4th Round – Eagles Add WR and RB

Posted: April 29th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 276 Comments »

The picks are in.

118- WR Mack Hollins – UNC – 6-4, 221

132 – RB Donnel Pumphrey – SDSU – 5-9, 176

Let’s start with Hollins.

Good WR, great STer. Some of you hear that and focus on STs. Do you spend a 4th to get someone who can cover kicks? Hollins does a great job of that and will make Dave Fipp a very happy man. But don’t overlook him as a receiver.

Hollins has a big body and long arms (33 inches). He ran 4.53 at the Combine. That isn’t great speed, but he is a terrific downfield receiver. He uses his long gait to eat up ground and get by CBs. He averaged 21 yards per catch for his career. Hollins wasn’t a volume receiver, only catching 81 career passes. He did miss half of his Senior year and that cost him about 20 grabs. He was an impact receiver. He had 20 TD catches.

I don’t see Hollins as a starter, but he can be a very good role player because of his ability to stretch the field and offer impact in the Red Zone. He’s a big guy with good hands and he will go up and get the ball.

The Eagles needed a player like Hollins. He helps on offense because the teams wants to throw the ball downfield and that’s his specialty. He also helps because the teams needs WRs to play on STs. Nelson Agholor might try some of that this year. DGB is in big trouble with this pick. He better play so well the Eagles have to keep him in the mix.

Hollins also fits what the team wants in terms of intangibles. This is exactly the kind of player Joe Douglas wants.

***

Mixed feelings on this pick.

Pumphrey had an amazing season for the Aztecs. He ran for 2,133 yards and averaged 6.1 yards per carry. That is insane production, whether mid-level competition or not. His size is a serious issue for me. He is only 176 pounds. He did 5 reps on the bench at the Combine. That went up to 8 at his Pro Day, but that’s not good either. He has short arms and small hands.

The talk is that Pumphrey will replace Darren Sproles. I think that is a major projection. Sproles was an outstanding returner in college. Pumphrey returned 5 KOs and no punts. He has to learn how to do that in the NFL.

Pumphrey was very durable in college. He got a ton of carries and didn’t get hurt. That does tell you this kid is tough and does play bigger than his size. The Eagles wanted playmakers on offense. Pumphrey does have the potential to deliver some big plays. He has 4.48 speed, runs well and can catch.

I’ll have to trust Joe Douglas, Doug Pederson, Duce Staley and Dave Fipp on this one.

The Eagles need to add another RB, whether in the draft or as a primary UDFA. It is also possible they could add a veteran free agent after the draft.

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276 Comments on “4th Round – Eagles Add WR and RB”

  1. 1 xmbk said at 1:45 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    How the hell do you /improve/ to 8 reps?

  2. 2 Meh said at 1:53 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    By doing 3 more than 5?

  3. 3 HawaiianEagle said at 1:58 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    60% better

  4. 4 xmbk said at 2:05 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    #math

  5. 5 SteveH said at 2:03 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    When you weigh 175 I imagine 8 reps isn’t an egregiously low total.

  6. 6 xmbk said at 1:46 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    So, what are the mixed feelings? Cursing vs crying?

  7. 7 Fufina said at 1:49 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I like the Pumphrey pick because its fun and will give me pleasure to root for the kid. If you want to find a kid who can survive as an NFL RB/slot at 175lbs it will be Pumphrey… but he could easily just get destroyed at the NFL level due to his size. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

  8. 8 kajomo said at 2:00 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I judge picks in how much they can help the eagles, not how fun they are to root for.

    I think he can make plays for us, but we lack an every down back. Maybe they are higher on Smallwood than we are

  9. 9 ChoTime said at 4:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImNf2KQ9xRw

  10. 10 Bob Brewer said at 1:48 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Part of the reason I’m not a fan of the Eagles ever trading back to get more picks is that I don’t believe they’re good enough in the later rounds to know what to pick. At least early there are players who are more likely to succeed.

  11. 11 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:09 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    What intell do you have to judge how the Joe Douglas/Andy W/Roseman front office typically does in the later rounds?

  12. 12 Dude said at 2:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Marcus Smith, Danny Watkins, Nelson Agholor, Daniel Te’o Nessheim, Jaquan Jarrett, Reggie Brown, Trevor Laws, Curtis Marsh, and Tony Hunt would like to have a word with you.

  13. 13 phillychuck said at 1:49 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Watching Pumphrey’s highlights on youtube makes me a lot happier about his size. Dude just doesn’t get hit. Lightning change of direction; easily outruns CBs in the open field. He ran for 281 yds v Cal, and 151 v. Alabama this year (alright, it was South Alabama…). 🙂

  14. 14 Fufina said at 1:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Some speculation that the Cowboys were interested in him with the next pick. Any player we snake off the Cowboys i will support to the end of the earth.

