Roster Rants

Posted: October 31st, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 544 Comments »

After last night’s painful loss, one of the things brought up by many is the quality of the Eagles roster.

“This team just isn’t that good.”

“They’re a long way away from being a real contender.”

“We’ve got some long years ahead of us.”

Huh? I don’t get this kind of talk at all. I see a roster that looks pretty good. Sure, there are some holes, but that is true of every team in the NFL. No one is set across the board.

The Eagles have a really good QB situation. I don’t think we have to discuss that too much.

The team has a trio of talented TEs. There aren’t any gamebreakers, but you don’t need those guys at TE. The O-line is pretty good, both now and seemingly into the future. Halapoulivaati Vaitai has proven he can be at least a good backup OT, if not a starter. Brandon Brooks has been solid and seems to be improving as he adjusts to the new offense. If the team decides to move on from Jason Peters after the year, they could go with Lane Johnson at that spot. He was playing really well before the suspension. Isaac Seumalo could be the long term answer at LG. We’ll have to see how that goes. Jason Kelce is one guy the team will either challenge or try to replace.

The defense is loaded with talent. Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham look like Pro Bowl DL. Jordan Hicks is an outstanding young LB. Nigel Bradham has proven to be a very good free agent signing. The Eagles might have the best FS/SS duo in the NFL.

STs is loaded. Caleb Sturgis is having a terrific year. Josh Huff has shown that he is a really good KOR. Darren Sproles is a great PR. The coverage units have been outstanding. Donnie Jones and Jon Dorenbos are both older, but continue to perform at a high level.

There really is a lot to like about this roster.

The one area on D I’d like the team to upgrade is CB. They don’t have to go hand a zillion dollars to the top free agent, but they need to add a quality veteran or relatively high pick. Or two. Save the Eric Rowe comments.

Rowe is a talented CB. He wasn’t what Jim Schwartz was looking for. Rather than trying to force a square peg into a round hole, the Eagles moved on. Jim Schwartz knows what he wants in a CB. The team can now go try to find those guys this offseason.

Obviously I left out WR and RB. This is one area where the Eagles need an upgrade. We all know it. All you have to do is watch a few highlights from the Dallas game. Dez Bryant went up and made a great catch over Nolan Carroll. That tied the game. DGB and Nelson Agholor each had chances to make much easier Red Zone catches and they dropped the ball. Not only could they not make the spectacular play, they couldn’t make the average play. That’s a problem.

Think about how things looked when Ezekial Elliott had the ball in his hands. You constantly had to hold your breath, scared he was a step away from breaking a huge play. Dallas didn’t have that fear when the Eagles RBs were running the ball. And even here, the RBs failed to do the simple. Wendell Smallwood had a crucial fumble in the 4th Qtr. The Eagles were up 10. They had momentum. They were almost at midfield. Just hold the ball and punt. Work the clock a little bit. That’s not the end of the world.

The Eagles have the worst of both worlds right now. They don’t have elite playmakers, but they also don’t have reliable chain-movers. You really need one or the other.

I don’t get the feeling there will be a move for a WR. Trades are complicated and there isn’t a slam-dunk move. Still, Howie Roseman is aggressive so never say never. You can bet the Eagles will go for skill players in the offseason. They know Carson Wentz needs weapons. This is a good, but not great roster. The Eagles need playmakers to help them take the next step.


544 Comments on “Roster Rants”

  1. 1 Roster Rants - said at 11:18 PM on October 31st, 2016:

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  2. 2 Henly Rodriguez said at 11:27 PM on October 31st, 2016:

    I mentioned this on Twitter earlier (I don’t have many followers, so I have no idea why I’m mentioning this), but I think the Eagles should cut into Nelson Agholor’s snaps a little bit. Give Huff some more outside looks, or activate Treggs next week. Something needs to happen. I would be pleased to see the team activate Paul Turner from the practice squad… I know he’s an unproven player with limited upside, but at least he showed some reliable hands in the summer, something the Eagles are deprived of.

  3. 3 eagleyankfan said at 2:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Huff will be good more looks…but not on the field if reports are true..

  4. 4 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 5:58 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Huff, isn’t going anywhere this year or next year, he is so important on special teams. Each week we make it a point to add in the offence consistently.

  5. 5 daveH said at 9:23 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Huff going to get an hour of play time a day at DOC

  6. 6 mark2741 said at 4:08 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    How’d that prediction work out? : )

  7. 7 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 7:07 AM on November 25th, 2016:

    A long overdue response in regards to my comment about Huff. You made me laugh out loud with your response. This is why I love this blog. Outspoken Eagles fans that are real. Thank you for the smartass comment! I truly do appreciate it.

  8. 8 ProbablyDrunk said at 11:28 PM on October 31st, 2016:

    2012 and 2016 were the only draft classes Roseman had full GM control so far. 2012 speaks for itself. So far this year, we have Wentz, Smallwood, Vaitai, and Mills contributing at least. I’m BIG on Seumalo too

    Decided to stop caring about this season because I can’t even enjoy it with the refs for one. But also because I’m more excited for the future than anything else.

    Howie being set in stone as our GM in such a crucial time to build (franchise QB on rookie contract) is probably bigger than people think

  9. 9 anon said at 12:19 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Howie has more excuses than sam bradford.

  10. 10 ProbablyDrunk said at 12:23 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    If by excuses you mean unfortunate circumstances sure. I try to be more objective than that

  11. 11 Buge Halls said at 11:08 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    By “excuses” do you mean both coaches (Reid and Chipper) saying that they had full control of their drafts? Those excuses? If it was just Howie saying it, that would be one thing, but when the coaches tell you they were the ones making the picks, maybe you should believe them.

    I’ll be happy with the man than managed to swing a 1st (and a 4th) round pick for Bradford.

  12. 12 Gary Barnes said at 1:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    He was heavily involved in drafts prior to 2012. Reid still had final say though.

    He had final say over Chip for the 2013 and 2014 drafts. In 2015, Chip wrested control away from Roseman and is responsible for that draft.

    Roseman can stand on his own record without people making excuses or ignoring parts of the record that are not as shiny. For the most part, he has done a decent job drafting; some really good, some good, some bad and some really bad like most GMs.

  13. 13 ProbablyDrunk said at 2:40 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I think the team said themselves that Roseman didn’t have draft board control or final say until 2012. I don’t really blame him for any of those picks as he wasn’t the guy. 2013 and 2014 the world may never know, but I’m sure all those PAC-12 players weren’t a coincidence.

  14. 14 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 1:05 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Doesn’t equate to making a difference. I have high hopes for Wentz and Mills. They both play with confidence.

  15. 15 Ray888 said at 11:28 PM on October 31st, 2016:

    There’s a good route running, sure handed WR on the practice squad. Promote him. NOW! Speed doesn’t matter if you can’t get open and can’t catch the ball. Paul Turner has to be better.

  16. 16 Henly Rodriguez said at 11:36 PM on October 31st, 2016:

    I agree. It can’t possibly get any worse.

  17. 17 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:50 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I mean we are only throwing 5 yard passes at this point anyhow. That said I prefer to see Treggs.

    Even the occasional shot down field goes along way towards keeping the D honest. Thats probably the most annoying thing about last nights play calling

  18. 18 Ark87 said at 11:20 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The issue isn’t that we lack contributors, which I’m sure Turner could be, we need a play maker, preferably a #1 receiver, which we don’t have buried on this roster. Basically all these guys would likely be fine if there was a threat to be dealt with somewhere on the field. I like Turner and I would like to see him active, but he won’t improve the current WR woes.

  19. 19 iceberg584 said at 11:30 PM on October 31st, 2016:

    Profitable outcome for the Eagles tonight on MNF. If we do find ourselves fighting for a wild card spot in December, the Vikings may be the team we’re jockeying with.

  20. 20 the guy said at 11:54 PM on October 31st, 2016:

    Disagree about the TEs. Celek is done, Ertz can’t ever break a tackle (which is useful in a TE) or reliably catch the ball, and Burton is a projection.

    The OL is not good now or in the future. At [projected] left tackle you have 34 year old Jason Peters or twice suspended Lane Johnson. At center, you have Kelce, who is what he is. The rest is pure optimism.

  21. 21 Dominik said at 1:56 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ertz can’t ever break a tackle (which is useful in a TE) or reliably catch the ball

    I know it’s a running gag, but it’s actual a running gag with a lot of factual truth to it: Ertz is pathetic at Yards after Catch. He has 2.3 Yards after Catch per reception. That’s more than your gut tells you (which is basically 0, since he gets always tackled to the ground by the first Defender), but it’s the 15th worst rate out of 300 receivers who are named here

    The funny thing is: out of the 14 players who are even worse than him statistically in that regard, there are some good players. Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, Ted Gin Jr. (wow, since he’s a deep ball threat) and Terrelle Pryor.

    But at least they are producing more Yards than Ertz. They are all WR, though, which plays a role, too (you kind of expect a 6’5+, 250 pounds+ player to be hard to bring down when they catch the ball).

    On a side note: Agholor has the 17th worst YAC per reception rating at 2.4.

  22. 22 kimsarah said at 11:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Good point. Kelce is what he is.

  23. 23 kimsarah said at 11:39 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    By the way, next to Sproles, the TE can be the big weapon on offense. Eagles have had plenty of opportunities in recent years to draft a good TE and have passed.

  24. 24 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 1:01 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Kelce played at a different level with Chip K. calling the plays and with McCoy in the backfield. Those times have passed, so it’s time for a mauler in the center, more so than an undersized center who can’t get to the second level consistently. If you can’t start protecting Wentz initially, how is the second level blocking possible?

  25. 25 Insomniac said at 12:11 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I wonder if we could take a chance on Kniles Davis. Cut Barner since he’s easily replaced by Smallwood.

  26. 26 anon said at 12:17 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    no. if we create a roster spot almost have to bring up one of those WRs with hands.

  27. 27 Insomniac said at 12:34 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I like Turner but he’s not the answer.

  28. 28 BlindChow said at 1:58 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Says the guy who thinks the RB the team most desperate for a RB just cut is the answer.

  29. 29 izzylangfan said at 12:13 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Three tight ends but Celek is getting old and Ertz can’t block, break tackles or catch.

  30. 30 CrackSammich said at 1:28 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    It’s like nobody remembers the first pass plat of the fucking year.

  31. 31 Iskar36 said at 8:46 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Plenty of JAG receivers make the occasional circus catch. THE NFL is all about consistency. Ertz has struggled being consistent. He has been in the league for to long to just value him on potential. HE hasn’t produced at the level you want him to be producing. Does that make him an awful player? Of course not. But he also is a very replaceable player.

  32. 32 Rellihcs said at 1:49 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ertz can block and catch. Quite well. There’s abundant proof. Being 33% correct is atrocious.

  33. 33 Mitchell said at 12:54 AM on November 1st, 2016:


  34. 34 Greg Tulino said at 1:00 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I absolutely believe that Carson Wentz is going to be a good QB for the Eagles for a long time. There are a few things I want to see from him this season. Can he win us a game in the last few minutes of play? That did not happen in Detroit, Washington or Dallas. I recognize we need to provide him with better weapons and I expect that we will. I would also like to see him extend more drives with his feet. It is so deflating to a defense that covers well, but they can’t account for the QB moving the chains with their feet.

    There is definitely talent on this roster. I think it will take 2 future off-seasons to get the weapons on offense at WR, RB and O-line that Carson needs. Upgrades at CB and LB will also be needed. Isn’t it great that we got that 1st round pick from the Vikings! One of these spots should come with that pick.

    Finally and off topic a bit I would be fine if the Eagles just cut Nelson Agholor. I would love for the Eagles to make a statement that says if you do not do your job or live up to expectations then there is no place for you on this roster. That’s just my opinion. I have lost faith in Nelson.

  35. 35 Dave said at 8:04 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    “Can he win us a game in the last few minutes of play?”

    I’ve read this more than once now. I don’t get it. If he doesn’t have good receivers that get open and/or make routine catches, why is that even a question?

    Are you inferring that he hasn’t proven he won’t crumble under pressure at the end of the game. Or is this the great Sam Bradford debate that he needs to “elevate his teammates” or similar baloney?

    The only way he will lead us to a win in the last few minutes of play will be if the receivers do their job and the play calls are aggressive, something Doug has shied away from lately.

  36. 36 Buge Halls said at 11:12 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    By lately, do you mean the last game? Bet you (and all the other bandwaggoners) were quite happy with his play calling during the Vikings game. The main reason the Eagles lost Monday night is the same reason we lost to Detroit – costly 4th qtr fumbles. Not the play calling. When you have a cobbled together OL, your play calling is going to be a little more conservative than otherwise.

  37. 37 Dave said at 11:28 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Bandwaggoner? Huh! Troll much?

  38. 38 Buge Halls said at 11:12 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Just calling you out son. You’re all happy after three wins, then crying after a couple losses and looking to change everything – textbook definition of a bandwaggoner!

  39. 39 Dave said at 11:14 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    “Just calling you out son.” So am I troll!

  40. 40 kimsarah said at 11:40 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I think Wentz can, and will win games in the last few minutes of play — if his receivers can learn how to catch.

  41. 41 John Galt said at 1:02 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The loss stings, but I still think the Eagles get to 10-6. I know people hate looking ahead but I think they beat the Ravens and Bengals, win 3 of the 4 division games (Sunday and 2 of the 3 home games) and 1 of the other 3 (falcons, packers or Seahawks). Question is – with 4 AFC wins does that get the Eagles in the playoffs?

    It’s more fun to think about than the loss…

  42. 42 Greg Tulino said at 1:06 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Impossible to tell if 10 wins gets us a W/C birth until we see how the rest of the conference shakes out over the next month. Although having 6 losses in the conference probably does not bode well for us.

  43. 43 ChoTime said at 1:20 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I don’t know the question, but I do know the answer: Turnerzzzzzz.

  44. 44 A_T_G said at 7:50 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Well, you are okay if the question was who lead the Nat Turner rebellion. If the question was who is Tina Turner’s father, though, the answer would be Bullockzzzzzzz, which would confuse people looking for LB help.

  45. 45 Corry said at 9:05 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    It’s also the a reasonable answer for who started the CNN network, which is of course Ted Turner.

  46. 46 BlindChow said at 1:54 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    They had momentum.

    There is no bigger fallacy in football commentary than the concept of “momentum.”

  47. 47 bill said at 8:16 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Momentum as momentum, sure. Momentum as a stand in for a psychological process where players become confident, stop thinking, and just “do their job” because it has been working so well? I think there’s something to that, definitely. But all takes is a big play against to wreck that psyche.

  48. 48 Tumtum said at 9:01 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    You are correct and there is no question.

  49. 49 BlindChow said at 10:08 AM on November 1st, 2016:


    Here’s a pretty good case against the concept of momentum.

    But I understand, people cling to these old ideas pretty fiercely and don’t like seeing them challenged.

  50. 50 Buge Halls said at 11:14 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Do you always let other people think for you? I don’t really think I’m going to let Harvard Sports tell me anything about football!

  51. 51 BlindChow said at 2:53 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I could ask you the same thing.

    But it’s better you don’t read the article anyway. Some people can’t handle their notions being challenged by logical argumentation.

  52. 52 Buge Halls said at 11:11 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Your only responses are to post links to what others have written – you’ve made no argument of you own to convince anybody. Now, please, post a link to another article to refute me, I’ll wait while you cruise Google looking for a relevant article.

  53. 53 BlindChow said at 3:21 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Yeah, I suppose to you, “Momentum’s real, I just know it is!” is a convincing argument. You probably read that and patted yourself on the back for agreeing.

    I found several interesting articles that laid things out way more thoughtfully and convincingly than I could, so I linked them. I thought I’d share them with people here. If you don’t like that, I really couldn’t give a shit.

