CBs Are People Too!!!

Posted: August 7th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 125 Comments »

I guess the Eagles CBs had enough.

They have been ridiculed, criticized and dissected for months now. On Monday they struck back, having a solid practice. There’s no need to start getting any Hall of Fame speeches ready, but it was a positive sign for a group that has been living in a world of negativity this offseason.

Jeff McLane actually had good things to say about…Patrick Robinson.

4. Patrick Robinson has been steadier over the last week, and on Monday, he might have had the play of the day when he intercepted a Wentz toss. The quarterback went to his left on a quick out, but Robinson perfectly timed his break and jumped Smith’s route. He probably would have gone the other way for a pick-six. Wentz hustled back to track him down, but the play was whistled dead. Agholor continued to come up with catches he might not have made a year ago. He plucked a Wentz bullet out of the air down the middle. Later, Agholor came down with a contested pass that both he and safety Rodney McLeod had deflected.

Robinson has talent. He was very good in college and has had good years in the NFL. Things have just not clicked for him this spring/summer. A lot of it seems to be confidence. If the light goes on for him, he could play much better. For now, one good day feels like a major accomplishment.

Stack practices, Patrick. Stack practices.

Good OL/DL notes in this section.

9. Hamilton used a powerful get-off to push Warmack back a few yards during line one-on-ones. Warmack anchored well against Hamilton’s second push, though. Curry destroyed tackle Matt Tobin during their faceoff. It was the fastest I’ve seen the end get off this camp. Curry brought the hammer Monday. Derek Barnett lined up on the left for the second straight day. The Eagles want their ends to be versatile, but could he rush predominantly from that side moving forward? Barnett had trouble powering up against tackle Halapoulivaati Vaitai, who easily pushed the rookie to the ground. Before Alex McCalister was to rush, defensive line coach Chris Wilson said, “Alex, have a plan.” It might seem like a simple suggestion, but there have been moments when the second-year end hasn’t look prepared. Qualls used a swim move to slip guard Aaron Neary.

Good to hear that Curry impressed. A strong season from him would help the defense in a major way.


Jimmy Bama wrote about C.J. Smith.

• C.J. Smith had a nice day. He was physical at the line of scrimmage and had sticky coverage. On one deep ball to Bryce Treggs, Smith had excellent position and had a chance at an interception, but could not haul it in. I would expect to see a ton of Smith in the preseason games so the team can see if he can win a starting job.

Smith has generated a buzz in recent days. He hasn’t exactly set the world on fire, but he’s played the best of anyone other than Jalen Mills. Maybe the emergence of Smith has started to get Robinson’s attention and is bringing out the best in him.

• I’ve been slow to mention him, but former Villanova linebacker Don Cherry has had a nice camp. Today he leaped high for an interception of Matt McGloin, ending the offense’s hurry-up bid for a score.

• At one point today, the Eagles showed a 3-4 look. I thought that was interesting, as it was not a session in which the Eagles’ defense was simply giving the offense a different look for their benefit.

Cherry is battling for a roster spot. Making plays like that will help his cause quite a bit. I expect him to handle run plays okay. Cherry needs to show he can cover and do his part on pass plays.

There is nothing wrong with mixing in some 3-4 looks. A lot of the front seven has 3-4 experience so shifting to that look could be an effective way to throw a curve ball at a coach/QB.


Brandon Lee Gowton has some good nuggets today. DT is an uncertain position so the Eagles need a backup to stand out.

• Gabe Wright is a name to keep an eye on. He was having a lot of success in OL vs. DL drills. Wright even earned praised and a pat on the butt from defensive line coach Chris Wilson. Wright could be the fourth defensive tackle with Cox, Tim Jernigan, and Destiny Vaeao ahead of him. (Note: Beau Allen will likely be the third DT when healthy. His timeline to return is currently unclear.)

Destin Vaeao is currently the #3 DT, but that isn’t set in stone. Wright has to earn a roster spot before there is any talk of where he fits on the depth chart, but it is good to hear he’s flashing. This system is a good fit for Wright so it should bring out the best in him. I expect him to play a lot on Thursday night. Huge opportunity.

