Posted: December 24th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 258 Comments »

It is Christmas Eve and I’m about to hit the road to go visit family and see what gifts Santa brings my nephew Jason…and the rest of us, assuming we haven’t committed any unsportsmanlike penalties or wiped out TD passes due to not being on the line of scrimmage. In the spirit of Christmas, let’s talk about some presents we’ve gotten.

First, and foremost, is Carson Wentz. I know he has some doubters, but I think anyone who has watched this young man all year with a clear mind can see he is very talented and has all the intangibles to be a championship QB. He’s got a lot of issues to work on, but they are things that can be coached. The things he does have for sure are things that can’t be coached. He’s big and athletic. He’s tough. He’s unselfish. His teammates love him. He is hard-working and committed to the game of football.

The win over the Giants. Losing destroys your soul, one week at a time. You begin to expect it. Ambivalence sets in, which is the worst kind of sports fan to be. You don’t care if the team wins or loses. It was important for the team to win for their own reasons, but it also is good for those following the team. An Iggles Blitz reader pointed out in the comments section that sports is all about hope. Only one team wins it all in a year. The other teams hope to be that team in the future. Too much losing kills hope. A “meaningless” win against the Giants helps to restore hope. Plus we got sad Eli face for a whole week. Thanks Eli.

Lane Johnson’s return. We’re all upset with him for the suspension, but at the end of the day, this team wasn’t winning the Super Bowl this year, with or without him. Hopefully Johnson learned a huge lesson and he can become a rock on the O-line for the foreseeable future. We all wondered how he would play in his return, especially in a short week. Johnson had a good game and reminded us all how valuable he is. The Eagles are 4-1 with him on the field this year. That makes me feel even better about the future.

A season finale with Dallas. We get to care about the final game. No one wants to get swept by Dallas. The Eagles have a chance to beat the Boys at the Linc, something that hasn’t happened much in recent years. It would feel really good to head into the offseason with wins over the Giants and Cowboys.

Sam Bradford. The Vikings are getting beaten by the Packers as I type this. A loss would help to improve the draft pick the Eagles got from Minnesota in exchange for Bradford. The Eagles paid a steep price for Wentz, but dealing Bradford for what will be at least a mid-1st rounder makes that deal feel so much better.

Malcolm Jenkins. The Eagles secondary needs work. No one would dispute that. Jenkins is the guy you build the secondary around. He can play short or deep. He can man the slot. He can play man or zone. He can hit and tackle. He can blitz. He’s a team leader and does good work in the community. Thank god the Saints were dumb enough to let this guy hit free agency. I love having Jenkins as part of the Eagles family.

Brandon Graham. I feel so happy for Graham, who had some terrible luck early on. He played well as a rookie and then hurt his knee. That made his second year almost completely a wash. The next year he was a role player on a defense that was awful. He showed signs of getting back to his previous form. Then Chip Kelly got hired and Graham was moved to OLB. He struggled there for a year, but made big progress and became a regular player in 2014. He started at LB in 2015 and had a good year. This season he was rewarded with a move back to 4-3 DE and Graham has played lights out. His whole career he’s had to hear about Earl Thomas and JPP. Graham is a good enough player that those questions are gone and we can talk about whether he’s getting enough national recognition or not. No one questions the fact he’s a terrific pass rusher.

Fran Duffy. I’ve not been able to put out my game reviews much in the last couple of months. Work and family issues have been overwhelming to my schedule. Fran does brilliant work for He cheats by getting the All-22 before anyone else, but we’ll forgive him for that because he’s so awesome at what he does. If you don’t read his pieces every week, you should.

Happy Holidays everyone.


Personal note…A few of you asked about the lack of posts this week. My grandmother died on Monday and we had a gathering on Thursday and then the funeral on Friday. That limited my ability to post stuff.

No reason to be sad, though. Granny Pat was 97. She got her money’s worth out of life and then some. She was the best grandmother anyone could ever want and helped make me the person I am today.


258 Comments on “Presents”

  1. 1 NoDecaf said at 2:53 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Condolences Tommy.

  2. 2 EJ said at 3:02 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Another present we have in Philly is Iggles Blitz. This is a good time of year to give back too Tommy and click on that “Donate” button.

    So sorry for your loss, Tommy.

  3. 3 Julescat said at 3:26 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Godspeed to your grandfather

  4. 4 sflomenb said at 3:37 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Sorry to hear about your grandmother Tommy.

  5. 5 ChoTime said at 3:55 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    My condolences. 97 is awesome and hopefully you got the genes so we can look forward to your posts for years to come. Merry Christmas, big T!

  6. 6 Dave said at 4:03 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    SMH watching the Pats.

  7. 7 Insomniac said at 4:49 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Rowe’s only 2 picks came from Fitzpatrick.

  8. 8 Dave said at 4:58 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    That would have been a TD if Carroll was covering him.

  9. 9 Insomniac said at 6:33 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    None of our past 6 CBs knew how to turn their head around.

  10. 10 Craig Cooley said at 4:12 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Sorry for your loss. Are you saying Granny Pat loved Funyuns and PBR?

  11. 11 ChoTime said at 4:37 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    OT: Merry Christmas!

  12. 12 Dave said at 4:39 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    You like that?!

  13. 13 ChoTime said at 11:31 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Well, I found it amusing, in a goose-necking kind of way. Not my best look, I know.

  14. 14 Dave said at 2:32 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    I’m not sure if you got my joke there.

  15. 15 Insomniac said at 4:44 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    He just destroyed her knee. Kurt Cousin’s legacy will be, “I ended that cheerleader’s career”.

  16. 16 Sean Stott said at 6:31 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Let’s keep calling him Kurt Cousins

  17. 17 Insomniac said at 6:34 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Will do.

  18. 18 daveH said at 9:24 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Knee and face .. but no scorpion .. she bounced right up like a real champ

  19. 19 ChoTime said at 11:30 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Is it just me, or did the DL kind of hit him out of bounds and push him into her?

  20. 20 Tumtum said at 4:47 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    That poor girl.

  21. 21 daveH said at 9:22 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    She took it like a champ

  22. 22 Dave said at 4:44 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    If Chip loses the next 2 games and the 49ers end up with the #1 pick in the draft, I can’t see Chip being the coach in 2017. How could they keep him?

  23. 23 Greg said at 11:09 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I really don’t know how he got the SF job in the first place. I hope he stays in the league as long as possible. Then the Eagles only have to worry about 30 other teams.

  24. 24 Tumtum said at 4:46 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Merry Christmas Tommy. Hope you have a good one. I’ll have one for Granny tonight.

  25. 25 Insomniac said at 4:52 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Sorry for your loss Tommy.

  26. 26 scratcherk said at 5:18 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Condolences Tommy. But I’m wishing you and your family the merriest of Christmases!

  27. 27 A_T_G said at 5:31 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    The changes she saw in 97 years is pretty amazing to consider. You are lucky to have spent time with her. I will give my 86-year old grandmother an extra hug tomorrow in honor of yours.

    Merry Christmas or happy holiday of your choice to everyone out there.

  28. 28 unhinged said at 5:35 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    “Losing destroys your soul, one week at a time.”

    How sweet would this be? Lions put loss 3 on the Dallas Pretenders tomorrow, and Eagles give them a gut punch just before their playoff bye. Three weeks to ponder 2 consecutive losses, and really wonder if they belong in the post-season. Eagles better show up.

  29. 29 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:45 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    LOL. What fantasy land is this story fom?

  30. 30 unhinged said at 5:57 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Are you an Eagles fan? I didn’t think so.