  15. 15 D3FB said at 4:41 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Switzers a better player so we got got

  16. 16 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    While I wouldn’t be quick to give up on kids with untapped potential like Agholar and DGB who are still really young in their career and were learning an intricate west coast offense for the first time last season, I LOVE the idea of giving our young WRs another chance, but Also adding enough talent to make it tough on them, putting a ton of pressure on Nelson/DGB to work and perform this summer and earn another year on this team to prove that they aren’t Busts.
    ..
    Sounds like this Hollins kid can learn the Tricks of the trade from Torrey interms of stretching/making plays down field, while also being suited to learn the jump ball craft from Alshon Jeffrey
    ..
    Is this pumphry kid going to be used as a legit RB like SPROLES, or is it more likely that we see The Eagles use him as more of a slot WR who wins off quickness?

  17. 17 Gary Barnes said at 1:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Why move up to ensure you get Pumphrey? What about him is so special and such a good fit for the Eagles?

  18. 18 Dave said at 1:58 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Dallas wanted him

  19. 19 Gary Barnes said at 2:00 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    So we used a 4th rd pick to block a division rival? If that is the reason, that is pathetic

  20. 20 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yeah that’s it, the Eagles wanted nothing to do with him but pissed away a 4th anyway

  21. 21 Sokhar20 said at 2:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yeah, we used a 4th just to annoy our rival and hold him hostage. We have no intention of ever using him.
    Stop being obtuse, man.

  22. 22 Ankerstjernen said at 3:10 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Upvote for ‘obtuse’ and the shawnshank redemption reference.

  23. 23 Tdoteaglefan said at 1:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Well there goes Gallman to the Giants

  24. 24 Ark87 said at 1:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Interesting, you can definitely see a change of philosophy on day 3 from previous years. The mantra for day 3 in previous years is get the guy with the tools to have a chance to be a starter or more, but dropped for whatever reason. No one here realistically projects to be a starter on day 3, so treat them like lotto tickets.

    So far we picked 2 guys that project to role-players/contributors and seem to have a realistic chance to be that. There is no chance Pumphrey will ever be a starter, just a nifty piece to trot out and move around for a handful of snaps.

  25. 25 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Have we seen any established veterans traded during the draft yet? Typically the 5th, 6th and 7th round picks are most likely to be traded for established players.
    ..
    Does Malcolm Butler fit schwartz defense as a corner? Since he hasn’t been traded, now might be an oportunity to trade for the kid giving up a pick in next years draft instead of this draft when we really needed our picks?

  26. 26 kajomo said at 2:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    We already don’t have a 2nd next year and a ton of guys on 1 year deals.

  27. 27 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:06 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yeah forgot about not having a second.
    ..
    But for example if we acquired a starter right now for say next years 3rd round pick, it would be like spending this years pick on the player we traded for, while spending the 2018 pick we really traded away on Sidney Jones who probably won’t play until 2018 anyway
    ..
    Getting a veteran for a 3rd in next years draft kind of balances out spending our 2nd in this draft on a kid who won’t play this year

  28. 28 ICDogg said at 2:00 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    We’re going to PUMPH you up

  29. 29 Henly125 said at 2:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Is it me or are the Bengals picking all the players we thought the Eagles would end up selecting? Geeeez

  30. 30 kajomo said at 2:03 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    They have the smallest scouting staff in the league. People often joke that they just read fan sites and draft those guys. This happens with them every year

  31. 31 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:03 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    sigh…there goes Marlon Mack

  32. 32 kajomo said at 2:04 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Maybe we trade for Jeremy Hil?

  33. 33 Steve Smegal said at 2:04 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Or sign Charles. I’m not sweating this.

  34. 34 Rellihcs said at 2:04 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Maybe but I’m still hoping for Aaron Jones. Or Corey Clement.

  35. 35 kajomo said at 2:05 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I honestly forgot about Jones. I’d love to pick him up. I’m not really high on Clement

  36. 36 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:07 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    God no

  37. 37 kajomo said at 2:04 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I am also sick of this stupid monkey

  38. 38 mksp said at 2:11 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Just follow along for some fun

    https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/847550194535337984

  39. 39 scratcherk said at 2:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    That dude loves him some Donnel Pumphrey. He is stoked on his twitter page.

  40. 40 ChoTime said at 4:24 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    @CutsOnaNickel

  41. 41 scratcherk said at 2:11 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    theres goes my butt.

  42. 42 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:13 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Shame… Would have been fun to Chant “Booty, Booty, booty, booty” during Eagles games

  43. 43 Green Sea Turtle said at 2:16 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Scratch that.