• Shelton Gibson update: only one drop! And it was on a tough play where Gibson almost made an impressive catch along the sideline. Unfortunately for him, he couldn’t “complete the process” as he went to the ground. Gibson did come back with a few tough grabs. He’s certainly looking better in the past two days than he has all offseason.

• With that said, I still think I’d have to put Greg Ward ahead of Gibson. The undrafted rookie made a real nice over-the-shoulder catch with Aaron Grymes all over him. Everyone in the practice bubble was pretty impressed. Ward earned a high-five from Jeffery. Ward also had a nice catch over the middle at one point. He’s really pushing to make either the Eagles’ final roster or the practice squad.

I don’t think there is any question the Eagles would keep Ward over Gibson right now. But there are several weeks to go and Gibson has four games in which he can make his move.

I do think it is important that the young man has fought through his struggles. There are more than a few players who struggled and let that overwhelm them. Mental and emotional toughness are critical factors to succeeding in the NFL, whether as a starter or role player.

• Corey Graham and Terrence Brooks took some reps as the second team safeties while Jaylen Watkins lined up at cornerback.

I wondered if Watkins might get more time at CB. We’ll see if he continues to get CB reps or if this was just a one-day situation.


I’m not a Phillies fan, but Dutch was special. And that ’93 Phillies team was so much fun to follow, even for people outside the city. That felt like a true baseball team, a cast of characters that had an amazing season and were better than they ever should have been based solely on physical talent.


125 Comments on “CBs Are People Too!!!”

  1. 1 Sean Stott said at 2:10 AM on August 8th, 2017:


  2. 2 Buge Halls said at 8:41 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Nobody cares

  3. 3 ChoTime said at 1:07 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I care.

    Someday–someday–I will be blessed with that perfect storm of persistence, luck, potential, hand-size, and talent that will allow me to notice Tommy’s newest article before anyone else, and I’ll take advantage of these things and, with any luck from the typing and internet gods, manage to eke out those precious five letters and hit the reply button before the competition. On that day, I will be able to say that I was finally Numero Uno at something… that will be a fine day, indeed.

    Well, done sir.

  4. 4 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:48 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Well played ChoTime…Well played Indeed…keep up the ambition and good things will happen for you on the internetzzz….

  5. 5 ChoTime said at 5:55 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Thank you for the encouragement, my friend. When I make it, I won’t forget you and all those who supported my efforts.

  6. 6 CrackSammich said at 5:46 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I actually saw it before he posted and considered torpedoing his effort, but I didn’t. Perks of working night shift, I guess.

  7. 7 Insomniac said at 5:26 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Our CBs are human? For the past 5 years I only saw turnstiles with numbers playing on the field.

    “Jaylen Watkins lined up at cornerback”

    I still don’t know why they didn’t put Watkins back as a CB. While his tackling was abysmal, he showed that he could stick to most WRs pretty well in his limited time on the field as a CB in the past.

    Also nice to hear Gibson is adjusting. People are trying to write him off way too early. Seriously, none of these players have played a damn snap in a game yet so hold your horses.

  8. 8 Tumtum said at 8:33 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I think it was something about his ability to get off the line. Though, I do think he was a hybrid for a year or two to begin his career.

  9. 9 Insomniac said at 4:14 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    He was being cross trained when he was drafted if I remember correctly but that was for a different coach/scheme. I thought Watkins showed more promise as a CB than MIlls had so far.

  10. 10 Tumtum said at 8:12 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Watkins was drafted and treated as a contributor and never lived up to it. Mills was nobody and forced his way on the team.

  11. 11 ChoTime said at 1:04 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I saw Garbage Cans.

  12. 12 Insomniac said at 4:02 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Hey now just because they were some stationary objects you still can’t just fat shame them like that.

  13. 13 Ark87 said at 5:50 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    yes, they are clearly mile markers (green and numbered too!) courteously placed so receivers can track their progress on their way to the end zone.

  14. 14 Dave said at 6:32 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Off-topic: Anyone around for the 93 Phillies run at the World Series will find this obit spot-on.

