From The Top Down
Posted: October 11th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 124 Comments »While there are plenty of the same players and even some of the same assistant coaches, the 2016 Eagles are very different from the 2015 Eagles.
Doug Pederson on the #Eagles, 2016 vs. 2015: "This is a different football team than a year ago. This is a resilient football team."
— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) October 10, 2016
There are 2 big reasons – Doug Pederson and Carson Wentz.
Things did not end well for Chip Kelly, but I still think he’s a better coach than many people give him credit for. That said, I think Kelly’s biggest fault is that he didn’t get the importance of the human element. Football players are people (even Matt Schobel). They need to be motivated. They need leadership. You have to push some buttons.
Pederson doesn’t have Kelly’s creative ideas on how to run a team, but Pederson very much understands the human element. He’s a former player. He knows what players want to hear, but also what they need to hear.
Wentz is doing special things on the field, but go beyond the numbers. He seems to get his role on this team. He’s a rookie and that means he has to be somewhat deferential to veteran players. At the same time, he’s the starting QB and that means he is the big dog. He has to be a leader, on and off the field. That requires a combination of butt-kissing and butt-kicking.
Sam Bradford tried to be a team leader. He gave some good pregame speeches. He worked hard on and off the field. The players respected him. The coaches liked him. Things are different with Wentz. He is a leader in the traditional sense, but he’s also a leader because of his special talent. That TD pass to Jordan Matthews in the season opener only went 19 yards, but it might as well have gone 200 yards, over a mountain and through a hurricane.
That TD gave the Eagles a 7-0 lead on the first possession of the season. They didn’t have a 7-0 1st quarter lead in 2015 until almost Thanksgiving. The 2015 Eagles always seemed to be playing from behind. That’s just not how the Wentz Wagon rolls.
Wentz won a pair of national titles at North Dakota State as the starter. He was on 3 other teams that won as the backup. He knows how to win and how to be part of a winner. He’s not going to accept mediocrity from himself or his team. As odd as this sounds, Wentz isn’t afraid to succeed. Some young players play not to lose. They avoid taking chances for fear of making mistakes. Wentz is willing to take chances, because he believes in himself and his teammates.
Winning can be infections.
I’m sure I’ve mentioned this story before, but it bears repeating. Duke went 37-2 in 1999 and had one of the great college teams ever. They lost the national title game in a close thriller with UConn. A bunch of guys from that team went to the NBA. The next winter Duke added some talented recruits, but they got off to an 0-2 start by losing both games in a holiday tournament. Star freshman Jason Williams got on the team bus and was laughing about something. Shane Battier, the key holdover from the great ’99 team, went nuts. He let Williams know he needed to get that F’ing smile off his face. This was Duke. Going 0-2 was unacceptable. There was nothing. to be happy about. Nothing. That team ended up with a good year. The next season they won the national title.
Chris McPherson brought up a great point on the postgame show on PE.com on Sunday. Wentz is now the key player and leader on the Eagles. Other players will look at him to see how he responds to the loss.
In his PC, you could tell Wentz was not a happy camper. He gave terse answers and wasn’t doing much smiling. He hates to lose. His background at NDSU can really serve him well this week. He was in an atmosphere where winning was expected, not a luxury. Part of knowing how to win is knowing how to deal with losses. You learn from them. You use them as motivation.
I’ll be excited to see how Wentz and the Eagles respond to the loss when they hit the field on Sunday. I know he’ll do everything he can this week to get himself and his teammates ready to get back on the winning track.
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I think Kelly’s biggest fault was the failure to recognize the genius of Howie Roseman. If he had just let Howie build his team for him he’d be still be coaching here.
His second biggest fault was insisting on the 3-4.
His biggest fault of all was the inability to adapt. So many problems he had as a HC stemmed from that.
I don’t blame Chip for wanting a 3-4. I blame him for requiring his version of a 3-4.
Billy Davis is probably not a great defensive coordinator but he was stuck executing someone else’s scheme to a certain degree. That’s on Davis for agreeing to when he was hired, but it’s also on Chip.
