Dougie Speaks

Posted: March 23rd, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 243 Comments »

Today it was Doug Pederson’s turn to meet the media. He talked for a full hour, covering all kinds of topics. There was nothing groundbreaking, but plenty of interesting nuggets.

You can watch the talk if you’re brave or have an hour to kill.

My takeaways:

TEMPO – Pederson wants to use the up-tempo style of offense. It won’t be the base offense. He’ll use huddles and work the clock at times, but he went out of his way to praise how fast the Eagles played the last 3 years. Rather than throw that away, he wants to keep it and make it part of the future. This is a very smart move. Tempo can be a weapon and the Eagles were the fastest team in the league. Don’t ignore that. Use it.

SCHWARTZ – Pederson was asked about why he hired Jim Schwartz. It sounded like SalPal was asking why Andy hired blitzing coaches (Jim Johnson, Bob Sutton) in Philly and KC while Pederson went for Schwartz, who prefers to rush 4. Pederson talked about quickly QBs get rid of the ball and that negates the blitz to a certain extent. He also talked about the fact Schwartz has done a good job of developing pass rushers over the years. There is real value in that.

Pederson could have also mentioned the fact Schwartz was the best coach available. Sometimes something as simple as that is a huge factor in who you hire. And remember that Reid settled for JJ. He initially wanted Marvin Lewis to be his DC.

DE – Pederson confirmed that Connor Barwin and Marcus Smith will play DE. Some people insist on asking about Barwin as a LB. Jim Schwartz runs a 4-3 where the DL are the most important positions. You are going to take a talented player like Barwin and put him at DE. OLB is less valued in this scheme.

As to Smith, I think we had already heard he would be at DE. I think this gives him a chance to succeed. Smith struggled with playing OLB in the 3-4. There is more thinking involved with that because you have more responsibilities. Schwartz makes things simple for the guys up front…attack. Watch this clip of Smith and you’ll him looking good off the edge, a similar look he’d have in the Eagles new defense.

There is hope. Don’t count on anything, but this new scheme puts him in a better position to succeed.

Pederson did mention the Eagles need more depth at DE. Schwartz loves to have DEs attacking in waves. You need 5 guys you believe in. Back in 2012 the Eagles had Trent Cole, Jason Babin, Darryl Tapp, Phillip Hunt and rookie Vinny Curry.

FULLBACK – The Eagles don’t have to have a full time FB, but Pederson needs someone who can handle that role if called upon. There are times he wants to run behind a lead blocker. The goal is to see if Trey Burton can handle that role. That would be ideal since it wouldn’t mean using up another roster spot. Pederson knows if the team does add a FB, the guy will have to be a STer first and foremost.

NAJEE – Someone asked Pederson what spot Najee Goode would play. My guess was WLB and sure enough that’s what DP said. Goode is a solid athlete and he’s best in space. He is a natural for WLB in this scheme. He could play in the MLB or at SAM if needed, but those aren’t his best spots.

The Eagles still have a hole at backup MLB. I’m curious to see if they fill that with a veteran or a draft pick.

TE – Doug Pederson, like most if not all offensive coaches, is delusional. He was asked about the TEs and praised Brent Celek, Zach Ertz and Burton. He went on to say that the Chiefs used plenty of 3-TE sets. That’s all well and good.

But he was also asked about using Darren Sproles more on offense and said he’d like to do that. He now has a bunch of WRs to get the ball to. And he also wants to run the ball. Offensive coaches want every player to have more touches. Sounds good, but a bit unrealistic.

QB – Pederson said he wants to draft a QB, but then made it sound like pick 8 might not be a possibility. I don’t think this is pre-draft gamesmanship. I’m not sure Doug is good enough with the media right now to pull that off.

He did talk about Sam Bradford adding a few pounds and wanting a QB to have enough size to take a pounding and not get hurt. If true, that may mean the Eagles prefer Carson Wentz (240 pounds) to Jared Goff (215). Pederson noted that he won’t be going to many Pro Days. He prefers individual workouts. He also said the Eagles would likely work out the top 5 or 6 QB prospects. I don’t think he literally meant 5 or 6, but rather the top tier of guys. Could be 5 or 8 or 10. Hard to say right now.

*****

Brandon Lee Gowton put together a list of his takeaways from the talk. Be sure to check that out. BLG came up with some different things than I did. Good stuff.

*****

BGN has a report about the Eagles being thought of as a team that could move up for Wentz. This nugget comes from an NFL executive so it isn’t complete nonsense. Honestly, it wouldn’t shock me if the Eagles fell in love with a QB and did something like this. You rarely get a Top 10 pick. If you do and there’s a QB you like, it does make some sense to make the move and get a QB you believe in.

*****

This could be a very good signing. You’re a little bit nervous because the Giants had no interest in bringing him back. What do they know? Supposedly he is a poor route runner and caused more than a few INTs over the years. Is that spin or reality?

I do know that he’s young, talented and cheap. I’m willing to take a chance on a player like that. He’s also healthy. He’ll have a full offseason to learn the offense and fit in.

Low risk with possibility of solid reward.

*****

Lots of talk about Chip Kelly today. I don’t have time to write about him right now, but I’ll say that I’m disappointed that he’s continuing on with his obsession with semantics and playing the blame game. I’m losing respect for The Chipper.

Jimmy Bama offers his quick thoughts.

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243 Comments on “Dougie Speaks”

  1. 1 Dougie Speaks - said at 12:00 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor Today it was Doug Pederson’s turn to meet the media. He talked for a full hour, covering all […]

  2. 2 Sean Stott said at 12:18 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Chip Kelly, ever so passive aggressive, ever the blame shifter.

    If you didn’t get a chance to watch his coaches breakfast media session, and are a masochist you should check it out.

    Yahoo has a great write-up

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/those-bad-moves-in-philly-weren-t-chip-kelly-s-fault–says-chip-kelly-220104656.html

    The highlights:

    1. CK never had control of roster.
    2. He never talked to Howie roseman. All comms went thru manyowitz
    3. Demarco Murray and kiko were injured, that’s why they didn’t work out.
    4. His only takeaway as to what he can improve going forward is “to win more games”

    Such a coward. What a clown.

    Edit: almost forgot. Chip said the structure was luries idea and he didn’t ask for it. K.

  3. 3 John Galt said at 1:03 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    The fact that he can say with a straight face that he had nothing to do with contracts is absolutely laughable. With the contracts that howie has written this offseason there is no way he wrote those moronic deals last offseason. Chip comes off as a bad liar and bad person, his NFL run will be short lived.

  4. 4 Sean Stott said at 1:04 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    It also didn’t take a contract lawyer to do a straight up trade for McCoy/Alonso. I guess he didn’t do that either!

  5. 5 Insomniac said at 1:08 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Chip fanatics are saying that Howie did it to sabotage him. I’m somewhat glad that such fans aren’t here anymore.

  6. 6 BobSmith77 said at 1:18 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I have little doubt Roseman tried to constantly belittle/undermine Kelly where he could including mentioning his shortcomings to Lurie but this strikes me as ‘unfounded conspiracy theory.’

  7. 7 Insomniac said at 2:50 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t think Lurie needed any further explanation to see what Chip was doing to the team.

  8. 8 anon said at 1:20 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Don’t think that’s untrue .Comments made it seem like unless ck smashed the gm/coach role he was gone. If you watch his presser after Detroit I think that’s when he was fired, he was extra emotional after that game. What we didn’t know is all the other dysfunction he was bringing.

  9. 9 Henly Rodriguez said at 8:53 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I have to say that you and I share the same sentiments on Kelly’s deteriorating reputation. Everybody caught up to his lies and how he carries himself with the media. I’ve lost a lot of respect for him, sadly. Never thought I would. For a guy who loves to own the success of his methods, the lack of self reflection he encompasses when things don’t go his way is truly disheartening.

  10. 10 BobSmith77 said at 1:29 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Coward/clown – No. Just an egomaniac who refuses to tell the truth even after the fact.

  11. 11 Rambo said at 1:37 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Originally I was rooting for him to succeed as a coach, even if not here in Philly. Bad sign for him if he can’t take responsibility of his own actions and mistakes. That’s how you grow. Looking forward to seeing our new squad take flight!

  12. 12 Toby_yboT said at 12:19 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    This was a breakfast talk? All of this is great but what I really want to know is what he had for breakfast? Most important meal of the day. Better be a farmers breakfast. Eggs. Bacon. Sausage. Fried potatoes. Flapjacks. I need specifics.