  44. 44 ICDogg said at 2:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/858368286131712000

  45. 45 Corry said at 2:14 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Mack just went to the Colts.

  46. 46 ICDogg said at 2:14 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yup

  47. 47 ICDogg said at 2:15 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/858382336399900672

  48. 48 Rellihcs said at 2:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    With Kittle and Kazee gone, I want Aaron Jones or Corn Elder with this next pick.

  49. 49 scratcherk said at 2:18 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Desmond king would be a value pick

  50. 50 Dude said at 2:20 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Donnel Pumphrey spider graph. Hmmm.

    https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/donnel-pumphrey

  51. 51 scratcherk said at 2:20 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    he’s like a knife.

  52. 52 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:21 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    So basically a young Dion Lewis, or will he be more of a quick slot WR here?

  53. 53 Dude said at 2:36 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Dion Lewis has a much sturdier build.

  54. 54 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Talking about how He will be used here? Scatback or more of a slot WR?

  55. 55 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:28 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Daniel Jerremiah just said he thinks he will be a slot WR for us

  56. 56 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:21 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Hope the Eagles trade back from our 5th

  57. 57 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:28 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yes!!!!! Thank you

  58. 58 scratcherk said at 2:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Lets see how they can possibly follow up the freaking screaming JIm guy to read the pick

  59. 59 RC5000 said at 2:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Udfa will be like a whole other draft later tonight haha.

  60. 60 scratcherk said at 2:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    CORN!!!!

  61. 61 Rellihcs said at 2:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I know.

  62. 62 Green Sea Turtle said at 2:26 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Corn went up the Butt

  63. 63 Rellihcs said at 2:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    F, really wanted Kazee or Corn… On well

  64. 64 RC5000 said at 2:28 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    trade?

  65. 65 ICDogg said at 2:28 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    No Corn No Pick

  66. 66 RC5000 said at 2:31 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    hahaha. You have to pick your own corn.

  67. 67 scratcherk said at 2:29 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    traded down with TEN

  68. 68 SteveH said at 2:29 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Trade… wonder what we got.

  69. 69 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:29 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    6th

  70. 70 scratcherk said at 2:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    6th comp, basically 7th

  71. 71 scratcherk said at 2:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/858387774050848768

  72. 72 Corry said at 2:32 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    ugh. A run on a players the Birds want seems to happen every year.

  73. 73 Steve Smegal said at 2:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    He’s just speculating. I’m sure Howie was dying to trade down to recoup that pick.

  74. 74 kajomo said at 2:34 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    They are so afraid to trade up for some reason. Douglas effect?

  75. 75 RC5000 said at 2:37 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Guess he’s got Howie on speed dial?

  76. 76 A_T_G said at 2:40 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    C O R N !

    Nooooooooooooooooooo!

  77. 77 mksp said at 2:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    So 139 + 155 + 230 for 132 + 164 + 214?

  78. 78 RC5000 said at 2:31 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    huh?

  79. 79 Green Sea Turtle said at 2:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    We moved up and down and up. Kinda like sex. Butt different.

  80. 80 A_T_G said at 2:34 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Getting all fancy with the back up at the end.

  81. 81 SteveH said at 2:37 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    If we’re feeling really frisky we might move down again. It’ll be epic.

  82. 82 RC5000 said at 2:35 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Got it. I’m doing 5 things at once right now. texts and calls and food…

  83. 83 SteveH said at 2:32 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    What specifically was this most recent deal? We moved back to 164 and picked up 214?

  84. 84 mksp said at 2:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yes

  85. 85 scratcherk said at 2:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Isiah Ford?

  86. 86 Mitchell said at 2:41 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Omg forgot he was still there!!!!! Yes.

  87. 87 RC5000 said at 2:47 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Please but Shelton Gibson is possible too. They had interest in him.

  88. 88 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    The Bucs should end up being a real fun team for HardKnocks This year which was much neded after last years Boring La Rams team. It was amazing how incredibly boring HardKnocks was last year, the highlight was an Ignorant donkey who didn’t believe Dinosaurs were real.

    HardKnock needs to bounce back strong or it might be time to pull the plug on the show if it’s as bad as last season

  89. 89 scratcherk said at 2:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Zamora — if we’re not getting mixon, f this guy too

  90. 90 BobSmith77 said at 2:42 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Still wonder if the Eagles don’t trade for a veteran RB. Veteran RB FA available at this point are really slim pickings.

    If not, it is likely a UFDA who competes for a job in camp and wins one.

  91. 91 scratcherk said at 2:44 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    or wait for cuts, etc

  92. 92 BobSmith77 said at 2:46 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Maybe but I would expect they would be a bit more proactive than that.