Had Davis been allowed to run whatever scheme he wanted (like the hybrid 4-3 under), or had Kelly been smart enough to hire Wade Phillips (1-gap 3-4) when he was sitting at home waiting for a call and let him run the defense like Jim Schwartz currently does, Chip might not have been fired.
Wins beat emotional intelligence, after all.
Kelly would never have hired Wade because Wade would never agree to run the 2 gap 3-4
Yep, that’s pretty much exactly my point.
I mean at the end of the day, your offensive guru’s offense wasn’t working, so I think he would have been fired either way.
It wasn’t working but they went 7-9, not 3-13. There was a lot of hope regarding the fabled #LastSevenGames of Bradford as well.
Actually, bringing that up, the Vikings offense isn’t really doing that much this season. It’s almost entirely the defense. Wade Phillips scheming with guys like Cox, Hicks, and Jenkins might have been a pretty good unit.
*6-9. he didn’t earn that last win
Kelly’s biggest fault was not releasing Cooper after his racist rant. Kelly lost a lot of cred with his players.
Player leaders defended Cooper publicly. This narrative that it divided the team or caused huge riffs is marlarkey IMO. Cooper is a moron, not a racist. He made a stupid comment, his teammates realized it as a mistake and not his character
I’m not sure things are that simple; The 53 man roster (plus IR and the PS) is a large body of players. with rosters you have departments (Offense, Defense, O Line, D Line, skill players, DBs, etc), so not everyone interacts with one another, and not everyone gets on.
Perhaps Cooper was only defended or given the benefit of the doubt by those close to him, and/or those who interacted with him on a daily basis on the field/on the training field/ in the locker room, or those who tow the company line, or those who benefited by the presence of his skillset.
The same could be applied to the non-playing staff, as well.
I can most definitely see it being a problem in some way, how big after everything died down, I don’t know.
Well, anything could be possible with that open ended type of description.
Could 1-2 players have been upset with Cooper? Sure, even 10 could have been, but to rise to the level of dividing the team or causing a huge riff that impacted their performances and the season is another thing entirely. To say that Chip not suspending Cooper lost the locker room is a serious charge.
If people are going to make those claims, they need to provide the evidence we can all evaluate.
Chemistry is something you feel when you’re playing well, not something that causes you to play well. (IMO)
I think that was his second biggest fault. I think his first was that he just didn’t relate to people. I don’t think he’s a good teacher. He’s a good schemer. Getting fired in season like that is usually the mark of being an ass hole. The fact that Lurie pulled the string before the season was over on a coach that had an overall winning record speaks to his relationship with the team. I don’t think you do that to a guy if the players and staff respect him (and by staff I mean the people beyond the coaches: the secrataries and other people). Lurie must have been at his wits end to have made that move in-season because that’s a big deal and a big message to send.
The really ironic thing, if Chip never messed with Howie, HR might have found a way to get Mariota.
Thank God that didn’t happen.
To expand on the second fault.. his inability to adapt scheme to fit players.
“In his PC, you could tell Wentz was not a happy camper. He gave terse answers and wasn’t doing much smiling. He hates to lose. ”
I watched the CW PC twice. I agree he was not happy. I am hoping he understands that losing is unacceptable and winning is everything in this league. We need to learn if CW will be clutch. I am hoping CW develops that killer instinct that Brady, Rogers and other Elite QB’s possess. I am hoping he is of the mindset to put teams away and out of their misery when the opportunity presents itself. These are the types of intangibles that separates the other QB’s that have similar traits in size, arm strength and intelligence and elevates a QB to elite status. I look forward to seeing how he and the rest of the team respond next week after losing a game they should’ve won.
This loss hurts so much because we know we were clearly the better team and found a way to lose at the end by beating ourselves with penalties and turnovers. As fans we can dwell on the loss and talk about it right up until the next game. The players have to turn the page immediately and begin focusing on the Deadskins and getting a win on the road against a division opponent who has won 3 games in a row and embarrassed us twice last season.
We will learn so much about this team this Sunday. I can’t wait to play this game and to get the bad taste out of our mouth from the Lions game.
