Frustrating Loss

Posted: September 17th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 260 Comments »

The Eagles lost a winnable game.

That’s the biggest takeaway for me.

KC is the better team. They were at home. This was going to be an uphill battle. But there the Eagles were, tied at 13-13 in the 4th quarter. They had knocked Alex Smith around and shut down the KC offense most of the day. Then Carson Wentz threw a weird pick, where the ball deflected off a helmet and was caught by a DL. The Chiefs scored a TD there and that was the beginning of the end.

The game was right there for the taking, but the Eagles made mistakes and the Chiefs made crucial plays.

It would have been so much easier to take a loss where the Chiefs were clearly better and they methodically took apart the Eagles. Instead the two teams felt basically the same until the middle of the 4th quarter. That’s when the Chiefs played like veterans, like proven winners. The Eagles played like a team that is still trying to find itself.

Winners aren’t built overnight. It takes time for the players to gel and figure things out. The Eagles have the talent to be a good team this year, but they found out on Sunday that you can’t count on the opponent to make mistakes. WAS fell apart at times in the opener. The Chiefs didn’t make those mistakes.

The Eagles now sit at 1-1 after the first two games of the season. That’s a solid start when you consider that both games were on the road and they came against teams that had winning records last year. No gimmes.

Quick Hits

Isaac Seumalo had a bad game. One penalty and I think he gave up 3 sacks. Very discouraging. The Eagles had high expectations for him coming into this season.

Jake Elliott missed a chip shot FG, but made all his other kicks.

The DL was dominant at times.

Jordan Hicks and Mychal Kendricks played well. Hicks can be a punishing blitzer.

Torrey Smith failed to catch some early passes. Gotta make those plays.

CB Rasul Douglas played a lot and looked good. Very encouraging beginning for him.

You won’t be mistaking Corey Graham for Brian Dawkins any time soon.

The run-pass balance was bad…basically non-existent. Sproles was good on some runs. Smallwood didn’t seem to have any room. Need to watch the tape to get a better feel for what happened. Pederson said after the game he knows they need better balance and that they will keep working on fixing the run game. Something has to happen.

*****

I’ll post some extended thoughts later tonight.

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260 Comments on “Frustrating Loss”

  1. 1 Dave said at 5:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Sheil being the voice of reason some other beats are calling for Clements to play.

    https://twitter.com/SheilKapadia/status/909529079455428608

  2. 2 Insomniac said at 5:41 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m expecting fans to make a suck for Barkley movement sometime soon.

    Suck for Chubb seems more reasonable to me though.

  3. 3 Gary Barnes said at 5:43 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Agree this has validity – Blount does not seem to fit Pederson’s offensive scheme and thus may have been a “best of available options” move by Roseman/Douglas. Smallwood clearly is not a factor. Sproles is good, but limited. Clement dime a dozen.

  4. 4 Donald Kalinowski said at 9:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    And Kelce isn’t that good in the run game either. McCoy’s game covered up a lot of Kelce’s deficiencies.

  5. 5 Dave said at 5:39 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’d like to see Mack playing more, spelling both Torrey and Ags. I feel he, Alshon, and Ertz have the best hands.

  6. 6 laeagle said at 5:39 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think Mack is going to be a player. Floor is now a really solid #2, ceiling still TBD.

  7. 7 BobSmith77 said at 5:49 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It will be interesting to see how quickly he eats into the PT for Smith/Agholor.

  8. 8 Will Ft. The Roots said at 5:51 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Id keep Ags in the slot and move Hollins outside

  9. 9 Insomniac said at 5:42 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Ags is fine. Replacing Torrey with Hollins would be more ideal.

  10. 10 Dave said at 5:55 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The drop he had today says otherwise.

  11. 11 A_T_G said at 5:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The defender had his arm. You’d like to see him muscle through and catch the ball, but it wasn’t like last year.

  12. 12 Will Ft. The Roots said at 6:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    AJ had pass hit him in the hands too.

  13. 13 Mr. Magee said at 9:45 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    How many total drops today? I’m looking for fan opinion here, not official stats.

  14. 14 Gary Barnes said at 5:40 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Agree with your first line completely,. Tommy. That is why I am frustrated even though the Eagles overall played a pretty strong game.

  15. 15 RC5000 said at 5:56 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It’s interesting Tommy also said winners aren’t built overnight in light of your comment in last thread. . Fans like you expect them to be as you say you do in the other thread. But realistically, I agree with Tommy that you don’t build a team overnight like you expect.

  16. 16 Gary Barnes said at 7:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I do not expect winners to be built overnight. I’ve never said that in any thread on here.

    What I expect is consistent progress and eventually having a truly elite team that can win a SB before I die.

    Roseman has been either heavily involved or in charge since 2010. There has been little stability or progress during that period. He has always been a political operator with sharp elbows. He was heavily involved in hiring Chip who flopped and Pederson who is a question mark. His drafting and FA acquisitions have been mixed at best. His roster construction with RB being the latest example has been just ok. It does not seem to be aligned with any larger strategic vision.

    His trades and cap management have been his best attributes, but is that enough to build an elite team? I’m doubtful right now, but that could change if his hiring of Douglas in personnel pans out well and he improves in other areas.

    How much longer should we have to wait before we can start to expect more from the Eagles? Should we give Roseman another 5 years? Why? What has he ever proven or done to earn such a tenure? We have made the playoffs 2x and won 0 games since 2010. Win something and then talk.

    Again, expecting the team who states they are competing seriously for a playoff spot to have at the very least an effective run game is hardly an outrageously high standard. Especially when the HC they hired supposedly wants to use the run game as a key component of an efficient and consistent offense and they are trying to develop a young QB.

  17. 17 Eagles_Fan_in_San_Fran said at 11:15 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    “Rome was not built in a day”…
    and Chip left us with very little to build with.
    It is amazing that we are even thinking playoffs at this point. Gotta give Howie tons of credit here.