  15. 15 P_P_K said at 10:32 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    That team was so much fun to watch. I’ll bet every longtime Phillies fan remembers where they were when Carter hit that walk-off.
    Rest in peace, Mr. Daulton.

  16. 16 Gary Barnes said at 11:30 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Yup, gut wrenchingly watching the game with my GF and her father. That team should have won. RIP Dutch

  17. 17 P_P_K said at 1:44 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I watched the game with my Dad at his house in NE Philly. I was screaming at Fregosi not to put Wild Thing in as his arm was shot.

  18. 18 A Roy said at 1:52 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Agreed with your Dad but told my buddies Fregosi would subscribe to the theory you “dance with he what brung ya.” I was also at the Vet for game 3…15-14 and wanted Fregosi to leave Mason in the game. Nah. He knew more than I did…

  19. 19 P_P_K said at 2:29 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    It was my screaming at Jim, not Dad. Poor Mitch, he was just worn out tired. I remember someone on the Phil’s bench with a towel over his head, I believe before the homer. I always know more than the coaches and managers when I am right. I delete anything proving I am ever wrong!
    You’re luck to have seen that 15-14 game. What a classic.

  20. 20 Gary Barnes said at 3:05 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Schilling had the towel over his head, he could not watch

  21. 21 Gary Barnes said at 3:06 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Oh God, I watched that game too…slow torture like being stretched out on an iron rack. You just knew they were going to blow that lead, ughh

  22. 22 A Roy said at 3:15 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    “Please, Jim. Leave Mason in.” And played in a steady mist. Water torture. Game 6 was more typical for us Philadelphia fans. Waited for the shoe to drop.

  23. 23 RobNE said at 5:02 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Years later and Grady Little hadn’t learned the same lesson.

  24. 24 eagleyankfan said at 7:56 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Barnett had trouble powering up against tackle Halapoulivaati Vaitai, who easily pushed the rookie to the ground. — Seems we’re reading this daily about Barnett. We can only comment on what we read(so, no I have no idea about how he’s really doing). It appears Barnett has 1 move and that’s it. He’s been working on that ‘spin’ since April. Maybe he’s a late bloomer and he is clearly in no rush as he has some very good talent ahead of him. 1st round ‘teen’ picks still come with some expectations. I’m not saying bust – I had just hoped to read better comments about him since one of the goals over the winter was to ‘better the pass rush’…

  25. 25 A_T_G said at 8:06 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Late bloomer? He has only been able to drink legally for about a month. Patience, grasshopper.

  26. 26 eagleyankfan said at 8:43 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Late bloomer — more muscle to handle nfl players…

  27. 27 Someguy77 said at 11:40 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Yeah. Hell, they even played a single preseason game where you used to see more of the usual preseason hype kick in .

  28. 28 Anders said at 8:08 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I hope you do not expect more than 3-5 sacks from him

  29. 29 Tumtum said at 8:32 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I would be estatic with 3-5 sacks and maybe even reel in my bust concerns that I was so roundly criticized for in this space.

  30. 30 eagleyankfan said at 8:58 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I missed your comments about him…can you re-state?

  31. 31 Tumtum said at 8:20 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Just expressed an irrational doubt due to our history at the position. Almost tounge in cheek. Got roasted like I was saying I actually thought he was going to be a bust.

  32. 32 eagleyankfan said at 9:02 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    right now, a 3rd and long specialist? 3 is a good number.

  33. 33 Insomniac said at 8:16 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    1. It’s only been a few months.
    2. Vaitai was not much more effective than a blocking sled last year
    3. He pretty much does have one effective move and that’s bending the corner with his plodding speed
    4. Your expectations might be too high for someone who probably doesn’t have a high ceiling in the first place.
    5. panic at your own pace.

  34. 34 Tumtum said at 8:31 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Yep Big V had a bad game last year, and he certainly won’t ever be Lane Johnson. Is that any reason to turn on the blinders for the major improvements he made last year? Looked to me to be along the lines of low end starter by the time he was through. Hard to expect more from a first year bench player.