  54. 54 Tumtum said at 11:39 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’ll try and read that at lunch. My clinging to a phenomenon I have experienced first hand in sport many times over, is just old fashioned I guess.

  55. 55 bsuperfi said at 3:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I cant say I did more than skim that Harvard paper, but there are some real complexities to deal with for either side of the debate. First, I’m wondering about study design and specifically about grain size and variable selection. E.g. The study focuses on effects of first downs, but what if we start to see effects after a certain number of offensive plays? Or what if the right unit is quarters, or halves, or even games?

    As a social scientist who looks to job qualitative and quantitative data, my second thought is about how the concept of momentum could seem random from solid statistical analyses. But this analysis doesn’t tell you why some drives succeed and some fail–only that success happens every so often. Player and team psyche would conceivably be an important causal factor. Given the reported experience of so many athletes, I’d actually bet it is.

  56. 56 BlindChow said at 4:08 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    That goes back to the inherently amorphous definition of “momentum” in the first place. Some people here seem to be defining it as the confidence level of individual players. We’ve both seen teams “quit” during a particularly brutal game (presumably related to the team’s “psyche”), though I don’t think that would qualify as an example of the momentum we’re be talking about.

    Anyway, you might find the “Logical Argument” part of this Bill Barnwell article interesting:

    It addresses how different biases (and the basic human tendency to search for patterns in randomness) tend to reinforce how and when people see momentum when watching sports…

  57. 57 BlindChow said at 10:18 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The thing is, we only cite it when there’s a big play. Teams fall apart all the time without the prerequisite big play damaging their psyche. Momentum in sports is basically a kind of confirmation bias. We never think about it when the circumstances aren’t exactly right to prove it exists.

  58. 58 Ark87 said at 8:18 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I think there is something to it, though momentum is a misnomer. It seems more like a cycle continually rattling a bunch of parts until they fall in place, then things work really well until it rattles apart. You can definitely see when a team is tired and frustrated vs when it’s clicking.

  59. 59 Tumtum said at 9:00 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    In my personal experience momentum is one of the most obvious forces in any sport to the player. Not to mention “Mo” was Brian Dawkin’s favorite team mate. Who am I to tell him he is full of it?

  60. 60 meteorologist said at 11:29 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’m sorry, it’s pretty absurd to deny momentum. If you have ever played sports or anything highly competitive, you know once you get in a state of “flow”, you perform better, and have the “momentum”

  61. 61 BlindChow said at 2:57 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    What happens when both teams enter a state of “flow”? Do they cancel each other out, or…?

  62. 62 meteorologist said at 3:10 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Suppose you could define momentum as “your flow” minus “opponent’s flow”…
    But why define it? It’s pretty obviously a thing. The problem comes when analytics ppl try to define it and they do so wierdly

  63. 63 BlindChow said at 4:01 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ha, I see I’ve apparently shaken a fist at the Religion of Sports. Yikes.

    The whole point of defining it would be to prove (or disprove) it exists. I understand why you’d be hesitant though.

  64. 64 meteorologist said at 4:44 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Individual momentum absolutely exists (see Sturgis for example). Team momentum is open for argument imo

  65. 65 BlindChow said at 5:06 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Yeah, I can definitely see an individual’s confidence affecting his performance. (And not just Sturgis; look at what happened to Parkey and Henery!) Team momentum is the one I’m skeptical about…

  66. 66 meteorologist said at 4:50 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Feel like it exists or doesn’t exist depending on how you define it

  67. 67 BlindChow said at 1:55 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    At least we got to see the Vikings exposed again. Fingers crossed for 5-11 and a top ten pick!

  68. 68 TXEaglesFan said at 7:11 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    how about 6-10 with that one win against cowboys?

  69. 69 BlindChow said at 2:03 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Sam Bradford is going to laugh his way to another big contract if the Vikings cut him next year…

    “Hey, he had no offensive line or run game!” his advocates and accountant will insist.

  70. 70 anon said at 4:50 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    ironic how we spend the whole day talking about how bad the eagles are talent-wise but still think sam was the problem last year.

  71. 71 Tumtum said at 8:51 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I don’t feel like anyone around here really thought that. I do think we are pretty amused at how great he is being hyped as now. He was solid, and we were hoping for improvement. He was by no means perfect.

  72. 72 BlindChow said at 10:13 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Funny how you can’t remember a single complaint made against any other player last year. I’m starting to think you have a serious persecution complex.

    You know, it’s entirely possible that both Sam AND the team were bad last year! (It isn’t like he hasn’t had seven years to show who he is or anything…)

  73. 73 ChoTime said at 10:21 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Hear, hear for complexity and nuance!

  74. 74 一生一世套图 said at 2:19 AM on November 1st, 2016:


  75. 75 Dave said at 8:09 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    So true…

  76. 76 Tdoteaglefan said at 8:14 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’ve been obsessed with the possibilty of Joe thomas, staley or deandre hopkins ending up on our roster by 4pm today.

    The hopkins speculation seems ridiculous at face value, but they’ve been having issues with negotiations (he held out of training camp for a bit this offseason). His productions fallen off a cliff, and obrien studied under. Bellichek and may subscribe to that “patriot way” school of thought of making an example out of anybody who wants more money or may leave in free agency.
    They drafted fuller and miller this year. We have a good relationship and history of trading with the texans and Howie never makes the move that most people expect..jeffery and smith could be a smokescreen to gain leverage.

    Im just trying to connect some dots…all this sherlock holmes shit im doing may be an exercise in futility but its fun to dream damnit!

  77. 77 Tumtum said at 8:49 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    You can put Deandre right out of your head. That is their best offensive player. That would be like trading Wentz.

  78. 78 A_T_G said at 9:35 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wentz for Hopkins? That is crazy!

    (I know, you didn’t suggest it, but someone was going to read it that way)

  79. 79 Tumtum said at 11:40 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Just so crazy it might work?

  80. 80 Ark87 said at 11:44 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    We just have to hush hush sign another guy named Carson Wentz, there must be one somewhere, the poor Texans would be so sad when a pot-bellied 63 year old stoner from Holland gets off the plane.

  81. 81 bill said at 8:33 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    As bad as the receivers are (and admittedly, they’re frustrating to an amazing degree), are they *that* much worse than what McNabb had when the Eagles went to 4 straight NFC championships? I’m willing to look for someone sure-handed to bring in, or a pure speedster (although I would think that DGB could easily fill the deep threat need), but WR is not one of my top 3 areas of concern on this roster.

    The OL is currently a 34 year-old freak of nature that has stayed unusually healthy so far this year (compared to the last few). Rely on projecting that into the future at your own peril. The other tackle is currently serving his 2nd PED suspension, and is another high risk gamble going forward due to it. Brooks is starting to live up to his billing, so that ‘s good. Barbre is a journeyman who makes Peters look like Cal Ripken when it comes to durability, and is reaching the end of his career. Kelce looks like he’s fading fast, physically. Vaitai has looked serviceable, so long as you don’t want to pass the ball downfield and take the risk that he gets cleanly beat to the inside and allows your franchise QB to get mauled. Semaulo is pure projection, but let us say he is the replacement for Kelce or Barbre going forward and represents an improvement. That’s still 3/5 of the line that I’m not comfortable with going forward. And given that they’re trying to groom a young franchise QB, that’s scary. Nothing ruins a young QB faster than playing behind a sieve of constantly rotating JAGs. I’m afraid we’re already seeing it, as Wentz is apparently checking out of deep throws fairly consistently.

    OL is a *massive* priority this offseason. At least one big FA (if a good fit is actually available) and a high draft pick would seem to be necessary. CB and RB also obviously need some attention, too. WR comes in no higher than 4th for me. I wouldn’t mind drafting a big (huge, if possible), slowish TE to replace Celek as a blocker/possession receiver (Wentz tends to miss high, so might as well play to it), but that can be addressed later in the draft.

  82. 82 Tumtum said at 8:48 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I will say that McNabb had sure hands in Thrash and speed in Pinkston. Obviously later in his time here his weapons were 10x better.

  83. 83 Mitchell said at 9:17 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    It all starts with keeping the franchise safe. While the WR are super frustrating, who is the most important person on this team? Wentz, protect him.

  84. 84 Tumtum said at 8:47 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Well said Tommy. I guess the most encouraging part to me is that many of these under preforming guys have a pedigree and supposed work ethic that suggest the light could just come on. Not counting on it anymore. Always hoping… MS2 had the only sack for us Sunday..

  85. 85 D3FB said at 9:14 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Barwin unblocked on the final play of regulation

  86. 86 Tumtum said at 11:41 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Missed that one. Went over in the other room, thought it sounded like they were taking a knee.

  87. 87 RobNE said at 9:31 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    frustrated by our loss but got a little spring in my step this morning when I saw the Vikings lost. Would love to see them not make the playoffs.

  88. 88 ChoTime said at 10:16 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Swings and misses:

    Jordan Hicks. 1.5 years, 66 tackles
    Marcus Smith. 2.5 years, 8 tackles (but hey, he’s improving!)

    Jeremy Maclin 2015-2016, 1450 yards, 10 TD
    Nelson Agholor, same time period, 499 yards, 2 TD
    Freddie Mitchell, 2001-2002, 388 yards, 1 TD *backup

  89. 89 BlindChow said at 10:19 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    It would probably be fairer to compare Agholor’s first two years to Maclin’s first two years…

  90. 90 ChoTime said at 10:24 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    But in a sense we swapped them out. Pay a lil’ more money, we’d have Mac and that 1st round draft pick (to waste on someone else 🙂 Ask and you shall receive:

    Jeremy Maclin first 2 years: 1737 yards, 14 TD

    Like that better? 🙂

  91. 91 Buge Halls said at 11:19 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    J-mac doesn’t (and didn’t) have a rookie QB throwing to him either

  92. 92 A_T_G said at 4:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Surely you are not blaming Agholor’s struggles on Sam and Carson?

  93. 93 Buge Halls said at 11:09 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    No, and don’t call me Shirley

  94. 94 Dave said at 11:19 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    “Pay a lil’ more money”

    When did $10M/year become a lil’ more?

  95. 95 ChoTime said at 1:08 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ain’t ma money!

  96. 96 Corry said at 10:25 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I think it’s a bit unfair to compare Hicks and Smith based on tackle numbers. One guy plays a position that rushes the passer and sets the edge and funnels plays back inside, the other is playing the position thats getting stuff funnelled back to him.

    That said, Smith isn’t even close to being the player Hicks currently is. It’s like tee ball vs MLB.

  97. 97 ChoTime said at 10:33 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Okay, how about to another DE?

    Brandon Graham last 2.5 years, 92 tackles
    Marcus Smith. 2.5 years, 8 tackles (but hey, he’s improving!)

  98. 98 BlindChow said at 10:55 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    How about per snap? It’s not Marcus’ fault he’s sitting behind some studs!

  99. 99 Corry said at 11:56 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Stud. Singular.

  100. 100 ChoTime said at 1:07 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    There is some truth to that. I also cheated by including Graham’s last two seasons, not his first two 🙂

  101. 101 ACViking said at 11:39 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Marcus Smith . . . vs. . . . Vinny Curry:

    2016: MS has 1 sack, 5 tackles

    2016: VC has 1 sack, 5 tackles (3 assists).

    Ugh oh.

  102. 102 Tumtum said at 11:44 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    People are giving Cox a ton of guff. Vinny is the one who they should be upset with. What is going on with ole VC? D3FB?

  103. 103 Ark87 said at 11:50 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    I see both Fletcher and Curry being very disruptive, stat lines just aren’t being kind. Don’t get me wrong they need to improve. But their performance shouldn’t considered congruent to MSII, who gets put on to ground waaay too often, just not in the play.

  104. 104 ChoTime said at 1:06 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I think the DL is being very disruptive. To, me they were penetrating a lot on Sunday on an excellent OL, and Dak’s pocket movement and agility prevented them from getting their numbers.

  105. 105 D3FB said at 10:16 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Vinny apparently fucked his knee up at some point late in the preseason or week 1. It’s braced, and I’m guessing that’s effecting him. Also Schwartz is pulling a Babin with his insistence on getting Barwin all the snaps.

  106. 106 Sb2bowl said at 3:02 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    He doesn’t have the same explosion as normal getting off his stance. That jump used to set him apart from other DE’s and give him a distinct advantage rushing inside and out. Guards couldn’t handle his initial step and he would be past them in a blink.

    With almost half of the season gone, I’m hoping he can rebound with a strong push as we go. But that doesn’t look promising

  107. 107 ChoTime said at 1:04 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Well played 🙂 (not them, you)

  108. 108 ChoTime said at 10:35 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    By the way, ex-Eagle and my ex-bandmate Nick Foles was sighted on an NFL field:

    “As Chiefs coach Andy Reid stated in his postgame presser, Foles wasn’t afraid to sling it around on Sunday, and some of the numbers from Pro Football Focus further illustrate that point.

    Via PFF, “In 48 snaps this week, Foles averaged 9.7 yards per target, which would be the fifth-highest figure in the league (if he had a qualifying number of snaps).””

    Foles 16/22, 223 yards, 2 TD, QB rating: 135

  109. 109 BlindChow said at 10:44 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Quarterback controversy in KC!

  110. 110 ACViking said at 11:42 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The “RAInMaKEr” lives.

  111. 111 ACViking said at 11:31 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    If Doug Pederson were calling the plays in KC . . .

    Foles would have been: 16-22, 105 yards 1 TD, QB rating 97.27.

    Lot’s of: “stretch the defense horizontally – attack 1-2 yards past LOS — excpt on critical 3rd down plays in 4th Q . . . then attack 5-6 yds BEHIND the LOS, using your injured center who can’t run as the single blocker.”

  112. 112 Tumtum said at 11:42 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The streaky nature of Foles feels like a great argument to insert in the momentum discussion elsewhere on the board.

  113. 113 BlindChow said at 3:32 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ha, I actually came across another article that specifically looks at streakiness and momentum (on a series-to-series basis)!

    (It’s, uh, pretty math heavy though; the conclusion seems to be that any streakiness is far below what people would refer to as “momentum,” and is way more akin to what you’d expect through random chance.

    I realize this type of statistical analysis might be a bit esoteric, given that proponents of momentum theory lean towards the “I know it when I see it” argument, but I still found it pretty interesting…)

  114. 114 Tumtum said at 3:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    More light reading to do :). Lunch didn’t happen today so now I’m backed up!

  115. 115 BlindChow said at 4:15 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Haha, well, if you find the time, you might find it an interesting read!

    (I honestly didn’t realize it would be such a contentious subject when I first brought it up; I would have been far softer in my initial comments! Politics, Religion, and Momentum, the big three…)

  116. 116 ChoTime said at 6:09 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Eye test, baby!

  117. 117 RobNE said at 11:20 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    How does Belicheat get away with not rewarding his players with big contracts and yet not losing more people to other teams in FA? I would think the message being sent is, we won’t pay you top dollar. And since football players’ careers are short and their contracts not guaranteed even, I would think Pats would lose talent with this approach.

    I know they have lost a player here and there.

  118. 118 Birds4Life said at 11:32 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Having a legitimate chance to win the SB every year I’m sure has something to do with that.

  119. 119 Ark87 said at 11:35 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The Coach is a Jerk. He doesn’t value you, Will almost certainly replace you with a rookie when your rookie contract is expiring. Accordingly he won’t pay you much if he does resign you. History tells us his Coaches and players don’t acquire anything in terms of experience and personal growth that they can take somewhere else and thrive with.

    The only perk, they win. In a cynical league, it must be said that Belichick gets players that put winning above all else. And if it isn’t, he will drop you without a second thought.