This piece mentions pushing buttons and motivating players. One of the greatest NFL coaches used to say that if a player needs someone to motivate him he shouldn’t be playing. The first coach to win 4 Super Bowls.
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/
http://www.ninersnation.com/
You’ll be much happier.
He also said “Some coaches pray for wisdom, I pray for 260-pound tackles. They’ll give me plenty of wisdom”
At the time, those wouldn’t have been severely undersized tackle, would have they?
No, the point is maybe a guy whose famous QB completed a whopping 52% of his career passes isn’t the one to model yourself after in 2016.
http://i.imgur.com/7koj6az.gif
“Pederson doesn’t have Kelly’s creative ideas on how to run a team,”
Often on doesn’t really need creativity in running things, just compentency.
I had a girl give me one of those winning infections…still hurts to pee.
What Carson Wentz looked like at his press conferences was seriously jaw dropping…
Why?
Is this from one of those click bait thumb nails at the bottom of the site?
Yes, “seriously jaw dropping” has become part of my vernacular now as I see the phrase on a daily basis.
Me: We’ve got a promising young QB and a head coach who looks like the real deal. An awesome D coordinator and a ferocious DL. Go Eagles!
Also me: Another season, another regime, another game that could have, should have, been won, but the team was flat. Here we go again. I was foolishly hoping things would be different with the new regime.
That happens with all teams, even with great coaches and records – see our wins over the Pats and Steelers the last 2 years.
Defence struggled to adapt early to a Detroit team who new our defensive scheme back to front and when they were in positions to make stops they were killed by penalties. Offensively we were pretty decent right up until the back to back turn overs to loose the game.
Team stayed calm through adversity, kept believing in the face of some horrific officiating in a hostile and desperate stadium and should have pulled out the win, not sure where all the angst is coming from.
Yes all teams with promising young qb’s and a real deal head coach go 16-0. Perspective.
No, there was no expectation that they should go undefeated. And the disappointment isn’t even that this was a loss. The disappointment is that the Eagles (mostly the D) played poorly in a game that (seemed liked) we should have won. A team that we should have beat.
The concern is that, like years past, we will list all the “yeah buts” and hope that things will turn around.
And they might. Indeed they probably will. But the reality is that once again, as an Eagles fan, I was expecting my team to come out and execute like they had the previous three weeks and they didn’t. They just didn’t. Yeah but, yeah but.
They just didn’t.
I understand Rodger’s mantra “relax,” and I am. I’m relaxed. It is what it is. We heard the same thing the previous two years. They’ll turn it around, they’ll fix it.
And this team will. They will. But as an Eagles fan, the concern is there and it’s warranted.
Really looking forward to the Washington game.
Wonder ? no one here has said anything about not going for the 2 points instead of just 1? Would’ve had them tied. That’s on the rookie coach…
Looks like it was total team loss.
Live, and hopefully learn.
Darn…
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/785845566861434884
Love the optimism, but again we do not know yet. Too small of a sample. We’ll see. They should have won that game vs DET but played too sloppy and made a ton of mistakes as a team.
Pederson has got to drive that home – stop blaming the refs or making excuses. You did it to yourselves. Losing is not acceptable.
The strange Bradham usage, absence of Barner/Smallwood, horrible coverage & edge protection on screens & slants and costly turnovers doomed us. Time to get back to work and make sure we beat WSH.
bradham sat in first half, we think as punishmnet for the gun thing. kendricks played terribly.
I heard that too. Pederson should have stated that after the game then instead of letting the story grow legs. Own your decision if that what it was. If not, then tell us what the truth is.
I think this is exactly what Pederson did, contradicting the rumors and giving us the truth. It just took reporters time to check for themselves before they believed him and reported it correctly.
Good to hear, thanks ATG. I was under the impression they asked him and Schwartz at the post-game pressers and they gave vague answers bc they did not want to talk about the punishment
No, they said there was no punishment.
This is wrong. He was in during 2 of Detroit’s first 3 scoring drives.