  18. 18 BobSmith77 said at 5:45 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    First time in a long-time I can remember the Eagles’ special teams didn’t come out today out on top although they did recover the onside kick.

    Gave up 6 pts today (missed chip before the half and the Sproles fumble).

  19. 19 Gary Barnes said at 5:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Fantastic play by Burton on the on-sides kick however…clutch

  20. 20 Charlie Kelly said at 5:47 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    “It would have been so much easier to take a loss where the Chiefs were clearly better and they methodically took apart the Eagles.”

    I disagree with this 100%

    I feel better that they showed they can compete at a high level, esp the defense.

    if the eagles got dominated that wouldnt give much hope of anything, playing well always brings hope and makes it easier to take this week 2 loss to a AFC team

  21. 21 xeynon said at 7:20 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m with you. Losing a winnable game is frustrating, but it’s much better than watching your team get pounded and just realizing they’re not good enough to compete with elite opponents.

  22. 22 goeagles55 said at 10:33 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    This is exactly how I feel. They lost the turnover battle. The O-line was not great. Some catchable balls were dropped. And still, this was a very close game in the middle of the 4th quarter against a very good team.

  23. 23 Buge Halls said at 5:47 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Two turnovers led to 13 points – deadly. And the missed FG. There were a lot of good things though. Hopefully it will cone together this season

  24. 24 nopain23 said at 5:47 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Talent on the oline is there. At some point you have to look at the o line coach.
    i think its time for a change there

  25. 25 Dave said at 6:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    That time will come, but not until the off-season.

  26. 26 Mr. Magee said at 9:47 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Overdue, actually

  27. 27 Billy Logue said at 6:13 PM on September 18th, 2017:

    I think you have to look at the OL men! Overrated talent in the middle of the line.

  28. 28 pxa said at 5:50 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Hunt did nothing until that one big play. Surprisingly Andy stayed with running the ball but Doug bailed early. Smallwood had a big 8 yard run and then was taken out the very next play. RBs need time and repetition. This RB by committee is BS. Name a starter and stay with it. Use other RBs as change up. The whole “hot hand” idea is a failed strategy that suggests the coaches and the front office do not know what they are doing.

  29. 29 Buge Halls said at 5:53 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’d say they don’t have the talent for a #1 which is why they have the committee. Nothing to do with coaching or the F.O.

  30. 30 Nailed It! said at 5:57 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    How is talent not a FO problem?

  31. 31 Dave said at 6:07 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The FO had exactly 1 off-season to fix the RB position. They missed out in the draft on several apparent targets and Blount was clearly the best FA target.

    The only way they could have gotten a RB in the draft was by reaching. I’m happy with the Jones and Barnett picks.

  32. 32 Insomniac said at 6:24 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Well we still have next year with limited ammo…

  33. 33 pxa said at 6:00 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Why did the FO not get a RB in a RB-rich draft? They do not have a #1 RB because the FO screwed up.

  34. 34 Will Ft. The Roots said at 6:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Valid question. In a RB rich draft we came away with Pump.

  35. 35 Insomniac said at 6:10 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Short answer: they were gone before we picked.

  36. 36 pxa said at 6:23 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    They could have traded up.

  37. 37 Insomniac said at 6:28 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    For who?

    Fournette and McCaffery were both gone in the top 10. It wouldn’t have made any sense to even trade up that far for those guys in the first place.

    The Vikings jumped in front of us for Cook and I doubt we even wanted Cook because of the red flags. Same goes for Joe Mixon.

    So who are you trading up for now without hindsight that’s also not named Kareem Hunt?

  38. 38 Guy Media said at 7:14 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Perine

  39. 39 Insomniac said at 10:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Perine who’s pretty much a smaller version of Blount?

  40. 40 Guy Media said at 7:16 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    And instead of Gibson or especially Gerry

    TJ Logan. Aaron Jones. Elijah McGuire. DeAngelo Henderson.

  41. 41 CrackSammich said at 7:47 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    please stop with this. there are 32 teams. there were not 32 RBs worth trading up for. youre complaining just to complain.

  42. 42 xeynon said at 7:19 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The problem is that all their RBs are deficient in at least one area, which makes naming a #1 guy tough.

    Blount is a good short yardage runner but doesn’t have the speed to get outside and his TD last week notwithstanding is a non-factor as a receiver.

    Sproles is too small to carry a feature back load.

    And Smallwood can run and catch but is suspect when it comes to blitz pickup.

    Clement might do all of these things okay but isn’t any better than average at any of them.

    They just don’t have the talent at this position to do anything other than RBBC.

  43. 43 Nailed It! said at 5:52 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I was driving home during the game but listening on radio. Seems we dropped far too many passes and were right with the Chiefs the entire day. Curry has to wrap up Smith and we might be looking at different outcome. Also, Wentz seemed very reckless with the ball today two maybe fumbles and a bunch of batted passes? Still Eagles could have had the win. Brutal.

  44. 44 A_T_G said at 5:53 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    My impression is that the “drops” weren’t as bad as you might be picturing. Mostly, they were good defense.

  45. 45 Nailed It! said at 5:55 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Copy, very tough to know while driving. Mike Quick kept going on about how receivers need to make the quarterback better and the Eagles wr’s weren’t helping today until the 2nd half.

  46. 46 Mr. Magee said at 9:50 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    No, Mike Quick had it exactly right. 3 big drops in first half alone. In fact, the birds really lost the game in the first half – too many opportunities missed.

  47. 47 Joshua Myers said at 5:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yes, and Wentz needs to clean up the fumbles. He looked decent but it didn’t look like the Eagles are ready to win big games yet. The pass rush and attacking the run on the way, besides the one big rd run by hunt today was fun to watch. Eagles can’t run the ball to save their life.

  48. 48 RC5000 said at 6:02 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The one fumble was mostly the OL fault…I think it was Brooks.

  49. 49 Joshua Myers said at 6:15 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Seumalo was terrible. Not concerned with Brooks if he shows up to play

  50. 50 RC5000 said at 6:31 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    What does that have to do with Wentz fumble being caused by an OL probably Brooks being pushed into the football ?