  31. 31 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:35 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    That must be it

  32. 32 ChoTime said at 11:29 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    It’s from the “this is probably what would happen to the Eagles if we were in Dallas’ position” fantasy land.

  33. 33 P_P_K said at 6:15 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Plus, we bang up both Dak and Romo, creating a health and performance-related qb controversy.

  34. 34 Dave said at 5:40 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Holy cow! An insane coup happened in Green Bay today. The question is, who loses their job, the coach or the players?

  35. 35 kid said at 6:24 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    the players were idiots

  36. 36 Insomniac said at 6:35 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Can they trade one of them to us now?

  37. 37 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:37 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Not sure I want that kind of stupid on this team

  38. 38 Insomniac said at 6:38 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Maybe it was their plan to get out of Minny?

  39. 39 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:41 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Id rather not see their plan to get out of Philly. What they did took a special kind of stupid

  40. 40 Insomniac said at 6:41 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    So true but I’m that desperate for a #1 CB.

  41. 41 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:43 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    They should draft 2 CBs within the first 4 rounds

  42. 42 Insomniac said at 6:44 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Yea I hope they do. CB is supposedly very deep this year.

  43. 43 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:49 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    it would be a shame if we don’t grab at least one early

  44. 44 Media Mike said at 8:27 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    This is so bad. Zimmer is an amazing coach. I cannot believe these idiots decided to alter the gameplan on their own. This really needs to carry over to a Vikings loss next week.

  45. 45 BlindChow said at 12:47 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Maybe he’ll bench their DB’s and just play 7 on defense.

  46. 46 D3FB said at 5:55 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Granny Pat doing PBR Keg Stands in the sky

  47. 47 TrentColeHamels said at 6:00 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    So sorry for your loss. My best to you and your family. Merry Christmas and your eagle fan family loves you T.

  48. 48 anon said at 6:15 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Any consolation for Vikings that Sam had a monster game when they got eliminated from the playoffs.

  49. 49 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:38 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I wonder how upset they are about that 1st rounder.

  50. 50 Insomniac said at 6:38 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    They need to lose next week too.

  51. 51 Patrick said at 8:00 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Meh, obviously as high as possible, but in August we hoped we had a QB, but had to suffer not having a first round pick.
    In October we knew we had our QB and we had a first round pick, albeit one that looked to later than 26.

    Now we have our QB and cannot pick later than 18th. I’ll take that worst case scenario.

    Puts us in good position to get either, one of the RB prospects thats highly rated but drops to our pick(Fournette or more likely Cook), but if that fails, we’re picking in a spot where the likes of McCaffrey, Freeman, Foreman etc. might be available.

  52. 52 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:15 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Freeman went back to Oregon… but I’d say no to picking a RB in round anyway. If we draft an offensive player it should be John Ross or Corey Davis

  53. 53 SteveH said at 6:46 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I’d never heard of Adam Thielen before this year and now he’s popping off for 200 yards and 2 td’s. What the fuck?

  54. 54 D3FB said at 9:45 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    He MonStar’d Treadwell

  55. 55 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:42 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Carr out with something broken. Really sucks for OAK.

  56. 56 SteveH said at 6:45 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Yeah they were a legit contender this year, definitely top 5 type team.

  57. 57 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:46 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Mariotta with a broken Fibula. Not a good day for Qbs. Glad Wentz isn’t playing

  58. 58 SteveH said at 6:49 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Yeah, lost in all the Zeke/Dak hype over in Dallas is that their offensive line has stayed remarkably healthy for most of the year. Injuries can derail a super bowl season no problem.

  59. 59 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:52 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I just think the media is choosing to ignore how good the OL has been in Dallas to make a more sensational story. Zeke and Dak have already been elevated to HOF status.

  60. 60 truehaynes said at 7:10 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Yeah had a redraft already with dak going number 1 lol

  61. 61 xeynon said at 12:11 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    That’s just insanely stupid. In a redraft he wouldn’t even be the top draft pick on his own team FFS.

  62. 62 daveH said at 9:18 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I think ive seen constant praise for that big D All ASS O line all season

  63. 63 Media Mike said at 8:28 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    This is REALLY bad for the playoffs.

  64. 64 Insomniac said at 6:43 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I’m not sure which NFC team can beat the Cowgirls but I’ll be rooting for everyone that’ll face them.

  65. 65 unhinged said at 8:23 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I hope they get Green Bay in game 1. They look to be peaking, and Dallas could control the clock and still lose.

  66. 66 SteveH said at 6:44 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Just finished X-mas shopping came home and, the Browns fucking won??? That sucks, the only thing that made them interesting was their 0-16 season.

  67. 67 wee2424 said at 4:26 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    I wanted to see 0-16, but at the same time I felt bad for Hue. I think he is a solid coach that is being completely undermined by that organization.

  68. 68 CrackSammich said at 7:56 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    I don’t get the love for Hue. He looked like a child on Hard Knocks a few years ago and was clearly the worst coach in a room full of mediocrity, which clearly matched his time time in Oakland. He’s being dealt the worst luck I think I’ve ever seen in CLE, but that’s on him for going to CLE.

  69. 69 SteveH said at 6:50 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Hey, since the Vikings have been in a giving mood lately, maybe they’d want to deal us Stefon Diggs for like a 4th? Maybe the 4th they gave us?

  70. 70 SteveH said at 6:53 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Lol, Jared Goff with the solid 10/21 for 88 yards and an int stat-line. Still winning the game because the San Fransisco Chip Kellys are hot trash.

  71. 71 Ark87 said at 7:17 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Not sure if it was mentioned, but in the spirit of the article: shout out to Jason Peters for insisting that Wentz take a break to get checked out. He’s the living embodiment of a protector. Going after the guy that put a cheap shot on Foles back in the day comes to mind. Peters is aging and has a penalty problem, but it’s good to have him in the Eagle’s family. Hope he gets into the hall one day.

  72. 72 daveH said at 9:16 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    INDEED !!

  73. 73 A_T_G said at 10:47 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Well said.

  74. 74 Media Mike said at 8:29 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Is it really that much of a penalty problem, or was John Lynch correct in citing slow snaps by Kelce?

  75. 75 Ark87 said at 9:35 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    I’ve heard he tries to go imperceptively (in real time) early every snap to compensate for his declining athleticism. Would be interesting to watch his false starts, see if he is dropping into pass pro on the majority of false starts. Combine that with a slightly delayed snap from Kelce, I could totally see the penalties piling up.

    It wouldn’t surprise me (and makes more sense than Wentz having an odd cadence, which I heard another announcer speculate, since this has been a thing with JP for 2 or 3 years now), Kelce has been a mess at anything that isn’t running down field ridiculously fast for a lineman and clobbering linebackers and DB’s. He’s probably the reason we run to the outside so much, we get the chance to pull him and get him on the move (his strength) rather than go N-S up the gut (his weakness).

    I like Kelce, seems like a good guy, and very smart. Hope he coaches one day. I hoped that years of mastering technique and strength training would help him get a bit more stout, but it just hasn’t happened. Seems to have gotten worse.

  76. 76 wee2424 said at 4:25 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    It’s not something that is just coming about due to his old age. If you remember the first 2 years we had him he had a ton of false starts. He has always tried to time the snap perfectly.

  77. 77 GaEagle1023 - Tom said at 8:14 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Or ask Kelce to cut weight and turn him into a tight end. His brother is pretty damn good at it. 🙂

  78. 78 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 7:23 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Rams playing not to win the game right now

  79. 79 JB said at 7:42 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Sorry to hear about your grandmother, bro. Merry Christmas to you and the rest of our fellow Birds fans!

