Draft Day is Here
Posted: April 27th, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 175 Comments »I am working on my long draft post.
For now, get excited. The Eagles are going to add a future HOF player tonight. What about Danny Watkins and Marcus Smith you say? Watkins will be in a firefighters HOF in whatever Canadian city he calls home these days. Smith has a legit shot for the Louisville HOF.
See?
I think the Eagles are in position to get a good player. Lots of talk about 2 QBs going in the Top 13. That would be helpful. Doesn’t matter who takes them, it pushes a player down to the Eagles. Lots of talk about Hasson Reddick going Top 10. That would also be good. He doesn’t make sense for the Eagles, but could push down someone who does make sense.
Lots of buzz that the Browns could take QB Mitch Trubisky 1st overall. I don’t buy that. I think they are trying to get someone to trade up. Float the rumor and see what happens. I feel confident the pick will be DE Myles Garrett. I hope I’m dead wrong and Trubisky does go first. That could lead to a run on QBs and we might see 3 go before the Eagles pick.
So … the Browns passed on taking Carson Wentz at No. 2 last year, but they might take Mitchell Trubisky at 1 this year? pic.twitter.com/D65oTfBrFt
— Dave Zangaro (@DZangaroCSN) April 27, 2017
I’m still hoping the team explores moving back. I would love to add a 3rd round pick. This draft is so deep and there are so many prospects I have interest in. Thank god the Eagles have 8 picks for now. If they only had a few picks like last year, I’d be going nuts.
No real update on the Gareon Conley situation. We’re all in wait and see mode on this guy. I don’t think he’s going in the 1st round, but after that, your guess is as good as mine. Tremendous player. And might be the victim of false allegations. But do you take that risk? If so, how early. I am guessing 3rd round, but you can bet NFL teams are digging into this situation as aggressively as they can. Nobody wants to pass on Conley if they think he’s truly innocent.
At least 24 teams personally have called OSU's Gareon Conley over the past 48 hours, per source. He has proclaimed his innocence to all.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 27, 2017
Let’s just hope we don’t have any breaking news today about players doing something dumb, getting accused of something serious or getting arrested. Let this be a good day for everyone (except Dallas).
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Finally…
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RE: Connely –> ESPN radio said this morning that the footage from the elevator security camera is not consistent with the accuser’s story. Does that change the likelihood that the Eagles take him?
In a weird way I’d love to see the Eagles take both Mixon and Conley, just for the entertainment value of listening to every sports host in the country having their heads explode. We’d be like the Al Davis Raiders (or the Cowpukes, yuk).
Of course, if we take them they’ll turn out to be irredeemable jerks.
egads. I keep typing my opinion and deleting it. My mind is changing faster than a HS girl on prom night. I keep coming back to this — I want the Eagles to pick Conley. Prior to the incident, he was a top 5 pick. Everybody here was salivating about him but knew he was out of reach. Now, he might be in reach. I can’t comment on whether is he guilty or not. I can’t comment on his character. I can only comment on his play. You want to win games, you need someone to handle the NFC WR’s. Can other CB’s do that? sure, I guess – but Conley was ranked so high for a reason…
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That would be the only scenario I want to drop back. Drop back and grab select him. Otherwise – I really don’t know who I’d prefer.
Remember though, if you cover those WRs – and they are indeed very good so even with a very good or great corner, DGB, Brandon Marshall, Dez, etc.. etc… – they will catch some balls. And Conley has some legit tackling/toughness questions.
Just a reminder that he’s not a perfect CB.
I too would be fine with taking him, and I think he’d be a very good CB for us, but remember, he’s got flaws on the field too.
Plus I kinda want Davis or Harris over him anyway.
DBG?
I think he got his “three letter nickname WR’s” mixed up and initially meant to type OBJ (or ODB).
Ha, meant Odell… fixed now…
I can be on board with that…
I really don’t think he was top 5 prior to the incident. Maybe top 10, probably top 20. It really sucks for him if he’s truly innocent, but if there is some clear cut evidence, it’s possible he won’t drop too far.
