Posted: April 16th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 107 Comments »

Presence is the name of a great Led Zeppelin album. Achilles Last Stand is the classic song, while Hots On For Nowhere is incredibly underrated.

Okay, enough about Zep.

Presence is also a key quality with successful NFL QBs.

I remember being at the Senior Bowl in 2012. Both Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins had the presence of starting QBs. This is a mixture of confidence and awareness. You want to be confident, but not arrogant. You also know you’re “The Man”. That means treating others around you a certain way.

QBs are leaders by default. They run the huddle. They have all eyes on them, whether on or off the field. Good QBs have presence, where they come across as natural leaders and being comfortable in the spotlight.

Carson Wentz passed this test in Mobile at the Senior Bowl. He might have been a kid from North Dakota State, but if you took the helmet off him you would have guessed he was a 4-year starter at USC, Notre Dame or Alabama. He knew he was the Big Dog at the Senior Bowl this year and projected that vibe. But not in a cocky way.

This is a big selling point for Wentz in my book.

I’ve never been around Jared Goff or Paxton Lynch. Goff played at a big school and his coaches raved about him. I’ve heard good things about him. I don’t know anything for a fact, but I feel comfortable with him. Lynch is more of a mystery. He played at Memphis, never really having much of a spotlight on him. His team was solid, but nothing special. Since he was an underclassman, Lynch didn’t get to go to an all star game. I have not heard anything about him from people I trust so I’m not sure what to make of Lynch in terms of intangibles.

Goff is the QB I prefer, but there is a strong case to be made for Wentz. Lynch remains the mystery man.

I can’t wait to see who the Rams want. I think Wentz is Jeff Fisher’s type of QB, but Goff is the most NFL-ready QB of the bunch so you can make a strong argument that he should be the pick.


One late round RB I like quite a bit is Auburn’s Peyton Barber.

He left school early to help provide for his mom and family. That sounds good, but you always get nervous when a kid has to provide for so many. Can he stay focused and be successful in pro football?

I love what I see on tape.

Barber is a north-south runner who keeps his shoulders square to the line of scrimmage. He doesn’t go down on first contact and will run over his share of tacklers. He shows the ability to make some defenders miss. Barber is 228 pounds and is a physical runner, as you would expect.

There are plenty of questions in regard to Barber’s ability to block and catch, but there shouldn’t be many questions about him as a runner. I have no idea if the Eagles are interested in him, but Barber would be an interesting addition to the backfield because of his size and running style.


107 Comments on “Presence”

  1. 1 laeagle said at 11:44 PM on April 16th, 2016:

    “Nobody’s Fault But Mine” was of course the big hit on that album.

    For historical perspective, there was a company called “Hipgnosis” that used to do crazy photo work, that was used on that cover for placing the odd “obelisk” or whatever the hell it was in various old time photographs. I think they did a bunch of work on album covers back in the day. At that time, that was a mystical black art. Today, we’d call that “photoshopping” and any idiot with a phone can do it.

    Look at me, I’m like ACViking, but for 70s rock history.

  2. 2 Bert's Bells said at 4:30 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    They did Dark Side of the Moon too.

  3. 3 Media Mike said at 7:08 AM on April 17th, 2016:


  4. 4 unhinged said at 9:12 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    A co-founder of Hipgnosis was Storm Thorgerson, who was a contemporary of the great Roger Dean, who painted the covers of several rock albums (Fragile, Tales From Topographic Oceans were two popular works) around the same time that Hipgnosis was churning out cutting-edge graphics. Dean was not as prolific, but he was creating art as opposed to harnessing micro-processor technology. What I find most impressive is these two gentlemen were from the same culture that gave the world an astounding amount of quality rock music. Hipgnosis was much more involved in the music business than Dean, who was more of a commissioned artist. Yes, the British prog/rock band, was Dean’s biggest popularizer, but he did album covers for a number of music artists.

  5. 5 Bert's Bells said at 10:16 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    England is a really effin’ small place. The crossover between rockers and artists is always fertile, especially so when there’s only like 200 cool people in the whole country.

