Some OL Fun

Posted: July 18th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 56 Comments »

Jason Peters is pretty good. And fun to watch.

I don’t remember Danny Watkins ever doing that.

And now for some Brandon Brooks talk. This surprised me. 

When I was watching Eagles tape for my Zach Ertz scouting report recently, I checked out Brooks. He had some really good moments, but he frustrated me quite a bit as well. I don’t think he does a good job with his hands. Good blockers get their hands on defenders and you know…block them. Brooks used his massive frame to push on defenders more than I like. That can lead to missed blocks.

There is no question that Brooks was very good at times.

The Eagles OL could be outstanding this year. They certainly have one of the biggest, nastiest groups in the league.


56 Comments on “Some OL Fun”

  1. 1 ColorSgt said at 11:41 PM on July 18th, 2017:

    I love when Peters gets out in space. You can tell defenders know what is coming. They shy away from the block. Peters doesn’t disappoint either. He doesn’t let up until the play is over.

  2. 2 ColorSgt said at 11:50 PM on July 18th, 2017:

    If the old addage is still true in today’s game, the Eagles can win by winning in the trenches. Both OL and DL will be fun to watch.

  3. 3 A_T_G said at 12:34 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    If memory serves, Tyler gave similar impressions of Brooks when we signed him, said that him physical superiority in college made him sloppy and it hasn’t gone away yet.

    The success last year might point to him improving. That would be encouraging for our offense and our coaching.

  4. 4 D3FB said at 8:05 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    That was my Warmack report.

    Brooks was a guy that I found to be consistent. He doesn’t miss many many blocks, he’s really good in pass pro. He’s good. The one problem I do have with Brooks is in the run game. He just doesn’t mash on people like he’s capable of. You see the flashes like Tommy posted, but too often he’s content with just making the block.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good player. He’s just slightly underwhelming because he could be a top 5 guard.

  5. 5 Guy Media said at 9:24 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Thank you for the constant solid breakdowns on O-line play.

  6. 6 Bacon & Iggles said at 1:10 AM on July 19th, 2017:


  7. 7 Benny6968 said at 2:01 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    JP is such a beast when he is fresh.
    If we get JP making blocks like that for Blount, then it will be fun to watch.

  8. 8 Anders said at 3:26 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    If the OL can hold up, the offense will have it so much easier.

  9. 9 Dave said at 7:24 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Unless the starting center gets blown up by large nose tackles.

  10. 10 Mitchell said at 8:00 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    That happens every year :/ Although I understand the difficulty. The NT has the best view of the ball on defense and the center not only has to react to that but also snap the ball. Not an excuse but I get it.

  11. 11 Guy Media said at 9:17 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    It is the cost of doing business with Kelce at C. An upgrade there can’t happen soon enough.

  12. 12 Guy Media said at 9:15 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Yeah, but hopefully only for this year. At the longest. Transitioning to Sem at C while he’s still on a cheap rookie deal with an upgrade to RG (over what Kelce provides at C) would be best.

    Not moving on from Kelce was really disappointing. Perhaps something pops up (injury / suspension) with a team’s starting C that we can still get Kelce traded.

  13. 13 Guy Media said at 9:17 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    And this perpetually sums it up on Kelce

  14. 14 Dave said at 1:35 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    That’s a depressing read.

  15. 15 P_P_K said at 2:51 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    I agree with Dave.

  16. 16 P_P_K said at 9:10 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Jason Peters & Jon Runyan — #1 & #2 on my all-time favorite O-linemen list.

  17. 17 Guy Media said at 9:19 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Runyan, along with B Mitch, were really smart additions to a team that needed some strong veteran presence in 2000 in order to learn how to win.

    And Peters is so damn good. I really hope he has another strong year, makes another pro bowl, and really cements his HOF legacy.

  18. 18 P_P_K said at 10:18 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Excellent points all around. I loved those epic Runyan-Strahan battles.

  19. 19 fran35 said at 3:45 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    As much as I hate to say it, I always felt like Strahan got the better of it.

  20. 20 Guy Media said at 3:54 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Due to poor framing by boadcasters. Strahan actually had very few sacks head to head with Runyan.

  21. 21 Dude said at 6:58 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Yeah, my memories of that battle have Runyan coming out on top. At the very least he held the HOFer at bay most games, with some chip block help.