  93. 93 BobSmith77 said at 2:46 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Didinger has made some prescient calls on the Eagles. He had them taking Barnett a month ago because of their need for a young edge rusher and said they would look at Pumphrey as a possible replacement for Sproles in the 4th/5th round.

  94. 94 SteveH said at 2:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Diddy is pretty connected to the FO so not too surprising he’d have those insights.

  95. 95 BobSmith77 said at 2:52 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yeah but I don’t remember him nailing those kind of calls the past few years.

    He said they would likely go defensive-heavy early on including addressing CB concerns early on.

    Of all of the talking heads locally I heard who predicted what the Eagles might do, he knocked it out of the park and was eerily spot on. Pumphrey call was just a capper on some great predictions.

  96. 96 scratcherk said at 2:47 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    OK who do u guys want?

  97. 97 Green Sea Turtle said at 2:49 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Christian McCaffrey, butt…

  98. 98 scratcherk said at 2:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    jake butt?

  99. 99 Green Sea Turtle said at 2:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Butt Corn

  100. 100 Corry said at 2:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    What running backs are left?

  101. 101 scratcherk said at 2:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    dayes?

  102. 102 scratcherk said at 2:49 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Ok we’re on clock

  103. 103 Steve Smegal said at 2:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Think we traded back again.

    Looks like to Miami. Guessing we dropped back two and picked up a 7

  104. 104 ICDogg said at 2:52 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Two spots

  105. 105 scratcherk said at 2:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    ugh trade back to miami

  106. 106 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:53 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Good. The more late round lottery picks the better. Don’t care about missing out on specific late round targets fans fall in love with based off the Fraction of info they are privy to that goes into making these decisions

  107. 107 Steve Smegal said at 2:53 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Never mind. Had it wrong.

  108. 108 Fufina said at 2:53 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Howie made a deal with Douglas to be allowed to run the 5th round on his own, and he is putting his elite firstpick.com skills to work trading back to acquire all the 7th round picks (i managed to get 38 7ths once)

  109. 109 BobSmith77 said at 2:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Never understood his fascination with acquiring so many 7th round picks.

    There is nothing to suggest on all of the analyses I have seen that they are fundamentally different than UFDA especially from mid-7th round & on.

  110. 110 Fufina said at 2:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    UFDA’s you have no control about where they sign… 7th round pick you control their destiny.

  111. 111 scratcherk said at 2:53 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    miami takes asiata with our pick

  112. 112 xmbk said at 2:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Good thing DF3B is gone

  113. 113 scratcherk said at 2:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    d3fb is never gone. he’ll be back with a vengeance.

  114. 114 Steve Smegal said at 2:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    It’s silly to get upset about. Obviously they knew who the Dolphins were taking and wouldn’t have made the trade if that’s who they wanted.

  115. 115 D3FB said at 4:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Joe Douglas is a steaming pile of fuckboi

  116. 116 xmbk said at 7:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Trust the process. Apparently they will protect a lead by scoring more. Worked great for the Falcons in the SB.

  117. 117 ICDogg said at 2:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/TDavenport_NFL/status/858393789727113219

  118. 118 SteveH said at 2:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Interesting. moved back 2 in the 5th moved up 10 in the 7th.

  119. 119 Fufina said at 2:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    6th?

  120. 120 SteveH said at 2:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Ah you’re right. That makes it better.

  121. 121 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    So we didn’t gain an extra pick?

  122. 122 RC5000 said at 2:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    We moved 2 to move up 10 that’s fine.

  123. 123 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Boooooo want extra lottery Tix, trade back again lol

  124. 124 scratcherk said at 2:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    on the clock again

  125. 125 Fufina said at 2:57 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    im praying for another trade.

  126. 126 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Same

  127. 127 scratcherk said at 2:57 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    they picked

  128. 128 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:58 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Boooo lol

  129. 129 scratcherk said at 2:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Shelton Gibson

  130. 130 ICDogg said at 2:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Shelton Gibson

  131. 131 truehaynes said at 2:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Why? Asiata would have been better value

  132. 132 RC5000 said at 3:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    No room .They wanted a deep receiver/ kick returner.

  133. 133 RC5000 said at 2:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I got one right kinda

  134. 134 A_T_G said at 3:31 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    You had Hollins on your watch list yesterday too.

  135. 135 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:00 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Another WR? Training camp is gonna be a blood bath competition amongst yoûng WR. Agholar and DGB’s agents better get to work now just in case

  136. 136 ICDogg said at 3:01 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    They’re on notice

  137. 137 RC5000 said at 3:04 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Kick returner too. poor mans desean. avg 32 yards had one for td this year. Hollins & Gibson should make it with STs. He’s been compared to Tavon Austin but he’s not quite as fast.

