Your Starting DL?

Posted: July 12th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 48 Comments »

This could be a pretty fun group.

LDE

DT

DT

RDE

That is one impressive set of players.

And keep in mind that Vinny Curry, Chris Long, Beau Allen, Elijah Qualls, Steven Means and others will be coming off the bench.

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  • gherbox

    Yeah, should be.

  • ColorSgt

    Awesome, Tommy. Timmy made that look easy. CBs just have to play tight coverage long enough. They don’t have to be great. Nothing is more frustrating than the opposing offense having all day to throw. I don’t think that will happen with this DL.

    • Ankerstjernen

      Who knows, they might make CBs like Mills and Douglas – physical and competetive CBs without long speed – look like mobsters in this kind of defense.

      For what its worth, I think the Eagles have identified the right strategy for dealing with the likes of Dez, Odell and formerly Jackson in Washington. you prioritize getting a great pair of safeties, and you build your D-line to force the quick throws to these scary receivers. It turns the onus on your safeties to limit YAC in stead of winning contested catches down the field, and it allows you to use bigger cornerback with some succes even if they aren’t super fast – the kind of players that are easier to get in FA or a little later in the draft. The downside of course is that it puts a lot of pressure on your LBs to handle the run game and those big athletic TE’s at the same time. We saw the downside of that in the games we lost to the Redskins last year. Which means that right now, lack of LB depth is the scariest part of our defense. Hicks is really important this season, can’t afford another injury to him.

  • CrackSammich

    Vinny Curry sack, or did MSIII’s hand get there first? #controversy

    • CrackSammich

      (Either way, I’m a little sad the linebacker didn’t get a chance to hit him. Can’t read the number– Tulloch?– had Wilson dead to rights.)

    • SteveH

      MSIII? Shit did we get another one?

  • Guy Media

    I’m very curious to see how many of these guys make the 53 man roster. 9? 10? Will it wind up being a lost (or last) season for Beau Allen? Is is wise to start Barnett right away or use him in a situational role until he gets used to 3 down NFL work? How well does Jernigan play and how to that alter his chances of staying here on a long term deal? Does Curry improve his sack totals or does he get cut and indicted for grand theft contract on the same day after the season? Does Graham improve his sack total? Will people stop baselessly criticizing Fletcher Cox?

    • CrackSammich

      Beau’s injury may have ended his Eagles career after this season. I like the player, but he’s like 4th or 5th down the line when it comes to contract decisions (Hicks, Jeffrey, Jernigan, whatever RB we need to sign next year), and especially since Jernigan is going to eat up a lot of DL money, he’s not getting the contract he wants. If Qualls shows anything, Beau is gone. They’re already using Gordon in the FB/extra lineman role.

      • Guy Media

        Yeah; he’s on the final year of his deal. I’m not sure what his price point would be for an extension, I’m not sure how well he comes back from the injury, I’m not sure how annoyed they were that it came away from the team, and we’ll see what guys like Qualls do when given the chance.

        • D3FB

          Why the hell would the team be mad that a guy tore his pec in training? Shit happens. Was the team pissed when Peters tore his Achilles the first time working out? No. (The second time they were def pissed but that was about murdering everyone involved in the roll-about industry).

          • Anders

            There is also a reason why teams dont ask for too much money back because if they do, they know the NFLPA will use it the next time for the CBA

          • Guy Media

            Don’t teams NFI guys for that sometimes?

          • D3FB

            Sure but that’s just business. Teams get it. It’s not like he was benching 135 and ripped his pec up.

          • RobNE

            by the way how did his lawsuit turn out?

          • D3FB

            Won $2million

      • D3FB

        Beau’s probably gone after the season (I’m dubious he’s going to play much until close to November anyways).

        He could be back though if Jernigan wants big big money. Non pass rushing 1techs don’t cost a ton of money. Ced is a better player and got 4/17.

        Also I don’t think we’re going to sign a RB next year. I’ll be shocked if we don’t take one in the first three or four rounds.

        • CrackSammich

          They *should* take one high next year, but these things have a way of always being infuriating. I’d put our draft needs next year as exactly the same as last year, honestly.

          • or____

            I mean you could argue de and cb might be much less of needs nexr year, and ot much more… Backup mlb, another lb, and starting rb, I’d say draft needs will be different next year.

          • D3FB

            Unless it’s Bell no back we would pick up would be a big money expenditure.

            It’s probably roughly similar but I’d say a T is probably top of the list, and S could be too (Malcolm gets pricey next year)

  • Corry

    These guys were fun to watch for stretches last year too (The Vikings game was ridiculous), but then they just sorta disappeared. Here’s hoping they’re more consistent this year.

    • Guy Media

      Clearly the pass rush / pass coverage wound up out of sync with itself last year. My preference would be to blame the whole thing on Vinny Curry, Kendricks, Carroll, and McKelvin; but that won’t quite pay the bills.