  120. 120 Tumtum said at 11:37 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    The thing about competitors is that they want to win…

  121. 121 Anders said at 12:21 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Winning makes everything sweeter

  122. 122 Bert's Bells said at 12:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Cheater or not, he’s on the short list for GOAT HC. That’s money in the bank.

  123. 123 anon said at 1:43 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    winning champoinships

  124. 124 Ark87 said at 11:57 AM on November 1st, 2016:

    Anyone else here tired of the empty backfield formations? Like not just with us. I hated seeing it on the Cowboys. Like wtf are you doing, how is it in anyway a good idea to let the defense have a play off from worrying about Zeke running the ball?

    I never bought the “those short passes are the way this offense runs the ball”
    You can’t play-action off a short pass (no a pump fake at a 3 yard route won’t freeze a safety on the other side of the field)

  125. 125 Corry said at 12:32 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I also hate the “short pass is our run game” concept. The play action pass is important for not just the deep shots but the intermediate stuff as well. It opens up a lot of the field if you can get the linebackers to cheat up…even more if the safeties bite hard as well.

  126. 126 Anders said at 12:33 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    DVOA Top 12 Preview: PHI DAL DEN NE ATL SEA GB MIN BUF KC OAK PIT. Commentary later today on, but… (1/2)— Aaron Schatz (@FO_ASchatz) 1. november 2016

  127. 127 ChoTime said at 1:01 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wow, NFC East representing!

  128. 128 meteorologist said at 3:15 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Washington close too? Wouldn’t be surprising

  129. 129 Corry said at 12:44 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Les Bowen tweeting that Josh Huff had a run in with the police this morning. No details though.

  130. 130 Bert's Bells said at 12:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Damn, beat me by a second!

    Probably wasn’t for speeding.

  131. 131 Corry said at 12:46 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Unless it was like REALLY speeding a la Jason Peters.

    Also, I make my living as a computer programmer so I type stupid fast and sometimes in English….thankfully autocorrect is a thing.

  132. 132 Bert's Bells said at 12:44 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Word has it that Huff had a run in with the 5-0 on the WW Bridge.

  133. 133 Nailed It! said at 12:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Just about to post that too. Let’s wait to hear what it it.

  134. 134 Corry said at 12:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Welp, per CSNPhilly, Huff was speeding….with weed and a gun. I presume he was also in a car.

  135. 135 ChoTime said at 1:01 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Oh, god.

  136. 136 Tdoteaglefan said at 12:57 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    looks like Bryce Treggs or Turner will be activated this week

  137. 137 Dave said at 1:02 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The Josh Huff version of a growth mindset…thanks Chip

  138. 138 ChoTime said at 1:12 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    He needs to move to Arizona. You’re allowed to carry guns here and we have a referendum on marijuana on the ballot.

  139. 139 MattE said at 1:31 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    i need to move there lol

  140. 140 Flyineagle45 said at 1:05 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Let’s get T.O!!!!

  141. 141 MattE said at 1:39 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I wouldnt mind Mike Vick suiting up as a WR at this point lol

  142. 142 Dave said at 1:18 PM on November 1st, 2016:

  143. 143 Corry said at 1:19 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    This is plausible.

  144. 144 SteveH said at 1:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Dark, but I like it.

  145. 145 Nick C said at 1:27 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    There’s your sign Howie!! Alshawnnn Jefferayzzzz…
    Really though, I’d do it. We draft like shit.

  146. 146 Rambo said at 1:36 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Eagles WR Josh Huff was arrested early Tuesday morning on speeding and marijuana charges in Philadelphia.
    Huff also had a gun. It’s unclear if he possessed the proper permit. “We are aware of the incident today involving Josh Huff,” the team said in a statement. “At this point, we are gathering more information.” The Chip Kelly holdover has 13 catches for 72 yards through six games. His roster spot is likely in danger.

  147. 147 anon said at 1:40 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    It’s dangerous to be an eagles player riding through philly these days if your name isn’t Wentz or Sproles. Probably had the weed to help him forget about the drops.

  148. 148 MattE said at 1:42 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Mike Wallace? I don’t see Baltimore doing to much this year. Burner, decent hands, proven somewhat, having good year, and still under contract @ $8mill in 2017.

  149. 149 anon said at 1:44 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Not coming here – doubt they let him leave – think he’s the only WR they have at the moment.

  150. 150 MattE said at 1:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I would say Sammy Watkins on the cheap, but that foot scares me.

  151. 151 anon said at 1:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Yeah it’s been an issue every year. Honestly, I think we have good pass catchers, they just spend more time blocking than running routes. Be nice to get the OL fixed.

  152. 152 MattE said at 1:47 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    “The Eagles have the worst of both worlds right now. They don’t have elite playmakers, but they also don’t have reliable chain-movers. You really need one or the other.”

    This comment peaked my attention cause Tommy is right, we need a legit burner or some really good hands (Eddie Royal anyone?) anyone to take some pressure off JMatt & Ertz, whom i assume is all opposing defenses are actually worried about.

  153. 153 anon said at 1:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Never thought I’d see the day where we’d be jealous of Eddie Royal.

  154. 154 MattE said at 1:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    everytime he plays us I curse his name….hence if he were to come here he would be awful lol

  155. 155 MattE said at 1:49 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    personally i think there are better options than Torrey Smith and that contract

  156. 156 Tumtum said at 2:18 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    You mean Eagle Slayer Royal?

  157. 157 MattE said at 1:53 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wonder what Jason Avant is doing

  158. 158 Dave said at 1:57 PM on November 1st, 2016:

  159. 159 Media Mike said at 5:42 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    His hands move much faster than his legs ever did.

  160. 160 Gary Barnes said at 2:02 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The positions that need improvement/upgrades IMO are:


    I’d also be scrutinizing the evaluations on the WR coach Greg Lewis and OL coach Jeff Stoutland. There is a good amount of talent at both those positions, but they have not developed or developed very slowly/inconsistently.

    Talent development is a critical area we have struggled with for years.

  161. 161 anon said at 2:08 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Agree with the coaching changes. I think honestly CB/LB/RB are fine – you’re not going to have studs at every position, especially since we have limited draft assets and are spending a lot of money on a DL that’s been very productive.

  162. 162 Bert's Bells said at 2:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’d like to have more than Sproles as a reliable option at RB. Barner has a history of putting the ball on the turf too.

    You can have one out of four backs with Tiki hands as long as they have Tiki skills. 3 out of 4? Tough.

  163. 163 MattE said at 2:10 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    good point about Lewis

  164. 164 Tumtum said at 2:21 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I would only pass on a QB and maybe a DL in the draft if they were my BPA.

  165. 165 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:45 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Can never go wrong strengthening your DL or OL

  166. 166 Tumtum said at 2:15 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Just as I lobby for Huff to get more touches…

  167. 167 Blackfoot said at 2:26 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    oh he’s going to get a lot more touches

  168. 168 Dave said at 3:39 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Problem is, he’s not paying for those touches.

  169. 169 BlindChow said at 3:03 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Quick, lobby for Agholor to get more touches!

  170. 170 A_T_G said at 4:32 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Unfortunately, with Agholor’s hands, putting cuffs on him wouldn’t change much.

  171. 171 ChoTime said at 9:05 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    That’s what she said!

  172. 172 P_P_K said at 9:54 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    You’re on a roll!

  173. 173 anon said at 8:18 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ags already had his run in with the law.

  174. 174 eagleyankfan said at 2:25 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wouldn’t a big upgrade at WR and RB = “long way”? We know they need upgrades. Getting it done is another matter…

  175. 175 GermanEagle said at 2:33 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The more I think about it, the more I happen to believe Huff did this on purpose, basically asking for his release..

  176. 176 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 3:05 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Um why

  177. 177 GermanEagle said at 3:25 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Because you seriously cannot be that stupid, can you?!

  178. 178 John Galt said at 3:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    You obviously did not play sports at a high level (at least in America- can’t speak for Germany). The level of intellect that most of these guys have is so shockingly low you wouldn’t believe it.

  179. 179 A_T_G said at 4:31 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    “Most” seems a bit strong. One could make an argument that, because kids who find success on the field but not the classroom are driven to work harder, the average might be lower than the general population.

    Just as important, maybe more, is how many of these guys never faced consequences for their actions because coaches and boosters wanted them on the field.

  180. 180 John Galt said at 5:26 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Its more than that. I know its the internet and everyone makes a million dollars and whatever, but I did play fairly high level D1 basketball (borderline top 25 program then and now). To be successful at that level and certainly at the NFL level, it takes an almost illogical belief in self, something that someone of average or above intelligence who has some perspective on the outside world just usually doesn’t have.
    For example, on my team in school, if you asked every one of the guys on the team (except me – which is probably why I never amounted to much at that level) what their plans for after school were – they would all tell you with zero hesitation that they were going to play in the NBA. Never mind that there were 30 better teams than us, exactly 2 players from my school had been drafted in the NBA in the last 10 years, and most of them never got off the bench. They were all good guys, I am friends with some of them to this day, but they had no perspective and only one of them would I have even considered of avg intelligence. That’s why they speed with pot and guns, they are invincible in their own minds. That’s why finding someone who is smart, has that level of belief in self, and has the talent to match is so rare – think Tom Brady, maybe Carson Wentz.

  181. 181 ChoTime said at 6:07 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Interesting. Thanks for the insight. I went to Bradley when Anthony Parker went to school there. I had no idea he could possible make the NBA, but I never got the chance to ask him if he did. He seemed a pretty decent guy.

  182. 182 John Galt said at 6:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Sure – it was quite a life lesson for me. I was obviously pretty good in HS, but when I got to the next level, I was constantly focused on what I couldn’t do. I’m a 6’8″ white guy who could shoot and was pretty crafty – but I couldn’t jump like those guys, I wasn’t strong like those guys, i have (relatively) short arms etc, and it totally paralyzed me. Nobody who is successful at a high level in sports worries for two seconds about what they cant do – they believe they are the best and can do everything well. That lack of perspective helps on the field/court – but hurts in life sometimes…can lead to poor decisions – like speeding with hollow point bullets, guns and weed.

  183. 183 A_T_G said at 11:00 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Yet again the IgglesBlitz crowd amazes me with its depth of insight and breadth of experiences.

  184. 184 John Galt said at 12:04 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Thanks for the kind words. Since we are on a Philly board if you are old enough you will probably remember Keith Van Horn. I played in the same conference as him back in the late 90’s so we played them a few times (he was a couple years older than me so it was only my first two years) – always thought the same thing happened to him in the pros – he had to lose his confidence because that white boy could play in college, and he was a really smart guy too.

  185. 185 A_T_G said at 8:44 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wow, interesting perspective. Thank you for taking the time to lay out that argument. That makes a lot of sense.

  186. 186 GermanEagle said at 4:42 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Thanks for the compliment.

  187. 187 SteveH said at 3:15 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I don’t think getting arrested is the best way to go about asking for your release.

  188. 188 RC5000 said at 2:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Looking at big name unrestricted free agent WRs, ages are as of now:

    Alshon Jeffery WR Age 26 – will be big money
    Vincent Jackson Age 33 – getting old
    Pierre Garcon Age 30
    Desean Jackson Age 29
    Cordarrelle Patterson Age 25

    Looking at some not so big name unrestricted free agent WRs:

    Kenny Britt Age 28
    Kenny Stills Age 24
    Markus Wheaton Age 25 (benched after drops against us) previously coached by Greg Lewis.
    Terrance Williams Age 27
    Kendall Wright Age 26 (inconsistent)
    Michael Floyd Age 26
    Terrelle Pryor Age 27

    Some speed WRs in draft possibly. There may be more:

    John Ross, Washington
    DeDe Westbrook, Oklahoma
    Taywan Taylor, W. Kentucky
    Ryan Switzer, North Carolina

  189. 189 meteorologist said at 3:12 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Kendall Wright please!!

  190. 190 Insomniac said at 3:27 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Michael Floyd who has done nothing in years is still in people’s thoughts? Wow.

  191. 191 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:38 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    True, but you never know when a change of scenery/different offense is all a guy like Crabtree needed to go from solid WR in San Fran to a bad mofo in Oakland
    But I don’t like FLoyd at all

  192. 192 anon said at 3:36 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Don’t confuse SD Chargers VJax for the one that’s on the field now. Garcon we’d hate, Patterson we’d hate, Jackson would be good – he can catc.h.
    Britt no
    Floyd no
    Stills Yes
    Wheaton – if he can catch
    Pryor ok

  193. 193 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:39 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Pryor is the only one Id be excited to take a flier on, but I wouldn’t break the bank open for him

  194. 194 GermanEagle said at 2:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Cowboys going all in.

    Might trade for Jets Sheldon Richardson… Yikes.

  195. 195 SteveH said at 3:21 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The fact that they struggled to beat us shows they’re not a super bowl team this year, so I hope they trade the farm for Richardson.

  196. 196 anon said at 3:25 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    what? who is then? Cowboys, Steelers and to a lesser extent Vikings can all compete – our team isn’t that bad.

  197. 197 SteveH said at 3:52 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The AFC is going to stomp the NFC this year I think. Pats and Broncos look like the favorites.

    In the NFC its really a toss up. I don’t think the Vikes, maybe the Cowboys, maybe the Packers, maybe the Seahawks. No real Juggernaut in the NFC this year.

    Edit: should add the Falcons as a dark horse even though I don’t really believe in Matt Ryan at all.

  198. 198 P_P_K said at 9:52 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    If the SB ends up being Cowboys vs Pats, will the Houston stadium be large enough to hold all the denizens of hell coming to root for their favorite team?

  199. 199 meteorologist said at 3:18 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Sign Kendall Wright next year

  200. 200 SteveH said at 3:21 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Well our already thin receiving core is crumbling further, what with Huff being a moron and Agholor also being a moron.

    It’s a testament to the strength that we have at certain positions that we are doing as good as we are, considering our shortcomings in other areas.

    As much as I’d love to see Jeffrey here it doesn’t make sense to trade for him since he’s going to be a UFA, and we’re not a super bowl team so we don’t need a 1 year rental. Torrey Smith would make sense if he wasn’t severely overpaid.

    Someone mentioned Mike Wallace before, he would make sense if the Ravens were willing to part with him.

    Really we need a total retool. Mathews needs to play 2nd fiddle to someone who can command some attention and DGB seems to be growing into his role albeit slowly, but bottom line is we desperately need a legit #1 guy somewhere.

    Also Ertz is wearing thin on me. Jump motherfucker, you know they’re going strait at your ankles every time.

    The good news is we might be set at QB for the next 15 years, so we’ve got time to figure this thing out.

  201. 201 Flyineagle45 said at 3:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Give a 5th for Smith, agholor and ertz and a 3rd for Jeffrey 2 4ths

  202. 202 anon said at 3:26 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Darius Heyward Bey? Martavis Bryant? Markus Wheaton?

  203. 203 Media Mike said at 5:40 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Can’t catch, holds too long without passing, can’t stay on the field.

  204. 204 GermanEagle said at 3:30 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    So Chip wants a 3rd rounder for Torrey Smith?! Lol. F U CK!

  205. 205 anon said at 3:33 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Sure we’ll give him Huff.

  206. 206 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on November 1st, 2016:


  207. 207 BlindChow said at 5:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Huff probably heard about that, so he took matters into his own hands. #HighCharacter

  208. 208 Tdoteaglefan said at 3:38 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Adam Hermann @adamwhermann

    Ed Werder, on ESPN: Eagles are willing to trade a fifth-round pick for Torrey Smith. 49ers want a third-rounder.
    3:16 PM – 1 Nov 2016

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  209. 209 anon said at 3:47 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Howie is just like fuck having to draft anyone. No o-line not sure how we’re going to take a ton of deep shots

  210. 210 Tdoteaglefan said at 3:51 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    We’ll never know who Howie’s REALLY targeting…he operates very stealthily …never allows his true target to be known

  211. 211 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    San Fran can drop dead with that demand.