  138. 138 Julescat said at 3:05 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    will DGB and Agholor both make it to training camp?

  139. 139 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:27 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Probably since its not like they have any trade value

  140. 140 Mitchell said at 3:05 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Was Gipson hurt when he ran the 40? Hes touted as a speed demon but only ran 4.5.

  141. 141 truehaynes said at 3:06 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Ran 4.39 at pro day. Article said something about it being miscalculated at combine

  142. 142 RC5000 said at 3:06 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Cool why did he fall so far?

  143. 143 Mitchell said at 3:06 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Just saw that. Thank you

  144. 144 kajomo said at 3:08 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I love the Gibson pick. He reminds me of a guy the Steelers would take and would use his speed as a mismatch. He’s really improved his hands over the last 2 seasons. He has the potential to be a low volume, but high impact guy on the outside.

  145. 145 mksp said at 3:10 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Jeffrey / Smith / Matthews / Agholor / Hollins / Gibson huh

  146. 146 scratcherk said at 3:14 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    one of those is not long for that world.

  147. 147 GermanEagle said at 3:15 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    You forgot Marshall!!!!

  148. 148 GermanEagle said at 3:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    And Treggs.

  149. 149 GermanEagle said at 3:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    And Bailey.

  150. 150 GermanEagle said at 3:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    And Watford.

  151. 151 RC5000 said at 3:18 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Two new guys can help STs.

  152. 152 mksp said at 3:11 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    We should trade JMatt for a 2018 4th

  153. 153 Media Mike said at 3:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    yup………….

    and get Barbre, Kelce, and Kendricks traded for 2018 while we’re at it. i’m not trying to hear a SINGLE F-ING WORD FROM ANYBODY about having to cut those guys rather than getting compensation.

  154. 154 Media Mike said at 3:11 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I like the additions of the WRs today. Seem to have some excess players there now; Howie needs to get his butt in gear on some trades. I’m not trying to hear about any cuts of NFL players as we need to get some extra 2018 draft assets back.

  155. 155 GermanEagle said at 3:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I would still try trading for a veteran CB.

    And get on the phone to Jamaal Charles’ agent please. Thanks.

  156. 156 RC5000 said at 3:16 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Jason McCourty is a FA. Might go to N.E. to join his bro. They need to free space to sign picks I think but maybe they have something up their sleeve.

  157. 157 Bert's Bells said at 3:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    My sources inside Novacare say look out for a blockbuster deal to move Paul Turner for a PACKAGE of future picks.

  158. 158 Crus57 said at 3:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Tooth picks, yeah?

  159. 159 Media Mike said at 3:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Better than a cut.

  160. 160 Fufina said at 3:15 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Apparently Big Bill B is trading the 2020-2025 1st round picks for Paul Turner as they attempt to get the final piece they need for a Super Bowl run. Its tough to give up on an obvious 1st ballot HOF player like Turner, but 6 1st round picks are too good to pass up.

  161. 161 Media Mike said at 3:16 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I’m willing to take conditional on making a roster or practice squad 2018 7th. The scraps from the lord’s table should be an honor for any other team to receive.

  162. 162 A_T_G said at 3:28 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I want a 4th in 2023 to sweeten the pot.

  163. 163 phillychuck said at 3:12 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Gibson it is. Ran a 4.39 on his pro day and killed it in the shuttle. Best time at the combine.

  164. 164 mksp said at 3:15 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I’m still higher on Agholor than Matthews

  165. 165 Ben Piggot said at 3:15 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    ??

  166. 166 kajomo said at 3:16 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    How is that possible? I can’t stand Matthews because he is so unreliable, but Ags is such a loser. I can’t wait for Ags to be cut. I’m ok with Matthews finishing out his rookie deal.

  167. 167 mksp said at 3:18 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    If Agholor can put it together he can at least create separation. The tools are there.

    They both have terrible hands. JMatt has size, but that’s really it.

  168. 168 Media Mike said at 3:17 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Agholor, by virtue of his contract, is here for 2017. Matthews, by virtue of HORRIBLE contracts given out to people like Marvin Jones, is due for $8 mil / year on the open market after this season.

    Time to get something for Matthews other than a possible 2019 comp pick.

  169. 169 mksp said at 3:20 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Eagles offense gonna look so different next year. Added some fun players.

  170. 170 Media Mike said at 3:22 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    And anybody on the current roster who took a lot of snaps last year who will be gone had damn well better be moved for some draft picks.