  80. 80 Dave said at 8:01 PM on December 24th, 2016:

  81. 81 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:15 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Please stay top 15. Please stay top 15

  82. 82 scratcherk said at 9:54 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    We can get up to #9 with some things breaking our way

  83. 83 truehaynes said at 11:54 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    If we win we are in theory helping our 1sr round pick if min falls below us

  84. 84 GordonGekko said at 1:22 PM on March 10th, 2017:

    “US” ? You don’t work for the Eagles, you dick sucking, donating money to a RETARD LOSER.

  85. 85 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:17 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    I think the Jaguars will be good in a year or 2 with a proper coach. Picking at the top of the draft every single year certainly helps

  86. 86 wee2424 said at 3:51 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Says nobody in Cleveland, Jacksonville, or Los Angelis.

  87. 87 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:48 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Hence the thing about finding the proper coach. They have a talented roster

  88. 88 wee2424 said at 8:25 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    No, the Browns and the Rams need their whole FO/scouting department to be revamped.

  89. 89 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:57 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    That’s why I was talking about Jaguars. I dont know how the Browns and Rams even came into the conversation

  90. 90 wee2424 said at 10:49 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I am just using them as examples of teams that pick in the top 10 year in and year out.

  91. 91 衣皇后 said at 9:05 PM on December 24th, 2016:


  92. 92 The original AG said at 9:36 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Tommy. My condolences.

  93. 93 A_T_G said at 10:51 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Two QBs with broken legs today. I’m glad our guy is safe and finished this week.

  94. 94 Greg said at 11:03 PM on December 24th, 2016:

    Tommy, glad your grandmother had a great life and you will get to celebrate it. Don’t let the demand for more articles stress you out. Just remember it’s a good thing that so many people want more of your great work. We readers can wait. Merry Christmas!

  95. 95 bushisamoron said at 12:01 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Love this site Tommy- rational thoughts about my irrational Eagles fandom. My condolences.

  96. 96 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 1:31 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    My condolences for your loss, Tommy. Thanks for giving this little blog the time you have. It makes a lot of people happy.

  97. 97 daveH said at 2:20 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Respekt to your family T Law.
    Please dont be out there driving like Josh Huff.
    Travel safe.. too many frustrated Bird fans in constant need of your insights.

  98. 98 A Roy said at 4:49 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Sorry for your loss, Tommy.

  99. 99 Crus57 said at 7:09 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Sorry for your loss Tommy. Here’s to a life well lived.

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 8:25 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    “I know he has some doubters, but I think anyone who has watched this young man all year with a clear mind can see he is very talented and has all the intangibles to be a championship QB.”

    This cannot be said enough times. The few of you on here who really seem to doubt Wentz can hopefully be won over by Wentz being coached through the things he’s not doing as well as necessary yet.

  101. 101 ChoTime said at 11:23 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    The doubters will be won over when he performs well consistently and stops making back-breaking errors. He’s done really great for a rookie. He still has quite a ways to go.

    There have been guys who’ve flashed potential that went downhill, too.

  102. 102 Insomniac said at 5:03 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Nick Foles.

  103. 103 ChoTime said at 7:22 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    I thought Nick had proved he would be at least an average QB in this league. (some will say he never passed the eye test, though 😉

  104. 104 daveH said at 9:53 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Yeah I thot Nick was t h e man.

  105. 105 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:44 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Wentz really has doubters? I don’t understand that at all.

    He easily exceeded my expectations of what a good rookie QB looks like. I remember times where im seeing him struggle yet I still think to myself “This kid is going to be so good”
    Our veterans seem to love this kid. I don’t take earning the respect of the lockerroom for granted especially when he was placed in the difficult position when we traded away a our veteran starting QB who this Lockerroom had openly lobbied for right before the season started.
    Every rookie QB is going to have bad games. Rookies on really good offenses like Dak Prescott get their flaws and bad games masked a little more, where as bad Games by a rookie QB in an offense with some pretty big holes can be magnified.
    When Carson had rough stretches in games I don’t think I ever felt like he unraveled or like it was too big for him. In a lot of his losses I felt like he wasn’t the reason for the loss.
    The kid took some big hits and even tho he played most of the yeàr behind an OL that was in flux playing Musical chairs, even tho he was often asked to throw way too much because our OL issues made it difficult to run the ball, even tho he was asked to throw too much on a team that lacked weapons, this kid held it together pretty well, he would get rocked but still not keep him from standing tall in the pocket with his eyes down field.
    I’d be baffled by an eagle fan who isn’t so damn excited about the future Undler Wentz. finally we have the answer to The revolving door at QB and we can start building the stability and continuity that these Offensiive players have never been able to develope playing with a QB each year.
    Hopefully Pederson will grow and improve enough as a coach to be able to keep him in place because stability and the scheme Continuity that comes with it is so damn important for a developing young QB and offense/defense for that Matter. Not since Jim Johnson did our players get 3-5 years of continuity and stability playing for a great philadelphia defensive coordinator. looks like Schartz will be back next year and I think thats Big. Stability under an established quality defensive coordinator intruigs me to see how much he can grow this defense
    Is there any doubt that Carson will work like a mad man this summer. I feel so fortunate that he was able To get so much valuable Experience to start building on and with an intelligent, driven, hardworking kid like Carson, I bet all that valuable Experiemce he got this year will expedite the growth we see from yeàr 1 to yeàr 2. Bet against this young man at your own peril. Got a lot of respect For how this rookie went about his Business in a tough situation that Wasnt all candy and unicorns all year

  106. 106 ChoTime said at 7:21 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Doubter can just mean we _don’t know for sure_, not the same thing as hater. I’m just not going to say he’s “there” until he actually is doing it on a consistent basis. But he’s obviously shown flashes and exceeded expectations.

  107. 107 Tumtum said at 7:24 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Doubting is fair. He isn’t there. I would say he is right on schedule though.

  108. 108 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:06 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    If he was elite already there would be nothing to doubt or project.
    Think its normal for people who think Carson will become the Franchise QB to be able to fairly critique a kid and be honest about his current flaws and areas he needs to improve to become the player we need him to be, Pretending he doesn’t need to get Better in any area would be delusional. Doubter to me does not mean someone who is honest about his flaws and areas he needs to improve.
    A “Doubter” to me is someone who doesn’t think Wentz is the long term answer for this franchise. I don’t think Wentz supporters should be delusional and pretend that he doesn’t have flaws. A doubter is someone who thinks this kid isn’t the answer to our Franchise QB need and that we need to continue looking for that guy
    Thinking we found our Franchise QB doesn’t mean pulling out the Pom poms and overlooking all the areas he needs to improve at in order to become the QB we think he can be

  109. 109 eagleyankfan said at 9:02 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    as an add on…there are those who think people are doubting, when they aren’t. For example, if Wentz had a bad game and someone posts, “man Wentz is awful”. Poster doesn’t mean Wentz career is awful nor does it mean Wentz is having an awful season nor does it mean “ah man, they ruined Wentz by playing him”. Yet other posters will jump all over that comment as ‘hater’ or ‘negative’..Maybe the poster simply means that Wentz had a bad day…..Tommy posted that Eagles weren’t going to win the SB this year with or without LJ. When posters said that since day 1 of the season, we were all “negative” — which was never true…