  35. 35 Insomniac said at 4:09 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    One very noticeable bad games as well as a slew of below-average games. I don’t think I need to comment on that very very bad game. Big V didn’t get beat as bad after that but he didn’t do much to help the team either.

  36. 36 eagleyankfan said at 8:56 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    3 will get you no where in the NFL without other moves that he’s working those.
    4 I disagree – I do think he has a high ceiling
    5 who’s in a panic? Just making observations off of what’s reported. Like I stated in my comments – not rush for him.
    6 — I could sit and complain daily about the CB’s…..

  37. 37 Insomniac said at 4:08 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    2. Big V has length advantage, what is surprising is that Barnett is supposed to be someone who has good balance.

    3. Yes but it’s only been a few months? I know MSII has people paranoid about slower learning but you need to give him time.

    4. I don’t see him being anywhere near a top 10 DE. Average speed and power in an era where DEs are freaks doesn’t bode well for Barnett.

    5. You came off a bit negative. My bad.

    6. Join the club, just don’t bring tacos some of us have really bad gas.

  38. 38 eagleyankfan said at 7:41 AM on August 9th, 2017:

    I guess I am ‘middle ground’ leaning on the negative side just a tad. From a 1st rounder – you’d like to read some ‘good news’ once in awhile…again, that’s just based on what I’m reading – he might be having an ‘above expectation’ camp…

  39. 39 Tumtum said at 8:28 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    What expectations exactly do you have? Serious question.

  40. 40 eagleyankfan said at 8:53 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I know people like to blow comments out of proportion(see below). From any drafted player, out side top 5ish, I don’t have any real expectation year 1. College to nfl is a big jump. So it’s not really what my expectations of what he’s going to be, it’s the expectation of what I’m expecting not to read. This kids own body isn’t fully developed yet. And again, it’s only comments that’s written about him that I can comment on. He’s working on his spin move, I get that it’s not an over night move one just magically develops. It’ll take time. It’s the daily reading of him “on the ground” and a word chosen by the writer “easily”. Tough to read daily. (MS and all the – “give him time” is still fresh in my head)

  41. 41 or____ said at 9:40 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I believe you are getting WAY ahead of getting WAY ahead of yourself… just my 2 cents.

  42. 42 eagleyankfan said at 11:16 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Why is getting WAY ahead of WAY ahead – it’s just an observation. I didn’t say he’s a bust nor label him the new coming of LT. Just commenting on reports…..wouldn’t it be nice to once read “He’s really adjusting to the nfl speed or he’s winning some battles or hey, he stayed up right all practice”…maybe there are some positive reports out there….

  43. 43 or____ said at 12:02 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I hear you, and you were being balanced about your comments. But, you said:

    “It appears Barnett has 1 move and that’s it. He’s been working on that ‘spin’ since April. Maybe he’s a late bloomer”

    I think we don’t know what moves he has or doesn’t have yet. I don’t think we know about the status of his spin move. And I don’t think we know about his functional NFL strength, and I don’t think we can declare him a late bloomer at something when it’s still going to be “early” for basically another year from now…

  44. 44 eagleyankfan said at 7:38 AM on August 9th, 2017:

    fair enough…

  45. 45 MattE said at 9:48 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Meh not to worried about it, in actuality it might speak volumes about our OL depth more than anything.

  46. 46 MattE said at 9:49 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I just want him to be “disruptive” like Curry was when he was a part time contributor.

  47. 47 Ark87 said at 10:14 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    This is why I was luke-warm on the pick. He doesn’t have that freakish physical profile, nor is he some super polished pass rusher with a bevy of moves. He is physically similar to Curry when he was coming out of college, though he bends around the corner way better than Curry, and he had great production. Hence the first round.

    That being said. That’s par for the course for pass rushers in the first round. They are super-valuable so they get drafted high. Barnett can have a Dwight Freeny-esque career, but he needs to develop some inside moves (a sick spin move would be amazing), or people who study his film will cheat to the outside and put him on the ground, a lot. He is going to take time to develop into a feature pass rusher. Familiarity is his enemy right now. I think he can fly under the radar as a rotational pass rusher and be productive against unfamiliar offensive lines. I’m still optimistic for him long term.