  171. 171 Media Mike said at 3:26 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    If we’re still looking at RBs to add, I’d love to see us get DeAngelo Henderson from Coastal Carolina in round 6.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/deangelo-henderson?id=2557850

  172. 172 Rellihcs said at 3:29 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Aaron Jones?

  173. 173 Media Mike said at 3:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Just looked him up. I’d be cool with him.

  174. 174 xmbk said at 3:32 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    As long as he’s smaller than every one of our wideouts.

  175. 175 Media Mike said at 3:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    He’s a very sturdy 210 as he’s only 5’7″

  176. 176 ICDogg said at 3:27 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/MikeShemesh/status/858401993555095552

  177. 177 kajomo said at 3:27 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Not a lot of TEs left.

    I really like Coke Hikituni. The eagles showed interest in Blake Jarwin. If they want a TE to groom, those may be 2 of the few options left.

  178. 178 Media Mike said at 3:28 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    F-ing Washington getting Sprinkle irked me.

  179. 179 kajomo said at 3:29 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Jeremiah said he thinks Pumphrey will be a slot guy. Has Howie commented on him yet? I find that hard to believe.

  180. 180 Fufina said at 3:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Nope – imagine it will happen after their last pick.

  181. 181 Media Mike said at 3:30 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    So why the F aren’t I seeing the Jordan Matthews for a 2018 4th that can become a 3rd trade?

  182. 182 Rellihcs said at 3:31 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    No rush. This year’s draft is still happening.

    Fyi…

  183. 183 Media Mike said at 3:31 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    ALL RUSH! I need all accounts closed for fear of losing assets for zero compensation.

  184. 184 Rellihcs said at 3:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Enough red bulls for you. Switch to bourbon. It’s time.

  185. 185 Media Mike said at 3:34 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    why not Four Loko?

  186. 186 Rellihcs said at 3:42 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Because I don’t want you to not make it to next year – where would we go for mocks?

  187. 187 Media Mike said at 3:43 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  188. 188 Fufina said at 3:37 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Eagles have so many free agents next year, and such limited cap that i am sure they are going to try and play the comp pick game for the first time in forever in 2018. Issue is we don’t get picks until 2019 but even if Matthews walks in FA we will probably be getting a 4th round comp pick

  189. 189 Media Mike said at 3:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    “Issue is we don’t get picks until 2019”

    Exactly; too much spec there.

  190. 190 scratcherk said at 3:32 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    honestly i’d err on the side of more weapons for carson than an extra 4th next year

  191. 191 Media Mike said at 3:34 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I hear you on that front, but I think the best weapon for Carson is Lane saying no to drugs and Warmack / Seumalo starting over Barbre Doll and Kelce the Dwarf. I need the assets.

  192. 192 scratcherk said at 3:35 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    its all about the ass…ets.

  193. 193 Media Mike said at 3:35 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Guilty as charged.

  194. 194 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Dont draft 5th round picks assuming they will start day 1

  195. 195 Media Mike said at 3:35 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    But we absolutely cannot risk losing people for nothing.

  196. 196 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:36 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Considering jordan mathews is currently our best young WR and he publically stated that he doesn’t even Believe in WR’s making crazy money, I wouldn’t assume he isn’t in our future plans just yet
    ..
    Btw, worst case scenario He walks and adds to compensatory pick formula

  197. 197 Media Mike said at 3:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I’m not waiting until 2019. I need clarity………yesterday.

  198. 198 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I don’t even think the Eagles know yet dude, growth rate plays a role in who we invest in Longterm
    .
    I also don’t think its a terrible idea to see how a young WR looks playing with the same Qb two years(even more so when he played with a rookie QB last year) in a row before we pull the plug, especially when it was also his first time in a west coast offense that was probably more complicated than chips simplified offense
    ..
    Also wouldn’t mind seeing how Jordan looks now that we actually have weapons around him that command the respect of opposing defenses

  199. 199 Media Mike said at 3:41 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    That’s certainly fair, but it doesn’t give me any guarantees that he signs for well below market.

  200. 200 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    How many Guarentees do you really get in the NFL, a sport where you can shred your knee and lose your career stepping the wrong way on the practice field… How much guarenttee is there really in a draft that is a little more than educated crap shoot? Heck you can’t even Guarentees that quality star veteran Free agent will transition to your team and be the same player he was on his old team.
    ..
    Not much Guarentee in this NFL world.
    .
    we are talking about a kid, Jordan Mathews who was friggin happy that Macus smith got picked in Round one instead of him because Marcus family needed 1st round money more, I wouldn’t worry too much about Jordan Mathews being eager to price his way out of philly
    .
    Hard working kids tend to eventually Develope

  201. 201 Media Mike said at 3:46 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I want one more than anyone else gets.