  51. 51 Joshua Myers said at 6:36 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Because seumalo sucked and Brooks played well, Carson shouldn’t keep the ball that far away from his body… Brooks didn’t fumble the ball

  52. 52 Dave said at 6:02 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    In his defense, Ags didn’t drop the ball, it just clanked off his hands. Since the defender was making a play on the ball, the broadcasters didn’t pick it up and assumed the defender got his hands on the ball.

  53. 53 A_T_G said at 6:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The defender had his forearm.

  54. 54 Dave said at 6:36 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I just watched it frame by frame in slow motion (at the 59 minute mark). The ball hit the bottom of his thumb pads and almost hit him in the wrists. The defender hit his forearm after the ball already clunked of his hands. His hand-eye coordination is horrible.

  55. 55 Dave said at 6:03 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Torrey dropped a TD. It was a backshoulder throw, but that’s what he is paid to do.

  56. 56 A_T_G said at 6:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yeah, that was a tough catch that should have been caught.

  57. 57 xmbk said at 6:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Nah, barely touched his fingertips after he jumped backwards.

  58. 58 RC5000 said at 6:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I don’t really agree . It was pretty far over his head.

  59. 59 RC5000 said at 6:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Torrey’s one drop on the deep bomb wasn’t very catchable was it? It’s a popular cliche if it hits a receivers hands they must catch it. But it didn’t bother me much.

  60. 60 A_T_G said at 6:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The back shoulder in the end zone was tough, but the one I thought was most catchable of the “almosts” today.

  61. 61 RC5000 said at 6:14 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m talking about one that sailed over his head and he just got his fingertips on. I didn’t expect him to make that catch.

  62. 62 Dave said at 6:45 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I rewatched that play. I’m not sure if he the ball was too high to catch or if Torrey didn’t time his jump correctly.

  63. 63 Mr. Magee said at 9:52 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Bingo

  64. 64 Dave said at 6:43 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The deep one he was interfered with by the DB who didn’t seem to get his head around. Could have been a PI.

  65. 65 BobSmith77 said at 5:55 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    With Kendricks continuing to play well, this is the best front 7 on DE for the Eagles in a long, long time.

    Maybe since 2001 when they had a front 7 of Douglas, C. Simon, H. Thomas, Whiting up front with a LBs core of Trotter (pre-ACL injury), Emmons, and Caldwell.

    I would take this DL over that group and even the LBs too although it is too because Emmons was such a steady & versatile veteran especially in coverage.

  66. 66 BobSmith77 said at 5:59 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    1995 defense had a really solid front 7 too:

    DL: Fuller, A. Harmon, Dixon, Mamula
    LBs: Romanowski, Gouveia, W. Thomas

    Fuller and W. Thomas made the Pro-Bowl that year; Harmon had double digit sacks, and Romanowski & Gouveia solid years.

  67. 67 Dave said at 6:42 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Ah, Andy Harmon. I waited and bought his Jersey because he looked like he was going to be a stud and have a long career…Very unfortunate.

  68. 68 Dave said at 5:59 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I would also take this defensive line. At one point during the game, I read on Twitter that the line combo of Cox, Long, Graham, and Barnett accounted for 7 sacks this season when playing together. That’s some good backups adding value.

  69. 69 BobSmith77 said at 6:03 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    That 2001 team though had very good backups at DE (Burgess, ND Kalu) too and Grasmanis was a steady backup DT.

  70. 70 ChoTime said at 5:59 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I only got to watch about a quarter, and they sucked, but externally, this is a fairly encouraging game. Especially if it turns out KC is a powerhouse. It really is no shame to lose a competitive game to a Superbowl contender. Of course, moral victories don’t count in the standings, but at least they showed something.

    My main reservation is–are they rushing Wentz here? I sure would prefer to place him in positions where he can succeed and not rely on low percentage, chaotic plays.

  71. 71 xeynon said at 7:14 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I don’t think the plan is to rely on Wentz to bail them out by making great individual plays. They’re trying to give him high percentage throws and keep him out of long yardage situations. The problem is, when they’ve tried to make things easy for him the execution hasn’t been there. It’s not just the running game, either – the screen game has also been really bad so far. When plays that are supposed to be reliable short-to-medium yardage gainers instead go for no gain or even lose you yards, it puts you in a bad situation.

  72. 72 scratcherk said at 6:00 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak looks like hot trash and just got destroyed.

  73. 73 Dave said at 6:02 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak is injured…

  74. 74 pxa said at 6:03 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    KC – 28 pass/19 run
    PHI – 46 pass/18 run
    We had better 3rd down efficiency and more yardage.
    The poor run-pass ratio and the 2 TOs killed us.
    Next week is the key game. We win and we will become early favs to win the division.

  75. 75 ChoTime said at 6:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It’s not the ratio but the efficiency associated with the plays you ran. Smith had a QB rating of 113. His RBs gained 6 YPC.

  76. 76 RC5000 said at 6:19 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The ratio is important too because the defense will just tee off on your QB. How do you know your efficiency if you don’t run it? Chiefs had 1 run for 53 yards and the others were 15 carries for 33 yards. I’m not including Smith’s runs.

  77. 77 anon said at 7:29 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    That ypc stat is misleading, rbs weren’t doing shit until late in the gaame

  78. 78 xmbk said at 6:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I can’t really fault Torrey Smith. But Douglas definitely looked good. I was telling someone last week that Douglas and the injured corners could determine whether the team makes a playoff run. Obviously Wentz’s development is most important, but if 2 of those 3 cb’s are looking good in December it would bode well.

  79. 79 Dave said at 6:39 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Douglas has very good ball awareness.