  48. 48 MattE said at 10:35 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Tennessee > Marshall

  49. 49 Ark87 said at 10:41 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I avoid that logic in the current era because it serves Wentz up on a silver platter in a counter-point.

  50. 50 MattE said at 10:50 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    However Wentz was head and shoulders better than his competition (Championships), same with Cam at Blinn (JUCO Champ)….Curry wasn’t a world beater at a small college. Plus obviously positional difference.

  51. 51 A Roy said at 1:35 PM on August 8th, 2017:


  52. 52 Benny6968 said at 11:39 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    I think he will be fine.
    Although his bread and butter move is bending around the corner, I have faith in the players around him to where he will not only pick up more moves but refine them over time.
    Beating Reggie’s sack record at Tennessee should not be overlooked.
    Reggie set the sack record in 1983 at Tennessee, and that record stood for 34 years before Barnett broke it.
    I for one will be surprised if he busts out, as even his co-workers have all spoken very highly of him as well.
    Hearing a story about how he sat down with JP after practice to get insight from an OL perspective tells me that he is dedicated to his craft.

  53. 53 D3FB said at 5:35 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    He turned 21 six weeks ago, hard to call that a late bloomer. For comparison Curry was a 24 year old rookie.

    From what I can tell he’s still mainly just trying to work secondary moves. He really didn’t develop any in college and so working on them now is a good idea since they’re going to take a long time to really become comfortable.

    1 on 1’s are also easy to cheat as a DL. You can create artificial amounts of space and basically cheat a rep.

    Rookie pass rushers historically do struggle. Even the GOATs only get 4-6 sacks their rookie year.

    Factor in that we’ve got a pretty solid second team OL, and Barnett probably hasn’t had much time off since last summer he’s probably just a bit worn down.

    If it’s week 6 and he’s rushing like Marcus Smith with no burst, violence or plan, I’ll be worried.

    Until then he’s really young and working to get better.

  54. 54 eagleyankfan said at 7:34 AM on August 9th, 2017:

    Well stated, thank you Sir. A question comes to mind – his college career is well documented. How is he vs. the run? I haven’t seen much on his skills vs. the run.

  55. 55 D3FB said at 10:15 PM on August 9th, 2017:

    He’s pretty solid for a college DE, with pass rushing ability. He’s one of the better ones. He should be able to set the edge well.

  56. 56 Tumtum said at 8:27 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    So is getting the Joselio Hanson award this year? The guy who no one expects then not only makes the team but plays a valuable role (hopefully for years to come). Smith? Ward? Cherry?

  57. 57 Benny6968 said at 11:43 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Aaron Grymes approves this message.

  58. 58 ChoTime said at 1:02 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Hm, this is more of a career retrospective award, don’t you think?

  59. 59 Tumtum said at 8:13 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    But this is about immediate satisfaction. Im a melinial.

  60. 60 D3FB said at 5:23 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    If he makes it Marcus Johnson. Second year guy who didn’t do shit in college or year 1.

  61. 61 MattE said at 9:27 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    CB Lives Matter lol

  62. 62 P_P_K said at 10:33 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    We’re talking practice…

  63. 63 Mac said at 11:11 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    During his tenure with the Detroit Lions, I was baffled by the fact that the team seemingly never spent resources to try to fix their issues at CB. It does seem as though the Schwartz defensive system does not call for premier talent at CB, which I hope means the defense can be effective this year… with the hope that it can take a huge leap forward when Jones is fully healed and Douglas has a year’s worth of NFL study/play for next year.

  64. 64 CrackSammich said at 5:57 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Because the Lions were too busy drafting WRs.

  65. 65 Benny6968 said at 11:25 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Another well written piece Tommy.
    I would love to see CJ or Aaron win a starting role next to Mills, but I am also holding out hope Robinson settles in at CB, as he has more experience than the others.
    Too bad Rasul seems to be falling behind as the defensive playbook was expanded during TC. I am sure his head is swimming right now, but it’s good to know that he can be good when he gets comfortable with all the calls.