I always try to get perspective before the draft. Look at a bunch of first rounds in the past. It’s so exciting to see these players as special difference makers, but that’s only the best possible version of these players. So remember, when Mayock is talking these guys up to sound amazing (their tape really stand out from the 500 other prospects he watched), pay attention to his next line “you know who he reminds me of, a Reggie Bush type, not quite as great of a prospect, but that type of player” —oh GOD help us.
These people are selling a show, and the enthusiasm is contagious, just remember that we’re looking at hopeful starters, not hall of famers (there might be some in here but who knows where), and we’ll all survive these 3 days.
I’m hoping we pick up a pair of starters for this year, or at least 1 starter and a couple of role-players. Maybe 4 or so starters in the long run. Everything else is gravy.
Just wait until we pick Charles Harris. #HoFLock
What could go wrong with picking a defensive end named Harris?
Well, there are almost certainly hall of famers in this draft, and certainly multiple All-Pros. Be nice to pick up at least one.
sure, most won’t though, and it’s all luck.
Trade back and take Conley, Jones, mixon in second and third. Any other character/injury questionable player.
Then send in the eagles cheerleaders at half time to hold the lead.
http://imgur.com/gallery/KKMe6
Is it too late for her to enter the draft, the Browns would like to know. (second gif to see where she is throwing to)
Udfa, eagles need a 3qb
f-that, I’m drafting her. She can be my number 2
Safe for work?
yes
I’m…………………….. in…………………….. loooooooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeee………..
lol @ “she just gave a nosebleed to somebody in the nosebleeds”
More picks are better but their history of trading up (good) trading back (bad) not sure I see that happening unless their “guys” are all gone. I do think Kyle Fuller is still in play for a draft day or post draft day acquisition. They loved him back in the day.
That would be awesome.
If he’s on the board at #14 (Conley) I’d seriously consider taking him. This sounds like a scorned woman trying to ruin a mans life with a smear campaign.
hopefully we don’t even have to take him at 14. Be great if we could get him in the 2nd, even if we have to trade Up to get him.
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id go ape shit Crazy in celebration if the Eagles come out of the draft with Conley and Sidney Jones without spending a 1st round pick on either
“Let’s just hope we don’t have any breaking news today about players
doing something dumb, getting accused of something serious or getting
arrested. Let this be a good day for everyone (except Dallas, NYG, and Washington).”
Fixed that last part for you Mr. Lawlor. No thanks needed.
“Nobody wants to pass on Conley if they think he’s truly innocent.”
I’m sure you meant, “Nobody wants to pass on Conley if they think he’s not going to serve any jail time.”
BB:
The wild card is Roger Goodell.
Conley could win a civil case against his accuser . . .
And Goodell could still suspend him for bad judgment abt women.
Why? ‘Cause the federal court of appeals in NY ruled that Goodell’s authority is unreviewable — effectively, nearly unbounded — in the Brady deflategate case.
You just never know with Goodell.
You’re right, of course. But …
The optics of such a move would be really bad look for the NFL, I think. “Reinforcing stereotypes of black men as predators who can’t be trusted to behave themselves around [white] women…” If I were advising Goodell, I sure as heck would let him know that at least some of the headlines would reflect that sentiment.
If Conley is never charged, Goodell’s smartest move is to ignore it completely. If he is charged, you follow established precedent. If he wins a civil case against his accuser (as you have stated, stupid and highly unlikely), you ignore it completely – your history of dealing with violence against women leaves you no room to be seen as celebrating such an outcome. If he is convicted, you don’t have to really do or say anything (as a young black male convicted of raping a white woman, he’s not getting a Stanford Swimming sentence). I don’t know that there is a winning tactic for the NFL to address it.
Agree 100%. Excellent work.
Not something that should happen.
But if it did . . . highlights many, many problems with Goodell and the CBA.
Just touched down in London Town before meeting my ex colleagues at a German beer festival.
English + German beer = messy
Consequently there’s a pretty high chance that I will be absolutely hammered by the time the Eagles are on the clock.
Worst (and actually best) case I won’t remember that the Eagles will have picked Cook in the first round.
Cheers,
GE
Cheers. Drink a Fransiskaner for me (or 100)!