  80. 80 anon said at 7:28 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Take Torrey put put Mack in

  81. 81 Mr. Magee said at 9:54 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It’s only 2 weeks, but there are more negatives than positives at this point

  82. 82 CTbirdsguy said at 12:28 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    If someone is going to, the majority of the time, be a “take the top off” deep ball guy, what percentage of snaps does he need to take to do so? If Torrey is a sub and comes in to run 9’s, it could be like how college teams have their backups and walk-ons come on to run deep and tire CB’s out…and then we might have a solid opportunity or two per game to get a long TD. But would this concept not work in the NFL?

    Because while Torrey does not look worthless like some may have presumed after last year, he doesn’t look better than Mack when it comes to getting open and moving the sticks. But then, is it way too early to demote a veteran like this for a rookie.

  83. 83 CTbirdsguy said at 12:21 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    Imagine if by the time Darby returns to be CB1, Douglas has proven to be a viable starter….what would be the move then? Douglas CB2 & Mills slot? Douglas as CB3 with peace of mind?

  84. 84 xmbk said at 5:25 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    Way too early to worry about that. Let’s just hope that’s the problem they face.

  85. 85 scratcherk said at 6:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    lucky ass cowboys,

  86. 86 Insomniac said at 6:34 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Is it too early to say that I don’t think we should be scared of the Seahawks?

  87. 87 Dave said at 6:38 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Our defensive line would like to play them weekly.

  88. 88 Insomniac said at 6:40 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I want to say the same for their DL vs our OL but here they are tied with the Niners…

  89. 89 RC5000 said at 6:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Bryant finally got offensive PI!

  90. 90 BobSmith77 said at 6:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    People often complain about the announcers Burkhardt and Davis were particularly. I’d fine with hearing neither again this season.

  91. 91 SteveH said at 6:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I thought they were fine. Listening to Aikman call a Cowboys game is like having a drill boring into my ear canal.

  92. 92 RC5000 said at 6:38 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Greg Olsen broke his foot and we got Panthers in 4 weeks so there’s ahem a break.

  93. 93 BobSmith77 said at 6:43 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Pats had a nobody running the ball (Gillislee who went for 18-69) but it was all Brady (30-39, 447 yards, 3 TDs)

    Maybe the Saints’ defense stinks and he was playing in a dome but damn made some great throws today.

  94. 94 anon said at 7:26 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Had Brady putting up Sam Bradford stats. Must be the defense

  95. 95 BobSmith77 said at 6:46 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Thing that mystifies me the most about the Pats is how Chung was a solid starter there before, stunk here, and goes back to NE as even better & more productive player.

  96. 96 xeynon said at 7:09 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    System/coaching. Kelly and Davis brought Chung here and asked him to do things he’s not good at. Belichick knows his limitations and schemes to minimize his weaknesses and emphasize his strengths. He’s still not great, though.

  97. 97 BobSmith77 said at 6:52 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Carr is the player that has impressed me the most so far in the early going.

    Yeah he is home and it is the Jets but he is just surgically picking about that Jets’ defense. Did the same thing against the Titans too last week.

    If he isn’t recognized as the best QB and possibly player in the NFL by the end of the year, I’d be surprised. Really impressive to watch him.

  98. 98 Gary Barnes said at 7:10 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yea, we had a chance to grab Crabtree as a FA when his value was low; now he, Carr and that offense are humming.

    The Oakland – KC battle for the AFC West is going to be fun to watch

  99. 99 Dave said at 7:12 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I agree Carr is a stud. But hold on with the Ravens praise…they played the Browns who had a rookie QB in their home stadium. To boot, they lost their starting OT for the rest of the year.

  100. 100 BobSmith77 said at 7:38 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    They have lost a ton of OT including 2 starters and 2 backups.

    Defense is going to surprise a lot of people this year as long as they stay healthy. Underrated group that is gong to surprise a lot of teams.

    Obviously not the 2001 defense but it does strike me as a ton that will win a lot of games if they can even score 20 or 21 points which is pretty tough today in the NFL.

  101. 101 SteveH said at 6:59 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Why the hell did Vance Joseph gift the Cowboys a timeout there? Especially after a gain of 7 on first, they were probably going to get another first down, all you did was save clock for them.

    It’s 21-10 but it feels like it could be 28-0 if not for a few dumb mistakes.

  102. 102 Dave said at 7:09 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/LesBowen/status/909552323168419840

  103. 103 izzylangfan said at 7:13 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Wentz had a very bad interception – a deflected pass immediately after a deflected pass on the prior play. He also had a bad interception on a deflected pass last week. He also had two fumbles though none lost. Too many mistakes.

  104. 104 xeynon said at 7:25 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Tough to fault the QB 100% for an interception on a deflection that happens because the pocket is getting pushed back in his face.

  105. 105 Gary Barnes said at 7:15 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Good to see that “vaunted” Dallas defense getting shredded by the Broncos, lol

  106. 106 xeynon said at 7:22 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dallas’ defense is paper mache. Marinelli is a good coach and gets the most out of them, but they are pretty deficient in talent.

  107. 107 Gary Barnes said at 7:15 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Redskins in a dogfight with Rams, 20-20 with roughly 5 mins left

  108. 108 Guy Media said at 7:18 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Seumalo should be at Center. Kelce was almost as Brutal as Sem today. That combo isn’t working. Bad drops from Smith. Vinny Curry, the kind of the almost, needs to be deactivated in favor of Means for week 4 if Curry doesn’t register some sacks vs. the Giants.

    Oh, and Watkins got toasted at least twice before he got hurt.

    All grousing aside, I’m feeling good about a win next week.

  109. 109 Gary Barnes said at 7:23 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think Kelce has been fine these first two weeks. C is more important than OG especially with a young developing QB. Seumalo has to earn a bigger role not have it handed to him. Play much better at OG, make the case well and the move to C will eventually happen. If he continues to struggle, he may be replaced at OG and have an even harder road to stick here.

    I’d give Curry more time, he is close and played very hard today.

    Smith, Watkins and a win next week I agree with…

  110. 110 Guy Media said at 7:44 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    But Curry is always “playing hard” without anything tangible to show for it.