Apparently, not so much. I thought so too from the radio broadcast. Merrill said Kendricks’ name a lot, and not in a positive light.
https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/785452574765973509
I think you can be honest about the refs having an abysmal disgrace of a game which is reality, while also Holding your assistant coaches and players accountable for their mistakes. Don’t see why they have to be mutually exclusive, especially when everyone in that Lockerroom knows that they put themselves in position to overcome all the mistakes and the refs bullshit finding a way to win, and then gave it away do to OUR mistakes.
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Im sure every playër in that lockerroom understands that if THEY didn’t make the mistakes they made, we could have given middle fingers to the Lions and to the Refs while we leave detroit with a win. Nothing wrong with being honest about the reality of the situation, especially when it’s the coaches and players to find a way to win that game regardless of what the refs throw at us
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But that was such a despicable Incompetant performance by the Refs, im happy Doug is sending the video to the league office insteas of just accepting the crap and acting like its ok for refs to not do their job at even close to a satisfactory level
So, Big V at RT. Interested to see how he does/how much help he needs from TE or RB.
Sorry bad form to answer your own comment… but…
This will give V valuable experience moving forward and allow LJ to move to LT, assuming he can stay off the suspended list.
I’m more confident in Pederson than our two previous coaches to recognize this and provide help with gameplanning as needed.
I 2nd that
HPV
This is a smart move, since cocaine use is encouraged over there…
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/785859957174435840
Shouldnt be disrespecting athletes you obviously know little about… You might be talking about the hardest working/worst paid athletes in professional sports…who put their health on the line to extremes every time they step up to compete
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Educate yourself on the path Philadelphia’s Eddie Alvarez had to take to get to this point where he has become the UFC lightweight champion, earning a BIG MONEY fight headlining against McGregor in MMAs first event in New York(MSG).
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Weird to see a drug joke considering you are talking about the most strictly drug tested athletes in all professional sports.. The UFC implemented stronger testing than what the state Commissions even require, and they do it out of their own pocket, when no one forced them to
Or, you know, perhaps it was sarcasm?
I thought “encouraging cocaine use” was over-the-top enough, but I believe if you have to explain something is a joke it means it wasn’t a very good joke, so, my bad.
I never found ignorance to be very funny, but to each his own I guess
I guess I’ll stop laughing at your posts then.
The only ignorance in my comment is that of Hardy.
The comment uses sarcasm to highlight the irony in believing that, upon being unwelcome in an athletic league because of his drug association, he announces that he will instead join a different athletic league where his drug habit will also make him unwelcome.
In no way does my laughing at this belief imply or state that I believe those athletes use cocaine. In fact, it is only amusing if the opposite is true.
You could substitute astronaut for MMA fighter and the effect would be the same. Or Olympic athlete. Except Hardy didn’t foolish claim he was going to do those things.
i can’t believe you would disrespect astronauts like that.
what the heck
It’s ok I found it funny if that makes you feel any better
It does. Thanks.
I prefer that every aspect of a joke be diagrammed and charted. It wouldn’t hurt to have press conferences before and after delivery, either.
Then scroll just a little farther…
When I think “this guy gets jokes”, I think GEagle
There is something wrong with the joke, but I can’t pinpoint it. Baloophi would probably be able to spin it.
WWF would be better.
The bad news for Hardy is that I don’t think any of the MMA companies will allow him to fight in the women’s division…
Ba doom doom pish!
Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all night.
I was in Vegas over the weekend and went to bet on Carson MF Wentz being in the HOF but it was only even odds.
Wow. On that you really should take the “no.”
just a (bad) joke
Kempski has some gifs on Kendricks. Not pretty.
Man that was awful. Had Kendricks just wrapped on his tackle or at least broken down properly, he would have stopped at least 3 different conversions or prevented a short 4th down try.