  212. 212 Flyineagle45 said at 3:41 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    2 4ths for Derrick henry and Give a 5th for Smith, agholor and ertz and a 3rd for Jeffrey

  213. 213 SteveH said at 3:43 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Since we’re in fantasy land lets also trade a 6th for the robotic reincarnation of Jonathan Ogden in his prime to the Ravens.

  214. 214 Flyineagle45 said at 3:51 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Now you are on to something!!

  215. 215 A_T_G said at 4:20 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    This sounds to me like you might have already consumed a fifth.

  216. 216 SteveH said at 3:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    “The speedy Smith had issues with drops and concentration in his walk year…”


  217. 217 Dave said at 3:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’m not sure of the NFL’s policy on having a gun illegally, but for the weed charge, he will not incur a suspension (unless he is already in the program). From the NFL Substance Abuse policy below, he has to undergo treatment for a drug that is legal in many places in the US. Imagine going through a treatment plan for being a social drinker…

    Stage one

    This involves a player going through a treatment plan, and can be tested as often as the league’s medical director needs to adequately evaluate the player. A player remains in this stage for no more than 90 days, although it can be extended up to 90 additional days based on discussion between the medical director and a medical advisory. A player ends up in stage one either through behavioral issues (e.g. DUI) or a positive test result. A player can also be placed in the program directly out of college if the situation is necessary.

    If a player is in stage one and fails a test or refuses a test, he can receive a fine equal to three weeks of salary.

  218. 218 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The gun charge is really really stupid on the part of Huff. Jersey, smartly, doesn’t honor garbage out of state permits to carry concealed. How does Huff not know this?

  219. 219 PacificPurl said at 4:38 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    It seems like Huff is like many young guys who do know the rules but don’t believe they will get caught.

  220. 220 Sb2bowl said at 2:10 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Hard to say. Tinted windows and speeding in NJ usually yield a traffic stop. Add in the fact he probably had his windows rolled up while smoking weed- he didn’t stand a chance when the cop asked for his license and registration.

    How often do you speed and believe that you won’t get pulled over?

  221. 221 Sb2bowl said at 1:06 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Gotta remember- the difference between PA and NJ is about halfway across that bridge. State lines suck, and the states intentionally did that because of gun-running and mob activity years ago. Hence the stiff penalty and individual charges for each bullet (round).

    From what I can tell, this will be Huff’s first crime on record- he should get off with probation. Should.

  222. 222 Nailed It! said at 4:58 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Jimmy goes all out on Ertz and his self tacklin problem.

  223. 223 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:03 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Needs to develop a fend. Maybe some balls too.

  224. 224 GermanEagle said at 5:06 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Understandable however.

  225. 225 Dave said at 5:50 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’ve harped on his tendency to be tackled easily, but most tight ends with high YAC are running seam patterns where they are off to the races after the catch.

  226. 226 BlindChow said at 5:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Did you read the article? He’s not even getting tackled. He just drops to the ground before contact.

  227. 227 PacificPurl said at 4:34 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I’ve been saying that since last year.

  228. 228 Gary Barnes said at 9:39 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Its because he is worried about injuries IMO

  229. 229 Insomniac said at 6:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ertz learned from the best of them in Maclin while he was here.

  230. 230 Media Mike said at 5:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    “Jason Kelce is one guy the team will either challenge or try to replace.”

    Hopefully so. He’s been brutal.

  231. 231 Dave said at 5:46 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Isaac Seumalo gives the team flexibility heading into the draft since he could conceivably either replace Kelce or Babre.

  232. 232 Media Mike said at 5:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    With Barbre Doll getting her leg healed up, maybe we’ll see Seumalo active finally.

  233. 233 Dave said at 5:54 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Because we damn well know Kelce isn’t coming out unless the coaches pull him out. He has to have the John Runyon mindset knowing that if he is replaced because of injury, he’ll be done as a starter. He’d rather be ineffective and a liability to the team than come out of the game.

  234. 234 Media Mike said at 5:58 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Like on the horrible whiff on blocking Lee?

  235. 235 Sb2bowl said at 1:07 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    That was a pretty shitty play call. Sean Lee at full speed, Kelce at 60%. That’s asking a lot if Kelce is at 100%

  236. 236 John Galt said at 5:42 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Trent Williams suspended 4 games for PEDs

  237. 237 Media Mike said at 5:43 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Have they suspended the refs who let him get away with holding Graham on every f-ing snap yet?

  238. 238 John Galt said at 5:46 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Only Bean Dandino knows…

  239. 239 Media Mike said at 5:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    There’s a guy who needs to die screaming when he’s trapped in his burning car by a party bus.

  240. 240 Anders said at 4:33 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I always laugh on Twitter when somebody shows a great block by a tackle and its just a blatant hold that wasnt flagged

  241. 241 Blackfoot said at 5:56 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    whoa Huff had 6 hollow point bullets too.
    could be no breaking Huff out

  242. 242 Dave said at 5:57 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    There is only one reason to carry hollow points…

  243. 243 Blackfoot said at 5:59 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    was he going to have a shootout with the cops for his bag of weed?
    hollow head huff

  244. 244 RobNE said at 5:59 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Tell me

  245. 245 Dave said at 6:01 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’m going to assume he wasn’t going hunting or target shooting.

    N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f(1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception that allows for the purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that:

    Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-6f. can be broken down as follows:

    A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and which filed its charter with the State Police;
    A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State;
    A person going directly to a target range, and;
    A person going directly to an authorized place for “practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions.”

  246. 246 RobNE said at 6:05 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Is the bridge NJ?

  247. 247 Dave said at 6:07 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    He was arrested in New Jersey so they must have had the authority. He’s looking at 24 years behind bars without a plea deal.

    From Wiki…

    Limits and restrictions[edit]
    Hollow-point ammunition is available for unrestricted purchase from most retailers wherever firearms are sold, and may be transported by purchasers without special licensing. However, hollow-point bullets may not be carried outside of a place of target practice, dwelling, premises or land possessed by a person, even if one has a valid permit to carry a handgun, except when being transported directly to and from these places. LEOSA (HR 218) qualified and retired or separated LEOs carrying anywhere in the USA are exempt from state laws and may legally carry hollow points ammo or any ammo that is not prohibited under the Gun Control Act of 1968 or the National Firearm Act. [4] Additionally the NJ Superior Court in State v Brian Aitken have ruled that there is no exception for moving between residences with hollow-point bullets.

  248. 248 RobNE said at 6:08 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    My state trooper cousin’s response to me: and?? Did he do something else?

  249. 249 Blackfoot said at 6:21 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    well that’s good maybe

  250. 250 RobNE said at 6:23 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    He said no wY 20 years. He is PA though. But I agree.

  251. 251 GermanEagle said at 6:31 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Then he must not know the laws…

  252. 252 RobNE said at 6:32 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Or maybe he’s seen some real shit.

  253. 253 GermanEagle said at 6:32 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Huff is done in the NFL.

  254. 254 daveH said at 6:46 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    His life is done! ! Very very sad. I mean didn’t any of the lockeroom discuss the idiocy of loaded gun on a plane? ??
    THis is the THIRD off field WTF moment of the season

  255. 255 Sb2bowl said at 1:12 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    No, I don’t think so. These types of offenses are generally a mild suspension, not a lifetime ban. Someone will take a chance on his talent if we let him walk.

  256. 256 RobNE said at 6:09 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    That seems highly doubtful

  257. 257 Sb2bowl said at 1:11 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    24 years is max- that’s not minimum mandatory, and generally reserved for the most hardened of criminals.

    Huff, with a good lawyer and some great behavior- should get away with a few years of probation.

    He had a concealed carry permit in Texas and a few other states (don’t remember currently). He is employed in the city of Philadelphia, which we all know is a stone’s throw away from NJ state. Circumstantial in the fact that he was carrying a legal firearm in a different state.

    The weed will hurt him. Hopefully it wasn’t separated into different bags- as long as he doesn’t tack on distribution charges, he will walk.

  258. 258 Dave said at 1:27 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you’ve said. Probation would seem likely, but I’ll admit I know next to nothing about the legal system in PA, let alone NJ, as it relates to gun charges. I’d think it’s the NFL/loss of income and legal fees he has to worry about the most.

  259. 259 Sb2bowl said at 2:00 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Jersey is tough- especially the bullets. Fortunately reports don’t seem to indicate a loaded gun; rather the clip was next to the gun. Also, it appears that Huff willingly surrendered his firearm during the disclosure aspect of his arrest.

    These all bode well in his favor.

    But let this be a lesson kiddies- DON’T SMOKE POT AND DRIVE

  260. 260 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:03 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ensure whoever you shoot has a really bad day

  261. 261 RobNE said at 6:05 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wiki tells me many police depts use them

  262. 262 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:09 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Too stop bullets from over penetrating their targets and flying through buildings(or people) and hitting innocent people.

  263. 263 Media Mike said at 6:00 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    mental midget

  264. 264 ChoTime said at 6:12 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    You’ve gots to be kidding.

  265. 265 Insomniac said at 6:22 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    We hardly knew you Josh Huff. I’m still not sorry for calling you trash yesterday though.

  266. 266 GermanEagle said at 6:23 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Shame though because he was a decent returner.

  267. 267 Insomniac said at 6:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Yea now we need another returner.

  268. 268 GermanEagle said at 6:27 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Unless the stupid NFL are changing the touchback rules again…

  269. 269 John Galt said at 6:40 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Im more worried about the fact that he was a good gunner on punt. Smallwood can return – but punt cover is more important really

  270. 270 Dave said at 7:12 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Eric Rowe was a great gunner.

  271. 271 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:16 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    This right here. The one time Huff stayed in to block we gave up a PR

  272. 272 A_T_G said at 8:54 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    It sounds as if Huff was a bit sloppy as a gunner, at least today.

  273. 273 P_P_K said at 9:49 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Funny. Painful. Painfully funny.

  274. 274 A_T_G said at 11:01 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Or, as I think of it, the sweet spot.

  275. 275 P_P_K said at 12:03 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Ah, the thin, very thin line on which one balances between madness and genius.

  276. 276 A_T_G said at 8:49 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Unfortunately, he can’t run back this story.

  277. 277 Sb2bowl said at 1:07 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    More damage? Lol

  278. 278 GermanEagle said at 6:21 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    So with Huff’s football career likely being over, are we finally activating Treggs on gameday and promote Paul the burner Turner to the 53 men roster?!

  279. 279 Insomniac said at 6:22 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Most likely.

  280. 280 Nailed It! said at 6:30 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    There is literally 0 reasons to be driving around in the very early morning with weed and a gun while being an NFL player, let alone 6 hollow points too. Doug kick him off the tour.

  281. 281 GermanEagle said at 6:34 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    The Eagles will release him before Huff serves his time in prison.

    It’s where most NFL players come from…

  282. 282 Sb2bowl said at 1:13 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


    I seriously doubt that he will get prison time for these offenses. Laws are changing

  283. 283 Nailed It! said at 6:38 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wait this was at 11am.

    Cut him right now.

  284. 284 Nick C said at 6:38 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I’ve never gotten why NFL players carry guns. Hire someone…
    Also gun laws are a bit more loose here in GA– defense hollow points are the only thing I carry…

  285. 285 myartz04 said at 7:43 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Ohio is the same.

  286. 286 BobSmith77 said at 8:18 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    It is really expensive to hire personal security but Huff is a dumbass. Stunned if he doesn’t end up doing some jail time after this recent arrest.

    His life is basically over especially it ends with a felony conviction.

  287. 287 daveH said at 6:41 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Only thing worse wud be walking onto an airplane with that schit .. wtf josh you tragic heartbreaking f in DOPE! !!!! iTs pure pain to read this.. work all your life for 1 lousy slimmer than slim chance of being a pro athlete and its crushed by naive stupidity.
    I am sofa king bummed to reid this. Thanks agsin Chip.
    WtF do these NFL players take for granted .. they work their asses off, get mutilated snd go broke! ! Its practically fucckkin un American to witness

  288. 288 anon said at 7:57 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Calling ACViking to the courtesy phone. Please tell us what this all means!!!

  289. 289 P_P_K said at 9:48 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Speed dialing, ACViking. Where are you, friend?

  290. 290 anon said at 7:58 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Over under/under how many weeks before we start complaining about the replacement WR’s inability to get open.

  291. 291 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:14 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    We have replacements?

  292. 292 Blackfoot said at 8:16 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    he is not open now and he will never be open in the future.

  293. 293 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    People will complain at the first hiccup

  294. 294 A_T_G said at 8:46 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Replacement? You think they are going to cut Huff?

  295. 295 Corry said at 8:59 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Cut no, but suspend? I think that’s definitely happening.

  296. 296 A_T_G said at 10:56 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Absolutely looks like the safe bet…but not for months. Bradham and the Cabana boy was months ago, and just last week there was a report that the league was looking into Agholor in the club. Huff might be next season.

  297. 297 A_T_G said at 11:26 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Or, maybe this one goes quicker…

  298. 298 Corry said at 7:11 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I was going to say that possession is a bit harder to argue….especially when you’re the only one in the vehicle.

  299. 299 Tumtum said at 8:56 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Give me a name, ill start complaining.

  300. 300 The original AG said at 7:58 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I won’t. I just want to see a change. If it doesn’t work, fine, I’ll complain they need to address it through the draft. If it does work, I’ll complain they didn’t do it fast enough. Either way, there’s some complaining in the future.

  301. 301 Mitchell said at 8:03 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I think the Eagles are more competitive than meets the eye. The losses have all come to teams on the road and 2 of them (Cowboys and Redskins) are good to boot. The Eagles were in all of those games until the end and lost on some stupid fumbles. Yes the WR are terrible, yes the qb is a rookie, yes the RBs fumble at terrible times but somehow they are still 4-3 with wins against the Vikes and Steelers. I believe they have the hardest remaining schedule but if the Eagles make the playoffs, I feel like they deserve it. They arent playing that bad right now and just need to clean up some dumb mistakes.

  302. 302 ChoTime said at 9:11 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Sure, it’s the normal overreaction. A couple of awful plays are the difference between adding on a couple losses. Still #1 in DVOA, despite the losses (note, Dallas is #2).

    That being said, this team is not a serious playoff contender IMO. With Wentz not being prime Aaron Rodgers and the all-butterfingers team on O, I can’t see them beating a path through the good teams. And as you said, hardest remaining schedule, too.

  303. 303 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Clean a few things up and we could easily be 6-1… Although im sure other teams can say the same thing

  304. 304 BobSmith77 said at 8:14 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Yeah they aren’t that far from being a strong contender especially if Wentz continues to play well and develop further. They desperately needed their franchise QB and appear to have him now. If the last decade or so has shown Eagles’ fans since McNabb left, it is really hard to be a consistent playoff contender let alone a SB contender without one.

    Disagree on the TE position though and about the skill position talent overall on this team. They stink and Roseman is going to really need to nail finding a quality WR or RB next year in the draft while continuing to overhaul this OL.

  305. 305 P_P_K said at 9:47 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Wentz, as a qb, is the key. Before the draft, I was so high on Zeke that I hoped the Eagles would take him. Elliott is fulfilling his expectations, sure, but I think Wentz is surpassing his. A team can be built around a qb, not an rb, no matter how talented. Carson is the real deal. If the team gives him the support he needs over the next couple years, the future of Eagles football could be very bright.

  306. 306 BobSmith77 said at 10:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Not sure if Wentz is the ‘real deal’ but I would take a franchise QB over a franchise RB any day of the week. If Wentz plays all 16 G this season and continues to progress from where he is at now, this season will have been a success irregardless of their record.