  6. 6 unhinged said at 11:14 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I’ve spent a few years there, and I’d take issue with that characterization. GB has roughly a quarter of our population on 1/10th of the land mass. They are a heterogeneous people who have had a sizeable headstart on us in living in a post-imperial culture. For well over a century, they have contributed to the Arts in a way that only a few cultures can match. What I most admire about the British people is their appetite for intellectualism. It is a tradition that has survived their long, often inglorious history. (Here, Intellectualism is mocked and derided as snobbery, and that is a big reason why we have a major political party that parades it’s hatred of government as it spends billions of dollars to amass votes.) No culture has contributed more to the depth and breadth of rock music.

  7. 7 Bert's Bells said at 11:37 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Nah, it’s a backwater of robbery and incest that has flourished on exploiting the poor for hundreds of years.

  8. 8 unhinged said at 12:55 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Are you at all familiar with The Wire, an HBO program that ran around the time of The Sopranos? MY BIAS: I don’t think I will ever see a TV serial as good as that. It was popular when it ran, but it has kind of disappeared from our cultural discourse. A couple of years ago, The Guardian ran a reader survey: Best TV Show Ever. The Wire won by a wide margin, and the analyses offered by readers was rich and insightful. I take it your comments have been tongue-in-cheek, which I appreciate. Your humor leads me to conclude you are a closet anglophile.

  9. 9 Bert's Bells said at 3:09 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Tongue-in-cheek, but living in Dublin —so that tells you a little about my feelings towards the Queen.

    The Wire is huge in academia, actually. Media scholars have imbued it with semi-magical powers.

  10. 10 unhinged said at 4:29 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    My late father was born there – great city! I have no love of monarchs, even less for oligarchs, and England and U.S. both have their (un)fair shares of the latter. On the subject of the Arts, Eire takes a back seat to NO society when it comes to the written word, be it literature, poetry or polemics. To long life and a quick death!

  11. 11 Cafone said at 12:53 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    bunch of chavs

  12. 12 unhinged said at 4:31 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Yeah, they have their share, but fewer per capita I would imagine than we’ve got here.

  13. 13 ChoTime said at 12:31 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Ok, how about this: Frank Frazetta. Painter, did some memorable rock covers. Was recruited by the New York Giants in some way. No one painted barbarians better–you can take that to the bank!

  14. 14 daveH said at 12:39 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Lost interest in watching Wentz on Gruden’s QB show after 5 min .. no redheads

  15. 15 Media Mike said at 7:09 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I lost interest in Gruden when they fired Jaws from MNF to keep Gruden on there. Wrong move ESPN.

  16. 16 daveH said at 12:03 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Lost interest in jaws when he missed a wide open Wilbert Montgomery in the super bowl …
    At least he acknowledges it

  17. 17 midnitemud said at 2:56 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    JPJ is nowhere in that live video. Bassists never get the love they deserve… m/.

    Speaking of late round/PFA RBs… I live in Houston, and Kenneth Farrow (UH’s RB for the past few years) was on local sports radio yesterday and said the Eagles were one of four teams showing extra interest in him (others being Chargers, Cowboys, and Texans). Dude can play ball. N-S runner, never averaged below 5yds per carry, 3 year team captain, played STs even as a senior, etc and so forth… He said that his work on special teams is what will help him gain a roster spot in the NFL. Looks like Fipp may get a new toy! I definitely wouldn’t sleep on this kid being an Eagles’ target draft weekend.

  18. 18 ChoTime said at 12:33 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Bass was 4th out of 4 musicians in that band, my man.

  19. 19 midnitemud said at 1:06 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    You just proved my point… no love. Don’t think I could “rank” Zeppelin members, but you go right ahead.

  20. 20 ChoTime said at 4:53 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I did. Page… Plant… Bonham… forget about it. Sorry, I love the low end, but… damn. I guess there are probably Ringo fans out there too.

  21. 21 midnitemud said at 6:03 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Lol. I hear ya.

  22. 22 ChoTime said at 1:30 AM on April 18th, 2016:

    That being said, I am a guitar player, so what do you expect.

  23. 23 midnitemud said at 5:02 PM on April 19th, 2016:

    I’m a bass player… so, same here.

  24. 24 Cafone said at 3:30 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Wow Barber looks awesome. Get it done Howie!

  25. 25 Cafone said at 5:08 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    On the other hand, what if Prosise and Barber are both on the board when you are ready to pick an RB? I like Prosise’s receiving potential.

  26. 26 Cafone said at 3:40 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Hey Tommy, what do you think of Willie Beavers? I like his name.

  27. 27 Media Mike said at 7:10 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Shame they took away his college and lamely renamed it Arcadia.