  22. 22 P_P_K said at 4:23 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    As much as I hate to say it, I agree with you. Also, as much as I hate to say it about a Giant, especially one that inflicted such damage to the Eagles, Strahan seems like a pretty decent guy.

  23. 23 fran35 said at 5:07 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Definitely not a Strahan supporter here, I just always thought the battle was not nearly even. Runyan seemed to do well when we ran the ball, but back then Andy Reid ran the ball about six times per game. I know it frustrated Runyan a lot. Truth be told, I really can’t stand Strahan on TV now. It kind of feels like Tiki Barber all over again, those Giants can’t get enough attention. I really favor the lunch pail kind of guy. Hence, my appreciation for JP.

  24. 24 P_P_K said at 10:44 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    I felt the same way until I watched “A Football Life” episode about Strahan. He came across as a decent, honest guy. Still hate him for being a Giant, though.

  25. 25 Tumtum said at 1:58 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    The only Jerseys I have bought in the last 15 years are Trott’s when he actually retired, B Dawks, and Wentz’s. I think I’m gonna have to get a JP when he hangs it up.

    Not to wear of course…

  26. 26 Sb2bowl said at 11:41 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Amazing how little recognition Thomas gets as a stud LT for all of those years.

  27. 27 Tumtum said at 1:56 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    See, I felt like he was far more embraced by the fans while here, than JP ever has been.

  28. 28 Sb2bowl said at 2:20 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    He suffered from being so good for so long that we just kind of assumed he had his side taken care of; he was revered during the almost decade he manned his spot, but he’s faded from the spotlight unlike Westbrook, McNabb or Dawk. I feel that Trotter has a higher fan recognition than Thomas ever did, but Thomas was a far superior player.

  29. 29 P_P_K said at 2:46 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    You’re right. I’m guilty of that. Tra was an anchor on the line and went to several Pro Bowls, but I tend to think of Jon as The Man. Part of it was, again, those battles with Strahan that were so brutal and involved so much trash-talk.

  30. 30 Tumtum said at 3:58 PM on July 20th, 2017:

    Well as his aged his play fell off significantly. There was ALWAYS a conversation about his ability in the run game, and toughness as well. None of that is ever a legitimate question with JP.

  31. 31 Sb2bowl said at 11:10 AM on July 21st, 2017:

    No doubt that JP is the better player and talent, but Thomas was no slouch either. We’ve been fortunate to have players of that caliber on the most important position of the OLine for the last 20 years.

  32. 32 Tumtum said at 8:03 PM on July 21st, 2017:


  33. 33 BobSmith77 said at 9:35 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Peters is already an all-time great Eagles’ player (this season is his 9th as an Eagles’ player) and I would argue their best OL all-time.

    Just a question at this point if he is a HOF candidate.

  34. 34 ACViking said at 10:26 AM on July 19th, 2017:

    Close race between JP and HOF OT Bob Brown

  35. 35 Guy Media said at 6:28 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    I wish I had been able to have seen Brown play.

  36. 36 Tumtum said at 1:55 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Gonna miss him when he hangs it up. He has never really received the love of a Trey Thomas or big John Runyan. In reality he is the child of both them and better than either of them at what they are best at (okay maybe Runyan was a little meaner).

    I can say with confidence he is the best Eagle I have ever watched play. Even better than Brian Westbrook, Briand Dawkins, Troy Vincent, Eric Allen etc. (T.O is not in line for consideration here of course). ***What I saw of Reggie doesn’t count, I could barely wipe my own ass at the time***.

  37. 37 fran35 said at 3:44 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    I agree. I love him. I think he is meaner than Runyan because there is nothing cheap, dirty, or fake about him. Runyan tried to be meaner than everyone to mentally intimidate superior athletes and gain an edge. With JP, he doesn’t have to try. He is just a bad arse. I remember when Chris Baker of the Skins put a cheap shot on Foles. My heart swelled with pride when Papa Bear JP came running out and sent Baker flying. I really, really love this guy. He isn’t as charismatic as Dawk, not prone to theatrics, but he should be a HOF. Every bit as good as a Willie Roaf, IMO.

  38. 38 Guy Media said at 3:55 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Amazing when Peters did that.