    Yeah making the playoffs for a change would be nice but to me this was always a ‘bigger picture’ type season that likely had some level of rebuilding.

  307. 307 P_P_K said at 12:04 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I think there’s enough evidence to state that both Zeke and Carson are the real deal. Like you say, you can’t build around an rb, only the guy who takes the snaps. I dread having to face Zeke twice a year over the next couple seasons. I’m really looking forward to Dallas fans feeling the same way about Wentz.

  308. 308 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:55 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Just catching up after a long, long day. So, Huff F’d up bad. Ags is looking like our biggest bust since….well, Marcus Smith, and we have to put up with Dallas fans crapping all over everything.

    I’m going back to bed. Wake me in January.

  309. 309 BlindChow said at 9:33 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    On the other hand, the Vikings suck now! We might actually get a high first rounder! See, there is still a reason to watch football this year!

  310. 310 mtn_green said at 1:38 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Since Brandon graham?

  311. 311 Rambo said at 10:15 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Replay of the Dallas game is on if anyone is interested.

  312. 312 ChoTime said at 10:30 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Not so much. 🙂

  313. 313 Rambo said at 10:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Yeah, I’m a glutton for punishment.

  314. 314 Rambo said at 10:37 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    We had this game though. SMH.

  315. 315 ChoTime said at 10:45 PM on November 1st, 2016:


  316. 316 HawaiianEagle said at 11:58 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Next time.

  317. 317 DarthBanner said at 9:10 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Until Doug Simpleton struck.

  318. 318 P_P_K said at 12:52 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Is it on the S&M channel?

  319. 319 A_T_G said at 11:14 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    “Oh, and he was drunk. Did we forget to mention he was also drunk? While speeding, with weed, and a gun, and illegal ammunition.”

    – every report today, apparently

    Tomorrow, we will find out he had a busted taillight, and a body in the trunk.

  320. 320 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 11:24 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Are Hollow points illegal in NJ or Penn?

    In most places they are pretty standard loadouts

  321. 321 A_T_G said at 11:27 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I was surprised too, but it sounds like they are a bigger deal than the gun from the reports.

  322. 322 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 11:33 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I wonder if this gets political and the persecutor tries to make an example/statement

  323. 323 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:35 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  324. 324 sonofdman said at 12:39 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    In NJ, you can’t carry them outside of your dwelling or a target range.

  325. 325 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:35 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Illegal most places to my knowledge… Not sure why civilians need bullets that can penetrate a bullet proof vest.., a 45 that can put a friggin hole in you should be more than enough for any civilian unless he is planning on going to war with the police, which I wouldn’t recommend

  326. 326 Mac said at 11:44 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    So, the notorious ATG wears Japanese lady jeans. Nicely done ATG, nicely done.

  327. 327 Insomniac said at 1:08 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    It’s actually chinese, at least I hope it is or I have shamed my ancestry.

  328. 328 Corry said at 7:43 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Definitely not Korean….

  329. 329 MattE said at 12:59 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Concur not Hangul lol.

  330. 330 ChoTime said at 1:05 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    How many Koreans are there around here anyway?

  331. 331 MattE said at 3:24 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    no worries we can figure it out cause I am sure if anyone can count it’s us lol

  332. 332 ChoTime said at 9:30 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I’m sorry to tell you, that’s a MAN, baby!

  333. 333 Insomniac said at 1:07 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    He’s taking the Cowgirls lost harder than we are…I feel for the man.

  334. 334 Tumtum said at 8:53 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I guess they felt if all else failed they had to hit him with tinted windows, so something would stick.

  335. 335 Dave said at 9:03 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    He wasn’t drunk, he was driving under the influence of marijuana. When he got pulled over for speeding, the cop smelled weed in the car. He was smoking pot while driving, not drinking…not that it’s any better.

  336. 336 MattE said at 12:58 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    ….i mean it does make everything better lol

  337. 337 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:32 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    DUI for POT is a joke, unless you recently started smoking and pot still hits you like it me when I was 15 years old
    Huff is just dumb… Poor simple bastard

  338. 338 Dave said at 4:14 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    DUI for POT is a joke…until you get in an accident and kill someone because you are impaired. Seriously dude, driving while impaired on any substance is no joke and can have grave/life-shattering consequences. Why the fuck would you post that it’s OK to get high and drive?

  339. 339 A_T_G said at 3:30 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Good call.

  340. 340 Sb2bowl said at 1:15 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Doubt he was drunk. A DUI charge can be for being under the influence of Marijuana or any other substance including prescription medication.

  341. 341 Allen3000 said at 11:18 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    We do have a serious problem on offense right now. It can’t be understated. We are 28th in the NFL in pass ypg and total yards per game. Other than Jordan Matthews, we don’t have a single WR with a reception of over 35 yards. Simply put, we do not, and seemingly can’t, stretch the field. We do not have a reliable, 3 down back to move the chains and break off big runs. And to make matters worse, we have a very shaky (and thin) OL right now. As happy as I am about Carson and his future here, he’s still far from a finished product (and that’s perfectly fine).

    I am a bit worried about our defense too. At times they look like the most dominant and disruptive unit in the league. At other times, they look charmin soft. They gave up nearly 500 yards to DC (200+ rushing) and 460 to Dallas. Other than Pittsburgh, the defense hasn’t really stood up to a good offense.

  342. 342 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 12:29 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Yes, at the moment. The full playbook has not been taken advantage of yet. Sure, most of us love Wentz, but he is well on his way to getting the opportunity to learn from former NFL QBs that are better coaches than being successful players themselves, (only going career record %). Someone correct me if need be about the stats because I am just assuming.

    How difficult is pre-snap/post snap intricacies, therefore, his progression to make adjustments on the fly is part of the process. That might be due to multiple factors, depending on the play call, defensive look, offensive line help, etc.. so I have a feeling Doug has simplified the offence for him, lately is been short and sweet. Get the ball out fast. Doug is an offensive minded coach always looking for opportunities down the field. If the coverage is there for chunk yards/first option, sure take, if not then it’s always Sammy Sleeves check down.

    I will take less turnovers and penalties any day even if it costs one game, ugh, to lose to the hated division rival. I saw more progression in this past week against the Cowhurls than against the Vikings.

  343. 343 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 11:35 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    Tommy, I haven’t read your Roster Rants yet, but I will eventually get around to it after this. Thank you always.

    Ear muff it, a line from a movie. Nor does that matter at this moment. Who thought in their wildest dreams that the Eagles would be 4-3 at this point???

    I rarely post here on the Igglesbiltz, but I am so fuck8ng pissed and annoyed with some of you that won’t accept coaching mistakes, roster moves/personnel ,injuries happen. We all know this is DP’s first year. New DC, OC, front office changes.

    Does everyone want Fletcher Cox traded because he gets double teamed constantly, and hasn’t had a sack in every game? Graham, looks great this year. You assholes wanted him gone at one point!

    I could go on and on, but I won’t because this could get ugly.

    HR, made some great moves this year, we might have a QB for a decade, a head coach that is willing to make adjustments. Give this a chance it’s only 7 games into his tenure. So stfu to the ones with 0 patience.

    It always hurts when you lose to the cowboys!

  344. 344 ChoTime said at 11:49 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    People just vent here, don’t think most are serious.

  345. 345 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 12:37 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Well fuck you for being honest! This is why I miss Philly. I still feel like some are being too critical. Thanks for replying.

  346. 346 Media Mike said at 5:42 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I don’t think we’re being critical enough of exactly what went wrong and how bad some of the mistakes were, but I think the proposed remedy to those mistakes haven’t been reality based. Firing the coach and/or cutting/trading core players at the game 7 point makes no sense. I’m anticipating making a judgement of Pederson’s ability to remain the coach of this team sometime in the late fall of 2019.

  347. 347 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:35 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Certainly some really bad mistakes… Stomping our feet and crying about it unfortunately wont Change anything, so by Wednesday my mindset switches to wanting to see those mistakes not repeated turning a terrible loss into a learning experience, at least that’s the hope..
    But for me, it’s very tough to swallow not kicking the FG, even after losing yards on the swing pass…. Win or lose, at that point, Caleb Sturgis had earned the right to take that kick. If he misses so be it, but he earned that kick and we should have been willing to live or die with his leg in that situation after what has been a Boderline pro bowl season so far for Sturgis

  348. 348 kimsarah said at 11:36 PM on November 1st, 2016:

    I thought the Eagles played good, not great, but good enough to win. And likewise for Dallas. What I saw was too many dropped passes by the Eagles offense — except for Matthews. Agholor is running out of chances with this team.

  349. 349 Tumtum said at 8:52 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Didnt JM have 3 drops?

  350. 350 Jernst said at 9:11 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    At least two that I remember and one of them was a potential 25-30 yard gain on 3rd down. He dropped more passes than any other WR. Everyone else only had one.

  351. 351 Aaron said at 9:17 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    no faith in Jmathews at all, he’s a bum, so are all the rest

  352. 352 ColoradoEaglesFan said at 1:18 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Tommy, I finally read your Roster Rants. It’s an fair assessment. It’s all based on potential, projections, the inner drive, and sometimes a kick in the ass every once in awhile to reach your potential is what a professional athlete needs. The front already admitted that they missed on a couple first rounders. I’m ok with them being proactive and making the right moves moving forward.

  353. 353 华夏九州套图 said at 3:08 AM on November 2nd, 2016:


  354. 354 Jernst said at 9:07 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Good roster for sure. The situation is not dire at all. The most important position is locked up for cheap for the next 4 years. Problem is, as you alluded to by saying that we don’t have star skill position players or even reliable chain movers, is that the areas of need are truly killing our chances of competing with the elite teams despite an overall good roster. The needs at those specific positions are in fact dire, they’re not even serviceable.

    We’ll go into this offseason needing 2 CBs, 2 WRs, and 1 RB (with true star power needed in at least one of each of those positions), we’ll also need to fill out the roster with potentially an OLB, DT, DE, RT, G, C depending on cuts, etc. That’s a lot to achieve in a single offseason. So I think when many people look at our needs and our cap space, they see two off-season as the best case scenario for us to build a championship roster if everything works out. Problem with that time frame is that key players like Peters, Kielce, Graham, Barwin, Jenkins will all be hitting 30 years old or being moved on from which adds new needs on top of that.

    Still I think we should all be excited about the overall potential of this team. Despite everything I just said, this team is probably a single star WR away from being the only undefeated team in the league.

  355. 355 Dave said at 10:44 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    CB (1): Although I’m not as high on Mills as others, he is young and only going to get better. Carroll needs to be replaced though.

    WR (1): We need one quality deep threat WR to add to the mix. DGB and Mathews are fine as the other 2 starters.

    RB (1): I’m not sure spending a high pick on a running back is necessary as they are easier to find later than stud WRs and CBs.

    Peters: Freak of nature, may be done, may last another year. Regardless, his replacement is already on the roster (Lane)

    Kielce: Isaac Seumalo or a draft pick will most-likely be replacing him.

    Graham: Most-likely has several quality years left

    Barwin: Most-likely will asked to take a pay cut, doubt he gets cut altogether.

    Jenkins: Like Graham, most-likely has several quality years left.

    I agree that the roster has potential. The next 2 or 3 drafts are going to be critical as Wentz develops. The team has a chance to be very competitive for the next decade if the personnel decisions going forward bring in quality young players who develop into good players.

  356. 356 ChoTime said at 11:01 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I am not sure what to think about Matthews. He gets open sometimes, puts up decent stats, and seems to be a good guy. But can you really have a guy who is just solid, not explosive or spectacular, have a drop problem, even as a #2?

  357. 357 Dave said at 11:12 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I look at Mathews as one of the best slot receivers in the league. Compare him to Avant and he is an absolute play maker who can change the game, not just get a first down here or there. I think he would prove himself invaluable if the team still had Maclin or Desean to stretch the defense.

  358. 358 Jernst said at 1:06 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Exactly. He’d be the best #3 WR in the league. But, he’s being asked to play like a solid #1 and right now, he’s barely in the solid #2 conversation.

  359. 359 Dave said at 1:16 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Wes Welker, Marques Colston, Randall Cobb, Victor Cruz (prior to knee injury), Julian Edelman, Larry Fitzgerald…these guys are/were difference makers from the slot. I wouldn’t call any of them #3 receivers just because they were in the slot.

  360. 360 ChoTime said at 1:23 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Did any of those guys have bad hands, though?

  361. 361 Dave said at 1:30 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Welker, he couldn’t catch anything that wasn’t close to the line of scrimmage.

    Edit: “Indeed, if you look at Wes Welker, his 32 drops were second in the league over three years. The only wide receiver with more than him? New Bears receiver Brandon Marshall who led the way with 35 drops over three years.”

    Edit2: DeSean was pretty with a 13% drop rate.

  362. 362 Jernst said at 4:34 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    During his peak years in NE, Welker had a drop rate of about 8-9% which is middle of the road for WRs. The worst drop rates are typically 10-15%, while the best are 3-6%. Welker had that really bad drop in the SB and then had a year after his 47th concussion where he dropped a league leading 13 passes. But, overall he had decent hands over his career. The other guys you listed above all had above average hands.

  363. 363 Jernst said at 4:41 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    No. And, unless you’re Randy Moss, TO, Brandon Marshall or DeSean Jackson it’s very hard to have a successful career with a high drop rate. And, all those guys could more than make up for their few drops by also making huge difference making plays. JMatt lacks the ability to create big plays on his own. His game is the type of game that only works well if he’s supremely consistent and catches the ball well.
    Unfortunately he’ll only ever get 5 or 6 opportunities a game to have a positive impact since he doesn’t create his own plays or play with the type of skill to demand being fed the ball, so he needs to be near automatic when those opportunities arise to be an adequate contributor.
    However, he far too often drops completely catchable, easy passes, he rarely if ever makes the spectacular catch to even out the easy drops he commits, he doesn’t create big plays on his own, he’s ok but nothing special at RAC, he doesn’t use his size that well to overpower smaller CBs on jump balls and he’s not a reliable 3rd down chain mover like an Avant since he’s got such a high drop rate.

  364. 364 Jernst said at 3:23 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    You can be a great #2, even a good #1 while being relegated to the slot. I’m not dropping him to a #3 WR simply because he’s a slot guy. But, the guys you listed were prolific from the slot. True difference makers. JMatt, in my humble opinion, is simply a decent slot receiver, not the type of transcendent slot talents that operate as true difference makers like Fitzgerald, Edelman, Welker, etc.

  365. 365 Dave said at 3:52 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Fitz was just moved to the slot because of his age. He is a HOF because of what he did on the outside.

    Edelman and Welker basically run/ran 95% of their pass patterns within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Their stats were padded by the extreme volume of throws that came their way. Cole Beasley of the Cowboys would put up similar stats in New England with Brady, but I wouldn’t call him a difference maker.

  366. 366 Insomniac said at 4:27 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    You know you have to make the catch and run to get those stats though right? We padded the shit out of Matthews stats too so why aren’t you complaining about that?

  367. 367 Dave said at 4:46 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Huh? I’m not complaining about anything, just saying that JMatt is a much better receiver than he is credited for.

    For Mathews career, he does not run <5 yard patterns at any volume remotely close to what Edelman and Welker did.