  28. 28 laeagle said at 12:58 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Ashamed to admit it, but I chuckled a little every time I drove by there.

  29. 29 Media Mike said at 7:22 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I can’t remember if somebody posted it here or not, but there was a tidbit I read that the Rams are still being coy about which QB they want because they might want to see if they can get Cleveland to swap picks with them if they get a sense that Cleveland wants the QB that the Rams don’t want. And who knows if Cleveland’s owner is going to let anybody but RG3 be the QB.

    I guess we’ll know when the Rams turn in the card……….or the Browns do!

  30. 30 Media Mike said at 7:32 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    So here is a first-pick draft where Goff dropped to 8 and I traded down from our 2nd third round pick. I needed to make sure I got two o-linemen I liked.

    Round 1 Pick 8: Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 20 (NYJ): Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 2: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 20 (NYJ): Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU (B)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (A)
    Round 5 Pick 25: Paul McRoberts, WR, Southeast Missouri State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 13: Justin Simmons, FS, Boston College (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 12: Antwaun Woods, DT, Southern California (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 30: Luther Maddy, DT, Virginia Tech (B-)

  31. 31 Media Mike said at 7:51 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    And an fanspeak draft using the CBS board.


  32. 32 truehaynes said at 11:52 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I would love this draft

  33. 33 Media Mike said at 1:40 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I’d hope it would break down that way on draft day, but we’ll see.

  34. 34 mksp said at 7:10 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Yeah this would work.

  35. 35 Media Mike said at 7:15 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    There are a couple of guys on here that I could envision as upgrades over our current starters, so that is the fun part. The fact that dudes I don’t want seem to fall on draft day is the un-fun part.

  36. 36 laeagle said at 1:33 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Those first two picks would make me happy

  37. 37 Media Mike said at 1:40 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Me as well, but probably little chance of it.

  38. 38 Media Mike said at 7:58 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Out of this list of 2nd year / young players who didn’t play last year, do any of you see any of these guys stepping up and contributing. I know I’m very draft obsesses, but this team is going to need some of these dudes to step up and be contributors.

    Brett Boyko T
    Malcolm Bunche G
    Randall Evans CB
    Brandon Hepburn LB
    Travis Raciti DT
    Jacorey Shepherd CB

  39. 39 Insomniac said at 8:10 AM on April 17th, 2016:


  40. 40 Media Mike said at 8:21 AM on April 17th, 2016:


  41. 41 Anders said at 8:20 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Shepard as nickle/dime CB

  42. 42 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:33 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Dime… Unlikely that he would beat out Leodis or Nolan for the Nickel spot

  43. 43 D3FB said at 8:44 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Bunche is a guy who has all the tools, makes coaches fall in love, but is a criminal underachiever. I’d be very skeptical of him becoming anything of note. Boyko could push Dennis Kelly if we don’t bring in alot of T.

    I think both Rice and Sheperd have a good shot to make the roster and push for playing time. I don’t think Evans makes much noise.

    Raciti has an outside shot of sticking depending on what gets brought in, but there are a handful of late day 3/UDFA guys who if we bring in I would give the nod to notably Quinton Jefferson (seems to fit Schwartz mold) and Delvon Simmons (played for the DL coach at USC, also fits mold).

    Hepburn I don’t think will do anything. Deonte Skinner flashed more to me last year in preseason.

  44. 44 Media Mike said at 8:45 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Good deal. So given that those three CBs should be in the mix to be on the roster, I wonder what that does to CB in the draft.

  45. 45 D3FB said at 8:57 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I think we’ve got good depth at the position. We could certainly use another top line guy.

  46. 46 Media Mike said at 8:59 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I get very torn on who/where would be a good addition at CB in this draft. That missing 2nd rounder…………….

  47. 47 Kelce's Beard, O.G. said at 7:27 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I think Sean Davis (maryland) has all the tools, and may sneak to day 3
    check out his mockdraftable comp — it’s the closest correlation between 2 players in the entire database

  48. 48 Greg Richards said at 9:27 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    One thing to keep in mind with Hepburn: He was drafted in the 7th round in 2013 when Schwartz was the HC there. I’d think familiarity with the HC and the defensive scheme gives Hepburn a shot.