  110. 110 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:05 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I think you can fairly critique a players performamce and poïnt out what he needs,to work on, while still being very excited and confident about his long term prospects.
    I don’t have much doubt about this kid putting in the work it will take to become our franchise QB. He clearly has all the tools, and he seems to have the tempermemt, intelligence and work ethic to realize his full potential. While I feel strongly about his future I have no problem talking about the areas of his game he needs to Improve on to become the caliber of QB I believe he can become
    Obviously Carson Wentz isn’t there yet, nor should anyone expect him to be at this stage of his pro career. Since he isn’t elite yet, obviously he has flaws keeping him from being at that level. That’s just a fact, the kid needs to improve in a lot of areas, but so does every rookie QB to ever take an NFL field.
    There is nothing wrong with fairly critiquing the current flaws of young players that we are very high on. believing in a young QB does not mean pretending he is perfect, it does not mean turning a blind eye to areas he needs to improve on.
    If you compare Wentz performances to the Elite NFL QBs, obviously there leaves a lot to be desired still. if you compare Wentz play to the top rookie QBs of recent NFL history,there is a lot to be excited about. The kid has the physical and mental tools, he allegedly has the drive and work ethic. It’s up to the coaches and the kid to make sure he realizes his full potential. If that happens, we should have a legit franchise QB on our hands… But potential isn’t promised. All you can do is find the kids with the best combo of upside and intangibles that you would bet on reaching that upside…. I don’t know about you, but Wentz is looking like a good bet to me….

  111. 111 BobSmith77 said at 11:21 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    It’s fair to wonder who quickly his accuracy and touch can progress. Ditto some of his ill-advised gambles. Favre seemed to get credited for that early in his career with the Packers but criticized later on for playing a lot in the same manner.

  112. 112 Media Mike said at 8:31 AM on December 25th, 2016:

    Quite sorry about your Grandmother Tommy. My grandfather made it to 97 as well. His body ultimately failed him, but his mind was still sharp at death. I hope you were able to enjoy your time with her up until the end.

  113. 113 since1961 said at 12:38 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Thanks for sharing with us, Tommy, the sad as well as the sweet. It’s wonderful you shared such a bond with her, and she will always be a presence in your life.

    Thanks also for this blog, the gift that pleases so many year after year.

  114. 114 ACViking said at 1:00 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Hear, hear

  115. 115 laeagle said at 1:16 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Condolences, Tommy, and also thanks for all you give. Happy holidays to you and everyone else here!

  116. 116 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:21 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Sorry for your loss. I never seen a year where so many people lost family members during Xmas week. My heart goes out to all the families I know that have had to deal with Loss this Xmas (like 6 families that I know of), as well as an 81yr old lady who was senslessly shot n killed in south philly yesterday
    All the terrorist attacks around the world this week DIDNT help either…. Stay Classy Planet Earth smh 2016 really needs to end ASAP

  117. 117 GermanEagle said at 6:40 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    My condolences, Tommy. 97 years though, wow!

    Merry Christmas to you and your family.

  118. 118 anon said at 8:47 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Merry Christmas everyone. Tommy sad to hear about your gma, but since you can’t live forever i’m happy to hear she led a full life

    Speaking of holiday cheer is it sad that i’m just hoping for teams not to make the playoffs?

  119. 119 anon said at 8:52 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    If the historian, ACViking is around, i’d be interested to know what % of super bowl willing teams or even NFC/AFC champs had no in-season changes to their o-line. This team seems to be night and day with the starting 5 healthy, Vikings last year were sb contenders and AP was the rushing champ when all OL healthy, this year they suck and can’t run the ball.

    As an organization should you be looking for OL w/out injury histories? Instead of trying to get a bargain on injured guys.

    Also interesting to year that in the beginning of the year steelers were running behind 5 ol, now they’re running behind 6, like 30% of the time. How often have we used an extra ol – is that something we should do more?

  120. 120 Insomniac said at 8:57 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Hey Andy i think it would be fair if you gave us Hill for letting you tamper and get Maclin..

  121. 121 daveH said at 11:11 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Chiefs drop TD pass, right in his hands. . Next pass dropped at the 5 in the hands again .. wonder if total drops are way up in the mediocre nfl this season

  122. 122 BobSmith77 said at 11:17 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    Sorry to hear about your loss Tommy.

  123. 123 BobSmith77 said at 11:27 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    More I watch Reid and the more I appreciate him as a coach & what he acomplished here. Still has share of detractors as does McNabb because they didn’t win a Super Bowl.

    Sure the same people will root against in the playoffs too but I’m rooting for Big Red to win the Super Bowl this year. Especially love to see him beat the Pats in Foxboro in the process too.

  124. 124 daveH said at 11:51 PM on December 25th, 2016:

    He doesn’t deserve a mercy victory.

  125. 125 unhinged said at 12:15 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    I was ready for AR to leave us (about 3 years before he did), but I too have great respect for his comprehensive approach to the role of HC. He picked a run and gun slinger and tried to force him into a WC QB, and it was a credit to both that they made a go of it. He’s got a natural WC QB now, and they are a division winner again, and one of the top 5 teams in the league. Didn’t the Chiefs and Dolphins play a historic playoff game eons ago? A reprise would be fun to see.

  126. 126 Tumtum said at 11:14 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’ll go as far as to say that I think Reid is a better coach than The Hoodie.

  127. 127 xeynon said at 12:06 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Condolences on the loss of your grandmother Tommy. I’m glad she had a long, good life.

    Couldn’t agree more about this season. Still lots to work on, but Wentz looks like the real deal, and having a franchise QB is the most important piece and the hardest one to get right. Tons of reasons to be optimistic heading into the offseason.

  128. 128 eagleyankfan said at 9:18 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    There are 2 questions we don’t have to answer next year(hopefully). Who the HC will be and who the QB will be. That’s huge after a few years of instability. I also think the Eagles know more about their roster(and some of their coaches). Eagles will build on what I think was a successful rebuilding season. Nothing but excitement for 2018. Year 2 of building a new culture….

  129. 129 Tumtum said at 11:12 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    When was the last time we into the off season with no questions at QB? Feels good man.

    Even after Foles’s incredible year Chip wouldn’t fully endorse him (nice confidence boost for the kid). Though looking back it feels like Chip really didn’t like that Foles took from his shine, or probably any of the guys who did well on O that he got rid of.

  130. 130 Tom33 said at 2:44 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    If the HC keeps calling double reverses with the QB as the lead blocker, they will be replacing at least one of those sooner than you think.

  131. 131 Media Mike said at 9:35 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    A quick Fanspeak draft


  132. 132 Media Mike said at 9:49 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    And a First Pick (with some clutch trade downs)

    Round 1 Pick 23 (MIA): Desmond King, CB, Iowa (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 8: Takkarist McKinley, OLB/DE, UCLA (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 19 (T.B.): Dorian Johnson, OG, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 2 Pick 23 (MIA): Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU (B)
    Round 3 Pick 8: D’Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 8: Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 8: Julie’n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B)
    Round 7 Pick 8: Speedy Noil, WR, Texas A&M (B-)

  133. 133 BlindChow said at 10:24 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Twitter needs a “block mock drafts” button.

  134. 134 Bert's Bells said at 10:25 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Saw the shape of this post and immediately thought: “looks like the comment sections are ruined for the next few months”

  135. 135 ChoTime said at 10:40 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’m not a fan of the mocks either, but at least there’s been a noticeable drop in the 3000 word ruminations this season.

  136. 136 Bert's Bells said at 10:51 AM on December 26th, 2016:


  137. 137 Tumtum said at 11:10 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Apathy I guess. Also not a fan of mocks or the draft in general (until we know who we get).