Here’s the link if you anyone else wants to join in on the awful: http://www.phillyvoice.com/mychal-kendricks-was-disaster-against-lions/
Sick to my stomach about the lane suspension being upheld… On the one hand, im kind of annoyed that Lane decided to fight this when there was a much better chance of it getting reduced than getting the entire ruling thrown out, but on the other hand if he really didn’t try to cheat, and he did everything short of paying thousands for a lab to test his supplements which is unrealistic to ask of athletes nor should they have, then I could understand why he wouldn’t accept a reduced sentence admitting to cheating which Wasnt his intention…. But to lose him for 10 games and one mistake away from a two year Ban is a real kick to the nuts.
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He was having a career year, undoubtably performing at the level of a top 3 NFL Right Tackle, and the Brooks/Lane powerhouse tandem was looking better each week..
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Because he is a mistake away for a two year ban, it means we need to add two capable offensive Tackles, instead of just needing to find a RT who could take over for Lane when he eventually replaces Peters…. Now we are forced to find a RT and a LT next offseason…. it would be HUGE to find out that Vaitai has what it takes to grow into a Longterm starting caliber OT which would mean only needing to find one more capable OT in the offseason.
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The only thing we can even consider some type of silver linning, is that being thrown into the fire for 10 games is going to teach us a lot about what we have in Vaitai… As for his first taste of action against the skins, assume we will see Brent Celek snap count increase so that he can line up next to Vaitai and give him plenty of help especially early in the game.
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Max Protection, multiple TE sets should be a large part of the game plan vs Washington
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Fortunatly Josh Norman is really the only washington DB that we need to respect. Their starting secondary Wasnt scaring anyone to begin with, so I doubt anyone will fear a banged up secondary made up of mostly backups. our TE’s should have a big game against their safeties
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Going to find out a lot about Big V, and our coaches ability to get young go playërs ready to play, and Gameplan to account for losing Lane which is a huge loss
I really find it hard to believe he tested positive from something on the approved substance list. Has someone proven that the substance he claims to have taken was on the list and does test positive for peptides?
You would think that he would prove his claims, and give the evidence to the public (if it were true). Prove it or its a lie, in my opinion.
Did I miss any sort of results release?
The problem is that plenty of times, you look at the Ingrediants of a supplement, you check it against the banned list, and there is nothîng in the Ingrediants that is supposed to test positive for any of the banned substances, yet there are cases where they find Ingrediants in the supplements that ARENT supposed to be in the supplements… This is a problem across all pro sports.
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The easiest explanation is the companies mixing the Ingrediants not always thoroughly cleaning the mixing container and an Ingrediants from the previous mixture ends up tainting the next mixture
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Im sure some athletes lie and use this as an excuse, but there are real cases of athletes testing positive for something that Wasnt supposed to be an Ingrediants of the supplement they bought…
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Need to find a better, more thorough way to regulate the supplement industry.. This is also an issue with the new synthetic drugs kids are taking, Never know when an Ingrediants that isn’t supposed to be in the product winds up in the batch you bought
Which almost makes it too convenient of an excuse. Remember the company line for all the roid users in Sea? Adderole! Feels the same man.
Granted I am a cynic by nature.
I don’t know. I wondered about the possibility that he was lying to the media to protect his image, but then why not plead for a reduced suspension? Why go straight to arbitration if you know you are playing a bluff?
Especially when historically playërs had much more luck getting it reduced then getting it thrown out completely.
Roger Clemons type of sentiment? I dunno hard to understand these guys. I want to believe Lane, but it is pretty tough. I’ll just judge him based on his performance when he returns. If he is bad: he is the biggest scumbag on earth, if he is bad: INNOCENT!
Paging D3FB:
https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/785900131111563264
Dolphins aren’t releasing good players .
Oh I’m aware
https://twitter.com/Astonia67/status/785903775936458752
Kind of feel bad for Ryan Mathews…. Yesterday was the mans birthday.
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Think it’s safe to assume that next time we need a runningback to kill the clock and preserve the lead, the responsibility will fall to smart veteran Darren Sproles. Ideally you would prefer the bigger, more physical runner in that role, but we are going to have to go with the smaller veteran RB with the better history of ball security in that situation…. Had we gone 3 and out without fumbling, odds are that our defense could have secured the win since detroit hadn’t been able to drive the length of the field since the first half
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Although the way that game was called, never know what type of bullshit pass interference call those refs would have pulled out of their ass to screw us and escorts the Lions offense into comfortable field goal range
What about putting the ball in the hands of our star rookie QB? 3rd and 3 is not a tougher pass to complete if someone is open. If not, scramble of take the sack.
exactly, and make the defense stop that. They would agree its much harder on their side but instead we make it easier on them
Nah.