  49. 49 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:30 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I give him a shot because he doesn’t have that difficult of a path to a roster spot. As of Today, our second string Linebackers would be Najee, Skinner and Hepburn. with the lack of Durability of our 3 starters, think its safe to assume that a Linebacker will be drafted, so that would leave Hepburn, Skinner and whatever Undrafted LBs we add to compete for one last roster spot, which is at least doable for Hepburn.
    Where as a kid like Randall Evans has a much harder path to a roster spot..
    1) ROWE
    2) Nolan
    3) Leodis
    4) Brooks who we just signed
    if we assume that those 4 corners are making this roster, that leaves JaCorey, Randall Evans, Denzel Rice, and whatever CB we draft/UDFA signings to compete for 1 roster spot, maybe 2 spots if we decide to keep 6.
    so I would think Randall Evans has one of harder paths to winning a roster spot since Hepburn only has to compete with Skinner and Undrafted free agents, while Raciti only has to compete with Beau Allen and Taylor Hart

  50. 50 Forthebirds said at 10:10 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Jacorey Shepard

  51. 51 D3FB said at 8:32 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Auburns RG is really really good. Guy to keep an eye on in the future.

  52. 52 A_T_G said at 8:46 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I don’t understand the theory that LA is trying to get CLE to trade up in a swap. Neither team should be willing to go through with that:

    First, if CLE reveals their intention to LA and LA is agreeable to making the trade, CLE doesn’t need to make the trade because LA doesn’t want their guy.

    Second, if CLE is reveals their intention, LA is willing, and CLE doesn’t back away, then LA should because it means CLE is lying.

    The only time #2 trading to #1 makes sense is to prevent it from being traded to some other team. That ship has sailed.

  53. 53 Media Mike said at 8:49 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I agree it is very odd, yet people seem to be reporting it.

  54. 54 Insomniac said at 9:16 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    The Rams could be happy with either one of those QBs. They would be happier if they can get some more picks and still land either QB. What do the Browns have to lose if they don’t call their bluff? They have a 50% chance of losing their guy. Now you have an angry Hue Jackson without his QB and RG3 is starting. That’s assuming the Browns love one guy way more than the other. The Browns have issues retaining players simply because they don’t win. You need a QB to win and blowing your chance of getting one will make them stay in the basement even longer.

  55. 55 A_T_G said at 9:35 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I guess I reject the premise that LA gave up 6 picks, essentially two draft classes, without having any preference over which of these two very different QBs they actually want.

    I think the reason LA is being coy is because they gain nothing by revealing their intention. This way, they make things just slightly harder for the other 31 teams, which benefits them, and if their guy takes a small meteorite to knee while tanning himself in the backyard, they can pretend they wanted the other guy all along.

  56. 56 D3FB said at 9:46 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I think I’m in the camp that believes they are just playing coy because the league wants them too. Drives traffic, increases eyeballs.

    People forget that the Colts didn’t announce they were taking Luck until April 24. They were always going to take him but they played the game and let the rumors swirl a bit.

    Also like you said they’ll wait until closer to the draft just to make sure Wentz doesn’t turn up with a dead body in his trunk in the middle of the Bakken oil field.

    Stan Kroenke is satan incarnate, but he doesn’t micromanage to the level of overruling his front office. He may well have mandated that Snead go get him a flashy QB for the relocation, but he’s not going to be making the pick.

  57. 57 Greg Richards said at 11:37 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    You don’t think he may have incentive to push the local guy Goff for marketing purposes?

  58. 58 D3FB said at 12:17 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Goff is from Norcal.

    Would a kid from Richmond be considered local for us?

  59. 59 laeagle said at 12:57 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Agreed. 6 hour drive. And the two places couldn’t be more different from a cultural standpoint, either.

    That’s like when I tell people I’m from Philly and they say, “Oh really, I know a guy from Pittsburgh. Do you know him?”

  60. 60 A_T_G said at 1:13 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Well? Don’t leave it just hanging out there. Do you know him?

  61. 61 Greg Richards said at 1:34 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Read somewhere that Goff’s hometown was in San Diego area.

  62. 62 RC5000 said at 2:00 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Novato Ca…Marin County. Bay area. Went to Marin Catholic. Both parents went to Cal. He grew up going to Cal football games. Maybe at some point he lived in SD but I think Bay area is home.

  63. 63 James Adair said at 4:18 PM on April 18th, 2016:

    Regardless. Goff is way more California than Wentz. From a marketing standpoint and what casual fans who pay attention to such things Goff would be the choice, I think, with everything else being equal.