  13. 13 Jack Waggoner said at 3:05 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Cheese omelette, side of bacon, and coffee

  14. 14 RC5000 said at 12:25 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Cont’d from old thread we’ll see if we can keep it going. Greg started an Impromptu forum mock draft. I’ll pick #1, next replier picks #2, and so forth. Obviously, no trades. Has to be at least 5 picks before a replier can make another pick if they’ve already made one.

    With the #1 overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi.

    Oakland Raiders are on the clock at #14

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB

  15. 15 SamoanEagle said at 1:11 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB

  16. 16 RC5000 said at 1:32 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Los Angeles Rams are on the clock with the 15th pick. I am out for a while so just keep going. Maybe announce next pick after you make your pick. Here’s the order for rest of 1st re.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles –
    16. Detroit –
    17. Atlanta –
    18. Indianapolis –
    19. Buffalo –
    20. New York Jets-
    21. Washington –
    22. Houston –
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  17. 17 Jack Waggoner said at 2:08 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    If I am LA I run to the podium and select Lynch

  18. 18 D3FB said at 6:27 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    DET takes Shaq Lawson.

    ATL is on the clock.

  19. 19 Greg Richards said at 7:57 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    With the 17th overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis –
    19. Buffalo –
    20. New York Jets-
    21. Washington –
    22. Houston –
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  20. 20 SoulBrothaNumba2 said at 8:15 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Colts select OT Jack Conklin

  21. 21 mksp said at 10:27 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    With the 19th pick, the Buffalo Bills select Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets-
    21. Washington –
    22. Houston –
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  22. 22 RC5000 said at 11:22 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    With the 20th pick, the New York Jets select Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington –
    22. Houston –
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  23. 23 Jack Waggoner said at 11:44 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Washington selects Braxton Miller

  24. 24 RC5000 said at 11:49 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    The Houston Texans are on the clock.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston –
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  25. 25 RC5000 said at 1:50 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I’m closing this and making a new comment, we’ll see if we can keep it going.

  26. 26 Media Mike said at 1:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    God, Grigson still sucks.

  27. 27 Cafone said at 12:27 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    The title of that video could have also been “Marcus Smith’s Last Sack!!!”

  28. 28 TommyLawlor said at 12:32 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Hater!!!

  29. 29 BobSmith77 said at 1:37 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    He might have another sack. I would add this as ‘Marcus Smith’s Garbage Time Highlights’

  30. 30 SteveH said at 12:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    This is good shit right here.

  31. 31 Greg Tulino said at 12:42 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Since the regime change the front office seems to be completely on the same page and working together to build a competitive roster. A healthy front office is refreshing.

    I could care less what Chip Kelly says at this point. That era is over. I am completely focused on the present and rooting for our team to continue to get better.

    I believe we got a little deeper today at the WR position. Randle is not going to be a difference maker, but I like his size, age, and reasonable contract. I think he is better than both Miles Austin or Riley Cooper.

    One last thought on Doug Pederson. The dude seems genuinely honest when he answers questions. I believe he is very determined to make the most out of this opportunity to be a head coach and I am really rooting for him to do well. Of course all that really matters is winning and getting this team into contention to win the super bowl. None of us have any clue right now if DP will be a good H/C, but so far I like what I have seen and heard from him.

    As a passionate Eagles fan I reserve the right to rip the crap out of Pederson if/when he does anything wrong. 🙂

  32. 32 BobSmith77 said at 1:27 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t understand why the Eagles deserve so much credit for that when that is generally considered a basic competence of any professional sports franchise.

    I agree Pederson is honest and probably too candid for his own good right now. Also gives one of the worst press conferences I have heard a pro coach give in a while.

    Pederson just been very underwhelming in his press conferences. Struggles to answers questions especially in a succinct or timely manner, tends to meander a bit in his responses, and generally doesn’t seem comfortable at all speaking publicly.

    Don’t think you can read much into it either way into how he’ll do as a head coach but it doesn’t do much to dispel my concerns about handling the offensive play calling in addition to head coaches either as a new coach.

  33. 33 Greg Tulino said at 1:41 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I agree that they do not deserve credit for operating the front office competently. They certainly were headed in the wrong direction from a front office standpoint last year. That dysfunction was very unhealthy. Correcting that had to be done and as I mentioned is refreshing. Time will tell if he is a good HC or not. I am planning to give him the chance to prove to all Eagles fans that he was the right choice.

  34. 34 BobSmith77 said at 2:00 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Yeah. There has been a fair amount of criticism of Pederson’s press conferences so far and how it is somehow indicative of his ability as a head coach. Must of it is just idle speculation based on a handful of conversations.

    It just might be a case of where Pederson struggles in front of a larger audience. Manuel gave generally awful post-game press conferences that bordered on incoherence at times.

    When you listened to him do one-on-one interviews though, he came off very differently. Just was nervous and uncomfortable speaking in front of a room full of reporters who were peppering him with questions.

  35. 35 BobSmith77 said at 1:36 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Calling Randel talented is a stretch. He serviceable and plays within himself which is more than you could say about Cooper/Austin last year. Like a few other guys the Eagles brought in this offseason.

    Giants’ fans weren’t sad to see him go and he got labeled as a ‘bust’ by some on WFAN. Expected a lot more out of him playing with Beckham and with a quality QB in E. Manning. Just never really delivered.

  36. 36 RC5000 said at 1:52 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I’m not saying he’s necessarily even a starter if every WR is healthy or Randle is great. But I think Giants fans are comparing him to OBJ and Cruz. They’re spoiled at WR. I get he was a little enigmatic, he has some issues.

    I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he’s talented. He had 48 catches for first downs two seasons ago and almost 1,000 yards. When Maclin was a 2 he wasn’t much more productive.
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12579/jeremy-maclin

    Randle has made a couple one handed catches. He scored 8 TDs last year. 6 of 8 in last half (maybe he got healthier and he’s like Sam ). Eagles fans used to complain about Maclin next to Jackson.

  37. 37 BobSmith77 said at 2:05 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    He also was noted as having various issues with different members of the Giants’ coaching staff the past 2 years too.

    Hard to be that be critical of the deal itself and the Eagles did need more proven depth there. Hopefully it lights a bit of a fire too under Agholor as they compete for the stating job opposite Matthews.

    Can’t imagine Randle signed here unless he was given some assurances he would have a chance to win a starting job next year out of camp.

  38. 38 Jernst said at 9:48 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    He’s got a lot of incentives built in. In fact, the majority of his contract is incentives. He can go from making $1M this year to $3M if he hits all his benchmarks. Plus the dude just turned 24. He’s super young. Came out of college as a 20 year old true Junior. He certainly has time for the light to go on so to speak

  39. 39 Jernst said at 9:46 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I think expectations have a lot to do with how a fan base reacts to certain players. If Randle had been brought in as an undrafted FA and ended up providing almost 1000 yards and 8 TDs receiving they’d all love the guy, but because he was taken relatively high (2nd round pick) and was almost immediately thrust into a starting role with high expectations he’s a bum for not being a star.

    It’s the old Mike Mamula problem. If we drafted him in the third round and he gave us 5-9 sacks per season for 5 years he wouldn’t be everyone’s favorite player but he also wouldn’t be talked about like a total bust with such hatred. Coming in as anywhere from our third to fifth WR and playing special teams for $1M this year is a great deal. Just like signing Mamula to a vet minimum deal and having him be a rotational pass rusher wouldn’t have been a bad deal.

  40. 40 laeagle said at 2:27 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    He’s unquestionably a talented receiver. He was a pretty interesting talent coming out in the draft (I really wanted us to get him), and still flashes that talent.

    Calling him anything else (a quality receiver, consistent, reliable, etc.) is a stretch; talented is pretty much the one thing you can say about him. Doesn’t mean he’ll be a good NFL player, but the talent is there.

    And I think someone needs a hug. You’ve been hitting the Debby Downer beat a little hard there with some of your posts.

  41. 41 eagleyankfan said at 8:08 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    oh, that makes a lot of sense. He’s talented but is having a hard time in the NFL? If he had any indication of “talent” the Giants would have kept him.

  42. 42 Will:Howie is Nino Brown said at 8:17 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Like we kept T.O.?

  43. 43 eagleyankfan said at 8:18 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    should have….why was he young and talented? TO helped carry that team to a SB. The last wr in Philly to do that was?