    On the other side of the ball, I am glad to hear Gibson is finally starting to make plays as he was clearly having problems adjusting to the NFL from College.
    Having so much quality depth at a position of need from last season is always a good thing it will be fun to watch all the roster battles unfold at the WR.position.

    I am loving to hear WR’s like Johnson and Ward making their case.
    We are undoubtedly going to be cutting some good WR’s this camp and that is a problem I can’t remember having for some time.

    Also, did anyone else see Ifyani Momah playing last week with the Cards?
    He looked pretty good for an Eagles cast-off.
    I wish him well, unless we are facing AZ.
    He looks like he might make the team, but more likely he will be a depth player.

  66. 66 Someguy77 said at 11:37 AM on August 8th, 2017:

    Has there been an Eagles’ player in recent memory who previously stunk and got such hype this early in training camp?

    Completely understand the rationale for trying to salvage Agholor’s career as a slot WR and replacing Matthews. Just stunned to see not only the beat writers & others but the coaching staff including Reich throwing him some real praise even before a single game.

  67. 67 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:59 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    McDougle comes to mind.

    Oh wait, who was the downhill skier everyone fell in love with until we saw him as a disaster KR in pre-season?

  68. 68 RC5000 said at 12:58 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Darren Daulton…I don’t know how people can be a fan of him…

  69. 69 A Roy said at 1:32 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Quite the troll, asshole.

  70. 70 RC5000 said at 2:31 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I don’t know how you can be a fan of a bad person who recklessly endangered others many times. You lose close ones to drunk and/or reckless drivers you’d understand. He’s just lucky he didn’t kill anyone. I know women that have been abused and had their lives destroyed.

  71. 71 Julescat said at 4:21 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    we are all flawed, multi faceted people

  72. 72 RC5000 said at 12:48 PM on August 9th, 2017:

    I know many people that don’t do the bad things Daulton has done. I hope you get help if you do.

  73. 73 Guy Media said at 5:29 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I might have suggested you lead with that rather than leaving the slam on Dutch w/o any context in your original post. And I totally get the detraction on the guy, I have similar mixed emotions with Jerome Brown.

  74. 74 MattE said at 1:56 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    …..says the guy with no fans

  75. 75 RC5000 said at 3:28 PM on August 8th, 2017:


  76. 76 GermanEagle said at 12:59 PM on August 8th, 2017:


    I still need to find an (affordable) way to watch the Eagles game live on Thursday night.

    Amazon doesn’t seem to be streaming it since the game is not produced by either CBS nor NBC.

    The Gamepass costs 130 bucks which is too much for only 1 or 2 pre-season games.

    Any advice would be much appreciated!

  77. 77 A Roy said at 1:18 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Thought you were in Spain…

  78. 78 GermanEagle said at 1:22 PM on August 8th, 2017:


    A 3 months stay/wedding in Ibiza would have been nice. Unfortunately I am not retired nor rich, mate.

  79. 79 A Roy said at 1:31 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Ahhh. For some reason, when you said you were going to Spain to get married, I assumed it was because the lady was there and you were moving as opposed to a “destination wedding.” I looked far and wide, but “NBC10” was the best I could come up with. Cheers.

  80. 80 Bert's Bells said at 1:37 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I used to use a site that shows live games of all sorts from around the world. Sometimes the feeds were dodgy and I would only watch on a junker computer because it was clearly filled with more viruses than a 1985 Chelsea street walker. Think it was a .eu domain. Google “The Game Live” and you’ll get a bunch of sites that have similar offerings.

    This was before I could get Sunday Ticket (because of stupid DirecTV rules)…

  81. 81 GermanEagle said at 2:43 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    So basically direct tv or any sports bar in NYC won’t the show the Eagles game live???

  82. 82 Bert's Bells said at 2:52 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I don’t think DirecTv does pre-season, could be wrong.

    It’s possible Wogie’s will have it, maybe give them a ring. They’re on Greenwich Ave and like W. 11th (but probably not W. 11).