  64. 64 FairOaks said at 2:51 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    The premise/rumor was the Rams do have a preference, and would only trade down if the Browns want the other guy. So by trading down, you risk losing the QB you traded all that stuff to get. If you really, honestly do not care which QB you get (which I don’t believe for a minute) then maybe you could get Cleveland to do something.

  65. 65 Insomniac said at 7:18 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    The premise was busted when the Rams started baiting the Browns by saying “Both guys will be good”.

  66. 66 A_T_G said at 8:51 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    On the quote from Elliot that the Eagles were really interested, if our front office is doing it right every player with whom we meet should feel that way. Some of these guys are going to end up on the team, some might be FA in a few years and in both cases it is beneficial to us for the guys to feel wanted.

  67. 67 scratcherk said at 10:22 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I think Fisher slipped in an interview I saw. He was talking about weentz and said ‘l think he can win a Superbowl for us ” then quickly corrected himself and said for any team. Who knows but I think it’ll be Wentz number one

  68. 68 FairOaks said at 2:47 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Now, the question is: was it a calculated “slip”? 😉

  69. 69 Greg Richards said at 11:08 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    How about this theoretical 3-way trade:

    Drew Brees to the Jets
    Saints get #2 overall pick to take Carson Wentz(assuming LA takes Goff)
    Browns get #12, #20, other picks

  70. 70 RC5000 said at 11:41 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Would that work with Jets cap?

  71. 71 Media Mike said at 11:45 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Yes; if they convert almost all of that $20 mil base he’s due into a bonus and add 2 or 3 years to the deal at $20 / per.

  72. 72 RC5000 said at 12:00 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    They’d probably move Wilkerson and maybe another player or two. Does Brees want to move his family to New York?

  73. 73 Greg Richards said at 12:15 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Brees’ salary is only $19.75M. He just has a huge cap figure for the Saints because they’ve renegotiated his contract the past few years to open cap room. Each year, they’ve converted a portion or all of that year’s base salary into a signing bonus that is prorated across the rest of the contract. It reduces that year’s cap figure but increases the cap figure in future years. Brees is in the last year of his contract and the Jets will definitely want to extend him. It’s difficult for the Saints because their future cap years also are bloated because of re-negotiations with other players.

    The Jets could potentially move Muhammad Wilkerson as part of this trade or in a separate trade. Even without an extension(which would likely reduce Brees’ 2016 cap hit for the Jets), Brees’ salary would be less than Wilkerson plus a re-signed Fitzpatrick.

  74. 74 Media Mike said at 11:44 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    Given Haslem is compelling the team to start RG3……………I could see it.

  75. 75 truehaynes said at 11:56 AM on April 17th, 2016:

    I would love to be able to trade back and take Conklin at 15. While Stanley has Lt ability and is inherently more valuable, I like that Conklin can play g while Peters is here and can then be a good RT when Lane moves to left. Stanley can’t play guard and don’t think he’s enough if a road grader to play rt

  76. 76 D3FB said at 12:08 PM on April 17th, 2016:


  77. 77 Greg Richards said at 12:22 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Yeah, I’ve read plenty of analysts who disagree with their assesment of Conklin. To each their own.

  78. 78 SteveH said at 12:23 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I’m curious about how much teams think that poor technique like Conklin’s can be “fixed” at the next level. For instance, if you thought Conklin had lots of other traits that are good for an OL (power, bullying attitude), how would you evaluate whether the guy will improve technique at the next level? There must be some way to measure how well someone might learn or take to learning, or is it more of a gut feeling or crap shoot in terms of how teams evaluate that?

  79. 79 D3FB said at 12:38 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    The hitch in his kick slide is pretty bad. I flat out don’t think he can play tackle early. He’s not clean from alot of other technical standpoints either. There are easily half a dozen guards without the major technical flaws. His testing athleticism doesn’t show up on tape.

    Can it all be learned? Sure. But offensive line is the most technically demanding position. And you’re going to be asking him to unlearn alot of bad habits. That’s not something I’m into anywhere near where Conklin is slotted to go.