  44. 44 Jernst said at 8:23 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Semantics…but I think you can have talent but still not be a productive player. Ernie Sims had tons of talent. There’s a reason he was taken high in the first round and it’s not just because the Lions are idiots. But that talent never translated. He wasn’t a good football player despite all his natural ability or talent. Some players that have little natural talent and are great football players. Some talented players struggle. Some of them turn it around and become productive, others, like Sims, just are never able to be good. Taking a low risk high reward position on a guy like Randel is a good idea he’s got the ability, maybe he turns it on finally.

  45. 45 eagleyankfan said at 8:29 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I know it’s semantics. Wouldn’t every NFL player than be considered talented?

  46. 46 Jernst said at 9:25 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Talented compared to normal humans…yes. Talented compared to other NFL players not necessarily. Kurt Coleman is a decent NFL starting safety on one of the NFLs best defenses. He’s actually pretty good at certain things too despite what we remember of him and he’s deficient in other areas. But, his main deficiency is something he’ll never be able to change. He’s simply not “talented” enough to ever be elite. He’s too small and too slow. He lacks natural talent. He’s made up for it by being a great football player and using his mind, but there’s little chance he suddenly gets better.

    Randle is 6’3″ 210 pounds and runs a 4.5. Not eye popping Calvin Johnson numbers but certainly he’s got natural God given talent or traits that most people don’t have. He was the number 1 WR at a major college program as a junior at LSU, but came out early and was considered a bit of a project with high upside. He has yet to develop other types of talents specific to being a WR like route running, but (again with semantics) I think you’d call them more skills than talents. If Randle ever learns how to properly play the position he’s got plenty of talent to be a really good NFL WR.

  47. 47 laeagle said at 11:37 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I find it hard to believe that the concept of a talented player who couldn’t cut it in the NFL is so hard for you to grasp. It’s quite common; just ask any recent Heisman winner.

  48. 48 eagleyankfan said at 8:07 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I’ve come to the conclusion — if you’re an nfl player — no matter how horrible you play, T-Law will label him as “talented”.

  49. 49 eagleyankfan said at 8:15 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    “This nugget comes from an NFL executive so it isn’t complete nonsense.” — and we know 100% this came from an NFL Exec? We also know this “exec” is giving his opinion because he’s so in tune with the Eagles? Or was he simply stating the obvious?
    ….
    according to PFT – Robinson reiterates the Titans are open to trading the top pick. Wait a minute. An NFL exec said the Eagles can move up to get Wentz. It’s all coming together. The plan is revealed in March.

  50. 50 Dave said at 8:26 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    “Don’t be surprised if a team like the Eagles makes a really strong move up the board to get Wentz.” Lance Zierlein

    It’s a sad day when Tommy is giving credence to a report based on speculation of what a team might do.

  51. 51 eagleyankfan said at 8:35 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t mind the reporting of it. He did say it “isn’t complete nonsense”. I’m simply saying — how does he know?
    …..
    This time of the year — every exec is saying something. So is every GM/Coach etc etc. It’s just talk.

  52. 52 Dave said at 9:40 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    That’s why I quoted the original report. Zierlein is speculating, not based off sources, but based off the point of getting his name in the headlines. If Zierlein would have said, “according to my sources” or “according to what I’m hearing” as his lead in, it might be credible.

  53. 53 A_T_G said at 10:26 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    If you are only interested in 100% verified information from documented sources with confirmed credentials, you might want to step away for the next month.

  54. 54 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:20 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    For an outsider coming to play sports in this city, the worst thing you can do is refuse to take accountability for your own shit… That weasel behavior will never be tolerated here for very long… As infuriating as an Andy Reid press Confrence was, he always took the bullets for the entire team, even if it wasn’t Andys fault, and I gotta respect that..
    ..
    If you want to make it in Philly, show you care, play your ass off, be accountable for your mistakes… If you don’t have that in you, probably won’t be working in philly for too long

  55. 55 mksp said at 10:32 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    These outsiders should look to you as a shining example of being accountable, clearly.

  56. 56 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:28 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I hate adding any rejects from our rivals, but to complain about giving 500mil in GUARENTEED money to a #5 WR is absurd..
    ..
    Solid signing for what it is… Probably shouldnt expect Gamebreaking ability on Sunday… can be cut if we don’t like what we see in camp. Other then the fact that to he is a dirty Giant, this isn’t a move to be so upset about
    ..
    he could end up being our #5 WR.. I don’t think that many teams have #5 WRs that outclass this giant scum

  57. 57 eagleyankfan said at 8:38 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t mind the signing. We need camp bodies too. Wonder if this limits the number of WR drafted. Maybe they only draft 1 in later rounds?
    ….
    it’ll be interesting to see if JM can handle the outside. If not – who moves to the outside?

  58. 58 anon said at 11:00 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    i’d almost want to draft a wr even higher, don’t want to have to spend that extra 2.5m

  59. 59 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:10 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    We came into this offseason with 3 WR on the roster. We were never going to draft 3 WR’s obviously… We signed givens, I thought we would have traded for one, but signing Rueban is fine, especially since Givens and Randle DONT stop us from having to draft another WR. I assume we take a WR somewhere between rounds 4-6( round 3 at the earliest)… And sigń 2 or 3 Undrafted WRs as camp bodies,.
    ..
    Removing my hatred for signing players from our Rivals, 8 TDs last year ISNT anything to scoff at… shiiiit Id be thrilled if we get a TD catch every other game from Randle… I like that Randle has been durable, and I really like that he is forced to perform if he wants to make some real money with the incentives in his deal… I also like that Randle and Givens have experience but are still young players who theoretically could still improve.. We struck out with Steve Smith and Miles Austin, hopefully the 3rd time signing a rival WR will end up being the charm and Randle ends up bringing some value to our team…but what I really like is 500k GUARENTEED, we can easily cut his ass if we don’t like what we see in Camp from him

  60. 60 Patrick said at 9:01 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Jesus fucking christ, I have very little hopes about Randle, but you’re acting like our WR corps isn’t Jordan Matthews and then fucking Huff, Agholor and Givens. I’ll take a risky chance with a young player for that contract, when we’re so completely depleted for talent at that position.

    Randle is the second best WR on the roster currently, arguable not because he is good, but simple because the other players aren’t. We can talk about his shortcoming all we want, but lets not forget that a player with those shortcomings destroys the production of our own players.

    At 24, the argument for Agholor or Huff developing and improving, Randle could just as easily break out, since lets be honest our own picks haven’t show shit but borderline flashes of not blowing.

  61. 61 A_T_G said at 10:23 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    “borderline flashes of not blowing”

    That is a backhanded compliment with a full windup.

  62. 62 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:53 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Wtf? Did you miss my post about it not being a signing we should be complaining about?

  63. 63 Dan said at 9:23 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    500 million is a lot of money though, we could get any wr cheaper than that

  64. 64 xmbk said at 9:31 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Why was Kelly still talking about the Eagles? Let’s see:

    Pete Carroll walked up to his table this morning, saw huge crowd around Chip Kelly, shook his head and laughed. “Poor guy.”
    — Sheil Kapadia (@SheilKapadia) March 23, 2016

    “a verbal brawl of sorts between Kelly and the [Philadelphia] media he
    thought he had escaped after his late-season firing by the Eagles …
    It took only until the second question of the session before the Philly
    media commandeered Kelly, asking what he gleaned from the “autopsy” of
    his Eagles stint …”

    Lurie comes from show business, lots of signs that he’s more concerned with affection from Philly (good luck with that), than he is with winning a SB. Imagine if Kraft had the same attitude.

  65. 65 RobNE said at 10:34 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    wow that last paragraph. That’s a hot take.

  66. 66 anon said at 10:59 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    non sequitor, i was wondering what it had to do with the first para.

  67. 67 laeagle said at 11:35 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Nothing but what any random, totally baseless conjecture has with any other statement.

  68. 68 RobNE said at 11:36 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    how do you feel about tomorrow night?

  69. 69 laeagle said at 11:37 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    No idea; I really don’t follow college basketball at all. Or any college sports. But I’ve got a tshirt ready!

  70. 70 xmbk said at 12:16 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Step back, there’s a big picture. Lurie lets the aggressive Philly press influence/dictate far too many of his decisions. Worry about football, win games and you’ll win the fans.

  71. 71 xmbk said at 9:35 AM on March 25th, 2016:

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/3/24/11289036/eagles-owner-jeffrey-lurie-we-needed-to-dissect-chips-future

  72. 72 Ray888 said at 10:47 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    More concerned with spin/PR than accuracy/truth.