    And Troy Vincent can go f himself for not suspending Baker for that hit.

  39. 39 daveH said at 6:37 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Possibly only Eagle or nfl’r to truly get that end of contact big moola. . That speaks for itself

  40. 40 CrackSammich said at 12:13 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    NFL needs to make their off-field behavior policy match their PED policy. Any and all arrests = 4 games, 1st offense. Settle out of court, you can still play (Player still loses their money). It would take the whole criticism of this being worse than that out of it, and they still get to claim they give a shit about anything besides their image.

  41. 41 Tumtum said at 1:49 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Seems unfair, and not exactly matching to their PED policy.

  42. 42 CrackSammich said at 2:08 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    The only fair system would be to stay out of it entirely, but they’ve decided that they can’t possibly do that. I think standardizing the punishments would at least take the guesswork and the subsequent ranking of crime severity out of the equation.

  43. 43 Tumtum said at 4:04 PM on July 20th, 2017:

    I am personally for scaling the punishment to the arbitrary severity of the crime. Probably better to hire a board of retired players to doll out the punishments though.

  44. 44 Guy Media said at 3:36 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    I think there needs to be a way to get arrests that go to legal gimmicks (like pre trial diversion, lying to get out of DUIs like Dak!) to avoid guilty verdicts to lead to suspensions from the league. Dante Fowler, Dak Prescott, POS Josh Brown, should all have been suspended already.

  45. 45 teltschikfakeout88 said at 12:48 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Man…how humbling the NFL must be…You’ve been a bad ass stud your whole life and you line up against JP and he just throws you to ground like a rag doll…I could understand acceptance of such things from mere mortals like myself…but man…when JP threw that guy to the ground in the 2nd video…savage AF…

  46. 46 DrGeniusPhD said at 2:23 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    heh, remember this guy?

  47. 47 Guy Media said at 3:35 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    With that grin he looks like the next tech bro to get charged with harassment.

  48. 48 fran35 said at 3:37 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Holy crap! I completely forgot about this guy. He was going to be our solution to a deep threat. Then he wasn’t. If he had panned out, we wouldn’t have had to waste a Draft pick on Desean Jackson (just kidding of course).

  49. 49 CrackSammich said at 3:14 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Does anyone here think Kurt Cousins* turning down a contract is smart? Yeah, if he keeps up his numbers, he’s making a fantastic financial decision. Even if turns out to be mediocre, his salary is going to be massive just because of the importance of not having a bad QB. But he’s basically gambling that he will do just fine without his two best receivers. Eagles fans, tell em how that’s gonna work out for him. He’s basically gambling to maybe eek out an extra $10mil vs potentially losing all of it, becoming the next Sanchez or Foles if he’s found out.

    *I’m aware.

  50. 50 Guy Media said at 3:34 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Washington didn’t offer him a penny over the money he’d be guaranteed with the tags, so he was smart to tell them to get bent. He’d be the best QB to hit the FA market since Peyton Manning and without any missing neck pieces. I think he’s a cinch for a deal well in excess of what Washington offered.

  51. 51 CrackSammich said at 3:38 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    You’re right only if he performs this year. If it turns out he can’t play without Garcon and Jackson, then he’s not getting that kind of money.

  52. 52 Guy Media said at 3:56 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    There are a ton of very astute NFL contract guys who are saying it doesn’t matter what Cousins does this year; he’s getting paid. One of them is Joe Banner who we all know well about low balling deals.

  53. 53 Dave said at 9:23 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Andy gave up two 2nd rounds picks for Alex Smith.

    The Texans gave Brock Osweiler a huge deal.

    Teams are desperate for QBs.

    Cousins and Jimmy Garoppolo are going to be in high demand next year and both will be getting paid.

  54. 54 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:43 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Yeah, I do think the next jersey I get needs to be a J. Peters jersey. He’s just been outstanding. Well worth everything we paid the Bills to acquire him and every penny in his contract. Best Eagles player over the past decade.

  55. 55 增达 said at 9:16 PM on July 19th, 2017:


  56. 56 ColorSgt said at 10:36 PM on July 19th, 2017:

    Unfortunately, I’m thinking Peter’s HOF chances are dependent on the Eagles winning a Superbowl in the next two years.