  138. 138 Media Mike said at 12:28 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    If I’m not the one launching one, I’ll strive to keep them as replies to somebody else’s mock. Then you can downsize the post and only have to do it once. I get the exercise vexes a lot of you, but a group of us do enjoy them and I find the feedback I get from others on the specific players selected to be really informative.

  139. 139 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:49 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    I hope we dont wait that long to draft a CB or only take one.

  140. 140 Tumtum said at 11:09 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    I think a top end skill guy (or 2) trump the need for a CB. Sure CB is a gaping hole. I just want to pour every resource into ensuring that the QB works out. Not to mention Baltimore proved this year that offense > defense these days.

  141. 141 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 11:20 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    We cant win our division without CBs. And right now all we have is Jalen Mills.

  142. 142 Media Mike said at 12:18 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’d say we can’t win the division without an improved D. But is that a better DE getting more pressure helping the cover group, is that a better guy in the LB group who can make less mistakes in guessing the wrong hole to fill and/or missed tackles and/or covering better (these are all shots at Kendricks!!!), or an actual better CB who can allow the pass rush more time to get home?

  143. 143 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:22 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    CB is the weakest link on defense right now. Another edge rusher is needed but CB is straight desolate.

  144. 144 Media Mike said at 12:25 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I don’t think you’re wrong, but I still won’t force CB if the value isn’t there when we’re picking. There are upgrades needed all over this roster.

  145. 145 Tumtum said at 12:45 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Its a tough call, but I really would prefer a WR or RB at that top spot. Obviously use BPA though. Hell if a tackle is jumping off the board at you right there, then do it. My dream scenario is for a guy to help Carson.

  146. 146 Media Mike said at 12:17 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’m 100% on board with BPA. We need upgrades at starter at every position group except QB and S; so I’m really going to root in best player the whole way.

  147. 147 Sb2bowl said at 3:20 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    First draft of the year- no trades.









  148. 148 teltschikfakeout88 said at 11:29 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Micah kiser is staying at uva…

  149. 149 Media Mike said at 10:10 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    So ideally for playoffs;

    Cowboys, Giants, and Steelers all lose as early as possible.

    I deem New England, KC, Detroit, Green Bay, Atlanta, and Seattle permitted winners of the title.

    I deem Oakland, Miami, and Houston not worth discussing for title purposes.

  150. 150 anon said at 10:18 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    houston is in the playoffs? Can we relocate to AFC south that division is terrible.

  151. 151 Tumtum said at 11:07 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Just like the NL East!

  152. 152 Sb2bowl said at 10:27 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    I hate the Steelers (almost as much as New England, but for different reasons). And I loathe the Cowboys. Giants I’m “meh” about, but I’ll be happy to see Sad Eli face any day

    I’d like Detroit, Atlanta, KC, Miami, or Oakland to make a run from their prospective conferences

  153. 153 Tumtum said at 11:05 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Gotta hate the friggin Giants man. In all honestly I hate them more than the Cowboys. Cowboys haven’t done anything in 20 years to deserve real hatred.

  154. 154 Ryan Rambo said at 11:14 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Their fans tho. I live in Dallas. They are the WORST!!!

  155. 155 Tumtum said at 1:08 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I always hear about how the “Dallas resident” fans are super white collar and not all that die hard. Seems like the most die hard guys live everywhere else! They suck in DC!!!

  156. 156 Sb2bowl said at 1:21 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’m in north east PA- most of these mouth breeders can’t even spell Dallas, but they know how to root for the star.

    Maybe that’s it- simple minds go for the shiny object most often flashed into their eyesight? I dunno…………..

  157. 157 Sb2bowl said at 1:14 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I really don’t hate the Giants; I can’t stand them, but my deep seated disdain for Dallas rules over all. I’ve got at least a tiny bit of respect for Giants fans, some of them actually know how to hold a conversation regarding football.

    How Eli has a super bowl appearance, much less 2 MVP’s is beyond my comprehension, but it is what it is. Dallas on the other hand is the bastard child of the NFL; they are allowed to do as they please, get favorable decisions in games (see playoff game against Detroit) and suffer almost zero repercussions for their violations even during the season (see Michael Irvin, Dean Blandino party bus for example).

    It’s bullshit, and I’ll never root for them. I won’t root for the Giants either, but if it comes to it- NY all day over Dallas.

  158. 158 Ark87 said at 10:31 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Someone needs to stop Dallas, somehow. I’ll take any other outcome.

  159. 159 Ryan Rambo said at 10:59 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    A team with a good enough pass rush to consitently rattle Dak and good D-line to contain Zeke. LEGGO!!

  160. 160 Bert's Bells said at 11:10 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Is Dak playing this week?

    They might want to put him on ice with Hicks lining up in the middle against him.

  161. 161 Ryan Rambo said at 11:15 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Week 17? Hmmm, not sure. I know they are going “business as usual” w/ no limitations for tonight’s game vs Detroit.

  162. 162 Tumtum said at 11:04 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Don’t worry. They will lose in their first game unless some scrub squad squeaks through.

  163. 163 Ryan Rambo said at 10:24 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    So if the Bears beat the Vikings and the Bucs beat the Panthers wk 17, our 1st rounder from the Vikings will be #9?

  164. 164 Sb2bowl said at 10:25 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    We need a little more than that to happen, but that’s the start of it.

  165. 165 Tumtum said at 11:02 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    It really is sad to see what is happening with them. I feel scummy benefiting from their demise. I always thought Zimmer was a good coach. What the heck is going on in Minn?

    That being said… a top 10 WR or RB would feel pretty friggin good man. Lets get this kid another mule to shoulder the load.

  166. 166 Ryan Rambo said at 11:18 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    “I feel scummy benefiting from their demise.”

    LOL…I don’t! I don’t hate them though. All my hate is reserved for Dallass, but I want as good a pick as we can get. We need help brotha!!

  167. 167 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:40 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    WTF is going on with the Viking DBs going Rogue on Zimmer?

    Apparently the DBs decided during the week that they were going to go against the coaches game plan and on their own they decided that they weren’t going to execute the game plan. The game plan during the week allegedly called for Rhodes following the #1 WR all over the field, but the playërs decided they were just going to lineup normally instead of shadowing the top WR
    Very surprising to me that this would happen to zimmer especially with defensive players being insubordinate, Zimmer has a ton of cache as a defensive coach and he has a long relationship with Newman, one of the two cormers Who openly disrespected him like this
    Curious to see how the Vikings will handle this because Xavier Rhodes is one of their most valuable players. I would think the vikings Couldnt allow this to go unpunished

  168. 168 Tumtum said at 12:40 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Add in the fact Norv Turner resigned, and I feel like Zimmer needs to really lop off some heads this off-season or he is destined to failure.

  169. 169 ACViking said at 12:46 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Odd how mediocrity and dysfunction seem to follow Sam Bradford.

  170. 170 Sb2bowl said at 1:20 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Do you think it has anything to do with the Sleeves?

  171. 171 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:51 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Yea man it’s not a good look. It’s almost like Zimmer has to swing the axe, or the owner might have to take the Axe to Zimmer.
    terrence Newman is 38 years old, so that’s an easy cut even tho Zimmer has a very long relationship with him, but Newman shouldnt have taken it for granted, But Xavier Rhodes is an elite corner, that’s a dicey situation and it will look Transparant and bad if he punishes the 38yr old while givng Rhodes a pass
    Shit Id be happy to łet The Vikings keep their first round pick if they need us to “come to the rescue” and take Rhodes off their hands 🙂

  172. 172 nevadausa16 said at 12:52 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    if Rhodes was the mutineer, is that really someone that should be added to the lockerroom?

    this whole story is insane, though.