  202. 202 ACViking said at 3:47 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I definitely see Jordan Matthews leaving a couple million dollars on the table to stay an Eagle (paying Philly and PA taxes) . . .

  203. 203 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Find it easier to believe that 175lb player will line up in the slot than in the backfield, tho we likely see a little bit of both

  204. 204 kajomo said at 3:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    But why not just draft Chad Hansen if you want a slot WR. He’d have a lot of work to do on his route running. Could be a poor man’s Curtis Samuel I guess.

  205. 205 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:48 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Im just finding out about Pumphrey, and I have no idea who Chad Henson is… Asking the wrong person

  206. 206 Media Mike said at 3:49 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Pump is a lot of fun to watch.

  207. 207 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Sounds like he had a ton of explosive big play ablity with the vision to match from what I read

  208. 208 scratcherk said at 3:35 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    trent taylor was a good pick

  209. 209 Media Mike said at 3:37 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yeah, interesting talent for sure.

  210. 210 Anders said at 3:38 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    When I see rasul Douglas name i keep seeing it as ras al ghul

  211. 211 ICDogg said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Yep. Maybe he will lead a team of assassins

  212. 212 Media Mike said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Hopefully he assassinates the careers of Odell, Dez, and Pryor.

  213. 213 scratcherk said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    our pick coming up again. Targets?

  214. 214 scratcherk said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Matt Dayes?

  215. 215 kajomo said at 3:40 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Cole Hikutini
    Shalom Luani
    Elijah Qualls
    Matt Dayes

  216. 216 ACViking said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Looking for MEDIA MIKE —

    “Kelce the Dwarf” . . . fantastic image

  217. 217 Media Mike said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Thank you!

  218. 218 RC5000 said at 3:39 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Lorenzo Jerome S, Elijah Qualls DT (Beau type), Marquez White CB, Ashton Lampkin CB , Matt Dayes RB, Elijah Hood RB, Jalen Myrick CB are on the board.

  219. 219 kajomo said at 3:41 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Did that guard from UTEP go yet? I know the Eagles shoes some heavy interest in him.

    It’s not UTEP actually. I can’t remember the guys nane

  220. 220 Media Mike said at 3:43 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Tim Hardaway is a f-ing punk who can f himself for talking smack on Iverson the other day. He’s a complete a-hole who I hope gets hit in the f-ing head with a brick and dies a slow drooling death.

  221. 221 kajomo said at 3:44 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    It was Ethan Coope from IUP. He could be a target

  222. 222 Rellihcs said at 3:43 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Please Please Please Aaron Jones.

  223. 223 Media Mike said at 3:45 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Please address all death threats to Green Bay. I’m sorry we didn’t get your boy.

  224. 224 Rellihcs said at 3:45 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    OUCH

  225. 225 ICDogg said at 3:44 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Didn’t realize our pick is a 5th, last in round

  226. 226 Media Mike said at 3:44 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Howie getting big value!

  227. 227 scratcherk said at 3:44 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    should be on the clock soon

  228. 228 Media Mike said at 3:48 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Can NFL Network shut up jack off O’Hara and get to people discussing / broadcasting the Eagles pick announcement?

  229. 229 scratcherk said at 3:49 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    on the clock i believe.

  230. 230 Media Mike said at 3:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Somebody tell NFL Network that and get their dumb adds off of my TV.

  231. 231 scratcherk said at 3:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    pick made

  232. 232 Media Mike said at 3:50 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    But we got to watch an add with the d bag from Silicon Valley instead. #blessed

  233. 233 scratcherk said at 3:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    what happened to the PE.com broadcast?

  234. 234 ICDogg said at 3:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Nathan Gerry

  235. 235 ICDogg said at 3:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Safety Nebraska

  236. 236 scratcherk said at 3:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Nathan Gerry S

  237. 237 Media Mike said at 3:51 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Nathan Gerry? Is that a joke with Golden and the Saint Francis kid on the board still? That’s as stupid as Blake Countess last year.

  238. 238 scratcherk said at 3:52 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    well that was exciting..,………..

  239. 239 SteveH said at 3:52 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Safety. So we got a DE, 2 corners and a safety now. About what we expected.

  240. 240 Corry said at 3:53 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I figured this would be a defense heavy draft. I’m just surprised there hasn’t been a RB picked yet.

  241. 241 RC5000 said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    They took a small back Pumphrey.

  242. 242 Corry said at 3:56 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I don’t really count him. I”m assuming he’s more of a gadget/mismatch type player.