  73. 73 izzylangfan said at 10:11 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Yes, you are quite right about Chip Kelly. We can see now that his huge ego made him something of a loose cannon. He couldn’t work with others, shifts blame, can’t admit his mistakes, and totally had no self control as a GM. That said he was brilliant in some ways and the Eagles have done well not to discard all of his innovations. That is why I was glad to see Doug Pederson indicate that he would retain to some degree the up tempo offense. The problem Kelly had with it was that his offense was so inefficient in 2015 that he ended up depleting his own defense. But you could see that the up tempo offense caught opposing defenses off guard and tired out their players. Pederson is correct to mix it in instead of using it all the time. This way defenses not be expecting it as much and it will have more surprise value. The no huddle can prevent defensive substitutions and garner penalties for too many men on the field ala Aaron Rodgers if the QB can be aware. But I do have some concerns. First Kelly used to say that the Eagles do not have an up tempo offense rather they are an up tempo team. Thus it takes a total commitment to achieve what you want. Can Pederson achieve a successful uptempo offense without that total commitment. In addition there is one Kelly innovation that I’m not sure that the Eagles are keeping. That is the use of a communications and expert to craft codes to simplify play calling and get the plays in quickly.

    Your comment on Marcus seem a bit odd to me. What I remember about Smith is that of the three basic skills needed for an OLB in the 3-4: cover, tackle and rush — it was the pass rush where he was the weakest. The video you have was his only sack in two years.

  74. 74 Jernst said at 10:24 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    I completely agree with you on the simplified coded play calls from the sideline. That’s the one thing that Belichick was really interested from Kelly and has adopted into his offense. I just can’t help but think that Pederson is going to have the same clock management issues as Reid given how KC’s season ended and his continued defense of their lethargic late game approach coupled with the silly and inefficient method of him calling the plays into the OC who then relays the info to the QB. Just wasted motion/time.

    I think the thing with the shortened verbiage though has a lot to do with the diminished playbook. I’m sure there’s only so many plays and variations you can have if all the play calls are one word. So maybe they can use the Kelly method of calling plays in 2minute drill situations and stay with Pedersons slower but preferred method at other times when they’re huddling.

    As for being an up tempo organization. I think that’s necessary if you want to operate like Chip does where you’re going up tempo all game every game. You need to be supremely conditioned on both sides of the ball to do that. Turning it on in certain situations and/or against certain opponents while huddling the majority of the time probably requires a lot less organizational commitment. The hurry up was not invented by Chip Kelly. The early 90s Bills the Browns in the 80s, a few other teams here and there all ran predominantly up tempo hurry up offenses that didn’t huddle. And, they were able to do so without running cockamamie vertigo inducing practices with blaring music and constant motion with no teaching being done on the field.

  75. 75 RobNE said at 10:33 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    wait, when the HC calls the plays rather than just call the plays, he calls the plays to the OC who then calls the play into the QB? wth does it work that way?

  76. 76 Jernst said at 10:44 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Yea…I always assumed that that’s how most HC’s who called their own plays did it too. But, recently at a press conference Pederson said that Andy always would call the plays into him and he’d relay the message to the QB, and that that was his preferred method as well. He said his plan was that he would call the plays, radio them in to Frank Reich who he said would be standing on the sideline with him, and then Reich would relay the play call to Bradford. He said he liked that method because the QB was used to the OC calling in the plays during practice (as if you couldn’t just practice with the HC calling the plays) and then some vague explanation about how it ensures you don’t call the wrong play.

  77. 77 anon said at 10:56 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    that’s a little weird. chip was crazy but some of the stuff he did made sense.

  78. 78 A_T_G said at 12:00 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Chain of command, soldier. Chip can’t be seen communicating directly with the grunts.

  79. 79 laeagle said at 11:34 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    Smith had 14.5 sacks his senior year, so it’s not like he had no pass rush ability.

  80. 80 Fufina said at 12:26 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Well as a smith fan predraft, most of those sacks were where he just ran around guys, or they schemed stunts where he was pretty much clean to the QB. He showed huge agility and athletic ability but really lacked any strength or advanced pass rush moves when actually engaged with a tackle.

    His projection was that if he could learn those skills he could be an elite pass rusher, and an excellent OLB since he had all the other skills to cover players and to set the edge.

    However he seems to have been unable to get to grips with processing all those different responsibilities in a Billy Davis defense (which to be fair is very complex and multi skilled for an OLB). So if he is just passing rushing he should not have those issues. Now he still has not shown a range of pass rush moves (his sack was really just being more athletically talented than then tackle). If he can develop a couple of moves, like an inside counter and a spin move to go with his speed rush he could be very good in this scheme.

    Big ifs however.

  81. 81 laeagle said at 1:51 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t disagree with any point, and that is an accurate assessment of a number of his senior year sacks. But I was trying to show that the idea that he had NO pass rush skills wasn’t true. In fact, his ability in coverage was more of a projection based on his athleticism than his pass rush, because he was a 4-3 DE in college.

  82. 82 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:50 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Don’t quit on MS2 yet…. The kid has a lot of ability and talent for our DC to try and extract from him

  83. 83 anon said at 10:58 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    damn, if we’re keeping tempo why not hire my boy Pat? Could have still had schwartz. more continuity, pat has more experience, connection w/ sam, etc.

  84. 84 ACViking said at 11:57 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    So why do you think Shurmur wasn’t invited to stay — as other assistants were?

    Particularly given that — if you believe their public remarks — Lurie, Roseman, and Pederson all wanted Bradford to be the Eagles’ QB in 2016?

  85. 85 Greg Richards said at 12:17 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    You want the starting QB and the team in general to have allegiance to the HC. Shurmur is so close to Bradford that keeping him may have undermined Pederson.

  86. 86 anon said at 12:37 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I think that’s true – plus has was more experience, worked with players and clearly not “Pederson’s guy”. Think after he didn’t get HC job sort of hard for him to stay though i think he would have been right choice from a continuity / familiarity standpoint and i really liked how he called that Giants game.

  87. 87 anon said at 11:12 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    story that league got rams to draft michael sam by promising them they wouldn’t have to do hard knocks. league also pressured other teams to not draft Ethan Westbrooks so rams could get him as udfa. westbrook on the rams, sam obviously isn’t. if this is true – who cares no heads will roll, but confirms what people think about inner workings of nfl.

  88. 88 Julescat said at 12:45 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    so the NFL is morphing into a PC social engineering project instead of a football league?

  89. 89 anon said at 1:41 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    only where it’s in their financial interest – TIME just did a report skewering the concussion/CTE study they’ve been relying on.

  90. 90 laeagle said at 1:52 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Are you referring to the NYT article? I’ve heard about that one and supposedly the NFL has already issued a rebuttal. Which was read by Goodell while his nose grew and grew…

  91. 91 anon said at 2:59 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    yup – didn’t read though, headline fit into my narrative.

  92. 92 RobNE said at 11:41 AM on March 24th, 2016:

    http://www.phillyvoice.com/chip-kelly-delusional-about-his-offense-philly/

    ok I liked the Mona Lisa Vito reference at the end.

  93. 93 Greg Richards said at 12:30 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Adam Schefter
    ‏@AdamSchefter

    5m5 minutes ago

    Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins’ QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.

    Me: I’d still mock a QB to Cleveland at #2.

  94. 94 Julescat said at 12:43 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    RG3 is a seat holder

  95. 95 RC5000 said at 1:34 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Every Browns QB is a seat holder.

  96. 96 Jack Waggoner said at 1:43 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Needs an update
    https://twitter.com/BrokawInc/status/672117831320920064

  97. 97 Jack Waggoner said at 1:52 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Pederson is 3rd on the jersey tape, 4th if you count Couch on the original jersey.

  98. 98 Media Mike said at 1:37 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    50/50 that is true. If Hue has final say; you’re correct. If Haslem is still making all of the final calls; RG3 might be there to start for a while.

  99. 99 Jack Waggoner said at 1:15 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    It’s official now. Will be interesting to see if they still want to go QB at #2.

  100. 100 anon said at 1:30 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    you building a franchise around RGIII? Think they feel like they need to develop a guy. RGIII will be hurt by game 7, rookie starts.

  101. 101 Media Mike said at 1:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    That all depends on what Haslem tells Hue and the two nerds what they’re allowed to draft.

  102. 102 Jack Waggoner said at 1:49 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Sure you take that into account, as you would with Bradford. But it still depends on how much you like these QBs.

  103. 103 Media Mike said at 1:34 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    We’ll see what Jimmy wants there. I’d still agree that a long term QB starter is 100% in play, but don’t rule out them taking Elliot or Bosa.