  173. 173 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:53 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Yeah that’s also a good point

  174. 174 Tumtum said at 1:06 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I would risk it in a heart beat. The quotes from Xavier really sounded like he was just going along with the rest of the DBs anyway.

    The vibe I got when reading them was that he was kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. We have all experienced the coaches sucking up to the stud players. From my extensive knowledge of NFL locker rooms (thanks HBO), they don’t appear to be any different. Have to think it is hard for a guy to mutiny against a coach who loves him.

  175. 175 Sb2bowl said at 1:19 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Please, 100% on Rhodes. Dude is a stud

  176. 176 Sb2bowl said at 1:18 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Just read on that it was Terence Newman that suggested to Rhodes that they stay on their preferred sides.

    Like you alluded too, Zimmer and Newman have a very long relationship, which makes it strange that Newman would lead the mutiny.

  177. 177 Sb2bowl said at 10:24 AM on December 26th, 2016:

    Sorry for your loss, Tommy. My grandma was 94 when she passed away; the other is suffering from dementia and is a shell of herself. Cherish the good memories. I hope you had a great Christmas, none the less.

    Thanks for your work on this website- I found you just as you started this website, and Jimmy was starting up BloggingTheBeast (I miss story time with Uncle Jimmy). I’m a daily (multiple) reader, though I don’t post terribly often. Glad to be among like-minded phanatics, this is my favorite online Eagles community.

  178. 178 GermanEagle said at 3:42 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’m terribly sorry for being the party pooper, but there’s no chance in hell Matt frigging Barkley beats the Vikings.

  179. 179 GermanEagle said at 3:42 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    SORRY this reply was meant to be for the post below..

  180. 180 Sb2bowl said at 3:43 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Never say never.

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no it wasn’t!

    (Figured as much, but I’m the only one at work and I’m bored, so it’ll slide this time). Lol

  181. 181 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:46 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I feel like part of Jason peters infuriating amount of false start penalties has a lot to do with how he aggressively tries to force refs to call false start penalties on the DL jumping whenever a DL even twitches.
    Unfortunately I don’t think they keep track of how many times he successfully gets the ref to call false start on the DL lined up across from him so we can’t compare his success rate in those scenarios to the number of total times he gets flagged for offside penalties so we don’t know if it’s really a Net positive THATS beficial for him continuing to hunt off side penalties the way he does. Or is it hurting way more than it’s helping in which case he showed chamge his approach from hunting for those DL offside penalties and just put all his focus into cutting down on his false start penalties as much as possible.
    But there are a lot of times where he jumps on purpose forcing the refs hand in throwing a penalty that benefits us in a big way. When he successfully pulls it off, he is a crafty veteran, when it doesn’t work it adds to league leading false start penalties, thin line between crafty veteran and liability.
    It’s a shame we don’t have the numbers to really be able to evaluate how much it is helping or hurting us. But if I had to guess, I don’t think it has been successful enough to justify his high penalty number. SO I think he should give some thought to cutting that out of his approach this offseason because the penalties are taking away from his impressive play at this stage of his career. Typically penalties are a direct reflection of being over matched from a talemt standpoint or its a sign of Undiscaplined knucklheads. But even at this stage I don’t think Peters falls in either of that category so he really has to come back strong and do somethng about that # of penalties next year. Baiting the refs into a free first down Isnt wortth the times he gets caught jumping that put our young QB in 1st and 20 or 3rd and 11
    After last years mess with chip kelly, JP came back strong exceeding all expectations this year both in quality of play and durability. Got a lot of respect for the year Jason Peters had and I think he at least proved that he has another year in the tank starting at LT. He is a proud veteran who has to do somethng about cutting down his false start penalties in a half. The Silver linning to this years OL mess was that we got a look at a lot of players at multiple positions. We got to see how guys handle the adversity of the lack of continuity caused by constant injuries at OL, We got to see how our rookie QB held up and carried himself behind a line that was in flux all year, the kid never flinched, kept his eyes down field no matter who was blocking for him.

    2012 we dealt with OL injuries all year, which led to andy being fired AFER a disaster season. The following year we started 5 healthy lineman all 16 games and led the league in rushiñg. We paid the injury Piper this year so hopefully we enjoy good health at OL next year. An Elite OL IMO is more valuable than any RB, WR, TE… Draft another OL or two and we could have some really impressive depth On our OL lNext yeàr which would make a world of a differemce,,,,, the Eagles starting OL hasn’t lost many games, while the young backups got a lot of work in and valuable experience this year. I like Smallwood as a young RB, but with a healthy OL we are a #1 RB away from having a potent rushiñg attack that makes a world of a DIFFENCE in so many ways. An elite run game in front of year 2 Carson could be interesting
    This we saw two very important things this year:
    1) the differnce between this team when we struggle to run, compared to what this team looks like when we are controlling the clock with a Healthy OL spreading 30 carries bêtween 3 RBs. It was a Niight and Day difference.
    2) the difference between how much our defense struggled when the offense sputtered, compared to how tough our defense is when they are playing with a lead
    if we didn’t understand this before, the Dallas Cowboys certainly made sure Everyone understands know the Monster effect an elite OL and Potent Run game can have in so many important areas of the game. i feel Horrible for Ryan Mathews because he is dealing with a very serious injury, but it has made HOWIE’s decision easy. Time to go get a starting RB

  182. 182 Media Mike said at 1:00 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    John Lynch blamed Kelce’s slow snaps for a few of the false starts on Peters; I’m VERY inclined to agree!

  183. 183 Tumtum said at 1:02 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Who made John Lynch the unofficial Eagles caller anyway? I feel like he covers every damn game. He is at least doesn’t have an obviously negative Eagles bias.

  184. 184 Media Mike said at 1:03 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’ll take him over Moose Johnson.

  185. 185 Sb2bowl said at 1:17 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    He also said during the telecast that Kelce was responsible for the snapping and cadence of the ball.

    In other words, concussions are real and they will F**k you up. John Lynch is the perfect example, he’s scrambled

  186. 186 Media Mike said at 1:20 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I don’t care if somebody throwing chicken bones to tell the future blamed Kelce; I’m agreeing with blaming Kelce.

  187. 187 Sb2bowl said at 1:22 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I think he’s here for one more year, then it’s onto Isaac to man the center of the line.

  188. 188 Media Mike said at 1:31 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Yeah, sadly, the recoup on unloading Kelce going into 2017 isn’t going to be enough to justify it.

    The $3.8 mil you get back might not be enough to really upgrade LG if you use Sem at C.

  189. 189 Sb2bowl said at 1:34 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    If I’m reading that correctly, and we hold on to Kelce going into the 2018 season, he will save us $6 million and cost us $1.2mil on the cap.

    He’s here next year- I can’t really see any way he isn’t, but his question mark starts going into the 2018 season. So, we shall see

  190. 190 Media Mike said at 1:38 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Yeah; that would be the best $ read.

  191. 191 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:17 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Maybe… It’s probably not a case of one size fits all his mistakes. Im sure there were different reasons that contributed to all those penalties and lynch oppinion is plausible

  192. 192 D3FB said at 6:52 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    It’s not.

    Because otherwise Peters wouldn’t be the only guy who consistenly does it. Half of them he’s the only player that moves period. That’s not slow snaps.

  193. 193 Tumtum said at 1:01 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    It has felt like a lot of the times that he tried to get a flag on the defense he ended up getting one.