Next opportunity, Pederson sends Mathews in and makes sure the team notices. Pederson is a players’ coach. He will give Mathews redemption while earning loyalty from the rest of the players. It is the same approach that led him to say he won’t be reining in Carson following the pick.
DAMN!! Retired Punter Chris Klewi destroyed Donald trump. Some crazy harsh comments that ended with “I played in the same lockerroom for a few years with a guy who turned out to be a serial rapist and even he never talked like that”… LOL SHOTS FIRED!! Hell knows no fury like a disgruntled retired punter
Saw the GIFs on Philly Voice of Kendricks… That’s really bad. I know it’s already into the season but with Kendricks struggling so much, would Barwin be able to play WIL? I know he can cover a little. Can’t be worse than Kendricks. Would allow Curry to see more snaps. Curry always seems to be blowing up or having an effect on plays. We have a strong DL rotation and i don’t think there would be a huge dropoff with Means in the game for a few snaps. We just have to do something about our LBers. And Kendricks is just not getting the message.
Kendricks should never again be allowed on the same field as Theo Riddick.
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I’d consider sending him a message benching him in favor of Najee Goode this week because last year Kendricks was embarressed by the Lions and not much changed when he faced them last week…. You know who else Embarressed Kendricks and exploited him in coverage last year? Washington!!!!
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Im afraid to see him on the field against the skins
i came here to post the same thing. after watching the game, i thought kendricks had a pretty shitty day. after seeing those GIFs…. good god, that was some pathetic LB play. i don’t see how you can give him playing time after that abomination.
What REALLY SUCKS is I feel like his play has steadily taken a nose Dive since we gave him that lucrative extension
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Seth Joyner Questions if he is being negatively effected by putting on too much muscle sayng he almost looks like a defense end now, but that doesn’t really explain his play falling off a cliff last year.
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I don’t know if he isn’t as hungry as he was pre contract extension, or if he is too emotional to handle not being a full time starter for the first time last year because of the Kiko rotation, and now playing behind Bradham and hicks,, did he lose speed by adding muscle? I don’t know how to explain what was such a promising 3 down linebacker completely nose diving like this while in his athletic prime
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I don’t understand it, I don’t know how to explain it especially since we can’t blame the 4-3 scheme, since he struggled last year in a 3-4 that he spent 3 years playing in. So dissapointing. Signing Bradham God send, hopefully he gets his shit together off the field, while he and Hicks stay Healthy.
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Ideally Joe Walker comes back strong from the ACL and proves to be legit starting caliber player, but either way we are going to have to invest a draft pick in a linebacker
90% of his poor plays are mental not physical. He takes bad angles, he doesn’t understand his assignment, he doesn’t understand the situation, he doesn’t recognize or understand where his help is at defensively, he comes in like a missile wildly diving instead of breaking down and making a solid tackle, he attacks the wrong shoulders of blockers, he doesn’t read his keys well, he’s slow to recognize screens, traps, draws, counters, play actions.
He’s just dumb
Agree 100%, and it’s been this way since day one. The only thing that surprises me is that people are surprised he can’t play well at the NFL level.
He’s generally only good when blitzing. Makes me wonder if mufasa was doing a ton of on the field coaching of Kendricks when he was here .
It’s possible, I’m just not sure how much you can coach someone on things that happen during a play, like which shoulder of the blocker to attack, when to go for the diving kill shot and when to just make the tackle, how to read screens and draws. I mean these are just things your brain needs to process as its happening. Mufasa would have to have 3 hours between plays to go over everything that might happen on each play.