I’m sitting at a cafe in Madrid already tipsy on my way to full bowl drunk lol
My ideal situation for tonight/this weekend:
1. Corey Davis
2. Gareon Conley
*Trade JMatt and his no sideline awareness along with a 5th for a 3rd
3a. Sidney Jones (He won’t be there at 99)
3b. Chris Godwin
4a. Kareem Hunt
Trade Kendricks, Kelce for anything (still want Kyle Fuller)
The rest… I don’t care (DL, OL, TE, LB, S) … I just came.
If that happens I’ll cream my pants. 6 times….!
Eagles need a quality pass rushing DE.
Graham (5 sacks) and Curry (2.5) are both 29. Long is 32 y.o.
Im aware. But this is my dream, so get out… come back Megan!
Understand better now.
Further explained:
Megan= Corey
Conley= not invited to the event
Sidney= Megan’s fantastic feet
Chris= Her wonderfully soft hands
Kareem= Her will to score with me 18 times a year
AND Trading Kelce, Kendricks= Tommy’s love for Megan and jealousy of me…
Of course Conley isn’t going to go “Ya I raped the girl” I think they need to get the police report and any details from people who aren’t directly involved or his college teammate.
I will say that it doesn’t look good for the accuser. She was following him around all night at the bar (and did not meet him in the elevator). Does that mean she consented… absolutely not. But the fact that she already lied and 4 other people are witnesses to Conley’s story does not bode well for her in the court of law.
I read that there is one witness that is opposite of others. That seems to be skipped in the reports defending him though. Still think its too late in the process and he will drop because of it. I tend to agree though that its leaning his way, just not soon enough to clear him completely
source?
no source, I heard it early on and then again a day or two ago on the radio so take that for what its worth. Just that after I heard it a 2nd time recently I thought it might be true but I honestly have no clue. I still think it may be too late in the process to clear him, esp if there was a ra.. kit taken etc
At least 2 of the “witnesses” corroborating Conley’s story are his 2 friends in the hotel room with him.
You know . . . the other 2 guys, who with Conley and the alleged victim, would form the “foursome” to which, she reportedly told the police, Conley invited her.
Just sayin’.
I prefer the term “collaboration” rather than foursome. Sounds more dignified.
A witness that is backing up her rape claim?
None of us know what happened. Have to trust the authorities… It is a shady situation. And as AC says, it could be some sort of shock which messes up her story. I just agreed it doesn’t look good for her. Unfortunately she went to the hotel room with his 4 friends and none of her own friends. Not saying she deserved to be raped (so please don’t start with that.) It was a very poor decision on Conley’s part to be even engaging in such shady behavior, rape aside. And it was just as poor decision of her to go up to that room after following him around all night IF she wasn’t trying to get some. What happened next, I’m not even qualified to guess.
ya agree totally esp on the front that his story more or less seems to be more legit. That being said, I think he falls anyway just for being around that this late in the game
Also looks like she gets jealous and starts pushing herself on to him when he puts his arm around another girl. If that was her jealousy showing already at that point of the night im sure the Conley camp will try to correlate that with their allegations about an obviously jealous, Jilted woman trying to spite him after the fact.
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It doesn’t look good for her, but videos like that can be misleading so realistically we probably can’t draw any real conclusion regarding what happened either way based on that video. It certainly hurts her that she already blatantly lied to the police
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I don’t know what happened, so I’ll defer to the authorities charged with investigating this. Either way, I think someone needs to be punished, either he raped her and he should be in jail or she is maliciously lying trying to ruin this kids life with her calculated timing, in which case she needs to be held accountable.
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Someone is behaving in a disgusting manner and needs to be punished, I don’t think this should end with “no harm, no foul both parties walk away in the end”. clearly either Conley or his accuser did something very wrong and one of the two needs to be held accountable
If the alleged victim was in fact raped, what level of exactitude — when she may be suffering some level of shock — is fair to require when she recounts the events?
But go ahead and rush to judgment about the alleged victim.
https://twitter.com/Astonia67/status/857621013844164608
Is this with trade compensation including a 2nd rounder next year?
Sorry it cut’s off unless you click on it. I took Humphrey at 14. This was what I would do if the phone broke and I couldn’t trade.
AHA, well that certainly changes things.
1. It’s hard to caveat all the trades on the phone.
2. It’s kind of cheating. This is my last and final.
3. I would still personally trade back.
Not gonna lie, as a Dane I would love Andreas Knappe as a UDFA. He seems like an awesome dude, is never gonna get in trouble and gonna bust his ass on and off the field to succeed in the NFL, very determined guy.