  104. 104 SteveH said at 12:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    It’s going to be fun to watch Chip crash and burn in SanFran. He’ll probably get the Browns job after that, the last place that will take him.

  105. 105 Jack Waggoner said at 1:20 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Houston is on the clock, someone needs to make a selection

    (Mock way way down in the comments if you’re sorting by newest)

  106. 106 RC5000 said at 1:55 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I posted a newer comment now. If it confuses anyone sorry but it was dying.

  107. 107 RC5000 said at 1:41 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/713056715273551875

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/713058188027904001

  108. 108 Media Mike said at 1:42 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Jimmy calls all shots.

  109. 109 Mac said at 3:07 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    No need to take Wentz @ 2 now (snicker).

  110. 110 Media Mike said at 3:12 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    You honestly have to consider all types of nonsense in play with Cleveland at this point.

  111. 111 RC5000 said at 1:52 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    The Houston Texans are on the clock.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston –
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –

    31. Denver –

  112. 112 ACViking said at 1:57 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Houston Texans . . .

    How ’bout that Corey Coleman from Baylor.

  113. 113 RC5000 said at 2:00 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    The Minnesota Vikings are on the clock with 23rd pick

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota –
    24. Cincinnati –
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –

    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  114. 114 the DONALD said at 3:04 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    keep the WR train going.. … WR Josh Doctson, TCU.. help teddy out.

  115. 115 Media Mike said at 3:15 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    With the 24th pick, the Cincinnati Bungles select……Robert Nkemdiche DT

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh –
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  116. 116 D3FB said at 3:34 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Fine Steelers take Darian Thompson.

  117. 117 Media Mike said at 3:37 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Seattle on the clock………..

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh – Darian Thompson S
    26. Seattle –
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  118. 118 ACViking said at 3:44 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Seattle . . .

    Noah Spence, OLB/DE – Eastern KY

  119. 119 Media Mike said at 3:47 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Green Bay – on the clock.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh – Darian Thompson S
    26. Seattle – Noah Spence OLB/DE
    27. Green Bay –
    28. Kansas City –
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  120. 120 RC5000 said at 3:54 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Green Bay takes A’Shawn Robinson, DT Alabama
    Chiefs on the clock.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh – Darian Thompson S
    26. Seattle – Noah Spence OLB/DE
    27. Green Bay – A’Shawn Robinson, DT
    28. Kansas City –

    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  121. 121 FA57 said at 4:12 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Chiefs take OT Taylor Decker, OSU.

    Cardinals on the clock.

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh – Darian Thompson S
    26. Seattle – Noah Spence OLB/DE
    27. Green Bay – A’Shawn Robinson, DT
    28. Kansas City –

    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.

    29. Arizona –
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  122. 122 nevadausa16 said at 4:15 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Arizona selects DE/OLB Kevin Dodd, Clemson

  123. 123 RC5000 said at 4:18 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Carolina is on the clock

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh – Darian Thompson S
    26. Seattle – Noah Spence OLB/DE
    27. Green Bay – A’Shawn Robinson, DT
    28. Kansas City – Taylor Decker, OT

    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.

    29. Arizona – Kevin Dodd, DE
    30. Carolina –
    31. Denver –

  124. 124 Greg Richards said at 4:24 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    With the 30th overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers select William Jackson III, CB, Houston.

  125. 125 D3FB said at 4:26 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    And the Broncos cap it off with Hunter Henry TE Arkansas

    ELWAY GETS NO QB AND HE WILL LIKE IT!

  126. 126 Media Mike said at 4:27 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    With Kubiak and a starting QB who won’t throw the ball more than 15 yards down the field……………. ROOKIE OF THE YEAR WITH 120 CATCHES

  127. 127 ACViking said at 4:28 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    MM –
    sweet

  128. 128 D3FB said at 4:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Part of me wanted to give them Vernon Adams just to make you mad.

    <3

  129. 129 Media Mike said at 4:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Did John Elway start smoking crack like Rob Ford?

  130. 130 D3FB said at 4:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    RIP

  131. 131 Media Mike said at 4:27 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Josh Norman insurance. I like it.

  132. 132 Media Mike said at 4:19 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Nice

  133. 133 A_T_G said at 4:22 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Andy can never get enough tackles – Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State.

  134. 134 Media Mike said at 4:23 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I personally would have given them Whitehair.

  135. 135 D3FB said at 4:24 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Agreed, mainly because I don’t know who the hell Jarrod Pughsley is.

    Pretty sure Ourlads is just using madden to create player names.

  136. 136 ACViking said at 4:23 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    late to the party . . .

    Decker’s already been drafted.

    By the Chiefs.

  137. 137 Media Mike said at 4:26 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Yes. By Andy Reid.

  138. 138 A_T_G said at 4:27 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Wait, what? I am very confused.

  139. 139 A_T_G said at 4:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Nevermind, I see it now. I didn’t show more comments and thought i was at the end.

    It is reassuring someone else made the same pick.

  140. 140 D3FB said at 3:20 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Minnesota- Darian Thompson S Boise State.

  141. 141 Media Mike said at 3:20 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Too slow! You need to make Pittsburgh’s CB pick.

  142. 142 RC5000 said at 2:07 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    So sad guys R.I.P.

    Kevin Turner, former Crimson Tide, NFL star, dead after ALS battle

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/03/kevin_turner_former_crimson_ti.html

  143. 143 RC5000 said at 2:25 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/JoePanos1/status/713068181548433408

  144. 144 RC5000 said at 2:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/donovanjmcnabb/status/713068342035226625

  145. 145 anon said at 2:58 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Best DM tweet since…ever.

  146. 146 A_T_G said at 4:13 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    And it is still the most awkward of the bunch.

  147. 147 RC5000 said at 2:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/MarkMcMillian29/status/713071037022343168

  148. 148 RC5000 said at 3:05 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Kevin Turner’s son Nolan who plays safety recently signed to play with Clemson.

    And recently, it came from an old friend, Clemson coach Dabo Swinney, who himself understands a thing or two about hardship. Swinney is someone equally anchored in his faith who can appreciate the role of the underdog, someone with whom Turner shared a dream of playing for the Crimson Tide.

    He even credits Kevin for enabling him to survive his early years on Alabama’s scout team.

    “Dabo tells the story of how he got to know Kevin well when they were practicing and a big ’ol linebacker was about to jump on Dabo,” Raymond Turner said. “Somebody came out of the blue and cleaned him out, and it was Kevin. He said: ‘Son you better pick on somebody your own size if you’re gonna do that.’ Dabo always credits Kevin with saving his life.”

    http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/football/2016/02/03/turner-entrusting-son-swinneys-care-clemson/79759964/

  149. 149 RC5000 said at 3:21 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Turner spent five seasons as a Philadelphia Eagles fullback from 1995 to 1999, playing in 58 games. Turner played with SportsRadio 94WIP’s own Ike Reese and Hollis Thomas, as well as current Eagles’ head coach Doug Pederson and former quarterback Donovan McNabb.

    “He taught me a lot because he was back there on the wedge with me, on kickoff return,” Thomas said of Turner on the 94WIP Josh Innes Show.

    “I saw him last year, he wasn’t looking good. It just kind of hits home because it’s a guy you went to battle with.”

  150. 150 RC5000 said at 3:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/WhelanABC3340/status/713084838807531522

  151. 151 Joe Minx said at 2:56 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Wentz hype machine out of control

    https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/713034514998566913

  152. 152 anon said at 2:58 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    hahah, yuck

  153. 153 ACViking said at 2:59 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Brandt must have missed Bradford’s Pro Day.

    Oh, and JaMarcus Russell’s, too.

    A QB’s Pro Day performance clearly protends NFL ultadociousness.

  154. 154 Ark87 said at 4:41 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Probably, but to be fair, In that tweet, he only says it’s the best he’s witnessed (implied: in person), then compared him to a super bowl winning (but mediocreish) QB. While he (probably purposely for attention) contributed to the hype wave, the unspoken rule is that pro days don’t mean much, hell, college *careers* aren’t a great predictor for nfl success.