  368. 368 Jernst said at 5:25 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I’ll give you that he’s a better WR than he sometimes gets credit for. He’s also definitely not a #1 receiving threat in any offense. And, I think you can make the case that he’s not even a high end #2 as there are many WRs out there that are better #2’s than him.
    And, sure Edelman and Welker are/were murders on those short passes. That was their game and they excelled at it phenomenally. JMatt is a totally different WR and he’s not going to play that type of game. But, stats aside, Edelman and Welker in his prime had a much bigger effect on the outcome of games (making a difference) than Jordan Matthews ever has. And, despite not racking up a lot of chain moving 5 yard passes to pad his reception stats he only averages 11.5 yards per catch, so it’s not like he’s getting a bunch of low percentage deep balls either.
    So, all you’ve proven is that he’s not nearly as good as the Welkers/Edelmans of the world at gobbling up short passes. (It’s not just targets…they earned those targets by being deadly on those short passes which Matthews is not). And, he’s not really excelling in the intermediate and deep areas either. So what’s your point.

  369. 369 Dave said at 5:37 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I would 100% disagree. If Mathews ran 2 yard crosses and outs all game long and played with Brady in the Patriots offense, he would have 100+ catches too. You see volume and correlate that with effectiveness. Nobody could stop Welker or Edelman because Brady was so damn accurate with his throws. Most of those passes were also first reads.

  370. 370 Jernst said at 4:28 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    All very true. I only mentioned Fitz because you brought him up as an example of someone that was a difference maker from the slot. Similarly with Edelman and Welker.
    You stated above that “those guys are/were difference makers from the slot. I wouldn’t call any of them #3 receivers just because they were in the slot.” So, I responded by saying that I wouldn’t downgrade any of them, or JMatt for that matter, solely for doing most of their work from the slot. But, that, stat padding or not, all of those guys were significantly better from the slot than JMatt. They were difference makers from the slot (as you originally said), and he, in my opinion is not, and that’s why I think of him as an excellent 3 instead of a great 2 or good #1 WR.
    So, I apologize if I’m confusing what you’re trying to say, but you’re statements are kind of contradictory. You say all those players were difference makers from the slot. And, because they were difference makers you wouldn’t call any of them #3 WRs. Then when I agreed that they were, in fact, difference makers (that being the difference between them and JMatt), you replied that you don’t think they were difference makers, that their stats were padded and even a Cole Beasley who you would never call a difference maker could put up the same numbers. So, I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
    Either way…I think a WR can be a true difference maker from outside or the slot. Doesn’t matter where they line up. However, I don’t think JMatt is a difference maker from the slot. He’s merely a very good slot receiver, but not a difference maker. If a slot WR is a true difference maker then he can be a #2 or #1 WR. If he’s just a decent, solid slot WR that doesn’t really affect games all that much then I think of him as a really good #3. Like a better Avant. Cole Beasely in my eyes is an excellent #3 WR and maybe even getting into the #2 conversation with his recent play. JMatt is an excellent #3 that could be in conversation for #2 wideout territory but is too inconsistent and not physically imposing (with either quickness, speed or strength) to elevate to that level. All the guys you listed as difference makers from the slot are clearly excellent #2 WRs in those offenses and in some cases even #1 WRs that just happened to operate out of the slot. Hope that clarifies.

  371. 371 Mac said at 11:22 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Normally dropping #2s can be fixed with fiber and probiotics. At this point, I think we need to dip the guy in stickum every time he steps on the field. It may make him easier to tackle, but it’s worth the risk.

  372. 372 RobNE said at 12:09 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I like him, just think he’s being asked to do too much. If you had more help around him, he would shine more.

  373. 373 MattE said at 12:52 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    revisionist history suggests we may have gotten the least athletically-freakish WR out of that group.
    in order drafted:
    1st Rd: Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, OBJ, Cooks, Kelvin Benjamin

    2nd Rd: Marquise Lee, JMatt, Paul Richardson, Davante Adams, Cody Latimer, Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry

    …and of course we took Huff in the 3rd lol.

    the only ones I wouldn’t want over JMatt would be, I am not sure I would say I would have taken JMatt over any of those other names…..ARob & Landry were right there FUCK!

  374. 374 Jernst said at 1:04 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    The sad thing is that Chip was so in love with Marquise Lee and Jordan Matthews, that when Lee got taken at the top of the 2nd round he traded up in the second to take JMatt. With those two picks we could have had both Robinson and Landry. And, we passed on Kelvin Benjamin to take MS2. Pretty sad that with WR clearly on our list of needs in a draft that was deeper than any in history at the position we traded away two high picks to move up for one of two WRs both of whom didn’t become stars in a draft class that saw 7 WRs, including 3 available at our original picks go on to be stars.

  375. 375 MattE said at 3:25 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Retrospect: 1st Rd: Roby, 2nd Rd: Landry/Robinson, would have been epic

  376. 376 Jernst said at 4:59 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    There was a ton of talent to be had in that 2014 draft. In the 1st round we could have had Jason Verrett, Bradley Roby, Kelvin Benjamin or Derek Carr.

    In the second, Allen Robinson and Landry were both available at our 2nd pick and we’d have saved a fourth in trading up for Matthews.

    In the third, Donte Moncreif and John Brown were both available at our pick instead of Huff.

    Davonte Freeman was taken with the pick right after Jaylen Watkins and Martavius Bryant was taken right after our 4th which we used to trade up for JMatt.

    Knowing we were looking for WRs and CBs, we could have easily played that a lot better than we did. But, that’s the draft…total crapshoot.

  377. 377 Dave said at 3:02 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Huh? JMatt has similar or better stats than everyone taken after him. Landry has more catches, but 9 less TDs, Robinson has extremely similar stats over 3 years.

  378. 378 Jernst said at 3:21 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Allen Robinson had 80 catches for 1400 yards and 14 TDs last year. (160 rec, 2413 yards, 19 TDs – 31 games started career)
    Jarvis Landry had 110 catches for 1157 yards and 4 TDs last year. (240 rec, 2487 yards, 10 TDs – 32 games started career)
    JMatt had 85 catches for 997 yards and 8 TDs last year (188 rec, 2288 yrds, 19 TDs – 55 games started for his career)
    Looking at each of these guys’ best years, it’s clear Matthews has had the least impressive best year. He had 403 less yards and 5 less TDs than Robinson despite 5 more catches, and had 25 less catches than Jarvis Landry.
    When looking at the career numbers the important number to consider is games started. He’s put up similar overall numbers to the other two, but has twenty some more starts to do it in. It’s been very clear that he’s the third best of those three.

  379. 379 Dave said at 3:55 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    When looking at the career numbers the important number to consider targets. Landry is a high volume, short area receiver. His stats are padded by the sheer volume or targets.

  380. 380 Jernst said at 5:19 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    You act like he’s not earning those targets by getting open. Sure he’ll end up with more receptions and yards if he gets more targets, but it’s not like anyone can go out there and put up 110 catches just because the ball is thrown their way a bunch of times.
    If you look at total targets though Landry has had 343 and JMatt 286. So a difference of 57 targets has yielded 52 more catches for him. So, it’s conceivable that if JMatt maintained his 65% career catch rate, he’d end up with 37 more catches than he does now. So, yea they’d be close. But, Jordan doesn’t get as many targets because he doesn’t do as many good things with those targets as landry.
    Robinson has only 17 more targets in his career than Matthews. I’d hardly say that constitutes significant stat padding.

  381. 381 MattE said at 3:22 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Landry has got 100% better hands than JMatt, guy is catching at like 70+% rate

  382. 382 MattE said at 3:27 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    watch Robinson (47″ vertical i think?) and Landry (better hands than Golden Tate) vs JMatt (average at everything and Jerry Rice’s cousin). No comparison in the eye test. NONE.

  383. 383 Dave said at 3:47 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Landry caught the fourth-most passes in the NFL in 2015 (110 on 166 targets), but only eight of those passes went over 20 yards, and he scored just four touchdowns. Landy ran a 4.77 40 and is not remotely a deep threat.

    Robinson has long speed like DGB and better hands, but he benefits from having Allen Hurns on the other side. I’d rather have Robinson, but in no way shape or form would I take Landry over JMatt. Landry’s stats are padded by the volume of targets Tannehill gives him. Landry is closer to Avant than JMatt.

    BTW, Robinson was nowhere near a 47″ vertical (39″). JMatt had a respectable 35.5″.

  384. 384 Jernst said at 12:58 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    That’s really the one issue for me as well. If Matthews just caught the easy passes that hit him right in the hands I’d be totally happy with him as the #2 receiving option on the team. But, when you add in the drops, which have not improved over 3 years, I’m starting to see him more as the best #3 WR in the league and a below average #2.

    You look at elite offenses that had good #2 WRs (Tory Holt to Issacc Bruce, Reggie Wayne to Marvin Harrison, Anquan Boldin to Larry Fitzgerald, Roddy White to Julio Jones, Emmanuel Sanders to Demaryius Thomas, Wes Welker to Randy Moss, Randy Moss to Cris Carter, etc) I just don’t know how you can continue to call what Jordan Matthews gives you as a “great” #2 WR.

    At best, he’s an adequate to above average #2 WR on a team that has a bunch of other receiving threats, not only outside, but at TE and RB as well. More likely, he’s a below average #2, that can only play out of the slot and drops too many passes.

  385. 385 wee2424 said at 5:50 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    That’s what a normal 2nd WR is. Minus the drops of course.

  386. 386 bill said at 11:20 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Given his measurables, I don’t see why DGB can’t be a deep threat. His biggest deficiency, by all accounts, is route-running. Posts and gos don’t really require all that much in terms of route-running.

    My guess is that the disappearance of the deep game since Lane was suspended is directly related to the fact that Lane is no longer playing. Can’t throw deep very often when your RT gets consistently beat to the inside.

    CB is a problem position around the league. Obviously, the Eagles need to expend some assets in this area, but I’m not as worried as some in this regard.

    RB needs some love, as you can’t really count on any of the current suspects to carry the load consistently. But maybe this can be addressed in the 3rd? Or with a smart FA pick?
    Johnson can be said to be the LT of the future, but he’s already been suspended twice. Next one is a career ender. He wasn’t smart enough to avoid getting hit for the 2nd time, why should I believe that he’s smart enough to avoid the third strike? Need to start building extra depth at the position to acknowledge this risk. Still need a RT of the future, and while everyone assumes Seumalo is going to be a stud, he hasn’t shown anything on the field yet. Even assuming that he becomes the stud everyone predicts, that’s only a replacement for Kelce OR Barbre. That leaves 2 wide open positions on the line, with the need to hedge bets on the LT going forward on top of that. Call it 2.5 wide open positions. Clearly, the number 1 need position in the draft as well as FA. Should see a high pick (1st or second), and a high end FA or second high pick spent this offseason. Can’t continue to neglect this position.

  387. 387 Dave said at 12:01 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Vaitai has a legitimate shot at being the RT of the future. I think you have to give him a little time before you write him off so easily.

    Seumalo was a third round pick who got injured during preseason, yet you’ve written him off already.

  388. 388 Jernst said at 12:52 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I agree Vaitai looks a lot better these past two weeks and seems to have some promise as a decent RT of the future. I would not be quick to write him off. But, to be fair he is still purely a projection at this point and nothing more.

    He’s still getting a lot of help from RBs chipping extra. His run blocking is exceptional at times and you can see he has a lot of natural power. Pass blocking still needs work, but at least with him you can tell the problem isn’t lack of physical talent, it’s technique which can and should improve. I’d imagine we go into next year with either Lane at LT and Vaitai at RT or with Peters and Lane still starting and Vaitai as the top backup with eyes on the starting spot in 2018 if not sooner. Either way, adding a depth player (similar to Vaitai this year) will be essential next offseason.

    Whenever Peters leaves us and Vaitai (if he does prove himself adequate) takes over at RT, we’d have no backups at all at the tackle position as we stand now.

    I don’t think Bill was writing off Seumalo at all. I just think he was pointing out that you can’t just assume that he will take over as a quality starting C or G by next year when we haven’t seen anything out of him yet that would indicate he’s ready to do so. If

    Seumalo and Vaitai become starters that really makes things easy on us as LG (the easiest of all the Oline positions) or C will be our only pressing need, other than depth across the board which could be low price FA and day 3 draft picks.

    Overall, I’m very happy with the Oline as it is now. I just recognize the potential for us to either have 1 spot to fill over the next two offseasons or as many as 3 spots (and really 4 if Lane gets another positive piss test) as well as depth across the board. So, while things look bright for now, it could end up being a much more dire situation if Peters retires, Kelce continues to regress and Vaitai doesn’t develop into a starting RT. All of which are certainly very possible.

  389. 389 bill said at 8:43 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Vaitai has shown me nothing, and was a fifth round T for a reason. Relying on him becoming a solid NFL tackle at this point is dangerous. He may do it. But the odds are against him. Better to treat him as a complete unknown than to pencil him in as the answer at RT.

    Seumalo I haven’t written off. If you actually read what I wrote, you might have noticed that I included him as a settled position going forward (though we don’t know if it’s C or G). But I did note that he, also, has not yet shown anything in an NFL game. It’s entirely possible he’s a bust, but contra Vaitai, I think there’s a low probability of him not at least making serviceable starter status.

  390. 390 Dave said at 8:56 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    From Wiki…Jason Peters was picked up by the Buffalo Bills as an undrafted rookie free agent in April 2004. He was cut then re-signed to the Bills’ practice squad. He was signed to the active roster on November 12, 2004. Peters made his mark on special teams as a feared wedge buster on kickoffs and as a blocking tight end, while beginning to learn to play offensive tackle under the tutelage of offensive line coach Jim McNally.

    In 2006, Peters beat out former Texas star Mike Williams for starting right tackle on the Bills.

    Vaitai has three starts and Seumalo hasn’t played a snap, yet neither has shown you anything. That’s like planting grass seed and a day later saying the seed mix is bad because you don’t seed any grass yet.

  391. 391 bill said at 9:55 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    No, reading comprehension is key. Neither has shown anything means exactly that. It doesn’t mean that they can’t get better, it just means that they are not sure things. Do we need to go through the success rate history of 3rd and 5th round picks on OL? I’ll give you the Cliff Notes version – based on history, there’s a decent chance Seumalo never becomes a serviceable player, based solely upon his draft slot, which, ahem, is the ONLY THING WE CAN JUDGE HIM ON REGARDING THE NFL AT THIS POINT. Most likely, given his draft slot, he will be a serviceable player, but it’s certainly not a sure thing, or even really close to it. And finally, as I have repeatedly noted, and you have apparently failed to read EACH TIME, I have assumed Seumalo is the answer at either G or C going forward. He is one of the 2/5 that I’m claiming I feel comfortable with.

    For Vaitai, history says it is highly unlikely he becomes a serviceable starter, again given only his draft slot, since his play so far is so bad. *Relying* on Vaitai to solve your hole at RT going forward is like buying a yacht and relying on winning Powerball to pay for it. Hey, it might happen. But if you take it as a given, the most likely outcome is that you’re going to be scrambling to fix the problem sooner rather than later. You need to hedge that bet, and probably with significant resources.

  392. 392 Dave said at 10:10 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Obviously, by reading your responses, you are a classic negadelphian.

  393. 393 Jernst said at 1:12 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    DGB should kill it as a deep threat with 4.4 speed and 6’5″ in height. I’m surprised they haven’t used him more in that area given their desperate need to stretch the field. Also, his lack of use in the red zone has been frustrating. I’d love to see a fade pattern at least once this year.

    Offensive minded coaches always seem to forget about he fade because it’s basically a play where the coach has no ability to effect the outcome. They just have to sit back and rely on their players out executing. Seems like the coaches that fancy themselves offensive gurus would always rather scheme up a play that gets someone open rather than rely on their big WR going up and snatching a ball from a CB.