    Additionally power and bullying are the equivalent of big hitting safeties. It gets fans all hot and bothered, but Conklin isn’t going to get by on power and bullying in the league. He’s a highly flawed prospect, I’m sure he’ll be a decent pro, but he’s not Jon Runyan (and Jon Runyan wouldn’t be as valuable in the modern game anyways) and as much as people love “power and bullying” it works great against 19 year old sophomores from Purdue. Not so much against 28 year old vets with better technique and as much strength as you.

  80. 80 SteveH said at 1:08 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Fair enough, but how do teams look at it do you think? Do they try to measure or test how likely it is that someone will take to coaching or how hard they will work on their technique? Is it more anecdotal? (coach so and so said that player X is a coachable kid)

    I have no real opinion of Conklin either way, but I figure he must have something going for him if he’s going to get drafted, but he obviously is going to need a lot of work to make it as a pro.

    I guess an example of what I’m talking about was Steph Curry. When he first got into the league his method of running was so stressful on his ankles he’d literally get hurt just running down the court, so he completely rebujlt the way that he ran, the way that he cut, the way that he jumped, etc. Which is astonishing to me because of the amount of muscle memory involved. Obviously he must be extremely driven and capable to rebuild his motor skills to such an extent. So I guess I’m asking, do teams try and measure how much “Steph Curry” a player has in them?

    I’m guessing different teams do it different ways, but I’d be surprised if there wasn’t something that they did to try and measure how likely someone is going to improve.

  81. 81 D3FB said at 7:57 AM on April 18th, 2016:

    It’s not really something that is quantifiable. It’s something that the front office would certainly want feedback from Stoudtland and Chung. It’s one of the reasons scouting will always be more art than science.

    Normally it would be something like a guy needing to tweak something small, like weight distribution between his post foot and kick foot or the angle of his kick foot. Those are smaller issues and as long as the kinesiology checks out can be rejiggered fairly easily.

    With Conklin its a ground up rebuild. It’s more akin to Tebows throwing motion or a guy with a busted shot or swing.

  82. 82 D3FB said at 12:44 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    For example Brandon Scherff was bigger nastier meaner and far more technically sound.

    Here’s what JJ Watt did to him.

    Now imagine that without a solid technical foundation.

  83. 83 daveH said at 12:04 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Plastic Fantastic in Bryn Mawr had a big promo for Presence when it came out

  84. 84 P_P_K said at 2:39 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Old School is the best school.

  85. 85 Bert's Bells said at 3:10 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Dang, is that store still around? Got a so many first records there in high school.

  86. 86 daveH said at 5:29 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    nope. think it never even saw the 80s .. remember walking in there? seeing the pipe, rock t shirts and all the concert photos for sale! thought one day it would be very valuable to have a collection of them. yuck id hate to be long a few boxes of them now. also first place I ever saw that carried Gator GUM of all products.

  87. 87 Jack Waggoner said at 7:18 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I remember that place, a little. Also a music store called Medley Music, near there somewhere

  88. 88 FairOaks said at 9:06 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    It was there into the 2000s, for sure. Many used CDs bought there. I think I remember it being sold, but looking it up now, it’s still a record store (and only records by the looks of it). Looks like the name (and presumably ownership) changed in 2004; it’s now “Gold Million Records”.

  89. 89 daveH said at 10:21 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I googled it also. . Looks like they moved.. if its the same store still in business that is coooool news

  90. 90 FairOaks said at 12:13 AM on April 18th, 2016:

    Yeah, looking more closely, it’s definitely moved though not far. Used to be next to the movie theater I think. I’m pretty sure I remember the old owner saying he was selling… but no idea if that actually happened (just assuming so based on the name and location change). At the time, it was largely CDs with the LPs upstairs, but the new place looks like it’s entirely LPs (and 45s) based on the pictures.

  91. 91 A_T_G said at 8:55 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Bryn Mawr must be one of the oddest names in the country.

  92. 92 Insomniac said at 9:10 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I wouldn’t say it’s as bad as Accident, Maryland.

  93. 93 A_T_G said at 9:24 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    No there are plenty of unfortunate choices (an intersection in the Lancaster area where one can choose to head towards Intercourse or Blueball comes to mind) but the sheer combination of letters, two one sylable words, lack of vowels is just odd.

    It is one where you got up hearing the name on commercials and traffic reports, then you see it written for the first time and it looks like something a kindergartner made up not knowing any of the rules and conventions.

  94. 94 since1961 said at 10:13 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Down Montgomery Avenue from Cynwyd. They call it Welsh Valley for a reason.