  155. 155 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:27 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Thankfully our HC Wasnt even in attendance. Id rather Dougie work him out privately,instead of having his opinion influenced by a pro day.
    ..
    Unfortunately it doesn’t take a great NFL QB to have a great pro day performance

  156. 156 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t understand this stupid rumor about the Eagles trading up to #2 for a QB… If the Browns ARENT going to draft a QB(which I don’t believe will be the case), why the hell would we want to pay the cost of moving up to #2, when the next threat to take a QB is San Fran at #7? Want a QB that bad? Just leap frog the Niners, swap pick with the Ravens which is much cheaper, If the Ravens ARENT taking a QB at 6, and they know we want to trade up for a QB, if the niners also take a QB the Ravens can literally accept any compensation from us to swap picks and still draft the sameplayer they were gonna take with the #6 pick..
    .
    Trading up to #2 ONLY makes sense if you want to draft someone that the Chargers or Cowboys plan on taking with the #3 and #4 pick….
    ..
    If clowns want to make up rumors, at least come up with something that makes some kind of sense…

  157. 157 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Liked hearing from Dougie that he plans on having some LIVE sessions in training camp which we haven’t had in years… Can’t be old school and have your playërs beat the crap out of each other all summer, but I do like that he values a few live periods where guys can be judged on actual tackling, and have some live periods to Work on our run game which is all about Physicality.
    .
    I don’t want to over do it and see Eagles tackle each other every day this summer, but I think it will be good for us to sprinkle in some live action this summer….especially for the new coaches first training camp. If he goes by the Andy Reid HC blueprint, the first training camp will be the toughest… andy was hard on the guys in 1999, allegedly he was obssessed with talking about Chopping his players balls off that first training camp as Eagles HC….
    ..
    Of course, Id probably feel a little different if guys start dropping like flies getting injured all summer… But if he can find a Balance between kicking our players ass all summer, but still practice smart and keep injuries to a minimum, that would be great

  158. 158 Media Mike said at 3:49 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Can he have them at a college campus with easy access by the public?

    Start rocking it at West Chester again?

  159. 159 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:00 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Be my guest, I won’t be in philly much this summer.

  160. 160 A_T_G said at 4:08 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Back at Lehigh would make my day, but I doubt it. I think those days are gone.

  161. 161 Media Mike said at 4:14 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    That is too far from HQ. It beats having prison camp at Nova Care. But we’re really only interested in Main Line / Chester County locations. Widener would also be ok again.

  162. 162 D3FB said at 4:15 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    North Penn. Let Doug feels comfortable in a high school environment

  163. 163 Media Mike said at 4:16 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Still too far from HQ. Nova works. Radnor has a lot of fields and easy access from 476, 30, and 320.

  164. 164 D3FB said at 4:17 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Don’t let the stench of Radnor rub off on the birds.

  165. 165 ACViking said at 4:17 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    How ’bout Bader Field in AC?

    Home of the ACVikings

  166. 166 D3FB said at 4:18 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Report: All the Eagles are now broke, and 10 got arrested for having too much fun.

  167. 167 ACViking said at 4:18 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Coach –

    Goodell’s talking about an NFL team in Vegas now.

    Talk about a disaster waiting to happen.

  168. 168 D3FB said at 4:21 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I don’t believe there is a link between the Vegas Raiders and all these dead hookers.

    Also the Earth, it’s super flat.

    -Jerry Jones circa 2020

  169. 169 ACViking said at 4:22 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    A Belichick golden nugget.

  170. 170 Media Mike said at 4:22 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Or circa 2120 when they’re still keeping him alive in one of those head tanks from Futurama.

  171. 171 D3FB said at 4:23 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Him and Nixon. Talking about the gloryhole days.

  172. 172 A Roy said at 7:35 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    “Ain’t never had too much fun.”

  173. 173 A_T_G said at 4:34 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Too far from your headquarters, maybe. Just perfect from mine.

  174. 174 Media Mike said at 4:35 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    http://cdn.meme.am/instances/42100868.jpg

  175. 175 D3FB said at 4:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    However will he afford that on the salary of a meager fur trapper?

  176. 176 ACViking said at 4:39 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    The same way John Jacob Astor did — volume.

  177. 177 ACViking said at 4:08 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Here’s what a certain someone wrote about how great Chip Kelly’s
    “no tackling” approach in Training Camp was:

    “I love that our coaches can get guys to improve their tacking (we were the 6th best tackling team last year) without tackling to the ground….wonder how long it will be before the dinosaur Andy Reid stops having his players tackle to the ground…”
    http://igglesblitz.com/2014/07/hitting-time/#disqus_thread
    ___________

    Both have their benefits, perhaps.

  178. 178 mksp said at 5:55 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    “I can’t change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination.”

  179. 179 Media Mike said at 4:31 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Official mock draft results from our group. Great work and thank you to whoever started it!

    1. Tennessee – Laremy Tunsil, OT
    2. Cleveland – Carson Wentz , QB
    3. San Diego – Jalen Ramsey, DB
    4. Dallas – Ezekiel Elliott , RB
    5. Jacksonville – Myles Jack, OLB
    6. Baltimore – Joey Bosa, DE/OLB
    7. San Francisco – DeForest Buckner, DE/DT
    8. Eagles – Jared Goff, QB
    9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB
    10. NY Giants – Ronnie Stanley, OT
    11. Chicago – Darron Lee, LB
    12. New Orleans – Laquon Treadwell, WR
    13. Miami – Mackensie Alexander , CB
    14. Oakland – Eli Apple, CB
    15. Los Angeles – Paxton Lynch, QB
    16. Detroit – Shaq Lawson, DE
    17. Atlanta – Sheldon Rankins, DT
    18. Indianapolis – Jack Conklin, OT
    19. Buffalo – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE
    20. New York Jets- Leonard Floyd, OLB
    21. Washington – Braxton Miller, WR
    22. Houston – Corey Coleman, WR
    23. Minnesota – Josh Doctson WR
    24. Cincinnati -Robert Nkemdiche DT
    25. Pittsburgh – Darian Thompson S
    26. Seattle – Noah Spence OLB/DE
    27. Green Bay – A’Shawn Robinson, DT
    28. Kansas City – Taylor Decker, OT
    New England Patriots selection forfeited as punishment for the team’s Deflategate violations.
    29. Arizona – Kevin Dodd, DE
    30. Carolina – William Jackson III CB
    31. Denver – Hunter Henry TE

  180. 180 ACViking said at 4:31 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Great work by Greg Richards getting it started.

  181. 181 Media Mike said at 4:33 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    My favorite pick is whoever took Conklin with Indy.

    1 – Conklin sucks and will help keep getting Luck killed if they play him at LT

    2 – Grigson is stupid enough to actually do that pick, so whoever mocked that is a God.

  182. 182 ACViking said at 4:35 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    MM . . . en fuego today!

  183. 183 D3FB said at 4:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Indy has Costonzo. He has a 9.8 million cap charge. He’s not top 10 LT but he’s a billion times better than Conklin LT.

    If Grigson drafts and starts Conklin LT then Luck should retire and sue for all Jim Irsay’s prescription pads.

  184. 184 ACViking said at 4:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Belichick goes platinum.

  185. 185 Media Mike said at 4:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Grigson is a dope.

  186. 186 ACViking said at 4:36 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    MM — nice turn of phrase there

  187. 187 Media Mike said at 4:37 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Not intentional. But neither were is signings of Herremans and Cole. Oh never mind………….

  188. 188 A_T_G said at 4:33 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Greg started it. It was a lot of fun, and worked better than trying to assign people teams. Great idea.

    Of course it is complete crap now that Cleveland signed RGIII…or is it?

  189. 189 Media Mike said at 4:33 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Ask Haslem. He makes all of the calls.

  190. 190 Greg Richards said at 5:06 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Nah, RGIII signing won’t prevent them from drafting a QB at 2. He got about the same level money as Chase Daniel did.

  191. 191 Mac said at 5:10 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    You know what’s easier than trying to predict whether a QB will be drafted by Cleveland or not?

    Predicting that any QB they draft will fail.

  192. 192 D3FB said at 4:37 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Pick 214: The Patriots select a 4th string Long Snapper from Rutgers. Seattle is now on the clock.

  193. 193 ACViking said at 4:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Coach . . .

    You’re knocking ’em out of the park today.

  194. 194 Media Mike said at 4:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Pick 215……..now we’re only 100 picks away from where Boykin should go.

  195. 195 A_T_G said at 4:38 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    C’mon. You know the Pats are trading that pick to the Raiders for a third next year and a 1st in 2020.

  196. 196 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:33 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    With Chip continuing to take shots at The Eagles. I assume HOWIE and LURIE will take the high road and to not feel The need to respond stooping to chips level.. But Boy would it be great if a Camera recorded LURIE and Rosemans raw reactions behind closed doors about everything Chip has said this offseason..
    ..
    I assume Roseman will take the high road, not reveal our dirty laundry, and take the blame for anything the media asks him about…. Don’t think we will ever hear Howie’s side of his beef with chip, but hopefully someone eventually leaks the truth a few years from now

  197. 197 Jernst said at 5:48 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    We will certainly take the high road…although Lurie has surprised me recently with somethings that I wasn’t expecting from him so who knows, but my god…to be a fly on that wall in the Nova Care Complex when they saw what Chip said. That’s something I’d love to have seen.