Also, 6’8, 325 and the way he moves, can’t teach that.
Knappe is my dude. Big fan. If he wasn’t 26 I’d have him as draftable
D3, solid plan. Like Taylor, but really love Chris Godwin as our WR of future. With this haul, will Elder start on the outside with Mills in the slot or vice-versa?
I like Godwin as well but the tape not matching the testing scares me. I think you let them battle it out for outside/slot, but I think they could switch depending on the matchup. Elder can carry 9 routes so you play him on speedsters and Mills you play on bigger guys.
I think it’s possible that they get at least a late round/UDFA DT after Beau’s injury. But I won’t even pretend that I have any idea who that could be.
Yea, I initially had Chris Wormley at 43 and everybody pushed down a pick. Forgot I switched it when I did UDFAs.
Just pretend I have Matt Godin DT Michigan on the UDFA list
NICE, Love Taylor, Elder, Gallman, Woods and Lee..
I’m up for Ifaedi Odenigbo to make the cut just to have another unpronounceable name on the roster.
If-Eddy Odin-E-Bo
Sure. Easy. But stick him in a list with Big V and Destiny and rattle them off five times quickly.
I was always disappointed the Eagles never drafted Manu Tuaisosoapo just for the fun of the name.
https://twitter.com/Astonia67/status/857621723298115585
Classic.
I agree with you in terms of expectations. How would you feel about it? I’m sorry but I will be severely disappointed if we come out of a historically great CB draft with just those two.
Fuck Joe Mixon and the rest is ok. Griffin and Douglas are both guys that you like if they are the second CB we take. That’s the point of the team acting like they are super totally ok (inside they are screaming) with it. I think they really have to take one at 14 or 43 because they are gonna get cleaned out by 99.
Totally agree with you. I think this draft is going to be really disappointing. One where we have more holes than we can realistically address but we’re not going to really addressing holes sufficiently since taking douglas and griffin doesn’t solve the cb problem in my view.
Griffin in particular has high end potential, though. Seahawk copycats will almost certainly push him up.
I don’t follow anybody on twitter…If I was to start, you’d be first…lol. Good stuff…
You’d be disappointed in the end
https://twitter.com/Astonia67/status/676240562962436096
jlmao … could have 3rd on the list…maybe you’re underachieving :)…
Care to share your thoughts on Shaquill Griffin?
There’s only 1 Draftbreakdown cutup and CBs aren’t my forte.
But I talked to a guy who has watched more of him than that and was told “Doesn’t quite play up to testing numbers because he’s a little slow in processing and his overall understanding. Footwork and technique need work. High character kid. Overall a solid guy who will stick on a team due to his athletic ability and has pretty decent upside”
Scratch Moses off that thin tackle list you made for next year.
Joel kline listed 5 guys falling:
Jonathon Allen falling to the late teens because he has no cartilage in his shoulder. Sounds like a “Sharif Floyd type draft fall” is in his future
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Hooker falling into the teens because of a hip surgery that has people questioning how much he can contribute as a rookie
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He has Dalvin Cook falling which contradicts all the recent traction he has been getting as The potential #14 pick in the eyes of some prominent media members
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Gareon Conley, “tho that situation is beginning to clear up”
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5 names he hears everyone loves today “likely to be top 10 picks Who he doesn’t see falling past 12:
Solomon Hill
Hasaan Reddeck
Jamal Adams
McCaffrey
Fournette
Solomon Hill is a 26 year old Small Forward. He will not be getting drafted top 12
Coach –
The commenter admitted elsewhere he’s already drunk.
“Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”
He’s also admitted he doesn’t know fuck all about the class but alas, the opinions, he has them
HeEHaW!!!
what do you think of Reddick as a fit? I think Jags surprise and take Watson just like they smoke screened with Bortles. They need a QB to push Bortles out
Asking the wrong person, I literally have never even watched a highlight video of his. Im not exaggerating when I say that at the end of the draft I’ll be lucky if im familiar with 3 names that the Eagles drafted.
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But before I die Id like to see what a round 1 Linebacker actually looks like In Midnight Green, so I think Im just going to be pro rd 1 linebacker every single year until the Eagles draft one. Whether they need a LB or not..