  95. 95 daveH said at 10:19 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    And Bala Cynwyd. . Welsh history i think

  96. 96 ChoTime said at 5:50 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Well, Qbase likes Goff, pretty much dislikes the others. 9th best project in the last 21 years, right below Mariota. Has the well-named Dakota Prescott ranked above Lynch and Cook, giving him a 45% chance of becoming an effective starter. (I would say 45.88937% to be sure, bu that’s just me…)

  97. 97 Media Mike said at 5:57 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I like the first half of this post, not really enjoying the 2nd. Thank you for the link.

  98. 98 ChoTime said at 1:29 AM on April 18th, 2016:

    You liked one of those guys?

  99. 99 FairOaks said at 2:41 PM on April 18th, 2016:

    I’m guessing the mild praise for Dak Prescott disappointed him 😉

  100. 100 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:14 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    recent History of picks from the 7-10 range:
    #7 Kevin White
    #8 Vic Beasly
    #9 Eric Flowers
    #10 Gurley
    #7 Mike Evans
    #8 Justin Gilbert
    #9 Anthony barr
    #10 Eric Ebron
    #7 Jonathon Cooper
    #8 Tavon Austin
    #9 Dee Milner
    #10 Chance Warmack
    #7 Mark Barron
    #8 Ryan Tannehill
    #9 Luke Keuchly
    #10 Stephan Gilmore
    #7 Aldon smith
    #8 Jake Locker
    #9 Tyrone Smith
    #10 Blaine Gabbert
    #7 Joe Haden
    #8 Rolondo McClain
    #9 CJ Spiller
    #10 Tyson Alu
    That’s a kind of scary list.. Seems like typically one or two of the four teams end up with a bust. Whether it’s a flat out Lemon, a kid who injuries kept from reaching his ceiling, a Good but not GREAT player worthy of the top 10 selection, in some cases teams were right about the player evaluation but Busted on Charechter, like the Niners and Aldon Smith who has to he considered a bust for the Niners…
    When you see that coming away with a stud has been far from a Guarentee, it really puts needs and positional value in perspective… Hopefully Roseman drafts a kid who will be a franchise building block and one of the best players on our team. Just make sure we make this great opportunity to add premier talent count! Roseman needs to come out of round 1 with a kid who will grow into a Joe Haden, Tyron Smith Caliber of NFL player, don’t care what position he has to draft to make that happen

  101. 101 Fufina said at 6:27 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    First round picks are generally about 1/3 hits, 1/3 low level starter players, 1/3 busts. People have far to large expectations when it comes to 1st round picks.

    Howie does not ‘need’ to do anything in the first round. Look at the Seahawks… they have only hit on 1st round pick on their current roster in Earl Thomas. What Howie needs to do is draft 1 pro bowl player, 2 quality starters and 1-2 non starters and he will have had a great draft. Where those picks come from does not matter. 1st round is the place where you have the best chance to find one of those guys, but great players can be found in rounds 2/3, and even later in some cases.

    Eagles need a good draft – we lack elite players and those are very hard to find in anywhere outside of the draft (since teams resign those guys). But we have the entire draft to find someone (or if we are greedy 2) like that.

  102. 102 mksp said at 7:06 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    In all seriousness, this is the most useful and informative thing you’ve ever posted.

    *Pig flies above the snow-capped mountains of hell*

  103. 103 eagleyankfan said at 8:03 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    In all seriousness….thanks for squashing all hopes n dreams. You could have at least waited until they made the pick.

  104. 104 Rambo said at 8:16 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Good stuff here.

  105. 105 Bob Brewer said at 8:33 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    I’m now convinced the Eagles need to go full on sixers and suck.

  106. 106 A_T_G said at 8:52 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    This is good stuff. I think it highlights how we as fans overvalue draft picks. Hopefully Howie makes an informed decision and then goes for it without paralysis through analysis. Move up for a guy you covet. Take a chance on Jack’s knee. Take Lynch if you think he has a better chance than Tannenhill or Locker. It is not a sure-fire 10-year starter we are risking, it could be Ronaldo McClain.

  107. 107 Mr. Magee said at 9:14 PM on April 17th, 2016:

    Nobody should be worrying themselves about Wentz… He will be gone after the first pick. I don’t know how much the Eagles like Goff or Lynch, but I’m hoping it’s not enough for them to do something stupid.