  198. 198 ACViking said at 4:34 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Allbright tweeted a couple interesting items today.

    1. He’s hearing — FWIW — that if the 49ers pass on Goff, he could suffer Quinn-Rodgers syndrome.

    2. The Eagles are looking into Ezekiel Elliott’s off-field issues — which Allbright characterized, from sources, as “serious issues.”

  199. 199 Media Mike said at 4:35 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Note to future first round picks………. DO NOT PARTY WITH NOAH SPENCE!

  200. 200 ACViking said at 4:37 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Did Spence drop a dime on his OSU buddies?

  201. 201 Media Mike said at 4:39 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Do they sell ecstasy in “dimes?”

  202. 202 D3FB said at 4:41 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HChzRB8h6LU

  203. 203 Media Mike said at 4:42 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    My dad took that tape away from me in 7th grade. Perhaps we shouldn’t have been reciting the nursery rhymes to my 5 year old brother.

  204. 204 D3FB said at 4:43 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Jesus Christ Grandpa, Get off the internet, Country Kitchen Early Bird special is about to start.

  205. 205 Tumtum said at 5:27 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Im 30. Dice was popular in the early 90s? So Mike isn’t that much older than me.

    I’m offended.

  206. 206 Mac said at 5:28 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Apparently, your generational turnaround isn’t as quick as the D3FB household.

  207. 207 Media Mike said at 5:40 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I’m 39. That’s 1/3rd older than you!

  208. 208 Tumtum said at 8:18 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Whew

  209. 209 D3FB said at 5:22 AM on March 25th, 2016:

    I was born in 91. What’s life like in the AARP?

  210. 210 Tumtum said at 2:51 PM on March 25th, 2016:

    6 dollar matinees… THE DREAM

  211. 211 Bert's Bells said at 4:40 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Would he be the Rodgers in the scenario?

  212. 212 Media Mike said at 4:41 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    He doesn’t move well enough to be Fred Astaire.

  213. 213 Bert's Bells said at 7:03 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Hey-oo!

  214. 214 RC5000 said at 4:45 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I forgot who Quinn was for a while.

  215. 215 A_T_G said at 4:49 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Completely understandable.

    It is the medicine woman, right?

  216. 216 Jason said at 5:04 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    She read defenses better

  217. 217 Joe Minx said at 5:34 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Bravo sir.

  218. 218 botto said at 5:52 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    one of the best rock albums ever was recorded in that ladies house BTW.
    of the 90’s I guess I should say, not ever, but it’s great.

  219. 219 D3FB said at 4:46 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    If we pass on Goff. So help me. I will be inconsolable.

    http://favim.com/orig/201104/27/Favim.com-25786.jpg

  220. 220 RC5000 said at 5:10 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Just don’t Go off the deep end.

  221. 221 ACViking said at 5:12 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Nice, soft touch.

  222. 222 Jack Waggoner said at 5:30 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Guffaw

  223. 223 mksp said at 5:51 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/713036286534111233

  224. 224 RC5000 said at 5:57 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Um that’s what he was referring to lol..

  225. 225 mksp said at 9:52 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Tried to add some context with the specific tweet referenced that could possibly provide some clarity. Things have gotten real touchy around here if that’s unwelcome.

  226. 226 D3FB said at 5:22 AM on March 25th, 2016:

    I’m aware, that’s what I was making the comment in regards to. Albrights a good insider, highly doubt he’s got the Eagles pegged though.

  227. 227 ACViking said at 5:05 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Quick note.

    The Eagles organization put out a very nice press release mourning the loss of Kevin Turner.
    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Eagles-Mourn-Loss-Of-Kevin-Turner-/d980bb00-f32c-4867-8a15-da3542fabd47
    _____________

    apologies in advance if previously linked

  228. 228 Tumtum said at 5:25 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Really sad story. By all accounts seems like he was a really awesome guy.

  229. 229 Tumtum said at 5:24 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    While referring to Ruben: “Supposedly he is a poor route runner and caused more than a few INTs over the years. Is that spin or reality?”

    I sure seem to remember at least a couple times…maybe even in one game. I don’t watch much NYG… the Eagles were plenty of bad football for me this year.

  230. 230 Jack Waggoner said at 5:25 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    He’s something of a slacker

  231. 231 Mac said at 5:26 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    He’s lazy, smokes too much, and spends all his free time listening to music.

    Oh, you meant the football player.

  232. 232 Media Mike said at 5:41 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    This strikes me a BS Eli apologists trying to remove his culpability for being an INT factory by blaming the WR.

    No sale – Eli sucks.

  233. 233 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:55 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Eli certainly has his INT problems… But there have been a lot of times where you don’t even know who the hell he was trying to throw to, not being on the same page with the WR… The main culprit for these brain farts we often see in the Giants Offense is either Eli or the WR read the coverage wrong and chose the wrong option route…. He certainly has been an INT machine at times, but those plays where him and the WR are completely not on the same page is a mental mistake, reading the Defense wrong, but that’s not always automatically On the WR, I would think that there have been times when the giant WR chose the right route option, but Eli read it wrong and was the cause for not being on the same page with the WR….
    ..
    If it’s something Randle struggles with mentally, dumb it down for him and DONT give him 4 different route options

  234. 234 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:49 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    My understanding is the knock on him was Football IQ… WR’s had like 4 different route options on a given play in the Giants offense, where the WR had to read how the defense was playing him, and choose the right route option that correlates with what The defense was about to throw at him.. Allegedly he often ran the wrong route option which is what happens on those throws where you don’t even know who Eli was throwing to… It’s also possible that at times Rueban ran the correct route option, and Eli was the one who read the defense wrong, and expected Rueban to run the wrong route… Hard to exactly know how often Rueban made these types of mental mistakes..
    .l
    If it’s too much for him mentally, I would think we just use him with simple Run or pass options, instead of having to choose the right route to run out of 4 different pass options

  235. 235 Jernst said at 5:42 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I know people are tired of hearing about Chip, so I promise this is the last thing I’ll say about it…but…I’m just in awe at what an absolute A-hole Chip turned out to be.

    So let me see if I have this right…Chip gives Howie a list of who he’s decided are the “good players”, the top players in Chip’s eyes, the players he desires or needs to make his schemes work. Howie goes out and signs those players to contracts that one would expect the top available players to receive. Those players come in, are horribly misused by Chip and stink out the joint making their contracts completely unjustifiable moving forward. And, because Chip didn’t personally put pen to paper and write those contracts he thinks that absolves him of all culpability? Is he kidding?

    If Maxwell and Murray came in here and played the way Chip had evaluated them and were top notch performers, there’d be no issue with the contracts Howie handed out. No one would be complaining about Maxwell’s cap number if he was a “good player” like Chip said and was shutting down WRs and coming up with INTs, and similarly, no one would be complaining about Murrays cap number if he came in here and rushed for 1500 yards and made us all forget about LeSean McCoy.

    Howie did his job. He got the players that Chip wanted at critical positions that Chip himself had created massive holes that needed filling and made sure that their salaries fit adequately under our cap restraints while giving us enough money to lock up Cox, Bradford and a few other key contributors. Seems to me then that the problem was with the evaluation of these players prior to free agency.

    What was else was Howie supposed to do? Chip opened up huge holes at CB by cutting both starters and trading our nickel CB (not saying they didn’t deserve to be cut, just stating facts), he created a huge hole at RB when he traded our franchises all-time leading rusher for an injured LB who had missed the entire previous year, he created huge holes along the offensive line by cutting both starting guards. These holes NEEDED to be filled with someone and in most instances a significant someone just for us to have a functioning football team. We were going to have to fill a lot of those holes in FA. Chip wanted to integrate himself and his coaches into the personnel department so that they could control the evaluation and subsequent acquisition of players and get the players that they wanted/needed for their systems. Chip gives Howie the list of players that would best fill those needs and Howie delivers them to Chip. The results stink, the contracts, which were based on Chip’s evaluation of their talent level and ability to succeed in his system, become terrible burdens to the football teams ability to compete, and Chip decides to play semantics pointing out that he didn’t personally write the contracts…wow…that is some stunning side-stepping of personal accountability.