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I hear nothing but people raving about the kid from Temple, but im in no position to speak on him. I heard Reuban Foster described as a “Fire Breathing Dragon on the football field Who hits everything that moves” which doesn’t sound bad either
Ive been on the Foster wagon from the start and still am, just dont think it will happen. Lot of the same reasons, I just really want a stud lb on this team, been forever. Hes seems like a cant miss imo. I have a sinking feeling we will regret not taking him ala Earl Thomas regret. Only if our pick falls flat though, otherwise it wont matter as much of course
He seems like a very likely to miss option to me. Bad shoulder, penalty machine, poor discipline (on the feild I mean), product of bama system and great players around him. Many major red flags. Chronic shoulder issues are from poor tackling form…
I heard Shefter say that he was with the 49ers at the combine the moment news broke about him getting kicked out, and he said the Niners claimed that they were considering him with the #2 based on on field ability alone.
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Don’t know if Kendricks will still be an Eagle by the end of the draft
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Didn’t get to see how Joe Walker was looking before his injury and he has to prove he can put the Knee issue behind him.
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Big Nigel Bradham fan, but not sure how much longer he will be in Philly
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Think we have to take a LB at some poïnt this weekend
What happens to the the Iggles Blitz commentariat when we DON’T draft Corn Elder? We mock him more than Trump mocks disabled reporters.
We fly to Miami, kidnap him, engage in a standoff and force the league to assign him to the Eagles.
Everyone is so corny in here.
Everyone is so horny for corny in here.
That joke will get old real quick.
I’m donning my shoulderpads and facing then going apeshit.
I want Derek rivers. Dude is gonna be a stud
Most athletic edge in the draft sans myles
What’s with all the recent Mike Williams to the Eagles talk?
Stupidity. Laziness…. not worth paying attention to.
Whatever we do, it “was our plan all along.”
100% chance of high-fives.
That nerd will high five anyone who he pays to high-five him.
Sounds about right, if we decided to go WR that high, I’d prefer it to be someone who stylistically differs from what we already have at WR. We need a route running technician more than another jump ball WR
Agreed, would much rather Corey Davis if available..hell I even prefer OJ Howard over Mike Williams
Agreed on Davis, not a fan of Howard. If we don’t land Davis in Round 1, there are a couple of late draft guys that intrigue me.
Agree it’s preferable because I would rather have Davis but Alshon is injury prone so there’s no guarantee he’s going to be here after this year and he’s also a positive test away from a 10 game suspension.
Alshon’s best year statistically was playing alongside Brandon Marshall. I realize Williams isn’t quite Marshall but it can work.
I hear you, but to play Devils advocate we have invested a lot in young WRs, and while they have mostly dissapointed us up Til now, it’s a position that can take some time transitioning to the pro game. I’d be crazy to have confidence in Nelson Agholar or DGB right now, but we paid for Alshon and Torrey and I’d make the most out of that and use them as an opportunity to spend another year evaluating the growth rate of our yoûng WR investments before we decide to give up on any of them and invest more premium draft picks into the position.
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We can’t be confident in Nelson or DGB, but we don’t have to be at least in the short term while we have Carson throwing to Alshon, Torrey, Ertz, Jordan and SPROLES this year. We don’t have to be confidemt in Nelson or DGB but we can also respect that there were some legit factors working against them last year that could have contributed to them showing what they were really capable of. For example:
DGB is a young raw talent, no one would ever confuse him for a polished young WR, and we know how complicated the west coast offense can be so while I wouldn’t bet a nickel on DGB having a breakout season, I think we have to give him an offseason to get comfortable in this new offense before we give up on him considering he was traded to the Eagles at the end of The offseason which would be challenging for a veteran WR łet alone a raw 2nd year WR who was really high upside “Project”
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I’d be insane to have confidence in Agholar since we just watched him have zero confidence in himself for an entire NFL season. But I do think he has the physical tools to become a successful WR if he can overcome the mental quicksand he was stuck in last year.