  83. 83 GermanEagle said at 2:57 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Thanks mate.

  84. 84 Bert's Bells said at 3:24 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    If they’re showing it, I might swing by. Probably not, but I’ll buy you a pint if we’re both there.

  85. 85 GermanEagle said at 5:03 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I’ll call them up tonight and let you know.

  86. 86 A Roy said at 3:09 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Great place to watch a game.

  87. 87 SteveH said at 1:43 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    There are some websites that stream these things, but you need to be careful and have your antivirus active and ready, they tend to be full of malware. Also the quality of the stream can vary greatly, you might end up with a pristine picture or a pixelated mess that stops to load every 5 seconds.

    Otherwise you’ll have to cough up the money if you want to watch. The NFL really puts the screws on you with things like sunday ticket and gamepass.

  88. 88 RC5000 said at 3:17 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    You might try sites called VIPBOX or Hahasports but you have to sometimes fire up several sessions to find one and you can’t have an expectation. You will surely miss some plays and there could be lag. If you have Norton anti virus you should be good.

    Also do a search on reddit free nfl streaming online before the game starts. I can’t guarantee you’ll have success.

  89. 89 P_P_K said at 3:42 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Does Gamepass still have the one week free trial? Sign up, watch, cancel.

  90. 90 GermanEagle said at 9:07 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    And I will just be doing that!!!

  91. 91 unhinged said at 4:11 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Wouldn’t a sports bar in your vicinity have it?

  92. 92 GermanEagle said at 5:02 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I’ll call the eagles sports bars Up tonight!

  93. 93 Bert's Bells said at 6:00 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Nobody cares about other city’s pre-season games. If they’re not nationally broadcast the average bar won’t have it.

  94. 94 GermanEagle said at 9:07 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Called both Wogies and Shorty’s. They’re not showing it. What was weird that Shorty’s said they would be showing the second preseason game but not the first one.

    Which I struggle to understand because both are not on NFL Network?!

  95. 95 John Galt said at 4:47 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I’m assuming the 24 hours delayed NFL network replay broadcast on Friday night isn’t good enough? It isn’t for me either, but don’t tell that to the 99.7% of the population that will think you are out of your mind for having to watch a preseason game live.

  96. 96 dandynator said at 9:02 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    you can always chek on or just google atdhe they are a bunch from different country that what i do and its ok most of the time, plan B shit

  97. 97 Ssakcis said at 7:10 PM on August 9th, 2017:

    Gears tv

  98. 98 RC5000 said at 1:26 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Eagles released first unofficial PR department generated depth chart :

    Corey Graham is ahead of Watkins already.

    Nathan Gerry is ahead of Grugier-Hill.

    Treggs is still ahead of Greg Ward.

    Marcus Johnson is ahead of Shelton Gibson – no surprise !

    Remember when Tobin was a coaches favorite?

    Warmack is likely replacing Brooks (ankle “strain not sprain” per McLane, hey that rhymes) Thursday so is that an indicator they’ll likely just keep 9 OL with Andrews listed as 2nd team RG?

    DT depth is shaky until Allen returns with Hamilton (who?) ahead of Qualls but Curry and Long can move inside some.

  99. 99 scratcherk said at 1:46 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Ags in front of Matthews as Slot.

  100. 100 D3FB said at 5:13 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Peters, Sem, Kelce, Brooks, Lane, Vaitai, Gordon, Warmack, and Wiz are locks.

    Everybody else is competing for the 10th spot against the rest of the roster. My guess is nobody gets it and we go with Orlosky and Greene on the PS.

  101. 101 SteveH said at 1:45 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    “Just had to turn off comments on a small story updating three Eagles injuries. Why? The players were Cox, Smallwood, and Johnson.”

    The 14 year old in me really appreciates that we’re the dong team.

  102. 102 ChoTime said at 3:29 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    If only Dick Vermeil was still our coach.

  103. 103 P_P_K said at 3:41 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    He was good with jocks, right?

  104. 104 D3FB said at 5:10 PM on August 8th, 2017:

  105. 105 GermanEagle said at 2:56 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Can you get NBC10 Philadelphia in the NY area?!