    And I’d challenge you on Kelce being fine. I’m not seeing him blocking the run too well and he’s been beaten badly on a few screen pass “blocks” as well as not seeing blitzers on several occasions who ran right through the space he vacated to double team the guard’s man.

  111. 111 TXEaglesFan said at 7:49 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    There was one play in the second half, pass play, Kelce pulled and ran to the right side like it was a draw, and the blitzer came through the hole he vacated. Sproles barely got a piece of LB but it broke up the play. Not sure who messed that up, but my vote is kelce.

  112. 112 Guy Media said at 7:49 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Sproles, on two occasions, was too passive in going forward to meet the blitzer.

  113. 113 Mr. Magee said at 9:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Kelce is flat out dreadful. How the coaching staff did not decide to make a change prior to the start of this season, I’ll never be able to tell you.

  114. 114 Ray888 said at 10:01 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Game changer in my view when Curry has QB all wrapped up for huge momentum changing sack, only he doesn’t. Gives KC a route to victory. Soooo close.

  115. 115 xeynon said at 7:24 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    My guess is the long-term plan (as in, 2018 and beyond) is to move on from Kelce and slide Seumalo over to C, which is his natural position, then plug in a new player at LG. Doesn’t help this season though. If Seumalo doesn’t improve markedly it’ll be Wis time.

  116. 116 BobSmith77 said at 7:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Seumalo doesn’t get benched in even in 3 weeks if he continues to perform this poorly.

  117. 117 scratcherk said at 7:51 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Why do we think Seumalo would be much better at C?

  118. 118 Guy Media said at 7:52 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Because it is his natural position. Seth Joyner did a great job breaking it down post game on Comcast. I’d encourage you to check it out.

  119. 119 CTbirdsguy said at 12:11 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    Weighing your take on the *combination* not working versus the natural aversion to greater overhaul, which does everyone think would get the OLine to perform better: replace Seumalo at RG with Wiz, or slide Seumalo to C and plug Wiz in at RG?

  120. 120 Guy Media said at 7:20 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Oh; and the guy who should be our kicker except for some bungling by Chip (Parkey) went 4/4 for Miami today.

  121. 121 anon said at 7:24 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Parkey has been cut by a couple of teams.

  122. 122 Guy Media said at 7:38 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Mistakenly. He was Godly here when he made the pro bowl.

  123. 123 Matt said at 7:29 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I always thought this was going to be a tough game. With 10 days off from a drubbing of the Patriots at home, the Chiefs had the advantage. This is a learning game.

    Also, its nice to see the Cowboys get drubbed by the Broncos.

  124. 124 Dave said at 7:36 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m not sweating today. A veteran team, a veteran coach, and a veteran QB, with a solid recent history of success while playing at home.

  125. 125 BobSmith77 said at 8:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yeah it was basically a bye week for Reid and he is 16-2 coming a bye and 3-1 in the playoffs.

    FiveThirtyEight ELO Ratings have the Chiefs rated as the best team in the NFL after Week 1 for what it is worth too.

  126. 126 xeynon said at 7:33 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak Prescott is averaging 4.3 YPA today.

    Just some context for those fretting about Wentz’s second half swoon. Young QBs will hit rough patches.

  127. 127 Dave said at 7:34 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He’ll be averaging 3.4 without Elliot. 35-10 Denver

  128. 128 SteveH said at 7:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak is junk. No run game means he’s captain checkdown. LB’s aren’t cheating up every play anymore.

  129. 129 A_T_G said at 7:36 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I really, really enjoyed Dak getting intercepted on a ball that bounces off uncovered Dez’ hands and instead of perusing, Dak watches with his hands on his hips.

    That is as good as it gets.

  130. 130 SteveH said at 7:37 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    That was Zeke not Dak with his hands on his hips. Even better IMO.

  131. 131 A_T_G said at 7:37 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Oops, yep. Typo due to giddiness.

  132. 132 xeynon said at 7:41 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yup, Dallas getting their asses handed to them is salvaging something from this Sunday.

  133. 133 SteveH said at 7:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Love to see Zeke pouting. I want the Broncos DL to troll him and do his stupid soup eating celebration.

  134. 134 Guy Media said at 7:41 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Somebody in prison should murder him with a sharpened version of that spoon.

  135. 135 SteveH said at 7:39 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    C’mon Aqib…. gotta catch that, get daks pick numbers up.

  136. 136 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:40 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Anyone know a good site where I can watch the replay of today’s game? Missed almost whole game. Finally back to football. F the cowboys. I sort of get Tommys frustration above, but losing by 1 TD to the Chiefs in Arrowhrad is better than I expected. OR was it not that close?

  137. 137 SteveH said at 7:40 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It was tied with 6 minutes left in the 4th, then we made a few critical errors in a row and that was that.

  138. 138 Guy Media said at 7:40 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    No, but you really want to reconsider watching.

  139. 139 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:42 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Uh oh. Why?

  140. 140 Guy Media said at 7:44 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It was a really really really frustrating game to watch.

  141. 141 A_T_G said at 7:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Oh, I disagree. We went blow for blow with a team presumed to be far superior. In the end, it got away from us. Even then, we never gave up.

  142. 142 Guy Media said at 7:49 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Oh; it blew alright.

  143. 143 A_T_G said at 7:50 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think it will be here tomorrow:
    https://www.nflfullhd.com

  144. 144 Mr. Magee said at 10:01 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Wow, didn’t know that existed… Looks like it’s free?

  145. 145 A_T_G said at 1:04 PM on September 18th, 2017:

    I found it from someone on here last week. I watched the part of game 1 that I missed for free on Monday.

  146. 146 Tdoteaglefan said at 7:57 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I feel pretty confident that NFL network will replay it as one of the “games of the week”

  147. 147 SteveH said at 7:42 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Prescott reminds me so much of Sam Bradford, only more mobile.

