in TC.
That was durring our desperate LB search.
Lol…no sir. Sorry!
Guess our Offensive Coordinator saw something in him
if he’s a former LB i’m optimistic he can do STs. this reminds me of a certain Dan Klecko
I was hoping to see what 28yr old Bruce Miller had left in the Tank this summer, sending someone like Taylor Hart to the Niners
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He had a domestic Violence incident like a year ago (spousal abuse Chargers) that was lowered to Midemeanor Vandelism
Special fullbacker
Agree 100%. Was also thinking outside the box on this one but maybe Celek has some snaps at fullback. Good blocking, and doubles as a pass catching weapon out of the backfeild.
Maybe not immediatly line up in the backfeild but motion over there to catch D’s off gaurd.
The thought has actually crossed my mind too. We probably don’t want to have to use Celek at FB too often, because he is such a capabke blocker battling at the Line of scrimmage, and in Short yardage/goal Line, ideally we would have Celek at TE blocking on the Line of scrimmage AND a Fullback.. Of course we can Probably compensate by going with a jumbo TE package where we put Extra offensive Tackles in the Game replacing Celek as a TE blocking on the line of scrimmage, which can free up Celek to line up at FB…. The possibility has crossed my mind, but it should be easier for Trey Burton to make the transition to FB than it is for Celek. Burton actually has Experiemce linning up in the backfield and even carrying the ball as a RB… He was even used by Chip as a RB late in the game, trying to preserve the Lead, so transitioning to FB shouldn’t be too hard for him. It probably will come down to his Size/strength. He has what, 3 years of NFL strength and conditioning,program under his belt already? As long as he is at least around 230-240lbs. He shouldn’t have too much trouble making the transition to FB for us..
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I think it be a pretty nice addition to our offense if Burton can handle the transition to FB because he is an under rated pass catching weapon, and in the west coast Offense, a FB can be a sneaky pass catching weapon. burtons Athleticism, height and pass catching ability can be weaponized at the FB spot in this offense. Adding his ability as a pass catcher out of the backfield excites me, but for that to happen we need him to be able to handle lead blocking for a RB. Burton is a great ST player, under rated pass catching weapon that can be a real nice addition from the FB spot, and it would allow us to keep Celek battling at the line of scrimmage, while Ertz focuses on being one of our best pass catching WR/TE
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Celek probably hasn’t spent much time linning up in the backfield, it’s probably an easier more natural transition for Burton who has experience playing as a RB. Instead of hitting the hole with the ball in his hands, he now has to hit the hole looking to make contact with a LB.. It’s not exactly Rocket Science so hopefully Burton proves caoable of it so we don’t have to carry a FB on the 53 man roster.
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I strongly feel that Burton can be much more of a pass catching weapon than we saw under chip, and his easiest path to more snaps is winning the starting FB spot… Im really hoping he can make this transition so we don’t have to carry a FB on the roster, or ask Celek to do something foreign to him so late in his career….but it definitely crossed my mind too
Agree. Just want to be clear that im not saying i want Celek as a starting FB in which i think Burton can do, but have him motion into FB to possibly catch a D off gaurd.
I think should all start working on our, “Mmmmuuuuuuullllllllllee!” chant this weekend. The Mule is clearly superior to the Moose.
wouldn’t the chant more naturally be
“MUOOO!”? [or “MEW” . . . whichever.]
We may need the German to weigh in here.
Thomas Müller is the bestest!
My favorite international soccer superstar. And I still insist FIFA fixed the 2010 World Cup for Spain because they didn’t rescind that nonsense yellow for a “hand ball” that left Muller suspended for the semifinal that year.
Totally agree. Spain was great that year, but Germany was at least a close second behind. The semi final should have been the final, with different odds that time!
it’s gonna sound like boo no matter what.
Tanner Hawkinson, I hardly knew ye.
Roseman continues the “Kelly House Cleaning” . . . .
They likely decided he wasn’t a scheme fit for whatever Doug wants to run. 4th year guy and unless you think he has a chance to be one of your top 7/top 8 linemen, then not really much point in having him on the roster. Better to have an extra spot for an undrafted FA.
He’s been chipping away at it for awhile now.
Chipping away at chip with a sledge hammer
It’s a sad, sad day. Do you think he gets in on the first ballot?
We’re a little light on Tackles now.
No worries, we have Tobin.
ouch
Not a common problem when you are talking about 300 pounders.
So Reuben randle expects to start. I’d say nahhhhh
Must be his Aprils fools joke
We don’t have two WRs who are better, so he should expect to start, he probably will.
For him to start, I would think that would mean that they are keeping Jordan in the slot. But since Pederson will give a serious look to Mathews on the outside, it would be great for us if Jordan proved he could thrive in that role and pair with Nelson as our outside tandem, leaving Givens, Randle, Huff and a rookie to compete for the starting slot WR.
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I think Randle could end up being a solid addition even tho he is a disgusting New York Giant. id be thrilled just to get those 8 TDs the Giants got out of him, maybe expand his role a little once we get in the redzone, if we can get even close to a TD every other game out of him, that would be a huge addition considering we haven’t been too great in the Redzone.
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People like to automatically assume that Jordan won’t ever grow into a quality outside WR, but im not at all ready to say what a kid with his work ethic won’t ever be able to do…. And if People are comfortable assuming Randle can start on the outside, it really doesn’t make much sense to me to say that Rande can play outside, but Jordan can’t ever be more than a slot..