  394. 394 Jernst said at 12:17 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Can’t disagree with 90% of what you said. Good analysis. And, I, too, am very optimistic about the overall state of the roster. Like I said at the end there, I really believe this team is one stud WR away from potentially being 7-0. But, just to play devil’s advocate though since we’re discussing the roster.
    CB – I like a lot of what I’ve seen out of Mills as well. He’s had some rookie moments, but I do think the future is bright for a 7th round pick to come in at CB and play as well as he has with only getting royally toasted on a few occasions. Most importantly, he seems to have the right mindset for CB. That being said, while he’ll certainly only get better with time, he most likely won’t be getting any faster. The majority of his issues, in my eyes, when he’s been soundly beat by him receiver, have been physical. He’s simply too slow to cover some of the true speedsters at WR. He’s someone that needs to play with perfect technique and will probably always need a safety shading to his side when he goes up against the DeSean’s of the world. Which, let’s be honest, most CBs regardless of speed need as well. I just see him as someone that will always be slightly limited by his lack of speed. Hopefully, he turns out to be a decent #2 CB a la Sheldon Brown, but I doubt he becomes the type of player that a Josh Norman or Richard Sherman has become (two players who also lack top end speed). That means that he might become an adequate starter, but he’ll be someone that while you can certainly win with him, you’ll always be looking to upgrade as he’s better suited in my opinion as a top back-up.
    Carroll is a solid, unspectacular player who I love on the roster for cheap as a slot guy, top back up who gives you decent options as a dime player. But, he needs to be replaced as a starter. So far, McKelvin has been a waste of a signing in my opinion. Maybe he proves me wrong when he gets fully healthy, but he’s getting up there in age and has never really been an elite starter. That still leaves us with 2 needs at CB going forward over the next 2 offseasons. By 2018, I hope we have two new starters and 1 stud, but if Mills shows he’s a good #2, we’ll probably only need 1 stud and a nickel back.
    WR – this is where we probably disagree a bit. I think Matthews is a nice player, but he’s a lower end #2 in my opinion. Certainly serviceable, but in an ideal world he’s your slot WR and you have two other starting caliber WRs. DGB might become one of them but that’s based more on hope than what we’ve actually seen. Either way, I think this team needs a true #1 WR. And, while we sorely lack any type of deep threat, I don’t think that’s all that’s missing. We desperately need a WR that can make plays in the short and intermediate area of the field and move the chains consistently. So, #1 stud WR is a high need and, we’ll need to bring in someone that can challenge Agholar and DGB for that other starting spot.
    Peters – I agree he is a freak of nature and if he continues to play at a high level into his 35 year old season next year, he’ll truly prove that as that is fairly unprecedented. Still being an above average LT at age 36 is getting into the unheard of range, but if anyone can do it, it’s Peters. You’ll notice though that he’s already lost a good amount of speed, he’s been jumping early all year to deal with edge rushers that have some speed to their game. I doubt that get’s better with another year. That being said, I’d say best case scenario is we get one more year out of him. That still opens up a hole not this offseason but next. His replacement is already on the roster, but we’re not sure that Lane’s replacement is. So either Vaitai improves to starting quality RT (and I love the improvement we’ve seen out of him already) or we’ll have an opening at RT either next season or the year after. Spots like this set to open in a year or two are important if you believe that the roster is two offseasons away from filling the current holes. You also then have to fill the projected holes two years from now if you want 2018 to be when our roster is at its peak.
    Barbre needs to be replaced by Seumalo or a player we acquire, and Kelce looks like he needs to be replaced either this offseason, or likely will be getting up there in age and declining by that 2018 time frame we’re discussing for our championship roster. Which means we need to find answers at 3/5 of our Oline by 2018. 2 of which, like you said, may already be on the roster. Not a dire situation at all, but something to consider.
    Graham is 28 and certainly has a few more years of top production. However, DEs, especially ones that don’t have elite measurables hit a cliff at age 30. Which might open up a hole by 2018. Same with Jenkins who is 5 months older than Graham and turns 29 at the end of this year. Barwin is even older, more expensive and less productive, meaning he most certainly won’t be here in 2018.

  395. 395 Dave said at 1:04 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Don’t take this wrong way, but you should hit the enter/return key and make lots of separate paragraphs in your post. It reads like one long run on sentence and my eyes had a really tough time following through your post.

  396. 396 Jernst said at 1:09 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Sorry, for whatever reason the computer I’m using ignores all my enter/return key strokes when it posts on discus. So while it has multiple paragraphs on my screen when I hit post, it shows up with none. Then I have to hit edit and re-input the paragraph breaks which it then for some reason accepts.

    So, it is now fixed and edited. Might just have to refresh the screen to see my edits. Sorry…and no offense taken. I hate when people write with no paragraph breaks too.

  397. 397 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:00 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Im not ripping a rookie corner until he gives up a TD catch

  398. 398 BobSmith77 said at 1:58 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    DGB isn’t a quality 2 on the outside. More I have seen of him and the more I understand why the Titans gave up on him.

    More of a 4/5 on a team with a deep WR core.

  399. 399 anon said at 11:59 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    So despite all the moves the team is the same as it ever was.

  400. 400 RobNE said at 12:08 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    except for QB1

  401. 401 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:26 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Does this defense look the same as always to you… Think Rodney Mcleod and Brooks additions are No big deal? Bradham providing some damn good value for what we are paying him…. Our corners aren’t there yet, but think we took a big step in that area from the last few years
    Probably should appreciate an OL that is holding it together pretty well even tho they,are replacing one of the top RT in the NFL with a 5th rd rookie, and also played without a starting LG that has been better than most expected this year…. You replace two starting OL, and if it’s not a disaster, probably means you are doing a decent job… Doubt we could overcome these OL injuries under Chip.. Think coach Stoutland deserves a little more credit than he is getting from the FANBASE

    It’s not even halfway into the season and we are already getting some decent production from a handful of rookies: Wentz, smallwood (damn fumble) Vaitai. Mills, Vaiao… I don’t think that should be taken for granted.. It’s not something I expect as a given each year, and it’s even more impressive when you consider all the picks we gave up For We r

  402. 402 Mitchell said at 1:03 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I would argue that a game changer at one of those positions, most notably WR would completely change this team. Schwartz puts enougj pressure to make the CBs look good ans the safety tandem is fantastic. There is enough talent at the LB position with Hicks and Bradham. RB are just not THAT important. I would WR then OL in terms of need but in the draft I take OL first!!

  403. 403 Jernst said at 1:17 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Completely agree. Despite all my rambling, I could have just condensed my overall view to: an elite WR on this team as currently constructed is a contender that goes deep into the playoffs. That’s why I was really hoping for Alshon Jeffery. He’d completely change the offense and with a defense that gets after the QB this team would really start to hum.

    I’m glad we passed on Torrey Smith. A 3rd plus $8M per year is way too much for a one trick pony that, while good at that trick is nowhere near the elite level of deep threat we had with DeSean for only $1M more.

  404. 404 Corry said at 1:20 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    The Jeffery Dream isn’t exactly dead. He’s a FA after this year and if the Bears tag him again, he gets 120% of his current salary which puts him at about $17M I believe. That’s a lot of money for a team that won’t even have a QB most likely.

  405. 405 Jernst said at 2:56 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Oh for sure…and I highly doubt he’s gonna want to spend the prime of his career while that crappy team rebuilds with a new QB. He’d be target #1, 2 and 3 for me if he hits FA next year.

  406. 406 meteorologist said at 2:29 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Very well said

  407. 407 Dave said at 10:47 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    More changes for Sammy…

  408. 408 mtn_green said at 10:51 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Is that a troll?

  409. 409 Dave said at 10:52 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    No, why?

  410. 410 ChoTime said at 11:00 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    2 bad games and they push the guy out? Sheesh!

  411. 411 BlindChow said at 11:02 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Sam Bradford, coach killer…

  412. 412 Mac said at 11:19 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Coach Fisher was overheard saying… “I can pedal my traditional brand of mediocrity with this Bradford cat hanging around here… Get me that RaiNmAKer kid.”

  413. 413 MattE said at 12:43 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Sam Bradford, Pat Shurmur’s personal hype man.

  414. 414 Sb2bowl said at 1:18 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    At the beginning of the year I remember reading that Pat was being groomed to replace Turner at some point (hence why he chose Minny as his coaching spot).

    Pat also pushed HARD for Sammy to be the replacement QB. Guess he got his wish

  415. 415 Rambo said at 11:01 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Vikings TEs coach Pat Shurmur has been promoted to offensive coordinator.
    It’s a logical choice. Shurmur has a long history with Sam Bradford, as he was the quarterback’s OC both in St. Louis and Philadelphia and was the one who pushed for the Vikings to trade for him. Don’t expect the offense to change too much, as it was already one of the more conservative, run-first schemes in the league. There were whispers Shurmur learned some new things from coach Chip Kelly in his time with the Eagles, however, so we’ll ultimately see what happens.

  416. 416 Mac said at 11:17 AM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Uptempo 3 and outs here we come… all the way to a top 10 pick?!

  417. 417 Ark87 said at 12:01 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I heard some other guys was responsible for the uptempo 3 and out concept, Chuck Shelly or something I think his name was. Hopefully nobody gave that guy a job in the NFL. Any who, Shurmur ran a pretty respectable offense in that one game as an Interim HC.

  418. 418 Blackfoot said at 12:16 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    ha yeah the same game some guy name demarco broke off a long td run?
    yeah that was normal.

  419. 419 BlindChow said at 5:21 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    For us!

  420. 420 MattE said at 12:42 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Shurmur and Bradford are attached at the hip.

  421. 421 Sb2bowl said at 2:31 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Is that why Bradford runs so slowly?

  422. 422 MattE said at 3:22 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    HAHAHAHAHA, his legs should be a lot bigger than though #BirdLegs

  423. 423 Dave said at 12:54 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

  424. 424 MattE said at 12:55 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    the eagles affect QB wise on the rest of the league is crazy lol

  425. 425 Corry said at 1:17 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Due to Alex Smith’s non-concussion-concussion.

  426. 426 truehaynes said at 1:41 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Yeeeessss. Maclin finally has fantasy valur

  427. 427 Dave said at 2:50 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Mac is on my team as well.

  428. 428 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:59 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Show some damn respect, it’s “FOles” 🙂

  429. 429 GermanEagle said at 3:01 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  430. 430 MattE said at 3:28 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    i mean he does have a jersey in the HOF lol

  431. 431 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:29 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    The day he made it rain flooding the black hole… I’ll never forget that game

  432. 432 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:29 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Any civilian who walks around with hollow tip Bullets in his gun is a friggin moron who needs to stop watching movies and listeming to rap music…. Exactly when was josh huff ever going to have to defend himself from someone trying to kill him who’s wearing a bullet proof vest? smh stupid young buck shit…
    Im not going to be a hypocrite because I like to smoke in my car every now and then, typically while im on the highway, but if I do spark up in my car, you can bet that it means I have nothing else in the car that can get me in trouble..
    Ridiculous that a pro athlete who is married like Huff needs to take his gun out of his house on his way driving to Eagle Practice. This idiot could have paid an assistant chump change to do all his paper work to make it ok for him to have his gun legally in Jersey and Philly… How lazy and stupid can you be taking uneccessary risks with your life like this?
    Nothing annoys me more than morons who feel like it’s ok for them to take such uneccessary risk… Life is not a game.

  433. 433 Nailed It! said at 1:45 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Young black man with a gun, this could have ended so much worse for Huff.

  434. 434 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:52 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Think he told them he had his gun, which is the one smart thing he did that day… You are right tho

  435. 435 Julescat said at 2:13 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    what the heck is Huff thinking?

    might be time to cut our losses with this guy. he has serious issues.

  436. 436 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:16 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    For what? He will be punished, you don’t have to worry about that, so might as well not punish ourselves and play without him before the NFL or legal system drops the hammer on him..
    Plus I don’t think you can cut a young special team player after a coach has been tolerant with Nigel Bradhams mistakes twice this season. Nigel ISNT a big enough superstar to be showing that level of favoritism during a rookie coaches first season

  437. 437 Julescat said at 4:19 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I just wonder where his head is at. I don’t get an athlete that drives around smoking weed while carrying a weapon with illegal ammo. Just too much baggage there.

    Who the heck is he looking to shoot/kill?
    Huff obviously cares little about his career or team.

  438. 438 Ark87 said at 5:34 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    It might just be NFL gun culture (uhg), might be legitimate caution (Earl Wolff was kidnapped, among other anecdotes he may have been aware of). He also comes from a background that I’m sure left him no illusions of safety in the real world.

    His gun is registered in Texas, he would be under no illusions that he could kill someone, ditch his gun and get away with it.

    It would be irresponsible to let ourselves go down the path of assumptions leading us to think he is some wannabe gangster cut of the same cloth as Aaron Hernandez or something.

    This is likely a case of a dumb or lazy pot-smoking 25 year old didn’t do the paperwork or the research to properly maintain his firearm. I’m not saying he should be immune from consequences, but I’ll stand by his character for now with the given information.

  439. 439 myartz04 said at 2:44 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I think you are confusing hollow point bullets with armor piercing bullets. Hollow point bullets are designed to expand when they hit their target reducing the risk of collateral damage. For example, if you are stopping a robbery and shoot a suspect with lets say a full metal jacket you can run the risk of that bullet going straight through the intended target and could kill someone else. A hollow point would stay inside the body. In no way shape or form do hollow point bullets protect you from someone with a bullet proof jacket. I carry a gun loaded with hollow point bullets because thats the safest way. I would suggest doing a little research before you rope anyone who carries with hollow points “morons” and “people who listen to rap music”. What a stereotyping and racist thing to say. You sound like Trump.

  440. 440 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:02 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Cop killers

  441. 441 myartz04 said at 6:12 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    As far as I know….and I’m no expert….anything referred to as a cop killer would almost certainly have to be armor piercing, which i believe are illegal everywhere. Regarding hollow points, there is nothing special about them that would make them a cop killer per se. I live in Ohio…there are no restrictions regarding hollow point ammunition. In fact, it is encouraged just in case you have to use it, you wont kill your neighbors from a stray bullet. You must be from Jersey? Arent they the only state where hollow point is illegal? All of these pop culture misnomers you are pointing out simply dont exist here in Ohio.

  442. 442 Cafone said at 3:19 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Hollow point bullets are legal almost everywhere except New Jersey.

  443. 443 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:40 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Curious to see how the skins overcome a 4 game suspension for the silverback Trent Williams
    Hope huff plays sunday. He will get in plenty of trouble, might as well play him while we can

  444. 444 anon said at 2:00 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    In Chip’s offense Ertz was always wide open.

  445. 445 MattE said at 3:28 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Chips offense is like Russia

    “Players don’t drive Chip’s offense, offense drives players!”

  446. 446 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:20 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    after seeing he was suspended I immediately checked to see if we would be playing them during that time…and discovered that we play them during his first week back from suspension.(of course)

    it made me a little happier to see that they play: Minnesota, Green bay, and go on the road to play Dallas and Arizona during that time.

  447. 447 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:28 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Lol I did the same thing… Hopefully the loss is enough for them to go 1-3 allowing us to catch dallas or at least get a grip on that Wildcard spot… I think we beat GB and the Falcons in philly

  448. 448 Dave said at 2:52 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Amen regarding the seam routes…for all the tight ends.

  449. 449 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:36 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    If we are going to take the shackles off our TE’s, this is the week to do it. Giants corners are probably better than Dallas corners, while the Giants Safeties are more “Hitters”, than “Cover guys” who are one of the slower safety tandems… The Giants LBers are nothing to write home about either

  450. 450 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:53 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    The Eagles better not pay another player until they lock up Dave Fipp to an extension making him the highest paid ST coach in the NFL. I don’t even know what his contract status, but I do know a man who deserves a raise when I see one..

  451. 451 Sb2bowl said at 2:08 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    He was what, one of 3 coaches that survived the change from Chip to Doug? He’s not going anywhere.