  148. 148 scratcherk said at 7:49 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    also much worse pure passer

  149. 149 A_T_G said at 7:53 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    And younger, less experienced, lacking the pedigree, injury free, and never languish on an untalented team.

    Other than that, though…

  150. 150 Ankerstjernen said at 8:34 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Bradford throws one of the most perfect balls you have ever seen. His footwork, throwing motion, release is completely textbook, and he makes it look easy. He might be one of the most natural passers of the football there ever was.

    Dak is literally none of those things. There is no comparison.

  151. 151 A_T_G said at 7:43 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I want the Eagles to be good enough to do this to the Cowboys.

  152. 152 Guy Media said at 7:45 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    So what’s everybody’s cutoff date for Doug and calling the plays? I’m really ready to see Reich get a chance.

  153. 153 Mr. Magee said at 10:02 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Cutoff date was end of last season… Howie and Jeffrie didn’t get the memo

  154. 154 SteveH said at 7:45 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dink, dunk, dink dunk dink dunk. I always wanted to see what Dak looks like without his run game helping him and I’m loving what I’m seeing.

  155. 155 xeynon said at 7:47 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yup. Even last year, I never looked at Dak and thought “that guy scares me”. I think he’s fine, and could be a solid NFL starter for years, but if he’s the Cowboys’ starting QB for the next 10 years I’ll be happy, because to me he looks like one of those guys who will be too good to get rid of but not good enough to win it all with unless everything else goes perfectly.

  156. 156 SteveH said at 7:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yeah, I hope they sign him to a big money extension. I want that guy as the Cowboys QB for a long time.

  157. 157 SteveH said at 7:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Meanwhile, what the fuck was that Denver?

  158. 158 Ankerstjernen said at 7:51 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Not to change the subject, but I am watching the Dallas game right now, and its extremely satisfying. Finally we see the Dak that I always believed they had in him. When the team falls behind and he is asked to carry the offense and make above average throws with anticipation into tight windows, he completely falls apart. The difference between him and Wentz tonight is lightyears, just in terms of ability and obvious talent. And leadership, if you will. He does not look like a player leading the way for his team, like Wentz does. Like I said, extremely satisfying. Particularly the shots of Jerrah in the booth looking like someone botched his latest facelift. I firmly believe we are going to be quite happy with Dak in Dallas for the next ten years.

  159. 159 SteveH said at 7:52 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    We should start a philadelphia Eagles social media campaign pushing for Dak to sign a big extension in Dallas. Troll the shit out of him and the organization.

  160. 160 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:55 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Still think they shoulda drafted Manziel when they had the chance.

  161. 161 Ankerstjernen said at 8:41 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    What a wonderful idea. I’m in.

  162. 162 Guy Media said at 7:54 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m down with the subject change and I agree with you.

    But I’m still handing out some well deserved recriminations from today’s loss.

  163. 163 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:02 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    What percentage of those go to the OL?

  164. 164 Guy Media said at 8:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    1.75. Seumalo for 1, Kelce for .75.

  165. 165 SteveH said at 7:55 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    How the fuck is Witten beating you deep, the fuck Denver.

  166. 166 Guy Media said at 7:56 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Ha; he’s the one Cowboy for whom I have respect out of their skill guys.

  167. 167 SteveH said at 7:56 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yeah but he’s old and slow, HOW are you letting him beat you deep??

  168. 168 Guy Media said at 7:57 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Old man tricks. And how is LJ Smith doing today?

  169. 169 SteveH said at 7:57 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Hopefully reliving his super bowl fumble over and over in some dive bar.

  170. 170 Guy Media said at 7:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dropping his beer while in there.

  171. 171 SteveH said at 7:56 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    You know what, I’m happy Dallas is getting dumpstered, but the Broncos have fucked up a whole lot today and honestly it shouldn’t even be this close. Between the fumble, the interceptions, a missed field goal, Vance Joseph inexplicably gifting Dallas that TO at the end of the half, this shit should be like 45-3 right now.

  172. 172 scratcherk said at 7:56 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak vs Wentz. No comparison. Dak can make throws he should make. Wentz makes wow throws. Dak is not carrying any team on his back. Wentz can.

  173. 173 A_T_G said at 8:02 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak can manage a dominant team and punish teams for overplaying the run. Wentz can carry a team without a running game and manufacture offense from nothing.

  174. 174 xeynon said at 8:17 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think you can win a Super Bowl with Dak, but only if you have a dominant defense and running game. With a QB like Wentz there is more margin for error because he can do more to make up for deficiencies elsewhere on the roster.

  175. 175 Guy Media said at 8:19 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think you’re a bad human being for saying “Super Bowl” and “Dak” in the same sentence without including “can’t win.”

  176. 176 SteveH said at 7:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Nice to see Talib upset over the TD. He gets it.

  177. 177 Guy Media said at 7:59 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    His work in the Super Bowl two years ago was amazing.

  178. 178 SteveH said at 8:00 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Broncos no killer instinct here. Ruining my fun. Booooo.

  179. 179 SteveH said at 8:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Oh man Talib drops another pick. Wentz has every tipped pass picked off, Dak can’t even get picked off throwing it right to the opposing CBs.

  180. 180 Guy Media said at 8:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak had 12.4 million INTs dropped over the last 19 games.

  181. 181 A_T_G said at 8:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    That’s not right. Dak hasn’t played 19 games.

  182. 182 Guy Media said at 8:07 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    16+1 playoff + 2 this year.

  183. 183 A_T_G said at 8:09 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I forgot their one and done, understandably.

  184. 184 Guy Media said at 8:10 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Aaron Rodgers hasn’t!

  185. 185 SteveH said at 8:07 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I haven’t checked the stats yet but I don’t think he has 12.4 million pass attempts either.

  186. 186 Guy Media said at 8:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    A lot of those handoffs should have been picked as well.

  187. 187 A Roy said at 8:19 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    playoff vs GB. 🙂

  188. 188 SteveH said at 8:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It kills me how unjust this sport is sometimes. He’s throw it RIGHT TO Talib twice and he dropped both of them.