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Im willing to give any young WR we invest a high pick in a chance to play with the same QB, in the same offense, under the same coach for two seasons in a row before I completely give up on him. I imagine it wasn’t very easy going from the chip kelly offense to all the intracacies that come with the west coast offense
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I won’t complain if the Eagles get a stud WR in the draft, I’ll take elite talent at any position I can get at this stage of our team building, but I think we are in a good position (at least short term) when it comes to the WR position and I’d wait Til next year before investing a pick in the first 3 rounds on another WR. Ultimately, if they hit on their draft picks I won’t care what position they happen to play since we are at least two good draftd away from really being ready to contend
Man, I hate to agree with Gian Giggles… but I agree with Gian Giggles.
I’d wait until next year before investing another top pick on WR. We’ve got a couple of potential maybes to give a little more time to at WR, and big immediate holes elsewhere. Go RB then CB then DE.
agree but I also get the other side of that per the 1 yr on Alshon, last year of JMatt and who knows with Smith and the rest. I say CB, RB then rest
We don’t retain Alshon because of injury or a suspension, we’re back to square one and the top priority is surrounding Wentz with what he needs to succeed as QB.
As you say it takes time at WR so that’s why taking a WR when you’re in position to get a top WR prospect is a good idea to me.
The draft is more for procuring talent for the future. Davis and Williams are more talented than anyone but Alshon.
you feel confident in the Eagles drafting a WR in the first 3 rounds of this draft? Personally, it would surprise me.
But Ultimately we all have different ideal scenarios for what positions the Eagles should address early, but in the end that goes out the window if the player they draft ends up being a stud. Not many people were happy when the Eagles drafted Linebacker jordan Hicks in round 3, and two years later he is on his way to becoming one of the most beloved Eagles
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If we can nail two quality drafts in a row. The positions will all work themselves out in the end
Miller latest mock has him going to us. His final mock based off what he hears etc
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ece52e8a43b53794e5605843c70ed9fef23f4c925a2beca323d397011b66459e.jpg
love it.
It’s really hasn’t sunk in for me how bad it would have sucked to not have a 1st round pick this year for the home crowd to boo.
A successful draft requires some luck (residue of planning, etc).
Hopefully, all that luck wasn’t used up on the Bridgewater-Bradford events that led to the Eagles getting a 1st Rd pick.
We should still have some left over after Danny Watkins, Marcus Smith, and Nelson Agholor.
Nope, that’s the beginning of the wave; we got this!
Curious too see what the Redskins do now that they got rid of the GM that actually had steered them in the right direction. Washington used up all its franchise Tags on Cousins the last two years. He can walk after the year and they wouldn’t be able to stop him, so will we see washington look for a QB in the top 100? or are they planning to backüp the Brinks truck to Cousins and hope he doesn’t get fed up with the franchise deciding to leave for greener pastures now that his bank account is already looking pretty sweet after two years of QB franchise Tag Money?
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Cowboys vs Eagles are engaged in an arms race to see who can fix their cornerback defficiencies. I’m hoping that they Fail to replace the loss of Doug Free and Ronald Leary lessoning their OL depth for a unit that has been relitively lucky When it comes to OL health. That injury bug typically ends up biting you sooner or later
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Hopefully the Giants continue to fail miserably at upgrading their OL
ya, in the mocks I keep seeing the Skins get a good player. This draft is just too deep for me to hope all the other NFC east teams miss but we can dream.
preference for me:
Foster, Conley (oof both of those in a row), Humphrey, Reddick, Davis, Williams
Probable picks:
D line guy (pick one), Davis, Humphrey, Williams, Ross
I think if they go WR at 14, they have to go corner in 2nd. I really was hoping to get a Mixon/Kamara with that 2nd pick. Interesting to see how it plays out. I could really see a D line guy first, then that leaves open other possibilities I guess in 2nd but they cant ignore CB too long. Kareem Hunt could come into play later if they hold off on rb
I could see DE in round 2. The only combo that seems unlikely is offense at both 14 and 43. Hunt could be gone by 99, but they certainly could hold off on RB and see who it is that drops.
I’m hoping the Eagles can suck one of the OL needy teams into a trade. Seattle, Denver and Baltimore have 4 or more picks in the first 3
rounds of this draft and may be willing to trade up for a big need.