  194. 194 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:14 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Oh that has definitely happend plenty of times. Shame they don’t keep track of those numbers so that we can know exactly how much it has hurt us compared to how much it has helped us.. But if I had to guess I’d say the amount of times he got flagged for isn’t worth the amount of times he caused a ref to flag our opponent
    If he was outmatched and struggling to block an opponent I could understand the crazy amount of penalties, but it makes no sense for a guy who showed to still be an extremely capable LT to get called for that many penalties, needs to change his approach and make cutting the penalties in half a priority this offseason

  195. 195 Media Mike said at 1:03 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Watching all of the Boxing Day soccer action has me thinking I need to ask German Eagle a question; why can’t the NFL get their grass in better shape for games? I’ve only ever been on one European pro field, OGC Nice’s stadium, but you wouldn’t believe how perfect the grass was. I’m getting a tad tired of some of the brutally poor NFL playing surfaces.

  196. 196 unhinged said at 2:04 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    The NFL may be subliminally spiking it’s coffees with cyanide. The refereeing was appallingly bad this season, the yawning mediocrity of all the teams not named Patriots, the obsession with legally leveraging all of its properties to the point of eroding its own reputation, the ethical-judas-billionaire-boys-club ego-tripping fan-contempt, and the feigned concern for the protection of the players. Add these to the shitty groundskeeping, and remind me again why I’m a fan, please.

  197. 197 Julescat said at 5:04 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    add the inability by the league to stop the political statements by players holding the audience hostage.

  198. 198 unhinged said at 10:27 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    That may be your pet peeve, but it ain’t mine, and I seriously doubt that most fans begrudge the players their first amendment rights.

  199. 199 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:45 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    Are people still on about that?

  200. 200 unhinged said at 12:49 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    Not so many I think.

  201. 201 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:56 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    I think thinks its silly to get that upset at someone kneeling or raising their fist for 90 seconds.

  202. 202 KillaKadafi said at 10:37 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Add in the uncountable adverts during each broadcast and the constant fawning over players by both the SNF and MNF broadcasting teams

  203. 203 unhinged said at 11:21 PM on December 26th, 2016:


  204. 204 Crus57 said at 3:21 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Part of the grass situation is probably down to the differences in the games; soccer players are on average smaller and lighter, and action is more distributed around the pitch (with a few concentrations at the goals) so the turf doesn’t get as chewed up. Also there aren’t many times when soccer players are pushing against the ground with all their strength, something OL/DL do every minute or so.

  205. 205 GermanEagle said at 3:40 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Soccer fields are always in better shape because the players love to dive without damaging the grass..

  206. 206 Dave said at 4:50 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    or themselves…

  207. 207 GermanEagle said at 6:09 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    That’s got some serious post of the year potential my friend.

  208. 208 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:43 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Most of the damage is always the middle of field where the OL/DL tear it up.

  209. 209 Fufina said at 6:53 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    A lot of those pitches are really high tech… They are heated and have suction systems to draw away excess water – this makes the pit he’s hard which is good for running fast and balls rolling true but is not the best for best for heavy contact.

    They also often use hybrid turf where some of the underlying turf is artificial, which means that it stops it being ripped up by players feet, but in an NFL contact situations the hybrid turf can trap boots and increase knee and ankle injuries.

    However probably the bigger difference is that for the biggest clubs it is a huge performance boost (clubs like Barcelona/Madrid/Arsenal pass much more than the smaller teams) meaning they have invested a lot more in the technology and its implementation. While if anything in the NFL you are better off having an awful pitch like the Bears had and being specialised in playing on it.

  210. 210 Media Mike said at 1:32 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Kempski is on full “Kiss Bennie Logan goodbye” mode given his analysis of how weak the DT FA class is. That would really be a shame to see Bennie go, but I agree he isn’t a guy you can break the bank over.

  211. 211 Sb2bowl said at 1:45 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Hard to say what we do- but he’s a recent draft pick, a stand up guy and a young leader on our team. On one hand, I can’t see how Howie lets him go. On the other hand, how much $$ do you allocate to one position group.

    Barwin is gone next year unless he slashes his salary by 65%- he’s due $8.5, I can’t see them bringing him back for any more than $3mil and that may be an insult to Barwin. Good guy, but not very well suited for this defense.

    Curry, Cox, Graham are all getting paid next year, and very well. We need at least another edge rusher, probably a low level FA signing that Schwartz is familiar with or who has played in a similar system.

  212. 212 unhinged said at 2:18 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I haven’t researched numbers, but the years that NY won their last two superbowls, they had excellent pass rush/DL, and merely mortal LB/secondary players. They had Spags which cannot be discounted, but their determination to have top pass rush paid off. Eli Manning was more of a beneficiary of the DL, than a key reason why they won those games. Our DL is not there obviously, but losing Logan only puts our DL further away, in my opinion. I hope HR makes a decent offer, at least.

  213. 213 Tumtum said at 1:45 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    He seems like a guy who someone will back the Brinks truck up for.

  214. 214 Sb2bowl said at 1:48 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    You are correct– Look at these numbers!!!

  215. 215 anon said at 2:32 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    On the positive side? Comp picks?

  216. 216 Dave said at 4:49 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Will never get comp picks as long as rosman’s running the show.

  217. 217 Sb2bowl said at 1:42 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    So, Overthecap just put out this list. Out of any of these players, who would you take, for how long, and for what price?

    “Potential” Cut list for WR’s

    And for the people too lazy to click on the link, here you go. My Christmas present to you!

    1. Victor Cruz, Giants
    2. Danny Amendola, Patriots
    3. Eddie Royal, Bears
    4. Harry Douglas, Titans
    5. Steve Johnson, Chargers
    6. Jarius Wright, Vikings
    7. Torrey Smith, 49ers
    8. Eric Decker, Jets
    9. Brandon Marshall, Jets

  218. 218 Media Mike said at 1:44 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Cruz – no
    Amendola – yes
    Royal – no
    Douglas – no
    Johnson – no
    Wright – no
    Smith – yes
    Decker – yes
    Marshal – yes

    None of the “yes” guys on any deals longer than one year.

  219. 219 Sb2bowl said at 1:47 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I think Marshal still has some tread left on the tires, and he’s a guy that has overcome many obstacles in his life- could be a good mentor for our guys.

    Amendola is a system WR, probably fits in the slot in Philly, but that spot is taken by Matthews.

  220. 220 anon said at 2:31 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Decker is the real prize here, but i think Jets will lock him up – Marshall can teach DGB how to be a WR.

  221. 221 Donald Kalinowski said at 1:49 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    The Eagles had pretty interesting WR roster decisions to make back in 2009:

    DeSean Jackson
    Jeremy Maclin
    Jason Avant
    Kevin Curtis
    Reggie Brown
    Brandon Gibson
    Hank Baskett
    Danny Amendola

    They should have cut Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis.

  222. 222 Tumtum said at 2:05 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Cruz – sure, nothing more than 1 year flier
    Amendola – yes, keep money and term down… injury is a lock
    Royal – Sure, kick returner gadet receiver. Vet min?
    Harry Douglas – yes yes yes…buy low
    Steve Johnson – meh
    Jarius Wright – no
    Smith – yes, I would even go so far as to give him a contract with some years and value
    Decker – is he top 10 in the league? Top 20? I would be hard pressed to name 20 guys better. Yes, of course I want him.
    Brandon Marshall – Body is gone.

  223. 223 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:45 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    How about Eric Decker and Smith

  224. 224 GermanEagle said at 6:07 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’m actually surprised by the love for Decker. Personally I’d put DeSean above all of them. And it’s not even close.