  189. 189 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:11 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Did Jerruh go bankrupt? I thought cowboy penalty misses were all pre-paid.

  190. 190 Guy Media said at 8:12 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He’s busy C-blocking Goodell’s extension.

  191. 191 RC5000 said at 8:22 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Poor Witten fantasy owners. missed TD catch now, where’d that come from?…

  192. 192 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:24 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Love Garrett the Cowboys coach. Stupid call. The play there was to take the 3 and onside kick. Thank you Jason.

  193. 193 BobSmith77 said at 8:35 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    As much grief as Pederson gets here in Philly, Garrett gets that and then some in Dallas.

  194. 194 Guy Media said at 8:27 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    If Dak is still in the game at this point, Denver needs to injure him as punishment for Dallas not taking their beating quietly.

  195. 195 SteveH said at 8:28 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Dak has been racking up garbage time yards for a whole half. Can’t believe he’s going to escape this game with his stats intact.

  196. 196 Guy Media said at 8:28 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He needs to be cheap shotted as punishment.

  197. 197 xeynon said at 8:29 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    If Dak displaces Matthew Stafford as the greatest garbage time QB of all time, I’ll take that.

  198. 198 Guy Media said at 8:30 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’d rather he become the next Mark Sanchez.

  199. 199 CrackSammich said at 8:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Nah. Sanchez didn’t cost the Jets enough money. Stafford is still bleeding them.

  200. 200 SteveH said at 8:30 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’d rather Talib held onto those 2 picks. Lazy thinkers will always use stats as evidence, and I’d rather they didn’t have that option to defend him.

  201. 201 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:31 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Let him. Let the illusion be reality.

  202. 202 SteveH said at 8:36 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Haha Talib finally hangs onto it. Fuck you Dak you trashy POS.

  203. 203 BobSmith77 said at 8:38 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/who-hates-the-patriots-the-most/

    Cowboys are easily the most-hated team in the US. I did like the nugget in the article that more than 50% of fans in Washington and Philadelphia had them in their Top 3 Least Favorite team.

    Interesting the Eagles weren’t in the Top 10 most hated/most liked teams. Probably due to part to them not having a very well known player/coach on the team and not having won much especially in the playoffs.

  204. 204 ChoTime said at 9:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Philly fans highly overestimate any kind of antipathy towards them, it seems. I think people really just don’t care.

  205. 205 xeynon said at 9:17 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Having lived in two other NFC East markets (New York and Washington), I can say that they’re definitely hated in those places. I think Bob is right though, they haven’t won enough or had enough highly controversial/divisive players to have a national hatedom.

  206. 206 BobSmith77 said at 9:34 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Yeah the Eagles just don’t have a player single who is a scumbag and non-divisional rivals are going to hate on the Eagles because of Pederson or Lurie? No way.

  207. 207 xeynon said at 8:50 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    We went on the road and lost a hard-fought game to one of the two or three best teams in the AFC.

    Dallas went on the road and got their butts kicked by a team that will likely contend for a wild card at best.

    I feel better about this Sunday’s results already.

  208. 208 Will Ft. The Roots said at 8:54 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think the Broncos are better than you give them credit

  209. 209 xeynon said at 8:58 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think they’re good, but 10-6 or 11-5 good, not 13-3 good. They’re not in the league of the Chiefs, Patriots, or Steelers IMO.

  210. 210 Will Ft. The Roots said at 9:07 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think they are but its early in the season. Id throw the Raiders in there too

  211. 211 xeynon said at 9:15 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Their defense is excellent but Siemien is not even a top 20 QB, and the rest of their offensive talent is “meh”.

    I think they’re only the 3rd best team in that division and probably 5th or 6th in the conference. But as you say, it is early.

  212. 212 Dave said at 10:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Siemien was throwing passes against Nolan Carroll today, he should have thrown 10 TDs instead of 4.

  213. 213 Insomniac said at 9:55 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The Broncos look kinda legit. They still have the best secondary in the league by far.

  214. 214 xeynon said at 10:13 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m not impressed by their offense. Great defense can take you only so far.

  215. 215 Tumtum said at 10:32 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    There is no clear stand out in the East right now, that much is for sure at this point.

  216. 216 TO BLACKS said at 8:52 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Eagles have a shitty line and a fat ugly SHITTY pavement ape RB in Blount.

  217. 217 TO BLACKS said at 8:54 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Blount looks like a FAT APE

  218. 218 bobeph said at 9:01 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    your mom was from africa

  219. 219 wee2424 said at 9:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Just go. Shit ain’t right. BTW if you do like Trump you are actually one of his worst nightmares.

  220. 220 bobeph said at 9:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    trump is great, you’re an hillary lovin queeah

  221. 221 TO BLACKS said at 9:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    If your shit ain’t right, then take a Pepto for it.

  222. 222 bobeph said at 9:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    your mom is your dad

  223. 223 xeynon said at 9:13 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    This thread appears as nothing but a series of “This user is blocked.” messages to me and let me tell you it is wonderful.

    Life is too short to bother doing many things, and engaging with internet trolls is one of them.

  224. 224 Tumtum said at 10:30 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    It’s funny how the blocked guys on my feed are always in the same conversation… hmmm why could that possibly be? I’ll give you a hint. Same guy.

  225. 225 wee2424 said at 1:24 PM on September 18th, 2017:

    I agree, but the highly racist comment that was made bothered me too much to let it go. My fault for feeding in, but it was highly wrong.

  226. 226 Donald Kalinowski said at 9:09 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I think Rodgers is the most talented QB of all time.

  227. 227 Guy Media said at 9:11 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He’s certainly in the mix.

  228. 228 xeynon said at 9:12 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He belongs in the conversation, but as far as sheer physical talent I think there’s a strong case for taking Vick, Cunningham, or Steve Young over him.