  106. 106 SteveH said at 3:05 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    No. I used to run into this all the time when I lived in Central Jersey.

  107. 107 GermanEagle said at 3:08 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    So not even with directv?!

  108. 108 SteveH said at 3:15 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Not even. They won’t change your local channels either. I posted won below my recommendation… Just look on Reddit before the game for a stream, you’ll likely get one, and it probably won’t be as shitty as the ones you’ll find through google.

    and I can’t stress this enough, make sure your antivirus is updated and at as much protection as you can get before you do it, and click on as little as possible when you get to the site.

  109. 109 Bert's Bells said at 3:22 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Ah, yeah. The only time I’ve used reddit (except for reading a Bill Murray AMA) was digging for a stream.

  110. 110 CrackSammich said at 6:15 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    best streaming site I’ve used is I assume that it isn’t legal.

    anti-virus recommended, but ad blocker is an absolute necessity.

  111. 111 Bert's Bells said at 3:43 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    There’s a video sharing site called A friend of mine watches Game of Thrones on it when it broadcasts. You can try that too.

  112. 112 Ark87 said at 5:26 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Don’t know how many of you watch Game of Thrones, but someone mentioned “Jaime Lannister got Brian Dawkin’d off his horse” in their episode summary. A) that is a LOL while at work for me. B) good to know that people besides us know who Brian Dawkins is.

  113. 113 Guy Media said at 5:27 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    We know who he is, but there are a room full of voters in Canton who need to get locked into a lodge while somebody tips over a brazier of hot coals.

  114. 114 Ark87 said at 5:31 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Right after getting Brian Dawkin’d.

  115. 115 Bert's Bells said at 5:31 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Was it the recap on “Fired Up Falcon with Alge Crumpler”?

  116. 116 Ark87 said at 5:43 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    started a “that guy won’t forget Dawk!”, then had a second take thinking about CTE, got sad, escaping to another train of thought-

    It was Chris Ryan, writes about basketball and an editor out of LA for The Ringer. Quick search though, he is from Philly so I guess nix my second point 🙁

  117. 117 Bert's Bells said at 5:55 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Yeah, if you’ve heard their GOT podcast, Binge Mode, they credit that dude as “Sixers fan Chris Ryan”.

  118. 118 CrackSammich said at 7:21 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    So does the [presumed] huge step up in our WR play guarantee that Groh gets poached next year?

  119. 119 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:50 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    Not if everyone cites the improvement in the personnel over the coaching. Now if Agholor suddenly looks like a 1st round draft pick, that’s a different story.

  120. 120 D3FB said at 12:59 AM on August 9th, 2017:

    He’s 45 and the only person who has ever entrusted him with OC duties was his father.

    So maybe, but from my understanding Defliipo is the offensive position coach you may want to move Reich along for.

  121. 121 CrackSammich said at 9:37 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    For the sake of humoring Guy Media, how much is Agholor going to cost us in two years after we trade Matthews or let him walk next summer?

  122. 122 Ryan Rambo said at 10:42 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    According to the Green Bay Press-Gazette’s Tom Silverstein, Packers second-round CB Kevin King has “struggled mightily” at training camp.
    Per Silverstein, King has been getting beaten badly by pretty much any receiver that lines up opposite him, especially in one-on-one drills. After drafting King with the first pick of the second round, Green Bay said it envisioned King as a Week 1 starter. But that’s unlikely to happen. Davon House and Quinten Rollins figure to get the nods there, with Damarious Randall and Ladarius Gunter behind them.

  123. 123 CrackSammich said at 11:20 PM on August 8th, 2017:

    I wouldn’t gloat too much. Our 2nd round corner isn’t going to play this year, either.

  124. 124 Ryan Rambo said at 1:29 AM on August 9th, 2017:

    Who’s gloating? Just another example that most young rookie corners struggle early on during this time of year.

  125. 125 NegarApe said at 2:05 PM on August 9th, 2017:

    Enough with Daulton, he was a ball player who beat his wife. You people are HOMOS.