  225. 225 Sb2bowl said at 7:14 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I’m with you

  226. 226 GermanEagle said at 3:50 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Shout I stay or should I go now – Xmas edition:

    Jason Peters
    Darren Sproles
    Ryan Mathews
    Connor Barwin
    Bennie Logan
    Nelson Agholor
    Nolan Carroll
    Mykal Kendricks
    Jason Kelce
    Chase Daniel

    Time’s yours!

  227. 227 Tumtum said at 4:01 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Jason Peters – stay
    Darren Sproles – stay
    Ryan Mathews – Go, because either the staff doesn’t like him or they know he can’t handle a full workload
    Connor Barwin – Go
    Bennie Logan – Go
    Nelson Agholor – Stupid not to keep him. If he isn’t good enough to warrant the 4th or 5th WR spot after camp, then he can go.
    Nolan Carroll – I feel like he got burned way less than Leo? We might need him..
    Mykal Kendricks – Stay
    Jason Kelce – Either way, don’t care anymore
    Chase Daniel – Stay of course.

    Marcus Smith doesn’t eve make the list???
    Stay I guess…

  228. 228 Sb2bowl said at 4:02 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Stay, but it’ll be hard for him not to Go
    Go, but he’s going to Stay

    I put this together earlier- have a look.

    Cap Number/Cap Hit/Savings
    Connor Barwin
    $8,350,000 $600,000 $7,750,000

    Mychal Kendricks
    $6,600,000 $4,800,000 $1,800,000

    Ryan Mathews
    $5,000,000 $1,000,000 $4,000,000

    Darren Sproles
    $4,000,000 $0 $4,000,000

    Leodis McKelvin
    $3,450,000 $250,000 $3,200,000

    Allen Barbre
    $1,950,000 $150,000 $1,800,000

    Ron Brooks
    $2,100,000 $500,000 $1,600,000

    Matt Tobin
    $900,000 $50,000 $850,000

    Taylor Hart
    $690,000 $0 $690,000

    Josh Andrews
    $615,000 $0 $615,000

    Looks like we would have just over $6 million in dead money, with $26 million saved.

  229. 229 Tumtum said at 4:31 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Leodis looks really easy to get out from under. I wouldn’t mind doing that. He is a former Bill though.

  230. 230 Dave said at 4:47 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Leodis and Nolan.

  231. 231 Sb2bowl said at 9:41 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I agree- not worth the money but Schwartz loves him. And if we let Nolan go, we need bodies

  232. 232 daveH said at 4:43 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    You have Agholar stay !!! Thats nuts..Insanity i tell ya…pure insane ness… ship him to CHIP or andy …

  233. 233 Dave said at 4:47 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    He signed a guaranteed contract and has almost a $5000000 dead money hit if he’s cut. Plus nobody is going to trade for him. Unfortunately he’ll be here next year.

  234. 234 daveH said at 9:08 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    TY for th explanation. . Has to be 5Mil .. 5 000,000 yep .. nice paycheck Nelson

  235. 235 Sb2bowl said at 7:13 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    It’s a money issue

  236. 236 PacificPurl said at 9:37 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Be sure to ship Jenkins and Couplin and Fipp and Stoutland too. And the science guy in the dungeon.

  237. 237 daveH said at 11:39 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Nigel Bradham staying? Joe Butler, rght? Decent LB rookie to look forward to. . .

  238. 238 A_T_G said at 6:48 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    So the way I read this, Kendricks is scheduled to receive 6.6M next year, the hit to cut him is 4.8M, bringing in a savings of 1.8M and one less linebacker.

    As critical of Kendricks as I have been, expecting to bring in a better player for 1.8M or less is optimistic. That leaves keeping him, paying more for less or paying a ton to upgrade.

    Yummy options right there.

  239. 239 Sb2bowl said at 7:12 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    It should probably say cap number/dead money, but yes- you are correct

  240. 240 Dave said at 4:48 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Howie has to try to trade Kendricks.

  241. 241 ACViking said at 5:12 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Scores of up-votes for correctly writing “to try to trade” . . . not “to try and trade.”

    (One means make an effort to trade. The other means both to make an effort and to trade — but not tied to each other.)

  242. 242 Dave said at 7:23 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I wish you were around today when my neighbor told me “your car needs washed”!

  243. 243 Insomniac said at 5:31 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    JP – stays
    Sproles – stays unless he wants out
    Mathews – goes. love the guy but I think he should retire.
    Barwin – goes. We have like 17 mil in backup DEs that don’t perform.
    Logan – stays at the right price. goes if he think he can get paid.
    Agholor – stays.
    Carroll – stays.
    Kendricks – goes.
    Kelce – goes.
    Daniel – goes.

  244. 244 GermanEagle said at 6:06 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Your last three are brave dude. But not unrealistic.

  245. 245 daveH said at 4:40 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I dropped two of the five presents my wife handed to me… Went to the in-laws and dropped the present that my mother-in-law handed to me so I’m riding the bench now

  246. 246 GermanEagle said at 5:05 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    So your wife is Mrs Agholor?!

  247. 247 Aaron said at 6:41 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    now thats the funniest thing Ive read today

  248. 248 GermanEagle said at 6:09 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    In other news, Google Home (Xmas gift from my wife) is pretty awesome.

  249. 249 Donald Kalinowski said at 7:16 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    People have been bitching about Ertz and his contract but Vinny Curry is the 4th highest player on the team. He probably gets cut if it wasn’t for the guarantees left on his deal.

    He’s the 5th highest paid 4-3 DE in the NFL. Crazy.

  250. 250 Dave said at 7:27 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    I don’t think anybody foresaw the fall off of Vinny’s play the way it happened this year, not the coach’s or the fans.

  251. 251 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:12 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    Vinny Curry wasn’t really a good player before his contract. It was mostly based on his potential with Jim Schwartz.

  252. 252 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:14 PM on December 26th, 2016:

    He has been getting free money, both he and Barwin. Its sad that you can argue that they are stealing snaps from MSII

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  254. 254 Ryan Rambo said at 11:16 PM on December 26th, 2016:


  255. 255 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:39 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    Did you expect the Lions to win? I’m not sure I see Dallas losing against a NFC team

  256. 256 Ryan Rambo said at 1:07 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    Did you expect Dallas to be 13-2 this season?? I see them losing to a team that has better options at cb. Johnson Bademosi got abused all night vs Dez. Packers can beat Dallas.

  257. 257 Seth S. Scott said at 11:46 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    Condolences as well Tommy. Happy Holidays and thanks for the post, as usual. It felt soooo good to see the Eagles win against the Giants. Felt like a real team win. This season has been invaluable for Wentz, and although we’d all like a couple more wins, Im honestly more excited about the future with this kid. He’s top notch and makes plays happen, EVEN with a lack of a solid starting RB and no lights-out WRs.

  258. 258 Seth S. Scott said at 11:49 AM on December 27th, 2016:

    Also, cant stop hearing about Prescott for obv reasons. But I’d be interested to look at stats based on Rookies who had “easier” goes at it their first year and then how their play fared in years to come vs. guys being on “worse” teams with less talent, worse OLs, etc? Not sure if there is anything there but just curious because there is definitely something about learning how to lose and not let it destroy your confidence that I think is invaluable for Wentz and the team this year looking toward the future. If the Cowboys go 14-2, make the superbowl and then get destroyed by the Patriots, as good as they are (and will be over the next couple years) I find it hard to believe they will go 14-2 next year.