  229. 229 Donald Kalinowski said at 9:31 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I can’t think of any QB that can throw accurate passes on the run as he can. It’s like he puts up the Mike Vick unstoppable games on a consistent basis.

  230. 230 Dave said at 10:04 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Steve Young was a horrible QB in Tampa Bay. Once he replaced Montana in San Fran with a stacked team, GOAT WR, and no salary cap, he was great. No team was ever built around him, he was merely a piece of the puzzle.

  231. 231 xeynon said at 10:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He was a tremendously accurate passer with a strong arm and athletic enough that he could’ve played RB in the NFL. He didn’t excel in Tampa Bay but that was a horrible team. I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

  232. 232 Dave said at 10:22 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Imagine if Dak had a top 3 defense to go along with that OL, WRs, and Zeke, last year and this year…that’s the situation that Young stepped into during the 1992 season, his first starting for the Niners (at 31 years old). The salary cap was not initiated until 1994. He won his first MVP playing on an all-star team.

  233. 233 xeynon said at 10:32 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I don’t have to imagine it. I’m old enough to have seen those 49ers teams firsthand. And while they were talented, they were nowhere near as talented as you are implying. Jerry Rice is better than anybody in this current Cowboys receiving corps (obviously), but I would take this Cowboys OL over that 49ers’ line, Jason Witten (a top 5 all-time TE) over Brent Jones (who was good but not close to that level), and Zeke over Ricky Watters.

    Steve Young was a great, great player. He didn’t have a long peak but he played the position as well as it’s possible to play it during it. And like I said, he was tremendously physically talented, and that’s all we’re really talking about here – the most physically gifted QBs.

  234. 234 Dave said at 7:27 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    You’re giving the 2017 Cowboys way too much credit and short-changing how much easier it is for an offense when they also have a top defense.

  235. 235 Guy Media said at 9:19 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    So the best team in the NFC is……………………….

  236. 236 xeynon said at 10:10 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    …tbd. There is no clearly elite NFC team at this point. Every contender has obvious and serious flaws (Dallas defense, Seattle O-line, Green Bay running game and defense, etc.). I guess you could make a case for the Falcons but I continue to believe they’re going to suffer from a Super Bowl hangover this season.

  237. 237 TO BLACKS said at 9:21 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    THE ONLY PLACE THAT FAT APE BLOUNT SHOULD BE IS A ZOO EATING A BANANA.

  238. 238 Flyin said at 11:36 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I’m in the process of reporting you to dhs.gov and fbi.tips.gov regarding hate and racism . If you post again, I will make certain you are investigated. Your online tracking is established and recorded.

  239. 239 TO BLACKS said at 8:51 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    FUCK YOU AGAIN

  240. 240 Flyin said at 11:53 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    FYI, your IP address can be traced to your exact physical address. You against the FBI. Odds anyone?

  241. 241 TO BLACKS said at 8:51 AM on September 18th, 2017:

    FUCK YOU.

  242. 242 SteveH said at 9:25 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The Niners can’t seriously be considering sticking with Brian Hoyer this year can they? Just bring back Kaep already.

    Looking forward, the Cards and the Panthers are not scary opponents this year. I think we should be favored in every game except maybe the Broncos game up until the bye.

  243. 243 Guy Media said at 9:26 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Broncos game is here, we’ll be favored. I don’t like us at Carolina. Arizona isn’t good at all.

  244. 244 Dave said at 10:01 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Kaep burned that bridge when he opted out of his contract with the Niners. He left by choice and I can’t see a situation where the owner would accept him back.

  245. 245 SteveH said at 10:27 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The situation is called Brian Hoyer. That calls for desperate measures.

  246. 246 BobSmith77 said at 9:41 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Eagles still won TOP of possession today (30:49-29:11) although not by the margin they did last week or typically did last season.

    Last week it was 34:16-25:44 and it seemed to show up in the 4th qtr this week.

    Eagles were also just 2-5 in the red zone today; Chiefs were 2-3 including those 2 TDs in the 4th qtr.

  247. 247 Greg Tulino said at 9:43 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Did anyone hear any report or update on Mcleod and Watkins injuries? Do they appear severe?

  248. 248 Mr. Magee said at 10:05 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Sounds like hamstring injuries, which could last also season…

  249. 249 nopain23 said at 9:45 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    hunt is killing it but what is up with mcaffrey. he was supposed to be secret weapon 007, unstoppable force….no???

  250. 250 Guy Media said at 9:48 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    He can’t catch passes that are consistently thrown in a poor manner.

  251. 251 anon said at 11:22 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Cam did practice at all so no chemistry, plus Cam likes running + McCaffrey doesn’t like NFL physicality. I have him in two leagues – dissapointed

  252. 252 BobSmith77 said at 10:06 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Even Marcus Hayes is optimistic about this performance given all things considered and said this might be the best Eagles’ DL since the Gang Green days.

    Almost always is a ‘Debbie Downer.’

  253. 253 CrackSammich said at 10:08 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Surely this halftime lead is insurmountable. I see no way the Falcons could blow it!

  254. 254 SteveH said at 10:26 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    How about now lol.

  255. 255 Sean Stott said at 10:14 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    Honestly not a bad game at all today. It sucks they lost, but a few lucky things didn’t go that way and that snowballed during the 4th quarter.

  256. 256 SteveH said at 10:26 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I see the Green Bay Packers are already in midseason form with injuries, both starting tackles and jordy nelson out.

  257. 257 SteveH said at 10:30 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    I love that only the packers draft so shittily that their lead running back is their 6th wide receiver, and it’s by choice not by injury.

  258. 258 truehaynes said at 10:40 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    damn the raiders look good

  259. 259 BobSmith77 said at 10:41 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    One thing I would like to see more of:

    – More blitzing from Kendricks and using him at nickel in times even if he is a pass rushing decoy. He has been that impressive since the start of training camp.

  260. 260 SteveH said at 11:25 PM on September 17th, 2017:

    The Packers are hilariously snakebitten with injuries. Both tackles, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and Mike Daniels now out.