Baltimore’s not a big move back…Giants, Packers, Bucs, Dolphins – not so many picks, but might be desperate. OL will be scarce: Cam Robinson,
Garrett Bolles, Forrest Lamp and Ryan Ramcyk are the only worthy OL’s in round 1 and if we can convince someone to start a run on them at #14, then that’s a strategic win.
Or a LB team who wants a dropping Reuben Foster?
This is all
contingent on who is left at #14 of course…but if it’s no one amazing
I’d be trying the teams who want linemen first.
For anyone interested . . .
Here’s a link to Packers reporter Bob McGinn’s 2017 draft report.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2017/04/22/mcginns-2017-nfl-draft-rankings-and-analysis/100781778/
Loaded with scouts’ comments about top players at each position.
I think you only get 10 articles free so be careful what you click on if you want all of them.
Anyone got a damaging weed smoking video on Solomon Thomas or Christian McCaffrey we can post online an hour before the draft?
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Sounds like teams dont think jonathon Allen’s career will last past 4 or 5 years.
Skins made Morgan Moses The 2nd highest paid RT in the League. 5year deal
Draft, develop, sign long term. Smart on their part.
I can’t hate on that, their run game has been kicking our ass the last couple of years, and with Zeke and the cowboy line also in the division I would like to see us build one of the baddest front 7’s in the game especially since we have some really nice pieces in place already, just need to find a 10 plus sack edge terror and one more bad ass LB. Also need to find someone late in the draft who can replace Beau as our #3 DT while playing on a dirt cheap salary for the next 4 years. A 6th round DT for the next 4 years and Undrafted destiny Could be cheap enough rotation contributors to keep Jernigan and Cox together past this season.
For those of you cretins in the area looking to soak in the atmosphere of the best NFL draft ever and looking for a drinking partners, I’m sitting at Kite & Key. Will be dawning my Brandon Graham jersey shortly. Cheers, Eagles Nation.
Let me know if you will be down there for day 3
Wasn’t planning on it but I could be
I was hoping to be home in time to make it to day two, but that’s looking unlikely. Im going to have to settle for day 3, better than nothing
If I was around, I’d buy a fellow cretin his favorite beer. Cheers. Go Birds!
What do people familiar with Dalvin Cook think about him comparing himself to Jamaal Charles? Is that a valid stylistic comparison?
Thicker build with more breakway speed for Cook in my opinion. (but throw in fumble issues and shoulder concerns…)
Turnovers change games in the NFL. I don’t want a RB with fumble issues.
Yeah I was aware of his fumble issues but im asking about how he compares athletically to CHarles because of Dalvin’s poor combine showing
breakaway speed, no way, Jamaal was like a track athlete. He had one of the fastest accelerations. I remember reading his times would have beat Carl Lewis’ early olympic times, he was that fast. I dont know though, maybe Cook is really fast also lol. I agree the multiple concerns scare me, esp fumbles. He had 4 in one game I think at some point
That’s why I was asking, Wasnt his combine comperable to Lane Johnson’s? I found the comparison odd considering Charles was such a talented athletic burner. Maybe he was talking about being a well rounded runner who could do damage in the passing game like Charles?
ya but in the highlights Cook pulls away on some runs, he has breakaway speed. i think Chalres was just exceptional there. Im not sure about the rest of cooks game, havent looked much at him
Makes sense, wouldnt be the first guy who’s game speed was better than how he tested. As for his fumbling issue, does the team that drafts him have to change the way he holds the ball, like the giants had To do to Eventually solve Tiki Barbers fumble problems?
Cook is best when he gets out in space like Charles. Cook isn’t quite Charles but he’s explosive and his acceleration is what separates him from 95% of the backs. He has pretty goodThis ESPN sports science video of him vs. Kamara compares him to Devonta Freeman (Cook went to the same school). This was
interesting contrast to Cook’s combine which I personally don’t worry about much. He’s not agile like a McCaffrey or Kamara but his legs are thicker than them.
Cook is best when he gets out in space like Charles. Cook isn’t quite Charles but he’s explosive and his acceleration is what separates him from 95% of the backs. He has pretty good vision too.This ESPN sports science video of him vs. Kamara compares him to Devonta Freeman (he and Cook went to the same high school).
https://youtu.be/Rqh5y9awuSA
Appreciate the intell. any mid round RBs comparable to Jordon Howard?