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RR: 6’3, 210lbs, 33″ arm length, 9.5(Hands), 4.55 (40 yard dash), 31(vert), 15reps(Bench)
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JM: 6’3, 213lbs, 33.25″ arm length, almost 10.5(hands), 4.46(40), 35.5(Vert).
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Laquan Treadwell: 6’2, 221lbs, 33 (3/8ths) arms, 9.5 hands, 40 time (Not fast), bench press 12 reps, vert jump 33 inches
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jordan is younger, just as tall, stronger, faster, bigger hands, longer arms, and has almost 4 inches more on his vertical leap than Randle.
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Many people think Treadwell is the best WR in this draft..,the ONLY thing Treadwell measured in better than Jordan is Treadwell is 10lbs heavier, but that extra bulk translated to 12 reps on the bench and Jordan almòst doubled that with 21’reps… And Treadwell can’t blame long arms for his weak bench, when Jordans are almost the same exact size.. Jordan is a little Taller, his 40 time is way faster, he jumps higher than Treadwell, both have long arms, Jordan has bigger hands..
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maybe We find out that Jordan is best used in the slot full time, but im no where even close to being ready to just assume that two years into his career, just because the “mad King” chip Kelly ONLY used him in the slot, especially when he spent his first two years as a pro under a WR coach that HASNT adequately developed anyone since joining our staff…. If Jordan isn’t an outside WR today, he has more than enough tools to be worth trying to teach and develope him as an Outside WR.
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What Jordan Mathews does at outside WR is probably going to be one of the biggest questions of this summer.
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We are most likely going to draft our #6 WR at some point, and while Rueban Randle and Chris Givens ARENT flashy individual signings, I do think they help clearly upgrade our WR group as a whole from what it has been these past few years,, I like that Huff is our ONLY WR that lacks height, but he has strength and explosiveness for Greg Lewis to work with.. I like that Stylistcally, Givens gives us some deep ball ability we have Lacked, while Rueban is a different type of WR who can be an added Redzone threat for us.. So while they aren’t big individual additions, I do think they will help make our WR group better than it has been… Hoping the Rookie we draft is more of speed Deamon than another big body….
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we really need Greg Lewis to prove that he is a class above Bicknell as a WR coach. Hopefully the more sophisticated pro style routes that Doug Brings, compared to the allegedly more simple chip routes will also have a big impact on further developing Jordan, Nelson and Huff into the caliber of weapons we need them to be.
I agree that JM is good enough now to say that he would be our top WR. That’s why I specified to name two better WRs. No way you can say Agholor is better than Randle. Hope he proves me wrong though.
Agree regarding Agholor 100%. As i stated above i dont know why people are so positive that he will start on the outside over Randle.
Agholor was a first round pick of a previous regime whom was rated as the worst WR last year. Yes, he does have talent, yes he does have promise, but i dont think its smart to pen him in as a starter on the outside if Mathews moves to outside, or maybe at all.
I want Agholor to work out, but im not as sure as it seems everyone else is that he will be starting out there on day 1.
Saying Ruben is an upgrade over Cooper/Austin is an understatement.
Yes, when asked, he should have definitely said no.
“I’m just here to compete”.
LUNCH PAIL!!!!!!!!!!
When we start with 3 WR sets, I’d say yes.
maybe he meant start catching the ball.
Comsidering his compeition is going to be more then likely Huff, yes i wouldnt mind him starting. He has flaws, but his numbers are equal to very solid #2 WR numbers.
Keep in mind who our current group of WRs are. I think i would even want Givens over Huff if Huff doesnt truely impress in TC
I know it’s April 1st, but these stories are real (I think): Joey Bosa will NOT sign with the Ravens if they draft him. Why? Because their HC is the brother of the HC of a hated rival of the school he is leaving. Wow. If the Eagles had an interest in him, I hope this gives them pause.
Additionally, The Minnesota Wild are not only leaving Minnesota for Wuhan, China, they’re leaving the NHL for the KHL. Can’t say this troubles me at all. Bettman and the intransigent NHL need to get their heads out of the sand. Ice hockey today is second only to soccer in its global fandom. Virtually all of the other countries that have professional ice hockey, play closer to the rules of international hockey, with larger rink size, where opponent skaters cannot stand in the crease, and where fighting results in immediate ejection. The NHL owners and insiders are afraid to rid a fantastic sport of “the goon element” because they believe it will equal empty seats. IMO ice hockey is the greatest spectator sport ever invented. If you are at a game or watching on TV, you cannot look away…except for the pathetic TV timeouts. If the NHL doesn’t want to lose more ground to its global competitors, it first needs to clean up its game.
That’s pretty dumb if he said that. I’ve heard he’s been slipping on boards after poor combine interviews…
I also think the Wild thing is definately April Fools…
The Bosa thing is an April Fool’s joke.
This has nothing to do with this article. Have you guys noticed that Patrick Chung, who just signed for one year/5.5 million and had a great year for the Pats, and Kurt Coleman who had a great year for the Panthers used to be Eagles and played poorly. So is it the coaching they got here (or not) ?or did they need time to develop? These were safety’s who had great years (pro bowl years) for other teams.
Each is a different case. In NE Chung plays in the box, doesn’t have to cover that much, that’s opposite to what he was expected to do here. I think Coleman is a good player, obviously playing a ball-hawking role in a much better overall defense.
Worthy of deeper analysis