      I just need to see them get off of the field more often when they’ve got the other team stuck in a 3rd & 4 or longer.

      • Corry

        The 3rd and long situation I think managed to double my blood pressure over the past few years.

        • Guy Media

          It is easily one of the most unacceptable elements of the team.

  • Chiptomylou

    D-Line gonna eat this season boyeeee

  • Tom33

    OT – but any chance the Eagles can sign DeAngelo Williams once Matthews gets cut? He’s my new favorite free agent:

    “My fandom for the team I was raised as will not allow me to go to the Cowboys,” Williams told Schefter. “I’m an ’80s baby … and the 49ers ruled the ’80s. The Cowboys somewhat did something in the ’90s; I even refuse to give them that.

    “The Cowboys, they win. They just don’t ever show up during the playoffs. They always disappear in the playoffs. I’ve got a great depiction of the Cowboys’ fan base. During the regular season last year, they were on cloud nine. You couldn’t tell them anything because they were going to win the ‘ship — that’s all they said. Fans just got extremely super annoying. Then, the minute they lose, they either got cheated, somebody was hurt — the excuses start flowing. It’s just amazing to me. That fan base just in general can’t handle defeat. Still, to this day, they say that the Dez Bryant catch against the Green Bay Packers was a catch!”

    • CrackSammich

      No. Mathews isn’t taking up a roster spot, so he doesn’t need to be replaced.

    • Guy Media

      I don’t know what he actually adds to the team vs. what’s here now. Maybe if there is an injury and you can add him after week 1 so his money isn’t guaranteed.

    • or____

      Love the quotes, which is why i posted yesterday. But Sproles is better and smallwood + Pumphrey are more important to keep compared to what he’d theoretically add.

      • Sean Stott

        I mean, Smallwood is OK, but I don’t really see how he’s important to keep.

        • or____

          Depth next yr when probably Sproles and Blount leave. Versus going heavy on aging vets.

  • izzylangfan

    Yeah, lets mess up some QBs.

    • Guy Media

      Eil first due to his rude number of games played in a row being more than Jaws.

      Dak next; just to humble Dallas

      Cam after that

      That’s my top 3 for the year.

      • Ark87

        Eli brings me too much joy to wish ill upon.

        Skip Dak, if they’re under the illusion that Dak is a good QB, they won’t look for another QB, thus avoiding any chance of them getting a legit QB and launching another Cowboy’s dynasty.

        Cam plays through a broken back, he’s easy to injure, hard to take out. One of the toughest QB’s in the league, and I know you don’t want to hear that.

        Only people I wouldn’t mind see getting beat up are the Winston’s and Mixons of the world

  • Benny6968

    I love me some D line talk.
    I have not been this hopeful for our D line, since the days when Reggie, Clyde and Jerome and Mike were making life impossible for any offense they faced.
    It didn’t matter how good they were at blocking or what they did schematically.
    Nothing could stop them, especially whenever Reggie decided to display his dominance.
    He was beyond amazing and just short of impossible as he defied all logic in the way he could manhandle anyone and sometimes two 300+ pound men at the same time.
    I can remember like it was yesterday where Reggie would literally toss massive grown men out of his way.
    I have never seen a DE since then that could dominate at the level Reggie did on a regular basis.

    • Guy Media

      Extra credit for leaving “Mike” without a last name to include both Mike Pitts and Mike Golic!

    • Guy Media

      And your explanation of White’s amazing level of skill and power is why White will forever remain the greatest defender in the history of the NFL; New York fluff on Lawrence Talyor be damned.

      • daveH

        Splitting hairs over 2 GOATs

        • Guy Media

          No “2 GOATs.”

          Reggie is the D GOAT in football.
          Wilt is the Basketball GOAT

          Any other answers get you dealt with like the loser in the Rangers jersey in the Pat’s Steaks line.

          • daveH

            Name the 1 GOAT in his respective sport. .that tramscends to overall all sports included GOAT … ??

          • TXEaglesFan

            Gretzky

          • daveH

            The Great One. And Greatest nickname ever

  • Insomniac

    That Jernigan sack. Hnnnnnnnnnnnnng.

  • Sean Stott

    Crazy how far Curry has fallen. He’s just a small footnote in this article about the defensive line. Too bad about his top-5 salary though. The highlight of him was against literally the worst offensive line in the league, and the sack took him the better part of ten seconds.

    • ColorSgt

      Yeah I really hope he bounces back this year. The other guys on the line might help bring out the best in him, where at least he could be a key part of the rotation.

  • bobeph

    small………………….wood

    • Flyin

      toothpick

  • Flyin

    The starting front four has the potential to be fun, but it is all about the chemistry and fluidity of the back 7 meshing with the D Line that will actually make it fun.

    • Flyin

      I was at the game Hicks broke Romo’s collarbone. Great fun for two minutes Big plays need to backed up by solid play.