  236. 236 anon said at 5:50 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    “What was else was Howie supposed to do? Chip opened up huge holes at CB
    by cutting both starters and trading our nickel CB (not saying they
    didn’t deserve to be cut, just stating facts), he created a huge hole at
    RB when he traded our franchises all-time leading rusher for an injured
    LB who had missed the entire previous year, he created huge holes along
    the offensive line by cutting both starting guards.”

    Wouldn’t take it too far. Howie bought in fletch and sconces, boykin wasn’t as good as anyone thought, thought chip did a pretty good job of building a secondary here in one year, considering what it’s looked like recently.

    On McCoy, he had a terrible 2014, not in terms of rushing yards, but in terms of drive continuing short yardage situations and TDs, you can go read all the critical articles / analysis written. He was also expensive. Move was to replace him with Frank Gore, who would cost about 3.5m. A move Mccoy sabotaged. Kelly fumbled with Murry, BUT def weakened Cowboys and got a guy who was like 13/13 in short yardage, scored TDs, but was tragically misused, partly due to the OL not really allowing downfield running. Ryan Matthews also came here and looked like a stud, when healthy.

    On the OL. Cutting Mathis obviously dumb – CK is an ass for that, same as cutting Djax. That said Herremans was on his last leg, i think he’s retiring now. We had no depth, partly CK’s fault, but partly Howie the GM’s fault as well, guys that had been here had no talent. Again, Chip was a horrible coach and i don’t think really played to their strengths.

    Honestly, I would have given chip another year before i knew about all the other stuff that was going on – but knowing what i know now glad he was fired b/c i think he was toxic to the organization.

  237. 237 Jernst said at 6:02 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I agree with everything you wrote. I even stated above that I wasn’t arguing that the players he cut/traded didn’t deserve to be cut/traded. Fletch and Sconces were a terrible starting CB duo, and Howie should be held responsible for those signings, but that’s not at all what we’re talking about, or what Chip was talking about when he side-stepped his responsibility in the Maxwell and Murray signings.

    Regardless of whether or not those 3 CBs needed to be moved the fact is that they were moved and moved by Chip Kelly no one else and those moves resulted in glaring holes. That’s just a fact. You can’t get rid of your top 3 CBs without that leaving you pretty light at the position. Which means you need to find replacements through the draft and/or FA. Same goes for guard and RB. Cutting Mathis was stupid, but cutting Herremans was probably a year too late if anything. He needed to go. LeSean’s contract wasn’t a tenable situation and his skills seem to be rapidly diminishing as well, so moving him wasn’t a terrible idea in and of itself. But that still resulted in holes at the guard position and RB position. Guard I think is fairly obvious and at RB, at the time we traded McCoy we had Sproles and Kenjon Barner left on the roster. I’d say we had a hole at RB then too.

    Those holes needed filling and there’s only so many draft picks. It was obvious with all the cutting, trading and overhauling of the roster that we’d have to be very active in FA just to field a competitive team. Further we traded away large contracts numbers so that we could have the resources to do just that as Chip has mentioned multiple times as being the driving factor in trading McCoy and others like Cary who had high cap numbers.
    So far, thats all just facts, not opinion or going too far. Chip moved those players, those spots were now holes on the roster that needed to be filled. Howie was given a list of the best players in Chip eyes to fill those holes and he signed them to deals. Now Chip wants to make it seem like the crappy players he asked for were all Howie’s fault. What price was he expecting the contracts for the best CB on the market and the best RB on the market who had just won the rushing title last year to cost?

    You can”t tell Howie that he should sign Maxwell and Murray if he can and then get mad when he does that because you were expecting them to come in on bargain basement deals. That’s ludicrous!

  238. 238 anon said at 6:14 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    I’m saying a lot of the issues were caused by the former GM (HR). Had a lot of players (some old, some named mccoy) on exploding contracts who weren’t worth the money and didn’t necessarily want to take pay cuts. Team was in a MUCH better position talent wise after chip left, especially toward the back of the roster than when he got here and the while howie was GM even after chip arrived.

    Chip made a ton of mistakes, at the time i chalked them up to rookie mistakes now i chalk many up to hubris that is unfortunately part of his personality. But i can understand the logic behind Chip’s moves even the ones that didn’t pan out.

  239. 239 Jernst said at 6:43 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    All true…just not sure what that has to do with Chip’s comments about a specific question regarding the contracts given to Murray and Maxwell.

    I’m not so sure you can say definitively either that the roster got better throughout Chip’s tenure. Offensive line clearly had gotten much worse and much older without adequate replacements. WR went from Maclin, Jackson and Avant to Riley Cooper, Miles Austin and Jordan Matthews…I’d say that was a clear step back as well. RB went from McCoy, Bryce Brown, Chris Polk to Murray, Mathews, Sproles…I guess that could go either way, but it’s hard to say it was drastically improved. TE improved by keeping Celek and adding Ertz, but if you’re going to give Howie credit for the failures prior to 2015 you should give him the credit for the successes too and thus he’d be the responsible party for drafting Ertz (as well as Lane Johnson – remember Chip wanted Dion Jordan – who is the only Olinemen brought in under Chip that even made our line respectable last year), QB went from Vick/Foles to Bradford – that’s a push. Dline went from Trent Cole, Cox, Cullen Jenkins, Brandon Graham, Ced Thornton and Vinny Curry to Cox, Bennie Logan (another pick made under Howie), Ced Thornton – not sure that’s any better or worse. LBs went from Kendricks, DeMeco Ryans, Chaney to Kendricks, DeMeco Ryans/Hicks, Kiko, Barwin – Ok the addition of Barwin and Hicks was a definite improvement but not drastically so. CBs went from DRC, Nnamdi, Boykin to Fletcher, Williams, Boykin to Carroll, Maxwell, move Jenkins into the slot and use Maragos as a safety for nickel – definitely improved but certainly not fixed – still remains one of our biggest issues and needs. And S went from Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman to Jenkins and Thurmond who left after one year – again definite improvement.

    The best FA acquisitions over Kelly’s entire tenure were Barwin, Jenkins, Nolan Carroll and the one year we got out of Thurmond. That’s it. And the best of that bunch, Barwin and Jenkins were mainly Howie’s moves as he was the GM and it was Chip’s first year and he had literally just showed up at the Nova Care Complex when we signed them. There were trades for Sproles, Kiko and Bradford. Sproles was a home run the Kiko trade was a disaster and Bradford remains to be seen. The best draft class by far was Kelly’s first year when Howie had the most control. The worst picks were MS2 (Howie’s), Huff (Kelly’s), Hart (Kellys), Agholar (remains to be seen if he’ll rebound – but, Kelly’s). Kelly released, traded or allowed to leave in FA a good amount of players that were in their prime and still very productive, with each one of those moves the offense got progressively worse and eventually was devoid of playmakers by the time he left.

    So, for sure, the roster was no title contender when he got here and a lot of the issues that needed to be fixed were caused by Howie’s inability to stock the shelves properly before Chip even got here. But, it’s pretty clear to me that Chip took a blow torch to the whole thing and made it substantially worse over his three years here. And, ultimately, none of this has anything to do with Chips lack of accountability in discussing his role in the team signing Maxwell and Murray to big FA contracts that they failed to live up to at all.

  240. 240 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:06 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Lol I’ll never forget all the hype for Manziels pro day… Friggin Former United States President attended that joke of a pro QBs “pro day”…
    ..
    Manziel wore army Fatigue type shorts, and had Music playing…. All spectacle, no substance.
    ..
    Wonder how often NFL QBs get fired by their agent? I imagine it doesn’t happen too often. Typically the player fires the agent, not the other way around.. But Lebron and Rich Paul pulled the plug on representing johnny with the quickness

  241. 241 anon said at 6:08 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    “he might have changed the way people do pro-days”. You gotta wonder if he would have fared better in dallas.

  242. 242 Dave said at 6:29 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    Sad day to come home from a project site and read Kevin Turner passed away. Sadness overload to see Garry Shandling passed too. For those of you too young to have ever watched his show, it was ground breaking and hilarious. His theme song said it all…

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwihqLDUrtrLAhXK2R4KHRahB6gQtwIIHDAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dac8cQuEzDCQ&usg=AFQjCNFjkX7qoMEsB1k1ceuWAQjc3w8NEw&sig2=V3u6BfKFqqOhLzTnsLXDeA&bvm=bv.117604692,d.eWE

  243. 243 Rambo said at 6:53 PM on March 24th, 2016:

    https://youtu.be/UsOlG_obCoc