Samaje Perine is a very powerful back and probably late 3rd to 4th round.
I’ll check him out. Thanks
Charles was much faster IMO.
So Broncos looking to move up and common belief is it would be for Oline. Got to think we’re a good match there since earliest realistic team picking oline would be Indy right behind us. 14 and our 5th for 20, and their 2 3rds. Grab Conley at 20, burst open champagne
ooh, interesting. Assumed they could wait for O line and get 1 of those 3 but if there is one they want more than others this could def be valid. That or if McCaffrey falls near us but doubt they could plan ahead for that but maybe inquire. Denver loves McC
Rumors of teams trading up for McCaffery
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Please do.
If we took Twitter seriously the start of the draft could look like
1. Browns – Mitch Trubisky
2. Niners – Myles Garrett
3. Bears – Solomon Thomas
4. Jaguars – Deshaun Watson
5. Titans – Marshon Lattimore
Not unreasonable.
I’m being told that like I predicted earlier, no chance McCaffrey makes it to the Eagles. There is lots of internal debate over Mike Williams, they think he will be available and are split over whether to take him or not. Corey Davis gets picked before Mike Williams if a team before ARI goes WR, but Mike Williams is more of a Bruce Arians fit than Corey Davis is.
Ya true per Davis but even with Ari I think hes first off board. I think Fournette drops if Jags take QB, that will be interesting.
I’d love to see Fournette drop to 14
There are some recent reports saying all the McCaffrey top 10 talk is a bogus smoke screen and that he is more likely to go in the teens. But who knows what’s true, I doubt teams who really want McCaffrey are being open and truthful with the media
That’s so cool that the Eagles share information with you.
Who has the better agent, Mitch Trubisky or Christin McCaffery? Both guys getting lots of positive press and draft hype.
CM doesn’t even need an agent, he hasn’t done private workouts, he doesn’t need to. What a stud.
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Some rumors may not be true
Some may be true.
Let’s start some.
Rumors the Chiefs will spend their first round pick on a 43 year old Canadian tow truck driver who took online classes at Auburn.
Source?
Unnamed agent.
That’s not what he told me, but he wasn’t sure.
Tom Brady will be attending round 1 on the parkway (albeit hidden kneeling inside the podium, facing away from the crowd). A yet unreported fine print part of the deflategate punishment.
Very Mike Mayock-esque of you.
Uh…thank you?
Sources say the Eagles will either trade up, stay pat, or look to move back in the first round, depending on the offers they receive.
Sources add that Howie Roseman is a very handsome and trustworthy man.
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/857638772141424642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bleedinggreennation.com%2F2017%2F4%2F27%2F15458214%2Fnfl-draft-rumors-gareon-conley-first-round-ohio-state-philadelphia-rape-sexual-assault-2017-corner
https://twitter.com/TheRealDGunnCSN/status/857675804372852737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bleedinggreennation.com%2F2017%2F4%2F27%2F15458214%2Fnfl-draft-rumors-gareon-conley-first-round-ohio-state-philadelphia-rape-sexual-assault-2017-corner
I’m not not the biggest fan of Conley.. I like CBs who can tackle.
Would be happy with any of Fournette, McCaffrey, Davis, Williams, Howard, Robinson, Barnett, Allen, Foster, Lattimore. That’s 10 players – with Garrett, the QBs, and guys at non-need positions like Adams and Hooker projected to go high, at least a couple of those guys should be on the board.
Of course there are reports now of dallas being interested in Conley. That’s a rumor I have to believe. Cowboys are desperate for corners and they never met a red flag they didn’t turn into an opportunity to get their scumbag hands on a talent they should have had no shot of getting.
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at this pace we will be facing a Zeke/Joe Mixon Thunder/lightning tandem next year. Cowboys should just thumb their nose at everyone and see if they can spend every single draft pick this year on a kid with giant red flags. Why not? Jerry has no shame, he does whatever he wants, capitalizes on scumbag talent other teams can’t touch and as long as they play well and stop short at killing someone, he continues to use them against the rest of the league
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Same usual suspects take advantage of all the kids who fall because of charachter: andy Reid, Jerry Jones, Pete Carroll, Dan Snyder and of course Bill Bellichek would sell his mothers ass to win