I think this system simply does not match Kendricks skill set. Kendricks is ok when he has one job only. Like, blitz and hit the QB. See ball get ball. He’s decent when he has no blockers in his face and has one mission that requires little thinking on his feet. In the new system where he has to see where the dline goes first and then play off that and hit the holes that they’re not in all while figuring out what’s going on in front of him and how he needs to attack each play when it’s not clear pre-snap, he just looks lost. Not to mention, despite having elite speed and agility, the dude can’t cover worth a shit.
Except that just is not true.
Kendricks signed his extension in August, 2015
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000515688/article/eagles-mychal-kendricks-reach-fouryear-extension
So, compare the year before and the year after:
Year. Extension. Games. Tackles. Solo. Assist. Sacks. PDef. Int.
’14. Pre. 12. 83. 62. 21. 4. 3. 0
’15. Post. 13. 86. 64. 22. 3. 3. 0
http://www.nfl.com/player/mychalkendricks/2532890/careerstats
There has been no nosedive.
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Kaepernick has been named the starter vs the Bills.
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Some in the media claim that people around the team claim that Kaep has been the worst out of the 3 QBs in practice while 3rd stringer Christian Ponder has looked the best of the 3
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Kaep has no future in San Fran, so this is a huge injury/contractual risk that the skins weren’t willing to take with RG3
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San fran is such a mess
But Elway drafted Osweiler
Drafted him but was willing to roll the dice with Mark Sanchez rather than pay for him.
Elway did make a last minute pitch to keep Osweiler
He made an offer, The Texans made a better one. I also think his ego got hurt being benched for Peyton
Are all (or any of) the bill Clinton allegations true ?
he did have to pay almost $1 million to the one woman who accused him. That seems to indicate something went on there
Assuming theyre 100% true not sure what difference it would make to how trump is treated right now.
Not even caring how it relates to trump
Let’s bear in mind that Bill paid BIG $ for his actions and Hillary defended him savagely for his actions. Sort of like thst blue chick in Avatar… Anyway, Donald is being roasted for things he said 11 years ago. I dare any of us to say we are the same people today thst we were 11 years ago.
Bill was bangin chicks and lying to lawyers on the nation’s payroll .. trump just hero talking on his own time
Trump is so GAUCHE. But vote him in just to see if HE sends Hillary to Jail !!!
How f in great is that!!
She’s either POTUS or OITNB !!!
Jaillary?
Yes, it’s great that if you become president, you get to jail your political opponents. And extort money out of neighboring countries to build the Great Wall of Murica. And gain power by demonizing minority races and religions. And say you’re going to make America great over and over again, without having any idea how to do it.
This sort of thing always ended well when it happened in the 20th century.
Its better if you are husband and wife team lifetime politicians on the govt payroll al your life and you now make almost 150million a year, lie and pay off rape allegations and build your own 2billion dollar fund that distributes zero dollars to charity but pays you 250K for speaking engagements. .. politics is great if you know how to smile in peoples faces and work it
which candidate are you talking about?
so “Klewi” is saying nobody talked about women in a locker room? Maybe they didn’t to him because the rumors were that he was gay.
I’d really like to have seen the scene at 1 Novacare Way during this past bye week while Jim Schwartz was watching the tape of last years Thanksgiving beat down against the Lions to see at exactly what moment during his film study did he think, “mmm…I want to see more Mychal Kendricks on Theo Riddick! That’s a winning matchup!”
Let’s hope Lane Johnson will be our only major ‘long term’ “injury”.
And I’d rather give up three TD passes against the Lions than vs Kirk frigging Cousins!
Time to go out and kick some arses in Washington!
I hadn’t thought about it that way, but if this were an injury I would still feel we were relatively healthy. Good perspective.
I saw 2 highlights of the game .. lions WR holding on their TD not called . And right in front of refs.
Late hit at end of game on #31 … which was another mistake.
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Lane Johnson will not count towards the 53 man roster during his suspension correct?
Correct
All like 8 of the cowboy fans at my work today were all making that feed me motion to each othet that zeke does after each run. Before our game I want Bradham to walk up to him and Ivan Drago him…”I must break you.”
Feed him some Cox.
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