  452. 452 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:12 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Deserves a raise regardless of his contract status.. He has been so I great that im writing this right after his unit just gave up that back breaking fake punt that gave the desperate Cowboys life after we had our foot on his throat.. Sturgis drastically out performing my expectation of who he was when we signed him.. And he turned knucklhead Huff into a kid who was on his way to a Probowl for being Both an elite returnman and gunner… “pay dat man his monies…”-Teddy KGB

  453. 453 MattE said at 3:19 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    isn’t Huls still around?

  454. 454 Sb2bowl said at 9:50 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Not a football coach. Head of sports science/nutrition I believe. Or some fancy title pertaining to that role.

  455. 455 MattE said at 3:32 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    yeah i know, but I do give credit to Chipper for that at least. We have been fairly healthy the last few years.

  456. 456 Cafone said at 3:18 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    A week after his special teams allowed a fake punt?

  457. 457 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:22 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Scroll down

  458. 458 A_T_G said at 3:33 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I can’t imagine there is enough they can pay him to make a promotion unattractive. And I’d imagine they pay him plenty to make a lateral move a non-factor. If we lose him, it wont be financial.

  459. 459 Cafone said at 2:06 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I was searching on the legality of hollow point bullets and happened to come across this NJ case which seems almost identical to Huff’s: speeding, small amount of marijuana, loaded gun with hollow tip bullets.

    It looks like they split the charges between the driver and passenger, but it would be interesting to find out how much time they got.

  460. 460 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    With the depressing loss and all this drama, thank the football gods it’s Giants week, the team I have circled on my Calender because I expect it to be one of our more dominant wins of the season, the BEATDOWN we will give them in philly will probably be extra nasty.. The Giants matchup is the perfect example for why games are won and lost in the trenches, and why all the flashy superstar weapons DONT mean shit if you can’t hold your own in the trenches,,.
    The Giants OL has nightmares of the Billy Davis Eagles, so they Probably won’t enjoy their first tastes of the Jim Schwartz Eagles Defense. This is an organization who hasn’t beaten us since Matt Barkley had to play QB for us 3 years ago. The weak Giants OL is the main culprit for our recent dominance over them, yet they plan on linning up with the same 5 Olineman we been smacking around for while now, while schwartz Probably has our front 7 playing better than it has in years… I don’t believe the Giants OL can hold up enough for them to score more than 17 points even with the game being in NY…… This is a dream opponent to beat on and get some shit off our chest from the dallas loss. This dominating BEATDOWN will be therapeutic for playërs and fans..

    When your OL will have major struggles protecting Eli on Sunday, and you have the weakest run game in the NFL, that’s a recipe for a Giant Disaster or Eagles nirvana depending what side you are on
    Thankfully this BEATDOWN is taking place at 1:00 on Sunday and get this nasty taste out our mouths ASAP

  461. 461 GermanEagle said at 3:02 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I will be deeply saddened if we won’t end up with at least 5 sacks!

  462. 462 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:07 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    If we don’t, it means Eli should be called for 10 intentional grounding penalties :)…. Regardless, that fool will be seeing ghosts, diving on the floor as if there is a sniper in the building by the 3rd quarter

  463. 463 GermanEagle said at 3:08 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Sadly enough, Sheli never gets called for intentional grounding. So if we don’t rack up at least 5 sacks we may be in trouble…

  464. 464 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:10 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    2-0 against the Giants again this year

  465. 465 GermanEagle said at 3:16 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Your words to God’s ears. Must win game this Sunday. That’s for sure.

  466. 466 MattE said at 3:36 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Howie: “Hey Trent, what do you want for Torrey?”
    Baalke: “3rd Rounder” (Chip somewhat inaudibly laughing in background)
    Howie: “That’s a bit rich for our blood, how about a 5th? With option for 4th depending on performance?”
    Baalke: “We really need that 3rd….” (Whispering “shut up i am on the phone”)
    Howie: “What’s going on?”
    Baalke: “Nothing…..sooo where were we…?”
    Chip: (Whispering “Did he fall for it?”) *giggling*
    Howie: “Uhh, Trent I can hear you whispering with Chip, is he in the room with you?”
    Baalke: “Yes……”
    Howie : “Are you guys high again?”
    Baalke/Chip: “…..a little”
    Howie: “Bye, guys”

    …..and thats how we didn’t get Torrey Smith, and why Chip is such a good poker player….errr football coach…..errr offensive savant……

  467. 467 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:39 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Good, they did us a favor.. I didn’t want to pay 9mil for that mutt anyway.
    I would tolerate giving up a 7th round pick for him, but even that is not a deal I would be celebrating,.. For 9mil, I just don’t think it would “move the needle” for us, especially as a mid season addition… Overrated

  468. 468 MattE said at 3:40 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    i heard reports of us giving a 5th and them wanting a 3rd and my first reaction…..
    “Are they high?”

  469. 469 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:42 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Yeah asking for a 3rd is just silly…
    I’d rather give up draft picks for an older WR like Brandon a marshall, or a younger WR like the Enunwa (did I butcher his name?) kid from the Jets… Im really not much of a Torrey smith fan

  470. 470 MattE said at 3:49 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    same. Would rather take the likes of Mike Wallace, brandon Marshall, eddie royal (yeah the eddie royal that always torches us)

  471. 471 PacificPurl said at 3:40 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    More likely Chip hollering “we’ve got 2 offensive weapons and you’re trying to trade one of them? No wonder some fans have PAID to fly a banner over the stadium this weekend trying to get you fired!”

  472. 472 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:44 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Feel bad for Joe Thomas. Typically I respect loyalty, but that dudes loyalty to that shit show borders on insanity

  473. 473 MattE said at 3:48 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    yeah man. Class player, name never called on TV because he is always where he needs to be

  474. 474 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:50 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    He won’t leave them. If that franchise has any class or decency they will trade him to a good situation because he deserves it and after everything he shouldn’t piss away the rest of his illustrious career in a 4yr rebuild

  475. 475 Rambo said at 5:32 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  476. 476 PacificPurl said at 3:36 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    FYI. Check out

  477. 477 MattE said at 3:38 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    i’ve actually have had some interest in keeping tabs on the Browns also to see how the eagles have affected them too lol

  478. 478 PacificPurl said at 3:42 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    It’s always a good thing to pay attention to the wider world. ;~》

  479. 479 Blackfoot said at 3:53 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    wow Bradford stinks

  480. 480 Nailed It! said at 3:44 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  481. 481 GermanEagle said at 3:47 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    So his suspension will be longer than Zeke’s for his domestic violence incident. Funny… Yes.

  482. 482 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:48 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Wow people have no shame for being the softest generation of humans to ever walk this earth… No surprise Russians view us as a bunch of pussies… 6 month suspension for that? Id be embarressed as a man to make that decision… I assume Baldi was being Fecetious

  483. 483 The original AG said at 3:49 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I actually listen to him regularly on 97.5, he’s really the only reason I tune in. Here’s a summary.

    Zeke has been playing against defenses that haven’t hit him hard yet. You need to hit him hard, and welcome him to the NFC East.

    And that’s almost word for word.

  484. 484 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    That’s amazing… I’d certainly rather listen to Baldi, or any former player instead of anyone else working for sports radio. Political correctness is actually getting worse, which I didn’t really think was possible

  485. 485 The original AG said at 3:57 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Baldy is usually on point with a lot of things, and he’s pretty consistent when it comes to evaluation. He doesn’t put the homer glasses on that much unless it’s warranted (Friday talking about how they can win the game, hence this bounty thing). He’s the only reason I started listening to the morning show.

  486. 486 daveH said at 5:35 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Bad phrasing… take Baldinger out but do nothing regarding the increasing missed & bad calls by the refs ..

  487. 487 Bert's Bells said at 5:42 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    If “political correctness” is holding people accountable for implying that teams are dropping bounties on players, then we need more of it.

  488. 488 Ark87 said at 4:57 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    word for word according to the article:

    “This is the guy that that we’ve got to hurt. This is the guy that we’ve got to take out of the game. There’s got to be 10 guys that want to hurt him every single play. In fact, we may even put a little bounty on Ezekiel Elliott.”

  489. 489 The original AG said at 7:50 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Didn’t he clarify that statement earlier about not intentionally injuring a player? I’m skeptical about Brietbart’s reporting as is, because generally they don’t give context or pretext to the statement and it just hangs out there.

    If the Eagles are taking cheap shots a la Terrell Suggs, and going after the knees or taking late hits, I can see this as a problem. But football is a violent sport and defenses go in looking for ways to get good hits on a player. Heck, a Pittsburgh Steelers LB just admitted that in relation to how defenses look to hit Cam.

  490. 490 Blackfoot said at 3:52 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    the same country that put a girls punk band in jail thinks we are pussies?

  491. 491 Bert's Bells said at 5:40 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  492. 492 Bert's Bells said at 5:43 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  493. 493 Tumtum said at 12:11 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Are you upset about his agreeing with Russians or thinking we are collectively a giant vagina?

  494. 494 Bert's Bells said at 7:46 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Good question!

  495. 495 ChoTime said at 12:25 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Does the caps mean “Ivan Drago” voice?

  496. 496 The original AG said at 3:48 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    That’s ridiculous. I heard the segment and he said nothing of the sort. SMH. What he said is no different than the Pittsburgh player saying they look forward to hitting Cam Newton because of how he celebrates.

  497. 497 BobSmith77 said at 1:53 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    6 months?! Talk about overkill.

  498. 498 Nailed It! said at 3:49 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Tooth!? Hahaha, nah man I ain’t going live 11 on 11 today my tooth acting funny.

  499. 499 Blackfoot said at 3:50 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    its always something with that guy.

  500. 500 GermanEagle said at 4:08 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    In all fairness proper tooth ache is not nice…

  501. 501 PacificPurl said at 4:20 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    You’re right. I’ve had a tooth infection so bad that my dentist wouldn’t touch it until I went through a course of antibiotics. Then it took slightly over 2 hours to extract because remaining infection blocked the anesthetic and the tooth kept breaking into pieces. For a good 2 months during that time there was a whole drum line pounding from my shoulder all the way to the top of my head. It is not an experience I care to repeat.

  502. 502 GermanEagle said at 4:22 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Exactly. I am still undecided what’s worse: epic tooth / head or ear ache???

  503. 503 Aaron said at 4:42 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  504. 504 GermanEagle said at 5:05 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  505. 505 Ark87 said at 5:48 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Re: Baldy suspension

    If it were Michael Irvin (also NFL network employee) that went on a radio show in Dallas and said

    “This is the guy that that we’ve got to hurt. This is the guy that we’ve got to take out of the game. There’s got to be 10 guys that want to hurt him every single play. In fact, we may even put a little bounty on Carson Wentz.”

    We would be calling him the biggest piece of human filth on the planet, and call for him to be fired immediately. So let’s check our hypocrisy, folks.

  506. 506 Crus57 said at 6:56 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    maybe Kendricks doesn’t count since he’d more likely hurt himself flying past grasping at air? Afterall, he tackles RBs like a bear catching salmon.

  507. 507 Tumtum said at 12:06 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    That is hilarious because it is a perfect description.

  508. 508 The original AG said at 8:53 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    This I agree with, it is their right. I just don’t agree with their decision. Which is why I’m among the large number of Monday Morning QBs on this site. 🙂

  509. 509 Tumtum said at 12:04 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Watkins, duh.

  510. 510 truehaynes said at 6:37 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Without looking at any stats it certainly feels like sleeves threw deep more last year than Carson has this year.

  511. 511 meteorologist said at 7:51 PM on November 2nd, 2016:


  512. 512 FairOaks said at 8:21 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Wentz started out throwing downfield quite a bit, but it has progressively gotten worse. May simply be game-planning… and that bit them when they choose a bubble screen to try for a 1st down while in FG range they desperately need.

  513. 513 truehaynes said at 8:51 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Yeah. And I don’t think Bradford is a better down field thrower, just saying he hasn’t been taking many shots

  514. 514 anon said at 10:46 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Think more mid range passes as well. Chip def had more wrs running free last year though hands were still a huge problem

  515. 515 Tumtum said at 12:02 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Give it time. He has had his deep balls. Just not the last few weeks.

  516. 516 myartz04 said at 6:58 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Crabtree and Cooper have a combined 99 catches for the Raiders so far this year. All 4 Eagles WR have 88 combined. Gross.

  517. 517 anon said at 10:45 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    No one here wanted crabtree when he was a flamed our wr w 49ers

  518. 518 Insomniac said at 11:57 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    he has a stud QB that can make all the throws instead of a QB that an make one throw.

  519. 519 Dave said at 7:23 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

  520. 520 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 7:25 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Been saying he was stopped on the wrong side of the bridge all day. Not excusing him but…

  521. 521 Dave said at 7:25 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Obviously, Murphy is forgetting about the DUI.

  522. 522 GermanEagle said at 7:28 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    DUI: 3 months licence revoked.

  523. 523 Dave said at 7:31 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Which then leads to his next arrest for driving with a suspended license.

  524. 524 Cafone said at 9:05 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    If players would just stay in the city like Connor Barwin they wouldn’t have to worry about New Jersey’s laws and they’d have more fun too.

  525. 525 James said at 8:44 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Why would you want to live in jersey? gross

  526. 526 truehaynes said at 9:01 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    God that’s just painful. Man could spend years in prison

  527. 527 Cafone said at 9:01 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    I thought pot was a $100 fine.

  528. 528 wee2424 said at 12:15 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    The ammo was not legal. The 9 was loaded with hollow tip.

  529. 529 John Galt said at 12:41 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Hollow points are illegal in NJ. They are legal in PA, the point was if he got pulled over on the PA side of the bridge it would have been a lot less of a problem for him

  530. 530 wee2424 said at 12:49 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    I was under the impression that they have been illegal in PA for years.

  531. 531 BobSmith77 said at 1:51 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    New Jersey has some of the most unfriendly gun laws in the U.S. Not taking a position on the issue but just saying.

  532. 532 GermanEagle said at 7:29 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    So after all this huff and puffin, time to focus on Sheli and the Giants!

    Please get to 5-3, Doug. Thanks.

  533. 533 The original AG said at 8:51 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    If Huff were a better WR say Maclin level (solid numbers and contributor) would the stop have gone the same? I’ve never been pulled over by the bridge cops, so not sure how they roll.

  534. 534 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:58 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Not sure about the stop but i think the fan reaction would be different

  535. 535 Cafone said at 8:59 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    After this week, 5 of the 8 games remaining will be at home.

  536. 536 BobSmith77 said at 1:49 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    One of several reasons why they so desperately need to win this game. They do and I like their chances of making the playoffs.

  537. 537 The original AG said at 9:33 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    Well to add insult to injury, we seem to have a WR that can hold onto the ball downfield. It’s just that he’s always deactivated.

  538. 538 Insomniac said at 11:55 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    we talking about practice?

  539. 539 ChoTime said at 12:22 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    no sheah!

  540. 540 The original AG said at 9:37 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    While Huff spends time breaking the law and Agholor spends time getting mad at reporters, Jordan Matthews has decided to spend his time in fantasy land.

  541. 541 Jbirdss said at 11:55 PM on November 2nd, 2016:

    wow such a hack job misquoting him, Matthews didn’t say anything close to that. He said WRs need to step up and play to the level where other teams are worried about them.

  542. 542 BobSmith77 said at 1:48 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Suffers from unwarranted delusion of grandeur

  543. 543 SteveH said at 1:05 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    This is maybe the greatest tweet of all time.

  544. 544 BobSmith77 said at 1:56 AM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Roseman and Lurie still haven’t said anything in regards to Huff on the record and largely left Pederson out on an island today.

    Pretty cowardly to not have someone from the front office address the issue with the media.