  243. 243 Fufina said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Nope he is being converted to LB the Eagles announce. Makes sense at 220lb and 6ft2, with enough frame to put on the extra 15-20lbs to be an WLB

  244. 244 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Works for me, I was hoping we would come out of the draft with a LB. Always wanted one of those Safety/LB hybrids

  245. 245 Media Mike said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    There were better WILs out there still. This is as stupid as Countess was. UDFA player.

  246. 246 RC5000 said at 3:57 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Excellent, he’s an instinctive hitter.

  247. 247 kajomo said at 3:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    That makes me feel way better about the pick

  248. 248 ICDogg said at 3:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    We still have #214

  249. 249 scratcherk said at 3:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Apparently hes going to be a LB for the Eagles.

  250. 250 Corry said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    …at 209 pounds?

  251. 251 Media Mike said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I have him at 218

  252. 252 Corry said at 3:57 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Still light. I’m assuming he’s our “got a hang nail so we IR’d him” candidate.

  253. 253 Media Mike said at 3:58 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    True. Bad pick. He was a UDFA that wouldn’t have required any draft capital to add.

  254. 254 scratcherk said at 3:55 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    bring on the bacon

  255. 255 Tdoteaglefan said at 3:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    That makes sense, he looked pretty tight hipped at the combine, reaaally Tight like REALLY tight. But Seems like a dude that loves contact and will be best around the box

  256. 256 RC5000 said at 3:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I’d like one of these DT loads. Elijah Qualls or Stevie T.

  257. 257 Media Mike said at 3:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Stevie would be great.

  258. 258 Media Mike said at 3:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    UDFA level safety; dumb, dumb, dumb.

    This guy looks like Sean Considne’s even more traumatically brain injured cousin.

  259. 259 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:54 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Wait this Brantly dude knocked out a woman like a week or two before the draft? A defensive tackle hitting a woman at that? And what Mixon did years ago was the big story because it was on video? How do you even justify spending a 6th on this idiot?

  260. 260 scratcherk said at 3:57 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    i dunno, kind of an underwhelming draft overall. but i guess thats what happens when amateurs like me try to watch/project the draft. gotta trust the eagles to know what they’re doing

  261. 261 kajomo said at 4:00 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I honestly prefer the cowboys draft and they picked way after us in most rounds.

  262. 262 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:01 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Easy to have a good draft on paper when you are willing to draft any scumbag in the name of talent

  263. 263 kajomo said at 4:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    What scumbag did they draft?

  264. 264 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    3rd rd corner no?

  265. 265 kajomo said at 4:04 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I get the feeling it’s similar to the Conley situation. His girl got mad and decided to try and ruin his life.

  266. 266 Fufina said at 4:00 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I loved the first 3 picks. Love Gibson in the 5th. I don’t love unproductive elite tool WR’s generally as NFL prospects so not a fan of Hollins as much. Pumphrey is a fun college players but has big questions about his transition to the NFL. Gibson seems someone you can get later in the draft honestly.

  267. 267 D3FB said at 4:23 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Gibson probably went a little later than I thought. I would have been fine with him at 118

  268. 268 SteveH said at 4:01 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I’m actually pretty happy with the first 4 picks. Later picks tend to be crapshoot anyhow, so I’m good with whatever the Eagles think might work out.

  269. 269 SteveH said at 3:58 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    I stand corrected, linebacker. I guess that makes more sense.

  270. 270 Media Mike said at 3:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Elijah Lee would have been a better pick.

  271. 271 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:59 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    “Caleb Brantly saw the terrible reaction to Joe MIxon and was still stupid enough to do this two weeks before the draft?”
    .
    That’s an extreme level of stupidity and lack of self control, I would want no parts of trusting that dude

  272. 272 GermanEagle said at 4:01 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Blimey!!

    90.000 people will be watching Klitschko vs Joshua at the Wembley Stadion today.

    And it’s on free TV in Germany. Yes!!!

  273. 273 Dude said at 4:01 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    Antonio Brown spider: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/antonio-brown

    Shelton Gibson spider: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/shelton-gibson

    Gibson to the pro-bowl confirmed.

  274. 274 kajomo said at 4:03 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    He has big time upside. I wanted him in round 4. I didn’t think he would last that long. He won’t be a high volume guy like Brown, but could be a Mike Wallace type deep threat.

  275. 275 Fufina said at 4:02 PM on April 29th, 2017:

    New thread up

  276. 276 SallyForth said at 12:15 AM on April 30th, 2017:

    Mack Holins = Riley Cooper.

    … and this isn’t necessarily a bad thing. They appear to bring similar skills (along with the size).

    As for Pumphrey …

    One has to figure that he’s been doubted and written off routinely in his career. But all he does is show up and set rushing records against quality opposition. He may not be as easy to dismiss as might be imagined …